Want to run but am TRULY CRAP at it... Is there any hope?

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mirai Sun 04-Nov-12 04:24:05

Running is great. It's free, it's supposedly easy (put on your trainers and go), and hopefully it will shrink my huge bum (seriously my bum is very very big and round) blush

BUT. I'm rubbish at it. Terrible. My ears get cold, I feel everything jiggle, it hurts and I just want to give up.

Is there any hope for me? Can people like me turn into good runners? I'm actually getting ear pain just thinking about it. Or, is there no hope?

I really need to do some exercise. Tried swimming but the pool is too far - it took 3 hours out of my evening which wasn't sustainable. Tried doing an exercise video - but I'm exhausted after work and find it impossible to drag myself out of bed in the morning as it's SO cold and I'm always SO tired. Something needs to be done. Help!

LadyWidmerpool Sun 04-Nov-12 05:39:14

Just start slowly. Start by running for two minutes and walking for three and repeating a few times. There are lots of schedules online that start slowly. Before you know it you will be running for ten minutes, half an hour, an hour! Try not to stop, just slow right down if you have to. (Obviously stop if you are struggling.) The first 15 minutes are the hardest then the endophins kick in which is a great feeling!

You could always start with a few powerwalks to kick off, would that feel easier? Walking is very good exercise too!

Yes I was also truly crap at running and thought id never be able to do it. Have done a couple of 5ks a 10 a 15 and am
signed up for the great north run..

I started off very slowly- think slower than you can walk.
I wear an underwired bra then a sports bra then a tight vest top that seems to get it all in place.

Good luck

mirai Sun 04-Nov-12 06:34:06

The funny thing is that I could (and often do) walk for miles, and it doesn't seem to have any effect on my waistline! So I wondered if running might kickstart things a little. I'm not sure I could even run for two minutes blush

girlsyearapart it's not just the boobs that jiggle blush grin Well done on signing up for the great north run. How long have you been running?

FrightRunScream Sun 04-Nov-12 06:39:59

Have a look / listen to the nhs Couch to 5K plan. In the first week you run for 30s about 5 times I think, and build from there.

I started after dd2 was born I think which was in 2008. It really is a great way to lose weight. I signed up for the race for life in 2009 and my only goal was not to stop. Think it took me 48 minutes.

Did it again this year in 33. smile

Sign up for a charity run get people to sponsor you and that shames you into doing it!

I'm still not brilliant but I can keep going. Used to be 12-13 stone and now am around 10- sometimes just under sometimes just over.

mamalovebird Sun 04-Nov-12 06:51:22

I used to think I was crap at running but started slowly and built up my stamina. Literally, one minute running then one minute walking for 10 mins, then 12 mins, then increasing the running time.

Also, get yourself some well fitting running gear and that should keep everything supported. Go to a specialist running shop and get some decent running shoes. The Sweat Shop will put you on a treadmill and analyse the way you run and suggest the best trainers. I got a very decent pair os asics for £50 so not too ridiculous.

When you start your run keep focus on your breathing and you'll soon zone out everything else. Good luck.

mirai Sun 04-Nov-12 06:52:13

Girls, did you alter your diet much or was that all from running? You're my ideal weight! smile

Thanks Fright, I will look for that now.

ShhBoom Sun 04-Nov-12 07:00:40

Another one here recommending Couch to 5K. It's fab & after just a couple of times doing it & I was already feeling load better about running.
I have had to stop as every time I do it i twist the same ankle, but hopefully ill be able to start it up again soon.

dearprudence Sun 04-Nov-12 07:03:38

I will second a couch to 5k running plan. There are a few versions online. I could barely run for 30 seconds when I did it but it's amazing how quickly you improve if you stick with it.

Mostly from running though before big events like holidays I cut out certain foods like chocolate crisps etc. Also have 4 dcs aged 5 and under so I am always on the go

I do enjoy exercise though and going to different classes. Zumba is another one good for weight loss.

The running thing was because I was just annoyed that I couldn't do it so I decided to try and make myself and now I love it.

applefalls Sun 04-Nov-12 08:06:51

Mirai, good for you! I never ran before I signed up to do a half marathon, three years ago, in a fit of ill-advised showing off. Now I love it and try to run four miles every other day. What everyone says about starting slowly and sticking at it is absolutely right.

I would also caution that it's very easy to eat loads more because you burn calories, but not as many as you sometimes feel you have. You will be super hungry t

applefalls Sun 04-Nov-12 08:09:01

Sorry! Super hungry too so you'll need to make sure you're eating sensibly.

I can't recommend it enough though, and if you have two working legs you can definitely run.

Oh and STRETCH afterwards or you'll not be able to move the next day!

Good luck and good for you.

Snog Sun 04-Nov-12 08:12:43

Agree with advice to follow a programme eg couch or bupa . I did this but made progress at half the rate the programme suggests. It mattered not as I got there in the end. Stick with it for 2 months before you give up is my advice .

MrsDeVere Sun 04-Nov-12 08:16:58

I bloody hate running.
I dd a 10k this year! grin

I admit that I couldn't deal with running outdoors and used a treadmill. I was able to join the YMCA gym for £20 a month.

There is nowhere to run round here.

Definately try the run - walk - run method.

Mapal Sun 04-Nov-12 08:24:39

Couch to 5k really works. I couldn't run 100m but stuck to the routine and have since run two 10ks. Both took me just over an hour.
Just over an hour of running, WITHOUT STOPPING! Me! I am so proud of myself.
Honestly, I would urge you to do it, you will get such a boost. Oh, and I am a lot slimmer now and haven't changed my eating habits much, although once you're running regularly you tend to think more about what you eat anyway as you will notice runs are harder if you've only eaten crap all day.

mirai Sun 04-Nov-12 09:59:35

Wow thanks for the replies. MrsDeVere you made me laugh - you say in the same breath you did a 10k but also that you bloody hate it! Why do you do it then?!

I think making excuses is very easy - there's always something more relaxing or enjoyable to do than running! That's going to be something i find hard though. If I go before wrk it'll be daylight and people will point and stare look at me, so I will probably do it in the evenings, after work but before dinner.

Thoroughly recommend the nhs couch to 5k podcast. I started last January and by march could run 30 mins non stop. I have been runnin three times a week since then working on speed and did a 5k in 27 min 20sec in September before I broke my foot and not haven't run for 8 weeks sad. I never thought I'd say this but I miss it sooooo much. Some days it was a chore to get out after working, looking after kids, cooking dinner etc but once you've been you feel great and I have so much more energy generally am not as tired and not as affected by my hormones! So I'd say go for it! I got a good pair of trainers but nothing else special. If your ears get cold I would recommend wearing a hat.

mirai Sun 04-Nov-12 11:43:14

That is an amazing time cinnamon! January to March is just 8 weeks! Are you telling me I could be running 30 mins by the New Year?!? <mirai falls off chair laughing> grin

The NHS couch to 5k is a 9 week plan but I ran every other day instead of three times a week so was running 7 times in 2 weeks in instead of 6 times so finished a bit quicker.

applefalls Sun 04-Nov-12 13:28:34

Also, trust me, nobody will point or laugh. I was like a little weeble when I started and not a titter. Put some music on and keep your vhin up because the only states you'll get will be of envy and admiration!

Doyouthinktheysaurus Sun 04-Nov-12 13:40:24

You can do it. It just takes time and perseverance to get throught the first few weeks.

I started running about 3 years ago after reading the running threads n here. I did couch 2 5k end got the bug. I've since done a marathon and run 35 miles most weeks these days, every Saturday is a half marathon distance run for me and I absolutely love it.

The feeling of freedom and having time just for me is wonderful. I have a new respect for what my body can achieve and it forces me to eat better.

Do couch to 5k, join one of the threads to keep you motivated and give yourself 3 months to really give it a go. Running does become more natural the more you do it and everything jiggles less. A good running bra is essential and music means you can't hear anything if anyone does comment. Tbh,I've never really experienced comments though.

I am still not skinny by any stretch, but I feel healthier and stronger.

Final piece of advice is to run slowly, much slower than you think you should. Otherwise you will be too knackered to do the next running bit.

Go for it!

mirai Sun 04-Nov-12 13:45:49

...and you promise my big round bum will disappear?!

comethasmybrokentelly Sun 04-Nov-12 13:48:27

running is evil. Fast walking is where it's at smile

mirai Sun 04-Nov-12 14:52:19

Now I'm looking at Nike Fuel Bands.... I do like a nice gadget!! Anyone tried one or should I just stick to the ipod and the couch to 5k podcasts?!

Snog Sun 04-Nov-12 14:55:19

When I started my pace was the same as for a woman pushing a toddler in a pushchair...it's still an achievement for me to overtake old people who are out for a walk grin

willow777 Sun 04-Nov-12 15:03:50

Yes! I've started running and I'm crap! I even went to a running club - they had a 'fast walk/run' class for other people slow as I am, and pointed out to me that if I changed my way of breathing slightly I'd be able to go for longer, and it was true. Still crap, mind, but I really enjoy it and feel great after. go for it

mirai Sun 04-Nov-12 15:08:18

Ooh tell me more about the breathing?

TigerFeet Sun 04-Nov-12 15:24:23

Just adding this to my "threads I'm on" as I started C25K but couldn't finish due to various knackered bits. would love to start up again.

didldidi Sun 04-Nov-12 15:25:07

yes willow please tell us about the breathing I really couldn't get the hang of it.

mirai Sun 04-Nov-12 15:42:29

I love how the biggest piece of advice at first seems to be "go really slow, then go even slower", I think I could cope with that! When I've tried running in the past I tend to sprint off as though I'm Mrs Usain Bolt, no wonder I've not been getting on with it.

I remember once watching the marathon runners approach the finish near Buck Palace, I was all, 'hey that looks easy!!' The folly of youth eh!!

surfandturf Sun 04-Nov-12 15:46:03

Your thread has inspired me mirai and I'm right now downloading the couch to 5k podcasts right now!!! If you want a running buddy we could do it together and check in with each other to see how we're getting on. I need someone to keep me motivated!!!!

Come and join us here, there are lots of ladies all at different stages with their running smile

willow777 Sun 04-Nov-12 16:01:08

This is a great thread smile

Def the slow thing was so helpful too - when the instructor was running with me we went even slower than I normally do! It was honestly not much faster than walking if at all. She asked me if it was my legs (which are a bit rubbish) or being short of breath that made me stop running after a minute or so. I said it was the breath - I'd been starting off breathing in for four paces then out, then shortly after do three in and three out, then shortly after two and so on...and then get wheezed out and pretty much fall over.

She said you're better off breathign in for two steps and breathing out for two (a bit harder for out), so we did that. it felt a bit weird at first, because I was going extra slow but felt like I was breathing more often than usual, but I swear I felt more 'evened out' and able to run in a more relaxed way. Definitely lasted loads longer, and really shocked myself.

I should of course point out that I'm def not an expert and she might have given different advice to different people...but the other lady I ran with said that info had made a difference to her too.

one way or another, it was good to actually talk it over with someone who knows their stuff about exercise and is used to people starting off really show. there were other slow/large people like me there so it felt totally ok, and I just felt like I could do it instead of wondering whether I could. maybe there's a running group near you, even to go to for a couple of sessions to get useful advice if not to go regularly?

ivykaty44 Sun 04-Nov-12 16:08:37

I'm not sure I could even run for two minutes

Then run for 30 seconds and then walk for a minute and run for 30 seconds and walk for a minute and repeat then you will have run for two minutes.

I find running very very hard, some of it for me is mind over matter and I started off running for less than a minute at a time and can run between 15 and 25 minutes in one go now.

I can cycle though and if I have been cycling a lot and doing spin I can run more - no idea why but this does happen to me.

TellMeLater Sun 04-Nov-12 17:25:19

I too couldn't run for toffee either, did the Bupa walk run method - back in the days when ipods and podcasts were just a twinkle in the i of Steve Jobs and learned to run 5k continuously in six weeks - I was so chuffed with myself....I always hated sport at school, but I love running, i go very slow sometimes.....and sometime i pump up the cheesy rock tunes and go belting down the road, it feels great. Get a good bra - I recommend Enell, wear gloves and a hat - cold ears are painful. A C25k app and a decent pair of shoes. Good luck!

CointreauVersial Sun 04-Nov-12 17:34:42

Another former sport-dodger here; I did Couch to 5K in 2010, and yes, it did only take nine weeks. I still run a couple of times a week; the only way I can fit it in to my day is if I get up 30 minutes early and go before DH leaves for work.

I second the advice about going r-e-a-l-l-y slowly at the start.

willow777 Sun 04-Nov-12 17:43:49

Loving the term 'sport-dodger' as well smile

EdgarAllansPo Sun 04-Nov-12 18:24:54

Run around your house. Run on the spot, up the stairs, run on the spot in each upstairs room, walk down the stairs (carefully) run on the spot in each room downstairs (try not to tread on any lego bricks) walk from front door to back door, repeat over and over and over. Do this every day for a week or two until you can build up to whatever time/distance you are aiming to do outside. Also, walk the route you intend to take, taking into account the road junctions, narrow pathways and other hazards, thinking about where you will have to stop/walk. By that time you will be so bored of running around your house that being outside, going at a faster pace, will be a relief. You'll also have got an idea of how much you can do, and what running feels like. Running on the spot for 10 minutes every day for a week or so really makes me want to get out and cover some distance.

botandhothered Sun 04-Nov-12 18:25:37

Just a question, do any of you smoke, or is that a very silly question?
I walk but haven't tried running as I presume as a smoker i wouldn't be able? Do any of you know any runners who smoke. I will give up one day...but can i run in the meantime?

applefalls Sun 04-Nov-12 18:59:29

Bot, I'm embarrassed to say that when I did my half marathon I was on about 10 fags a day. Must say having given up now it's souch easier to run but I managed to train while puffing. Would usually hive the sweat time to dry before I sparked up. But not always blush

botandhothered Sun 04-Nov-12 19:20:46

Thanks apple, think i may give it a go then! I am sure I will be inspired to give up! Well done on giving up!

CointreauVersial Sun 04-Nov-12 19:29:36

When I say sport-dodger......do you remember when you picked teams at school, and there were always two people left? The class weed, and the one with thick glasses, two left feet and no discernable sporting talent? That was me.

From the day I left school until I was 43 I can honestly say I did no exercise whatsoever.

So if I can learn to run and get fit, anyone can, trust me.

mirai Mon 05-Nov-12 08:17:57

Right then I was tempted by the fuel band but instead have ordered one of those Nike+ sensor things for your trainers. I do like a good graph!!

So, a very very slow couch to 5k, starting in the evenings, I can't do tonight as I am working til about 9 but tomorrow should be ok. I can't stop thinking about how cold it's going to be though sad And how much I hate running lol.

surfandturf Mon 05-Nov-12 13:05:58

Thanks Cinnamon - now watching the couch to 5k thread too. Still trying to psyche myself up to going out running in the cold!!! smile

surfandturf Mon 05-Nov-12 13:08:04

mirai - i don't have chance to run in the evenings as my dh works late so I am going to have to try and drag my sorry ass out of bed at 6am shock good luck for tomorrow! let me know how you get on

Pancakeflipper Mon 05-Nov-12 13:15:00

I haven't run for 10yrs following an accident.
I started on the Couch to 5km in August. It is great. Though I can remember the first time I moved up a level and had to run for 90secs - thought I would have to lie on the pavement forever.

Last night I did just over 5km. Ok I walked for 2 mins near the end. I even have started looking at running gear thinking "ooh, love that."

Nitwit Mon 05-Nov-12 13:22:59

My DH says I've turned into a running bore! hmm

I started in July, and did a half marathon beginning of October grin

I hated it, right up until a week before the race, then something clicked, and I love it! Just bought my second pair of running shoes, signed up for another half in march grin

You CAN do it!

Remember however slow you go you're going faster than you would be sat on the sofa!!

mirai Mon 05-Nov-12 22:55:33

All you brilliant runners please tell me how (if?!) your body shape has changed??

Good luck surf and turf!!

mirai Tue 06-Nov-12 11:03:00

surfandturf how did you get on?!

surfandturf Tue 06-Nov-12 11:37:57

I did it!!! I was out of the house at 6.20am. It was bloody freezing, I forgot my gloves and my headphones wouldn't work so had to run with my phone in my hand! I can't say I enjoyed it as such but it wasn't too bad. Hope you do ok tonight OP.

CointreauVersial Tue 06-Nov-12 13:34:00

Well done surfandturf! Onwards and upwards.....

Gloves definitely essential on a chilly morning.

Bodyshape?? Well, everything is a damned sight firmer now that I run (although I started low-carbing at the same time, which took a good stone and a half off). And strangely I no longer suffer from backache, which plagued me on and off for years. I'm sure my strengthened core stability has a lot to do with it.

I am definitely more muscular but I also lost 5 1/2st in the last year through a change in diet so bodyshape has totally changed and I don't know how much is down to running!

TellMeLater Tue 06-Nov-12 19:10:25

Well done surf. I'm more toned, I don't build muscle easily....with some dietary restriction, I went from a size 14 to a size 10.

surfandturf Tue 06-Nov-12 19:55:36

Wow! You guys have done really well! I don't really need to lose weight as such but definitely need to tone up and get fit! I would be happier if I could lose about half a stone which I know doesn't sound much but I have no willpower!!!! I probably should cut down on carbs and I eat way too much bread and biscuits and chocolate

mirai Wed 07-Nov-12 09:29:28

Guess who was up at 6.20 THIS morning?! wink

So. Damn. Cold!!!

mirai Wed 07-Nov-12 09:30:46

I'd still like some more body shape stories, I need to know that these bum and thighs will go!!!

LavenderBriggs Wed 07-Nov-12 10:11:16

Did you run?

I didn't think I could run (disabling condition, being over 40), but I wanted to be fit. I started by running for 30 seconds and built from there. I've now done two competitive 5ks and one 3k (came 4th).

I'm now fit! My hips are slim - proper slim. My bum got a tiny bit bigger, but the shape is so much nicer. My tum is flat and I can wear size 10 jeans with a short top, because there are no bulges. I used to have a BMI 0f 26.5, now it's 21. and I feel younger than I did ten years ago.

mirai Wed 07-Nov-12 10:56:29

Yes I did! I should have made that clear haha. I didn't enjoy it.

That's great lavender, how long has it taken you to get to this point? Your BMI is blooming marvellous!

Lancelottie Wed 07-Nov-12 10:59:20

Wow, you did it then? How much did you manage at a time desperately hopes to find someone else who struggled with the first 30 seconds?

Yay well done!

surfandturf Wed 07-Nov-12 12:35:04

Well done OP! I'm proud of you! How did you find it? Did you do the couch to 5k or are you doing your own thing?

Here I am sipping hot lemon and water instead of my usual brew and I'm planning on running again at silly o'clock tomorrow morning!

LavenderBriggs Wed 07-Nov-12 13:33:12

Brilliant! You know we'll need times and distances now? smile

I started in January last year (when I was 43). I did the first 5k race in July last year in 35 minutes - it didn't take that long to get to 5k, that was just my first proper race. When you first start 5k can seem like a marathon, but it gets easier, and the benefits are too good to give up.

I did 7.3k in 58 minutes last week and the high lasted me for the rest of the day - the buzz might not happen at first, but when it does come, you'll want to get it back again and again.

Now tell us about your run grin

LemonBreeland Wed 07-Nov-12 13:49:10

This thread has inspired me. I kept thinking about trying couch to 5k, but I also have always hated running. I will really try to start with this. I'm losing the weight I need to by dieting anyway, but my fitness is through the floor. I've always been unfit since having my DC.

Am on my phone now dowloading the app. Will be buying a sports bra later.

surfandturf Wed 07-Nov-12 13:55:06

Yey! Come join us LemonBreeland. I've finally got my headphones sorted and must remember my gloves tomorrow although it is a bit milder today so hoping it will stay that way!

Lavender - Times and distances...maybe in about 6 months!!!! I haven't got any idea about distances nor have I got a fancy phone with an app to tell me!!!!

My legs are aching more today than yesterday - how are you baring up Mirai?

LavenderBriggs Wed 07-Nov-12 14:03:04

Hello Lemon - so glad you feel inspired. Just think of the day when you run for a bus and you aren't even breathing heavily - imagine being able to use your fitness to make life easier.

Surf - grin well done for running (you could always plot it on Google maps if you wanted to know - you might not now, but in a few months it could really help you see how far you've come).

LemonBreeland Wed 07-Nov-12 14:16:58

Ladies you are so lovely and welcoming, it will be another push as I won't want to let you down now.

I'm hoping I can make the app work on my phone, am not terribly technologically minded sometimes. Now to get me a sports bra.

Glad to hear you've got out OP, I didn't enjoy it at first at all but really do now. Although I still have days when I can't be bothered to go out, am always glad when I do!

LavenderBriggs Wed 07-Nov-12 14:32:17

Lemon - have you got Runkeeper?

Cinnamon speaks the truth. I can honestly, honestly say that I have never regretted a run. Ever. Even the time I thought I was going to be sick (because I just felt dead hard and athletic). I have regretted sitting on the sofa instead of running.

TellMeLater Wed 07-Nov-12 14:35:20

Have regretted the runs that caused injuries wink seriously though even after running a 10k in nearly 50 mins I still get some days where my legs are like lead and I end up walking for most of the distance but hey - walking is still good exercise!

LavenderBriggs Wed 07-Nov-12 14:38:04

I did think about that, but then I thought it was just the injury I regretted. I have Ehlers Danlos Syndrome, so I get a fair amount of injuries - I can't live with that amount of regret!

I'm in awe of your 10k time. I'd love to be able to do that <writes list of 'things I want'>

FerrisBueller1972 Wed 07-Nov-12 15:22:14

Ladies thank you for answering all the questions I think I wanted to ask but was too scared/embarrassed to ask!

I gave up smoking 2 weeks ago, I haven't done a jot of exercise since I had to have my horse PTS 2 years ago, I haven't run since I did cross country at high school (25 years ago!) and I am totally unfit. I hate catching glimpses of my body in a mirror seeing how wobbly its got. When I have clothes on you would not know, but I know

I have downloaded C25K and as I work in sports wear and all things healthy I have access to compression wear at cost price so I am not going to make ANY excuses ANY MORE!

I'll start tonight, maybe tomorrow actually. Is it better to build up by running on the spot or using the Wii at home?

I feel really stupid asking that but I am actually terrified of collapsing 200 metres from my house!! blush

Is anyone else pretty tall and do they find it harder to run?

LavenderBriggs Wed 07-Nov-12 16:30:54

Hi Ferris (apologies to Mirai for hijacking thread, but I really love talking about running).

I think it's better to get out - as you improve you'll have a good benchmark - I wish I'd kept a note of my first couple of months.

Try to think about the time in the future when you'll catch a glimpse of yourself in the mirror and smile at how toned you look. This is entirely possible. It will take time, but it won't happen at all if you don't start. Get your kit on, put your headphones on and get started. Look at picture on my profile if it will help.

FerrisBueller1972 Wed 07-Nov-12 19:10:45

Hi lavender - thank you! I can't see profile as I'm on the iphone but the kit has been ordered so I'm not backing out now! Sooner I start the sooner I will see results! A friend said it really helps her with her pmt these days as we get older especially grin

I totally agree about pmt, running really has evened my moods smile

surfandturf Wed 07-Nov-12 20:41:53

Ferris - don't worry about collapsing - the C2K starts off really quite slowly. Lots of walking in between the short bursts of running which gives you time to recover.
Glad to hear it should help with PMT - I can get a bit psycho at times blush
Thanks for keep coming and chatting ladies, it's really helping to motivate me!

surfandturf Wed 07-Nov-12 20:46:40

Hey Cinnamon - Just looked at your profile and discovered that you are a CM too!

Can I ask if being really overweight will prevent me learning how to run? I've lost 2.5t so far this year and Im not finished by my son has lost over 6st this year and just run his first half marathon a month back which has really inspired me. Im just worried about looking a complete idiot whilst trying to run and keep all of me in my clothes!!

trixymalixy Wed 07-Nov-12 22:26:52

I've just started couch to 5k and I'm hating pretty much every minute of it. Your stories have inspired me to persevere, thank you!

LemonBreeland Wed 07-Nov-12 22:42:06

Lavender I downloaded c25k, but was interested in runkeeper too. Will I be able to run both apps at once?

TellMeLater Wed 07-Nov-12 23:16:19

I used get running c25k app and was able to run it with the runmeter app and my music too. I use runmeter app to record my distance, times, calories, speed etc - all the nerdy things you find yourself wondering about once you've finished your c25k programme.

surfandturf Thu 08-Nov-12 07:11:06

Just got back from my second run and found it a lot harder today. My legs are still trying recover from the first run and didn't want to move. On the plus side it wasn't too cold - i even had to take my hat and gloves off! Only 1 more run to do this week and then I think I'll deserve a large wine!!!

LavenderBriggs Thu 08-Nov-12 08:54:41

Lemon - Runkeeper just chunters away in the background. Or, you can put in your own intervals and it will tell you when to run and when to walk.

Sparkle - if you're really worried it might be a good idea to see your GP, but if you can walk quickly you can run - when you start the two speeds are very similar.

Big round of applause to everyone who went out and had a run.

FerrisBueller1972 Thu 08-Nov-12 12:22:30

Question about this compression stuff. I should know but, well I don't! I see loads of people wearing the knee length style ones but I thought if I got the full length ones they will help with my calf muscles going into shock and filling with lactic acid (I remember vividly how crippled I felt after my first ever spinning class). Does that makes sense? So should I get knee or full length?

Thank you smile

TellMeLater Thu 08-Nov-12 12:56:46

I just wear normal running socks - are you sprinting a lot?

FerrisBueller1972 Thu 08-Nov-12 13:02:51

Am yet to put the trainers on for the first time!

I mean these things:

www.rehbandsport.co.uk/p/65/athletic-tights-women

or these things:

www.rehbandsport.co.uk/p/64/athletic-34-tights-women

surfandturf Thu 08-Nov-12 14:42:17

Ooh Ferris they look very technical! I've just been throwing on my old baggy joggers! I didn't even clean my teeth before I left the house for my run this morning. must make more of an effort

TellMeLater Thu 08-Nov-12 15:55:24

The jury is out on whether compression tights actually work or not. I got a pair of Ronhill tights from John Lewis, think they were around £30-40. I was looking for a good fit with zips at the ankles, flattering shape - a horizontal line parallel with the waist at the back - makes your arse look more pert. And a good pocket at the back which will take my iPhone - much better than an armband.

You need to try a few on, the variation in fit is enormous.

I am indeed surfandturf!

SparkleSoiree I was nearly 15st when I started at 5'5" so yes you can do it when overweight. I started c25k in Jan so ran in the dark until I got better (and thinner)!

LemonBreeland I used runkeeper and its independant of everything else so well worth downloading smile

Don't know about compression socks I don't have any special socks at all and had never heard of them until now with regard to running. I have to disagree about having a phone in a pocket rather than an arm band as mine always pulled my running trousers down! Loved my armband until I shrunk too much to wear it and got a clip on iPod instead!

mirai Fri 09-Nov-12 09:42:04

Ooh my Nike+ iPod sensor has arrived can't wait to get it set up smile

surfandturf Fri 09-Nov-12 18:42:10

when are you planning to go for your next run mirai?

LavenderBriggs Sat 10-Nov-12 17:38:58

I didn't run this morning (DH and I both have colds. And it was raining. And work came in (am self-employed)).

Does anyone have any running news they would like to share?

I'll be working solidly for the next three days, but will try to get out tomorrow morning - it's supposed to be dry and bright first thing, so it will be a lovely escape from work.

kernowgal Sat 10-Nov-12 20:47:48

I think it's about time I got back on the old exercise horse, having seen last night that I've put on a stone in not much time at all and am feeling a bit flabby, plus my BMI has now gone over 25 :/ I have a physical outdoor job so that keeps my general fitness levels up, plus I love hiking, but I need to start shifting some of the weight and toning up a bit.

I've got a C25K app on my phone but I live in a tiny town surrounded entirely by countryside - fine for running in the summer but at this time of year I wouldn't want to be on any unlit back roads. I suppose I could fathom out a circular route around town and then follow that for a few weeks.

Trouble is, I'm about to move up to a very remote part of Scotland for a few months and have no idea if there will be anywhere suitable for running nearby.

I used to love cross-country running at school so I'm hoping to regain some of that enthusiasm ;)

mirai Sun 11-Nov-12 14:27:53

Wow I've had such a hectic weekend, I haven't done any running but I have set up my Nike + sensor thing, the website looks amazing all charts and graphs and stuff, it really satisfies my inner geek! I'm going to redo W1R1 tomorrow with the Nike+ going and then take it from there.. I'm so excited, sounds sad I know but there are so many positive stories on this thread that I'm optimistic of things working out the same way for me too! I think by Christmas I should be seeing real progress, can't wait smile

kernowgal Sun 11-Nov-12 17:49:20

I've put my W1R1 off till Tuesday. Cold still hasn't gone and I don't think I'd be doing myself any favours going out tonight.

willow777 Sun 11-Nov-12 18:56:39

kernow me too, antibiotics starting to sort my lungs out but I've no voice and I'm knackered. And bored - I want to get on with it!! Good to hear other people running though, you're keeping me inspired here

LemonBreeland Sun 11-Nov-12 21:54:58

Hello all, I decided that I couldn't wait for my stupid sports bra to arrive in the post, in case my get up and go, got up and went! grin

I went out tonight and did my first run with DS1 (9). It was okay, not too hard and was a nice bonding session for me and the boy. I'm proud to have even started it.

surfandturf Sun 11-Nov-12 23:54:59

Well done Lemon! Nice that you had a bit of company with your DS. My 6 yr old DS has been asking if he can come running with me but I quite the half hour peace - it's the only time I get to be kid free!!!

I have worked all week and this weekend (11 hour days with a 7am start since Monday and am doing the same again this week) but still got up at 5.30am this morning and did my 3rd run of the week - I really enjoyed it! I was cold towards the end but I found it much easier than the last couple of runs I've done and really felt that I could've done more - I definitely feel ready for week 2 of C25K starting on Tuesday (although am a little apprehensive as I'll probably find it hard going again to start with) but I know the sense of achievement will feel good this time next week (hopefully!)

Hope you are all feeling better over the next few days as I'm looking forward to hearing more positive running stories! smile

surfandturf Mon 12-Nov-12 00:02:21

Has anyone used mapmyrun? Or is runkeeper better?

That's dedication surfandturf!!! Glad you're enjoying it smile never heard of mapmyrun so can't help there. I have a friend who uses endomono which she highly recommends.

RibenaFiend Mon 12-Nov-12 00:19:57

It's ALL about the bra!!! Mammoth mammaries are only contained in the shock absorber "Run" bra. It's impact level 5 zillion and really helps. Re the rest of the jiggle, I opt for tight sports clothes then layer a baggier t over the top. REALLY helped me wink

RibenaFiend Mon 12-Nov-12 00:20:57

Sorry! That was supposed to read *MY mammoth mammaries blush

LemonBreeland Mon 12-Nov-12 10:44:24

I think I will enjoy some child free time too, DS will only be able to come with me sometimes anyway.

I tried to use runkeeper but couldn't get a gps signal in my village. Will try again next time.

surfandturf Mon 12-Nov-12 16:19:08

I started doing this as I know my fitness level is poor and my clothes have been feeling tighter. I haven't weighed myself for at least 6 months or more but jumped on the scales this morning and to my horror I found I have put on almost a stone! Definitely motivation if ever I needed it! That coupled with the fact that we are going on a snowboarding holiday in the new year and I need to be able to keep up with my much fitter than me DH if I want any social company while we are away!

surfandturf Wed 14-Nov-12 23:10:15

It's been a bit quiet on here this week. Has everyone given up already? I'm trying to psyche myself up for w2r2 tomorrow morning. Brrrr

mirai Thu 15-Nov-12 08:25:22

Hi surf, nope I haven't given up! I was laid low with a sore throat and cold on Monday and Tuesday so that was two days spent in bed! However I'm back on it now and went for a run last night and will also be doing a 6am start tomorrow morning! The Nike plus thing is amazing, I've found that since I know how much effort I have to put in to burn off 100 calories or whatever, that I've been turning down sweets and glasses of wine!

Also quite excitingly, today I've signed up for a 5k race at the end of February! With two weeks off for Christmas I make it 13 weeks to train (well, build up to it!) so it should be just right! Also DH will rib me endlessly if I back out, so I have a perfect incentive to keep on going in the cold mornings!

I will post here more often when I do a run so we can spur each other on! How are you getting on with w2?

LavenderBriggs Thu 15-Nov-12 10:42:43

I haven't given up. It's just that when work comes in I have to get my head down and get it done and I have to ban myself from MN. I have finished latest job and I'm busy avoiding studying.

I did just over 6k yesterday morning and 6.4 this morning. This time last year I couldn't run two days consecutively. The point is that there is always another goal to go for.

Surf - did you get out this morning?

Mirai - well done on signing up for a race. Do you get a medal? And well done on cutting out occasional treats, it will all add up. Did you get out this morning?

LemonBreeland Thu 15-Nov-12 13:14:50

Hi All, it's great to see positive stories of those who have completed c25k and move on to new goals.

After feeling great following my w1r2 on Tuesday night, I feel incredibly achy today. I'm supposed to be doing run3 tonight. Do I battle through the pain or run tomorrow instead?

I think I should try and find a 5k to sign up for to make me do it.

LavenderBriggs Thu 15-Nov-12 13:27:32

If you're in tons of pain then don't run. If it's a bit of muscle soreness then a run will warm your muscles up and take the pain away. You have to start to do your own triage and check if it's something that could turn into an injury or something that can be run off.

Do have a look for races. Seriously, the first medal is a huge thing. Sometimes I think I run just so that I can get shiny things grin

LemonBreeland Thu 15-Nov-12 13:43:02

Lavender I love the idea of running to get shiny things. <magpieemoticon>

I think it is just muscles aching. And at this stage it's a case of more walking than running anyway. Will make the effort to go out tonight. DS1 has asked to go out for a 4 mile walk today, to the next village and back, I'm trying to convince him otherise.

tb Thu 15-Nov-12 14:41:05

I started running in my plan to get fit before I was 30. I joined a local club that used the track at a sports club (squash and track) and started road running. After a few weeks, I was running about 5 miles once a week, and 3 miles a couple of times a week. So far, so good. BUT I started to get pains in my knees, and found out that when I went to the dr, I just don't have the knees for running, as my ligaments are too loose.

Whenever I bend my knees they crack like pistol shots, and always have done. After the dr told me, that I didn't have the right knees, I started weight training with free weights and found that much better for me. I even used to do super-setted thigh curls and leg extensions in 4 sets of 15 with 30-40lbs 4 times a week. I think it's just a question of finding the right exercise for your body. I couldn't in a million years do step or aerobics, or any other sort of high impact stuff. However, squats, leg extensions and the like are fine.

As a plus, I found that as I toned up, I only wanted healthy food in reasonable quantities as I felt better eating that way.

On the minus side, when I was 34 I broke a spine on one of the bones in my neck in a car accident, was told not to train, had dd, knackered my thyroid and am now starting from a very very low base.

The only way is UP grin

LavenderBriggs Thu 15-Nov-12 14:51:34

Lemon - exactly. I love my medals - I'm 44, I've got hypermobile joints and I earn running medals. It can proper cheer me up on a gloomy day. If you just have sore muscles then a gentle run will warm them up.

tb - me too! I've got Ehlers Danlos Syndrome and I don't dislocate too much but my body does love a good subluxate. Completely agree that building muscle can help take up the slack in ligaments. And the food thing - it's easy to eat well when you're fit. Things, can indeed, only get better grin

LemonBreeland Thu 15-Nov-12 16:09:45

tb you have really been through the mill, but you still sound so positive.

I've looked at 5k races and would love to have done the bupa great winter run, but I will only be at week 8 then.

Most of the others near me aren't until next summer, and I would like to do one before then.

Thr dc convinced me to do w1r3 this afternoon, they are on inset so I had ds1(9), ds2(5) and dd(16mths) in the pushchair so it was hard going.

MarianForrester Thu 15-Nov-12 17:51:30

I just want to say thanks to you all!

Have been lurking on this thread, and thinking I should run too. Finally tonight just went out to my long neglected inherited treadmill- and managed to run for twenty minutes smile Can't believe it!

Ok, so it was very slow (I am 43), but at least I have done it.

Must keep at it now...

LavenderBriggs Thu 15-Nov-12 18:23:47

Marian - yay! Well done. You don't have to do the first run now, you've done it. Welcome to the mid-forties fitties grin

MarianForrester Thu 15-Nov-12 19:11:21

Thank you! Am unduly excited smile

LavenderBriggs Thu 15-Nov-12 19:17:44

I'm not surprised. Mid forties fitties rock.

Or did you mean about the running? That's good too. Are you planning the next one?

TerrorNotSoFrightened Thu 15-Nov-12 19:34:30

You lot have inspired me. I am going to do it.
I have a good sports bra and a good wireless MP3 player. And an hour between 10am and 11am.
No trainers though, Can any of you recommend a good starter pair? Would a pair of cheapy matalan jobs do to begin with?

MarianForrester Thu 15-Nov-12 19:35:32

Yes, sort of wondered if would just do every day, but given old bones maybe every second day better? Will maybe wait to see how I am in morning...

I just feel have done something for me; no excuses! You've all been most inspiring

LemonBreeland Thu 15-Nov-12 20:53:27

Go for it Terror. I didn't think I could do it but have now completed week 1 and actually feel quite positive about going forward. Have even become a member of the jogscotland website and am trying to decide how soon to sign up for a 5k race.

TerrorNotSoFrightened Thu 15-Nov-12 21:40:32

Cheers Lemon, am also in Scotland so will check out that website.

Go for it LemonBreeland, by week 8 you will be running 27 minutes and if you can't quite manage to push yourself that last little bit you can walk and then have an impressive sprint finish!

My dh is a powerlifter and has lots of injuries tb, some of which are not helped by lifting but it's his passion and I can't ever see him stopping. I guess as he gets older he will have to decrease his weight but will still do the maximum he can possibly do at the time.

I think for me the running is all about doing the next thing,whether it's timing or distance just knowing that you're getting that little bit better is great. I haven't competed yet but I am part of an athletics club so run once a week with others and know I'm one of the slowest but I have only been running 10 months and lots of them have been doing it their whole adult lives. The youngest of our group is 21 and the oldest 65, I am one of the younger ones at 31 but it's a lovely group of people and we have fun. My runs on my own are about beating myself and having time to myself to clear my head and be nothing but a runner. I don't take my phone anymore so I am cut off from everything for 35-40mins to just be me, not a mum or wife or daughter or friend or childminder.

LemonBreeland Fri 16-Nov-12 16:26:49

Terror it's a good site with races and also you can find your local running club.
Cinnamon I did look ahead at the weeks and realised that. I will think about it. It is the day before my Mums birthday and I need to travel 2 hrs to see her so may be an issue with timing.

On the up side of entering a race, my Mum has said she will do one in the summer with DS1 and I. She is 60 in Jan and has recently lost just over 4st and is getting super fit at the gym.

surfandturf Fri 16-Nov-12 18:09:32

Hi all, good to hear all your positive stories from this week. I'm finding week 2 harder than week 1 but still not too bad.

The thought of doing 5k absolutely petrifies me at this stage and I don't actually think I'll ever be able to do it. (Am keen to prove myself wrong though!)

Had a few negative thoughts this week - started to think that as I'm now 37, I realistically should be able to run for at least another 10 years and then the thought of running for 10 more years really depressed me!!!!

I have started with a cold this morning - razor blades in my throat and a blocked nose but will push myself to finish week 2 tomorrow.

On the plus side I have just ordered myself some shiny new trainers, running tights and jacket. I took a different route this week and bumped into a couple of other runners so decided I need to look the part grin

It's really good to keep coming on here to read your stories - really spurs me on! Thanks all [flowers]

surfandturf Fri 16-Nov-12 18:10:14

*whoops! I mean thanks !!!

LavenderBriggs Sat 17-Nov-12 11:32:32

Morning all.

Come on Surf - I'm only 2 years off your running at 47 and I don't plan on stopping. I'm just getting going! Think of years of being fit and having a strong cardio vascular system. Whether you think you can run 5k, or you think you can't run 5k, you will be right, so start getting your head around being able to do it <tough love face>

I just did my first Parkrun. I ran 5k in 33 minutes. I cried in the middle as I was going too fast and I was one of the last runners, but now I'm back at home and have had a great big strong coffee I feel calm, serene and very, very happy. Running isn't easy, especially at first, but the rewards are so high. Hope this doesn't worry any one, I'm probably a bit emotional and teary, so best that I got it all out in the park in the pouring rain.

Well done all of you starting out! It is soooo worth it. I always thought I couldn't run, but have been doing it for a few years now and have just signed up for my first half marathon! I've lost more than 2.5 stone along the way and feel and look like a different person. Just keep at it and resist the little voice in your head that keeps trying to make you put it off!

MarianForrester Sat 17-Nov-12 13:30:48

Hello again. I've been out for second run, hurray!

Had been tempted to leave it as had proved I could run (well, jog slowlysmile) but have braved it again and done 5 minutes more, even tho it's freezing here today. I do have the luxury of a treadmill in garage tho, so don't have to brave the world.

Am so impressed by all you 5k'ers, and half marathon- think that's beyond me. But it's great to hear.

MarianForrester Sat 17-Nov-12 13:32:00

P. S. loved your post Lavender, congratulations smile

LavenderBriggs Sat 17-Nov-12 13:55:24

Thanks Marian. I don't want to lie and say it's all fun and games, sometimes it's hard. But it's still worth it. Half of the calorie burn is going towards my dream weight. The other half is being used up by stuffing biscuits into my face grin.

Now, why do you think 5k is beyond you?

MarianForrester Sat 17-Nov-12 14:25:04

Enjoy the biscuits- well earned.

Well, that made me think about why I couldn't go 5k, and my reasons are rubbish, e.g. "that's just not the dirt of thing I do!"

So have reevaluated- I am going to aim for 5k; just not in an organised run. Still too daunting. But I will do the distance! Have done 2.65 or so today, so should be ok if I just stick with it.

An aiming to be fitter; more fun with my dcs; and do as much as possible to stave off the ravages of time grin

LavenderBriggs Sat 17-Nov-12 14:42:33

That's some honest self-reflection there! Start concentrating on the positives - you run, you train, you are becoming fitter. Don't worry about races or other people, just get used to thinking about being fit.

DH just laughed at me as I'm doing exactly what I'm telling you not to do! He mentioned that the pot and the kettle are having an argument in the kitchen. Let me worry about the races today grin

ccarpenton Sat 17-Nov-12 21:10:36

If running hurts. Walk. Then walk fast. Then walk faster. Then walk/jog/walk/jog/walk/jog. Then walk/jog/walk. Then jog. Then run.

The problem I think you have is you want to run now in the hope of having a nice bum next Thursday. Isn't going to happen. Every day you spent putting the pounds on will take 1 1/2 days to remove.

Start now and think of it as a life change. Not a blitz diet.

Started fast walking.....for about half an hour because I can't manage anything else. I start off at a slow pace and work up the speed without noticing really but I get this horrible pains in my shins...Ive hear a term for it but can't remember. Does anyone know how to get rid of it?

LavenderBriggs Sun 18-Nov-12 13:13:25

Hi Sparkle. You might have shin splints. They often come when you step up distance or speed. Have a look at this page www.nhs.uk/conditions/shin-splints/Pages/Introduction.aspx and see if it applies to you. Well done for getting started - you're not a real runner until you've come back from injury!

LemonBreeland Mon 19-Nov-12 14:14:54

Did w2r1 last night and had new trainers on and felt like I could run so much faster. I'm really quite enjoying it, and completely surprising myself. Couldn't find my gloves though, and it was freezing, but can't wait to get out again.

How is everyone else doing?

Thanks Lavenderbriggs I am now wondering if I have the right trainers on! How can I tell? I don't think there is a lot of hope for me here.....trailing WAY behind on the common sense stakes!

MarianForrester Mon 19-Nov-12 17:31:13

Hello- glad to hear some others been running- shin splints sounds sore though sad.

After my excitement of the weekend am a bit deflated, as I ran again today and twenty minutes was a struggle. Was hoping to find it easier each time. Will look forward to seeing how I do on Wednesday...

LavenderBriggs I think my 5 k still a way off, hope you wearing that medal proudly smile

LavenderBriggs Tue 20-Nov-12 11:37:37

Morning all.

Lemon - very pleased for you. Have you been out again. How are you finding the intervals?

Sparkle Could you get to a sports shop? You can get decent shoe advice. I always give my budget at the start of the conversation, so the salesperson knows that they're not going to bump me over forty quid. Have you got high or low arches? Did you have a look at the NHS thing for help? Is that enough questioning? grin

Marian - it's ok if you find it a struggle. You've just started, it's a new thing for your body to deal with and it's really hard work. For me, it doesn't get easier in a lovely straight line - it goes 'struggle', 'struggle', 'fun!', 'less difficult', 'struggle' etc. You're still doing better than the person sitting on the sofa.

Lavenderbriggs I did check out that website, thank you smile I don't think my previous recent injury of Achillies tendonitis is helping so may have to reduce my current attempts and build up ven more slowly.

I have really high arches, so high that sometimes I can't even get my feet into certain boots, its a real pain but on the flip side DH loves them! wink

I did buy new trainers recently but I find them really heavy on my feet, maybe have to look at them again..

surfandturf Tue 20-Nov-12 14:23:18

Hi all, really pleased to hear you've been keeping up the good work! I on the other hand have not been doing so well. This cold has really floored me so I haven't been out for almost a week sad

Am starting to feel a little more human again so going to go for a 30 min fast walk tomorrow and then will have to repeat week 2 I think. All my shiny new running gear arrived and i can't wait to go out in it!

TellMeLater Tue 20-Nov-12 18:33:22

surf shiny new running gear is great, what did you buy?

LemonBreeland Tue 20-Nov-12 20:45:11

Lavender I went out again tonight and my legs felt like lead. I really struggled. I think there were 3 reasons for it.

1. it was incredibly windy
2. I was trying to run too fast
3. I was stressed about work as my boss was phoning me and panicking about stuff just before I went out.

I do find the intervels okay though. I think a 2 min walk is a little long. I could manage shorter.

Marian don't get idsheartened. Just try some walking inbetween your running.

mirai Wed 21-Nov-12 07:59:50

Surf what gear did you get?! I'm expecting a delivery today, we'll have to compare ;-)

I've been doing alright but the cold mornings are such a struggle! I've been trying to go to bed earlier but it's not always that easy.

Has anyone else noticed a bigger appetite since they've started exercising? I'm starving afterwards and have been having breakfast for the first time in years!!

mirai Wed 21-Nov-12 08:00:48

By the way, when are you going to repeat week 2 surf? Shall we kick start again together?!

LavenderBriggs Wed 21-Nov-12 10:55:37

Sparkle Have a look online for shoes for high arches - you need a different type of support. And light running shoes are much more comfy. Good luck with keeping going, it's a really good sign that you want to build up slowly instead of stopping.

Lemon - any one of those reasons could have ruined a run, let alone all three of them. Running into wind is hard work, I find it a lot more tiring. Running too fast is one of my biggest problems, I get into all sorts of difficulties. I've started getting Runkeeper to shout out my pace so that I can slow down if I need to. Let us know how the next run goes.

Mirai I get the hunger! I allow myself to eat a little bit more on running days, but never go over the top. If I burn 400 calories on a run then I think it's ok to bank half of them and spend the rest on lovely food. As I get fitter I find that I want to eat healthy food - it's as if my body realises that I am listening to it, so it tells me what I need - there's a better connection. Cold mornings are difficult, but you're working towards the spring, when you get to go out on gorgeous bright mornings and you've got five months of running behind you.

I did just over 6k yesterday. Last year 4.5k was my comfortable distance, earlier this year it was 5k. It just creeps up slowly until you find yourself running for 45 minutes, and, if you're me, sitting on the sofa asking DH "did we go for a run this morning?" because I didn't feel tired or in any pain (for someone with Ehlers Danlos, this is a big thing).

MarianForrester Wed 21-Nov-12 17:45:33

Hello and thanks to Lavender and Lemon for encouragement.

I have run again- twenty minutes again, but went OK this time smile Still slow, but cranked up the pace (to almost quicker than walkinggrin) at the last bit. Am pleased am not so puggled today.

The good thing about running in garage is that I don't have to see people. The bad thing is can't justify nice new gear. Will treat self when emerge as from chrysalis able to run in style..

Good running all! And hope all colds and ailments clear up.

LavenderBriggs Thu 22-Nov-12 16:10:48

Hi Marian. You will indeed be a spring butterfly. In Lycra grin

I did 6.8k this morning. My word it hurt. DH got me round by talking and encouraging and telling me jokes. And he said lovely things about my legs. Running is good for relationships!

Have put a new picture on my profile. I do not look like her. I have never, in my 45 years on this earth, looked like her.

MarianForrester Thu 22-Nov-12 17:20:53

How did you find my holiday snaps? grin

That's really nice about your DH- great motivation too!

Lycra here I come.....

Love the photo LavenderBriggs!!

LavenderBriggs Fri 23-Nov-12 13:21:09

grin

I was just looking at Zombies, Run. It's an app that tells a story and makes you run away from zombies. I'm going to have to download it at some point, but I'm doing that thing were I pretend I'm not going to spend any money.

I would like a story telling running app, but one written by Jilly Cooper - can you imagine? "Lavender dashed across the fields, etc..."

How is everyone?

LemonBreeland Sat 24-Nov-12 16:47:49

That zombies thing sounds a bit freaky for me Lavender, but it is a fun idea.

I did w2r3 last night with my Mum and DS1. It was quite enjoyable again.

Bring on week 3. grin

MarianForrester Sat 24-Nov-12 17:37:42

Zombies, running? Sounds right up DS's street too- maybe he'll think I'm cool if I'm running from zombiesgrin He's singularly unimpressed by my running in garage (he's four)

Forced myself out there today, thanks solely to this thread! Feel I can't disappoint. It was freeeeezing, but did 21 minutes running at a very slightly faster pace; 2.43k. Pitiful, I know, but Will Get Better. I shall look back and laugh at this when am Lycra bound.

Northey Sat 24-Nov-12 18:11:50

Can I ask a question about changing body shape? Specifically how long it took for you to notice a difference/drop a dress size/raise your buttocks by 3 inches or whatever?

I have been planning to start running again (for tr first time in about 10 years) for a couple of months, but things like colds have always got in the way. No more excuse though. I want to do it as a permanent thing, but I have a wedding in a month and might be spurred on past the horrid early stages if I could visualise some sort of change I want to see in time for that...

surfandturf Sun 25-Nov-12 09:34:49

Hi all, sorry I've been really rubbish this week. I did go for a 30 min power walk on Weds morning as promised. My cold has all but gone but I have a lingering tickly cough and once I start coughing I can't stop. I really want to get started again but I'm just worried I'm going to end up coughing my insides up mid run!!!! My DH reckons that I got the cold because I've started running - kind of my bodies way of detoxing and getting rid of all the crap. I wonder if that could be true as quite a few of us all seemed to get ill around the same time and we all started running around the same time?

Mirai - I'm going to start week 2 again from tomorrow. I too have noticed an increased appetite since I've started running. I come back from my run, have some porridge for breakfast and by mid morning I'm starving again! I've also been going to bed much earlier as I'm getting up so early.

I couldn't justify spending a lot on my shiny new running gear so I just got some Karrimor stuff from Sports direct. It's seems good enough quality and it feels good to be less slovenly!!!

I got these trainers www.sportsdirect.com/puma-ikonis-2-ladies-running-shoes-271250?colcode=27125011

these running leggings www.sportsdirect.com/karrimor-x-lite-capri-running-pants-ladies-457140

this top www.sportsdirect.com/karrimor-long-bra-running-top-ladies-455142

I also got a high vis jacket for the dark mornings www.sportsdirect.com/karrimor-hi-viz-jacket-ladies-456056

Plus some socks, gloves and a headband to keep my ears warm!

What shiny new things did you get Mirai?

Well done Lavender - sounds like you have been doing well

surfandturf Sun 25-Nov-12 09:50:32

Northey I haven't been doing this long enough to confirm how quickly you'll start to see results - I'm sure someone will be along shortly who can tell you. All I would say is JUST DO IT!!! It can only help improve your figure and besides that it will improve your fitness! We're all on here to help spur you on. Welcome!!!

Uppermid Sun 25-Nov-12 10:19:39

This thread might inspire me. Might!

I did start running a few years ago and did 5k in39 mins, a huge achievement for me as I hated pe, did no exercise at all as soon as school started, can't stand walking anywhere as I find it slow and boring!

My problem is fitting it in. I'm too lazy to get out of bed in the morning and too tired once I get home and kids are in bed! I've started cycling to work to get some exercise which is a big thing for me, it means I can fit it in and I love it, the trouble is I'm not losing any weight and I know running would shift it for me.

surfandturf Sun 25-Nov-12 15:45:19

Hi uppermid. I'm get up at about 5.45am and go for my run between 6 and 6.30. It is really hard getting up that early especially when it's dark, cold and wet outside. It means I can be back in time to get myself showered and ready before the kids wake up. I just have to keep reminding myself that I only have to do this 3 days out of 7 - not every day!

Northey Sun 25-Nov-12 16:40:17

YES surfandturf! I definitely will join you. I will not be thwarted in my quest for slinky healthiness by dark nights and flooded roads and the frankly dubious need to keep my new trainers clean.

My bodyshape changed within a couple of months but I was on a low calorie diet too so not just running. It will make you feel better but it doesn't burn enough calories to make a huge difference especially as it does tend to make you more hungry!

I go to running club one day a week at 6.30 (dh does tea and I'm home for bedtime), another evening after bedtime so 8 ish and once at the weekend.

LavenderBriggs Mon 26-Nov-12 10:25:08

<pins medal on Surf for being magnificent>

Northey Run through a puddle on their first outing out. You know it makes sense. Clean trainers are a very bad sign. Also, if we said your body shape wouldn't change for 6 weeks would it stop you? Now, grubby up them trainers and get going!

Marian You would indeed be letting us all down <serious face> Very, very proud of you getting up to nearly 2.5k.

Upper Join us! There must be a way for you to fit some running in. You know you're good at it and you know it will make you fit. Could you get up 30 minutes earlier and do a 20 minute run?

I've got a bit of a pain thing going on (very normal for Ehlers Danlos), so I'm taking a couple of days off. I will be happy to guilt trip anyone who does not have an underlying health condition grin

surfandturf Mon 26-Nov-12 14:58:37

Thanks for my medal Lavender - it looks so pretty and shiny (a bit like Northey's trainers!) Hope you are feeling pain free really soon.

I have a confession to make - I didn't go out for a run this morning - It was too damn wet! So instead I loaded up the wii fit and did 10 minutes solid jogging on the spot and some tone up exercises for my waist and tum.

Wii fit confirmed that 1/2 a stone has crept on without me realising it but on the plus side it gave my wii fit age as 21 grin

Uppermid Mon 26-Nov-12 23:01:59

That's my big problem there Surf - I'm lazy! Get up out of my nice warm bed or stay there snuggled up.....

surfandturf Tue 27-Nov-12 20:20:36

grin Uppermid

How's everyone getting on this week? My calves are really achey after my wii session yesterday. I will do a run tomorrow if the weather's not too bad...

MarianForrester Tue 27-Nov-12 20:27:17

Runners, I need help! Have had bad week: ds off Playgroup yesterday and today with bug; couldn't run. And today DH been investigated all day for chest pain; thank fuck turns out to be muscular.

Anyway, result is that I need take dog out tomorrow morning: can I run?! Need encouragement as I hate mornings and the cold sad but will be only chance...

If Lavender you can do with pain; I can do this! Gentle jog round field with large dog.... I can, can't I??????

TooImmatureMincePies Tue 27-Nov-12 20:34:09

I need to do some exercise. The trouble is, I might get run over. It is DARK round here - live in rural Scotland, no street lights near me. I can't run in daylight at this time of year because I have to wait until DH comes home to mind the baby. What is there out there to deal with running on dark country roads with sharp bends/blind summits? Am a rank beginner, by the way - tried the C25k last year but got pg in about week 3, so gave up.

<goes off to Google jogging buggies, despite not being able to afford one>

LemonBreeland Tue 27-Nov-12 21:09:15

Go for it Marian, I'm sure your dog will pull you along

TooImmature. Is there somewhere nearby you could drive to that has streetlights so you can run there? There are only certain parts of my small village I can run so it is a bit tricky, and repetitive but I'm determined. <also coveting a jogging buggy>

TellMeLater Tue 27-Nov-12 21:12:55

Tooimmature - try the shred during the week and run at the weekends.

TooImmatureMincePies Tue 27-Nov-12 21:20:16

I suppose I could map a route through the village...I live near a village that is built around a deep valley. The streetlights start at the bottom of the valley and lead up the hill. I could drive down to the lights and run up the hill...it is a very very steep hill. <quails> There's only one street so I'd have to go up and down a few times looking like a twit

I think I'd rather try running with DD in her normal buggy during the day. It's a Quinny Speedi with pretty big tyres. I'll tie the dog onto the front to help! Right, I've got the C25k downloaded on an old iPod somewhere - will go look it out.

LemonBreeland Tue 27-Nov-12 21:42:58

I have tried running with my baby jogger city mini. It is harder work and I really needed good tarmac for that. Smmoth paths are important when using the pushchair.

I used to run with my dog but she got too tired and I ended up pulling her around so now I leave her home! If you've got a more normal dog I'm sure it'd be a great time to run. Warm up walk while the do what they have to do then off you go smile.

Hats off to those running with a pushchair, not something I'd attempt!! Like it to be me, my music and the road!

gotthearse Wed 28-Nov-12 01:27:02

I have been lurking and have got an app. Hurty back at the mo. Will give it a day or two to settle and then plan to start. One question - I have got massive sometimes hurty norks. We're talking G or H cup. Can anyone recommend a bra that can cope?

MarianForrester Wed 28-Nov-12 07:30:08

I've been spared through DH's hopefully not foolish bravery: he's insisted in taking her while I waited for it to get light- font like the field in dark. Will do my run later.

Good running to all; hope all ailments and injuries feeling better and new running gear inspiring smile

LavenderBriggs Wed 28-Nov-12 11:23:44

Hi Marian. Running is very good for helping to deal with stress. grin

Hearse Can't help with recommendations, but as a start you could try wearing two bras. Good luck with controlling the norks.

Well done everyone who has had a run, or an attempt at a run, or a really serious think about a run.

My weak point seems to be my hip flexors. Actually, everything around my hips; flexors, top of the hamstring, bursa over the hip joint. Must come up with a plan to sort them out. I did 4.5k this morning and pain levels are at 'bearable, but I wouldn't fancy another 4.5 unless I really, really had to'.

LemonBreeland Wed 28-Nov-12 19:15:42

Gotthearse I have a shock absorber level 4. I've seen others recommended on threads on here, Enell and possibly Anita.

mirai Thu 29-Nov-12 07:33:06

Hi all, just a quick one on my phone, hope to reply in depth later! I am still cracking on with it although I am really fed up about one thing. My appetite has gone through the roof and I've put on 4lbs in the last few weeks. This was not supposed to happen!! I'm eating tons of fruit, having porridge for breakfast (never used to have breakfast and it's only 150 cals), but now I'm craving tons of sweet stuff/ junk in the evenings too. Really disappointed. Any tips please? sad

mirai Thu 29-Nov-12 07:41:19

I know a lot of people recommend My Fitbess Pal to track calories but I don't think that'd work because firstly my non-existent willpower/cravings for junk and secondly because we always cook from scratch and frankly I CBA weighing my rice and meat and pots etc! Gah so fed up!!

PropositionJoe Thu 29-Nov-12 08:01:54

Many people say that once you can run 30mins straight it really affects your weight, which will be you after Christmas. In the meantime, drink water in the evenings and brush your teeth to stop yourself eating any more?

LavenderBriggs Thu 29-Nov-12 08:51:22

Hi Mirai I agree with PropositionJoe it does take a lot of running to cut down on weight. I see a real difference if I run 6k a couple of times a week. If I run 6-7k three or more times a week, then I honestly can't eat enough to put weight on. Think of this stage as the foundation - you're learning how to run, how to exercise, how to breathe efficiently when running, how to plan when to exercise - it's a lot of skills to pick up.

It will take longer than a week or two or a month or two to see real results. That's ok. Think about November 2011. Does it seem like a very long time ago, or does it seem pretty close? Now think of November 2013 (sorry for time-travel nonsense), it's not that far away and think of the changes you could make between now and then. Getting fit isn't quick fix. The longer you go on the more results and Really Good Things you get.

Also, non-existent will power is the very best reason of all to use My Fitness Pal. Yes, putting meals in can be a pain in the arse, but if you eat the same meals regularly you only have to put amounts in once, then you can use that meal again (I use Food Focus and don't know if you can do the same stuff with MFP, you'll have to have a quick check). Log everything. It really, really helps. You can't make changes until you know exactly what's going wrong (you might be a bit low on protein or total calories and that's making you hungry later). Don't be defeated - it isn't easy - but that's what makes it worthwhile.

One last thought - have you checked your basal metabolic rate? If you go under that then you won't lose any weight.

You're doing brilliantly. Say "I'm doing brilliantly" smile

leavesarefalling Thu 29-Nov-12 09:07:45

I haven't read the whole thread so apologies if this has already been discussed. But i also get ear pain when I run if it is windy and/or cold so I run in a head band that covers my ears and it's great. I got it from a running shop Well, I say when I run, but I am only managing 15 minutes 2x a week. blush

LavenderBriggs Thu 29-Nov-12 09:47:53

Hi leaves I use a headband when it's cold as my ears and face are agony in cold wind. Have you just started running?

leavesarefalling Thu 29-Nov-12 09:58:19

hmm, I've been running, well slow jogging if I'm truthful, since mid-October.
I'm running with a neighbour though who refuses to push herself. That sounds like an excuse I know, 'cos I really should go out on my own.

LavenderBriggs Thu 29-Nov-12 10:13:03

That's only just over a month. And it's got to be good that you think you can do more. Could you go on your own?

MarianForrester Thu 29-Nov-12 12:11:26

Well, have calmed down and got back on treadmill. Good for stress, you said, well, you were right! Also listened to all those of you who said walk if too much, and managed to do 30 minutes and 3.54k smile

Mostly "running", but bits of walking (pretty much same speedblush)

So will really try to keep it up now.

Can't advise on outdoor running gear, tho is blooming freezing here. I just wear old shock absorber bra- would really like one if those sports ones with underwiring, just makes me feel happier if they well hoiked up. Maybe when emerge in spring.

Lavender hope the pain not too bad, must be rubbish, am impressed by your commitment, I might use as excuse to lie on sofa... grin

LavenderBriggs Thu 29-Nov-12 13:43:11

Marian the commitment doesn't look that impressive when you know that I'm in more pain if I don't exercise. Although, thinking about it, it can't just be the Ehlers Danlos that causes that, wouldn't anyone be in more pain if they didn't exercise enough?

Well done for getting so good - 3.4k in, what, a couple of weeks.

(Yes, I'm right a lot about the positive benefits of exercise - if you ever need a gentle shove I can come up with something positive.)

LemonBreeland Thu 29-Nov-12 21:23:55

I went out tonight and did w3r3. I've found week 3 really tough. It was very cold tonight and I was a little worred about icy paths and possibly slipping.

Leaves I also get earache in the cold. I wear a buff around my head like a headband. I actually had two on the other day, one around my head and one around my neck as a scarf.

Marian, although I really am finding it hard going I do find it stress relieving to get out and clear my head after a busy day.

leavesarefalling Fri 30-Nov-12 07:47:32

Well done Lemon you had 2 excuses -cold, icy - and you ignored them both and DID it. I'm inspired.

LemonBreeland Fri 30-Nov-12 19:52:03

Thanks leaves. I just know that if I make an excuse once that will be the start of it going downhill and me giving up. I really don't want to do that.

MarianForrester Sat 01-Dec-12 12:41:59

Thanks lavender! I do know what you mean about feeling better for exercise. I really prefer a class to running tho, as I really need someone I shout at me to keep me going- am quite lazy, really, and not talented!

But I did do another half hour this morning smile Must keep it up....

MarianForrester Sat 01-Dec-12 12:44:27

Oh, and lemon , well done on going out- am impressed as I hate hate the cold! Bad enough in the icy garage, but I would struggle to venture outside in it...

FunnysInLaJardin Sat 01-Dec-12 12:51:41

I did couch to 5k at the start of the year and now regularly run 5k's at the gym. But it didn't have any effect on my weight in fact I put on a few pounds which is really annoying. The good thing though is that I enjoy running now and get a lot more out of it than just shedding weight, which is a good job really!

LavenderBriggs Sat 01-Dec-12 13:52:26

Well done to everyone who has got out in this weather (or has made it to the garage grin). Marian, don't worry about being talented, you're not aiming for Brazil 2016, you're aiming for fitness. Quote of the day "If you run, you are a runner. It doesn't matter how fast or how far. It doesn't matter if today is your first day or if you've been running for twenty years. There is no test to pass, no licence to earn, no membership card to get. You just run."
--John Bingham

I was going to cancel my run tomorrow (meet up with friends on a Sunday morning), but the course I'm studying has moved on to the positive effects of exercise and the huge benefits of activity over being sedentary and I've only gone and confirmed the run.

MarianForrester Tue 04-Dec-12 20:54:29

Ok, who's been running?

Hope you got out on Sunday, Lavender, I am dreaming of Rio....grin

Need to run tomorrow, tho time thwarted by cancelling of ds's class; don't try realise dreams being trashed here? Will need to wait til dd home from school to be in charge.

You only have to weight stuff once mirai, then once you know what size spoon you dished it up with you know for next time. Mfp is really convenient, the barcode scanner is fab and I genuinely found it easy to use and after a while it just became part of every day. I am now on my second week of now logging after 6 months of logging and I feel I have retrained myself to eat in a much better way.

I run 2-3 times a week and each run only burns 300-350 calories so really not a huge amount, I assume I have more muscle so my bmr will be higher but not a great deal. Exercise is great but you still need to monitor what you're eating unless you really are doing LOADS of it!

DIddled Tue 04-Dec-12 23:30:42

I was a complete exercise hater till this year -yo yo dieting on ww/Sw etc etc. joined gym in August, graduated to running outside about 6 weeks ago which I much prefer. Managing 4-5 k every other day and both weekend days. Eating what I want within reason, have stopped eating the boring low fat versions of everything. I came in from work tonight, it was freezing and wet, really didn't feel like it but forced myself to put on my kit, grabbed the dog and ran just short of 3miles smile.

I have lost some weight but even at nearly a stone over my lightest when at target on Sw, I am slimmer and more toned.

I am 41 and have never exercised in my life- if I can do it anyone can!!!

The sheer pleasure of eating a full at muller corner mmmmmm vs an insipid Muller light ..... That's why I am doing it.

Plus I am calmer, happier, sleeping better...... Am I selling it to you OP? You can do it!!!

Great motivator, download one of the run apps to track progress and Good luck!!! smile

cq Tue 04-Dec-12 23:38:32

Sounds like you're getting there OP, but be patient with the weight loss. I've given up weighing myself and just go by the fit of my clothes. Since I started running (again) 3 years ago, I've gone from a size 20 to a size 14 (while training for a half marathon) and then crept back up to a size 16 while distracted by moving family back to the UK.

Went to a fantastic boot camp 2 weeks ago, studied nutrition and the science of exercise, no shouting and bullying etc. Key message is to keep running but run SLOW - it's all about building muscle which munches the fat for hours after you've stopped running, and building up your heart and lungs to work harder so you can gradually build up speed.

LavenderBriggs Fri 07-Dec-12 09:07:31

Hi Marian. I did get out on Sunday. It was below freezing, but I wrapped up well and had a lovely run. One of my mates asked if I would take him for a run (I seem to have accidentally become a running coach - this might not be the best job for a 45 year old with a disabling condition) - he hasn't run for years, but is younger and fitter than I am and he shot off at great speed. Fortunately, he slowed down and was done by 3k and my stamina won the day, but the first 500 metres were a bit scary. How are you getting on?

Diddled - isn't it wonderful to be slim and toned in your 40's? grin Agree with you about ditching low fat food. I think low fat food is one of the biggest cons of the modern age.

Agree with Cinnamongreyhound and cq - you don't lose weight running by burning calories, you lose it by building lean muscle, this is the stuff that burns calories all the time. Even when I'm gazing into the distance waiting for the kettle to boil my lovely muscles are burning fuel. Cutting calories without building muscle will not lead to sustained weight loss.

Is anyone else still getting out?

I went Monday and have had a week full of busy evening so was going to go last night but wussed out when it was raining, cold I can cope with but cold and wet generally puts me off!

DIddled Fri 07-Dec-12 23:05:00

In work for 9hr day, whizz round Morrisons on way home- last thing I felt like was a run it's bloody freezing! I forced myself to throw on my gear and ran 2.5 miles , felt great afterwards and the dog is knackered so lovely and quiet. Now relaxing with a few glasses of wine and some crispssmile

My husband isn't exactly fulsome with praise as a rule but he commented that 'your arse is getting smaller' to me this evening - that's about as complimentary as he has ever been smile

Keep it up everyone x

LemonBreeland Sat 08-Dec-12 09:55:33

Morning all. I have lost my way I'm afraid. I finished week 3 last Friday but haven't managed to get out since then. Mostly the weather, as it has been so icy. But also our car broke down. We already had one car off the road and it was hard coping but now no car at all and my dc at a school 10 miles away in a pretty rural area with poor bus service is really stressful. I've hardly slept all week, worrying about how we are going to pay for one car to be fixed and the other one replaced.

I did go for a walk yesterday to the next village to get som shopping with dd in the pushchair. It was 8.5k, so some decent exercise, however my hip is really sore today so I think I should just stop the running until I can see a physio. I had already been to the gp about my hip before I started this but it wasn't too bad then. I hope I can get it sorted as I really want to continue with the running.

On the plus side, I have lost 4lbs with all the stress. smile

You'll get back LemonBreeland, youve made time before and you will again. Just remember how you feel after a run and that'll spur you on!! So sorry to hear that things have been tricky for you, doesn't sound like a lot of fun! Hope things improve in time for a lovely Christmas smile

LemonBreeland Sun 09-Dec-12 15:39:29

Thanks cinnmaon. I do have the determination to get back to it as soon as I know what is wrong with my hip and it is on the mend.

surfandturf Mon 10-Dec-12 14:49:15

Sorry to hear of your troubles Lemon, hope things improve soon. I have also been slacking somewhat! First I was ill then my DD so the last couple of weeks have been a bit of a write off - hate this time of year with all the bugs going round.

Anyway, I made the effort this morning and got up at 5.50am to brave the cold! I've had to repeat week 2 already and didn't want to have to do it again so I tried week 3 today and actually found it wasn't too bad. It was a really clear morning and the moon looked stunning - it's this kind of thing that keeps me going! and the fact that i eat far too many mince pies this time of year

mirai Tue 11-Dec-12 12:28:46

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surfandturf Thu 13-Dec-12 07:03:41

what happened Mirai? Hope you are ok? Would love an update on how your training's going?

LavenderBriggs Thu 13-Dec-12 07:26:58

I'm struggling like mad and I'm not sure how to get started again. I don't even know what's stopping me.

There will be a way to sort this out, I just need to find it.

surfandturf Thu 13-Dec-12 14:03:22

Oh Lavender sad. It's a hard time of year anyway - it's so cold and there's so much on your mind and to do!

I'm sure we all have our slumps and sometimes your body knows best and you may just need a little rest.

You have been such an inspiration to people on this thread (have a read back it might give you some inspiration) but don't put pressure on yourself and start again SLOWLY when you're good and ready un-mn-hugs smile

LavenderBriggs Thu 13-Dec-12 21:59:34

Thank you Surf for the very gentle dose of grip up thanks. I'm going take icy cold days out of the equation and stop worrying if I don't go out in -2 degrees. Dh has offered to come out for a gentle potter/run tomorrow morning (I'm hopeless at running alone).

It's very easy to pile the pressure on! It's rather nice to lift some of it back off again grin

surfandturf Fri 14-Dec-12 07:10:05

Did you manage to get out this morning Lavender?

LavenderBriggs Fri 14-Dec-12 08:14:17

Nope. But the news is good - I have the start of a stinking cold. I seem to become very doom-laden just before I'm going to be ill, so I was pretty relieved at sore throat and runny nose this morning. Feel like crap so going to dose myself up with aspirin and as many fresh veggies as possible.

How about you? What are the walking/running times in week 3?

And where's Mirai?

This weather is so rubbish for running! It's warmed up here a bit today so now of course it's started raining sad

surfandturf Sat 15-Dec-12 08:27:44

Hope your cold doesn't hang around for long Lavender. Keep yourself warm and dosed up.

Week 3 times were 90 secs run and 90 secs walk, then 3 mins run and 3 mins walk then repeat. Didn't find it too bad. Had a little listen to what's expected in week 4 and think it ups the ante to a 5 min run - not sure I can keep going for that long but will give it a go!

Weather is the same here Cinnamon. Luckily yesterday it was fine when I went out but 10 mins after I got back from my run the heavens opened!

Not sure what's happened to Mirai lately. Maybe she's too busy running to MN grin

This time last year I couldn't run at all, today I ran 6 miles! You can all do it!!!

cq Sat 15-Dec-12 12:49:17

Glad this thread popped up again on Active. My running has been derailed by sick kids (DS at home for TWO WEEKS shock) and now I have the same virus. Cold symptoms have gone but I have zero energy, and keep getting blinding headaches. It's all I can do to drag myself out and walk the dogs for 20 mins, much less run.

I find it so hard to get back in the groove when something like this has derailed me. And it's SOOO cold outside, but I hate the treadmill.

Anyone got a kick up the arse some motivation for me?

mirai Sun 16-Dec-12 10:15:39

Oh my gosh what happened to that post?! So annoyed, I wrote a really long one and it didn't post! Oops blush

Well, I'm afraid I've been laid low with a chest infection, an annoying bugger that I couldn't shake for about two weeks. It's still not gone now but it absolutely wiped me out. So I haven't been running or doing much to be honest sad I was disappointed as I was really getting along well with it and I loved the feeling when I came back from a good run!

Thank you everyone for keeping the thread going. As soon as I get back on my feet I will get back in the saddle, so to speak, I'm hoping maybe later this week? smile

LavenderBriggs Sun 16-Dec-12 11:26:54

Thank you Surf smile I feel loads better. My colds used to drag on for weeks, but since I started running I now get a couple of days of feeling gloomy, a day or two of having a cold and then I start to bounce back again. I went for the first run in ten days this morning. It was not easy. DH had to practically drag me around the park - he tried motivating speeches, cajoling and ending up with downright bribery. I am so glad I went - it continues the 'never regretting going for a run' theme.

Best of luck for the next week - it will push you to add another two minutes on, but if you're already running three, then you're almost there anyway. You can keep going - it's a good idea to have a couple of sentences at hand "I can run for five minutes", etc. it really helps to say it to yourself. You've only said "I don't know if I can do it" - it would be helpful to have the opposite thought to counteract that. If you've never run, you've only ever thought "I can't do that", try and say something positive. I'm not explaining this well. Haven't had post run coffee yet.

Hi Mirai Sorry to hear about the chest infection. Get yourself well and we'll keep a place on the bench for you grin

Hi cq Have you managed to have a run at all? What is your motivation for running and getting fit? (I want to be able to tailor the arse kicking grin).

surfandturf Mon 17-Dec-12 07:12:46

I did it!!!!! Such a good feeling! Almost half way through couch to 5k. I am now running more than walking during the 30mins. Wasn't quite as tough as I was expecting it to be.

Lavender I know exactly what you are saying. Instead of 'I don't know if I can do it' my new motto is 'I CAN DO IT!'

Well done Cinnamon 6 miles sounds like such a long way but soon I WILL be able to do that too!

Mirai - Hope you are feeling better soon and cq just think about the guilt free indulgence over Christmas. You won't feel so bad having that extra mince pie / glass of wine if you've done a run or 3 over the festive period. That's the thought that's keeping me going!!! grin

Have a good day everyone - will check back in after my run on Weds...

mirai Mon 17-Dec-12 10:02:52

That's amazing surf smile have you noticed any changes in your body shape/weight?

cq Tue 18-Dec-12 17:52:16

Lavender tailor made arse kicking - I'm impressed - you must be a personal trainer!

Not sure any more what my motivation is. Weight seems to go up and down but I really only get my arse into gear when I enter a race or event, then I have a deadline and my motivation is to not be the last one to cross the finish line. It happened to me once, I was literally running just in front of the truck picking up the traffic cones blush. Never again will I enter a race without being sure I can run the distance!

So I have entered the Reading Half Marathon in March but sadly that still seems so far away.

And today I have had my hair done all nicely for Christmas so obv can't get that sweaty for at least another 24 hrs grin

And now the kids are home for the holidays and DH still working and leaving me to do all the shopping/wrapping/tidying etc so running gets pushed further and further down the list.

And still soooo tired from this virus.

God what a list of lame excuses and whinges. If I could just get out the door for one run I would feel so much better.

surfandturf Wed 19-Dec-12 07:04:07

cq yes that is quite a list of lame excuses! but i know where you're coming from Worst time of year to try and get your arse into gear but why do you only do it when you have a race or event? I have taken up running as a lifestyle change. I want to have better fitness and get in better shape and I want it to last for years and years. Is your weight yo-yo-ing because once you have completed an event you relax and stop running?

Also as part of my lifestyle change I've decided to start using skimmed milk and I'm trying to stop eating once I recognise that I'm full. Usually I just eat whatever's on the plate (hate wasting food) My DH serves up huge portions so now once I've had enough I leave what's left and eat it for lunch the next day If I'm cooking I simply don't put as much on the plate.

Just got back from my 2nd run this week. Last 5 minutes were quite tough - legs felt like lead but I feel better for having done it!

LavenderBriggs Wed 19-Dec-12 09:04:31

cq grin No, not a trainer, but I'm studying sport and exercise psychology and looking into more hands-on courses, so who knows what the future will bring? I have to figure out if having Ehlers Danlos and being a trainer are compatible.

Enough! That's a lovely long list of blocks grin but there is some good stuff in there - going for a run makes you feel so much better - that's your short-term goal right there, to feel so much better. Is there any way you can get family and DH on board to give you 30 minutes? Get a couple of runs under your belt and we'll get some more goals sorted.

Hi Surf Well done for getting out! DH bought me a foam roller to try and help with lead legs and it seems to help a bit. It might be worth having a quick look and seeing if you think one could help. I've used it once and it definitely took away some of the heavy, post-run feeling.

surfandturf Wed 19-Dec-12 19:49:57

lavender aren't foam rollers things you use to make your hair curl? grin

LavenderBriggs Thu 20-Dec-12 09:11:28

grin yes! swishes curly hair

Or, you can get a big one to do some fascia release work, which sort of 'unsticks' things <only halfway through first coffee face>.

Definitely try to focus on the after run feeling and how it makes you feel generally. I am a much nicer person to be around since I started running, my hormones affect my moods less and I have lots more energy even on days I don't run smile

surfandturf Sat 22-Dec-12 08:33:29

lavender confused

Just checking in as we are about to go off on a 6 hour drive to visit family over Christmas. Even got my running stuff packed to take with me although not looking forward to running up and down the hills and valleys of Lancashire when I'm used to the gentle flatness of east Dorset!

Have a great Christmas everyone and I'll be back in the New Year to check how you are getting on and give you a kick up the arse if needed!

Thanks Mirai for starting this thread I don't think I would have got this far without it!

smile

LavenderBriggs Mon 24-Dec-12 12:27:29

Foam Rollers! They do what a really good, deep tissue sports massage would do.

My legs were heavy and tired and I had to walk the last part of this mornings run, but after a roller session there is no pain in my legs and they feel much lighter and bouncier.

I wonder what our neighbours thought about about my foam roller session this morning "arrghh, no, help, oooh, harder, arrrgghh, that's my bum....hahaha" God knows what they think we were up to.

Hope you all have a lovely break and the lovely runners are looking forward to getting fitter in the new year.

surfandturf Wed 02-Jan-13 08:13:12

HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE!!!

Hi Lavender, Thanks for the link. They look weird but sound like they would do the job nicely!

I admit, I have been a bit slack over Christmas. BUT...I did brave the gym on New Years Eve (too wet to run) and have been out for my first run of the year this morning. I did not want to get out of bed (nothing new there) but I felt great while actually running. For the first time ever I actually was bored doing the recovery walk and couldn't wait to get running again!

Now I just need to cut down on coffee, sugar and switch to skimmed milk. I also need to decide how to get rid of the copious amounts of chocolates I received for Christmas instead of eating them. Any ideas much appreciated!

FallingOver Wed 02-Jan-13 11:13:08

I highly recommend the chubbyjones podcast on itunes - the wonderful Mia has a whole series of podcasts for the couch to 5k, and beyond up to a 10k. I learned to run with the chubbyjones podcasts last year, and they are great for motivation, interesting (indie-ish) music, and just getting you through each run. Running is definitely a mental thing as much as a physical thing, and getting yourself mentally prepared for each run, from week 1 walk/run walk/run, right up to the end, is key IME.

Octopus37 Wed 02-Jan-13 21:35:57

Hi,

Can I join this thread, am a new runner, went for my first run yesterday. For the past five and a half years, have been doing loads of walking with a buggy,DC2 coming to the end of the buggy stage so suddenly going to be harder to keep fit. Have a smaller bum/hips than pre-kids (lost a stone after having DC1, but sadly as of my post Christmas weight, only four pounds of it has stayed off). Basic aim is to feel fitter and more toned, suppose I am what you might term "skinny fat" - 5ft5 and 8st7, but dress size usually 10 rather than 8 cause of wobbly bits, especially tummy. Would also be very pleased if I lost half a stone, trying to watch what I eat as well, but the mention of the word diet is enough to make me want to eat my bodyweight in chocolate, cakes, crisps and takeaways, so aiming to cut down and get rid of my food amnesia tendencies. Going to be 38 next week and realise that 40 is ebbing that bit closer. Would be chuffed if I was fit enough to do Race for Life in May relatively easily as my Mum would have been 70 this year.

LavenderBriggs Thu 03-Jan-13 11:22:19

Morning all. Haven't run for a week and am feeling a bit stiff and unfit. Going to get started again very soon as I have given myself a goal of dropping a it of weight - just to see if I can now I am officially an old fart (45th birthday last week).

Hi Surf. Put chocs in a cupboard and only take out in emergency. Or you could re-gift. Ooh, how about making fancy chocolate fudge and giving away!

Hi Octopus. RFL should be easily achievable if you get started now. I can remember 38 grin <stares into distance>

surfandturf Sat 05-Jan-13 16:22:55

Welcome octopus! You sound similar to me. I will hit 38 later this year and want to lose about half a stone.

*Lavender, I have zero will power when it comes to chocolate! I would love to be able to keep it in the cupboard for emergencies but if I know it's there I just have to eat it! I have already regifted some though. I think I will have to use my wine rule for chocolate too - so be good during the week and have what I want at weekends.

Bought a new bikini in the next sale and would like to feel brave enough to wear it this summer (if we ever get any sun) so I have started using skimmed milk as of now and my meal portions are smaller. I have also started doing a few sit ups before going to bed in the hope of swapping my muffin top for a 6 pack!

Moving on to week 6 of c25k next week's hope to start seeing some radical changes soon.

surfandturf Sat 05-Jan-13 16:25:09

P.S. Happy Belated Birthday Lavender thanks

LavenderBriggs Mon 07-Jan-13 11:13:07

Thank you very much. I'm in complete denial about being 45 grin but my body is in a much better state than when I was 35 and I'm tons fitter, so I've decided to just stop worrying. If you can have a rule then you do have will-power, you just need to direct it in the right direction. Good luck with ramping up the fitness - hope you start seeing some results soon.

Anyone else getting out and running? I have just started again after Xmas and a stinking cold and it feels very, very good to be out and moving again.

surfandturf Mon 07-Jan-13 19:33:34

Glad you've got out again Lavender. smile I did a full 20 minutes non-stop this morning which is a MASSIVE achievement for me! Very proud of myself and now I know I can do that I'm thinking I might sign up for a 5k charity run in the next few months. Would like to make sure I can do a full 30 minutes and speed up my pace a little before I full commit!

My DH has just turned 45 and he is much fitter than me! Your by no means over the hill yet! wink

surfandturf Mon 07-Jan-13 19:46:48

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surfandturf Mon 07-Jan-13 19:47:51

and *fully what is going on with my brain tonight ?

surfandturf Mon 07-Jan-13 19:58:29

FallingOver I had a look at the Chubby Jones podcasts after seeing your post and might be tempted to give them a go (especially when I finish the nhs one - might keep me going to 10k as I need to keep motivated)

LavenderBriggs Tue 08-Jan-13 10:53:28

I paid for RUnkeeper Elite. Mainly because I like to see 'Elite' after my name. What's that about a fool and their money grin

Sign up for a race! It's great - you get a medal. Imagine that - a medal for running!

Hi Octopus. How's it going?

surfandturf Tue 08-Jan-13 19:23:34

A medal - just for me grin! I just checked and there are no dates for race 4 life yet...

LavenderBriggs Thu 10-Jan-13 14:57:44

I have three medals. I'm practically a professional athlete.

Is it just us? Where is Mirai? We should start a convo in AIBU for maximum traffic - AIBU to want to run?

mirai Thu 10-Jan-13 15:35:14

Mirai has been on honeymoon and she is now very jet lagged grin

Lovely to see all the new posts,mi am nodding off now but will read later... Zzzzz

mirai Thu 10-Jan-13 15:36:03

20 min that's fab surf smile x

LavenderBriggs Thu 10-Jan-13 15:40:46

Ooh! Welcome home. thanks

surfandturf Sun 13-Jan-13 14:40:43

I'm sure you've been getting enough of a workout on your honeymoon mirai wink Congratulations!!!

I now need to do w6r3 but have been putting it off (25 whole minutes - no stopping) the thought of it is terrifying but I know I'll feel great afterwards. Gonna psyche myself up for it for tomorrow morning although we are forecast snow!

LavenderBriggs Sun 13-Jan-13 17:16:21

Good luck for the morning. Get into a good pace and you'll be fine. I counted my paces and found a website that lists songs with the same beats per minute - so, when I'm going good I sing Blondie, One Way Or Another and when I'm plodding a bit I sing The Clash, I Fought The Law. It works in that it stops my pace being ragged and singing Clash songs makes me happy.

surfandturf Mon 14-Jan-13 19:32:26

Hi Lavender, Well there was no snow so I had no excuse to put it off again and I DID IT!!! Very proud of myself and I've even been on Endomondo today working out local routes I can run within 30 mins (as that is all the time I have to spare and I'm getting bored having gone round the same streets for the past 6 weeks!!!

Liking the song choices by the way!

I wasn't planning on dieting but I've also downloaded myfitnesspal and out of interest put in what I have eaten today. I didn't think I had done too badly but have gone over my daily calorie allowance by 122 calories. that would be the sneaky quality streets i couldn't resist this afternoon so am going to try and be more conscious about what I am eating during the week now too.

This is all your fault mirai who is this calorie counting fitness freak you have turned me into with your blase OP!!!

LavenderBriggs Mon 14-Jan-13 20:24:17

Well done! Have you read back over the thread to see how far you've come? Let me know if you want a pal on MFP. You could look at my diary and laugh at how much tea I drink grin.

It's all about getting a decent rhythm going #one way, or another...etc#

surfandturf Mon 14-Jan-13 22:46:47

Ooh Ooh yeah would love to have a friend on mfp but then you would get to see how much chocolate I eat grin

XBenedict Mon 14-Jan-13 23:13:25

Please can I join? I could have written the OP I would live to run but I can't and I never have been able to but after reading some of the tips on here I feel inspired to give it a go. DD2 is at nursery tomorrow and I'm meeting a friend at 10.30 for a coffee - I reckon I have a window of opportunity before coffee.

XBenedict Mon 14-Jan-13 23:13:56

Love to run not live

LavenderBriggs Tue 15-Jan-13 08:28:30

Haha, Surf, have sent you a message.

Hi XBenedict. It sounds like you're ready to get started. Why not give it a go? Then come back and tell us how you got on. Good luck!

surfandturf Tue 15-Jan-13 11:10:23

Hi XBenedict - welcome! Go for it! Would definitely recommend couch to 5 k. Let us know how you get on!

surfandturf Tue 15-Jan-13 21:12:24

Lavender Noticing the repetition of celery, salmon and chicken. Also trying to work out if your coffee with cream is less calories than my coffee with 1 sugar and skimmed milk! God I am turning into a right old anorak! Really need to go and start reading more about Harold Fry for the MN bookclub rather than reading about low carb diets!!!!!

Also need to get an early night as need to be up super early for my run in the morning!

LavenderBriggs Wed 16-Jan-13 09:27:25

I LOVE CELERY grin

surfandturf Fri 18-Jan-13 21:12:34

I LOVE COUS-COUS grin (have sent you a message on mfp lavender)

How's everyone else got on this week? We got snow today so I was proactive enough to go to zumba last night as I knew I wouldn't get out for a run today.

Off to a spa tomorrow and I'm actually looking forward to hitting the gym before getting in the jacuzzi shock

surfandturf Mon 21-Jan-13 14:11:00

Ok so I skipped the gym and just went straight for the jacuzzi!
No snow here today so I had a run this morning and came face to face with a fox thought it was a cat grin

LavenderBriggs Tue 22-Jan-13 09:22:50

The snow is clearing here, so I'm planning on a run tomorrow morning. I'm low-carbing, so my running energy levels are different, but I've lost 7lb in two weeks, so I'm hoping the improved power to weight ratio will sort that out.

Is anyone else still running? Would anyone like a pep-talk? Boot up the bum? Sympathy?

surfandturf Tue 22-Jan-13 13:27:06

It's all gone a bit quiet Lavender I think there's only me and you left!

LavenderBriggs Tue 22-Jan-13 14:10:11

It's probably the snow <wishful thinking>

surfandturf Tue 12-Feb-13 19:03:04

No, not much snow left now and still no-one coming forward!

mirai Wed 13-Feb-13 03:28:34

I'm here! But I feel too embarrassed to post. I wanted to get into running and yet I am still full of the typical excuses, too tired, too cold etc. However that 5k I signed up for is coming round in just a couple of weeks!! grin I am definitely going to do it.

I still want to complete the c25k programme (and be able to do the 5k without having to walk) but this winter is just too unbearably cold!! As soon as I get home I just can't face going out again!! Excuses excuses I know. But once March comes and the edge comes off it then is be happy to restart and rejoin if that's ok!! smile

mirai Wed 13-Feb-13 03:30:24

I should add I'm not in the UK hence the odd posting hours (and the continuing bitter cold haha)

surfandturf Sat 23-Feb-13 20:42:03

Welcome back Mirai - we missed you! Let us know how you get on with the 5k. I must admit since going away 2 weeks ago I haven't really got back into my usual running regime. I've only been out once a week instead of my usual 3 times a week. Going to try and start again from Monday...

LavenderBriggs Tue 26-Feb-13 14:13:40

Are we starting again? <hand hovers over running shoes>

I haven't been doing very well - had a big pain flare-up and I absolutely cannot run in very cold weather. I'm starting to get more joint pain because I'm not running - it's a simple equation for me - running = less pain.

Who is starting when?

surfandturf Tue 26-Feb-13 21:04:50

Hi Lavender! I'm back on it! Went out yesterday morning and ran for 25 minutes non-stop (my longest run ever!!!) I'm planning to do the same tomorrow. Gonna go zumba on Thursday eve, running again on Friday and then hoping to try a new Metafit class on Sunday evening.

I've felt so tired since my holiday, I think I need to pick up the pace again as I seemed to have more energy before I went away and that is when I was really sticking to a regular exercise routine.

Go on put the running shoes back on! wink

Somethingtothinkabout Tue 26-Feb-13 21:36:51

Hi Lavender, thank you for inviting me over here!

Hope you all don't mind me tagging along blush I've started running again, well to be more accurate, I went for a run on Sunday morning for the first time in 8 months, managed 18 very slow minutes, I now can't walk! Yesterday even my elbows and the muscles in between my ribs ached (how can that be!?) but I am determined to stick with it. In a way I quite like the muscle pain.

I can't wait until I get to the point where I can go for a long run, maybe even an hour. I think it's as good for my head as it is for me physically. I just need to slog through the first few months until I'm a bit fitter. I have no desire to go fast, just to enjoy a leisurely jog.

However, today I'm focusing on the fact that when I try and sit on the toilet I can't get back up and I just sit and whimper!

Plan is to go again tomorrow and do 2miles.

LavenderBriggs Wed 27-Feb-13 09:18:04

Hi Mirai How's training coming on? Completely understand about the cold - don't know where you are, but even in north London it's just too cold for me to get any real running done. When is the race?

Hi Surf Well done on 25 mins non stop! That's brilliant. And pretty inspiring smile I've got a bit of a pain thing, it's getting sorted, but my left shoulder has become very loose and I'm a bit scared about what could happen if I try to run. Have got a plan of exercises and I'll get that all started this morning.

Hi Something Welcome to Mirai's thread, hope you like what we've done with the place grin Your elbow pain is probably from the effort of swinging your arms when running - it's surprising how much you use your upper body and the ribs pain is all of your little intercostal muscles complaining about added work load. If you're not used to doing lots of cardio they can get a bit weak, so you've woken them up and given them some expanding work to do. Running is brilliant for your head too, very good for sorting out or protecting you from depression or general gloominess. Sorry to hear about the whimpering coming from the loo <straight face, not laughing at all>

surfandturf Wed 27-Feb-13 11:40:16

Hi ladies! It's good to get some conversation started on here again!

Welcome something and well done for getting started again! Hope the muscle pain starts to subside quickly. I must admit my legs have been a little achey following my 25 min stint on Monday!

I did manage to get out again this morning but woke up too late pressed snooze too many times to go for a long run today so just managed to squeeze in 18 mins which is better than nothing I suppose. Must make more effort on Friday!!!!

Keep with it lavender are you able to do small amounts of exercise more often? Could swimming be an option to take some of the stress off and hopefully reduce the pain? Have some thanks to cheer you up! I've given up on logging all my food. Doesn't seem to be making any difference to my weight so I've decided to just concentrate on trying to stick with the exercise regularly and staying fit / getting fitter.

Belugagrad Wed 27-Feb-13 15:36:50

Hello can I join? Managed a run yesterday morning. Got told off by a farmer as I veered off the footpath! He was very friendly though. It's been so cold lately, been wearing gloves and a hat and my hair down! So inspiring to hear about everyone's runningsmile

LavenderBriggs Wed 27-Feb-13 16:04:41

Surf I should be doing small amounts, but I'm so fed up with this. I just typed a huge rant about pain and moaning, then deleted it all - I'm bored to tears by it, will try and protect the rest of the world grin I'm sticking to the low carb - I'm 8 lb lighter than I was on January 1st so I'm going to stick with it, it's a real life-changer. Concentrating on fitness sounds like a really idea (you haven't got any weight to lose, have you? no, surely).

Hi Belugagrad Well done for getting out in such cold weather! How long have you been a runner?

Belugagrad Wed 27-Feb-13 17:50:21

Hi lavender, ran a lot at uni then wen I hit full time work I forgot how much I loved it and didn't make the time, then baby and wedding and its been harder to find the time. so back running after 3 years! It's been hurting but feels so good. I'm trying to go in the mornings before wrk mainly. Low carbing is pretty tough but it sounds like you've nailed it!

Somethingtothinkabout Wed 27-Feb-13 19:36:21

Hi Belugagrad, your story sounds like mine! Ran through uni then life got in the way. Started again 2 years ago and ran during the summer months, stopped for winter, started again last spring then stopped again. Now, I AM STARTING AGAIN AND STICKING TO IT, I AM! [determined face]

I just went for my second run, legs felt a bit tight at the back of my knees but much better, (and I've been able to comfortably able to sit down and stand up in the loo blush ) so I just bit the bullet and went.

Did the same 3.3km run as Sunday. I felt like I was going much faster, and felt better during, but when I checked my stats at the end it was actually slower sad ah well.

Got in the shower after and my stomach looked flatter! I know it couldn't actually be flatter, but it's all mental smile

surfandturf Wed 27-Feb-13 19:54:43

Aw Lavender. I can't imagine what it's like for you living with your condition day in day out, but what I have grasped is that you're a fighter so I'm sure you won't let it keep you down for long. Well done on the weight loss since Jan! That's amazing! I just can't stay off the chocolate!

Hi Belugagrad, welcome to the thread.

Something sounds like you've got off to a great start 2 x 3.3km runs in less than a week!

It's great to have some new recruits on the thread - should help to keep me motivated!

LavenderBriggs Wed 27-Feb-13 20:44:54

Belugagrad Lovely that you're coming back to it. I understand the happy sore muscle pain - very few things as satisfying. I'm finding low carbing pretty easy - when you start the day with buttery scrambled eggs and coffee with a big slosh of fresh cream it's hard to feel deprived..

Something Another proper runner! I'm still learning, so it will be nice to have some more experience around smile

Surf - thank you. I think one of the worst things is that it's so bloody boring. I don't want to be brave all the time. The weight thing is really cheering me up! I'm so close to getting my body fat percentage into the 'fitness' rather than 'average' category, which helps me step away from the sugar.

I'm going to have a go tomorrow morning. It will have to be pretty gentle, but I can't be on this thread without an attempt at getting my kit on grin

surfandturf Thu 28-Feb-13 07:48:34

Yey go Lavender!!!! Let us know how you get on?!

LavenderBriggs Thu 28-Feb-13 08:38:56

Done! It was a bit of a struggle and I'm having a good old cough now, but I did it. DH said "if you can jog 4.8k in 35 minutes when you're at your worst, you're not doing too bad". (Have decided on using 'jog' instead of 'run' - less pressure on me.

Shoulder is feeling - different. The running movement irritated the muscles a bit, but all of the lovely extra blood flow seems to have calmed it down at the same time.

I did think of this thread when I was wavering at 6.30am - couldn't face coming back with stories of not getting out - thank you for support. Right! Anyone else been out?

Somethingtothinkabout Thu 28-Feb-13 12:14:35

Well done Lavender! And I echo your DH's sentiments, 4.8k in 35 minutes is pretty good going!

Enjoy the rest of your day with a nice achieved feeling smile

CalamityKate Thu 28-Feb-13 12:25:11

Right.

I did the C25K a couple of years ago and LOVED it. Sadly I had to stop due to my knees becoming very painful when I got to the stage of being able to run for 30 mins.

I'd got my gait analysed at a running shop and got decent trainers so I don't think it was that.

It took MONTHS for my knees to stop hurting. I was gutted because it was the fittest I've ever been and I really enjoyed it.

My knees are ok now and I've been wondering if its maybe worth giving it another go but taking longer to get to 30 mins running.

The only thing is, over the last few months I've found myself getting really achey and painy. I'm feeling very old sad

Has anyone taken up running when they're feeling decrepit??

I don't mind a bit of "Ooh I've worked those muscles" nice aching but I don't want to end up not being able to get out of bed!

LavenderBriggs Thu 28-Feb-13 12:52:09

Thanks Something It was proper hard work, but I'm so glad I did it. I find the smug feeling from a hard run can last at least one day, sometimes two.

CalamityKate Anyone who starts a post with "Right" clearly means business and deserves all support possible grin Do you have any other muscular things going on or have your knees been the only problem? When I get a pain I go to a company called Physiobench. They do an online assessment and for £28 will give you loads of strengthening exercises to do and they follow up and allow you to ask loads of questions. I find it more helpful than hands-on physio as it takes ages to fill the forms out, which I think allows me to think about what's happening in more detail than if I'm face to face with someone. Also, there's no physical manipulation (very important for me). It might just be a small imbalance in your hip which can be really easily solved.

LavenderBriggs Thu 28-Feb-13 12:58:13

And the decrepit part? Yes, that would be me. I started running at 43 years old and I have an underlying health condition. I'm very aware of pain and what I can do to make life easier and just by keeping track of what's going on painwise over the last two years it's become very clear that when I don't run I have more pain. I might get muscle soreness when I exercise, but when I don't I get a lot of joint and ligament pain.

CalamityKate Thu 28-Feb-13 13:22:41

Thank you! X

Belugagrad Thu 28-Feb-13 15:29:44

Well done lavender! Gorgeous sunny day today, I got out at lunch time and it was lovely and not too muddy anymore smile

With joint pain, I find running on grass makes the world of difference.

surfandturf Thu 28-Feb-13 22:52:38

Hi CalamityKate! I hope you can get back into running without it having a bad effect on your knees. There's only one way to find out I guess!

Hi Lavender, well done on your run today. I hope you are still feeling smug? You should be. My turn tomorrow!

Hi Belugagrad, Glad you enjoyed your run too!

How you getting on something? Have you been managing to get off the loo ok since your second run? wink

surfandturf Fri 01-Mar-13 07:18:29

2.39 miles in 26 mins this morning. Not bad. I want to concentrate on getting my distance up a little and once I've got that nailed I'll try to up my pace a bit. Does that sound like a good plan? My ideal aim is to eventually be able to do 5k in 30 mins - is that realistic?????

Somethingtothinkabout Fri 01-Mar-13 17:46:31

Well, given that I was broken for 2 days after my first run, and still hurting when I did my second, I woke up the day after it and nothing hurt at all confused I even thought I might have dreamt it.

It's weird, it's almost like all those people that used to tell me "the best thing for lactic acid in your legs is to go for another run" were right!

Or maybe I'm just WAY fitter already, I'll go with that smile

Surf, that sounds like a good goal to aim for, 2.39 must be pretty much 4km already? I think you could achieve that within a few months. I'm hoping to be able to do about the same.

surfandturf Sat 02-Mar-13 13:59:46

Hi Something, I've found that before. Felt like I can't walk but then push through it and think I'm gonna pay for this later - but actually feel much less achey afterwards.

It's taking me about 11 mins to run a mile (average) so I'm thinking it should take me roughly 40-45 mins to run 5k. If I can get that nearer to 30 mins I would be really chuffed. (I do have very short legs though!!!!) grin

I try to run 3 times during the week so that I can relax and enjoy the weekend. So far spent the morning at swimming lessons and then straight to football training with DC's - no rest for the wicked!

Have a great weekend everyone

LavenderBriggs Sun 03-Mar-13 10:45:08

Morning all. I should be working on my module (effects of exercise on muscles) - I might be able to give you info on why running makes your sore legs better. If I ever stop procrastinating and get my work done.

Well done for all running. The weather is turning and there's a very small hint that winter isn't going to last forever grin DH and I just gently jogged 5.8k in 47 minutes (I'm saying jogging as it's less pressure than talking about running).

I sorted my shoulder! I asked DH to check my ribs as I just couldn't get my left shoulder to 'sit' properly. DH had a good press on my back to see if he could spot anything out of line, he got to the sore spot, pressed, there was a loud pop and the pain started to melt away. I must have subluxated one of my ribs and now it's back in place the pain has gone by about 90%.

Is anyone out this weekend?

Somethingtothinkabout Sun 03-Mar-13 13:09:08

Oh my God Lavender! Had it popped out of place or something? Good work Mr Lavender! Gosh I'd never have the guts to do that, I'd be too worried about it falling out altogether grin

I went on a short run yesterday morning with DP, it was meant to be the usual route round the park and then I said "and then on the second lap we can cut into the park so it's only a half lap", and off we set. Apparently I wasn't clear and DP but in on the first lap and I followed wondering what on earth was going on, cue lots of snippy, out of breath "You said this", "No I didn't", "You definitely did" etc, such fun smile

Think I'll go again tomorrow night and try and do a bit further.

Would be very interested to hear about the logic behind the sore legs disappearing too.

Belugagrad Sun 03-Mar-13 14:56:51

Gorgeous day to be out today! I got out today for a little 30 min jog, don't usually run on weekends so very proud of
Myself!

LavenderBriggs Sun 03-Mar-13 15:11:54

That made me proper laugh out loud Something I could hear the panic. It's not that dramatic, just pain for days and days until I realise what's going on. The joint doesn't come out fully, it just moves out of place a bit and needs to be popped back in (am I helping here?). I'm actually pretty lucky, there are people with Ehlers Danlos who can't exercise at all and I'm able to go running, so it could be many, many times worse.

Also, well done for managing to run through an argument. DH and I have done it many times - good for breath control grin

Well done Belugagrad! You've every right to be very proud of yourself. You don't need to do too many 30 minute jogs before you start getting proper fit.

Right - DOMS (delayed onset muscle soreness) info. Just one bout of soreness- producing exercise actually develops a partial protective effect that reduces the chance of developing soreness in that same activity for weeks or months into the future. This is the headline, but I'm trying to find the reasons behind it. It might be that it takes your mind of the pain by using the muscles and making you feel good for doing more training. Or, it might be that the tiny tears that cause the soreness are healed more quickly when they have an improved blood flow. To be honest, the stuff on the module about how muscles work at a cellular level is making me feel a bit sick (reminiscent of the sick feeling I used to get in maths classes when I didn't understand quadratic equations).

Somethingtothinkabout Sun 03-Mar-13 22:18:09

I'll like the improved blood flow theory! Not least because having little tears in muscles makes us sound hardcore!

I also like the idea that you go once and do 3km and can't walk after, then you go the second time and do 3km again but this time your body's like "hell, come on you pansy! Give me more, I can take it, GRRRR! <angry army sergeant face> " You need to go further to get the same level of pain again.

Gosh, I've come over all motivated after all that growling. If it weren't so late I'd go out for a little trot. Alas, I think I'll just go and have a wee sloe gin to take the edge off smile

QOD Sun 03-Mar-13 22:34:49

Oh allo ladies!!
I started running Jan 16th, joined a club. First session was 2.4 miles, walk 1 min run 1 min
We were exhausted but pleased with ourselves!

Last week, we were promoted to the actual club, and ran with them yesterday ..... We did 5.3 miles in 1 hr 3 mins

Amazing how you can quickly build up, I go 3 times at least a week and can run for an hour, up hill and down dale, doesn't matter how slow, keep moving

Not lost any weight BUT gone from size 14 skinny jeggings to a 12

Bums lifted, bellies sagging LOL there's much less fat on my trunk.

I'm with a club affiliated to Run England, check and see if there is a local one?

Belugagrad Mon 04-Mar-13 07:12:16

Qod well done on the new jeans! I've booked
My holidays for June so I'm focused on toning before I go swimsuit shopping.

LavenderBriggs Mon 04-Mar-13 09:52:26

Haha Something "yeah, I've got tears in my muscles, I am that hard". To be honest, your enthusiasm is making me want to get out and run.

Hello QOD Well done for running such a huge distance! That's the trick - just keep moving - fast, slow, it doesn't matter smile

Morning Beluga you have got so much time to get yourself fit and toned for holiday smile

And it looks as if winter might not last for ever! There's a definite hint of spring in the air - very good news I"m tired of wearing leggings and tights under trousers in an attempt to keep warm. I want to wear shorts. And I hate running with loads of layers on so it'll be back to just running top and leggings very soon.

Belugagrad Mon 04-Mar-13 11:28:04

Yeah need to get them shorts on to help the tan along!

QOD Mon 04-Mar-13 16:47:06

It's really strange that I go on hol 6th April, to the 13th and I'm a bit pissed off that I'm missing two club runs

Who am I am what happened to QOD ?!

Belugagrad Mon 04-Mar-13 19:21:23

We'll turn in to those people that run on holiday!!

LavenderBriggs Tue 05-Mar-13 09:34:02

<narrows eyes> what's wrong with those people? grin

5.05 done in 43 minutes - slowest time ever. There was lots of walking and stopping to stretch sore calf muscles. In my defence, I was sick on Friday night/Saturday morning, I ran on Sunday, dug out the stationary rower yesterday and I've only just got my ribs all in the right place <sits down for a while>

Oh the tan - in summer I now get 'comedy legs'. Feet are white, ankles to knees are nut brown, thighs are paler, but have many tide-marks due to different shorts or leggings. I look like a clown.

Belugagrad Tue 05-Mar-13 12:24:58

whats slow to you is amazingly fast to me Lavender! Well done!

This morning I went out for the first time in 2013 without gloves on! Beautiful morning. Went out last night and did a fast road run, but this mornings country run felt slow because of it, which was a bit disappointing. If a run doesn't go as planned I really beat myself up over it. Need to stop doing that as its good I went out at all and I need to just say 'well done beluga' for that!

LavenderBriggs Tue 05-Mar-13 13:27:52

Hehe. You didn't see me moaning and complaining and threatening terrible things if DH made me run up a hill.

Well done for getting out - you really, really shouldn't worry about speed. Every single run is a good thing. Did you get your running kit on? Did you get out? Did you run? Did you get home? Look at all of the positives "It didn't feel that fast" is not good enough! (I also had some chores to run and walked another 5k - I'm so tired now - tired and ranty).

Have you thought of using Runkeeper - you can give yourself a target - I usually have 100k or so in the background.

Belugagrad Tue 05-Mar-13 16:37:24

Thanks for the boost lavender! Is run keeper an app?

Belugagrad Tue 05-Mar-13 19:33:29

Just downloaded it, excited to use it! Thanks for the tip.

LavenderBriggs Tue 05-Mar-13 19:39:43

Ooh! You're so a proper runner now smile (I upgraded to Elite because I like seeing the word after my name).

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Belugagrad Wed 06-Mar-13 05:50:52

When are you due lizbeth? I loved the long mat leave walks with baby

Somethingtothinkabout Wed 06-Mar-13 21:06:18

Hullo blush

I've been lurking for the past few days due to my shame of being a bit rubbish, really. I have sore mouth (emerging wisdom tooth) and I was using it as a piss poor excuse it was putting me off going.

So, I get in from work and I'm sitting reading about Belu getting Runkeeper and thinking "I have that app too" when my Runkeeper flashes a little text type message up to say something along the lines of "Come on, you did great last week, keep it up!". I took it as a sign and put my trainers on!

7km. BOOM! I picked a route that if I was struggling I could cut short but it was just one of those runs where it just felt alright so kept going for the full 7k. Feel on top of the world!

wine o'clock! xx

LavenderBriggs Wed 06-Mar-13 21:44:56

Evening all.

Hi Something Well done. 7k after work is brilliant.

DH has just signed up as a volunteer at our local Race for Life. I guess I'd better get my application sorted smile

Belugagrad Thu 07-Mar-13 11:22:20

well done Something! 7k is amazing, you and Lavender put me to shame, i do 5k on a good day, alot less on a bad day! (and nothing on a really bad day). I love that feeling when a run goes really well, I hope I get it today!

I have volunteered at a couple of Race of Life events, its really fun. I like being a marshall as you get to cheer people on when they are at their lowest and also you get a radio! I need to sign up for one of the 10k events this year I think.

On to business, yesterday was a rest day but we had the plumber in so I took my daughter out for a really long walk which was lovely in the sunshine. Today I went for a swim this morning and am planning to go for a run. Its not rained nearly as much as expected so should be a nice run! I am also using RunKeeper for the first time today, very excited!

Somethingtothinkabout Thu 07-Mar-13 12:11:33

Belugagrad, you can set your Runkeeper app to let you know where you are on your run - I have mine set so every 1km the lady speaks over my music to tell me the stats, for example "distance: 2km, time: 12minutes 30 seconds, Average pace 6 minutes 15 per kilometre" etc. I love it! When I used to run the app I used didn't do that, so I've never known exactly where I am or how I'm doing on each run until the end when I check it online (I know that probably sounds like the dark ages!) - Runkeeper is just so good! I've only used it 4 times so far though.

Lavender, what does the elite upgrade do? Would you say it's worth getting? Do you need to pay?

LavenderBriggs Thu 07-Mar-13 14:47:20

Beluga - 5k is brilliant! I'll tell him that it will be fun (I think he knows that, but it doesn't hurt to confirm it).

Something I can't remember how much, but it does cost (not a lot). It gives you a few more reports and you can do live tracking, so I can sit at home and watch DH when he goes for a long run. And you get 'Elite' after your name grin Runkeeper is great when you get enough runs under your belt to get some decent reports made up.

Belugagrad Thu 07-Mar-13 17:56:49

Run keeper didn't work Out in the stix where I runsad when I do a city run next I hope to get it goingsmile I did 30 mins of running today which was goodsmile

NordVeg Thu 07-Mar-13 21:26:03

hi all - dh has just bought a treadmill off eBay, collecting it at the weekend... semi-reluctantly I've agreed to give it a go (have never found any exercise I enjoy!)
am going to use the c25k podcasts, wish me luck!

starting early next week I reckon shock

LavenderBriggs Fri 08-Mar-13 08:42:36

Beluga - you can draw the route yourself on the map - that might help a bit.

Hi NordVeg I didn't think there was an exercise that I enjoyed until I started seeing and feeling some benefit, then it starts getting good. I was out for a run with friends and we agreed that, yes, this is very boring. But the fun part comes when you try on clothes, or run for a bus without any effort, or check your resting heart rate and see that you've lowered it. Have you ever run before?

Belugagrad Fri 08-Mar-13 12:16:30

Good Luck Nordveg! You won't regret it :-)

I went out this morning on a road run and did 3.5 miles so was really pleased with that :-) Got that Friday feeling!

NordVeg Sat 09-Mar-13 19:30:27

not since school....cough... a couple (and a bit) of decades ago. And I was always crap at anything more than 200 metres (no stamina!)
shock
wish me luck

Somethingtothinkabout Sat 09-Mar-13 23:07:05

How often would you ladies say you need to go each week for it to really benefit? This week I've only gone twice, I know I need more than that, 3 times would be the most I could realistically manage, is that enough?

I'm at that stage where it hasn't made a physical difference yet, but after a run, and the next day, I feel like my waist may be on the cusp of making a comeback. The day after that I start to feel all soft and flabby again sad

I guess it will take a month or so before I start to notice any real difference?

YY to being able to run for a bus easier, yesterday I had to go to the post office before work, massive queue so I had to run to work to not be late, and I managed to run twice the distance than I've been able to do for the last year smile (Can I count that as another official run? It was 5 mins).

QOD Sun 10-Mar-13 08:36:54

I go 3 times a week now, and I love the little aches and twinges and so on, but its not pain pain as long as your warm up and cool down.

Circle your ankles, then hands on leg above knee and kinda circle those too, swivel hips, rotate shoulders and it releases synovial fluid and gets you ready.

Cool down by stretching calfs, thighs, hold fold up to bum etc

Enjoy!! See if you join a club or a like minded friend, it pushes you so much more

LavenderBriggs Sun 10-Mar-13 09:46:39

Something I'd say 3 times a week at the beginning, don't worry about trying to fit in more than that. If you can manage three times a week for a few weeks/a month you will start to see improvements in your fitness. The run to work is part of your new found fitness - that's the fun part.

I think it's important to think about why you're running. If you're doing it because you think you should, you're not going to get as much out of it than if you have some clear goals and plans. The most helpful thing is to plan out some goals - short, medium and long term. Short could be 'run at least twice a week', medium could be 'run for 30 minutes' and long 'enter 5k race in 6 months' - tailor them to fit what you want to achieve - the clearer picture of what you want, the better chance of success.

Somethingtothinkabout Sun 10-Mar-13 12:52:44

I think the best way to describe why I'm doing it is that I feel better "when I am a runner". I get a lot of confidence from knowing I can run 10k for example, and I never ever have "fat days" when I'm running.

I don't really lose much weight, but I do feel much more toned and my clothes feel and look better on me.

It could well be just a mental thing, my brain doesn't allow me to feel as self conscious about my body as much, as it sort of reasons that "you are fit, as you run 10km, you can trust that you look your best".

More importantly, perhaps, I also think it's a good stress reliever for work. When I'm stressed about something, after a run I feel like I am able to put whatever it is into perspective.

Once I can comfortably run more than about 4-5 miles, I think I do really enjoy going for long runs. I enjoy the accomplished feeling at the end of it.

I also sleep much, much better.

Hmmm, some of those reasons sound a bit vain and silly blush

LavenderBriggs Sun 10-Mar-13 13:07:25

I can't see the vain and silly reason. They all seem important to me. Confidence, lower stress, toned, good sleep, accomplished - nope nothing vain there.

Sleep is soooo important. The outcome of my day is often based upon the amount and quality of sleep.

Belugagrad Mon 11-Mar-13 08:57:14

I totally agree with Lavender in that you need a goal for your running, then after achieving the goal its nice to have a month or so without anything booked in, but then you start craving another challenge!

In terms of how often, I can't imagine running more than 4 times a week, i need my rest days!

So having cast off my gloves the other week I was back in hat and gloves this morning! It was a very bracing run but I ate alot over mothers day weekend so had to get moving today! Anyone else going out today?

LavenderBriggs Mon 11-Mar-13 17:11:42

I don't think I could aim for 4 days! I aim for 2 which gives me a lovely big chance of overachieving.

Not going out today, I just can't get my breath in cold weather. I've got some physio exercises I should be doing, but I"m having a slight issue with motivation - just cannot seem to get up and do my useful exercises.

I've lost a bit more weight, so I can't wait to get out again, I love the feeling of having to art less of me around.

Belugagrad Mon 11-Mar-13 18:05:13

I lack
Motivation with floor stuff. I had some time yesterday and was watching glee, planned to do sit ups and things but could not get my arse in gear!

Somethingtothinkabout Mon 11-Mar-13 19:34:59

I went out yesterday, (managed to somehow catch 40 minutes between blizzards, some days life just goes your way!).

I wore long leggings and long sleeves and I had a buff/thin snood type thing that I put over my nose and mouth which did help a bit with breathing in the cold air. Earmuffs were also needed. Gosh, I must have looked a right weirdo! grin

I think I'll try and make my rule "at least 2 per week", then I'll be able to over achieve too! I like that idea I'll secretly aim for 3 a week but just won't document that anywhere wink

Belugagrad Mon 11-Mar-13 20:55:09

Well done something!

surfandturf Tue 12-Mar-13 10:54:18

Hi All, I haven't been on here for over a week and I'm so proud of you all!!! Well done, I'm impressed you've all been out running plenty and spurring each other on!

I myself must hang my head in shame. I haven't been out since last Monday. I did my best time ever but haven't done anything since. I really need to try and get out again soon.

Been feeling fluey all last week - achey and tired and couldn't quite put my finger on what it was till yesterday when I started with a blocked nose, sore throat and swollen glands sad

I've also booked a GP appt as I think I may have developed carpel tunnel syndrome. confused Having a lot of pain and numbness in my right hand especially over night when the numbness spreads right up my arm - to the point that I'm not sleeping very well. Definitely need to get it looked at I think.

Then yesterday DS came home from school and slumped on the couch for a few hours complaining of headache, earache and tummy ache. Cue another sleepless night.

All in all I don't feel like going out running much (even though I know I should)

Well done again everyone! I'm sure I'll be joining the ranks again very soon. If I don't I know I'll be right back to square one and I don't fancy having to start all over again!

LavenderBriggs Wed 13-Mar-13 08:12:34

Morning all.

It's just too cold for me to run. I'm not panicking, it will come back. Everyone I know is struggling a bit. As long as we have our plans in place, we will be fine - <looks around to see if everyone has their plans written down>

Beluga I think it's just one of those things where you have to be so strong with yourself. I have to force myself. One thing that works is telling myself that "I do my exercises" instead of "I'm going to do my exercises".

Something You're carrying the running baton for us! People wouldn't have been thinking that you looked like a weirdo, they would have been jealous because you're actually running smile

Surf Oh no! Sorry to hear about the ill. It will be ok (keep repeating, keep repeating). We are runners, but we don't run when ill or in stupid cold weather.

I think I've figured out my mood swings - I'm 45, I keep coming over all warm and I keep getting uncontrollable rages - of course it's the perimenopause - why couldn't I see that before? Will try and see GP before week is out.

Belugagrad Thu 14-Mar-13 19:26:01

Did you get a gp appointment lavender?

Today was a good day. Swam and ran. Run was really good , felt I could have ran forever! But I had to go back to work! smile

The half marathon I used to do annually
Before life took over has been cancelled So im a
bit gutted about that as I wanted to train for it. Need a goal!

LavenderBriggs Fri 15-Mar-13 07:50:54

I did! GP had students in - I talked through symptoms with one who then presented my case to the GP. GP said he'd do blood tests to check hormones, thyroid and liver function. I said that I pass out during blood tests so the lovely student came with with me and actually held my (frankly sweaty) hand. Once the practice nurse had sorted the bloods she started a break so we had an interesting 15 minute natter around weightloss and low carb diets. I'm going back on Monday for blood results.

I know that feeling! You get into your stride and you can just run and run. Are you looking around for other races?

How's everyone else?

Belugagrad Fri 15-Mar-13 10:20:08

Well done for letting the students get involved. I remember being pregnant and letting about 5 students all have ago at measuring my belly and feeling for the head. Good luck for Monday.

Yes, I feel this summer I need a race. There is a 10k in Sussex in May which could be a goer - i hear its pretty down there and thats what i'm looking for out of a race, different scenery, beautiful landscapes and things. Need to see what the course is like. On the same weekend there is also a 10 mile which I could try instead, feels like a big leap from what i'm doing though....watch this space!

LavenderBriggs Fri 15-Mar-13 10:57:04

I did have a bit of an internal argument first "hmm...talk about scary perimenopausal stuff with a complete stranger..." but I can't resist talking (and obviously students need to get experience of mad old women).

Ooh, the pretty scenery one sounds nice. I'm going to book my race for life this weekend, that gives me a few months to get back into good shape.

I've arranged a run with a friend next week - we used to run a couple of times a week together, but life got in the way for both of us - but we're back!

Belugagrad Fri 15-Mar-13 16:16:44

When you find the right running partner it's just the best. Ran with a girl at Uni and it just clicked but they're hard to find!

Today my husband had the car so he dropped
Me at work then I have 2 buses to get home. However, I only took one bus and ran the 2nd bus route! Was tough! Not used to running wearin a backpack but good to get home and saved bus fare!

QOD Sat 16-Mar-13 18:54:18

My running partner in crime is having lymphodema issues which is impacting her running.
The pain when there's fluid makes it hard to run. I don't know what I'll do without her if she has to stop

Belugagrad Sun 17-Mar-13 18:46:56

Qod you'll ave to run twice as hard for hersmile

LavenderBriggs Mon 18-Mar-13 08:45:45

QOD sorry to hear about your friend, that sounds pretty unpleasant for her.

Beluga well done for the extra 'free' run smile

My running friend saved me from giving up. I run with DH, but he's pretty fast and I can sometimes struggle (he tries and runs at his very lowest speed with me). I started running with a friend who is a very slow runner and it was a revelation - I got my breathing sorted, I stopped hurting myself from trying to do too much and I was finally able to run for 40 minutes without stopping. I had been running too quickly for my strength and fitness. So, the moral seems to be - find a running partner who is slower than you!

I also say 'jogging' a lot. It takes me back down to a more gentle place/pace.

I couldn't run or even use the rowing machine at the weekend as my arm is a bit of a mess from the blood test - Ehlers Danlos makes bruising a bit worse. I have a huge bruise and two green bruise lines tracking down the veins on my forearm and it is very sore. It feels a bit better today so I'm going to have a go at rowing later.

How is everyone else?

Belugagrad Mon 18-Mar-13 18:19:59

I did a rowing team build at work, my first time doing it and it wa really fun. Haven't bought one though, maybe if I had a garage. Have a good rowsmile so today I did 5 miles in 43 mins, very happysmile signed up for. 10 mile run in 7 weeks so cutting out swimmig and focusing on running. Need to do long runs and more speed work. Scary stuff! My husbands making a banner.

surfandturf Mon 18-Mar-13 18:57:46

Hi everyone!

Belugagrad - you are putting us all to shame with your 5 miles in 43 mins and your 10 mile races! Well done - I hope to be at your level before this year is out.

Lavender - did you get your results from the docs? Hope all is ok?

Well after 2 weeks of not doing any exercise I forced myself to go for a 'jog' this morning. I thought I would just do a short one to try and build myself up again but actually found myself doing one of my normal routes and in not too bad a time either!

I was getting ready to go out for a few drinks on Friday night with friends and as I looked in the mirror I noticed that my bingo wings didn't look quite as bingo-ey as usual! Also I need to put another hole in my belt as my jeans are starting to feel a bit loose! So although I haven't actually lost any weight, I can't deny that I'm definitely seeing some benefits! That should keep me motivated for a bit longer, would just love to strip off some of the layers and feel like summer's coming now! Keep going everyone! smile

Somethingtothinkabout Tue 19-Mar-13 00:08:32

Hi everyone! So pleased to check back in and see how everyone is progressing. Beluga, wow!

I've been on a long weekend down in London with DP, so haven't done any running since The Cold Run last Sunday (5.5km). We get back tomorrow morning and I'm probably setting myself up for failure by trying to schedule a run for tomorrow night as I'll be knackered, so I think Wednesday evening is more realistic.

I'm so worried that I'll have lost the (very little) amount of fitness I've built up and be back to square one. We've probably walked 6-8 miles a day every day we've been here (me in heels too! Baaaad idea!), but no running at all (Kamakazi road crossings aside).

Lavender, I'm with you on the running partner thing. I run with DP too. He is too quick for me as well (his extra foot in height is my excuse smile ) but he goes at my pace for me, but I do like the times I get to go with my girlfriends as it's a bit more comfortable and I can chat a bit at the same time.

When me and DP first got together he was badgering me to go out running with him so I caved in after about a year. We went, 10minutes in he says "Come on, surely you can go faster than that ". angry

It was 3 years before I would go running with him again! And even then, he was under strict instructions to stay 1metre behind me at all times and not speak lest I stab him. We've got a good rhythm now though smile

Belugagrad Tue 19-Mar-13 12:32:39

Glad you're seeing results Surf! And it sounds like your jog was more of a run ;-)

Good luck with your Wednesday run Something.

I'm finding this running with your husband thing so sweet, my husband has never been that interested in running but he is naturally slim and builds muscle so quickly, its infuriating!

Something - its so hard to run when you're on holiday. I'm going down to Dorset this weekend and am packing my running things and want to go out for at least one run! I know it will be so beautiful but I need to get out there and actually do it!

surfandturf Tue 19-Mar-13 13:48:01

Oooh Belugagrad where in Dorset are you going - I live in Dorset!!!!

My DH runs too. I have never been out on a run with him, a) because I'm pretty sure he runs fast and b) we have to have one of us to stay with the DC!!!!

LavenderBriggs Thu 21-Mar-13 08:51:41

Morning all. Thanks Surf, bloods were all clear and everything is normal so we're going to keep an eye on things and see what the next few months bring.

My sports psychology course has a lot to say about support around exercise. For married people the best indicator of success in sticking to an exercise regime is spousal support - whether they run with you or not, the support is the thing. I think Something has got it sorted grin

I still haven't been for a run. I've been rowing, but all the health stuff has knocked me off course for running. I might need a kick up the bum (which DH won't deliver as he can see my blood test bruise is still big and painful and feels a bit sorry for me).

Belugagrad Thu 21-Mar-13 12:24:28

Well done for the rowing Lavender! Glad your results are all clear.

Hi Surf, I'm in Poole, seeing family and then driving up to Peppa Pig World! (Beyond excited!). Want to try and do a beach run. I was watching the Biggest Loser USA the other day and they were at Jillian's LA beach house and it made me want to run on the beach so much! All those Shred DVDs she sells have got her one impressive house.

It was a big morning this morning - i sacrificed my weekly swim (which I LOVE) to do my first long run training for my 10 mile race. Did 8 miles before work, very happy. Not particularly fast except towards the end when i was running late for work! Backs hurting a bit now. Going to have a little run tomorrow and take Saturday off. At least the sun was out today which really helped.

surfandturf Thu 21-Mar-13 20:40:42

Ah I'm a little down the way in Christchurch Belugagrad. I like running by the beach - but not on the beach. It's hard running on sand! I always feel like I'm about to twist my ankle. You could run along sandbanks looking at the harbour or along the seafront. It's a bit wet at the moment so probably won't feel much like LA grin

Glad your tests came back OK Lavender. You are wise to listen to your body and you will get running again when you are good and ready. Well done for keeping up with the rowing though - any exercise has got to be good right?

Somethingtothinkabout Sat 23-Mar-13 14:35:06

I hear running on sand is very good for your calf and bum muscles! I've never done it, but I'd imagine it feels like some sort of resistance training or running with 10kg weights on both ankles! Could you have a dip in the sea on hot days as a little treat?!

Just went for a little 3.3km run there, didn't get to go midweek because we've had snow and I've had that barky cough that's going about. Chest felt fine on that little run which is good, legs felt dead though!

I'm considering taking the stairs up to work at least a few mornings a week. It's 8 storeys, I get jelly-legged by 5, but think it would be good for my beanbag bum!

surfandturf Sat 23-Mar-13 17:12:01

I'm so looking forward to summer something. I would love to run through the little waves along the beach and I think the sand will be more compacted because it's wet so shouldn't be as much risk of breaking my ankle!

*Belugagrad *Peppard Pig world is fab! I took the DC last summer - wanted to take them before they outgrew it but actually we all loved it and I'm pretty sure we'll all be going back again!!!

Belugagrad Mon 25-Mar-13 19:34:52

Just got back from peppa pig worrld! Loved it! So cute and clean and just perfect. The boats were a real hit! Too cold for muddy puddles though! Boo sad

So running on sand is haaarad! But fun! Busy on sandbank beach though, could not move for joggers and dog walkers. This morning after my run I lay on the beach for 10 mins
and relaxed, heaven.
Came home to snow! No running tomorrowsad

How are the stairs going
Something? I once did the stairs at covent garden. Never again!

Somethingtothinkabout Mon 25-Mar-13 22:47:20

Beluga that sounds bliss! Although I can't imagine it was too warm?! Imagine that in the sun though, heaven. I wonder if I'll ever get to do that in Scotland envy

I went for a run tonight, did 7k again for the second time, was a bit better than the first one and that's settled my worries I'd lost all my fitness after my week off. It felt good. I think after a few more of those I'll try and step it up to 10km, maybe in the next 3-4 weeks.

My God, those Covent Garden stairs! I went down them once and by the time I got to the bottom I swear I'd gone cross eyed from dizziness!

Lavender, I hope your bruise is heeling. Can you cycle do you think? Maybe in a gym so you don't need to use your arm to steer?

Well done everyone! This thread is such a good support. thanks

surfandturf Fri 29-Mar-13 08:26:03

Hi All, Haven't been on here for a while but that doesn't mean I've been slacking (ok well maybe a little on the jogging front) but that said, last week I went to an 'intense interval training' class - man that was tough! It took 3 days before I could walk properly again! I also played netball this week which took me back in time (minus the gym slip!)

Going to try the interval training again over the weekend and the sun has come out so may try and get out for a refreshing run too.

Glad you enjoyed your break in sunny Dorset Belugagrad.

Have a great Easter break everyone and if you do eat lots of Easter eggs remember to try and run them all off grin

Belugagrad Fri 29-Mar-13 15:32:25

Happy easter all! Need to keep going over the long weekend! Did 6 miles yesterday. But I've easten lots of chocolate already...

Intervals sounds good! I want a good circuit
Class. I was inspired by my sister today who has started in her work football team. If she can do that I can go for a run! Football looks like hard work!

TheEasterQODdy Sat 30-Mar-13 14:42:21

Oops just accidentally posted on the wrong running thread grin

Did my first 10km run today! Yippeeeee

I wasn't the slowest either

ok so the slowest was in agony after doing a 10 MILE race yesterday, but still

Somethingtothinkabout Thu 04-Apr-13 13:43:26

Well done QOD How'd you feel doing it? Ready for it (and thrilled at the end) or just puting one foot in front of the other the whole way round until you got there (and thrilled at the end!) wink

I went for a run on Monday, it was a disaster sad First awful one I've had this year. really heavy lethargic legs, calves burning, chest tight (even though it wasn't cold and I'm not ill) and I had to stop after less than 4k. <sigh> Need to get back on the horse now and wipe that one from my memory.

How's everyone else getting on?

QOD Thu 04-Apr-13 16:50:19

Ready and thrilled and could have kept going. But as soon as I stopped I was purple and sweating!
I went out yesterday and did 2 miles and OM flipping g. That was much harder!!
Freezing cold and at the end of the day as opposed to morning.

Going for a 3.5 miler tomorrow then holiday for a week in the sun. Will be doing a couple of morning runs

mirai Thu 11-Apr-13 16:45:59

still lurking blush

QOD Thu 11-Apr-13 18:51:03

I went for a run three days ago in Tenerife where I am currently on holiday.
I got utterly lost and rather scared

surfandturf Thu 11-Apr-13 21:02:26

Uh-oh QOD. That would be pretty scary. Hope you are ok now and enjoying the rest of your hols!

Mirai! Hello stranger!

Sorry ladies I have no running news to report - been utterly shite lately...

QOD Fri 12-Apr-13 08:51:26

Lol. I wasn't lost for 3 days though, I wrote that badly.
I could go today but meh, it's hot.
Home tomorrow BOOOOOO

Belugagrad Fri 12-Apr-13 11:44:37

Well done for running holiday QOD - its a shame you got lost but when that happens to me it stops me thinking about my run/pain as i am so focused on being scared/ getting my bearings! (I got lost over Easter running at my in-laws - i don't really know their area).

I have had a few good runs. Last weekend in the sunshine was a particular highlight and i did 8 miles yesterday morning in the rain! Can't decide whether to run today. I suffer from insomnia and last night was a bad night so i sort of want to just curl up but the fresh air might help me sleep better tonight...I don't know. Have good weekends everyone.