Victims of Violence

(384 Posts)
Treats Tue 19-Oct-10 12:57:05

So - this is the first thread I've started within the Feminism section, but I'm a long-time lurker and occasional poster.

I've been motivated to start a thread by this story from last week, and then also by this both in the last few days. (There was another one too but i can't find the link at the moment).

Every few weeks, it seems to me from reading the newspapers, a woman is killed by her husband or lover. Sometimes her children are harmed too.

My DH would like to argue that every single murder is an isolated incident, and caused entirely by factors only relevant to that one man. I argue that these cases are manifestations of misogyny, and that these are not isolated examples, but are all linked. He finds this an uncomfortable point of view, because of what it suggests about him, about us, about our friends.

I think that misogyny is similar to an epidemic - say, swine flu. It's infectious. It affects a significant proportion of the population, but not all. Of those affected, only a minority are severely affected. But it can be fatal - not for the sufferer, but for those close to them.

I don't know how many others here agree with me, but I do see a number of posts from some people who most definitely wouldn't. So the thread I want to start is to collect examples of victims of misogynist violence - women who were killed because they subverted their husbands and boyfriends desire to control them. I want people who visit this board with doubts about why feminism is necessary and justified to read my thread with its examples of victims and to start joining the dots for themselves.

Those posters who think that misandry is equivalent to misogyny are free to post their examples too (of women killing men).

If this thread (or something like it) already exists, then please point me to it and I will post there.

TheDoctrineOfSnatch Mon 17-Mar-14 21:27:19

She looks like a lovely friendly person.

RIP Chamlong Allen flowers

GotMyGoat Mon 17-Mar-14 21:18:31

Chamlong Allen - we will continue to fight for justice for you and your beautiful daughters.

TheDoctrineOfSnatch Mon 17-Mar-14 21:12:17

If it would help to post her name here, please do flowers

GotMyGoat Mon 17-Mar-14 21:09:41

She is still fighting - unfortunately their children were all traumatised by years of abuse, and so didn't tell police the whole truth in their statements which means police haven't been keen to be as helpful as they might be - over such a long time you forgot that their really is institutional misogyny and racism but it is still there.

TheDoctrineOfSnatch Mon 17-Mar-14 21:07:25

So sorry, GotMy.

GotMyGoat Mon 17-Mar-14 21:03:50

My housemates mother was killed by her husband 10 years ago, justice has still not been done due to lack of evidence. Long history of domestic violence and abuse...

TheDoctrineOfSnatch Mon 17-Mar-14 20:54:05

Jayden Parkinson, aged 17, killed by her ex boyfriend

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-26609932

GarthsUncle Sat 08-Mar-14 00:20:00

I know she's named upthread but with the trial ongoing, Reeva Steenkamp

link

Good article in the Guardian today Karen, shame about some of the commenters...

KarenIngalaSmith Sun 15-Sep-13 23:06:18

I've started a petition demanding that the government properly record and take action to end fatal male violence against women.
Please join me and sign: http://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/theresa-may-home-secretary-to-record-of-fatal-male-violence-against-women?utm_source=guides&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=petition_created

CaptChaos Sat 14-Sep-13 17:16:53

Until we realise that domestic violence, and indeed most violence is gendered, and that men are the perpetrators, we will never move forward.

The overwhelming majority of violent crimes are perpetrated by men, whether they be VAWG or violence toward other men.

Some women are violent, true. However,when they are, they get harsher sentences on average than a man committing a similar crime. Stats are often distorted. Not in favour of women though. Odd that.

KarenIngalaSmith Mon 12-Aug-13 22:21:46

Women are not "just as capable". Hence the great majority of victims of domestic violence murders are women and the great majority of killers are men.

dadsmatter Sat 03-Aug-13 00:53:27

Yes women are just as capable. But by nature are protected stats distorted to suit . unless we treat domestic violence in a non gendered way we will never break the cycle

Wuldric Sat 03-Aug-13 00:39:12

Women are capable of domestic violence and murder, to be sure. But the overwhelming majority of dv cases and domestic murders are by men, are they not?

dadsmatter Sat 03-Aug-13 00:18:58

I wonder do any of these bloggers think that women are capable of perpetrating abuse? The torture to the 4 yr old if not entirely dished out by mum was always supported by mum. We must remember women are just as capable of abuse neglect and malicious allegations.

EmmelineGoulden Fri 02-Aug-13 04:11:16
Bunnylion Fri 26-Jul-13 19:56:31
EmmelineGoulden Fri 26-Jul-13 09:26:30
AnyaKnowIt Sat 06-Jul-13 09:50:22

Rebecca Thompson age 11, her father has been charged with her murder

EmmelineGoulden Sun 30-Jun-13 16:59:08
Bunnylion Wed 26-Jun-13 08:12:47

Yvonne and Harrison Walsh

Little Harrison was 7 months old.

Bunnylion Mon 03-Jun-13 20:17:41

It's so heartbreaking.

I completely agree with the OPs opinion that this is an epidemic. But how bad does it have to get before there is an awakening in social awareness of what's happening to so many women?

YoniBottsBumgina Mon 03-Jun-13 13:11:41

Named as Yvonne and Harrison Walsh. sad The suspect is her boyfriend, who was known to police before this happened.

Awful.

Bunnylion Sun 02-Jun-13 23:02:44
KarenIngalaSmith Sat 01-Jun-13 16:17:42

Up to date (as far as I know) list of UK women killed through suspected male violence from January - May 2012 here: wp.me/p3jI2H-3T

41 so far this year, that's one woman killed every 3.66 days.

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