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Sertraline buddies - support for anybody taking Sertraline

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buttonortwo Thu 13-Feb-14 14:48:29

I eventually went to docs yesterday, been really suffering with depression. Is it possible the medication can result in side effects straight away? I'm feeling sick and no appetite today, however feeling better, clearer... I'm on 50 mg the lowest dose.. Anyone else share their experience please?

LastingLight Thu 13-Feb-14 14:54:28

Yes you can get side effects after the first dose. Hang in there, for most people the side effects disappear after a couple of weeks.

TeaAndHugs Thu 13-Feb-14 18:05:26

I only took one half-pill (25mg) of that because I felt so sick by the time it came to take the next one that I couldn't face putting anything in my body. It took 2 days for the nausea to fully subside. Still have the pills sitting on my kitchen counter judging me, but I can't face feeling that ill again. Side effects can definitely kick in quickly!

Funnyfishface Thu 13-Feb-14 23:25:32

Hi there. Sertraline saved my life.
I tried citalopram first and didn't really get on with it. I switched to 50mg sertraline in September and feel fantastic.
First week on meds is tough then no problem.
Pm me if you need any info.
I take mine around 6 in the evening.

buttonortwo Sun 16-Feb-14 14:31:18

Thanks for your replies. Sickness has gone, only anxiety seems to be increasing, is this common too? Palpitations, thinking the worst...

dontrunwithscissors Sun 16-Feb-14 17:48:17

Yes, sertraline increased my anxiety for 4-5 days and then it subsided.

buttonortwo Tue 18-Feb-14 18:06:09

Thanks, agitation still there but what I am mostly noticing is extreme tiredness... Do they have a sedative effect too? I'm holding onto the fact that in a few weeks I'll feel better...

teawomen Wed 19-Feb-14 08:24:06

Hold on in there. They are a great medication. Hope you feel better soon.

omletta Wed 19-Feb-14 11:42:29

I second that - I'm four weeks in and feel like myself again after years of being very unhappy and angry.

I read that they have the opposite to a sedating effect and so changed to take them in the morning rather than at night. However, initially I did feel very tired, a bit sick and had no appetite. It passes in a few days and I instantly felt calmer although I did feel a bit anxious at points - more so than previous.

All those side effects have passed now and getting this prescription is one of the best things I've ever done! Good luck - stick with it.

CrispyHedgeHog Wed 19-Feb-14 11:44:43

Day 3 for me and so far I've been ok.. felt very anxious and jittery yesterday but ok today.. hang in there.. we'll do it together smile

buttonortwo Thu 20-Feb-14 10:52:55

Thanks for support, feeling ok.. Crispy, yes we'll do it together. How are you feeling today? Omletta that's fantastic, I hope I can be saying the same soon..

Quitelikely Thu 20-Feb-14 11:39:13

Hey

To all you guys who are suffering my advice would be to take your meds before bed or at least an hour or two before, this way the side effects occur during sleep.

That is what I found anyway

buttonortwo Wed 26-Feb-14 12:25:15

Thought I would update.. They are working! I am already starting to feel better, coming out of despair! I cannot believe it, I'm able to relax today, which is a godsend...

Aniline Wed 26-Feb-14 14:00:02

I am on day 3. I had some problems to sleep but otherwise no side effects. I take the tablet in the mornings and feel little bit more energetic.

buttonortwo Wed 26-Feb-14 14:08:08

Aniline, I'm still having sleep problems but the nausea has gone, hang in there. I'm hoping it will continue to improve as time goes on..

Aniline Thu 27-Feb-14 11:06:26

When did you , buttonortwo, notice improvement in your mood? I have only noticed more energy so far. Early days still for me.

LastingLight Thu 27-Feb-14 11:35:23

That's fantastic buttonortwo, glad for you.

buttonortwo Thu 27-Feb-14 16:05:09

Aniline, it's just this week I'm noticing improvement, started 11th feb although I'm extremely tired..I'll keep posting with updates

buttonortwo Fri 28-Feb-14 11:51:41

Oh, I hope I haven't spoken too soon, this morning being crying, very low, low confidence.. I can only hope mess kick in more... Is this normal? Nothing has happened to cause this, apart from my thoughts and reflection on things!

buttonortwo Fri 28-Feb-14 11:52:05

Meds not mess!

LastingLight Fri 28-Feb-14 12:35:26

There will be ups and downs, and it can take several weeks before you feel the full positive effects of the meds.

Aniline Fri 28-Feb-14 14:18:18

Thinking the same as Lastinglight.

I have a mixed bag. My energy levels have raised but I feel worse otherwise. Sometimes I feel okish but then horrible bad feeling strikes. Worse than before sertraline. Hopefully this disappears.

Degustibusnonestdisputandem Fri 28-Feb-14 14:22:28

It took many, many months for it to start working properly for me but oh boy has it made a huge difference - so hang in there! Agreed though with the ups and downs - I found it quite hellish in the first week especially.

buttonortwo Fri 28-Feb-14 15:00:16

Thanks for replies.. I'm finding I'm sensitive to noise, things not feeling real. Spent afternoon with mum who talked about herself constantly, I just switch off, she doesn't know and I won't tell her. I feel exhausted by her.. I don't think it is normal to feel so exhausted, she just talked about trivial things and I was thinking to myself " I don't care". Have always felt invisible... Wish she didn't have a negative effect, I tend to limit contact.. I'm hanging onto the fact the will work, thanks degust. Hate the ups and downs. Absolutely hate it.

Degustibusnonestdisputandem Fri 28-Feb-14 15:04:21

Yeah the ups & downs are not much fun at all - unfortunately with sertraline you often feel worse before you feel better! x

LastingLight Fri 28-Feb-14 16:56:19

What I hated worse about the ups and downs - from being ill and as meds side effects - was the unpredictability. You don't want to plan anything because you don't know how you're going to be feeling at the time. But it gets better, hang in there and just look after yourself.

deepbluewave Fri 28-Feb-14 18:25:34

May I join in?
I've just got back from the Drs & have been prescribed 50mg of Sertraline.
I'm planning on taking them,just as I drop off to sleep- last last thing.
I have had Citralopram in the past & as another poster said, I used to try sleep through the side effects.
Fingers crossed!

buttonortwo Mon 03-Mar-14 14:14:42

It's great have this thread to 'check in'.. Ok the down seems to be lifting again.. So hard but the meds are working and I am so pleased I got them. Gp again tomorrow..
Deepbluewave, how are you? Of course, join in..

Aniline Mon 03-Mar-14 14:16:41

Good to hear you are getting bit better buttonortwo smile. I haven't noticed any mood lifting effect yet. Maybe it comes slowly.

buttonortwo Mon 03-Mar-14 14:37:19

Aniline, stick with them, you are a little behind me (day 3 on 28th) so 8 days? I think in another week you will see a difference. Are you having side effects? My extreme tiredness seems to be lifting now... Which was main side effect for me

buttonortwo Mon 03-Mar-14 14:38:04

6 days sorry, it's early days

Aniline Mon 03-Mar-14 14:44:50

I have noticed increased energy in the mornings. In the evenings I fell asleep early and sleep well. Somehow I feel that my head is very alert and could do many things but body is tired. Then feeling bad and suicidal again.

Yes, it is early days for me. I should be more patient. I haven't noticed any nasty side effects, at least.

Aniline Tue 04-Mar-14 10:50:34

nasty side effects until now... I have racing thoughts. "wibble wobble jelly on a plate" all the time. I took some diazepam to calm me down. Hopefully it works. Getting crazy with jellies.

buttonortwo Tue 04-Mar-14 13:28:01

You mean you are just getting side effects now aniline? Do you try to distract yourself? I felt agitated for a few days too, it will pass. I went to gp today got another prescription and she talked about cbt but said you need to be in the right place to talk about some painful experiences.. I really should go for cbt but I'm putting it off

Aniline Tue 04-Mar-14 14:54:49

My mind has been racing a little bit last days, but today it has been really annoying. I took some diazepam and my mind calmed down. It started to race again so more diazepam. Hopefully it is better tomorrow.

I have asked about therapy but apparently the waiting lists are so huge that no chance. Would you have to wait long for cbt?

buttonortwo Wed 05-Mar-14 10:53:39

Not sure how long I'd have to wait but I will do it, just not quite in the right place.. Depression has nearly destroyed me on a number of occasions in my life, uni, post natal depression, post divorce depression, recently post breakup depression.. I get to a stage I feel I barely function, just manage to keep things going. I'm single parent, have friends but not a lot of family support... The feeling of my life no being real is just awful, feel like I'm hungover.. Think this is anxiety.. I want to overcome it but may be something I just have to continue to manage?

Aniline Wed 05-Mar-14 17:07:25

Hopefully sertraline helps you and you feel ready for the therapy.

I have to stop sertraline for a week, because of the racing thoughts. They were even worse today. It took a good portion of diazepam to calm me down today.

CrispyHedgeHog Sun 09-Mar-14 21:39:44

Three weeks on and one week on double dose (100mg) can't say I've noticed any difference or improvement yet but had some intrusive thoughts and feeling of dread/fear sporadically

Aniline Mon 10-Mar-14 16:41:29

and I am down. Stopping sertraline lessened racing thoughts but now I am down again. I took half a dose today to see if that won't cause a high.

buttonortwo Mon 10-Mar-14 18:42:37

Sorry to hear there hasn't been improvement crispy and aniline. I'm down today, anxious but overall I am better, I'm trying to get over ex, it's always there. Just there. I hate things not feeling real, like I am just surviving and not living, the constant thinking. No joy, just what seems like misery. Fingers crossed it continues to overall improve.
Crispy - stick with them.
Aniline- I thought the sertraline increased racing thoughts for you? Why not go back to gp and try another ad?

buttonortwo Wed 19-Mar-14 14:10:47

Just thought I'd give an update.. I'm feeling much better so the ads working.. Still low but can function a lot better, not teary and so negative. This bout of depression triggered by relationship split up in December.. I really don't think I can handle any more breakdowns in my life, depression and anxiety really take a hold.. I'm not out of the woods as yet but am better. I'm so pleased got the ads

notmakingsense Wed 19-Mar-14 19:59:23

Hi all sorry to but in I was prescribed setraline yesterday took 1st dose in afternoon and felt heavy and tired so waiting till bed time tonight. It was prescribed for anxiety that was making me feel down this actually seems worse today and I sought company of family while p was at work. In fact id rather be at my parents than at my own home sad I know im very early days but when will I start to feel better?

I'm picking up my prescription tomorrow after not getting on with citalopram and being 'okish' for a few months. Gp said its this or Prozac but I need to chill which the Prozac won't help with.

How has sertraline affected peoples appetites and if I'm allowed to ask... Sex lives?

CrispyHedgeHog Mon 24-Mar-14 22:14:58

I've no idea if this is a side effect or not but I'm shaking like a leaf, cold sweat, breathing heavily and feeling absolutely terrified. My knees are trembly when I try to walk too.

Is that a panic attackk?

quite possibly crispy. How are you feeling today?

I started sertraline today. almost an immediate high, talking fast, typing fast etc, then my mind kept going blank. Bit of nausea but very hungry and thirsty! No panic attacks and not too bad on the depression front.

CrispyHedgeHog Wed 26-Mar-14 12:18:37

Hopefully a one off.. I'm ok otherwise.
Hope it works well for you ballerina smile

buttonortwo Wed 26-Mar-14 13:33:30

Just noticed updated on my thread... I'm not 6 weeks in and much much better... Initial side effects of sickness etc went, appetite normal, I'm on diet tho anyway... Little ballerina, I have no sexual desire but then I have no partner so guess it isn't a problem...
Chh could be side effect or dehydration/ tiredness?

Glad to hear you're doing well button!

I much prefer these already to citalopram.

Ahh possibly!

kazzawazzawoo Mon 31-Mar-14 16:01:06

Can I join in too?

I just started taking Sertraline today, although it was prescribed over a month ago, but I've been too scared of the side effects to take it til now. I've felt so down this weekend and anxious, I couldn't take it anymore so decided to start the meds.

The ones I have are 50 mg, but I broke a tablet in half and only took the half, so 25 mg, hopefully the low dose will mean low side effects. Anyone else done this and if so, when did you increase to 50 mg?

I took it 4.5 hours ago and have felt a little dizzy and have a slight headache, otherwise ok.

I really want these to work. I have been depressed and anxious for so long, it affects my whole life, I can't face work at the moment (lots of contact with customers, face to face or on the phone all day) and I can't afford to lose my job, as dh is out of work.

apermanentheadache Mon 31-Mar-14 16:56:09

Kazzawazza - yes, me. I am currently taking 25mg of sertraline with the intention of going up to 50 mg. I'm doing this to avoid side effects like you. My GP is really good and it was his suggestion to start low and taper up slowly. I'll probably increase after about 10 days on 25 mg. I've been on them (many times!) before.

Well done for finally making the brave decision to take them. I think I saw you on another thread. If they work for you, they will likely make a big difference to your life.

kazzawazzawoo Mon 31-Mar-14 17:03:28

apermanentheadache, thanks for posting smile It's good to know I'm not the only one. Let me know how you get on with the ADs.

kazzawazzawoo Wed 02-Apr-14 19:38:32

I'm on day three of taking Sertraline today, side effects ok so far, slight nausea on the first evening, a bit of trouble sleeping first night, slight headache. I'll see how it goes and will increase to 50mg after seven or ten days.

apermanentheadache Wed 02-Apr-14 20:10:39

Kazza well done you smile Do you feel pleased you've managed to start the meds?

kazzawazzawoo Wed 02-Apr-14 20:44:05

I feel really pleased that it's going so well. Feel relieved I've done something about it at last.

kazzawazzawoo Wed 02-Apr-14 20:44:39

How are you coping? Hopefully no side effects too?

chuffchuff Wed 02-Apr-14 21:09:44

Hi just found this thread - I think I really need it ATM....

Am on day two of sertraline, yesterday I felt a bit sick but was really happy that I'd finally made it to the docs and was doing something positive. Today I'm just feeling a bit crap again and this evening I feel awful, really sick and tired and started feeling really panicky an hour or so ago. I'm really hoping it's not going to get much worse than this sad

kazzawazzawoo Wed 02-Apr-14 21:55:40

Sorry chuffchuff, that's rubbish sad

I'm on day three of sertraline, but started on half the dose. I have put off starting to take them because of the potential side effects, as i suffer with emetaphobia - fear of vomiting.

what dose are you on? could you talk to your gp about taking a lower dose? then increase it very slowly - obviously discuss with your gp, especially if suicidal

I hope things improve. Maybe someone who knows more about anti depressants will have more info.

chuffchuff Wed 02-Apr-14 22:07:18

kazza I'm on 50mg. GP did say I could take half the dose for the first few days because if not I might feel a bit sick (slight understatement!) but I was feeling so positive and pleased with myself yesterday that I thought 'sod it, why mess about, the sooner I Take the full dose the sooner I'll get results'....

kazzawazzawoo Wed 02-Apr-14 22:25:26

Might be worth just taking half the dose from now on until it settles if he's said that would be ok? I'll cross my fingers that things improve.

chuffchuff Wed 02-Apr-14 22:29:15

Think you may be right! Will see how I feel tomorrow - thanks smile

kazzawazzawoo Wed 02-Apr-14 22:29:42

By the way, my tablets are 50mg too, I break them in half.

Are you finding they affect your sleep at all?

chuffchuff Thu 03-Apr-14 09:16:21

Yes! The first night I slept fine but last night was horrible sad. I woke up about 2:30 drenched in sweat and felt really sick and faint. I didn't get back to sleep properly after that because I felt so ill and it made me go all panicky.

By this morning I had decided I wasn't going to take any more of them but DH is adamant I have to keep going with them. So today I am going to take half and stick to that for a few days - hopefully then the side effects won't be so bad.

I feel a right idiot for thinking I could just start the full dose straight away and ignore the doctors advice blush sad

kazzawazzawoo Thu 03-Apr-14 09:39:25

I hope you get on better with the half dose. I'm going to stick to half a tablet for about a week to ten days, depending how i feel before increasing to a whole tablet.

chuffchuff Thu 03-Apr-14 09:44:49

Yes that sounds like a good idea - I will take half a tablet today and hopefully tonight won't be so bad. Have you been pretty much ok on half a tablet so far?

kazzawazzawoo Thu 03-Apr-14 09:49:45

I only felt a little nauseous on day one in the late evening, but I'm not sleeping well. I wake up early and don't go back to sleep. otherwise just a slight headache that feels a bit fuzzy.

I hope you feel better on half a tablet. keep posting smile

chuffchuff Thu 03-Apr-14 09:59:29

I will do - you can be my Sertraline buddy smile

apermanentheadache Thu 03-Apr-14 10:08:47

Hi kazza and chuffchuff (sorry OP for thread hijack).

The anxiety, sleep disturbance etc are really well known effects of starting any SSRI medication. The good news is that these usually start to diminish after about 1-2 weeks. It can be pretty horrible until things start to improve but honestly, they do, and if you can stick with it, do. I know it's hard though. A psych once told me that if you get initial side effects then that's an indication that the medication is probably going to be beneficial for you. I don't know if there's any basis to that or whether she was just trying to jolly me along (!) but it made me feel better.

I am doing fine on the 25mg BUT I am also on another AD called Mirtazapine at the same time which helps with sleep (understatement). I remember in the past when I've been on 'neat' Sertraline that the sleep disturbance does get annoying. However, one of my depression/ anxiety symptoms is early waking (around 4-5 am) and not being able to get back to sleep so there was nothing to be lost for me, really.

I had citalopram once in the past and had to give up on it after about a week because it gave me severe agitation and anxiety. I find sertraline doesn't do this quite as much.

If you're really struggling you can always ask the GP for some very short-term tranquilisers. They are not at all keen to hand these out as they're very addictive but they can be useful while you get stable on the main meds. I've used them before for this reason but haven't needed them this time.

chuffchuff Thu 03-Apr-14 10:19:44

Thanks aper smile. What your psych said is very good to hear - I am choosing to believe that there is basis to that smile

Also sorry OP for the thread hijack blush

chuffchuff Thu 03-Apr-14 10:21:20

And actually I have just found some Rescue Remedy that's been kicking around in the bottom of my bottomless bag for a while. I'm going to use that as a bit of a crutch for a few days if I keep feeling edgy. Do you think that's ok to do?

<panicking about everything today>

kazzawazzawoo Thu 03-Apr-14 10:25:42

Sorry also op for thread hijack smile

Chuffchuff (and Apermanentheadache) I could do with a sertraline buddy too smile

I'm ok with the not sleeping at the moment. It gives me peaceful thinking time wink I don't feel as tired as I think I should at the moment!

The only thing I can't cope with is nausea, vomiting, upset stomach.

kazzawazzawoo Thu 03-Apr-14 10:27:48

I have taken Prozac, Citalopram and mirtazapine in the past, I felt like a zombie for weeks, as if I was wading through mud all the time. This feels different. I really hope it helps.

apermanentheadache Thu 03-Apr-14 11:27:00

My doc said that in his view there is slightly stronger evidence for the use of Sertraline (as opposed to Citalopram or other SSRIs) where anxiety is a significant feature of depression. Whether that's true or not I don't know but again, I'm choosing to believe it smile

chuffchuff Thu 03-Apr-14 11:38:00

My doctor also said that Sertraline is the most effective at treating anxiety. He diagnosed me with GAD and not depression - just lately I have been feeling down and exhausted by it all but I think it's just because the anxiety has been there so long it's dragged me down a bit and he agreed with that.

Am due to take my next tablet at lunchtime and am dreading it after feeling crap last night. Will only take half a tab (25mg) this time though so hopefully it won't be as bad..... (fingers crossed smiley)

apermanentheadache Thu 03-Apr-14 11:43:18

Good luck, Chuffchuff. Good to hear the same thing from other docs. I take mine first thing in the morning to minimise any sleep-related effects. Is that an option for you?

chuffchuff Thu 03-Apr-14 11:46:13

Yes I suppose I could - I'm only taking them at 12 because I took the first as soon as I picked them up from the pharmacy and that was the time then. Maybe a bit earlier would be good.

kazzawazzawoo Thu 03-Apr-14 12:22:58

My gp said the same re. Sertraline being more suited for anxiety. I suffer with depression and anxiety, so hope this may help make things more bearable.

I take mine first thing in the morning too, still struggling to sleep though. Hope it's a side effect that will wear off soon.

chuffchuff Thu 03-Apr-14 12:26:49

Just read the information leaflet in the box when I took mine - and am now wishing I hadn't. They really should tell the pharmacist to take the leaflet out if it's being prescribed for anxiety grin

apermanentheadache Thu 03-Apr-14 13:15:08

Oh never read those things. They are awful!

kazzawazzawoo Thu 03-Apr-14 13:17:17

they are awful! They are just covering all bases, they have to put everything in there just in case. I can't read them anymore, due to my anxiety. I'm sure most people are fine.

kazzawazzawoo Thu 03-Apr-14 19:24:17

chuffchuff, how are you feeling now?

CrispyHedgeHog Fri 04-Apr-14 09:48:51

approx 6 weeks in and I'm noticing a difference. I'm a bit more cheerful, energetic and less antisocial. Side effects seem to be all gone too.

Hang in there.. hopefully you'll get a good result too

chuffchuff Fri 04-Apr-14 10:46:19

Hi kazza smile not too bad today thanks.

Glad I only took half a tab yesterday, the side effects were much less 'urge', just felt a little bit sick - also slept ok last night. Went to do the weekend food shop after the school run today and felt a little bit flakey & claustrophobic - but lots have people have said that you can often feel worse when you start taking the meds before you feel better so trying to put it down to that.

How are you today?

Crispyhedgehog - thanks for your message - it's really good to hear positive stories thanks

apermanentheadache Fri 04-Apr-14 11:10:49

Crispy, that's great. hopefully onwards and upwards from hereon in.

I've gone up to 50 mg today. My only side-effect this time around (like previous times) is the runs blush and feeling slightly wired.

I've been on anti-ds again now for about 3-4 weeks and dearie me, I didn't realise how inefficient I'd become at work. It's like my brain's switched back on.

chuffchuff Fri 04-Apr-14 11:29:40

Why did I say my side effects were 'urge'? grin. I'll blame it on the spell check....

Apermanent that sounds good - I could do with my brain being switched on a bit more. Do you mean you were taking a half dose for the last few weeks? It's good to hear you can start to feel better even on just that.

apermanentheadache Fri 04-Apr-14 11:32:37

Chuffchuff no I am also on another AD called Mirtazapine. This was the one I started 3-4 weeks ago. I added in 25 mg sertraline a week ago (as this combo is what worked best for me last time when I had a really severe episode). Now I'm taking 50mg sertraline in the AM and 30 mg Mirtazapine before bed. Mirtazapine is very sedating and my main issue is sleep going wonky so it suits me. Makes you horribly fat though!

apermanentheadache Fri 04-Apr-14 11:33:20

The Mirtazapine makes me fat, not the sertraline, I meant. It's well-known for doing that. Don't want to set alarm bells ringing for you!

kazzawazzawoo Fri 04-Apr-14 12:24:33

That's good news crispy smile

kazzawazzawoo Fri 04-Apr-14 12:32:21

Chuffchuff glad you feel a bit better on half a tablet.

I'm feeling ok today, slept well last night so not as tired.

NuggetofPurestGreen Fri 04-Apr-14 12:47:39

Hi there glad I found this thread. I just started Lustral (sertraline) last night, took half a tablet as per doctors instruction, will be going up to 50g after a week. I was told take it at night, slept okay last night. No noticeable side effects so far but I was feeling pretty crappy and headachey etc anyway so don't know what's what.

I really hope they make me feel better!!

kazzawazzawoo Fri 04-Apr-14 15:00:39

Hello Nugget. Keep us posted on how you get on with the tablets. I'm on day 5 of 25mg a day and feeling ok at the moment. I'm very worried about increasing to 50mg soon though.

NuggetofPurestGreen Fri 04-Apr-14 15:02:36

Thanks kazza. Yeah I'm worried too, that's why I've avoided going on ads for years. I don't tend to cope with physical illness or side effects well, can't just "power through" the way some people seem to.

kazzawazzawoo Fri 04-Apr-14 15:06:05

Same here nugget. I have health anxiety and emetaphobia (fear of vomiting) and just go to pieces if confronted with it (we're talking rocking back and forth crying in a corner!) so have put off considering ads for a long time. But looking back at how long this has affected my life, I can't go on like this, so need to give it a try.

NuggetofPurestGreen Fri 04-Apr-14 15:25:12

I have health anxiety as well so I think the mildest side effects mean I'm dying. I hate any physical unwellness. But the stress/anxiety/depression is making me physically sick now so I have to try them.

NuggetofPurestGreen Fri 04-Apr-14 15:26:34

I'm also worried about putting on weight when that probably isn't the thing I should be focused on but I have a lot of anxiety around food too so don't want to make that worse (and also don't want to get fat!)

apermanentheadache Fri 04-Apr-14 18:52:06

SSRIs like Sertraline are not usually associated with weight gain - don't worry. Mirtazapine works in a different way. Back in the day I was at my thinnest ever while taking sertraline grin.

kazzawazzawoo Fri 04-Apr-14 19:09:01

I heard that about sertraline too, that you don't tend to put on weight with it. Fingers crossed.

I crave sweet things when I'm stressed or unhappy. At the moment taking sertraline isn't making me hungrier than usual.

chuffchuff Fri 04-Apr-14 19:41:39

I keep feeling so sick I can't imagine ever putting on weight again atm sad

I felt fine today until I had to go out in the car and got really travel sick - it's like being pregnant without all the excitement...

Anyone else had that?

Hi nugget smile

kazzawazzawoo Fri 04-Apr-14 19:43:46

Aw sorry to hear that chuff hmm I haven't been on any long car journeys since starting it, so haven't had that experience.

chuffchuff Fri 04-Apr-14 19:48:01

I was only doing the school run - which is only about half a mile down the road as I'm a lazy cow at the moment - probably serves me right smile

kazzawazzawoo Fri 04-Apr-14 19:51:56

I'm sure it will settle soon. Hang on in there. You still have the higher dose in your body maybe? Once your body gets used to the half dose, maybe it'll improve?

chuffchuff Fri 04-Apr-14 20:33:49

Maybe smile. I had been taking St. John's wort for ages as well and GP had said to just stop taking them and start on the sertraline straight away - I'm wondering if I could have had some funny reaction to suddenly stopping the Sjw. Not that it had seemed to be doing anything....

Not looking forward to going up to 50 though.

kazzawazzawoo Fri 04-Apr-14 21:42:29

Hmm possible ... I don't know anything about SJW. I really hope you start to feel better soon. I'm not looking forward to increasing the dose either. I have an appointment to go back to my gp on 23rd April as she only gave me a month's supply.

chuffchuff Sat 05-Apr-14 15:24:48

Hi - just signed in to see how everyone's doing today? I'm feeling ok ATM, not as sick as yesterday and got a whole night's sleep last night smile

The sun is shining and it's a lovely day which is helping!

kazzawazzawoo Sat 05-Apr-14 20:39:43

Glad you're feeling better today chuffchuff smile. I'm feeling ok, just tired - but I did sleep well last night, just I was late going to bed and didn't get enough sleep as ydd got us up early because it's her birthday. I'm on day 6 of taking 25mg, feel fine at the moment.

chuffchuff Sat 05-Apr-14 21:13:55

That's good smile hope dd enjoyed her birthday.

kazzawazzawoo Sat 05-Apr-14 21:31:39

It involved shopping, she' s 13, so very happy! Now have her three friends over for a sleepover shock

kazzawazzawoo Sun 06-Apr-14 20:27:06

How's it going today? I'm on day 7 and no side effects. Three more days before I increase my dose. I wish I didn't have to double it!

chuffchuff Sun 06-Apr-14 20:37:16

Not too bad - have felt a little bit jittery some days and today was one if them - although for the last few months I've had days like that anyway with no meds to blame it on confused.

I think I'm worse on days like today when I'm not busy doing 'stuff' and I just sit around thinking about my symptoms blush

I'm not looking forward to increasing the dose either, my doctor wants me to up it after seven days.

Did you manage to get any sleep last night then? I've never had more than one of the dcs friends over for a sleepover at once before and that was bad enough!

kazzawazzawoo Sun 06-Apr-14 20:39:38

The girls were well behaved. I did put earplugs in though and slept for about seven hours, they woke up at 8.

kazzawazzawoo Sun 06-Apr-14 20:41:34

I think jitteriness is a common side effect for sertraline.

chuffchuff Sun 06-Apr-14 20:47:57

Yes I've read that too smile

chuffchuff Sun 06-Apr-14 20:48:20

Why did I do a smiley then?....

chuffchuff Tue 08-Apr-14 09:35:18

I'm going up to 50mg today and feeling a bit nervous about it - made me feel completely crap first time round but hopefully it won't be so bad now I'm going up from 25mg....

How's everybody else getting on?

kazzawazzawoo Tue 08-Apr-14 09:44:32

Chuffchuff, I've increased to 50mg today too. Also feeling nervous sad sad but have to do it at some point and I'm not at work today, so it's a good day to try it.

chuffchuff Tue 08-Apr-14 09:54:18

Oh have you? That makes me feel a bit better, we can have a moan to each other grin. I'm taking mine at lunchtime, I am working this week but am off next week - so I'm hoping I can muddle through the rest of this week and that I'll be over the worst of it next week so I can have some nice days off.....

kazzawazzawoo Tue 08-Apr-14 11:26:57

Yes, moan away smile. Hopefully we'll be fine. How have you been the last few days? I've not really noticed side effects, apart from a headache that could be due to totm.

I was going to wait two more days, but thought last night, what's the point, when I feel fine, I might as well increase now? I have an appointment to see my gp on the 23rd and would like to have an idea of whether it's helping or not by then, as I guess she'll ask me?

I took mine at 9.30 this morning and feel ok so far, just a headache that is easily manageable at the moment. Keep me posted how you get on smile

chuffchuff Tue 08-Apr-14 11:32:59

Well that's a good sign if you took yours a couple of hours ago and you're still ok <fingers crossed>smile

I'm taking mine in a minute - I actually noticed last night when I was flopped out on the sofa that I was feeling really relaxed and 'normal', no racing thoughts & worries or anything. So that must be a good sign I hope!

Watching this with interest, DD is going to start tomorrow (can only get it from pharmacy in evening but has to have it after breaking) starting at 25mg, then working up. confused

chuffchuff Tue 08-Apr-14 11:50:59

Hi Panda - I'm sure she'll be ok smile. I felt pretty yuck to start with but that was because I thought I'd be clever and start with 50mg rather than working up blush. I went back down to 25mg for a week and was ok after that, just felt a bit nauseous on and off but nothing too bad.

*after breakfast

kazzawazzawoo Tue 08-Apr-14 15:36:39

Hi Panda, I hope dd is ok. I started on 25mg too and have been fine apart from very brief nausea.

kazzawazzawoo Tue 08-Apr-14 20:53:32

Chuffchuff, hope you're ok? Today hasn't been too bad here, I'm very tired, which may or may not be due to the increase in Sertraline and I felt slightly nauseous this afternoon, not unbearable so far, hope it stays that way. Looking forward to bed, but no point in going early - dh is out and won't be back til 11.30 ish.

chuffchuff Tue 08-Apr-14 21:26:59

Hi Kazza smile. I'm not too bad, felt a little bit sick on and off today and a bit dozy.

One slightly wierd thing is that I have a sore throat tonight and a really dry mouth - I'm swallowing constantly and earlier on I started feeling a bit freaked out by it blush. Do you think it's a side effect or just a coincidence? Trouble is I've found if I google side effects just about everything you can think of is listed, some of it quite horrible!

Thought I was doing really well until my throat started hurting sad

You'd never guess I have Anxiety problems would you? grin

kazzawazzawoo Tue 08-Apr-14 21:53:04

I've seen the dry mouth mentioned on mn as a side effect, so it probably is linked.

I can't even start googling or I go to pieces. I know how you feel, really hoping the tablets help with the constant anxiety.

chuffchuff Tue 08-Apr-14 23:10:42

Me too - it's knackering!

Overall I don't feel anything like as bad as I thought I would so that's good - hopefully we'll both have a good day tomorrow smile

kazzawazzawoo Wed 09-Apr-14 00:03:58

Let's hope so. smile

chuffchuff Wed 09-Apr-14 09:38:28

Morning Kazza smile How are you feeling today?

I don't know if I'm just imagining it (is it too early to actually feel the benefit yet?) but I feel like something has shifted a bit today, like things seem a bit brighter and optimistic. Probably helps that the sun's shining!

I've still got a really dry mouth/sore throat but other than that I feel ok and slept ok last night - so I'm hoping the up in meds won't effect me too badly this time....

kazzawazzawoo Wed 09-Apr-14 10:30:03

Hi Chuffchuff, feeling ok today, apart from being full of cold and tired. But I slept ok and feel ok. I did have a bit of a dry mouth last night in bed, but nothing too bad.

Glad you feel like things are lifting a bit.smile

kazzawazzawoo Wed 09-Apr-14 19:24:40

Not feeling too good tonight. Cold and a bit shivery, bit upset stomach, very tired. Early night for me!

chuffchuff Wed 09-Apr-14 19:47:46

Sorry to hear that sad

I feel worse than yesterday too, it must take a while for the upped dose to get into your system. I've still got a sore throat and feel a bit hot and feeble, like I'm coming down with something. I think it must be side effects, too much of a coincidence otherwise. Planning on falling asleep on the sofa soon and hoping DH takes over with the dcs bath times, etc smile

Hope you feel a bit better tomorrow.

kazzawazzawoo Wed 09-Apr-14 20:23:23

It must be to do with the increased dose then. I too feel like I'm coming down with something. Have let dh do the cooking smile I think the second day was worst for me with the low initial dose too. Hope you feel better tomorrow smile

chuffchuff Thu 10-Apr-14 10:28:18

Hi - just signing in to say that I'm feeling a bit better today on day 10 for me, third day on upped dose smile. The extra dose didn't seem to affect my sleep at all last night - I actually slept right through and was woken by the alarm, which hardly ever happens smile.

Feeling cautiously optimistic today....

kazzawazzawoo Thu 10-Apr-14 10:44:52

That's good smile Unfortunately I had a rubbish night. Not sure whether it's meds related or not. Feel better today though. Hope it lasts!

chuffchuff Thu 10-Apr-14 13:09:11

Sorry to hear you had a rough night, but hopefully feeling better today is a good sign. I definitely feel better than yesterday smile

kazzawazzawoo Thu 10-Apr-14 14:03:14

Thanks smile Until last night I thought things might be picking up a bit, but then laid awake for hours, running through all the terrible things that have happened in my life. Hopefully tonight will be better.

When do you go back to see your gp?

chuffchuff Thu 10-Apr-14 14:14:10

In two weeks, so when I've been on it three weeks. He said he was sure I would be feeling considerably better by the time I see him next - although by the state I was in when I saw him that's not hard, he definitely saw me at my worst blush

kazzawazzawoo Thu 10-Apr-14 20:36:40

I have an appointment on 23rd. Hoping I'll start to feel a difference by then.

How's today been? I don't feel as bad as yesterday, but not quite right either. Very tired though.

chuffchuff Thu 10-Apr-14 21:01:38

Today's been a lot better for me side effect-wise. I felt a little bit queasy after I took my tablet but I'm finding as long as I don't go to long without eating something I feel ok I think. And I didn't have a sore throat at all today, just a dry mouth still. I do still feel like I'm 'on something', like a little bit spacey and tired, but I'm definitely feeling more 'normal' every day.

Something else I've realised is that the horrible, adrenaline gut churning feeling I've woken up with every day for ages is hardly there at all.

I am still a bit up and down, but overall, considering it can take a few more weeks for the tablets to even work properly, I'm feeling quite optimistic smile

kazzawazzawoo Thu 10-Apr-14 21:24:10

That's great! I hope it continues to improve smile

I feel ok now, the slightly ill feeling has passed again.

I've not been feeling too spaced, just tired and had a headache.

kazzawazzawoo Fri 11-Apr-14 13:44:08

Still feeling a bit rubbish and didn't sleep well last night again. I've got next week off work, so hope a bit of a rest will help.

chuffchuff Fri 11-Apr-14 14:02:46

Sorry to hear that - as you say, a rest will probably help, especially if you're feeling tired. I'm feeling quite 'normal' today, don't even feel sick at all for the first time since I started on the tablets.

Am surprised how quickly the side effects have worn off to be honest, considering how completely crap I felt when I started.

Hope you start to feel better soon smile

kazzawazzawoo Fri 11-Apr-14 14:18:25

Glad you feel ok. I just get waves of slight nausea occasionally and my stomach is a bit upset. I always panic I'm coming down with something though sad Stupid!

MyHuckingFormones Fri 11-Apr-14 14:20:18

Yes I suffered with side effects after taking just one 50mg tablet of sertraline.

I was completely unable to go to sleep that night, which is unheard of for me as I can sleep for England. Also I had diarrhea.

chuffchuff Fri 11-Apr-14 14:22:57

Are you ok now myhucking?

kazzawazzawoo Sat 12-Apr-14 22:01:17

How's everyone today? I'm still feeling quite ropey sad I did sleep better last night though.

mrsbirdie Sat 12-Apr-14 22:36:41

Started on my first half tablet today (25mg for first week, upping it to 50mg a day after that) - would appreciate it if I could jump on the support of this thread!

Am hoping they will improve things, anxiety has worsened severely in the last year and become near unbearable. Realising they're not a magic wand though!

kazzawazzawoo Sun 13-Apr-14 00:20:34

Hi Mrsbirdie smile Hope you soon feel better

I took 25mg for 8 days, I've now been on 50mg for 4 days. I've suffered a little with side effects, not as bad as I feared, thank goodness. Let us know how you get on.

chuffchuff Sun 13-Apr-14 10:13:29

Hi mrsbirdie smile

[kazza] sorry to hear you're still feeling rough - maybe sleeping better is a good sign though and means the side effects are starting to go?

Apart from a dry mouth I can't really notice any side effects any more. Don't suddenly feel loads better either though, just kind of back to how I was but without my mind racing over things so much if that makes sense. Everyone does say it takes a few weeks for the tablets to really make much difference though and I'm not even two weeks in yet....

kazzawazzawoo Sun 13-Apr-14 10:56:38

Chuffchuff, glad you've few side effects. I slept well last night, so hopefully won't be as tired today. Looking forward to having some time off.

I think I feel slightly less anxious than I did at the moment.

mrsbirdie Sun 13-Apr-14 16:37:31

Thank you for your lovely welcomes smile

Feeling utterly horrendous today, I've just sort of sat here all day and done nothing. Very anxious day, lots to do (not getting done) - had to deal with one of my big 'anxiety triggers' earlier which has made me feel crap. Am at my parents for the week so am being nicely coddled by my DM, though feel a bit like I just want to be left alone.

Not sure whether to expect side effects yet. Feeling a bit sick in waves and not like eating, but thats not particularly unusual as thats how I get when I'm fretting anyway. Fingers crossed in a few weeks/months things will be rosier.

chuffchuff Sun 13-Apr-14 19:05:54

I did feel really sick for about ten days mrs then it started to wear off, I don't feel sick at all now and I've only been on the meds for 12 days. To be honest I felt pretty roped for about the first week, but reading positive stories on here about how much better people are feeling on the meds weeks/ months down the line made me persevere smile

chuffchuff Sun 13-Apr-14 19:08:28

Ps - meant to say the sicky feeling was very much like morning sickness for me; I found it was much worse if I had an empty stomach, and if I kept nibbling on something plain, a rich tea biscuit or some bread, it really helped it go off.

kazzawazzawoo Sun 13-Apr-14 19:10:34

Mrsbirdie I felt like that too, the nausea came in waves, but bearable, but I was tired and felt like I was coming down with something. It does get better, stick with it. I found the nausea from 25mg wore off after a day or two.

Treasa24 Sun 13-Apr-14 19:45:29

Can I jump in here? New to this thread. Day two for me and both day one and today been getting a sore throat and dull headaches. Nothing I can't handle but headaches are one of the possible side effects?

Went to my GP for something to help me sleep - she, however, wanted to talk about depression (I must have looked miserable) and ended up prescribing sertraline. Not sleeping pills so my guess is she wouldn't want me taking both. Still waking up very early in the morning, worried about the next day at work (work is utterly awful - hence my feeling so down).

Out of interest, is anyone taking sertraline and sleeping meds? Sertraline would be compatible with a more natural sleeping remedy? Thanks!

chuffchuff Sun 13-Apr-14 20:06:19

Hi treasa. I sometimes have a cup of Clipper Sleep Easy tea before bed if I'm feeling a bit wired. It contains valerian and really seems to help.

apermanentheadache Sun 13-Apr-14 21:26:35

Treasa, I have taken (in the past) sertraline and sleeping pills (both prescribed) at the same time but....I am not keen on sleeping tablets. IMO the sleep they bring is not very restful, although who knows how much worse I would have been without them...and maybe your experience would be different. They are highly addictive and can cause rebound insomnia when you stop taking them, though. Unfortunately....

I can't imagine it's going to cause any harm to take a natural remedy like valerian or hops with sertraline. I'd steer clear of anything stronger though unless prescribed (and also things like st. john's wort).

There are other antidepressants that are good where sleep is a major issue - e.g., mirtazapine but that comes with its own issues, namely: significant weight gain and for the first 2-3 weeks feeling like you've been hit over the head with a frying pan the next morning grin although this does wear off with treatment.

The sertraline should stop the early morning waking and make you less anxious. Is there a anything that can be done about work sad?

I'm doing really well on my sertraline/ mirtazapine combo. I would stay on it for ever if the mirtazapine didn't make me so overweight sad. I am bursting out of some of my clothes already....aaaargh.

mrsbirdie Mon 14-Apr-14 17:51:11

Am on day 3. Has anyone else had something along the lines of just feeling like their eye's are about 10 seconds behind the rest of you? Sounds odd, I don't feel particularly spaced out otherwise, but I feel like my eyes are lagging behind everything else.

Had a very panicky morning and felt sick as a dog but magically have pulled it together a bit this afternoon. With the exception of my eyes which think they are in treacle...

Treasa24 Mon 14-Apr-14 17:59:02

mrsbirdie - day 3 - ditto! Hope you feel a lot better soon.

Thanks for replies chuff and apermanen - I like the suggestion about valerian in a night time drink and appreciate caveats about mirtazapine.

Instructed to take my 50 g every morning but with such weariness now and it's not even 6 pm, am wondering if I should switch to the evening. In the scheme of things, does it matter when?

apermanentheadache Mon 14-Apr-14 18:30:48

Re time of dosing of sertraline - no, it's fine to take anytime but people usually take it am as it can be quite activating at first.

kazzawazzawoo Mon 14-Apr-14 22:29:48

Hi and welcome Treasa smile

Hope everyone's ok today. I think I'm feeling a bit better, despite having another bad night, not sleeping well at all. Because I'm so tired I keep feeling asleep in the afternoon when at home.

Has anyone had an alcoholic drink whilst taking sertraline? I'm not planning to, I know it says not to in the patient information leaflet. I just wondered if people don't at all, even if taking it long term. we might meet friends Wednesday night and I don't want to explain why I'm not drinking.

apermanentheadache Mon 14-Apr-14 22:31:16

Yes I have drunk. Never had an issue. My friend, however, gets drunk quicker on sertraline.

kazzawazzawoo Mon 14-Apr-14 22:38:24

I get drunk after just one glass of wine at the best of times, so probably not a good idea then.

chuffchuff Mon 14-Apr-14 23:25:27

treasa I've heard that it's better to take it am because it can cause sleep problems if taken later - don't know if that's true. If it's any help, I stopped feeling wiped out every afternoon after about a week of taking it.

chuffchuff Mon 14-Apr-14 23:26:50

Ha ha me too. Can't imagine not having another drink for god knows how long though - I might have a small one at Easter & see how it goes smile

kazzawazzawoo Mon 14-Apr-14 23:46:11

Yes, I want to be able to drink at some point. I have a bottle of champagne in the fridge I was given at work at Christmas that I'd like to have some timewink

chuffchuff Wed 16-Apr-14 21:32:45

Hi how's everyone been getting on? I had a pretty good day today - the mum of one of dcs school friends had asked if we wanted to meet up at a theme park today. Normally the way I've been feeling I would make an excuse, getting stressed about driving that far and being 'stuck' somewhere if I felt panicky, etc. Anyway the dc overheard me being asked and were so excited I found myself saying yes.

Anyway the day out was today and u was dreading it. But I forced myself to go and after a few minutes in the car I was expecting the panic feelings to start - but they didn't smile. I actually ended up having a really nice day and so did the dc smilesmile.

I don't know if it was the meds or just me thinking they were making me ok but either way it's all good....

kazzawazzawoo Wed 16-Apr-14 21:39:59

That's great Chuffchuff, fall glad you had a nice day out.

kazzawazzawoo Thu 17-Apr-14 21:18:42

Hope everyone's ok?

All side effects gone apart from headaches. I'm sleeping better too. Not feeling happier, but I know it's early days yet. In fact I've been having a major meltdown, worrying about returning to work next Tuesday, thinking I can't cope and can't do the job. I just want to shut myself away alone and it scares me when I feel this down and hopeless sad sad

chuffchuff Thu 17-Apr-14 22:49:06

Kazza sorry to hear that sad

Is there something about your job that makes you feel stressed out or is it just that you're feeling that way generally?

They do say it takes a few weeks for the tablets to really make a noticeable difference - and it's good that your side effects are going - I wouldn't want to go through the last couple of weeks again...

kazzawazzawoo Fri 18-Apr-14 01:22:54

I just don't feel I'm doing my job well. I started a year ago but was thrown in at the deep end as my colleague had a lot of time off due to illness in the family. I think I'm ok at my job if I stay calm, but hate standing in for her when she's off, which I've had to do a lot. I have no experience in her side of things and don't seem to get any better at it with time. She deals with solicitors a lot of the time and they're not very helpful either. I constantly feel inadequate and stupid. sad

apermanentheadache Fri 18-Apr-14 21:29:55

Aww Kazza, you are still early days in your treatment. I would say it took me a good couple of months post- starting sertraline (first time) to find my feet at work. But boy, did it make a massive difference when it did.

The fear of doing things (e.g., going back to work) is always SO much worse than the reality I find. I went back week before last. Was not looking forward to it. But...i.t was totally fine.

I am not really one for self-help books but "feel the fear and do it anyway" is absolutely brilliant. I read it about 15 years ago and I still think about it often.

apermanentheadache Fri 18-Apr-14 21:31:06

Aww Kazza, you are still early days in your treatment. I would say it took me a good couple of months post- starting sertraline (first time) to find my feet at work. But boy, did it make a massive difference when it did.

The fear of doing things (e.g., going back to work) is always SO much worse than the reality I find. I went back week before last. Was not looking forward to it. But...i.t was totally fine.

I am not really one for self-help books but "feel the fear and do it anyway" is absolutely brilliant. I read it about 15 years ago and I still think about it often.

kazzawazzawoo Fri 18-Apr-14 22:20:29

Thanks smile I'm just worried this is as good as it'll get with the sertraline.

Hope things go ok for you at work. I'm in tomorrow for half a day, but on my own, which is ok.

kazzawazzawoo Fri 18-Apr-14 22:30:13

I think I have Feel The Fear somewhere, will have a look for it, thanks for the tip.

mrsbirdie Sat 19-Apr-14 14:37:33

Day 7 (feel like the voice over from Big Brother) and frankly today is a great big crock of shit. I feel like an absolute bundle of nerves and I keep flicking between a couple of my key anxiety mainstays. Its exhausting, even though I slept for about eleven hours last night (is this a sertraline thing, or just me being knackered?) Have essays to write today and dinner to cook, as well as cleaning to do and I just want to curl up in a little ball in bed and do sod all but feel sorry for myself. I just long for the feeling of being able to relax and think that everything is taken care of.

Have the added bonus of something funny going on with one of my boobs (nothing to do with the sertraline, was going on for a week or so before I started taking it - assumed it was a pulled muscle or PMS related pain but is still lingering) that I won't be able to get checked out for over a week. Health anxiety not something I suffer from, its more that it just feels like one thing after another lately. DP also been ill this week, enough for a late night trip to A&E, and I am 100 miles away at the moment so not being able to get there made it worse somehow.

Upside: no physical side effects today (bar the improving dry mouth) after a pretty good day yesterday too - only had a bit of nausea in the afternoon.

Sorry for a rant, hope others are doing ok today and enjoying the sun!

apermanentheadache Sat 19-Apr-14 21:40:44

The ramped-up anxiety is likely a side effect, mrsbirdie. Horrible while it lasts but probably (strangely) a good Sign that it's going to do something positive for you.

Sounds like stressful life events too (deadlines, illness etc). Can you get deadline extension? Am sure if you waved your script at the uni they would be sympathetic.

chuffchuff Sat 19-Apr-14 22:22:35

Hi again all smile

kazza I know what you mean about wondering if this is 'it' for the medication - I still have very up and down days and keep having to remind myself that all the info I read says it takes 6 - 8 weeks to take full effect and we're not three weeks in yet smile

Mrsbirdie - sorry you're feeling crap - I did too after seven days but honestly, if you're anything like me you will already be over the worst of the side effects and in another two or three days they will really be going off.

kazzawazzawoo Sun 20-Apr-14 00:29:37

Hi all, Mrsbirdie, hope you feel better soon. I remember feeling like that too but as Chuffchuff said the side effects should stop any day now.

I went back to work today, just for 4 hours. Tuesday I'm doing 4 hours too, then back to normal from Wednesday. I felt ok today, a bit more optimistic. It IS early days, hopefully eventually I will feel more like my old self.

mrsbirdie Mon 21-Apr-14 06:56:46

Hi all.

Well done kazza, that's brilliant! One step at a time.

Had a horrendous night last night. Was under instructions to up my dose to a full tablet after 8 days or so, took my first full one last night - woke up at 5am this morning feeling like an anxious mess. Waking early likely to do with the three hour nap I took yesterday (oops!) and the anxiety mainly surrounding bills, which are a bit 'issue' for me. But just feel a bit jittery and on edge. Was hoping the side effects when increasing the dose wouldn't be too bad but it seems I've not gotten away with it. Trying desperately to distract myself with little luck. Any ideas?

Sorry for yet another massive moan.

kazzawazzawoo Mon 21-Apr-14 11:15:25

Sorry increasing the dose affected you. My sleep was affected too and I have a tendency to lie awake thinking about bills sad Not got any ideas for distraction I'm afraid I hope tonight you'll be so tired you'll sleep well.

chuffchuff Tue 22-Apr-14 22:18:43

Hi how is everyone today?

I had my follow up docs appointment today as have now been on the meds three weeks. He asked me lots of questions about how I'm sleeping, how I'm doing day to day, how I'm feeling etc. He said he's happy that I do generally feel I'm getting better which is a really good sign as it's still early days. He also said in his experience it's also a good sign that I felt so rough with the side effects to start with because that means I am very sensitive to the meds and that means they are likely to work much better in the long run!

He said again that it will take a few more weeks for me to feel the full effect, and that basically over the next few weeks he would expect me to feel better and better smile.

So anyway I now have another two weeks supply and am feeling quite optimistic.....

chuffchuff Tue 22-Apr-14 22:20:55

Sorry not two weeks, I meant two months!

kazzawazzawoo Tue 22-Apr-14 23:00:11

Hi Chuffchuff, I have my follow up appointment tomorrow. Glad yours went ok. smile

I went back to work today after almost ten days off-I worked a half day Saturday-which was hard. Had a terrible night too, as I woke up when dd went to the bathroom and lay awake for ages worrying she was ill. Totally over the top but that's how I over react.

kazzawazzawoo Wed 23-Apr-14 09:48:18

I saw my gp this morning. She's happy for me to continue with the ads and I've to go back in 2 months to see how I'm getting on.

chuffchuff Wed 23-Apr-14 18:12:32

Snap! smile

kazzawazzawoo Wed 23-Apr-14 18:35:03

Quite a relief, I think I was worried after going through those side effects she would take me off them again.

chuffchuff Wed 23-Apr-14 21:03:00

Well I'm taking it as a big positive that my doc basically said the worse the side effects at the start, the bigger effect the meds are likely to have on you. Hopefully the same goes for you smile

Stuffragette Thu 24-Apr-14 15:38:29

Can I have a hand to hold? I am veteran depression sufferer. I am bipolar, but the depressive end of the scale. I was on mood stabilisers (lamotrogine and quetiapine) and taking venlafaxine at the same time. The three together were amazing. So amazing that my psychiatrist and I agreed that I could try coming off the ads. Really bad move. Since finishing the ads and just being on mood stabilisers, the world has crashed around me. So I am now back to being on ads. I tried to go back onto venlafaxine, but it just didn't seem to touch the sides. So I am now sat here with a packet of sertraline in front of me. I made the huge mistake of 'researching' googling the side effects and I am now officially terrified. I just don't know if I can face an increase in symptoms, esp the anxiety. Please tell me it's worth it. I don't think I can take much more.

Stuffragette Thu 24-Apr-14 15:39:23

And the anxiety over this has made me eat a packet of party rings. Oh the guilt.

kazzawazzawoo Thu 24-Apr-14 16:06:33

Stuff, sorry to hear that.

I've been taking sertraline for three and a bit weeks. I did have side effects, but not increased anxiety However, I know the side effects can differ from person to person. Are you starting on a low dose?

Stuffragette Thu 24-Apr-14 20:19:30

I'm starting on 50mg, but he wants me to increase over 3 weeks to 150mg. I love my psychiatrist and have complete faith in him. So I know I have to try this. But I am soooooooo worried about side effects. But if this doesn't work, my next option in lithium, which is another level scary.

chuffchuff Thu 24-Apr-14 20:49:35

Sorry to hear you're having a rough time suffragette

I was really worried about side effects too, but I was feeling so crap I just made myself start on the meds and tried to think of it as the first step towards getting better smile

I did have side effects for about the first ten days, although I didn't feel more anxious particularly [im taking them for anxiety]. I did feel quite nauseous but found it helped if I didn't allow myself to go to long without eating and just kept nibbling little things. I had also heard they can affect your sleep to start with so I take mine in the morning to minimise that and I sleep fine...

chuffchuff Thu 24-Apr-14 20:51:43

Btw - you asked if it's worth it - I've also only been taking them three and a half weeks, and I know I still have a way to go, but overall I am definitely feeling better already. So yes, IMO it's definitely worth it.

kazzawazzawoo Fri 25-Apr-14 19:22:20

I took my prescription to Boots today, where I think I collected my first pack, but I've been given a different pack/brand. I'm really worried about this (not what I need! ) sad I asked the chemist and she said it would be the same. Fingers crossed. I can't face having the side effects all over again sad

chuffchuff Fri 25-Apr-14 20:24:23

Have you started taking the new ones yet or do you still have a few days of the old ones left? It might be worth phoning your docs to check. Have you dared google it? smile

It's probably fine but I would wonder too...

kazzawazzawoo Fri 25-Apr-14 20:26:25

I have a few days left. I'll google it and see smile

apermanentheadache Fri 25-Apr-14 20:59:10

I get - variously - sertraline HCL or Lustral. Lustral is just a brand name for sertraline, which is now out of patent. There are lots of manufacturers of the generic sertraline but it's all the same stuff.

apermanentheadache Fri 25-Apr-14 21:00:27

So, Kazza, what I was trying to say is you won't get any additional side effects xx

kazzawazzawoo Fri 25-Apr-14 23:00:16

Thanks smile I hope not.

Stuffragette Mon 28-Apr-14 09:02:02

Hi all

I still haven't started my sertraline. I keep getting the packet out but just can't face it. I think my problem is I don't feel as hideous as I did as am on 150mg of venlafaxine. But it isn't enough to make me feel normal, hence why I'm changing. Someone give me a kick up the butt to take one. hmm

merlehaggard Mon 28-Apr-14 09:12:39

I felt very dizzy and ill after taking in the morning (like OP 50g) and changed to take at night and then didn't notice any side affects as I guess just slept through them. I did start to feel better, but was given for stress and anxiety rather than depression. 50g usually is as such a low dose. However, I got worried about the side effects of stopping taking it, and then stopped taking it gradually before my body got too used to it. I still think I felt happier and less anxious when taking it though.

chuffchuff Mon 28-Apr-14 10:14:41

Hi all. How's everyone feeling today?

I felt a bit stressed on and off over the weekend and a bit crappy today. Bit depressing as I seemed to be feeling better over the last couple of weeks sad. Is it normal to be a bit up and down in the first few weeks do you think (will be four weeks tomorrow). Am a bit worried that the good effects might be wearing off a bit or something....

It could just be my pmt flairing up a bit - I usually suffer horrendously with it for at least a week and it is around the right time.

Was really hoping the sertraline was working though.

shopafrolic Mon 28-Apr-14 10:37:20

Hi all, hope you don't mind me posting? I've been on Sertraline 50mg for two months now. The first couple of weeks were very tough, diarrhoea, jaw clenching, felt very anxious but after that I started to feel much better. I now feel like the 'old me' and am able to get much more done, rather than sitting staring into space for hours. I sleep better too as my mind switches off more easily. Definitely stick with it, things do improve I promise.
I wanted to list a few resources that my GP have to me in case they help any of you who have long waiting lists for CBT.
There are three websites that offer online CBT. The first two are free, the third is fee paying.
Google MoodGym, Living Life To The Full, and Beating The Blues.
I was also recommended these books:
the Chimp Paradox by Steve Peters
thinking Fast and Slow by Daniel Kahnermann
You can also talk to the Enhanced Primary Mental Health Service on 0300 777 0707 (not sure is this is UK wide or just local to me but might be worth Googling).
Hope this helps and sorry to butt in! smile

chuffchuff Mon 28-Apr-14 11:07:45

Hi shopafrolic thanks for your post - and no need to apologise!

It's really helpful to hear positive experiences on here - it's lovely to think that in another month or so I could be feeling so much better; I really hope that's the case anyway....

Did you find you still had up and down days for the first few weeks? I've had a week or two of really feeling like I could notice the difference, but feel a bit duff again today. Do you think that's just a blip?

shopafrolic Mon 28-Apr-14 11:50:03

Definitely had up and down days. And am still a little low for the days before my period but nothing like it used to be. I was told by a GP friend that it is not uncommon to feel great, and then dip, it can sometimes mean that your dose needs adjusting. If it carries on then perhaps think about going back to your GP?

chuffchuff Mon 28-Apr-14 12:07:24

Thanks shopafrolic.

Saw my GP last week and told him I think I feel the meds working sometimes but still feel stressed now and then. He said it can take a few weeks to get the full effect and to go back in a month (so three weeks from now) if I don't feel better by then.

I'm probably just being impatient but I had a few days of feeling noticeably better and I want to stay that way!

apermanentheadache Mon 28-Apr-14 19:18:26

I would definitely be on the lookout for PMT - I find it's the only time of month I feel bad while on sertraline. It's not as bad as unmedicated PMT, nowhere near, but I will feel rubbish for 3 days or so and get properly fed up, period arrives, and then I go 'Ohhhhhh'.

chuffchuff Mon 28-Apr-14 19:47:06

Hopefully that's what it is/was.... I can be a bit negative sometimes (surprise surprise!) so I have a day of not feeling so good and I panic that it's all going downhill. Will give myself a kick up the bum and try and be a but more positive - and keep reminding myself I'm not even four weeks in yet.

shopafrolic Mon 28-Apr-14 20:06:02

Me too apermanentheadache - but isn't it great to find there was a reason? I always feel very relieved smile

apermanentheadache Mon 28-Apr-14 20:46:23

A day of not feeling so good is to be expected here and there... give it a couple more weeks chuff and see how you're getting on. There's always the option of increasing the dose a bit to see if that knocks it on the head. My GP said that 200mg was sometimes used and many of my depressed buddies are on 100mg or more. I've always fared alright on 50mg but that could be just due to my particular body chemistry. I'd imagine it's very individual.

apermanentheadache Mon 28-Apr-14 20:47:05

shopa.. yes: always so good when you have that lightbulb moment smile

chuffchuff Mon 28-Apr-14 20:52:37

Thanks permanent smile

My GP doesn't want to up my dose unless after giving it another month from when I saw him (a week ago) I haven't noticed an improvement - so yes, as you say, I do need to give it more time.

apermanentheadache Mon 28-Apr-14 21:02:54

Is hard, though. You just want to feel better now, I know what it's like. Keep the faith. If this doesn't work, it's not the end of the road. There are other things that might work better for you. SSRIs are largely used in preference to other ADs because of their comparatively better side-effect profile - they aren't necessarily more effective than other classes of AD.

chuffchuff Mon 28-Apr-14 21:18:14

Thanks - it really, really helps me reading other peoples experiences / advice on this thread smile

And suffragette sorry - only just noticed your last post - but I am sending you a belated kick up the bum smile. Just take half a tablet for the first few days if you're really worried maybe?

Stuffragette Tue 29-Apr-14 15:06:42

I have taken the first tablet. So far just a bit of wooziness. Fingers crossed it doesn't get too bad. How is everyone today?

kazzawazzawoo Tue 29-Apr-14 16:31:24

Hello Stuff and everyone smile

Stuff, hope you get on with them ok. I started with half a tablet like Chuffchuff for 8 days, I had some nausea and struggled to sleep a few nights, but it quickly passed. I'm now nearing the end of the first packet.

chuffchuff Tue 29-Apr-14 17:28:19

Hi everyone and we'll done suffragette for raking the plunge smile

I'm feeling a bit better today again - I think I just had a bit of pmt and panicked that I was getting worse again - I don't seem to be getting out of the habit of thinking the worse yet but hopefully that will come; all part of the fun of anxiety I suppose....

kazzawazzawoo Tue 29-Apr-14 17:37:02

Chuffchuff, glad you're feeling a bit better today. Pmt used to cause me huge problems, but I started taking the mini pill a few months ago to try and do something about my heavy painful periods and the pmt has vanished it seems!

I think I feel a little better too, although I am still really struggling with health anxiety and that makes me feel really down sad

I'm coping a bit better at work too.

Stuffragette Tue 29-Apr-14 20:02:10

I agree, PMT really affects my mood, and makes my anxiety or depression worse. I can't take any hormonal contraception as it makes me more of lunatic than I already am.

chuffchuff Tue 29-Apr-14 20:08:59

Oops I meant 'taking' the plunge! not raking! obviously grin

Glad you're ok too kazza - unfortunately I'm not able to take the pill either but I'm hoping the Sertraline will help my pmt a bit - it definitely didn't start as early as it usually does this month so that's a good sign hopefully...

Stuffragette Tue 29-Apr-14 20:10:50

It is also very difficult to not panic when you've had a glimpse of normality to then feel like you're slipping again. If this helps, my Buddhist friend taught me a few tricks. First is to remember, nothing lasts forever, not even the sun! So you must remind yourself this when you are feeling down. Try as much as you can to only think about the moment you are in. This is a tricky one and requires a certain amount of brain training, but when you start to panic, think I don't know what's going to happen in the next 5 minutes. I am going to focus on now. Think about what you're doing. For example if you are sat drinking a cup of tea and you start to worry, just think to yourself, or even say out loud, 'right now, I am drinking a cup of tea'. It keeps you in the moment you're in so you don't project those fears onto the weeks ahead of you. The other one, which I found quite helpful for anxiety is to think of your anxious thoughts as clouds. They are there, above you, but they can't hurt you. They are not concrete, they cannot physically damage you. They are just thoughts that will be blown away by the wind. It helped me to think of these thought clouds being blown away when I was at my worst.

smile

kazzawazzawoo Tue 29-Apr-14 20:37:21

Stuff, that's helpful, thanks. I need little mantras to focus on.

Sorry hormonal contraception isn't an option for you both. I hated the thought of taking it, but it is better than the alternative the doctor offered me.

chuffchuff Tue 29-Apr-14 21:25:47

Oops sorry stuffragette, just realised I've been calling you suffragette blush

I like the sound of the Buddhist stuff - it sounds very similar to mindfulness, which I keep promising myself I will start to practice regularly but never seem to get around to, I tried it a few times and it was really relaxing...

I've also had a go at the mood gym website today which shopafrolic mentioned upthread. It was really interesting and if nothing else I was concentrating on it so much I stopped worrying about how I'm feeling for a bit!

kazzawazzawoo Tue 29-Apr-14 21:28:01

Yes, me too. It's all stuff I want to start doing once dh is back at work in two weeks and I have the house to myself on my days off.

shopafrolic Tue 29-Apr-14 22:12:01

Good to hear Chuffchuff
The Mindfulness book and the CD that comes with it are fab too.
I may have to come off the ADs for a while. I've had an upset stomach for nearly 3 weeks and the GP thinks it could be linked to the ADs. I'm gutted because I was feeling so much better mentally. So I need to start taking them less and less frequently, come off them, hopefully the stomach problems will ease off and then start all over again sad

chuffchuff Wed 30-Apr-14 12:44:31

Aw what a pain shopafrolic. It's wierd that you didn't get that symptom until now isn't it? Maybe even just lowering your dosage will help hopefully so you don't have to start all over again...

Stuffragette Wed 30-Apr-14 13:02:07

Yep, they are based around mindfulness, which I use loads. I also use the app headspace. Its really good. Day two of the pills. One of bipolar drugs are knock out ones so sleep wasn't really affected.

Shopaholic, that sucks. Can they try another one? At least you know that ads work. They just might need to find the one for you.

kazzawazzawoo Wed 30-Apr-14 14:55:36

Shop, that's a pity, hope you find something else that works.

I had a terrible night, couldn't sleep and my mind was whirring. Today I'm so tired, but thankfully extremely busy, so time passes quickly at work.

SoleSource Wed 30-Apr-14 23:12:47

Great thread! smile

GP diagnosed me with depression. I took my first 50mg Sertraline tonight. Feeling OK so far.

kazzawazzawoo Wed 30-Apr-14 23:15:49

Hi Solesource, welcome smile

chuffchuff Wed 30-Apr-14 23:25:15

Hi solesource smile

Hope you continue to feel ok - I started on 50 mg Sertraline 4 weeks ago and have found this thread really helpful. I took half a dose for the first week though after feeling a bit sick on the full dose - I am a bit feeble though smile

nirishma Wed 30-Apr-14 23:41:15

Try taking it with food in your belly. After breakfast is a good time. It's a bit harsh on your tummy otherwise. I know you don't feel hungry but even a bit of toast would help.

SoleSource Wed 30-Apr-14 23:48:49

Thank you kazza and chuffchuff.

Feeling very slightly sick, slight dry mouth.

I'm ready to go through hell to get better.

I scored 20/27 on a depression symptom quiz GP did on me.

Bit scary.

kinkywife Thu 01-May-14 08:20:37

Following this thread with interest.

I was given Setraline yesterday for anxiety/depression, 50 mg dose and took my first before bed last night. Luckily for me I'd read about your experiences first and decided to do a half dose for the first week, at least to try and get used to it. I've never had ADs before so not sure what to expect.

I slept ok - was able to get back off after waking a couple of times but boy do I feel sick this morning!

SoleSource Thu 01-May-14 08:53:05

I feel fine today after first 50mg dose last night before bedtime.

SoleSource Thu 01-May-14 13:46:20

Feeling new brain sensations, feel perkier and better already, i can physically feel it.

chuffchuff Thu 01-May-14 14:45:48

Wow that's really good Sole! I felt so pukey the first few days I don't think I would have noticed anything positive!

SoleSource Thu 01-May-14 15:21:50

No bad side effects here yet but i am a over 20 stones, might dilute the tablets a bit. Dose is being upped in two weeks time to 100mg per day. I do feel perkier though, it must be the medication.

Thank you Chuff smile

shopafrolic Thu 01-May-14 19:28:17

Good stuff Sole
Despite the sickness I definitely felt an improvement in my mood very swiftly.
Unfortunately my news is not so good. It definitely the Sertraline which is meaning I can't recover from this diarrhoea so I'm going to have to wean myself off them and start again once my tummy is fixed sad
Very frustrating.

SoleSource Thu 01-May-14 20:54:49

Thanks Shop smile So sorry to read that. Very frustrating for you, yes. sad

I haven't taken the second tablet yet but started to eel dizzy tonight hmm

chuffchuff Thu 01-May-14 21:11:20

Oh that's a pain shop sad. Do you think there's a chance just lowering the dose could help?

How are you feeling now sole?

I'm having another night of feeling a bit jittery - which results in me spending all night googling what's normal and what's not.... I just wish I could jump forward a few more weeks and see if I'm actually getting anywhere. I did read somewhere in my google-athon that when you start having up and down days it's actually just a sign that you're generally feeling better, so you notice the bad days more, if that makes sense. I hope that's true for me smile

SoleSource Thu 01-May-14 21:21:04

Felt dizzy when i got up from the sofa. Taking next dose at midnight.

kazzawazzawoo Thu 01-May-14 22:56:17

Sole, I felt a bit dizzy at first too. It did go away quickly though, after three days I think. I hope you feel better soon.

kazzawazzawoo Thu 01-May-14 22:57:44

Shop, sorry to hear that. I agree with Chuffchuff, it might be worth starting on half dose next time.

kazzawazzawoo Thu 01-May-14 22:59:26

Chuffchuff, sorry you're feeling jittery sad Hope it passes and you manage to get some sleep.

SoleSource Fri 02-May-14 00:03:53

Thank you kazza smile

Tablet two taken, bit scared sad

How is everybody getting on?

Oh can feel brain pains

chuffchuff Fri 02-May-14 09:16:31

Hi hope everyone's ok today smile

I slept fine last night, it's wierd really cos I keep thinking I'm still really anxious but then I sleep fine - so I can't be that bad really confused

I wish I could just stop analysing myself constantly and just get on with stuff... so frustrating that after the initial side effects wore off I thought I was feeling a lot more chilled, but now I seem to be up and down again. But I keep reading that that's normal in the first few weeks....

Rant over!

kazzawazzawoo Fri 02-May-14 11:25:03

Yes it's early days still isn't it? Glad you slept well, I did too last night. I'm very up and down still, but I have some health issues I need to see the doctor about to put my mind at rest hopefully.

On top of everything I've been underpaid yesterday and my pay is our only income at the moment, I can't manage without my full wage.sad

shopafrolic Fri 02-May-14 12:07:40

Chuffchuff definitely normal in the first few weeks - I was up, then a bit down and then levelled out. Stick with it.
No tablet for me for a couple of days to allow my tummy to settle - fingers crossed.
SoleSource it will get better, stick with it smile

Dwerf Fri 02-May-14 12:46:54

day 5 here. Place marking because this thread has been a helpful reassuring read.

SoleSource Fri 02-May-14 13:01:45

Not noticed a rise in anxiety, slept well, bit dizzy first thing, feeling better here, slight anxiety this morning but i don't really suffer from that anyway. Liking the very sight numb feeling with regards to churning the same negative crap around in my head. I hope this lasts and gets better and better.

Upping dose to 100mg in 2 weeks time might be a whole different story. Not looking forward to that...

Dwerf Fri 02-May-14 13:10:32

I felt stoned all day yesterday, today lightheaded and dizzy, with an upset stomach (though that could be what I ate last night) and a headache from jaw clamping. And I slept like shit last night. I think I'll stay on the sofa today.

SoleSource Fri 02-May-14 13:17:33

Sorry you had rough time Dwerf, just do very little until you feel stronger. I'm hoping for a whoosh of motivation from better emotions, to enable me to get things done and sort out my life once and for all.

shopafrolic Fri 02-May-14 13:34:12

Dwerf the jaw clamping is horrid but it does go.......chill out and take it easy.

Dwerf Fri 02-May-14 13:39:40

It's got to ease off by Tuesday, which is when I start a jobcentre thing I can't really get out of. They are going to love me, the moment I start I've got a list of days off for GP appointments...

kinkywife Fri 02-May-14 13:49:28

Day 2 for me of 25mg - feel sick nearly constantly; headache comes and goes though. Didn't sleep too badly- a bit of tossing and turning but that's all.
Just feeling really sad and lost today - no-one to talk to and trying not to google side effects!
It's reassuring to read that things can get better, I'm determined to stick with it. Hope we're all feeling better soon. smile

SoleSource Fri 02-May-14 14:00:15

Why a i having such an aeasy time of it on day 2, 50mg?

Is it my weight? I'm really heavy so the medication is diluted?

Feeling better but the 100mg i'm dreading a bit. Probably be here maoning my head off.

SoleSource Fri 02-May-14 14:01:02

oh and a side effect is fatal vaginal bleeding wtf????

Dwerf Fri 02-May-14 14:13:00

I felt fine on day 2 Solesource, it didn't kick in much at all until about day 4. And I'm not light.

I wouldn't worry too much about the fatal vaginal bleeding. It probably happened to one person and so had to be reported. If it was common, it wouldn't be licensed, not much sense trying to cure your patients with something likely to kill them.

SoleSource Fri 02-May-14 14:26:36

Are you day 7 Dwerf?

I had better get prepared then, thanks Dwerf.

Keep updating if you can.

Dwerf Fri 02-May-14 14:29:40

Day 5. All I had until yesterday was a touch of nausea, just enough for me to think 'urgh' but not enough to stop me doing anything.

But, I'm also a fortnight into the starting of other medications, so some of mine could be due to them. I went into the GPs for a gimpy arm and came out rattling. siiiigh

SoleSource Fri 02-May-14 15:42:43

Oh Dwerf yes you did say day 5, i was trying to work it out.

Just drove to the garden centre and that was a big mistake. I feel as if i am under the influenece of drugs now. A bit spaced out. Pupils are like pinheads.

Driving is affected. Shit, No more for a while, i cannot risk that,

My house is a tip and i just cannot bring myself to do it.

Think i'll just do a bit upstairs nd change DS;s shetts, dry his clothes for weekend. I'm staying home as not driving anywhere whilst like this.

Does anybody feel kless hungry?

I still forced down a biscuit though

Speech is a bit slurred too

JEEz the 100mg will crucify me.

chuffchuff Fri 02-May-14 16:21:38

Hi again everyone and hi dwerf - glad to hear this thread has been helping you - it's really helped me too smile

kazza what a pain in the arse re your pay - will it get sorted out soon? Hope so...

And to everyone getting the start up side effects, for me the first week was definitely the worst, then they really started to tail off more every day.

sole I avoided driving for a few days because I felt so wierd, I also felt travel sick so that was fun! That's gone off now though, my only yucky side effect is a dry mouth.

And um - er - I have also noticed another strange thing though, at risk of getting kicked off the thread - things are a bit strange in the bedroom department too blush. Not necessarily in a bad way, but different....

Anyway, moving on - I started this morning feeling quite stressed, then a friend turned up and asked if I fancied going into town for a look round the shops. That's something I avoid sometimes because I get a bit panicky, but I went and actually ended up having a nice day smile.

Dwerf Fri 02-May-14 16:30:46

Oh yes, the anxiety has definitely lessened, mainly because I'm walking around in a lovely drug induced fug.

Do they always bump you up to 100mg? My doctor never mentioned that.

chuffchuff Fri 02-May-14 16:35:45

I started on 25mg for a week then went onto 50mg. When I went back to my GP after 3 weeks he said I need to give it 6-8 weeks to get the full effect, and he is hopeful that 50mg will be enough for me. Maybe it depends what you're prescribed it for? For me it's GAD.

SoleSource Fri 02-May-14 16:36:32

I scored 20/27 in a depression test and GP said it was bad. I am seeing her again on the 19th May to up dose.

SoleSource Fri 02-May-14 16:38:07

She said not to expect to feel anything from this dose but i do a bit. Maybe she will review her decision on the 19th.

Dwerf Fri 02-May-14 16:41:43

I started on 50mg, taking it for anxiety, I don't have a diagnosis, but I've got a long history of depression, on and off since my teens.

SoleSource Fri 02-May-14 17:00:41

i'm confused tbh,

just have to wait and see...

chuffchuff Fri 02-May-14 17:28:07

I found this that hopefully explains it a bit?

sole maybe as you scored high on the depression scale your GP is thinking 50mg won't be enough. My GP said he always gives the lowest dose possible a good chance to work because it's good to find the lowest dose that works for you.

rustyB Fri 02-May-14 17:39:07

Hi, hope you Don't mind Me joining in.. I'm yet to start my setraline. been prescribed 50mg but I've had them for a couple of months. didn't want to start as I felt week and was scared of side effects. It's quite nice reading how you are all doing.

had this bought of anxiety and depression from some relationship problems with my partner from back in October. we are still together but just can't shake this feeling. I hate it. Dont know if AD's will help. feel very alone and scared tbh.

chuffchuff Fri 02-May-14 17:45:15

Hi rustysmile

It is hard taking the first one - but I was so sick of feeling crap that not taking them didn't really feel like much of an option. Have you been told to take a half dose for the first few days? I ignored my gps advice and took a full dose for two days, then felt so urgh that I went back down to 25mg for a week - it wasn't half as bad then. And in a funny sort if way, even though they made me feel a bit ill, at the same time they made me feel spaced out and dozey, which was quite nice after feeling anxious for months.

Maybe try to think that the sooner you start, the sooner you will see the light at the end of the tunnel?

rustyB Fri 02-May-14 17:59:10

I do think that the sooner I start the better. I worry about the effect it may have on my relationship and I've had depression before and powered through it with no meds. this did last a few years imo though. I hate feeling like this. I feel it's more anxiety though. I'm very confused but at the mo can't see any way out of feeling Like this.

why is it, external influences affect us like this. I see depression as a chemical imbalance so how has a relationship problem caused this. I want to snap out of it, as people say.

shopafrolic Fri 02-May-14 18:28:36

Rusty my DH and I have a much better relationship now that I'm taking the sertraline TBH - I actually like him now, mainly because I like myself a bit more I think! Don't be scared, we'll support you. I sat looking at the packet for days before I dared to try them. I started with 25mg for the first few days and then upped to 50mg. Best thing I ever did - the old me is back. So apart from my current upset tummy, it's definitely been a good experience for me.

Dwerf Fri 02-May-14 18:30:53

Rusty, because stress causes hormonal changes. I think I've been coping with so much for the last couple of years that my body is now constantly on high alert for the next stress, hence raised anxiety levels. I mean, it would be natural and ok to have a bit of a restless night before something important the next day, it's not normal to have it every night. It would be ok to feel stressed about going and doing something unusual, but not to feel stressed over something you've done a thousand times before. Which is where I am at. I think high levels of stress over the last three or four years have altered my body chemistry a bit, and now something has tripped. I'm hoping the meds will help temper my stupid brain's over-reactions.

rustyB Fri 02-May-14 18:41:11

I started talking therapy on Thursday. I don't know how it will help. I work in the emergency services in a very macho environment (im a fella) and I'm worried about the stigma too.

I will keep you informed. this post has given me a lot of hope.

kazzawazzawoo Fri 02-May-14 18:58:32

Rusty I had the pack of tablets next to my bed for over two months! I was too scared to take them.

I'm really scared they won't help me now as I'm not noticing much (if any) difference yet, I'm scared the doctor will say, ok that didn't work, there' s nothing we can do.

rustyB Fri 02-May-14 19:35:04

kazza, I thought they were working for you.

chuffchuff Fri 02-May-14 19:56:29

Kazza I know what you mean, I started feeling better so quickly that now I'm wondering if it was a bit of a placebo effect because now I'm back to having up and down days again. But when I read all the info on it, I know that's normal and I just have to give it more time.

Worst case scenario if in a few more weeks you don't feel any different will be that your GP puts you on a higher dose, or switches you to another AD. Just hang in there with me - we're all on the way to getting better smile

kazzawazzawoo Fri 02-May-14 20:07:39

Rusty, I think they have helped a bit, but I can only tell I felt better by the fact that I feel worse the next day. I don't know if that's them working or not.

I have been terribly stressed and anxious for various reasons for so long, many many years, I can't live like this any more. It affects my whole life and relationships. I hope things will improve.

kazzawazzawoo Fri 02-May-14 20:10:15

I really hope I don't have to change to another ad as I can't face side effects again. I've taken others in the past and had terrible headaches and felt like a zombie.

chuffchuff Fri 02-May-14 20:13:49

Kazza have you tried keeping a diary to keep a track of your good days and bad days? I've seen that suggested a lot - the idea is that we tend to only remember and focus on the times we feel bad and forget the good times in between, so by writing them down you can look back and see it (hopefully) is getting better than you thought.

Having said that, I haven't got round to doing it myself yet...

rustyB Fri 02-May-14 20:24:16

Feel crap now. so so geared up to starting them.

kazzawazzawoo Fri 02-May-14 20:45:17

Go for it Rusty, there' s nothing to lose smile

Chuffchuff, I do try to do the gratitude thing every night, I.e think of 3 good things that have happened each day.

kazzawazzawoo Fri 02-May-14 21:10:20

The diary is a good idea. I might try it.

This evening I'm feeling fairly rough, my stomach is upset and I'm anxious. I suffer with health anxiety and a phobia of vomiting, so an upset stomach makes me very anxious, but it's a vicious circle, because anxiety upsets my stomach sad sad I start to panic and it gets worse.

My only worry is that this morning I started the different brand of sertraline, so I hope that isn't why my stomach is upset. It's rumbling away. .

apermanentheadache Fri 02-May-14 22:05:00

I'm sure it's not the new brand. Have you had a friday night food binge? I have and my stomach is grumbling and rumbling away grin. Hope you feeling better soon Kazza....

chuffchuff Fri 02-May-14 22:12:51

Oh and forgot to tell you Kazza, I had a couple of drinks last weekend and felt fine, didn't affect me any more than it would have done before. So I feel safe to have one tonight now smile

I'm sure it's not he different brand (of meds) too - it would be pretty shocking if pharmacies were allowed to switch you to something that could make you feel ill. But I know it's easier said than done to not worry - if it were that simple I'd have no problems!

kazzawazzawoo Fri 02-May-14 22:13:26

No, I don't really do food binges. I had a curry dh made in the slow cooker but it wasn't very spicy. It's probably just anxiety sad

kazzawazzawoo Fri 02-May-14 22:36:04

That's good to know Chuffchuff, I'm not bothered at the moment, but I'm sure a time will come when I would like one.

Dwerf Fri 02-May-14 23:48:25

Oh, so you can drink a little bit on them? Good to know.

shopafrolic Sat 03-May-14 08:55:22

Just be careful with booze. I drank a couple of glasses of white wine no problem. Then went out with a girlfriend and had one glass of rosé and was sick as a dog sad

SoleSource Sat 03-May-14 13:19:53

Go for it rusty smile

Hi hope you're all O.K

Feeling better today. slightly zoned out, feeling motivated, i cleaned upstairs, had chat on phone wit friend and felt a bit slow/stoned.

If this keeps getting better i won't need 100 mg. I told GP tat sometimes i ask myself why I'm bloody here but that's circumstantial as I'm a carer for my forever disabled child. Can't get out and do things one would normally be able to do. Taken its toll over the years...

Chuffchuff Sat 03-May-14 13:35:58

Glad you're feeling ok today sole - I don't know your background story but caring for a disabled child must really take its toll over the years.

Hope everyone else is ok - re drinking, I only had a couple of small ones - I'm a bit of a lightweight anyway alcohol-wise so wouldn't want to risk anything more anyway. I did ask my GP about it and he said there are no contraindications with alcohol and Sertraline - but obviously to take it easy as drinking isn't always the best idea with anxiety or depression!

SoleSource Sat 03-May-14 13:39:34

Too much time to think and background was miserable in ways.

Onwards and upwards. I'm sure my pamphlet in setraline box states no alcohol.

Chuffchuff Sat 03-May-14 13:48:50

Yes mine did too, but my GP said there was no reason for the leaflet to say that!

SoleSource Sun 04-May-14 00:10:47

DAY 3

taken third dose, felt bit teary today but with good reason as usual actually, never without reason, just a lot of horrid, selfish, spiteful, uncaring people out there, did think to myself why the fuck am i here in this life, it is pointless.

kazzawazzawoo Sun 04-May-14 00:19:41

Sorry to hear that Sole.Hopefully things will improve soon. Would it help to talk about what happened today?

Dwerf Sun 04-May-14 00:27:12

I feel a bit teary too, but with the reason of my son back off to uni as I type.

Can I just ask what time of day you all take it? I take mine in the morning and feel stoned and unable to eat for a good six hours, and starving by late evening. I'm wondering whether to take it later, but can't risk being unable to get up in the morning.

kazzawazzawoo Sun 04-May-14 00:34:34

Dwerf I take mine in the morning too, because I didn't want to struggle in the morning. Once I got past the initial side effects it's been fine. I hope it improves for you soon smile

Dwerf Sun 04-May-14 00:41:50

To be honest I'm quite enjoying the feeling of being stoned, it's far better than the tense stressed out feeling I seem to have had for weeks. As for the appetite, I'm also enjoying the scales going down, little by little.

SoleSource Sun 04-May-14 00:47:19

Evening here as i sleep through side effects. Working so far and i feel ok in the mornings, no struggling yet. Might change, i cannot predict or definate.

Just feel unwanted. unloved, used, pitied, dreading school meeting next week as teacher knows I was feeling down and she likes to feel powerful over me soi goes she will hint or reveal i am down at the meeting in front of the respite staff too.

If she i will be so angry.

Fell out with on line chatter as he is upset i do not trust him when he claims he is not married.

Other on line chatter friend has moved away from me after 9 months.

No money.

Just nobody who cares, years of this, what's the point??????////

Beachy Head seems appealing right now.

SoleSource Sun 04-May-14 00:50:16

Via my weight issues, disabled child, caring role, no money, horrible family, no support, cutting contact with family, being abandoned by ex partners, friends dumping me, just years of hurt, i ran out of strentgh.

I really do not think most women could just exist with nobody and nothing as i do.

There seems no way out,

I guess through social ancxiety/worry i have narrowed my life right down, so depend on little uncertain things to go right whren they never do

I need to get something rock solid, focus on that and other stuff should fall into place.

Dwerf Sun 04-May-14 01:07:04

Online chatters frequently just bugger off.

shopafrolic Sun 04-May-14 10:07:49

SoleSource I hope you are feeling better this morning. It sounds like you could use some support? Samaritans have helped me in the past.08457 909090
Or perhaps go back to your GP? Please don't give up.......

Dwerf Sun 04-May-14 10:53:32

Hope you're feeling a little brighter this morning Sole, they don't work straight away. You're gonna have a few shite days before the drugs kick in. If you can say to yourself 'today I feel like shite because my brain chemistry is out of whack but tomorrow its going to be a little less out of whack and the day after even less so.'

Virtually holding yoour hand Sole xx

kazzawazzawoo Sun 04-May-14 11:31:57

Sorry, had to go to bed last night, missed the messages. Hope you feel a bit better this morning and I hope the sertraline has an effect soon.

Chuffchuff Sun 04-May-14 12:03:37

sole so sorry you're feeling so crappy. How are you today? Hang in there, it is so, so early days with the meds, you have taken a big positive step by starting on the road to recovery, try and focus on that smile.

We're all thinking of you - you're not alone.

And honestly, I wouldn't waste your precious energy worrying about soMe fuckwit man on a chat site - I have friends who have been told all sorts of bull on those, it just seems to be the form with that kind of thing and you have to be pretty thick skinned to not let it get to you - I would steer well clear TBH...

SoleSource Sun 04-May-14 16:28:59

Thanks x

I feel the medication is working and as I haven't been out today or talked to anybody,nobody has upset me soi feel better for that. When ever I do feel anxious about some thought in my head i immediately relax,must be the setraline...

I do feel better today.
I am overweight, my house needs decorating, I need to get some kind of work paid or unpaid.

I need to feel stronger, I hope it comes..

I think i am better off alone untill I sort my head and emotions out.

SoleSource Sun 04-May-14 16:31:04

day 4

Just think up to eight weeks time, we could feel so much better,human and normalish again, our old selves or even better.

SoleSource Sun 04-May-14 16:35:25

Appetite very much reduced. I had to force mysell to eat chicken, cottage cheese and a cup of tea.

Does anybody else feel a bit spaced out? I love it grin I manage to get my Son up, washed,fed,changed etc then i sit and feel chilled for a while and realise I had forgotten about me for a bit grin

I wish i had taken these tabs years ago.

I am very large,do you think the setraline is diluted within my body more than it would for a lighter woman?

SoleSource Sun 04-May-14 16:37:18

Just read my posts of last night back,boy i do feel bad sometimes don't I?Who is she? grin She needs to fuck off.

kazzawazzawoo Sun 04-May-14 16:51:18

Sole, I wish sertraline stopped me eating. I'm too good at comfort eating! blush

Yes, I hope we do all feel much better in 8 weeks.

I'm glad you're feeling more positive today smile

Chuffchuff Sun 04-May-14 16:51:58

That's the spirit grin

Glad you're feeling a bit brighter. I definitely feel very chilled today, really relaxed and no racing thoughts - not like me at all; for months ive been a big jangling bag of nerves. I could quite easily have a little doze right now, and the fact that I have 3 dc wittering on and arguing amongst themselves isn't stressing me out at all.

Today is definitely my best day so far - just hope if carries on that way. I will have been taking them five weeks next Tuesday, so I'm only a few weeks on from where you are.

Re weight diluting the meds, I'm no expert but I wouldn't have thought it would make much difference - surely everyone's liver processes chemicals the same way, the same for our brains, whatever we weigh? Could be completely wrong though...

Chuffchuff Sun 04-May-14 16:56:14

Hi kazza - I was doing lots of googling yesterday and in reviews of Sertraline quite a few people said they were up and down when they started, then by about week four they felt like they were more anxious or depressed again. But then into weeks five or six they felt it lifting again and from then on their moods really levelled out.
I definitely felt worse last week; really stressed and on edge, but over the last day or two I really am feeling better, so I'm hoping I'm following that pattern too....

kazzawazzawoo Sun 04-May-14 17:02:11

Interesting Chuffchuff. I had quite a bad time end of the week, feel a bit better today and yesterday, maybe things are on the up.

I've managed at work ok, although I still get quite paranoid about what people are thinking about me sad

SoleSource Sun 04-May-14 17:11:58

Are each of your issues (for want of a better word) caused by emotional neglect/abuse when you were a child? Mine definatly is.

SoleSource Sun 04-May-14 17:14:47

Thanks Chuff smile

We have a long way to go, i need this place to post my true thoughts and feelings.

Feeling stronger for this place and people posting on it x

Chuffchuff Sun 04-May-14 17:32:20

sole, no I had a fairly normal, happy childhood. I've always been a worrier though. Then in my late teens I went through a horrible experience at the hands of a particularly twisted nasty bastard - won't go into details... He was prosecuted, I was given counselling & thought I was fine, apart from the odd wobble. But then a while ago I found out he had died. I all of a sudden started having nightmares and flashbacks and that lead onto panic attacks that would go on and off for days sad. Basically I ended up in a bit of a state.

But hopefully I'm seeing the light at the end of the tunnel now smile

kazzawazzawoo Sun 04-May-14 18:22:44

Sole, I've also always been a worrier.However, most my problems stem I think from my abusive first marriage and our very messy divorce. Recently a long period of unemployment for dh and debt from previous unemployment has caused me a lot of stress and worry.

kazzawazzawoo Sun 04-May-14 18:24:03

Sorry to hear of your problems, Sole and Chuffchuff. brew brew

SoleSource Sun 04-May-14 19:05:05

I wrote a huge post and lost it grrr

Thanks kazza

i had stress and worry too about son,respite,schoolteachers, nosey social worker, bastard vile neighbours, about past, cutting contact with family and missing them - what for i do not know, my weight causes me a lot of angst, abuse towards myself internally, from others and embarrassment in public.

Last ex stole my car, frightened me, lied about me, got me involved in things, used me, laughed at me, didn't take me seriously, sad i was ugly, too fat, the cunt.

That man took me down to the lowest level i ever felt and i haven't recovered since 2008. I do not feel safe in this house as he was here too, not seen him fr few years but need to move out, fresh start, very difficult as housing association.

\The stress and worry I have had has ruined my life,

cunts cunts cunts die cunts from past

Chuffchuff Sun 04-May-14 19:11:43

Sole I know wha you mean, but careful what you wish for - I always imagined if my abuser died id be throwing a party, but in reality it seems to have brought up a whole heap of crap for me sad

I am so angry with myself for letting that bastard win again, if that makes any sense. I thought I had move on years ago, but I suppose your mind can do funny things.

But I am sure I'm starting to feel better, so onwards and upwards...

Chuffchuff Sun 04-May-14 19:12:19

And thanks too Kazza smile

SoleSource Sun 04-May-14 21:43:22

Social anxiety forme caued by a string of one shit event after another. Disappointments, loneliness.

I am sitting here in my house all of this weekend and my nature now tries to feel anxious but something is blocking it, i feel that this can only get better, i hope and pray.

I deserve this to go.

My pupils are like pinheads can people tell I'm on meds from that?

so pleased you too are starting to feel better grin

onwards and upwards grin

Chuffchuff Sun 04-May-14 22:03:22

sole you've reminded me, my pupils were really dilated for the first few days on the meds. I did look a bit wierd, but that stopped after about three or four days - very strange though!

rustyB Sun 04-May-14 22:22:26

Can I ask, what does your anxiety feel like? I seem to get a tingerly tightness in my muscles. all down the inside of my legs. A feeling in me of dread and fear but I have no idea from want. This is a constant almost 24/7.

I just wanna scream for help. It's gets me very emotional sometimes, like a release.

kazzawazzawoo Sun 04-May-14 22:41:31

Rusty, when I'm really anxious it feels like my mind is racing, thoughts whirring round and round, faster and faster, and I can't stop them.

Chuffchuff Sun 04-May-14 23:04:50

I get that too kazza. Also I get a feeling of dread, like something awful is about to happen and I'm on high alert waiting for it, but I don't know what the something is.

For the last few months I was waking up with my stomach churning, like really bad butterflies - and that would carry on all day, every day.

Thankfully all of the above seems to have pretty much gone at the moment...

Stuffragette Sun 04-May-14 23:21:14

I am one week in now. Started on 100 mg today as dr wants to ramp it up quite quickly. Took it this morning and I feel hideous. Anxious, stressed that I won't be able to cope. I have so much going on this week I can't afford to feel shit. I wish I didn't have this condition. I just want a bit of peace, a break from my head. This is shit.

Hope you are all getting on ok.

kazzawazzawoo Sun 04-May-14 23:31:07

Sorry to hear that Stuff, but that feeling will pass when your body gets used to the increased dose.

Yes Chuffchuff, that feeling of dread, it's awful. Like something awful is going to happen.

I've got to the point where I don't answer the phone, don't want to speak to anyone, just want to sleep or at least stay in bed.

Dwerf Sun 04-May-14 23:37:57

Rusty, I get nervous, as if I'm under threat. I'm constantly on edge, irritable yet weepy. Can't stand crowds, or people touching me. Feeling all the time on high alert. It's horrible.

rustyB Sun 04-May-14 23:43:36

I really don't understand how I feel. It's all tension in and around my grown. all down my legs. I don't feel like I'm worrying but the feeling itself make me worry. it zaps my confidence so much. This all started with some relationship problems, like a switch was flicked in me, but I can't turn it off.

SoleSource Mon 05-May-14 01:32:56

My DS's bed, clothes, body is clean. He is well fed and warm and loved.

The rest of the house is a shit tip

WTF is that about?

Why can't i tidy my house up like a normal person?

Is it admitting that i might have some control and a clean house means a clearer mind?

What the fuck am i rebelling against?

It is disgusting in here and i need to clean up

I am sick of not doing my job fucking sick of it

Not feeling jittery gere or condtant feeling of dread feeling calmer.

SoleSource Mon 05-May-14 14:49:52

How we all doing today?

Day 5

Well today I feel better, have blocked a friend's number as i really cannot be arsed with her problems any more.

I need to be alone and focus on me. Lose weight, do some voluntary work and moan on here to you guys grin

I have bought Floradix from Holland and Barrett. It is liquid iron and vitamin formula, contains herbal extracts and fruit juice concentrates.

Iron, vitamin B2, B6, B12 and C contribute to the reduction of tiredness and fatigue.

Two 10 ml shots twice per day.

250 ml bottle for around eight pounds.

I have been thinking about trying vitamin D.

kazzawazzawoo Mon 05-May-14 15:08:44

Hi Sole smile Glad you're feeling better today.

We're having a lazy day.

I too am staying away from a friend for now, because she always drags me down and I can't cope with it at the moment.

I'd like to sort my life too, I'm waiting for dh to start work in a week, then I'll have some time to myself on my days off.

SoleSource Mon 05-May-14 15:18:47

Hey kazza smile

do you feel motivated to do housework etc? i just do not, A huge mountain to climb and just needs doing again and i am sick of it.

i have a big problem with keeping a routine.

sad

feeling like a big fat failure, cannot even tidy up.

SoleSource Mon 05-May-14 15:20:09

Oh and i have lost 8lb in weight since I started.

Chuffchuff Mon 05-May-14 15:36:03

Hi kazza and sole smile

I think I have the opposite problem to you sole my anxiety has made me a bit OCD about cleanliness - I have to have everywhere tidy & clean or I can't sit still blush. But am getting a little bit better on that front I think - one of the DC left a load of board games spread all over th floor last night and I couldnt be arsed to pick them up so I left them there! Might sound a bit sad but that's a big thing for me...

Having a lazy day here too - and I still feel nice and calm and relaxed today, so just hope that continues.

SoleSource Mon 05-May-14 16:05:19

My none clean house is making me feel anxious a bit. sad I hate this lazy ass aspect of myself. It is disgusting.

kazzawazzawoo Mon 05-May-14 16:18:34

No Sole, it's daunting, I've let it go for so long due to working and dh always saying, oh, sit down and watch tv with me instead, and obviously he's only done the bare minimum whilst at home (for over TEN months!) that now it's quite scary. But I AM looking forward to getting stuck in once he's gone back to work, because I find it quite cathartic, seeing it sparkling clean after working hard, so in a week and a half (covering for a colleague for a bit, but next day off after dh back at work will be thursday after next) I will make a start.

SoleSource Tue 06-May-14 13:42:13

Day 6

I hate the mess kazza Never get visitors here, DS doesn't know so i get away with being lazy for so many years it has become a bad habit.

Feeling relaxed, so may things that would have a negative effect on me that i have experienced or seen has not been able to penetrate this invisible shield of protection that the Setraline provides.

Am i brave enough to write here of all those things?

They will seem pathetic to most but do have a lot of time on my hands to think and writing them down would help me when i look back to realise just how far i have come.

These tablets could change my life grin for the better.

Caanot be arsed to change i to I.

kazzawazzawoo Tue 06-May-14 17:24:28

Sole, I'm so glad the tablets are working smile. That is really great news.

Go ahead and post here, I think the things that worry us are very individual, but one thing I've learnt from being depressed and anxious is not to judge other people - I suffer with emetaphobia (phobia of vomiting) and people keep saying to me, yes, I don't like that either - well, it's not about "not liking" it, it sends me into such a panic, I curl up in a ball and cry, I have panic attacks, at just the slightest hint that a sickness bug is going round school etc. It's difficult to understand what it feels like if you haven't experienced it, so I try not to judge anyone anymore.

If writing it all down helps, go ahead, I say. I hope others agree? Or you could start your own thread, as a sort of diary, if you like?

SoleSource Tue 06-May-14 20:21:01

OK thank you kazza

I will stay here if others are OK with it, until somebody objects.

Road rage twats giving me dirty looks, friend not phoned me for days after awkward meeting on Saturday but i won't phone her again she can cunt off.

These things really play on my mind usually and i think that i am cursed and am meant to be so miserable and down until i i
kill myself. But inside know i am not miserable usually happy, hard to explain. I feel as if something is out to get me all the time, well rarely in the last few days.

I'll think of more.

Stuffragette Tue 06-May-14 20:55:27

SoleSource, I don't know about you but when my house is messy, my mind feels messy. I am not a neat obsessive or anything, but like a little bit of order smile.

I am now on day 7. Today the crapness has ramped itself up a bit. Feeling completely manic, racing thoughts, can't sit still. This drug better be worth it.

Let's all keep plodding on. Its got to make us all feel better soon, surely?

SoleSource Tue 06-May-14 21:07:11

Yes, my mind is messy that is why I cannot tidy, it is a betrayal of my mind sad

SoleSource Wed 07-May-14 00:47:32

I also cannot recall the last time i had a visitor to my house. That makes me so sad. I cannot do a lot with my DS as he is severely disabled. Other peoples children do not understand and are frightened of him or their parents are ignorant too.

Not spoken to a soul today again.

SoleSource Wed 07-May-14 08:27:00

Have school review meeting today at 2 pm for DS special needs statement. Not really looking forward to it.

SoleSource Wed 07-May-14 08:39:25

Day 7

Looking forward to having something to do today, going to prepare my clothes, might have my hair blow dried too. Just shows I need something to do with my time and this reduced anxiety might allow it!

Will go and visit college today to see if I can enroll for a course.

Will visit voluntary bureau this week to.

SoleSource Wed 07-May-14 08:40:48

Feeling dehydrated, dry mouth from day one. Bit of a headache right in the middle of my brain last night hmm

Dwerf Wed 07-May-14 09:55:18

I feel really odd today, like lead. I was the same yesterday but presumed that 3 hours sleep was the cause, but no, slept last night from midnight until 7 and today just the same. It's like the stoned feeling but heavier. I am fit for nothing at the moment, physically.

shopafrolic Wed 07-May-14 12:44:23

SoleSource good luck at the meeting today. Are there no local groups for parents of severely disabled children where you could meet people in a similar position?
Hope everyone is starting to feel better. I have had to come off the tablets completely to allow my gut to heal. Day 5 with no tablets for me! sad Not sure what the next steps will be.

kazzawazzawoo Wed 07-May-14 19:38:14

Sole, how did your meeting go?

I too have a dry mouth, especially at night.

We have very few friends and they are all too busy, so we never get visitors either. It's a relief in a way, no need to tidy, but very lonely.

I've had a stinking headache all day, not sure if it's due to the ADs or the mini pill that I changed to recently or just because I didn't sleep well last night.

Chuffchuff Wed 07-May-14 20:22:06

Hi all smile

I still have a dry mouth all the time too - it's one side effect that doesn't seem to be budging.

shopafrolic do you feel ok not taking the ADs?

sole hope everything went ok today.

kazza do you think you're feeling any consistent kind of improvement on the meds yet? We're five weeks in now aren't we? I have days when I feel really relaxed & good; I had three or four days like that in a row - then yesterday and today I've had moments of feeling a bit wobbly again - although not anything like as bad as it used to be. I'm just hoping these ups and downs will level out a bit soon...

SoleSource Wed 07-May-14 20:23:19

Dwerf I feel unmotivated, a bit heavy, still to do housework. How are you now?

shop and kazza smile Special educational needs review meeting was OK, I told the duty SW at the meeting that I have started anti depressants and she advised me to go back to my GP and ask for a letter to be presented at panel. I shall do this in order to apply for more respite.

I feel numb enough to go and make enquiries about carer's support groups grin

I didn't have time to go to the college, I shall do that tomorrow.

shop I really feel for you sad hang in there and use us for support,keep us updated. x

Has your headache gone kazza ? I know it sucks doesn't it, the no visitor thing sad

SoleSource Wed 07-May-14 20:24:33

Chuff Are the wobbly days due to life experiences or hormones?

shopafrolic Wed 07-May-14 20:26:42

Sole that sounds positive? I know at my GP surgery there is a poster on the board about carer support groups. I wonder if you google your DS' condition are there any charities or support groups showing? Not my area of knowledge at all but it might be nice to talk to people who have the same experiences as you and you can support each other?
On the housework and lack of motivation thing, that got lots better for me about a month in, and then I went a bit cleaning mad! grin

shopafrolic Wed 07-May-14 20:29:08

Chuff I feel okay in the early part of the day, but start to struggle from 4pm ish onwards. By the time DH gets home I'm a bit panicky and struggling with my 3yo DS. I'm also not sleeping quite as well. I'd like to get back on a low dose of something ASAP TBH as they were definitely helping my mental state. Hope you don't mind me being here while I'm temporarily off them?

kazzawazzawoo Wed 07-May-14 20:29:15

Hi Chuff smile Yes, yesterday I felt quite a bit better, but it's still very up and down. I spend most nights hating my dh though and planning what life will be like when I leave him sad I don't know if it's real or the depression talking or maybe a side effect of the hormonal contraceptives I'm taking?? Can't stop taking them at the moment.

Today I'm feel quite anxious again, because of the awful headache I've had most of the day.

I'm still really scared this won't be the solution and I'll have to live with depression and anxiety for the rest of my life. I can't remember what it's like not to feel like this and I just want to be normal!

Chuffchuff Wed 07-May-14 20:40:41

It's not anything going on now making me feel bad/anxious - other than going back to work yesterday but my jobs ok really! can't say it causes me stress. I do have a good life now, nothing to complain about really, and that's why I struggle to understand why I have got into the state I'm in/was in before the ADs...

I went through some bad experiences years ago and for a long time had thought I had left it all behind me - on paper there is no reason I should be struggling now confused so I do feel very frustrated with myself, I just want to enjoy life.

shop of course you should stay [ smile]

shopafrolic Wed 07-May-14 20:47:02

I really related to this article today

SoleSource Thu 08-May-14 00:15:51

Wow so much to hurt me in the last few days, but it hasn't beenable to penetrate. How fabulous is that?

So i am stronger and lessweak. Others will see I do not hurt, hmm

I am less sensitive.

SoleSource Thu 08-May-14 09:54:57

Day 8

I feel totally different today, I have lost that stoned/invincible feeling. I feel alive and awake today although I feel physically tired because I went to bed late.

I wonder if hormones affect seretonin

Hmmm feeling positive whatever it is.

shopafrolic Thu 08-May-14 10:06:16

Nice one Sole that's really positive!

kazzawazzawoo Thu 08-May-14 10:54:38

Sole, that's great news.Glad you're feeling good. smile

Not feeling too clever today sad My headache has faded, but I have an upset stomach and feel generally off. Always feel really anxious about tummy upsets sad due to health anxiety.

Going to spend the day on the sofa reading.

Chuffchuff Thu 08-May-14 11:47:10

Glad you're having a good day sole

Sorry to hear you're not so good kazza - a day on the sofa sounds just the ticket smile

Dwerf Thu 08-May-14 17:19:01

I seem to be coming through the stoned feeling also. Yesterday I felt terrible but today not so bad. And I slept better last night, which is definitely a turn for the better. I don't do well on four hours a night. Still a bit jaw-clampy and headachey, but nothing i can't cope with (and I reckon the first is probably causing the second)

SoleSource Thu 08-May-14 17:25:57

How was your day so far everyone?

Yes, stoned feeling definitely gone so far here but slight anxiety again.

Feeling motivated, might be the weather as well as meds. Alight excited for the future feeling in my tummy but still not motivated enough to get off my arse. I am lazy.

Thrown some rubbish out and tidied front garden today.

Went to bed at 10am and awoke at 3pm. hmm

Please get better, not worse sad

SoleSource Thu 08-May-14 17:51:25

I just hope this feeling lasts of not dwelling on the past and its mistakes. people i miss from the past, upsetting events, self blame, socialanxiety about everything, fear has almost gone, confidence growing etc

Mad what these tablets have done in 8 days.

If GP does up dose to 100 mg I am dreading the side effects from a bigger dose. Seeing her next Wednesday.

kazzawazzawoo Thu 08-May-14 18:02:37

Maybe the doctorwill keep you on the low dose for now, as you are noticing a difference.

I feel awful today, headache, upset tummy, very tired, I think it must be a virus of some sort. I couldn't even remember whether I took my tablet this morning, but I think I did blush

Feeling very anxious, as I have to be ok for work tomorrow as my colleague is off till next Thursday sad So I have to be fit to do my job AND hers.

shopafrolic Thu 08-May-14 21:01:42

Kazza if your tablet packets don't have days of the week printed on them then I found it helpful to write the day I started each strip on there in marker pen. That way you can tell if you miss a dose.

SoleSource Thu 08-May-14 21:57:14

I feel normalish gain

Did read that quick results can be a bad sign as means drug will wear off quickly. hmm

kazza keep talking x

kazzawazzawoo Thu 08-May-14 22:06:40

Good idea Shop, thanks.

Sole, when you say you feel normal y do you mean as depressed as before? I hope not. It could be part of the ups and downs mentioned before.

I'm trying to stay calm and just hope I sleep tonight. I'm drinking lots of chamomile tea to settle my stomach and had a probiotic capsule for the good gut flora.

I suffer with a phobia of vomiting and also health anxiety, so go to pieces when feeling like this.

Chuffchuff Thu 08-May-14 23:14:16

Hope you manage to have a good nights sleep kazza - sorry to hear you feel rough. It does sound like a virus rather than the ADs if that's any consolation.

SoleSource Fri 09-May-14 00:10:02

kazza no i feel human again, no zombie feeling, emotions stable smile

Spark of life in the pit of my stomach, motivated a bit more

Not felt this for years smile

Chuffchuff Fri 09-May-14 09:09:37

That's really good sole - amazing really that they're working so quickly for you.

I do think I'm feeling calmer generally but am still having some ups and downs...

SoleSource Fri 09-May-14 09:16:59

Might depend on anxiety level in the first place, some are worse than others.

shopafrolic Fri 09-May-14 09:21:49

Good news Sole really happy to hear that! smile

SoleSource Fri 09-May-14 09:33:01

Well i just document day to day and i am being honest. Sorry not working out for you Chuff sad
My anxiety is via being judged by others.

People like to highlight what they feel is wrong about me because what is good about me highlights their own failures.

SoleSource Fri 09-May-14 09:55:11

I guess CBT might help, I need to self refer. I feel quite good. smile

SoleSource Fri 09-May-14 17:11:53

Sunshine helps lift my mood, i really need to buy a S.A.D lamp.

Small appetite today, feeling OK. Gosh amazing how anxious I used to feel, that feeling of dread and everything will go wrong, blaming myself for every tiny mishap.

That negative commentary in my head has almost been switched off. Can only get better, pleaeeeease!!!!!

Well that has almost fucked off and can stay fucked off.

kazzawazzawoo Fri 09-May-14 18:27:06

Sole, I'm so pleased you're feeling better smile Long may it lastsmile

Well, I made it into work today. Feel a bit better than yesterday and got through the day. Just a half day tomorrow then the afternoon and Sunday off-hooray!

SoleSource Sat 10-May-14 12:33:13

Day 10

Feeling OK, positive as anxiety is much better to control.

Still living like a slob in here sad

SoleSource Sat 10-May-14 19:49:36

Excellent day. Feeling like the 'old me' has come back. Got front room tidied up. Looking forward to relaxing tonight.

kazzawazzawoo Sat 10-May-14 20:12:03

Hi everyone smile

Feeling ok today, slept well last night and much happier smile I worked this morning, had a lazy afternoon watching old episodes of Friends.

Chuffchuff Sat 10-May-14 20:50:21

Hi all - glad everyone's feeling ok smile

I'm feeling ok too - had a night out last night and forgot to feel stressed out about it grin

Now watching Eurovision and having a vodka & tonic.

SoleSource Sun 11-May-14 01:33:10

I wonder if that Austrian singer takes Setraline? hmm

Chuffchuff Sun 11-May-14 10:43:03

OMG is a side effect extreme facial hair? shock

SoleSource Sun 11-May-14 13:18:53

Just my sense of humour Chuff.

Day 11

feeling good, motivated, calm and looking forward.

SoleSource Sun 11-May-14 13:48:58

Most of the fears, dreads that polluted my mind seem to be coming to mind less frequently, i can see how self harming they were and that is daft.

I can concentrate better and a proper order to my day is emerging.

SoleSource Sun 11-May-14 13:49:15

Hope it lasts!!! hmm

Chuffchuff Sun 11-May-14 16:56:40

Me too smile

Feeling nice and relaxed today.

kazzawazzawoo Sun 11-May-14 19:12:13

I hope it lasts too Sole smile

Not very relaxed here today. Dh starts work tomorrow after being unemployed for over ten months, so lots of preparation to do, lots of shirts to wash and iron, lunches to pre-prepare. Also dinner for tomorrow evening needs preparing so I can just chuck it in the slow cooker tomorrow morning. Also been shopping at Aldi.

kazzawazzawoo Sun 11-May-14 22:12:48

Just realized that sounds quite negative, but I am feeling positive about his new start and glad we've been getting things ready. I'm a bit worried because dd had a headache and tummyache this evening, sounds like a migraine with flashy lights, I think I need to take her to see the gp, as it's happened a few times recently. Worried she'll need to stay home tomorrow, as I need to be at work, my colleague is off and I have a deadline to meet and stuff to prepare that no one else can do. Fingers crossed.

Chuffchuff Mon 12-May-14 09:18:01

Hope everything goes ok today Kazza

SoleSource Mon 12-May-14 14:36:11

Hope everything goes well for you too kazza

Feeling a bit negative today, feels like the medication has worn off a bit. Very tired yesterday but that could be the air pressure and lack of daylight.

Also i take the tablet at midnight, became distracted and took the tablet at 2.30 am instead. I wonder if that effected my mood today.

GP appointment on Wednesday, I wonder if she'll up my dose. Hmmm.

Not much motivation, i think I will eat some protien, might be that,iron levels and vit D.

Not talked to anybody in person for days properly, just on line. Not good for me either.

Sigh...need a job.

Chuffchuff Mon 12-May-14 14:44:13

Sole try not to get discouraged - I have had lots of ups and downs since starting on the meds (I'm five and a bit weeks in).

I just keep trying to remind myself that I'm noticing the 'down' days because I'm having 'up' days in between - which I hardly ever had before starting, so that's still positive.

And that my GP said I should give them a good two months to see how I feel on them, because it is normal to have ups and downs before (hopefully) levelling out to something that feels 'normal'.

Just need to follow my own advice now smile

SoleSource Mon 12-May-14 15:08:41

Thank you Chuff just focusing on the negative points in my life and the past negative experiences. sad

Chuffchuff Mon 12-May-14 15:58:32

Yes I'm good at that too sad

SoleSource Mon 12-May-14 17:51:30

Crap isn't it what goes on in the mind sad

Chuffchuff Mon 12-May-14 20:27:08

Certainly is brew cake

kazzawazzawoo Mon 12-May-14 20:37:21

Sorry to hear that Sole. Hope things improve. I too have had ups and downs since starting.

Today went well thanks smile. Managed to get everyone out of the house on time, dd was feeling better luckily. I even managed to get home briefly at lunchtime to walk the dog. And I managed to complete the work I needed to do, so I'm pleased about that. Hopefully tomorrow will be a bit quieter, but I doubt it!

SoleSource Mon 12-May-14 20:54:29

Great kazza

Put a wash on, went shopping, drove miles to find something.

Done bugger all else aside from cook DS's tea.

Have to try and do better tomorrow!

SoleSource Tue 13-May-14 18:13:11

Lethargic, unmotivated, no energy, just sitting here all day sad

chuffchuff Tue 13-May-14 18:33:20

Sorry to hear that sole sad

I'm still having lots of ups and down sad you know - I felt a bit crap yesterday but fine today, so there's every chance you'll have a better day tomorrow too...

chuffchuff Tue 13-May-14 18:34:17

Ha ha 'sad you know'... I meant 'as you know'...

Quite apt really grin

SoleSource Tue 13-May-14 19:02:43

Well sun is out hmm i moved from the sofa, feeling better smile

kazzawazzawoo Wed 14-May-14 08:54:53

Beautiful sunny day today, feeling a bit more upbeat and looking forward to my day off tomorrow smile

Hope everyone's well?

chuffchuff Wed 14-May-14 09:58:20

That's good smile - I always feel better when the sun comes out. Good day here today too. We're six weeks in now aren't we Kazza?

Elsieparoubek Wed 14-May-14 14:13:48

Hello all

Just wanted some advice about sertraline -
I've been taking 10mg per day for 5 days now. I know this is a tiny dose but as I'm pregnant and never taken any ADs before I wanted to be super careful.
I think I've had some mild side effects - whirring thoughts,sleeplessness & tiredness and stomach ache but nothing too bad.

I want to know, has anyone here ever found a dose smaller than 50mg to be effective? I'm planning to titrate up to 25mg but don't want to go higher as I'm really worried about effect on the baby.

Thanks x

chuffchuff Wed 14-May-14 16:09:29

Hi elsie smile

Sorry I can't speak from experience - I started on 25mg for a week then went up to 50, which I'm still on, but from what I've read it seems even that is a low dose. But anyway, I know I have read posts from other pg or post natal (breast feeding) women who are taking the same dose as me - so I would assume their GP wouldn't have prescribed it if it wasn't safe?

And I've also read posts from people who have stuck at 25 mg and have found that the be effective. I suppose if you want to try and keep to a tiny dose and you feel you are coping ok at the moment, you just need to give it time to see if it works for you (ie at least six weeks). Depends if you don't mind the wait smile

What did your GP say?

SoleSource Wed 14-May-14 16:22:16

Hi elsie, chuff and kazza

Lovely sunny day here too, feel brighter within myself. GP appt today, first does of 100 mg tonight at midnight, sleep through side affects.

Feel better as GP is lovely and encouraging.

Day 14 Day one of 100mg.

GP said I might go up to 150 mg hmm

Whatever helps I will take it.

SoleSource Wed 14-May-14 16:23:13

My GP also said she thinks people should start to feel better within/up to two weeks.

I do a bit.

SoleSource Wed 14-May-14 16:31:42

Does anybody take vitamins?

I'm going to take vitamin D, I will ask pharmacist for advice.

www.nhs.uk/Conditions/vitamins-minerals/Pages/Vitamin-D.aspx

healthyeating.sfgate.com/can-vitamin-d-improve-mood-4662.html

SoleSource Wed 14-May-14 16:32:03

The sunshine vitamin, vit D.

chuffchuff Wed 14-May-14 16:36:55

Glad you're feeling ok sole.

Sorry to be nosey but why has your GP increased your dose? Was that the plan from the start or was it because he thinks it's not doing the job as it is?

chuffchuff Wed 14-May-14 16:38:07

Oh and ps I've tried lots of different vitamin combos - multivitamins, big doses of vitamin c, magnesium etc. nothing seemed to work for me - but sunshine definitely helps....

SoleSource Wed 14-May-14 16:40:04

Well my circumstances cause me to be depressed. I am Carer of a severely disabled child and i can't change it. Nobody to chat to most days, neighbour from hell for 8 years caused me this anxiety and I'm recovering from it. Need extra boost to get off my fat arse and change my life.

chuffchuff Wed 14-May-14 17:04:08

sad

kazzawazzawoo Wed 14-May-14 19:37:23

I started taking vitamin d quite recently, after reading about it on mn. I also take evening primrose oil for Pmt, magnesium for cramps, probiotics for ibs.

This summer I'm going to try and get more sun, spending time in the garden when possible.

Feeling extremely stressed and anxious today, it was an extremely busy day .Luckily I've got the day off tomorrow, but I'll be cleaning all day sad

Yes Chuffchuff I think we are 6 weeks in now.

Dwerf Wed 14-May-14 19:40:36

I'm two weeks (or so?) in and I definitely feel better. Stoned feeling has gone but the mellowness remains. Give me a hell yeah.

littleowl14 Wed 14-May-14 20:57:12

hi all, not read the whole thread but want to encourage you to stick with it - I felt a lot better after 6 weeks smile

but the vit d thing is important - I've been struggling all winter with brain fog and aches; I'd be more down If it weren't for the sert - and I'm v vit d deficient, and probably been for a while. more so recently due to bf. I was blaming thyroid (am.on thyroxine) but that's been v good - I now know it's the vit d.

after research inc the mn thread on deficiency and guidelines I'm going to take 25ug a day (1000iu) and you can take an additional 400iu in a multivit. (its hard to overdose according to main expert)

I watched a lecture on YouTube by Dr Horick, a leading expert, and it really rang true.

chuffchuff Thu 15-May-14 09:52:16

Hi littleowl. That's interesting - I was thinking I didn't want to take any other 'medicine' for a while because I wanted to give the sertraline a good test on its own, if that makes sense? But now I'm wondering if I should give vitamin D a go too.

I'm now on week 6 of sertraline and although I am definitely better than I was (taking it for anxiety), I still have up and down days and don't feel completely back to my old self yet. Did you feel completely back to 'normal' by six weeks, or was that just when you started to notice you were feeling the effects?

Elsieparoubek Thu 15-May-14 11:30:01

Thanks chuffchuff.

I'm not feeling OK at the moment but not sure I would feel better if I upped the dose as then I'd have the anxiety / guilt about possible effect on baby iyswim... I saw a psychiatrist and she said there were risks but outweighed sometimes by the need to be on it (which makes me feel terribly selfish)

I'm also not sure whether I actually have depression or just extreme stress and sadness about my circumstances.
Still I'm going to give it a go and work up to 25mg over the next few weeks.

Hope you start to feel better soon x

kazzawazzawoo Thu 15-May-14 12:25:56

Chuffchuff that sounds like how I feel, I think I possibly feel less anxious, but not great. I don't know if it could be better than this. But I have been really stressed at work.

SoleSource Thu 15-May-14 14:24:46

Took 100 mg last night. Anxiety decreased. Went out to a few places, sat in car park of retail centre and almost drove away. No, I thought, I will feel better if I go to the shop. I'm very overweight and my anxiety is weight related, people stare, make comments. Feel better for going, wore baggy linen black trousers so I look better than my leggings and arse covering top and cardi.

Funny isn't it how my thoughts about the causes are becoming clearer.

My weight is stress related, I overeat when I am unhappy.

Going to have to lose just over 14 stones, some way, some how, I bet the anxiety disappears to virtually nothing.

chuffchuff Thu 15-May-14 16:29:34

It's really good that you went in and didn't just drive away smile

I'm starting to wonder if I should be on a higher dose - but I'm going to give it a couple more weeks before deciding to go back to GP, then I will have given it a good couple of months. I don't know if the doses are different for anxiety / depression anyway... And my side effects were so horrible at the start, I don't want them all over again if I up the dose.

Dwerf Thu 15-May-14 16:32:53

I could've done with a bigger dose last night, I took ages to get to sleep worrying about a very minor surgery I was having done today. The stupid thing is, once it was underway I was absolutely fine.

SoleSource Thu 15-May-14 16:58:53

Worrier thread this is smile

<bangs heads together>

ouch!

cos we are caring people????? we care too much?? over think stuff?

kazzawazzawoo Thu 15-May-14 17:54:56

I've been really stressed the last few days, been standing in for my colleague whilst she was off, but also expected to do my job and all sorts of things went wrong. I managed in the end, but didn't finish everything and last night when I came home I felt like handing in my notice sad I can't go through that every time my colleague is off. Our boss seems to think our job is easy, so won't understand sad I need to think about what to do.

Today has been great, a day off, the first time I've been alone for a whole day in almost 2 years! ! I went back to bed once dh had gone to work and dd to school smile Then watched a film, bought some snacks, did some cleaning, walked the dog and cooked dinnersmile

chuffchuff Thu 15-May-14 17:59:07

Sounds good Kazza!

Sole yes this is definitely a worrier thread. Don't know about anyone else but I definitely overthink things, always have done. And I really want to stop analysing how I feel all the time, apart from anything else it's getting boring. I know if I stopped thinking about if I'm ok, i probably just would be. But does that stop me.....

kazzawazzawoo Thu 15-May-14 18:59:23

I'm terrible for over analysing things toosad I just can't stop my mind whirring and it drives me mad.

SoleSource Thu 15-May-14 19:47:48

I feel I do not deserve goodness or kindness. I don't deserve a clean house. Upping the dosage has motivated me to feel love for myself and I have cleared up a bit today. In place of a lot of self negative chat in my head I have a song there instead, on repeat.

Why do you have to make things so complicated song. Know about two lines, whirring over and over.

SoleSource Thu 15-May-14 19:49:02

I am blaming myself for silly things, dropping the dishcloth etc and for every single thing others have hurt me about in my past. All my fault ffs

Feeling calmer though hmm

Nuts aren't I? sad

chuffchuff Thu 15-May-14 20:08:59

We'll maybe but in a good way wink... And you're in good companysmile

SoleSource Thu 15-May-14 20:13:39

grin

SoleSource Thu 15-May-14 21:34:22

What time do you take the Setraline? (i know this has been asked before)

I take mine around midnight.

I might take it in the morning instead around 7am. See what that does..

kazzawazzawoo Thu 15-May-14 21:59:05

I take mine in the morning, because I was worried about it affecting my sleep.

littleowl14 Thu 15-May-14 22:33:32

hi! I went through the 'when to take it thing' - in the end I found morning to be best, I was advised it messes sleep up. its half life is 24 hours too.

hard to tell about when I started feeling normal - I was sleeping better and felt brighter and more able to focus within a few days. I think I felt a bit 'woo' for a while and had weird dreams (nice though) and by 6-8 weeks it had settled.

I went from 50 to 100 after 8 weeks but felt too puddingy. so went to 75. however I've really struggled with illness, aches, brain fog and fatigue since then (October). but I know know that's vit d.

seriously we just all need to take more vit d no questions asked. I'm starting to realise this has been an issue vfir me for a long time.

vit d effects muscles, bones and can affect cognition. (a bit like thyroid) if you feel weak you'll be less able to exercise, feel generally pants and low. so, it may not be the miracle cure but it'll help your body a bit which might help your mind.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2912737/

vitamindhealth.org/2013/04/the-d-lightful-vitamin-d-for-good-health-from-i-h-m-c-lecture-published-march-16-2013

haven't watched this^^ lecture yet but I'm sure it's similar to his other one.

chuffchuff Thu 15-May-14 22:51:41

I think I'm going to have to get some vitamin D!

Anyway, I also take mine in the morning. I started off taking them at lunchtime and struggled with my sleep a bit still, so I tried taking them after breakfast (I feel sick if I take them on an empty stomach) - and I sleep fine now.

I also have really clear, vivid dreams every night now too - not bad dreams, just wierd ones. I kind of look forward to them now!

kazzawazzawoo Thu 15-May-14 22:59:14

I too have vivid dreams every night.

SoleSource Fri 16-May-14 02:51:36

Still awake, sigh.

SoleSource Fri 16-May-14 04:58:55

Can we have self help videos/book recommendations

www.youtube.com/watch?v=tB98UvUb_PA&list=PL23C8FA21A29E23ED

Social anxiety

SoleSource Fri 16-May-14 05:31:22

Vitamin B8 is supposed to be great for calming.

SoleSource Fri 16-May-14 05:37:28

Fish oils.

SoleSource Fri 16-May-14 05:46:39
SoleSource Fri 16-May-14 14:18:16

Took Setraline 100 mg at 8 am before I went to bed, hmm

Feeling OK, still need CBT to stop self negative bullshit chat in my head.

SoleSource Fri 16-May-14 18:31:31

Started to feel slightly nice stoned feeling about 6 pm tonight smile during something stressful.

I will continue taking in the morning. smile

Might be better.

Has your appetite been effected?

chuffchuff Fri 16-May-14 19:15:47

Mornings seem to suit me too - I usually feel pretty relaxed in the evenings & always sleep really well now. Glad you're feeling ok sole smile

My appetite disappeared for the first couple of weeks because I felt so sick. Now that's gone I think I'm just back to normal appetite-wise.

Had a good day today, weather was lovely so I did a bit of gardening, and felt really chilled. Also went shopping and realised after a while that I was just wandering round slowly, looking at stuff and actually enjoying the experience shock

SoleSource Fri 16-May-14 19:28:34

Yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy chuff

That is beautiful!

Losing yourself in the moment. Relax aghhhhhhhh smile

chuffchuff Fri 16-May-14 20:17:59

Absolutely smile.

If my meds continue to make me feel like this I will be - dare I say ......... Happy smile

SoleSource Fri 16-May-14 21:51:20

Amazing aren't they? smile

littleowl14 Fri 16-May-14 22:09:05

smile that is very much how I found them to be. I could just enjoy stuff.

also, a very interesting side effect was to just not respond very quickly (and crossly) to irritating or provoking stuff dh said. I couldn't be arsed grin

SoleSource Fri 16-May-14 22:21:04

littleowl grin

Feeling much more relaxed now. Long may it continue. Quite looking forward to the 150mg grin

Realising I should have done this fucking years ago. Life has been a struggle, but I am strong, proud and didn't think it would ever get to this level.

chuffchuff Fri 16-May-14 22:26:33

I know what you mean - normally by now I would be in the thick of hideous pmt - but tonight I drifted right through cooking dinner, clearing up after and refereeing a fight between the dc with a smile on my face... Bit wierd really!

SoleSource Fri 16-May-14 23:49:30

Yeah, our new calm will take some getting used to, but we fucking deserve it!

Slight headache today, getting slightly worse.

What time do you take the tablets? Before 12pm?

chuffchuff Sat 17-May-14 12:56:18

Yes usually about ten in the morning smile

Lovely sunny hot day here today smile

SoleSource Sat 17-May-14 18:17:16

Beautiful day smile

I have the tummy might be medication..

Feeling better smile

SoleSource Sun 18-May-14 16:37:44

Feeling wellish today smile

Yes, better.

smile

How y'all doin?

chuffchuff Sun 18-May-14 20:11:18

Hi sole smile

Feeling fine today, nice and relaxed again - must be a few days in a row now, I should really keep a diary - the good days are definitely outnumbering the not so good...

Glad you're ok too smile

SoleSource Sun 18-May-14 20:34:07

That is really good to know chuff smile

We'll get there, ball of confidence grin

chuffchuff Sun 18-May-14 21:49:24

One wierd thing - my cycle is usually bang on every 28 days - but I got my P today and it's a few days early. That never happens, so I'm wondering if it's connected to the meds. Doesn't really matter if it is, just really took me by surprise - particularly as I have had literally NO PMT shock

If you knew me in RL you would know just how shocking that is [ grin]

chuffchuff Sun 18-May-14 21:50:04

Bit of an emoticon fail there...

SoleSource Sun 18-May-14 22:29:34

Same here chuff spotting two weeks early, full on todayhmm

Must be the meds..........will Google.

SoleSource Sun 18-May-14 22:32:49

No PMT for me either. According to Google, yes can cause pro-longed menstrual cycle. hmm great!

chuffchuff Sun 18-May-14 22:34:25

Ooh that can't just be a coincidence then can it? Wierd that we're in sync!

chuffchuff Sun 18-May-14 22:35:20

Hmm well the messed up cycle is slightly annoying, but I'm v v happy about no pmt!

Dwerf Sun 18-May-14 22:38:43

I got no PMT either, nor the usual breast pain. I can never remember when I'm actually due on, so I've no idea if I'm early.

Is increased thirst a side effect? (If not, could be just the weather).

Also do you drink alcohol on them?

chuffchuff Sun 18-May-14 22:52:14

You too Dwerf?!

I haven't had increased thirst, but for about the first month I had a really dry mouth, so did feel like drinking more.

And yes I do have the odd drink - my GP said its fine but to take it slowly because it may effect me quicker. I only have one or two anyway, but have felt fine smile

SoleSource Mon 19-May-14 00:13:17

Increased thirst here, not a drinker of alcohol. Appetite decreased, lost 8 lb.

Dwerf Mon 19-May-14 10:17:26

I lost a couple of pounds, but the appetite thing passed pretty quickly for me. In fact most of the side-effects have passed for me now and only 3 weeks in. I am seriously impressed with this drug.

SoleSource Mon 19-May-14 13:46:01

I feel calmer again today. Impressed here too. Still negative talk in mind a bit but lot less and not much to distract me, hoping that will change.

SoleSource Mon 19-May-14 14:30:54

I bought one a day Vitabiotics ultra bit D today from Boots. 1000 IU, optimum level.

The sunshine vitamin ��

Taken first one today.

i feel so good yayyy

SoleSource Mon 19-May-14 15:54:10

Dwerf x u ok?
chiff u ok?

kazza u ok?

well i feel good

SoleSource Mon 19-May-14 15:55:43

Cleaned fish tank, bought new fish to look at. Still have other chores to do but little by little i will get there.

taking my damn time about it too.

chuffchuff Mon 19-May-14 17:30:42

Hi sole smile

Still feeling good here too! I seem to be on a good run smile.

Hope everyone else is ok too.

SoleSource Mon 19-May-14 17:40:19

The OP hasn't been back buttons

Must be ok with her/him.

It has to last chuff say it will

Week 7 for you chuff?

chuffchuff Mon 19-May-14 18:52:37

I am really starting to believe it will sole smile. If nothing else, a month with no PMT is nothing short of a miracle grin

Yes I've been on them for seven weeks tomorrow - one week of 25mg, six of 50.

kazzawazzawoo Mon 19-May-14 19:05:54

Sole, they're the vitamin d pills i take too.

Hi everyone smile I'm a bit up and down at the moment. Mostly calmer, but the odd health worry sends me over the edge again sad I have a gp appointment tomorrow, so may be a little wiser after that.

I'm craving sugary stuff at the moment and cross that I'm putting on weight again, but can't seem to stop.

kazzawazzawoo Mon 19-May-14 19:06:59

What sort of fish do you have sole? I used to keep tropical fish, they were so peaceful to watch.

Dwerf Mon 19-May-14 19:22:11

I'm fine and dandy, I'm not taking extra vitamins, my doctor prescribed weekly canal walks so I've been doing that he didn't prescribe the sunburn I now have

I'm itching to do a bit of DIY but the other doctor forbade me from doing painting and decorating until I have the stitches on my elbow out (had a little lump removed)

And, not only have I not had PMT, my period seems to almost over days early/ lighter than usual.

Can I stay on these, like forever?

SoleSource Mon 19-May-14 19:24:30

Yayy chuff amaing x

kazza snap smile

It'll get better kazza you might need to up the dose...

I bought two goldfish for my big tank. Filter bubbles look nice smile

Have you told anybody in RL about Setraline, *Kazza and chuff?

I'm not telling anybody, ever!

Too many judgers out there.

I will hide the meds if I get a visitor etc lol

SoleSource Mon 19-May-14 19:26:22

Hey Dwerf canal walks sound good smile

I'm scared of walking around alone by the Birmingham canals, my anxiety over this might ease.

Do you tell people in RL Dwerf?

SoleSource Mon 19-May-14 19:29:01

I hope we can can stay on these forever too smile

Or maybe our bodies will become used to the Setraline and we'll need something else. Great question, I'll Google. brb

Dwerf Mon 19-May-14 19:35:04

Oh yes. Once I'd been to the doctors and been prescribed something it was like a validation that actually I needed more help than to tell myself to 'man up'. Most of my immediate family know what I'm taking - to be fair it was easier to tell them the other week than make up an explantion for being completely spaced out. Even my kids know, my youngest commented that I was much less moody now.

I'm not walking on my own, one walk I went with my best mate (who knows) and the other two with my mum. We get to spend time together, we both get some exercise. Job's a good'un.

I'm fighting a long-term war against my defective and rebellious brain. I need my troops to rally round me.

kazzawazzawoo Mon 19-May-14 20:06:17

I haven't told anyone except dh. No one needs to know and my mother would drive me mad.

I don't know if I could face increasing the dose if it means side effects again.

chuffchuff Mon 19-May-14 20:23:47

I'm very selective about who I tell in RL sole...

I have a close friend who I've confided in - she's been on ADs herself for a while now so I knew she wouldn't be 'judgey'. DH also knows. But other than that - nobody, and I'll probably keep it that way. I get on with my (birth) family fine, but we don't have the sort of relationships where we ever have heart to hearts and confide in each other - which is sad in a way but thats the way it's always been sad. And I do think they'd be judgey, sadly.

kazza sorry to hear you're still having ups and downs. Have you made another GP appt especially then? Mine said to make another appt after two months.

kazzawazzawoo Mon 19-May-14 20:29:07

No, I'm seeing my gp tomorrow about something else. I'm due back to review ADs after about 2 months too. I might mention to her tomorrow though that I'm not feeling too great - but am panicking she'll take me off them then!

I've realised I have lots of "issues" that I should probably discuss, but not sure how to go about sorting that out. Given what I've read about CBT on the NHS, I might wait until I can afford to pay for it myself, but could be waiting a long time.

SoleSource Mon 19-May-14 20:35:36

Definitely tell your GP kazza smile x

chuffchuff Mon 19-May-14 20:41:41

kazza I doubt she would take you off them - maybe she might want to up your dose a bit, or just give it a bit longer? Also, re CBT, have you had a look at 'mood gym' on the web? It's a kind of DIY CBT course - I've started it and just do a little bit whenever I think of it - it could help while you're waiting to get seen in RL? Also I've heard there's an NHS CBT course online that your GP can refer you for, it's a bit more personalised than mood gym because (I think) there are actual CBT counsellors on the site giving you feedback. There's no waiting list because your GP just has to give you a referral code you sign into the site with. Can't remember what it's called but will google.....

chuffchuff Mon 19-May-14 20:45:11

kazza it's called 'beating the blues' - www.beatingtheblues.co.uk
smile

kazzawazzawoo Mon 19-May-14 20:46:50

Thanks Chuff, I'll mention that to her. I'm not good at asking for help and struggle to tell anyone that I'm not coping.

Dwerf Mon 19-May-14 20:57:32

I'm not either Kazza, it's taken me months to admit that I needed to see a doctor. I suspect now that people have been worried about me recently, but whenever they've asked, they've gotten 'oh, I'm fine, just tired'.

I haven't had any judgy responses, just understanding and support.

chuffchuff Mon 19-May-14 21:19:00

That's good Dwerf smile - it could well be that my family would be much nicer about it all than I imagine - I tend to expect the worst of people unfortunately! But once it's out there, it's out there and I could end up wishing id kept it all to myself...

kazza I know what you mean about not wanting to ask for help - that's why it took me about two years to get to the doctors in the first place blush

kazzawazzawoo Mon 19-May-14 21:58:11

And I feel like a fraud, like they're looking at me and thinking there' s nothing wrong with me. I over analyse the whole thing and don't know what to say. I hate crying in front of others too

Online cbt sounds interesting, but again what will the gp think if I go in there, asking for this and that, as if I'm telling her how to do her job.

kazzawazzawoo Mon 19-May-14 22:06:22

Nobody worries about me, I have only a couple of friends, one tells me constantly she is depressed, I'm lucky! I'm distancing myself from her a little at the moment, as I find it difficult to be around her, she drags me down. My other friend I barely see, maybe twice a year. Dh has his own problems with unemployment and now a rubbish job. Family .. I'm an only child and my mum would drive me nuts, she wants everything fixed, quickly, so I would feel pressure to pretend I'm ok.

Dwerf Mon 19-May-14 22:27:10

Kazza, your GP will probably be glad you are being proactive, it's a positive thing. Is it any different to telling the midwife you'd quite like to try a waterbirth because you've heard good things about it, or requesting acupuncture because you feel it may be beneficial for back pain?

These are your ammo against MH demons. And no army refused to use ammo in case it made them look weak. Not that I'm calling any of you weak, you've already had the strength to go to GP to get a diagnosis, it's no small thing mustering that courage. It's a fight though.

kazzawazzawoo Tue 20-May-14 07:34:35

I guess so. It's just brought home to me how bad I am at asking for help or admitting my feelings/problems at all.

(And I wouldn't dare ask for acupuncture for anything either ...!)

chuffchuff Tue 20-May-14 09:46:55

Kazza I understand how you feel - my family are a bit like that too - quite 'stiff upper lip' and 'just get on with it'.

But honestly, do mention it to your GP - as sole says - it can only be a good thing that you want to be proactive about getting better. Hope it goes well today smile

SoleSource Tue 20-May-14 10:31:58

Took me years to ask for help. Therapist insisted i was not depressed just low. Over the last two years i had depression, therapy did it i think..
I bottled out when the going got tough.

With zero support i have had to be very strong all of my life, i cant even pretend i have a life anymore, nobody to share it with even if he or she is a cunt.

littleowl14 Tue 20-May-14 12:33:06

hi all smile

yes sunshine is best - pharmacist told me, we don't absorb well - however our latitude and weather is crap (esp where I am in the north). and sun is only good around midday. the vitamin d council website explains more. to do with ozone layer and oblique angles of rays at diff times of the day etc.

I think as time wore on on the sertraline the floaty wooness reduced but I still felt nicely balanced. the noisy fuss of panic and worry, gloom and anger in my head just wasnt there. and when I went to 100 form 50 I had barely any side effects that time. at the time though I thought it dulled me too much nut now I'm suspecting cognitive affects of low vit d. (point to note is that I'm still bf so will be using up more via d, plus I was back at work in Sept so barely any sun.)

I'm very much hoping that once I know I'm ok vit d wise, as well my thyroid dose, I can wean off the sert, but it can take a good 6 months to feel ok apparently after starting vit d treatment.

I think my advice would be to ask for a proper test via dr. and also probably ask for a thyroid test too if you haven't as that causes depression too.

SoleSource Tue 20-May-14 13:57:06

Up & down today, my weight causes my anxiety sad

kazzawazzawoo Tue 20-May-14 15:42:03

Back from the doctor's. I had symptoms of a prolapse and she has confirmed a mild prolapse and referred me for an ultrasound and physio. Also diagnosed thrush. She asked how I'm getting on with sertraline and advised taking a little longer, but happy to increase my dose if needed.I didn't mention cbt. Next time. ..

chuffchuff Tue 20-May-14 16:28:27

kazza sorry to hear about prolapse... I have had a couple of friends who had physio for that and it really helped them. Sorry to be nosey but has the thrush only started since taking sertraline? Just that I've had that too recently and didn't make a (possible) connection until now - did she say it could be because of the meds?

It's good the GP is saying to give them a bit longer before upping the dose I think - I've read lots of things saying that it takes up to two months for the full effect to kick in and sometimes even longer than that - how long did she say to give it? And my GP said he would only up my dose if really necessary after giving 50mg a good chance, to keep the side effects to a minimum apart from anything else.

Hope you're feeling ok about it all, anyway smile

chuffchuff Tue 20-May-14 16:29:45

And PS sorry to hear you're up and down today sole. But try to remember ups and downs are to be expected in the early days smile

SoleSource Tue 20-May-14 17:01:14

Kazza sorry to read that x

i have the runs again x

kazzawazzawoo Tue 20-May-14 17:10:11

Not feeling great, feel old and decrepid sad Find it all very embarrassing and difficult to talk about and scared I'll need surgery at some point which scares me. I want to be young and well again, instead of having so many niggles to worry about.

But on the plus side I have at last seen a gp about it, been putting it off for a while. I have other gynae issues and am totally fed up.

kazzawazzawoo Tue 20-May-14 17:11:10

Sorry you have the runs sole, it's probably the increased dose, isn't it?

SoleSource Tue 20-May-14 18:01:07

Yeah, not eating much either. Could be i need to change my diet.

Feeling melancholy, listening to Dionne Warwick at Pebble Mill 1982, Heartbreaker, beautiful on Youtube

kazzawazzawoo Tue 20-May-14 18:07:27

Love that song brings back memories.

SoleSource Tue 20-May-14 18:10:26

Lana Del Ray - gods and monsters smile
tuuuune

SoleSource Tue 20-May-14 18:11:39

kazza x post, i feel the same sad

Just keep posting peeps, don't leave me

chuffchuff Tue 20-May-14 18:32:58

Not going anywhere sole!

Sorry about your dodgy tummy sad. You've got me thinking about Pebble Mill now - my first crush was on a pebble mill presenter who had a really big nose grin. Can't remember his name though...

Feeling ok today btw smile. Still in shock about the no PMT bombshell!

kazzawazzawoo Tue 20-May-14 18:33:17

I won't leave, but don't get much time to post when I'm working. I've got to cover for a colleague again Thursday and Friday angry shock but then have next week off as its half term.Hoping I don't get as stressed this week.

chuffchuff Tue 20-May-14 18:36:50

kazza that's a positive then - you faced it and sorted it out with your GP smile.

chuffchuff Tue 20-May-14 18:37:32

Sorry x posted Kazza! I meant positive re your previous post smile

SoleSource Tue 20-May-14 22:04:04

Have PMT, had bad day, told lighterlife consultant i'm on setraline, would i like to view the room so i fel comfortable? prejudice already, silly bitch sad

Chuffchuff Tue 20-May-14 22:14:03

Oh that's crappy sole - I thought you'd escaped PMT line I had?
Maybe upping your dose is giving you some side effects?

Chuffchuff Tue 20-May-14 22:21:16

Meant 'like I had'...... Bloody spell check!

SoleSource Tue 20-May-14 22:56:47

I thought I had too, odd, period is here!! hmm

SoleSource Wed 21-May-14 22:15:01

Feel odd, bit low and very anxious today, rambling a bit at car dealer guy, snapped at receptionist and jet garage manager ater guy almost ripped my car door off. shit, shit day PMT i think...

Chuffchuff Thu 22-May-14 11:06:29

What happened sole?

How did he almost rip your door off? Do you mean he was having a go at you? Feel free to offload on here - sorry you're feeling crappy.

I am still up and down, I think it's par for the course...

Chuffchuff Thu 22-May-14 11:07:31

Sorry also meant to say - you may still have escaped PMT as you thought - if you've got your period already surely it cant be that? It might just be you adjusting to the meds?

SoleSource Thu 22-May-14 12:10:36

Yeah chuff, feels like PMT, today i feel bit drugged with slight headache. Guy drove into my drivers door. IM ok just tired.

SoleSource Thu 22-May-14 14:05:15

Sitting on a bench watching a swan at the lakes. Perfect

SoleSource Thu 22-May-14 15:30:59

Didn't go to LL class as too much money. I feel better right now, enjoyed my walk arud the lake. So much easier since giving up cigarettes. Somebody asked me if I had lost weight yesterday smile

SoleSource Thu 22-May-14 15:33:24

LL counsellor called me, she is nice smile

Chuffchuff Thu 22-May-14 16:14:54

That's good sole

Has your appetite gone down a bit? I think mine has - I don't feel sick anymore but my appetite doesn't seem to have gone back to normal.

SoleSource Thu 22-May-14 17:26:49

I think feeling less stressed has made my appetite decrease. I overeat for comfort.

kazzawazzawoo Thu 22-May-14 21:44:41

I think confused my period finally started today, has been threatening to for over a week, but that's part of taking the mini pill sad. Anyway I've been shovelling chocolate in as fast as I could for the past few days, which I'm attributing to PMT (that's my excuse and I'm sticking to it!). I wish I could eat less. My clothes are all tight again and I just want sweet stuff all the time.

SoleSource Fri 23-May-14 13:40:10

kaa I am exactly the same around PMT time.

Appetite still decreased.

Doing stupid things, I feel as though my brain works too fast for my physical reactions. I left my electric key n the supermarket today.

Instead of churning stuf over in my mind I am very, very gradually just DOING tasks I usually am anxious about. Positive.

kazzawazzawoo Sat 24-May-14 09:45:33

Well, I have survived the two days this week covering for my colleague at work, although very busy and stressed I didn't go to pieces as I have in the past. After I finish today at 1 pm I have a week off! Yay! I have lots of cleaning to do and dd is home for school hols, but I will be taking it easy and enjoying walking the dog.

Hope you are all ok and that life is getting a little easier. Sole, hope you found your key again?

I'm still eating too much chocolate, cross with myself, but will try and get a grip over the weekend, as dh still being very good eating healthily and I don't want to lead him astray.

Dwerf Sat 24-May-14 09:51:33

The other week I was so dozy that I almost walked out in front of a car, left my coat on a wall when tying my shoelace and then forgot to pick it up and also did the same with a full bottle of coke. Thankfully I seem to be past that.

I have noticed that my desire to keep the rest of the world at bay by being permenantly connected to my earphones has lessened, I've not even taken them with me into town recently.

kazzawazzawoo Sat 24-May-14 10:05:40

That's good news Dwerf. Earphones are sounding like a good idea to me at the moment!

SoleSource Sat 24-May-14 17:48:13

kazza that is fantastic ew wrt your work, onwards and upwards thanks

Dwerf LOL snap! I opened my car door to get out for petrol and a guy I didn't see mashed into it whilst over taking me hmm

I feel calm, normal and no anxiety at all today. Respite staff at DS's respite home were lovely. On line friend fell out with me last night and I couldn't give a toss -thick cow--

SoleSource Sun 25-May-14 18:05:38

Hello

Feeling ok today but i am getting out of bed too late.

Loads to do in yere but the energy isn't there, nobody to tidy up for, feeling lonely today though, ffs.