Runners thread - runners of all abilities welcome

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Sirzy Mon 03-Mar-14 07:53:21

As the first thread ( ) is now pretty much full time for a new one.

Thread for anyone who runs no matter how fast or slow or how long you run for to discuss all things running!

Sirzy Mon 03-Mar-14 07:53:38
EauRouge Mon 03-Mar-14 07:56:12

I would like to open the thread by saying MY LEGS! My poor legs. Anyone other HM runners struggle to get down the stairs this morning? My right hip is so stiff.

Sirzy Mon 03-Mar-14 07:59:14

Oh no Eau! Hope they feel better soon. Lots of ibroburfen today then?

I am aiming to get between 9 and 10k in this morning. Really want to do 10 but at the same time don't want to push too hard.

HaPPy8 Mon 03-Mar-14 08:02:24

I not sure i ever posted on your last thread but I love running and read your last thread. Im not especially good speed wise but enjoy long-for-me runs up to about 10 miles, occasionally slightly more. Totally clears my head, its therapy for me. Just love it.

Hi HaPPy8!

Mine were painful for three + days after my first EauRouge, not bad at all after this one (my 2nd!). Try and keep moving, try and get out for a gentle recovery run today or tomorrow smile

Sirzy Mon 03-Mar-14 08:08:44

Hi Happy! I know what you men about clearing your head, running is a great stress reliever!

EauRouge Mon 03-Mar-14 08:11:43

I won't be running anywhere today! I think I'll have a soak in the bath and maybe go out for a short run with DD1 tomorrow.

Hello, HaPPy8 smile

Fishandjam Mon 03-Mar-14 09:02:41

Eau no! (Sorry, couldn't resist - channeling those 1980s Perrier adverts!) Soak and ibuprofen for you, matey.

Hello everyone! Like the new thread.

MrsFrankTurner Mon 03-Mar-14 10:08:13

Morning everyone smile

I am running my first marathon in exactly 34 days and, after recovering from a back injury 2 weeks ago I'm now back into training & quite honestly bricking it that I don't have time to get my stamina back upconfused My aim was a sub 4 hour now my aim is to finish!!!

Well done to all the runners who completed a half over the weekend -HM is my favourite distance smile

ThursdayLast Mon 03-Mar-14 10:08:29

Hi HaPPy8!
Checking in to mark place really. I didn't deal with my post-parkrun trainers til this morning GRIM. That's a lesson learned alright.
Going to try and go out this afternoon, DP and DS dependent though...

ThursdayLast Mon 03-Mar-14 10:09:30

Hi MrsFrank, that sounds like quite a challenge you've set yourself! I hope your back behaves itself for you thanks

MrsFrankTurner Mon 03-Mar-14 10:17:43

Thanks Thursday -yes I hope it behaves too -I was over training hmm

Sirzy Mon 03-Mar-14 11:29:27

Hope your back behaves now MrsFrankTurner.

I didn't get out for my run today sad will do it tomorrow instead though

feetheart Mon 03-Mar-14 14:28:33

Eau - I felt and walked like John Wayne for several days after my first half marathon shock Take it very easy and bask in your achievement from a nice hot bath.
It was much better after my second one 18mths later.

roquefortlover Mon 03-Mar-14 14:45:51

Hello everyone and well done to everyone who did a HM this weekend! I never plucked up the courage to post on the last thread but have been lurking for aaaages so feel like I already 'know' you. I have been running for about 3 years now, started with C25k then worked up to 10k and did my first HM in Feb (Brighton). I had never run before and can't believe how much I love it now, I've joined a running club and everything and although not especially fast am slightly obsessed by it all! Looking forward to chatting with you all now that I've finally posted grin!

Sirzy Mon 03-Mar-14 14:56:25

Welcome roque!

It is very easy to become obsessed with running I have realised!

roquefortlover Mon 03-Mar-14 15:22:31

It really is! Am planning 2 more HMs this year and vaguely toying with the idea of a marathon at some point although not sure my ageing 47 year old body will stand up to it!

Sirzy Mon 03-Mar-14 15:27:30

I am sure you will be able to do it!

I am wanting to do a Marathon but aiming for 2016 for that

EauRouge Mon 03-Mar-14 15:28:23

Sure it will! There's a brilliant article in Women's Running this month about a woman that only started running seriously when she was retired. She's done loads of marathons. I think she's my new role model.

Gwan, enter the ballot for next year's VLM.

Sirzy Mon 03-Mar-14 15:33:26

I would love to do the London Marathon. Maybe I will apply for that in 2016!

ThursdayLast Mon 03-Mar-14 16:43:21

Hiya roquefort!
Hmmm, I think this thread is inspiring me to seriously consider entering a HM...
...but in the meantime...
Just squeezed in a 40min run, which is the quickest I've been able to run a particular route so I'm pleased with that. And then some 10 minute solution Pilates which has left my biceps burning confused

MrsFrankTurner Mon 03-Mar-14 18:28:34

Thursday -HM are very doable so go for itsmile I am finding the training for a full marathon very hard going! I have a young family & am the sole earner so trying to fit in the training around all my other commitments is tough hmm I told all my friends at Christmas I'd see them in April!
It'll be a while before I sign up for another marathon but will definitely do more HMgrin

roquefortlover Mon 03-Mar-14 18:38:02

Thursday well done on our run! you should definitely sign up for a half, even if its some way off. Honestly even a year ago I was saying I could never do one and it was too far but it really was achievable.

Eau I am really tempted to enter the VLM ballot. I think now I have even speculated on a full marathon I might always wonder whether I could have done it if I don't try, if that makes sense. DH not very keen on the idea as he is worried about time commitment for me in terms of training so am interested in your views*MrsFrank*- how much time a week would you say I would need per week to train? I currently run 3/4 times per week, most runs are about 50 mins to an hour with some shorter intervals and a Long run up to about 2 hours.

roquefortlover Mon 03-Mar-14 18:39:19

Bold failures there for some reason Thursday and MrsFrank

MrsFrankTurner Mon 03-Mar-14 19:03:21

Haha at the bold failuressmile I run 5 times a week following the BUPA marathon training plan intermediate level; this week I'm running:
60 min speed today
5 easy miles tomorrow
Rest Wed
20 min easy thur plus a 45 min tap dancing class
50 min tempo fri
Pilates Saturday
18 miles Sunday

Next Sunday is my longest long run of 22 miles then the tapering starts so it's all reaching a bit of a peak at the moment wink
My problem is the nature of my work means I can have a quiet day (like today) but then for the rest of this week I'm out of the house 13 or more hours so fitting in a 20 min run is fine; fitting in a 5 mile run tomorrow means getting up at 6 to run with the dog so I can get back for 7am then have time to cool down, shower & get dressed before getting the DS's up, dressed & fed! I'm constantly 'working backwards' I.e I need to be ready for 7.45am so half hour to get ready, 15 min stretch & cool down, therefore need to be up at 6 to fit it all in! thats what I find hard! But, if I had older children or if my job was more predictable hours i don't feel it would be as hard-it's still a lot of training but it's the other stuff that makes it logistically tricky!
To balance the whinging I have genuinely enjoyed watching my stamina & fitness increase & it's made me really appreciate the HM distance plus it's made me realise that for me, at this stage in my life, a HM is far enough to be a challenge but not so time consuming I have to forfeit a lot of other things!

thefemaleJoshLyman Mon 03-Mar-14 19:29:57

Hello all, very happy with running at the mo. 11.5km on Sunday, will do 30DS tomorrow and 7k on Thursday.

How do I do bold on a tablet? Keep wanting to do it but can't!

ThursdayLast Mon 03-Mar-14 19:34:57

FemaleJosh, I'm not sure you can hello (?)
I can't see bold or italics on the ipad grin

Sirzy Mon 03-Mar-14 19:36:08

if you put * either side of what you want to bold does that not do it? Does from my phone i think

ThursdayLast Mon 03-Mar-14 19:43:46

It didn't work, that's what I did sirzy.
The app is pretty sub standard really

roquefortlover Mon 03-Mar-14 20:14:38

mrsfrank yes when I read it back the bold failures thing made me laugh too when I read it back! I was doing it on iPad and as others have said the * thing doesn't always seem to work, nor does it on Blackberry.

Anyway, thanks so much for training info! That does sound like a lot of running time. I think I would be ok with the long runs, and I do about an hour with running club on Tuesdays, plus a speed intervals session and a short recovery run, but it would be quite hard for me to fit in another hour long session. I can really relate to what you say about always working back... I already get up at 0550 each day to get children ready before I go to work so mornings wouldn't work! Maybe evenings though... Well, the ballot doesn't commit me to anything does it and I can think some more!

Glad you are enjoying your running toofemalejosh !

Welcome roquefortlover smile

I personally don't use the app from my phone, just use the mobile site and with that * either side work as long as you leave a space on the outside and no space on the inside.

Did 4.5 miles this evening, it was much easier than I expected but my hamstrings feel very right at the moment!

roquefortlover Mon 03-Mar-14 21:54:05

Thanks Cinnamon ! Well done for running so soon after HM, I didn't run at all until the Thursday and then it was only 30 minutes.

Fishandjam Mon 03-Mar-14 21:54:52

Evening all! My experimental hour returned 7.8km, which I'm vaguely impressed with - I wasn't pushing it as I wasn't sure how I'd handle running for that length of time.What was nice is that it didn't feel like massively hard work; CV capacity was fine, though my legs are beginning to complain a bit now!

So maybe a 10k in June isn't beyond the realms of possibility.

After-dark running can be interesting, can't it! I caught a Tesco delivery driver having a crafty spliff, and two foxes having a bit of a Mexican standoff. Most surreal was the moment when a small terrier shot out of a garden, accompanied me for 20m or so, and then disappeared - not that weird, you might think, except that the iPod had chosen "Suburbia" by the Pet Shop Boys, and it was just breaking into the chorus. Spooky...

I forgot my headtorch tonight so had to cope with everyone else's light and we were down some quite narrow cycle tracks!

Well done Fishandjam!

gd1976 Mon 03-Mar-14 22:08:38

Hi all, I'm new on this thread and v interesting reading all your posts. Out of interest what are generally people's average time per mile? I have been running for nearly a year, but I don't push myself and am by looking to do any races, but I go 3 times a week and would just be interested to see if I am running particularly slowly!! I don't really want to up my speed as I enjoy what I'm doing, but am just

Usually 9-10min miling, my fastest 5k is just under 26mins, 10k 54mins and hm 2hr 1min.

And welcome gd1976!

orangeflutie Mon 03-Mar-14 22:11:33

Hi can I join? I posted on another thread yesterday about first HM I did yesterday. My legs are really stiff today too! Just had a long soak in the bath. Hope they improve tomorrow.

gd1976 Mon 03-Mar-14 22:13:59

Thanks cinnamon- I seem to be anything between 9mins and 11mins, I seem to have got slower (lazy) in the last couple of months!

feetheart Mon 03-Mar-14 22:22:32

roquefortlover - I only started running at 46. I did my first half marathon the year I was turning 50 and my second last autumn at 51. I am still toying with doing a full marathon and think I should probably just get on with it. Anyone know when the VLM ballot is?

roquefortlover Mon 03-Mar-14 22:24:04

Hi orange flutie and gd1976! My times are similar to cinnamon's, I tend to do about 9 min 30 although can go faster over short intervals and also seem to speed up in races. My PBs are 25.01 for 5k, 51.21 for 10k and 1.57.24 for HM. Hope this helps!

Sounds like a good run fishandjam!

OhOneOhTwoOhThree Mon 03-Mar-14 22:25:25

Evening all, just marking my place. Lovely to see new runners joining us smile.

roquefortlover Mon 03-Mar-14 22:26:16

X post with feet heart! Maybe we should both go for it grin. Not sure when ballot opens but it is usually the week after the race I think? I have heard of people setting alarms specially early so as to be able to enter before it cuts off!

Sirzy Mon 03-Mar-14 22:27:20

I am still very slow, my fastest km has been 6.26 which I think is around 11 min mile? Getting better though Slowly but surely!

feetheart Mon 03-Mar-14 22:27:36

I will if you will grin

trainersandaches Mon 03-Mar-14 22:29:56

Hi, I would love to join! Have been running since I was about 19 but I go through stages where I do nothing for months then loads (recipe for injury) so this year I am trying to get some stability to my runs - started off in Jan doing 5ks and have just been increasing it.

I 11k yesterday at a pace I'm happy with, so looking to maybe do a 10k in the next few weeks...

roquefortlover Mon 03-Mar-14 22:31:21

Can feel myself getting more and more keen by the minute! It's a dangerous thing de-lurking on this thread!!

feetheart Mon 03-Mar-14 22:33:06

For the first 4 years I was an 11:30 plodder regardless of distance (from 5k-half marathon) but after a layoff early last year due to injury and illness I was suddenly running 10:30 a mile. I have no idea why and I still seem to be getting quicker inspite of limited running this winter. Really keen to have a decent spell of running to see how quick I can get - competitive moi?

Joules68 Mon 03-Mar-14 22:34:37

Toying with the idea of the Milton Keynes HM... Even got the day off work already

Also, through my voluntary job I could get a marathon place for next year. Confused though.... What happens if you don't reach the sponsorship amount suggested?

EATmum Mon 03-Mar-14 22:34:46

Oooh hello lots of new people! Congrats again to everyone who did their run yesterday and for sharing their advice. In going to need any tips on offer as I've managed to hurt my knee now, with less than 3 weeks to go! Nervous. My personal trainer friend says IT band injury. Any thoughts/recommendations re exercise? She seemed to think that agonising movement over a roller would help -if I can achieve same without tears-

SinglePringle Mon 03-Mar-14 22:39:05

Hello. Can I join? I'm not nearly as impressive as you lot! I do 5k three times a week, usually in about 25 mins but I am exhausted during and after it! I do stop sometimes - but only for, say, 30 secs to a minute. Wish I could do if flat out.

I also do Pilates twice a week and swim 60 x 25 meters twice a week so it's not like I'm totally unfit. Any tips to stop me stopping?!

feetheart Mon 03-Mar-14 22:40:22

EAT - get to a sports physio ASAP. They will assess you and give you the correct exercises.

Fishandjam Mon 03-Mar-14 22:40:57

Hello new folk! (Sorry to not name names, am on phone and it can get tricky with all the asterisks and scrolling to and fro <lazy typist>)

My comfortable pace is turning out to be around 7m30s per km, which I am aware is equivalent to continental drift. I can go a bit quicker over 5k, but not much. Still, I only started running last year (aged 39 feetheart - it was realising I was about to turn 40, with young children, woefully unfit). So hopefully there's still scope for me to improve. Given when I started my km time was 9m45s, I'm still a bit shock that I can achieve the time I do!

vikkik888 Mon 03-Mar-14 22:44:24

Hi I'm new to this thread too. I'm meant to be running the London marathon but am out with ligament damage at the moment sad

I haven't run for a week and been told to give it another week so I'm really worried I won't be able to give it my best, if I can even run it at all. I know you're automatically entered into next year's race if you have to pull out due to injury but my heart was set on running it this year as it's my first full marathon and I've been buzzing about it! 2 weeks out with only 6 weeks to go is a lot though.

I've pulled out of the Hastings half which I'm gutted about because it'll be the first in 4 years I've missed and I love it, but it's very hilly and not worth the risk if I want to get round London a few weeks later.

Good luck/well done to everyone with their training and races smile

MerryBuddha Mon 03-Mar-14 23:05:07

Slightly stiff this evening!!

I woke at 4.30 this morning, with excitement of how well I did yesterday and have spent the day telling anyone who would listen!!! OMG, I have turned into one of those people who are obsessed and over-boastful!!

Tomorrow, I will rein it in!!! I promise.

EauRouge Tue 04-Mar-14 04:32:48

Hello to all the new runners smile

Well done on your hour long run, fish, that's fantastic! I'd say you'll easily be able to manage 10k in June.

I feel less achey now but that might be because I'm lying down. grin

So lovely to see so many new posters!

If you get a charity place with a minimum sponsorship they you have to pay the difference if you don't raise enough, hence why it's a big responsibility and a they don't fill up as quickly!

5k in 25 mins is pretty quick SinglePringle, I'd say your stopping is mind over legs personally. Perhaps slow it down slightly until you can complete the while 5k then increase speed again.

Oh no EATmum, I've no idea with injuries but I'd get to see someone who does or google wink seriously though if you are sensible and can be sure where your pain is oh can quite often fine exercises to help.

vikkik888 I guess it depends how you want to do it. This may literally be a once in a lifetime chance. Do you want to do it this year and do ok or do it next year and do it as well as you can? If you have a time in mind and aren't going to make that I'd defer but if you just want to get round and have the experience then go for it this year smile

Sirzy Tue 04-Mar-14 07:56:54

Hello to all the new posters, love waking up to all the new posts will have a good catch up after my run later!

Sod's law says I didn't get to run yesterday when the weather was lovely. Time to run today and it's bouncing down. Torn between aiming for a good 5k or out for an hour again as far as I can. Will see how I feel when I get out!

We had sunshine in the morning and hail in the evening then it cleared up and we've had a super hard frost overnight!!

milewalker Tue 04-Mar-14 08:35:12

morning to you all, can I come in and have a moan/little cry. did a half marathon sunday (not my first either) and yesterday and today I'm hobbling round on makeshift crutches resting the best I can. My Dr signed me off work for a week yesterday as my leg is so bad and I feel really miserable-will I ever run again?

MrsFrankTurner Tue 04-Mar-14 08:46:35

Oh no Mile hmm you will run again but you have to rest even though every sinew in your body wants to run (during my 11 day enforced run abstinence I was twitchy & dreaming about running -think I may be addicted!)
I did a fairly fast 5 mile this morning but the marathon feels terrifyingly close-I'm starting to fret about sleep deprivation causing injury & have told DH he has to sleep in the spare room until I've done the marathon as him with his snoring & restlessness will be the sole cause of my marathon failure -he pointed out I was being a little irrational grin

HaPPy8 Tue 04-Mar-14 08:54:33

It was lovely running this morning, its finally getting lighter and the sun was out despite being very cold. I see, to be getting slower though :/ I dont know why this bothers me but it does sad

feetheart Tue 04-Mar-14 09:05:19

Buddha - enjoy Every Single Second of that wonderful feeling, you have earnt it.

milewalker - take it easy then get yourself to a sports physio. I seem to be getting a bit repetitive here but one visit got me sorted and through the GNR a few weeks later with no after-effects and no problems since so I am a bit evangelical smile

EauRouge Tue 04-Mar-14 09:11:55

Oh no, mile sad Hope your leg gets better soon. Any ideas what happened?

It's a beautiful day here too but I'm not going out today. Still in pain from a toenail on my left foot, and my right hip. Will probably go for a little recovery run tomorrow.

Happy8 Have you been getting slower for a while? Have you checked all the usual stuff (sleep, hydration, iron levels etc)?

DH and DD1 are signing up for a local 10k and 1k so I might sign up for the Great Eastern and another small local race. I've definitely got the bug now! My HM medal looks lonely on its own....

Sirzy Tue 04-Mar-14 09:14:11

Oh no mile. Hope you feel better soon.

My motivation to run today is quickly going between rain and period pain. Going to drag myself out but not expecting anything great - may try a new route to change things a bit!

ThursdayLast Tue 04-Mar-14 09:25:00

Morning everybody and hello to all new posters grin
DP gave DS breakfast etc this morning so I thought it was an ideal time to get a long (for me) run in. Then I decided to take the dog. Honestly, he's crap, talk about the quickest way to ruin my motivationangry
So we did 3.5 miles in about 37 mins. Not satisfying, but enough to allow me guilt free pancakes wink

milewalker Tue 04-Mar-14 09:33:39

Dr did few 'tests' on my leg yesterday and had me moving it in different ways and said there was no problem with the alignment so I think that's good but it hurts like hot knives if I try to lift it up to go upstairs. He's not really sure what the problem is and has referred me to the physio.

about four weeks ago i started jillian michaels no more trouble zones and was aching due to starting that so instead of taking things bit easy three weeks ago today i ran a hard 10k race. The next morning i had a bit of a niggle in my leg but ignored it, kept going with jillian and kept running. The pain was coming and going-nothing to bad as to stop me exercising/running so i did another 10k the week after the first one and five days after that ran another 10k race which was all cross country. I was in bit of pain after and the next day ached quite a lot but took it easy (this was all last week) till sunday when i did the half. i got to about 10 miles and knew i was in trouble but there were no marshals so i had to walk to the finish prob making leg worse.

so here i am today, I've sold my place for a run i was supposed to be doing sunday coming that i really really wanted to do and I've now got to rest and hope it gets better soon. I have no idea what I've done but i think theres a high chance I've just over trained my poor old leg and its gone on strike as its had enough.

the only thing that's making me half smile is i didn't get a DNF and i did get my finishers t-shirt.

Sirzy Tue 04-Mar-14 09:50:41

3k done in just over 20 mins on a hilly route so happy with that. Not as far as I planned but faster than normal so happy with that

Cocochops Tue 04-Mar-14 10:23:26

Hello to all new posters and well done to all hm runners at the weekend. Sorry on phone can't name check. Did my first park run on Sat and loved it gutted I can't make it this Saturday but am definitely aiming to make it a weekly event. Plotted a new route for tonight so hoping to do 4 miles. Weather is so gorgeous here I wish I could go now!

Finished 'running like a girl' really enjoyed it. That coupled with all the talk on here has got me thinking I would like to do a marathon now!

Sirzy Tue 04-Mar-14 10:37:16

I am 3/4 of the way through that and loving it. So much I can relate to

SinglePringle Tue 04-Mar-14 10:42:56

I hear you Cinnamon! I know I tell myself I cant do it - don't know what I'm scared of but there is something holding me back. I'll try the going slower thing tomorrow.

Did a fantastic (hard!) barre Pilates class last night also. Blimey my groin is feeling it today! Off for a swim in a bit to get some cardio and toning in - but in a gentle manner!

I've an old injury which means I can't run every day but it's a gorgeous day for it! Happy running to those who make it out!

Jeregrette Tue 04-Mar-14 20:07:19

SinglePringle" I do 5k three times a week, usually in about 25 mins but I am exhausted during and after it! I do stop sometimes - but only for, say, 30 secs to a minute. Wish I could do if flat out. "

Yes you are definitely going too fast (there is such a thing). Sounds like you are training at race pace. Ideally most of your training should be at comfortable conversational pace unless you are doing specific speed training. I always used to make the mistake of trying to beat my time every time I went out to do 5k but I just got injured a lot and found running painful and exhausting. When I stopped trying to beat the clock and worked on endurance, going longer at a slower pace, my speed and comfort doing shorter distances naturally improved.

25 minutes is fast though- and I'm quite envious. My fastest 5k is 26.19 and I'd love to break 24.

Jeregrette Tue 04-Mar-14 20:10:51

By the way how rude of me to just jump in!. I've been lurking for a while. May I join you.

I've been running since I turned 40, have run one HM (pretty slowly just under 2.30 but only had about 4/5 weeks to train after a period of injury (i wouldn't recommend it)) and currently training for 10ks this year.

I'd love to run another HM if the knees are up to it- and hopefully a marathon

NinetyNinePercentTroll Tue 04-Mar-14 20:29:25

Evening all, can I play? At the mo I'm a 10k'er, a fairly slow one, but a happy one. I'd love to get to marathon distance but that's a fair old chunk of training away.

I'm due a shoe change, I'm in Nike Anodynes at the mo but could do with a bit more arch support. I love the look of the Nike Run 5.0 series but no idea what the support is like. I need to go for another gait test to try them out, I think.

Sirzy Tue 04-Mar-14 20:48:09

Hi Jeregrette and Ninety!!

Jeregrette Tue 04-Mar-14 20:56:36

Waves to Sirzy

A non running day for me to day (got to rest those damn knees!) which I find frustrating but know I have to do it to reap the benefits of training.

Am dipping into Bob Glover's competitive Runner's Handbook when I can. It's a wonderful resource for runners and covers just about everything you need to know about running/training for various distances.

NinetyNinePercentTroll Tue 04-Mar-14 21:10:16

Hola Sirzy!

Jere, I've read a string of running books recently obsessive, moi? - That one that everyone raved about, Running Like A Girl (?), then one about running around a village (?), one about armchairs and running. Currently reading one about Ultramarathons (fat man to Green Man, something like that?), ok so far. Sorry I'm so vague on titles, it's not my strong point (I'm the same with films).

NinetyNinePercentTroll Tue 04-Mar-14 21:11:55

Rest day for me too. Last out on Sun. Out tomorrow. I do 10k 3-4 x week.

Jeregrette Tue 04-Mar-14 21:20:30

Yeah I've read Running like a girl, Feet in the clouds, Running with Kenyans, Books by Ultramarathoners Jurek and Karnasez (Ultramarathons fascinate me), Born to Run, of course, I love them.

I also love hearing abvout women who started late in life like Helen Klein (American ultramarathoner) now in her 70s or 80s, The iron nun who does loads of ironman triathalons and Priscilla Welch who started eartlier at 36 but made the Olympics wgen she was 39 and set lots of Masters records thereafter.

I think the wonderful thing about running is you can start late and if you discover you are good at it, could go on to set Masters World records ( we can dream!)

feetheart Wed 05-Mar-14 09:11:38

Beautiful morning - cold, crisp and clear, my ideal running weather.
Did 3.8miles before breakfast and can now feel smug all day smile
Not so happy with the time as it was supposed to be a fast run but head feels clear and should feels restored.
Does anyone else use the 'age grading' system to track progress? Not quite sure I understand it completely but my percentage figure is going up which is good I think.

feetheart Wed 05-Mar-14 09:12:16

soul not should hmm

Fishandjam Wed 05-Mar-14 11:57:50

Hi feetheart. Yes, I use the age grading thing a bit - I console myself when looking at my rather low percentages (though rising, as you say) with the fact that I'm being measured against the fastest person on earth in my category grin

On another topic, please could you all advise? I'm looking to get a small rucksack that I can comfortably run with on longer distances, to hold things like car keys, water, phone, food, whatnot. Any recommendations would be gratefully received!

RufflingFeathers Wed 05-Mar-14 15:36:38

Hey all. can I mark my place, have been lurking…..!

Sirzy Wed 05-Mar-14 15:38:05

whats the age grading thing?

Hi Rufflinf.

Sirzy Wed 05-Mar-14 15:38:16

ruffling even

ThursdayLast Wed 05-Mar-14 16:31:54

I only heard about age grading on Sat after my parkrun.
I don't know exactly how it works Sirzy, but it allows you to compare yourself to other runners of different ages/abilities over different distances. It's worked out as a percentage, mine was 50.something confused

I did my long run earlier, but accidentally paused runkeeper for what I suspect was about ten minutes FFS angry
Anyway,it's a route I've done before, approx 7.5 miles, I was just pleased to get out and cover a fair distance. I'm starving now though!

MrsFrankTurner Wed 05-Mar-14 17:48:24

I've paused map my run before and only realised when I noticed my coach hadn't spoken for a while! Vvvv annoying -sympathies Thursday confused

I know what you mean about the hunger but mine strikes 24 hours later -I can feel quite sick after a run for a few hours & have to force feed myself but the next day (like today!) I'm ravenous! Guessing it's my body compensating for what I've lost but it's most annoying I don't feel like this straight after!
Rest day for me today -quick 20 min tomorrow then 50 mins Fridaysmile

NinetyNinePercentTroll Wed 05-Mar-14 20:40:37

Jere, ultras are an area of "omg" interest to me too. I'd love to do it do I, but having never even managed a half marathon, I'm a long way off. The thing is, I know that I felt like I couldn't run 2k a year ago and I look at how far I've come and almost think "anything's possible". It was psychological barriers holding me back from running further and looking at future goals /increasing distances - obviously with proper training (and nutrition!), I'm pretty sure I could run and run and run.

<overly optimistic>

NinetyNinePercentTroll Wed 05-Mar-14 20:45:17

Re hunger, I find the nutrition thing hard because I'm a fairly light eater and eating less than 3hrs pre run makes me feel v sick (I even have trouble with water) and I find that I'm not hungry after I run either. It seems to steal my appetite. I have to force myself to eat (H gives me the "stern face"), not because of any worry re gaining weight or calories or whatever, just purely from a hunger/nausea point of view. It's almost like I'm so full of adrenaline post run that food makes me queasy.

ThursdayLast Wed 05-Mar-14 20:52:44

I'm not generally a light eater NinetyNine, but other than that I feel the same.
I simply cannot get into any kind of groove if I've eaten in the last three hours, and it takes me an hour to feel hungry after. Often I eat when I get in due to the logistics of our lives, but without any proper appetite for it.
But after 7-8 miles today all early evening all I could think about was cheese scones <drool>

I have got better at eating closer to running the more I've been doing it. Some days I get back and eat my tea straight away and other days I can't eat for some time and don't really know what the difference is. Been out and done 5.5 miles this evening with dogs smile

roquefortlover Wed 05-Mar-14 21:30:36

This thread is really busy! Lots of us delurking at once and lots of good runs too. Commiserations to those struggling with injury, hope you are back on form soon! Re age gradings, I do find motivating, and it helps to remind me not to feel dispirited when I am running with the 25 year olds at my running club! I have read most of the running books mentioned as am obsessed with both running and reading so they combine my two favourite pastimes in one lovely package grin. Another good one if you like running like a girl is the lazy runner by Laura Fountain - she has a blog as well which I like.
I can't eat very close to running either, it makes me feel really sick and gives me stitch! I had to make a real effort with the timing of fuelling before my HM long runs and the race itself, and I still prefer to eat very lightly and about 2 or 3 hours before. then jelly beans every half hour on the long runs to keep going! Afterwards is another matter though, no problems eating huge amounts then....and I have lots of cheese scones made by dd at college if you are interested Thursday!
Not run today, strength training at home instead. Ran yesterday with Club, decided to push myself a bit so went with middle group some of whom are pretty fast, so as they were chatting at easy pace I and a couple of others were puffing along at the back! Plus the route seemed to stick together all my least favourite hills around town, and my Garmin wouldnt find a satellite so I don't know how far or fast we went.. Oh well, really enjoyed catching up with everyone and I think it was about 50 minutes and maybe 5 or 6 miles? Might try a longer run tomorrow if I can leave work a bit early.

Enjoy the sunshine!

ThursdayLast Wed 05-Mar-14 21:35:10

Yes please grin

roquefortlover Wed 05-Mar-14 21:37:08

I will send you a virtual one! They are yummy and she is very proud. Just imagine this is a cheesy delight not a boring biscuit biscuit !

Jeregrette Wed 05-Mar-14 21:38:42

Just went out and did my usual 5k in about 28 minutes. Then tagged on another k on the end and finished going up a 5 minute long hill (good for the old quads!)

Not back to my fastest yet but taking it steady as got a 10k coming up and don't want another injury.

Fingers crossed.

ThursdayLast Wed 05-Mar-14 21:43:49

Yummy, thank you wink
Jere, do you live in a town? I'd get run over for sure if I went out now grin. I also use hills as 'extra' training, buns-of-steel-buns-of-steel going like a mantra in my head as I take steps about 3inches long!

Jeregrette Wed 05-Mar-14 21:50:35

Yes, I live in a suburb and there are long straight pavements with cycle tracks and walking tracks parallel and there are lots of runners about - it's great. I almost always go out once the children are in bed so used to running in dark. Wouldnt do it in the sticks though.

MrsFrankTurner Wed 05-Mar-14 21:53:11

Ooh thanks for the book recommendation Roquefort I'll check that out I love a good running book grin I gained the confidence to actually go out & run 3 years ago because I read a fab chick-lit book 'mum on the run' by Fiona Gibson - really made me chuckle and think "yeah, why not....I can run"!
I really struggle with the nutrition and really don't think I eat at the 'right' times in that I completely miss the "carb window" as I feel so sick but it's a work in progress!

roquefortlover Wed 05-Mar-14 21:54:06

Jeregrette I am impressed by you going out so late In the evening, I only ever run with running club after dark, partly visibility but also find it hard to motivate myself to leave the house once everyone else is settling down.

I am trying to grow to love hills, live in a gently hilly area so I can't avoid them although I have tried! I do think hills are great for measuring progress and training on them makes the flat seem like you're flying.

SinglePringle Wed 05-Mar-14 21:55:04

Thanks Jeregrette. I do try and run slightly slower but I end up,listening to fast music and running speed just increases! Good tip though - to work on endurance not time. Will give it a to tomorrow and report back...

Sirzy Wed 05-Mar-14 21:55:12

I struggle with nutrition too, not helped that I am also trying to lose weight so getting the balance right is tough.

roquefortlover Wed 05-Mar-14 21:55:57

Ooh yes MrsF, loved Mum on the Run! Might re-read it actually, I too was a non-runner when I read it originally?

Sirzy Wed 05-Mar-14 21:57:05

I think I need to do some more downloading onto my kindle! Nearly finished running like a girl so need something new

Bollard Wed 05-Mar-14 21:59:16

May I join? smile. I did the C25K programme before Christmas, had a few false starts after Christmas and am finally getting back into it. I've done the C25K+ stamina and speed podcasts a few times and found them useful, and today managed to run for 39 mins and covered a shade less than 5K. I'm really pleased with myself but realise that for some of the runners on this thread it was probably at the pace of their brisk walk! It felt really fast to me, and I was red and sweaty afterwards. I'd like to be able to run 5k in under 30 minutes - any tips gratefully received.

Jeregrette Wed 05-Mar-14 22:02:15

Well I was actually out at about 7.30 to a little after 8 but by the time I stopped off at the shop on the way home and came in put my pasta on (it is hard to eat at about 9) it was 9.30. normally prefer to go out just after 7pm and be back by 7.30/8pm if poss.

Yes I cant say I enjoy hills- but they make you feel so good afterwards. I feel I dont have to run fast I just have to make it to the top

Jeregrette Wed 05-Mar-14 22:08:21

Bollard Just keep running the 5k at a pace that's comfortable fore you. Soon you will find running at your existing pace feels easier and easier and you'll naturally get faster.

Try going further once a week but slower than your usual /natural running speed. Add about a mile a week (too much and you might get injured) and you should find when your endurance goes up so will your speed.

In the future you can try doing intervals to increase speed but maybe do the above for about 6 months before looking at those.

You are doing very well- just to run 5k is something many people can't do

Bollard Wed 05-Mar-14 22:16:09

Jeregrette thanks smile

ThursdayLast Thu 06-Mar-14 09:16:08

Just talked my sister into joining me in a parkrun when she visits next month grin

EauRouge Thu 06-Mar-14 09:25:55

Bollard I found that doing longer distances and working on my core strength made me faster. It took me maybe 6 months after C25k to get a sub-30 5k. If there's a parkrun near you then try going to that, sometimes they have pacers (if they don't then ask, someone will be sure to volunteer) and that can help make you faster.

I think I'm going to have to go to a chiropodist about my toenail. I can't run today anyway because I've been struck down with the lurgy, but my toe is still really sore.

Hi Bollard! I guess it depends if you want actively or passively increase your pace iyswim. Interval training is definitely the way to go to work hard at in reading pace but as others have said either carrying on with what you're doing or increasing distance slightly each week/fortnight will naturally improve fitness and therefore speed. Before I joined a club and actively trained I just tried to go a bit faster when I felt ok while I was running and I did increase my pace.

I saw one three weeks ago EauRouge and so wish I'd done it earlier!! She got rid of all my hard skin, a corn, thick nail and improved two black toenails and treated my varrucas all for £25! She coming back every 4 weeks at a lower charge to continue with my varrucas and I have to soak them but she was great and it wasn't painful like I expected. She also recommended some cream to stop the hard skin coming back which has been sold out everywhere I've been!

EauRouge Thu 06-Mar-14 13:06:10

<warning, do not read if you're grossed out about feet>

Wow, that's not a bad price. I get really bad patches of hard skin. It doesn't bother me unless it gets really thick and forms lumps, then it sort of digs in. I've never felt like it's affected my running though, just this painful toenail.

<Graphic talk about feet ends here>

I am itching to get back out there. Will do a few shorter runs to build up and then the plan is to do HM distance on a road when it's not windy and see if I can beat my time. Not that I'm competitive or anything.

Bollard Thu 06-Mar-14 13:30:46

Thanks for the tips. I'm going out tomorrow, have re-set endomondo so I get told when I've completed each KM, got some new music on my playlist, and my challenge is to make it the full 5K. I really liked the structure of C25K and unless I keep challenging myself I'll just drift away from it.

Love the feet talk! I have yellow crusts that only a professional will be able to treat! My new trainers are a half size bigger than my old ones and my toes feel happier.

EauRouge Thu 06-Mar-14 13:47:51

Have you thought about doing a 10k training plan? Even if you haven't got a race planned, it'll give you the same kind of structure as C25k.

Bollard Thu 06-Mar-14 14:42:06

Running for about 30-40 minutes suits my day - hence my goal being eventually to run 5K in 30 mins. Do you reckon a 10k plan would help with that? How long are the training sessions?
What sort of training are you doing?

EauRouge Thu 06-Mar-14 15:19:07

To get your 10k estimate, you just multiply your 5k time by 2.1 (so I've read, although my 10k time isn't quite that fast!). If you just want to run a longer distance in 30 mins then maybe just try to aim to knock a certain amount of time off each week- has your app got a pace alarm feature?

runningforme Thu 06-Mar-14 15:35:02

Oooh, can I join the thread too please! I am relatively new to running, but have done a 10k and 2 HM's. I did the second on Sunday - though not the Reading Marathon as I'm in Toronto. I did the Burlington Chilly Half, so named because it is bloody freezing! We have had the worst winter here in Ontario for over a decade I'm told, and I have had to train through freezing rain, snow blizzards, ice sheets and feet of snow. Race day was -19 degrees with fresh snowfall from the night before!

I am taking the week off because it has been a tough few months and I've had nagging injuries, but Sunday I will join my running group again for an easy run of between 5-10k.

I usually cross train too with kettle bells, but had to drop off because it was a bit brutal and made me too sore for hills and long runs. I'll start that up again next week too though. I am toying with the idea of signing up for the Niagara Falls women's HM in June - fab goody bag which includes a bottle of boutique wine grin

orangeflutie Thu 06-Mar-14 16:01:49

Hi I managed a nice 4 mile run in the sun yesterday. It was my first since the HM on Sunday as I was quite stiff on Monday and Tuesday. I'm planning to go out again tomorrow and then do 14 and a half miles on Sun eek! Got to get on with it though as not long until London. I'm feeling a mixture of nerves, excitement and fear at the thought of it all!

It's so nice to run in this lovely weather though. Hope it lastssmile

EauRouge Thu 06-Mar-14 16:13:03

Hello, runningforme smile Is the Niagara HM the same as this one? That's on my running bucket list. It'll be years until we emigrate though. I don't envy training in the weather you've had recently, my SiL's in Mississauga and I've seen all the photos on FB.

Have you got a VLM place then, orangeflutie? How exciting! Did you get a charity place or a ballot place? That's another on my bucket list!

SinglePringle Thu 06-Mar-14 16:35:18

Just back from a 5k run where I actively tried to go slightly slower in order to last longer. Only stopped 3 times and just for seconds only - also had to in order to not get squashed by cars! And do you know, I do think it was slightly easier. My recovery time has most certainly be quicker.

But the best thing about running? Free therapy. I can get quite anxious about things but my god, running can help clear the head.

runningforme Thu 06-Mar-14 19:48:45

Hi EauRouge no it's this one

Yup it's been pretty tough going, but I feel very proud of myself for persevering through it - I'm a true Canadian now it seems lol!

Sirzy Thu 06-Mar-14 19:56:26

i love how busy this thread is at the moment, struggling to keep up though!

Eau - hope you feet are better soon

Single - thats what I love about running too, I love to solidarity of being out just me and my thoughts - not sure how that will fit in with 40,000 others in Manchester though!

Running for me - I have just got myself some kettlebells in the last few weeks. Keep trying to mix up my exercises to keep myself going!

Jeregrette Thu 06-Mar-14 20:21:55

Rest day for me. I have a slight ache in my knee that comes on quite often when sitting. Do you think this sounds like runners knee. I have previously had a bit of ITB syndrome which used to come on mid run but i think I've got ri of that thanfully. I'm sure ITB never troubles you when you aren't running (i prepare to be corrected)

orangeflutie Thu 06-Mar-14 21:13:06

EauRouge I've got a ballot place this year in the VLM as it was my fifth attempt but I'm raising money for charity too. I did get a golden bond place a few years ago but had to pull out due to injury so really hoping I stay injury free this year. Hope your foot gets better soon

I agree about the headspace when running it's great to have the time to de-stress. I run on my own mostly but it was lovely to run in a crowd on Sunday and good practice for next month.

Bollard Fri 07-Mar-14 14:40:29

Runningforme could you tell me about your kettlebells workout please? DH has bought a few but I'm not entirely sure what would be a good workout to do with them.

I ran 5k this morning in 39 minutes. Eaurouge the app tells me when I pass each KM mark, and what my time per KM was. I find that really motivating, but I also love listening to my running playlist. There's a section of faster songs and I'm getting fit enough now to up my pace for them, so I reckon I'll jig the playlist around and find some more higher bpm song to try to help me speed up. I run along the beach, and like orange and sirze I love having that time to myself to let me thoughts and stresses slosh around my head. Beautiful sunny day today, really enjoyed my run smile

ThursdayLast Fri 07-Mar-14 15:04:37

Bollard, you can find some KB workouts on I have a puny 6kg, but it's good enough to mix things up a bit.
Today I got my brand new baby carrier, so my rest day involved lugging my 11mo for an hour around the woods grin

theladylovescupcakes Fri 07-Mar-14 19:00:29

Hi all! Newbie here but figured with so many runners in the one place I might strike it lucky with some advice!

I'm looking for sweat wicking pants for exercising in. Any suggestions please? I've been couch to 5k-ing on and off for ages, and can run for 25 mins, but 12min 45sec mile. Going to try and work on my speed next, rather than focussing on minutes run. Do it on a treadmill, which prob doesn't help, as I settle into a rhythm. Will have a good read of the rest of the thread now!

Thanks in advance.

Jeregrette Fri 07-Mar-14 21:19:20

thelady I find Karrimor a really good brand. You often get good discounts at sportsdirect. I have capri pants for racing and running tights for training. Not sure they are made of wicking fabric though unlike the running tops.

OhOneOhTwoOhThree Fri 07-Mar-14 22:10:08

Jeregrette - I was reading somewhere recently (I think on a kit review site when looking for the trail shoes I still haven't got round to buying) that Sports direct have bought Karrimor, which explains why they discunt the stuff so heavily. I have some of their stuff, though my Asics long tights and Nike capris are both better quality and have lasted longer then my Karrimor tights did.

OhOneOhTwoOhThree Fri 07-Mar-14 22:13:13

I have not run all week - crazy busy at work - but did make a point of walking to a further-away tube station a couple of evenings. Parkrun tomorrow and a 10K on Sunday.

I have discovered a wonderful way of carb loading - Tesco everyday value flapjack. 60p for a big trayful, which is supposed to be 8 portions. The plan was to cut it up and freeze it but somehow I managed to eat it all.

meerschweinchen Fri 07-Mar-14 22:28:54

May I join in? I used to run a bit, but haven't done much for the last 3-4 years. I have a six month old baby and really want to get fit again. I always find I'm more motivated if I have something to aim for...there's a half - marathon I'm keen to do in September. Would this be a realistic goal if I started running again now or is it a stupid idea? I probably walk 2-3 miles a day, so I'm not totally unfit, but not really very fit either, if that makes sense!

OhOneOhTwoOhThree Fri 07-Mar-14 22:31:46

I think that's completely do-able meer, especially if you have some base fitness. Welcome to the thread!

Jeregrette Fri 07-Mar-14 22:55:36

Definitely doable. I trained for a half marathon in about 4/5 weeks ( though it's not really safe so I wouldn't recommenced it!) I had been running for a while before that but not consistently and had a lot of time off through one injury or another.

meerschweinchen Fri 07-Mar-14 23:05:45

Ooh thank you for the replies! Could certainly not manage it in a few weeks(!), far too unfit for that, but would be nice to think it's achievable. Better dig out my trainers and get started.

EATmum Fri 07-Mar-14 23:29:06

Hello all. Good weekend plans for running? My goal is to do a 12/13 mile run tomorrow, which will be my last long run before my half marathon (two weeks and two days, not that I'm counting ...). Ran 4 miles today to test out my knee which was painful earlier this week - and was ok again today after lots of work with a roller (ow). So looking forward to this race being over - I know it's a shame to think like that but I don't like the feeling of running because I have to; I want to run again because I want to!!

woodrunner Sat 08-Mar-14 07:16:00

Running today. Probably about 5-6k with local running club. But they use roads (don't like to get muddy - what is that about?) and I prefer being in the woods with mud up to my waist.

Is there any difference in which surface makes you fitter - hard or soft?

ThursdayLast Sat 08-Mar-14 10:50:54

Just back from my second parkrun, by my own timekeeping I was faster, but I always forget to turn Runkeeper off straight away.
DP, DS and the dog came to have a wander around and meet me at the finish line, it was lovely (and we stopped for macdonalds breakfast on the way home blush).

Hope everybody else manages to make the most of this lovely weather

OhOneOhTwoOhThree Sat 08-Mar-14 10:58:55

Parkrun today and a 10K tomorrow smile.

It's lovely outside isn't it. I'd be tempted to get out on my bike this afternoon if I wasn't running again tomorrow.

SinglePringle Sat 08-Mar-14 11:05:23

Boo. Can't run today as my ankle won't take it - even strapped. Going to swim instead. I love it but wish it had the 'just get up and go-ness' of running.

Happy running y'all!

NinetyNinePercentTroll Sat 08-Mar-14 11:18:20

Morning all. Just bashed out 8.5k on the road for the first time in ages (I'm normally a treadmill girl). It was harrrrd but good. Went for a fitting for new runners yesterday so wanted to christen them grin - Brooks Ravenna's. Like running on clouds and lovely and supportive for my high arches.

Fishandjam Sat 08-Mar-14 14:19:15

Afternoon all! I managed another PB at Parkrun today, almost a minute faster than my last PB a fortnight ago grin So maybe a sub-30 minute one isn't such an unrealistic fantasy after all. Developed some mild achilles/inner shin pain during the second lap though, hope that doesn't come back!

Hello to all new folk, and good luck to those doing HMs tomorrow (especially my boss, doing the Cambridge one).

Newrowsees Sat 08-Mar-14 15:43:26

Hallo fellow runners! Does anyone else run home from work? I have a 14k commute from central London and a 90 minute window to do it in. I'm still trying to work out the logistics (clothes / bags / whether to get the train or bus for part of the journey). Any strategy tips?

I'm not quite sure what you are asking theladylovescupcakes. I wear running leggings, karriomor as others have said, they are usually pretty moist by the time I finish running so guess they are!

Is it good flapjack OhOneOhTwoOhThree? I like flap jack but usually with big fat oats and very syrupy smile

It would have been too much for me meerschweinchen, I walked a lot before I started running but I wasn't that fit. It is totally doable for some though. When do you have to enter the half by? I did the c25k in jan-march was running 30mins 3x a week until July and then joined Running club who encouraged me to increase my distance but I still didn't do much more than 6miles. There are training plans out there that take you from couch to half I'm sure and you do have 6 months.

I totally know what you mean EATmum but I also found having no goal made me feel guilty about running too much blush. Hope your 12-13 miles goes well!

Off road is tougher woodrunner but more gentle on your joints.

Sounds perfect ThursdayLast!

Hope it's feeling better soon SinglePringle and enjoy your swim.

You sound like a brooks rep NinetyNinePercentTroll!

Well done Fishandjam! Good luck to your boss. My dh works in Cambridge and has to work Sundays, he's getting someone else to go in for him who can cycle tomorrow as they're shutting roads from 4am!

Our parkrun birthday went well today and I'm planning 6miles with dogs tomorrow smile

NinetyNinePercentTroll Sat 08-Mar-14 16:49:39

Lol @ brooks rep, no I'm an nhs bod, cinnamon. My last pair of shoes were Nikes, I can't believe how much lighter these new ones are. Things have moved on a bit!

Sirzy Sat 08-Mar-14 16:54:14

not been able to get out to run for a few days, was going this morning but just as I was getting up to go DS woke with a croup attack so couldn't go. Fingers crossed I get out tomorrow!

My running tights are ascis and nike - nike ones are a bit thicker so ideal for colder days. Need to start thinking about getting some capri pants soon though I think. Got excited the other day when new socks were delievered blush and a running top which actually fits

Pantone363 Sat 08-Mar-14 17:06:57

Hello all

New runner signing in. Been running for a few years now but taken a 4 mth break. Decided to break in my new vibrams on a 3 mile run and cannow barely walk.

Signed up for a 10 mile in May, hoping to beat last years time.

NinetyNinePercentTroll Sat 08-Mar-14 17:09:38

I love the nike DriFit tights, sirzy. Ace.

Sirzy Sat 08-Mar-14 17:12:17

Thats what I have. Got them reduced from sports direct!

Welcome Pantone

NinetyNinePercentTroll Sat 08-Mar-14 17:25:34

I think I got my first pair for about £20 from amazon. They're so comfy, wash so well and last brilliantly that I've happily paid full price for them since.

ThursdayLast Sat 08-Mar-14 17:56:24

Twenty bloody eight, four bloody teen!!!

Sorry for going on, but if i write that anywhere else no one will know what I'm on about.

Fishandjam Sat 08-Mar-14 18:04:01

That's AMAZING Thursday! Bloody well done!!

Which Parkrun do you do, out of interest? I've got my eye on Lanhydrock for when we're on holiday in July.

ThursdayLast Sat 08-Mar-14 18:06:31

Thats the one!
It's lovely, one of my favourite NT houses anyway so I was delighted to find out about the pr there. The estate is beautiful.
Come run with meeeeee grin
(Thank you for humouring me btw smile)

EauRouge Sat 08-Mar-14 18:06:44

Thursday A new 5k PB? Well done, that's a fantastic time.

Well done fishandjam , just seen the results- fab time! You'll be sub-30 by the end of spring at this rate.

All this talk of new kit is a bad influence on me. I want to start running 4 or 5 times a week so I'll defo need a new top and I need some new shorts anyway...

OhOneOhTwoOhThree Sat 08-Mar-14 18:07:39

Well done Thursday grin. Come and tell us on the parkrun thread as well grin

Sirzy hope DS is OK. My DS2 had croup once and it was horrid.

cinnamon it is vg flapkjack - better than my home made attempts. all squishy and moist and syrupy. I checked the ingredients and they were otas, syrup, condensed milk and some other stuff, but it didn't look like a long list of artificial stuff.

Welcome Pantone.

Newrowsees when I was marathon training I ran into work in central London from Wimbledon once or twice. I left a set of work clothes, shower stuff etc at work the day before, and carried a small rucksack with my purse/keys/work ID/phone/drink. I think I'd be too tired to run home at the end of a working day.

Pringle hope your ankle feels better soon.

ThursdayLast Sat 08-Mar-14 18:11:28

Oh yeah, I forgot about the parkrun thread.
I've looked longingly at that in the past,

Fishandjam Sat 08-Mar-14 18:18:03

I'm not humouring you at all Thursday, I managed 33:52 (or something) and felt like I was going to throw up! We've been to Lanhydrock already (not for running) when we were on hols last year - we go to a place near Wadebridge - but it was in all that cold weather in April and it was bloody perishing. I really want to see the gardens in full bloom rather than sulking in the mud!

Sorry to hear about the croup sirzy, I hope he gets better soon.

Sirzy Sat 08-Mar-14 18:24:08

He gets it a lot, part and parcel of his asthma - just likes keeping me on my feet!

Well done on the personal bests! I need to get faster!

Sirzy Sat 08-Mar-14 18:24:42

Eau - I don't know what is wrong with me, I have found myself looking for running kit before pretty dresses and things now!

WipsGlitter Sat 08-Mar-14 18:28:08

Just been out for the gust time in six shocked months. Feel a bit wobbly. Did week five of c25k. Main problem is my feet. I've new trainers and the soles of my feet were agony.

ThursdayLast Sat 08-Mar-14 18:31:10

Poor mini Sirzy. And poor sirzy too, sounds like hard work for parents too.
I agree with you sirzy and eau, just this very evening I have been perusing bday presents for DS and sports direct. I spend more time in my kit these days than pretty dresses!
Fish, I'm glad you love it too! And in all seriousness, when it gets closer to the time, if you want to run together I'm always up for meeting up smile

meerschweinchen Sat 08-Mar-14 19:17:46

cinnamon I don't know when I have to enter the half by. Entries haven't even opened yet, so i'm hoping I've got a while. I've decided to aim to run 3 times a week to start with, and I guess I'll just see how I go. Does anyone follow any particular plan they can recommend? I've used a couple of different ones in the past and found they helped, but can't remember which ones!

Thursday congrats on your pb. I'd love to do a sub 30 mins, but never managed it yet. Will take me a very long time to get there - if ever! Stupid question - I've heard of parkruns, but don't really know what they are. Can anyone enlighten me?

EauRouge Sat 08-Mar-14 19:27:40

Parkruns are timed 5k runs. They're free to do and they're not that serious. Have a look on the website, there might be one near you. Can't link as I'm on my phone, think it is

ThursdayLast Sat 08-Mar-14 19:31:57

parkrun linky

Thank you v much - I have been running for over two years (with a pregnancy in the middle) so I have built up vvvvv slowly grin
The first Lanhydrock parkrun was in Jan this year, hence why I've never tested myself before.

Sirzy Sat 08-Mar-14 19:51:40

Meer - runkeeper have some training plans you can do through the app a friend of mine likes them. I seem to struggle following any traning plan personally!

Fishandjam Sat 08-Mar-14 20:17:47

Ouch ouch ouch. Very sore patch on inside of left shin - almost too tender to touch. Will need to keep an eye on that...

Can I ask you ladies something? Are you all runners of many years, or if not have you always been sporty in some other way? Or is anyone an ex-couch potato?

Sirzy Sat 08-Mar-14 20:24:18

I am very much an ex-couch potato!

This time last year I was 6 stone overweight and couldn't run to the end of the street!

OhOneOhTwoOhThree Sat 08-Mar-14 20:32:27

Sirzy that's a great achievement.

I was keen but rubbish at sport at school - I got picked for the hockey team because I turned up for training, not because of any innate skill.

I played a bit of squash in my 20's, dabbled in aerobics, yoga, swimming, tennis etc.

Then met DH, got married and had DCs, and did very little for about 10 years. I started going to a gym maybe 7 or 8 years ago after one of the DCs pointed out my squishy tummy.

Then DH got a job overseas. DCs and I stayed back in the UK to finish the school year, so to fill his time DH took up cycling and running again (he'd also had his couch potato years). By the time I joined him he was hooked. I was jealous of his new-found fitness, found a C25K thread on MN and the rest is history grin.

Me too, started c25k in jan 2012 and lost 5 1/2 st nov2011-August2012. Hated pe at school, had a spell of about 6 months once doings aerobics with a friend about 10 years ago but otherwise nothing but walking to school and walking dogs. There's a lot of ladies at my club who've been running since they were 8 apart from having babies but also others who've started in the last 5-10 years.

NinetyNinePercentTroll Sat 08-Mar-14 20:49:55

fishandjam, I'm an on-again-off-again runner. Was very into it a few years ago and then went quiet about 3 months after my running buddy gave up. Took it up again last year and am doing better than ever and have discovered that I really prefer to run alone.

NinetyNinePercentTroll Sat 08-Mar-14 20:51:44

Couch spud wise, yes probably, I've been daddy about exercise before but running is the on,y thing that I've stuck to properly.

Sirzy Sat 08-Mar-14 20:52:17

Thanks ohone still got 2 stone to lose according to dreaded BMI - but in size 10 jeans today for the first time ever so not too worried about that, over 4 stone gone never to come back and much fitter than ever before! Injury when I was 13 meant I had gone from 13 - 29 doing pretty much no exercise!

Well done Cinnamon!

NinetyNinePercentTroll Sat 08-Mar-14 20:52:55

FFs, iPad typos. Sorry. FADDY & only. I hereby apologise for my crap posts on MN as a result of my iPad & my proof reading laziness

Jeregrette Sat 08-Mar-14 22:02:52

"Are you all runners of many years, or if not have you always been sporty in some other way? Or is anyone an ex-couch potato?"

I wasn't very good at sport at school (always picked last) but as a family we always loved to watch sport particularly tennis and athletics. I didn't do much exercise apart from walking throughout my twenties. In my early thirties I started walking to and from work every day continued walking throughout my first pregnancy.

Didn't get to do much solo walking once my DD was born but spent a lot of time pushing her around trying to get her to sleep. After the Olympic summer I was inspired to take up running as I wanted to continue the feel good factor that I'd experienced watching sport all summer. Did my first HM a year later after some on and off training. (I was troubled by injury in the early days) Now I try to take things a bit slower. I'd love to get really good at this sport (well at least be classed as good for age).

Jeregrette Sat 08-Mar-14 22:08:03

Oh and did a 10k this evening ( final preparation for 10k next week). Ran the first 5k too fast (25:14) so was flagging by 7k. Took a gel 20 minutes in (practising fuelling strategy) and I did keep going but last 3k was really hard. Finished just under 57 minutes. I'm aiming for under an hour so was really pleased.

I probably should have gone a lot slower in training- I know you are not supposed to train at race pace but sometimes I just want to do a dry run

It is slightly risky now so easy runs for me this week

ThursdayLast Sat 08-Mar-14 22:13:43

I was ace at sports at school (looong tome ago).
Then I did drinking and smoking and uni etc.
Always had a physical job so never put on weight but when I decided to get more active as a new years resolution in 2012 I to ed up brillliantly.
Started running (v small intervals using micoach) when clocks went forward in the spring.
Wondered in summer 2012 why a particular run was so bloody difficult, the got BFP a week later!
Started back in summer 2013, and have got better and better and better quicker than I ever could have imagined grin

Jeregrette Sat 08-Mar-14 22:22:32

"Ran the first 5k too fast (25:14) "

Oops in my dreams- more like 27:14!!

Fishandjam Sat 08-Mar-14 22:26:49

Oh yes, meant to say - bloke with buggy came second at our parkrun today.

We have a lady with a buggy who I have to say I'm glad is slower than me blush don't knew how she does it though!

EauRouge Sun 09-Mar-14 07:01:26

I don't know how he gets the buggy up that hill at the end, and then through all that mud.

I was looking forward to a run today but I woke up in the night with a very sore toenail sad So chiropodist for me tomorrow. DH is starting his new job tomorrow and the office is in the same unit as a chiropodist so I'll just book in there.

Fishandjam Sun 09-Mar-14 07:08:04

Different route Eau. Congrats on your DH's new job!

Thursday, I'll definitely at least meet you for a post-run cuppa - thanks!

TheDietStartsTomorrow Sun 09-Mar-14 07:08:57

Hi all, marking my place. I used to run and really enjoyed it. Then stopped for months and have only just started again. Doing a C210K plan at the moment but I hope I'll have done a half marathon by the end of the year.

orangeflutie Sun 09-Mar-14 11:20:31

Hi all Just done 15 miles this morning in lovely sunshine. Was supposed to be 14 and a half but started off and realised I'd forgotten my water bottle so had to nip back for it lol. Very slow at end but glad I managed it anyway.

Interesting reading about sporty versus couch potato. I was never good at sport at school, usually picked last for teams. The only thing I enjoyed was tennis which I played a bit outside school. I've always been active though and did aerobics and gym and then treadmill running in my twenties. Went out for a road run one day after having my three dds and have never looked back. I've been hooked on running ever since despite a few injuries along the way. I'm not a fast runner though I tend to do about a 10 to 11 min mile. Is anyone here super fast?

EATmum Sun 09-Mar-14 11:59:22

Like you orange I'm between 10-11 mins a mile. I did a trial half marathon run yesterday - very slow by the end but psychologically I know now that I can run the distance. Achy legs today, but relaxing brew and off to the park in the sunshine with the kids shortly. Lovely!

Sirzy Sun 09-Mar-14 12:00:56

I'm about 11 min miles at the moment. Much improved on the 14 min miles when I started though

NinetyNinePercentTroll Sun 09-Mar-14 17:30:22

I can categorically say that I am NOT even remotely fast, orange. I am probably the slowest because I walk/run at the mo (due to training plan). I average about 12-13 mins/mile. More tortoise than hare. Maybe that should be running thread name...

NinetyNinePercentTroll Sun 09-Mar-14 17:31:48

Sorry I meant maybe that shoud be my running thread username

Sirzy Sun 09-Mar-14 17:45:45

today was a 10k race locally which was full before I realised I could have done it - entries open for next year next week, wonder if I will be able to do a sub 60min 10k by this time next year? Distance will be fine but time will be the challenge

Fishandjam Sun 09-Mar-14 18:15:56

I'm not fast either 99%! Even less so for the next week or so, I suspect - majorly sore shins today after yesterday's parkrun efforts sad. I'll give it a few days and see how things are, but I really hope they ease off as I don't want to lose fitness.

I'm an ex-couch spud, a PE dodger all through school. I did a few odd sports at uni (fencing mainly) but I wasn't any good, I just joined for the post-session beers.

Sirzy Sun 09-Mar-14 18:33:58

oh no fish, hope they feel better soon

NinetyNinePercentTroll Sun 09-Mar-14 18:46:38

I was a definite PE dodger at school, too. Of the lazy beanpole variety, i.e. my mindset was, "I'm a size 8, so why do I need to?". The health benefits and what years of doing nothing might actually be doing under the skin hadn't really occurred/concerned me. Fast forward a few number of years and I started to wonder. The unexpected endorphin and shopping side effects were a bonus.

Did you go a bit hard at your PR then or did you have a niggle in your shin that you've accidentally aggravated? Hope it recovers soon. Rest as much as possible and if you do have to go out (or start to feel better), stick to well spaced, gentle recovery runs and lots of anti-inflammatories, would be my advice.

NinetyNinePercentTroll Sun 09-Mar-14 18:49:40

Actually, I'd just pop ibuprofen, smear a load of diclofenac gel on it and run as normal, but I do recognise that makes me a moron. Don't do that.

Welcome Thedietstartstomorrow!

I run usually 9-10min miles orangeflutie so not super quick.

Hope your shins are better soon Fishandjam!

I did a lovely 6 miles today, what a beautiful day! Greyhound was really knackered but whippet came home and chased a ball around the garden like a loon!

meerschweinchen Sun 09-Mar-14 19:51:39

I went for my first run today! Ran for just over 20 mins and now ache quite a lot! Realise it's going to take me a long time to get properly fit again. It felt really good to be running again, but coming on here and realising that the rest of you are running up to 15 miles makes me feel a bit embarrassed at how little I can manage.

Sirzy Sun 09-Mar-14 19:59:32

Don't be embarassed, everyone has to start somewhere! When I started I couldn't even run for 20 minutes. 5 miles is still my limit and I have only done that once!

NinetyNinePercentTroll Sun 09-Mar-14 20:23:25

20mins is bloody good going for a first outing!

orangeflutie Sun 09-Mar-14 20:25:06

Meers I don't usually run 15 miles, it's totally new territory for me. This time last year I would just do a couple of 4 mile runs a week so don't feel bad.

I'm having to push it at the moment and it's quite scary at times tbh.

Lost you all! Did 6 miles today which I'm so pleased about as i had a mental block at 4, with hills too.
Legs have basically stopped working after a day running round with the kids though!

Fishandjam Sun 09-Mar-14 22:06:36

meers, I can only do about 5-6k before I run out of steam. And this time last year I could only run the distance between lampposts grin

Well done on everyone's sunshine runs.

Eau, how's your toenail feeling?

Sirzy Mon 10-Mar-14 10:04:42

5.75km done in 39 mins. Happy with that! Sub 30 5k may just be possible one day

ThursdayLast Mon 10-Mar-14 17:00:14

7miles in 67 mins.
Glooooorious day for running down here, warm enough for me to feel thirsty whilst running for maybe the first time ever!

ThursdayLast Mon 10-Mar-14 17:01:28

Well done sirzy!
Even more impressive in the heat today
(Comparative heat I mean, obviously!)

Sirzy Mon 10-Mar-14 17:06:00

Well done Thursday smile

Wasn't too hot up here, just a nice temp slight breeze and clear skies - best weather I have ran in yet and loved it, plan of running as much as possible this week while the weather lasts

ThursdayLast Mon 10-Mar-14 18:30:12

Me too, the sunshine just makes it so much better.
Also two enormous puddles that covered the whole road on a couple of my routes gave dried up! Spring MUST be on the way smile

Sirzy Mon 10-Mar-14 18:43:11

Always best when you don't have to jump puddles! I am waiting to be able to run on grass without getting covered in mud!

MrsFrankTurner Mon 10-Mar-14 18:55:57

Wasn't it glorious running out there today smile
I was out aiming for 18 miles but got 13 miles in & realised I was a. lost having taken a wrong turn & b. only had 10% battery left on my Iphone so rang DH as an SOS to rescue me before my phone completely died & he wouldn't be able to find me without my gpsshock

However, not a complete disaster as I did the 13 miles in 2 hours so on track for a sub 4 hr marathon plus I felt strong that I could keep going with my new fuelling strategy so it's all good grin
I have now, finally, invested in a gps watch! What's rather embarrassing is I wasn't lost on some trail run somewhere in a forest or mountain but just in between manchester & stockport shockshockshockshock I am NEVER allowed near trail runsgrin

Sirzy Mon 10-Mar-14 19:01:55

ooh another northern runner!

I managed to get lost in the town I have lived since I was 2 today blush must have been the day for getting lost!

MrsFrankTurner Mon 10-Mar-14 19:06:23

Haha -it's the sun! Sent me a bit doolally!
I was so busy running along enjoying the beautiful sunshine & smiling at all the happy 'out in the sunshine' people I got confused grin DH found me at tesco looking lost �� I blame the unseasonable heat -that wouldn't have happened if it had been raining -I'm used to running in the rain!

Jeregrette Mon 10-Mar-14 21:19:41

Any one here doing a 10K Sunday?

Not sure how much running to do this week. Was thinking just an easy 5k Tuesday and Thursday. I don't want to risk an injury this close and when I go out at the moment I really have to reign myself in so thought it be best to stay well rested and hope the training benefit of the past few weeks comes through so I peak at the weekend!

zombiesheep Mon 10-Mar-14 21:32:33

Hello everyone, my first time on the exercise topics and this is exactly the thread I was after.

I am hoping to run the marathon next year. So far I can run over 5k so I'm not doing too shabby. I am 19 and joined a gym to tone up and lose weight. At the moment my running is just done on the treadmill but hopefully tomorrow I'm going to get out and run smile

Just thought I'd say hi!

zombiesheep Mon 10-Mar-14 21:33:30

Also those that run over 10/15 miles, do you stop and take breaks? I wish I was that fit

ThursdayLast Mon 10-Mar-14 21:33:44

Hi zombiesheep,
Get outside while the weathers nice grin

Sirzy Mon 10-Mar-14 21:37:10

Jeregrette - no advice but that sounds sensible to me!

Hi Zombie! I much prefer running outside even when its raining I would rather run outside than on a treadmill!

The weather was fab Sunday but not great today here sad

grin MrsFrankTurner!

I am Jeregrette but I did a half marathon two weeks ago so I shall stick with my normal weekly running as a 10k is a lot less than I've been training for iyswim but I am not one for following plans so you're probably right!

Hi Zombiesheep! I don't take breaks on longer runs but I know lots that will do and also practise their water/food stops too. Get outside it's fantastic!

zombiesheep Mon 10-Mar-14 21:46:55

Thanks all, will I get to that stage then? Running with no breaks? Do you all run quite fast? I'm quite slow I think.

Sorry for all the questions grin

Definitely agree that running outside is better, a few years ago it was all I did! I do need a good app on my iPod to tell me how many miles I've done.

MerryBuddha Mon 10-Mar-14 21:49:23

Woke this morning to legs desperate to be running!!! Unfortunately earliest opportunity was tonight in the dark, but it made me get my fast feet out (hate running in the dark on my own) 5k 24 minutes!!!

Legs still asking for more, so will try and fit in a run during my lunch break tomorrow!

Hi to Zombiesheep and waves to everyone else!!!

Sirzy Mon 10-Mar-14 21:49:34

I use runkeeper to track my runs.

I run slow and not very far but I am out running and enjoying it and getting better with time

That's fab MerryBuddha!

I think it's personal preference zombiesheep, some of the people I run with have done loads of marathons and still stop regularly during training. I don't of I'm on my own but I will if the person I'm running with wants to. A bit further up thread quite a few of us were discussing pace, I tend to average 9-10 min per mile.

zombiesheep Mon 10-Mar-14 22:51:27

That's what I do Sirzy I enjoy running and don't think of it as a race! Can't wait to get outside now!!

Thanks cinnamon I'll just see how far I get tomorrow and will check further back the thread!

Thanks all smile

Did a lovely 5.5miles at 6 this morning, first run on my own for absolutely ages! Also, a while ago when my dog was in season we were followed by a ridgeback several times, we met him today actually with an owner and I now have the guys number. He still doesn't see why he needs a collar and tag as he's microchipped which made me a bit angry but he did say text him when she's in season again and he'll walk a different way hmm

Jeregrette Tue 11-Mar-14 21:23:44

That's a great time MerryBuddha. How long have you been running. I'd love to break 25 mins for 5k this year.

Went out for an easy 5k today after 2 days rest. Knee is aching a lot so I'm tempted to rest out the week until 10k on Sunday. I'll be gutted if I've peaked too soon and got myself a bad case of runners knee.

OhOneOhTwoOhThree Tue 11-Mar-14 21:54:25

I hope to run tomorrow morning - there's more chance of it happening if I tell you all smile

meerschweinchen Tue 11-Mar-14 22:37:36

ohone that's why I first joined the thread! I feel once I've told people, I've got to do it! I still ache after my first run on Sunday. I'm looking forward to also being able to call it 'an easy 5k' or a 'lovely 5.5 miles!' But even when I'm fit, I'll never manage the times some of you are doing. I'm seriously impressed.

Sirzy Tue 11-Mar-14 22:45:44

Hope your knee is better quickly jeregrette

spacechimp Wed 12-Mar-14 10:53:49

Hello all. Have posted on the parkrun thread but thought I would ask here whether anyone has had this. I started running last summer, just doing parkrun each week, but did my first race in February, a 7km one, which I really enjoyed so have entered a few 10km races, the first of which is a week on Sunday. I ran 10km on Monday evening when I got in from work and although the run itself was fine I had a horrible stomach ache afterwards which came on about 10 minutes after finishing and lasted all evening. I still felt like I had indigestion the next morning. It felt like trapped wind but also a bit crampy and it was just really uncomfortable and completely ruined the good feeling I'd had from running that distance for the first time

It probably didn't help that I ate dinner about 20 minutes after getting in from the run which then just sat there waiting to be digested. I know I can't really eat much before running, and so only have a banana about an hour and a half before running in the mornings. When I ran on Monday at 6pm I hadn't eaten anything since lunch at 1.30.

I had been wavering about whether to sign up for a half marathon if the 10km went well, but I couldn't run that distance without having eaten more than a banana, and really don't want to feel rubbish for hours afterwards. Has anyone else experienced this, and if so how did you deal with it?

space I sometimes get bad stomach cramps after running as well, and absolutely cannot eat beforehand. I try and drink lots of water and eat bland carby things but it seems quite random when it comes and goes.

Just back from a nice 2 miles in the sun, fastest time yet, 9.30/mile average, with the second mile at 9.05. Getting quicker!

ThursdayLast Wed 12-Mar-14 12:50:35

Sorry spacechimp, thats not something I've experienced and it sounds pretty rotten. Maybe try the 10k and see how that feels?

I just did a lovely 8.5miles - my longest run yet - although my lower back and knees were starting to complain on the hime stretch. I think I might look into local HMs later in the year. It felt doable today.

So I've had a light lunch post-run, I'm watching the clock to see when my carb cravings hit. Instead of denying them (and therefore eating more but snackily) I'm going to allow myself a bit of toast grin

OhOneOhTwoOhThree Wed 12-Mar-14 13:03:09

The sun is finally out, I've done what I needed to do this morning and I'm going to reward myself with a run grin

The old me would have had a bar of chocolate instead grin grin

ThursdayLast Wed 12-Mar-14 14:10:44

I have often wished I could upload a pic to the running thread, never more so than today...

OhOneOhTwoOhThree Wed 12-Mar-14 14:14:37

Gorgeous! I was thinking the same as I ran through my local country park which was full of blossom and smelling far nice than usual smile

5 miles done in a smidge under 50 minutes smile

Love it ThursdayLast!!!!

MrsFrankTurner Wed 12-Mar-14 15:37:27

Rubbing pics would be lovely smile running at 6am usually means I get some nice sunrise photos!

Spacechimp-my stomach is AWFUL! I regularly start to cramp during a run & have to be super careful what I eat when I get in! I have found my stomach seems to react when I really exert myself (speed or hills) but I can go, literally, for hours at a steady constant speed and be fine. I have found fuelling myself with liquid instead of solid is kinder to my stomach so I drink a homemade honey, salt & orange juice mix on a v long run (75 mins plus). After most runs I will have a fruit & yoghurt smoothie waiting for me (thanks DH!) or I'll drink chocolate soy milk.....that's usually me done until 3 hours later; not ideal but I throw up or get an upset stomach if I try anything more solid before everything has settled again! Try different things -everyone is different :-) I have just discovered Trek protein bars which I haven't reacted badly to yet! I had one this morning after a fast 5 miles & stomach was fine, I'm going to try one again post long run on Saturday and see how my stomach copes with itsmile

Sounds like your running is going great thoughsmile

MrsFrankTurner Wed 12-Mar-14 15:38:29

rubbing pics that would be, ummmm, different!!!! RUNNING -goddam spellcheck!

Sirzy Wed 12-Mar-14 16:55:41

Fab pic, we need more pics!

Blatherskite Wed 12-Mar-14 17:03:12

Place marking to come and say "Hi" later. I did my first half marathon on Sunday and am beginning to feel like an actual runner rather than a pretender smile

I do my second half in 5 weeks! shock

EauRouge Wed 12-Mar-14 17:05:29

Yes, would love to see photos of where everyone else runs- love the goats! Are they stacking goats?

It'll be a while longer before I can get any photos but I have got a chiropodist (or possibly podiatrist- what's the difference?) appointment on Saturday morning so hopefully I'll be able to run again after that.

Sirzy Wed 12-Mar-14 17:06:57

Hi Blake - well done on the half maraathon, I am a long way from that!

Don't think my runs would make good photos - residental roads and industrial estates!

I am currently full of a cold so no run for me today. Hope your foot is better soon Eau.

vladthedisorganised Wed 12-Mar-14 17:13:18

Hi everyone - may I join you?

I've just bitten the bullet and entered my first ever half-marathon: the last race I entered was a 5k so this will be something to aim for. Just hoping to get around it - not ready to break any records yet!

I love the goat photo Thursday!

ThursdayLast Wed 12-Mar-14 17:21:37

Thank you everybody! Was surreal even for rural Cornwall.
Here is another time I was keen to share with you before, but couldn't...
(My apologies for spamming)

Sirzy Wed 12-Mar-14 17:23:10

welcome Vlad. When is your half marathon?

ThursdayLast Wed 12-Mar-14 17:24:39

And now that has finally posted....
Sorry you're not well Sirzy, hope you feel better soon.
Eau, good luck with the foot doc, hope it is productive. Also, I have no idea about goats!

And hello blathers and vlad smile

I haven't ever suffered cramps but I vary how soon after a run I feel like eating spacechimp. I tend not to eat while running but have found when running longer races a jelly baby chewed up a bit and kept in my cheek is a good way to get some sugar in. I need to be hydrated but don't worry too much about calories. I agree you just need to play around with what you do and find what works.

Hi vladthedisorganised! I'd only done two 10k raves before my first half.

Hope it goes well EauRouge and I have no idea the difference but I'll ask my chiropodist Friday wink

Is that your reluctant dog ThursdayLast?

spacechimp Wed 12-Mar-14 21:44:44

Thanks so much to everyone for all the advice about when and what to eat and hopefully avoiding digestive issues. Will try out some of the liquid fuelling options you use MrsFrankTurner and just keep experimenting. You'll all made me think I shouldn't give up on the potential half marathon goal yet. Will see how the 10km goes. At least it is in the morning so should be ok. I've got another one in May, also in the morning, but then an evening one in June which I'll have to think more carefully about. It's weird, as I've had occasional cramps before but they've always gone pretty quickly and I'm usually ready for food after parkrun!

How did the half marathon go Blatherskite? And when is yours Vlad?
Would have been nice to run today - weather was lovely

CQ Wed 12-Mar-14 22:38:40

Hi all, I've been lurking for a bit and have been prompted to jump in by the photo of the reluctant Thursdaydog - I'm so glad I don't have the only one like this! I've 2 dogs, one loves running and the other hates it after about 2 miles so I have to drag her the rest of the way. If I can let her off the lead she trots along quite happily but she just HAS to go at her own pace. Some days I don't have time to run and walk them separately so we go for a quick drag instead!

Hi Sirzy - I was on the guinea pigs thread for a while. Lost my mojo big time but am now back in my stride, running 3 -4 times a week and entered for a 10k on 23rd March. Good to see you're still making fantastic progress - and getting faster grin

MerryBuddha Wed 12-Mar-14 23:21:59

Jeregrette, on and off (a lot of off) for about 3 years!!! Never thought of myself as fast!! But happy to do long distance ie 5 miles regularly, only when I started entering Race for Life did I realised that I was faster than my peers (5'2, slightly overweight and middle aged)!!! I still prefer the gentle run across the countryside (with dog in tow) rather speed runs!! But each to there own.

Hi CQ, that's why I started taking mine too for time saving but actually they both love it! One will go further so if I'm doing a long run I do two loops and drop the greyhound home before going out again smile

I would also like to say that I have ever been to a rave and certain only not a 10k, blimmin phone!

It's soooo foggy here this morning, met my friend as usual and my hair was soaked when we got back, fringe dripping and the end of my ponytail really wet too, the air is soooo damp.

Sirzy Thu 13-Mar-14 07:41:34

Hi cq!

Foggy here too, still full of cold so no running here today sad hopefully back out tomorrow

Get well soon Sirzy!

ThursdayLast Thu 13-Mar-14 08:04:08

Morning all! You're v keen up and at 'em already today.
Rest day for me today, with pilates later.

Hi CQ, I'm glad the reluctant dog has served one useful purpose if he got you to de-lurk! That pic was taken on a particularly steep hill! If he's off the lead he trots along so slow that he's in danger of getting run over, and when he's on the lead I can practically feel the resentment flowing out of him...

vladthedisorganised Thu 13-Mar-14 09:43:09

Morning all!

My half-marathon is at the end of September so I'm hoping I have a bit of time to work up to it. I can currently manage 5 miles so working on gradually increasing my long runs over the next few months - have gone up from 3 miles on each run to 5 miles in about six weeks, which isn't too bad (by my standards anyway!).

I'm very slow on my long runs but managed some speed/ hill intervals the other day, so hoping that will help.

No running today - circuit training instead which will leave me shattered but happy!

Blatherskite Thu 13-Mar-14 10:09:42

The half marathon went well thank you spacechimp. I was absolutely petrified of doing it as I hadn't run longer than 7 miles since I tore my calf in early November last year and had had various illnesses and niggles in the meantime which had made training hard so I knew it was going to be very hard work. On the day, it wasn't as bad as I had expected and I pretty much sailed through up until about 7 miles. Between 7 and 8 went well but felt like 3 or 4 miles rather than just the one and then I was OK again up until the course started going uphill at mile 11 and then it got really hard and I got really, really miserable. I managed to run all but the huge-est of hills and finished 2 seconds under my PB for the distance at 2:13:32.

The heat didn't help as obviously all training I'd done had been in the cold and wet and all of a sudden it was about 19 degrees and baking hot and I was having to pour water over my head to cool me down! The support from the crowds and one of my running clubs was amazing though. One of my friends even turned up in running gear and did the last 5k with me which was really nice. There were loads of hugs at the end even though I was feeling rather shell shocked and then we all met up at the pub in our t-shirts and medals that evening and thoroughly dissected our runs without boring any non runners too much wink

Support from my other club was really lacking but at least helped me to finally make the decision to leave. Who knew swapping clubs was so complicated though!

I missed seeing OhOne there which was a shame but I'm sure I'll catch up with her again soon.

I've got 3 more halves booked for this year. One small local one in 5 weeks, the NSPCC one in July and the Nottingham half in September so hopefully now the first one is out of the way, I can stay healthy and injury free for long enough to get some proper training in and can improve on my time for the others.

Sirzy Thu 13-Mar-14 10:33:07

I have just found out there is a 10k locally at the end of april so may sign up for that as a bit of a practise run for Manchester!

Fishandjam Thu 13-Mar-14 21:47:23

Hi everyone! Reading all your running reports has really cheered me up, especially the doggy stories. Sadly I won't be running for a bit sad - saw a sports physio today about my shin pain and while he didn't think it was serious (as in stress fracture serious), he did think there was some significant damage to the fascia. He also roundly bollocked me for inadequate stretching (him: "I could crack rocks on your calf muscles." Me- "ooh, thanks!" Him: "it's not a compliment.") I then had a deep calf massage which almost made me cry blush.

No running until all the pain has gone. And I need to stretch stretch and stretch again, and then he'll sort out some exercises to strengthen my weedy left side (which is probably causing stress in lower left leg). When I do run I'm limited to 5k or less, and no efforts at PBs until doing 5k feels as easy as walking.

Still, if it keeps me running, it's all to the good. Feeling a bit grumpe though, and in need of gin.

sassytheFIRST Thu 13-Mar-14 22:14:19

Did my first run over 5k today. I was a bit of a wimp as I drove to the next town on the grounds that my town is vvvv hilly...but managed just over 5miles/8.5k in 53 mins. Really chuffed.

My knee is a bit sore tonight. Hope it'll sort itself out fast.

Blatherskite Thu 13-Mar-14 22:27:06

Rock hard muscles are for body builders Fish not runners smile

I always find it really odd when the physio wobbles my calves around after a massage to see how soft they've gone. It feels really odd. I've been doing some Yoga stretches recently - Downward Dog, Pigeon (or King Pigeon) and Runners Stretch are all really good and they've really helped me loosen up after runs.

My calves are super tight Fishandjam, if one of my kids/dogs sticks a limb in to climb on my lap it's excruciating! I don't stretch and I know have very right hamstrings too but while my body seems happy in its tight equilibrium I'm not going to mess with it! Hope that your massage helps and that following the guidelines keeps you running! Any ideas why you have a weedy left side?

NinetyNinePercentTroll Fri 14-Mar-14 08:22:57

Sassy, well done grin

A frustrating 9.7km treadmill (on random hill setting) for me last night as there was a power outage just as I was about to finish my planned 10k. My treadmill cut out and all went black. Gahhhhhh. Somewhat irritating not to hit that nice round 10.

Sirzy Fri 14-Mar-14 13:27:11

Only managed 2.5k today because of this cold but I ran the first 2k without stopping (normally I am a mix of walk and running) and both of them averaged 6.31min/km which is fast for me (normally around 6.50 - 7 min km)

Fish - hope you feel better soon

Well done Sassy, thats a great time!

99% - oh no frustrating!

sassytheFIRST Fri 14-Mar-14 16:25:00

99% how annoying. Maybe it sensed your nickname,

CQ Fri 14-Mar-14 17:21:31

Ran 7k yesterday with CQdogs - reluctant dog got let off the lead on the uphills (off road) which seemed to suit us all much better. CQdog2 does not get let off as she is a killer, but she loves to run and is quite useful in getting me up hills grin

My times are rubbish when running with them, as we have the inevitable sniff stops, but it's better than nothing when I'm short of time.

Today just walked as my feet ached in the night - I volunteer in our local Oxfam bookshop so was on my feet all afternoon after that longish run, so my poor little plates were a bit achy.

And the sunshine has prompted me to finally get into town and buy some new walking boots for my non-running days - so much better than wellies.

Glad you were feeling well enough for a run today, Sirzy - no matter how short. Sometimes just getting back out there helps to shake off the residue of a bug, it's very easy just to keep sniffling and feeling crap and lethargic.

99% I share your pain at the not-quite-10k - that would bug the OCD element in me too!

youbethemummylion Fri 14-Mar-14 17:31:32

Erm so today I discovered running on the treadmill is SO much easier than running outside! I was quite chuffed with how my training for the 10k was going and feeling quietly confident now I am not confident at all! All my training will have to be outside now I think. Oh also learned recently acquired rescue dog can't run! Had to get DH to pick is up in the car she refused point blank to move after we had finished and we were still a few miles from home! Poor thing.

Blatherskite Fri 14-Mar-14 17:37:20

Treadmill running is indeed much easier youbethemummylion The floor moves on a treadmill so all you have to do is move your legs rather than having to propel yourself forward. It is good training for 'proper' running though so I'm sure you'll be even fitter in no time.

You've just reminded me - my "Death before treadmill" t-shirt should arrive tomorrow grin

A friend and I went for a run at lunchtime today. Just a slow, short one as she is injured but we stopped at exactly 2 miles and walked the last little bit home so I feel your pain NinetyNinePercentTroll. We call that having to round up/down 'Runners OCD' and it is a killer smile

CannyBagOfTudor Fri 14-Mar-14 17:39:25

Youbethemummylion - have you tried ramping up the incline on the treadmill? Treadmill running is very easy on a flat incline but you can make it much more challenging if you need to.

youbethemummylion Fri 14-Mar-14 17:45:47

If I have to go back into the gym I shall play with the incline button but despite it being harder im a bit of a convert to outside running. We live next to the coast and the views today were lovely. Leaving the dog behind next time though!

youbethemummylion Fri 14-Mar-14 17:48:54

Oh and 99% that would have really wound me up I cant stand it when you cant get to a round figure!

Sirzy Fri 14-Mar-14 17:53:52

I much prefer outdoor running just can't get into it on the treadmill. That said when I go on holiday and I can't run I am planning on using the onboard gym a couple of times to go on the treadmill

Smilesandpiles Fri 14-Mar-14 18:02:24

I know you are all doing massively brilliant things so mine pales in comparison..but sod it.

I ran 5k for the first time today. EVER. I started to take running semi seriously just before the kids broke up for Christmas. I've not been exercising for around 6 weeks because I've been busy decorating. This was my first week back. I wasn't planning on doing it, it just happened. I was miles away, just day dreaming then I looked down and there it was 5.22. in 35 minutes.

One day I'll be like you lot (just not running outside yet)

ThursdayLast Fri 14-Mar-14 18:11:43

Well done smiles, any PB is just that, you should be v pleased.
Good to have you back youbemummy.

Well done everyone who got out today. My knees were not impressed with my run the other day, so they've had another day off today, planning a take-it-easy parkrun tomorrow.

ThursdayLast Fri 14-Mar-14 18:12:53

Btw, I've never ever run on a treadmill.
In fact I can't even remember when I might have been in a gym.
I run so that I don't have to go to a gym grin

Sirzy Fri 14-Mar-14 18:22:23

thursday, I hate gyms. Have tried a few times and quickly got bored!

NinetyNinePercentTroll Fri 14-Mar-14 19:38:13

I like the gym.

I try to mix TM & road and use the hill programmes to try to replicate but I find the TM easier on my knees and hips, plus, sometimes it's more practical (DD comes with me to gym - she uses other machines and also doesn't run at my pace).

NinetyNinePercentTroll Fri 14-Mar-14 19:46:07

Well done smiles smile

Jeregrette Fri 14-Mar-14 20:08:55

I'm so unused to/ bad at the treadmill that when I went to have my gait analysed, I was bent over hanging onto the bars on the front and it took me ages to realise they were waiting for me to let go. I didn't realise you weren't supposed to hang on for dear life!

sassytheFIRST Fri 14-Mar-14 20:31:56

I've been treadmill running for months, mainly to build my knees up and also cos I was scared of looking a twat if I ventured outside to run in public. It's got me in reasonable shape I think, I only started running outside about 2 weeks ago. Outside is so much more interesting though!

ThursdayLast Fri 14-Mar-14 20:42:57

Sassy, I did the opposite - running outside, on country lanes so no one could see me grin

Sirzy Sat 15-Mar-14 07:31:18

Just finished reading running like a girl - loved it.

Can't find it in the other thread but what were the other books people were reccomending?

ThursdayLast Sat 15-Mar-14 10:26:04

Yay, another lovely parkrun done!
Next week I'm back up time keeper -eek, seems like a lot of responsibility smile

feetheart Sat 15-Mar-14 10:26:41

4.8 miles in 50 mins this morning - a new PB and 55.3% on the age-graded thingie.
I've set myself the goal of getting to 60% in the next 6 mths - I have no idea if this is doable at all but wanted to challenge myself as I run on my own and can give most of you on here 10, 20 or even 30 years shock

Don't stress ThursdayLast, thumb presses button to start index finger presses button every time someone crosses the line smile

CoffeeBucks Sat 15-Mar-14 10:54:12

Hello <waves>

I started running two years ago & progress has been slow but steady - I was initially a bit prone to quitting if I had a bad run or a slow time. Since last summer I have been running more regularly and incorporating interval training to gain speed, as that is now my issue; I can run a fair distance but am slow & want to be faster. I am hovering at 31-32 mins for a 5k and really want to be sub 30.

I run 3-4 times a week, also do body pump & kettlebells, and cycle at the weekends and sometimes cycle to work as well.

ThursdayLast Sat 15-Mar-14 10:57:26

Well done feet heart!
Hi coffee!
Thank cinnamon, I was hoping it was going to be something like that grin I'm actually looking forward to chatting properly with some of the people that run it. And cheering everyone on down the finish straight!

youbethemummylion Sat 15-Mar-14 11:09:32

Yay a PB today of 5k in 39mins!!!!!! I know loads of you are faster but im still a bit chuffed with myself!

EauRouge Sat 15-Mar-14 11:14:22

Well done on the PB! Sod how fast everyone else is, a PB is a PB.

Been to the podiatrist who says my toenail will get better on its own and I'm fine to go running as long as I keep an eye on it. I can't go today but hopefully tomorrow, if DH's lurgy clears up a bit.

HalleLouja Sat 15-Mar-14 11:16:21

I am not sure if I have posted in this thread before. I finished the c25k a couple of months ago and have mainly been working on 5k. Though by start of June am running 10k so now trying to build up.

Anyways the other day I had the best run ever. Except my GPS didn't work. I plotted in on runkeeper but think that over egged my run. Oh well it has given me lots of confidence and think it was 4 miles or thereabout.

I am starting to enjoy running a bit now especially as I am getting faster and stronger.

HalleLouja Sat 15-Mar-14 11:20:20

I also do pilates and hiit class plus sometimes my friend's LBT class. I think the HIIT is helping with my cardio / strength. But my times are definitely improving. I used to run 5k 36 mins and now its nearer 32 minutes.

Sirzy Sat 15-Mar-14 13:44:52

I was thinking about doing some Pilates type exercise but no clases locally so would need to be a DVD/YouTube stuff

Well done! My current parkrun age grade is 56.89% feetheart and that took some getting for me. Having only been running for two years and I'm in my early thirties so I don't have a great chance of getting higher.

Hi CoffeeBucks! I always recommend interval training for improving speed but just running more often and trying to speed up when I felt ok worked for me up to a certain point too.

Well done youbethemummylion!! Speed doesn't matter, a pb is your improvement and that's all that matters.

Good news EauRouge!

Hi HalleLouja, well done on your run! Sounds like a good way to your 10k smile glad you're enjoying it.

I got a on at parkrun today, by 35 seconds! I was going for it but taking that much off has scared me that I'll never get another pb!

pb not on.

ThursdayLast Sat 15-Mar-14 19:18:41

Well done cinnamon!
I'd be boggled too if I got a 35 second improvement!
I was 5 seconds off my PB, but I was supposed to be taking it easy smile

Sirzy I can highly recommend pilates. I go to proper classes now after an emcs, I'm afraid I don't know much about good dvds though.

Whoops 25 seconds, fat fingers blush

Sirzy Sat 15-Mar-14 19:53:32

On the age grading thing is the aim to get a low %?

No high, the closer to 100% you are the better you are for your age. It's means you're better than whatever % you are in your age category.

orangeflutie Sat 15-Mar-14 20:10:23

Hi it's great to read about all the good runs and PBs.

I'm due to go out tomorrow on a long run but have a sore area on the inner curve of my heel. Thought it might be a blister as I've done the last two short runs in new trainers. Not a blister though so now a bit worriedhmm I guess I'll just have to try running tomorrow and really hope it doesn't cause a problem.

Good to hear your toenail's better EauRougesmile

Fishandjam Sat 15-Mar-14 20:26:56

Well done yoube, that's a great PB! Don't compare yourself to anyone else, that way lies discontent (and medial tibial stress syndrome, as I now know to my cost sad) And you'll probably get faster anyway as the weeks go by.

Welcome coffee. Forgive me, but I don't consider a 32 min 5k slow!

Eau, good news on your toe. Parkrun next weekend? I am forbidden any running until I can stand having DS kick my lower shin without emitting a howl of agony. So in an effort to not blob out, I will be....riding a bike. A&E is on standby. (I am RUBBISH at bike riding. Never really learned as a kid, and am incredibly wobbly and nervous. Argh!)

Sirzy Sat 15-Mar-14 20:29:49

Thanks cinnamon.

Good luck on the bike fish, I am the same never mastered the art of bike riding, I am sure you will be fine though!

EauRouge Sat 15-Mar-14 20:33:26

It is not true what they say about riding a bike. I rode a bike recently after a 15 (possibly longer) year break and it was terrifying- I was rubbish.

Hoping to Parkrun next weekend, will have to see what our plans are.

Fishandjam Sat 15-Mar-14 21:00:16

cinnamon, good work on your PB!

feetheart, 55% is very good when you consider that's 55% of the fastest person in the world in your age category.

Hello Halle, your 5k progress sounds great too. Another 32 minuter! Am envious.

You put that much better than me Fishandjam!

NinetyNinePercentTroll Sat 15-Mar-14 21:03:55

I agree re bikes, eau. DH insisted that we all got bikes last summer and I'm scared to death on mine. I hate roads. I hate going downhill (feel like I'm wobbling out of control and won't stop at the end/will go over the handlebars - prob goes back to a very nasty 'off' I had as a kid which was as a result of a very fast downhill).

Gym visit today - x trainer, recumbent bike & a short, sharp 4k treadmill run.

Perhaps a 10k hilly road run tomorrow. I'll see how I feel. I've got a blister on the ball of my right foot that will bother me on a more demanding stretch, I think.

well done to all the parkrunners and PB'ers. Hurrah!

MrsFrankTurner Sun 16-Mar-14 10:09:56

I am chucking at the image of a fish on a bike fishandjam wink

Went out for an 18 miler yesterday and had to do another SOS to DH as something in the arch of my foot 'pinged' 7 miles in hmm was absolutely gutted as I felt great and was all fuelled up! Nearly carried on but the fear of doing long term damage stopped me.

Going out this afternoon to try again as foot feels fine today -3 weeks today ARGH!!!

Btw I love riding my bike......on a deserted road when nobody is around! I hate cars & other cyclists the whole thing really stresses meshock that's why I love running I don't have to worry too much about other people getting in my way wink

NinetyNinePercentTroll Sun 16-Mar-14 10:54:17

18mile run, mrsfrank ?! Need [awestruck] smiley.

Could only squeeze a 'quick' (hahaha -36min), sunny 5k today as got DS1 & new gf coming over for sun lunch.

It's flipping warm out there and I was somewhat hampered by part of my complicated sports bra strap coming undone about 1.5k in and having to carry on regardless because I'd had to undress my top half to redo it. Bahhhhh. First time that happened and it was somewhat irritating.

NinetyNinePercentTroll Sun 16-Mar-14 10:55:10

I love your gait analysis story jeregrette grin

Hope it's nothing serious MrsFrankTurner!

I did a trail 10k today in 56:59 so I'm well chuffed! I did it last year as my first ever race in 1:01 something.

Jeregrette Sun 16-Mar-14 15:12:18

Ninetynine Thanks grin

Back from my 10k. Ok firstly I know a poor workman blames his tools but. It was very hot and I'm not great at running in the heat as I do most of my training after 7pm!

Did it in just under 58 minutes but my PB is about a minute faster. Still I'm pretty pleased to have got through it 6-8k were pretty tough and I thought I might have to start walking but didn't

I have to say I enjoyed it less than my half marathon last year. I don't think I realised just how difficult a distance the 10k is because you're going that bit faster for quite a distance.

ThursdayLast Sun 16-Mar-14 18:00:28

Well I wasn't expecting to check in today, but the dog and I just did a quick 25 mins around the woods. More for him than me but figured I'd just as well get my gear on as take him for a walk.

Well done on your 10k jeregrette. I'm doing the 6mile for sport relief next week, so I'll know what you're talking about this time next Sunday grin

EauRouge Mon 17-Mar-14 08:17:22

I'm back!! 5k in the sunshine yesterday. It was a bit stop-start, I was a bit dehydrated I think. I really need to start drinking more. Anyway; 31.24, not bad for a couple of weeks off.

Well done on the sub-60 10ks.

ThursdayLast Mon 17-Mar-14 09:16:35

Yay, well done Eau!

Sirzy Mon 17-Mar-14 10:29:29

37 min 5k this morning. one of those "why am I bothering" type runs where I walked much more than I needed to which is pissing me off as I probably could have done it in under 35 if I had really tried.

vladthedisorganised Mon 17-Mar-14 13:35:52

Hello! 4.5 miles this lunchtime; my phone (with map and time application) conked out but I think I managed it in 50 minutes, despite tripping over a molehill and having to walk/ hop for a bit afterwards. Not my most co-ordinated run, but I'm quite pleased.

Well done to everyone who ran in the heat yesterday - I feel faint enough from hearing about the 18 mile run, I'm just aiming to get to more than 5 at the moment!

Sirzy Mon 17-Mar-14 15:47:33

No heat here this weekend been cloudy and dull.

Hope you didn't hurt yourself vlad

Well done Jeregrette!

Sorry to hear about your bad run Sirzy, a good run always a bad one grin

I have sunburnt shoulders shock

HalleLouja Mon 17-Mar-14 18:16:11

Sirzy are you doing any other exercise other than running? Am pretty sure my HIIT class is helping me with my cardio fitness and running speed. Though I still have shit runs.

orangeflutie Mon 17-Mar-14 19:02:08

Hi all I went out yesterday and did 16.7 miles. Can't believe I was running for 3 hours. Lovely weather for it though and I've got a pink tinge toosmile Heel was ok in the end but was fairly wiped out for the rest of yesterday. Going to have to accept I'm not much use for the rest of Sundays for a bit but good excuse to put feet up.

ThursdayLast Mon 17-Mar-14 19:12:10

Well done orange!
Never mind Sirzy, we all have bad days. I usually just write those off as training and consider them calorie burners.
The dog and I just did 2.5mile in 23 minutes. I was super speedy the last quarter of a mile because the light was fading vvv fast, and the woods can be a bit of a creepy place. Lots of screeching and squawking shock

Hot hot hot here last weekend. Did 2 very slow 3 milers, which was a bit annoying after last weekend's progress.

In fairness one of them was going to be 4.5 miles but at 3 miles I noticed the dog was struggling. Walked a few paces and he dropped a satsuma he'd been carrying in his mouth the whole way, no wonder he was panting! Daft mutt grin. By the time I'd got going again and stopped laughing I'd kind of lost my mojo by that point!

EATmum Mon 17-Mar-14 19:40:37

Smiling at the image of your dog, Twelve!
Did 8 miles yesterday and didn't enjoy the heat- definitely not used to this sun malarkey; or all these other people that are now out and getting in my way walking by the river. But (gulp) it's just six days to go until my half marathon. Suddenly panicking. Please can some experienced types give me some calm reassurance? Advice? Thank you!

EauRouge Tue 18-Mar-14 08:08:30

You'll be fine on the day. Make sure you go to bed early the couple of nights before, stay hydrated and get a decent breakfast on the day. Don't eat or drink anything new! I was nervous as hell the week before but fine on the day. Just try to relax and enjoy it smile

Just got back from a very muddy, hilly trail run in the woods. It was ace, I had to climb over a couple of fallen trees, run through ditches, duck under branches (and I'm only 5'4"!) and I saw a deer. I'm definitely going to trail run more often. I was sloooow as hell though.

vladthedisorganised Tue 18-Mar-14 10:54:49

Keeping everything crossed for you, EAT!

Just wondered if I could ask a novice question - is it too risky to be running every day or should I be taking a rest day every other day? I'm currently averaging around 4 miles on my weekday runs and trying to go further (which is 4.7 so far, but trying to build that up) on my Saturday ones. I have circuit training on Thursdays which is helping my strength a lot, Fridays I take as a rest day but find I have the energy Monday - Wednesday to run every day.

My only concern is that I might do myself an injury if I don't rest up in between - my shins hurt a bit during the running itself but feel OK afterwards. Is it OK to do some speed work in between, or am I best resting up? Thanks for any advice!

Yeehaw Tue 18-Mar-14 11:18:08

Hello. I just wondered if I could join. Currently running 3k continuously in about 25 mins and determined to build up to 5k and a parkrun. I use the runkeeper app to measure my time and distance. I'm not very quick blush I'm 49 and used to be a good runner but have had surgery on both legs over the past few years so I now run like an old granny! Am trying to run 4x a week for a month and really hoping I will find it easier and can go for longer. No pain in joints so far, fingers crossed!

Jeregrette Tue 18-Mar-14 14:54:26


I think you should be wary of running every day. I would say 3 to 4 times a week with rest days/cross training in between to begin with but if you have been running a while a rest day can be a short run at a very easy pace.

Try to build up your mileage very gradually no more than ten percent per week

Jeregrette Tue 18-Mar-14 14:59:59


" Please can some experienced types give me some calm reassurance? Advice? Thank you!"

Good luck for the HM. I was given some great advice for my HM. Start off really slowly, right at the back, then gradually you can find a pace you are comfortable with. If there are pacemakers running you could position yourself behind one to ensure you keep at an even pace.

I was aiming (in an ideal world)for sub 2:30 and kept with the 2:25 pacer all the way. Then at the end got ahead of her a little to knock a couple of minutes off. For your first HM your main goal is to finish so don't worry about time too much.

So many people head off too fast and cant keep it up and you'll end up overtaking loads of people later on who are struggling.

Finishing is a fantastic feeling though. I started crying the last mile i felt so emotional when I knew i would finish. You will never replicate that feeling at your next one (that one will be more about time).

Good luck

Sirzy Tue 18-Mar-14 15:29:03

Hi yeehaw! No joint pain is always good

youbethemummylion Tue 18-Mar-14 15:34:11

What would be best outside run in the wind possible earache issues (i always seem to get earache from the wind) or go to gym and run on treadmil bearing in mind my 10k is in 6 weeks and furthest ive ever ran is 5k on treadmill! The wimp in me is saying gym but then i think i really need to increase my road running before the big day. DH is home to look after kids at 5 and so far ive changed my mind every 5 mins. Help!!!!!

Sirzy Tue 18-Mar-14 15:40:20

I would go for outside but I don't like treadmill running.

Can you not wear a hat to cover your ears?

trainersandaches Tue 18-Mar-14 15:47:56

Mummy Lion can you wear a headband or hat to stop earache?

On a separate note, I have realised this weekend that having been running every week of 2014, my sports bra has now got too big or my waps are now too small to fill it I did 5k on Saturday and 10k on Sunday and had to cover my nipples in sudocreme for the second one and was still in agony.

It seems a bit of a waste to just chuck my bra because it's a ShockAbsorber one so was expensive and I only got it in the summer but I really do need the smaller size. It's a comedy size but on checking eBay there seems to be a bit of a market with secondhand bras so I am going to eBay it so someone else can use - I've probably done less than 100 miles in it to date.

youbethemummylion Tue 18-Mar-14 15:48:05

My hat is a big fluffy one with flaps for the ears I fear I may overheat. Im off to raid DH's side of the wardrobe there may well be a more suitable hat.

Dharmalovesdraco Tue 18-Mar-14 18:32:19

Hi all, can I join you? I've graduated from c25k but found myself struggling to keep going/motivated so am starting my 10k training. Went for the first time last night with 10 min run and 1 min walk x 4 - weirdly did my best 5k time yet which was 33.3 (not fast in comparison to many I know) which included 3 minutes of walking. In total managed 6.5k in 44 minutes.

Thinking of entering a 10k somewhere to keep me motivated but that seems rather daunting!!

youbethemummylion Tue 18-Mar-14 18:45:15

Hi Dharma thats an excellent time Im doing a 10k in May and have yet to run further than 5k so please dont be daunted you will be absolutely fine to do a 10k if you want too.

I opted for treadmill as it started raining as well as being windy and I dont have any suitable running gear for weather just t shirts and tights and I think I would freeze. Knocked 27seconds off my PB with a sprint finish though so am celebrating with pick and mix which is the benefit/downside of the gym being in a supermarket!

Sirzy Tue 18-Mar-14 18:46:46

I have entered a 10k in may, it was my motivation to start!

EATmum Tue 18-Mar-14 19:36:20

Thanks to everyone for the advice. Will let you know how I go.

Sirzy Tue 18-Mar-14 19:41:40

good luck EAT

Purplerunner Tue 18-Mar-14 20:08:37

you be A buff is the way to go. I can't wear a hat as I overheat really easily so a buff is a much better option. Got mine in Aldi for a few quid last autumn and it has been great. Kept the earache at bay and we have had lots of wind recently!

SinglePringle Tue 18-Mar-14 20:21:36

I did 5k this morning and it was like wading through treacle. Such hard work. I'd eaten porridge first BUT left it 2 hours after breakfast and my run. Stuck with it but, blimey, I had to force myself!

Mitchy1nge Tue 18-Mar-14 20:33:07

hello everyone, limping onto this thread with my dashed marathon hopes, Original Soleus Strain accompanied by related achilles disorder, plantar fasciitis and Compensatory Injuries in the other soleus and surrounding bits of lower limb grin poor me

do not feel like a great ambassador for long distance running but everything is mending and I managed running club tonight but will be very careful with mileage for foreseeable future. Am mainly here for the running chat popping up on TIO smile

Sorry to hear that Mitchy1nge!

I think that keeping hydrated is really important EATmum, try to enjoy it if you can. I cried loads when I finished my first hm too. Trust yourself, you done the training and you'll finish. One lady in my club told me that it takes 10 hm before you've got it sorted!

I did 5.5 miles with the dogs this morning and loved it! My second run in two weeks without company and it was so enjoyable. I got a mile in and thought, yay one mile done and then thought actually I'm enjoying this so don't know why I'm thinking like that hmm

feetheart Tue 18-Mar-14 21:57:05

3.5 miles this morning in under 35 mins. Felt like it was hard going but was a PB so that probably explains it!

Mitchy - that's rotten though you sound rather chipper in the circumstances. Are you still able be a Wolef?

Eat - only things I can add is:
- take an old jumper/fleece (and a bin bag if it threatens to rain) to wear beforehand as you can get cold hanging around at the start. You can dump it as you start to run
- take LOTS of food for the journey home
- remember where you park the car so you don't have to wander aimlessly around for AGES until a kind lady rescues you and drives you back to the car-parks as you have wandered so far shock blush
- ENJOY it even the hard bits smile

originalpiratematerial Wed 19-Mar-14 07:45:44

Hi all, I haven't posted here for a while but I hope you won't mind me coming back to ask a question? I've been running for a while now, have finally (after 18 months) done a sub-30 min 5k, which I'm SO CHUFFED about, and am doing a 3 mile charity run on 6 April. There's a half-marathon where I live on 22 June. I'm wondering whether I should just take a very short break after the 3 mile run, and then start doing the BUPA half-marathon plan? There's 11 weeks between the two events and the BUPA training plan is 12 weeks, but as I'm already doing some longish runs, then it seemed to me I probably wouldn't need quite as much as 12 weeks to train. Mad? Daft? I'll be just 49 when I do it (if I do it) so no spring chicken!

All thoughts welcome, please?

EauRouge Wed 19-Mar-14 07:55:40

Oh, M1tchy, what a bugger sad Will you be able to manage Berlin? That's not until September is it?

original, I reckon the half marathon is doable. Why do you want to take a break after the 3 mile race? If you're already managing 3 miles regularly then you can probably just get cracking.

originalpiratematerial Wed 19-Mar-14 08:18:22

Thank you EauRouge - I don't know really - I suppose I just thought perhaps I should have a few days off! Probably no need though as I have run 10+ km before a few times and been fine to run again two days later.

EauRouge Wed 19-Mar-14 08:27:43

Nah, even if you do it at race pace you should be fine with a day off and a recovery run. I think I did about 14 weeks training for my HM and I was only running about 4-5 miles for my long run then. But I had the disruption of Christmas so that added on about a week, plus I was only running 3 times a week most weeks.

originalpiratematerial Wed 19-Mar-14 08:32:35

Thanks - that's very good to know. I've never done any kind of run with other people before so I have no idea what it will be like, but it's a fairly low-key local affair so I hope it won't be too intimidating. I don't care if I finish last, as long as I finish! The Hackney Half, if I were to do it, would be a different kettle of fish altogether but at least it is local, I know a lot of the routes already, it's all flat, and not far to get home afterwards!

EauRouge Wed 19-Mar-14 08:40:26

If you've never done any race running then can you get to a parkrun before your race? It's good practice. The first time I ran in a group it felt very weird, you're trying to find your pace and not get caught up by the faster runners, and also trying not to bump into people at the start. It's not that hard but very different to running alone so good to have a couple of goes before a race if you can.

feetheart Wed 19-Mar-14 10:55:54

Good advice to try Parkrun before your first race. On my first 10k I was constantly annoyed by all the people around me who either wouldn't get out of my way <<grump, grump, grump>> or who I felt I was holding up <<worry, worry, worry>>
First half marathon was much better as it was at Silverstone so nice WIDE space to run in smile

Fishandjam Wed 19-Mar-14 14:45:17

Hello vlad. I saw your post and although I'm not on here much at the moment (injured!) your reference to painful shins piqued my interest. Do you shins hurt at all after your run? Do you have any sore spots on your shins, that hurt when you press them or get kicked on them by small children? If so then please please be careful about running too far and fast too soon. I tried to run further and then run faster in one week, on top of slightly sore shins - promptly got shin splints and am currently out of running until they stop hurting completely sad. I think the problem was that my CV fitness had improved a lot, and so my brain thought I could carry on and do more, but my legs hadn't read that memo.

ThursdayLast Wed 19-Mar-14 15:58:35

Good advice from everyone here. I found parkrun to be a v good experience. This week I found myself getting mentally competitive with someone who was being annoying, I wasn't prepared for that and glad I didn't find out in the middle of my first HM for example grin

Today I have run 7miles in 67 minutes, a route including some vvv steep hills. Glad that's done.

Running 6miles for Sport Relief on Sunday, quite looking forward to it now smile

vladthedisorganised Wed 19-Mar-14 16:07:26

Thanks Fishandjam! My shins only hurt a bit when running and definitely not afterwards; it's usually about three-quarters of the way into a long run. I suspect I need to cut back on the speed work for the time being - I've worked up the distance fairly gradually but haven't done speed interval runs for a while. Interestingly it's worse on grass or an uneven surface - it seems to be a lot better on concrete.

Sirzy Wed 19-Mar-14 17:09:34

Just been looking at the times for a local 10k race - quickest time was 31 mins, how can that be possible shock

EauRouge Wed 19-Mar-14 17:31:23

31 minutes! That's a 5k time! shock I was shock/horrified by some of the times of the HM I did. Quite a few people did it in less than half the time I did. But I still bloody finished, which is more than many people could do.

Sirzy Wed 19-Mar-14 17:38:09

i know put me off entering that one, and the fact there would be every chance i will come last

CQ Wed 19-Mar-14 17:47:20

It's important to look at the slowest times too people!! That always makes me feel better.

The first HM I did was at the same time as a full marathon, a great big city affair. As I was approaching the last half mile, I could hear the crowd roaring and thought "Wow that's for me!!" and promptly upped my pace to finish in style. Just as a motorbike whooshed past me followed by the elite marathon runners finishing at the same time as I had done a half in!! It was amazing to be sharing the same road as them though grin

Sirzy Wed 19-Mar-14 18:00:24

For that race even the slowest time didn't make me feel any better lol! Maybe next year

originalpiratematerial Wed 19-Mar-14 18:57:08

I can't really get out to do parkrun - too much going on in our house on Saturday mornings sad.

feetheart Wed 19-Mar-14 19:05:03

Too busy in our house on a Sat too originalpiratematerial and closest one is 20 miles away!
Don't worry too much about it, you have the 3 mile one to get used to annoyed by other people and you never know, you might like being surrounded by like minded souls smile
I also did my first half marathon at 49, and second one last autumn at 51, so you are not alone.

sassytheFIRST Wed 19-Mar-14 19:07:06

Had a really tough run today, reversed the usual 5k route so I had longer but less steep hills. It was a struggle and I ended up walking on at least 5 occasions. Boo. Took longer too, 34 mins as opposed to 31.

New sports bra might have impeded comfy breathing ? It's VG re bouncing though! Also warmer than I'm used to as usually run early morning and today was 2pm and sunny? Who knows.

I agree originalpiratematerial, start the training now smile your 3 miles race can just be one of your runs. I've never followed a program just gradually built up miles to max of 12. Don't let age stop you, I run with a guy who is 54 and doing the London marathon he can 14th in the 10k race we did Sunday.

I know what you mean about the races but that shouldn't put you off! I think the fastest 10k I've seen is about 34mins. On Sunday there was a duathalon with 5k run, 18k bike, 5k run as well as the 10k I did and the fastest man completed it all in 1hr 21m!!!!!!

Very speedy run with my friend this morning, averaged 9m 15 per mile shock with chatting!

Mitchy1nge Thu 20-Mar-14 08:43:06

hi Eau I hope I'll be ok for September, it's not that far off is it?

am just going to try doing small slow runs every other day (two days off in a row was bad for me) and keep up the stretches, all those stupid things stem from one injury which was caused by overuse/failure to stretch and recover properly

the weather is just too perfect not to get out there at the moment! but am going to try to run on roads or tracks with a fairly even surface for now

sassytheFIRST Thu 20-Mar-14 17:54:45

Treadmill run today, hard and quick. Helped me get confidence back after awful run yesterday.

EATmum Thu 20-Mar-14 20:05:56

I will be happy just to complete the HM; really don't care about my time. After all, it's my first and last half marathon, so even if it takes me three hours, it'll be a PB! I'm
Aiming to survive ... so any thanks for all the tips, they make a lot of sense

youbethemummylion Thu 20-Mar-14 21:54:29

Got myself a headband style hat thing and went and braved the elements today it was raining and so windy I nearly got blown off the cliffs but I set a new PB over 5k and ran the furthest I have ever managed so far so it was worth it.

EATmum Fri 21-Mar-14 09:08:32

Well done lion!

ThursdayLast Fri 21-Mar-14 10:31:23

Well done yoube, sounds like you're living life on the edge running on cliffs!
I love to hear about a PB grin

I just did a wildly uneventful 8.5 miles in 80 mins. No goats today.

Does anyone else get lower back ache?

Mitchy1nge Fri 21-Mar-14 12:18:19

no lower back pain, no, does it happen while you are running?

am so pleased to have achieved 3 slow but more importantly virtually painless miles with my slow joggers group this morning smile

Mitchy1nge Fri 21-Mar-14 12:25:06

we did get 'herded' by some beautiful but intense collies though, am glad I like dogs!

ThursdayLast Fri 21-Mar-14 13:34:12

Painfree mitchy? Thats great news. Slowly slowly catchy monkey and all that.
Yeah, my back hurts while I'm running, especially near the end of a run. But I have a weak lower back anyway so it's probably just putting strain on it. Never mind, it's not debilitating smile

ihaveadirtydog Fri 21-Mar-14 14:49:42

Hi all, wondered if I could join you. I've been running for a few weeks now, workin my way through the BUpa training plan for a 10k in march.
I've been doing 5k /30 mins 3 times a week and am finally enjoying it and can understand why people get addicted!
I've been using the runtastic app on my phone but wondered if anyone had any recommendations for a fairly cheap GPS watch as I think that might be a bit more accurate. I do like the little man who talks to me on runtastic though grin

youbethemummylion Fri 21-Mar-14 15:00:05

The garmin forerunner 10 is really good I got mine for �56 it was cheaper because it was green.

EauRouge Fri 21-Mar-14 15:15:59

I've got a forerunner 10 as well and I would recommend it.

Mitchy1nge Fri 21-Mar-14 15:21:08

I can also recommend the FR10, I only talked myself into an upgrade because I liked the look of the purple 220

Mitchy1nge Fri 21-Mar-14 15:21:33

hello ihaveadirtydog, great name grin

Sirzy Fri 21-Mar-14 15:46:26

Hi Ihaveadirty dog.

Mitchy - I liked the look of the purple 220. Sticking with my phone until christmas though when hopefully santa will be nice!

CQ Fri 21-Mar-14 15:48:27

Great name ihaveadirtydog. I have two!!

Thursdaylast have you noticed your back pain on all runs or just intermittently? I have a friend with back trouble who has to be very careful where she runs and on what surface - for her, she needs smooth even pavements and roads and can't run on trails or bumpy paths. But for another friend, it's the jarring of hard roads that does her in and she sticks to the woods and fields.

Might be worth keeping a diary of when and where and after how long it starts to hurt?

Sirzy Fri 21-Mar-14 15:51:39

I need some new capri pants but without breaking the bank - any suggestions?

I did like the look of the ascis muscle support ones, but at £60 a pair I will make do with achy muscles!

EauRouge Fri 21-Mar-14 15:57:14

I've got these, they're such a good fit and reasonably priced too.

Mitchy1nge Fri 21-Mar-14 16:48:19

I've got some similar to Eau's but black and silver, supposed to be knee length but awkwardly more 3/4 (my stupidly short limbs) nike dri fit tech women's running something or other

I think this is them, but mine seem to have more reflective silver stuff on the outside seams confused

ThursdayLast Fri 21-Mar-14 16:50:05

Thats good advice CQ, thank you.
Now you mention it, it does seem worse now I'm running on roads, but then I'm also running further. Who knows?! I thought it might be my posture???

Sirzy Fri 21-Mar-14 17:01:15

Mitchy - they would be 3/4 on me too then! I end up with excess material at the bottom of my full length tights as they are way to long

Mitchy1nge Fri 21-Mar-14 17:10:11

I wouldn't mind if I was actually short but I'm about 5'4, just not very well proportioned grin

ihaveadirtydog Fri 21-Mar-14 17:39:14

Forerunner 10 sounds popular then! Is there anything out there that gives you feedback through headphones like the aps do? Or am I asking too much?

My running leggings are pineapple ones. They are about 2 inches too long but will do the job for now.

Mitchy1nge Fri 21-Mar-14 17:47:15

I can't run with headphones, I have tried but it's not for me.

there's a virtual coach in every garmin watch but it's just an annoying bleeping noise (maybe am not using it properly grin)

Sirzy Fri 21-Mar-14 17:55:41

I'm only 5 ft 1 and with very short legs so no hope for me!

Dharmalovesdraco Fri 21-Mar-14 18:03:47

Can I ask a stupid question? I ran Monday, was meant to go again Wednesday but came down with a cold, I'm feeling much better today still with a thickly cough and a bit of a runny nose - but in starting to feel twitchy that I haven't been out, not because I love to run but because of the worry that I'll undo all I've done over the past 12 weeks. So my question is 'how long a gap can you leave between runs before I'm rubbish again and need to start over?'

EauRouge Fri 21-Mar-14 18:08:52

I read somewhere that you start to lose fitness after 10 days but I imagine you would have to leave it quite a long time before you were back to square one.

Sirzy Fri 21-Mar-14 18:09:13

I didn't run for a month over Christmas and was ok when I got back into if

Mitchy1nge Fri 21-Mar-14 18:15:26

I suppose it depends upon things like how much running you usually do and how long you've been doing it for and whether you are able to replace/supplement it with other activities that boost your aerobic capacity?

I've recently (since December/Jan) gone from running quite a lot of miles to hardly any and was surprised that it was possible to just go out and run 10 miles after a longish break, it didn't help my calf strain and I felt tired but my basic fitness wasn't as compromised as I'd thought. You will know already that even if you are starting from scratch it builds surprisingly quickly and easily.

Dharmalovesdraco Fri 21-Mar-14 18:25:08

I run 3/4 times a week usually 4 to 5k in distance depending on time and how in feeling. If I have another night off I could technically run Saturday and Sunday and still hit my 3 times a week minimum target. I haven't done anything exercise wise since Monday as felt rubbish and couldn't face anything other than my sofa!!

Thanks though for the reassurance - might brave Parkrun if I have a good nights sleep

If I run long distances my back starts to ache towards the end ThursdayLast but usually 10 miles plus. I assume it's just being on my feet that long and perhaps not great running posture.

Hi ihaveadirtydog! I have a garmin 110, it doesn't have loads of functions but tells you time, distance and pace as well as beeping and telling pace per lap (which I set to a mile).

I always recommend karrimor sirzy, last well and start at £9.99 from sports direct.

A week will be ok DhamaLovesDraco, give parkrun a go tomorrow if you feel ok but Sunday will definitely be fine.

Sirzy Fri 21-Mar-14 20:01:07

£9.99 sounds good.

Dharma - i have had a horrible cold virus all week and any attempt to run is ending is disaster. Hopefully will manage to get out tomorrow. Hope you make it to the park run

spacechimp Fri 21-Mar-14 22:10:49

I'm ill too, and really hope I'm well enough for my first 10km race on Sunday. Have a cold and felt a bit rough today at work. Hoping a good night's sleep and doing nothing much tomorrow (apart from volunteering at parkrun) will help as I really want to get over the hurdle and say that I've done a 10km. Hope you feel better Dharma and Sirzy and can run again soon

thefemaleJoshLyman Sat 22-Mar-14 11:59:50

Does anyone else get twitchy when they haven't run for a few days? I think I am properly addicted. No Parkrun for me today, my first proper 10k tomorrow, really nervous. I volunteered which was fab and met a lady who is running tomorrow and we want to do similar times, so hopefully we can spur each other on.

ThursdayLast Sat 22-Mar-14 12:58:04

I did the same today femaleJosh, I really enjoyed volunteering too. Felt like part of the team and started making some friends too I think.

But my back hurt more standing on the finish line than it does when I run.
I am officially a weed

Sirzy Sat 22-Mar-14 15:14:27

Good luck tomorrow femalejosh and space chimo.

yup i get like that too, edging to get out!

originalpiratematerial Sat 22-Mar-14 16:38:15

Lol, I've just realised that I said on here I was doing a 3 mile charity run - it's 6 miles - how did I get that wrong!

Things have gone a bit pear-shaped though as I felt my right shin a bit on Thursday morning when running and sure enough, it has some tender spots now that I think may be the beginning of the dreaded shin splints, so i've iced them and have taken it easy yesterday and today. Plus I have some viral thing going on, upset stomach, lumpy throat etc - not really bad, but I don't feel like running either! I hope that I'm well enough, on both fronts, to get out tomorrow. I really should be doing a fairly long run, I feel.

originalpiratematerial Sat 22-Mar-14 16:38:51

Yes, good luck space chimp and femaleJosh!

Dharmalovesdraco Sat 22-Mar-14 18:54:06

Good luck tomorrow spacechip and femalejosh

I never made Parkrun but I did manage a gentle 4k with some friends at a run walk - I still feel like someone is sat on my chest though sad

Hope my fellow lurgy sufferers are feeling better

spacechimp Sat 22-Mar-14 19:42:45

I'm not going to race tomorrow. Have been in denial about how crap I am feeling because I so wanted to do the 10km. But I have realised I need to rest, though feel really disappointed. I have signed up for a 10km in May so will hopefully make that one, and actually might look for one sooner just to make myself feel more positive. Good luck for tomorrow femalejosh and anyone else racing. Get well soon all fellow ill/injured runners

Sirzy Sat 22-Mar-14 19:48:27

thats a shame spacechimp but sensible.

hope you feel better soon Dhrma, i didn't go out today but feeling much better so will try a couple of km tomorrow

EATmum Sat 22-Mar-14 20:04:48

I'm counting down in hours now to half marathon tomorrow. Strange mix of nerves and excitement. Just hope I don't show myself up really. smile

Sirzy Sat 22-Mar-14 20:06:36

good luck eat, enjoy it!

ThursdayLast Sat 22-Mar-14 20:07:53

Ooooh Eatmum, I forgot you were doing a HM tomorrow!
How exciting, I hope you get some sleep tonight, is it early?

I'm running for Sport Relief tomorrow, but not until 4pm! Don't quite know how I'm going to manage my eating, it's a bit of a funny time.

Good luck to everyone, and I hope everyone feels tip top soon x

Mitchy1nge Sat 22-Mar-14 20:11:10

which half EAT? was supposed to do one tomorrow too

good luck, am looking forward to all these race reports

Jeregrette Sat 22-Mar-14 21:17:32

Good Luck Eat! We await the race report.

Just been out for a 7k with 3/4 minute hill climb at the end. Trying to slow my pace during training as I know I'm always tempted to go too fast. I blame my Garmin. It's made me too conscious of what pace I'm doing and if I think I'm in for a chance of a PB I tend to go for it. (not a good idea if I want to stay injury free).At least hills force you to slow down and are a great workout for the quads.

Currently being very good and icing my knees

OhOneOhTwoOhThree Sat 22-Mar-14 22:27:02

I hope it goes well EAT!

Good luck to the 10K'ers as well.

Itchy feet here - life has got in the way of running this week.

thefemaleJoshLyman Sat 22-Mar-14 22:34:08

Good luck EAT!

Sorry you are feeling poorly spacechimp.

EauRouge Sun 23-Mar-14 06:53:01

Good luck, EAT! You'll be fine. Good luck to all those doing Sport Relief races. We're only doing a mile but I ecpect I'll be carrying DD2 for most of it grin

Dharmalovesdraco Sun 23-Mar-14 08:43:04

Good luck Eat!!!

Sirzy Sun 23-Mar-14 09:19:01

Good luck to all running today! Hope it goes to plan for you all

OhOneOhTwoOhThree Sun 23-Mar-14 10:58:46

I need to run this afternoon - I haven't been out all week and am getting a bit grumpy. I thought it was because I have been a bit stressed and busy this week, but I've just realised that the lack of running is probably contributing to my grumpiness grin. So I'm going to whizz through my very long to-do list for this morning so I can fit in a run later.

Tiredemma Sun 23-Mar-14 11:23:30

Hi all- can I just ask

Im training for a Half Marathon (Bham one in October)- on non running days what exercise would you suggest?


Dharmalovesdraco Sun 23-Mar-14 11:43:56

Hi Tiredemma my sister who is marathon training does a mixture of spinning, pilates, swimming and general gym stuff.

I tried to do Jillian's 'Ripped in 30' on my non run days, I couldn't move without pain for 3 days after wink must try again.....

Mitchy1nge Sun 23-Mar-14 13:07:46

hi tiredemma, anything that you enjoy and find yourself looking forward to doing must be best? I think walking is seriously underrated as a counterpart to running, but obviously weight training is great, swimming, cycling, yoga. Horse riding I am convinced) is great for your core and for fucking with your leg muscles in unexpected ways!

Mitchy1nge Sun 23-Mar-14 13:09:37

lack of running is bad for me mentally too, my mood slides slowly down and stops at the brink of total apathy

if I can't or shouldn't run I can sort of top up by walking or riding instead but it's not exactly the same and I find myself evaluating every route for a potential run at some point

OhOneOhTwoOhThree Sun 23-Mar-14 13:20:29

Same here Mitchy. When I'm running regularly I feel better, eat better, sleep's a virtuous circle smile

I WILL get out later, although I'm glad I stayed indoors to do my jobs - it's just been hailing here shock

OhOneOhTwoOhThree Sun 23-Mar-14 13:22:13

And in the interests of apathy busting, was it on this thread that there was talk of meeting up for a run at Grafham Water at some point? I drove past the sign on Friday and it reminded me.

Sirzy Sun 23-Mar-14 13:26:51

Tired, on my non running days i just try to do something! I do bootcamp sessions a few times a week and otherwise its weights/kettlebells/powerhoop and i am just starting some yoga workouts too.

I am the same as others with running, feel really sluggish if i don't go out for a few days. This cold is driving me mad because it just won't clear. WIll be going out tomorrow n o matter wht though

Mitchy1nge Sun 23-Mar-14 13:27:36

I would love to do that!

I don't know how far away I am in mid suffolk but I bet it's easily driveable and I think I deserve a treat of running somewhere new - I spy on everyone on Garmin connect and toy with the idea of driving out somewhere I've never been before for a run grin

OhOneOhTwoOhThree Sun 23-Mar-14 13:31:36

I think I may have lost my garmin <sob>

I left a bag on the train last week with my running gear and some clothes. I thought I had lost my treasured marathon tee-shirt, but that was still in the drawer. But I can't find my garmin, so suspect I popped it in the bag. I was rushing around getting ready, so can't remember clearly.

Mitchy1nge Sun 23-Mar-14 13:33:15


Sirzy Sun 23-Mar-14 13:35:56

i have just planned a 10k run. Looks so far when i actually think about the route

youbethemummylion Sun 23-Mar-14 14:24:44

On non running days I take the dog on a VERY long walk she hates me for it! Then on an evening I do boxing on the Wii and my arms hate me too!

chaosmonkey Sun 23-Mar-14 14:45:08

Hello everyone.

I am shamelessly posting here even though I don't deserve to, but I thought you may be best placed to advise me...

I started doing C25K and got to w3 d3, and was loving it, but then came down with a terrible cough/cold, and not been able to run for a week.

When can I start running again? I am still coughing and snotty, but don't feel like death, - do I wait till I've totally stopped coughing? or should I have a go at an earlier week?

thanks - and grovels for stealing onto a thread for proper runners...

Sirzy Sun 23-Mar-14 14:49:57

Chaos - everyone is welcome on here, I am certainly not a proper runner to the standard of some on here!

I would be tempted to go back a week and see how you get on - if you struggle you can always drop to a walk.

I have had the same issue and hoping tomorrow to just get out and do something to get going again!

sassytheFIRST Sun 23-Mar-14 14:56:58

Went out this morning in freezing rain , wearing vest, long sleeved top and gloves...finished in just the vest as the sun came out and I was boiling! 5.1 miles/8.5k again but 2 mins faster today, 51 mins. Really chuffed. And I felt pretty comfortable most of the way round, though I still always want to lie down and die from 1/2 mile to the 2 mile mark!

Fishandjam Sun 23-Mar-14 15:24:44

Hello chaos! I'm not a proper runner either smile. Re cough/cold, I'm sure I've read somewhere that if you only feel crap from the neck up, you're ok to run. If you feel crap anywhere from the neck down, it's better to wait until you're recovered. But I guess if you feel like running, go running and take it gently.

OhOneOhTwoOhThree Sun 23-Mar-14 15:28:20

^What Fishandjam said smile

EATmum Sun 23-Mar-14 15:29:31

Hi everyone, I'm here for my debrief. So I ran my HM this morning and survived; so that is my goal achieved. It was freezing at the start and end, very busy (Richmond HM - I'd guessed at a couple of hundred people but there were thousands) and very long - but manageable. I never felt like I had to stop running and walk (which I knew from experience could throw everything off for me), although I had nothing in reserve for a last minute sprint - more like a last minute lurch. I'm not sure of my time yet but guessing at somewhere around 2:20. Very very happy now to have had a (fantastic) hot bath and to be sat on my sofa with a cup of tea and a glow of smug satisfaction. Thank you all for your support and good wishes - much appreciated. grin

EauRouge Sun 23-Mar-14 15:46:26

Fantastic, well done! Enjoy the tea and smug feeling.

OhOneOhTwoOhThree Sun 23-Mar-14 15:47:39

EAT that is fabulous! Well done and enjoy the post-run glow!

orangeflutie Sun 23-Mar-14 16:05:19

Well done EATsmile It's a lovely feeling after your first half isn't it? I was on a high after my first half in March.

I did 18 miles this morning which will be my last really long run before VLM. I enjoyed it in parts, mostly the first two thirds lol. The knees were aching during the last third but I'm relieved it's now done. It was also nice to do it in sunshine as it started to hail about 10 mins after I got back.

Sorry you weren't well enough to run Spacechimp but better to get well, there will be other 10k's smile

How did you get on thefemaleJoshLyman?

Well done EATmum, that's great!

I know what you mean OhOneOhTwoOhThree, hope you got out!

I didn't do parkrun yesterday as I had a course and then was working in the evening and I've had terrible cramps all say yesterday and today which also stopped me sleeping so I didn't go our today either, feeling fed up but didn't feel up to it. It's something I get every few months a few days after a ovulate, I probably should see a dr but I've just a assumed it's my coil battling against pregnancy but it's never been this bad before sad we didn't even go out for the day as we planned.

Hope everyone else had a lovely Sunday run if they wanted to.

thefemaleJoshLyman Sun 23-Mar-14 16:14:35

Well done EAT, that is brilliant!

I did my 10k, which seemed really tough (even more scared about hm), dead chuffed with my time 48.59, did not expect to do sub-50. It was really windy across the Fens.

Well done orangeflutie!

originalpiratematerial Sun 23-Mar-14 16:24:25

Well done EATmum and orangeflutie!

I had a great run this morning. Shin felt fine! Did 7.5 miles which is the furthest I've ever run. New 10k PB of 1 hour 6 mins. Am definitely up for starting half-marathon training now, and really looking forward to the six mile charity run in a fortnight's time.

originalpiratematerial Sun 23-Mar-14 16:24:53

and femaleJosh - that's great smile

OhOneOhTwoOhThree Sun 23-Mar-14 17:13:59

Fantastic orangeflutie! I am feeling quite jealous of your VLM - a couple of my friends are also doing it. After my one and only marathon I said never again, but am coming around to the idea of another smile

cinnamon you poor thing, hope you feel better soon <hugs>

Josh you are super-speedy. Well done!

Pirate that's great smile

I have been out in the evening sunshine. Only about 5k, and no idea of speed now that I am garminless. Fingers crossed my bag will be handed in and I will get it back (and my running gear, and the other clothes I had in it).

Dharmalovesdraco Sun 23-Mar-14 17:14:23

Well done Eat

I'm not sure what I thought I was doing this lovely sunny afternoon but it would appear I found myself entering a half marathon in October. What on earth have I done???

OhOneOhTwoOhThree Sun 23-Mar-14 17:28:05

Yay Dharma! Which one?

I have spent many a happy hour looking at my local running club's fixture list (even though I am not member) working out which races to enter grin

Sirzy Sun 23-Mar-14 17:32:55

well done everyone on the races today smile

Dharma, we can panic together I have a half marathon in September.

spacechimp Sun 23-Mar-14 17:47:56

Congratulations Eat - that's an amazing achievement! Enjoy your post run euphoria. Well done on an amazing 10km time Josh and on your long runs orangeflutie and pirate. Sorry you are feeling rubbish cinnnamon - that sounds horrible.

Still feeling pretty ropey and also a bit down about not doing the 10km which I know is stupid as there will be others and it's not the end of the world. It's made me realise how much I've been using running and exercise in general to make me feel positive good about myself and it makes a real difference when I can't do it

EATmum Sun 23-Mar-14 18:00:49

Thanks all and well done JoshLyman (who is mine btw) and everyone else running today!

Sirzy Sun 23-Mar-14 18:02:26

Space hope you are feeling well enough to go out again soon!

Dharmalovesdraco Sun 23-Mar-14 18:10:10

It's the Bournemouth one smile ohone I'm really not sure what possessed me - I'll blame you lot, all this talk of 10ks and half marathons wink

OhOneOhTwoOhThree Sun 23-Mar-14 18:23:54

It will be great fun Dharma smile

My next half is in June, although I'm tempted to slip one in in May as well smile

ThursdayLast Sun 23-Mar-14 18:51:55

Hello everybody!
Sounds like it's been a successful day in the sunshine for this thread.
For my part, I ran my 6 miles for sport relief. In 53 mins which was great grin and I raised £180 which I'm delighted with!

Well done Eat, on you HM. And everyone else too, I'm sorry, I'm using the app and can't scroll the thread in the background to remind myself of everyones achievements today.

Sirzy Sun 23-Mar-14 18:56:52

You will be fine Dharma, lots of time to prepare.

I am jealous of all these good 10k/6 mile times!

ThursdayLast Sun 23-Mar-14 19:01:47

Dharma, I've totally got the bug too.
Been googling HMs blush

Well done ThursdayLast!

What are you doing in June OhoneOhTwoOhThree?

Sirzy Sun 23-Mar-14 20:05:45

Thursday - get yourself signed up for one!

OhOneOhTwoOhThree Sun 23-Mar-14 20:47:34

cinnamon I have signed up for a possibly slightly bonkers "marathon series", which consists of a 5 mile road run on the Friday; 8.1 mile x-country on the Saturday and 13.1 on the Sunday of midsummer weekend. It's pretty local to me (close enough to bike to, although I don't think I will be doing that). DH has promised to cheer me on but I don't think he realises he will be doing it 3 times

Actually, it's all your fault grin because I found out about it from a very nice lady I met at the finish of the Cambridge Boundary Run smile, and if it wasn't for you I wouldn't have been there grin

CQ Sun 23-Mar-14 21:04:06

Well done all you racers today, it was perfect running weather down our way. I did a 5k fun run and it wasn't much fun. Uphill start, uphill finish and plenty uphills in the middle. All on bumpy turf and muddy trails. It was REALLY hard work - I then tried to go too fast on the flat bits to improve my time, and bombed out and had to walk for a tiny bit. blush So I was disappointed with my time - 37 mins and something, but I haven't done a race for 18 months and my PB at 5k was on a fast, flat road race so I'm trying to be rational.

OhOne that midsummer race sounds fab. Going off to look for something similar near me - for 2015!

Sirzy Sun 23-Mar-14 21:04:08

that sounds like hard work OhOne!

originalpiratematerial Sun 23-Mar-14 21:07:50

Ah, I am so craving the HM thing now too smile

OhOneOhTwoOhThree Sun 23-Mar-14 21:25:53

That does sound a challenging "fun" run CQ smile Well done on getting back to it after a break!

Sirzy Sun 23-Mar-14 21:31:21

CQ that sounds fab given the less than ideal conditions.

I have arranged a lift to somewhere I can run along a flat straight road (with footpaths) rather than the normally hilly bendy bits here on tuesday morning.

Original - find one for the end of year give yourself a target

I love how this thread is helping us keep each other motivated

sassytheFIRST Sun 23-Mar-14 21:34:39

Well done those who ran competitively today.

I'm toying with the Cardiff HM in the autumn - my sister has run it twice and is planning to run again this year (she's about to do the London marathon so Proper Fit...) I haven't mentioned it to anyone in RL...will see how I go through the summer and decide maybe June ish.

TessTackle Sun 23-Mar-14 22:54:47

<Tentative> hello?
I'm going for my first solo run tomorrow. I'm petrified and have been sent here for some encouragement blush

OhOneOhTwoOhThree Sun 23-Mar-14 23:11:59

Jell Tessgrin

OhOneOhTwoOhThree Sun 23-Mar-14 23:13:27

That should of course say hello Tess. Now I understand what people mean about posting from their phonesmile

TessTackle Sun 23-Mar-14 23:26:16

grin hello OhOne!

sassytheFIRST Mon 24-Mar-14 07:02:23

Tess, good luck. Get your iPod on with some good tunes (strangely, I find naff power ballads easier to run to than clubby rhythms...!), pull your cap down and off you go. I like running alone, there's no head space thing going on for me but it is an hour when no one wants me. And I notice things - flowers, blossom etc.

TessTackle Mon 24-Mar-14 08:25:17

Morning sassy I'm all kitted up ready to go, just got to hey miniTess off to nursery first. I don't own a cap yet I can do this!

EATmum Mon 24-Mar-14 09:28:35

You can totally do it Tess - I was in your (running) shoes 18 months ago and ran a half marathon yesterday. May never walk again but no matter It's just a matter of starting small and building up. I never thought I would be "a runner" but it happened - and I wish now I'd got started before I was 40! Good luck and enjoy it. Are you doing a c25k? That was how I got started.

Sirzy Mon 24-Mar-14 09:30:41

Enjoy Tess.

Not quite feeling up to running today so going for a 3 mile power walk to town to get bits i need for DS at school

Mitchy1nge Mon 24-Mar-14 09:39:54

wow amazingly well done everyone yesterday smile

TessTackle Mon 24-Mar-14 10:04:50

I'm home. Really struggled today, I'm so disappointed in myself. The sun was too much and I didn't pace myself enough at the beginning sad

vladthedisorganised Mon 24-Mar-14 10:15:31

Wow, well done EAT and to all the runners!

I broke the 5-mile barrier and managed 6 miles in 52 minutes on Saturday (which I was quite pleased with, given two very large hills in the middle) - I'd intended to do just over 5 but took a wrong turning somewhere! Legs felt like jelly at the end but it's nice to know I can do it. 4 miles today and hoping for a repeat on Saturday..

Tess, you can do it! Whatever you manage, you're still lapping everyone on the couch smile

EauRouge Mon 24-Mar-14 10:54:39

Tess- you had a bad run, don't beat yourself up smile Every so often I have one that makes me want to chuck my running shoes in the bin. It's normal! At least you know where you want to improve. Have you got running sunglasses? I've just got cheapo ones, but they are lightweight, comfy and do the job.

TessTackle Mon 24-Mar-14 11:01:18

Eau it was the change in temp from the sun rather than the sun in my eyes. My left calf is really sore too, despite stretching. I think I pushed myself too hard on Friday.

I thought I have no time to run until Thursday now but I'm going to go for half an hour tomorrow before my meetings and see if I can do better.

Sirzy Mon 24-Mar-14 11:25:32

Tess everyone has bad runs but at least you got out there and ran!

TessTackle Mon 24-Mar-14 11:42:01

Thanks Sirzy I'm now looking at getting a new sports bra; mine feels like it digs in to the back of my neck.

Are the ones with smallish straps any good? I've got quite big boobs.

EauRouge Mon 24-Mar-14 12:12:39

I'm a 30F and I have this one. If you haven't had a fitting recently then make sure you get one! Not at M&S, they're shite.

ThursdayLast Mon 24-Mar-14 14:18:20

I have an ancient Shock Absorber sports bra. I didn't think it has been worth buying a new one what with all the being pregnant and breast feeding and all, but I think the time is nigh.
I'll be interested in recommendations too.

I drove home via some of my running roads today, trying to recce a longer route and I got lost! DS fell asleep and was v grumpy when we got home grin

smee Mon 24-Mar-14 14:28:13

Total lightweight newbie here with a question. I have been running 2-3k 3 times a week, but it clobbers my knees (they ache and creak). Not too sure if this is because I'm getting used to it, or if it's my body warning me to stop. Any thoughts?! Am 48 so not exactly spring chicken material, but not overweight and have good running trainers (well good enough!) I don't want to stop as am getting the bug.

CQ Mon 24-Mar-14 15:30:35

Following a MN recommendation years ago, I have Moving Comfort - Juno bras - love 'em. I have 3, they have washed and washed and washed, I think I've had them for about 4 years now so probably time for a replacement. Nothing moves.

Hi Smee - nice to see another not-exactly-spring-chicken runner! I'm 48 too and my knees do complain, but I figure it's better than my heart complaining and giving out on me for getting fat and unhealthy.

I did some research into diets for arthritis as DH gets it in his knees, and I think we've both benefited from avoiding inflammatory foods.

I was also told that doing some lunges mid-run is a really good way of forcing the synovial fluid back around your knee joints to keep everything lubricated. Seems logical but not sure if there's any science behind it!

TessTackle Mon 24-Mar-14 15:35:17

I have another question about sports bras. Do you all just wear the sports bra? Or a bra underneath? Thanks!

Sirzy Mon 24-Mar-14 15:35:44

Which foods do you avoid then? I have always had knee issues but thankfully most of the time they seem fairly happy running

CQ Mon 24-Mar-14 15:43:23

Well, from memory, the first and clearest no-no was a daily high dose of vitamin C - Dh was taking Berocca every day, and since cutting it out has seen a huge improvement. Who knew?

I also remember strawberries can be inflammatory. And we now add flaxseed to our porridge, it has loads of beneficial properties including being anti-inflammatory.

Less red meat and alcohol of course sad, and lots more fish, esp oily fish, in our diet.

Those are the main habits we've adopted.

The most eye-opening fact I found when researching arthritis was that the body's fat cells actually produce an inflammatory chemical. So as well as putting more strain on my joints by being overweight, my lovely fat cells are actually creating inflammation. shock

This was the single most persuasive fact that has motivated me to get moving on my weight loss journey again. And running is the best fat burning activity I can think of!

Sirzy Mon 24-Mar-14 16:08:38

thats great thanks, and is probably another reason why my knees are so much better now i am shredding weight

ThursdayLast Mon 24-Mar-14 16:15:51

We were discussing this just yesterday.
I have had a bad knee since a childhood injury. Doctors can't really diagnose anything but it my right knee has a sticky outy lump under the kneecap.
Even though I'm running in roads most of the time now, I think that building up slowly has actually strengthened it. Before I have rushed into getting fit, looking for a quick fix and my knee has often been part of the reason it didn't work.

So I would recommend slow progress. But I also know how boring that can seem smile

EauRouge Mon 24-Mar-14 16:49:18

I just wear a sports bra. If it's a good sports bra and (most importantly) it's the right size then you shouldn't need to wear two bras.

smee Mon 24-Mar-14 17:01:10

Slow sounds good to me Thursday..! Interesting all that info on the anti-inflammatory foods CQ. Arthritis runs in the family - my dad's crippled with it - so I should look into it all for that reason alone. I don't eat red meat, but a glass of wine or several has been known to be downed… I think I'll just keep going and building up slowly. It isn't getting worse, so maybe it'll get better with time.

I don't know about knees but I tend to not like the idea that you must stop doing something because of a weakness, mostly there's a way to strengthen that weakness. Perhaps building up slowly will help, running on grass/softer ground will definitely help as will gait analysis and therefore the correct shoes. I had some knee pain but between runs rather than during and now I'm running further it is totally gone, and I am now a neutral runner rather than over pronating which apparently comes from stronger muscles. My knee pain started when I injured my groin and I assume I was running differently to over compensate. If you have knee problems generally I highly recommend c jointin from holland and barret, my dh suffers with his joints and he's tried lots of combinations of glucosamine/cod liver oil/chondroitin and he's found these tablets are far better than anything else he's tried. They are expensive but we try and get them on offer!

I can't advise on the bra front, since I lost weight I went from a 38G to a 32DD so don't even need a sports bra.

Stomach cramps a bit better today and I have worked so I am going to run tonight with my doggy running friends and make an appointment tomorrow at least with a nurse.

Sirzy Mon 24-Mar-14 17:10:11

how much weight did you lose cinamon?

As I have lost my cup size hasn't changed, i have gone for 38e to 32e so they just look bigger now. I have 2 shock absorbers bras and both are great

TessTackle Mon 24-Mar-14 17:15:49

Cinnamon how can you not need a sports bra?! Surely they still move, isn't it uncomfortable?

sassytheFIRST Mon 24-Mar-14 17:24:46

On sports bras...I have comedy 30jjs and the sports bra on its ow n copes v well. Need replacing more often than most peoples though!

TessTackle Mon 24-Mar-14 17:32:12

Jesus Sassy I thought my sister was large a 28GG!
Thanks, I'm going to have to go and get fitted and try some on.

Blatherskite Mon 24-Mar-14 19:59:38

I'm a 28GG and got my sports bras fitted at Bravissimo. Love that place.

HaveTeaWillSurvive Mon 24-Mar-14 20:14:57

Hi everyone - can I join in for some motivation please smile

Just back from W1R2 of c25k and feeling really pleased with myself for getting out even though it's dark and cold out there. Started it last autumn but only got to week 4 - fingers crossed I can do it this time!

ThursdayLast Mon 24-Mar-14 20:17:32

Much better time of year to start HaveTea!
And you'll probably find those four weeks will have given you a base fitness for this time around grin
Welcome, this thread is EXCELLENT motivation
My safari page is currently open on the payment page of a local HM, just waiting to discuss it with DP before I hit paypal shockshockshock

Sirzy Mon 24-Mar-14 20:19:15

Welcome HaveTea - stick with it, you will soon find the running bug is very contagious!

ooh exciting thursday when is it?

originalpiratematerial Mon 24-Mar-14 20:51:36

Sirzy I am toying with the idea of RunHackney which is a half-marathon in Hackney (where I live) on 22 June. If I can run 7.5 miles now, I figure I could just about get up to half-marathon distance by then.

originalpiratematerial Mon 24-Mar-14 20:55:11

On the subject of running bras - I have various ones including a Nike one and a LA Gear one but my Shock Absorber one is my favourite one. They do size up differently to Bravissimo though. I am a 32E in Bravissimo bras but can't get in smaller than a 34 in the Shock Absorber ones.

I lost 5 1/2st Sirzy.

They're fine in a normal bra TessTackle, don't notice them moving at all. Out of a bra I hold onto them of I run upstairs so they do still move wink. Sadly not much volume to them, the joys of being between 13 and 18 1/2st my whole adult life and now 9 1/2!

Hi HaveTeaWillSurvive! I did c25k jan 2012 love it as a program, welcome smile

Go for it ThursdayLast!

Sirzy Mon 24-Mar-14 21:32:56

Go for it original pirate!

Wow cinnamon that is fantastic well done!

Yes for sure originalpiratematerial!

originalpiratematerial Mon 24-Mar-14 21:53:33

I have another sartorial question grin

I am wondering whether to buy some actual running shorts for the summer. Normally I run in capris, or tights in the winter, and I have some knee length ones too, but I do get terribly hot running even in cold weather. Last year I was going great guns until the weather got hot and then I just found it terribly hard to run. But although my legs have never been in better nick, I am still a bit hmm about the idea of being seen out in shorts! Does anyone else wear them?

ThursdayLast Mon 24-Mar-14 22:13:12

I wear shorts! Last summer was the only summer I have run in DS was 3/4mo in that heatwave so the only time I saw any sun was when I went running! But I live v rural and hardly see anyone when I run grin

I'm trying to decide between Eden Project HM in Oct, or Truro in Sept. I'm all about being prepared, so I feel I need lots of time to get ready. I can do 8.5 now.

DP was under the impression a HM was inevitable...

Sirzy Mon 24-Mar-14 22:22:22

Eden project would be pretty steep wouldn't it? Very nice location though!

I am starting the summer months in capris, can't see me braving shorts yet!

Eden project sounds fab!!

I have shorts but don't wear them often as I have hideous legs and am quite self conscious. In the summer I sometimes don't run until 9pm to avoid the hear it start at 6 smile

ThursdayLast Mon 24-Mar-14 22:31:20

Funny you should say that sirzy, I ran my 6 miles there yesterday.
It was basically half a mile uphill, half a mile downhill. And repeat.
There is literally NOWHERE flat in Cornwall grin

originalpiratematerial Mon 24-Mar-14 22:42:23

Thanks Thursday! Hmm, will ponder...the weather has gone back to chilly, hasn't it, so I probably don't need to make any hasty decisions...

EATmum Mon 24-Mar-14 23:22:40

Go for it Thursday and pirate. Although hills don't sound like a good idea to me re sports bras, I have almost nothing to move about (think B cup at a push if you were in a generous mood) but all my osteopath buddies tell me that it's really important to wear one as you can't really do much to get it back when it's gone as BF three DDs has proven

OhOneOhTwoOhThree Tue 25-Mar-14 00:00:04

Just on summer running garb, I have a couple of running skirts - they have built in cycling shorts underneath, so modesty is preserved, and they chafe less than running shorts IME

youbethemummylion Tue 25-Mar-14 07:45:02

Im nervous for my run tonight! Since leaving the safety of the gym ive been running on the cliffs where there is only the odd dog walker however the route is no longer long enough and the uneven surface not good for my ankles.

So tonight I shall be running about 7 -8k of the 10k race route. There will be people and cars driving past and I shall look like a red sweaty fool! Also im still having to do run/walk intervals as just cant run without those 2min rests. So everytime im walking I shall look even more foolish!

I can feel me talking myself out of this today!

You're doing more than they are in their cars youbethemummylion! Don't worry about how you look enjoy your run and perhaps it will push you to get past that mental barrier of having to stop wink

feetheart Tue 25-Mar-14 10:49:48

I thought the 'red, sweaty' look was compulsory although the only fools will be those not out running smile

Go for it youbethemummylion

Sirzy Tue 25-Mar-14 10:51:23

Only managed 2.2km today - but averaged 6 min 20 per km which I am happy with smile will convert it into miles later!

ThursdayLast Tue 25-Mar-14 11:07:12

Holy moly I took a bit of an exploring run today and ended up running 10.75 miles!
What the f**k. I did not think I was capable of that.
Sirzy, your pace is picking up isn't it?
Yoube, I find the best thing is sticking in some headphones, listen to something funny and before you know it, you'll have stopped noticing people smile

Yeehaw Tue 25-Mar-14 11:10:37

what do you listen to when you run? I made a running mix on spotify but find myself getting bored with it quite quickly. It would be good to listen to 'something funny' as Thursdaylast says but what?

Sirzy Tue 25-Mar-14 11:22:43

yes, i think its picking up more because I can run without stopping for longer though! Just checked and it was 6 min 22 seconds per km average which works out at about 10 min 14 per mile. So close to breaking that 10 min mile mark!

I have no idea what half the songs on my ipod are - my friend who is a runner sends me running tracks via whatsapp and by the time they are onto my ipod they are just a stream of letters rather than a name! I could sing them to you but not say what they are called!

ThursdayLast Tue 25-Mar-14 11:30:44

I use podcasts, mostly from R4 with Confessions and Fighting Talk thrown in grin

Yeehaw Tue 25-Mar-14 11:34:18

podcasts very good idea

now how to work this with an android phone...<gimmer>

Sirzy Tue 25-Mar-14 11:38:11

I like the idea of podcasts might look for some later

I just used to put my music on my phone on shuffle but did get annoyed at times with it! When I was training for my first hm I knew I wouldn't be allowed music for the actual race so got used to running without music and now I never have anything. I probably sing to myself though but mostly just running through stuff I have to do or replaying things in my mind!

Yeehaw Tue 25-Mar-14 12:06:27

yes I quite like running with nothing. except the oprah winfrey a like telling me how far I have run (runkeeper)

Mitchy1nge Tue 25-Mar-14 12:28:40

I can't listen to anything while running, except my own breathing and footfall (and whatever is going on)

wish I could because hardly ever seem to have opportunities to play whatever music I want

CQ Tue 25-Mar-14 13:14:18

Sitting shivering and tired today and really should get out and run. It's SO cold and wet. I had my lunch at 11.45 in an attempt to warm up! Might take the dogs for a drag in a minute - I'll come back warm but they'll be wet and smelly and I've just cleaned the house hmm

RainToday radar looks like it might be brightening up so perhaps I'll do a couple more jobs and then head out. Motivation rock bottom today.

Come on CQ, go out you'll feel better for it!!

ThursdayLast Tue 25-Mar-14 13:57:32

Come on CQ.
Think how satisfying it is to come back on here to report grin

And well done ThursdayLast for your distance and Sirzy on your improved pace smile

ThursdayLast Tue 25-Mar-14 15:03:43

Thank you cinnamon smile

youbethemummylion Tue 25-Mar-14 17:18:19

So I feel much better now ive done my run. No one paid much attention to me I ran my fastest 5k yet and only stopped at 8k cos it was time to get DS from football. I could have run further and that feels so good!

ThursdayLast Tue 25-Mar-14 17:30:50

Good news yoube!

youbethemummylion Tue 25-Mar-14 17:41:25

Thank you Thursday and well done everybody else who ran today!

Sirzy Tue 25-Mar-14 17:51:46

Fantastic you be glad if went well

youbethemummylion Tue 25-Mar-14 17:57:52

Is it just me who when they've done a good time/distance start to think their Garmin must be faulty? Ive Just been mapping my run on Mapmyrun to check the distance was correct!

originalpiratematerial Tue 25-Mar-14 18:59:46

yoube that's great!

I did a "recovery" run this morning after Sunday's long run - 6 km but I was painfully slow! Tired legs, I guess, plus I was awake from about 1.40 to 4.30 with sicky boy.

I then did a gym session with personal trainer so that was an hour of weights, abs and stuff, plus 10 mins on a bike and five mins of stretching. I should sleep well tonight. I have told personal trainer that I'm going to train for a HM. He is unlikely to let me forget now grin

originalpiratematerial Tue 25-Mar-14 19:02:51

I used to not listen to music at all, ever. Then when I redid the 5k programme using the Guardian beginner runner podcasts, back in September/October, I got quite into listening to music. Then I stopped as I thought it was making me a bit manic! Now I've started again but am listening to slightly different stuff - not so much dance-orientated.

cinnamon that's a good point about it not being available during HM.