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Spiritual practice ENDED 7 years of mental illness...

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flakecake Sun 17-Mar-13 11:35:26

Hi all,
I used to talk on here many moons ago (2005-2007), as I was very very mentally disturbed and found every day a struggle. After 7 years of suffering I found out the cause of my pain was spiritual. Daily prayer and listening to Qur'an bought me out of it in 6 months. Bare in mind I did the drugs thing for 7 years and in a cyclical pattern had times when I felt I would not survive one more day without tranquilizers e.g diazepam. The cause, for me, was negative spirits... I am just throwing it out there for you all to consider, as now I have not been on medication for a year and feel like ME again, I feel normal. (grin)

TrampyPants Sun 17-Mar-13 14:23:39

I know you don't, and that's what so concerning.

flakecake Sun 17-Mar-13 14:24:42

Trampypants: You obviously did not read my initial post carefully. I did not tell anyone to stop taking their meds?!!!!!

flakecake Sun 17-Mar-13 14:27:07

Gosh... let me stop repeating myself... Enjoy your meds, er, for the rest of your lives

LoopaDeLoopa Sun 17-Mar-13 14:29:14

OK... Um... to be brutally frank you sound all that well OP confused

LoopaDeLoopa Sun 17-Mar-13 14:29:43

don't dammit

TrampyPants Sun 17-Mar-13 14:31:34

I did, I was merely posting that for the benefit of vulnerable posters reading this. And why do you assume that I am on meds? Because I disagree with your reasoning in posting here? Because I feel that you are irresponsible? Or because I didn't say "gosh, you're right! Satan stopped me from being able to eat/made me self-harm/made me suicidal"?

BuddyButters Sun 17-Mar-13 14:35:13

If you think you are or have been possessed you really need to get back on the meds.

You really need to go and talk to your doctor and other medical professionals.

flakecake Sun 17-Mar-13 14:38:10

Live's' the comment was aimed at a few people. ummm? Of course you do NOT have to agree with me. Do you harm yourself? If yes, do you know the cause?

Maryz Sun 17-Mar-13 14:40:46

I agree with what Trampy said. I don't think it is helpful to suggest to other people that they might be "possessed".

I think some spiritual practices, belonging to a faith community, and spiritual awareness/ exploration could be helpful in feeling grounded and having a sense of perspective in life which can help with our mental health.

Someone suggested to me going for a walk as a spiritual practice, and someone else suggested reading something inspiring every day. Prayers, like poems, can be very beautiful and helpful, as can the collected wisdom to be found from wise people of many faiths and cultures over many years.

However personally I don't believe in people being possessed by evil spirits.
And I agree with others that if you've been under the care of HCP's regarding your mental health you should continue to communicate with them about new ideas and practices that you are finding helpful.

Best wishes to all reading x

flakecake Sun 17-Mar-13 14:50:59

Jugglingfromheretothere: Well, if i'd continued communicating with them I would not be free now, looking after my daughter, looking after myself, hanging with my friends, looking for work, enjoying my flute/clarinet etc... but that's your opinion, I have personally had enough of them, and i am enjoying life without them and without medication, thanks

TrampyPants Sun 17-Mar-13 14:55:01

Mh professionals are not the enemy. They are there to help us.

And op, I assume that the self-harming question was aimed at me, I have issues. I know what caused them. The only maleavolant spirits involved were my parents. But, if I'd read this post a few years ago I would have made myself very ill, not being rational and all.

As long as you're OK flakecake, and give sound advice to others too, I'm sure that's all anyone posting here is concerned about.

TheAccidentalExhibitionist Sun 17-Mar-13 15:12:22

Op please do not PM me, I find it intimidating. I'm glad you feel well but you don't come across as being well.

I believe in evil spirits just as much as the tooth fairy (which is not at all)

Please go and talk to your MH team and let them be the judge of how you are feeling.

TheSecondComing Sun 17-Mar-13 15:18:13

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

I believe faith can be complementary to recovery, but not a cure. If there is a Higher Power then surely it operates through the medium of science and/or counselling.

I wouldn't normally comment on what a person considers to have been beneficial to their personal journey through mental health issues but I'm deeply uncomfortable with faith being promoted as the sole 'cure' for those issues.

It could prevent others from seeking the professional help and advice they need.

TrampyPants Sun 17-Mar-13 15:23:00

I got a pm too. I will report it.

AvonCallingBarksdale Sun 17-Mar-13 15:25:11

OP, I would second what others are saying - I think it would be a really good idea to speak to your MH team and tell them what you've told us on here. Just that. Good luck.

TheAccidentalExhibitionist Sun 17-Mar-13 15:37:37

Good idea Trampypants

fuzzpig Sun 17-Mar-13 15:47:21

I got a PM too.

I don't have a mental health team, they signed me off after 6 months of trying to find a problem with me and dd they found none.
good luck

psychiatric unit, well, okay, a lot of possessed people end up there!

You don't say hmm they are there because they are so mentally unwell that they think they are possessed!

sad

Maryz Sun 17-Mar-13 15:51:13

Oh, dear.

I have reported this thread, by the way. I don't think you sound terribly well op, and I'm not sure that pm-ing people is a very good way of communicating.

You may upset someone.

nenevomito Sun 17-Mar-13 15:57:09

I'm all for people finding faith and spirituality helpful in difficult times, it's not something I turn to being an atheist, but each to their own.

Thinking your MH problems are down to possession by evil spirits is a whole different kettle of fish, mainly because there's no such thing as possession or evil spirits.

I've gone through periods of believing I was better and not taking meds. It works for a while, particularly when I'm hypomanic as I feel fantastic. The problem is that it doesn't last forever, and I'm concerned that next time you're ill, you'll think you're possessed instead of getting help.

As it is, the only people I've ever met who thought they were/ have been possessed, were the people I met as an inpatient.

I can't stop you from kidding yourself, but I'd urge anyone reading this utter bollocks too think twice before blaming your MH problems on possession.

TrampyPants Sun 17-Mar-13 15:58:01

fuzzpig, I totally agree. I agree with Beertrix that some people find a peace from spirituality and that CAN help. but, alongside regular contact with MHPs and the correct treatment, whether it's medication, CBT or a short stay.

And I also agree with Mary, pming posters who disagree with you is creepy and intimidating. I have blocked and reported the PM, I would urge anyone else to do the same.

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