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Support thread - adults on the Autistic Spectrum :)

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fuzzpig Fri 16-Mar-12 08:41:41

Hello!

I've seen a lot of MNers mention being on the Spectrum, whether diagnosed or not. I thought we could use a long-running place to chat, share coping strategies and basically to know there are other people like ourselves, who won't judge us for being different.

I'm new to all this myself - only realised there was a possible name for How I Am a couple of weeks ago (thanks to MN)! Now I have a referral to an adult ASD specialist, to see if I have Aspergers. It's all happened very quickly.

Enough waffle from me (for now anyway...) but I hope other people will come along and find this thread useful. smile

fuzzpig Sun 10-Feb-13 10:18:55

Thanks for all the info about the diagnostic process. It's interesting, and a little scary, how varied it is.

TBH I don't hold out much hope for a dx. The psychiatrist I saw was so forceful and pretty much ignored what I was trying to say, he just sat there reading my hospital notes from ten sodding years ago - when I had just revealed the abuse and was self harming. Of course the focus then was on the self harm and abuse, we never even got to the deeper problems. Some people have said that all the problems are caused by the abuse but surely people with AS can be abused too hmm - I remember issues that predate the abuse and also my dad is incredibly similar. My parents don't remember much about my childhood because they were pretty shit parents TBH and were only interested in my academic achievement.

fuzzpig Sun 10-Feb-13 10:04:06

Remarking place!

Haven't heard anything from CMHT for ages. Last I heard was when I saw the psychiatrist in November, he said he would refer me to a psychologist for further assessment. But it seems not hmm

I am really more focused on physical health right now though - now that my diagnosis of CFS/ME is official I am hopefully reducing my hours at work. That said, it has taken becoming physically disabled to make me see that I can't keep hiding all my emotional/psychological problems any more, and I want to make this the year that I finally start confronting it all.

The great news is that as part of my treatment for CFS I am attending a group for CBT type therapy, and will have individual sessions after. I hope I will have some CBT locally as well in the future.

I think I am actually making a couple of friends in RL as well - scary but exciting!

Hope everyone is ok, I'm going to catch up now.

PandaOnAPushBike Sat 09-Feb-13 22:29:57

My assessment and diagnosis was through the NHS in Sweden.

mountains Fri 08-Feb-13 21:55:46

Thank you devilinside

"Trouble is, I feel like I'm 20 years behind everyone else in terms of maturity." I feel like that too... Still can't drive (40 too), and discover everyday new ways I have been p***ing people off unintentionally... (if that makes sense)
Did any of you with a diagnosis NOT have to bring in somebody who knew you as a child? Not only are my family not English-speaking or living in the UK, but nobody seems to remember me as a kid, including my mum. Guess it means I must have been a typical child?

devilinside Fri 08-Feb-13 10:53:04

Hi mountains, I my GP referred me eventually, after I wrote her a long list of why I thought I was on the spectrum. (after I pretendend I had taken the anti depressants) Frankly, I need a diagnosis so I can draw a line over the shit treatment I got at school, even though I know that I function well enough to survive in the real world, and hold down a job. Trouble is, I feel like I'm 20 years behind everyone else in terms of maturity. Finally passed my driving test and started a degree (not finished) at the age of 40

mountains Fri 08-Feb-13 01:00:03

Thank you Cailleach , that's very helpful, and good to know about the services, I had no idea there was such a thing as counselling aimed at pple with ASD, it's good to know it exists somewhere.
I might wait until Monday for an appointment, and clarify and write my points; But then he does know me well, and he happens to be a customer where I work, so he has, conveniently, seen first-hand my limitations in the work place! <sad silver lining grin > Yes I do see what you mean. It won't be difficult.... : /
thanks again.

Cailleach Thu 07-Feb-13 22:20:48

Mine was NHS, Mountains: took about 3 months in total from initial GP visit to diagnosis. I am aware though that provision of services from the NHS varies hugely across the country, so I wouldn't take that as any kind of definite timescale if I were you.

One thing I would advise you to do is to do what I did and write down all your symptoms and - this is the important bit - to explain there how you think your condition has impacted your life both past and present.

I think they may be more prepared to refer you if you can demonstrate that your condition is affecting your day to day life at the moment.

I have been told that there ARE counselling and support services: I will have 12 individual counselling sessions aimed at ASD people starting in a couple of months time. I didn't ask what this involves, I should have done perhaps but I was reeling a bit from the diagnosis at the time.

Again, what provision there is for ASD people may vary in your area.

Wishing you luck,

C

mountains Thu 07-Feb-13 19:28:50

Hi, I was wondering if you had NHS diagnoses, or private ones? Not read the whole thread, evidently, but I wanted to see my GP about it tomorrow... I asked him once already to refer me, and whilst he was sympathetic, he told me that since there's no services after diagnoses anyway, he could not justify the expense. I want to go back and tell him I'm interested in self-advocacy groups and that it's my reason for needing one. I think I might get an NHS assessment, but I'm worried of a year-long wait, and I'm tempted to go private, even if it means getting into debt, because I really want to know now. I have a part-time job, looking for more work and finding it so difficult. (I'm in Kent and would apparently have to go to Bromley for assessment, according to the NAS; in a place that does both NHS an private).
Thanks!

Cailleach Mon 04-Feb-13 00:58:49

The assessment on the 31st was my second: the first was with a junior psych who filled out a short questionnaire, then agreed that I was probably ASD and referred me to a more senior person. This was back in October. My referral came through pretty quickly.

I was asked to bring someone who had known me for a long time: preferably a parent. (I took my mother, who confirmed details about the family's suspected traits and other things about me and my childhood.)

The assessment took the form of the psychiatrist filling out long questionnaire whilst referring to the DSM IV (diagnostic manual for psychiatric conditions.)

I had no written screening tests, unlike Panda. This may or may not be because I had written a fairly long and detailed letter to them to ask for a referral initially and to outline my lifelong issues.

Funnily enough, Panda, I very much felt that my consultant made up his mind fairly quickly with me, too. The interview was supposed to last 5 hours, or thereabouts, but only took 3. I did feel that he more or less skipped over the second half of the interview...I don't mean that he was careless or eager to go elsewhere, he just seemed to have made up his mind by then.

Good luck with your appointment, devilinside

PandaOnAPushBike Sun 03-Feb-13 23:45:28

It was just me at my assessment. The main part of the assessment should consist of the Autism Diagnostic Observation Schedule (ADOS) which is a structured assessment process. In adults it usually takes the form of an interview with set questions, where the assessor isn't just looking at the answers given, they are also looking for other indicators of autism in how you respond to that interaction with them.

In addition to the talking part, I also had to do several written screening tests such as the AQ test for autism but also ones to rule out other things, such as anxiety, depression, OCD, borderline personality disorder etc. But I think this part varies from assessment to assessment and how thorough they are being.

The process is much shorter and less involved than the assessment for children.

Funnily enough in both mine and my daughter's cases, the person doing the assessment (different people at different hospitals) said after formally confirming the diagnosis through the ADOS thingy, that they knew within 5 minutes of meeting us what the results would be.

devilinside Sun 03-Feb-13 18:31:52

Hi, I have been referred and just waiting for appt to come. Can either of you give me some details on what is likely to happen at the assesment? Do I need to bring a family member? don't think my mum will come as she doesn't do supportive type 'social' stuff (funny that, eh!). DP probably will though

PandaOnAPushBike Sat 02-Feb-13 16:41:18

Welcome to the club. I got my diagnosis at 38. It was only when my daughter was being assessed that I began to realise that my responses to their questions would have been the same as hers. Therefore if she was AS then I must be too. Still came as a shock to have it confirmed though.

Cailleach Thu 31-Jan-13 18:39:08

This was the thread I was trying to find earlier. Have already started another thread but thought I would add this here for info.

Well, that was surprisingly easy; no muss, no fuss, as they say. Took about three months from start to finish.

I am posting this because I know some of you were thinking of being referred for a diagnosis and you may want to know what the process involves.

I wrote a letter to my GP, (outlining my lifelong difficulties which are mainly social but also sensory plus possible signs of a genetic link), who read it in silence and then said "hmmm, yes I think you definitely are." Was then seen by a counsellor who asked me lots of questions, also said "hmmm, yes I think you are too." Was then referred to a psychologist chappy who went through my whole life history (took my Mum along and he asked her lots of stuff too, mainly about babyhood / childhood.)

And then he said "yep, you're ASD alright..."

So there we are. Hey ho. Now being referred for something ominous-sounding called "post diagnosis counselling".

Was such a huge relief when he told me: it does make so many things startlingly clear. Also feel a bit of a fool that I have nearly got to 36 years of age without realising all this. Quel muppet, eh? (Apparently this lack of insight into yourself is common with ASD.)

I feel a bit shell-shocked really, even though I knew what he was going to say.

Think the gin may come out tonight: I may even whack some lemon in it.

PandaOnAPushBike Fri 04-Jan-13 23:09:49

I scored exceptionally high on the OCD screening test which was done as part of the ASD testing. I was told that under normal circumstances this would be cause for concern and would need looking at. As the other tests confirmed I had AS the OCD results were ignored as the consultant felt these were within the normal range for someone with AS and were a symptom of AS rather than a symptom of OCD. If that makes sense.

mumslife Sat 29-Dec-12 19:58:28

Just to say OCD and aspergers can often run alongside each other and are known as co morbid conditions

fuzzpig Tue 18-Dec-12 16:11:33

Hello all!

I had an appt with a psychiatrist last month and he was convinced I have OCD instead. Bit weird. He said he would refer me to a psychologist anyway so a good result in that sense. Haven't heard anything yet, but unfortunately physical health issues have taken priority now.

I'm really struggling at the moment, I am starting to accept how much anxiety is ruling my life. The crazy thing is, last month when a Professor of Psychological Medicine (I was being diagnosed with ME) asked me whether I felt anxious, I said no. Similarly I said I didn't feel very depressed. But I've come to the conclusion that actually I feel anxious SO much that it is like my baseline emotion. It is normal for me. Does that make sense?

I worry about such stupid things, what people said, germs, mistakes I imagine I made, whether things have patterns, it's endless. I don't know what it's like not to worry or be depressed.

Sorry I'm waffling now. My head is full of thoughts at the moment!

Hope everyone has a lovely Xmas smile

Berris Tue 18-Dec-12 15:50:27

My latest score on the 'quiz'

Your Aspie score: 131 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 78 of 200
You are very likely an Aspie

Just still can't make a decision about whether to do anything about it!

TheSilveryTinsellyPussycat Tue 18-Dec-12 15:11:27

Yy to decision making difficulty and stress depression.

Now my divorce is over, I have asked for a referral for assessment - at age 60! - and my psych is referring me. I really don't think I have bipolar although I can see how they arrived at that diagnosis.

Berris Mon 17-Dec-12 23:59:37

Coming in from the cold.....not a diagnosed Aspie, but have distinct traits - don't know if I'm borderline, or just someone with traits. Was diagnosed with stress induced depression earlier on this year, and have been having increased feelings of being a bit alien in the world.

I've always struggled with decision making. Like someone else a little further up, my pegs have to match (colour), I have a number of food texture issues, I have never liked loud voice noise or bangs/explosions, I'm quite happy if I only see the same people - quite content on my own. I don't like change, it unsettles and disturbs me quite a lot. I will feel overwhelmed and panicked in a crowd (not immediately, but after a while, it gets too much), I hate getting my face wet, I'm not brilliant at eye contact (although I have learned to fake this), I'm ridiculously clumsy and fall over/bump myself daily, my ex husband accuses me of "monologuing". There's probably other traits.

I've done the AQ test, and have come out as very likely Aspie. I've done other tests, and they have also pointed to Aspergers. I'm not sure if it is worth pursuing any form of diagnosis - have I found my niche and place in the world? Are my alien feelings as a result of the depression? Who knows?!

Anyway, that's just me saying hi to the thread x

gladiolus Sun 16-Dec-12 22:51:17

waves I've been sent over here from a thread I posted in the Relationships section about my dh who has possible BPD and myself, who has possible Asperger's. In his word, "We're both nutjobs!"

So, I suspected I had AS in October 2011 when I took the AQ test and got the result of:

Your Aspie score: 129 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 80 of 200
You are very likely an Aspie

But it took me till August this year to get around to seeing my GP to seek a formal diagnosis. As of now I'm still waiting although I had contact the other day from a member of the mental health team to say the lady I'm meant to be seeing has broken her arm and is off on sick leave so there will be a little bit more of a delay till she was back. So at least I know I am on the list.

TheLightPassenger Thu 01-Nov-12 18:17:07

glad to hear you have got started on the project. sorry that tutor was unsupportive, is he aware of the recent appointments/assessments you have had? it's over a decade since I last wrote a uni essay, but I am sure if you have any general questions re:your project, people on this thread or elsewhere on MN would gladly help.

SystemofaDowny Wed 31-Oct-12 20:44:22

Well I have chosen a subject and starting doing some of my project already but I had to get extra help and deadline extensions from my tutor. Even that wasn't easy, I don't seem to be able to explain what problems I have to the tutor properly and I think she just expects that I will 'get it' like everyone else. I don't but it took me almost having a meltdown in front off her (and several other students) before she would give me any extra help. sad

TheLightPassenger Wed 31-Oct-12 20:22:52

system- sorry didn't see your post till now. have you sorted anything out re:choosing a subject?

viking - I think it is usually a psychiatrist that diagnoses. In terms of wait, on the NHS it will vary massively from area to area.

VikingLady Tue 30-Oct-12 08:35:45

Can I ask a question? I've been following this thread with interest as it all seems so familiar to me, so I have been to the gp to ask for a referral to someone who can dx me as aspie (or not, as the case may be!). Who are they likely to refer me to? How long does it take?

Thank you. Sorry for reviving a dead thread!

SystemofaDowny Tue 16-Oct-12 18:20:15

Yes I also agree about the indecision as it is getting me in big trouble again at the moment. At university this year we are allowed to do a project that is a choice of anything at all you can think of. Everyone else is saying great and loves the freedom to choose anything. For me it is too difficult. Anyhing is far to big to choose from so I can't decide. I can narrow it down logically e.g subjects I'm interested in or that is easy or will get me good marks, but even within that there is still way too much choice. S when the tutor asks today what I have chosen (we have had 3 weeks to write a proposal) I still can't say anything and she gets angry at me because they have to order the equipment to start on thursday. I think I am getting another fail again this year sad

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