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I don't know who I am anymore and I feel like I am drowning......

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cruisemum1 · 29/04/2008 13:05

In a nutshell, I am 42, married with a 10yo dd and 19mo ds. both gorgeous. My friends of old have all moved away - bar one. My family have also all moved away. dh works long hours and we do absolutely nothing together. I am basicallyl rasing my lo's single handedly. I feel I am losing my grip. Everything seems like a mountain to climb. Not sleeping well. Plus my dear lovely Dad passed away 16 days ago. Not even grieving well - don't seem able. I want your help.

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Songbird · 29/04/2008 13:13

I hope someone with relevant experience and expertise sees this as I'm afraid I can't help, other than to say we mumsnetters are always here to help and listen. It sounds like you are 'grieving well' for your father, even if it doesn't feel like it. Can you talk to your dh? See if he can't take a day off work and take your baby out for the day when your dd is at school, so you have some time to yourself. It sounds like you're so busy you haven't 'given in' to the grief you're feeling.

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Songbird · 29/04/2008 13:15

Just know that everything you're feeling is relevant and important, it's a big step to admit you're having problems coping. Is your mother still alive? Can you talk things through with her? Or siblings? I know some people don't have the easiest relationships with their families, but even though they live away, it's always possible to drop things to help a loved one in need. Don't be ashamed to accept any help that's offered - you need a break!

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cruisemum1 · 29/04/2008 13:15

songbird - thanks for post. dh not great at childcare. I would feel anxious if he was in his care all day. though I am sure they would have a good time. i feel like a shit mother even though I know I am not if that mkes sense. I feel so wound up. I want a break but dh would be outraged if he knew I felt this way and would get defensive about it. He is a very complicated man.

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cruisemum1 · 29/04/2008 13:16

my Mum ois visiting tomorrow for three days and she knows I feel like this but there is nothing anyone can do - she has just lost my Dad too........

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Songbird · 29/04/2008 13:22

Mmnn, I understand. Do you go to any mums and tots meetings? If not, put yourself out there. This sounds a lot easier than it is, I know! I get crippled with self-consciousness and feel like I've got nothing to offer people I don't know, but children are a great excuse for meeting new people. I made precisely 0 new friends when I moved to a new area 5 years before having dd, and now I may only have a few, but they're good friends and I wouldn't have met them if not for dd. Can you afford childcare? Even just for a couple of mornings a week?

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cruisemum1 · 29/04/2008 13:24

i do go to m and t groups and am not afraid of meeting people etc. I just don't know what i am anymore. I don't know what I like, I don't know how i come across, (sometimes i don't give a monkey's either!). But I am so negative and moany. I feel lost

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cruisemum1 · 29/04/2008 13:25

i feel like there is no light and shade. I feel joyless - even though my lo's are the absolute light of my life. I feel confused and lost

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cruisemum1 · 29/04/2008 13:25

i feel overwhelmed with what i do in a day and get flustered wtih all I need to do

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Songbird · 29/04/2008 13:27

I'm getting behind! Of course your mum's grieving too, but maybe that could help both of you.

Have you been feeling like this for a while, and it's come to a head recently because of your dad? Also, why would your dh get defensive if you let him know - typical men, they always think it's about them! If he's anything like my dh, he probably knows there's something wrong but feels unable to do anything about it, and feels more guilty every time he goes out to work. I think you need to lay it on the line, and tell him how you feel. Just to get it off your chest if nothing else - a problem shared and all that.

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Songbird · 29/04/2008 13:32

First of all, where the f* are all the people with experience of depression, I'm getting out my depth here .

This all sounds terrible, I really feel for you.

I'm afraid I don't know 'what you are' (I know you don't expect me to!), but do you need to know?

You're a unique person who happens to be a woman, a wonderful mother, a loving wife, a friend a daughter etc. I've felt like I lost my identity a bit when I had dd, but then realised I had a new one. It helped me to come back to work, although I came back for financial reasons, but it gives me something else to focus on.

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artichokes · 29/04/2008 13:32

Hi Cruisemum, I remember you from sleep deprivation threads that we shared last year. I am sorry to hear that you are feeling so down. How acutely did you feel all this before your Dad died? I only ask because grief can colour how we perceive everything. I lost my Mum four years ago and that lost sent me spiralling into a depression that made it hard to cope with anything or see any positives in my life. In the end my GP referred my for counselling (well actually Cognitive Behavioural Therapy because my grief was making me very phobic of certain situations). The therapy really helped.

Can you think of anything you really enjoy doing even if you have not been able to do it for a long time due to childcare? Some kid of hobby, or theatre going or even exercise? Would it possible to try and get your DH to give you one free night a week so that you can attend a class or something and meet other like minded people? Its just an idea but it might help.

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Songbird · 29/04/2008 13:35

You say you're overwhelmed with what you need to do and what you do do. But what do you really need to do? In the immediate term you need to give yourself a chance to grieve, even if that means other things get left undone.

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Songbird · 29/04/2008 13:36

Hello artichokes, it's very good to have you here, you sound a lot better equipped than me!

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Songbird · 29/04/2008 13:41

cruisemum, are you still here? Worried about you x

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cruisemum1 · 29/04/2008 14:53

thanks to you both. I am still here but was sorting out my dd's bedroom before she goes on school trip tmrw for 3 days.I have to get her rom school now but ih ave read your posts and am heartened by your replies. i will post again when i am free. thankyou

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cruisemum1 · 29/04/2008 14:53

thanks to you both. I am still here but was sorting out my dd's bedroom before she goes on school trip tmrw for 3 days.I have to get her rom school now but ih ave read your posts and am heartened by your replies. i will post again when i am free. thankyou

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Songbird · 29/04/2008 16:50

Won't be able to get back online till tomorrow morning now, so I'll check in then. You take care!

And remember, at least you've got one less person to sort out over the next 3 days!

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LoopyLena · 29/04/2008 17:44

Hi, I went through shit when my son was diagnosed with cancer at the age of 3, my marriage broke down, I moved out, became a single mum of 2, one of which had a 10% chance of survival, spent the best part of 2 years in hospital with him, watching the cancer cruely steal him away from us, having to leave DS2 with my mum and I missed his first steps, potty training and other milestones, went through a divorce, lost my precious son, was left with my DS2 who was only 3 years old, feeling lost, lonely, confused and skint - all DS1's benefits stopped, so I lost the DLA and Careers allowance, Child benefit, income support reduced, my car had to go back as it was on Mobility...and then...just to kick me when I was down, the benefits people decided I owed them hundreds of pounds because DS1 died on the wrong day of the week!!!!

But hey, I'm here, 5 and a half years on, re-married, with a beautiful new DD. DS2 is 8 now and worships his sis, although still terribly misses his big bruv.

Then....WHAM! Back to hospital's with DD!

She has DDH and other problems - but thats another story.

I have to ask...WHY? Haven't I spent enough time watching my children suffer? I'm sick of Childrens hospitals. I thought, between myself and DH we had done our share. He also lost a ds to cancer.

Some people ask me how I do it. I look at it like this...

In order to have rainbows...you must endure the rain.

...or terrential downpours in my case!

Someone must think I am a wonderful mother to send me special children that need extra care....

as opposed to .... what have I done wrong?

Now for the advice bit...

What got me through the worst times of my life, those really dark days, when it all starts to cave in and loneliness sets in was a wonderful person who I can only describe as an angel.

He was my counseller. He made me see the glass half full, he helped me to find 2 positives for every negative, he helped me deal with DS2's pain and grief, he taught me that grief has many stages, there is no set pattern, no rule book, no time scale, no right way and no wrong way - it's painful, it's agressive, angry, frustrating, blaming, guilt ridden and it's a very lonely thing to deal with.

I am under no illussion, I am STILL grieving. I lost my son when he was 5 years old. There is a hole in my heart and soul, a huge part of me is missing. It will be 6 years in September, but it may as well be one - my pain hasn't eased...I have just learnt how to live with it.

For you, it is only 16 days. You cannot grieve fully in such a short time, don't think that you are not grieving well, you are, and more importantly right now you are asking for help.

The best thing I ever did was talk. Either carry on talking on here or get a counsellor or even do both. Bottling your feelings up will fuel the explosion when the lid comes off and that's not good.

Try having a Homestart volunteer to visit you a couple of times a week, someone else to talk to. I know from experiance partners don't like to talk about our feelings and emotions - they can't handle it. Also, my DH works away a lot and works very long hours and he's always knackered and just wants an easy life when he gets home!

Another way to deal with things - although quite extreeme - is vent your aggression on something (not someone!). I know someone who lost a child that bought cheap plates, just so they could smash them! Personally - I threw anything I could get my hands on when the agression raised it's evil head, a microwave, a laptop... It all got rather expensive!!!! But, Boy, did I feel better afterwards!!!

Just remember, there are stages of grief, no 2 people will grieve in the same way, there are no rules, no one can tell you how to grieve or that you should 'get over it' or 'move on'.

Sleep deprivation is a major contributing factor to depression, see if your GP can help with that and a referal for counselling.

Remember...you are never alone. X

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lucyellensmum · 29/04/2008 17:59

16 days? since you lost your dad? you need to give yourself some time you really do. I am so sorry for your loss, i lost my dad two years ago and its still pretty raw actually. I didnt greive at the time, you need to make sure that you get some help to make sure you do. Does that make any sense. It is no good letting your grief poison the rest of your life - what i mean by that is, your grief is clouding your judgement and reaction to everything else that is happening to you just now.

You can go to your GP and ask for some grief counselling, maybe some medication if its appropriate.

You are not alone, and you are doing really well.....hang on in there

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lucyellensmum · 29/04/2008 18:03

loopylena, your post has left me speechless, cross posted with mine. You have put things so eloquently. I hope everything works out with DD for you

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cruisemum1 · 29/04/2008 22:30

loopylena - you make my worries seem so small. You are amazing. I hold you, even in your anonymity, in the highest regard. You deserve the very best of everything and i hope that you get it. thank you for taking time to post.
lucyellensmum - so sorry for your loss too. this grieving thing is so strange. manifesting itself in such strange ways. Sometimes it doesn't feel like bereavement at all. in my case it is a culmination of so many dissatisfactions in my life i think and they are all coming out at this time. I am confused and angry and sad and bleak and grumpy and bitter all at once. I have never felt like this though I have had lots of crosses to bear in my adult life. Thank you all for taking time to read/listen. see you tomorrow, cruise

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LoopyLena · 29/04/2008 22:40

cruisemum1, no pain is greater than that in YOUR heart. No worry is worse than that on YOUR mind. YOU are amazing too.

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lucyellensmum · 29/04/2008 23:20

I know exactly what you mean cruise it didnt feel real at all when my dad went, he wasnt himself for such a long time before it was a relief, its only now i have gotten over seeing him in such a bad way that i miss him desperately. But it is bittersweet, i was very lucky you see - he was a dad in a million He loved me more than life, i am honouring him by loving my DDs (one who he never met ) in the same way.

Be kind to yourself - and your DH, its hard for our other halves, i often feel disappointed in DP, but i know that he just doesnt get it, its not his fault. Im a bit plastered just now, i'll look in on you tomorrow.

Just one thing - don't leave this, i left it for two years before i asked for help, or before i got so bad that i nearly lost myself, and definately nearly lost my DP - go to your GP ask for help - in whatever form that takes, and please, allow yourself to greive. I bet your dad was wonderful too - nothing or no one can replace them, but we were lucky to have them

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alfiesbabe · 29/04/2008 23:21

LoopyLena, I couldnt read your post and not reply. Thank you for sharing your experiences. You have truly lived through things that most of us can barely imagine.You must have gone through every conceivable emotion. I admire you for your strength and courage, for growing through the experience, and having the wisdom to be able to share and support others. I wish you happiness and love and laughter in your journey.

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cruisemum1 · 30/04/2008 12:58

loopy and lucyellen'smum - thank you so much for your words. I will be back later, ds wanting lunch.

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