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YommyMommy Fri 26-Oct-12 14:25:29

I can only handle positive stories right now please smile

I have started on 10mg today for anxiety and depression. I'm do relived to b getting some help and looking forward to feeling like myself...I know it won't work over night but would love to hear success stories!

X x

skyebluezombie Fri 26-Oct-12 14:30:39

I started on 10, went on to 20 after a fortnight as that was the plan. They worked fine, felt a bit spacy for a couple of days, but started feeling "normal" again after only a few days. I went along fine for weeks, then got all down again and the dose was upped to 30 and now Im fine grin honest!

They said to allow weeks for it to kick in, but it didnt take that long for me.

YommyMommy Fri 26-Oct-12 18:17:07

Thank you skyblue,

Can I ask if you feel it's better to take at night or in the morning?

I have 2 small children and work also so can't b too out of it?? grin x x

madasa Fri 26-Oct-12 20:28:07

I started on 10mg about 6 months ago. Gradually I have had to increase my dose to 40mg which now feels right for me.

I honestly think it saved my life.

Good luck with it...I hope it helps you

Best thing I ever did. Well done and feel better soon x

Good luck and really hope it works for you as is has done for me. I have just come off it after 13 months. smile

I will not lie, I found the first few weeks quite tough, but I started on 20mg and went up to 40mg.

Don't worry if you feel a bit hot and sweaty in the mornings-that's normal but does diminish in time I found. I also had very vivid dreams not nightmares just very real and film-like. That's normal too. I also had constipation

One step at a time and in time you will feel the difference. Back to the GP if you think anything is wrong or the dosage needs a tweak. x

addictedtolatte Fri 26-Oct-12 20:48:32

they gave me the strengh to turn my life around. they made me a bit tired. no probs coming off them either good luck

YommyMommy Fri 26-Oct-12 21:05:34

Thank you lovely ladies!! I really appreciate all the success stories! I took the first one tonight so first step on the ladder smile x x

Prepare to feel brave Yommy and to reclaim your life. smile

YommyMommy Fri 26-Oct-12 21:09:39

Thank you sparkling x x

skyebluezombie Sat 27-Oct-12 00:11:45

I take mine every morning as thats what the doctor said, but I know that a lot of people take them at night because they make them feel tired.

After STBXh walked out on me, I was in such a state of shock, that I just sat around crying and shaking day after day, not eating. poor DD was getting affected by it and I said I cant carry on like this...... So off I went to the doctor to ask for some help.

Once the tablets kicked in, I started to feel better and it took away the anxious desperate feeling that I had. I think Ive been on them for about 6 months now and they really do help.

I hope that they work for you

YommyMommy Sat 27-Oct-12 11:20:47

Second "happy pill" down the hatch. I'm glad to report that I've had no really horrible side effects til now.

I was sick very early this morning and have been awake since 3, but as the side affects don't last it's a small price to pay to b on the road to recovery, right?? smile

My mood is still really low today. And every small task seems like its a mountain to climb, but I'm having less thoughts of not wanting to b here so that's a positive.

Thank you all again for ur support x x

All to be expected Yommy, just keep going. In the first weeks I remember driving to the shops but not being able to go in.sad Thinking about that now it seems odd that I felt like that.

It is all a bit of a mountain but you are on your way up it now. x

addictedtolatte Sat 27-Oct-12 12:09:44

it takes around 2 to 3 weeks to feel the positive effects. its normal for your mood to dip whilst your body is adjusting. well worth ir in the end

YommyMommy Sat 27-Oct-12 12:19:52

Thank you sparkling.

I took the first one yesterday at night, so decided to take today's in the morning to see if that helps with the sleep!

It's all trial n error at moment x x

My GP said take in the morning so I just did as i was told. smile She said taking it at night might disrupt sleep patterns. But there are many people that take it at night no problem.

CuriousMama Sat 27-Oct-12 12:27:21

Positive report here too. I've been off them for a month but wouldn't hesitate to go on them again if I need to. I took them for panic disorder but am trying NLP now and upping my vits/minerals. I just got a book out of the library on NLP though not going for therapy.

Do you feel ok taking 2 so close together?

I hope you don't get many side effects but if you do get any stick with them, it'll pass.

I've been off them for a month too Curious. I feel fine how about you?

cocolepew Sat 27-Oct-12 12:29:51

I was on 20 mg for 2 years, I came of in in the summer, I took mine at night because it made me tired. Yes to the vivid dreams! It was great, really helped me.

Good luck.

I met my late Grandparents again in one vivid dream cocole. We were in their house and it all looked the same. It was great. Hope that doesn't sound too weird. smile

CuriousMama Sat 27-Oct-12 12:35:56

I feel great up to now Sparkling. Your dream doesn't sound odd to me but then again I am a Spiritualist grin

That's good Curious. I can't understand how I have come off them but feel ok IYKWIM. grin

CuriousMama Sat 27-Oct-12 12:44:15

Is there something different about your life Sparkling? Eating differently? Less stress? New hobby or relationship?

Probably less stress Curious. There was a lot going on when I started on them last year but things have settled. DS1 has moved schools taking a chunk of angst away. I am volunteering for the Cats' Protection League so focussing on other stuff again.

This sounds odd but I am not sure I would have been brave enough to do the school move without the Citalopram. It enabled me to see straight enough I think.

Sorry about thread hijack Yommy. It is all positive still. smile

Oh and I am walking 3 miles a day. That makes a huge difference re energy.

cocolepew Sat 27-Oct-12 13:25:21

I dreamt about my dead gran, or her house, constantly when I was on it. Even when I'm not on it I have vivid dreams. I must have been a Hollywood director in a past life wink

CuriousMama Sat 27-Oct-12 13:42:18

Sparkling doesn't sound odd at all, it's fab for that.

DS2 has moved to comp now and that's taken a lot of stress off me. No more school run and he loves it there, hated primary. I just got his grades and he's doing so well smile He's never been academic but is starting to be average and above average in some topics, especially English.

cocolepew, maybe you should do script writing? wink

YommyMommy Sat 27-Oct-12 13:47:49

Should I net have taken them so close together? I took the first one at 7.30 last night then too one at 11 today.

I have to admit I do feel a little spaced out but that might just my imagination or the fact that I still can't eat much.

X x

CuriousMama Sat 27-Oct-12 13:54:10

You'll be ok as you'll be taking the next one in the morning.
Do try to eat something though even if it's soup. Main reason being we need lots of vitamins and minerals to have a healthy nervous system plus you'll end up tired. Can you make a big pan of broth and pick at that?

When I changed from evening to morning I did exactly what you did Yommy. The GP told me to do it like that and it was fine.

I used to taker mine as soon as I woke up. My appetite all but disappeared when I first started taking them but it came back with a vengeance after a while.

Susieloo Sat 27-Oct-12 14:08:43

I was on them for six months and had no side effects, they had a profoundly positive effect on me in terms of reducing crippling anxiety and paranoia that was reducing me to vague suicide ideation, I say vague because I didn't want to actively die I just wouldn't have minded not waking up if that makes sense. It was the best decision I ever made and I wouldn't hesitate to take them again, they worked really quickly for me to. I have recommended them to any of my friends who were talking about high anxiety and depression. Best of luck smile

YommyMommy Sat 27-Oct-12 14:40:28

Yes susieloo, it it my reality at the moment...don't won't to die but wouldn't mind if I never woke up! How horrible sad

I'm so glad it worked for you! Hope it works for me too!! grin x x

Obviously it can't take away the causes of the anxiety and depression but it takes all the rough edges away and enables you to function again.

YommyMommy Sat 27-Oct-12 15:11:21

Yes I realise that sparkling. It has all been make much worse by physical ill health. The anxiety has been ongoing since birth of DS1, but was manageable up til now.

I'm also going for counselling so that should help too!

Thanks again have no idea what ur positive stories mean to me! X x

Oh sorry Yommy that wasn't meant to sound arsey or anything. sad grin <worries>

CuriousMama Sat 27-Oct-12 16:14:36

No Sparkling, shove that paranoia to the side me lass wink You're reading the intonation all wrong.

YommyMommy Sat 27-Oct-12 16:17:21

Not at all sparkling!! I never thought it was meant that way grin x x

Sparklingbroomstick Sat 27-Oct-12 16:18:34

The Citalopram didn't take away my worry about upsetting people Yommy. grin grin

CuriousMama Sat 27-Oct-12 16:25:04

grin I'm glad you worry worts are all sorted now. I can happily have my bath and get dressed up as a devil for the ball. I'll be naughty for all of you don't worry wink

cocolepew Sat 27-Oct-12 16:26:30

I think I 've missed my calked curiousmama grin

I was given betablockers at tge same time. The dr said they would work straightaway to remove the physical side of anxiety ie shaking, rapid heart etc. I didn't stay on them the whole time (Dd had a breakdown and this was why I went on them). But they really helped too.

CuriousMama Sat 27-Oct-12 17:11:28

Aww sorry about your dd coco. You'd do anything to take away their pain wouldn't you? I hate it when mine are suffering x

cocolepew Sat 27-Oct-12 17:55:54

Thanks, it was the worse time of my life. Thankful we found a great therapist and she got better very quickly.

charliesweb Sat 27-Oct-12 18:05:34

I started taking citalopram at the end of August. I was really looking forward to the long summer break and spending time with my children (I work term time). But I spent the whole holiday feeling anxious and worrying about something I'd done. In the end I decided enough was enough and went to my GP. I feel much more able to cope at the moment and when the thoughts come I can push them away instead of dwelling on them and letting them build up into a monster. My husband had reservations at first, but says he can see the difference in me. I am also much more patient with the kids and far less likely to fly off the handle. I used to have a really short fuse. I find sharing my thoughts when they start to eat at me helps me to put them in perspective and stops them getting out of control. That's where mumsnet really helps because there's always someone to listen.

sparklingsea Sat 27-Oct-12 18:29:25

I have been on it for just over a year and had other times over the years that I have had them. They transform my life, really they do, once I have got over the first few weeks of strangeness. I feel totaly normal on them, the best version of me with out the crippling cycles of anxiety. Never want to come off if I am honest!

First time I have been on a thread with sparklingbrook, always imagine you look out onto a lovely sparkling brook as I do the sea?!?

Sparklingbroomstick Sat 27-Oct-12 18:36:45

I wish sparkling but sadly not. grin Landlocked Worcestershire.

YommyMommy Sat 27-Oct-12 19:03:50

Hope you have a fab time at the ball curious mama grin

X x

YommyMommy Sat 27-Oct-12 19:09:02

Thank you sparkling sea and charlieweb!

I'm feeling really tired tonight and can't wait to get to sleep tonight. Just hope I can sleep through until at least 5 or 6 x x

coocoocawhooOOOOO Sat 27-Oct-12 19:24:11

Good thread idea OP, wished I had thought to ask before I started taking Citalopram as was very nervous of any mood enhancing drugs due to mental illness in the family.

I don't recognise myself from the person I was just three weeks ago when I first started. I am on 20mg and think this might be the right level for me as I feel so much better already. I was very sceptical that the anti-d's would work but the better mood almost just crept up on me.

YommyMommy Sat 27-Oct-12 19:30:17

Thank you so much coocoo! I have felt pretty much okay. A little sick and mostly tired. Not sure how I'll get through a day at work come Monday. But I only have one week left then I'm off for two so really don't want to go off sick! X x

squeezed Sat 27-Oct-12 23:05:00

It saved me and allowed me to complete much needed therapy.

On them for 3 years, now been off them. for 15 months. Relationship is now amazing and we're expecting our first child. Work is great also.

There were numerous times I wanted to stop taking citalopram and give up, but it was worth keeping going. I know that I may need meds again, but it isn't too scary because I know I could do it again if I have to.

Good luck with it.

CuriousMama Sun 28-Oct-12 01:23:35

I had a brill time thanks, loads of dances. That allows me to eat the huge burger dp is cooking for me doesn't it? I think they have zero calories if you're still wearing devil horns? wink

Hello all the new posties smile

YommyMommy Sun 28-Oct-12 08:51:09

Day three in the cItalopram house...

Morning ladies,

Thank you for ur sharing squeezed! So glad you had a nice time curious!

I think I had bit of a better sleep last night. I don't think I was awake for long periods of time just waking up n going back over. Still feeling really tired though. I am slowly getting my appetite back too, but still not really able to eat. I feel like I have a cold coming on this morning, but that could b to do with lack is sleep and food lately sad

Still feel like I don't want to b on my own and I'd rather just go to sleep n not wake up. I think that's the worst part of all of this. And the constant nervous feeling that I'm going to loose control of my senses.

Thanks again to all you lovely ladies, the support has been amazing x x

CuriousMama Sun 28-Oct-12 10:23:41

That's good that you slept better and you feel like eating, all will help you smile

This extra hour is great isn't it? I woke at what I thought was 9.45am and it was only 8.45. Not that I had to get up or anything. Just rousing now tbh. Dp's brought me a sausage and tomato sarnie I think he's fattening me up for Christmas grin

YommyMommy Sun 28-Oct-12 10:37:51

Well my little darlings were still up this morning so never really get any benefit to the clocks going back, lol!

X x

CuriousMama Sun 28-Oct-12 17:08:47

Awww that's a shame how old are they? DS1 is in London and DS2 was at a friends but they're 15 and 12.

CuriousMama Sun 28-Oct-12 17:09:17

Ooops friend's.

YommyMommy Sun 28-Oct-12 17:31:17

That are 4 and 6 curious smile it was my youngest birthday yesterday. X x

CuriousMama Sun 28-Oct-12 17:34:57

Aww how lovely, happy birthday to MiniYM xx

YommyMommy Sun 28-Oct-12 17:57:07

Thank you curious, I'm finding it hard to believe I've had him 4 years already! My eldest is at his friend playing.

I've been feeling really anxious most of the afternoon, but nothing I can't handle! wink

Think I'm starting to get up tight about going into work tomorrow, but it has to b done as I don't want to go off sick again! X x

headinhands Sun 28-Oct-12 18:05:05

Been on it twice. Wonderful stuff. Easy to get used to, few side effects, easy to wean off. I found that as I got better I couldn't notice the effect of the meds. The first time I was on them I probably weaned myself off them too quickly and had a second round a while later.

CuriousMama Sun 28-Oct-12 21:11:43

Good luck for tomorrow.

How is your breathing? Do you find you hyperventilate or that you just don't breathe properly when anxious ? If so there's an NLP tip that works, I've been doing it the last couple of days. I'll find it and post it.

CuriousMama Sun 28-Oct-12 21:12:43

It's on here an anti bullying website that has NLP tips.

YommyMommy Mon 29-Oct-12 08:55:10

Morning ladies,

Well it's day 5 and I'm sitting at my desk in work. This morning didn't feel as difficult smile I'm really hoping the meds have started to do their job and hopefully I can only feel better from now on. I know there will still b tough days ahead, but hopefully the will b a little easier to deal with now.

I actually laughed with my boys yesterday and it wasn't forced. smile

Curious, I usually just get a really tight chest then feel like I'm going to freak out sad

How is everyone else today? X x

CuriousMama Mon 29-Oct-12 11:02:34

oh that tight chest is awful isn't it. You just know you're going to die and it's your heart. wink

So glad they're working already they worked really fast for me too but didn't want to say and give false hope.

I'm doing good today off out in the sunshine soon it's dp's last bit of time off then back to work (nights).

Tc xx

YommyMommy Mon 29-Oct-12 11:20:20

Lol curious grin

I glad they can work quickly. I'm almost scared to admit that I'm starting to feel better case I'm not really, iykwim?

I hope you enjoy ur day in the sunshine with DP! Are you going somewhere nice?

X x

Sparklingbroomstick Mon 29-Oct-12 12:50:19

Hi Yommy. I hope you are seriously impressed with yourself that you are at work. That's very good going. x Are you able to concentrate ok?

YommyMommy Mon 29-Oct-12 12:57:50

Thank you sparklingbroom,

Yes I am quite impressed I made it in grin

I don't have a big work load on at the moment as we are pretty quiet, but I have been able to do the things I have had to. smile

X x

YommyMommy Mon 29-Oct-12 14:30:56

And this afternoon my anxiety has hit the roof again...this is the problem with having too much time on my hands :/

Damn you stupid anxiety sad

Sparklingbroomstick Mon 29-Oct-12 15:42:04

Yommy is it long til you can go home? You may find the anxiety comes and goes and may increase in the first couple of weeks. Hang on in there...

YommyMommy Mon 29-Oct-12 15:55:52

Sparking only another hr to go. I can really leave anything after 4 as we work flexi but would have to make it up done other time! Hmm!

I realise I have some way to go. I only have 4 days left to work then I'm off as I am going into hospital for small Op. so I just need to hang on in there for a few more days smile x x

YommyMommy Mon 29-Oct-12 18:01:23

So my day was ending well until I came home to a phone call from my health visitor. I guess she has been asked to check up on the boys sad I feel gutted by it. My boys are find and their welfare hasn't suffered at all through this episode. This is all made worse by the fact that I don't even like the woman sad

Sparklingbroomstick Mon 29-Oct-12 18:20:51

sad Can you just ring her and say 'they are fine thank you for asking'.?

YommyMommy Mon 29-Oct-12 18:50:09

Yeah I'll try that. I think she'll want to come out n see them at the house. Hopefully she'll come out once and see they are fine and not bother me again smile

cocolepew Mon 29-Oct-12 19:02:52

Good luck for your op smile

YommyMommy Mon 29-Oct-12 19:07:05

Thank you coco, it's not until next Tuesday. Hopefully it will make a big difference for me at my time of the month smile

CuriousMama Mon 29-Oct-12 19:51:55

Sorry you're having a hard day. I didn't know the HV had concerns? That can't help?

YommyMommy Mon 29-Oct-12 20:35:54

I don't think they do have concerns, I think they are just doing a follow up to make sure the boys are still being looked after. I think they are just doing their job...

Sparklingbroomstick Mon 29-Oct-12 20:37:30

Box ticking Yommy. Nowt to concern you. Just let them do it and smile politely.

Are you having some time off following your op?

YommyMommy Mon 29-Oct-12 20:42:43

Yes I think so sparking...the last few time I've been at GP I've been in a bit of a state (emotional wreck). Yeah I'm having a week or two off to recover so hopefully but that time the meds will have fully kicked in smile x x

Sparklingbroomstick Mon 29-Oct-12 20:45:00

It's all looking good. I am really excited for you. x

Llareggub Mon 29-Oct-12 20:51:35

Hello, just thought I would post to say I am three weeks ahead of you and I feel like a new woman. My DCs are the same age too. I started on the meds three weeks ago following a diagnosis of depression and anxiety. I have experienced episodes of real happiness this week, and I have definitely found it easier to do routine things. Keep going!

YommyMommy Mon 29-Oct-12 21:12:21

Thank you llare, I really hope I do to in the weeks to come! Thank you for posting! What dose are you taking? If you don't mind me asking?

I'm glad someone is excited curious grin how was ur day with OH? Did the sunshine stay out for you? X x

YommyMommy Mon 29-Oct-12 21:13:42

Sorry sparkling...that excited bit should have been for you...oops grin x x

Sparklingbroomstick Mon 29-Oct-12 21:14:26


Llareggub Mon 29-Oct-12 21:39:36

Same as you - 10mg.

CuriousMama Mon 29-Oct-12 23:12:48

grin Day went great thanks, dp ds2 and I went to Durham. The Cathedral always feeds the soul.

Tonight ds2 came to a writing club with me. He's 15 in the morning so I was honoured. He's the writer not me, I'm ok though but more an artist. I'm on painting a watercolour for him for his birthday. He asked me to do one from the Stephen King Dark tower series. No pressure! wink

You sound so positive YM, and it'll keep getting better smile

YommyMommy Tue 30-Oct-12 07:38:26

Morning ladies,

Day 7 is here! My anxiety is still through the roof this morning sad and I never slept great. I'm up n ready for work so will see what my day brings.

I will need to give the health visitor a ring this morning, so will keep you all posted on that angry

X x

YommyMommy Tue 30-Oct-12 07:39:35

So glad you had a wonderful day yesterday curious! Hope ur DS has a wonderful birthday. And what a great present! X x

YommyMommy Tue 30-Oct-12 09:05:59

Lol, just noticed this morning that I'm only actually on day 5 of meds...don't know how I get to day 7! D'oh! X x

CuriousMama Tue 30-Oct-12 09:38:58

Morning YM,

sorry to hear today hasn't started so well, are you in work today? Try a bit of positive thinking if you can, pop to the loo and relax your breathing then visualise a really happy time in your life,or something/someone that you feel blessed to have in your life? Me if you like? wink Anxiety is bloody awful don't let it beat you though. The mind is very powerful but you can change your thinking.

With me it's panic disorder so I know it's all linked to my thinking. It's quite amazing how I can start to think I'm going into panic and then it escalates. I'm getting a hold of it now but mega stress can trigger it. A lot of it is linked to my breathing though. Plus I'm doing the NLP (from a book and tips online) and changed my diet, taking vits/minerals. Too much sugar and caffeine is bad for me.

By the way I finished my painting I'll try to link it to my profile page if I can find the attachment for the phone. My camera isn't compatible with this computer.

I hope your day improves xx

cocolepew Tue 30-Oct-12 10:06:17

Morning YM, I used beta blockers (benedrol?) to help with the anxiety while I waited for the ADs to start working. Maybe this could be an option?

If you're having an ablation, on tuesday, it will definitely help smile

YommyMommy Tue 30-Oct-12 11:02:24

Thank you curious,

Yeah I'm at work and my anxiety has subsided a great deal from this morning. smile I would love to see your picture if you can up load. Will need to go onto my computer at home as can't do anything like that on the phone.

And you are so right about the positive thinking. I reality I have not one thing to b negative about. I have 2 beautiful, amazing little boys, a wonderful DH who is worried sick about me right now. And you of course curious grinWe have a comfortable life style. It's all good. I think I've just been through so much the past few weeks it's taken it's toll. I just need time to recover!

Coco, I really hope I the ablation makes a massive difference. It will stop me worrying about my HB every month too blush

X x

CuriousMama Tue 30-Oct-12 11:15:42

I'm glad you're feeling ok. I uploaded the painting. I'm pretty pleased with it smile It's 12" by 8" watercolour. DS1 was over the moon with it.

YommyMommy Tue 30-Oct-12 11:28:15

wow, curious mama, the painting looks amazing! You are very talanted!!

CuriousMama Tue 30-Oct-12 11:30:55

blush Aww thanks. I did take a while doing it, 2 hours-ish. I had to keep hiding it when ds1 came downstairs.

CuriousMama Tue 30-Oct-12 11:34:29

Looks much better when you can actually see it, too small on here. Are you on FB Yummy? If so you can add me if you want, some of my other paintings are on there. Just inbox if you want to.

YommyMommy Tue 30-Oct-12 11:40:23

Yeah curious I'm on fb. Inbox me and I'll give you an add x x

cocolepew Tue 30-Oct-12 12:07:31

YM you'll need more than a couple of weeks off after an eblation, I had 9! Though I had a bladder repair and my job is very physical. You aren't alowed to lift anything more than a teacup for the first two weeks.

cocolepew Tue 30-Oct-12 12:08:34

Wow! Your painting is epic shock

cocolepew Tue 30-Oct-12 12:10:09

Actually maybe I wasn't allowed to lift because of the bladder surgery, ignore megrin.

theodorakis Tue 30-Oct-12 12:12:15

I used to take them in the UK, now take Cipralex. Changed my blooming life, enabled me to have kids, drive a car and generally join the adult population.
The initial few days are a bit horrid, brace yourself but I suddenly felt a tiny little bit positive for the first time in years on the third day. It was like the clouds had parted and the sun started getting through. I know it sounds soppy but I am so so grateful to the person or people who developed this drug.
The silly dreams subside after a bit, either that or you just get used to them anyway. I second sparkling, I used to get in the car, drive halfway to the shops, panic and run home. Now I think "what was all that about?"
All the very best and keep an open mind.

YommyMommy Tue 30-Oct-12 12:21:45

Coco, you had me worried there grin doctor side I was to take rest of week off, but should feel fine to go back after that!

Thanks Theodorakis, can I ask what country your in now?? It's still very early days yet and I've not had any horrible side effects yet...can they still come? I just hope they do the jobs as don't want to end up back at square's too distressing sad

X x

theodorakis Tue 30-Oct-12 12:28:59

I am in Qatar now. I am so proud to be able to cope with Doha traffic! I felt a bit anxious and had some weird dreams but that may be due to the fact I was so anxious anyway. I have become much nicer to myself as we'll, I have massages and pedicures and spend time doing what I want to do sometimes. Massage really helps if you find a good therapist

CuriousMama Tue 30-Oct-12 12:32:07

Will do YM. Thanks coco smile

CuriousMama Tue 30-Oct-12 12:34:46

YM Can't inbox you for some reason?

YommyMommy Tue 30-Oct-12 12:39:50

I got ur inbox curious! Thank you x

Brices Tue 30-Oct-12 12:54:46

My doctor has just prescribed cilalopram day 1 this morning. I'm glad to read all the positive stories.

I should have asked the dr but is it the same as Prozac? And do you think it is addictive?

YommyMommy Tue 30-Oct-12 13:11:28

Hi Brices,

I don't think it's addictive. I think you have to come off it slowly (when the time is right) but that's to prevent horrible withdrawals, etc!

Have you taken ur first one? X x

Sparklingbroomstick Tue 30-Oct-12 13:15:33

Hi all. My GP says Citalopram isn't addictive. I reduced over a couple of months and I am 5 weeks free of them now. It's all good. I was on them for 15 months in all. x

Onadietcolabreak Tue 30-Oct-12 13:18:27

I take mine (40mg) in the morning, and honestly never felt any negative effects at all.
That plus plenty of walking has brought be back from the brink (literally)

I've been on them long term and due to my fathers death a few months ago, couldn't be bothered to take them for about a week, and relapsed badly, but as soon as I took the 1st one, felt human again.

Good luck OP x

Onadietcolabreak Tue 30-Oct-12 13:19:30

Oh and good luck Sparkling x

CuriousMama Tue 30-Oct-12 13:20:14

Can't be addictive as I came off it for months, only went back on when mega stess brought my PAs back. Am off it again now (for a month-ish) and aren't craving!

Sparklingbroomstick Tue 30-Oct-12 13:21:36

Hi diet. Walking really helps doesn't it? Gives the adrenalin somewhere to go.

cocolepew Tue 30-Oct-12 13:46:26

I came off it over 2 months in the summer, I had no problems coming off or since I've been off it and I was on it for over 2 years.

The only side affect for me, while I was on them, was lack of libido blush. Thankfully I gave an understanding DH!

cocolepew Tue 30-Oct-12 13:46:57

Have, not gave!

Brices Tue 30-Oct-12 13:57:52

That's all good to hear. I've taken the first one and fingers crossed it works well...

YommyMommy Tue 30-Oct-12 14:17:40

Well done Brices grin keep us posted how you go x x

skyebluezombie Tue 30-Oct-12 22:20:19

I've got a lack of libido too, not a problem, seeing as STBXh walking out was the reason I am on them grin hope to get off them before I meet somebody else though , lol

CuriousMama Tue 30-Oct-12 23:12:06

skyebluezombie, how long have you been on them? They didn't affect my libido but we're all different. Good luck with your love life though, sorry to hear about your ex.

YommyMommy Wed 31-Oct-12 07:31:10

Morning ladies,

How is everyone today?

I've woken with a low mood today. Just want to crawl back into bed. This whole thing is just exhausting sad

X x

theodorakis Wed 31-Oct-12 09:03:42

I have a major assignment due today for my masters and haven't started yet. In fact, I have crawled back to bed for a while. Drinking earl grey tea and eating midget gems and listening to radio 4.
Sometimes it is necessary to go back to bed!

YommyMommy Wed 31-Oct-12 09:06:35

Well I'm at work now so no going back to bed for me! I'll have an early night! X x

theodorakis Wed 31-Oct-12 09:55:21

We have Eid here, 10 days off work! I am up now and trying to start my work. Have a good day

YommyMommy Wed 31-Oct-12 10:09:11

I have relatives who live in the middle east. Do you like it theo? We were hoping to move to Oz next year, but I can't even think that far ahead at this moment in time sad

I'm feeling a little brighter than I was this morning. Pill number 6 is in ma belly. I really hope they start taking effect soon.

When should I go back to GP's if I think they might not b working? I know I might just need a higher dose. I just want to start feeling normal again...this truely sucks sad

theodorakis Wed 31-Oct-12 10:15:09

Give it a few more days. I love it here, I feel much more free to be myself. i have been 10 years away now and although it can be a bit wobbly very rarely, the ability to have a work/life balance and a good quality of life is the best choice we ever made

Brices Wed 31-Oct-12 10:26:12

Hi my GP said 7-10 days yet the pharmacist said four weeks to feel a difference.
Sorry that your feeling low today, hopefully tomorrow you may notice an improvement.
I'm just glad help is on the way and I've taken action with the dr yesterday. Worst for me is the guilt I feel at being so "flat" to DC 20m and 6m.
Starting reading a book last night called Into The Darkest Corner which is really good. The protagonist has anxiety, OCD and PTSD and is a very good story as well as being insightful.
Hope your feeling better soon Yommy x

YommyMommy Wed 31-Oct-12 10:27:00

Sounds like a great life style! That's exactly why we want to go to Oz. hopefully we can get there!

I will give the pills a few more days.

What ages ate your kids? Do they live out there with you? X x

YommyMommy Wed 31-Oct-12 10:30:58

Brices I feel that too. My kids just seem like such hard work at the moment. In reality they are great kids and it kills me feeling like this. I think a lot of the low mood is guilt that I do feel this way.

Wish I could just shake it off angry

cocolepew Wed 31-Oct-12 10:56:57

DH gound that citalopram didn't worrk for him, he went onto fluoxetine and noticed the difference within days.

YommyMommy Wed 31-Oct-12 11:07:16

Thanks coco, I'll give it a few more days. I just want this to work and to start feeling better :/

CuriousMama Wed 31-Oct-12 11:51:49

I think when the placenta comes out they insert the guilt wink

It can take more than 2 weeks for them to work. Why not ring the surgery and ask to speak to the dr? Sometimes they ring you back.

YommyMommy Wed 31-Oct-12 11:56:59

Yeah think you are right curious smile

I 'll wait to see how I feel tomorrow. If no better will ring for appointment. I have hv coming out to see me Friday morning too. X x

CuriousMama Wed 31-Oct-12 12:30:42

Just be kind to yourself. You work and have two young dcs, no mean feat.

Brices Wed 31-Oct-12 14:07:17

grin placenta out, guilt in!

YommyMommy Wed 31-Oct-12 14:24:20

How have you been feeling Brices? X x

Brices Wed 31-Oct-12 16:01:23

Ah same old wink
Teething babies, dreading leaving house later but will force myself too, just want to crawl under a stone.
Let's hope these tablets work soon...

YommyMommy Wed 31-Oct-12 17:45:22

Oh happy Halloween ladies grin x x

CuriousMama Wed 31-Oct-12 18:28:39

Happy Halloween from me too smile I'm loving it, had loads of dcs at the door, must've been around 50 so far? Some so cute.

Sparklingbroomstick Wed 31-Oct-12 18:31:40

Hi everyone. Happy Halloween. Only one lot so far. Those Fun Size Mars Bars may be coming my way later. grin

YommyMommy Wed 31-Oct-12 19:57:43

We had loads of kids too!! My boys have enough stuff to keep them going for weeks grin lol!

One of my favourite times of the year smile

X x

CuriousMama Wed 31-Oct-12 20:22:02

I started a thread on trick or treaters, we had loads too, was great. I love it mainly because of ds1's birthday being the day before so we've always celebrated. Plus any excuse for a bit of fun smile

skyebluezombie Wed 31-Oct-12 23:11:14

Curious - I think I started on them around the end of May. I just couldnt cope with the shock of the ex walking out with no prior warning....

I was told that they could take up to four weeks to kick in, but I started to feel better within days, but I was barely eating at the time, so dont know if that made a difference. When I hit a plateau and the dosage was upped, it took round 7-10 days for it to level out again.

YommyMommy Thu 01-Nov-12 09:48:27

Morning ladies,

How is everyone feeling? I'm still not feeling as good as I hope I might have been sad

I'll give meds til next week and if they are still not having effect need to go to GP's. I think the might be having slight effect as I have been able to eat a bit more. My mood can be up and I think I'm feeling better then it can go right back down.

Possible that it is working slightly, but need more that 10mg.

Just want to wake up in the morning and not feel that I can't face the day ahead.

Sorry for all the doom and gloom x x

CuriousMama Thu 01-Nov-12 11:37:08

How awful for you skyebluezombie sad

I'm ok thanks although been to dr's with ds1 this morning because he's TOTT. Been like if for ages and he went to the dr over a year ago about it but they didn't take much notice. This dr was so thorough, she looked at his tonsils, they were big and red so she's told him to take pain relief. He hasn't had an appetite and was beginning to think it's normal to have a sore throat, hadn't even mentioned it! He's 15 btw. Anyway he was supposed to go for blood tests at a different surgery at 11 and exdh was picking us up to give us a lift, got to 10.53 and no joy so I rang the GP's and thankfully got in tomorrow. I'll get there without exdh though. He said he couldn't get here any sooner but I know he's always late. Don't know why I relied on him tbh? Luckily my lovely dp is very reliable, just works night shift so was asleep.
I didn't have a good morning to start with. DS2 has problems at night, thinks there are snakes in his room. He had calmed down but it's flared up again. Plus he's just gone 12 but still has occasional wet nights. He came in with me this morning and was soaking!So I had 2 beds to change and had to make sure he was in the bath. I did get annoyed with him for getting in with me when he was wet. <guilt>
Sorry you're not feeling so good YM. I hope you feel better soon? When have they told you to up your meds? You won't stay on 10mg that's just to start with. Usual dose is 20mg.

skyebluezombie Thu 01-Nov-12 11:48:10

Yes, I was on 10mg for two weeks then as no side effects I was upped to 20 after two weeks. That worked for a couple months then I went s bit downhill again, was upped to 30 and have been fine on that ever since

CuriousMama Thu 01-Nov-12 11:55:45

A friend of mine ended up on 60mg, I hadn't heard of that before? She's a lot heavier than me I wonder if weight has anything to do with it?

YommyMommy Thu 01-Nov-12 11:59:26

Oh no curious, sorry about DS's, it's horrible when they aren't well isn't in sad have they both gone to school now?

Your DS's are at a great age! I love my DS's, but can't wait to have lots of fun with then when they are older grin

This is my last day at work til Monday, hopefully I'll feel a bit better over the weekend. I'm only in 1 day next week the in for Op on Tuesday.

My DH works away from home do he will b home Monday too! Cannot come quick enough! X x

YommyMommy Thu 01-Nov-12 12:04:02

Thanks skyblue, I will go back to GP's next week n see what that say!

Curious, I was just reading a thing this morning too that said 60 was no proven to be any more effective than 40 so possible could have been a weight issue?

X x

CuriousMama Thu 01-Nov-12 12:48:55

Dss are off this week go back Monday. I wish I could win the lotto and travel around the world with them, and homeschool at the same time. I really miss them. God knows what I'll be like when they leave home! sad

Keep thinking positive thoughts YM. When you feel a niggle of negativity creeping in, think of anything to take your mind of it. Your favourite colour, something little one said, a sunflower or future trip? Maybe keep a little book of blessings, you could write happy thoughts in it and open it whenever you feel down at work? It sounds twee but it's all tools to change your mindset. Or even try to imagine yourself surrounded in your favourite colour, just a minute of this can help boost your mood.

YommyMommy Thu 01-Nov-12 13:05:07

No that would b nice curious!! Not sure about the home schooling though, think I'd bring a private teacher with us grin

We had our October break a few weeks ago. I get to drop both boys at school and nursery before I come into work, which I love doing. It's great seeing them go into school smiling smile

Your right curious I've written a list of positives today and yesterday and it does help! X x

CuriousMama Thu 01-Nov-12 16:46:34

That's good am glad the list helps.

DS1's been out for a long walk with the dog, he came back looking rosy cheeked smile He also went to buy a new monitor and keyboard from PCworld/Currys and got ripped off (another thread) I was raging! We won't buy from them again!

So are you home now YM?

YommyMommy Thu 01-Nov-12 17:18:23

Yes curious I'm home now with my boys. Glad my working week is over smile

I'm looking forward to bed time tonight I must admit!

That's terrible about ur DS getting ripped off :0 can he not take stuff back n get it else where?? How is he feeling now? X x

CuriousMama Fri 02-Nov-12 00:07:10

Enjoy your weekend YM smile

Ds1 is keeping the stuff we'll just put it down to experience although am tempted to email head office? No doubt I will.

Am off for a weekend with dp tomorrow until Sunday so will chat soon and see how you and everyone's doing? xx

YommyMommy Fri 02-Nov-12 08:41:47

Thank you curious! I hope u enjoy ur weekend away with DP, are you going somewhere nice?

Well I think my mood is def lifting, but the crippling anxiety is still with my! It's so draining!

Hope everyone else is well! X x

QuicheLouise Fri 02-Nov-12 09:56:39

Hello, may I hop on too?

I hit rock bottom yesterday and went to see my GP - started on 10mg today.

I hadn't realised that I had let things get so bad - my anxiety has got worse and worse over the last year and a bit and I've been struggling on and finally, yesterday, a dear friend insisted that I went to the doctor.

I'm actually feeling better already - just the relief of knowing that I should feel normal again in a few weeks is relaxing me.

I have three situations that make me ill with worry - an 18yo who is very difficult a 16yo who is a breeze in comparison but has a serious health issue and money worries. These things are not going to go away just because I am taking these tablets but I am hoping that I will be able to feel mentally well enough to deal with them like a normal person rather than being consumed by them. In the last year, I have been riddled with anxiety, up almost every night for hours with diarrhoea, panic and terror flooding through me, feeling (and sometimes being) sick. Needless to say, any day that follows a night like this just feels like climbing a mountain.

The sun is shining here today and I actually slept well last night. I feel so relieved that I've taken a positive step to turn things around. I'm prepared for some initial reactions and ready to persevere through to the other side.

Best wishes to you all.

YommyMommy Fri 02-Nov-12 10:12:32

Welcome Quichie smile

I have just taken my 8 tab today! My mood is definitely lifting but the dreaded anxiety is still around.

I hope you start to feel better soon. I was the same last relieved to have help.

Don't worry about side effects too much, I've had very little. Can feel a bit jitter a few hrs after I've taken first one but it passes!

Keep us posted on how ur doing! Lots of lovely support on this thread smile

Good luck and I hope they work well for you x x x

headinhands Fri 02-Nov-12 10:35:15

Hi Quiche. I found that the meds made the bits in-between the worries much better. I could relax and enjoy myself more so when I did have to grapple with the crap parts I had more energy to problem solve. Glad you're already benefiting. smile

CuriousMama Fri 02-Nov-12 10:45:25

Morning, welcome QuicheL.

I'm off to Northumberland. The weather's awful today but it doesn't matter. It's just nice to get away.

Have a good weekend everyone x

Brices Sat 03-Nov-12 13:25:56

Hello everyone! Glad your starting to feel your mood lift Yommy. I'm on day 4 now and my mouth and jaw are feeling weird and jittery. I read in the paper that PND is associated with stomach pains and over the summer I've had ultrasounds to check for gallstones. I'm hoping the cilalopram will help. Strange how mind / body all connected.

Blue sky here in Herts hope it is for you too in Northumberland Curios

YommyMommy Sat 03-Nov-12 14:46:31

Hi Brices,

Not having a great day today. Never slept great last night so really tired.

We are off to see the fire works tonight so looking forward to that. Just hope I sleep better tonight n feel better tomorrow! X x

Brices Sat 03-Nov-12 14:54:53

Dr said that's one of the worst aspects of all this the not sleeping properly. Start off negative and tired which makes everything a struggle. I'm getting really impatient now for these tablets to start working, you must be too!
Not that keen on Saturdays as DH works, just trying to go with the flow and hope DC have settled afternoon.
Enjoy the fireworks, wrap up well!

YommyMommy Sat 03-Nov-12 15:00:35

Yeah I am too Brices. I am pretty much up n down at the moment. My little angels seem to b playing up more than usual today! Hmmmm!

Very much looking forward to bed time grin x

QuicheLouise Sat 03-Nov-12 22:44:04

I didn't sleep well either and have felt low and anxious all day today. Yuck.

I'm really hoping for a better night tonight and to feel a bit brighter tomorrow.

Send you all good wishes

YommyMommy Sun 04-Nov-12 08:35:40

Morning quiche,

That's pretty much how I feel every day. The morning are the worst. I'm falling asleep as soon as I get to bed, but waking about 5. This morning I never had that nervous feeling in the pit of my stomach so I'm hoping that's a hit of the meds kicking in now.

I think I'm going to opt for a relaxing day at home today. Need to take DS 1 to football practice this afternoon but other than that a chill out day!

Hope everyone else has a good day! X x

CuriousMama Sun 04-Nov-12 22:38:28

Hi all, I had a lovely time thanks and yes the weather was good. I had a bit of a panic attack on the way there though. Been having chest pain (central) but I think it's indigestion? and had a pain 2/3rds for the way there which made me go into panic. My vision went sad Luckily dp is very calm,poor bugger was driving. He just said, don't panic, and mediatate. It worked.

I had a lovely time whilst away but came back to mega stress. Poor exMIL is very poorly. She's 89 and has leukemia, she's really not good. Exdh asked us to go for dss at her house. I adore exMIL she's the most wonderful person. I got such a shock when I saw her though, she's so so ill. I've been supporting exdh trying to advise him on her care etc.. but he's all alone. His brother won't help twat. He's there quick enough when she's doling out thousands of pounds to him but not when she needs care. Anyway that's really stressed me out but I'm coping. Just feel stabby towards exBIL blush
I've told exdh to ring SS and to ask her GP for morphine when they go tomorrow as she's in constant pain. It's awful seeing her suffer sad

Talking of citalopram it did affect my sleep tbh. It affects everyone differently though. Once it's properly in your system you should start to feel much more confident and less stressed? It can take weeks to work properly or work quickly?

YommyMommy Mon 05-Nov-12 08:58:14

Hi curios,

Glad you had a great weekend. Other than the small panic on the way there :/ it's great the meditation worked - just proves you are now in control smile

So sorry to hear about dMIL sad that's such a shame! I hope they can get something for the pain today, poor soul sad

I slept really well last night, best I have in weeks. Not sure if it's due to the meds or the fact that DH is home tonight grin I hope it's the meds as don't want to go back down hill once he goes back to work sad

I am feeling very nervous about Op tomorrow, just can't wait until its all over n done with!

Hope you all have a good day today! X x

CuriousMama Mon 05-Nov-12 09:43:55

I think you'll start to feel even better once the op's over with. It must be on your mind a lot? One less thing to think about is a good thing smile

exMIL wasn't sick yesterday and slept well last night smile That's good to hear.

Take care and I'll be thinking of you xx

YommyMommy Mon 05-Nov-12 11:19:53


How do you meditate? Did you buy cd's or books? X x

CuriousMama Mon 05-Nov-12 13:26:27

I just go into the quiet. Close my eyes and imagine something/somewhere that relaxes me. Imagining a light filling my body helps too, a calming colour. Red probably wouldn't work unless it's a calming colour for someone but if I need energy I imagine orange. For calmness it tends to be blue or green for me? Or lavender. xx

Happylander Mon 05-Nov-12 13:42:07

I have been on them for about 6 months now and feel good. Still lacking in energy and motivation but getting there. Life is certainly much better. I never actually remember to take mine at the same time everyday due to shift work but doesn't seem a problem. I also have no libido and like sky that's not such a bad thing as ex walked out on me a year ago for OW. I am actually liking the lack of libido really as it means I am not wishing I had a man and I am very happy on my own grin

I can't remember who said further up the thread that they lost their appetite initially but that it came back with a vengeance and so has mine. I loved being slimmer but over the past 3 months I haven't been able to stop eating and I have put on the 2.5 stone I lost sad Keep trying to do something about it but never get very far LOL.

Good luck OP

CuriousMama Mon 05-Nov-12 18:14:18

I've had a tight chest sensation for a lot of today, triggered by stress. I'm seriously thinking of starting citalopram again? I'm worrying about exMIL. She's just been told by the hospital that she does have a fractured spine, L3 vertebrae. So she's suffered for 8 weeks being told by GPs it's old age and she's just worn out. hmm
Plus DS1's going through GCSEs and that's stressing me out. He's really bright but one subject he can't do and doesn't like is French. They've put him down as being able to get an A. He won't and says if he doesn't get what they say he should get then he gets detention every night after school. I'm so angry about this. I think I'll talk to his tutor?

I'm glad you're feeling better Happylander smile

YommyMommy Mon 05-Nov-12 19:23:37

Hi curious...

Life just seems to b an never ending bag of stress at times, doesn't it??

How on earth did exMIL end up with a fractured spine :/ she must been in agony sad

And as for ur DS, that is terrible the school putting that pressure on him angryit's not like French is of a great deal of importance unless you plan on using it in the future!

You are under some stress right now, do you think you could ride out the storm for a few weeks? Tight chest is very normal with stress...just try to keep ur self calm!

I'm bathing my little angels at the moment. We are waiting on Daddy coming home grin I'm feeling good tonight, but already worrying about him going on his next trip and it's not for two weeks! I have a great family, but can't have them stay over for the rest of our lives, lol!! Just want this whole crazy mess to bugger off n let me b anxiety free smile

X x

CuriousMama Mon 05-Nov-12 19:29:03

Hi YM, I know I should try to ride it out but it's so uncomfortable. I think I'm perhaps hyper-sensitive to stress and get these symptoms? My bp is normal as I checked it.

I'm glad to hear you're having a good night smile

brighthair Mon 05-Nov-12 19:34:05

Citalopram and propranolol for me. Generalised anxiety disorder and panic attacks which are now 95% controlled. CBT helped me, and also working out things to do when I was panicking. I literally say to myself now "what's the worst that can happen? You are not ill, it's not your heart" and I try to make light of it by thinking in my head when I feel it coming on "oh hello panic!" And then carry on with my day
Exercise helped me too by making me realise being out of breath and my heart racing wasn't always a bad thing grin

YommyMommy Mon 05-Nov-12 19:56:06

I know just too well how horrible anxiety can be at its worst curious. I managed to get through it all once and was fine, but this time has been much worse...I think if I didn't have to deal with the ill health I would have been fine!! If it's not to bad I'd say try to ride it out...if it too much to manage def go back to GP!

X x

TheMonster Mon 05-Nov-12 19:59:06

I've been on Citalopram for about five years now. I started on 20mg, went up to 60mg and have been back down on 20mg for about three years. The initial side effects were bizarre, but it's all fine now.

CuriousMama Mon 05-Nov-12 20:14:43

Thanks YM. I have a few left over from last time. I think I'll make an appointment with the GP anyway. xx

Glad you're ok BOE.

CuriousMama Wed 07-Nov-12 21:25:57

How's everyone doing? I've gone back on the meds tonight as can't shift the symptoms. They're too debilitating. I tend to get like this when I get too much stress. Oh well never mind eh? smile

BluelightsAndSirens Wed 07-Nov-12 22:27:01

Anyone mind if I join in?

I've just started taking 10mgs again today because I'm a bit of a train wreck tbh.

Worst part is how I feel towards my children, so short tempered and I even cried at them this morning, DH asked me if I had been taking the tablets the GP had given me in September and I admitted I had stopped taking them because I felt sick.

I have that constant feeling of impending doom, tight chest, knotty stomach and short of breath.

I can only sleep if taking sleeping tablets and I've lost soo much weight nothing fits me and I look gaunt and ill cause I'm just under 8 stone with no appetite at all.

Not a positive post for you yommy but I am trying and hopeful and will book into see the GP again soon, I'm also working with 3 DC in school so no chance of crawling into bed and giving up sad

CuriousMama Wed 07-Nov-12 22:35:52

Hi Blue sorry to hear you're struggling and with so much to cope with too.

Your post is positive in regards to citalopram, you know they help and are back on them. I personally think they're quite miraculous. I know once mine kick in again I'll cope really well with my stress.

So sorry about your sleep problem, will citalopram help with this? Is there a trigger for your anxiety? Have you had any therapy e.g. CBT?

I hope you start to feel better soon chick, and welcome to the group smile

BluelightsAndSirens Wed 07-Nov-12 22:45:55

Thanks mama posting does help although this is the first time I've mentioned it on MN.

My anxiety kicked in last June when I returned to work after 3 years at home with my girls, I honestly feel like any minute something awful will happen. Driving is a nightmare, I was physically shaking and sweating driving home tonight and kept thinking I was about to flip the car!

I loved your link to the breathing and focusing technique, I had CBT many years ago and I suppose it's time to think about some techniques now.

I'm a really shit mum ATM, I honestly don't enjoy life at all and today my mums sw called to say they were planning to section my mum under a vulnerable adult clause, I haven't seen her for years cause she won't let me help her and I'm so scared I will end up the same way sad

CuriousMama Wed 07-Nov-12 23:15:38

You aren't a shit mum, you wouldn't even say that if you were. Bad parents don't care enough to mention it. We all feel guilty, especially those of us going through MH issues. I feel guilty every day and my dss are older, it never goes. Just different reasons to feel it. I think a lot of us with MH issues can be a bit hyper sensitive anyway, so we feel things more? I'm not saying we care more, we just feel so many emotions. IMO anyway.

I'm sorry to hear about your mum. What was your childhood like? This is more likely why you feel worried about ending up like this, what you've experienced will affect your thoughts. I'm betting you won't end up like your mum. Have you voiced these fears with your GP?

Yes my breathing and focusing is good except when it doesn't work. Hence me going back on the meds. I'm not even a nervous person, there's something in me that kicks in and I get PA symptoms? It's so strange?

Well I'm off to wash the supper pots and then bedtime for me. Take care and keep posting.

YommyMommy Thu 08-Nov-12 09:47:37

Morning Ladies,

Curious I hope the meds Start working for you really quickly! Did ur GP give you then no problem? I am going back to GP today to have mine reviewed. I was in for my Op on Tuesday and an now feeling fully recovered from that. Was a bit sore when I woke up after, but other than that been fine. grin

Blue sorry to hear ur having such a crap time right now! Hopefully the meds will start working for you really quickly! And curious is right, you are not a crap mum, the fact that u care proves that! X x

BluelightsAndSirens Thu 08-Nov-12 15:06:29

Thanks for your kind words, finished work but was a struggle so silly because I could do my job with my eyes shut but I have this awful feeling and tight chest, so frustrating!

Glad you're feeling better yommy and hoping everyone has had an easy day.

CuriousMama Thu 08-Nov-12 17:13:56

Thanks YM and so happy the op went well smile x

Blue I have the tight chest it's hard to shift isn't it? Also feels like a ball in my stomach? It's going now with the meds, kicked in quick but I've been on and off them a lot so could be why? Keep posting on here for support chick x

BluelightsAndSirens Thu 08-Nov-12 17:40:18

I'm sure the ball in the stomach is what suppresses the appetite.
Day 2 for me and feelings not eased, my rant and tears yesterday hit home with the family as they have all put their school things away and the oldest 2 made pasta for dinner which helps because I'm exhausted.

CuriousMama Thu 08-Nov-12 18:55:10

I still eat blush

Well done dcs for pulling rank. It'll get easier and if it doesn't go back to your GP.

YommyMommy Sat 10-Nov-12 10:08:02

Morning Ladies,

How is everyone doing? My acute anxiety is still hanging over me sad I def think I need my meds upped. Although they must b working to some extent as the ball of anxiety is no longer in my tummy. But it's still just so exhausting.

My boys stayed out last night so me n hubby just has a quiet night in with Chinese. I'm still lying in bed, but planning on getting up n having a clear out. We are literally running out of space in the house! blush

I had my first proper session with my counsellor yesterday, but I don't think it help at all! I'm just going to wait n see the CPN on the 26th November.

Hope everyone is having a nice weekend! X x

BluelightsAndSirens Sat 10-Nov-12 10:40:50

I've only just got up! The DC have been great and have been making me birthday cards for tomorrow.

I also plan on having a clear out of the wardrobes today if I manage to move my bum of the sofa smile

Sorry your session didn't go well, I can imagine counselling to be very draining. I spoke to a collegue yesterday because I'm getting my knickers in a knot about driving to and from work, I keep having images of being involved in a massive car accident and he suggested hypnotherapy so I'm looking into it.

Still don't feel much better although not as sweaty and shaky, hoping for a quiet weekend still lots of washing and tidying to do sigh.

YommyMommy Sat 10-Nov-12 10:54:58

It's nice to have a relaxed morning isn't it? How old are ur DC? I hope you have a wonderful day tomorrow!

I really need to clear out toys as there is no an ounce of space for Santa to bring another thing!!

I have just stripped their beds so that's one thing off the list smile taking it in small bite size portions! Looking forward to snuggling with boys later n watching you've been's a family fav grin

The counsellor wasn't too draining, but just wasn't able to offer me anything I didn't already know! sad

Well now that I had my portage for breakfast I better get started on the house smile good luck for a good day blue x x

CuriousMama Sat 10-Nov-12 12:37:22

Hi all,

Sorry your anxiety is high YM but glad there's some improvement. It's the pits isn't it? sad

Good luck with your clearouts YM and Blue. I have lots of decluttering to do, my boys are 12 and 15 and growing fast. DS1 is around 6ft and ds2 is almost my height, 5' 8". Plus like you say we need to make room for Christmas although my 2 mainly like games although DS2 still plays with hundreds of action figures and needs no more of those!

It's day 4 for me back on cit. I'll take it later. I feel really crappy and hope it's just the meds kicking in? They've taken away some of the anxiety but I still feel bad. I'm speaking to my GP on Monday, she's ringing me. Hopefully she'll have some ideas on what to do? I'm on a wheel of going on cit and coming off then on again. It seems after a couple of months the panic attacks come back with a vengeance? No idea why, just out of the blue. Usually triggered by stress but even so they do seem to just come on?

I did yoga yesterday and that helped a lot as distracted me plus the breathing helped the tension in my chest. I use this dvd, it's so easy to follow.

Forgot to say I got more on my plate yesterday. DS1's been for blood tests as he's tired all the time, been going on for ages. We got a letter saying his blood sugar is slightly raised so he needs another blood test. I'm worried but trying to keep things into perspective. He's cutting down on sugary things straight away which is good.

Have a good weekend everyone chat soon x

YommyMommy Sat 10-Nov-12 12:50:08

Yeah curious it really is the pits!! I really hate feeling this shite!!

My toy room is cleared. I am going to have some lunch - although still not much of an appetite sad after that I will either fill my black bin or drive to the skip!

My hubby has gone out for the day so have peace n quiet!

Sorry to hear about DS curious! It's probably nothing to worry about though. If he has a high sugar diets then he will b likely to feel tired as suger goes out of system quickly. I better get a move on...still to have a shower blush ah lazy Saturday's rock grin

X x

CuriousMama Sat 10-Nov-12 12:56:52

enjoy your lazy Saturday YM smile Dp's gone to visit him mum and step mum he'll be back soon though. We're having a lazy weekend. Dss are at their dads.


YommyMommy Mon 12-Nov-12 10:48:02

Hi ladies,

How is everyone? I'm so flipping tired!! Getting pretty sick of feeling like this...argh!!!

Anyone watching the jungle?? I'll b addicted for next 3 weeks now smile x x

CuriousMama Mon 12-Nov-12 14:14:17

Hi YM,
I'm not too bad. GP rang and has agreed I can be on the citalopram. She wants to see me in 2 weeks. I'm trying to rest as feel whacked out too. I didn't sleep well last night.
Yes I'm watching the jungle and will be addicted too. DS2 has been waiting impatiently for it. Helen Flanagan has panic attacks am amazed she's gone in. She seems a nervous wreck though so must have a lot of phobias too?

YommyMommy Mon 12-Nov-12 14:51:02

That's interesting to know about Helen, I would go into the jungle though! Would you not?? grin for the past few years I have said I would let anxiety get in my road. I used to b petrified of getting on a plane after DS1 was born, but in the past few years I've flown to Dominican, turkey and even flew down to England on my own with boys grin major achievement! grin

I've been out and about today and so am feeling quite good compared to how I was feeling this morning. smile

Hopefully this mood lasts the rest of the night!

How have you been feeling other than tired today curious! I really hate how tired this can make you feel! It's almost debilitating at times. Hope you have a nice restful afternoon. I need to go get DS1 from school! It's been wet and dull ALL day here do hoping I can leave DS2 with daddy n go on my own...knowing DS2 that's almost impossible he's such a mummies boy!

Take cars n speak soon misses x x

Brices Mon 12-Nov-12 16:42:59

Hi day 13 for me today and still no improvement so they've increased to 20 mg think I'll start tomorrow.
Here's hoping we have a good week!

YommyMommy Mon 12-Nov-12 16:47:55

I'm still on 10 Brices, have had slight improvement but not as much as I thought!! I'm back at work on Thursday and my hubby is away again a week today so that will b the real tester for me sad

Fingers crossed we all have a good week! grin x x

KinkyDorito Mon 12-Nov-12 17:29:56

Hi all, can I join you?

Signed off with anxiety and starting 20mg tonight.

I've been under pressure for nearly 2 years now and it is taking its toll. The tablets won't take this away, but I am hoping that they will help me settle down. Awful IBS is making it hard for me to function.

CuriousMama Mon 12-Nov-12 17:34:14

Hi YM and Brices,
I don't think I'd go in the jungle, not that any of the tasks would worry me but I have panic disorder so feeling trapped isn't good. Mind you if Eric Bristow can take in his baccy then I could take my meds? :D
I'm feeling a bit better now. Dp's been looking after me. He's back to work tonight, he works permanent nights. I can sleep ok without him.
As for the meds I've got a heavy head at the moment, still got a tight chest. Just had a sharp headache too which wasn't nice. Only been on it a few days so will persevere.
Wow Brices that's flown over! You'll feel better when you're on 20mg. 10mg is the usual starting dose but I've been on mine a few times so my GP thinks straight onto 20 is ok. Didn't tell her I'd already started them blush
I hope you'll feel ok when dh is back at work YM? Can you not ask your Gp to up your meds? Maybe you could chat on the phone? Even 15mg may help?
Well dinner's been easy tonight which is good. I'd batch cooked some veggie shepherd's pie last week so just had that and have roasted some sprouts. The topping is sweet potato, turnip from my allotment smile and mashed potato. We'll see how ds2 fares with that? DS1 will eat it ok.
Take care all chat soon xx

Hello all. Haven't said hi for a while. I started on 20mg, I don't think 10mg was mentioned. confused

Been off them since beginning of October, but I think the anxiety is rearing it's head again. sad Got GP appointment Wednesday but not sure what I want to do really.

CuriousMama Mon 12-Nov-12 17:39:12

Hi Sparkling, it's bloody annoying isn't it? You think you're on top of it and bang, it's back. What symptoms do you get? I really can't understand it at all? Total mystery? Anxiety is in my family that's the only thing I can think of?

It is annoying. Difficult to explain too Curious. I just have this ball in my stomach, lost appetite (like a lump in my throat). Not all the time, but it all feels very familiar. I am an anxious worrier, always have been. sad

I have put on a few pounds on the Citalopram so was just starting to get into losing it, walking etc.

I don't even know what to say to the GP. It's only been a month since I skipped out of her office all great. Perhaps it's a blip, after all you can be anxious and not need meds, but I will go back on them if need be.

CuriousMama Mon 12-Nov-12 17:52:01

Have you tried yoga? If your anxiety isn't too bad it may help? Are you taking a multi vit and minerals? I hope this passes for you? I wish I could've been off them longer as I think it was the same amount of time between coming off and going on again, last time I tried? I'm wondering if it's just what happens? The feeling was and is so strong and really spoils life so I'm trying meds again. I tell myself if I had high bp or any other medical problem I wouldn't worry about taking a pill. It's just because I can't pinpoint a cause for this? And feel as if I should be able to iykwim?
You should be ok weight wise if you're walking more smile

I am taking Multibionta. Never been to Yoga. I have been trying to have a lie down and think of nothing for half an hour every day and just try to empty my brain.

I wouldn't be surprised if Christmas was at the root of it. Went to the shops on Saturday and just felt agitated and overwhelmed.

CuriousMama Mon 12-Nov-12 18:29:44

Can you do your shopping online? I've cut right back this year. Thankfully the friend who's really hard to buy for said shall we not bother now and she'll just give the dcs some cash smile Phew! All she wants is a photo of the dss. I only buy for one other friend and already bought her presents as I saw them. Family don't bother much I buy for mam and her dp, my sister. Dp and I have decided on a £20 max spend on each other. DS1 hasn't asked for much as he's got a new posh PC so is blissed out. He'll probably want a game or something? DS2 never knows what he wants but said he'll have a karaoke. So he's sorted. What is it that may stress you about Christmas Sparkling? Is there any way you can delegate any of it? A friend of mine stopped 'doing' Christmas a few years back. She has fibro and ME and couldn't do it so stopped. She doesn't send cards or anything. I can see me doing this once the dcs are up.

CuriousMama Mon 12-Nov-12 18:31:34

Oh and I do Yoga for dummies dvd at home, 12 easy poses. It really helps my breathing. But I just found this one that's a bargain.

YommyMommy Mon 12-Nov-12 18:59:09

Welcome kinky,

Hope the meds start working for you soon!!

Sparkling I am finding the thought of Christmas a little overwhelming too!! When I was younger my Mum never enjoyed I can totally see why, but at end of the day it's not about us it's about the kids, but I think us mum's put too much pressure on ourselves to make everything perfect! Has anyone seen the asda advert where it's the mum running about daft! N ends by saying behind every great Christmas theirs Mum...nothing like a bit of pressure, lol!

Hope you all have a nice's almost jungle time grin cannot wait to see the trial!

Hope ur tea was nice curious...we has Mexican smile my appetite is slowly coming back x x

CuriousMama Mon 12-Nov-12 19:03:10

blush I just saw Kinky's post, eek. Hiya Kinky. Did you know citalopram can help IBS? Hope you feel better soon?
Thanks YM tea was lush. DS1 is in the loft so ate his there, ds2 is out with his friends, dp is in bed as starts work at 11 tonight so I ate alone. I roasted some brussel sprouts totally lush grin It's good your appetite is returning YM.

I think for me it's the EXPECTATION of Christmas. sad DS is 13. wink

CuriousMama Mon 12-Nov-12 20:05:30

I never really had decent Christmases as a child as my parents weren't that into it? I think I did when very little? My siblings are all older and had left home by the time I was 6. My mam still doesn't bother much she eats her Christmas dinner on boxing day for some reason? Dp and I enjoy it and dss still love their stocking, even though they're 12 and 15. It's much harder to fill as they age but at least ds1 is starting to shave so got him a nice kit for that.

KinkyDorito Mon 12-Nov-12 20:17:43

Thanks all smile. I am looking forward to Christmas as DH will actually get some time off with us for the first time. We are also going to my Mum's. I do cater for Christmas Eve, but after that I am catered for which is nice. However, I am already irrationally anxious over whether it will snow so we can't go, and whether something awful will happen before then that will spoil it all...

I have to say though, if I was having it at home I would say sod perfection and spend large amounts of it sitting on the sofa with chocolate and Baileys. grin

I really hope it does help IBS Curious - it is getting ridiculous. I can't sit in a meeting for more than two minutes without having to run out of it. Given that my life revolves around important meetings about DD, this is not helpful. It's built up stress, she has cancer and I have had the worst 2 years of my life trying to juggle that with my job and keeping the home going. It's got to a point where it has built up that much I can barely function. I could sleep for a year.

First pill popped an hour ago. I feel a bit out of it. hmm Wonder if this is psychological as I'm looking for it? I was on prozac last year and that made me want to kill myself for 10 days before it kicked in properly. Didn't ever sort the anxiety out though.

I started taking them for the second time 6 weeks ago and they started to work after 5 weeks (was 6 weeks last time). I take 20mg in the morning, sometimes I feel sick but it only lasts a few seconds and the it is gone. I have had a couple of nights where I couldnt sleep but apart from that I am much happier and getting off my arse again.

How long were you off them Second?

YommyMommy Mon 12-Nov-12 21:21:49


So sorry to hear about ur DD sad what age is she? I can't even begin to imagine what you must b going through!

X x

CuriousMama Mon 12-Nov-12 23:18:34

Kinky that's awful for you all. How is she doing? I hope you get a lot of support on her and in RL x It's nice you're going to be pampered you deserve it. I hope the meds help you and soon.

Well am off to bed now night all, sweet dreams x

CuriousMama Mon 12-Nov-12 23:21:47
KinkyDorito Tue 13-Nov-12 05:58:38

thanks thanks thanks

Not much support in real life unfortunately - have as much as people can give, but everyone works FT too, so nobody really to help me manage things like taking time off. DH (not her dad) does what he can, but some of the infections she has had mean she wants me and she's needed quite personal care. She's 14; she was diagnosed in Jan 2011 with leukaemia. Treatment is nearly 28 months, so she's due to finish chemo in April 2013. Just under 6 months to go. She's okay at the moment, though full of cold which has made her neutropenic (very low immunity) so more at risk from infection. Infection with neutropenia always ends up in hospital. For the first 18 months we pretty much lived there as we were in and out so much.

Thanks for link Curious, I will have a read.

Can't sleep, feel like whole body is on fire. Now feel spaced out from lack of sleep. The first week of ADs - what joy! Nurse is coming to take bloods from DD this morning and then I have to drive her to school, so I am hoping that I feel a bit more with it by 9.30. I also have DS(3) who is a monkey and likes to play me up, so hoping he is feeling kind this morning.

Cant ignore the above, sorry to hear this. Have you considered asking 'Home Start' for some help?

Hi Sparkling, I was off them for 2 years but started to feel very forgetful, low mood and wasnt getting anything done. I would have one or two days a week where I just sat doing nothing. I call it my wading through treacle days, like I have a virus and everything is hard work yet you know you havent got a virus. X

CuriousMama Tue 13-Nov-12 14:28:55

Aww that's a shame KD, about the support I mean. Does she still see her friends? I hope the chemo is successful and she can be on the mend again. Do you go on any support sites online? I know they're not for everyone. Plus there's always MN smile I hope you feel better soon x

I'm a bit better today, feeling optimistic. Dp and I are out dancing Thursday night so that'll be a test.

YommyMommy Tue 13-Nov-12 16:06:23

Hi curious,

Glad to hear your having a good day smile i've been okay today. Really nervous and a little excited about going back tomorrow! Just looking forward to trying to get back to normal!

What kind of dancing are you going??

What did you think of task on Hinckley last night? No way I could have done that with top nailed down blush and there is no way they will do tonights either! The eating would b my worst challenge! Lol!

Hi everyone else! Hope you are all well! X x

CuriousMama Tue 13-Nov-12 16:50:46

Hi YM,
that's good that you're feeling ok and excited smile Hope it goes well for you am sure it will.

It's salsa/jive we do. Fast and furious! The time flies by. It's from 8pm until 11pm and most of that is dancing, with some chatting too. We've made some nice friends there and mix with them away from dance too.

I could've done the tast last night I think. I quite like small confined spaces <weirdo I know> I wouldn't fancy the eating thing but would try. Helen was so funny saying ' There's a twig in my hair' grin xx

CuriousMama Tue 13-Nov-12 16:52:26

tast?? I meant task blush

YommyMommy Wed 14-Nov-12 11:04:42

Hi ladies,

How are you all? I'm made it work this morning without too much trauma grin

I'm feeling good about handling today so well! Fingers crossed the meds are finally working! I never want to feel as bad as I did a few weeks ago...EVER again! sad

Hope ur all having a good day too!

Curious I think I might have been able to do last nights task...other than the spider! There is no way on earth I would have managed that! Lol x x

Hi all. I'm back on 10mg with a review in 3 weeks. I am happy with that I think. smile

YommyMommy Wed 14-Nov-12 12:11:52

Hi long as you are happy and they work for you!! I hope they kick in quickly! X x

Me too Yommy. It's 6 weeks to the day since I stopped them and I am a bit disappointed because I thought I was doing well. But can't do Christmas feeling like this.

YommyMommy Wed 14-Nov-12 12:39:40

This is probably the toughest time of the year to come of AD's, lol! It's hard work, the weather is always crap, and it's always dark! Try again in a few months n you come off no probs smile x x

You are right Yommy. I think the Spring would be better too.

CuriousMama Wed 14-Nov-12 13:52:55

Afternoon all.

Yes YM I think I could've managed that task. They both did well though didn't they?

I still have a heavy/tight feeling in my chest. I wish that would go it's like a brick in there. I'm wondering if it's something else but then that can be anxiety talking? I didn't sleep well last night am hoping that's just meds kicking in?

You sound brighter Sparkling I hope you feel back on form soon smile

YommyMommy Wed 14-Nov-12 15:02:43

It's just the anxiety curious!! Honest grin tell it f right off smile

Yeah they both done really well on the task !! Who's up tonight? I never seen the end as I really love Heston's fantastical food on channel 4 grin

Looking forward to heading to the jungle tonight!! Sad I know! Lol x x

CuriousMama Wed 14-Nov-12 15:29:58

Thanks yes I'll tell it to do that wink

It's not on tonight sad Football's on instead. Mind you that's the England game afaik? You may get it up there? They should put it on ITV2 instead. xx

YommyMommy Wed 14-Nov-12 15:44:48

Oh no...gutted now sad I doubt the will show it to us a lot of it is live! I must check! Lol!! X x

CuriousMama Wed 14-Nov-12 15:53:34

Well if you do see it I'll be envy I wonder if we'll see a double one on Thursday then? xx

YommyMommy Wed 14-Nov-12 16:07:06

Well I just checked and we don't have it either sad I hope there is something decent on channel 4 then or I'm going to b peeved! Tv is bad enough these days!! X x

YommyMommy Wed 14-Nov-12 16:09:37

Grand designs is on...the night has been saved, grin lol! X x

CuriousMama Wed 14-Nov-12 16:12:49

Yay for Grand designs grin Not that I watch it but happy for you. I think it'll be netflix for me? xx

YommyMommy Wed 14-Nov-12 16:24:12

We have Netflix too curious, but I'm not overly happy with the service to b honest! I'm probs on the cheapest tariff, but the boys like it.

MissPricklePants Wed 14-Nov-12 16:41:54

Can I join in? Started taking citalopram yesterday, have been prescribed 20mg. I have a review in 3 weeks. I have gotten myself into such a low place, snapping at my dd who is 3 and crying loads. I am a lone parent and have been since dd was 4 months old but ex is not hands on and I get zero time to myself due to ex having little involvement and when she is at nursery I'm at work. Hopefully I will feel better soon. Hope everybody is doing ok.

Hi Prickle. You might find the next week or so tough going but it will be so worth it. x

MissPricklePants Wed 14-Nov-12 16:45:49

I hope so, fingers crossed!

The way my GP describes it is that Citalopram 'takes the rough edges off' and enables you to get on with stuff Prickle. That's how it felt to me.

MissPricklePants Wed 14-Nov-12 16:57:33

Thats how my GP described it too. Hoping I will be able to cope with things a bit better instead of wallowing in self pity and cry my eyes out!

Exactly Prickle. Watch out for a few side effects to start with. Probably clenchy jaw and vivid dreams to start with. Oh and feeling a bit on the warm side.

KinkyDorito Wed 14-Nov-12 17:26:47

I had a dream that Chucky from Child's Play was trying to kill me last night. That was in between the bits where I was wide awake and hot... confused

3rd pill tonight. Nothing apart from hot flushes at night, the dream and feeling a bit spaced out around Tesco. I'm hoping it doesn't get much worse - fluoxetine was evil for the first 10 days. I just wanted to curl up and cry. I was off my face.

Secondhand thanks for Home Start suggestion. I've actually seen our social worker today (we get one automatically with child's cancer dx) and we might get a volunteer to help take DD to school whilst I'm at work, which would take some of the pressure off. I think they were concerned because I'd come out of work with stress. thanks

CuriousMama Wed 14-Nov-12 19:34:07

Welcome MissPP, sorry to hear about the ex. I hope you start to feel brighter soon am sure you will x

KD it's good you may get a volunteer, how does dd feel about it? Sounds like you have a caring social worker? smile x

I've had a better day. This morning I took ds1 (15) to the nurse for his blood test. His blood sugar is slightly raised. She wasn't overly concerned. He seems less tired which could be due to the fact he's having pepsi max, water and OJ for drinks now instead of full sugar pop and water, plus minimal chocolate. He took the dog out for a good walk tonight too instead of straight on the PC smile

YommyMommy Thu 15-Nov-12 10:31:46

Hi lovely ladies,

How are you all feeling today? I woke up feeling very anxious. Think the vivid dreams have started...not scary, but not pleasant either, just plain weird!

It's my past day at work today, yipee! X x

CuriousMama Thu 15-Nov-12 14:48:48

Hi YM and everyone, I'm lots better today smile Feeling almost normal, or as normal as I get wink

I hope you get over your anxious feeling and soon? It's the pits!

Dp's going dancing tonight on his own, he'll be fine though lots of friends there and he dances with all the other women. I want to rest until next week then I'll go.

YommyMommy Thu 15-Nov-12 15:15:13

Hey curious,

No need to lie about just wanting to stay in and watch the jungle wink lol!

Glad you are feeling better today.this morning is the worst I have felt in a while, so hopefully it was just an off day! smile

Looking forward to going home and having cuddles with all my boys! X x

CuriousMama Thu 15-Nov-12 15:26:34

grin you got me!

Aww that's a shame you still don't feel so good. Enjoy all those cuddles when you get home x

Pinkpeacock Thu 15-Nov-12 15:46:08

I have had these symptoms on 10mg and, for me, dropping to 7.5 (which means awkward cutting up pills) stopped the dreams and foggy feeling and I am feeling like a normal human adult person! My psych says this is practically homeopathic dose but it really helped me.

MissPricklePants Thu 15-Nov-12 18:29:07

Well day 3 for me and so far no side effects. I am expecting them though!

YommyMommy Thu 15-Nov-12 19:03:25

Hey miss pickles, I'm sure side effects start pretty much straight away. I've not had much with them either and this is my 4th week. I'm only on 10mg though, if I can manage at this level I'll b pretty happy! grin if not I'll up them!

X x

MissPricklePants Thu 15-Nov-12 19:15:00

Hopefully I will avoid the side effects then. I am hoping 20mg will be the right dosage for me if not will up them, needs must eh? How do you feel now 4 weeks down the line?

Hi All, this is my second time on Citalopram. Last time it took 6 weeks to work, this time it was 5 weeks. I am now on week 6 and starting to feel a lot better although I am still waking up with clenched hands and teeth and a very stiff jaw (often wear a mouthguard at night to stop the grinding/clamping).

I do feel much better and my only side effects are a dry mouth but it isnt bad and I keep waking up in the night and too early in the morning but it is waking up with energy so I have been doing a lot of early morning tidying up.

I have also started a part time job in a charity shop which I absolutely love and this is giving me the kick to get out there. I have also been helping a teenage girl with learning difficulties who has been having work experience at the shop so I have to be on the ball to look after her.

KinkyDorito Fri 16-Nov-12 03:48:32

SecondhandRose note the time of my post. I feel your pain re early waking! I fell asleep at 8pm last night and was awake by 2am. I hope this gets better. It's okay whilst I'm not at work (though it disturbs poor DH who has to get up early anyway) but I'm not sure I could hack it in the long run. I do feel kind of foggy, like I should still be asleep.

YommyMommy Fri 16-Nov-12 09:17:02

Morning ladies,

How is everyone today? I feel quiet tired. I keep waking early, but could easily sleep on...very annoying! I hope this passes?? Does anyone else feel jittery when they wake up? Also was wondering if when you up ur does do the side effects increase or just stay the same?

I am heading into town to have my eyebrows done. Don't have an appointment so hoping they can just take me! Might even try for a hair trim!

Hope everyone has a good day!! X x

CuriousMama Fri 16-Nov-12 09:44:14

Hi all,
Not so bad today thanks YM. Dp's off work so he's doing the vacuuming only wearing his boxers so I'm enjoying the show grin He made me lush porridge too.
Not much planned today, am off out with the dog,will pop to the allotment later on. Just having a chill out day.
Take care all xx

YommyMommy Fri 16-Nov-12 11:42:15

Lol, curious!

Does he have a body like David haye grin

I have just finished my Friday house work n having a wee seat before I have to pick up my boy at 12.30. I thought I was cleaning my bath with bleach, turns out is was domestos, lol!! At least it's germ free now grin

Hope you enjoy ur relaxing day curious! X x

Hi all, better night last night. Woke up twice but went back fairly easily but have been tired and yawning all day today. Side effects dont seem to change much for me except the tiredness today.

Still got a stiff jaw and clenched hands, got the doc on 28th so will see what she is. She is an absolute angel, dont know how I have never seen her before.

Feeling more positive, doing a bit of buying and selling on Ebay and just picked up some tester pots to try out in the hall. House is a tip but then again it always is as I never seem to be able to finish any job!

Hi Second, picking up matchpots and even considering decorating is great. grin

CuriousMama Fri 16-Nov-12 18:02:50

Evening all,
Not had a bad day still got the chest thing.

No YM not Daved Haye grin but he does it for me wink

Glad you had a better night SR. I've just sold some walking boots on ebay for £31 which more than pays for dp's Christmas present. The boots were some dp had bought in the US and he reckons they've gone for more than he paid smile The company I'm buying his gift from takes paypal too so that helps with ease.

Just been told by exdh he's off to USA for 2 weeks, goes midweek. His rich mate is paying, again. I always get told last minute. Alright for some eh? hmm Luckily dss don't mind, I think they're used to it? Exdh's mam's in hospital though so she'll miss him but she did encourage him to go.

Have a good Friday everyone xx

YommyMommy Sat 17-Nov-12 17:08:52

Hi ladies,

How's everyone's Saturday been? I've had a busy wee day. DS1 has swimming lessons at 10.30 then home for some lunch then out shopping. DH treated me to some

I am absolutely dreading him going back to work on Monday! sad

CuriousMama Sat 17-Nov-12 22:43:12

Hiya, That's nice you got some new clothes smile

I've had a quiet day. Been to the garden with dp and did some errands. Still have a tight chest and lots of belching blush I think I have trapped wind although some is coming up. I need peppermint?

Sorry you're dreading Monday. Are you feeling any brighter in yourself yet?

YommyMommy Sun 18-Nov-12 13:07:46

Hey curious,

Yeah I do feel a bit brighter...but I'm worried I'm going to feel down again once DH leaves as my anxiety will hit the roof again. In a strange sort of way I'm looking forward to the challenge as if I can through this two weeks then I have pretty much broken the back of it...finger crossed!

Will check in again later grin

Glad you had a relaxing day yesterday!

CuriousMama Sun 18-Nov-12 16:01:16

That's good you feel brighter. It is a long time to be alone with the little ones. Will you see many people who can help out? Or have your friends round for a girls night?

YommyMommy Sun 18-Nov-12 16:09:03

Yeah I have a lot of family and friends around so I'll b okay. They are staying out one night night weekend so I'll get my lie in then! DH has worked away 2 on 2 off for past few years n it's never been a problem...but my anxiety has never been this bad. I'm sure it will settle down again in a few weeks smile

How had ur day been??

Hi to anyone else lurking grin x x

CuriousMama Sun 18-Nov-12 17:52:34

YM have you always had anxiety or do you think something triggered it?

It's good you have support smile

My day's been ok. I've made garlic bread by hand from scratch today and it's just come out of the oven, looks lush. That was the highlight of my day until dss came in from being with exdh.

YommyMommy Sun 18-Nov-12 18:26:00

No I've not always had anxiety curious. It all started after the birth of's been pretty manageable over the past few years. A few weeks ago I was rushed into hospital for blood transfusion and was in a pretty back way and it seems to have triggered it all off again sad

I know I will get through again. Sometimes I just get fed up fighting this shit battle with my brain every flipping day!

Anyway, on wards and up wards!

How was the garlic bread grin sounds lovely! X x

KinkyDorito Sun 18-Nov-12 19:02:37

Sometimes I just get fed up fighting this shit battle with my brain every flipping day

That's exactly how I feel YM. I'm signed off for another week, but I'm really not sure I can go back yet. Is 2 weeks on meds enough to settle me down? I'm also not sure if I need a bigger dose. I am not depressed, just very anxious. I think I'm on 20mg now.

thanks for all of your help, I do appreciate it smile.

CuriousMama Sun 18-Nov-12 19:46:20

It's weird how things start during or after pregnancy. My panic started when pg with ds2. I started going numb down one side. The tests I've had are unreal, loads of them. I had chicken pox as an adult before getting pg with ds2 and I blame that too. It may have affected some part of my brain? I remember having awful stabbing pains in one part of my head at the back, it was horrendous. Sorry to hear you were rushed into hospital, what a shock for you sad xx

Garlic bread was fantastic, some left for tomorrow. It's so easy to do too. Here it is if anyone's interested?

KD I hope your meds kick in properly and soon. I think two weeks should do it. How's your dd doing? Is she looking forward to Christmas? xx

YommyMommy Mon 19-Nov-12 09:53:59

Hey kinky,

I think the meds need a little more time to kick in. I have been on them 4 weeks now and think I am just starting to feel the effects now. I'm only on 10mg, but thinking if I can stay on an even keel with 10mg I'll b quiet happy with that! Don't worry about going back to work until you feel ready!

Curious, I think we'd b amazed at the amount of woman who are affected after becoming a mum. I am convinced it's def caused by a chemical in balance due to all the hormones?? Lol! Just as well they are worth it grin lol!

I've had a pretty good morning this morning (hubby away back to work) if I can keep this up for the next two weeks I know I'm going to b just find smile

Looking forward to getting home. I'm on the west coast and we are being battered with torrential rain and strong winds today. There are roads flooded everywhere!

Hope you all have a nice anxiety free day! X x

Hi All, well I dont feel great today, I am on week 6 of 20mg. My jaw is still so tight and I am still so tense. My memory is frighteningly awful. Feeling very weary but my biggest problem of all is my low self esteem that gets in the way of everything (always feeling not good enough). I have had CBT before to help with this. Will tell the GP next week and see what she says.

CuriousMama Mon 19-Nov-12 15:37:03

Hi all,
glad you're feeling better YM, you sound so positive smile

I still have pressure/tightness in the chest. I wondered if it was trapped wind as I know stress can affect digestion? So got some windeze but it hasn't worked yet. I'm getting a bit worried tbh and think I'll have to see the GP tomorrow?

SR sorry you're not doing good. I wonder if you need different meds? I hope your GP is helpful when you go?

Hi CM, the GP was wonderful last time I went. I have been on Citalopram before and it worked wonders but feel bad this afternoon. Could quite happily go to bed right now. At least my kids are teens so I might just do the school run and go to bed. My morning was OK and I went downhill from about noon onwards. Who knows? I have the GP on 28th and I am trying to hang on until that appointment.

YommyMommy Mon 19-Nov-12 16:30:59

Being positive is the way I'll get through the next 2 weeks. It's the only way to over come anxiety. I will not let this take over my life again...I've already wasted to much time on it!! angry

We can all get through this! And I know you are all with me...right??? X x

KinkyDorito Mon 19-Nov-12 16:41:53

You're so right, YM. I feel like it is eating my life and I want it to stop.

Dr says he will sign me off for longer. Problem is much of the anxiety is around previous absence from work and I'm worried what will happen with my job. sad

I really hope these meds make anxiety better. Did it help anxiety for you before Secondhand? Afternoons are always tough - energy slump and now dark afternoons. They don't help with feeling positive.

CM can't meds affect digestion too? Possibly try some antacids?

CuriousMama Mon 19-Nov-12 17:18:10

I'm glad you have a good GP SR. Is there any chance you've picked up a bug though? There's allsorts going round right now. That makes you feel low and weak.

KD yes I'm hoping it's meds. It's the tight feeling that worries me. I've tried allsorts to shift it.

No we won't let this beat us. Our brains may not be working how we'd like but our minds can take over and get us well smile

Hi KD, i remember the anxiety disappearing really quickly last time as I had trouble using escalators (what a wimp, I know) as I had a fear of falling.

CM, I have had a bit of a sleep, in bed at the moment and will prob get up to watch IACGMOOH. Helen has definitely had some counselling to get her through the trials.

I have a booked called CBT for Dummies which I need to look at again.

CuriousMama Mon 19-Nov-12 21:31:53

Oh I think I got that book out of the library once? I like the dummies range. I have the yoga for dummies dvd, really good and easy to follow.

I'm watching C'leb now, loving Rosemary grin Helen is like a different person, must be some good counselling to work overnight though?

Morning all, got a good nights sleep and would you believe it I can open my mouth fully and my hands are not clenched! At long last! It has taken 6 weeks though and just hope it stays like this. Feel a bit less tired too. Breakfast now. Have a good day all.

YommyMommy Tue 20-Nov-12 08:19:24

Hi Second rose, so glad to hear ur feeling much better today grin are you on 20mg? I've been on 10 for almost 4 weeks now. I def think its help and would b happy to stay on 10 if I can.

I'm just getting ready to drop boys at school and nursery then head to work...hope my day goes fast! I have a long weekend off ahead. And my appointment with the CPN on Monday!

Hope ur good day continues.

Morning to everyone else smile x x

CuriousMama Tue 20-Nov-12 09:04:09

Morning all,
I slept well too. I did some relaxation and stretching on the bed and it worked smile My chest isn't so tight. It will most likely return but if I keep doing this may go?

Dp's off until Friday night so that's a big help. DS1 won't be so cheeky with him here wink We had a stressy night as he,DS1, was raging at the PC, sounded like a monster in the loft! I turned off the power for up there, he still had light just no PC. He went off it, just what I need. He put it back on whilst I was downstairs but I caught him on FB. So I told him if he didn't put it off I was cutting the plug on loft power. Funnily enough it worked, plus he stopped the cheek wink He knows if I threaten I follow through. Always have.

Here's to us and continued positive days and nights smile

YommyMommy Tue 20-Nov-12 09:29:00

Morning curious,

Glad to hear you are also feeling better this morning. Loving the positive vibes of this thread grin

No jungle for us tonight due to footy...what a cheek! Lol! Just as well I have Heston to look forward too!

I have been trying your relaxation time at night time curious of letting a colour fill my body and relaxing. X x

CuriousMama Tue 20-Nov-12 09:33:01

No jungle!! Oh not I'm not so happy now wink I didn't know that, must've missed them saying it last night?

Glad the relaxation is working, I can feel my chest tightening again so going to do some stretching and relaxing. If it doesn't work I'll make a Gp appointment.

Have a great day xx

YommyMommy Tue 20-Nov-12 09:50:55

The tight chest is def of the most common symptoms! I get it quite a lot too so please don't worry yourself silly that it's something else!! X x

Arcadia Tue 20-Nov-12 10:24:20

Hi, please can I join? Have just been to GP and picked up my first prescription. Am going to start on 10mg today and am worried about side effects especially my sleep because have had a lot of issues with that, but want to have a chance of starting to feel better for Christmas/New Year time.

I really just need to get my head above water again.

YommyMommy Tue 20-Nov-12 10:47:59

Welcome Arcadia,

Well done on seeking help grin you will def start feeling better now that you've taken the first step.

I can say hand on heart I had very little side effects. A little sick the first day or two and lead no appetite.

Good luck and keep us posted x x

Arcadia Tue 20-Nov-12 10:55:27

Thanks yommymommy it was partly reading your posts that gave me the confidence to finally go and do it, so thank you for that!
First one just gone down the hatch and feel more positive already. The GP was so lovely (I knew she would be!) but made me cry quite a bit as I listed my woes. She was brilliant. And my friend came to mind my toddler whilst I was in there and is being really supportive. So fingers crossed will feel good for Christmas!

YommyMommy Tue 20-Nov-12 11:07:29

Yeah...I'm on week 4 and 4 weeks ago I just could not face the prospect of Christmas, but I'm feeling excited about it now. grin

I don't think they pills work straight away...for some they do though. But the def work smile

So glad my post help! It's nice to know! X c

CuriousMama Tue 20-Nov-12 11:37:01

Yes YM it is anxiety I know that now. Did some stretching and relaxing, plus had some cuddles from dp wink so that helped too.

Welcome Arcadia, I'm sure you'll soon start to feel better. It shows how powerful your mind is when just talking to the GP and getting it all out helps.

YommyMommy Tue 20-Nov-12 12:40:36 day is dragging in! Can not wait to get this working week out of the way grin I'm heading out for a site visit at 2 so that will break up my day a little.

That's good you have DP until Friday curious! Will you b going dancing on Thursday?? Does he not get fed up working nights all the time? Must b hard for him to adjust when he has days off? I know when my DH returns from a trip where he's on nights it takes him a good few days to get his body clock back to normal. He usually falls asleep at tea time for a few nights, lol! X x

Hi YM, yes I take 20mg.

CuriousMama Tue 20-Nov-12 18:54:21

Yes I'm going dancing looking forward to it smile

Dp does get fed up, he's 57 so it takes it's toll. It's just good to have a job though really especially nowadays. What is it you do YM?

My day's been good, lots of cooking, made curry and pakoras. The house smells lush when you come back in. I could cook for a living to be honest, time just flies.

Arcadia Tue 20-Nov-12 19:19:49

Hi CuriousMama <waves> thanks for the welcome. Your cooking sounds lovely! I do find cooking and baking is a cheering thing to do on these wintery days. DP and DD made a Christmas cake last weekend and we're going to keep feeding it with brandy.
What kind of dancing do you do?

I've had a good day in the end, one if my friends came round with her kids this afternoon and we hung out, and my neighbour also sent her kid round so we had a houseful for a while which I actually really enjoyed!

Just started to feel a bit sick and shaky but don't know if psychological. Any tips for the nausea?

CuriousMama Tue 20-Nov-12 19:45:13

Hi Arcadia, Dp and I do salsa/jive or modern jive. It's great fun and lovely people go. We've made some friends there which is good. Even meet up out of the dance. Yes cooking is very relaxing, totally distracts you. The cake sounds great, I wanted to make one but only dp and I eat it. And we would!

Glad your day's been good. Dcs really are great at taking your mind off things.

And what your experiencing are side effects, very common. My tight chest is a common one too. Never mind they'll wear off and we have each others hands to hold until they do smile

YommyMommy Tue 20-Nov-12 21:18:09

Curious all your cooking sounds lovely...sadly I prefer eating the food rather thank cooking grin DH is the better cook in my house! I'm in bed watching Heston...I love his shows! Would really love to try his food! It's just magical looking!

Arcadia, glad to hear you've had a good day! smile

I've been feeling pretty anxious tonight. Although I'm feeling quiet crampy and always feel more anxious when I'm due on. I had abdominal ablation two weeks ago to stop really heavy bleeding so kind of hoping it's not going to come to anything...hmm!

Hope everyone sleeps well tonight...including me grin

X x

CuriousMama Tue 20-Nov-12 22:09:02

Dp loves to cook too, I'd say he's probably better than me but I bake best. Plus I cook a mean yorkshire pudding wink

I'm due on too, probably be in a few days. Got a bit ratty today but not too much. I've been taking starflower capsules they seem to help? I hope your operation has been a success?

Night all and yes hope we do sleep well xx

Does anyone have a 'SAD' lamp? Just wondered if they are any good.

CuriousMama Wed 21-Nov-12 08:33:23

I was just talking about these last night with a friend, she hadn't heard of them. Yes they work. I had one years ago lent it to someone but didn't get it back hmm Also bought one for Dp as he's a nightshift worker. I thought it'd help him feel awake during the night? He only used it once so I sold it recently on Ebay for £100. They're expensive if you buy them from Amazon etc.. but you can get a decent deal on Ebay. I think if you buy them from the ones who make them, Philips etc.. you'd get a money back guarantee. It takes a week or so for them to kick in.

YommyMommy Wed 21-Nov-12 10:59:42

Morning Ladies,

How are you all today? My anxiety is pretty high and I never slept well last night...grrrrr! Anyway, at work but been out on site all morning so been pretty fast smile

Hope afternoon is the same! X x

MissPricklePants Wed 21-Nov-12 18:15:21

Just checking in, how are you all?I'm on day 8, not feeling much different but managed to get loadsa housework done and not been as snappy with dd so think it may be starting to help a bit!

YommyMommy Wed 21-Nov-12 18:43:58

Yeah I know what you mean by feeling like your always waiting on something bad's no fun!!

But she will b fine. I'm sure dd's friends dad drives very carefully! X x

YommyMommy Wed 21-Nov-12 18:59:03

Ignore my last message it was meant for another post, lol!!

Hi miss pickle pants, I'm on week for and have to say they haven't worked wonder for me, but must def b working in some level smile I'm still on 10mg.

X x

Arcadia Wed 21-Nov-12 19:43:50

Day 2 here! I Didn't sleep too well either YommyMommy, had about five and a half hours, and feel a bit hyper today but quite cheerful, almost like maybe I invented this whole thing, but then if my mind turns to any of the things bothering me at the moment I feel the negative thoughts kicking in again and remember why I'm taking the tablets. Work was fine today when I was busy with things, good for distraction.

have to get baking DD's bday cake tonight am making her a butterfly cake!

misspricklepants am a week behind you so will keep checking in! I have also been snappy with my DD and hope that will change, I have been so irritable lately.

half way through the week already! smile

CuriousMama Wed 21-Nov-12 19:45:18

Hi all,
glad it's working on some level MissPP. Sorry your anxiety's high today YM sad

I've had a good day, had a good sleep then got up and had lunch and watched a movie with dp. Then at teatime went out and cut 4 peoples hair so made some cash. I'm hoping to build up a client base in the area. I'm not from here and there are around 10 hair salons in the village! It's more of a small town.People stick to what they know out of loyalty but looks like I've poached a few? wink They were all happy with their haircuts. I've got lots of business cards but they have my old home town written on. Apart from that nothings's different same email and mob number. So hoping to bring some money into the home?

Waiting for celebrity tonight, dp's off out for a walk to one of our favourite pubs. They do real ale and there's a quiz on tonight. He'll sit at the bar or may join a team? I'd have gone but want to see celeb blush Saddo I know.

Hope you all sleep well? xx

CuriousMama Wed 21-Nov-12 19:47:04

Hi Arcadia will you post a pic of the cake when it's done? I know you don't have a public profile but you can do one and not put any details on it if you want to?

Arcadia Wed 21-Nov-12 20:06:13

OK but won't be done until weekend! It will be really simple and not at all elaborate tho!

Evening all, well get this - I have had a great day, slept well, not felt too tired, can still open my jaw and have spent all day making the house look nice. Perhaps after 6 weeks they are finally working.

Am in bed early as the boys are watching football and it means i will keep my nose out of the fridge and I can wait for I'm A Celeb and watch it in bed.

CuriousMama Wed 21-Nov-12 20:42:31

smile Arcadia, it'll be a lot more elaborate than I can do.

Great news SR smile It's good to start to feel on the up isn't it?

YommyMommy Thu 22-Nov-12 09:31:24

Morning Ladies,

How is everyone today?? I slept well last night...think i managed about 7 hrs all in smile although I'm still feeling very anxious. Almost through my first week without DH grin although missing him like crazy!

Looking forward to my day being over and getting home tonight. We are heading to my aunts for tea then have to pick up my shopping from tesco on way home.

Hope everyone else slept well! And had a good day ahead! Xxx

CuriousMama Thu 22-Nov-12 11:11:22

That's great news. I would've slept ok but ds2 had me up with his phobia. He half wakes and thinks snakes are in the room. So I have to lie with him. It's getting less often but does wear me out. We had to take him to get an xray today as his foot's been hurting for a week. He's gone back to school now and still wants to do P.E. Dp and I took him to buy some new trainers before school as he needed some tbh. Plus may help his foot?
I really enjoyed doing all the hair last night and had a nice surprise just now. One of the ladies hates getting her hair done and never likes it. It's the first time I've done it. She has really thick long hair and wanted a few inches off and thinned out. It sounds like whoever has done it before has just gone mad with thinning scissors from what she describes happens when she washes it after. I use them vary sparingly and just sliced her hair and layered it. She Fb messaged me to say she washed it and absolutely loves it smile So hopefully she'll tell others and that'll get me more clients? I think the problem is a lot of hairstylists don't spend the time actually listening. I asked her what it is that her hair looks like that she doesn't like. She said it fluffs out. That's when I knew they'd been cutting in too near to the root and it's bounced off her head. She has such amazing hair too. Anyway that's boosted my confidence. When I worked in the salon all those years I did get plenty coming back for their haircuts and colours so fingers crossed I can make a business here?

Ooo I have rambled on there wink Have a good day all xx

YommyMommy Thu 22-Nov-12 11:32:33

Hey curious,

That's all sounds very positive smile fingers crossed you can get your own wee business going and earn some extra cash!!

X x

YommyMommy Thu 22-Nov-12 11:33:23

P.s. ur son phobia sounds very scary sad x x

CuriousMama Thu 22-Nov-12 18:59:29

Yes it is awful for him. He gets up for school ok and always has a lot of energy. He's like a string bean though smile

Off out dancing tonight, have had texts from friends who miss me so that's nice.

Have a good night chick hope you're ok? xx

YommyMommy Thu 22-Nov-12 19:39:34

All good here curious,

I'm home with my gorgeous boys...still doing home work though, hmm!!

Hope you enjoy ur night dancing smile

Hi everyone else! X x

Arcadia Thu 22-Nov-12 22:16:06

Hi all. No horrendous side effects here yet and am hoping I would know by now if they really disagreed with me. I did have a little wave of panic at work but I just distracted myself with something so I was OK. someone at work was having a bit of an emotional crisis today so supporting her took my mind off myself!

Haven't slept brilliantly but not as bad as I expected so far, and I don't feel very anxious about sleep at the moment.

felt a bit sick in yoga this evening so avoided the upside down stuff!

I quite like the feeling of handing over control of how I am feeling so I no longer feel so responsible to keep myself happy and positive, the pills will do it for me now (hopefully) and once they have kicked in properly I hope to tackle some of the things bothering me at the moment!

glad you've had a nice evening with your boys YommyMommy and hope you enjoy your dancing curiousmama.

Morning all, only woke up once and went back to sleep. Nearing end of week six and feeling so much better now, head clearer, remembering things. Am off to London today to do so some sightseeing and look at the Christmas windows. At the beginning of the week I had no interest in going at all but by yesterday I was planning my outfit. Interesting how in a matter of days I finally feel so much better. Better go and get ready. Enjoy your weekends.

Arcadia Fri 23-Nov-12 09:20:27

Glad you had a good sleep seconhandrose, hope you have a good day in London. Am a bit envy sounds fun, and more interesting than my day, probably going the children's centre! Great to hear that they are working well for you, makes me feel really optimistic to hear other people's positive stories.

I slept really well, over 7 hours straight which is good for me smile but am getting slight feelings of nausea and slight anxious/excited feelings in my stomach. My mood is pretty positive though!

Hope everyone has a good Friday!

YommyMommy Fri 23-Nov-12 12:00:30

Morning Ladies,

Secondhand, very jealous of ur trip to London smile do you live near by?? Hope you have a wonderful day!

I had a bit of a shite morning...feeling a limitless over whelmed again, but I'm also on my period so that won't b helping. I have since been out a walk and cleaned n tidied the house grin the weather is lovely where I am today. Heading out to the garden centre this afternoon with my LO and friend.

Hope you all have a good day! X x

CuriousMama Fri 23-Nov-12 16:11:00

Hi all,
I had a great night dancing thanks, hardly sat down!

Today I've started with a tight chest again, not sure why? My period is imminent so could be that? I hope it goes as it makes me feel like not going anywhere. I had planned to go to our church Christmas fayre tomorrow but don't feel like it now.

Sorry you're not so good YM. Good that you've got things done though. Weather was good here too.

YommyMommy Fri 23-Nov-12 18:24:48

Hi Curious,

I ended up having a good day. I made myself make plans/play date at the garden centre n I went grin I'm just back from DS2's swimming lessons.

My sister is over staying tonight, she lives quiet far away so down visiting!

Just ordered chinese and feeling nice n relaxed.

Curious ur period will def be making you feel more anxious. Hopefully you make the church fete tomorrow. We're you planning on going on your own? X x

CuriousMama Fri 23-Nov-12 19:09:37

That's good news YM smile

Glad you're having a nice night with your sister. Dp's just gone to work, ds2 is still out with his friends, ds1 is in his loft room so just me and the dog here. Ds2 should be back soon? I hope so I don't like him being out too late when it's dark.

Do any of you drink whilst on citalopram? I had a few last night and think that may have caused the tight chest? I probably shouldn't drink though as I think it can make you have side effects?

I'll try to get to the fete. I'll go alone but will know lots there.

I just spoke to exmil on the phone. She's still in hospital, not in rehab yet. She sounded so weak and said now she has liver problems sad Exdh is in the USA and she said she's not telling him until he gets back. I just hope she lasts that long as she's so ill. I'm a bit shocked at him going tbh. She's 89 and has leukemia plus so many other health problems. We'll go to see her next week although I'm not looking forward to it as will have to keep the tears in.

YommyMommy Fri 23-Nov-12 19:32:21

I'm not a big drinker curious, always heighten's my anxiety...but I know plenty of people do drink on AD's with no probs at all so don't worry about it too much!

So sorry to hear about xmil sad x x

CuriousMama Fri 23-Nov-12 19:40:41

Thanks I feel better about those few whiskies now wink

yes it's awful, she's so lovely, an absolute diamond. x

xRavenx Fri 23-Nov-12 22:36:12

Do you mind if I join you?

On day 15 now. Was on 10mg for either 6 or 7 days, then up to 20mg, for symtoms of depression. Also anaemic and on iron tablets

I am very tired all the time. I was very tired anyway, but the pills make it a little harder to get to sleep and stay asleep. I have been waking up several hours early, and lying awake for ages longer than normal. Results being i sleep for 7-9 hours a night and need naps in the day as well....I nod off in lectures and seminars more days than not blush

My legs and feet are also far more restless than usual - kicking and tapping and rocking them almost constantly

Otherwise, no side effects. I was really worried about them beforehand, I didn't take the pills for well over a week after being prescribed them, out of worry, but it's been fine

I have some good days and bad days, but I'm starting to wonder if the last few days have been better. Hoping the next couple of weeks see more improvement...

I haven't been drinking since starting them. But to be honest, I rarely drink anyway, so I don't feel that I'm missing out - somewhat unusual for a fresher grin

YommyMommy Fri 23-Nov-12 23:14:34

Welcome Raven grin

I 'm at week 4, but still only on 10mg. I'm on the mainly for anxiety though.

I'm still waking very early in the morning too. But 6-7 hrs sleep is good for me at the moment. I hate that as I love my bed/sleep, lol!

What are you studying?? X x

Morning all, i only managed 7 hours last night after a knackering day in London yesterday. I live in Essex so it takes 90 minutes to get to Harrods from here. Lovely day though. Got a few bits from the make up department for under the Christmas so at least I get something to open that I love.

Jaw still opening wide, still feel good. Week 7 of 20mg starts on Monday and GP visit too next week.

YommyMommy Sat 24-Nov-12 09:46:19

Morning second,

So glad to hear you had a lovely day in London. smile and also so glad to hear the meds are working.

I am back at GP on Monday so kinda hoping they will up my meds then.

My boys have gone out for the day with friends and they are also staying out at their Nans tonight. Hopefully it'll let me recharge my batteries, although I'll miss then like crazy sad

Hope you all have a good day! X x

CuriousMama Sat 24-Nov-12 12:26:14

Welcome xRavenx, sorry you're feeling so tired I hope this wears off soon? I'm sure it will smile

Hi YM and SR. I had a good night's sleep last night. No booze just water and a cup of tea whilst watching the jungle. Did anyone see it? Linda looked so relieved to go and was desperate to see her grandaughter. Thought they were a bit sexist towards Charlie re: trial.

Anyway feeling much better today. Been out with the dog and just chilling now with the dss. Dp's working til Tuesday (nights) so he's in bed. I didn't bother with the fete as slept in blush Had loads of sleep.

Enjoy your rest YM, maybe do some pampering? Or have a friend over for a take out? Oh and then there's the jungle! wink


xRavenx Sat 24-Nov-12 13:33:34

Thanks all smile

I'm studying medicine

I hope the tiredness does wear off soon. I'm not sure exactly what's causing it though - a combination of depression, aneamia, pills and teenager-ness I guess! Luckily just had 11 hours sleep and feeling fine right now

I'm at home this weekend. Always makes me feel a bit better and more on an even keel. I've been feeling down for months but since leaving home it really started going downhill. Homesickness and loneliness does not help one bit. But hopefully time will be a big help on that front

Hope everyone has a good day smile

Question - I am seeing the GP again at the beginning of December, but my pills run out just before. Should I have one day of no pill, or should I split one in half and have 10mg for 2 days? Thanks

CuriousMama Sat 24-Nov-12 13:53:54

You need to ring your surgery and tell them you're running out they'll give you a prescription.

YommyMommy Sat 24-Nov-12 14:53:26

Raven you must b a clever cookie smile

I deft second curious on calling GP's and just asking for repeat prescription before they run out.

Enjoy ur day of relaxing curious!

I am looking forward to just chilling, but missing my boys already! Hopefully I'll sleep really well tonight. I'm tired enough! X x

Welcome Raven, either change your appointment or as already suggested get s repeat prescription or you may find you stress worrying about it.

Good day for me today although not done much, horrible weather. Hoping to put up the outside Christmas lights tomorrow with DH but we dont turn them on until 1st. Forecast is dry. Night all.

Hey guys,
When you came off citalopram, what was it like? Did you crash? I'd be very interested in detailed experiences smile
I was really not expecting for my mood to dip like this, I feel shittier than I have for ages. I had a little shock last night and that did it. I try to keep all emails home bright and chirpy but today it just all came out. I'm due to start another type soon but to be honest I just want to stop weaning off and get my dose back up, even though I know it's only temporary. But I don't know whether it's my actual, original mood coming through which is still needing some help or whether it's the chemicals playing havoc.

I feel so silly for posting a Q like this instead of just waiting for it to pass, millions of people do this. Sorry.

CuriousMama Sun 25-Nov-12 11:57:57

Hi all hope you're having a good weekend? I'm good today. Just waiting for Sunday lunch to be delivered. Never done this before but our local community centre does 2 course for £5 and a child's free! So no point cooking really wink Dp's in bed (nightshift) so just me and dss to feed. DS1 will eat an adult portion though.

SR hope the weather abates so you can get the lights done? Do you go the whole hog or just a few?

quirrel you're best doing as your GP suggests to be on the safe side. Good luck with your new meds though.

^ thanks :-)
actually my new GP doesn't seem to care one bit, she just gave me a month's prescription and told me to drop down to 20mg every other day, my old one was so gentle and caring, and took much more time over things. This new one didn't even ask me how I was feeling which you'd expect if you were dealing with ADs and prescriptions and things. I get the feeling it's because I'm a student and she doesn't really take me seriously.

Glad you're good today- partly to do with being able to relax? grin

CuriousMama Sun 25-Nov-12 13:24:35

That's awful qq. Can you change to another GP?

I don't really want to offend her or make a fuss. And to be honest, she's a GP, she's so busy and sees loads of people like me probably. It's just a change from the friendly little surgery where I lived, which I've gone to since I was little. How does your GP handle things, are you on a repeat prescription yet? I was on mine for months and I was still going back for prescriptions all the time.

CuriousMama Sun 25-Nov-12 14:00:11

My Gp is great. I wouldn't go to one who wasn't tbh. I moved 2 years ago from a big town to a large village and find the Gps here good.

I have come off before and what I did was drop to 10mg by cutting them in half, did this for a fee months and then cut them in quarters and did it very, very slowly. Unfortunately I am back on them and I can finally say I have my mojo back after 6 weeks of tablets (they dont work overnight). Today I have cleaned out some kitchen cupboards, watched Jamie Oliver who inspired me to cook a lovely lunch and a chocolate cake. Done loads of housework and now I am just loading up Ebay to sell next week. Must get a move on with the photos before it gets dark. X

YommyMommy Sun 25-Nov-12 17:37:15

Hi ladies, hope you have all had a good Sunday!! I've been out n about takin boys to football practice.

We're now chilling watch Fred Clause...although its hardly on on boys are getting restless already. Hmm!!

I am going to see the CPN tomorrow at 10.30 to speak to her about some counselling. Wondering if she'll up my meds! I've been feeling so tired today, thinking of swapping my meds back to night time to see if it make a difference. Although it could just b the early morning waking catching up on me! angry

Hope you all have a nice relaxing Sunday evening! X x

CuriousMama Sun 25-Nov-12 19:26:45

Hi all,
I'm at the GP tomorrow afternoon. Not sure what she'll do? I hope your CPN meeting goes ok YM?

Glad you're feeling better SR. It's great when the mojo returns smile

Have a good night all. I'm watching strictly now, jungle later. In between I'll make supper and tidy up. Ironing can wait until before bed wink

YommyMommy Sun 25-Nov-12 21:20:59

I think sometimes it's just nice to have some reassurance from GP curious??

X x

CuriousMama Sun 25-Nov-12 21:22:20

Yes that's true. Are you watching the jungle? x

Arcadia Mon 26-Nov-12 08:32:31

Have posted a photo of the cake for you CuriousMama. For some reason the picture is upside down! Very simple, just cut a cake in half and put it back to back with a mini roll in the middle. DD had a brilliant party on Saturday, I really enjoyed too! grin

YommyMommy Mon 26-Nov-12 11:35:44

Morning Ladies,

Well I'm just out of my meeting with CPN. It went well and she doesn't think I'm going crazy grin she has given me some self help things and will see me again in a few weeks.

What time do you have GP's curious??

Hi to everyone else waves smile x x

CuriousMama Mon 26-Nov-12 14:24:23

Wow Arcadia that's brill, what a good idea. I bet she loved it smile

Great news too YM glad she was helpful.

I'm off to dr's now. Chat soon smile

CuriousMama Mon 26-Nov-12 16:44:00

Well been to dr's and she's sending me to a cardiologist. She asked about symptoms and wants to be sure it is only anxiety? When I say only, I mean not something as well not only in a 'that isn't so bad' way. There's lots of heart disease from a young age in my family so that's why she's getting me checked. Plus anxiety can be a symptom.
She gave me a spray for my tightness which was cheaper to buy over the counter than prescription so that saved me a few pound.

Hope everyone else has had a good day?

Arcadia Mon 26-Nov-12 18:29:42

Is that that for your tight chest feeling, CuriousMama? Best to get it checked out as you say but I remember having that feeling almost permanently when I used to feel panicky all the time, like I could never get a full breath and an ache in my chest.

So are you sticking to 10mg for now yommymommy?

Like some if you I am feeling really sleepy on them and am surprised to be sleeping well, I thought they would be more activating than sedating from what I know of SSRIs. I may have to consider switching to taking them in evening if carry on like this. am bit bored at work at the moment which doesn't help with the sleepiness! Quite nice to feel more relaxed for once though smile

Hi all, another good day here. I think I am definitely evened out although I am still suffering with a problem which I describe as feeling like I am on the outside looking in when I meet a friend. It actually happened with DD the other day which I thought was odd as I presumed it was an anxiety thing.

CuriousMama Mon 26-Nov-12 19:04:43

Arcadia it's that and also been breathless when going upstairs. Plus the family history is poor with regards to heart disease.

Glad you're feeling relaxed smile I hope you can sort out the meds so you're not so tired during the day?

I've had a nice evening up to now. DS1 made some cheesy bread. It's like garlic bread but I'd used all the garlic in our bolognaise so it was just butter and cheese. You cook it in a brownie tin as it's quite thick. Ever so heart healthy wink It's so gorgeous though worth it as a treat. DS1 was so proud of himself smile
That's the bread although ours had no thyme on or garlic.

Have a great night all.

Arcadia Mon 26-Nov-12 20:38:06

that looks delicious CuriousMama , everyone seems to have the baking bug ATM, combination of great British bake off and bad weather probably!

CuriousMama Mon 26-Nov-12 21:10:11

Oh it's far too delicious. I haven't watched the bake off but we're always cooking something here. I'm glad dss are into it too helps me and dp out smile

Arcadia Mon 26-Nov-12 21:47:55

I didn't watch it either (don't see the point when you can't taste it!) but it's definitely popular. I don't get this cupcake fad thought, I find them sickly!

Arcadia Mon 26-Nov-12 21:48:26

Sorry though

YommyMommy Tue 27-Nov-12 09:05:34

Morning ladies,

Well that's my long weekend over, back at work today! My straighteners are broken in that they have a loose wire so I have to hold the cable in and wait for them to heat up the quickly do a little bit of hair, lol!! It's a nightmare as I have a lot of hair and it needs straightened!!

I love hearing about all ur cooking curious! We're not big on cooking in my house, but we do love good food!! I bake with the boys, but it's mainly packet cup cakes blush

Hope you all have a nice day! I forgot to bring my little happy pill to work this morning and am wondering if I should head home n get it?? Other wise I won't b able to take it until about 6 tonight n I'm worried it might affect my sleep...what do you think?? X x

Brices Tue 27-Nov-12 15:28:13

Hi all
Been a while now but thought I'd post that I'm changing from citalopram to venlafaxine. I spent two weeks in 10mg then two weeks at 20mg but still no improvement. So hoping the new one is better. I hope we are all feeling a lot better for Christmas. I'm going to have counselling too and the health visitor has been round and will continue for a few weeks. They think it's more anxiety. I'm writing down what the DC eat and activities so the HV can go through. I think it's mainly to reassure me that I'm looking after them ok. In my head it doesn't feel like it.
Good idea to get an ECG curious just to be on the safe side, hope it turns out well for you.
Sorry to be a downer on the citalopram thread but shows we're all individual and sometimes need to keep going back to get right eh?

YommyMommy Tue 27-Nov-12 16:32:29

Hi Brices,

Sorry to hear cItalopram didn't work for you sad hopefully these now ones will b much better for you! I can't say it's working wonders, but I think it's def taking the edge off. I'm still on 10mg though...

X x

KinkyDoritoWithJingleBellsOn Tue 27-Nov-12 17:08:19

Has anyone gone over 20mg? I am feeling very tired and fed up, and still a bit anxious. I'm supposed to be back in work next week, which I'm not sure I can cope with. However, being at home all the time is sending me into a huge funk. I don't know whether I need a higher dose.

YommyMommy Tue 27-Nov-12 18:30:46

Hi kinky,

I think people can go right up to 40mg.

I find work is a bit of a distraction! It's saves me from sitting at home dwelling on things! X x

Arcadia Tue 27-Nov-12 18:34:44

Kinky I have looked back at your former posts and you've only been taking them for two and a half weeks, haven't you? If so maybe give it a bit longer before going up, as it can take six weeks to take effect. I know it is hard waiting though. I just want to feel better NOW!

KinkyDoritoWithJingleBellsOn Tue 27-Nov-12 19:52:16

Thanks Arcadia - it feels like I've been taking them a long time! I'm quite low today though.

Yommy work is the major contributing factor to how I am at the moment, and I know it will be stressful going back. However, I know another week, or even month, off won't change that. Sigh. I know what you mean about it being a distraction - it really is - but it will also bring a lot of worry/difficulty too.

thanks both of you - I do appreciate the replies. smile

YommyMommy Tue 27-Nov-12 20:51:37

I can totally understand that kinky!! Anxiety is a real bastard at times...but only way to get over it is to face it. angry

My mood has been quite low today too, but has picked up this evening. Def being at home with my boys and realising how blessed I am grin

Was also wondering of AD's has made anyone else skin spotty?? Hmmm?? I'm beginning to feel like a teenager again blush

Hope everyone is having a nice evening! X x

Morning all, having been on them twice now, both times they have taken 6 weeks before I felt better. So much better that yesterday I cleared out some kitchen cupboards! Instead of sitting on my arse all afternoon. So I too would recommend you take them for longer Brices, you will also find any side effects you had will lessen (mine were stiff jaw, tiredness, night waking, clenched hands). Am still night waking but just once and going back off quickly.

Hi YM, no spots here but ai know it can be a 'time of life' thing but apologies if you are not of that age!

CuriousMama Wed 28-Nov-12 08:35:37

Morning all,

Well I've been up since 4am. I visited exmil yesterday, she's in a hospital supposedly for respite hmm but it's awful. She's stuck in a booth area and it's so noisy. She has a tv which is one good thing and ds1 gave her his headphones because the wire on them was very long so could reach the tv ok. Her neighbour complains about noise so can't blame her now. It's really upset me seeing her in there. She's still very with it, no sign of dementia. Her son, exdh is in the USA on holiday until the 5th. Her other son is totally shite. Only there when in need of cash. Can't visit as he has a deadline angry I just wish she lived near to me I'd be there all the time.
I've had a look at care homes near to her. I found one that looks nice so will tell her about it. She didn't fancy the idea of it but now she's in that place she may rethink? At least she'll be nursed. Plus she'd have her own room. She has money in the bank and her own home so can pick and choose really. The 'd's who never visits will panic if she does go in one though.

So that was my day yesterday. I hope everyone else has a decent day. Kinky give them a bit longer or maybe ask your GP to ring you or get in to see them? Hows your dd doing? A friend of mine was on 60mg! She's a big girl though not sure if that had anything to do with it?

Take care all.

CuriousMama Wed 28-Nov-12 08:37:36

Oh and YM funny you should mention spots. I've got them too? I have AF at the moment but I don't usually get so many spots, maybe one or two? Very strange.

YommyMommy Wed 28-Nov-12 09:05:18

Morning ladies,

Well another day another dollar! I am so tired these past few days, it's driving me nuts. I'm going to give the meds to week 6 and hopefully I'll notice a big difference.

Interesting you should mention weight and does as I asked CPN about staying at 10...she said she thought 20 would b better but as I am quite small 10 might b okay so maybe if the person is larger a bigger dose might b required. Although I read that 60 is not been proven to have any more affect than 40.

Sorry to hear about XMil curious. She obviously means a lot to you! She's lucky to have you around as her DS sound like a nightmare angry I hope my DS's don't turn out that way!

X x

YommyMommy Wed 28-Nov-12 09:07:00

Second hand,

I will b at week six next week so I really hope the tiredness lessens. I think this is the worst side effect! X x

CuriousMama Wed 28-Nov-12 14:21:39

Sorry you're so tired YM. What sort of snacks do you have? Have you tried energy boosting foods? If you get a chance to have a child free day why not just rest all day? I'm an expert at that grin

Dp's making bread now, he said he wants to join our club. I've got loads to do as have friends over for a meal tomorrow night and have tidying to do. I just need to get motivated.

CuriousMama Wed 28-Nov-12 14:22:33

Brices I hope your new meds work?

YommyMommy Wed 28-Nov-12 16:38:33

Hi curious, do you know after all my moaning I haven't been as tired today, lol!! I had a course with work this afternoon so I'm home already grin

Although i'm not so pleased to report that I have an ikey tummy! sad lol!! X x

Just back from the doc, she has given my prescriptions for the next 6 months. She said the tiredness is the last symptom to lift but apart from that she was really pleased with me. She did one of those depression score things and I did much better. She thinks my feelings of detachment might be to do with my low self esteem.

YommyMommy Wed 28-Nov-12 18:01:47

That's all sounding really positive second smile that's good you have 6 month prescription!! No more traipsing back and forth! grin x x

MissPricklePants Wed 28-Nov-12 20:15:37

day 14 for me! absolutely shattered (I have anaemia and pernicious anaemia!) and have been rather absent minded/forgetful the past few days! driving me mad!!!! I have to make an appointment for next week as a follow up and then see if I'm on the correct dosage. Hope everyone is doing ok.

Arcadia Wed 28-Nov-12 20:22:33

Tiredness here too, feel shattered all the time. No spots yet though, hope they don't arrive for Christmas party season! Weird sleep too now waking up suddenly in night and having really strange dreams. This drug better be worth all of this!

cantfindamnnickname Wed 28-Nov-12 20:25:10

Hi all - I just wanted to see what your experiences of citroplam were - the GP has suggested i take them altho Im not sure about the side effects.

olympicvibes Wed 28-Nov-12 20:26:39

Hi everyone. I hope you dont mind but just read your messages and can't tell you how helpful it has been. I have suffered with depression, pa's & anxiety on and off over the past 20 years so i understand some of the struggles. Ive been ok for 6 years but suspected my dp wasn't well but he refused to get help at all.
Im 5 months preg now and he's been
showing signs of depression-seeming switched off and distant. I have been sick for most of pg and off work 2 months. He has had to look after his father who was diag with paranoid depressipn in march
Then me and now he is ill. He finaly went to doctors yday and was diagnosed with depression and anxiety. He is on citalopram( 10 mg). I think talking about it all is so important. I wish he could or had similar .mn thing because i recognise so much of how he sys he feels on here. He said after first tab today that.he had clenchy teeth but felt bit more able to go to work.
Going to get multivits for him plus good diet and walking together. He is awaiting counselling. I feel guilty too-been v difficult hugely stressful Thanks for listening and hope u are all getting there. I really understand how panic attacks and anxiety work and think its fantastic that you do support each other on here xx

olympicvibes Wed 28-Nov-12 20:29:47

And again i dont want to offend anyone or upset anyone because its not me its my dp, so sorry if not appropriate x

CuriousMama Wed 28-Nov-12 22:27:15

Hi all, olympicvibes welcome and no it's not inappropriate at all smile I really hope they help your dp.

My day's been ok. Dp's been cooking made lush bread and minestrone soup. We went to rent Breaking Dawn 1 and watched that tonight.I wanted to see it before BD2. I've heard that one is better? 1 was ok though just a bit long winded and the music was a bit much.

My chest hasn't been so bad. Cardiac people rang but I was napping,dp said they'll ring back. Seems quick?

My GP will only ever give me 1 month at a time she said they don't give more than that? Would be great to get 6 months and cheaper.

slatternlymother Wed 28-Nov-12 22:31:59

I had it for PND. I think it saved my life. I started my recovery within days. I will be forever grateful xx

olympicvibes Wed 28-Nov-12 22:57:33

Thank you curious and good things ok today for you. Btw was really amazed to read how you felt about going to durham cathedral. It is my favourite building in the world-has the most calming effect on me and always has done whenever ive been having a tough time x

CuriousMama Thu 29-Nov-12 00:46:41

Glad to hear it helped you slatternlymother.

olympicvibes, Durham cathedral is amazing, even more so if you go when the choir are singing smile Dp and I are planning another overnight stay there soon. We stayed at the Premier last time for £29, a bargain! Plus it means we get more time in Durham. It's not far from home though but we still like to stay over.

YommyMommy Thu 29-Nov-12 08:58:50

Morning ladies,

Welcome new comers grin Olympic no offended at all, glad the thread has helped!

I'm so glad this is my last day at work grin we are going to the Christmas light switch on tonight in town. My boys are actually switching on the lights as its my work that deals with that :D I think I'm more excited than them, lol!!

I hope everyone had a nice day! X x

YommyMommy Thu 29-Nov-12 08:59:34

Curious can't wait to hear what culinary delights are on offer today in ur house grin

X x

CuriousMama Thu 29-Nov-12 15:31:14

Ooo YM how exciting for your dss. smile

I've had a decent day today. Been to glass painting and did a Christmas tree and snowflakes on a tall triangular glass bottle that I had in the house. I did freehand but the others used stencils. I couldn't have got a stencil in it. Quite surprised how well it turned out really as have only ever done it once before. I could really get into it. I fancy doing a patchwork pattern next time as saw one in a book and that looks very easy. The food of the day is homemade french onion soup and homemade bread from Dp. I've made Thai curry for tonight as friends are coming over.

Still having chest tightness but it could be anxiety?

I hope everyone else is ok?

Well, another good day, in fact I feel 'normal' and not like I should be on this thread at all now! Which I know is great. i would just like to say to everyone that you have to give the tablets 6 weeks to work properly and at least 5 weeks for your side effects to wear off. I feel so much better and am looking forward to an organised Christmas this year. My thoughts are so much clearer.

I am going to sign off this thread for now but please message me if anyone needs advice.

YommyMommy Thu 29-Nov-12 21:25:15

Glad to hear ur doing so well second!! grin you'll b missed x x

Arcadia Fri 30-Nov-12 09:37:07

That's great second thanks for your posts! On day 12 here and think I am starting to feel better, is it possible they can work that fast?

YommyMommy Fri 30-Nov-12 11:01:10

Hi Arcadia,

Some people say they work really quickly for them so I guess it's possible they could b starting to work!

What dose are you on? X x

CuriousMama Fri 30-Nov-12 12:53:44

Bye for now SR see you around and glad you're so well smile

Yes Arcadia they can work quickly. Are you on 20mg yet?

I'm ok today, been to the cliffs with the dog and the sunshine and frost were refreshing.

Got home and hospital app there for rapid access chest pain dept. It's tightness not pain but it is uncomfortable. I went to glass painting yesterday and one person there said her friend's ended up with angina due to anxiety. I really wanted to hear that!!

Hope everyone has a nice day.

Arcadia Fri 30-Nov-12 16:34:16

Hi I am only on 10mg and seeing doctor again week after next - the three week mark. I was actually functioning OK when I went on them, just feeling flat and down, but not terrible, so now wondering if it just passed on it's own and I was too hasty. I'll see what she says.

Are you going up to 20mg at some point YommyMommy?

I was really perky this morning but felt really tired again from lunchtime today. Also haven't got much of an appetite and have lost a bit of weight.

Your walk sounds lovely curious it has been a beautiful crisp winter day, nice change from rain!

CuriousMama Fri 30-Nov-12 17:25:57

Arcadia you could be tired because of your diet? We need a bit more fuel in winter wink Maybe try to eat snacks and what you fancy instead of meals? Nuts and seeds are good for energy as are bananas etc.. I can't eat bananas as recently found I have an allergy to them. Peanut butter's good too.

cantfindamnnickname Fri 30-Nov-12 18:19:34

i have picked my prescription up from Dr's but still undecided as to whether to start them.

But i am very tearful, concentration has gone, cant sleep and im making mistakes at work - i actually felt really out of it today - i went to work but i dont actually know what i did when i was there.
I walked around the shops at lunch time but have no idea what i was looking for.

CuriousMama Fri 30-Nov-12 19:33:39

Cant did you tell your dr your symptoms? Might be worthwhile going back?

Have you read the thread? You'll see there are more positive stories than negative on here so may help you decide? The citalopram shouldn't be worse than what you're experiencing surely? I didn't really get side effects and if you do they soon pass. Sounds like you're struggling to function which isn't a good place to be in. I hope you find something to help you?

cantfindamnnickname Fri 30-Nov-12 19:40:09

the dose is 20mg which seems quite high start. yes I did tell him my symptons - he said he certainly didnt have a problem prescribing them but that it was my decision.
I think i probably should start them - this week alone i have missed parents evening, forgotten a kids event, made a big mistake a work, not actually done most of the work i should have done, burst into tears so many times, not slept, drank every night, i feel very upbeat one minute and very down the next

CuriousMama Fri 30-Nov-12 19:43:08

I always start on 20mg but I've been on and off them a few times over the years.
So sorry to hear this. Are you happy with your GP? Did he mention seeing a psychologist?
I hope you can try to cut down on the booze. What do you drink? Could you add soda to wine? Or lemonade to beer? Make it a long drink? Maybe going on the meds will help you cut down? Better not to drink as I think it can stop them working properly?
You'll get support on here chick keep posting.

CuriousMama Fri 30-Nov-12 19:44:12

By the way how heavy are you if you don't mind me asking? I'm over 12st. I think the mg is decided by this but am not certain? Just my theory smile

reastie Fri 30-Nov-12 19:55:05

Hi all, have found this thread really interesting. I started on citalopram a week ago and have been signed off work this week with anxiety related stuff confused . I'm also similar to xravenx in that I'm very anaemic at the minute (my iron level is 7) which means I'm v tired and it makes it more of a struggle to cope with anxiety.

No massive difference yet since starting to take it but have been working up to full dose slowly as I'm scared of potential side effects. Thanks for a v interesting read.

cantfindamnnickname Fri 30-Nov-12 20:02:52

i weigh 9stone 5 and dropping!
i will cut back on the drink - ~Monday morning i will start back with my exercise and stop drinking during the week, get back to the healthy eating.
GP is good - he has given me a form to self refer to counselling but there is a 6 week waiting list

CuriousMama Fri 30-Nov-12 20:17:18

My theory on the weight is wrong then.
Exercise will help too. I find if I do yoga, dance or walk I get distracted from anxiety.
Am off now to have a quick bath then watch the jungle. Night all.

cantfindamnnickname Fri 30-Nov-12 20:23:31

i went for a run today and did some weights when i got home - it was a welcome distraction
how do they decide what dose to give u then?

CuriousMama Fri 30-Nov-12 21:26:28

No idea how they decide? Maybe depends how poorly you are?

Ended up logging back on to look for a recipe.

YommyMommy Sat 01-Dec-12 13:43:53

Hi lovely ladies,

How are you all today?? I'm having a fairly good day.

I have a sore back as when I was lifting my little one into the bath yesterday morning I twisted it and it was really's not to bad today, just more annoying than anything!!

Welcome new ladies!! Can't I don't think drinking helps at all due to it being a mood suppressant. I def try n cut it out for s while at least.

Beastie I find it very interesting about ur anaemia. I was rushed in a few weeks ago with HG of 5.9 and was given 4 pints of blood. I had put all the symptoms of anaemia down to anxiety hmm anyway since then I have been so up and down. I think I am evening out not...fingers crossed!

Curious, what did you think of the jungle last night??? So was not expecting David to go shock who do you think will win?? I'm not a massive fan of Charlie so I'm hoping for Ashley! I think I will have to record it as we are heading to the city tonight to see their christmas lights n maybe have a wee ice skate on the out door rink grin

Hope you all have a lovely Saturday! X x

reastie Sat 01-Dec-12 18:11:50

YM that's really interesting re: anaemia. Do you think the anaemia make anxiety worse as we're more tired etc all the time so it's harder to cope?

Can I ask you all on citalpram what pain killers you use when needed? My side effects leaflet says don't take aspirin or nurofen (nurofen is by far my drug of choice!). I don't like codeine based pain killers as they upset my tummy and make me really dizzy and peculiar and paracetamol doesn't work at all with me so I may as well take nothing if I take it. I get alot of really bad period pain regularly with a copper coil and, a week in to citalopram and a period coming up soon, I'm worried about what I will and can take confused

CuriousMama Sat 01-Dec-12 20:25:10

Hi all,

I've had a decent enough day.

DS2 went to the local outdoor ice rink but it was tiny so he and his friends didn't bother. Got one staying over tonight and we'll all be watching jungle final with our popcorn grin I was a bit shocked last night, glad it'll be a queen though. I'd prefer Ashley to win she's fab, great role model for girls imo.

Interesting about aspirin as my GP has prescribed them until I hopefully get the all clear about my heart. I did think to query her but didn't bother as they're low dosage. I told her not to give me a prescription as have them at home, seen as I pay for prescriptions.

YM I hope your back's better soon? Glad you're feeling ok though.

Chat soon.

YommyMommy Sat 01-Dec-12 21:23:18

Hi ladies,

I have had an amazing night with my boys in the city. We went to see the lights and there is a little fair there. I went on the helter skelter with my littlest one grin it was great fun. It's a big achievement for me as I usually avoid cities and busy places smile

Beastie the symptoms for anaemia are the same as anxiety so I def think it makes the anxiety worse! hmm

Well I'm in bed already waiting for jungle coming on. Ashley to win grin

Only 3 more sleeps til my hubby gets home! Yipeeee!

Hope everyone is enjoying their Saturday night! X x

CuriousMama Sat 01-Dec-12 21:35:34

Glad you had a good night YM.

I'm in the living room with ds2 and his friend. They've had pizza and am doing popcorn soon. Carb fest!! Only an hour to go and there'll be a new Queen grin

Enjoy the rest of your night. Hope everyone is well?

KinkyDoritoWithJingleBellsOn Sun 02-Dec-12 15:48:22

Hoping everyone is doing okay?

I am soooo tired. I am 3 weeks tomorrow, and I recall others on here saying they felt tired? Am also up and down in my mood. Not sure about anxiety, but have a crisis situation to face next week so that will really show me how I am coping.


YommyMommy Sun 02-Dec-12 17:56:23

Hi Kinky,

I'm on week 5 now and I did feel really tired the first few weeks but that's definitely better and I am also sleeping better now so that's obviously helping too!

My mood is still a bit up and down, but more up than down these days. Unless I start over thinking things confused I'm trying to do less of that too!

I've had a nice day today. Took my boys swimming this morning with a friend and her LO then DS1 has his footy end of season party. They are both running around dancing ATM, but trying to get them to calm down a little.

I'm looking forward to bed time tonight, but will b missing the jungle hmm lol! Just as well I still have Heston to watch from through the week grin

Hope everyone else is having a good day! X x

reastie Sun 02-Dec-12 18:16:12

So glad to hear people were tired when they went on it - I'm propping my eyes open with matchsticks right now having been out with DH and DD today. I haven't been sleeping at all well the past few nights - been awake for about 3 hours in the early hours unable to get back to sleep and DD been waking several times at night which isn't helping, so it could just be that I guess hmm

YommyMommy Sun 02-Dec-12 19:01:32 sorry i've been calling you beastie the last few nights, lol! Please forgive me flowers

Yeah I think they def make you more tired the first few weeks, but the not sleeping wont b helping. What age is ur DD??

X x

reastie Sun 02-Dec-12 19:36:53

21 months

reastie Sun 02-Dec-12 19:37:28

oh, and no worries about the beastie wink I'm sure DH would say that would be more accurate for me

CuriousMama Sun 02-Dec-12 19:38:06

Did you mean thanks for reastie? wink

Hi all, not had a bad day. Ds2 had a friend over to stay so haven't seen much of him. They watched the jungle with me last night. Shame Ashley didn't win, think Kiki clinched it for Charlie. She's nice too though. X factor results tonight but aren't that bothered tbh. I've got A child's Christmases in Wales on at the moment, it's quite funny set in the 80s smile

Kinky sorry to hear you've got something stressful coming up. How's your dd? I hope it isn't to do with her? x

Take care everyone.

Arcadia Sun 02-Dec-12 19:57:35

Hi all feeling Christmassy wink because we've been out for a Christmas festival which involved nativity play with real donkey, lots of market stalls and food stalls, Father Christmas coming along on a sledge thing, Carol singing, fireworks, lights going on etc. also had a big roast lunch before going there, cooked by my mum, so a very cosy day and DD loved it (but overtired so massive tantrum when got home!].

The TIREDNESS it is a killer, isn't it. About 2pm every day it is hitting me like a wave and hangs around til about 7pm, seems better if I am out and about though. I never actually get a chance to sleep or rest in the afternoon but suspect that would make me feel worse. It's like pregnancy tiredness. Am also losing weight because not much appetite so have been making the most of eating whatever I fancy this weekend!

reastie I'm having to get up with my DD too as she is really coldly and coughing a lot in the night etc. so probably not helping. All kids seem to have something at the moment.

Hope everyone has a good week.

YommyMommy Sun 02-Dec-12 20:49:29

Yeah that's what I meant curious, lol! I am limited to what I can do on my phone!! Haha! How has it chest been today?

Arcadia the festival sounds lovely!! That's some celebration! We are hoping to go through to my sisters next weekend (Edinburgh) to see their Christmas things grin

X x

CuriousMama Sun 02-Dec-12 21:02:06

Chest's not been so bad thanks. Sorry couldn't resist with the flowers grin

Arcadia that sounds fantastic. I used to love stuff like that when dcs were little. They liked going on the Santa steam trains and also to Beamish open air museum to see Santa, it's so festive there. DS2 is 12 but still has the Christmas spirit. I'll have to take him somewhere, maybe our hometown as they have things going on?

I wish my appetite would go a bit, it's gone crazy tonight. I'll have to do some exercise tomorrow to work it off wink

YommyMommy Sun 02-Dec-12 21:15:45

I've had a very hungry day today too curious shock x x

CuriousMama Sun 02-Dec-12 21:22:34

I was doing so well but went to the shop for choccy for dss and bought myself a big bar of turkish delight and monster munch all gone blush

Arcadia Sun 02-Dec-12 21:46:42

I only have an appetite for crap food at the moment, normally I am really healthy!

I used to be a bit 'meh' about Christmas in my teens onwards, but now totally love it with a LO, my DD has been signing 'little donkey' over and over, and I remember singing it at playgroup.

CuriousMama Sun 02-Dec-12 23:31:58

Aww how cute Arcadia smile We didn't have playgroup in the dark ages wink

Morning, quick positive update. Week 8 on 20mg. Sleeping fine and no other side effects now except maybe dry mouth. Head clearer, memory better and Christmas organisation well under way.

If you are in any doubt whether these tablets can help, the answer is yes. I feel mentally stronger, I have stopped eating rubbish. So much happier.

Onwards and upwards. Xx

YommyMommy Mon 03-Dec-12 09:06:05

So glad to hear it second rose grin

X x

xRavenx Mon 03-Dec-12 18:38:37

Quick update from me

3 weeks 3 days in

I think these pills are working smile smile

For the last week or just less, I've been feeling better...not back to how I used to be, but better. Not weepy, not feeling hopeless any more. In fact feel good right this very moment

I was so worried about starting them....and I'm so glad I put that aside and took them grin They work!, and with no horrid side effects

Still very tired all the time

Doctors tomorrow evening. I forgot to take one dose a few days ago, so have enough pills to last till tomorrow now and didn't need to get a repreat prescription

Hope everyone has a good week. 7 days of lectures left, then it's time for christmas holidays grin woop woop!!

YommyMommy Mon 03-Dec-12 19:38:21

Hi raven, do glad to hear ur feeling much better. grin

I think the tiredness is the last side effect to go but it does wear off. I'm at week 5 plus 3 days and the tiredness in no where near as bad as it was! grin

Hi everyone else! Hope ur all having a good day! I've had a good day this end. Was even singing Christmas songs while washing the dishes tonight.

My boys are acting like little monkeys tonight so I'm counting down the minutes til bed time! 7pm smile

X x

reastie Mon 03-Dec-12 19:48:09

It's so nice to hear so many positive stories on this.

I saw something upthread about taking them in the morning - is there a reason behind this? My GP didn't specify and so I've been taking them last thing at night, my logic being I still bf DD once in the evening so if i take it after I bf her there will be a lower concentration in the milk than if it's nearly 24 hours since I last had it (although this could be flawed ridiculous logic!)

YommyMommy Mon 03-Dec-12 20:13:16

Hey reastie,

I don't think it really matters what time you take it. Some say it makes them do tired the can only take them at night, others say they affect ur sleep so take them in the morning. I guess it probs just depends on the person. My GP never mentioned at time to take them either, but morning works for me and nighttime works for you grin x x

YommyMommy Tue 04-Dec-12 13:51:02

This ladies,

How is everyone??

I'm good. It's having intrusive thoughts, but they are definitely getting less and I'm feeling more and more calm with each passing day! grin

I'm feeling a bit sick today...hmm hope it's nothing working on me!! Maybe I'm coming out in sympathy with Kate wink poor girl! I really feel for her I had 9 months of sickness with both my boys! Yuk!!

Hope everyone else is well! X x

KinkyDoritoWithJingleBellsOn Tue 04-Dec-12 15:38:34

Feeling sad and a bit meh today sad. Week 3, day 2. I'm very up and down, and very tired. I keep waking up really early too. I've had a nasty head cold, so that hasn't helped. I thought dry mouth was from the cold! I am really, really trying not to give in to cravings for crap as I put on 2st when given prozac and I've only recently lost it (still another couple to go blush).

It's nice to read that others are feeling a lot better on the tablets.

Curious DD is okay, thanks. My stress is meeting at work.

Yommy I get the odd wave of strong nausea and then I'm fine. It's very weird.

thanks for all.

YommyMommy Tue 04-Dec-12 16:22:37

Hi kinky,

Sorry to hear your having an off day! The tablets will work I'm sure, but I def think it takes 5/6 weeks for them to kick in properly!

I also had days where I just felt sad... But they are less and less now! Thankfully! X x

KinkyDoritoWithJingleBellsOn Tue 04-Dec-12 17:03:19

Thanks Yommy thanks smile

Quick update, fabulous day - got loads done! Just started week 9. Did wake up early about 4am and decided it if was 6am I would get up but oops it was way earlier. I did manage to get back to sleep though.

CuriousMama Tue 04-Dec-12 21:20:14

Hi all, good day here for me. Been to the cinema tonight to see Pitch Perfect and bonus it was free through Seefilmfirst. Usually the tickets aren't local to me but these were and it was fricking hilarious grin Plus fantastic singing. I'd really recommend it.

Sorry to hear about your meeting Kinky hope it goes ok for you. Glad to hear your dd's ok though.

YommyMommy Wed 05-Dec-12 08:36:41

Morning lovelies,

I'm sitting in my GP surger before I go to work. Just a check in, but I think she's already running late confused I'm feeling very nervous for some strange reason, lol!

I'm thinking she'll want to review my meds, but I'm hoping to stay at 10 as I feel I'm managing on them and they have made a big difference to what I felt 5/6 weeks ago! smile

Curious is that a new film? I haven't heard of it...although I'm not even sure what's on in the cinema these days! Lol!

Kinky, when is ur work meeting? Try not to get yourself too up tight about it and remember you would feel worried/anxious about this in normal circumstances, but the fact that you have anxiety is making it seem 100 times worse! hmm

Second so glad to hear you are still doing so well! grin

Hope everyone has a good day! X x

CuriousMama Wed 05-Dec-12 11:22:57

Morning all,

I hope your check up went ok YM?

yes it's a new movie it's out on 21st. Really uplifting smile

Good news for me today. I went to hospital check up and nurse said my heart seems fine and it's most likely gastric, probably anxiety linked? Did you know most of our serotonin is found in specialised cells in our gut? I knew stomach problems and stress can be linked but didn't realise just how much. All makes so much sense. That's probably why citalopram helps IBS?

So I feel pretty happy today. Got the WI meeting tonight, it was that which triggered all this last month so will be a good test. I went to glass painting in there last week and was fine though. Pills are certainly helping me.

Have good day everyone.

CuriousMama Wed 05-Dec-12 11:26:38
KinkyDoritoWithJingleBellsOn Wed 05-Dec-12 12:36:54

Really interesting article Curious. I could see so much of me in that.

Yommy How was doctor? You sound very positive overall.

YommyMommy Wed 05-Dec-12 13:47:08

Hi ladies,

Very interesting curious and makes Sense!

Got on well at docs...managed not to cry, lol grin I'm staying on 10 for time is happy with progress, but said not to b worried if I still have down days as its just the way recovery works!

X x

YommyMommy Wed 05-Dec-12 14:59:55

P.s. so glad to hear ur appointment went well curious! That will b a relief grin x x

CuriousMama Wed 05-Dec-12 16:33:46

Glad you're appointment went well YM.

DSD is coming over tonight, she's living in Bristol now and works as a radiographer. Dp hasn't seen her for months so they're spending a few hours together in Durham then she's coming here for her birthday cake and a hug smile She's 25 soon and just lovely. It's snowing heavily though so I hope that doesn't change things but if so I'll be for the best safety wise.

DS2 is out in the snow with his friends. He'll come in shivering like a leaf in the wind.

Exmil sent me a blank text, she never texts. I rang her and she sounded so confused asking where exdh is? He's on his way home now so should be at the hospital now or soon? I rang the nurse who didn't seem to know much. I got exdh to ring and the dr needs to see him. She should never have been left sad

Have a good evening all.

Arcadia Wed 05-Dec-12 21:48:53

Hi all glad everyone is doing well!

Sorry to hear about your exmil, curious, sounds like a stressful situation. Hope she's OK.

Sorry don't have much time to post but I always read the thread!

Have just passed the two week mark and less nauseous now, slightly less tired, and am sleeping well.

Had a stressful incident at work on Monday and just thought glad I am on the pills. I think I have coped with it better than I would have before.

The pills do seem to be helping me to feel more positive smile

CuriousMama Wed 05-Dec-12 22:43:05

That's great news Arcadia glad the pills are helping smile

Exdh has been in to see his mum. Looks like it won't be long for her. He spoke to the dr for a long time. So sad. Dss will be devastated too, especially ds1 he adores his gran sad They've told her she won't make Christmas as she isn't eating. I don't see the point of telling her it's just upset her?

I'm also glad to be back on the pills especially with all this going on.

Arcadia Thu 06-Dec-12 08:23:21

sorry to hear that Curious that is a really difficult thing to cope with especially with Christmas coming up. Do your DSs know?

CuriousMama Thu 06-Dec-12 08:33:56

Thanks Arcadia had more bad news yesterday regarding a friend I won't go into that though as I've been miserable enough.

Ds1 knows, ds2 not really yet. DS1 is very very close to gran though and it'll be hitting him hard. We talk about it. He's very upset she was left. I really dread him seeing exbil he's been appalling.

How are you all coping with the weather? It's really icy here luckily I don't have to go far today. I feel for the elderly in this weather. I'll check on my neighbours today see if they're ok?

YommyMommy Thu 06-Dec-12 09:01:39

Morning ladies,

Curious I'm so sorry to heard about ur exmil sad a very distressing situation for you all! Sending big hugs down for you and dss x x

Arcadia, as glad to hear you are feeling better too!

I'm having a bit of a flat day today. Last day at work and the weather is horrible - heavy rain and wind - looking forward to getting home and cuddling with my boys smile x x

CuriousMama Thu 06-Dec-12 09:07:25

Morning YM thanks for the hugs xx

Just think it's your last day at work, all weekend to snuggle up with dss. smile I hope it goes fast for you?

YommyMommy Thu 06-Dec-12 09:25:39

Me too curious.

We are all heading through to my sister (she live in Edinburgh) on Saturday night and taking the boys into town to see the Christmas things grin I'm really looking forward to it.

X x

CuriousMama Thu 06-Dec-12 09:36:39

That sounds fantastic, Edinburgh is my favourite city and especially at Christmas time. Will you go on the big wheel and ice skating? I wish we were all going. I'd love us all to go at this time of year.

YommyMommy Thu 06-Dec-12 10:30:10

Possible ice skating if it's not too busy, but I won't do the big wheel! Don't like heights confusedlol!

How did you get on at WI last night?? Are you going dancing tonight? X x

CuriousMama Thu 06-Dec-12 14:31:41

I've done the big wheel with a friend who was scared of heights and she was going mental! Especially when it stopped at the top and was swinging. Two girls were in with us, probably in their 20s, and were messing around. Friend didn't take to kindly to this and it took the fun out of it a bit. She was having a panic attack though but still was a shame.

I didn't go to the WI as was waiting for dp and dsd to come over. I rang them and said if it was too risky (weather-wise) then to take her to her mums. Dsd is almost 26 so I just said ask her what she thinks? Dp was very tired too and ended up nodding off in her mums. He gets on well with his exdw so she didn't mind smile So sadly I didn't see her but we're going to skype. DS2 will love that.

I'm not dancing tonight as dp's working,he's off Saturday and Sunday night but we'll probably stay in? What plans do you have?

I hope everyone else is doing well and staying safe on the ice? I've just been out with pooch and it's treacherous.

KinkyDoritoWithJingleBellsOn Fri 07-Dec-12 09:49:05

Head feels like it is full of fluff today. I was really starting to settle down, but I've been in a bit of a funk over the past couple of days and I feel very tired and out of it.

Do the people further on still get like this?

Curious I hope everything is settled and okay with exmil. Sending love to your family.

YommyMommy Fri 07-Dec-12 10:10:45

Morning kinky,

Sorry ur having a crappy day hmm I felt a bit off Wednesday and Thursday, but back on track today grin my CPN told me not to expect to just keep feeling better every day you will feel up and down!

Hope it improves as day goes on...big hugs!!

Morning all other lovely ladies! X x

CuriousMama Fri 07-Dec-12 14:10:19

Afternoon all,

Kinky you can have days like that. Where are you in relation to your period? I find hormones affect me. Are you eating ok? Energy boosting snacks may help? Doing Yoga or some form of exercise helps too imo.

Glad you're back on track YM.

I'm ok today. Had porridge for breakfast that always gives me a good start. Plus it fills me up and I don't snack. Hope to lose 2 stone in weight by next spring. But it's not a priority.

Have a great Friday everyone. Hope you feel better soon Kinky.

Arcadia Fri 07-Dec-12 17:15:03

Hi all I have had a rubbish day and a rubbish week, really. Work has been horrible due to work politics which I am trying to stay out of but people keep bitching about each other to me whatever I do, and feels like it is all going to kick off before Christmas. Was looking forward to my day with DD today but she has been in the most terrible mood and tantruming and crying about EVERYTHING - whingeyist child ever today!
Also I had my first bad nights sleep since being on the pills last night sad had hideous nightmares when I did sleep and woke up feeling really worn down and vulnerable.
Had thought that I was going to be 'cured' so a bit unrealistic, maybe I'll recover quicker this time.
Not really looking forward to the weekend as hard to keep finding things to do over winter.
Also having disagreements over Christmas plans as DP doesn't want to spend much time with my family which is difficult, and to be fair they have really pissed me off the last two years so he is being protective rather than just difficult!
DP not home til after six on a Friday and DD just fell asleep in her buggy so on top of everything else will have trouble getting her down to bed tonight, as I Cannot wake her!

Oh well just needed my whinge. Sorry.

Sorry you've had a bad couple of days too kinky but I suppose we need to expect some ups and downs, like yommymommy was told.

Hope all is well with your family curious.

Have a good weekend everyone!

CuriousMama Fri 07-Dec-12 18:19:35

Oh dear Arcadia sorry to hear this. Work stress is awful. I heard a good word today, bolotics grin About sums it up. A friend said it about some organisation we both know, has stupid people running it. All bolotics. Is there anyone in charge you can go to? Sounds like they could do with some mediation?

I'd just do what feels right for Christmas. Not what anyone else thinks is right. You, your dp and your dcs are your family now.

I'm waiting to hear about MIL, can't get in touch with exdh? He could be just busy though? He's supposed to be picking boys up tonight?

Take care chat soon.

Arcadia Fri 07-Dec-12 20:14:19

Thanks curious, have thought about going to management but could backfire, not sure how much to trust them. Will see what happens next week. The good thing is, I love my actual job - when people leave me alone do I can get down to it! I am lucky to have a job that I enjoy so much (and to work three days a week!).

Like bolotics, think I will drop into conversation grin

Re christmas I think we will see how one day with them goes and then we can decide from there.

Feeling a bit better now DD in bed and DP is making my dinner.

Hope you get an update re your MIL. So you will be in for a nice peaceful weekend then if the boys are going away?

YommyMommy Fri 07-Dec-12 21:00:32

Hi ladies,

Sorry to hear about ur work situation Arcadia...i've always worked in a male dominated environment so there is no where near as much bitching smile men just tell each other to their faces grin much more fun, lol!

Funny about ur DD as my youngest DS has also had a very moany day today...he is often just worn out come Friday with being at nursery all week.

Curious did exh come for the boys?

I've had a nice day today. Was out shopping all day with my mum n got a few more Christmas pieces grin then took my boys swimming. DS1 had karate between 6.70 n 7.30 then home n organised for bed. DH has gone out with some friends for a drink so tv and bed to myself until he rolls in drunks n snores all night shock

Hope you are all having a nice night x x

CuriousMama Sat 08-Dec-12 00:45:46

Arcadia could you send them an anonymous note? Post it from out of work? Say you work there but you are afraid of the consequences?
Am glad your dh cooked for you smile

YM exdh didn't come tonight as he said he'll be at hospital most of tomorrow. I told ds2 how bad it is and he was so upset sad

I've just booked a night in Durham for dp and I in January. One of those £29 premier inn nights. We did this the other month and it was lovely, had the breakfast there too which was lush. Met a lovely drunk near the market place who told dp to marry me grin No idea why he said it?
Anyway it's something to look forward to. Dp loves going too.

chat soon.

Arcadia Sat 08-Dec-12 14:43:45

Hello all. Hope your DH didn't disturb you too much, yommymommy, mine does exactly the same!

Curious good to have something to look forward to in January. We leave dd with her grandparents once very few months and DP and I have a 'romantic' weekend away, nearest nice place for us is the Cotswolds so prices are shock!

I did think about some kind if anonymous note, curious but I would be too identifiable because we are a small department. Funny what you said about working with men yommymommy because we are mainly women in our department but the problems are actually being caused by the man in our department ... Who is very 'in favour' with our female boss, shall we say.

Oh well it is the weekend and all fine so far! I had a nice lie and and quiet morning as DP took DD out. DD sleeping now, because we are going into town for an early dinner then a carol service this evening, then I am going on to the pub for friends' birthday and DP bring DD back home to bed, so should be good evening. Will miss the killing tho! sad

Not sure whether these pills are really working or not. I am feeling a bit less cynical and a bit brighter, but feel quite anxious today, and my underlying anxious feeling doesn't seem to have shifted. I thought I would feel steadily better but after an initial 'lift' I seem to have flattened out hmm

Back to the GP on Tuesday so will be interesting to see what she says.

Have a good weekend everyone!

CuriousMama Sat 08-Dec-12 22:30:42

Have a great night Arcadia it's good to catch up with friends smile

Arcadia Sun 09-Dec-12 20:29:19

Sorry, feel like I've killed this thread! How were people's weekends?

YommyMommy Sun 09-Dec-12 20:37:37

Don't b silly kinda goes quiet at at the weekends...I hope that's because everyone is out having fun grin

How was ur night out with friends? How have you been feeling?

I've had a great weekend, it's been so busy and I'm shattered today, but that's life! We went to Edinburgh n see the markets n had boys to the fair. It's was nice, but very very busy. Had to watch boys like a hawk as the could have gotten lost in a second. I even enjoyed a few glasses of red once back at my sister grin

Today I have put up my tree and watched Elf. We bought a real tree at the garden centre this morning and it's really beautiful...I love it! I had the girl pull out every tree until I decided on the second one she pulled out, lol! I'm glad I did as its perfect smile

Back to the grind tomorrow hmm it's a thought, but I have two weeks off over Christmas so it's not too far off grin

How has ur weekend been curious? Is ur tree up?

Hi to anyone else lurking smile x x

CuriousMama Sun 09-Dec-12 22:23:20

Evening all,
Tree isn't up yet but it's bought. Dp and I will put it up in the morning once we're back from shopping. I've got Christmas gifts to pick up and food shop to do.

I managed to finish a painting today to put in my bathroom. I had a sea scene in and fancied a moonlight scene. It's on my profile under my photos if you want to see? It's on a large canvas and it's acrylics.

Exmil's managing to eat a bit but they said she won't leave her bed now. And are putting her on the end of life pathway midweek. DS1 is going tomorrow night for a visit, I'll stay home with ds2.

Glad to hear Edinburgh was good YM. Hope your night was Arcadia?

Hi all, been trying to support someone else on another thread. Sad reading and I hope she gets some help. Click on my profile to find it and please post there too if you can offer any words of support.

I am OK today, just had a ridiculous conversation with my mother. She was telling me that her friends 50 year old daughter is taking AD's. I told her you do know I take them too dont you?! Oh really she said. Are you taking them now? Yes I thought you are (yeah right, she has no idea what so effing ever).

MissPricklePants Mon 10-Dec-12 10:56:36

Bad week last week, lots of negative thoughts and feeling miserable exactly like I did before starting Citalopram. Only thing different was my period so putting it down to that, feeling a little better but me and dd are not well so thats not helping!eurgh!!

YommyMommy Mon 10-Dec-12 12:38:49

Hi Misspicklepants,

Sorry to hear you are having a bad week, but I think periods def dont help and neither will being ill sad What dose are you on?? If you are still feeling the same in a few days go back to GP and speak to them.

hey Second, I had a wee look at the threads you have been posting on. Which one was it you were wanting us to have a look at?? confused

Curious I am really sorry to hear about exmil, hopefully she'll be at peace soon and not suffering too long. I dont mean that to sound horrible, but its not nice to watch people you care for suffering sad Did you manage to get for your shopping this morning??

Arcadia, i hope work is going okay today and there isnt too much trouble.

I'm having another good day. I'm almost scared to say when I having good days incase I jinx myself...does that just sound plain daft?? blush The weather is glourious for us today...massive blue skys and not too cold! I am taking boys to panto tonight. Its a family affair with about 10 of us going so should be a good night.

Hope everyone is well x x

YommyMommy Mon 10-Dec-12 13:23:41

I have eaten so much crap today and it's not ever mid afternoon yet...oink oink winkit's a Christmas thing...right???? grin x x

MissPricklePants Mon 10-Dec-12 16:39:55

I'm on 20mg, will see how I feel by the end of the week and if no improvement I will ask for the dosage altering.

CuriousMama Mon 10-Dec-12 18:36:08

Hi all
Sorry to hear you've not been too good MPP, hope the Gp can help? Hope you and your dd are better soon too x

Exmil is rallying!! She' eating what exdh's taking in and is more chatty smile so both boys are visiting tonight. We thought she was too ill for ds2 to go as he'd end up in tears but she's doing better. Amazing. They still say she won't leave hospital but would be great if she can make her 90th birthday on NYE. She really wanted to make it to then.

I've had a decent day got to the shops and picked up a dress which was only £8 reduced from £20. It's for a masquerade ball. It's animal print and quite light so good to dance in, we do salsa jive so need room to manoeuvre wink I've got the mask too, black and white with feathers on. We're out this Saturday with some friends to a comedy club so looking forward to that, it's a good night usually. Plus going for an Indian meal first so looking forward to that.

I'll have a look at the thread SHR.

CuriousMama Mon 10-Dec-12 18:54:04

Had a look SecondhandRose and nothing I could add to help tbh. I hope she gets the help she needs as it sounds like she's in desperate need sad

YommyMommy Tue 11-Dec-12 19:29:14

Hi lovelies,

How is everyone? I'm having a bit of an off day today in that i've been feeling anxious, but not really sure why. Feeling better now that I'm home with the family smile

Think I'm in for a bit of the cold. Some mouth/throat etc. hope it doesn't come to much. I'm planning an early night with Heston at 9 wink

Hope everyone else is well x x

CuriousMama Tue 11-Dec-12 20:19:04

hiya I'm not too bad thanks.

Tree's up and decorated by ds2 <will tweak when he's in bed> grin

Last tango in Halifax is on soon so am looking forward to that.

YommyMommy Fri 14-Dec-12 16:10:44

Hi ladies,

Where has everyone gone hmm

I've had a few problems with my phone the past few days and hate using the comp ah home as I sit in front of it all day at work, lol!

Hope everyone is well and that's why the thread has gone quiet grin x x

CuriousMama Fri 14-Dec-12 17:10:00

Hi YM all's well with me.

Am off out tomorrow night with some friends and dp to a comedy night. Just got an invite to a Christmas party for tomorrow night too. Bit last minute grin
I would've gone though as it's a friend who goes dancing and he has his own dance floor. His parents won the lotto. Has a pool too. I haven't been to his house yet as haven't known him that long. He's a lovely fella.

Exmil is still with us. Exdh said she's brighter today and got dressed. I hope she can be with us a while longer. It's amazing as they were putting her on the end of life pathway midweek. We're taking the boys to see her tonight and I'll pop in too.

YommyMommy Fri 14-Dec-12 19:05:28

Hi curious,

Glad to hear all is well with you smile and also glad to hear DMIL is keeping better too...fingers crossed she keeps getting brighter! She will enjoy seeing the boys tonight!

We have a child free night tonight, boys are staying at Nanna's tonight. We were going to go to the cinema but its so wet n cold out that we're just going to have film in the house. My anxiety is playing up a little, but I'm due on so hoping that's why!

Hope you have a nice weekend out dancing. Your friends house sounds amazing grin x x

CuriousMama Sat 15-Dec-12 14:46:33

Hi YM,

We're not dancing as he invited us too late. We're out with friends for an Indian meal and comedy night at the town hall as that's been organised for ages.

Exmil has gone right down again. She's very confused and imagining allsorts. Plus not eating. sad She was fast asleep when I went last night.

Enjoy your child free night. Get dh to give you an aromatherapy massage, works wonders for stress and anxiety. Or just oil if you don't have essential oils. Though would be worth a trip out to get some wink

Are you seeing your Exmil soon Curious? Maybe if there were some very light meals made for her, very simple and not heavy, she might be persuaded to eat a little? Like a small salad with finely chopped ingredients which she could eat with a spoon. You can't feel good when you're not eating.

Now I'm finally off it, I see how good citalopram was. It didn't make everything right but got me on an even keel. Just had an emotional week with mini meltdown on Monday and lots of teariness at various times, though yesterday was busy and spent time with a lovely, calm, funny friend in the evening which meant it was a good day (didn't stop me writing a long and desperate email to my poor mum in floods of tears at 11). This morning hung up on my mum as I was such a snotty blubbering mess (parents called back and we had a long talk and I'm much calmer now!). I KNOW it's just because I'm off meds and it's not that I'm getting worse, it's just a crash, but I have to travel on Monday and don't relish the thought of losing it in the middle of London so wish I could take some of the magic pills just on that day....I have five days' worth left.

Onto Prozac next week, oh goody!

CuriousMama Sun 16-Dec-12 20:41:21

quirrelquarrel she's in a room on her own now and they're putting her on a soft diet. She has a swollen arm which could be lymph gland related as she has leukemia? Poor woman, it's awful seeing her suffer. Exdh is cooking whatever she asks for but she doesn't eat it. She has plenty of easy to eat things but can't eat them. Her other son was in the town today handing in some work and chose to go to the football game instead of visiting him mum sad angry Poor exdh is there twice a day. I daren't even speak to the exbil for fear of what I'll say.

I had a great night out, fantastic curry and brill comedy night. Only bad thing was we went to our local pub and I had too much to drink, ended up being sick at home. Poor dp looked after me so well and cooked me a lovely beef dinner today with lush yorkshire puds smile He was drunk too but not as bad as me. blush

I hope the Prozac work well for you quirrelquarrel. Also hope your travel goes smoothly. I get anxious when I travel,awful tightness in my chest.

Sorry have not read any of the above but just thought I would pop in for an update.

Week 11.

Woke up in the night very briefly and went back to sleep quickly.

No other side effects at all now (did have dry mouth and very tight jaw).

Last two days I have felt on top of the world. Best I have felt in 2 years.

Saw a friend and her family yesterday, had a worry that she wouldnt speak to me and the anxiety crept back with what I call a feeling that I am on the outside looking in when I greet people. I pushed it away and she was lovely as she always is.

Looking forward to an organised Christmas.

CuriousMama Tue 18-Dec-12 09:07:36

That's good news SR smile

It's amazing how the weeks fly by.

I'm not so bad today, having sinus problems though. Stopping me sleeping. It's just the time of year to get that though.

Hi CM, Sudafed for sinuses. Hope you feel better soon.

reastie Tue 18-Dec-12 19:12:37

Hi, I've been on this thread a couple of weeks ago when I started citalopram. I have a quick question (as I'm panicking!).

I started citalopram 3 weeks ago but have only taken a normal dose (20mg) for just under a week - the first 2 weeks I was building it up gradually. I've had a headache all day and felt really tired. This evening the headache is awful, despite pain killers. I know headaches can be a side effect, but I thought they would appear soon after starting to take them, not a week or so after. Can anyone help me on whether this might be a side effect? I don't often get headaches, and when I do it's very unusual for it to be this bad. I don't feel ill hmm . One of the reasons I'm on this drug is due to anxieties about illness, which is probably why I sound a bit in need to know!

CuriousMama Tue 18-Dec-12 19:20:03

Thanks SR I'll get some of that.

reastie, yes headaches are normal but ring NHS direct for peace of mind.

reastie Tue 18-Dec-12 19:24:05

I'm not worried enough to ring NHS direct thanks curious , just wondered if other people found they had headaches not straight away hmm . Could be something else like anxiety about having my first proper CBT session tomorrow confused

CuriousMama Tue 18-Dec-12 19:36:03

Oh good luck with the CBT I hope it helps. It'll be the build up of the drug making your head ache no doubt? Are you drinking enough water? I know if I'm dehydrated it can make headaches worse.

reastie Tue 18-Dec-12 19:42:57

I have been drinking like a mad thing curious - there's no way I can be dehydrated! Hope it doesn't last too long...

CuriousMama Tue 18-Dec-12 19:45:35

I hope not too. Good luck tomorrow am sure it'll be fine.

Thanks CM and so sorry to hear about your Exmil, bloody awful situation she's in. Remember you can't be good support unless you take care of yourself it's important to put time aside for yourself smile

For headaches, have you tried having a shower? I know, I know, it sounds awful- getting wet and cold with a heavy head. I used to have headaches almost constantly at my old school, I was so stressed, and heat always helped at least a little. It almost went during a hot shower. Came back but for temporary relief it's good! That's probably a clue as to what kind of headache it was, but I'm no scientist, don't know. Relief from a hot towel on neck points to tension headache, which I'm not sure you'd get from meds?

Otherwise, have you tried keeping off things like bread, milk, cheese, sugar while you have a headache? Also, seems obvious, but lying very quietly with head and spine aligned and relaxed with the light off for an hour or so really helps. With something playing softly in the background, an audiotape is good, to take your mind off the pain- it's amazing how pain grows when you concentrate on it.

HeartOfDixie Wed 19-Dec-12 05:53:17

Hello. I'm new to this thread. It's only day three for me so am very up and down. I was wondering what you guys do when you wake in the night and can't get back to sleep straight away. I lie there with panicky miserable thoughts flying round my head, getting frustrated that I can't sleep. Also any tips for the dry mouth?

I really hate this monster depression but your stories give me hope.

YommyMommy Wed 19-Dec-12 10:26:08

Hi ladies, how is everyone?

I was a real anxious Annie last night but fought it and felt better this morning grin this is my last full day at work before the big man comes...Half day tomorrow and half day on Christmas Eve!

Welcome Dixie and I hope the pilss work for you? I hated not sleeping at the beginning, thankfully it's better now! When I wake up I try not to let the negative thoughts creep in. The CPN told me to get up have a pee n drink then you'll realise ur still tired, also start with 100 and subtract 7, or just simply say the work 'the' over and over. The 7 subtraction usually bores me back to sleep as numbers is my job, lol!!

X x

somewherebecomingrain Wed 19-Dec-12 16:04:21

Hello may i join in?

My story is that i was on fluoxetine, got pregnant with DC2 in August, and came of the fluoxetine. After about 4 months of withdrawal and morning sickness, I had an extraordinary month of happiness. But then my mum got diagnosed with ovarian cancer - luckily an unusual mild type but still not great, they can't cure it.

As we are living with my parents while my DP starts his start-up business it has unleashed a soap opera of epic proportions with my Dad riding us constantly about my DP's un-fruitful (so far) entrepreneurship.

For that happy month I thought: "Hey maybe this is it i can go off the meds". Now i'm thinking can i even make it to the birth without sertraline? (the ssri of choice for pregnant and lactating women).

I can't find any thread for anyone who is suffering med-less while pregnant but this thread looks good - you are mostly mums, you are going on and off meds, you are discussing life on both sides. I've already found useful stuff on here about how to go off meds your life does need to be a bit more sorted.

Maybe I can just chip in with how much i want to be one of you in 3.5 months time, when I'm due and can guiltlessly go on sertraline?

Yommy i've read your story and i'm pleased you are so much better and long may it continue.

curious i am so sorry about your exMIL - i know what you are going through.


CuriousMama Wed 19-Dec-12 16:56:43

Hi Dixie and somewhere and welcome.

I hope the meds work for you Dixie and you manage to start sleeping through? My sleep pattern is all over the place at the moment, hate looking at the clock at 4am knowing i'm up at 7. But I pop back for a nap with dp who works night shift. blush

Somewhere sounds like you have a lot of stress going on. I hope it all settles down soon for you? You need to be as calm as possible at the moment. What's your Gp said about meds?

I'm not too bad today. I got a painting finished, an actual commision! It's a similar one to the moon reflection I did. Also started a painting of gladioli for a friend's birthday present but that's going to take a bit of fiddling with. I may just give up and paint her something else, maybe a rose? Gladioli are difficult!

I hope everyone else is keeping well? YM glad you're work is almost over.

My best friend is over to stay tomorrow night I'm really looking forward to that, it's been ages since I've seen her. We chat on the phone but it'll be great to spend a night chatting smile

HeartOfDixie Thu 20-Dec-12 05:38:20

Hi everyone I need some advice or hope. The side affects area really awful and I was wondering how long they last. I have an extreme dry mouth, dry heaving, hot sweats and can only sleep for an hour at a time. Do you think this is normal?

Arcadia Thu 20-Dec-12 08:27:47

What dose are you on HeartofDixie and how long have you been on them? I started on 10mg then went up to 20mg after a few weeks and the first time I felt a bit tired and sick on and off for a couple of weeks, but going up to 20mg the side effects haven't lasted as long. Sounds like you should speak to your GP though if it continues like that as it must be horrible for you, and broken sleep makes you feel so much worse. Hope you feel better soon x

CuriousMama Thu 20-Dec-12 09:01:19

HOD yes they are normal side effects that may last a week or more? I'd ring your surgery and talk to a GP. Maybe half your tablet (under their guidance).

HeartOfDixie Thu 20-Dec-12 09:13:09

Hi guys, I'm on day 4 with 20mg. I'm also weirdly 'frozen' in that I can't make myself do anything, just lie in bed thinking about how I want a glass of water. Couldnot face getting dressed so rang in sick to work. It's all very disturbing but I will take you advice and call the gp. I think I am going to skip my pill until I have seen them as well.

CuriousMama Thu 20-Dec-12 09:31:12

HOD is this day for of just 20mg, didn't you wean on from 10? I'd have half a tablet if I were you not none at all.

CuriousMama Thu 20-Dec-12 09:32:05

meant to say reason being they can go out of your system quickly so if you're 'topped up' you won't suffer as much. In theory. Good luck.

CuriousMama Thu 20-Dec-12 09:32:41

meant day four (4)

HeartOfDixie Thu 20-Dec-12 09:41:29

That's right I went straight on to 20, think I will do the half thing. It seems lots of people did 10 in the beginning. The doctor I saw was very uninterested and I was only in with her for 5 mins. Although I am rather large so maybe it's a body mass thing. Have got an appointment for 11:45 so we shall see what the docs says. Thank you for being there Curious.

somewherebecomingrain Thu 20-Dec-12 10:47:51

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

somewherebecomingrain Thu 20-Dec-12 10:49:23

Oops wrong thread. Ignore all!

HeartOfDixie Thu 20-Dec-12 12:50:44

Even more confused now as saw the same doctor who prescribed them, told her all my side effects and she says I seem so much better than when she saw me on Monday I should stop taking them altogether. I told her that i thought the improvement was due to the cilopram but she swore blind it could not have any effect that quickly. But I'm so scared of going back to the tearful depressed me at least now I don't feel anything at all. Think I'm going to do 10mgs and see how I go with the side effects and then try and see a new doctor in the new year. What a palava.

reastie Thu 20-Dec-12 14:12:42

heart that sounds really odd of the gp. There couldn't have been an improvement so quickly from you taking them I think, but, tbh it's a long term thing and if she thought you needed them a few days ago and just as she thinks you look a bit better today (and, let's face it, these things can vary depending on the day and your mood) she says you don't need them anymore I would question her logic and ability in this situ. Can you see another GP for another opinion? Book a double appointment to talk things through properly? Do you want to take them and think they will help or did you take them just because you were prescribed them?

OK, so does anyone find their libido comes back over time whilst on citalopram? I took it a number of years ago and remember I didn't have much interest but I didn't have a bf or DH then so it didn't matter. I have zero libido since going on them and finding it a bit sad . This is probably tmi blush but DH and I dtd the other day and I enjoyed it (although less than normal) but couldn't go anywhere with it IYKWIM and could have just not bothered sad . We had problems with my sex drive when I was on the pill as I lost all interest and it got to the point where we didn't have sex for months and months (if not a year or so) as I couldn't get into it and it hurt too much because I wasn't interested no matter what we did or tried. I don't want to go back to that again