I Am European And Proud

(32 Posts)
Showmethewaytogohome Sat 25-Jun-16 19:57:30

I was born European and British

It is part of MY identity

I am happy to have been born into Europe and have friends from Romania, Poland, France, Germany, Spain, Italy, Greece, Estonia and Portugal

How is it right that a cross in a box can take away the identity I have had all my life, against my will? Without informed discussion, without solid reasonable arguments, without respect for the people that have lived alongside and with us for decades

Why don't we join together and tell the politicians that have divided us -

I am European

CommanderShepard Sat 25-Jun-16 19:59:16

Me too. I'm English, British and European.

Showmethewaytogohome Sat 25-Jun-16 20:05:02

I have immigrant descents so I am lucky enough to be Irish, Caribbean, British and European

And I am proud of all the parts of my identity - I refuse to have any aspect of it removed against my will

CremeBrulee Sat 25-Jun-16 20:05:02

Same here, my DC have been brought up to be Europeans. DD is at an Anglo European school. We have French and Slovak family gained through our alliances with Europe.

slamdunkthefunk Sat 25-Jun-16 20:10:00

I feel less British and more European now.
I don't feel I have anything in common with 52% of the voters in this country, and especially not with my local area who voted overwhelmingly to Leave.

PartiallyAnaesthetized Sat 25-Jun-16 20:10:51

You do know Europe and the European Union aren't one and the same hmm. Geographically the UK will always be in Europe, same as all the other European countries not in the EU.

Showmethewaytogohome Sat 25-Jun-16 20:11:36

Exactly - I woke this morning and was so sad that a part of ME could be taken away. And the identities of my children

I want to remain European. I want people from Europe to be able to live in this country without fear of discrimination or residency or blame for things that are not their fault

allegretto Sat 25-Jun-16 20:14:24

Me too. I've always felt European and despite its faults, I've always liked being part of the EU. I am British, European and soon to be Italian.

Showmethewaytogohome Sat 25-Jun-16 20:17:02

Partially

I do not believe we just had a referendum to physically move away from a continent - I have to admit I'm not a geologist or a physicist but I think that would be difficult

I am not expecting everyone to have the same views as me - but many do and are proud to be European (or for clarification part of the EU)

PartiallyAnaesthetized Sat 25-Jun-16 20:22:16

All Brits are European by default, being part of a political union is a different thing entirely.

Showmethewaytogohome Sat 25-Jun-16 20:25:08

Partially thank for for your semantics. I am fully aware and therefore aware you do not share my sentiments.

Bon Nuit

Blueberry234 Sat 25-Jun-16 20:25:32

I was born in Britain, have diddly squat blood ties to the EU but am fucking proud to have been part of the EU

Chchchchangeabout Sat 25-Jun-16 20:26:18

Me too

gunting Sat 25-Jun-16 20:39:09

I'm proudly European and genuinely sad that we have cut ties with our allies. I will also proudly tell anyone and everyone I voted REMAIN and I am disgusted that we have turned our backs on the longest time of peace in Europe.

2moreminutes Sat 25-Jun-16 20:46:26

Younger people have been born European. It's all they have known.
They have grown up in a European nanny state, and have never lived in a society where people are encouraged to take responsibility for themselves.
For this reason alone, leaving the EU for the young must be like losing a comfort blanket. It's must be very scary.
Th EU has been like a parent to our children (be it of the Stockholm syndrome variety of parenting)

It's quite disturbing to think that we have had the equivalent of a revolution.
Not so long ago, the young people of any country were ALWAYS at the forefront of change - full of passion.
Yet it has been mainly the older generation who have pushed for change and the younger people have gone for the safe option
I can't get .my head around that.
There's something seriously wrong when the 'older' members of society are the ones pushing for change and testing boundaries .confused

Showmethewaytogohome Sat 25-Jun-16 20:48:23

gunting I agree. And also I have a feeling that I can not UN-become part of the EU within me UN-become European- how does that work?

GraceGrape Sat 25-Jun-16 20:52:21

2more I think its exactly the opposite of what you say. The younger generation have accepted the changed world that has resulted from globalisation while many of the older generation seem to be harking back to a world that no longer exists.

Showmethewaytogohome Sat 25-Jun-16 20:57:55

2More The words you have said could be applied to being British alone or being born in any state. I could replace the EU with UK, Spain, USA etc etc - I can not agree with your sentiments

Being European/part of the EU is an additional wonderful aspect of my identity. I won't get pulled into a generational argument but I will say this. The older generation has had free education, stable jobs, voted into the common market, a great NHS, good pensions, low retirement age, low house prices, single wages that cover living expenses, free movement around Europe - what have our children got in return?

Having their rights and identity stripped away and none of the above - how dare you call them nannied and under Stockholm syndrome. Shame on you for thinking that of our wonderful new generation. They have more pressure on them than any of us ever have

stiffstink Sat 25-Jun-16 20:59:43

I am officially British. I never really had to categorise myself as such prior to the referendum because my parents/GPs are from England, Ireland and another EU country.

I have always referred to myself as Irish during Eurovision and on St Patricks Day and the other EU nationality during the football. The rest of the time I'm just, well, human.

Am I British? This doesn't feel like my Britain and it doesn't feel like a Great Britain. I am going to apply for Irish passports for me and the DCs so that they can hopefully benefit, but it feels like a lie. I suppose it is.

Showmethewaytogohome Sat 25-Jun-16 21:19:54

stiff I understand what you are saying - I too am applying for Irish passports. Partially because I want to remain EUropean and partially because I have never passed the Cricket/Football test - but it never seemed to used to matter

Showmethewaytogohome Sat 25-Jun-16 21:31:03

Oh and 2More

The wonderful new generation identify themselves as EUropean

They are also less racist, less homophobic, less racist than any generation we have ever had. We raised them well - then let them down

JamieVardysParty Sat 25-Jun-16 21:36:30

I am British and European.

I speak French and lived there for one year. I met my DH there.

I am the grandaughter of two immigrants and am an immigrant myself.

I have travelled to numerous European countries and have friends from France, Germany, Spain, Italy, Croatia, Slovenia, Slovakia, Poland and Sweden.

I have also lived outside of Europe and understand that the world is not just made up of 27 countries.

Showmethewaytogohome Sat 25-Jun-16 21:55:25

Jamie I don't understand your point - could you clarify please. I also believe the world isn't made of 27 countries....

I am proud of being EUropean - if that is not within your identity that is fine

JamieVardysParty Sat 25-Jun-16 21:58:03

I love Europe but do not believe that the EU is the be all and end all.

Showmethewaytogohome Sat 25-Jun-16 22:02:16

Jamie

That is your belief - which is your right. However, I am proud to be a EUropean and identify as one- and I don't think anyone has a right to strip away part of my identity. I don't think identity should be changed with a stroke of a pen

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