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Emetophobia- new thread as other was full, all welcome.

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Marne Sun 23-Dec-12 13:45:56

Hope you all manage to find this smile, i just used up the last post on the other thread.

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Marne Sun 23-Dec-12 13:52:28

oops, i thought as i posted it that i should have checked to see if anyone else had done it first grin.

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Marne Sun 23-Dec-12 13:56:54

Dd2 is now asleep, she must be poorly as she rarely sleeps at night let alone during the day. Hopfully she will sleep it off and feel better when she wakes up.

reastie Sun 23-Dec-12 13:57:42

Hi all, just marking place. The last thread fell off my threads I'm on a few days ago and so I lost you - hope everyone is OK? I'll go catch up on the last thread.

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Marne Sun 23-Dec-12 14:19:06

Lets hope we can all get to tomorrow with no V (then i know we are safe as we havn't been anywhere sinse school broke up). I'm sat her watching dd2 sleeping, worried she will V when she wakes up, dh has vanished (upstairs watching the football) so if she is ill i will have to deal with it with dd1 (who is also petrified of V so will probably run upstairs).

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Marne Sun 23-Dec-12 15:11:43

Thank you BB (will add these to my huge medicine cupboard) smile

Dd2 is now awake, still poorly but no V (has to be a good sign?), she's now watching tv, i'm getting fed up with watching Power rangers smile.

Crimebusterofthesea Sun 23-Dec-12 15:23:59

Hello! I'm joining if that is ok? - I've had emetophobia since I was about 11 (am 28 now) and throughout this time I have had awful times and better times. Lots of my family have had norovirus in the last couple of weeks and it's all I can bloody think about. Have had one full on panic attack and have that horrible heavy feeling in my tummy today. Not good. Just want to enjoy Christmas without this phobia just for once.

Marne Sun 23-Dec-12 15:40:41

Welcome Crimebuster, so sorry you are feeling anxious too, this time of year is always the worst sad.

devilinside Sun 23-Dec-12 15:49:33

They could both have the same bug DS just had, really bad tummy pains for 2 days - I spent all of yesterday rubbing his tummy as he was crying out in pain.

No D & V and he is back to normal today. Eating, bouncing around the house.

I was in town today and this woman was having a conversation with someone just behind me and she passed by me, breathed on me, with the words 'and there is sickness too!' Thanks for that!

I don't know how but we all managed to escape the nasty sickness bug that swept through DSs's school in November / early December. I feel a bit better now they have broken up and Christmas is coming. Hopefully we'll have a couple of weeks of good times, same for you all here.

Even our milkman left a note saying 'I've had a nasty sickness bug so I couldn't collect my money last night' and stupid me had really bad indigestion two nights later and told DH 'I bet I've got the milkman's bug off the milk bottles!' He reassured me and said that was very, very, very unlikely.

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Hello BB smile

Marne Sun 23-Dec-12 19:22:35

Dd2 still led on sofa sad but the good news is she is sneezing and coughing so looks like its a cold rather than noro. Hopfully she will feel better tomorrow after a good nights sleep.

InNeedOfBrandyButter Sun 23-Dec-12 19:27:04

Glad se hasn't started Marne!

Dd has been fine all day until I let her have a biscuit and now she tells me she has butterflies. Because she knows I'm scared of it I'm sure she down plays it and just says she's fine when shes not. Or maybe it was a one off and she's ok now. Argh I jut want to relax and by worry for days and days that were going to get ill.

roundabout1 Sun 23-Dec-12 21:48:26

marne - your poor dd, but glad it seems like a bad cold rather than a tummy thing. Try to relax a little bit now, hard though I know.

in need - glad your dd seems ok now, hope she isn't playing it down.

I had a mini panic as my neighbour knocked the door & gave us a card earlier, said oh no have you got a cold, I said yes. She said well a month ago I had flu & then I just got better & had the noro so was in bed 2 days. I panicked, stupidly as it was weeks ago anyway, and just because she had it doesn't mean I will & tbh it could have been the tail end of flu anyway & she is prone to stomach bugs anyway.

Marne Mon 24-Dec-12 05:20:13

We have been up with dd2 most of the night, no V though, just refusing to sleep after she slept a lot yesterday, she's now snoring on the sofa and her temp has come down a little. I just hope no one else comes down with it over christmas. Hopfully dd2 will feel better now shes had a bigger sleep. Hope you have all made it through the night. Its now monday so we should be safe smile.

Someone posted graffic details of a child with V on fb last night which has put me on edge, they dont live far from me but i keep telling myself 'we will be fine' as we are not going anywhere' but we have the step children on boxing day and i'm worried they will bring a bug with them (as they are quite sociable over christmas and spending christmas day with neices and nephews).

Happy christmas-eve everyone xxxxx

Gingerbreadlatte Mon 24-Dec-12 05:35:58

Please can I join you all?
Can't write much now but I'm an emetephobe too, have been since 15 ish and im now 35.

Also got noro paranoia esp as my Dh works in hospital though is non medical.

Gbl x

Marne Mon 24-Dec-12 05:52:08

<waves to Gingerbreadlatte> welcome smile

InNeedOfBrandyButter Mon 24-Dec-12 06:31:03

Hi gingerbread

Marne so glad you made it through the night, we did good here to smile, ad no more school to worry about for a while!

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InNeedOfBrandyButter Wed 26-Dec-12 00:42:20

Hope everyone had a great Xmas

Dd was sick again about half 9, luckily (sort of) my step dad and grandad cleared it up. My mum has cream carpets I had no idea how I'd be able to get it out of a carpet but they just took over. So glad it's not my house not my room bot me that cleaned it up and there's 2 bathrooms at my mums. She's also sleeping in the same room as my mum and stepdad so I don't even need to be near her to tonight (how awful that sounds)

Am really puzzled about what has caused this all, thinking of taking her to the drs. Am dreading having to clear it up again in a couple days time if it keeps happening and it doesn't seem like a bug.

InNeedOfBrandyButter Wed 26-Dec-12 00:44:09

Shit now The thought of what if I'm sick at my mums in my sleep while I'm in the living room.

Should I cancel guests tomorrow to?

reastie Wed 26-Dec-12 07:07:50

Inneed sad what a rubbish end to your christmas. Does your DD seem OK in herself other than the sickness? Is she eating normally? How old is she? that's alot of questions If she seems fine and normal in herself it could have yesterday been rich food or the excitement of christmas? I'm sure you'll be OK and I really doubt you'd be sick whilst asleep. Re: guests tomorrow, personally I'd hate to go to someones house whose DD has been sick the evening before, it would send me into anxious hyperdrive and I would wish if I were going to your house you would have cancelled. But, I'm emet so my reaction is different to 'normal'. If you think your DD might have a bug and be contagious I'd say cancel personally. Or just ring them up and tell them what happened and give them the choice, that's probably the best thing as then it's up to them. Hope you're coping OK.

Christmas here was nice. My Grandad died a couple of days ago so it was quite sad really. I woke up and not sure if I nearly fainted or nearly had a panic attack but felt really sweaty/clammy and sick suddenly and thought I might be sick. Took a motilium and lay down for a while and felt better thank goodness. I think it's down to the upset of GD.

Right, today we are off to the ILs and their family and I'm really worried the family will have had a tummy bug and infect us. They aren't bothered about illness like me and always seem to be ill confused .

InNeedOfBrandyButter Wed 26-Dec-12 09:07:46

She seems fine in herself just like last time. She's 7 and she's been eating normally. She did stuff herself with Pringles right before bed and had tea to.

I for some strange reason am not that bothered, normally I'd be washing my hands a million times anD not wanting to be in the same room as her. For some reason I feel fine, apart from a few mini wake up in the night sick feeling which as soon as I start breathing I'm fine.

My nan doesn't get bothered in the slightest over catching bugs so I know she will still want to come. I am going to ring and tell everyone and if they come that's up to them. Would quite like it if they all didn't tbh.

Not sure what to do about dd as she's fine again now and running about and wanting breakfast.

roundabout1 Wed 26-Dec-12 16:27:50

in need - sorry about your dd & the added worry & stress for you. I hope she is ok now, wanting to eat is a good sign. I do think kids cant judge how much to eat and when there are pringles & chocolates as well as the big meal she could well have many herself ill through eating too much & over excitement, I hope this is what caused it.

reastie - sorry about your grandad, that on top of all the usual Christmas stress as well as the emet stress will be bound to make you feel poorly. Hoep you have a good day today.

Our festivities have been a bit rubbish tbh, I am feeling really bad with this cold/flu thing & we have had lots of family stress over the last few days. The kids loved their presents though although have behaved awfully today!

stef06 Thu 27-Dec-12 11:53:13

Was up in the middle of the night having nightmares about 'v' I hate this phobia. My son goes upto Scotland for a week tommorow and I was going to take him toys 'r' us today to spend his Xmas voucher but I'm scared if I go he might catch it after seeing other people posts on fb about having it Xmas night and Boxing Day thinking of all the people going shopping etc. am also worried about by son getting it at service stations etc and bringing it home with him by which time my dp will be back at work I'm so scared right now but don't want to ruin my last day with my son! Should I take him to the shop as promised or not?

ItsOkayItsJustMyBreath Thu 27-Dec-12 12:34:19

Hello everyone <waves to reastie!>

Can I please join you?

Have had emetophobia since approx the age of 3 and it completely rules my life. Have seen numerous professionals and had tonnes of therapy but still the same (except I can say bucket and the number 6 confused).

Really feel for those of you going through tough times atm, stay strong, it will pass and you'll have some immunity for a few months after.

Belgian I have just ordered the kit and gel, thank you for the link!

I've had such a stressful christmas, haven't been able to eat properly since XOH left at the beginning of Nov, we have 22 month ds who is my world but also the most anxiety provoking thing I've ever been through; I still go to bed scared that he'll be 'ill' in the night.

I have now lost over a stone in the past month and scared because I feel so nauseated all the time that I can't eat sad

Anyway, sorry for the massive moan. I'm doing dinner for family today which I won't eat and they'll be worried etc but I can't change it.

reastie Thu 27-Dec-12 18:35:36

<waves to ItsOK > a stone since November? shock but there's nothing of you anyway! Hope the dinner went OK and leaving DS was as alright as it can be.

I think one of my friends thinks I'm a bit insane blush . I'm due to see her and her DS tomorrow and sent her an email saying I was still looking forward to seeing her but just to check they are all healthy and made up some excuse about DD and not wanting her to get ill again. She hasn't replied hmm . I'm just so scared somehow they will have had noro and we will go to their house into potential noro germs. I'd say about 50% of the time DD sees this friend she ends out getting a bug from him (as he always seems to be ill) but so far just cold based ones. Hopefully she will be all healthy and won't think I'm too crazy blush

Stef I was having v dreams last night too sad . What did you do re: the shopping?

InNeed I hope your DC is all fine now still and things went well yesterday.

ItsOkayItsJustMyBreath Thu 27-Dec-12 19:10:29

Oh reastie, I'm sure she doesn't think you're insane! She's probably just busy with christmassy stuff. Try not to worry (I know, impossible), DD's immune system must have had a bit of a boost recently from her cold so it could make her more resilient fx.

I have started a fred in chat about the weight thing as getting comments now and it worries me. All i managed today was a ryvita and that was so that my prozac didn't give me heartburn. I was diagnosed with anorexia nervosa when the emet was severe in my 20's (I weighed 5stone 7) but it wasn't that I wanted to be thin, I just didn't want to eat because I was frightened about having stuff in my stomach.

I hate v dreams; they are so horrid. It's like your mind is torturing you, so sorry sad

funkypigeon Thu 27-Dec-12 19:43:02

Hi, can I join? I've had this awful phobia since I was a child, but it's become worse since I had the kids. I just torture myself with irrational fears about v mostly all the time, more so of course during the winter. If I could escape from it all I would!

I'm constantly on at the children to wash their hands well, and if I've heard someone has had D&V I just go into meltdown and become dysfunctional. I hate it- wish I could get better. I try to 'fake it until I make it' with regards my children- ie I put on this calm exterior when they do get sick but inside I'm crying and feeling so, so alone and scared. I did get some CBT recently, but unfortunately had to be discharged because of my work schedule and the appointment times always clashed (I work shifts).

I'm also a single mum, so I don't have anyone else to carry the burden with during these long winter months, that seem to go on forever.

I'm ok these days with the odd vomit (my youngest is chronically asthmatic so vomits when he's coughing badly), it's just the dread of noro that frightens the life out of me. Why am I so scared? What is it? If I could only get to the bottom of why it is I get so, so debilitated from it.

InNeedOfBrandyButter Thu 27-Dec-12 19:48:57

Thanks for the hand holding! Really appreciate it! Dd is fine sure it was over excitement because she's not acted at all ill.

4 more months everybody!

Marne Thu 27-Dec-12 20:04:45

Hi, have tried to stay away over christmas as trying to take my mind off V and trying to relax a little. Today was our last busy day (visiting family) and now we are a almost a week into the christmas holidays i am starting to panic about the kids returning to school, there has been no major d&v outbreaks at our school yet so i know its only a matter of time (as it seems to happen at some point every year), i so wish i could keep them at home for the winter, i wish it would snow lots so the schools have to close sad.

We dont have much planed for the rest of the holidays but the dd's will want a trip to toys r us to spend their christmas money next week, luckily they are not keen on shopping so will decide what they want before we go so its a quick 'in, grab what they want, pay and go' followed by washing hands.

InNeedOfBrandyButter Thu 27-Dec-12 20:07:40

Does the cold kill the bug off or is that just an old wives tale.

Marne Thu 27-Dec-12 20:41:08

Sadly i think its an old wives tale sad, you are more likely to get ill when its cold (which is why noro is rife in the winter), noro is hard to kill with very high or very low temps (so they said on the news). sad

devilinside Fri 28-Dec-12 11:27:07

Hello everyone, I hope we all managed to survive Christmas V-free!.

It was quite stressful with a houseful of people staying, I was worried about them v'ing through overeating, rather than noro. None of my relatives have children, so are rarely exposed. My dad works with children though, so he's always a concern, but I quizzed him before he came to visit (turns out he had it two weeks ago, phew!)

I find being antisocial is the best way to avoid noro (although i hate myself for that).

Now, deciding whether I can possible risk softplay next week.

btw, those of you that have problems eating because of the phobia. I'm not affected that way. (which I suppose is a relief, although I do need to lose at least a couple of stone!). I only stop eating on the odd occasion there is noro in the house

InNeedOfBrandy Fri 28-Dec-12 14:34:44

Argh it just said on the radio noro is up 83% compared to last year. <hides>

reastie Fri 28-Dec-12 15:16:55

I know inneed - I heard that too sad . I feel every week now as the stats come out I have a massive wobble for a few days when I hear how bad it is, then improve a bit then as soon as the next weeks stats are in and always bad I get worse again. I'll look into the stats later and see if it's really as bad as they say it is and report back any good news I can make of the figures <hopeful>

devil i am very antisocial at the minute too, although Dh is trying to plan family trips out together next week and I really want to look forward to them but feel dread in the pit of my stomach. We are choosing outdoor based things (like the zoo) so although I'll need to use their loos etc, hopefully I'll just wash hands really well and make DD wear gloves and hope this will be enough

devilinside Fri 28-Dec-12 15:39:42

Another cruise ship infected according to the news sad I wouldn't be surprised if the figures are up at the moment. Most people seem to carry on regardless over Christmas, and spread the virus around to each other.

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Marne Fri 28-Dec-12 16:47:07

Devil- it doesn't really stop me from eating (in a way i wish it did as i am over weight).

We just watched the news here too sad apparently there are 1 million cases of noro (they are guessing as only 2,500 conformed), they are advising people to stay in for 72 hours if they think they have it and only go to the gp if your baby has it or if you are elderly), and they also said that in the past it has peaked in Jan but this year it seems to have peaked in Dec (so if it has peaked than cases should start dropping over the next few weeks), i am hoping the worst is not yet to come.

Marne Fri 28-Dec-12 16:56:04

Oh and i am no sociable at all (hense why i'm on here all the time), i want to start swimming after christmas, dh wants me to go to the the local pool as it costs a couple £ to go but i would rather go to the one at the 4 star hotel up the road as its small and only elderly people seem to swim there (as its too deep for kids), i think theres less chanse of picking up a bug there, trouble is it costs £5 (so a lot more).

I went to a sale today at a local shop, it was packed, i grabbed a t-shirt for dd2 and made my way to pay, the que was huge and people were stood very close (people were coughing and sneezing over each other) so i put the t-shirt back and walked out. I did go to the sales yesterday but got there very early so there was hardly anyone else in the shops (was home by 10am and had a bath as soon as i got in). Would love to be able to drag the family out on a shopping trip but i just cant do it, the thought of them all touching everything, using public loos and then going to get something to eat scares me so much, at least when i go alone i can make sure i wash my hands well and i only touch what i have too (open doors with my elbows or my knee).

ItsOkayItsJustMyBreath Fri 28-Dec-12 18:10:45

Another non sociable one here, I went out today as had to go to the bank but made sure I wore my gloves to touch anything (they're now in the wash!).

reastie, I prefer outside trips too, I wish the rain would clear up so I can take ds to the park as that feels much safer than soft play not going to happen!. I hope you manage to go and enjoy yourselves though.

Marne, That's great that you went shopping today, I think lots of people hate the sales anyway and I bet lots of people put things back rather than queue up so don't worry about that. I'm with you on the swimming thing, I would much rather pay more to feel more comfortable (if only my bank balance would let me!).

Well, I have managed to eat almost all of a pannini today which is progress. I weighed myself this morning and am 55kgs so not too bad. Honestly though, I would love to lose weight through dieting instead of being scared. I feel nauseated all the time atm and it's not good for ds to see his mum not eating. I was going to have some toast and marmite for tea but my tummy is in knots again so will wait until tomorrow now.

reastie Fri 28-Dec-12 18:28:16

Marne I agree to re: the swimming - I spend more on certain activities etc because they feel 'safer' if I do. Well done on going to the sales though.

ItsOK well done on eating a pannini - that's really good progress (that sounds a bit patronising but I don't mean it to be), little steps and you'll get there.

Having a massive wobble about going back to work. I don't know if you remember I was signed off work for 3 weeks before christmas. There was a tummy bug and suspected noro at the school I work at and I couldn't cope with it all. I want to go back but I'm so scared of noro still. I guess I thought in my head if I can just get to christmas then it will all go away - turns out it hasn't! I don't know how I'm going to cope with it. I just want to do my job without the worry of this!

Saw a friend and her DS today. She asked me to meet up with her at a local soft play in a few weeks <shudder>. I couldn't think of an excuse as to why I couldn't so looks like I shall have to either muster the strength to brave it or just make up some reason why I can't meet her for a while confused . I'm so anti social aren't I?!

Marne Fri 28-Dec-12 19:44:35

Wish i could stay away from the 'noro threads', i had to post when someone was saying how they were preparing food for guests whilst recovering from noro, shock this makes me even more worried about going to peoples houses and eating out, some people just dont think or care about others getting ill sad.

ItsOkayItsJustMyBreath Fri 28-Dec-12 19:53:08

I know Marne, I have asked mn hq to remove the thread from discussions of the day as it's just too horrible. Just did the ironing and heard it on the news, there's no escape form hearing about it is there? I have everything crossed that it has peaked now and will start to disappear for good from now on.

reastie, I was thinking about you returning to work. I would be feeling anxious too but try to remind yourself that the school will have had a big clean during the holidays and that as the virus hit it hard before the holiday that the students' immunity will be a lot better now and it'll have moved on now.

InNeedOfBrandy Fri 28-Dec-12 19:55:16

I feel drawn to all the puke threads to.

roundabout1 Fri 28-Dec-12 19:56:34

Strangely noro talk on here doesnt bother me but on fb or the news & obviously real life scares the life out of me. I had to go to the doctors this morning (a chest infection) & it was very quiet as hardly any doctors working, panicking now as I cant remember how throughly I washed my hands afterwards. Silly really as I know I washed them numerous times after getting my medication out of the chemist bag & used a sanitizing (kills noro) wipe on my keys, phone & zip on my coat - am sure I would have done my hands properly too!

reastie Fri 28-Dec-12 21:01:08

itsok I'm laughing at the idea the school cleaners will have deep cleaned where I work - clearly you don't know how useless our cleaners there are hmm confused . I had to look at the noro DOTD in some morbid fascination then wished I hadn't. Tbh even seeing the word in any context makes my heart race, so I hate the DOTD at the min - there was one before christmas too which made me anxious so I avoided mn so I didn't have to see it up there blush

roundabout I have to see the GP on new years eve re: her checking how I am after all my anxiety. She particularly wanted to see me on that date as she's off alot over the holidays and I nearly didn't make the appointment as my logic is who goes to see a GP on new years eve unless they're really ill confused . I'm sure you washed your hands really well automatically without thinking or realising IYKWIM

spacechimp Sun 30-Dec-12 00:55:40

Hello, hope everyone was able to relax a bit over Christmas. I am just back from a week staying with both sets of parents which was mostly ok. I think it was all a lot easier staying with my parents as dmum is also scrupulous about hygiene and made big contribution to development of my emet and other anxiety issues and dsis is also emet so was avoiding pre Christmas events with her dcs. Managed to do visits to relatives and also stay at dh's parents and do visits there, and visit service station cafe and toilets on way home today without getting stressed. Have also stayed away from Internet which helped. But - news reports re high levels of noro freaking me out again as is the thought of returning to work. Am probably being completely stupid but have to go and pick up a parcel from post office from relative who emailed to say she had noro the week before Christmas, so am now thinking I will handle with gloves and just chuck presents away for fear of exposure. Is this completely ridiculous? WWYD?

Marne Sun 30-Dec-12 09:19:01

Hi Spacechimp, i'm sure the parcel will be fine, noro survives on surfaces for 12 hours but longer on fabric, as long as its not clothes it should be fine, if it is clothes then stick it straight in the wash (on a hot wash).

We are braving Toys R Us today, it opens at 11am so we will get there as soon as it opens (before too many people go in there touching everything and in hope that the 12 hour thing is right), we are then treating the girls to McDonalds which we shall eat in the car. grin. I hate having to plan every trip out around noro (making sure we go early, plan what we are going to buy, make sure i have wipes, soap and hand gel and make sure everyone washes hands before we eat).

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SpannerPants Sun 30-Dec-12 20:55:13

Hi everyone, fellow emetophobe signing in sad

DS had noro 2 weeks ago and i hoped that was it, but we had friends over today and their daughter v'd on our carpet twice and they said "oh she was sick a few times this morning too" so I'm on high alert sad I feel so panicky and can't relax, and DS is obviously coming down with something now - he's got a temperature and keeps waking up crying. I hate feeling like this!

I'm having difficulty eating too because of it, I've lost 4 stone since March and I'm getting to the point where I need to do something about it but don't know where to start.

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alexle Sun 30-Dec-12 21:33:35

Can I join you all? I have had this phobia since childhood and have had times when it's been really debilitating and other times when I've been able to manage it a little better. I have a 19 month old little boy who I absolutely adore. However, I have been really struggling since he got a stomach bug a few months ago. I am constantly anxious about him being sick and whether I will be able to look after him. Also terrified that I will catch something from him. Last time he was ill I couldn't eat and spent hours scrubbing my hands and cleaning everything. I really felt that i was going mad with anxiety and had such a strong urge to escape. The guilt I feel about not being able to be a good wife and mum is awful. The constant fear is dragging me down and I feel desperate to be better. I try not to let this affect my little boy but it is so hard to take him places at the moment with norovirus so prevalent. I am absolutely terrified of noro and I can't stop reading things that just make me more frightened. I am having cbt and although my therapist is fantastic I am feeling really low at the moment as I just don't see how I can ever get over this. I'm sorry that you are all suffering with this horrible phobia too but it is reassuring to know that there are other people who understand how I feel.

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InNeedOfBrandy Sun 30-Dec-12 22:15:29

I think it's only a matter of time before I get the bug.

My brother was ill Friday, he looked after dc and picked me up after work, had eggy burps (which I smelt so obviously breathed in) and was ill Friday and saterday. My nan also had a dodgy stomach and diarrhoea Christmas day and came over to mine boxing day! Probably dd passing her bug on and it wasn't just a anxious stomach.

My brother is coming over to look after dc tomorrow, I stupidly thought it would be better my brother did child care for me instead of them at a school holiday club and instead he's been ill to and will be sitting around my house using my toilet and drinking out my cups <wails> <<sobs>> I swear it's following me I hear about it on the news on here on Facebook and from family, I see vom everywhere there was 2 separate piles of it when I went shopping earlier, it's like it's taunting me saying youve got away with it for to long cue evil laugh.

devilinside Sun 30-Dec-12 22:47:56

InNeed have you got anti-sickness tablets? should cover you should the worse happen. Not liking the piles of Vom grin Not sure I can risk going shopping after reading that. There's nothing worse than a fresh pile of the stuff to ruin your day

spacechimp Sun 30-Dec-12 22:56:09

Thanks for reassurance re parcel Marne. Will have to collect it tomorrow so hope all ok. Hope your shopping trip went ok. I feel very on edge too Belgianbun. It seems so much harder this year and just can't put in perspective. Everything apart from staying at home with dh feels like a risk. We are supposed to be going to nye party tomorrow at friends house and am hoping no one there has had any contact with noro. Spanner I really feel for you - that is awful of friends to come over with obviously unwell dd. I would be so angry. Alexie and everyone else with dcs I admire you all so much for coping with this phobia. I wish the media would be more responsible about reporting. If they have to feature noro rates they should focus on prevention and hand washing, 48 hour rule and fact that antibac gels don't work. Otherwise they should shut up. Rates are high but no higher than Jan-Feb in other years.

InNeedOfBrandy Mon 31-Dec-12 06:31:11

If it helps devil they were on bus stops on the way back not near the shops.

I have got some thanks to recommendations on other thread.

Have to stop thinking about it and get on with it.

Hi everyone, hope it's ok if I join, my fear is mainly other people being sick as opposed to myself (though I'm not crazy about that either, luckily it doesn't happen very often).

I also suffer from a fear of death (what a bundle of laughs I am, eh?!) so I often wonder do they both arise from some sort of lack of control??

Anyway, DD had bug last month, was awful as I slept on sofa while she was in bed with DH sad. In the past when DH has been ill I've even packed my bags and went to stay with my Mum blush when I should have been at home looking after him, or at least comforting him.

Currently freaking out coz DB, who still lives at home with DM, was sent home sick yesterday...

kerstina Mon 31-Dec-12 10:56:17

Hello All. Not checked in for a while but I have been reading everyones posts. I have been poorly not with noro but a horrible flu bug. Started with pains in my legs and general not knowing what to do with yourself cause you feel so bad. I have been taking seroxat so was a bit worried about what medication i could take so I just took calpol and probably not enough as I felt sick and dizzy. That horrible hot feeling you get when you are going to be sick. Think it could have been the my temperature causing this but the next day I did not eat. I did not actually vomit by the way but probably felt lousier by not?
Anyway just drank lucozade and water but then it has left me with that horrible feeling of something in your gullet that you feel would clear if you burped or was sick( but I obviously DO NOT want that to happen) but it isn't that as it has gone on too long. Anyone any ideas what could help?

alexle Mon 31-Dec-12 12:38:49

Hi Kerstina. I get that feeling sometimes when I haven't eaten for a while. It could also be the medication and fizzy drinks on an empty stomach. Maybe try some gaviscon? That might be soothing. Hope you feel better soon. Xx

kerstina Mon 31-Dec-12 18:45:24

Hi Alexia thanks for your reply. It seems to have righted itself at the mo so I think you are right it was probably not eating and drinking fizzy lucozade something I would never normally have.

reastie Mon 31-Dec-12 18:49:10

Yes kerstina maybe just stick to water. Ginger or peppermint tea might help if you have it?

miniegg1980 Mon 31-Dec-12 21:49:24

Please can i join too? I've had this phobia for years. I had CBT for it 4 years ago which enabled me to have my 2 beautiful boys but now I'm starting to resent them and the germs they bring home. Was coping ok until a month ago when ds1 was sick everywhere (thats what it felt like) and my dh was away. Also had ds2 to deal with who is only 5 months old.

Ds1 is back at nursery on tuesday and I just want to run screaming. I want to cry all the time, don't want to kiss him or dh, just feel terrible the way i'm behaving and feel a bloody awful mother who doesn't deserve her truely beautiful boys.

Anyone actually had help that worked? Am debating hypnosis?

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InNeedOfBrandy Mon 31-Dec-12 22:57:42

Yes happy new year everyone <hugs>

reastie Tue 01-Jan-13 08:03:09

Hi mini I've tried hypnosis in the past but it personally didn't really help me. I think some things work for some people and not for others, but I looked into it and from what I can find research currently suggests CBT the most effective treatment, hypnosis seems to be more of a plaster fix which might not work in the long run, but then, if it helps you get through the winter and helps even temporarily then that's a good thing.

Belgian well said

alexle Tue 01-Jan-13 09:57:27

Happy New Year to you all. Well said BB. Xx

Dancergirl Wed 02-Jan-13 00:08:23

Happy new year to everyone.

Have just come back from a lovely holiday in Florida where I noticed the high standard of their public toilets. Immaculately clean with sensor flushes, sensor taps, well filled soap dispensers and paper towels to dry.

roundabout1 Wed 02-Jan-13 12:51:32

Happy New Year everyone

dancer - glad you had a lovely holiday, the toilets sound great, ours are often such a disgrace aren't they.

I never get to see the news normally because of dc's but just saw the high figures of noro & its got be panicking. I have had a flue type bug & now have a chest infection & need to go to the gp tomorrow. Am panicking over it now, also will having had only a few hours of sleep a night & feeling so ill anyway my immune system will probably be buggered & leave me more vulnerable? Then there's the thought of school & nursery back next week & all the germs & we have a string of hospital appointments for the dc's in jan & feb. Arghh!

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Dancergirl Fri 04-Jan-13 00:02:19

Hi hope everyone is feeling ok.

I have a couple of questions: I am determined to avoid this and have been really careful with hand washing. As for hand gels, is it true that the only one that kills noro is purell?

Also, would taking probiotics also help to avoid the virus?

Probiotics are supposed to help boost your immune system against tummy bugs but they, ironically, gave me eye-watering stomach cramps and squits (can't spell the medical term) so I couldn't take them. I think most people are fine though, I'm just a sensitive soul!

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Marne Fri 04-Jan-13 20:59:25

Panicking here, dd1 is feeling poorly and has tummy ache, looks very pale, have sent her back to bed and given her calpol but she's still awake. Trying to tell myself it cant be a bug as she hasn't been anywhere for 3 or 4 days (only the opticians this morning). She has told me that she is constipated and cant remember the last time she went so am preying thats whats wrong.

Dh informed me that the next door neighbour had noro over christmas, dh went out to do some work with him yesterday so am now panicking about that sad.

Better pull myself together and go back upstairs with her i guess sad.

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Marne Fri 04-Jan-13 21:45:40

Thanks Belgian, she's led in bed with me (talking non-stop), i now have tummy ache too but probably just anxiety, she seems a bit better but still complaining of tummy ache, hopfully she will go to sleep and not wake until the morning. She's been eating ok today which is a good sign, hopfully just constipation, dd2 has had a bit of a cough and runny nose so she might be getting that too.

I'm not looking forward to next week (back to school), the dd's go back on tuesday so at least its a short week, feels like its only a matter of time before they get ill though, so many people seem to have had it (theres not many people on my fb that dont seem to have had it visit there home at some point this winter) sad.

I keep watching the news in hope that they will report a drop in cases rather than an increase. I'm counting down the days to spring time, when the sun shines and the bugs die down a little.

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Marne Sat 05-Jan-13 15:39:51

Dd1 is now fine, woke with tummy ache but has now been for a no 2 and is back to her normal self, dh and i now feel poorly but its more cold symptoms so not to worrying.

This is interesting: article about norovirus suggests some people might be immune. Touching great big huge table, practically hugging it, I have never had norovirus to my knowledge (I've had stomach bugs but not been sick since I was 16). So sat here hoping I'm one of the lucky few!

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Dancergirl Sun 06-Jan-13 20:23:30

Very interesting article. I don't know whether to be relieved thinking I'm immune or lucky that I haven't been hit yet!

I'm 40 and (touch wood) have NEVER been sick as an adult. I've felt nauseous many times though. Last year I had a tummy bug with really bad stomach pain and diarrhoea for a few days. Could that have been noro but without the v? Or just a different type of bug?

Marne Sun 06-Jan-13 21:14:36

I have had it at least twice sinse having the dd's, before having them i hadn't been sick sinse i was 10 (ish), got through high school without being sick and through my teens.

Dd1 has had it every year from the age of 1 until she was 7, she's now gone 18 months without being sick, dd2 has had it a couple times but hasn't had it for 2 years (but when she does get it she ends up in hospital). Dh has only ever been sick once sinse i have been with him (noro when dd1 was little).

Wish i could go 40 years without being sick sad.

Dd1 has had tummy ache for 3 days now but it seems to be mainly in her head (school goes back tuesday so she's getting anxious i think).

WaynettaSlobsLover Sun 06-Jan-13 21:26:54

Hi everyone, an ex emetophobe here. I spent years absolutely terrified of being sick, due to my mums reactions when I was ill as a kid and also seeing children at school being violently ill. Used to terrify me sad. Anyway I found during pregnancy sickness that I had no choice but to give in and V if I needed to. I had a few bugs along the way and for some reason doing it a lot completely desensitised me to it. No real words of advice but I know how it feels and I know the terror sad. Xxxx

Dancergirl Sun 06-Jan-13 22:41:25

marne, it hasn't been quite 40 years, the last time I was sick I was 9.

Can I ask you, has actually being sick helped your phobia in any way? I am sure with me it's the fear of the unknown. The logical part of me thinks that if I'm sick, I might find its not as bad as I thought.

Marne Mon 07-Jan-13 15:39:40

Sadly for me, being sick has made my phobia worse sad, as a child i was petrified of anyone else being sick, or seeing V on the pavement but i didn't worry every day (like i do now) about getting ill, now i can handle my dc's being sick when i have too (can sit with them and clean it up, although i shake with fear but i can do it) but am petrified of catching it and being ill myself, i think if i knew i could not catch it i could cope with it a lot better when the dc's are ill.

Last time i was sick (with noro) i had to call my mum as i thought i was going to die (die of fear and anxiety rather than die of being sick) but tbh onces i was sick it was not that bad and i was better after 24-48 hours, both the dd's came down with it after (dd1 a few hours after i did) and i was able to sit with them and clean up as i had nothing to fear (as i already had it).

I was talking to dd1 yesterday about her birthday (which is in feb) and she said her best birthday was when she was 6, this was when we had noro, it was the best because it snowed that year and she got a whole birthday cake to her self (as we had to cancel her party, we ate the cake a few days later when we were better). To me it was her worst birthday and every birthday after i have feared it happening again sad, it will soon be here again (6th of Feb) and i'm getting anxious about being ill.

devilinside Mon 07-Jan-13 16:19:54

sadly, it made me worse as well. I didn't realise how violent noro was or how the vomiting seems like it is never going to stop (I never really had it as a child either).

I took the DC to WinterWonderland yesterday, and while we had a great day, I kept getting whiffs of you-know-what. I know that fast fairground rides coupled with copious amounts of German beer are probably to blame, but I can't help but imagine people being struck down with norovirus and the entire place being contagious.

Marne Mon 07-Jan-13 17:54:33

Well done Devil for going to winterwonderland, i have avoided anywhere with rides sinse i was about 12 (when a friend was sick on a ride), my idea of hell would be going to Alton Towers sad so sadly my dd's will never go (well not with me).

Loftyideas77 Mon 07-Jan-13 20:23:27

Apologies for crashing in on your thread everyone because I'm not an emetopobe. However, I also hate this noro season because I'm so fearful of d! If I have a tummy bug that is just v I thank my lucky stars! I feel so alone with this phobia though. Do any of you also hate d?! It's ruining my life at the moment and my anxiety levels are so high that I'm getting occasional attacks of d after meals and am sometimes loose (tmi I know) in the mornings! I could barely eat over Xmas as I'm so tense about a d attack. Hate the feel of it, the embarrassment of it and it makes me feel so washed out afterwards, I'm scared of fainting. I did once while pgsad. Anyway, just wondering if any of you could identify with anything I've said! Probably not lol!

Marne Tue 08-Jan-13 09:19:55

Welcome Lotty,

I can handle D as long as know i'm not going to V. Quite often if i get anxious about feeling sick (or if one of the dd's have been sick) i get D with anxiety (its like my body offloads so my stomach is empty and i cant V).

Do you keep D tablets incase you get it? (imodium etc..) i find having something that may stop it helps my anxiety.

My dd's went back to school today, dd2's TA is off as her dd was sick this morning (apparently they have been all ill over christmas but just with D, now her dd has it). I'm now anxious that she will be back at school tomorrow and may pass something on to dd2 (i am hoping she cant find anyone to sit with her dd and will have to stay at home). So much talk of bugs in the playground (people being ill over christmas) so now i'm extra anxious sad.

Today i have to drive a long way to go and view a puppy, i'm excited but worried incase someone in the house has had noro, have been up all night with anxiety (about driving and going into someones house without knowing if they have been ill or not).

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roundabout1 Tue 08-Jan-13 15:01:22

bb - Oh no that's all you need. I really wish people wouldn't do that, surely no one, even colleagues who take the brunt work wise when people off sick, dont want people back to work all germy spreading the bugs around.

lofty - I get very anxious regarding D but dont worry about it like with V. For me a huge part of it is the lack of control & the worry that it will happen in social situations but I also stress about actually being sick too. I find by having immodium on me at all times & Motillium 10 too it eases the worry, at least I feel prepared in case it does happen.

spacechimp Tue 08-Jan-13 17:10:17

bb - that's horrible, but I suppose better to know about colleague than not know. Every morning I dread hearing that someone has called in sick, and then try to find out what's wrong with them. So far we haven't had anyone off with v* this winter, but I fear that it's only a matter of time. Once that happens I find it very stressful at work as we work with shared computers and there are so many door handles to negotiate all day, and that's without having to use the unisex toilets sad

marne - hope all went ok with going to see the puppy, and that dd's TA does stay at home until no longer contagious. I never used to think about implications of going to other people's houses, but this year has been terrible. We had to visit a couple of sets of dh's relatives over Christmas and I felt like I was playing roulette with each one

lofty - I have had dodgy guts for as long as I can remember - linked to stress and later confirmed as IBS. When I am anxious I often get d* and so it has lost a lot of its fear for me. I don't like it, and as roundabout says it's the lack of control and fear of it happening when out in social situations. I suppose because I have had d* so much, though mostly not with a bug, it doesn't hold the same fear for me as v*.

Thinking about it, it's really just noro that scares the hell out of me because it's so violent. If there was a d&v bug going round that just involved v* a couple of times I don't think I would be so terrified. If only we could get the vaccine now! I'm living my daily life, but am on guard all the time, and it's so tiring

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Marne Tue 08-Jan-13 19:46:27

Spoke to dd's TA after school (she was picking her other dd up) and she plans on being back tomorrow, i am hoping that she wont have too much contact with dd2 in the few hours she's there. Last time her dd had a bug she came into work and 5 kids came down with d&v a few days later (luckily dd2 was off with a cold).

I dred it happening but in another way i would rather it would happen soon so i can relax a little (the dd's dont tend to get tummy bugs more than once a year).

Apparently theres a chance the uk will be hit by snow (from this weekend onwards) so keeping my fingers crossed that school will have to close for a few days (so we can stay indoors where its safe from bugs).

Puppy visit went well, house was very dirty (full of dogs/rescue dogs), they asked if i would like a cup of tea and i refused, i came home and washed my hands a few times before dashing off to do the school run.

Marne Wed 09-Jan-13 16:57:35

Hear on the radio just now that its a new strain of norovirus which has effected so many over christmas, apparently is called 'sidney 2012'.

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Marne Wed 09-Jan-13 19:25:23

Thats not as bad then BB smile

Do you think maybe there are the 2 strains out there so maybe the normal strain is no worse than most years and the 63% is the other strain (if that makes any sense).

I'm still extra anxious because of dd2's TA being at school today after cleaning up her dd's v. Have bathed dd2 and put her clothes in the was sad, i hope to god we dont get it.

Went into town today and the daffodil's are flowering alreadys, the first signs of spring (and the end of noro season), sadly i think winter is going to hit next week sad.

ItsOkayItsJustMyBreath Sat 12-Jan-13 16:36:54

Hello everyone, I hope you are all calm and healthy.

My bank balance has just taken a severe knock as I discovered this and have spent almost £60 on cleaning products shock

I had a thread in general health recently as I have been suffering with an unknown virus. I've had extreme fatigue, body aches, a slight fever and diarrhoea sad My stomach really hurt and I was petrified but wasn't s*. Someone suggested I had noro but I don't think it was, I think it was a viral thing with diarrhoea thrown in from IBS linked to stress iyswim.

I hate to cause a downer for everyone but I think the drop in cases happens at this time every year because of Christmas and NY, the HPA page says it expects case numbers to rise again sad

Marne I am the same as you in that as soon as I see daffodils etc I get sort of excited as I start thinking about spring and the end of noro season. Funny how these things can really affect your mental health!

Marne Sat 12-Jan-13 20:00:43

IsOk- i agree, cases will probably go up again as schools are now back, i am hoping we get tons of snow, enough to keep everyone indoors for a week to stop noro spreading (but this is the uk so not very likely).

Dd2's TA came back for 1 day (after her dd having d&v) and was then off for the rest of the week, so i spent all week panicking that TA might have caught it and could have passed it on to dd2 but so far she's fine. Chances are her other dd got it which will mean she will probably bring it back to school with her monday (her younger daughter goes to the school), i hope there isn't a outbreak sad.

Will be so glad when spring is here (counting down the days).

nickinoo Sun 13-Jan-13 00:19:44

Panic for me tonight, my 5 year old woke at 9pm and again at11.30 to go to the loo where she had diarrohea.

Popped her in my bed for a while as she was complaining of tummy pains which seemed to go after 10 or so mins and she laid quite happily watching match of the day with H. I have just put her back in her own bed and am terrified she is going to V next. I am never going to sleep tonight. Ugh I hate being me.

Marne Sun 13-Jan-13 09:25:47

Hope all is ok nickinoo and it was only D, its the not knowing thats the killer. it would be a lot easier if we knew what would happen (if they were going to V) then we can be ready.

I have woken up with bad tummy ache, am hoping its nothing (maybe ovulation pains) sad

CoffeeBucks Sun 13-Jan-13 13:45:34

Just checking in, have been lurking for a while but going back to work last week has made me more paranoid (bus travel, an office of 15 people whose hand washing I can't police, etc...) so it's good to get some support smile I woke up with aches and pains this morning & was panicking a bit, but yesterday I went on the first long run I've done since before Xmas, it's much more likely to be that!

nickinoo Sun 13-Jan-13 19:35:48

Thankfully all was ok, she woke up fine.

gah! I drive myself bonkers let alone my DH. It doesnt help that due to being 18 weeks pregnant the drs took me off my low dose (10mg) of citalopram for anxiety relating to emetophobia. It really did make such a difference.

ItsOkayItsJustMyBreath Sun 13-Jan-13 21:04:21

Glad to hear she's okay nickinoo, I hate that when you just don't know. So sorry to hear about the ADs, isn't there one you can take through pg?

Hello Coffee, you're brave going running, it's freezing here!! I think exercise is a fab way to burn off the adrenaline that our bodies seem to love producing and making us anxious (if that makes sense!). Remember that although you can't control other people's behaviour you are in charge of what you do so you can kill those nasty germs as much as you like.

Marne how are you? Really hope your tummy ache is over, I get ovulation pain and it can be really bad. Hope you've had a relaxing day with a hot water bottle.

I am worried about ds, he's had bowel problems since weaning and has to take a lot of laxatives in order for him to go. Today he has had 5 bouts of diarrhoea and it could be because I've been told to up the amount of meds but, then again, he could have a stomach virus and I'm so anxious tonight, waiting for him to wake up and be s* sad

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ItsOkayItsJustMyBreath Sun 13-Jan-13 21:21:53

Thanks belgian, you are absolutely right, if he does have one it has to be what I've just had so logically can't pass it back wish stupid head would understand that!

I like the positivity of your post, only 6 and a bit weeks until March, woo hoo grin

Marne Sun 13-Jan-13 21:55:10

4 weeks grin i had been to scared to look incase it was 5+ weeks.

I feel much better, just a bit bloated, i think it was ovulation pain, was low down to one side, i get it every month and i still get anxious thinking its a bug sad.

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roundabout1 Tue 15-Jan-13 21:11:11

Thanks BB I have 3 kids hospital appointments over the next two weeks & dreading going & picking it up. I'm trying to be positive.

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roundabout1 Wed 16-Jan-13 10:21:24

BB - Thanks for the reassurance. Hope your dd is ok & it wasn't anything too serious

Marne Wed 16-Jan-13 12:33:30

Hi all, have been keeping busy with new puppy and hardly thought about noro (ok well i have thought about it but not quite as much), the village just down the road from us seem to have quite a few people with noro symptoms (from reading posts on fb). I am still hoping we get lots of snow so people stop going out for a few days.

In a way i am pleased it hasn't been on the news for a few weeks but on the other hand it would be great to hear them say 'noro cases have dropped over the past 2 weeks and the worst is over with' smile, we just have to look at it as 'no news is good news'.

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florry88 Fri 18-Jan-13 12:26:03

hello Ive been about in the past .

Just wonder does anyone take seroxat and does it help with emmetophobia!??

I cant bring myself to take them incase I feel sick! My anxiety over norovirus got really bad mid dec and I went to my Gp who suggested I try it.

florry88 Fri 18-Jan-13 12:27:28

hello Ive been about in the past .

Just wonder does anyone take seroxat and does it help with emmetophobia!??

I cant bring myself to take them incase I feel sick! My anxiety over norovirus got really bad mid dec and I went to my Gp who suggested I try it.

ItsOkayItsJustMyBreath Fri 18-Jan-13 22:23:44

Hi florry, sorry you're feeling so anxious; it's been a really tough winter this year hasn't it?

I do recommend ADs for anxiety related problems. I take prozac and it has definitely made the low times that bit more bearable. I think pretty much all medication has a risk of upsetting your stomach and seroxat made me feel pretty rough when I took it but then it is different for everyone and my X was taking it and never had a problem so there's no clear answer, sorry! Could you ask for an anti emetic to take if you need it?

florry88 Sat 19-Jan-13 17:00:20

Hi, thanks for replying, hoping the norovirus "epidemic" is coming to an end!!

I am unsure re the seroxat thing as if theres no "bug talk" Im ok ish!!

Dancergirl Sun 20-Jan-13 08:59:49

Hi everyone, just checking in. Really hope everyone is feeling ok.

Are we over the worst with noro then? Does the cold weather help or is that a myth?

kerstina Sun 20-Jan-13 10:15:25

I think the cold weather must help stop the spread as it stops people going out and spreading the bug about. So I predict noro viruse will be declining sharply now.
On a lighter note was anyone watching big brother last night? Normally I cannot watch sick on the tv but it was fake sick and it was very funny! Guess there was no threat to me and it was just absurd.

kerstina Sun 20-Jan-13 10:23:28

Florry if he are really worried about taking the medicine ask for liquid form and start off on a low dose and gradually increase. It should not make you sick you just might feel a bit nauseous and not feel like eating much for a while. Seroxat would help with emetophobia in that you would still dislike sick but would feel less likely to panic about it and be more relaxed about it.
I have a feeling we are over the worst of the noro outbreak so you will probably find your fears naturally subside and you feel safer. I certainly feel a lot better although I am still washing my hands an awful lot. Perhaps only start medication if you really can't cope .

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ItsOkayItsJustMyBreath Thu 24-Jan-13 19:48:00

Oooh belgian, you've just made me a tiny little bit excited! I saw some sunshine today <faints> and all I could think of was roll on spring grin

Hope everyone is healthy.

Marne Thu 24-Jan-13 20:16:32

Feeling anxious, 3 children in dd1's class have been ill this week, all 3 were sick and all were back at school the next day, makes me so angry that no one sticks to the 48 hour rule, one of the children happens to be a boy who sits right net to dd1, he was off yesterday and back today, dd1 is getting anxious too as my phobia has rubbed off onto her.

I do hope spring is on its way.

ItsOkayItsJustMyBreath Thu 24-Jan-13 20:19:58

Oh Marne, I really think the 48 hour rule should just become compulsory in every school and workplace and if you break it then they have to send you or your child home. I know it would be difficult to enforce but if there was one rule for everyone then people couldn't claim ignorance as an excuse.

Really hope your dd is okay, have you spoken to her about emetophobia?

Marne Thu 24-Jan-13 20:42:42

She knows I have the phobia but I do my best to hide it, I reassure her that being sick is not that bad and tell her it's over with quick (even though I am petrified). She has AS and has always suffered with phobias and anxiety so chances are she will end up like me.

Marne Fri 25-Jan-13 15:49:13

And now dd1s best friend is off, probably with the bug, am now extra anxious, tomorrow I'm going to work for the first time in years (working for myself) what's the betting one of them comes down with the bug, my mums ment to be looking after them.

Also heard a parent talking to the teacher in dd2s class this morning and heard her say ' she brought up bile this morning but seems fine' as she sent her child into the classroom.

2 weeks until half term, lets hope we can make it.

roundabout1 Fri 25-Jan-13 18:46:57

Oh no Marne, they could be off with anything though (tries to be positive!) I really hope your dd's are ok. Not long til spring, & defintely roll on half term!

Hi Marne, hope your DD1 is ok. I'm here now because DS1 says he feels sick. It could be anything of course but I do worry.

I still feel as if we are are surrounded by sickness. DS2's best friend was off, apparently with norovirus, for over two weeks! I can't believe it could have been that for that long though but that's what the Dr told his mum so who am I to doubt. He's back at school now. I go to college one and a half days a week and last Monday the tutor was off with 'the sickness bug' as we were told. On Friday night I felt really unwell and TMI but was very productive, not quite 'unwell', off and on until yesterday evening. I was panicking at 3am Friday night / Saturday morning that I was going to be sick. I wasn't. DH told me it was anxiety making me feel sick.

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Marne Mon 28-Jan-13 12:52:00

Oh no Belgianbun, we seem to be surrounded by it at school too, dd1s friend is back to school today but noticed dd2s best friend was not there. Dd2 has gone on a trip today so stuck on a coach will lots of germs, this is the time of year we often get it so each day is a struggle at the moment, counting down the days until spring.

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florry88 Mon 28-Jan-13 21:17:58

Thinking of everyone , on friday i had to work at a hospital where wards were shut with norovirus, its a small cottage type hospital, I work in the outpatients part with has one toilet for all!

I wanted to phone in sick and not go so badly. I went and survived, with loads of hand washing. I was desperate for the loo but managed to hold on till I got home.

Belgianbun, hope you are ok

Littleplasticpeople Mon 28-Jan-13 21:22:45

Oh god, anyone watching bbc2?!

florry88 Mon 28-Jan-13 21:29:03

no I am taping it on planner but doubt I will manage to watch it!

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Marne Tue 29-Jan-13 12:39:57

Had to pick up dd2's meds from the hospital this morning, signs up everywhere warning of the spread of noro, luckily I wasn't there long as I got there early.

Talk of tummy bugs in the playground this morning, a parent saying how they were I'll last night, still children dropping in dd1's class sad.

I hate this time of year, luckily I don't have to go back to the hospital for 3 months which will be spring time.

I didn't watch bbc2 last night, not sure what was on but I'm pleased I did not come across it when flicking through the channels last night.

ItsOkayItsJustMyBreath Tue 29-Jan-13 14:15:06

Hello everyone,

Belgian how are you?

Marne it's infuriating that parents think it's okay to do that! angry

I watched the programme last night but couldn't watch that bit. I hope some people learnt something from it though like to stay at home whilst infectious.

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Hope everyone is ok. I watched some of the programme, but not the bit with the mannequin! Also hope some people learnt from it, but freaking out a bit this morning as a work colleague has come into work 'feeling sick'. He looks awful and sits right behind me in a shared office, so am feeling v. anxious now. Apparently he wasn't feeling well yesterday either and thinks it's something he ate. Trying to rationalise that if it was noro he would know about it by now

spacechimp Wed 30-Jan-13 11:20:05

It's worse than I thought, as apparently work colleague was v* last night. Why do people come into work when they're obviously not well? It's so selfish

spacechimp Thu 31-Jan-13 08:38:04

Is anyone around? I'm feeling annoyed with myself - got very stressed about the prospect of work and my IBS has flared up, combined with bad period pain and lack of sleep so have ended up calling in sick today. I know this is subconsciously avoiding work colleague so now feeling very guilty and know I should have made myself go in. Hopefully I will be able to go back tomorrow. Hope everyone is doing ok - it is nearly the end of Jan - only a couple more months to go...

Marne Thu 31-Jan-13 09:48:10

<hugs spacechimp>

I think I would have done the same though, I know we should staY strong and face it but sometimes it's a lot easier to avoid.

spacechimp Thu 31-Jan-13 11:01:07

thanks Marne - I know it is not helpful in general to avoid but just don't feel strong enough today. I have to be at an external work thing all day on Saturday so need to feel better for that. Had email from friend at work to say ill colleague is still ill but at work again today tho has had to be taken off rota so obviously still having symptoms angry so feel glad I am not there. Person concerned will not be working tomorrow anyway so hope I can face going in then but not use toilet and be careful with door handles etc

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devilinside Fri 01-Feb-13 22:41:11

Just posted this in chat, anyone around?

Am in a total panic as DS (asd) has just eaten 2 day old crab sticks (just one I think, the rest were shredded and strewn over the carpet) that unbeknown to me, he has been hoarding in his room.

The central heating has been on, but his room is pretty cold. I am terrified he'll get food poisoning (I'm also an emetophobe) Help

Hello. We've been beset by a weird lurgie all week. Firstly DS1: it seems to be a cold with an element of upset stomach. Then DS2 (mainly cold but no appetite) then me (I felt sick all day yesterday, had the other end once yesterday and today) and now DS3. DH is the only escapee so far. my question is can you get a cold that comes with stomach upset? Or am I imagining the extra symptoms? DS1 was sick once on Monday and had the other end once on Tuesday. DS2 hasn't had any notifiable stomach issues. Mine I've described. I just want to know if this is normal. I've never had a cold with upset stomach before. Sat here feeling sorry for myself sad so glad DH is ok.

PS Devilinside how is your DS today? Hope he's ok.

Meant to add to my symptoms: snotty nose, cough, sneezing (i.e. regular cold symptoms).

roundabout1 Sat 02-Feb-13 18:48:27

devil - how is your ds?

becky - there are bad flu viruses going round that have a stomach problems with too so I suppose you could have a mild form of that.

devilinside Sun 03-Feb-13 14:07:14

Thanks for asking, DS survived the crab stick incident with to ill-effects. I suspect they are mainly cereal and additives so probably not a prime hang-out for bacteria.

Anyway, as one crisis ends another begins. I found out his school friend had norovirus on Thurs night. I realise DS would probably be showing signs by now, I'm scared the friend will be back at school tomorrow and not be fully free of symptoms (the 'D' can last a few days)

devilinside Sun 03-Feb-13 14:09:39

Becky, Swine flu was renowned for causing stomach issues as well as cold and flu symptoms (sometimes little more than a sniffle). I strongly suspect it is still going around, although the medical profession don't acutally mention swine flu anymore.

I still feel crap. I feel shivery and achy. We had to go to 'in-laws for Sunday dinner today and after dinner I went to bed for 1.5 hours and DS1 did as well next to me! Sat here feeling really sorry for myself. My stomach is mostly ok, a bit unsettled but generally ok. Just feeling really sorry for myself. Now DH is sneezing and snotting everywhere but he doesn't feel fluey yet.

I find being a mum when ill so, so hard and I think that for me that is where my phobia comes from. I'm really scared of not being able to look after them.

Devilinside glad your DS was ok. DS2's best friend was off 2.5 weeks with norovirus recently. As far as I know nobody else in his class has had it, touching big wooden table.

Marne Mon 04-Feb-13 10:51:26

Panicking here, dd2 refused to go to school this morning (long story) so I took dd1 in and went to see the SENCO to tell her about dd2 but she was off sick, asked to speak to the head and she tells me 4 of the staff are of with d&v, anyway she then sends the TA to my house to speak to dd2, after half an hour of being here she tells me both of her kids are at home with the bug. I am now scrubbing everything she may have touched and am now worried we will be ill for dd1s birthday in we'd.

spacechimp Mon 04-Feb-13 15:29:47

Oh no Marne, that's really not what you need. At least you know what the TA touched or didn't touch in your house and can take action as needed. Really hope you all stay well.

After my panic about work colleague last week, I arrived at the day long work related event I had to attend on Saturday to find out that one of the other speakers had been off work the previous day with a 'sickness bug' along with others in her office, but that she was coming to the event shock. At least I was no longer stressed about my presentation, just about trying to avoid catching noro.

kerstina Mon 04-Feb-13 21:36:22

I thought I had got better lately not thinking about it too much but there have been more facebook updates about sickness so it is still going around here. Also their was loads of sick on the pavement when I was doing the school run and it was really windy so have been getting paranoid that we could have inhaled the viruse as we walked past! See how bad I am and how my mind works! I need to get a grip.

Marne Tue 05-Feb-13 07:43:32

Woke up feeling rough, tummy ache and feeling yuk, have taken a tablet. I'm hoping its just this cough thing I have, maybe a chest infection rather than the tummy bug. Am trying not to panic but anxious as dd's TA gave me a hug yesterday before she told me her dd's have the bug. Just need to stay healthy for dd1's birthday tomorrow.

roundabout1 Tue 05-Feb-13 10:25:09

marne - I bet you are feeling rough after the stress of yesterday, it sounds like it may have been stressful enough let alone with the emet phobia problem too. If its any consolation I am feeling yuk too, dd2 has a cold & I just feel like I'm getting it, sneezing a bit achey but no actual cold. Have had stomach ache & bloating too the last few days although had the stressful week from hell last week so it could be connected to that. Also sinus pain & a bit of a cough, wondering if its alurgy going round. Fingers crossed you will all be well for dd1's birthday tomorrow

Marne Tue 05-Feb-13 13:29:56

Thank you, feeling a bit better other than this hacking cough. Managed to make a start on dd1s birthday cake, dd2 did half a day at school today and was with her TA all morning so I'm still a little anxious about getting the bug, a lot of talk of sickness in the playground this morning too but the school sent out a message yesterday to remind everyone of the 48 hour rule.

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marne - hope your dd has a great birthday & you are all bug free. I am stressing about it even though I know of no one that has got it round here - seems to be lots of bad coughs & chesty bugs though. My stomach is so sore & am all bloated but am sure its from stressing about this & a 1001 other things kicking off right now. Wish I didn't have to worry about this thing too!

Marne Wed 06-Feb-13 11:26:17

belgian- we are down south (Dorset), most of the schools here had it before christmas but ours didn't (though a couple kids in dd2s class had it but no major outbreak).

Dd2 hasnt gone in today, she's refusing school and had a high temp (but seems fine), i went into school to tell them and they said 'there are people off in all classes with d&v'. Not sure if its noro though as people seem to be recovering quickly, a boy in dd2's class was sick on sat and was fine the next day, his little sister came down with it yesterday (was violently sick once) and is fine today but TA's children were ill for a couple days. Just hope we dont come down with it. Was excited thinking it was half term next week but then i was told 'its not until the week after' sad so another week to get through.

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Marne Thu 07-Feb-13 14:10:39

oh no sad

Marne Thu 07-Feb-13 15:47:41

Just picked dd1 up from school and she said she was the only one one her table in today. I am now freaking out as she had a friend over last night and he's off today sad. He seemed fine last night (ate a lot) am trying to tell myself 'its not the tummy bug' but there doesn't seem to be much else going around at the school. Dd1 says there are 50 children off (the school only has 150 children so thats a third off).

I dont need this right now (any time is bad but right now i cant cope at all).

devilinside Fri 08-Feb-13 11:00:28

sad Think it's going round our school too (not that I talk to many people) buckets in every class room and one outside the office where the sick children wait to be collected. DD off today with sore throat lurgy so that's one less to worry about

Marne Fri 08-Feb-13 11:31:17

Both of my dd's have gone in today, spoke to dd's TA and she said only 2 children in dd2's class have been off and only one conformed as having a tummy bug. I just hope the child who came to our house is not off with it, dd1 felt poorly last night but I think she's just anxious as she's worried she will get the bug. Lets hope the worst of it is over and after the weekend it will settle down, one week left until half term here.

roundabout1 Fri 08-Feb-13 15:06:56

marne - At least its not fife in your dd2's class, fingers crossed your dd1 will be fine. 5 more school days after today then a week off - yay!

bb - oh no at the sick children, hope you manage to stay free of it. Roll on summer!

devil- our school always seems to have buckets around in anticipation! Hope your dd gets better

Marne Fri 08-Feb-13 16:27:36

So pleased its friday grin (we made it through another week).

Went to pick dd2 up at lunch time (she did a half day) and a parent had been called in to pick up her child who was complaining of feeling sick, apparently she had the bug a few days ago and hadn't fully recovered (nice of her mum to send her back to school), the main outbreak seems to be in class 5/6 and r/1 (not my dd's classes although a lot have been off in dd1s class it seems to have calmed down a little), dd1's friend (the boy who came to our house) was back today and said he was off because he felt hot and had a tummy ache but he wasnt sick <few>.

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Marne Sat 09-Feb-13 13:38:58

Help sad

St in dd1's room with her holding the bucket, she's had tummy ache all day and not eaten much, she starte wretching 20 minutes ago but not been sick (yet), i am a mess, trying to hold it together, dd1 is very anxious, i feel guilty for giving her this phobia sad. I'm not feeling well either, i hope its just the chest cough/infection i have.

Please sent non-vomiting vibes to us. I dont think we are going to get away with it this time sad.

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Marne Sat 09-Feb-13 16:47:49

Well we had an hour of bucket hugging, pale, shaking and a little bit of wretching sad, poor thing was so upset as her tummy was hurting and she felt very sick, after lots of cuddles and reasurance (god it was hard) oh and 2 Harry Potter DVD's she now seems ok and has even asked for something to eat, i have told her to wait a while just to make sure tummy ache doesnt come back (plusw it makes it easier for me to handle if she is sick with just drink in her tummy). She's now in her room on her own whilst i have a 20 minute break. Dreading tonight though as if she is sick its always at night (appart from last time when she was only sick once) sad.

Keep sending your good vibes (i think they are working).

Dh was great and drove all the way to boots to get me more domperidone tablets so i now have 2 boxes.

She's now shouting down for food, what can i feed her that wont upset her tummy?

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Marne Sat 09-Feb-13 17:22:51

Thank you, i dont feel like i'm doing great, i have gone into 'shut down mode', not eating and lounging around in my dressing gown (my get up and go has gone) but i'm not shaking and i'm trying not to let dd1 see that i am freaking out inside. I just hope dd2 does not get it, i think dd1 can now stop herself from being sick (like most of us on here can) but if dd2 gets it she gets it bad and is not good at getting it in the bucket (due to her ASD). I hope if dd1 is not sick then it wont be as contagious?

I have given her half a piece of toast and she drinking lots (would not even drink this morning so she must be feeling a little better).

Thank you so much for being here, couldn't get through it without you lot smile.

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roundabout1 Sat 09-Feb-13 18:12:49

marne - oh no sorry your dd1 is poorly. Sounds like you have been doing great though. Fingers crossed she is ok now & that dd2 doesn't get it

Marne Sat 09-Feb-13 19:36:20

Thank you, she's had a little bit more toast so seems much better. Quite a few of her friends have had it this week but most were only sick once or just had bad tummy ache unlike the kids in the year above that were very sick. Do you think it depends on how badly the person you caught it off suffered? I'm hoping this means if we get it we won't be very poorly (wishful thinking).

Marne Sun 10-Feb-13 11:21:47

update: dd1 slept all night and other than having a bad cough and a sore throat (from wretching) she seems much better, she's sent me out to buy some sausages for lunch smile

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alexle Sun 10-Feb-13 19:34:44

Hello everyone
Hope you're all o.k. Sorry to hear your daughter has been ill Marne. It sounds like you managed brilliantly though. I don't think I could hold a bowl and offer so much comfort (much to my shame). I hope she's feeling better now and the rest of the family have escaped.

My little boy was sick this morning hmm. Nothing since, (touch wood), but he hasn't had much to eat today and looks really pale. My husband is home, thank god, but I've been really anxious all day. It's such an awful, overwhelming feeling. I hate this!


Marne Sun 10-Feb-13 21:14:25

Sorry your going through this too. Dd1 still isn't right, no more wrenching but still very pale and not eating much, going to keep her home tomorrow and maybe take her to the gp to check her chest is clear. I just hope dd2 does not come down with it.

alexle Mon 11-Feb-13 09:02:49

Hi Marne.
Hope she's feeling better today. Perhaps it is the phlegm that's making her retch and not feel hungry. I'm sure that she would have been sick by now if she was going to be. It sounds like you have done really well looking after her too.

My little boy seems loads brighter today and has gone to nursery. I didn't get much sleep, (as I'm sure you can imagine). I just find my confidence in looking after him takes a knock every time this happens. I can't stop replaying it all in mind.

Fingers crossed for a better day all round. Axx

Marne Mon 11-Feb-13 09:15:21

Glad your little boy is feeling better, dd1 is home today as coughing all night and moaning about tummy ache (maybe pulled muscle from coughing?), i woke up with tummy ache but i dont feel sick (just fluey with this cold).

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pinky27 Mon 18-Feb-13 20:51:03

Hi - new to this thread - THANKS VERY MUCH to everyone who has posted on here - think it's very important that we all support each other through this debilitating phobia and the more people talk about it, the more might be done to help! Have suffered with emetophobia for 22 years and it got significantly worse once i had my daughter 2 years ago - nearly ended up hospitalised because I stopped eating and was obsessively cleaning the house because I was soo frightened that would become ill. Have tried hynotherapy, CBT, psychologist, self-help manuals and CD's - the best was CBT and helped me to challenge my thinking but unfortunately I'm still not "Phobia free". A good book to read is "Overcoming health anxiety" - it has a chapter on emetophobia and is written by David Veale who is a leading professional on emetophobia and has a clinic in London. Also, there is a blog - this is written by a woman who has emetophobi and has some good tips.
Also, anxiety UK has some information and leaflets about emetophobia - I am a member of anxiety UK and am now in-touch with some other people who suffer from this.
Take care

devilinside Sun 24-Feb-13 13:05:14

Shit, shit, shit. DS has norovirus, I can deal with it, happened in the night, so taken by surprise (no time to get panicky) Now, I clean so thoroughly (with gloves) it usually doesn't spread around, but DD has wiped her hands this morning on a towel which has 'V' on it, DS must have gone into the bathroom at some point. I didn't see the damn towel (beating myself up) So now I have two days of torture to look forward to sad

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Marne Sun 24-Feb-13 21:50:30

Oh no Devil, are you sure it's noro? Hope you are all ok and no one else comes down with it.

devilinside Mon 25-Feb-13 09:20:46

Definitely sure it's noro, he v'd multiple times, although he's absolutely fine now. Plus he played with a two year old on Thurs who had 'D' (the mum said it was a milk allergyhmm

If dd gets it, it will be tonight, wish me luck

He's 6 btw and DD is almost 8

Marne Mon 25-Feb-13 11:40:40

keeping everything crossed for you xx

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devilinside Tue 26-Feb-13 21:34:54

A quick update: nobody else in the house has succombed. Pretty amazing considering. I realise we are not completely out of the woods yet, but this bug seems to have an incubation time of around 30 hours, so I'm sure DD would be showing signs by now. DP also used the offending towel and he's ok too.

Thanks for the support. Hope everyone else is 'v' free

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tallulahturtle Fri 01-Mar-13 21:25:40

Oh crap, now the queens got it! If she's not safe I don't know who is

Marne Fri 01-Mar-13 21:36:24

The queen probably forgot to wash her hands after going to the loo grin, think of all the hands she shakes and children she has to say hello to on her royal visits, she's probably more likely to pick it up than anyone?

Apparently warmer weather is on the way next week, lets hope it put a end to the bugs.

idiot55 Fri 01-Mar-13 22:29:26

Ive often thoght the queen was likely to catch it!

poor queen , i just heard it was gastreneritis, maybe just a touch of diarrhea??

my 4 year old has gone to bed feeling sick, another sleepless night here worrying! really hope she is ok

idiot55 Fri 01-Mar-13 22:30:28

should say I have namechanged ( used to be florry)

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Marne Sat 02-Mar-13 08:06:36

Belgian- it sounds similar to what dd1 had the other week, she just wretched a few times but tummy ache was on and off for a few days, no one else in our house was sick (although i did have tummy ache). Hope your dd is over the worst of it and no one else is ill.

Dd1 had tummy ache again last night as well as a sore throat but seems ok this morning other than having yet another mouth ulcer sad.

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Marne Sat 02-Mar-13 11:46:10

Sounds more like this cold thing we have all had, sore throat followed by hacking cough, hope she feels better soon xxx

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idiot55 Sat 02-Mar-13 14:42:19

hope shes better soon, defintly think if gastro more would have happened.
Slapped cheek is rife about here, I had it 2 weeks ago and my 9 year old has it now.

alexle Sat 02-Mar-13 22:36:21

I hope she's feeling better now. Definitely doesn't sound like a tummy bug. It's good that she's been able to eat a little bit and that the calpol has helped.
I just checked the thread for the first time since posting about my little boy being ill a couple of weeks ago. I wanted to say that I would never have sent him to nursery if he was recovering from a tummy bug and was contagious. He was sick once because he'd had a cough and cold, was crying and had a coughing fit. However, that is enough to give me a crisis of confidence in looking after him. He's very snotty and coughing a lot at the moment because he's teething so I'm anxious all the time about him being sick and questioning how i would cope if he did have a bug. I've struggled with this phobia for as long as I can remember and certainly would not be inconsiderate to others in this way.

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alexle Sun 03-Mar-13 12:32:08

That's o.k. I wasn't clear in my post that he didn't have a bug. Him being sick for any reason makes me very anxious although obviously him having a bug is the most dreaded thing. I felt terrible when I read your post.

I am really struggling at the moment and considering trying EMDR. This is about the only therapy I haven't tried. It's used mainly for PTSD but I've read that it can help with phobias where there are traumatic memories acting as a trigger for anxiety. Just wondering whether anyone has tried this and would be willing to share their experience? I'm still having CBT but since becoming a mum my phobia has been so much worse. I don't want this to spoil any more precious time with my son when he's little.


spacechimp Tue 05-Mar-13 10:45:29

Hope everyone is bug free (and the queen is out of hospital!). I'm sorry to ask this, but I've been trying to put things into perspective and think about other reasons for being sick if not with noro or another d&v bug. I spent time last weekend with a friend and her dcs who often seem to be sick and so I was anxious about meeting. Sure enough, halfway through the afternoon her dd said she felt sick and they went off to the toilets. She hadn't v*, just coughing and hiccuping, but friend said that her ds had v* a couple of times over the last week. I know children can sometimes v* when they've got coughs and colds and I suppose I shouldn't go into blind panic whenever I'm near a child who is sick, but I just always assume the worst and that it's noro or something else contagious. I didn't really enjoy any of the afternoon after that, and it's just such a waste of my energy. I've got to see the same friend in a couple of weeks time with another friend and their dcs and I'm already dreading it and seeing it as something to get through rather than something to look forward to and enjoy. I think because I'm not around children on a daily basis it just heightens my sense of risk, and perhaps I'm being stupid imagining that they can just v* at any time.

Today a work colleague is off because she apparently v* in the night and fainted. I'm thinking the worst about this as well and hope she's not back at work tomorrow, but I guess there are other reasons for being sick.

Alexle, I have also read about EMDR and it sounds interesting. Do you think there was a traumatic experience for you that has triggered your anxiety? I think being sick as a child for me was traumatic because of the way my mum coped with it (think she is slightly emet herself) but I think my emet is bound up with OCD and health anxiety and apparently more complicated. I was refused CBT by a therapist because my issues have been going on too long. I think this is a bit negative, but haven't had the courage to try therapy again

tallulahturtle Wed 06-Mar-13 00:24:28

I've tried hypnotherapy and CBT . Neither helped, to be honest. Thought the CBT had helped , but I had the CBT during the summer when I am at my most relaxed , then soon as winter hit I was back to square one.

I have noticed my phobia has gone from a general v phobia to a noro phobia . As if someone has been ill , once I've convinced myself its not due to something contagious , I am a bit more relaxed than I used to be .

Space, how long have you had your issues? I was offered CBT quite easily so wonder if its known that CBT doesn't work for emets ? I've had my issues since I was 6 - maybe earlier but thats when my parents noticed how much i freaked out when my brother was unwell - I'm 28 now .
I don't like to blame my parents but my mum is a bit of a worrier and I remember during childhood, the vivid memories of her making sure there was an ice cream container in the car "in case" - It was never needed as my brother and I were very good travellers but I do wonder if the association of V with being a negative thing (obviously for normal people it is too ) rubbed off on me to the extreme.
I think that's the trouble with emetophobia , no one likes V so its more justified for us to be afraid in a way. Whereas flying, spiders, open spaces , dogs - even if you are scared of them, it's easier to understand why most people aren't afraid of them and why people actually like things that others are so afraid of. Phobias are irrational fears and my trouble is I don't see a fear of V as being as irrational as say a fear of post boxes.

Sorry just having a random late night vent , so pissed off with this phobia, its like we're scared of something that is happening right now as well as something that might happen (eg obsession with incubation periods of illness) . Then i get all OCD "if im happy and stop thinking about being scared of V for too long, it will happen" It's just down right exhausting :-(

devilinside Wed 06-Mar-13 10:24:28

Hi all

BB hope your DD is ok now, and it was just a sore throat/cough making her retch.

We are all ok, except last Thurs night I felt really nauseous, took 4 x motilium throughout the night and was fine by the morning (although felt 'fluey' the entire day) So looks like i was the one to catch the bug even thought it was DD and DP that used the contaminated towel. At least it confirmed that Motiliium stops vomiting.

Tallulah, my phobia has transferred to 'noro'. DP had a big birthday recently and I even held a bag for him while he v'd from drinking too much. Sounds like your mum is an emotophobe (mine is, she admitted it recently). Funny thing is she admitted that she didn't mind us being sick as children, but I must have picked up on her anxiety somehow (unless it's genetic)

alexle Wed 06-Mar-13 12:41:23

Hope everyone and their dcs are feeling better now.
Space, I think you did well to stay for the rest of the afternoon when your friends Dd felt sick. I think I would have been looking for excuses to get out of there!
I am having cbt and have had the phobia since childhood and I'm now 39. I don't think that the length of time you've had the problem necessarily has a bearing on whether cbt can be effective but you may need more sessions over a longer period of time. I also think it's good to find a therapist who's flexible and can combine different approaches.
I think my phobia was triggered by sharing a bedroom with my little sister. She was a very sickly child and I often woke up to the sound of her being ill in her bed. I had to cross the room in the dark to get my mum and then had to go back to sleep in the same room. I know this doesn't sound traumatic to a non emetophobe but this is how I experienced it as a young child. I still think about it and even dream about it, particularly the sound. I'm thinking that Emdr might be able to help if this is the case. I just feel that anything is worth trying at the moment. I'll let you know when I see someone and whether it makes a difference.

spacechimp Wed 06-Mar-13 13:27:27

This is why I don't know if I can face starting the whole therapy process again. I've had therapy twice in the past, for several months each time, and also tried hypnotherapy, which didn't really work. The second lot of therapy was when the therapist refused me CBT. I suppose we did end up being a bit flexible with approaches, and it worked to some extent, but was really health anxiety focused rather than to deal with emet.

YY to my phobia evolving to a noro phobia rather than general, and to being scared of things happening now as well as things that might happen. If I'm around someone v* and know it's not contagious I am almost relaxed, but the thought of going round to see friends with sickly dcs with another friend and her dcs added into the mix is freaking me out. Last weekend we met in a neutral venue which was easier, but there's no escape from someone's house. This friend is not big on hand washing either, which makes it worse.

The work colleague off yesterday after v* is off again today, and phoned to say she was still ill and wouldn't come in tomorrow either. This means it must be noro, and it's a relief that she's not returning to work tomorrow. It would be great if she stayed at home on Friday too and came back on Monday fully recovered

My issues go back a long way. Think they probably started when I was around 6, too, and I'm now 38. My mum always reacted in an extreme way to me and my sister v* or having a d&v bug, and it was all very stressful. My dad was seriously ill around the same time, and so it must have been traumatic for my mum, but her worries got projected onto us, particularly around illness. I think I must have been an anxious and worried child and remember clearly being in tears in the playground at around 6 worried that I was going to catch chicken pox, and feeling like it would have been the end of the world sad. I had full on OCD from 9-18, and then managed to get a grip on it and am mostly ok, but it really triggers when there is noro around, which seems like all year now, virtually!

Alexle, I think that sounds really traumatic, especially being woken up by someone v* in the same room. I'd be really interested to hear about EMDR if you go ahead with it. Tallulah, I agree that emetophobia is one of the more rational phobias, and that's probably my trouble too. I see fear of v* as perfectly reasonable. I almost wish I did have a fear of postboxes instead of this.

Devil, I hope all is well now now, and it sounds as though the Motilium really worked. BB, I hope all is well with you, too. Sorry for this mammoth post. I know it's rubbish that we all struggle with this phobia, but reading this thread has helped me to feel a bit less alone with it

newstartnewday Thu 07-Mar-13 15:54:08

can you pls help me? Sorry if not writing properly but not feeling well.

Have posted on these threads in teh past but not feeling up to changing my name back to whatever it was..

Please could you tell me if you think I might be .. (that thing we hate).

Last night ds2 was sick once. Said he had a tummy ache earlier in the evening and didn't eat supper but otherwise pretty fine before and after.

A few hours later ds1 woke up and was sick. Was a few times but not a massive amount. He was in more pain and felt more nauseous. still same this morning but seems better this afternoon.

Now I have been feeling extremely tired (unusually so) in the last few hours, and also feel bloated, tummy making strange sounds and feel a bit nauseous. Not terribly so yet but enough to make me not want to have a conversation with anyone..

I am quite a severe emetophobe and am now a single parent to 3 young dcs.. don't know how I'm going to cope if I am properly ill.

Do you think I will definitely v, or maybe not? I haven't since I was a child (now in my 30s)..

devilinside Thu 07-Mar-13 16:53:30

Hi, have you eaten? I found that at the first signs of a tummy bug if I avoid eating, and don't drink anything either,(not even a sip of water) I usually avoid v'ing.

If you have eaten, I would suggest heading to the pharmacy and getting yourself some Motilium, double quick. It works! see my post above

Marne Thu 07-Mar-13 20:28:00

I agree with devil, go to the chemist, motilium has worked for me a few times, it's great stuff. You might just be tired because you were up in the night and your anxious?

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tallulahturtle Thu 07-Mar-13 23:16:51

This motillium. What is it exactly ? And can you just ask for it at chemist , or do they quiz you ?

newstartnewday Fri 08-Mar-13 00:53:27

Thanks everyone - sorry didn't update earlier, was feeling weak and tired and not even up to logging in on my phone..

Thanks devilinside, I already have Motilium in the house in case of emergencies! although I think I've only taken it once as rarely feel like this.

Thankfully I think (hope!) that that was the worst of it.. didn't even take the motilium, just basically sat quietly, finally got a friend over to take care of the dcs and then I had a sleep. I still have a stomach ache, and a headache which is probably caused by lack of food, drink and sleep, and feel a bit shaky but i think that hopefully the worst is over and I didn't feel that awful dreaded feeling.

Also devil I did not eat anything today, other than a tiny biscuit and a couple of rice cakes just now so that could be why I avoided it.. ! I always take the cautious approach smile

night everyone x

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Marne Fri 08-Mar-13 09:23:19

Tullu ,you can get it from boots, no questions asked.

Took dd2 into school today to be greater by her TA who told me she was feeling poorly but thought she would come in as she has lots to do with dd today, she said she felt sick sad I would rather she had stayed away as now I'm going to be anxious all weekend about dd getting ill if it is a bug, why don't people think?

devilinside Fri 08-Mar-13 09:56:40

glad you're over the worst, newstart. You will probably feel crap today (slightly fluey) and my headache lasted all weekend. The not-eating definitely works, but last week I had no choice but to take the Motilium as my stomach didn't start feeling weird until after I'd eaten my dinner.

You can also buy Motilium on Amazon for those who have 'issues' with face to face communication (ie me!)

Marne, hope your TA is ok, didn't she already have noro? in which case, she will be immune for 3 months

Marne Fri 08-Mar-13 10:09:45

I'm not sure if she had noro, her dc's did but not sure if she had it too or if she was just off because of her children being ill sad, her family always seems to be ill. I am hoping that she is sent home and someone else can cover her to work with dd2, she did look pale sad..

devilinside Fri 08-Mar-13 10:26:37

Fingers crossed they send her home ASAP!

Marne Fri 08-Mar-13 13:10:28

I drove past the school this morning and her car wasn't there so am hoping she went home, i would rather dd2 was without a TA than risk her getting sick (how bad is that?) sad.

NeedsANewKitchen Fri 08-Mar-13 23:01:25

Hello, I have been lurking on this thread for a while as I also suffer with awful emetophobia. I've never felt that I have anything worthwhile to contribute as I feel a million miles away from having this under control.

I'm posting now as I'm in desperate need of some help. My DD (3) has been sick three times in the last hour, and I'm sure there is more to come. In my mind there's no doubt it's a bug, and now I'm worried about my 11 month old, DH and me getting it too. This is my hell - the waiting for everyone to be ill. DH is brilliant - he's looking after DD and she is happily watching her favourite film, it's me who is rubbish at this.

Please, does anyone have any advice, both for now in the short term, and what I can do about this in the future? What can I do to make DD feel better? How long will it last? I just can't think straight.

Thank you for any help.

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NeedsANewKitchen Sat 09-Mar-13 08:44:34

Thank you for the kind and helpful response. She does appear to be over the worst, she's just asked what's for breakfast!

I've been washing and cleaning this morning. I'll look at some of the things you use as I also want to know it's properly dealt with, especially with a crawling baby around.

For now though I'll try and hope that none of the rest of us catch it, and try and force myself to eat something.

Thanks again thanks

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I hate this phobia. On Monday at college my tutor said 'I had the dreaded bug yesterday' and later he apologised for his tummy making noises as it was 'recovering'. So I sent the whole of last week worrying I was going to pick it up as he clearly hadn't followed the 48-hour rule! I was fine. Now DS2 has stomach ache and my first thought is 'oh my god no' (not related to first bit here) but I just want a break from worrying. We have been so lucky touch huge wooden table that we've managed to get through this winter despite norovirus and the school having a terrible tummy bug go through it in December. But the worry is kind of worse than the reality sometimes.

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newstartnewday Thu 14-Mar-13 22:06:06

Evening all- I'm back again..

DS2 has now come down with diarrohea (however you spell it!)

I had to pick him up from school early - poor boy was really not well. Has had quite a few d incidents today, but no v / stomach aches really - just doesn't feel well. He has been eating apples, crackers and plain biscuits all day (I tried to stop him but he's only 3 so it's hard for him to understand). Didn't seem to make anything worse, so far.

DS1 now says he's not feeling well too. Gave him calpol and he's gone to sleep.

Does this sound like just a case of d? Or in your experience will v follow?

Obviously I have been enforcing / using a lot of dettol, handwasing etc.!

newstartnewday Thu 14-Mar-13 22:07:46

btw thanks belgianbun! I do feel like I'm handling things quite well so far .. not easy being a single parent of 3 with this phobia.

Dancergirl Fri 15-Mar-13 07:59:56

belgianbun how do you know if the Purell is the right one? I can only see one type of Purell on the Selles website and I couldn't see VF481 on it.

roundabout1 Fri 15-Mar-13 15:17:29

Help - dd1 (has an ongoing illness) felt poorly this morning & looked like she does when "normally" ill, has been off school, sleepy (never happens) & not eating (again never happens) & a temp & about half an hour ago was sick. I am panicking, its my birthday on monday & I we have lots of things planned over the weekend which look like they will have to be cancelled. I am trying to convince myself that it could be because of the temp, she has been complaining of feeling dizzy & a bad headache but not sick until she was sick - just after having a large drink of water. I've already convinced myself that dd2 will have it followed by the rest of the family.

roundabout1 Fri 15-Mar-13 16:42:36

just been sick againsad

MotheringShites Fri 15-Mar-13 19:49:08

Is anyone around? I've lurked here for a while but never posted.

DS2 has Vd twice this evening. My mum came to help but she's had to leave and I'm alone with sick DC (who is sleeping atm) and two others. I'm terrified. Literally sitting on my bed, frozen.

DH is out with no phone signal.

MotheringShites Fri 15-Mar-13 20:59:45

DH home. Had a glass of wine which is calming me.

Dancergirl Fri 15-Mar-13 21:36:33

mothering how is your ds? How old is he? Can he get to the toilet in time?

Dancergirl Fri 15-Mar-13 21:37:55

roindabout how's your dd?

Thinking of anyone going through this.

MotheringShites Fri 15-Mar-13 21:57:55

Hi Dancergirl. He's just two so not getting to toilet sad

He's just been awake heaving again. DTs are 4 so if they do catch it should be easier.

Feel awful because I can't be the mum I want when this happens. I've already seen how many emetophobes have emetophobic mums and its scary.

Dancergirl Fri 15-Mar-13 22:05:18

I really feel for you and completely understand what you are going through.

What I tell myself is this: I am 'comforting' mum at many, many other times - coughs, colds, flu, fallen over, bumped head, grazed knee, feeling sad etc. Your dc will remember this. It's only the v we can't deal with and for most dc, it doesn't happen that often.

roundabout1 Fri 15-Mar-13 22:20:57

my dd temp has gone down and she has eaten 2 breadatucks. Still stressed though!

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MotheringShites Fri 15-Mar-13 22:38:40

Thanks Dancergirl.

My back story: I've been emetophobic for as long as I can remember. One of my earliest memories is of a boy at a party Ving on my socks. I was three so I guess that's when it started.

My phobia has evolved, as others have, to being mainly noro/bug related. I can deal with V if I know it's not catching.

I have 3 DCs. Twins aged 4 and DS2 aged 2 (who is my current source of anxiety).

I want help. I feel like a shit mum and I'm so fed up with being hyper-vigilant in the playground or to the news sad(((

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tallulahturtle Sat 16-Mar-13 01:02:59

Help, I've had a few glasses of wine. Nothing more than usual. I feel unwell . I'm terrified .

tallulahturtle Sat 16-Mar-13 01:04:05

You lot are amazing,I could never have children . I envy your strength.

tallulahturtle Sat 16-Mar-13 01:30:47

Don't know if its the wine or something else. I occasionally drink a glass of wine too much but usually feel the effects the morning after, headache etc . Not the same night. That's why I'm worried its something else. :-( man I feel so alone

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tallulahturtle Sat 16-Mar-13 08:02:11

Just woken up, feel fine. Based on how ill I felt , I'd be expecting a hangover- but I didn't drink that much, so still confused as to why I felt so ill. :-/ did have a bit of red and white wine, so maybe was the mixing rather than the quantity.

roundabout1 Sat 16-Mar-13 10:38:02

Thanks everyone

mothering - hope your lo is doing better today & the other dc's are clear

tallulah - glad you are feeling better, perhaps dont mix next time!

bb - well done for sleeping with dd in your bed while poorly, well done you that is a huge achievement.

Well am still a bit stressed here, dh is working away at the mo, have cancelled relatives plans for coming over this weekend just in case. Dd still has a temp but not as high as yesterday. She is complaining of a headache & dizziness & achiness but not feeling sick . Am worried that dd2 will get it, if I want any sleep I end up in bed with her so dread her being sick in the night over me.

MotheringShites Sat 16-Mar-13 20:38:07

DD has now Vd sad

newstartnewday Sat 16-Mar-13 21:16:32

I'm so sorry you are going through this mothering.. You will get through it though.. Is there anyone else you can call to help?

MotheringShites Sat 16-Mar-13 21:19:53

Thanks newstart DH is here and DD is now sleeping. I'm just preparing myself for the worst. It's just so horrible. Thanks for being here.

newstartnewday Sat 16-Mar-13 22:12:09

Don't worry I'll try to be here while I can! Sure to be up a lot between my 3 dcs.. Ds1 isn't feeling well now either..

EffiBriest Tue 19-Mar-13 15:14:30

I've been watching this thread, even though I know (thanks to CBT) that I shouldn't!

I was in on the v long thread ages ago under the name NellyRaggBagg, btw.

I just wanted to share something with those who fear passing this horrible phobia on to children/feel they are bad mothers.

My DD is 8. Last week someone in DD's class v-d in the classroom and another girl, A, ran out of the classroom crying because she is severely emetophobic :-((

My DD (who couldn't be less phobic if she tried) told me about A being afraid. I took the opportunity to say that I was sorry for the girl who v-d - but that I would have done the same as A, as I feel just the same way as she does about it.

DD was intrigued, so I asked her if she had ever noticed that Daddy looks after her when she has tummy bugs (she had noticed). I said that it didn't mean that I don't love her to bits - it's just that I have a really irrational fear of v. I would like to try to do something about it, but I haven't been able to yet.

I then had a similar conversation with DS, who is unfortunately emetophobic.

It doesn't make the phobia any less bad, but telling the DC did make me feel better. DD took it completely in her stride and, curiously, telling her felt like a relief. I've spent the past however many years trying to ignore this massive thing, and it felt like a big step to be able to tell her that v makes me panic. She certainly didn't seem to think I was a bad mother, at any rate!!

EffiBriest Tue 19-Mar-13 15:18:25

I should add that it's interesting (and rather sad) to see how the phobia has developed with DS (who's 10). He has never had any particularly traumatic experience of v, so in his case (as in mine, I think), it's all to do with being generally prone to anxiety and panic. He isn't sensible enough to do CBT yet, but I might look into it for him when he's older.

I went to find out about hypnotherapy a couple of weeks ago (though ended up rejecting it due to lack of funds!) It was interesting to talk to the hypnotherapist. She said that nearly all emets are people who like to be in control. That certainly fits in my case. I don't like to control other people, but I do get very anxious about situations/events that are out of my control (I also tend to get very anxious about, eg, the children going in the car with someone else...)

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Emetophobesmum Sun 24-Mar-13 09:53:39

I hope you don't mind me joining your thread. I was wondering if anyone could give me any advice about how to help my 16 year old DD. She mentioned a few months ago that she thought she was emetophobic but I didn't take much notice. Last night I threw up (I have hiatus hernia and ate something I shouldn't have). I spoke to DD and then went to bed. DH was up with DD until about 1am as she was crying and shaking because she was so anxious about vomiting.

She is in Sixth form and developed severe anxiety on resuming school in September and has had a course of counselling and just finished a course of CBT related to that - she didn't tell the psychologist about emetophobia.

She used to be sick as a child on taking any sort of medicine, she can take paracetemol and stuff now, but I assume that that may be how it started - perhaps she was worried about being sick in schoool or someting.

Generally she doesn't seem to be that anxious about germs etc - we are quite a messy household, but I notice she is using a anti bacterial handgel.

Judging from some of the comments I have read, I can see that people are still suffering a lot and there don't seem to be effective treatments out there. Is there anything I can do to help her?

tallulahturtle Mon 25-Mar-13 12:10:34

Hi Emets mum.

Sorry for the long post but I think it's great that you are trying to help understand your DDs phobia. Also sorry if what I say doesn't describe everyone on here , I just want to give a rough snapshot into an Emets life.

The best thing you can do is to be understanding , its easier said then done , especially when she is freaking out and you are actually the poorly one. It's horrible, we feel so selfish and guilty and we feel like we should be comforting you when all we want to do it get the hell out of the situation. Last year was especially challenging for me as DH had two spells in hospital- kidney stones and hernia, and its a hell of a challenge A . Being in a hospital and B. sitting with your DH who had already V due to the pain , being concerned about him and shit scared of him at the same time!

Other people don't understand why we are scared , they say "well no one LIKES V " or they say yeah I've got that phobia too , but them mean they just find V unpleasant - in the same way people find diarrohea unpleasant , but I'm not scared of it. For example I'm also scared of spiders, but its not a phobia as such as the fear is no way on the same level as my emetophobia.

I never really was scared of the germs thing until a few years ago when the media went overboard with the N - it's a virus but no one here likes actually typing out the words of the things were scared of.

It is likely she is scared of bugs like N along with general V . Its horrible to be scared of both as when you are scared of things like N and bugs, a great deal of your time is spent being scared of something that might happen rather then something that is actually happening. For example you may say something casually like "oh there's a lot of that going around at the moment" - an emet will automatically presume the worst, that you are talking about N and it will be on their mind for most of the time. In the same vein, we are very good at sensing when something is up and can tell when people are hiding things from us , for example if my DH feels unwell , he tries to hide it, but I can always tell something is wrong . Or when my family try use other words for illness "I was bad/off/uncomfortable last night" , it almost makes it worse as it strengthens my fear as I think, it must be bad as they a trying to protect me. - Exactly, you can't win!

If she is near anyone that has N or says they had it, they often will count down the hours (incubation period of the N) and won't really relax until the time is up, although they will never 100% relax as the threat is always there.

Emets are happiest during the summer generally as that's when the N isn't as prevelent , we decide that it's called the Winter V B for a reason and try to relax more over the summer - although we are very aware that it happens all year . The summer brings its own dangers like BBQs ( once went to a bbq where the host used the same plate for cooked and raw meat ) - just stuck to the jacket potatos!

ThenSeptember comes (I know it's not winter but its when the schools go back and people mix more germ wise) and we freak out as its called the WVB for a reason . Then we try to relax ourselves thinking "it can happen all year, its no worse then during the summer, its just the media" - we try to reason with ourselves - not sure if I learnt that during CBT or not.

This winter I avoided all news , ever since the telegraph had on its front page " Winter V bug to ruin Christmas for thousands" , that caused quite a freak out as you can imagine.

I honestly don't know if there is anything you can do to reduce her phobia - if you discover anything let us know! I've been phobic since at least 7 years old as that's when my parents first noted my reaction to my brother being unwell (they thought at first I was crying as I was concerned about him - well I was but I just wanted to get out the bloody car!) . I spoke to the doctor about it a few years ago and got CBT for a few months when I was in my late teens, it made me try question my fear more but ultimately it didn't help. I tried hypnotherapy but didn't work - the chap just essentially told me to stop being scared! I'm now 28 .

I hope this has helped in some way, even if it is to just help you understand a bit more about what she is going through. Any questions just ask or feel free to pm me if you prefer.

Hope everyone is having a good and relaxing day .

emetophobesmum Tue 26-Mar-13 09:21:55

Thank you for your sharing your experience TT, I hope your DH is better now. DD wants to be a vet and spends a lot of time with sick animals which luckily don't seem to bother her. She is going on a trip to a developing country in the summer and will be camping out etc - the organisers have said to expect upset tummies etc while they acclimatise! So I hope she doesn't start freaking out there.

I have told her to tell the psychologist she saw previously about it when she goes back for follow up. I hope they can suggest something effective. I know people who have been cured of other phobias by CBT but it seems it doesn't work for this one.

roundabout1 Wed 27-Mar-13 22:08:04

tallulah - you have certainly summed me up & put it all so much more eloquently than I could!

tallulahturtle Thu 28-Mar-13 15:35:47

Hehe I'm not usually very eloquent :-) . Hope everyone is good today and looking forward to Easter .

rob1123 Fri 29-Mar-13 17:56:20

Can't wait for easter! its going to be so much fun!

thesun Sat 30-Mar-13 22:50:33

I'm new to this thread so sorry if this question has appeared before but I would be very grateful for any advice. My emetophobia started when I was 10 ish and looking back it has kind of ruled my life since. Anyhow, from my teens it has resulted in me loosing weight gradually (if in doubt some food could cause a problem I won't have it / go without), to a point now where i'm v underweight. Seems like catch 22, I need to eat more which = more chance of eating something that will make me ill / or I will eat too much of same things = make me ill, but can't not try to increase weight as that is making me experience other health probs. hmm
Anyone out there who has been in similar situation, or who has been able to recover from same predicament?

ItsOkayItsJustMyBreath Sun 31-Mar-13 14:04:37

Hi everyone, I hope you and all your families are all well. I do not like easter much because of too many fb posts about children v*ing from too much chocolate (there's always something isn't there?).

thesun I am so sorry you are going through this but, if it helps, I have been in your exact position and sort of made it through. I have had this phobia since the age of about 3. It varied in it's degrees of being incapacitating throughout my childhood and teenage years but really took a hold in my early twenties. I went from 10 stone to 5 stone 7 and was diagnosed with anorexia nervosa and hospitalised a couple of times. Of course it was the phobia that made me too scared to eat not AN but it is still an eating disorder.

The turning point re weight gain for me came one New Years eve. I had bought a lovely dress to wear to a family party (just a small thing, I didn't and still don't do large get togethers). It was so beautiful and a size 6. I put it on and it just fell off me, I looked in the mirror and in that moment I decided that I was not going to be in this position any more. I got really angry with the phobia and used the anger as a stepping stone to encourage me to eat. I still only stuck to 'safe' foods (and still do) but I very gradually increased what I ate. It was very very difficult and I needed a lot of reassurance from my DM, CPN and friends that I wouldn't v* but I did it and as my weight went up, I found that I felt better mentally. It is so true that starving yourself diminishes your mind's ability to reason rationally, once you start to gain weight you will feel better both physically and mentally.

I really hope you find the fight in you to help you eat. The phobia is just terrible, you do not need to compound your fears by starving yourself. Eating will NOT make you v*.

Keep writing on here x

thesun Mon 01-Apr-13 21:58:29

itsokay thanks for reply. Its nice to know that there are others that have got through what I'm going through atm. I haven't been to gp for a long time now and although I know it would be the sensible thing to do with respects to weight loss and just checking nothing else is going on, I'm petrified they would send me straight off to hospital. I completely agree I have an eating disorder but certainly not AN (although all same symptoms). And yes, I've had so many occasions like you described where I have got really angry and frustrated with this phobia and the impact it has had, but until now I just have not managed to change things around, but I'm so damn determined angry
Can i ask, did you get any professional help? Also, I tend to stick to eating the same foods, but just wondered if you could suggest what things helped you gain weight, and the amount you ended up having to have?
Thanks again for your support.

ItsOkayItsJustMyBreath Tue 02-Apr-13 15:07:04

Glad you're feeling the anger! Definitely something to use smile

I had such an amazing CPN that visited me at home every week and we did a food diary. At my lowest point I was only eating 3 hazelnuts and 10 raisins a day and that was so I could take my tablets. I think that for the time being, forget about your weight and just concentrate on things that you feel okay eating and start from there. For me, ryvita with peanut butter was okay so I'd have one slice in two halves. Remember (I don't know how much you weigh but if you've lost a lot of weight it is important) that your stomach has shrunk and you are probably going to equate the feeling of fullness with nausea, it isn't nausea really but our emet minds like to trick us! Instead of thinking, I'm going to eat a big dinner, just have small snacks throughout the day. I used to have a ramekin of peas as an evening meal, strange but true grin.

There is a way through this and you CAN do it, honestly, I was suicidal at quite a few points as I thought my life would stay as one big panic attack forever and I couldn't handle it but you CAN.Please see your GP, you will probably need a blood test to check for malnutrition and you may be referred to a dietician.

I still have a pretty restricted diet but I take a multi vit and just eat more of it. Bland foods are my staple and I'm a strict veggie with no milk, cream, ice cream etc but that's because I'm lactose intolerant.

One more thing, my CPN gave me the best piece of inspiration to keep going. You know how you can often feel so guilty and a failure? Well, instead of trying to tell yourself that you're not and that you're brilliant etc, just keep repeating "I am as good and as bad as the next person and deserve to be here". It really helped me and I hope it can help you too.

Let me know how you get on x

ItsOkayItsJustMyBreath Tue 02-Apr-13 15:08:44

Oh, I saw a psychiatrist for years but that was only to review medication etc and had quite a few bouts of CBT. Just waiting for my 4th lot to start.

idiot55 Tue 02-Apr-13 20:58:14

got to share my latest experience, DD ( 4) in hospital for routine op ( this is op number 13) so we used to it , in a way.

Had to go yesterday for op today, we were in a side room, overheard another mum saying her son ( looked about 15 months) had D and V , the other mum said her had too.


Tried to rationlise, may not be infectious, not near us etc etc

However one of the mums left her child for the night and this poor litle baby wandered up and down shouting for his mummy, and throwing up! aahhhhh

Heard him in the night throwing up and bit caffule of nurses went into his room to clear up,I watched , no aprons, no gloves just handtowels!!

aaaaahhhhh, presume some handwashing went on.

Today this boy had the same nurse as my daughter ! shit! did she wash her hands, what has she touched blah blah!

anyway nothing much more i can do, I have some anti viral gel but my daughter had a drip in so didnt want to use etc.


Fingers crossed

oh while she was in theatre I boought a newspaper, didnt look at headline till Id bought it " vomiting epidemic sweeps country"

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idiot55 Wed 03-Apr-13 22:46:15

im in scotland was on the Herald newspaper ( a scottish national, but glasgow based)

Thank you for reasssuring. They had put up a isolation sign on his door but his mum ignored it, he was wandering in and out the ward kitchen with a sick bowl.
His mum left him to go out for a smoke ( for a few hours, poor wee soul) and he was sitting on a nursing assistnats knee at the nurses station! she then came and changed my daughters bed, no handwashing involved.

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ItsOkayItsJustMyBreath Thu 04-Apr-13 21:15:31

oh no bb, where did you see that? <off to google> sad

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ItsOkayItsJustMyBreath Thu 04-Apr-13 21:21:21

found it sad

I HATE this year so much already. Feels like we're existing in a fog of viruses and I just want to keep ds and myself indoors and not see anyone. This is having an impact on my agoraphobia.

HazzleMcDazzle Fri 05-Apr-13 10:08:48

I hate all the scaremongering stories too - I think it's irresponsible journalism.

Just to keep things in perspective, though, according to the latest HPA report, current Norovirus levels are only 5% above what they were this time last year.

RubyrooUK Sat 27-Apr-13 22:09:39

Hello. I am joining in here as I'm an awful emetophobic. DS1 currently has a vomiting bug so DH is sleeping with him (he is 2.7).

I adore DS1 but feel horrified at all the times he has kissed DS2 and me over the last couple of days - and I'm ashamed for feeling that about my beautiful boy.

Meanwhile I am left with DS2, terrified that at six weeks, he will get the D&V or I will pick it up. And terrified anyway that DS2 will overeat - he is breastfed - and vomit on me without DH here in bed to wind him.

This whole thing has kicked off terrible anxiety (am not particularly anxious in general) and I will feel unwell for ages until I know there is no risk of any more vomiting.

Honestly, why do I feel this way? I hate emetophobia.

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Badvoc Fri 10-May-13 20:47:23

Hi everyone!
Well, here I am again.
Ds2 has just come home from pils and been sick about 4 times.
He is now on sofa with bowl and watching tv.
I am in full on panic mode but try very very hard not to let ds see it.
Held the bowl etc and stripped him off...
It's going to be a loooong not!
I though noro was supposed to be gone by this time of year!.

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Badvoc Sat 11-May-13 08:23:16

Hi bb.
He wasnt sick in the night.
I slept with him so didn't get much sleep! smile
I had a towel, sock bowl, bleach spray and gloves by the bed!!
He has had a banana and water this morning so we shall see.
Oh, I hate this bloody phobia sad
I will be on tenterhooks for re next 48 know how it is.
It's even more annoying that I know exact,y where he has can't it from...a girl at pre school. Her mother sends her in when she is poorly regardless.
She was coughing so hard last week she was retching, poor thing.
Ds2 told me she was sick at pre school but he can't remember on what day.
At least this wasnt last week prior to ds1s residential trip...I am trying to be positive ;)

Badvoc Sat 11-May-13 08:24:03

Oh, btw, I have bought a book from amazon...thrive - how to overcome your emetophobia.
I haven't read it yet...not sure if you have heard of it?
Might start it tonight.

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Badvoc Sat 11-May-13 18:31:04

[[Cure Your Emetophobia & Thrive: The Research-backed Self-help Programme to Overcome Your Fear of Being Sick [Spiral-Bound]
Rob Kelly (Author), Charlotte Allen (Illustrator)]]
Hope that worked!

Badvoc Sat 11-May-13 18:31:20

I am rubbish at links!

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Badvoc Sun 12-May-13 08:44:51

Started reading it last night.
Very thought provoking. He pretty much describes me to a T.
I finally feel like I am doing something about this damned phobia.
It could well be the best £20 I have ever spent!

roundabout1 Mon 13-May-13 16:49:52

Hi everyone - am a bit stressed here, last night I felt utterly sick, really like I was going to be sick, I quickly took 2 Motillium - on the box it says one but I'm sure you used to be able to take 2. That stopped the horrible nauseous feeling, now today feel very green and yucky still, I am managing to eat as I'm not sure if \i felt worse as hadn't eaten much yesterday prior to feeling ill. Surely if I was going to be sick it would have happened already? Now just worried about the kids catching it, although looking on the bright side at least I wouldn't have to worry about catching it as I have had it first. Oh thsi sounds so silly written down, wish I could just get a grip .

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devilinside Mon 13-May-13 22:35:13

Anyone around?, DD threw up around 9pm, Sitting here feeling totally shell shocked, feel like falling asleep, the anxiety is making me so tired, but I'm shaking as well. She's in bed now with a bowl, terrified she will v again

roundabout1 Mon 13-May-13 23:47:39

Oh no things have got much worse, felt increasingly bad all night, took motillium but have been sick, must say I did feel lots better after & it wasn't as bad as I expected, mind you I felt like death so anything would be an improvement. That was 15 mins ago, feel in shock now.

devil - Oh your poor dd & you. Fingers crossed she emptied her stomach & will be ok now. Sounds like it will be a sleepless night for you both. I will probably be around later x

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devilinside Tue 14-May-13 10:46:15

Oh no Roundabout, are you sure it's a bug? Seems like a long time to be feeling rough. Are you feeling better now?

DD only v'd the once, of course I didn't sleep a wink. She's home from school today and bouncing around (of course, I am still panicked)

Can you get bugs that only make you 'v' once? DD's not usually a vomity child.

we are supposed to going on holiday on Friday, and am now stressed we'll all be ill. If that's not bad enough, we're going to France by ferry!

roundabout1 Tue 14-May-13 19:21:37

Well I am all achey & headachey so certainly feels like a bug, I remember before having bad backache & general aches after & this is the same. I am convinced that the dc's will get it but trying to convince myself that if I have already had it I won't stress so much. It isn't the v so much with the kids it's the fear of me getting it but obviously that's happened already. I'm really hoping to be feeling lots better by tomorrow, have forced down 2 breadsticks been sipping peppermint tea & had 2 tablespoons of plain boiled rice just. I've not eaten properly since yesterday morning so am probably feeling worse through lack of food.
devil - my kids aren't sicky ones either & often with bugs will v just the once & sometimes they seem to be fine other than that too. Fingers crossed you are all fine for friday, it certainly doesn;t seem a bad bug even if it is one x

devilinside Tue 14-May-13 21:54:22

Hi, I usually find if the adults in the household get a bug, the DCs don't catch it. Probably something to do with them operating at a different level (with regards to touching things around the house) That's my theory anyway!

DD has been driving me mad all day, bouncing around, saying she's bored and why wasn't she allowed to go to school (I know most parents would have sent their child in to school after one V episode, the evening before), she seems ok now, but I won't relax until tomorrow.

Now stressing about the gales and the probability of the ferry being rough on Fri, can anyone recommend seasickness tablets for children?

devilinside Wed 15-May-13 09:21:06

How are you feeling today roundabout?

roundabout1 Wed 15-May-13 09:25:42

I am feeling rough but much better than yesterday, just tired & headachey rather than every muscle aching like yesterday. Dh is feeling bad today, he is all hot & achey, strange as I started than on monday night yet felt poorly since sunday night. Still stressful even though I have had it,for some reason I think it will get worse again.
Good news about your dd devil fingers crossed everyone will be ok. I find that v once bugs adults never seem to get.
Traveleeze are really good & last 24 hours & Phenergan is meant to be good too.

Haven't been on this thread before but have had emetophobia for over 40 years. It's been tons more manageable though since being on a low dose of sertraline and it doesn't dominate my life now like it used to. My 11yo daughter now has it too. I'm so glad I came on here and saw reference to that book, though, because it looks fab and I have just ordered it.

devilinside Wed 15-May-13 13:40:56

That's interesting about Sertraline. I was prescribed that when I was being assessed for aspergers. I didn't realise it could help with phobia-induced anxiety.

Great news you are feeling better roundabout, at least you can relax, now you know the worst is over and you can't catch it again!

roundabout1 Wed 15-May-13 13:46:51

bless - hi & welcome

devil - I am feeling much worse now, not sure if its because I've hardly eaten but I keep getting dizzy & have a sinusy headache which thinking about it I have had since saturday. Wonder if something sinus wise is setting all this off. Dh was feeling rough but feels ok now.

devilinside Wed 15-May-13 14:23:24

I had a nasty sinus type infection about a month ago, there is one going around. Perhaps you have been unlucky enough to catch two viruses together. Try some sinus medication, see if that helps

roundabout1 Fri 24-May-13 16:35:12

devil - hope you are having a lovely time on hols x

Well turned out it wasn;t a stomach bug but a sinus & chest infection affecting my balance. I was so glad as obviously meant everyone else was safe but it has bothered me a bit as motillium didn't do anything. Previously when everyone else has been struck down with a big motillium kept me safe from v ing but now I feel I'm not safe if that makes sense.

Hello, I'm having a bit of an anxious time at the moment because DH is going to America on Saturday for 8 days. My phobia is very strong when I imagine being the lone adult coping. That thought terrifies me. I have no reason really to expect anyone to be ill, esp as it is half term this week. I have had stomach ache all day, but that could be just a bit of wind, too much bread, or anything. But the thought of me, or one of my three DSs, being ill when DH is America terrifies me as he can't come to rescue me. The 'in-laws are 20 min drive away and I know they would come and rescue me if I desperately needed it. I still feel extremely anxious about next week. I just wanted to share really, as I know you guys understand this feeling. I wish I were more normal, I really do.

roundabout1 Thu 30-May-13 21:59:35

Becky I'm sorry you are having such a tough time at the mo. The stress will no doubt cause stomach ache anyway but it is so easy to see a bug in the slightest twinge or icky feeling, I tend not to eat much when I'm worrying about it too so then feel worse through hunger. I am sure you and the kids will be fine, if & it is a huge if one of you were to become ill you still would be fine. Doesn't stop being a nervous wreck about it though does it!

Had cramps all night. Bad sleep and proper diahreaeh can't spell this am. DH goes at 5am tomorrow. Perhaps I'll be better by then. Still don't know if this is a bug or anxiety. So silly to worry so much.

roundabout1 Fri 31-May-13 20:34:05

Oh no, try to relax much easier said than done I know. It could very easily be anxiety related, fingers crossed it is.

Good morning, roundabout1. DH left at 5am this morning and my stomach is a bit better this morning, still crampy and tender and I feel really tired but I actually feel a bit better about DH going away now. I think we'll be fine. I often think it is the anticipation that is worse than the reality. If disaster struck I know I could call on the in-laws.

We have to take DS1 on a 25-minute car journey to cub camp this morning and I might take the other two DSs to town after lunch (be nice mummy and buy them something from Smiths).

I feel such a wimp though. I have done adventurous things in my life, living in Japan for two years, travelling by myself etc, why am I so scared about this, on the off chance that someone is sick? I had a bit of a frightened moment yesterday someone on facebook talking about whole family getting a sickness bug while on holiday this week. I'd rather not know.

Took me a while to find this, which is a good thing smile

But there is a bug going around here at the moment, in July!!!!! It just feels as if there is no time off except school holidays. I'm fed up already of the faecbook statuses about poorly children. My middle boy was off last week with a sore throat and the head said when I told him 'oh no not another D&V'. No, it wasn't but why say that to me??

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pinkkoala Thu 11-Jul-13 19:50:23

Just a quick one, i am sure i have this, i go into panic mode when dd, 8 comes home from school and says someone was sent home with a sick bag, it happened today, i then almost interrogate her with questions.
Is mottilium any good and can you buy it over the counter or is it prescription. Does it actually prevent vomiting from a bug.

sw25 Sat 03-Aug-13 17:33:14

Hello everyone. I'm new to this thread but certainly not new to emet. I am 35 and pretty much had it my whole life, since age of 7.

Anyway, currently 8 months pregnant and have experienced severe nausea pretty much the entire pregnancy. Have been on anti emetics and sedatives, and now doc and consultant want me on anti depressants, sertraline or citalipram. Anyone had experience of either? Terrified of nausea side effects of course, and wondering if it's really worth it with only 6 weeks to go until birth. Have also just been diagnosed with pregnancy related gallstone, which has really sent me over the edge. Now predicting pain and projectile vomming if/when I get an attack.

You all seem to have children though, which gives me hope. How on earth did you get through pregnancy and birth with this bloody disease (in my view it is a disease. Phobia doesn't adequately cover just how life limiting it can be).

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