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emetophobes, it's that time of year :(

(506 Posts)
devilinside Mon 07-Oct-13 09:31:28

First bucket sighting at school this morning. My sister had norovirus last week after attending a party where some selfish buggers thought it was acceptable to bring along a vomiting toddler. Most of the other guests got the bug including an elderly man. Feel free to add your rants and worries here.

TobyLerone Mon 07-Oct-13 09:34:43

We've all got our antiviral hand gel at the ready! Probably won't make a blind bit of difference, but it makes me feel better.

devilinside Mon 07-Oct-13 09:49:30

www.emetophobiahelp.org/norovirus.html
here for anyone who hasn't seen it. May help to put your mind at rest

TobyLerone Mon 07-Oct-13 11:36:51

That link is brilliant smile

CakeInMyFace Mon 07-Oct-13 20:53:35

Hi can someone tell me where I can get anti viral hand gel? I've only ever seen antibacterial stuff and I know that doesn't work against noro. Had it two years ago but avoided it last year so I reckon will get it again this winter! Must be diligent...

idiot55 Mon 07-Oct-13 20:57:42

Im here, signing in, for another year.

Antiviral hand gel is purell.

Google purell anti viral, f a few companies stock it now.

I caused a fallout by telling a mum at school to obey the 48 hour rule!! Didnt go down well.

Last week i survived my daughter being in a vomiting virus ridden childrens ward for two days, cant believe we survived!

idiot55 Mon 07-Oct-13 21:03:37

Just read a bit in that article about virusolve, i ant work out does it kill noro? Anyone know

TobyLerone Mon 07-Oct-13 21:25:10

Milton hand gel is also antiviral. They sell it in Sainsbury's. Or amazon.

Boots also have Milton, £1.99 a bottle I think it is.

monikar Tue 08-Oct-13 12:50:52

I read somewhere that not only should you wash your hands frequently when you think you have been in contact with a vomiting bug, but also your face and the faces of your DC, as the droplets can stick to the face. I think it is best to use disposable wipes for this. DD had vomiting over the summer and I did this and didn't catch it.

JudithOfThePiece Tue 08-Oct-13 13:19:21

God, this thread is good timing - thank you!

I have been doing quite well with my anxiety recently, but over the last day or two I have started to feel panicky about all of this again. Then I feel nauseous because of that and that makes me worry more, and so the cycle continues! I'm guessing that everyone on this thread knows exactly what I'm talking about!

That link is brilliant. I definitely feel a bit calmer after reading that.

TobyLerone Tue 08-Oct-13 14:11:59

That link has helped me no end. Seriously. I wish I'd read it years ago.

I hate this time of year, as it is the beginning of six months or so of on-and-off worry. I have three DSs in primary school and it feels as if they are as good as walking among germs.

We haven't had a serious stomach bug hit our house for 3 years now, surely it must be our turn this year. I did read somewhere that some people are genetically immune to norovirus. I've never had it myself (touch wood) although I have had stomach bugs which entailed nearly being sick and lots of the other. I still sit on the point of panic whenever someone tells me about a stomach bug at school.

I'm just glad I'm not the only worrier about this.

ephemeralfairy Tue 08-Oct-13 15:58:03

Yes, good timing! My hands are chapped already from constant washing. Last winter was when my emet really went through the roof and I'm already feeling tense and panicky. Will be good to have a place to worry with others who understand!!

jellyandcake Tue 08-Oct-13 16:08:36

I have AB blood - very much hope it's true that this makes me immune! I am an inveterate nail biter though and this is very good incentive to stop. I hope it's also true that they are close to developing a vaccine for noro, that would be amazing!

20% of Europeans are immune, that's really high. There's hope!

Oh a vaccine would be fantastic.

I'm sat here avoiding work and googling...

That link was great, thank you :-)

I am a recovering emetophobe, I am much much better than I used to be.

leobear Tue 08-Oct-13 21:32:26

It's definitely back, DD threw up all over the sofa before bed

justmuddlingalongsomehow Wed 09-Oct-13 05:04:01

Checking in. Name changed this year but long term resident of this particular sofa!

TobyLerone Wed 09-Oct-13 07:19:40

How is she now, leobear?

DS was sick in the car park on the way to preschool this morning. Nothing since. Is anyone else REALLY unsympathetic when it comes to being sick?
I have had to text a few people to tell them as plans have now changed, and they have all sent lovely messages back about how they hope he is feeling better soon etc. He is absolutely fine now, you wouldn't know it has happened, so I am just sat here feeling annoyed that we are now housebound for two bloody days sad I think it comes from 15 years of being able to stop myself being sick, so it kind of feels like there's no 'excuse' for it, IYSWIM blushblush I hate that I feel like that, but really can't help it sad

MotherOfSoupDragon Wed 09-Oct-13 11:17:07

I hate this time of year, constantly worrying. Dd gets it nearly every year. Hoping things will get better now she's at high school.

leobear Wed 09-Oct-13 16:43:30

DD fine now - must have been a one-off. Sympathy with everyone here, I had this phobia really badly as a child and teen. Am ok now, but I know how awful it is. hmm

DS2's best friend was off on Wed with sickness (described by his mum as 'vomity vomity vomity'), he was back on Thurs (which is less than the 48-hours of the school policy) and I was in school helping with art and he was in my group. So panicking now. I'm also friends with his mum so am dreading getting it this weekend as I'm away. I hate this panic. It's horrible.

Balaboosta Fri 11-Oct-13 17:35:41

Ooh hello - a thread just for us! That's nice never found it before. Hi everyone.

And yes, I've had the feeling of impending doom at this time of year as well...! It's so so so horrible and it ruins my life.

But... Wanted to say that I've seen a gigantic improvement in my anxiety since I began meditation last Christmas. The programme I've been following is this:

whatmeditationreallyis.com/

Please ask me anything about it. It's been amazing and only 'relapsed' a little this week with this feeling of impending doom.

TrinityRhino Fri 11-Oct-13 17:46:35

devilinside
thankyou for that link
thankyou very much smile

idiot55 Sat 12-Oct-13 17:44:35

Ive been up all night feeling v v v sick, took loads of motilium, didnt vomit but had diarhhea. Sure its a bug as i had the weird tired feeling yesterday and slight temp.

Bloomin horrible.

So so hoping i dont pass it on to anyone.

Anyone else tried motilium?

TobyLerone Sat 12-Oct-13 19:37:45

I love Motilium. Can't take it currently because I'm pregnant, but I usually have some in my bag at all times.

justmuddlingalongsomehow Sat 12-Oct-13 19:47:27

DS complained of tummy ache again this evening. Hoping it's just because he fell asleep sideways in his car seat after eating crap at a party. This evening he is sitting next to me munching his dinner, no mention of tummy ache for over an hour. But I am a wreck sad and can't eat a bite.

justmuddlingalongsomehow Sat 12-Oct-13 19:47:42

DS complained of tummy ache again this evening. Hoping it's just because he fell asleep sideways in his car seat after eating crap at a party. This evening he is sitting next to me munching his dinner, no mention of tummy ache for over an hour. But I am a wreck sad and can't eat a bite.

idiot55 Sat 12-Oct-13 21:23:55

My 9 year ols is now feeling sick, gave er half a motilium, hope she will be ok.

Ooo, motillium, never heard of that, must google it.
DD (who is never sick) has been sick in the night, trying to get back to sleep now after dealing with it sad

idiot55 Sun 13-Oct-13 08:05:51

Hope your daughter is ok this morning whispers. My 9 year ols is still asleep but no sick in the night, my 5 year old has on the other hand had diarrhea all night!

Thanks idiot, sadly it continued until about 4 this morning and DH was ill too sad The only good thing really is that he thinks it's food poisoning (we went to a restaurant yesterday and he pinched a bit of her food), so fingers crossed it's not catchable. We won't be eating there again!

Sorry, hope your 5 yo is ok!

justmuddlingalongsomehow Sun 13-Oct-13 08:29:43

Oh yuck whispers what a hideous night. Hope not a big linked to your little one being dick in the carpark during the week? Hope you all have a restful sunday!

justmuddlingalongsomehow Sun 13-Oct-13 08:30:05

Bug bug blooming fat fingers on my phone!

justmuddlingalongsomehow Sun 13-Oct-13 08:32:51

Being sick obviously not dick
<searches for new phone>

Bumpiemalumpie Sun 13-Oct-13 08:44:29

hello, can I join? I actually never thought there was anyone else who felt the same as I do!!

idiot55 Sun 13-Oct-13 08:54:22

Gosh whispers, fingers crossed they feel better soon.

Hi bumpie, i remember a big sense of relief when i found there was a name and other people thought and felt the same as me.

I know, Just, I am really hoping it's not related and is just an awful coincidence! Has been a terrible week, this is the most sickness we have had in the house in the last ten years!! I have escaped though thankfully, and intend to keep it that waysmile

I remember feeling a similar sense of relief at finding out it wasn't just me. I think I remember reading that it is the 6th most common phobia?
Does anyone want to share their stories about how they came to be phobic and their progress since?

idiot55 Sun 13-Oct-13 13:30:35

I became phobic when my eldest daughter was about 15 months and picked up norovirus three times in a year and other vomiting bugs inbetween and then rotavirus. She was at a particular unstringent nurserry!

I had CBT on and off for five years, i think it helped a bit.

I used to be quite agrophobic because of it, ive improved a bit, for the sake of my children.
My younger daughter has a gastrointestional disorder that means she vomitsmquite a bit, but its a selfish thing for me, I am frightened of me vomiting, so its specifically bugs i am frightened of.

It rulesmand ruins my life to a degree, i am embarrassed about some of the things i do to try and avoid either myself or my children picking up,bugs.

I am mostly phobic for myself too, although really really hate hearing other people as wellsad

Mine started when I was 18, just started Uni and had a boyfriend be sick in a really echoey bathroom next to my room. The next week he was over again and I had a sudden wave of nausea which resulted in a panic attack and a trip to A&E as boyfriend thought that I couldn't breathe.
After the panic attack had subsided, I was diagnosed with gastritis and a possible stomach ulcer, but this was never confirmed. Took me a while to connect the stomach issues/panic attacks and emetophobia. I wasn't sick for the next 9 years as I learnt to control it very well, until I was in labour with dc1 as I was distracted by being in labour so couldn't control it!
Then also had a stomach bug when dc1 was 7 weeks old. I have been ok since then, I have had virtually no periods of nausea and the accompanying panic attacks. Just really hoping that I can continue like that as this week has made me very very anxious, I haven't felt like this since dc1 was born (nearly 4 years ago), but then I've not been in this situation before! I really thought I was well recovered until today sad

monikar Mon 14-Oct-13 10:53:01

I find that when I hear that someone has been sick it brings on a huge amount of wiping with anit-bacterial wipes or cleaner - does anyone else have this? I wipe taps, doorhandles, all surfaces, anything either I or the DC have touched.

If someone in the house is actually sick, my wiping increases further.

It makes me cross to hear that people send their children into school the day after they have been sick - unfortunately the 48 hour rule is something that is impossible to enforce.

idiot55 Mon 14-Oct-13 17:53:03

Oh whisper, i hope things improve.

Monikar, i do,that too, with antiviral wipes!

My daughter is in hospital a lot and i gomaround cleaning the bed, anything with antiviral,stuff and bleach!

A huge worry to me is any psychologicalmeffect this will have on my kids.

They just laugh at me, and we make a joke of it.

Everyone's recovered and all bedding, towels etc have been thoroughly washed. 4 loads!! Ugh sad

Still, glad it's all over, pretty certain that it was food poisoning which is a great relief to me.

Balaboosta Mon 14-Oct-13 22:08:56

Sending good vibrations to the mummies with sick DCs.

Love this thread... Thank you for sharing stories.

It's comforting to hold (well-disinfected!) hands on this strange thing we all struggle with. Has any of you ever met another fellow emetophobe in RL? So strange to share something that otherwise feels so obscure and unusual...

Balaboosta Mon 14-Oct-13 22:11:09

whispers I do this, madly trying to diagnose the reason for any sickness in the family with tummy bugs given a higher status on the anxiety levels than food poisoning.

I haven't knowingly met anyone, Bala, but I've got a feeling my stepmum might be as she looks horrified and uncomfortable if the subject ever comes up.
There must be thousands of us really.
Food poisoning definitely lower anxiety rating, but still make me worry more about the food I'm eating for a while. Will be quite anxious eating out for a while now, and probably wouldn't choose anything high on the risk factors for food poisoning.

MotherOfSoupDragon Mon 14-Oct-13 22:40:26

I didn't know any other emetophobes for a long time, but started a new job this year and both colleagues have daughters who are emetophobes!

monikar Tue 15-Oct-13 09:29:26

I share the thoughts that if I think someone has been sick due to food poisoning that is lower on the anxiety scale than a bug, and I agree it then makes me more careful about sell-by dates and food hygiene in general. If I hear anyone has been sick (even if it is someone literally a hundred miles away who I have not seen for ages) I frantically attempt to diagnose the reason for it to reassure myself that I will not get it.

I have never met anyone in RL but there must be a lot of people out there who share our worries.

It would be lovely not to have this worry - I did smile at Bala holding well-disinfected hands!

Balaboosta Tue 15-Oct-13 22:55:24

I recently found out that DBIL is! Also worked with a woman years ago and came to realise that she was one too. It wasn't so bad for me then though...

ephemeralfairy Thu 17-Oct-13 14:47:04

I recently found out that a very good friend is an emet, she is a very sensible and sorted person so I found it very reassuring that it's not just me being a weirdo!!

Bumpiemalumpie Sat 19-Oct-13 07:30:11

Sorry I posted and ran, had a funny turn at work so been having tests. am 24 weeks pg so very stressful.

I can't remember why or how mine started but it can, at times be debilitating, like when people at work start talking about being sick or feeling sick.

How am I going to manage when a mum?!

TobyLerone Sat 19-Oct-13 07:44:58

It's horrible and scary but you do manage. Feeling sorry for them helps. And it doesn't last forever.

Hope you feel better soon flowers

monikar Mon 21-Oct-13 09:55:55

Bumpie yes Toby is right - you do manage because you have to. When your baby needs you and is ill, that over-rides everything. It is hard though but you honestly will be able to manage.

Hope you are feeling better today flowers .

Hello all, I'm back in panic mode as just dropped DSs at school and talk of sickness bug... We're going on holiday on Saturday for half term. We do it every year, me and three other mums and our collective 13 children. Trying not to panic. If we make it to about Sunday with no illness (tomorrow is the last day of school) then I know we're ok. But in the meantime.

absentmindeddooooodles Wed 23-Oct-13 09:41:14

Hi...can I join please? Im so relieved to have found others with the same fears.

People call me strange and ott but I just cant help it.

This fear is completely debilitating. Every single day I feel sick and have at least one panick attack. I dont do much as im scared that anything can make me feel sick.

Is ot true that you can stop yourself being sick? I havnt been sick sonce I was about 14..... now almost 24. ( been bery close though)

I just struggle now I have ds. I feel awfual about all of this. Does anyone have any coping stratergies or advice? My life is ruled by this and its causing so so much anxiety. sad

monikar Wed 23-Oct-13 11:22:46

Becky it always happens when you are booked to go away doesn't it? Just tomorrow to get through and chances are it will all be fine. It sounds like a great holiday with the mums and all the children together.

absent welcome smile - everyone understands how you feel here.
I don't know if you can stop yourself being sick. How old is your DS? I found that when I became a mum I worried more about germs and being sick but at the same time a baby is totally reliant on you so you have to cope if it happens.

The best piece of advice I got was from a book on anxiety and that said to 'accept' how you are feeling. Easier said than done but I have found that it does help a bit. The more you worry about feeling sick the more anxiety you have in your body and the sicker you will feel and it is a vicious circle. So the first step is to accept that you feel sick - it doesn't make it go away but it means that you are not making it worse. When you feel sick all the time, anything is worth a try. It's horrible isn't it?

flowers

monikar it really is a great holiday (very knackering though - meal times are chaos!) but this is the fourth year we've done it, we've been lucky with bugs so far. Fingers crossed. I figure if we can get to Sunday we'll be ok.

absent I haven't properly been sick since I was 16 and I am 41 now. I haven't consciously stopped myself but I think the fear might be taking over when I feel I might be sick. I am still terrified of bugs coming to us though even though I've been so lucky (it usually attacks me the other end).

absentmindeddooooodles Wed 23-Oct-13 11:50:24

Monikar and becky thankyou.

Im better than I thought I woupd be with ds. He has been hospitalised twice with gastroenteritis and I coped with the help of his dad.

I cant evwn watch someone be sick on a cartoon though. I go into a cold sweat, my heart goes so fast and fewl like I will faint. Then comes the anxiety attack.

Does cbt work? I was hoping there were some kind of anti sickness tablets out there. Ive tried strematil?? Sp? But cant take them all the time.

monikar Wed 23-Oct-13 13:11:12

absent I expect cbt would help but I haven't tried it myself.

I am better now DD is older - when she was younger I would worry myself silly, but now she is older there seem to be less frequency of sickness bugs going around so I am not quite as bad as I was. Hopefully you will find the same as your DS gets older.

Dancergirl Wed 23-Oct-13 23:53:53

Another emet checking in too.

Such a relief to talk to people who understand, it's very comforting.

Hand gel, what's best - Purell or Milton?

Dancergirl Wed 23-Oct-13 23:56:07

Thank you so much for the article about noro. I always thought V and D were how your body got rid of the virus. I forgot about killer cells being produced, I should have remembered really, I did AS Biology a few years ago!

Twighlightsparkle Fri 25-Oct-13 23:39:21

Hi, I've name changed ( was idiot 55) hope everyone Is doing ok.

Welcome to the thread absent smile

I definitely think emetophobes can stop themselves being sick, I have many times over the years. I also tend to get it at the other end if I have!

All ok here, anxiety reduced to near 'normal' levels after the horrific incident the other week. The restaurant have sent us a form to fill in with all the details, it looks like they are trying to get off the hook for giving DH and DD food poisoning hmm

Twighlightsparkle Sat 26-Oct-13 20:05:14

Oh no! Whispers, did you hand samples in for testing etc.

I work in a hospital, out patients!

There are two wards shut with Niro just now.

I emailed asking them to consider publicising the 48 hour rule, front page local newspaper( we don't have much news here!) and not a mention, just asking those with D and V to try and avoid visiting hospital!

Aaaahhhhh drives me bonkers!

justmuddlingalongsomehow Sun 27-Oct-13 07:18:58

Morning all. Hope all of you are well prepared for the big blow!!

Found this site via a Facebook support group. Probably exactly what a CBT therapist would tell me to a pod as it is all about reassurance but hey ho!!!

justmuddlingalongsomehow Sun 27-Oct-13 07:19:18

avoid not a pod!!

Marne Mon 28-Oct-13 22:01:23

Hate this time of year, as soon as the clocks change I get anxious (like its officially d&v season), a few kids came down with it last week at school, i'm hoping because its half term it wont spread (but I know this will probably not be the case).

I am extra anxious at the moment, have been poorly for a few days with a mouth abscess, phoned out of hours doctor at the weekend and was sent to a&e (hate going near hospitals), I was given morphine and a anti sickness tablet when I got there and was then give codeine and antibiotics, when I got home I was sick (total panic), luckily I hadn't eaten due to the bad mouth so only had medication in me, was still horrid. To all those people who say 'once you have actually been sick your phobia will vanish' i'm afraid that is not true sad, I am now petrified of taking medication but I have to take the antibiotics for 7 days, each time I take them I feel sick (even though i'm taking domperidone ), i'm too scared to take the codeine.

I was doing quite well up until now sad, even managed to laught at dh last week when he was wretching after the dog pooped on the floor (usually I would be a shaking wreck). I'm now dreading the winter, would happily lock us all in the house to keep us away from bugs.

Twighlightsparkle Mon 28-Oct-13 22:06:37

Sorry to hear you were sick Marne. I completly understand you, I'm sure we all think very similarly.

I cancelled my gall bladder op because I'm frightened of being sick, but then realised that it needs done, went to my GP to ask to be re referred , he asked why I'd cancelled, and almost laughed at me saying, they don't deliberately make you vomit!

Marne Tue 29-Oct-13 09:08:39

Hope the op goes well thigh light, I would be scared for the same reason, I think the reason why I'm scared of the dentist is because I'm worried the injections will make me feel sick. Dh had surgery a few years ago and I was petrified that he would be sick after but knew I had to be there for him, luckily they often give you anti sickness meds now so it's less likely to happen. I try and avoid anything that may make me sick, thought I would be ok on sat as they gave me anti sickness meds so was a bit of a shock when I suddenly felt very sick ( though it meant I didn't have much time to get worked up about it ).

I have just taken my daily dose of antibiotics, took double my domperidone first and luckily I don't feel sick. Dreading the dentist tomorrow.

monikar Tue 29-Oct-13 11:54:32

Marne sorry to hear you were sick - how horrible, especially if you were in pain with your mouth too. If you don't feel sick now that is a good sign - perhaps on Saturday it could have been a combination of an empty stomach and panic. I would be the same. Not being able to eat with a sore mouth means that you would have had a lot of stomach acid and then that can make you sick. It is better to try and eat just some soft stuff like ready brek (even if it is revolting) as then you don't have a stomach full of acid, which makes it churn more.

Hope the dentist goes well tomorrow and really hope you feel better soon

Twighlightsparkle Wed 30-Oct-13 14:21:16

My DH had a hernia op about ten years ago and had to stay in overnight due to vomiting.

It was nightmarish, for me, never mind him!

My 5 year old has had 13 general anaesthetics and thankfully has never vomited after. Maybe she takes after me and I will be the same! Who knows!

ephemeralfairy Mon 04-Nov-13 14:01:07

I was on holiday last week with DP and two of our friends...four people, one bathroom. Not a good equation for an emet!
Everyone was fine but I felt really tense all week.
Had nightmares about v-ing last night. It's going to be a long winter!!

Marne Mon 04-Nov-13 15:56:00

First day back at school and I get the dreaded text from school saying the sickness bug is going around, on the plus side it does state that children should be kept off for at least 48 hours after they were last sick (I know some schools only say 24 hours), although I am pleased that they warn people by text and push the 48hour thing it also sends me into a anxious panic.

Dd2 are now home and hands washed grin, both dd's have a child off in their class with it (the same family, whole family had it).

Has anyone else got OCD due to this phobia? I am obsessed with touching (or more not touching anything) and keeping everything clean, also cant go to a public loo without washing my hands 3 times after and I refuse to touch the toilet door with my hands (will use elbow or foot), this phobia sends me crazy sad.

ephemeralfairy Mon 04-Nov-13 17:01:27

Marne me too!! I wash my hands obsessively, they are sore and cracked at the moment. Preparing a meal is a nightmare as I have to wash my hands each time I've touched a surface, utensil or even the food packaging. I also can't eat anything if I'm out and about unless I have literally just washed my hands and not touched ANYTHING else. I find communal eating event like picnics, BBQs etc incredibly stressful. I'm sure I must look like an absolute nutcase. sad

Marne Mon 04-Nov-13 17:38:28

I love cooking but it does involve a lot of hand washing, raw chicken is the worst, I have to wash my hands each time I touch it, wash knives straight away to make sure they are not used for something else and wash anything it might have come into contact with grin, my hands are sore and cracked sad. My mum thinks i'm crazy when I tell her about my hand washing and how I make the dd's get washed and dressed as soon as they get home from school. One of my big hates are school cake sales (our school seems to always have a cake sale when theres a bug going around), I refuse to let the dd's but a cake so I make my own at home and then tell them 'we have better cake at home' grin.

monikar Tue 05-Nov-13 13:49:38

Marne and ephemeral I also wash my hands a lot - the winter is the worst for me as my hands get very cracked and sore. I put handcream on them but they are still bad.

I don't like buffets as I am worried that people will have coughed or sneezed on the food and I am worried that it has been kept warm for too long. I also don't like cake sales - my DD is in the sixth form now so there is not much of these sort of things to buy but I do understand, it used to make my very nervous.

justmuddlingalongsomehow Tue 05-Nov-13 21:04:45

Checking in with rough chapped hands and anxiety sky high. No bugs that I know of at dcs school at the moment but it is a matter of time. How many weeks till spring?! 7 weeks till xmas hols anyway!!

Halloweenjunkie Tue 05-Nov-13 21:52:02

Only just seen tgis thread. I've suffered from emet since I was a small child, it's a horrible phobia. Made worse today because DH has just come down with a stomach bug. I've banished him to the other bedroom and have told him to only use one bathroom, and I'll use the downstairs loo. I feel like the whole house is contaminated. It's made worse this year because our PFB is only 4 months old and I'm terrified she's going to catch it. Hands are chapped raw from handwashing and Purell hand gel is in frequent use

ephemeralfairy Wed 06-Nov-13 10:32:45

Oh halloween how awful. I real feel for you. Hope you don't get it!

monikar Wed 06-Nov-13 12:07:47

Halloween I use the same method as you when DH is ill - he has to confine himself to one bathroom and we use the other one. I know what you mean about the whole house being contaminated - when I have illness in the house it brings on all my wiping and I go round with disinfectant wipes, wiping door handles and light switches. I also have to change the towels which other people have dried their hands on and then of course there is the constant handwashing. This method has prevented me and the DC from getting DH's bugs in the past so I am very hopeful for you.

Marne Wed 06-Nov-13 12:51:54

Halloween- hope you manage to stay bug free, I would do the same with my dh (I feel so lucky now we have 2 bathrooms), my dh is rarely sick, he did have a mild bug last year (luckily he wasn't sick, just the other end) so he stayed in bed and used the upstairs bathroom and I bleached it 3 times a day just to make sure grin.

Not liking the posts on FB from people saying their kids have the bug, my friends dd has it and goes to the same school as my dd's (luckily she is not in the same year as my dd's), I am trying to focus on the positives, I get really anxious about picking up the bug near Christmas (a few year ago I had it and it ruined Christmas) so in a way its good that its going around school now so hopefully it will have don't the rounds by Christmas. My dd's have not been sick for 3 years (though dd1 had a bug earlier this year but was just wretching), I know we cant keep escaping it and i'm worried it will get us this year sad. I'm trying to stay calm but feel so anxious, at times I feel like i'm having a panic attack.

Dd2 has a hospital appointment tomorrow so has half the day off school but i'm not sure wheres worse for picking up a bug, the hospital or school?

DS1 was sent home from school on Monday feeling sick, he wasn't actually sick. DS2 now had downwards issues. Trying to console myself with the fact that it must be quite a mild bug. We spent half term with three friends 13 children (including my three) and on the Thursday one boy came down with a dodgy tummy (was up all night on the loo). On Sunday two more boys from the holiday were ill so assuming it is that same bug. Sigh. I really, really hate November. These things always strike in November.

Marne Wed 06-Nov-13 17:07:07

<hugs becki> sounds like its just one end ( fingers crossed ). It always seems to strike at our school in November.

Halloweenjunkie Wed 06-Nov-13 18:13:49

Thanks everykne. DH has recovered now. Seemed to be a 24 hour thing thankfully. I've bleached everything today, and have my fingers crossed that me and DD don't get it. I think that if we are bother still bug free by Friday morning we should be ok :-/

justmuddlingalongsomehow Sun 10-Nov-13 20:46:35

DS has gone to bed complaining of tummy ache and heart ache. Likely to be just wind but I am a mess. Anyone about to kick me up the bum?

Marne Mon 11-Nov-13 12:59:02

Only just seen this, hope your ds was ok, I have been having trouble sleeping for a few days ( because of the bug doing the rounds at school) ,the slightest noise from the dd's room and I panic.

monikar Mon 11-Nov-13 13:21:47

justmuddling how is DS today? Hope he is ok.

Marne I know what you mean about listening out for the children when there is sickness about. When DD was younger, if I heard her cough in the night I would be in a flap in case it progressed to vomiting. It's so hard isn't it?

justmuddlingalongsomehow Mon 11-Nov-13 14:30:49

Hi there. Thanks for asking - had a good night and ate chocolate spread for brekkie so I packed him off to school! Crossing everything. I HATE this time of year.

monikar Mon 11-Nov-13 14:48:08

justmuddling Oh that's good. On the plus side, when they get older there don't seem to be so many sickness bugs going round so it is not forever, even if it feels like it! When DD was at primary school there was always someone who had been sick. I was on constant red alert. She is 17 now and it is a rare occurrence for someone to be sick - it usually happens in an exam hall now if it does happen which brings on a load of questions with me saying to DD 'so where were you sitting in relation to the person who has been sick?'. You are right though, it is so much more common at this time of year.

pinkkoala Mon 11-Nov-13 18:12:52

I am so glad i have found this. You all sound like me. I go into a complete panic if dd, 8yrs old comes in from school and says so and so got sent home today being sick, i then question her asking were you near them, have you washed your hands, do you play with them. She now tells me to stop asking her.
all those with children around the same age as mine do you find they get the bug every year, do you as a mum find you get it everytime. I so dread this time of year.
Can you prevent it spreading and can i take anything just in case i feel sick.

Marne Mon 11-Nov-13 18:50:22

My dd1 (almost 10) seems to get it once a year, though last year she wasn't actually sick (was retching), she seems to have the phobia too and will try her best not to be sick.

Dd2 is almost 8 and has not been sick for almost 3 years (which worries me more as she must be due her turn), I put it down to her having ASD and putting everything in her mouth (seems to have built up a good immune system), i'm extra anxious about her getting sick though because last time she was sick she was very sick and we ended up in A&E with dehydration.

You can buy 'motilium' (domperidone) from boots and most chemists now, it does help and I have used it quite a few times when I have had a bad stomach. I don't catch it every time they are ill but seem to get it more times than dh, when the dd's were tiny we all got it at the same time but that's the only time in almost 10 years.

monikar Tue 12-Nov-13 13:08:02

pink I used to find when DD was junior school age that she would get the bug each year and sometimes I got it too, but not always. It is this time of year that it happens though. As I said upthread when your DC are older you will be ok (ish) at this time of year, but you will dread exam time - not just because of the exam stress but because this is now the new 'season' for me. It's hard isn't it?

Marne does this motilium stop you feeling sick or actually stop you being sick?

devilinside Tue 12-Nov-13 14:01:35

I find the Motilium does prevent vomiting, but you might have to take more than the dose (I had to take four overnight, last time a caught the dreaded bug) DS had a mild bug on Sun, off his food, complaining of tummy ache, but it didn't turn into anything, prob like Marne says, from shoving everything in his gob (he also has ASD).

I do think ASD kids are less likely to succumb to noro as they are far less social. DS doesn't have any friends so very few playdates or parties. Whenever my DC have had bugs in the past, it has always been 2days after a playdate, party or softplay

Marne Wed 13-Nov-13 21:47:23

I agree, I often take 2 or 3 tablets if I feel really sick, seems to flush it out the other end though ( which is easier to deal with ).

My dd's rarely go on play dates or parties, we stay away from soft play and if we go out at the weekend it's usually to somewhere outdoors ( so no crowded places with people breathing over each other ), luckily the dd's don't like busy places, I'm quite pleased they don't like doing all the Christmas activities ( other than dd1 who will go to the school disco ), we don't visit Santa or go to the cinema.

Marne Thu 14-Nov-13 17:19:37

Please tell me to calm down and I will be ok?

DD and I had one of those little cheese cakes (crappy ones from asda in little pots), mine tasted a bit odd but I carried on eating, couldn't eat it all, dd ate hers and then asked for what I had left, when she tasted it she said it didn't taste like hers. I think it was off, the bb4 date is the 20th but it deffently tasted sour and horrid. I will be ok wont I? <panic>

devilinside Fri 15-Nov-13 13:41:01

You'll be fine, seriously. off milk is unlikely to cause food poisoning and those things contain so many additives they would probably last for years.

monikar Fri 15-Nov-13 15:25:24

Yes, I agree with devil these puddings have so many preservatives they are unlikely to make you ill. How do you feel today?

ulsterfry Fri 15-Nov-13 16:38:06

So glad to find this thread. My DH makes me feel I'm a complete freak for getting panicky about vomiting. He thinks it's no big deal. Already we have had a stomach bug twice in the house this season, my DH and DD. My DD even had to be hospitalised with severe dehydration. I'm so terrified of anyone else getting ill. Is this motilium available to buy over the counter in boots? Does it really stop you being sick?

Marne Fri 15-Nov-13 20:22:06

I'm fine after the dodgy cheese cake, felt sick for a hour or 2 but probably because I was anxious about it making me ill.

Marne Fri 15-Nov-13 20:23:18

Ulsterfly, you can get it in boots but you have to ask for it over the counter, I get it in my local chemist or boots.

ulsterfry Fri 15-Nov-13 20:35:30

Thank you Marne! I will pay a visit tomorrow. Would be good to keep some on hand.

Newcurtainsplease Fri 15-Nov-13 21:00:50

I think I am finally ready to join you. Am not sure if I am a classic emetophobe as I don't mind being sick myself at all. I just have huge panics when I see or hear about other people as I get so worried that we will catch it.

I rarely ever get sick, my mum thinks I only ever had 1 bug growing up so I was never sick until I discovered alcohol! So far the children have only had 2 bugs each but I am still scared!

One of the things I completely hate is when I hear other mums trying to get kids to eat more. I am sat there thinking why? Why force food into them when they don't want it? I was in a cafe the other day and a young girl said she had a tummy ache. Mum forced her to eat her lunch and guess what, she threw it all up.

Sorry for rambling, I just want to join you!

monikar Sat 16-Nov-13 11:37:41

Marne pleased you are ok, that is a relief smile .

Newcurtains and Ulsterfly Welcome smile - everyone on here understands so feel free to unload.

ulsterfry Sun 17-Nov-13 21:07:00

Also for some reason I can deal with the daytime sickness not too bad, it's when my DCs be sick in the nighttime that I can feel myself getting panicky and unable to cope.

ephemeralfairy Mon 18-Nov-13 14:15:06

Had a horrible dream about being sick last night, and felt very queasy all morning. Feeling a bit better now but I hate how this thing controls me.

Pawprint Mon 18-Nov-13 16:15:32

Ugh, I am feeling the dread sink in - just the thought of Winter vomiting bug brings me out in panic sad

I'm not as bad as I was - I forced myself to stay in the house when dh had vomiting bug. Usually, I would either send him out or I would run out. Now, despite feeling horrible panic, I can cope with being in the house.

I do find myself ruminating torturing myself about seeing people be sick in the past. I get particularly upset remember a boy at my primary school being sick.

Marne Mon 18-Nov-13 16:15:37

I'm better during the day, night times are scary (which is why at the weekends I have been sleeping during the day to catch up on sleep).

I'm always dreaming (having nightmares about it) which makes me feel ill the next day. This morning people were talking about stomach bugs in the playground (someone said they had a cold but thank god its not a stomach bug and then went into great detail about when their whole family had it), I felt ill all morning, have tried to take my mind off of it by walking the dog and doing the house work.

Dancergirl Mon 18-Nov-13 21:27:25

Hello all, hope everyone is managing to stay bug-free!

Does anyone know how much noro there is around so far this year and whereabouts in the country?

As far as I know there isn't much around here, normally there's a message in our school newsletter if a few dc have had it.

My dds are 12, 10 and 6 and we've been really lucky so far. They've stayed bug free for a good few years. Are some children immune? I heard that some blood groups are immune?

Marne Mon 18-Nov-13 21:28:47

I am trying jar to watch 'I'm a celeb' whilst the do the eating challenge, I hate it but its kind of like exposure therapy ( watching people retch and almost throw up).

Dd1 is in bed with tummy ache and I am trying not to panic, she hasn't been anywhere all weekend so couldn't have caught a bug ( that's what I am telling myself and dd ). I'm counting down the days until the end of term, when we can close the doors and keep the dd's in until Christmas.

justmuddlingalongsomehow Mon 18-Nov-13 21:30:37

Marne - I'm really struggling watching this challenge too - usually its not too bad but this one is hideous.

monikar Tue 19-Nov-13 11:01:40

I watched the challenge too - I find it difficult to watch people retching as it starts me off. This one was just awful though.

Marne how is DD today? Hope she is ok.

BabyHaribo Tue 19-Nov-13 13:24:53

Can I join you please?

This past weekend has been my worst nightmare. DS 22 months started vomiting on Friday evening and continued most of the night. I felt SO panicky and anxious. He just wanted mummy cuddles and I felt awful that I didn't instinctively want to comfort my poorly child sad

I then had the anxious wait to see if DH and I were going to catch it. Sure enough 48 hours later we were both vomiting. I don't like being sick but for me the worst thing is seeing/hearing others being ill.

I have been an emetophobe for a long time but since I had DS it's affected me a lot more. Pre DS I would avoid places where there may be drunk people, avoid ill people and if DH was ill he would stay away from me. It's much harder now as I have to look after DS.

After events like these do you keep replaying the sights and sounds of it all? I just can't stop thinking about it. When I went out this morning I was even thinking "last time we used this buggy was just before it all started etc"

Urgh it's horrible. Hope everyone is remaining bug free.

monikar Tue 19-Nov-13 13:39:44

Baby Welcome smile.

What an awful time you have been having - really hope you are all feeling better now. I have been worse since I became a mother. With small children, you hear about so many more bugs going around, you are on constant red alert. It is so hard isn't it?

Marne Tue 19-Nov-13 15:54:26

Welcome Baby, so sorry you had to go through this sad it does get a bit easier as the dc's get older (it happens less often and they learn to get it in the bowl so less likely to pass it on), it is hard when your child is sick and they want you to hug them (I hate it and I try not to have much contact). For me I can now cope better when the dc's are sick but the main fear is me getting it, I would not be as bad looking after the dd's if I knew I wasn't going to get it.

Dd1 seems ok this morning, she gets tummy aches when she is anxious, she has been a bit upset as her best friend is off school (luckily with a cold and not a tummy bug) and she is missing him sad.

We have just had a letter about a school trip, I hate the idea of a school trip during bug season (all those kids packed onto a small coach, breathing over each other).

WillowKnicks Tue 19-Nov-13 19:30:28

Hi, another new one here wanting to join in please.

I'm like newcurtains as I don't mind being sick myself. I don't like it obviously, but think I handle it better than a lot of people without any sickness phobia. Luckily I can also cope with my children, I think concern & love for them just about forces me to hold the bowl & be sympathetic...just about...

What I can't abide is the thought of hearing, seeing, smelling (God forbid!!!!) anyone else being sick & the thought of being trapped anywhere (eg. a plane) & not being able to get well away. If I hear of anyone being sick in a certain situation, then I dwell on it for yearsages & then feel anxious for evermore about that certain situation.

If I think someone is going to be ill near me, my heart pounds, I shake from head to foot & come out in a cold sweat & really illogically I feel really angry with them blush

BabyHaribo Tue 19-Nov-13 19:35:29

Thanks it is hard. Other people just don't understand. My mums said to me
'Oh you poor things - oh well we've all been there'

I felt like saying no you haven't been here cos its so awful for me!! I've told her previously about the phobia but the response I got was 'don't be silly no likes vomit' hmm

Hope your dd continues ok Marne. Although having a little one means they can't control direction of the sick etc at last they also can't say 'I feel sick' which I think will bring me loads of anxiety!

Marne Tue 19-Nov-13 20:02:48

I agree with the 'saying 'I feel sick', its the waiting and not knowing if they will and when they will, last time dd1 was ill my mum was here, dd1 suddenly turned green so I dragged her towards the loo where she was retching, I then sent her up to her room with a bowl (on her own), my mum told me I was cruel and should go and sit with her (I was shaking and didn't want dd1 to see me so anxious), eventually I went and sat with her and luckily she was ok.

My mum is quite understanding, last time I was sick she came and sat with me whilst dh picked up a prescription from boots for anti sickness drugs.

Newcurtainsplease Tue 19-Nov-13 20:48:43

WillowKnicks you sound exactly the same as me! I feel quite reassured that I am not the only one.

BabyHaribo Tue 19-Nov-13 21:30:17

Wow willowkicks and newcurtains I am exactly the samegrin

I don't want to be sick - who does! But it's seeing/hearing/smelling others that's the worst. And the FEAR and ANXIETY of someone feeling unwell who may or may not vomit!

Dancergirl Tue 19-Nov-13 21:37:24

Funny how everyone feels it differently.

I too can't cope when my dc are sick, luckily for me not too often. But I am petrified of being sick myself. I've actually never vomited as an adult, the last time was aged about 10. I've felt nauseous many, many times and with it comes such a horrible fear I've felt at times (to my shame) that I would rather die than throw up sad I know that's awful thing to think.

monikar Wed 20-Nov-13 09:24:18

Willow Welcome smile .

I know what you mean about being trapped in a situation where someone is being sick. I was once on a flight to Spain when a little boy in the row opposite was sick continuously all the way there. I could hear it, but worse was the smell. I was so anxious and upset - poor little chap couldn't help it but it made me feel awful.

Marne Wed 20-Nov-13 10:12:12

Dancegirl, I am the same, if I feel sick then I often think ' I would rather be dead than be sick' sad .

Dancergirl Wed 20-Nov-13 11:01:50

<waves to marne>

It's comforting to know we're not on our own.

Newcurtainsplease Wed 20-Nov-13 11:20:31

Waves to everyone
monikar The last flight I went on I spent the whole time panicking because I heard someone say they felt sick. It's getting to the stage now that I don't want to travel at all because I'm worried that someone will be ill. I'm considering seeing my GP about some kind of CBT, has anyone else done this?

Dancergirl Wed 20-Nov-13 11:27:30

new I've had CBT and for me it didn't work at all, sorry.

The jist of it was that the therapist wanted me to change my thinking of being sick from being 'terrifying' to 'unpleasant'. All fine in theory, doesn't work in practice.

Marne Wed 20-Nov-13 11:41:31

I have had CBT too with not much success, I do try and use CBT to calm myself down but doesn't really work, have also had hypnotherapy with no success at all, at the moment I use mindfulness techniques which help a little ( it's more about distracting your brain when you are anxious rather than trying to cure the phobia ), I think I have now excepted that this phobia is not going to go away and I just need to do my best to cope with the situation, I am not as anxious as I used to be ( used to think about being sick every day but now it's more of a winter phobia, not half as bad during the summer ), I keep trying to tell myself that its not worth getting worked up about until it actually happens and then I need to focus on the fact it won't last for ever ( even though it feels like its going on for ever if the kids or I get ill ).

Stomach bug rife in DSs' school right now, ten off from one class (not the same as any of mine in). Terrified. We're going away this weekend to Cardiff to the Dr Who museum. Terrified one of them is going to get it.

IcouldstillbeJoseph Wed 20-Nov-13 21:12:17

Right! I'm going to have to join in too!
I'm identifying so much with all on this. I hate feeling sick so much I would rather have anything else! I was in ITU with severe pneumonia when pregnant and said to DH through my oxygen mask that it was a million times better than morning sickness. He thinks I'm a loony! He hasn't been sick in the time we've been together but I dread it. The thought if him being sick is awful - even though he's not that bothered.
I have 2 v young DC and DS has had 2 bugs that I've had. This time of year is awful

ProudAS Wed 20-Nov-13 22:24:11

Can anyone recommend over the counter medication for sickness?

Joining in too. Have had this phobia for over 40 years, though it is much more manageable since I've been on a small dose of a SSRI drug.

Marne Thu 21-Nov-13 10:24:19

Proud - you can get Motilium in boots and most chemists (but you have to ask for it over the counter). I get it from my local chemist and have bought them online (but beware if you buy online they may question why you want them if buying more than one packet).

monikar Thu 21-Nov-13 11:18:56

Welcome to all the newcomers smile.

Becky ten in one class! I remember those days when DD was at junior school and the bugs would sweep through. She didn't always get it though, so fingers crossed for you that yours escape. If they are not in the same class then the odds are on your side.

alexle Thu 21-Nov-13 14:53:33

Please can anyone help. My little boy has been really sick this morning. My husband has come home from work to help. I'm hiding downstairs at the moment. Feeling so anxious I don't know what to do with myself. I can hear Ds calling for me but I just can't go. Feel so ashamed and guilty. Terrified of him being sick again and me and husband getting ill.

IcouldstillbeJoseph Thu 21-Nov-13 14:59:06

How old is your DS? How long till your DH home?
Holding your hand here - I know the anxiety

monikar Thu 21-Nov-13 15:28:09

Everyone on here understands the anxiety. The best thing to do to prevent the bug going round everyone is to wash the hands and faces of everyone in the house. This gets rid of the droplets and prevents it from being passed on. If you do this, then the great likelihood is that you won't get it. I usually do this with baby wipes as I can then throw them away.

Really hope he feels better soon.

flowers

Marne Thu 21-Nov-13 16:33:45

<hugs> alexle sad ,how old is your DS? chances are if he hasn't been sick since this morning he probably wont again, hopefully he will fall asleep soon and sleep it off (this is what my dd2 used to do), I always keep my dd's in their rooms when they are sick then at least its contained in one room, I always throw away any bedding that has been sick on, bleach any surfaces (hot soapy water and/or bleach is better than anything else), make sure your Dh is washing his hands too. A lot of stomach bugs such as rotrovirus (sp) adults are more likely to be immune too (you tend to get them a couple times as a child before building up immunity).

If you can get to a chemist you could buy yourself some anti sickness meds (which I linked too in a post above), I always take these when my dd's are ill and I have started feeling poorly and they do work, I took them when dd2 shared a bug with me a few years ago and I got through it without being sick (though I felt poorly but not half as bad).

alexle Thu 21-Nov-13 17:55:22

Hello everyone. Thank you all so much for replying and for being so kind. Poor Ds has carried on being sick through the day and now has diarrhoea. My husband is at home with him and I have gone out to get some supplies. I'm just walking around really anxious as I can't face going home which makes me feel terribly guilty. I have just bought some mot ilium Marne, thank you. To top it all off my phone is running out if battery too. My Ds is 2.5 and doesn't understand what's happening poor thing.

BabyHaribo Thu 21-Nov-13 18:05:10

Oh alexle you poor thing! That was me last weekend so you have ALL my sympathy. It really really hard but it will be over soon.

We are all better following the bug although DS who has never been a good eater seems to be retching on certain foods or having too much in his mouth which is not good for anxiety levels grin.
I'm also 6 weeks pregnant so ms has set in and feel nauseous all morning. It's making me constantly obsess about bugs how to avoid them and just reminding me of last weekend.

10 children sick in one class! That's horrible fingers crossed for your DC.

Does anyone know if you can buy antiviral hand wash/gel? Everything I was looking at today was antibacterial but most of these bugs are viruses.

Marne Thu 21-Nov-13 18:23:56

I think you can get the anti viral hand gel online but not sure where, anti bac is a waste of time sad.

Fingers crossed for you alexle, hopefully you and your dh wont catch it but if you do you have the motilium to hand, hopefully your ds will be asleep when you get back and will be feeling better in the morning.

Marne Thu 21-Nov-13 19:00:06
alexle Thu 21-Nov-13 19:10:39

Thank you Marne xx

Dancergirl Thu 21-Nov-13 23:24:18

alexle poor you, I really sympathise. The anxiety is awful. Please don't feel guilty, we all can't help feeling like we do. I bet you're a great mum to your ds.

How is he?

BabyHaribo Fri 22-Nov-13 07:25:47

How is your DS alexle? Hope you all had a reasonable night

Marne Fri 22-Nov-13 08:20:37

Hope your ds is feeling better this morning alexle?

alexle Fri 22-Nov-13 09:11:21

Thank you so much everyone for your support. He was fine overnight and had some breakfast this morning. I on the other hand feel awful emotionally. It just feels that whatever I try my phobia gets worse. It was fairly well controlled until I had my Ds and he had his first bug. I have just started seeing a dr who specialises in treating this phobia and have an appointment on Monday. I just feel like it's an insurmountable problem at the moment. Has anyone had any success with treatment? I'm sorry to be so negative and again thank you so much for helping me get through yesterday.
Baby haribo, I'm sorry you had such a bad time last weekend and glad you are all better now. Congratulations on your pregnancy too. Xx

Alexle I hope you are ok. It's a horrid, horrid feeling the anxiety. I would swap it for anxiety about anything else - spiders will do. I love spiders. I'd rather be terrified of spiders than sickness bugs.

I'm still on high alert with bug going around the school but all three DSs went happily to school today dressed as pirates as it is 'pirate day'.

alexle Fri 22-Nov-13 09:23:27

Thanks Becky. I 'm with you on the spiders! Hope your boys enjoy their pirate day. X

Marne Fri 22-Nov-13 09:59:56

Alexle, I have had quite a lot of treatment. (CBT, exposure therapy, hypnotherapy and mindfulness ), the only one that has made a slight difference is the mindfulness as its more about controlling your anxiety rather than curing the phobia. My phobia has gotten worse since having children, I guess when I was single and childless it was much easier to avoid but having kids means at some point you will have to deal with it happening ( so then we re on edge all the time waiting for it to happen ).

alexle Fri 22-Nov-13 10:40:18

Thanks Marne. I have had hypnotherapy and cbt too. I have also tried many of the 'quick fix' phobia cure things advertised on the internet. This latest dr I am seeing uses cbt too. He is based at the maudsley but I am seeing him privately. I can't really afford it but I'm desperate so will manage it somehow. I'll keep you posted if it helps. That's great about the mindfulness helping. There's a course locally starting in January so will look into it. I think I've also accepted that I will always have this to a degree but hopefully I can learn to manage the fear and anxiety better. Xx

Dancergirl Fri 22-Nov-13 11:57:47

This is my thinking about treatment although this is just my personal view: I believe that, deep down, I don't want to lose the phobia because the phobia is stopping me from being sick if that makes sense. You can have all the treatment in the world but if you still want to hang on the fear, even subconsciously, it won't make a difference.

Marne Fri 22-Nov-13 17:11:53

I think your spot on Dancegirl smile.

I went private for hypnotherapy and CBT after having a horrible experience with nhs and exposure therapy although I do believe exposure therapy could work if done correctly. When I am very anxious I will try anything (which is why I went private as I was desperate for a quick solution, sadly it didn't work).

A few weeks ago (when I posted here) I was sick due to medication, I was petrified but I am now try to focus on the fact 'it was not that bad, I did not die and a few hours after I felt fine', I keep trying to tell myself that but I still feel petrified of being sick again sad, I don't think I will ever get rid of the phobia but I hope one day I will be able to manage it better.

alexle Fri 22-Nov-13 18:13:53

Yes, I can really see the sense in that dancergirl. My last therapist said that no one can control vomiting and that this misconception is maintaining my phobia. She tried to help me to drop a lot of the behaviors or rituals that made me feel safer. I do think you get to the point when you are almost afraid of not being afraid in case it leads to more vomiting.

Marne it sounds like you managed that brilliantly but i'm so sorry that you are still feeling like this afterwards hmm

BabyHaribo Fri 22-Nov-13 19:28:23

If anyone is interested I just bought some antiviral hand foam from boots. Not sure how good it will be but worth a try.

Dancergirl Fri 22-Nov-13 22:27:43

marne that's a really depressing thought that you still find it terrifying after being sick. As I haven't actually been sick for over 30 years, I think it's the fear of the unknown with me. Sometimes I think if I was actually sick I might stop being so scared.

Can I ask you a question about when you were sick - did you 'know' it was going to happen and did you manage to get to the loo/a bowl? Sorry if TMI. I've felt nauseous many, many times over the years, sometimes extremely so but it hasn't happened. So I don't know how it feels to know you're actually going to be sick.

Marne Sat 23-Nov-13 08:51:15

That's ok, I don't mind you asking. I had a mouth abscess and was in pain all day and feeling sick on and off but I had booked tickets for a show with dsd and didn't want to let her down, by the evening I was in agony and my mum kindly took me to A&E, I was given liquid morphine as I can not take codeine, the nurse also gave me a anti sickness med, I was feeling a little queezy but not sick, later they gave me codeine and told me I should be fine as I had been given the anti sickness med earlier, I took the codeine (as was still in a lot of pain) alongside the antibiotic without thinking that my stomach was empty (apart from the morphine I hadn't ate or drunk much all day), mum drived me home but five minutes before we were home I started feeling sick, I didn't say anything to my mum as I thought I could control it. As soon as I got out the car I started retching (whilst hammering on the door for dh to let me in), managed to make it to the kitchen sink (dh was moaning at me for not going to the loo), I was shaking and crying, retched a few times and then brought up all the meds I had taken. TBH it wasn't that ba as my stomach had no food in it so didn't have the taste of vomit in my mouth just the taste of morphine. I then went up to bed but continued to shake for an hour until I knew I was not going to be sick again.

I went through most of school without being sick (probably from the age of 11 until I was 20, never got drunk enough to be sick and never caught bugs, I was sick once whilst pregnant with dd1 and then caught a bug when dd1 was 4 years old, have had a couple bugs since. Being sick (catching bugs) has made me worse, I can deal with the dd's being sick its the fact that I might catch it that makes me anxious, I can clean up after them (although I hate it I have to do it to make sure it has been cleaned up properly to reduce the chance of the whole house getting it).

A year or 2 ago it was effecting me every day, stopping me from going out, stopping me from using public transport and stopping me from allowing the dd's to do things such as school clubs (I just wanted them to be at school when they had to be and then have them safe at home). I can now go out more (as long as I have hand wipes etc..), I still don't like taking the girls shopping at the weekend in case they catch something, dd1 has done a few school clubs and has friends over and we are thinking of flying (going abroad) for the first time next year. Although it still effects me a lot its not as bad as it was.

I do think my phobia is quite extreme (as it does effect my everyday life) but i'm sure there must be people who have it worse.

pinkkoala Sat 23-Nov-13 10:15:11

Hand holding needed my dd 8 yrs has been in my bed alnight and was sick at half 5, then 7 then at 9. Everytime managed to use the bowl, i am so worried that as she was so close to me last night that i will get it, i am such a horrible mum. i dread being sick and find it hard to properly comfort her. Does mottilium work if you take them before you know if you will get it.

justmuddlingalongsomehow Sat 23-Nov-13 10:21:27

I'm here pinkkoala. I'm sorry your dd is feeling so rubbish... Good news it was all in the bowl. Use bleach and wash hands. get her back into her own bed and wash your sheets.

I have this stuff called virusolve for when dcs are ill which is uncommon fortunately. I got it from the germwarfare website. It was recommended on here by someone on an emet thread (I recognise Marne from there but have nc'ed since those days). Knowing I have it in the cupboard helps and last time ds was sick I cleaned the bathroom from top to toe with it and nobody else caught it. I am alone with dcs so it does help.

How is she doing now? Very possible that after 2 v's that will be it for her. Really hope so.

justmuddlingalongsomehow Sat 23-Nov-13 10:24:06

Sorry 3 v's... still hope that's it.

pinkkoala Sat 23-Nov-13 10:49:43

She is asleep on the sofa, had a sip of lemonade an hour ago, i am hoping and praying we might get a bit of a break. I have stripped the bed, bleached the bowl, and toilet.

justmuddlingalongsomehow Sat 23-Nov-13 10:58:40

Well done - you are facing your worst fears do be kind to yourself. thanksbrew

Door handles ate something I always do too.

pinkkoala Sat 23-Nov-13 11:47:34

Thought it was too good to be true, after 2 hrs she has been just a bit of liquid sick. She has slept for an hr.

Marne Sat 23-Nov-13 16:24:16

pinkkoala- you can take Mollitium now if it makes you feel better (helps with the anxiety) but I would just take it if you start feeling poorly, it can take a hour to work though, I always take 2 tablets when I first feel ill and then another 4 hours latter. Fingers crossed your dd stops being sick soon, well done to her for using a bowl though, makes things much easier and less likely to infect everyone else. I think I read somewhere last year that the virus can live on fabrics for up to 18 days but can only survive on surfaces for a couple hours. Hope your dd feels better soon xx

alexle Sat 23-Nov-13 17:57:04

Hello pinkkoala. I'm so sorry that you're going through this. My Ds has been ill in the last couple of days and everyone on here has been so kind and supportive. You are not alone and I will be thinking of you. It sounds like you are doing really well in a very difficult situation. I hope you dd is feeling better soon. Xx

pinkkoala Sat 23-Nov-13 21:35:47

She hasnt been sick for 8 hrs, but has slept all day, is this normal for a bug. I am still very anxious.

justmuddlingalongsomehow Sat 23-Nov-13 22:24:08

Sounds very normal. I expect she'll be much better in the morning. smile

pinkkoala Sun 24-Nov-13 07:32:37

Do you always get the bug after your childrdn have had it, i am still anxious amd havent eaten much just in case.
dd slept last nite and hasnt been sick since noon yesterday. She feels very dizzy though is that normal.

justmuddlingalongsomehow Sun 24-Nov-13 07:55:19

Can you give her some squash and rice cakes? She's probably very empty. All sounds fairly standard to me. I would keep her off school tomorrow too.

And I have NEVER caught a bug off dcs. Touch wood!!

Marne Sun 24-Nov-13 10:28:29

Sounds normal to me, she will be feeling dizzy and week as her tummy has been empty for a day and she will be a bit dehydrated, you can give her flat coke (it will help rehydrate her) and try a bit of toast.

I don't always catch it off my dc's and the times I have caught it was after dd2 covered her whole bedroom in V, dh has only caught it once (that was the time we all had it).

Keep eating if you can or you will feel poorly because of being empty, eat foods that are low in fat (bugs like fat) so thinks like chicken, veg and salad, if you take motilium it before eating it makes food pass through your gut quicker but the best thing is to drink lots and lots of water as it will push any nasties through your body. Fingers crossed you wont catch it xxxxx

Marne Sun 24-Nov-13 10:30:08

oh, my hand gel came yesterday but dd2 got to it before me and has emptied the contents on her bedroom floor angry so will have to order some more, on the plus side, dd2's room is probably virus free smile.

pinkkoala Sun 24-Nov-13 11:15:01

She is bit brighter today, had slice and half of toast cut into shapes with cookie cutters, and has had one episode of the runs. I will keep heq at home tomorrow as our school is 48hr ruling. Can you lot beleive that i actually work in a private care home with my phobia, i sound really silly about this phobia. How are all you doing. I hate this time of year, bring on summer.

Marne Sun 24-Nov-13 12:31:59

Glad she's feeling better pink, I might be getting a job in a care home after Christmas (though I will be out of the way in the kitchen), my mum has worked in care homes for 15 years and has only had one norovirus outbreak (most of the staff got it but my mum didn't), she says she rarely has to deal with V but often has to deal with the other end.

I hate this time of year, I do think we have been lucky this year, winter seemed to start early last year and after a wet summer it seemed to be winter for most of the year. I always hope for a really cold winter (in hope it is too cold for the bugs to spread), not sure if that is the case though.

pinkkoala Sun 24-Nov-13 14:24:45

Hope you get the job marne, i am a care assistant working with elderly frail residents some with dementia, some are there for respite some of them it is palliative, but i enjoy my job and get quite attached to the residents. I deal with the otheq end alot of the time. I have just had a phone call asking me to do a night shift tonight to cover someone ringing in sick. i said no, i am on an early shift on tuesday 8 til 2, i have a childminder to take dd to school when i am on an early.
my dd has had another episode of the squits just now, i can cope with that end beta.

Twighlightsparkle Sun 24-Nov-13 16:18:52

Hi everyone, I haven't been on here for a while, hope everyone is ok, pink hope you escaped.

I'm in full stress mode, my daughter is going into hospital tomorrow for 5 days she has a rare form of chrones which affects her oesophagitis.

It's a general children's ward, so there will be vomiting bug kids, there always are!

Aaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh.

monikar Sun 24-Nov-13 16:47:40

Twighlight hope everything goes well for your DD tomorrow and for you.

Marne Sun 24-Nov-13 17:26:37

Good luck for your dd Twighlight, I hate going anywhere near hospitals at this time of the year but any appointments the dd's have seem to land in November and December, we have a appointment on Tuesday for orthotics for dd2 and I am awaiting a appointment to have some teeth out in hospital (am dreading it), hope you and your dd manage to stay bug free.

autumnsmum Mon 25-Nov-13 08:43:33

Hi so glad to have found this thread I always thought it as only me .now it is winter I am terrified the children will vomit .the fear started with me three years ago when. Moro went through the family twice .last winter dd2 who was three had five bouts of vomiting so I'm so scared for this year . Dd2 has autism and is now at a special school so hopefully she will catch fewer bugs .marne I recognize you from sn board

Marne Mon 25-Nov-13 11:43:33

< waves to autum > I always hope because dd2 is not very sociable and has built up quite a good immune system from shoving everything in her mouth that she will be less likely to get bugs, she used to get sick quite a lot ( at nursery and first 2 years of school) ,we had a bad year where she was sick with scarlet fever ,chicken pox and then noro ( as soon as she had a high temp she would be sick ) but since then she has been sick less times than her sister, I feel that we have been too lucky and this year it will get us sad.

Dd1 was moaning again last night about feeling ill and she looked pale, I was brave and sat with her and eventually she went to sleep, she seems fine this morning and I feel ill ( due to the anxiety of dd1 feeling poorly), dd1 seems to be doing this most nights at the moment, not quite sure what's wrong with her or if she's just playing up but it's making me extra anxious.

autumnsmum Mon 25-Nov-13 11:56:17

Marne my dd2 is sick whenever she gets a temperature it happened with flu and tonsillitis as well as a stomach bug lady winter

pinkkoala Mon 25-Nov-13 17:29:27

My dd is much beta today but school dont want her back til weds due to 48hr rule. She is eating and playing almost normal now
do any of you know what the incubation period is, i am still anxious.
hope everyone is ok and bug free at the mo.

autumnsmum Tue 26-Nov-13 14:09:50

Does anyone else have any weird rituals around their phobia dd2 had an awful stomach bug last winter and I haven't worn the dress I was wearing that day since .is ridiculous but I feel I'm tempting fate if I wear it

Marne Tue 26-Nov-13 15:42:47

I am the same Autum, also when I was a child and was sick after eating a certain food I could never touch that food again.

Pink, glad your dd is feeling better, incubation period is anything from 12-48 hours (depending on the bug), I would have thought if you were going to get it you would have by now.

BabyHaribo Tue 26-Nov-13 17:49:10

Yes I do Autumn.

Do you also feel that however sympathetic your oh is they can never truly understand hmm. DH is sympathetic to a point but I think he feels at the end of the day how can vomit be that bad!

autumnsmum Tue 26-Nov-13 18:21:06

Thankfully oh has agoraphobia and depression indeed we are a good pair so he understands fear and panic .mil less sympathetic she's always telling me things are in the air and can be caught anywhere which is not how to cheer me up

Worst nightmare is here. Sickness bug sweeping through the school and I thought we were going to get away with it but 2am last night DS2 copiously sick, but only twice sad

DH in London today so I am coping on my own. I seem to go into hyper cheerful mode in these situations even when inside I am panicking. I guess that is good because then he doesn't pick up on how I really feel. I can cope with him being sick, I was able to be good mum last night, sitting with him, rubbing his back etc but inside I am panicking about me getting it.

I feel very tired today sad

autumnsmum Wed 27-Nov-13 13:32:47

Bendy legs that sounds dreadful well done

DH has just texted from London to say he feels sick and is going to come home when he feels better. I'm really starting to panic now. What if he can't get home? What if I come down with it while he's ill? I just won't be able to cope I know I won't. Or if one of the other DSs get it at the same time. It is just my worst nightmare coming true.

I hate sickness bugs so much they are evil.

I don't understand why DH feels ill less than 12 hours after DS2 was sick. Surely it can't be that quick??? I thought symptoms came out 24-48 hours after infection.

He's informed me that he's braving the tube. So worried about him. We live 3 hours by train from London.

alexle Wed 27-Nov-13 16:32:12

Hi Becky
I'm really sorry to hear this. It sounds like you managed brilliantly last night with your Ds and all day on your own too. Hang in there. Your husband may not get ill. Perhaps he ate something that disagreed with him and it will pass? If your Ds hasn't been ill again hopefully that's it and I 'm sure you have cleaned everything and have washed hands lots etc. and that will help to stop you and your other dcs getting it. You are doing great. I will keep checking in this evening and will be thinking of you. Xx

Oh Alexle thank you so much you are so thoughtful. DH is now on the train, he survived the tube. I haven't heard anything for an hour or so (he says he's sat in a seat near the toilet just in case) so I take that as good news, perhaps he is having a snooze, or very bad news (too ill to text me). I have calmed down a bit since he first texted me. I was shaking and really panicky. I have been cleaning and my hands are completely dry and smell of that alcohol hand stuff. I'm just so glad that touch wood I feel fine at the moment. I'm sick of this time of year though. I'm sick of facebook and seeing all the news about this bug from local friends. There was one last year at about the same time and we escaped that one. I had assumed the same would happen again. It's just so tiring going through this every year, isn't it? It is reassuring to know I'm not the only one. I am petrified of being sick, so so scared. Oh well. Keep Battling On.

alexle Wed 27-Nov-13 17:04:24

That's good news Becky. Hopefully it's a good sign if your dh hasn't been sick yet. Your Ds might not have had a bug if he was only sick twice and is alright now. It could be one of those random kid things that throw us into a total panic.
I know exactly what you mean about Facebook and so on. It makes me so anxious but I can't stop myself from looking. I have also done that on the health board here. It's like I'm torturing myself! I totally understand about the anxious 'what if' thoughts spiralling. I know it's really hard, (if not impossible at times), but try to keep busy. Is there a friend you could chat to on the phone? Your husband will be home soon. When I was having a nightmare last week I was really anxious about my husband getting sick and what I would do. He said that even if he was he could still look after our Ds as he doesn't feel the same way as I do about sick. This really helped me as I forget that not everyone sees sickness as a catastrophic event! Sending you positive thoughts. This will be over soon Xx

DH is nearly home, less than an hour away and he says he feels just about ok. So he hasn't been sick on the train. I have been keeping busy (busy printing photographs for college project). DS3 is keeping me entertained with his cute banter at the moment too.

My worst nightmare is that DH and I sick at the same time and can't look after the children. My DH copes with sick far better than me but he still takes to his bed! It has happened once since we had children and luckily we were both ill at night time (I wasn't actually sick because I'm sure this is quite common amongst people who are phobic I actually find it very hard to be sick as I get into such a panicky state that I think my mind takes over matter - but that feeling of impending doom is so horrid).

pinkkoala Wed 27-Nov-13 18:15:15

Becky i understand how you feel, having been there with dd on the wkend and still having cramps and quite loose. I am terrified of these bugs, hate this time of year. Dd hate it this time last year as well. I get through loads of domestos and dettol.

My boys have their own bathroom and it stinks of domestos. I connect that smell with illness. Yuck. I keep telling myself during these crises: this too will pass. It does pass. I look back and shudder at these times but it does pass. This time next week perhaps it will all be over one way or another. At least it isn't Christmas. Hopefully this means we can have a Christmas without the fear of getting a bug.

pinkkoala Wed 27-Nov-13 19:00:00

I think exactly the same as you becky, hopefully we will have bug free xmas.

DH is back. He's going to bed soon I think. He hasn't been sick so perhaps all he needs is a good night's sleep. DS2 has eaten so he's on the mend. I think I am in for an evening by myself! I should make the most of it really and watch trashy TV. Fingers crossed for a quiet night.

Marne Wed 27-Nov-13 20:48:38

So sorry to hear this Becky, hope your Dh is ok and you don't get it. I am the same as you if I do get a bug I am hardly sick at all (takes a lot to make me actually sick, sometimes I am sick once or twice but rarely any more than that). I hope you are all better soon, try and think ahead (a few days time and it will all be over, hopefully you wont even get it). Hope you have a quiet night.

I'm on edge all the time waiting for the bug to sprig up at school, a few kids had after half term but the school sent out messages straight away to remind everyone about the 48 hour rule and this seemed to stop it spreading (which is great but probably means it will show its face again before Christmas).

alexle Wed 27-Nov-13 21:48:40

Hi Becky
Pleased to hear that your dh hasn't been ill and Ds is on the mend. Here's hoping for a quiet night for you and a better day tomorrow.
X

I'm off to bed soon. DS1 tells me he feels sick but we've just had a chat about 'expecting' to feel sick because its a bug in the house and actually feeling sick. He's so like me in many ways (a worrier) so I'm hoping its just that. Fingers crossed for a quiet night x

Bad night here, DS1 started at 11pm last night so he's off school today (and for 48 hours so until Monday in effect). DH sick this morning but he's now eating toast so think he's on the mend. DS2 is on the mend too but he woke up last night a few times with night terrors, which was quite scary (he has no memory of this today). So I'm very tired. I'm still fine. DS3 also still fine. This will pass.

Newcurtainsplease Thu 28-Nov-13 13:37:48

Oh Becky I feel for you. Hopefully you are through the worst of it now and fingers crossed you will all have immunity for the rest of the season (if that is how it works).

Devilinside thanks so much for the great link smile I dread getting Norovirus but now I'm not nearly so concerned.

Marne Thu 28-Nov-13 13:48:35

Oh no becky, I hope you and your other ds manage not to get it and the others are on the mend soon. I'm g testing even more anxious, there seems to be a lot of 'vomiting children' posts on my fb today ( have seen at least 4 ). Dd1 is on a school trip today which makes me anxious ( hopefully she's having a great time ). Counting down the days until the end of term, 3 weeks and one day to go ( fingers crossed we can make it ).

Hanging on in there here, everyone is gradually getting better. DS2 can go back to school tomorrow as it'll have been over 48 hours, DS1 still off. DH is doing the 'man flu' thing and just sitting watching TV all day (drives me mad sometimes, he's been fine since this morning).

Marne hope your DD is ok and has a good trip.

I do wonder if the immunity thing is true you know. A friend's little boy had a bug before half term, gave it to his dad and big sister so it was definitely a bug not food or anything else. And he was sick again last night presumably with the one going round the school right now. Surely he would be immune from the first time?

JulietMontague Thu 28-Nov-13 17:47:47

Hi can I join in? I was on here a bit last winter then stuck my head in the sand and avoided the v-word for a few months! I've got a DS (7) and DD (3). DD has been v-ing since Sunday night confused and has had diarrhoea since Tuesday. Dh & I have been taking turns to miss work to be with her. DH is being incredibly supportive and taking over the cleaning up etc but I still feel anxious and have barely eaten all week. I lie awake listening for DD and praying DS doesn't start with it. I bloody hate winter hmm

Hello Juliet I feel your pain. Every meal I have I think 'will I feel ill after this one' and then when I feel hungry I think 'thank you thank you!' But as time passes I feel more anxious 'it must get me tonight'. If it doesn't get me it will get DS3 for sure.

Marne Thu 28-Nov-13 19:29:45

I think immunity can be different for each person, some people will hold immunity for a year or more and some only for a few weeks, I know a few kids that seem to have 5 or 6 bugs a year and others that may have one a year (or even less), and then you get the ones who hardly ever get it.

Hope you are ok Becky, hopefully you will get through tonight without anyone v-ing and by the weekend you will all be bug free.

JulietMontague Thu 28-Nov-13 19:30:18

Hi Becky. I keep thinking DD must not be contagious as its been 4 days now but tonight DS shared her drink after she was sick so now I feel like I've got 3 days of panic to see if he gets it hmm it's relentless, I'm so tired of being anxious. I just want to look forward to Christmas but all I can think about is avoiding bugs! Hopefully you will get some respite soon!

alexle Thu 28-Nov-13 23:05:58

Thinking of all of you who are in the midst of a vomiting crisis. I think we can safely say that this phobia is bloody horrendous. I'm not glad that you are all having to deal with this too but glad to have you all to talk to. Xx

devilinside Thu 28-Nov-13 23:30:47

I think pre schoolers and babies can get rotavirus in addition to norovirus, which can result in them having multiple bugs each year, you become immune to rotavirus at some point as a young child but immunity to norovirus only lasts 3 months. Funny how this phobia has made me an expert in virology

Ha ha devillinside that's so true about being an expert. I used to work full time in publishing and ironically I was the in-house editor on a medical book about virology written by one the leading virologists in the UK, John Oxford (every time we get a flu epidemic he appears on TV). I have a copy. I should go seek it out and update myself on these matters!

DS1 was sick again once last night but nothing since then and DS2 back to school today. DS3 is still bug free. He's four and he's never had a sickness bug in his life. Perhaps he just has a strong immune system!

Newcurtainsplease Fri 29-Nov-13 10:36:53

Hope this thread isn't cursed! For the first time in ages ds was sick in the night. As my whole fear is around the uncertainty about getting ill in the first place I feel okay now! He is munching his way through a box of crackers now so I am hoping that that is it. Unfortunately though he had 3 duvets in bed last night and about 10 teddies so I have a lot of washing to do today!

Fluffycloudland77 Fri 29-Nov-13 10:39:46

Please don't use handgels, even anti viral ones.

Soap and water is what the nhs still advise.

justmuddlingalongsomehow Sat 30-Nov-13 16:44:31

Well, it's started at dcs school. Not their classes but 2 kids they're at breakfast club with went home feeling sick yesterday... At least neither of them actually v'ed at school. 3 off in my class too. Anxiety sky high. Ds has been saying he has tummy ache but bouncing around and playing quite happily - not the image of kids who went home yesterday pale and upset.

Crossing everything. 3 wks till Xmas hols.

pinkkoala Sat 30-Nov-13 18:02:17

Hope everyone is ok. My dd is fine now
I work in a private care home and heard today that another home in the area has norovirus amongst residents and staff and two residents have passed away. The eldely and the young are so vulnerable.

Marne Sat 30-Nov-13 20:01:21

Pink- this is why they should hurry up with a vaccine, must be horrid for the elderly and the people who have to care for them sad.

I'm glad the dd's school have already done the Christmas fair and Christmas Disco this year (much earlier than usual) as I hate the kids going into school out of school hours and it usually takes place whilst theres a major out break of d&v. All we need to get through now is the school plays and the class parties (which I hate the most as it involves a buffet). I'm hoping the bugs will stay away after there was a small outbreak a few weeks ago but I cant see that happening, it always seems to be around on the run up to Christmas sad.

pinkkoala Sat 30-Nov-13 21:25:13

I would be the first in the queue if there was a vaccine, i hate this time of year and dread it if a resident gets it. My dd is cooking at school on monday, all i can think is all the little germy hands making one thing to share.

Hoorah I've got to Sunday and still healthy touch wood touch wood! DS3 also escaped. But DS2 now appears to have slapped cheek syndrome and DS1 also has a red cheek. So more time off school for them.

Hope everyone else is ok, coping with poorly children x

JulietMontague Sun 01-Dec-13 18:00:51

Somehow managed to get to Sunday without anyone else getting sick! DD is now completely better and my anxiety has come down about 3 notches! Still feel like I'm jinxing myself by saying we're all ok but so far, so good! Fingers crossed...! It must be awful for older people. I work as an attendance officer in a school and spend the whole of winter panicking when a few kids start to have time off with tummy bugs, you notice the patterns and it tends to go through the younger ones first confused

soditandgoforit Sun 01-Dec-13 19:36:44

Just nc'd because this will properly out me in RL but I'm in tatters, it was only reading through this that ive realised my reaction to sickness bugs isn't the usual everyday kind of reaction! I actually feel sick at the thought of me or one of my DDs being sick.

DD1 is only little and has had her fair share of tummy bugs, I've caught all of them over the last three years but last winter asked FH ans everyone around me to start helping me by improving personal hygiene. I become very fearful of DD1 getting ill as she has been in and out of hospital since birth with seizures - usually fever triggers but sickness also causes low blood sugar and dehydration which in turn cause seizures.

And then there is my DD2, my skinny baby, the idea of her being ill as shes only five months makes be quite scared.

GP knows I'm a neurotic mum and is very patient with me!

So today friends come over and as they arrive they say their baby has been sick all morning and make a joke about the explosive poos. This is after my DD1 has picked her up for a cuddle and kisses. I asked them to leave blush

I am now a woman on the edge waiting for us to catch it.

justmuddlingalongsomehow Sun 01-Dec-13 21:47:34

How is everyone doing? Hope your dh is feeling better too, Marne x

autumnsmum Mon 02-Dec-13 08:13:06

Sod it you poor thing

Bugger bugger bugger. The bug got me at 9.15pm last night. Luckily I haven't been sick but I've had a terrible night with the other direction. This usually happens to me with tummy bugs. I felt sick all night but have just started to feel a bit better. DH has taken the DSs to school (even the two with slapped cheek syndrome as the school office tell me it is ok).

Fluffycloudland77 Mon 02-Dec-13 08:49:34

Poor you, I took 60hrs from dh first throwing up to me joining him. It's grim.

devilinside Mon 02-Dec-13 09:53:18

Hope you feel better soon Becky, it usually passes very quickly, I had it back in February and didn't V, thanks to downing Motilium throughout the night, Was absolutely fine by lunchtime the next day

Marne Mon 02-Dec-13 13:50:50

Get well soon becky, luckily it's just the other end but still not nice sad.

alexle Mon 02-Dec-13 19:19:32

Oh dear. Hope you are feeling better now Becky. What a few days you've had. Xx

Hello everyone, I got better quite quickly and so pleased I wasn't actually sick (mind over matter I guess!). By Tues lunchtime I was completely better but then by the evening I had a sore throat and now have a cold. But I can cope with colds!!

Hope everyone else is ok. I'm now hoping that for our family at least we'll have a nice worry-free Christmas. Only a couple of weeks left until school finishes too.

Marne Fri 06-Dec-13 16:56:28

Glad you are ok Becky, at least now you can relax over Christmas. I have had this cold for 2 weeks but tbh I would rather has this for a month than have a stomach bug for a day. 2 more weeks left at school, fingers crossed we can make it grin

autumnsmum Fri 06-Dec-13 21:36:20

Oh god need this thread Facebook is full of posts about vomiting which is terrifying me

devilinside Fri 06-Dec-13 22:22:47

Yes, can you set facebook to filter out such posts? One today put the fear of god in me

Marne Sat 07-Dec-13 11:25:05

I hate the fb posts but feel drawn to them (for some reason I have to go back and read them again and sometimes comment), I always panic, even more so if its someone who has kids at the dd's school or someone who lives near by. A few weeks ago there were about 6 posts abut it in one day sad.

Marne Sun 08-Dec-13 07:36:02

Dh went to his Christmas party last night, didn't drink but went straight after work (after 2 long days of work) so was quite tired, he's now in bed with a head ache and said 'I don't want to worry you but I feel sick', I have given him a tablet and have left him to it (I have the tv turned up just uncase), luckily me and the dd's are of to church for the christingle in a couple hours.

justmuddlingalongsomehow Sun 08-Dec-13 09:47:49

I'm sorry to hear that Marne. Didn't you have another thread about dh and headaches recently? Has he had any luck investigating with the gp? It doesn't sound like it is a bug. Crossing all that you have a peaceful Sunday. Migraines can make people v but not contagious to you or dcs. xx

Marne Sun 08-Dec-13 12:14:24

He still hasn't been to the GP sad, I think its probably migraines, he did a 12 hour shift on Friday followed by a 9 hour shift yesterday before the work party so it is probably caused by being totally knackered, he's still in bed know, not sure if he has been sick as he wouldn't tell me unless I ask (and I'm not sure I want to know) but at least its not a bug, tbh I have only ever known him have on bug in the almost 11 years we have been together but he does often feel ill when he's been extra busy at work.

justmuddlingalongsomehow Sun 08-Dec-13 17:05:37

xxx

justmuddlingalongsomehow Sun 08-Dec-13 21:02:38

Marne - have pm'ed you...

Marne Mon 09-Dec-13 16:21:39

Theres 5 kids off in dd1's class today, 2 are her close friends and her best friend was ill at the weekend (but not sure what was wrong with him), I am panicking even though I don't know if its a stomach bug (could be a bad cold right?), one of them has a sister in dd2's class and she is off too sad, please let us make it through the next 2 weeks.

NewName123 Mon 09-Dec-13 18:25:13

Do you think this thread is a healthy thing for you all? Doesn't it just increase your anxiety?

autumnsmum Mon 09-Dec-13 20:28:07

I haven't been on it long but it's really helped to know over people feel this way .for ages I thought it was just me

alexle Mon 09-Dec-13 22:05:33

Hi Marne
Hope your dh is feeling better now. It might not be a bug that the children have. There are loads of colds and coughs doing the rounds. I know how hard it is not to obsess about it though. I drive myself mad thinking about it and trying to find out what's wrong without outing myself as an emetophobe. It makes me feel really guilty as people must think I'm being really caring asking questions about how they are when I'm actually carrying out a risk assessment! Hope you're o.k. Nearly Christmas holidays! Xx

BrightestStarInTheSky Tue 10-Dec-13 09:29:55

Can i join?
DH has woken up with D and says he feels as though he is going to be sick. I'm sitting here now on the verge of a panic attack. My heart is beating so fast. For me its the sound of someone being sick as well as bugs. We live in a small flat and I will be able to hear everything if DH is sick. I honestly will go into full blown panic if he does.
I've turned TV right up but not taking my mind off it!!

ephemeralfairy Tue 10-Dec-13 10:14:22

Hi BrightestStar

You poor thing. I know exactly how you feel, I would be just the same! Can you go out for a walk for an hour or so? Fresh air would probably do you good and get you away from the source of panic!

ephemeralfairy Tue 10-Dec-13 10:26:15

Also I've found this thread has helped as it is a relief to know that others feel the same and it's not just me being a freak!

To everyone: I was just wondering how supportive your family and friends are? My DP used to just get annoyed with me as my phobia manifests itself in obsessive handwashing and obsessive checking/nagging others to wash their hands.

I think he's realised now how bad it is but all he has to say is 'you need to get some professional help with this!'

My mum just thinks it's weird and annoying as I can't actually bring myself to say the v-word in order to explain it to her!

Hi Marne hope your DH is ok. My DH feels sick when he gets a bad headache but he's not sick. In fact I can feel it a bit too but usually feel better if I eat and / or lie down for a bit.

BrightStar I know that panicky feeling. It's horrid. I hope you are ok xx

ephemeralfairy my mum thought I was just being a complete hypochondriac (she was a nurse so other people being sick doesn't bother her). I used to freak out if my brother or sister was sick and she'd basically tell me to pull myself together and stop being so stupid. My DH is very supportive. I'm lucky actually. He's also very good about telling me if he feels unwell because he knows that to me the not knowing and guessing is almost worse than the truth. If I suspect he's not well I feel more panicky.

autumnsmum Wed 11-Dec-13 15:21:57

Oh god panicking now about getting to end of term dd2 has her first ever concert on we'd I'm so scared she will be ill

Marne Wed 11-Dec-13 15:42:12

Dd's best friend was off with a d&v bug, was sick on Sunday night and came back to school today, his sister also had it, both children were sat next to my dd's in church this morning so I am now panicking sad. Apparently they caught it off a baby that was given a live vaccine for stomach viruses ( didn't know they were vaccinating for these, is it retrovirus?). Please reassure me that it was 48 hours since they were ill before they came back to school so should be ok?

I am sure that 48 hours is ok. DS2 and DS1 were kept off for 48 hours and none of their best friends caught it. In fact DS3's best friend came own with it during the week we were all ill without DS3 getting it at all which made me wonder if he was a carrier without getting any symptoms. He was the only one of us in the whole family to escape it and he was surrounded by sicky people for 2 weeks and had constant cuddles etc. That I found really odd.

Marne Wed 11-Dec-13 15:56:13

thanks becky, thinking about it, it sounds more like food poisoning to me, they were at a family get together where this baby was (that apparently had the live vaccine a few days before), 24 hours after the whole family came down with it including their 16 month old child, she was telling me about the vaccine in the playground and said her dd had the vaccine at 6 and 12 months, so surely if it was passed on from the baby her dd wouldn't have got it? (as she had been vaccinated).

It could be, if so many were ill at the same time it sounds more like food to me.

Marne Wed 11-Dec-13 19:10:32

Apparently 12 people came down with it, seems more like food poisoning, wouldn't have thought a small baby could infect that many people after being given a small dose in a vaccine, she said they were violently sick for a couple of hours and were then ok apart from her 16 month old who is suffering at the other end. Fingers crossed it was something they ate at the family get together.

Twighlightsparkle Thu 12-Dec-13 01:21:47

I'm sitting next to my 5 year old who woke up about an hour and 20 mins ago with dirrhea and feeling sick.

She hasn't been sick yet and is fast asleep but I'm sure it's imminent .

How I hate this, so much.

Marne Thu 12-Dec-13 07:59:19

sad, twighlight I hope she is ok and hasn't been sick, the waiting is the worst part. I'm still worried the dd's will be ill, if they have caught it then tonight will be the night, so far they seem ok.

Marne Sun 15-Dec-13 11:32:06

Hope everyone is ok, anxiety is high here ( ill children in dd2s class ) but only one week to go xxxx

justmuddlingalongsomehow Sun 15-Dec-13 14:29:45

Hi Marne, high anxiety here too with bugs going round the last few weeks. Not in dcs classes yet but feels inevitable with the elder sibling of one of ds's friends off with it on Friday. Ds has class Christmas party tomorrow which feels terrifying. Dc1 wouldn't eat much at these occasions but ds is a gannet. sad 5 more days...

Marne Sun 15-Dec-13 14:38:21

One of Dd2's best friends was sick at school one Friday (I don't know the details as dd2 cant tell me due to her Autism but I know the boy was sick and then went home), have been anxious all weekend waiting for dd2 to be ill but she seems fine, we have school plays Tuesday and wed then the dreaded class parties (buffet lunch) on Thursday, if I had my way I would keep them home for the last week but of course they are looking forward to it. Fingers crossed we can make it through the week and to Christmas day bug free.

autumnsmum Sun 15-Dec-13 20:06:15

Total panic here as dd2 has class play on wed and I'm petrified she's going to be ill for it

Twighlightsparkle Sun 15-Dec-13 20:53:04

Well my daughter didn't vomit we'd night but did thurs evening, all over the sofa!

Turned out she had a urinary tract infection.

I keep hearing about kids having vim bugs though. Fingers crossed for everyone xx

Marne Sun 15-Dec-13 21:08:22

Twighlight ,glad it wasn't a bug, hope your dd is feeling better UTIs are horrid.

Autum, I'm dreading the school plays but not because dd might be ill, I'm anxious that a child may vomit during the play.

I hope this week goes fast and we all get through it bug free, I'm trying to calm myself down about dd's friend being sick at school, for all I know he may not have been sick in the classroom but if he was sick in the classroom then I know others will catch it ( that's usually what happens ).

autumnsmum Mon 16-Dec-13 11:21:46

Anxiety going through roof here about v and the Facebook posts have started agIn

Marne Mon 16-Dec-13 13:57:44

Me too, several children missing in dd's class this morning. I'm not sleeping as so worried about the dd's being ill for Christmas, think I got about one hours sleep last night. I'm blocking posts on fb sad, please let this week go fast.

Oh Marne you poor thing, the anxiety is horrid. Keeping fingers crossed for you. When do they break up? Mine finish on Friday. Its only a few days left and if you make it to Monday next week then you're probably all going to be fine.

Marne Mon 16-Dec-13 17:10:49

Mine break up Friday, dreading the school parties on Thursday ( each child takes in some food and its a big free for all), once they break up we won't be going anywhere until the day after Boxing Day so hopefully we can get to Monday and then I will know we are bug free.

Twighlightsparkle Mon 16-Dec-13 18:06:18

Marne I can fully sympathise, I was watching the school concert today and one girl coughed as though she was going to vomit! Aaahhh she was fine in the end.

My daughter had a violin concert on sat and one boy ran off hands under his mouth aaahhhhhh. The teacher appeared back in e auditorium with wads of paper towels, I thought the worst, turned out to be a nosebleed!

How relieved was I?!

A friend of my 5 year old told me today her toddler sister had been vomiting last night!

Aaahhhhhh cue me telling my 5 year old to sta6 clear of thei friend! It's a nightmare. I'd do anything not to be emmetophobic.

Newcurtainsplease Mon 16-Dec-13 19:39:56

My levels of anxiety have dropped loads today. Even though Facebook is full of bug reports. I think I'm more relaxed because this week is pretty empty, there is nothing that it would be a disaster to miss. Even if ds (only have the 1 partly because of this anxiety) gets ill at the weekend fingers crossed he will recover by Christmas Day. My problem is definitely the not knowing and ds being ill in a difficult situation,

pinkkoala Mon 16-Dec-13 22:27:39

Hope everyone is ok. I am counting down the days til friday when dd finishes, they have the xmas party on the friday, where everyone brings food in, i dread it. Hopefully if we get to monday i can then look forward to xmas, we wont be going out much til boxing day.

justmuddlingalongsomehow Mon 16-Dec-13 22:31:54

As far as I know all kids in both dcs classes in school today but ds had his nursery party with all th food brought in from home... I know one of the children has a sister who was off on Friday with a tummy bug and tried to look at the food list this morning to see what they were bringing. Unfortunately they weren't on the list so I have no idea what they brought and couldn't tell ds not to eat it.hmm

Both kids in bed and fast asleep. Ds finishes tomorrow and the rest of us on Friday. Other than that one family the v'ing of 3 weeks ago seems to have subsided. Fingers crossed - it is just so exhausting living life under such tension!
brew all round... Anyone for wine??!!
jmas xx

devilinside Mon 16-Dec-13 23:22:20

Yes, worried because DC attended a party yesterday where there was cake decorating. DS has ASD and just grabbed the cake, poured on loads of icing and then went from pot to pot grabbing sprinkles etc., which other children had been handling all day, and shoving them in his mouth.

Also on Saturday, child v'd at a Christmas fair, cue me bolting for the door, why oh why do people take their children out when they have bugs, it was an older child too.

Marne Tue 17-Dec-13 07:58:47

As far as I can tell there's only one child off in each of the dd's classes with tummy bugs, I am hoping there won't be a huge outbreak and the parents will keep them off for the 48 hour rule, school plays today though so I suspect even if they are still poorly they will be sent in because they won't want to miss the play, I have also been trying to look at the list of food to work out what these children will be bringing on Thursday ( so I can tell the dd's not to touch those items ). Dd2 constantly has her hands in her mouth so I'm sure she will catch it eventually, I am giving them probiotics in the hope they will help ( we have given them for the past few winters and have avoided any major bugs so I'm now scared not to use them incase they are what saved up ).

autumnsmum Tue 17-Dec-13 08:09:37

It's driving me mad as I posted previously it's dd2s concert tomorrow and I'm obsessed she will miss it people in rl don't understand

Dancergirl Tue 17-Dec-13 10:28:59

Can anyone give me some advice..?

Last night I started to feel unwell, sort of flu-ey. Then I started to feel sick but could have just been because I was worrying about it. Since then my tummy's felt really odd and queasy. I had an anxious night as I was worrying about being sick (I wasn't). Been to the loo a bit more than usual but no diarrhoea (sorry if TMI). This morning the sick-y feeling has passed but my tummy still feels really queasy. And I haven't eaten anything.

Could this be a mild form of a bug?

devilinside Tue 17-Dec-13 10:29:18

You all sound as nuts as me, I don't enjoy the school nativity, I just sit there watching out if someone looks like they're are about to 'V' God I hate this phobia.

Out of interest does anyone have Asperger's tendencies? I do (Dx mild AS) beginning to think there is a link

devilinside Tue 17-Dec-13 10:34:38

My theory is that emetophobia is an extreme social phobia, formed when (AS people, or those slightly on the spectrum) are forced into social situations as a child. Mine started when I was forced to go to a holiday camp at 7 and a boy v'd, I can remember the smell to this day. I think it is also a sensory issue for me: colour, smell and sound

devilinside Tue 17-Dec-13 10:57:40

Hi Dancergirl, could be a mild bug, I'm sure you would have v'd by now, if it were full blown noro, I would stock up on Motilium (Just in case) and only eat when you feel like it (there is a theory that if you feel like eating, then you probably won't v) not sure how true it is though

autumnsmum Tue 17-Dec-13 11:04:13

Devil I have 2 children diagnosed with autism and I'm sure I have aspergers what you say is v interesting

Dancergirl Tue 17-Dec-13 11:15:19

Thanks devil I've had a piece of wholemeal toast with honey as I feel really empty. Don't feel very hungry though.

How many motilitium can you take at once or within a certain period?

devilinside Tue 17-Dec-13 11:42:25

I took 4 last time I had a bug (2 is supposed to be the limit) It stopped me v'ing

autumnsmum, it's very interesting, my son has autism and dd, I am sure has aspergers, although v high functioning, so not sure she would get a dx at this stage

autumnsmum Tue 17-Dec-13 11:59:20

Devil with my two ds has high functioning autism and is at mainstream school and dd2 has autism and is at special school

devilinside Tue 17-Dec-13 12:08:33

My son is in mainstream, but struggling, not writing in yr 3 so we are in the process of getting him Statemented and then moving him to a special school. (that's the plan anyway)

DD is in mainstream, and doing ok for now, but she is struggling with friendships and painfully shy. She is so bright, but not handling the social side v well, I think she might be picking up on my phobia too, even though I do my best to hide it

Marne Tue 17-Dec-13 15:43:39

Both my dd's are on the spectrum and I strongly suspect I am too (was told by a therapist that its very likely but I don't have a dx), my eldest dd gets anxiety too (sometimes its quite extreme).

The child that was ill in dd1's class was back today after being sick sunday night, dd1 said she stayed out of his way.

School play tonight, back to school at 5.45, will be glad when its over.

MoltenChocolateBabycake Tue 17-Dec-13 21:46:45

Hi, can I join? I have been emetophobic as long as I can remember but it rarely affects day to day life. My 5 year old was sick twice last night and I'm still really struggling.

It's the waiting that is the worst part - waiting to see if she'll be sick again, waiting to see if my 2 year old catches it, I'm on edge listening out for every little sound tonight!

Dancergirl Tue 17-Dec-13 22:00:30

Still feeling really anxious sad

I'm driving myself mad trying to work out what's caused this queasiness. I don't normally get bugs so is this a bug where you're not actually sick, or have I not been sick because I haven't for so long (30 years +)? Has my body 'forgotten' how to vomit?

The other thing I can think of is I had a small take away pizza from Wenzels yesterday lunchtime and starting feeling ill in the evening. Could it be a food poisoning thing rather than a bug?

Marne Wed 18-Dec-13 08:06:58

Dancegirl, I get a bad tummy quite often, last week I had a bout of D and was panicking, within a few hours I was fine but still had tummy ach for a few days, I think a lot of it is caused by anxiety rather than actual illness, we get a slight stomach ach and then we get anxious about it making it feel 10 times worse (and with me I get D).

3 more school days to get through and then the weekend xxx

Twighlightsparkle Wed 18-Dec-13 13:39:57

Hi molten, I know exactly what that listening out thing is like, many hugs xxxxxx.

I emailed the new headmaster of my kids school asking him topic 48 hr rule in email to parents! He agreed but is doing it after Christmas.!

He said he tells parents re it but can't obviously police it.

Marne Wed 18-Dec-13 14:01:52

Twighlight- our school is quite good, if more than 2 children in the school are off with the bug then they send out text messages to all parents to remind them of the 48 hour rule, most parents do stick to the rule but there are a few who seem to think they can ignore it and have no consideration for anyone else sad.

At the dd's old school I actually threatened to take my dd's home after a child was sick the previous day (at lunch time) and her mother sent her back in the next day, apparently the mother sent her in on the bus and by the time she got in they could not get hold of her mother because she had gone to work, I was so angry because at the time if dd2 was to get ill she was likely to need hospital treatment (as she had already been unwell and often refuses to drink when sick).

Marne Wed 18-Dec-13 15:56:46

Ah, nightmare, please send me good non vomiting vibes.

Dd2 was in a science lesson, 2 children felt sick (this isn't the scary part) so her 1:1 left dd2 to fetch sick bags, when she was gone my dd2 decided to have a swig out of the glass containing the science experiment, in the glass was egg shells, mouldy apple juice and blackcurrant squash (apparently they were growing mould). I don't know why a primary school felt it was safe to try and grow salmonella in a year 3 science class, even more so around a autistic child that eats and drinks anything she can lay her hands on. I hope to god she isn't sick sad.

Oh and the 2 children that felt sick might have felt sick because of the mould or it could be the bug that's going around (so now I am double anxious).

devilinside Wed 18-Dec-13 21:28:29

Marne, I'm sure she'll be fine, the things my ASD son has eaten/drunk is enough to make your hair curl. I am very rational when it comes to suspect foods and a bit of mould is unlikely to make her sick (salmonella on the other hand? but most eggs these days are not infected, I regularly let me two lick raw cake mixture.

(I'm completely irrational when it comes to bugs though)

devilinside Wed 18-Dec-13 21:30:46

Dancergirl how are you feeling? there are so many mild bugs around this time of year (most don't cause v'ing) I had one at the weekend, rumbling stomach, a few pains and slight nausea

Marne Wed 18-Dec-13 21:46:20

Dd seems ok so far, one of the children who felt poorly earlier was not at the school production tonight, heard his mum saying he had not been sick but felt very sick, the other child was there and he seemed fine ( maybe it was the mouldy science stuff that made them feel sick ). I'm going to be soooooo pleased when this week is over.

Dancergirl Thu 19-Dec-13 09:10:58

Feel much better today. I had no appetite at all and didn't eat much until Tues night when I fancied fish fingers and beans with the dds!

Yesterday daytime I didn't fancy much to eat but it wore off in the day and I think I'm back to normal now.

I presume your body builds up immunity from these bugs...? But I suppose there are many different types out there...

autumnsmum Thu 19-Dec-13 14:16:54

AaaaH one of ds best friends has a vomiting bug we could all get it for xmas

Marne Thu 19-Dec-13 16:30:23

This morning I heard dd's TA say ' they are dropping like flies' which made me panic a little. I hope to god we don't get it for Christmas, fingers crossed for everyone, one more day to get through ( and then the weekend to be sure no one has got it ), roll on Monday xxx

autumnsmum Thu 19-Dec-13 16:56:42

Marne I'm petrified last time ds came home and said someone had been sick in class it went round all three Dcs over an Easter holiday .ds has a train trip booked Saturday if he's sick that's a right off

Dancergirl Thu 19-Dec-13 17:08:38

Has anyone heard of this product:

www.teccare.com/cat/teccare-protect/

It's supposed to kill noro

Marne Thu 19-Dec-13 18:38:11

There are a few products that kill noro, not sure if they are any better than bleach and water (which is also meant to kill noro).

I found a fb group for the phobia (but have not joined as its not a closed group) but read a few of the links on there, some of them are quite helpful, theres a thread about preparing for noro (making sure you have everything at hand to clean up as quick as possible to stop it spreading), I got a bucket ready on the landing along wit spare bedding and old towels, went upstairs yesterday and dh had put all the items away [grr] (maybe I should have told him what I was doing) smile.

I managed to get over the anxiety of sending dd1 to nursery for her last two weeks only for her to pick up a tummy bug from a playdate. What frustrated me was it was just as they left the child had an explosive poo and his mum said 'oh yes had an upset tummy today haven't you" at which I webt pale.

Twenty four hours later dd1 starts with a tummy bug. DH has done sterling work and done all clearing up including changing her every hour last night. Her bum is bleeding from nappy rash. Contacted the mum who blamed it on my childs nursery!

So I have had a poorly weeping child all day who can't sit down. And a baby with a growth spurt occurring. And paid for two days nursery we couldn't use (£120). And I can't finsuh the food shopping baking or cleaning. So so annoyed.

Roll on

Marne Thu 19-Dec-13 19:06:26

Oh no sad hate it when people don't think about passing bugs onto others. Hope your poor dd's nappy rash clears up soon, must be very painful for her, poor thing sad.

autumnsmum Thu 19-Dec-13 19:13:33

That's rotten about the nappy rash apparently one girl came into ds class the other day after being sick and now six people in his class including the teacher have it

devilinside Fri 20-Dec-13 13:38:45

sad hope we are all remaining bug free, DD is going to a huge party tonight in a church hall, that is causing me much anxiety, can't cope with the thought of a d&v bug over Christmas. People staying, no escape, d&v bugs, my worst nightmare

Boobybeau Fri 20-Dec-13 14:40:49

This is amazing, I've only just found this thread and you ALL think like me, I can't believe it! I thought I was going mad but turns out I have an actual phobia! Ds started school this year and has special needs so puts everything in his mouth, licks everything and is always poorly so I've been dreading this. And all the fb posts are also feeding my anxiety, even reading this thread is making me a bit shaky! DH told me over dinner that they've been dropping like flies at his work with d & v and I instantly lost my appetite. I refuse to use any puplic loos and I get twitchy when DH uses one and I feel the need to constantly remind him not to touch anything (including the door handles) I hate it so much, I feel like its taking over my life sometimes as its always in the back of my mind. We take the dc swimming once a week and it takes all my energy as I'm in constant fear of us all catching something as my worst fear is we all get d & v at the same time but I refuse to give into it as I wants children to enjoy their childhood.
It just drives me crazy that there are so many selfish people around who happily take their sick dc out. I also have friends on chemo and steroids who it would be much more serious for so I get doubly cross!
I've been using the boots antiviral foam, it says it also protects for upto 6hrs, does anyone know if it actually works against norovirus and alike?

Newcurtainsplease Fri 20-Dec-13 21:13:55

welcome Boobybeau. I was wondering yesterday whether actually every one thinks like this and I am just 'pretending' to have a phobia. Then dh announced that he had booked for him and ds to go to the cinema on Sunday. Without a 2nd thought about the bug possibilities. Only 2 days before Christmas. The very thought of it terrifies me!

Boobybeau Fri 20-Dec-13 21:44:33

Argh, my dh would do something like that. Trouble is I think they are being the reasonable ones as that sounds like a lovely thing to do with the dc, I just wish I could switch my brain off and just enjoy the moment like them.
I think everyone on this thead should live in a super clean community together with our fab infection control OCD and then we wouldn't have to worry about d & v when doing lovely activities with our children as we would know that everyone has washed their hands and obeyed the 48hr rule. Then all the selfish people who don't care about passing around their germs can happily infect each other as much as they like!!!

Twighlightsparkle Fri 20-Dec-13 23:04:17

Welcome booby. I've come to the conclusion people enjoy talking about tummy bugs, I hate hearing talk of it , at school gates etc.

justmuddlingalongsomehow Sat 21-Dec-13 08:38:29

Bollocks - ds has been up since 3 with d. Thank god I had some old pull ups or life would have been even more hideous. Now I wait for the v to start - he says he feels sick - and watch dc1 like a hawk.

I really thought we'd escaped it with school being out. Shaking like a leaf - we're supposed to be driving to my mum's tomorrow. I'm on my own with the kids and am so looking forward to adult company it's unreal. Shit shit shit. Literally. We can't go yet can we? In tears.

Marne Sat 21-Dec-13 09:15:50

Justmud- hope your ds is ok and hasn't been sick, when ever my dd's have had a bug the V has come first so fingers crossed your ds has got away with just D. My dd used to get a lot of bugs when she was nursery age but most of them just involved D (my other dd has only ever had D once but she is more likely to be sick). Could you go to your mums a day later (if your ds is ok and is not sick)?

I would love to take dd1 to the cinema near Christmas (there are a few films she would like to see) but I'm not brave enough, maybe we will go after Christmas (but I will be taking my hand gel and not letting her near the pick and mix).

justmuddlingalongsomehow Sat 21-Dec-13 12:14:21

Things not great. DC1 complaining of feeling sick and having tummy ache. DS white as a sheet and curled up on sofa.

Feck

justmuddlingalongsomehow Sat 21-Dec-13 13:00:49

Oh God. Both of them have been sick. How can I deal with this? Too scared, shaking and crying. Have bathed them both and got them with pull ups on sitting on towels watching a Christmas film. Ho ho bloody ho sad

Marne Sat 21-Dec-13 14:01:10

sad, so sorry you are going through this Justmud, fingers crossed for no more V, sounds like you have things under control, the best thing to do is cover the area around them with towels and keep bowls near by (I always use old towels that can be chucked away so less to handle and clean), hopefully they are over the worst, just keep giving them fluids and no food until tomorrow (if they have stopped being sick), I always starve mine even though they now say to feed them. Hopefully they will be both be better in a day or 2, kids seem to recover quite quickly so they should be fine by Christmas day.

alexle Sat 21-Dec-13 14:49:51

Really sorry to hear this just muddling. Hope that's the end if it now and dc are feeling better soon. I can understand how you must be feeling. The anxiety is horrendous. As Marne said, it sounds like you are doing really well, you have them clean and changed. Don't be hard on yourself - this is our worst fear and you are managing it. Thinking of you.

justmuddlingalongsomehow Sat 21-Dec-13 21:11:59

Both still rubbish. Last sick about half an hour ago from dc1. Ds was about an hour ago. Both still crapping for England. Not sure I can do this sad sad

devilinside Sat 21-Dec-13 22:36:42

Sorry you are going through this muddling. Keep strong, I know it's tough, but we always cope. How are they now?

justmuddlingalongsomehow Sat 21-Dec-13 22:39:10

Asleep. It's going to be a long night. No more sick but lots of the other from both. Not sure which I find worse tbh. I am terrified. I can just imagine having it over Xmas, not being able to go to my mum's. I've been looking forward to it for month's and months. So pissed off.

Thanks for the support.

Twighlightsparkle Sat 21-Dec-13 23:06:25

Many hugs, you can do it , you are doing it. It will be over soon.

You have coped.

Hope they are better really soon x

Dancergirl Sun 22-Dec-13 01:14:21

Hope you are ok muddling and manage to get some sleep.

We are all here to support you.

Twighlightsparkle Sun 22-Dec-13 08:14:03

Hope things are better this morning muddling, remember no dairy or it prolonged the bug.

I've been panicking, on thurs I saw a child at work, my job involves 20 mins close contact with a child, testing their eyes. He looked really awful, as they came in the room I asked mum if he was ok, she said yes.,after 20 mins of me sitting v close to him she told me he had been vomiting all night and was missing nursery party!

Aaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh. Drives me bonkers. I've had aching joints since yesterday , which I've had prior to noro in the past.

alexle Sun 22-Dec-13 08:31:23

How are things this morning just muddling? Did you manage to get any sleep? Thinking if you.

devilinside Sun 22-Dec-13 10:53:58

How are you this morning Muddling? Twighlight, awful that people are so selfish, how do they justify taking ill toddlers out ready to infect others, just before Christmas, I am sure you will be fine, as the child didn't 'v', but still sad

Marne Sun 22-Dec-13 13:20:51

Hope our dc's are feeling better Muddling and I hope you are ok Twighlight, I don't understand why people take children to appointments when they are poorly sad.

We have made it to sunday so am hoping we are bug free, though dd1 has a bad cold and dh is complaining of tooth ache (I can cope with both of these).

justmuddlingalongsomehow Sun 22-Dec-13 16:13:24

Hello all - kids slightly better after night from hell with both of them from both ends. I am knackered - can't cope with much more and wish I had family nearby.

They look like they've been white washed and I am terrified I'm going to get it for christmas and be stuck at home alone. sad

muddling I really hope you are ok.

I went to a carol service this afternoon. Dd scoffed a load of sweets and food prepared heaven only knows when. Sigh.

justmuddlingalongsomehow Sun 22-Dec-13 19:52:15

Feel very rough. Have a bucket. Crying. What can I do? Kids think I've gone a bit mad ... I don't want to be sick. sad sad sad

Marne Sun 22-Dec-13 20:10:39

Justmuddling, sorry you are feeling poorly, have you got an motilium ? Can anyone get you any? Quite often when we get bugs we are not sick ( takes a lot to make us sick ), try and find something to keep your mind busy ( I usually play a addictive game on the iPad or dd's ds ). Fingers crossed for you xxxxxx

Justmuddling, hello, I am an old Mner, not usually here, and never post on these emetophobe threads, but I do read them as I am a very bad emetophobe, just like all of you here.

Sometimes, when lurking on MN, I can't resist reading the emetophobe thread if it is active, and so it was I came to it today. As no-one else has replied to your message this evening yet, I feel I have to offer you a supporting hand.

Try to stay calm, sweetie. You have been through a dreadful 2 days and you have done brilliantly on your own with 2 sick children. It would have been virtually impossible to avoid such a bug yourself, in such circumstances. But you don't have to be sick. Try to breathe slowly and deeply, try to be as calm as you can, and hopefully you will avoid the worst. I have never been sick as a result of catching my children's bugs - always managed to just have diarrhoea. Put something on the tv/radio to try and distract you from thinking about it.

And, I don't know how old your children are, or if they know about your phobia, but I could never hide my fear from my children so I have always been quite honest with them about it. Tell your children Mummy will be ok, you are just very scared of being sick, but you are a silly Mummy as there is nothing really to be scared of, it is just the way you are (or words that you will think appropriate - that is roughly what I have told mine as I didn't want them to think being sick was anything to be scared of, I didn't want them picking up my phobia).

Thinking of you sweetie.

Oops, crossed posts with Marne. smile

Geckos48 Sun 22-Dec-13 20:18:42

My husband and I had our first night off together in 2 months last night and spent the whole thing throwing up. Biggest boy hasn't done too well either.

It's crap, but at least it is over before Christmas I suppose

Dancergirl Sun 22-Dec-13 20:19:22

Wise words from dumbledore

Def do something to take your mind off it. You can will away the nausea. Read a book or watch some tv and try to really concentrate on it.

Really hope out are ok.

Dd2 (6mo) has just covered me head to toe in regurgitated milk and her dinner. I'm very concerned its a bug and I'll be hit by it over Christmas.

Geckoes and muddling I really hope you are better swiftly. Every time my dd1 gets ill I get ill too - its the anxiety over waiting rhat gets me.

babybear2011 Sun 22-Dec-13 22:14:14

Oh my goodness I worry just the same. I darent tell anyone incase they think im mad or something! I have been like this my whole life, its good to find somewhere like this where I can communicte with other sufferers. Not even my husband knows the true extent to which I suffer

alexle Sun 22-Dec-13 22:22:17

I'm sorry, I have only just seen your last message just muddling. I think you have done brilliantly looking after your children on your own for the last couple of days. I'm sorry to hear you are feeling ill now. Is there anyone you can call to come and sit with you or look after the dcs? Even just talking to someone on the phone can sometimes help me. It could be the anxiety making you feel sick but even if it is a bug as others have said, you might not be sick yourself. These things can affect adults, and especially emetophobes differently. Thinking if you. This will be over soon xx
Hoping you and dh are better soon to gecko. What a nightmare for you. X

devilinside Sun 22-Dec-13 22:23:08

Muddling, how are you now? so sorry you are going through this, but at least it you might be able to enjoy Xmas now?, I find once I've had a bug, I get a 3 month break from worrying (immunity lasts that long), small mercy I know when you are in the throws of a bug. I echo Motilium if you have any

Big Welly, has your baby been around anyone else with a bug? I found my children didn't get bugs until they were fully mobile and at toddler groups (around 18 mths)

devilinside Sun 22-Dec-13 22:31:52

Muddling, how are you now? so sorry you are going through this, but at least it you might be able to enjoy Xmas now?, I find once I've had a bug, I get a 3 month break from worrying (immunity lasts that long), small mercy I know when you are in the throws of a bug. I echo Motilium if you have any

Big Welly, has your baby been around anyone else with a bug? I found my children didn't get bugs until they were fully mobile and at toddler groups (around 18 mths)

My older girl had a diarrhoea not sickness bug wed-thur but I am praying that it was a reaction to cheese (first time today) or a massive burp that caused her to gag.

She starts nursery in January. Dreading it.

Marne Mon 23-Dec-13 09:09:37

Hope everyone is ok this morning and I hope Muddling made it through the night. Im going out with a friend for lunch today, usually I wouldn't go out this close to Christmas but im trying to be brave smile.

devilinside Mon 23-Dec-13 10:28:23

Muddling, hopefully you're over the nightmare now, and can look forward to Christmas and a nice three months immunity!

Hope everyone else is ok, we seemed to have survived the massive disco party on Friday, DS went to his club on Saturday, but they all have AS /ASD so tend to play electronic devices, rather than interact, so hoping he's ok.

Now it's just the worry about potentially infectious relatives turning up tomorrow

justmuddlingalongsomehow Mon 23-Dec-13 16:43:03

All I can say is omg... At one point last night I was in the bath with the shower on. Un controllable both ends. Terrifying and so alone. Thank god the dcs slept through and my friend took them today. sad sad and the phobia is worse than ever. No v since about 10am but anything I drink comes straight through still...

Dancergirl Mon 23-Dec-13 16:53:34

Oh muddling poor, poor you.

The worst is over.

Marne Mon 23-Dec-13 16:57:53

sad, I hope you are over the worst of it and you should be feeling better for Christmas day. I think those who say 'the phobia gets better once you have been sick' are wrong, mine gets worse each time (although I do try and tell myself that it was not that bad and I did not die). You coped very well Muddling and you should be proud of yourself, yes it was hell but you survived it and are now on the mend xxxxx

devilinside Mon 23-Dec-13 17:28:46

Well done Muddling, you did brilliantly, now three months immunity to look forward to

justmuddlingalongsomehow Tue 24-Dec-13 10:09:23

Life is really sodding conspiring against me isn't it. We are finally feeling better - weak as kittens but better (celebrated normal poo from ds this am!!). But of course trying to travel to family today is a bloody nightmare isn't it?!?!? I'm driving but the main road out of town is flooded and we are being advised on local radio not to travel sadsadsad.

Think I'll try this afternoon. Santa is on his way to Granny's house and we have stockings to hang there. T'is shite!

Marne Tue 24-Dec-13 12:11:45

We are stick too Muddling, cant get out of the village, all my dd's presents are at my mums house (only 5 miles away but we cant get there), roads are closed whilst they try and pump water away sad.

Twighlightsparkle Fri 27-Dec-13 17:43:38

How's everyone doing?

I was up with a vomiting 5 year old all night. Really odd as I purposely keep my kids away from people to avoid it at this time of year, awful I know.

So last Friday was the last time we went out anywhere public. We've been country walks and car trips but no idea where she picked it up from.

She's fine today and was fine between vomiting.

Now the wait is on.

Marne Fri 27-Dec-13 18:17:31

Twighlight, maybe it was something she had eaten? the excitement of Christmas? gone to bed to early after eating? Dd1 did this once, we hadn't been anywhere and she was randomly sick one night and was fine after, I'm sure it was where she had eaten too much and then went to bed. Fingers crossed the rest of you will be ok.

We have just got back from my dads, when we were there my brother called to say they were coming over but wouldn't be staying long as their 3 month old ds has a bug, of course there was nothing I could do to (couldn't just go home), I tried to keep the dd's away from the baby and then my brother passed the baby to me for a cuddle sad, I am now worried that we will catch something, came home and washed my hands several times, then smelt baby sick on myself so had a bath and put my clothes in the wash. Why cant people keep their sick children at home? (though it was nice to see him).

Twighlightsparkle Fri 27-Dec-13 20:13:04

Thanks Marne, fingers crossed.

What was your brother thinking, fingers crossed you will be ok, if it wasn't sick near you , and you washed hands I think you be one.

ephemeralfairy Sat 28-Dec-13 21:30:15

Do hope everyone got through the festivities unscathed?? I've realised a positive today: I haven't been picking at food or eating anything from buffets, any home-made mince pies etc because I'm too worried about people having touched the food without washing hands first....hence I haven't put on any weight!! Small mercies eh??

I was trying to explain it all to my mum earlier, all the public toilet phobia/obsessive hand washing/not being able to eat food that's been out on the counter in a cafe etc etc. I think she was starting to understand. I hope so anyway!

Twighlightsparkle Sun 29-Dec-13 09:00:23

Fairy, it's So difficult explaining to people.

Hurrah for the weight!

Marne apologies, reading back I realise I called your niece or nephew " it"

Sorry!

Hope everyone is well.

Marne Sun 29-Dec-13 18:07:53

It has been 48 hours and we are all ok grin can relax a bit now.

justmuddlingalongsomehow Wed 01-Jan-14 07:52:49

Happy New Year to you all. Spring is on its way now! x

Marne Wed 01-Jan-14 17:35:24

Happy new year smile, looking forward to spring, not long to go now.

Twighlightsparkle Wed 01-Jan-14 20:52:41

We're off to Edinburgh tomorrow to the lion king at the theatre and for lunch, wish me luck. I'm panicking about vomiting people!

Marne Thu 02-Jan-14 14:54:56

Good luck Twighlight, hope all goes well xxx

treadingwater123 Thu 02-Jan-14 23:27:42

Can anyone help?
I went into changing rooms in next today
Whilst in there there was strong smell of sick , when I came out the girl was mopping and wiping the floor about 10 metres from the cubicle I was in

Can anyone tell me the actual risk to me?

Thanks

Twighlightsparkle Fri 03-Jan-14 20:28:24

Hi treading.

Try not to worry, if you weren't in close proximity when the person vomited then the particles will have settled I think rather than still being airborne.

I had a panic at the theatre in Edinburgh, I took my 5 year old to the loo at the start. Of the interval, lady rushed in , in front , next cubicle. As I got my daughter onto the loo , noise of vomiting! Aaahhhhhhhhhh

Walls between cubicles not all the way up.

Panic !

MotheringShites Wed 08-Jan-14 00:38:38

DD just been really sick three or four times. I'm panicking. DH is really unsympathetic. Anyone around?

justmuddlingalongsomehow Wed 08-Jan-14 07:33:37

Oh Mothering - sorry no one was about in your hour of need? How are you doing? How is dd now? Really hope your night has got easier. I'm getting ready for work but will try to pop back on at lunch time. Hopefully bumping this will trigger someone else to post too. xx

MotheringShites Wed 08-Jan-14 07:56:54

Thanks justmuddling she fell asleep for the night after I posted so at least it didn't get any worse.

She and DS1 were due back at school today but I've decided to keep him home too. When a bug is already going round I wouldn't consider him to be any more a spreading risk than any other child, but being first day back I couldn't bear to be responsible for starting another outbreak. Do you think this is OTT? I'd appreciate siblings keeping away I think.

I'm so much better than I used to be, kids certainly give you some exposure therapy. Still hate it so much though.

Thanks again.

justmuddlingalongsomehow Wed 08-Jan-14 12:49:41

Hello! Your friendly lunchtime checking here! Hope your morning gas been uneventful!! I would not have kept dc2 off purely because I'd want them away from the ill one but we are all different like that! I can see your reasoning and tosh more parents were that thoughtful!!

justmuddlingalongsomehow Wed 08-Jan-14 12:50:05

Wish not tosh!!

Marne Wed 08-Jan-14 21:23:54

I always send the other dd in when one is poorly, I look at it as 'if she's at school she may avoid catching it from her sister'. Fingers crossed your dd is on the mend and no one else comes down with it xxx

alexle Thu 09-Jan-14 08:50:18

Hello Mothering. Sorry I didn't see this before now. How are things now? Hope you are o.k. X

MotheringShites Thu 09-Jan-14 09:12:17

A peaceful night so I'm still keeping fingers crossed DD was a one-off and it's over for now. Don't like to even say that in case it's tempting fate!

Thanks for the support. It's really helpful to know there are others who feel this way.

Dancergirl Mon 13-Jan-14 00:21:09

Anyone around? I'm in a panic. I've had a migraine type headache all day, scared I will v. But I would have by now if I was going to wouldn't I?

Have taken 2 Panadol at 2pm, 2 nurofen at 6pm, 1 nurofen at 11pm and 1 motilium.

The actual pain isn't too bad but my tummys a bit funny and I just feel off.

Marne Mon 13-Jan-14 15:55:20

Hope you are ok Dancegirl? I had a bad stomach last week, tummy was churning but I took motilium and went to bed and luckily I was ok, hope you are ok too xx

justmuddlingalongsomehow Sun 19-Jan-14 18:55:43

This disappeared off the threads I'm on so bumping for selfish reasons!!

This time last year these threads were stuffed full and so were the other health threads. Just goes to show it is a less active noro year.

Nearly spring - only 2 weeks till February now!

xx

Marne Sun 19-Jan-14 21:43:45

I'm thinking there's less about due to the warm weather, we havn't really had winter yet this year ( hopefully we can skip to spring ). Glad it's o quite on here xx

ecofreckle Sat 25-Jan-14 10:22:20

lurker here. sorry. can I ask do you think it's possible that a bug can manifest as v in dh and diarrhoea in me. I started diarrhoea yesterday and dh got v overnight. am v anxious for self whilst trying to look after ten month old dd. thanks.

justmuddlingalongsomehow Sat 25-Jan-14 11:22:10

Hi Eco - yes is the answer. Bugs can have varying effects on different people. Some with mere cramps, some with v and some with d. It could be that your d* is caused by anxiety though. Wash hands and spray bleach around liberally (not over dd obviously!!) - hope you all feel better soon.

ecofreckle Sat 25-Jan-14 11:32:13

thanks just. have disinfected and banished dh to spare room!

justmuddlingalongsomehow Sat 25-Jan-14 11:38:35

Well done! I think the key is to try to normalise it a bit. I read that on here once. This is a normal, though unpleasant, part of life. By early next week it will be over and life will carry on!

ecofreckle Sat 25-Jan-14 11:48:51

you sound like a wise owl justmuddling! You sound like I do on a sane day smile

Twighlightsparkle Tue 28-Jan-14 21:07:56

Hello, how's everyone doing?

I'm struggling, bug going around school, kids not being kept off or 48 hrs etc.

Aahhhhhhhhh

Feels like a waiting game. Long time since I've felt so anxious

Marne Tue 28-Jan-14 22:05:00

I'm ok, a little bit anxious as dd1 has been moaning about tummy ache for a few days now and is picking at food, this is the time of year when she usually gets it, it's her birthday next week so hopefully we will all be ok for that.

Our school is quite good and as soon as there's an outbreak ( more than 3 kids off with it ) they send out a text message to all parents reminding them of the 48 hour rule, of course there's always a few who don't stick too it.

Fingers crossed we can make it to half term ( I always try and focus on half term and holidays ).

justmuddlingalongsomehow Wed 29-Jan-14 19:00:24

Evening all! Bug going round our school too. Not in dcs classes yet but feels inevitable as their friends have siblings in affected class! Isn't it nearly Spring sad sad

Twighlightsparkle Wed 29-Jan-14 19:42:19

I'm really annoyed, one child back yesterday and one today, only off for 24 hrs.

Useless school cannot do anything re "48 hr" rule

Newcurtainsplease Wed 29-Jan-14 22:08:15

I overheard someone at school saying that her daughter was in today even though she was sick all night. She said "everyone does it" when I challenged her!!!

justmuddlingalongsomehow Wed 29-Jan-14 22:26:43

At our place they call the parents and ask them to come and collect of brought back too soon. They don't always come though!

Marne Thu 30-Jan-14 13:49:44

I don't think many people send there kids in after they have been sick all night, I would be very pissed off if they did, I know there are a few parents who seem to think its ok, luckily our school does stick to the 48 hour rule as much as they can and they put the rules on most news letters and send out texts when there is a outbreak.

devilinside Thu 30-Jan-14 14:59:27

Feeling a bit anxious, DP and DS both have a 'D' bug, but both are eating so it can't be noro, can it? I kept DS off today.

ecofreckle Thu 30-Jan-14 15:26:45

hello devil. Poor you. Hope they feel well again soon. Noro is pretty intense and when I had it eating was not on the cards. I had a thing last weekend that was just d. Didn't last long.

Marne Thu 30-Jan-14 17:33:35

Doesn't sound like noro, when I had noro I did not want to eat and was bad with both ends. Lots of other things going around that are not as extreme as noro.

devilinside Thu 30-Jan-14 23:39:41

thanks, think it's just a mild D bug, they are fine now, DS will be going to school tomorrow

Twighlightsparkle Fri 31-Jan-14 08:11:04

Hi devil , glad they are ok.

I work in a hospital, they have just reopened a ward shut with Noro.

devilinside Fri 31-Jan-14 10:14:26

Yes, I have to remember that there are thousands of bugs and most of them are extremely mild! We seem to mostly avoid Noro, by not socialising much (I don't have many friends, and neither do my DCs who are on the spectrum) It's utter crap, but at least we have fewer noro episodes

Marne Fri 31-Jan-14 12:49:37

Same here Devil, sometimes I think there are some pro's about not being very sociable and having kids on the spectrum, at the weekends we rarely go out and if we do it often involves me sitting in the car with the kids whilst dh runs into a shop and then we swap over smile.

pinkkoala Fri 31-Jan-14 19:52:10

Anyone know how long immunity lasts as dd had a bug end oe

Twighlightsparkle Fri 31-Jan-14 19:52:28

My 5 year old has a party to go to each Sunday for the next three weeks! Aaahhhhhh they are my worst nightmare. Luckily no soft play ones ( I'm sure just about each time we've been to soft play we've got a bug)

pinkkoala Fri 31-Jan-14 19:53:53

Flipping phone, dd had a bug end of nov and it seems its back at school again, is she likely to get it again. I am already getting anxious.

Marne Fri 31-Jan-14 20:15:01

I think immunity can range from a few weeks to a year, it also depends on what bug it was as there are different ones, some give you increased a unity each time you get it. My dd's have never had it more than once in a year but I know some children that get it 4 or 5 times ( some kids seem to be more prone to these things ).

kazzawazzawoo Fri 31-Jan-14 23:04:40

Hello, lurker here. I've suffered with emetaphobia for about 40 years since being very young. My children aren't tiny anymore, so most of the time it's manageable now. However, tonight my youngest aged 12 said she feels sick and I am panicking. hmm

I have just got a prescription for antidepressants but haven't started them yet hmm I wish I had a strong drink in the house but have nothing. Or I wish I still smoked (gave up ten years ago!) I know I'm going to barely sleep tonight, listening out for her and I have to be at work for 9 tomorrow hmm

I hate this phobia hmmhmm

alexle Sun 02-Feb-14 07:57:44

Hi Kazza. Sorry I didn't see this before. I hope you and your daughter are o.k now? Xx

kazzawazzawoo Sun 02-Feb-14 10:53:29

Thanks smile She was fine, she went to sleep straight away and was fine the next morning. I spent a fair bit of the night awake worrying hmm

Twighlightsparkle Sun 02-Feb-14 15:34:27

Hi kazza, I know exactly what you mean the lying awake listening , drives me bonkers!

Twighlightsparkle Tue 04-Feb-14 00:09:28

And herei am lying awake listening.

My 5 year old was sick at 9.40 pm. Nightmare. I just want to run away.

kazzawazzawoo Tue 04-Feb-14 07:54:01

Sorry to hear that hmm How is he now?

Twighlightsparkle Tue 04-Feb-14 09:22:04

Sick again at 1.10 am, fine since.

I'm now bleaching, washing etc etc!

alexle Tue 04-Feb-14 18:10:54

Hi Twilight. How are things now? Don't beat yourself up. You felt like running away and you didn't which is brilliant. I'm ashamed to say that the last couple of times my son has been ill I have left him with my dh and haven't been able to stay in the house. So, I think you are doing really well staying in the thick of it. I really hope your little one is feeling better now. Hang in there xx

Marne Tue 04-Feb-14 20:41:49

Hope everything's ok now twilight xxx

Twighlightsparkle Wed 05-Feb-14 13:54:36

Thanks guys, she's fine now, think she picked it up at a party on Sunday. Grrrrrrrr.

I thought I was doing well letting her go, in the past I've not. However I think she enjoyed the party so much it was probably worth it for her!

Hello everyone, another stomach bug going around DSs' school. They are dropping like flies again. I was there yesterday in reception to pick up DS2 for the dentist, sat next to an abandoned sick bucket sad

So I've spent the last 3 or 4 days with my stomach in knots, waking all through the night at the slightest sound. I hate this. I would have hoped that the fact that we all had one in November (and I survived without being sick) means I'd be a bit more relaxed this time around but if anything I feel much more anxious.

Marne I've just read your post about immunity and that is really interesting. Mine generally tend to get a bug once every two years (as do I) but I have friends whose children (and the parents also) get sickness bugs up to 3-4 times a year. DS2's best friend is always one of the first to get it and I think this year (since Sept) he's had three now and he's always sick constantly for hours. My DSs tend to be sick no more than about 3 times, often just the once. DH is always just sick once. So perhaps (she says hopefully) we have good immune systems.

Twighlightsparkle Fri 07-Feb-14 09:25:08

I read somewhere that no reovirus ( I think the article was specifically about norovirus) affects people differently depending on their blood type.

I'm not sure how that works, but I work with someone who in 13 years I've known her ( we work with kids in hospital) has never had a vomiting bug, she says she was a teenager the last time she vomited.

devilinside Fri 07-Feb-14 10:21:59

Hope everyone is ok. DS was off yesterday, feeling sick and slight temperature, but that was it, no v'ing. Nightmare time of year, a few worrying facebook posts are appearing. Roll on half term when I can hibernate and not worry about bugs for a whole week. I know it's going around at school

Marne Fri 07-Feb-14 13:53:22

I'm counting down the days to half term so we can shut ourselves away for the week, dd's break up on Thursday so only 4 school days to get through ,doesn't seem to be any bugs at school at the moment other than a bad cold that's doing the rounds. Dh woke up feeling ill this morning but I think it's just man flue, dd2 was coughing this morning and looking pale ( but I can deal with this ).

I think people can build a good I unity to these things, dh has only been sick once since we have been together, he has been married before and had children, apparently when they were younger he always picked up their bugs, I'm thinking maybe he built up immunity as he rarely gets anything ( unlike me), when the dd's are ill it's usually me that gets it. I'm not sure about the blood type thing though, there was so ting I read a while ago suggesting that one blood group may be immune to noro but I don't think this is true.

Newcurtainsplease Fri 07-Feb-14 14:10:20

I am tapping the wooden table as I write this! I haven't had a sickness bug for over 30 years. The only times I have been sick since I was a child is through alcohol excesses!

Newcurtainsplease Fri 07-Feb-14 14:11:11

And I am A blood group

Marne Fri 07-Feb-14 17:34:44

I'm A negative, and have had a couple of bugs since having the dd's but went through high school without catching anything.

Twighlightsparkle Fri 07-Feb-14 20:19:24

I'm A+ and tend to catch them, and always have . Probably bad hand washing as a child and now close proximity to children!

Marne Fri 07-Feb-14 21:11:58

Twighlight, I never washed my hands as a child, was quite a dirty child, was rarely sick ( just the odd bug ), there never seemed to be many bugs around ( not like now ). I think I have been sick more times as a parent than as a child.

devilinside Sat 08-Feb-14 15:57:48

I don't think there were that many bugs around when we were young, firstly there wasn't the emphasis on needing constant entertainment, soft play, toddler groups etc., and then endless parties and playdates, it just creates an opportunity for norovirus to spread.

Every single bug my DC have caught has been after soft play, after a party or after a playdate with a child who has D (and been told by the parents that it was a dairy allergy or they were no longer contagious) The reason it's rife is because most people don't give a damn about spreading it

Twighlightsparkle Sat 08-Feb-14 23:13:50

I agree it's a lot to do with attitude. People don't care for others so much nowadays. Parents having difficulty taking time off work too.

The bug my 5 year old had this week was contracted at a party. She was due to go to me today, she had forgotten and so I didn't take her, just can't do it!

Aghhh I've been struck down with the bug. It happened Friday night. I had horrible diarrhea and felt like being sick all night but wasn't (through sheer will probably). Then Saturday morning DH had a piece of chocolate and as a reaction to the sound of him chomping I come the closest to being sick since I was 16 but nothing in my stomach so I was ok. But now I'm here to tell the tale on the other side, with just that horrible taste of sulphur in my mouth left over. I guess I should be thankful that I can get a bug and not be sick. I can only think I picked it up when I picked up DS2 from school for the dentist. So far everyone else is ok although DS2 didn't eat anything yesterday and said he felt sick (rushing to the loo but nothing happening). He says he has a funny taste today so perhaps he had it really, really mildly.

Marne Sun 09-Feb-14 10:34:08

Glad you were not sick Becky ,I have had a few bugs without being sick ( but felt very sick), last year dd1 had a bug and was not sick ( just wretched) ,I think our phobias often rub off on our kids and then they try so hard not to be sick.

Twighlightsparkle Sun 09-Feb-14 11:47:40

Last time I had one I took not mot ilium defiantly helped.

Glad you survived xxxxx

Marne Sun 09-Feb-14 12:37:10

Me too Twighlight, I love my motilium smile makes me feel a little less anxious knowing theres something I can take that will help.

ephemeralfairy Mon 10-Feb-14 14:24:55

Glad everyone is surviving! I had a bad night, we had baked chicken legs last night for dinner and I convinced myself that mine was undercooked and I was going to get food poisoning and end up vomiting. I was absolutely fine but I barely slept through worrying. The constant anxiety and intrusive thoughts are exhausting. sad

DP thinks I'm worse with it when stressed about other things, we are moving in a few weeks and I'm having a lot of problems with my relationship with my mum (whole other thread...!). I'm not sure, I am bad at the moment but put it down to it being winter, plus we have been viewing flats and so I've been in contact with lots of different people.

what do you think?

ephemeralfairy I know how horrid that feels. I remember DH cooking a chicken and I was convinced it was undercooked. I refused to eat it and he ate it instead and I spent the whole night worrying about him! (I also worry about everyone else vomiting.)

I think stress does make phobias worse. Winter of course makes this particular one worse.

I'm still not well. I'm eating though. Food is just going straight through me sad.

justmuddlingalongsomehow Mon 10-Feb-14 23:42:30

Becky that sounds horrible but you've coped amazingly!!!! xx

justmuddling thank you. I just wish each time I came close it would help with the next time. But I feel panicky again, not about me catching anything but about DH. He has it now and he wants to take a bucket to bed. He cannot see why that is anxiety city for me. I can just about cope with children being sick (due to necessity) but the thought of a grownup being sick in the same room as me, in the middle of the night, terrifies me. He doesn't get it. He keeps on going about 'but its practical in case I don't make it to the toilet'. I feel sick with nerves now about going to bed. Thing is, he probably won't be sick, he hasn't yet. But he doesn't get my phobia about this. He totally gets my fear of catching something but not my fear of being close to sickness.

Marne Thu 13-Feb-14 08:08:59

Hope you had a ok night Becky, if it was my dh I think I would have slept downstairs or made him sleep downstairs. Hope he is feeling better and wasn't sick xxxx

Triliteral Fri 14-Feb-14 08:09:55

Wow, just found this thread. justmuddling, your Christmas nightmare drew a few tears from me. Becky, I HATE when my husband needs a bucket in the bedroom. Hope you managed to get through. The whole thread just resonates with me. One of the great things about living in Norway... no Christmas parties in the last week of term. That used to drive me mad and I could never understand why they couldn't have them a week earlier.

Definitely better now they're older. 16, 14 and 9. 9 year old is also emetophobic (for which I feel horribly guilty) but there is a good side because he avoids public toilets (including those at school) religiously and he is very good about washing his hands.

Anyway, just... well this is a lovely supportive thread and I wanted to join in.

Hello DH was fine, he wasn't sick at all so all good. Now I feel so much more relaxed, for a while at least! I did say to DH I'd sleep in DS1's bed (he has a double) but I didn't need to in the end.

DS3 yet again got away with not catching the bug. That boy is an enigma. Touch wood but he's never had a stomach bug and he's 4 years old. How is that even possible?

YoureAllABunchOfBastards Sat 15-Feb-14 08:07:43

DS2 was sick several times last night. I can just about bring myself to hold the bucket but it nearly finished me off - had to get DH to take over.

He has just appeared and asked for breakfast. Oh God, please no more sick.

justmuddlingalongsomehow Sat 15-Feb-14 09:28:13

Oh you poor thing - I wouldn't give him breakfast yet... maybe try some water first and see if it stays down. Glad he managed a bucket. Is DH still with you?

jennifleurs Sat 15-Feb-14 09:43:13

Hi waves

Can I join?

I suffer emetophobia too.

I'm LP so do struggle when DS is poorly as there's only me here. My newest coping mechanism is headphones and Dettol surface spray. I listen to classical music when DS is (thankfully rarely) poorly or I feel it myself. It does help to distract me a lot.

devilinside Sat 15-Feb-14 12:41:58

Well done Becky, never in a million years would I sleep in the same bed with DP feeling sick with a bucket, I would run for the hills (or sleep on the sofa!!) Hope everyone else is OK.

I need some sense talked into me, yesterday was an inset day, and I stupidly allowed the DC to choose where they went. DS chose soft play and wouldn't budge and do a less, um, risky activity! (he has ASD)

Fast forward today, and we are going away for the night to visit elderly relatives, This means us all in a Travelodge type place in one room. My brain is already going into meltdown, what the hell would I do, DP will think I'm completely nuts if I take bleach and latex gloves with me. DC will be in the SAME bed, HELP

YoureAllABunchOfBastards Sat 15-Feb-14 12:49:46

We have had one more vomit. But he ate some dry toast at 10.30am and is showing no signs of throwing up again. DH is still here, thankfully - he understands my complete inability to deal with puking.

jennifleurs Sat 15-Feb-14 21:25:09

devilinside are you worried because they're ill? Or because they possibly might be?

Triliteral Sun 16-Feb-14 14:10:05

devilinside, my ds vomited once when we were in Premier Inn at maybe 3am in the morning. Luckily he managed to get to the bathroom but there was a little bit of a mess on the toilet basin. I went to reception and asked for cleaning materials and they could not have been more helpful, even going so far as to offer to come along and clean the toilet for me (I refused... I'd prefer to rely upon myself not to spread any bugs around!). I can't imagine you'd need to take any cleaning materials. The hotel will have access to everything you might need in an emergency.

That notwithstanding, they'll probably be fine anyway. And I guess by the time I'm posting this, the night may have passed anyway. Best of luck.

devilinside Sun 16-Feb-14 19:42:45

They were ok, blush My mind went into overdrive wondering how I would cope. Good to hear they would supply cleaning materials in an emergency

Quellerosien Mon 17-Feb-14 14:51:20

Mind if I interlope? Not a mum yet...

I am SO glad it is not just me with this horrific phobia! It really can take over your life. I am not as yet a mum but hope to be one day and just feel like I will not be able to cope with the idea of even TTC at this point. I want kids a lot but the thought of everything that goes with it just chills me to the bone.

Completely hate it when people go "oh well no likes being sick do they?" SO VERY UNHELPFUL!! And breathe...

Did you guys still find it possible to enjoy pregnancy/kids even with this horrible thing? I just worry that it will suck all of the enjoyment out of the whole experience and turn it into something to be endured.

Marne Mon 17-Feb-14 16:33:37

Dd1 has just been brought home early from her friends house as her friend was sick, poor dd is shaking and crying sad, can't believe I have passed this horrid phobia onto her. I'm trying to stay calm to calm her down, he friends was sick outside a supermarket, the boys mum drove them straight home, keeping her son in the front and dd in the back and then called us before bringing her straight back here. I was out when she was brought home, dh was here, dd1 took all her clothes off and was in bed shaking when I got home, I have bathed her and calmed her down a little. Fingers crossed she will be ok.