Leavers - how do we feel about Theresa May as PM?

(69 Posts)
Surferjet Sun 10-Jul-16 19:16:07

I'm not sure I trust her.
I know she said 'Brexit means Brexit' but.....

bkgirl Sun 10-Jul-16 20:44:42

Me neither but then again I am deeply skeptical of most politicians. Anyway I want to hear about their views on TTIP. That would sway me.

A4Document Sun 10-Jul-16 21:14:36

I'm not quite sure yet! She seems sensible, with the political strength and level headed approach that we'll need for a PM. At the moment I tend to believe her when she says "Brexit Means Brexit" and think she'll be a good negotiator and diplomat. She isn't goady, she comes across well, but she is tough.

I'm not a Tory and don't agree with all Theresa May has voted for in the past. But for the time ahead, and for what needs to be done, I think she will be good. I'm rapidly losing confidence in Andrea Leadsom who has shown her lack of political experience in recent days.

I have some concerns about May being the "party favourite" in some ways. I don't want to see her under anyone's spell, as I don't want to see her good qualities undermined. A woman with a grammar school background makes a change from the Eton men, so I don't want to see Osborne/Cameron/Johnson pulling the strings, and I'd be horrified if they tried to push things back to remaining in the EU!

Surferjet Sun 10-Jul-16 21:28:58

Anyway I want to hear about their views on TTIP. That would sway me

Yes, I agree.

& yes, A4, she definitely comes across as far more professional.

Surferjet Mon 11-Jul-16 14:05:34

Here we go......let's see what she says about A50 in her 'victory' speech.

Kummerspeck Mon 11-Jul-16 16:54:18

A4 has said it perfectly for me.

Ultimately we need a bit of stability as soon as possible and although May was not for Brexit she was not very visible for Remain so she will probably find unifying the party easier than Leadsom would have.
I might be wrong but I suspect this weekend showed Leadsom just how bruising politics is at that level and how inexperienced she is with it despite having done well in the Brexit debates so I think she has done the right thing. Hopefully by stepping down at this point, she will be included in the ongoing government and the country can start moving forward.

I am also relieved that this gets Cameron out quicker than expected, I resent seeing him swanning around when he dropped the country into this uncertainty. Putting a boot behind him is a good thing imo

HelpfulChap Mon 11-Jul-16 17:00:53

She was regarded as 'soft' Remain while i was 'soft' Leave so overall I am not to unhappy. Die-hard Leavers will find her unacceptable I think.

Probably the best option all round if bridges are to be built.

Draylon Mon 11-Jul-16 18:16:02

Slightly off OP, but I think Junkers wears a fair bit of blame. Hell bent on not allowing a chink of compromise when Cameron went to see them.

However, Cameron should never have allowed this referendum.

While few of us could have predicted the scale of the upheavals we've now seen; but in the same way Remainers are being told to suck it up, Leavers need to 'suck up' the new PM. It doesn't matter if you feel 'trust' or not, as events are so fast moving, who can keep up?

Surferjet Mon 11-Jul-16 18:31:36

It's not a 'suck it up' attitude at all. It's us merely pointing out what democracy actually means to people who don't understand it.
We were promised a referendum, we got one, & we voted to leave.
52 -> 48

Draylon Mon 11-Jul-16 19:03:13

To me it more clearly demonstrates why we vote for politicians to represent us as given issues as complex as the EU, and given the amount of 'Buyer's regret' we've seen; and given the nervous leavers "OK, chaps, let's all be friends" posts we see on social meeja....

..whether we trust Teresa May is actually neither here nor there.

Shall we have a referendum about her?

HPFA Mon 11-Jul-16 19:03:17

I suspect she will negotiate a Norway option - I can't see her exiting the single market. UKIPPers will hate it. She's in a good position really - she isn't bound by all the false promises of the Leave campaign which should get her off the hook when we still have free movement and there's not a penny extra for the NHS.
Her piece in the Times could have been written by Ed Miliband (apparently it even used a phrase he'd put in a conference speech) so she's clearly going for all those Labour voters who would never vote for Corbyn. I can't see Loathsome's shocking ideas about ending all employment rights getting anywhere.
I'd love to see her taking serious action on housing - she's been talking a lot about inter-generational fairness so maybe?

HPFA Mon 11-Jul-16 19:05:21

Sorry, forgot that thread was aimed at Leavers but don't think my post was goady. Certainly wasn't intended to be.

Draylon Mon 11-Jul-16 19:14:40

No YOU take control- no, YOU take control

Peregrina Mon 11-Jul-16 19:35:18

I tend to be of the 'suck it up school' too, (although I am not a Leave person, so perhaps can't speak here). TM's election is clearly following the Tory party rules so she became leader fair and square. I expect Gove thought he would do better, and I would have liked to have seen a Gove/May contest.

Leasdom just never had sufficient experience. She had about the same amount of experience as Cameron did when he was elected Tory Leader, but he had a little bit of time to learn the job, and his tenure in Office has ended up in complete disaster, in part because of this. Leasdom might have been wise to reflect on that before standing.

Surferjet Mon 11-Jul-16 19:37:34

No problem HPFA smile

Draylon Mon 11-Jul-16 19:50:24

Gove? He who doesn't have any truck with experts? Do you have 15-18 year olds??

Draylon Mon 11-Jul-16 19:54:32

I seriously worry about 'the choices' now on offer!

In the same way many Brexiteers cannot believe the carnage that has ensued- thus 'Regreteers' grin... I now feel an odd sympathy for Cameron. He seriously miscalculated in offering a referendum; safe, as he thought, in the knowledge it'd be madness to vote 'Leave'- but, it transpired a Certain Segment of the population weren't along for the ride- sadly, many of whom are about to discover what life without EU subsidies means.

Penvelopesnightie Mon 11-Jul-16 19:55:51

I think Theresa May will be quite pliable as to do everything George Osbourne tells her to. She will seek advice from Cameron , naturally , but she will still be a breath of fresh air. Labour will do well to rectify their image and have their first female leader , take the bull by the horns and catapult themselves into the modern world .

AnnaForbes Mon 11-Jul-16 20:17:15

Much that I liked Andrea Leadsom, I don't think she was up to the job of PM so we didn't really have a choice however I am still pissed off. Theresa May was a useless Home Secretary, blunders galore so I don't have much confidence in her ability to lead our country smoothly (if at all) through the process of Brexit. Her comments on Sharia Courts are at best ill-advised and at worse, a huge insult to women.

I see an exodus to UKIP; while the establishment insists on ignoring democracy, the far right will continue to rise across the EU sad

A4Document Mon 11-Jul-16 20:39:18

"I think Theresa May will be quite pliable as to do everything George Osbourne tells her to."

Oh no! shock I hope not! I don't trust him at all.

Peregrina Mon 11-Jul-16 20:44:45

I see an exodus to UKIP; while the establishment insists on ignoring democracy, the far right will continue to rise across the EU

I agree, and Cameron gambled on lancing this boil, failed, and so the inflammation is spread everywhere.

MintJulip Mon 11-Jul-16 21:52:52

Slightly off OP, but I think Junkers wears a fair bit of blame. Hell bent on not allowing a chink of compromise when Cameron went to see them.

^^ He is a terrible man and of course he wears blame.
You may have seen buyers regret Draylon, I have not.

Op I am happy with TM at the moment.

I also believe her when she says Brexit means Brexit. We will know more when we see her Cabinet.

MintJulip Mon 11-Jul-16 21:54:27

In the same way many Brexiteers cannot believe the carnage that has ensued- thus 'Regreteers'

Um no, not at all, Majority of Leavers expected fall out.

A4Document Mon 11-Jul-16 22:02:37

Majority of Leavers expected fall out.

I agree. And we are just as much affected by it as everyone else. But in our opinion, things will be so much better in the long run.

BertrandRussell Mon 11-Jul-16 22:04:31

"But in our opinion, things will be so much better in the long run."

How? Can you give me 3 examples of things you think will be better and when?

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