Have you/ your family discussed any potential post-Brexit 'Plan Bs'?

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Quandry Sat 05-Nov-16 21:23:51

It's hard to predict what might happen over the next couple of years, so over the last month we've been thiking about the best way to keep our options open, and we've done the following:

- investigated family heritage for European links. DH's Polish background is too far back, but my Scottish grandfather would likely make me eligible for dual Scottish Nationality in the event of Scotland gaining independence.
-researched our potential eligibility to move to/work/retire in Canada, New Zealand, Australia
- investigated buying small properties in Scotland or France

Several of our friends in dual nationality families have been applied for EU passports for their babies/children.

Has anyone else been making any plans?

Peregrina Sat 05-Nov-16 21:34:34

We have - but an Irish Grandma turned out to have been born in the UK and probably not registered as Irish. My Scottish background is much too far distant - about 5 generations ago. Might try to buy a small Scottish property. Grandchildren will have Irish passports as well as UK ones.

Bolshybookworm Sun 06-Nov-16 07:02:54

We have done all of the above. We have close ties with Scotland so that's one option. The problem for us is that we are still recovering, financially, from the last recession so don't have the savings needed to emigrate. Scotland we could probably manage though.

LordRothermereBlackshirtCunt Sun 06-Nov-16 07:10:48

DH has now got an Irish passport and I'm applying for French citizenship, both on the basis of parentage.

Andcake Sun 06-Nov-16 07:14:34

Dp exploring Irish passport. I'm shit scared financially we are struggling middle now so not poor or rich just hard working and everything still is tight😟😟😟😟😟

Believeitornot Sun 06-Nov-16 07:22:41

Apart from stocking dried goods under the stairs, nothing.

My grandfather was Scottish but he's long gone so no idea if that works.

We could get Irish passports for the kids (MIL).

I might start actively saving again and will look at a second property in Scotland. We were thinking of getting one anyway so this makes sense.

Fucking hell David Cameron. You've really fucked this up

wherehavealltheflowersgone Sun 06-Nov-16 07:34:35

No non-UK links for us, but have discussed moving to Canada / NZ / Australia, and started stockpiling dry food and water, but my biggest concern is the loss in value of the pound - if we do start proper saving, when the shit hits the fan and we decide the time has come to emigrate, wouldn't our savings be almost worthless? Genuine Q if anyone knows the answer!

InfiniteSheldon Sun 06-Nov-16 07:41:38

The economy is doing well FTSE at a good rate, my ds has seen greatly increased demand in Germany for his work and his wife is now able to go part-time, my dd has seen the pressure easing in her job and so we will be relaxing our financial prepping just hope A50 is invoked soon the sooner we stop giving the wasteful corrupt EU money the better.

DoNotBringLulu Sun 06-Nov-16 07:58:14

My dh has requested forms for Irish passports, for himself and dc, my late FIL was born in Ireland, I think his birth would have been registered as British though; dh had one British grandparent (army officer) and Irish grandmother. Have to chase up forms, requested over a month ago. I've heard they are inundated at Irish passport office! I am concerned about young people having to enter job market, job losses and narrowing opportunities.

Peregrina Sun 06-Nov-16 08:10:40

Buying a small property in Scotland is maybe the only avenue for us. I expect all my children to leave the UK and also expect some of their cousins to emigrate. As you say, Thanks Cameron. As someone said, was it Mark Carney - no one voted to be worse off!

Trufflethewuffle Sun 06-Nov-16 08:13:07

Unfortunately for us we have no Irish or other non English background. We are too old to emigrate either.

What worries me is that as we progress through Brexit that our pension provision will take such a battering and won't have time to recover before we need to draw it.

DH's work is linked to the banking industry so that is a bit of a worry too.

Trufflethewuffle Sun 06-Nov-16 08:14:15

What does having a property in Scotland do?

Bolshybookworm Sun 06-Nov-16 08:24:12

That's just it, isn't it infinite? Those who are already wealthy and have investments will be fine as share prices rise and overseas jobs/investments bring big returns because of the exchange rate. My dad is in this position and I'm very happy for him. If you're in the squeezed middle though, like me and and, you're fucked. Any price rises will hit us hard. We'll just about manage but it's going to be tight. If my industry ups ships and leaves the uk (I'm in sci/tech so we're facing significant job cuts) then we're screwed.

But that's ok, you carry on in your bubble.

HeadDreamer Sun 06-Nov-16 08:28:28

DH and I both have NZ citizenship and have thought about applying for the kids. But haven't done anything because it is relatively straightforward as it is just citizenship by descent. I really doesn't want to go back though as we have settled here angry

InfiniteSheldon Sun 06-Nov-16 08:33:13

excuse me but I am the squeezed middle! Worked really hard, self employed yet my pension is worthless despite years of careful planning and paying, my dh is ex army then had a Post Office and lost everything in this recession. We are by no means wealthy the recession has hit us and hit us hard but hey you stay in your pompous self righteous bubble and assume anyone who disagrees with you is selfish stupid.

Peregrina Sun 06-Nov-16 08:33:23

What does having a property in Scotland do?

At the moment, nothing, but banking on Independence. Which is a bit of a long shot at the moment.

HeadDreamer Sun 06-Nov-16 08:38:01

I'm very scared about our jobs. Pensions are too far away for us. But what can we do?

ChittyBB Sun 06-Nov-16 08:41:20

DH works in the investment banking sector and his company are planning to relocate toDublin as they need an EU base. We don't want to live in Dublin but he is unlikely to get a similar paid job here as the whole sector is shaky about Brexit and many companies are looking at moving to EU cities. So I think we have no choice but to leave family and friends and disrupt the kids schooling. I will also have to give up my UK job and stay at home to re settle the family. Our big decision is whether to sell our London home assuming a property crash will take place or keep it because up to now it's been an amazing investment.

Hellmouth Sun 06-Nov-16 08:46:57

No plans at the moment. I have barbadian citizenship through my mum, but I haven't researched if 1. My DS will have citizenship 2. My DP would have citizenship if we got married.

Plus, that involves getting married, which we don't really want to do just yet

Plus, I'm not sure I want to move to Barbados lol. It's nice for holidays, but my DP is a very pale ginger and might catch fire the minute we step off the plane lol.

One thing we have decided on, though, is that we're going to hold off on buying a home until we see what the fall out will be. My DP is convinced house prices will plummet.

annandale Sun 06-Nov-16 08:49:52

Nothing.

I'm nervous about the post-Brexit future but not terrified. I think my city will become much less prosperous and I may or may not lose my job but I think there will be SOME form of work that I should be able to do. I don't think that the tap water will become undrinkable though.

bananafish81 Sun 06-Nov-16 08:54:20

My family are eligible for German passports under provision in the German constitution for descendants of refugees from Nazi Germany who were stripped of this citizenship

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/30/uk-descendants-of-jewish-refugees-seek-german-citizenship-after-brexit-vote?0p19G=c

The guy at the German consulate said they used to get about 5 applications a month before the referendum - and that now it was more like 20 a day. So the twenty fold increase reported in the article seems somewhat modest

Bolshybookworm Sun 06-Nov-16 09:04:00

Why aren't you worried about price rises, then, infinite? Genuine question. We were also hit very hard by the recession and that's why I'm so scared- we've already cut right back. If you're squeezed then what will you do when household bills rise and why aren't you worried?

Incidentally, I worked my ass off through my twenties and thirties in an industry that was screwed by the recession and will now he destroyed by Brexit. So excuse me if I come across as self righteous but I am justifiably fucked off. Feel like we have been struggling up hill for the last 10 years and now it's going to get worse, not better.

InfiniteSheldon Sun 06-Nov-16 09:16:59

No offense taken its a very emotive issue and I appreciate how hard it is to see the other side. flowers I voted for the long term future, for my dc and dgc to protect them from the EU superstate, I accept short term financial pain MAY be the price we all pay. The village I grew up in has been devastated by EU policies, the school my dc went to has been decimated by immigration, same for the local gp and hospital. Price rises across the country IF that's what we see is worth it I will pay the price, work harder, volunteer more until things stabilise. In twenty years I believe we will be better off financially and morally and our dc will be safer for leaving the EU.

Peregrina Sun 06-Nov-16 09:24:55

Feel like we have been struggling up hill for the last 10 years and now it's going to get worse, not better.

Please write to Theresa May and quote her words about being for families just managing back at her. She will do nothing but thank you for your letter, if that, but the more she gets, something might just get through to her.

Bolshybookworm Sun 06-Nov-16 09:41:15

I don't agree with your views infinite, but I can see where you're coming from and I hope you're right about some long term gain, because it's a whole lot of pain right now! One point I would argue with is on hospitals and gps. I work with hospitals all over the country and most, if not all, are short of funding at the moment. Many of them are in areas of low immigration, so it's not because of increased demand from immigrants. This is because the government have cut NHS funding to the bone at the same time as slashing the social care budget. It's also because Andrew Lansley completely screwed up the funding system. So the problems with gps/hospitals are not because of immigration, they are directly because of government policy. I'm actually really angry that the government have so effectively passed the buck on this onto a completely innocent group of people, talk about scapegoating!

Sorry, you've probably heard this argument 50 times, but it's a bugbear of mine. Just keep an eye on your local services and see if they improve as immigration falls. I'd be very surprised if they do.

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