Is there a general running thread?

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Sirzy Thu 26-Dec-13 18:57:58

I am pretty new to running (started in Septmember) but have some pretty ambitious targets in 2014 (10k and half marathon) so looking for other runners to advice, kick up the backside and generally chat about all things running.

I have seen a few couch to 5k threads but I didn't get on with that so can't use those threads so thought a thread for all runners whether they are new to it or experienced runners would be good?

EauRougemasTree Thu 26-Dec-13 19:01:40

There was ages ago. There's a half marathon thread knocking around somewhere too. But I'm always up for a new running thread!

I'm doing my first half in March, when's yours?

OhOneOhTwoOhThree Thu 26-Dec-13 19:02:19

Sirzy there's a fairly long running parkrunning thread - but we chat about all things running, not just parkruns. Come and join us! Some of us are doing 10Ks and half marathons next year as well.

And a spin-off has just started with a plan for a MN 10K next year grin

OhOneOhTwoOhThree Thu 26-Dec-13 19:03:16

Eau - I'm doing a half in March as well smile

Sirzy Thu 26-Dec-13 19:04:19

Eau - half marathon not til septmeber, Manchester 10k in May first.

OhOh - thanks will have a look, there are no parkruns near me so hadn't looked closely at the thread.

EauRougemasTree Thu 26-Dec-13 19:04:24

Reading or Silverstone? I'm doing a local one in Cambs, it's fairly small but only down the road from me.

OhOneOhTwoOhThree Thu 26-Dec-13 19:13:24

Eau - are you doing the small Cambridge one on 2 March, as opposed to the bigger one a week later? Just nosey, because another MNer and I are doing the smaller one smile

EauRougemasTree Thu 26-Dec-13 19:16:38

You mean Swavesey or Cambridge? I'm doing the Swavesey one.

Sirzy Thu 26-Dec-13 19:22:31

how long did it take you to get from nothing too capable of half marathon?

OhOneOhTwoOhThree Thu 26-Dec-13 19:23:54

We're doing the Cambridge Boundary Run - it's the week before the Cambridge Half Marathon.

EauRougemasTree Thu 26-Dec-13 19:25:18

Not sure if I'm capable yet grin The training plans I looked at are usually about 12 weeks and assume that you're already running 3-4 miles a few times a week. If you're doing a 10k in May then you'll have loads of time to get ready for a half in September.

EauRougemasTree Thu 26-Dec-13 19:25:45

Ah, I'm not doing that one. Isn't that the full marathon distance?

Tiredemma Thu 26-Dec-13 19:26:08

Took me about 6 months to get up to half marathon fit. I ran 3 x a week r (1 short fast run / 30 mins). 1 medium run including hills ( 45/60 mins) and 1 long run (2hrs +).

I did a couple of 10k runs and one 10 mile run leading up to the half marathon. Not a great time as I injured my knee, did it in 2hr 29.

Sirzy Thu 26-Dec-13 19:26:34

Thats what I am hoping Eau, I can do 5k now (mix of running and jogging) so pretty confident for the 10k, but the idea of half marathon is pretty scary - will be a good way of keeping me running though as I need to put in the work to stand a chance!

Sirzy Thu 26-Dec-13 19:27:42

I would be over the moon to do it in that time Tired, actually I will be over the moon to just cross the finish line!

Mitchy1nge Thu 26-Dec-13 19:28:24

I did a couple of half marathons last year and now run the distance quite often as part of longer runs, I don't remember how long it took to be able to run so far but it wasn't ages, just weeks or months. Just keep extending your long run a bit each week, it grows very quickly!

OhOneOhTwoOhThree Thu 26-Dec-13 19:31:33

Sirzy I did C25K in early 2011, and did my first half marathon in January 2012. DH was running 10K several times a week at the time, which encouraged me to start going further. I'm not fast, but enjoy the challenge of running longer distances - I've done 6 half marathons and a full marathon (and was regularly running more than half-marathon distance when I was training for the full).

OhOneOhTwoOhThree Thu 26-Dec-13 19:33:33

Eau it's a half and a full. You can sign up with the option of only doing the half, which I've done, or deciding on the day whether to go the full distance shock.

DulcetMoans Thu 26-Dec-13 19:40:31

Ill join! You all sound a lot more advanced than me but I have been running for just over a year. Have a 10k to train for in march but find it hard to train at long distances in the dark. I can't run on the treadmill either - anyone else have that?!

Sirzy Thu 26-Dec-13 19:44:19

I can't stand running on treadmills. I have been going out early mornings to avoid running in the dark, I have got a hi-vis coat but still don't feel safe running in the dark.

RedLondonBus Thu 26-Dec-13 19:44:48

Apparently there's a Peterborough half marathon. Anyone know it?

EauRougemasTree Thu 26-Dec-13 20:05:49

The Great Eastern run is in Peterborough in October. If there are still places left aftef I do my half then I might do it.

Sirzy Fri 27-Dec-13 08:10:32

Listening to that wind out there, and the bins being blown over, I don't think I am going to get my run this morning sad hopefully the winds will calm down a bit by early evening and I can go out then instead.

sassytheFIRST Fri 27-Dec-13 08:18:24

I wanted to run this morning but I'm scared of the wind. I do have gym membership so might go and run on the treadmill - am drinking pint of water at the mo to prepare.

I'm desperate to do summat after 2 days sat scoffing indoors.

Tiredemma Fri 27-Dec-13 08:18:51

I really recommend this book-

Its written by a complete 'non-runner' who decided to train for a Marathon- very funny and written by a woman who I think we could all relate too.

i have read other half marathon/full marathon books which are much more technical etc- but the Dawn Dais book has real witty, laugh out loud passages.

Sirzy Fri 27-Dec-13 08:21:43

Sassy I have water too really dehydrated after the last few days of eating and drinking! I have done half an hour on the wii fit but its not the same as getting out running.

Thanks tired I will have a look at that.

RubyLovesShopping Fri 27-Dec-13 08:22:26

Sirzy I've just decided to give it a miss this morning too. I will be doing the 10k in May and vaguely considering a half marathon next year too. At the moment I'm trying to run 3-4 times a week, 4 miles mostly with one 6 mile (10k) a week. Which half marathon are you doing next year?

Sirzy Fri 27-Dec-13 08:29:44

The English Half Marathon in Warrington next Septmember.

Tempted to sign up for another 10k in March too, and want to find a 5k before then if I can just to get me into the swing of things!

Flossiechops Fri 27-Dec-13 08:30:08

I'll Join you. Been running for quite a few yrs mainly to try and keep my weight down! Went from nothing to a few 10ks and half marathon in the same yr. Did the Birmingham half this October and knocked 20 mins off my best time but had put quite a few 10-12 mile runs in previously. I did join a running club at first but I much prefer running alone with my iPod on. smile

Tiredemma Fri 27-Dec-13 08:59:00

do you run in S park flossiechops?

RubyLovesShopping Fri 27-Dec-13 09:03:40

Flossie I prefer running alone too, can't wait for lighter mornings and evenings again. Been looking at half marathons this morning inspired by this thread- thinking of doing one in May, gives me 5 months to train, never gone further than 10k before and it's twice as far!

Flossiechops Fri 27-Dec-13 10:14:48

Tiredemma yes I certainly do! Sometimes just the roads around but if I do a longer one then I go into the park. Definitely signing up for the fun run this yr as I missed it last yr smile

ShrekTheHalls Fri 27-Dec-13 10:20:41

can I join you? I've already accidentally ambushed the mn10k thread blush

Sirzy Fri 27-Dec-13 10:22:48

Flossie - I prefer running alone, means I'm not slowing anyone else down!

Hi Shrek!

OhOneOhTwoOhThree Fri 27-Dec-13 12:57:48

Shrek, you are allowed to be on both grin

RubyLovesShopping Fri 27-Dec-13 13:12:10

Sirzy there's a 10k in tatton park in march I think.

Tiredemma Fri 27-Dec-13 13:58:41

flossie im on holiday for Fun Run this year but have signed up for Lichfield HM and the BHam HM also. Will also do some 10ks in the park no doubt through rest of the months

Sirzy Fri 27-Dec-13 14:16:17

Thanks Ruby will have a look.

louwn Fri 27-Dec-13 17:40:11

Sirzy, I went from only being able to run a couple of minutes at a time to a half marathon in about 10 months. Well actually before the 1st one I'd only done 9 miles but I ran the whole distance. I'm training for a marathon at the moment and picking up running after a 4 month break was loads easier - I just went out and ran 4 miles without stopping. Your body remembers somehow.

Flossiechops Fri 27-Dec-13 18:36:48

tiredemma I may a loo at the Lichfield half. The Birmingham one was absolutely awful for me. I did 2 miles at 7.5 minute miles and peaked, I was over dressed as it was a mild day and was so hot. I also had a job interview on the Monday and was shitting myself - I was like a zombie running round (I got the job!). I really hated the entire run and never found my stride. I find it very hard to get out in the winter months but have been trying to keep it up but only doing 3-4 miles. I need to step it up once the dc are back in school but I'm starting my new job in January so it will be hard as I'm a morning runner. Oh well less moaning and more running, dh bought me some new kit for Xmas so that may help...!

Sirzy Fri 27-Dec-13 18:50:00

I hope my body remembers what to do when I go tomorrow!

A friend wants to go out for a run with me soon but he is so much faster than me I am worried about slowing him down

Flossiechops Fri 27-Dec-13 20:34:18

Sirzy that's why I go alone. Dh is a good runner but far too fast for me - I hate being put under pressure.

RubyLovesShopping Fri 27-Dec-13 20:43:08

I run with two friends as well as alone. I much prefer alone but one of the friends is faster and fitter and it helps me keep going. The other friend is slower and sometimes we walk for a minute or two, it's more sociable but running wise I don't get much out of it.

DulcetMoans Fri 27-Dec-13 22:57:52

My running buddy went off to have a baby in Oct so been a bit of a lonely runner lately. I do like the headphones in approach but looking forward to her coming back. Helps me to keep going if there's two of us fighting through it!

First run in two weeks tomorrow. Hopefully the rain can hold off.

karatekimmi Sat 28-Dec-13 16:03:53

Hi can I join too, my name is kimmi and I'm a parkrunner!

I try to get out at least twice a week, but at least I manage my parkrun a week which is better than nothing!! I'll catch up and post again when I'm on my laptop, I hate posting on my stupid iPhone!

Sirzy Sun 29-Dec-13 09:14:00

I would love a park run locally. I think the nearest is about half an hours drive which isn't really practical

Mitchy1nge Sun 29-Dec-13 09:43:25

I really really want to do parkrun, printed my barcodes off AGES ago (mine are both half an hour away in opposite directions) but there is always the competing interest of a group Long Run on Saturday mornings which is more beneficial to me at the moment - after the marathon I think I will

(I do find 5k much more tiring than 25k though, I suppose it's because you go flat out all the way round?)

Sirzy Sun 29-Dec-13 12:43:52

First run in 3 weeks done. Just over 2km in 19 mins so quite slow but at least I'm back at it now. Hopefully out again in the morning

Mitchy1nge Sun 29-Dec-13 13:04:21

well done smile is it nice and sunny where you are? it makes such a difference to me

Sirzy Sun 29-Dec-13 13:12:42

Ye weather was pretty much perfect for running today. Bit cold at first but quickly warmed up.

Was meant to be out first thing with a friend but he slept in so I went on my own rather than making excuses to stay in.

BellsaRinging Sun 29-Dec-13 13:38:05

Can I join? Mainly a park and 5k runner but did a 10k before Christmas. I am also vaguely considering a half inSept time-any recommendations? I am a wimp and want a flat one! Also needs to be autumn time as I run in the morning before work and I can't face over 5k inthe dark witha headtorch!
Also planning some 10ks in the NY. Maybe Leamington regency run. Has anyone done it before?

EauRougemasTree Sun 29-Dec-13 14:19:48

Went out again today, managed just over 10k but reeeeeally slow.

Bells, the Eastern is in October and is flat.

EauRougemasTree Sun 29-Dec-13 14:20:08

Link fail. Great Eastern Run.

BellsaRinging Sun 29-Dec-13 15:05:25

Thanks eau. Thatlooks just the thing, and not too far away either!

RubyLovesShopping Sun 29-Dec-13 15:20:05

Bellsa I am also thinking of a half next year, where in the uk are you as I have a flattish one in mind (pm if you need re location) in Oct but that means training through the warmer months which I don't enjoy, there's another half I may do in May which would be better as majority if training in cooler months. What do you seasoned runners think best?

RubyLovesShopping Sun 29-Dec-13 15:22:05

Ps I did 5k yesterday morn very slowly. I'm better at running slower at linger distances than doing 5k park runs, plus again none within 30 mins of here.

OhOneOhTwoOhThree Sun 29-Dec-13 16:11:46

Ruby - I prefer training in the summer, just because there is so much more daylight. But spring events are good too, as the training keeps you going through the winter smile

Sirzy Sun 29-Dec-13 16:12:44

I have only had autumn and winter running so far, looking forward to lighter nights in order to be able to go for a run when DS is asleep will make fitting runs in much easier.

BellsaRinging Sun 29-Dec-13 16:44:38

Hi Ruby. I am midlands based-near coventry/leicester.

Fishandjam Sun 29-Dec-13 16:58:55

Can I join? Though all this talk of 10k and half marathons is a bit intimidating... I just aspire to doing 5k in less than 35 mins. I prefer off-road running but this time of year, round here at least, that just means a ton of wet clay stuck to each foot.

There was a Truly Crap Runners thread last summer but it died in August.

Sirzy Sun 29-Dec-13 17:00:15

Truly crap runner would suit me to the ground!

ShouldEAUldAcquaintanceBeForgo Sun 29-Dec-13 17:04:53

Fishandjam, you should come and do Parkrun one weekend, that's mostly off-road and not too much clay. And you can get a rubbish bacon butty in the cafe afterwards.

ShouldEAUldAcquaintanceBeForgo Sun 29-Dec-13 17:06:13

Dammit, my festive name change is missing a letter angry

Fishandjam Sun 29-Dec-13 18:38:11

Yes to Parkrun - gotta start somewhere! (Looking at the website, I think I now qualify as Veteran class hmm grin)

OT, I thought about festively being SmokedSalmonAndCranberrySauce but it was a bit long.

RubyLovesShopping Sun 29-Dec-13 18:46:14

Those of you who have done half marathons before what kind of time did you do it in? Wondering what's a reasonable expectation to set for myself.

MrsSippie Sun 29-Dec-13 18:55:08

ooooh, I'm supposed to be doing the Cambridge half marathon - and the Histon one in June smile

OhOneOhTwoOhThree Sun 29-Dec-13 19:00:47

Ruby - I have improved from about 2:45 to 2:20 for a HM. I can't imagine getting any faster, and don't particularly want to.

MrsSippie Sun 29-Dec-13 19:01:06

And would second reading the Dawn Dias book - it had me laughing very loudly at times. Does anyone do the park runs in Milton? I have my barcodes but just haven't made it there yet..

Tiredemma Sun 29-Dec-13 19:34:43

Ruby I did the great north run in 2.29.

Would love to shave about 15 mins off that, although to be honest, for me its not about the time, its about getting to the end in a reasonable state!

Fishandjam Sun 29-Dec-13 20:28:24

mrssippie, I'd be starting with the Hinchingbrooke parkrun but I know Milton CP well. Though I get royally lost each time I run there blush. When is their parkrun?

ShouldEAUldAcquaintanceBeForgo Sun 29-Dec-13 20:30:41

You can't get lost at a Parkrun, you just follow everyone else. You're only in trouble if you're first and you don't know the way grin

MrsSippie Sun 29-Dec-13 20:36:21

Saturday mornings at 9am shock

ShouldEAUldAcquaintanceBeForgo Sun 29-Dec-13 20:56:20

That's why I don't get to parkrun very often. 9am saturday is fine for me but DH takes some persuading to get up that early.

ShrekTheHalls Sun 29-Dec-13 23:15:31

found a couple of local parkruns which look nice. I know both venues well but would have to bank on getting back on time for dd's tennis lesson at 10... we're looking at 30-40mins max, are we?

OhOneOhTwoOhThree Mon 30-Dec-13 00:00:08

Shrek - depends on the parkrun - my local one starts the briefing at 9:00, then there's a bit of a walk to the start so it can be 9:10 before we set off. Then 30 mins or so running time, a few minutes waiting for your bar code to be scanned and a quick chat before you get away - I'm usually home by about 10 (am 5-10 mins cycle away).

I went to another one recently where the briefing was at 8.45 to allow time to get to the start by 9:00. It was a lot smaller so there was less waiting time at the end, so although I ran slower because I didn't know the course, I was done sooner.

MrsSippie Mon 30-Dec-13 09:02:49

I've been using the endomondo app the past few months but I downloaded c2 10K a while back and am going to give that one a go today. It looks quite tough..

Sirzy Mon 30-Dec-13 09:58:11

yesterday may have been good running weather, today wasn't!

OhOneOhTwoOhThree Mon 30-Dec-13 10:13:52

It's horrible weather here. Hoping to get a leg stretch in later on.

ShouldEAUldAcquaintanceBeForgo Mon 30-Dec-13 10:14:40

It's crap here too, I'm glad I went yesterday. Today I'm going to be resting and foam rollering.

MerryBuddha Mon 30-Dec-13 10:18:04

Can I join in to!

I have my first half marathon in March. Training was going well until October when I came down with a virus, which meant I was unable to run (though I did do a 10k at the end of November). I am now feeling better but haven't yet started running again. Training needs to start immediately if I want to get to the finishing line.

DulcetMoans Mon 30-Dec-13 10:20:29

Managed to convince DH to come running today but what has happened to the weather?! I doubt I can get him out in this. Don't fancy it much myself!

Sirzy Mon 30-Dec-13 10:22:12

As soon as I stepped out the door it started raining and I felt like I was running into the wind the whole time. Wanted to go out before the weather got too bad but was obviously too late!

Hi merry, good luck!

MrsSippie Mon 30-Dec-13 10:32:39

If I actually got out of bed I may stand a chance of getting out grin

emmief77 Mon 30-Dec-13 11:04:08

Oooohhh can I join?? I have just started a new thread as my local running group is going to fold .... have just entered a 5 mile race in March to keep me motivated, and have also downloaded NHS 5K plus podcast (need help using this with mapmyrun)

Naebother Tue 31-Dec-13 15:07:25

Can I join you?

I started running in June 2013. Did c25k and ran my first 5k in September. Ran my first ( and only so far) 10 k in November and have another at beginning February.

I'm toying with the idea of trying for a place in a half marathon next October. Is that doable?

At the moment I'm doing 5 k 3 x a week and park run once a month. Guess to aim for another 10k I'm going to have to get longer runs in at weekends in January.

DulcetMoans Tue 31-Dec-13 15:46:26

Just been out for a little-ish one. Mapmyrun didn't register my first mile though as I managed to pause it as I put it away. Don't you hate that!? Feel like I've been done out of a mile now!

Sirzy Tue 31-Dec-13 20:57:24

Oh no Dulcet, how frustrating. I get annoyed when runkeeper manages to jump and add a few km to the run, although at least that makes my times look better...

I am determined to go for a run tomorrow, start the year as I mean to go on

Sirzy Tue 31-Dec-13 20:58:41

Hi, emmie and Nae.

Nae - I hope that is doable, I have never ran futher that 7k (and a lot of that was jogging/walking) and I have a half marathon in September

ShouldEAUldAcquaintanceBeForgo Tue 31-Dec-13 21:03:40

It's absolutely doable, most of the beginner half marathon training plans I've seen are for people running 5k three times a week and are between 12-16 weeks long.

Sirzy Wed 01-Jan-14 09:49:31

2.5km in 20 mins. Getting back into it now!

Trying to decide whether to do a 10k or a 5k in March. Think I will see how January goes and take it from there!

MrsSippie Wed 01-Jan-14 09:53:14

I've hid that'plateau'.Can do about 3.8 K, sometimes 4 fairly easily (well in about 25 mins!) and then just sort of stop and can't be arsed to de anymore. It's like I'm comfortable and don't want to try any harder. Need to either speed it up, do further slower or do these horrible interval things sad

ShouldEAUldAcquaintanceBeForgo Wed 01-Jan-14 10:15:19

The first couple of k of any run is horrible, even for some experienced runners; it doesn't mean that you can't run further. Try doing something like run 20 mins, walk 3 mins, run 20 mins- you might surprise yourself!

Do you do any cross training? I'm doing the 30 day shred two or three days a week and I've found it's massively improved my running.

Also sometimes simple things like changing your playlist or your route can make a big difference.

Sirzy Wed 01-Jan-14 10:31:24

MrsSippie- would entering a 5k race give you something to work toward to give you that extra push.

Should, I want to get back to doing the 30 day shred, might start that in the morning.

MerryBuddha Wed 01-Jan-14 11:42:22

I will go out for a run today, though it does look horrible out there and I have yet to leave my bed.

Sirzy Wed 01-Jan-14 11:42:55

I am glad I went when I did horrible out there now

DulcetMoans Wed 01-Jan-14 11:47:45

I'm not sure it's even possible to run where we are! It's horrible out there; so very windy and absolutely peeing it down!

Complete respect to anyone that has gone for it!

Sirzy Wed 01-Jan-14 11:49:40

thats what it is like here now, can't believe how much the weather has changed in a few hours!

OhOneOhTwoOhThree Wed 01-Jan-14 11:54:46

I went to parkrun this morning <polishes halo>. Glad I was up and out early, it didn't rain until I was driving home but the course was cross country and a total mudbath as it was, would have been awful in the rain.

Sippie - is there a parkrun near you?

Eau - good idea about the shred - I should dig my DVD out for non-running days smile

MrsSippie Wed 01-Jan-14 13:44:28

I think I will start the parkrun - it's about 2 miles away and I got my barcodes about four months ago !! Of course, had it all planned for today - different route, different songs and.....rain, wind and cold. I may be hard but I'm not that hard. If it calms down I'll definitely go out later grin

MrsSippie Wed 01-Jan-14 13:45:12

Oh, as far as x training goes, I cycle about 20 miles a week to work and back. Used to swim a lot but don't go quite so often now.

ShouldEAUldAcquaintanceBeForgo Wed 01-Jan-14 14:13:47

Do you do any strength training?

MrsSippie Wed 01-Jan-14 14:59:15

What could I do?

ShouldEAUldAcquaintanceBeForgo Wed 01-Jan-14 15:14:17

You could follow a video like 30DS or just do loads of squats, lunges, crunches etc. Depends on what suits you. I do a video because I need someone shouting and telling me what to do next but you could easily just write your own plan or follow one from the internet.

emmief77 Wed 01-Jan-14 22:08:03

okay have printed out the BUPA 10k for beginners plan... going out running tomorrow grin

Sirzy Thu 02-Jan-14 17:59:37

I think I will have to download that emmie, might help me go further and possibly even faster!

feetheart Thu 02-Jan-14 19:20:21

Can I join?
I went out this morning for the first time this year and am all fired up smile

Started running about 5 years ago when DS(3 at the time) broke his leg and I needed some head space. Have stopped and started a few times but have run a few 5k, a very crowded (and therefore annoying) 10k and two half marathons - Silverstone in 2012 and Great North Run in 2013 (tiredemma I was about a minute ahead of you smile)
I'm also a solo early morning runner and haven't made it to the local club and there are no local park runs though Saturday mornings are a bit busy in our house even if there was one.
Not sure what I want to do this year but would like a series of races planned, including at least 1 or 2 halfs, to challenge myself.
Have entered Colour5k in Northampton in June (I spotted you Buddha) and have just entered the ballot for GNR again here as it was BRILLIANT smile Want a few more though.

I found this book great with very sensible, easy, 3 x a week programmes that have got me through two half marathons. However the one recommended on here sounds well worth a read.

Sirzy Thu 02-Jan-14 19:25:31

My friend did one of those colour runs last year which looks great fun!

I saw the electric run which looks great but is the week before the manchester 10k so don't think I will be doing it this year

feetheart Fri 03-Jan-14 06:12:11

Oooo, that looks good Sirzy. Getting a bit pricy for this year but have bookmarked it for next year. There are some Glow in the Park runs that look good but only found out about my local one at last minute last year and was already busy.
Must admit that Where's Wally Run looks silly enough smile

Sirzy Fri 03-Jan-14 09:04:47

They both look great. I think I need to hunt for something fun like that locally.

beatofthedrum Fri 03-Jan-14 09:20:55

Hi everyone, this looks like a perfect running thread for me, I'd love to join. I started running last April, did a 10k in May and a half marathon in October - was such a buzz and I love it, keen to put in the hours this year! Have a half marathon coming up in April - in St. Andrews. Hoping to beat my time (2 hrs 11) though not sure I really could, it was one of those runs where everything just went as well as it could and I don't think I've anything more in me!!

OhOneOhTwoOhThree Fri 03-Jan-14 09:46:26

It's a gorgeous morning here so I'm going to do laps of the park until it starts to rain. My aim is to do 5 laps, which is 10K, as long as the weather stays fine grin

Sirzy Fri 03-Jan-14 09:52:46

I have just done 2km but the wind getting up here

MrsSippie Fri 03-Jan-14 10:07:46

Managed to get out yesterday and did just over 3K. I'm a bit worried as I am having surgery on the 13th and will need to rest for three weeks. Half marathon is in March so not sure I'll be ready for it sad

OhOneOhTwoOhThree Fri 03-Jan-14 11:14:16

6.4 miles done. It started off sunny and breezy, but 4.5 miles in it suddenly went dark and started pelting down so I had to run home in the wind and rain. My hands are still freezing.

RubyLovesShopping Fri 03-Jan-14 17:52:34

I did 5 miles this morning, was trying to 6 but the coastal run I run along was being closed because of the high tides so thought best not to continue!
I'm struggling with what to eat at the moment as for me the whole point is to get fitter and Lise weight but running makes me so hungry. I think I need to research what to eat whilst also training for a hm. In theory the exercise itself should lead to weight loss - shouldn't it???

OhOneOhTwoOhThree Fri 03-Jan-14 17:58:09

Well done Ruby smile.

When I was marathon training I was permanently hungry - I found lots of protein helped after a long run e.g. cheese, ham, milk shake, scrambled eggs.

I toned up, and got smaller but didn't ever weigh myself so not sure if I lost weight.

It's all creeping back on now...

Mitchy1nge Fri 03-Jan-14 18:00:32

I felt heroic achieving just over 4 miles with my dog in a hailstorm (it was lovely when we set out hmm) no wonder I had this in my head the whole way round.

karatekimmi Fri 03-Jan-14 18:42:19

Well I managed my new year parkrun (and if you look very closely in the paper, you can see a bit of my arm!!)
I should be park running tomorrow but it depends on the weather feel guilty dragging mini kimmi out in the rain
I'm contemplating joining a running club, but not sure how it would fit into my schedule (I tend to do work in the evenings and I'd need a babysitter)

Sirzy Fri 03-Jan-14 18:48:46

Ruby, what to eat has been confusing me to. I have tried researching and think it is more protien I need!

ThursdayLast Fri 03-Jan-14 19:01:07

Hello all!
Hope you don't mind me crashing?
I'm a casual runner, started as a resolution 2012, and now really getting back in the swing after preggo and baby.

No park runs near me (massive shame) and have not been brave enough to sign up for anything else so I didn't want to appear on the other threads.

No running for me today-I'm in the southwest wink

Mitchy1nge Fri 03-Jan-14 19:08:59

am ever fascinated by what to eat, have currently set MFP to aim for 225g carbs a day, 42g fat and 56g protein

it rarely works out like that though

Mitchy1nge Fri 03-Jan-14 19:16:17

in fact, thanks to magical pie charts on MFP app I can see that most weeks it works out at 50% carbs, 30% fat and 20% protein - am sure the fat and protein should swap places there? blush

Naebother Fri 03-Jan-14 21:11:51

Did 7.6 k yesterday in the sunshine. So feeling more positive about running this 10k in 4 weeks time.

I'm using Mfp too. It's interesting to see the breakdown. I eat waaay too much sugar. Total addiction.

Sirzy Fri 03-Jan-14 21:17:09

Hi Thursday!

I use MFP to, always over on the carbs no matter how hard I try to keep them down though. I still need to lose another 2.5 stone so really need to try to focus the diet side but get it right for running.

Mitchy1nge Fri 03-Jan-14 21:19:47

can you run properly on reduced carbs?

have been advised anything from 60-75% of daily cals should come from carbs (is for marathon training but also probably all running?)

pleeeease add me on mfp, it's the same name as here but with an i instead of 1

Fishandjam Fri 03-Jan-14 22:18:06

My first parkrun tomorrow. I don't half pick my weather...

Sirzy Sat 04-Jan-14 08:38:23

Mitchy - thats what I am struggling with, eating too many carb hinders my weight loss but not eating enough makes the running harder. If I am planning a big run I always try to make sure the meal before is quite carb heavy but otherwise I try to limit them a bit

ThursdayLast Sat 04-Jan-14 10:49:17

5.25 miles done this morning whilst baby naps and before the weather turns!
Think there's some kind of horsey meet on in the village, I had to tuck into the hedge a trillion times to make way for the massive boxes.
So that equates to just over 8k in about 50 mins, can anyone tell me if that is a good time?

Fishandjam Sat 04-Jan-14 12:26:44

Parkrun? More like Tough Mudder without the 12 foot walls and electric shocks. Still, I wasn't last grin

Sirzy Sat 04-Jan-14 12:30:36

Thursday - I would be over the moon with that!

ThursdayLast Sat 04-Jan-14 12:52:41

Thank you Sirzy! I wasn't disappointed, but I literally have no idea about what is a good pace etc etc. I run back roads with hills, horse boxes and other various obstacles smile

Well done fish! How did you do? I hope the weather was kind to you?

Fishandjam Sat 04-Jan-14 13:27:25

Thursday, 8k in 50 mins is 6 mins 15 secs per km. Sounds more than respectable! I'd be made up if my pace was as fast as that.

Weather not kind - peed it down the whole time, and I and eaurouge got ridiculously muddy and damp. But it was rather fun!

Fishandjam Sat 04-Jan-14 13:29:01

Oh, did it in just under 43 mins. Not bad given the conditions underfoot and my overall state of unfitness.

EauRouge Sat 04-Jan-14 13:35:37

I think we did pretty well! You should have seen DH's face when I got home grin As predicted, the first thing he mentioned was the car. Definitely bringing bin bags next week!

Sirzy Sat 04-Jan-14 13:39:26

I am currently running at about 8.50 per km, can get it to 8.30 on a good day. Not to bothered about pace though as long as I can go the distance. Someone has to come last so it may aswell be me!

OhOneOhTwoOhThree Sat 04-Jan-14 13:40:01

Arf at Eau's DH (I was expecting the same from my DH, but managed to sneak in without him seeing me). Well done fishandjam!

Thursday - sounds like a good pace to me, but I'm not fast smile

ThursdayLast Sat 04-Jan-14 13:40:02

Well done both of you! There's something quite fun about running in the mud for sure grin

OhOneOhTwoOhThree Sat 04-Jan-14 13:41:00

I agree Sirzy, I prefer distance to speed. 10 minute miles are about as fast as I can go.

Naebother Sat 04-Jan-14 14:13:36

Sirzy I'm the same. Slow but steady.

Did 4k this morning in the pissing rain and wind. Deliberately short to recover from my longer one on Thursday.

I'm doing 3 runs a week. 1 x 5 k. 1 x longer run building up to 9k by end of month. 1 x shorter recovery run of 4k.

Interesting to read about cutting carbs down impacting on energy levels.

I'm going to cut down sugar and up protein to see if it helps .

ElvisJesusAndCocaCola Sun 05-Jan-14 07:52:38

Can I join? Runner here after doing c25k spring 2012, got serious quite quickly, injured spring 2013 but back running again. Entering first half marathon in March too - Lydd in kent.

We are incredibly lucky to have a park run in my small village...but I never do it as I do a long run on Saturday mornings.

I am beginning to bore RL people with running chat so would love to bore you here instead!

Only thin is I measure all my runs in miles, not km.

Running tomorrow after work - a regular 10k with a friend.

EauRouge Sun 05-Jan-14 08:04:45

Hello Elvis. Sounds like we're at a similar level, I'm also doing my first half in March.

Arsing arse sad I knew my trail shoes weren't a perfect fit but one of my toes is killing me this morning. I can still go on my long run today, right? Right? This is the wrong month to need new trail shoes, I am poor.

RRudolphR Sun 05-Jan-14 08:06:12

I haven't run for months

I'm going to get up and go NOW!
...... just need to find my stuff hmm

Sirzy Sun 05-Jan-14 08:16:40

I am getting new running shoes for my birthday. Never thought I would see the day I was excited by running shoes!

ThursdayLast Sun 05-Jan-14 08:20:09

I got new nikes for my 30th last year, definitely a sign of the times sad

Sirzy Sun 05-Jan-14 08:22:35

Enjoy your run Rudolph.

It is my 30th too, I am getting an ascics pair which my friend says are good - trying to research just confused me!

EauRouge Sun 05-Jan-14 08:32:47

My trail shoes are Asics, they are very narrow so if you have wide feet then maybe look at another brand. I got a gait analysis done recently and I got a pair of Brooks for running on the road which are much comfier than the Asics ones. Wish I'd waited until my gait analysis before I bought the Asics hmm

RRudolphR Sun 05-Jan-14 09:09:28


took it steady and it wasn't as bad as I thought smile
Thanks for inspiring me x

I've done the birthday running shoes thing and got a new cycle helmet for Christmas too!

EauRouge Sun 05-Jan-14 09:14:44

Wow, you weren't kidding when you said you were going NOW grin Glad it went well. How far did you go?

Sirzy Sun 05-Jan-14 09:15:01

I have very narrow feet so hoping these help and are comfier Eau.

Fantastic rudolph. I quite fancy the idea of getting a bike but think I would probably kill myself on one!

Tiredemma Sun 05-Jan-14 09:27:30

Ive got Nike LunarGlide for pavement/roads and some AMAZING Adidas Kanadia for Trail/park runs.

think I might need some new road ones soon though- any one try Brooks?

EauRouge Sun 05-Jan-14 09:30:11

Yes, I've got Brooks Adrenaline GTS. They are brilliant, I have quite wide feet but they're just right.

I've heard good things about Kanadias, is it true that the sizes come up quite small though?

Tiredemma Sun 05-Jan-14 09:32:07

Im normally a size 3 but my Adidas are a 4.5! so comfy though and excellent for trail.

Off to look at some Brooks ( I saw them on the back of my magazine last night and liked the look of them)

RRudolphR Sun 05-Jan-14 09:35:59

EauR - not far! A 30 minute trot.

It's been a while so I didn't want to overdo it and put myself off goingt for another week grin

EauRouge Sun 05-Jan-14 09:36:58

Thanks, they're not too pricey either- only £21 online.

ElvisJesusAndCocaCola Sun 05-Jan-14 11:05:55

That's fab though, rudolf. It's so easy to put if off, isn't it?

I've left my trainers at my parents' house after christmas angry. Can get them back In a couple of weeks but had to go out and buy new ones as couldn't not run for that long. Cheapos - I hope they don't rub or give an injury sad

Eau - are you doing a Cambridge half, did you say up thread? I live in Norfolk, always looking for local-ish runs. The Lydd half is near my parents, can't really travel too far for a run these days. At least our runs will both be flat!

EauRouge Sun 05-Jan-14 11:11:35

I'm not doing the Cambridge one, I'm doing the Swavesey one. I think the Cambridge one is pretty popular. They do a boundary run as well as the main half, which is either a full or half marathon.

EATmum Sun 05-Jan-14 12:09:21

Can I join? Doing HM in Richmond in about 10 weeks. Even if I have to bloody walk the thing! Off for a run shortly, but nervous that it'll be too little too late ...

MrsSippie Sun 05-Jan-14 13:22:50

I supposed to be doing the Cambridge one grin Unbelievably, have ricked my back - cleaning my stupid teeth. I did it on Friday, and it seems 'ok' now, so I may have a trot later. It seems like it's one thing after the other - I have tennis elbow anyway, my calf has been playing up for weeks and now this sad

ElvisJesusAndCocaCola Sun 05-Jan-14 13:39:07

EAT, I think 10 weeks is fine. How much running are you currently doing? Lots of plans in women's running mag are not much longer than that, though you may only be running the full distance for the first time on the day. Sounds a bit hilly to me!

ElvisJesusAndCocaCola Sun 05-Jan-14 13:40:31

MrsSippie, poor you. So frustrating, isn't it? Especially when you just want to get on with running. When I got injured I went to a specialist before starting again, as I would rather be running for years from now than muck it up through impatience. Having said that, I have run plenty of times when worrying about niggles!

Hope you recover soon.

EauRouge Sun 05-Jan-14 14:08:55

DH has tennis elbow and an osteopath sorted him out. Hope your back and calf are better soon!

9 miles in the bag despite my toe being a bit sore, going to have a fry up and relax now- DH has taken the DDs out so I have the house to myself!

OhOneOhTwoOhThree Sun 05-Jan-14 14:38:28

I am doing the Cambridge boundary half, as the other Cambridge one was full by the time I thought about signing up. From memory they are a week apart.

Well done on your 9 miles Eau - I was thinking of running today, but legs are tired after a few consecutive days running so I will go tomorrow.

MrsSippie Sun 05-Jan-14 14:40:28

Thanks. Well I bit the bullet - did a load of stretches and pilates stuff and have just been out grin I ran for 24 minutes, but the stupid GPS wasn't working for some reason so have no idea how far I did! However, not too fussed really, chuffed I managed so long after a break. Back ok, elbow ok, calf a bit sire, but hopefully I can get back on with now. Sitting with leg up and frozen peas on!!

MrsSippie Sun 05-Jan-14 14:41:14

sore! not sire..

Sirzy Sun 05-Jan-14 14:48:46

Glad you managed to get our MrsSippie.

I am looking forward to DS returning to pre-school in the morning so I can go out for a long(ish) run.

EATmum Sun 05-Jan-14 15:50:22

Very pleased as I managed 8 miles today. I am massively inconsistent in what I can manage - last time I went out I struggled with 3 miles! but 8 is the longest I've done so far.hopefully this makes the half more likely... NB the route is NOT the hilly bit of Richmond, it follows the river route - not that I checked that specifically before booking or anything ...

Fishandjam Sun 05-Jan-14 15:51:24

Just found out that a friend of mine is doing a Janathon - min 5k every day during January shock

Well done to eau, Mrs and EAT on their weekend runs. I'll go out tomorrow night and then our office twice-a-week bootcamp starts again Tuesday. I have a feeling the instructor will brutalise us as a punishment for Xmas mince pies...

Blimey, if my school PE teacher could see me now!

Sirzy Sun 05-Jan-14 16:05:08

lol Fish, I would love to run passed the field at my old school when they are out and stick two fingers up to the dragon PE teacher as I go!

ElvisJesusAndCocaCola Sun 05-Jan-14 17:07:48

Haha EAT, first 10k I ever did was in Richmond Park, about 10 years ago. First 2k was uphill sad

Well done to those who ran today. I do love the headspace of a long run at the weekend, combined with the need to go slow and not push myself. Relaxing. I struggle with speed sessions so don't do them as often as I should.

10k with running partner tomorrow.

MrsSippie Sun 05-Jan-14 17:23:29

I like the look of Janathon - may give it a go...

EauRouge Sun 05-Jan-14 17:40:01

I'm already doing Jantastic. I can't run every day, I must not deviate from my HM training plan <clings onto plan>

ElvisJesusAndCocaCola Sun 05-Jan-14 17:46:49

What is Jantastic? Janathon sounds interesting but exhausting!

EauRouge Sun 05-Jan-14 17:51:51

Jantastic. It's one of those things where you pledge to run a certain number of times per week and score points on how many you manage. I wasn't going to bother but loads of people on the running forum I go on are doing it so I joined the team.

karatekimmi Sun 05-Jan-14 18:17:30

I'm doing Jantastic I think you could always make a mumsnet team (I am already with Telford parkrun though).

I'm braving a running club tomorrow night, I am sure they will be friendly, and they are doing a couch to 5k club, so they must want really slow runners grin

I think the Janathon as I understand it is any exercise everyday for January, so 30DS and other cross training counts i'm not doing it, and I could be wrong ...

MrsSippie Sun 05-Jan-14 18:30:51

Bugger. I keep forgetting I will be 'out of action' from the 13th until the beginning of February sad will do something like Febletic (just made that up!)

karatekimmi Sun 05-Jan-14 18:34:23

Love Febletic, you should patent that!!

MrsSippie Sun 05-Jan-14 18:40:06

you heard it here first wink

ElvisJesusAndCocaCola Sun 05-Jan-14 18:56:17

I'm in smile

Sirzy Sun 05-Jan-14 19:07:01

We can always come up with our own monthly challenges on here - so febletic it will be!

I am just going to register for the jantastic one, I did the running bug no excuses november thing which really helped me

EATmum Sun 05-Jan-14 19:47:28

Does anyone else have the inconsistency thing (or is it my own special trait?) if I'm not totally strange, any tips on improving this would be really welcome. I have a strong feeling it's mostly in my head - for example, the moment I stop running and walk, it's like I'm running in jelly afterwards and I soon stop altogether. Why? (Now worried that this really just is me being weird.)

Sirzy Sun 05-Jan-14 19:49:05

Yes I have that EAT, some days I am fine and can keep going others I really struggle. Not managed to figure what causes it yet though

Signing in.
I started running about 7 weeks ago, and am mostly loving it, but hating the way that you seem to make amazing progress and then go skidding backwards. So about 5 days ago I broke the 5-mile barrier, bit of walking but basically ok. Had done some lovely 4-mile runs so thought I was getting somewhere. Went out today for 4.5 miles and nearly died, had to walk loads, shins killing me, took forever. Very cross.
Why does that happen, and how do you if you're as ridiculously impatient as me get past it?

Massive cross pots EAT!

MrsSippie Sun 05-Jan-14 19:54:26


ElvisJesusAndCocaCola Sun 05-Jan-14 20:08:23

EAT, I try not to walk at all. Through many longer runs I often catch myself thinking, I feel like stopping for a bit. But I know I can do it, so don't. If I did, would never start again. One thing that helps me keep going is do big loops, so that walking home would take ages grin.

Twelve, seven weeks isn't very long for building up to five miles - could it be that you could do with more strengthening and not pushing up distance too quickly?

You're probably right Elvis - I did mention I was impatient, right grin?

EATmum Sun 05-Jan-14 20:26:07

Massively impressed Twelve - took me about a year to get to that point. Glad I'm not the only one to go up and down. Just hoping that my HM will be a 'good' day.

I am eye-wateringly slow too!

Sirzy Sun 05-Jan-14 20:33:03

I think I need to stop myself from walking too, even if it means I don't do as far yet. If I start walking I struggle to get running again

ElvisJesusAndCocaCola Sun 05-Jan-14 21:25:03

Just run really slowly - that's what I do smile

Sirzy Sun 05-Jan-14 21:35:17

I do that anyway!

I am hoping this weather improves by the morning, I am looking forward to a long run but not in a storm!

EATmum Sun 05-Jan-14 22:19:23

When you say to just run really slowly - what would that be? How fast does everyone run on average? I bounce around about 10 mins/mile, starting a little faster, finishing a little slower.

RRudolphR Sun 05-Jan-14 22:24:37

Today a ran at a pace that's slightly faster than I can walk.
Basically. I walk as fast as I can and then break into a trot grin

RubyLovesShopping Sun 05-Jan-14 22:32:38

I did 6 miles today, just under 10k. First few miles were around 10 minutes/mile, the next few were around 11, the last one was 11.43!
But total time was 62 mins which I was pleased with.
Going to continue with my 4/5 mile runs tue and thu and then next weekend try to increase the distance slightly, maybe 6.5 or 7.

RubyLovesShopping Sun 05-Jan-14 22:37:46

EAT I think it is mainly psychological whilst running I think if inly I could stop despite knowing I can stop anytime I want I also know that once I stop once I will run/walk every few minutes for the rest of the run and be annoyed with myself by the end.
Also if you stop it's harder to get back the 'propelling yourself forward momentum' that you achieve while running ( there must be a technical term for it but I don't know itgrin).

RubyLovesShopping Sun 05-Jan-14 22:39:36

And also some days the conditions just aren't right, a few weeks ago I set off just after having a row with dh, then 5 mins in my iPod ran out if charge then it started raining so I just did 2 miles and went home.

EATmum Sun 05-Jan-14 23:13:17

Ruby that definitely strikes a chord. Last time I went out I slipped on some wet leaves (bruising shoulder and ego) and started to walk before I'd got a mile under my belt. After that it was dismal! Such a contrast to today - I just have to keep running I guess, walking even briefly seems fatal! But then I think that if I could train myself to walk and then run again, it'd make my total workout better.

ElvisJesusAndCocaCola Mon 06-Jan-14 05:23:59

I just make sure m legs are doing the action of running, even if I am going at the same pace as I would be walking.

To be honest, for me on a normal run these days this is most likely when I'm going up a steep hill ( there are a few in norfolk!) - if I was to walk I know I would never get going again so I don't worry at all about pace at these points.

ThursdayLast Mon 06-Jan-14 08:04:58

I found this chart last night, quite useful I imagine.
Apologies if it's not new to you smile

It is blowing a hoolie again out there so it'll be cross training for me later I expect.

EATmum Mon 06-Jan-14 08:25:08

Thanks for that link. Afraid I rely on Runkeeper for those calculations!

Sirzy Mon 06-Jan-14 10:13:18

2km in 15 mins. Wasn't in the mood for it today so happy with that

ElvisJesusAndCocaCola Mon 06-Jan-14 12:05:03

That sounds fine, sirzy. That's just under a 10 min mile - nothing wrong with that!

Sirzy Mon 06-Jan-14 12:09:37

Will do me nicely, think I pushed myself a bit too hard today but I have shown I can do it at least just need to gradually build the distances now

OhOneOhTwoOhThree Mon 06-Jan-14 13:33:55

Popping out while the sun is shining.

Sirzy Mon 06-Jan-14 14:07:50

No sun here, weather is horrible now glad I bothered to go out this morning

Fishandjam Mon 06-Jan-14 15:38:00

Nice one sirzy. I'll go out later when DH is home and the kids are in bed. My back is killing me today so the first km will be torture sad But I'll be having a celebratory curry later (wedding anniversary) so will need to get a few calories in the bank, as it were.

It's not raining for once here but it is blowing a hoolie. So not today!

OhOneOhTwoOhThree Mon 06-Jan-14 15:51:31

The sun didn't last long! I almost turned back at 2 miles when it started to rain, but kept going. I was glad I did, as it was only a shower. The sun came out again for a bit, but the sky went awfully dark again on my way back. 6.4 miles in the bank - today is my last full day before going back to work, so there won't be much chance for weekday running after tomorrow.

Fishandjam Mon 06-Jan-14 20:06:32

Just over 4km tonight - two laps of the village. Would any scientists out there care to explain how, on a circular route, I was running into wind the entire time? hmm Time still around 8 mins per km.

Sirzy Mon 06-Jan-14 20:19:33

Fish, I have noticed exactly the same about the wind. I think wind is my most hated weather, makes it horrible. I can cope with running in rain but not wind

Fishandjam Mon 06-Jan-14 20:45:11

The weather gods do it deliberately to spite us, sirzy.

feetheart Mon 06-Jan-14 22:32:06

Weather Gods obviously like the GNR as it was pretty windy there but it was behind us all the way smile

ElvisJesusAndCocaCola Mon 06-Jan-14 23:03:15

I really hate it when you are running and it's windy and you're thinking, what's the problem? This is easy! Then you turn around...

Did 10k with my running partner today. He is really chivalrous: lets me lead, says the pace is challenging, though he could leave me for dust if he wanted. Knowing this does push me on, though, as I am keen to show him I can do it passably. Ran average 9 min mile pace, which I was v pleased with.

Happy anniversary, fish - how was your curry?

Nice one, OhOne - it is easier when the weather holds off until you are at least outside, isn't it?

ThursdayLast Tue 07-Jan-14 11:37:07

Morning all!
Hideous storms overnight. Lovely running conditions this morning though, y'know when it's all clean and blue skied and fresh feeling. Blustery though, so not easy.
Did a shorter run with faster intervals today, which I don't enjoy but hey ho.
Covered about 3.25 miles in half an hour so not too shabby smile

Fishandjam Tue 07-Jan-14 12:51:01

Thanks elvis! The curry was delicious.

Elvis I am so impressed at 10k in 9min miles. I would LOVE to be able to do that.

Right now I am feelling tired, a bit sick, and massively demotivated after my last run being crap and work being horrendously shitty to go back to. I just want to curl up in my bed until March. That is clearly not giong to get me to 10k though!

Anjelika Tue 07-Jan-14 15:46:17

Can I join in please too? I picked up an IT band injury in Spring 2013 so had a couple of months off then built up again slowly with C25K over the summer and since then have been trying to run 3 times a week for anywhere between 30 and 40 minutes. Am toying with doing a local 10k in May and have downloaded a 5k to 10k training app. Started the programme before Xmas but over the break have just been trying to get out when I can so have deviated from it a bit. I mainly work from home so tend to run in the daytime after I've dropped the kids off. Would love to try a park run one weekend too.

Sirzy Tue 07-Jan-14 15:50:41

New shoes have arrived and sooo comfy, hopefully get out for a run tomrorow afternoon!

EauRouge Tue 07-Jan-14 17:31:33

Was windy here today, especially out in the fields. I managed 4 and a bit miles but my bloody Garmin conked out again.

I had a fab race with a fella on a bike as well grin he was asking about running and then challenged me to a sprint to the end of the road. He won, but in my defence I had just run 4 miles.

CooEeeEldridge Tue 07-Jan-14 19:39:34

Can I join too? Had done new trainers for Christmas that I'm hoping will sort my arch pain out, been ill past few days though so missed a couple of runs sad. No aims in particular I did the rat race dirty weekend at burghley last year, which I'll do again and possibly a tough mudder too?

My main aim at the moment would be to get to an 8 minute mile over 5 miles, I'm not sure why I have this particular fixation though?!

CooEeeEldridge Tue 07-Jan-14 19:40:59

Not sure why I said no aim, and then clearly stated one?! hmm

ElvisJesusAndCocaCola Tue 07-Jan-14 21:23:57

Thanks twelve - I couldn't be bothered to go out at all today though smile

I don't know if anyone else has noticed days starting to get lighter - I'm finding that is making me feel more optimistic about running at the moment.

Hi anjelika sounds like you have set yourself an achievable goal. I am jealous of you having time to yourself in the day to run - I have to tag my runs onto the end of working days, as I never have a minute to myself at home. Am currently organising dd2's pre-school hours and hoping to get 3 hours a week to myself to run, though may increase my hours a little from September (teacher) and might have to use pre-school funding for childcare instead sad

Hi coo. I would love to hear about tough mudder: a friend has suggested a team of us do it at some point in the future. 8 min miles over five sounds challenging! That's a proper fast run! What distance do you favour for racing?

MsUumellmahaye Tue 07-Jan-14 22:04:33

hi guys, can i join in? do any have you have asthma? it doesn't bother me when running day to day but tend to get chest infections when i get the cold so this knocks my training progress quite a bit, very frustrating. i have been running for years but i am still the slowest runner ever sad

Anjelika Tue 07-Jan-14 22:48:09

Hi Elvis. I am mostly on my own at the moment with 3 DCs, 2 of which are still at pre school so running after work isn't an option unless I get a babysitter. A friend kindly sat for me over Xmas so I could go out a couple of times. Is anyone running on consecutive days? I've managed to avoid it so far but now I'm going to have to if I am to get 3 runs a week in. Any recommendations for which should be the shorter run?

ElvisJesusAndCocaCola Tue 07-Jan-14 23:14:36

Gosh, anjelika, that sounds full on. Sorry for my flippant remark earlier blush

I aim to run Monday (steady 10k), Tuesday (45 min ish speed work), Thursday (45 min ish stamina session) and Saturday (easy 10 miles plus) - at the moment, though, I am generally doing easy runs instead of speed and stamina runs, but I figure better to run than not at all. Today I chickened out though.

I am just following a programme, not sure of the rationale behind doing these particular runs on these days - though I would imagine that an easy/steady run before a speed work run would loosen the muscles up.

EATmum Tue 07-Jan-14 23:59:28

Wow! 8 minute miles!is that even possible?
[Except where Runkeeper inexplicably fouls up and decides I'm Linford Christie, despite all evidence to the contrary. For my self esteem I have to reluctantly delete those ones ...]

karatekimmi Wed 08-Jan-14 07:34:58

Yes, if I can do 10 minute miles, I'd be happy!! I start slow and finish faster on my normal 5k route, and peak at about 6-7 k on a 10k run, depending on where te downhill sections are grin

I'm another one who has to get a babysitter in if I want to go for a run, although I have a running pushchair so mini kimmi comes out with me for park runs and other weekend runs.

Tiredemma Wed 08-Jan-14 07:42:51

karatekimmi- which running buggy do you have? DD is 4 months old but im looking to purchase one for when she gets to 6 months so I can take her out with me.

EATmum Wed 08-Jan-14 09:35:02

Looking fairly ridiculous in a mix of running/work clothes this morning, because I'm planning a run home at the end of the day. Hope this lovely sunny weather holds!

ThursdayLast Wed 08-Jan-14 09:41:36

Sounds v fetching EATmum wink

CooEeeEldridge Wed 08-Jan-14 09:51:30

Hi Elvis, haven't done a tm yet, but have done this: it was very good fun, I only did the half which was 13 miles, it was tough, but due to the nature of some of the obstacles you generally had a few seconds every so often to catch your breath. It was generally the simple, quick obstacles, such as logs, under / over type things that I found hardest. The climbing ones were actually ok, and felt 'safer' as there were a lot of people doing the same thing. I'd definitely recommend as it was great fun.

My quickest average is 8.11 so I have a good way to go to get to 8! My problem is hills, they just kill me! In terms of general distance, I find 10+ miles I don't really enjoy, 8 is perfect, but 5-6 probably more realistic in terms of fitting in with lifestyle. I'm not sure why the 5 mile fixation has come from, mainly as there's some straight forwards, scenic 5 mile loops I think! grin

ElvisJesusAndCocaCola Wed 08-Jan-14 10:22:57

Thanks Coo, I think a 10k obstacle race would be my limit, could never do a half marathon one!

My tip for finding it hard to run on hills is to avoid them forever! I come from marshland, so super flat, and now live in Norfolk. DH jokes that I can detect a 1% gradient - sometimes I complain about running uphill here, when'd he swears down it is flat. I spend quite a lot of time when route planning thinking about which way to do a loop to get maximum downhill and minimum uphill!

I don't think it would take much to get to 8 if you can already do 8.11; would it be a matter of doing some shorter, say 5k, runs with plenty of threshold/sprints? Then do five miles, alternating 8.30 and 8, then building from there? I don't really know what I am talking about but would probably try that. I am more focused on increasing mileage atm though.

EAT, do you run home form work door to door? I wish I could do that but work 25 miles away!

ThursdayLast Wed 08-Jan-14 10:39:21

Elvis, you are so lucky not to have hills. I live in a valley so literally EVERY road goes up, and straight away too. Man I hate them, but it find them a useful way to measure my fitness ie; I can now jog up some hills that 2yrs ago would have reduced me to hyperventilating and walking.
Every time I conquer a slope I feel v pleased with myself. I also think of the bum toning <vain>

ElvisJesusAndCocaCola Wed 08-Jan-14 13:37:14

Well, apparently I am the only one who feels like there are hills here - everyone else perceives them to be flat. I'm like the princess and the pea grin I try not to complain!

If there were loads of hills here I hope I would try to be positive about them, like you are. I bet your legs are really strong because of them smile

Fishandjam Wed 08-Jan-14 13:57:05

elvis, you're not an ex-Fenlander are you?!

Went for a run this lunchtime - no idea what was wrong, but I just couldn't do it. My calves were burning horribly and I seemed always to be uncoordinated. I ended up giving in after about 2km and having a nice walk instead hmm Does that happen to anyone else ever?

EauRouge Wed 08-Jan-14 14:05:38

Lack of sleep, maybe? Or just feeling a bit off. Everyone has rubbish runs every once in a while.

There are hills where I live. They are hills and I will not be told differently. I keep meaning to do a bit of hill training in the park but somehow I always manage to avoid it.

Yep, that happened on my last run. Which is why I've put it off for 2 days now.. have to go in a minute. Honest, I will.

Sirzy Wed 08-Jan-14 14:20:14

Yes I have days like that. Can never figure why though.

I have just done 2.5km in 20 minutes as I didn't have neighb time to go further today. Got that sort of distance generally very comfy now so just need to go further now.

ElvisJesusAndCocaCola Wed 08-Jan-14 14:43:43

Go on, twelve: no one ever regretted going for a run! Or something like that, anyway.

No, not the fens. Similar though: marshland on the south coast. Flat is all I've ever known smile

Love a nice walk!

CooEeeEldridge Wed 08-Jan-14 15:06:18

Thanks Elvis smile I have tried to follow plans before that say similar to what you've suggested, trouble is I always think the interval training is a waste of time when I actually come to do it (I KNOW that it is not) and then just have a normal run! Maybe I need to look again for a good 10k plan?

Do go twelve, as the others have said you never regret a run. Even if you end up walking for some, it's still good to be out there. Plus, what always gets me through is to think how much you will enjoy your dinner later! Food motivates me for most things grin

Fishandjam Wed 08-Jan-14 15:16:37

I've been mainlining Voltarol and co-codamol since Monday (ooh me back, etc) so maybe that had something to do with it. Frustrating though!

Re hills, one of my cross country runs has a long gradual rise at the halfway mark. It's a right sod to get up, but the plus is that the last sector home has me running down the other side. The only time I can go sub-7 mins per km!

Fishandjam Wed 08-Jan-14 15:17:15

twelve, you been yet? How was it?

ElvisJesusAndCocaCola Wed 08-Jan-14 16:11:16

Am exactly the same as you, coo - go for an easy run when I had planned an interval run. It's not exactly lazy, is how I justify it to myself.

Tiredemma Wed 08-Jan-14 16:22:16

interval or any other kind of run (even a light jog)- You are still doing more than someone who is sat on a couch.

ThursdayLast Wed 08-Jan-14 16:26:55

I hate interval runs.
See earlier post re: hills.
How are you supposed to speed up whilst going up hill???
I try v hard to keep up, fail, and write them off as calorie burners

Sirzy Wed 08-Jan-14 16:40:12

Too many hills around here, I try to plan routes to avoid them as much as possible but its pretty much impossible.

I want to do a 10k in March but the big hill involved is putting me off!

Ha ha, you lot are fierce!

I went. I did 4.73 miles in 52 minutes according to Runkeeper, with two lovely sub-10 ,minute miles to start with then a motherfucker hill of a mile climb home which nearly killed me. But it was MUCH MUCH better than the other day. So I'm glad I went! grin

And I didn't walk for more than 5 paces, and that was only once. <dusts halo>

even if I ran up the hill so slowly I was basically running on the spot like a cartoon character

Sirzy Wed 08-Jan-14 16:42:57

Fantastic twelve, glad you went out

karatekimmi Wed 08-Jan-14 17:03:48

Gosh, this thread moves fast!! I've got a baby trend jogger, had been searching for ages on eBay for a pick-up-able one, and managed to get it for about £40. They are on amazon for about £110. I started running with just me zia petit (three wheels) but I am a very slow plodder and people could probably walk faster than me!!
The baby trend pushes a lot easier but it's harder to steer. It manages the park run every week though!

Off to the runnin club for the second night. I was the slowest in the half marathon training group, but the other option was c25k so I pushed myself!!

RubyLovesShopping Wed 08-Jan-14 17:53:01

Twelve you run around the same as me, I have been doing weekend runs of 10k at just around 60 minutes and weekday runs of 4-5 miles at 42(4m) and 50(5m).

ElvisJesusAndCocaCola Wed 08-Jan-14 17:55:22

That is fabulous, twelve. Way to go!

I think that the thinking behind hill training is that you put the same amount of effort in running uphill as you do when on the flat, so you would naturally slow down. And also that if you have trained on hills you would be more confident racing on them...still not doing hills!

ThursdayLast Wed 08-Jan-14 18:08:49

Well done twelve!
The weather and baby stuff has been against running today, so I did a home workout instead.

EATmum Wed 08-Jan-14 18:25:58

Elvis I'm heading home now - bit disjointed as well as unglamorous! I run to the station then get the train to a stop about 4 miles from home, then run that bit. So I'm now 'glowing' on the train (think packed, commuters) and I forgot my headphones which is a disaster - a colleague has let me have some old ones of hers, but as well as making me look like a cyberman the volume is knackered so I can't listen to my audiobook. I have a suspicion that this won't be a day for record breaking ...!
Nb well done to everyone who has been out - however much I moan about it, I do feel so smug after. smile

OhOneOhTwoOhThree Wed 08-Jan-14 20:04:52

EAT you have inspired me. I was wondering how to fit some running in now I am back at work - I am out of the house from 7-7 - but I hadn't thought of running from the station to my office instead of taking the tube. Genius grin. I will give it a try.

MrsShrek3 Wed 08-Jan-14 22:40:33

hi all
ran for an hour yesterday, no clue how far. a few sprints and a few jogs thrown in the mix.
And ds1 beat me blush grin (never run with your athletics club trained teen?)

Fishandjam Wed 08-Jan-14 22:44:09

Well done twelve!

Bad luck mrsshrek grin

EATmum Thu 09-Jan-14 09:38:01

OhOne, that's nice to hear!
I tried doing a faster run yesterday as I didn't have time for a distance run. I managed the first two miles at under 9 minutes a mile, and seriously thought I was going to collapse. How do people running so much faster than that keep going. I'm guessing they may be just a little (huge) bit fitter than me ...

CooEeeEldridge Thu 09-Jan-14 14:00:54

Had one of those annoying runs today, couldn't finds rythm, laces came undon, tracker inexplicably didn't track, and then got bumped into by a car!!! Car shoots out of car park right in front of me so I go round the back, it then reversed into me!! Caught my bum (poor car) / hip really, no harm done and driver looked v shocked - good! I was angry but no breath to moan so just grin and carried on.

EauRouge Thu 09-Jan-14 14:26:34

Bloody cars, I hate it when they just pull out like they own the road. Pedestrians have right of way! Sorry your run wasn't too good, better one next time.

I had one of those ones today where you just can't slow down, no matter how knackered you're getting and no matter how hard you try to set a sensible pace. Fortunately I was only planning on 5k and I managed to keep it up, so I got a new PB! 27.35. Pretty pleased.

karatekimmi Thu 09-Jan-14 21:03:31

eau no I find it easy to slow down grin sometimes when I realise it, I find I'm only a tiny bit faster than walking!!

Fishandjam Thu 09-Jan-14 21:44:03

Well done on the PB eau!

[Shock] at your car interface cooeee. Glad you're ok though.

No running for me today as it's bootcamp at work on Thursdays. (And Tuesdays too but I missed it this week.) So 45 minutes of sprinting, lunges, squats, burpees, star jumps, sit-ups, push-ups, planks, V sits, kettle weight whanging and other excessive physical jerks. I will hurt tomorrow...

ThursdayLast Thu 09-Jan-14 22:22:20

I'm with karate on that one eau, I don't think I've ever had a day where I can't slow down!
Lovely lovely Pilates class back on tonight, so I'm feeling all stretched out and limber for my no-excuses-f**k-the-weather run in the morning

ThursdayLast Thu 09-Jan-14 22:22:54

And that boot camp sounds amazing

ThursdayLast Fri 10-Jan-14 10:32:17

Checking in, 4.25 miles in 46mins but that was 3 intervals of ten mins running, the rest walking.
I use Adidas micoach on my iPhone, anyone else?
The run today was lush, hardly any wind, a must sitting in the valley making everything look pretty and some friendly dogs on the way smile

Sirzy Fri 10-Jan-14 11:04:39

3.5km done in 22 mins. Very happy with that smile

CooEeeEldridge Fri 10-Jan-14 13:59:06

Well done Eau!

Did a steady (ie slow) 5 miles today, been very disjointed this week. Does anyone find that when they have worries it affects their running? Have some work stuff going on and it really seems to impact my running.

On the plus side I managed to avoid any car interfaces today grin

CooEeeEldridge Fri 10-Jan-14 14:00:12

I use run keeper on my iphone, find it v good, it also syncs with my fitness pal too.

Sirzy Fri 10-Jan-14 14:00:51

I use run keeper too, didn't realise I could sync it with MFP though

I spent all day on my feet yesterday and got home at midnnight, so will aim to do a short easy run tonight.

Have just entered the Great South Run though. EEEK!

Fishandjam Fri 10-Jan-14 14:33:29

I've just got home from the consultant re my back. According to the MRI, I have some degeneration in my lumbar vertebrae. (Boo!) And there's little medically that can be done. (Boo again!) But it's nothing sinister, is unlikely to spread, and I should go about my normal life with painkiller assistance where necessary. (Hurray!) And doing things like running won't make it worse - it's just bad luck in my genetic makeup. (Hurray again - I think!)

Parkrun tomorrow then.

EauRouge Fri 10-Jan-14 15:00:51

Yay for the (sort of) good news! Ready to get muddy again tomorrow? grin

karatekimmi Fri 10-Jan-14 16:57:18

Wimped out of a run tonight and had a chicken burger and chips instead!! I will be doing the park run tomorrow, weather permitting, and there is a 10k fun run on Sunday I want to do, and I have my parents coming up to babysit.

karatekimmi Fri 10-Jan-14 16:58:31

Oh and I use Adidas micoach too, I used to use their programmes, but just use free run to track my route and I like the run score!!

EATmum Fri 10-Jan-14 17:19:29

I did an 8.5 mile run today in 1 hr 26 mins. Am pretty smug about this as it is my longest run ever - though if I'm ever going to achieve this half marathon they are going to have to get quite a bit longer yet! Now though I'm on the sofa shivering and feeling completely done in. I'm hogging the fan heater. Also strangely un-hungry (which I usually am ALL the time).

Sorry to hear about your back Fish. My back is mildly rubbish and has been forever, but I think it has been improved through running. My osteopath said about 2 years ago that I was seeing her for problems about every 6 months, and suggested some exercises to strengthen the muscles that might make a difference. I did the exercises (inconsistently and certainly not recently) and then took up running about 18 months ago. I have to say I assumed I'd be seeing my osteo a lot more after that, but actually I've not been back since. Though I could use some treatment on my calf muscles ...

EauRouge Fri 10-Jan-14 17:34:21

Well done on the 8.5 miles, that's a bloody brilliant time as well. I've heard people say that if you can do 8 miles then you can do a half easily, because the race atmosphere gives you that extra boost. I'm not taking any chances though, I'm going for a 10 miler on Sunday.

EATmum Fri 10-Jan-14 17:41:24

Loving that positive mental attitude, and wish I had it. I think "I've done 8 miles, but I still have to do more than half of that again and I'm near to total collapse" ...

EauRouge Fri 10-Jan-14 17:58:38

What was your pace like for you? What's your fast 5k pace? I did a 5k the other day with an average 5.31p/km pace but my pace for the 9 miles I did last weekend was 6.36, so a heck of a lot slower.

Sirzy Fri 10-Jan-14 18:03:55

They are great time eau and eat. I can run fast or I can run for more than 1km I can't do both!

EATmum Fri 10-Jan-14 19:02:56

Have to admit that I only work in miles. Am old! I'm averaging about ten and a half mins a mile. Which us ok. Gets pretty slow towards the end (basically just leaning forwards and working with momentum!)

ElvisJesusAndCocaCola Fri 10-Jan-14 19:06:08

Sorry to hear about your back, fish. At least it is not going to stop you doing what you want (I hope).

Well done to everyone who has had a good run out - even those who didn't have the run they planned.

Eat, that is fab! I love the feeling of going further than ever before.

Ran Thursday before work - I always find that an early run really starts my day well, but unfortunately the way we have childcare arranged, I drop the kids off, so run after work. That's when it's really easy to sack it off!

A long run planned tomorrow - not sure when or where though: I have just realised that dd1 is going to a party on Sunday and I thought it was tomorrow and I would run while she was there. Now at more of a loose end but need to keep DCs organised for a bit while DH sorts the garden out. I hare the endless negotiation that comes with having very young children sad

Sirzy Fri 10-Jan-14 19:09:31

I have just changed to miles on runkeeper to look what my pace is and i am just over a 13 minute mile at the moment.

Anjelika Fri 10-Jan-14 20:01:32

Wow I'm really impressed with all your distances and times. I managed a 27 min run after I'd done the Tesco shop. Loaded the shopping in the boot then off I went. Killing 2 birds with 1 stone in my lunch hour grin

Tiredemma Fri 10-Jan-14 21:00:10

I've heard people say that if you can do 8 miles then you can do a half easily, because the race atmosphere gives you that extra boost. I'm not taking any chances though, I'm going for a 10 miler on Sunday.

This is quite true-

I did a 10k race in June 2012 whilst training for GNR Half Marathon- I then found a 10 mile race in the August. the 10 mile race was hard (harder than the GNR in my opinion) but once I knew I could run 10 miles- I knew I would get the extra 3 required for the GNR.

I thought I was going to die at mile 11 of GNR- but I obviously didnt. The atmosphere of the race gets you to the end.

Fishandjam Fri 10-Jan-14 21:02:48

Well done to all on their distances and times. I am badly outclassed on this thread!

Argh, can't do Parkrun tomorrow (or indeed next Sat) - kids' party tomorrow and DH is off on his charity training day the following one. Will have to do an equivalent 5k on Sunday and have Runkeeper log my time. Poo!

EauRouge Fri 10-Jan-14 21:30:48

Excellent, does that mean I can sleep in tomorrow? grin

Finally picked a charity for my half marathon, I'm going to raise money for the Birth Trauma Association. Anyone got any fundraising tips?

Tiredemma Fri 10-Jan-14 21:49:13


sleep in- have a curry, get drunk!

EauRouge Fri 10-Jan-14 22:17:36

I wish! I'll need the rest after being kept awake by DD2 all night, again. If those molars don't come through soon I am going to lose the last shred of sanity I have.

karatekimmi Sat 11-Jan-14 08:03:34

Oops, my babysitter turned up so I could run, forgot to tell them, so I went sale shopping instead grin

The other car has broken down now, so I won't be park running, I'll drop DH off at work and run round the lake there! A bit gutted I'll miss the park run though!

EATmum Sat 11-Jan-14 10:27:12

Eau, hope you had a better night's sleep. I remember that phase and it's not pretty.
I too am thinking about nailing myself to some kind of mast by starting to fundraise for my half marathon. I've not so far because then I could back out without shaming myself publicly (which when I write it down sounds rather pathetic). I'm thinking that I'll raise funds for the clinics where I work (where we provide free osteopathic healthcare to people in need), but I'd also appreciate any fundraising ideas that anyone may have.

louwn Sat 11-Jan-14 10:53:58

Coo I am training for a marathon and have a similar goal but same pace -10k in 50 mins which is also an 8 minute mile. When I run with blokes from work we do 4 miles in about 32:30 so about 8:08 min/mile. Am determined to get to the magical sub 32 though....then we'll start running further! My fastest 10k time was about 52 minutes so knocking a couple of minutes off doesn't sound particularly unrealistic, feels hard tho!

louwn Sat 11-Jan-14 10:55:04

My other goal is to get a sub 2 hour half - thats at the beginning of april so we shall see. Just about to head out for a 10 mile run in a few minutes!

karatekimmi Sat 11-Jan-14 12:26:08

I made DH get a taxi, so I managed my parkrun!! not a fast time, but that's my 3 runs this week done!

karatekimmi Sat 11-Jan-14 12:26:43

... my 3 runs done for Jantastic. posted too soon!

ThursdayLast Sat 11-Jan-14 16:05:06

I'm jealous of your park runs. My nearest is over an hour away sad

However, I just did 6miles in an hour! Woohoo!

I'm in awe of an 8 min mile. I just did two and a half at 9.50, which is a personal best by a long eh, by Massively cheating - running down hill to th sea, along the seafront, then meeting up with dh so I don't have to do the slow uphill bit on my time! grin
Will have to get back to hills tomorrow to make up for it...!

ElvisJesusAndCocaCola Sat 11-Jan-14 20:25:52

Park runs sound good - well done, everyone. I'm lucky that we have one in our village. But I tend to do a long run on a Saturday so don't want to push myself on a short run or a short part of a longer run, so haven't done it yet. Have done a few lasted year in the city though.

Louwn, it sounds like you and I. Have some similar goals. Well, I'm definitely not in the darkest for an 8 min-mile race, but am doing a half in March and aim for sub2 hours. Ran that distance this morning, in 2:03:50 and have done it in 2:02 something a few weeks ago. But too lazy to do anything but easy runs at the moment, so not sure I'll break 2 hours sad

Hope everyone who's planning to run tomorrow has a good one smile

ElvisJesusAndCocaCola Sat 11-Jan-14 20:26:13

Twelve, downhill is the new black!

CooEeeEldridge Sat 11-Jan-14 22:05:29

Ooh twelve love how you just casually drop in how you can run on the beach?! Well jel!

I'm glad you have a random distance / time aim louwn, I also would like to be able to go a half in under 2 Hours, I just don't have the desire to enter one though...?! Have you got one planned in?

Is anyone doing jantastic? I wasn't going to bother due to tonsillitis, but if I can do an 8 tomorrow, I should catch up?

CooEeeEldridge Sat 11-Jan-14 22:07:03

Sounds like you're doing fab elvis! Well done on today!

Sirzy Sun 12-Jan-14 14:28:28

Another 3.5km done today, decided to wait until after the frost had gone before going out!

EATmum Sun 12-Jan-14 14:29:59

9 miles today, which I'm pleased with - esp as I felt totally done in at about 6 miles but managed to keep going but slow down - really felt like I was barely going faster than other people out for a stroll in Bushy park at that point, but it kept me going.
Looking for advice re 2 things - pain that I get in the area on the innermost top of thigh - that tendon-thing aches. My running books don't seem to reference anything for that area, so wondered if anyone might have some wisdom?
Also, I have bruised one of my toenails, which is quite painful. I've had these trainers for about 4 months, so not used excessively (certainly not as much as I should have), and this is the first occasion where I've had any bruising - but I've not done this kind of distance before. More experienced runners, does that indicate a problem with the shoe - and do I need to go and spend lots of money on a proper running shop fitting rather than relying on the less-thorough approach at Sports Direct??
TIA for any advice that people with more experience than I (that's everyone then) might be willing to share!

Sirzy Sun 12-Jan-14 19:20:06

I have braved sharing my justgiving page for the machester 10k on facebook and twittter. No getting out of them now!

OhOneOhTwoOhThree Sun 12-Jan-14 19:35:47

EAT - bruised toenails suggest that your shoes are too small. You might need to go up a size to make sure there is plenty of room in the toe-box for your feet to expand and contract. I would recommend a proper fitting at a running shop.

louwn Sun 12-Jan-14 19:44:06

EATmum, have never had the problem you describe but I will say that getting running shoes fitted at a specialist shop made a massive difference to my comfort when running. Was definitely worth the money.

I was going to say might your shoes be too small as well?

The trainers I started running in were decent-ish Addidas trainers I bought a few years ago when I used to run the odd three miles or so and had been gathering dust for an embarrassingly long time since. It wasn't until I started going a bit longer distances recently that I realised they were actually too small.

ElvisJesusAndCocaCola Sun 12-Jan-14 20:12:17

Thanks Coo - I feel bit sore today, but a short, slow walk with dd1 on her scooter helped loosed my muscles up.

Sorry - when is the 10k? Do you have a time in mind? It's so exciting, looking forward to a race, isn't it?

Eat - sorry that I don't have any advice about your questions, but wanted to say well done for your run. I think that those kinds of runs give you something to draw on when you feel like that again - you did a whole three miles more when you thought you couldn't. That's quite a lot smile

Run tomorrow, though I don't have much time so will be a short run with a few speedy bits...if I can be bothered.

Sirzy Sun 12-Jan-14 20:15:17

May 18th, I am looking forward to it but finding the idea of my first race being one so big quite daunting. There is a smaller local 10k in March but not sure I will be ready for that! I will be quite happy just to finish really, I am currently doing 8 min 30 ish kms so I would love to finish it in under 1 hr 30 but will have to see how I go!

EauRouge Sun 12-Jan-14 20:32:24

Eat- defo sounds like your shoes are too small. is yhere anywhere nearby that does gait analysis?

I managed 10 miles today in 1hr 45 which I was pretty pleased with.

EauRouge Sun 12-Jan-14 20:32:55

sorry for typos, fat finger s.

OhOneOhTwoOhThree Sun 12-Jan-14 21:54:56

Eau - that's a great time. I was planning a long run but got sidetracked and ended up only having a 3 mile walk with DH.

EATmum Sun 12-Jan-14 22:17:05

Thanks all. I'm going to book in at our local running shop for a proper analysis. I'd gone up a size with these trainers, so thought that'd be enough - but I might need a slightly more scientific approach I think.

ElvisJesusAndCocaCola Sun 12-Jan-14 22:19:20

Sirzy, that sounds like an excellent goal. I bet the atmosphere will be amazing!

Sirzy Sun 12-Jan-14 22:21:03

I am doing it with a friend who did it last year and the way he described the atmosphere made it sound fantastic!

ElvisJesusAndCocaCola Mon 13-Jan-14 07:14:37

Sounds like the perfect race then - is it on the flat!?

Sirzy Mon 13-Jan-14 07:59:58

From what I have been told it's pretty flat.

EauRouge Mon 13-Jan-14 08:05:36

Having said all that, I had a gait analysis and spent £100 on fancy pantsy shoes and I've woken up with a purple toenail hmm It's going to fall off, isn't it? Ew.

Tiredemma Mon 13-Jan-14 08:25:01

The Manchester 10k is known as the 'flattest' 10k I think ( Im sure I read that somewhere - either the 10k is or the Marathon)

1hr 45 for 10 miles is a great time. I did my 10 mile race in 1hr 52 and that was such a tough race. I thought I was going to die.

Sirzy Mon 13-Jan-14 09:36:41

Flattest 10k sounds good to me, I want to do the St Helens 10k in a few weeks but knowing the area that is far from flat (infact there will be hoodies available after saying "I survived North Road" its so steep) puts me off - might leave that one til next year

EATmum Mon 13-Jan-14 13:34:23

Eau, that's what I'm worried about. I had a friend telling tales of his marathon running where the toenails were rattling around in his trainers (slight exaggeration, possibly). Yuck!

EauRouge Mon 13-Jan-14 15:51:39

It's a bit better now, I put some ice on it. Apparently ruined toenails goes with the territory sad

I hate hills. I live right near the edge of the fens so there are quite a few hills around here where I can overlook the tantalisingly flat bit. My half marathon is going to be fairly flat but it's mixed terrain so not sure how fast it'll be. I'm hoping mixed terrain means 'a couple of gravelly bits' rather than 'mud and ditches'.

ElvisJesusAndCocaCola Mon 13-Jan-14 20:32:21

That Manchester 10k sounds really, really interesting. I'd love to hear how you get on.

Mind you, no uphill means no downhill either...

Didn't go for my run today. Couldn't be bothered. Unlike me - I think the cold and dark is getting me down. While I can get out running after work by 3.30 if I try hard, it's invariably later than that and already nearly dark sad

Sirzy Mon 13-Jan-14 21:00:23

I will let you know how it goes Elvis, I am pretty sure its normally on TV in which case I will be the woman looking like a tomato struggling at the back!

I hate running in the dark, thankfully I am managing a few mornings a week - the joys of being a student! - just updated my running play list ready for tomorrow, bored of playing the same songs!

Sirzy Tue 14-Jan-14 10:13:38

4.5km in 34 minutes this morning [biggrin]

Sirzy Tue 14-Jan-14 10:13:49

grin even

Well done Sirzy!

I haven't been out since Saturday as I'm just feeling permanently a bit crap/sick/ridiculously tired (No.. definitely not pregnant!)

Glorious sunny day though and the dog needs exercising so might have to drag myself out later.

Bored of being ill. I thought running was supposed to make you all super energetic and healthy!

Sirzy Tue 14-Jan-14 12:18:20

Hope you feel better soon.

Just done about 5k walking too making the most of the decent weather!

ElvisJesusAndCocaCola Tue 14-Jan-14 19:47:48

That's great Sirzy smile

Ran with my running buddy today - I'm getting sick of running in the cold and dark too. Wasn't really up for it, but since I wasn't running alone, I had to make th effort.

We did a 10k (6.25 miles) in 55.55, which we were really pleased with. Pushed ourselves - friend took the lead and wore the watch and he is faster than me so really pushed me!

Have just found a rural 10 miler on 2 feb which I'm thinking of entering. I think it's a really good distance. Anyone run one before?

Twelve, it's only been a few plays - don't beat yourself up smile

ElvisJesusAndCocaCola Tue 14-Jan-14 19:48:00

Plays = days

I did go, I did 3 miles at sunset, and walked a bit so the dog could have a sniff about. It was all rather pleasant, and tragically when I got back my time wasn't much slower so I must run uphill INSANELY slowly normally grin!

Still getting shin splint pain in one leg though - any suggestions for getting rid?

And I would LOVE to be able to do 10k in 55 mins. That's awesome!

Snowdown Wed 15-Jan-14 07:24:49

Can I sign in - you all seem very motivated!
I started running 7 years ago, plagued with injuries - not all running related but I'm more careful about niggles now and taking days off to recover.
I like to run solo too, usually limit it to 20k a week by doing a couple of bootcamp sessions which involve resistance training and interval running but I'm hoping I can increase the distance a bit more this year without causing injury.
Don't really do many races - just the local 10k once a year. I find that although they make me run faster, my runs feel more miserable and I start to dread each run, so I tend to avoid them.

ThursdayLast Wed 15-Jan-14 10:05:12

3miles covered in 30mins.
It was one of them blasted faster interval ones that makes my poor little lungs burn, and brings my stats right down because of aforementioned hills.
But still, first chance I've had since Saturday, so great to get out and about.

I have never entered a race, but I suspect I would feel the same about it putting me under pressure.
Bootcamp sounds like fun to me, misery loves company and all that.

DulcetMoans Wed 15-Jan-14 12:10:37

I learnt to run on the running machine! This is progress for me as I could never quite bring myself to do it, too scared of falling, but did it last week. I still had to hold on with one hand but still - PROGRESS! Means I can run when it's raining now too...

Sirzy Wed 15-Jan-14 13:42:08

I can't run on a running machine, I would rather go out in the rain!

Fishandjam Wed 15-Jan-14 16:44:03

Hello to all, and well done on everyone's recent runs. I haven't managed any since last week due to a bout of D&V over the weekend envy (that's a green puking face BTW). But I recovered enough to do bootcamp yesterday, which was excellent fun - the instructor brought along a load of things like sections of telegraph pole, car and tractor tyres, kettle weights, jerrycans of water etc which all made up a pretend "gun". We then got split into two teams and had to disassemble and run around with bits of said gun, and then reassemble them a la that Royal Tournament navy gun competition thingy. Followed by several crippling sessions of abs stuff.

Hopefully will get a run in tomorrow lunchtime.

Sirzy Wed 15-Jan-14 18:10:05

Glad you are on the mend now fish.

I want to do at least 5k tomorrow. Going to drop DS off at school and then go for it!

ThursdayLast Thu 16-Jan-14 15:22:53

Checking in, hello all! Hope you're all ok.

Managed to squeeze in 4.25 miles in 45 mins earlier, with some walking intervals. Dodged the showers somehow too smile
Pilates tonight, I always find I enjoy the stretching so much more after a longish run

How's everyone else today?

Snowdown Thu 16-Jan-14 15:28:47

Have done a couple of 7km runs this week - felt a real buzz afterwards which lasted a good couple of hours, rest tomorrow and then shared PT session with dh on Saturday. Hoping to stretch my long run on Sunday to 12km.

EauRouge Thu 16-Jan-14 16:00:08

Love a post-run buzz. Good luck with your long run on Sunday!

Can't believe you enjoy those boot camp sessions, Fish, it sounds like torture grin Are you parkrunning this weekend or no?

I can't run on a running machine at all. I'm sure I could hear the bloke that did my gait analysis sniggering at my total lack of coordination.

I haven't run at all since Sunday, I woke up Tues morning with a really stiff neck/shoulder and it hasn't got any better sad Will running make it better or worse, do you think? Loosen it up a bit maybe?

Crikey, some of you lot are keen! wink

ElvisJesusAndCocaCola Thu 16-Jan-14 21:23:02

Evening everyone, some good running, by the sounds of things.

Fish and snowdown, where do you do bootcamp? It sounds really interesting but I can't think of anything like that round here.

I don't know much about shin splints, I'm afraid, twelve.

Did a threshold run today - three lots of 7mins threshold (or some where near to it, at least!) and 3 mins recovery. Five miles in total, with walking and jogging warm up and down. Felt good: I haven't done any interval training for ages cos I'm too lazy.

On sat I'd normally do a long run but my bf is coming to visit and taking me to the gym/spa for my birthday, so will be a mix of swim, gym and sauna. Will try to really push myself with some interval training, since I'll be running on a machine for the first time in ages. I find it so much easier to run fast on a treadmill, as on the road I just can't be bothered to push myself that hard!

Fishandjam Thu 16-Jan-14 22:35:47

Elvis, we have Cambs Boot Camp do a session where I work. They do general public sessions on green spaces in the middle of town and suchlike. There's bound to be something similar near you.

No run for me today - meetings of various sorts got in the way. Feeling rather un-run this week! Eau, not sure re Parkrun, will need to see if DH is off on his training day or not.

Snowdown Thu 16-Jan-14 23:48:37

We do our bootcamp in the local park - the trainer really pushes you, I work much harder than I do on a solitary run, it changes every week but it never gets easier because the fitter you get the harder you work.

Fishandjam Fri 17-Jan-14 08:03:13

We have some stupidly fit people at our bootcamp. The instructor found out they were finding it all a bit easy, and promptly gave one of them a ten kilo weight vest to wear grin The instructor is really very good. So long as he sees you're pushing yourself as far as you can, he doesn't care if you're not the fastest sprinter or unable to complete 20 burpees.

EauRouge Fri 17-Jan-14 08:18:48

DH has volunteered to get up early so I'll be parkrunning tomorrow. Will try a couple of miles today and see how my shoulder holds up. Need to hit my Jantastic target!

Not sure I would enjoy a bootcamp, I'm not good at being 'encouraged'- it gives me flashbacks to school PE lessons.

Sirzy Fri 17-Jan-14 10:36:16

5km in 37 mins. Happy with that!

Snowdown Fri 17-Jan-14 11:30:12

eau bootcamp isn't much like PE - I hated PE at school. First session is often free, so maybe worth a try?

Fishandjam Fri 17-Jan-14 13:21:17

I dodged PE the entire time I was at school. Hated it with a passion. So if I can enjoy bootcamp, anyone can!

Looking like I'm on for Parkrun tomorrow.

Sirzy Fri 17-Jan-14 13:22:55

I hated PE at secondary school, I blame the evil teacher!

I am tempted by bootcamps but think i will wait til spring to brave that

EauRouge Fri 17-Jan-14 14:07:47

Excellent, meet you outside the cafe at about 8.45? Will remember bin bags this time!

My DM was very generous with her fake injury PE notes so I rarely had to do it (she was also a PE hater at school and funnily enough a keen runner). I just don't like people telling me what to do grin

Sirzy Fri 17-Jan-14 14:21:41

I had a knee injury and then glandular fever which was a great way to get out out pretty much all pe for 3 years and the reason why I am having to lose massive amounts of weight now

CooEeeEldridge Fri 17-Jan-14 14:28:09

Ah Sirzy, that sounds tough!

Did 6 miles today in 51:50, not too bad, but I'm definitely slower at the moment, can't put my finger on why? I'm sure it's work stress as I can't seem to empty my mind as I normally do on a run (although still feel loads better for going out), planned my route badly too as final 1/2 mile was giant hill, grr!

ThursdayLast Fri 17-Jan-14 15:47:11

I went off piste today, running from my parents house rather than my own (quality time for nanny and DS means I can get the hell out if there!) it was fab! I ran nearly 6.5 miles in just over an hour, but it's the distance I'm so pleased with!
I think it helped only having an inkling of where I was going, and I was able to make it circular which I find much more enjoyable.
There was one absolute killer of a hill that I couldn't quite manage, and it rained so hard one of my speakers got water in and stopped working but who cares???

Hope you're all well today grin

youbethemummylion Fri 17-Jan-14 15:55:53

So I dont run I mean never ever but I have signed up for a 10k run for charity in May. I have a couch to 10k program and it has 3 runs a week but says only to have 1 rest day. So I am doing
Monday - run/weights
Tuesday - cycle/row
Wednesday - run
Thursday - Swim
Friday - run/weights
Saturday - cycle/row
Sunday - rest
does that sound ok should I be doing more/less/different stuff. Alsi how important is it to train outside im doing it all on the treadmill at the moment as I dislike excersising outdoors but obviously the race is outside? Help I think ive bitten off more than I can chew!

EauRouge Fri 17-Jan-14 16:36:28

That sounds plenty! You should be able to get to 10k by May quite easily. If you feel knackered or too achey then take an extra rest day, don't do too much too soon. 10k sounds really far but once you get going it'll be fine. I found it much easier to get from 5k to 10k than I did to get from nothing to 5k.

CooEeeEldridge Fri 17-Jan-14 16:40:05

Agree 10k in May definitely doable! Are you reasonably fit at the moment?

Definitely try and get out on the roads, I find that it's much more challenging (and enjoyable) outside than it is on a treadmill, you'll prob have a few more aches than the treadmill too, but they soon go.

youbethemummylion Fri 17-Jan-14 16:56:51

Thanks for the support Im not that fit but not unfit either (helpful description) Ive just finished week 1 and it was ok. Might hit the roads when the running segments are longer as at the minute I am clock watching constantly to know when to run/walk iyswim.

Snowdown Fri 17-Jan-14 17:11:36

Actually I'd start on the couch to 5k, 3 days a week, that will take you to the end of feb which is plenty of time to up your distance to 10k. Doing too much too soon doesn't allow your muscles time to recover, so you ache constantly, you increase your risk of injury and you work so hard that there's no fun! Goals need to be realistic or you risk giving up. On your rest days you could go swimming or go for a walk but only if you feel like it.

Sirzy Fri 17-Jan-14 17:13:44

Eau - I am glad you said that about 5-10k being easy. I am finally at a point where I can do 5k easily and have managed 7k but was concerned about getting from there to 10k. Hoping to add a km each week to get me to 10!

EATmum Fri 17-Jan-14 22:36:16

All the people in my life who've done distance running said it's just a matter of doing a bit more each week - but until now, I think I thought they were just being nice. I couldn't see how that might apply to me.
But today I ran 9.5 miles, and each time I've been out recently I've done 0.5 miles more than the time before. And it's working. Given that I did C25K about 18 months ago and that was my first running since I was at school (now just turned 40), this is a major thing for me. No real point to this post I guess, except to say that they were right - just go out and run 5 mins more than last time. Keep doing that. It works.
[Making no presumption that Sunday's planned 10 mile run will happen/be successful, please don't let me have angered the all-powerful "piece of cake" gods.]

ThursdayLast Fri 17-Jan-14 22:39:14

EAT, two years ago I would never have believed you, but you're right! It just takes time. At the beginning that time feels ages away, but in reality you're running further than you thought possible in a matter of months grin

EauRouge Fri 17-Jan-14 22:48:57

Fantastic, EAT, well done on your 9.5 miles! You won't even notice the extra half a mile on Sunday.

EATmum Sat 18-Jan-14 08:13:27

Thanks guys - I am determined to do this half marathon which is good. After that, we'll see ...
What's everyone else got planned for this weekend?

Sirzy Sat 18-Jan-14 08:24:59

I am sure you won't have any problems with it Eat.

I am out tonight and then tomorrow morning supposed to be going for a run with a friend whether hangovers get in the way or not who knows!

feetheart Sat 18-Jan-14 10:21:13

EAT - if you can do 10 miles you can definitely do a half marathon - I should know smile
The training plan I used for the 2 halfs I've done has only gone up to 10 miles and the second time I didn't even get that far as I was recovering from injury. I still managed the 13.1 miles as the occasion takes you along with it - and it was surprisingly good fun going over 10 miles for the first time <<slightly weird emoticon needed!)

Haven't really got back into the rhythm of going out for regular runs yet so have only managed one 3-miler this week and can't get out this w/e at all. Will have a better attempt next week. Think I might need a Janastic-type challenge as the first race I have booked at the moment is in June.

Snowdown Sat 18-Jan-14 11:19:46

eat you're doing really well, I signed up for the Jantastic challenge but I keep forgetting to record my runs! Writing down on this thread that I want to up my milage has helped.
PT session with dh this morning was hard, alternating between squat thrusts and press ups was nearly my undoing, they make wall squats seem easy.
Long run - 12km run planned for tomorrow...oh and I dropped 1kg this week, so nearly back to normal weight.

EATmum Sat 18-Jan-14 18:53:49

Thank you all. My half is not till March, so I just need to edge up on the distance and NOT GET INJURED. So that should be easy then

Merrybuddha Sat 18-Jan-14 23:49:01

Can I join?

I have restarted running 2 weeks ago after a 2 month rest (due to illness). I am supposed to be running a half marathon in 6 weeks. My plan is to eat and drink clean, train and rest.

ElvisJesusAndCocaCola Sun 19-Jan-14 00:59:45

I agree: same runs during the week, just a few minutes more on the long run each weekend, and soon distance creeps up and up.

Everyone's running sounds great. Some good times, too.

Have taken the plunge: Nottingham marathon, September - entered shock

EATmum Sun 19-Jan-14 07:25:08

Wow Elvis, full marathon! I'm so terrified of the half I'm working towards - can't imagine doing twice that distance! Good for you. Are you doing it for charity?

ElvisJesusAndCocaCola Sun 19-Jan-14 08:33:06

No, I don't think so. I'm dreadful at asking for money, so disorganised. I donate to others' requests though. I think training will be enough smile

Merrybuddha Sun 19-Jan-14 14:44:50

Well managed 7 1/2 mile this morning in 1hr 15, so thankful my fitness seems to be returning.

EauRouge Sun 19-Jan-14 14:56:48

Brilliant, well done!

I struggled to manage 5k this morning. Lack of sleep and third day running in a row, I probably should have just stayed at home.

Snowdown Sun 19-Jan-14 15:22:14

Ached this morning from the PT session yesterday but went out and ran 12km this morning as planned, boy do I hurt now! Tomorrow is a rest day, just as well as my body is crying out for it.

Merrybuddha Sun 19-Jan-14 17:02:33

Well done Snowdown.

EauRouge I couldn't do three days in a row, so amazeballs, now rest x

ElvisJesusAndCocaCola Sun 19-Jan-14 17:41:35

Well done you three! V impressed. I don't think I could do three days in a row either. Or run after PT. That also reminds me of PE at school, which I hated.

Sirzy Sun 19-Jan-14 18:07:44

No run for me today but hopefully 6k in the mornjng

EATmum Sun 19-Jan-14 20:12:31

Managed my ten miles today as planned, but boy does it hurt! I had a plantar fasciitis injury a few years ago which started twinning about four miles in, and I generally felt slow. But on the plus side it was a beautiful day and I made it! Wine and an early night on my agenda for tonight ...

EauRouge Sun 19-Jan-14 20:35:54

Brilliant, well done! Told you you could do it grin Enjoy your wine and early night.

Snowdown Sun 19-Jan-14 20:50:55

eat well done - enjoy your a wine!

EATmum Sun 19-Jan-14 20:52:34

<bows, blushing> thanks guys!

Fishandjam Sun 19-Jan-14 21:30:08

Well done EAT! Hope your wine is worth the effort grin

Eau, I thought that any athlete should have at least one rest day in between training sessions? Rest, you enthusiastic fool.

Well, I have a little milestone to brag about - tonight I did my first ever sub-40 minute 5k. (5.12k in 39 mins 10 seconds, to be exact.) I know it's not much in comparison to what you guys get up to, but it's quite a big deal for me! And if you'd told me this time last year that I'd even be able to run 5k, I'd have smiled soothingly while looking for the men in white coats.

Now for a homemade lamb curry, pilau rice and Brussels sprout bhajis.

Sirzy Sun 19-Jan-14 21:33:27

Fish, we are at pretty much the same stage then i managed 5k in 37 mins on friday.

EauRouge Sun 19-Jan-14 21:47:48

Well done, Fish! Sounds like everyone had a good running day.

I sometimes run back to back if it's short distances, but yesterday's parkrun was tougher than I thought and DD2 has been keeping me awake more than I would like. Will definitely rest tomorrow!

Fishandjam Sun 19-Jan-14 21:59:28

Yay for us then sirzy!

Odd thing is, I hadn't done any exercise since last Tues. Maybe the break did me good?

ElvisJesusAndCocaCola Sun 19-Jan-14 22:16:22

That is fab EAT and fish!

EATmum Sun 19-Jan-14 22:25:22

Nice one Fish! What MN needs now is a way of sharing that lamb curry with the rest of us ... I'd even share my wine <faints>