Can someone explain Project Managers to me please?

(57 Posts)
BellaTheGymnast Sun 25-Nov-12 15:55:35

Want to boost my salary, which I suspect will involve changing career. I've seen Project Manager roles advertised, but don't really know much about what it entails.

Are you one? Are the jobs normally freelance, or PAYE? Is there a recognised training route?

I've got good organisational, time management and communication skills. Currently working in film and telly.

jazzcat28 Sun 25-Nov-12 16:01:29

I'm a PM

Check out the Association of Project Managers (APM) for a good starting point. They also run courses which are recognised in industry

I work as a perm employee for a global consultancy but you can do it as a contractor too. People tend to work project to project so if not a perm staff member you have to plan your next move.

What industry do you want to work in? IT, HR, events, retail and engineering all need PMs

BellaTheGymnast Sun 25-Nov-12 16:16:57

Thanks for the speedy reply! I've always worked in the artsy creative industries, so whichever would be nearest to that. Are most jobs freelance or permanent, would you say?

Can you give me an idea of what your main duties are? I get a buzz from being busy, and I like to tick things off lists, am I going in the right direction, do you reckon?

Am good with numbers but don't think I'd want to work within the IT sector.

PrincessSymbian Sun 25-Nov-12 16:23:12

Busy and and ticking off lists would be good starting points. PM's oversee projects, making sure they run to schedule and ensuring that all the skill/knowledge based people on the project are working to the schedule and doing their bits in the most efficient way possible.
My stbx-h was one on a lot of projects during our marriage and this is what I as an outsider managed to glean.

jazzcat28 Sun 25-Nov-12 16:26:50

Well I did an arts degree and have ended up PM-ing in a non-related industry.

In my job, I need to be able to communicate at a variety of levels (blue chip company execs one minute, admin clerk the next). I have to have a commercial understanding of what is/isn't part of our contract, what the effects are of programme (time) delays to our work. It's a lot of organising yes but also a lot of financial responsibility. I'm responsible for getting the project finished on time, at the best quality, to the budget. This also means protecting my company's profit margins. My week mainly consists of going to client meetings to give them updates on our progress, staff management stuff to get the right people working together and financial reporting.

I think it depends on the industry you get into but I think it's a fair split between permanent employee jobs and freelance.

BellaTheGymnast Sun 25-Nov-12 16:36:10

Thanks, been having a look at the APM website. I'd enjoy something to do with events or buildings.

Sorry to be asking what may be daft questions, but what is the likelihood of getting work, is there a spread of roles across the UK, and are there any prerequisites? Tried to do the initial competency questionnaire on the website but it's only a sample document and not openable on an iPhone.

BellaTheGymnast Sun 25-Nov-12 16:42:44

Sorry, I meant likelihood of getting work once I'd done a qualification, not by just walking straight into it!

BellaTheGymnast Sun 25-Nov-12 16:56:47

And (sorry!) what's a Digital Project Manager?

BellaTheGymnast Mon 26-Nov-12 11:00:38

Ha ha, I'm still going with the questions! What's the difference (except price) in the Prince2 entry level qualification, and the APM entry level course? Is one better regarded than another?

I'm a project and programme manager in health care. I'm PRINCE2 qualified which is useful if not essential. What projects (not necessarily work related have you completed? If you can give us some examples, maybe we can help point you in the right direction.

PM is glorified basic sense but can still be pretty tricky. You need to be able to deliver things on time, to budget and to the agreed standard. If you're applying for jobs, you need to be able to demonstrate a track record of that or look for an entry-level position such as project support or administration. Be realistic about how much you are looking to earn.

TheMysteryCat Mon 26-Nov-12 13:00:54

Arts project manager jobs are few and far between now. Register with www.artsjobs.org.uk for a daily jobs feed.

You'll need your own public liability insurance which can be pricey.

Related jobs would be consultant, but you'll need a strong portfolio of Paye or freelance jobs, ditto for an evaluator, fundraiser or marketer.

The cuts to local government and arts council have majorly disrupted this industry, especially now the Olympics has been and gone.

Corporate event management might be a route to follow, if you have experience and qualifications.

It's a great job, but tough to break into without contacts and substantial experience.

BellaTheGymnast Mon 26-Nov-12 13:25:12

Thanks. Don't want to out myself totally, but my freelance job at the moment involves elements of staffing, budget management and contracts in film and telly. Essentially I have to deliver X by a deadline, without going over budget.
I have a degree, but no PM qualifications.
Thanks for the website tip, yes, the arts situation is grim.

TheMysteryCat Mon 26-Nov-12 13:30:48

It's a strongly related sector, so I'd say go for it if you see a job advertised.

Have you looked at post production houses? Lots going in London. There's also www.mandy.com for film and tv.

Younger also be well placed for digital and game companies- Bristol and Portsmouth for those.

TheMysteryCat Mon 26-Nov-12 13:31:12

You, not younger!

BellaTheGymnast Mon 26-Nov-12 13:39:54

Related to film and tv, do you mean? Don't want to be in London, but Bristol, now you're talking!
Would you recommend doing a qualification before looking for a job? There seem to be endless levels, each more expensive than the last!

BellaTheGymnast Mon 26-Nov-12 13:41:01

I should point out my tv/film job isn't as a production manager or production supervisor.

TheMysteryCat Mon 26-Nov-12 13:44:20

I'd study the job Reqs and see if there's a common qualification you could get. Hard to tell what you might need exactly. Sorry!

But, yes, Bristol is thriving arts, culture, media and only an hour on train into London.

jazzcat28 Mon 26-Nov-12 13:55:53

Hi OP sorry didn't get a chance to respond again yesterday.. hopefully I can answer your queries as below:

what is the likelihood of getting work, is there a spread of roles across the UK, and are there any prerequisites?

There are lots of PM jobs (advertised and not) around, at various levels and in a wide range of industries. Once you've narrowed down your industry I would approach a number of specialist recruitment agencies as well as prospectively submitting your CV to some key firms in your field on the off chance they are looking. In my company we very rarely advertise vacancies on our webiste, usually recruit from employee referrals, linked-in and CVs submitted to us by people interested in working for us. In terms of pre-requisites, you will need to demonstrate you understand the project life cycle phases (see APM site) and show how you have experience in these. Depending on the level you are applying for you may also need real experience in that sector.

What's the difference (except price) in the Prince2 entry level qualification, and the APM entry level course? Is one better regarded than another?

I had to answer an exam question on this! The short answer is that neither is better than the other. Again it very much depends on the sector you are going to work in. For IT and public sector work (govt, health care, rail etc), Prince2 is the preferred accreditation. For blue chip company work they are less fussy, but like APM as a minimum. I couldn't say for arts/events management.

Would you recommend doing a qualification before looking for a job?

Tricky one. Because the qualification requirements are so specific to job role/industry I would research very carefully before signing up to anything. You don't want to do an Masters in PM for Construction (like I'm doing) to work in retail!

My top tip is to be quite open minded about the industries you might consider working in. I am an arts person, but work in engineering. I know lots of linguists working in finance, etc. Don't feel that you have to stick to the arts sector (which is notoriously tricky to find jobs in). Be as open minded as you can and be willing to embark on a steep learning curve and most employers will be happy to support you. I entered the engineering world with an arts degree and minimal experience and now have a relatively senior position, with a company sponsorship to do a job-related Masters university course and a looming promotion. When I left my arts degree I took the view 'I need a job, any job, to pay the bills and if I like it I'll forge a career from it'. If I'd have stuck to waiting for an arts position I have a feeling I'd have been working in Asda for a lot longer until the 'right' position came along.

jazzcat28 Mon 26-Nov-12 13:56:47

Sorry for any typos, typed this very quickly whilst grabbing my 10 min lunch break!!

Mosman Mon 26-Nov-12 13:59:14

PM's are the first person to be fired on a project whether it has anything to do with them or not grin
Prince 2 is very well thought of and google agile, they are both seen as being the current quals required.
It's a very stressful job IMO

basildonbond Mon 26-Nov-12 14:02:41

dh is one (in broadcasting)

he didn't do a qualification beforehand but is just about to finish a masters in PM now which he's hoping will broaden his appeal as there's not a lot of work about at the moment in the UK in telly (he is working abroad)

BellaTheGymnast Mon 26-Nov-12 14:05:57

Thanks again! Been scouring job adverts, and Prince2 seems to come up a lot. I've found the ads quite bewildering to be honest, there seems to be a lot of jargon that I can't penetrate!

I suppose I'm a bit scared of moving out of the arts, it's good to know it's worked for you though jazzcat. I suppose I feel at home amongst arty sort of people and worry that I won't fit in to a very corporate environment.

Ooh Mosman, stressful and easily fired?! <faints> I'm looking for something with more money and more reliability than my current job!

peasepudding Mon 26-Nov-12 14:13:27

I've just seen that there is a prince 2 course on groupon today. Can't link I'm afraid OP

Are all prince 2 courses the same? does anyone know if it would be worth doing?

It's 60% off and £199 at greenwich community college

peasepudding Mon 26-Nov-12 14:13:53

Sorry, you can do it online and then take the exam at locations throughout britain

BellaTheGymnast Mon 26-Nov-12 14:16:09

Ooh! I'm on Groupon, will check my inbox. Thanks!

DewDr0p Mon 26-Nov-12 14:19:53

I was a project manager before I retired to have babies grin

Key elements of my role included:
- stakeholder management
- planning the project; resourcing it/pulling together the team
- risk and issue management
- progress reporting; managing the actual work; correcting any slippage
- controlling scope of the project appropriately - delivering on time and on budget
- defining the business benefits of the project and monitoring them throughout to ensure they were being delivered
- managing the team; setting objectives and appraising staff
- billing clients; monitoring our own internal budgets/profitability

I don't have a qualification in PM but I worked for one of the Big 6 consultancies (I never heard Prince2 mentioned but then we had our own methods etc, all v similar I am sure)

YouOldSlag Mon 26-Nov-12 14:21:37

Definitely try and get PRINCE 2, My Dh did it and it only took him a week. It's really worth doing.

DameEnidsOrange Mon 26-Nov-12 14:25:21

I did Project Management in finance for a few years.

Like a PP has said it is basic common sense - find out what needs to be done; find out how what and how much you will need; establish the benefit to the business; work out how long it will take, who will need to do what and when and tie it all together. Identify risks and issues and manage them. Get the job done and have a big piss up afterwards. Identify what went well / what didn't and particularly in my organisation, find a scapegoat to take the blame for everything that went wrong

OoohTrifle Mon 26-Nov-12 14:25:50

PM-ing involves A LOT of planning, sighing, conflict resolution and banging your head against your keyboard. Well, it does in healthcare. That said, when it works you are the best - till your boss wants you to work with even more 'challenging' people and you start crying all over again.

BellaTheGymnast Mon 26-Nov-12 14:31:07

There's sighing, crying and scapegoating in my current job, so I'm OK with that. grin

I don't feel I could apply for any of the jobs I've seen today, some of the ads i just don't understand and I'm not confident a recruitment agency will look at my CV and be able to see beyond working in the meeja.

TheOnlyPersonInTheRoom Mon 26-Nov-12 14:37:05

I'm 'sort of' a PM... I work for a PM organisation but rather than deliver to external customers like the rest of the company I deliver internal projects (continuous improvement type stuff). I'm trying to get into 'official' project management and I see this as a route in as I get experience without the pressure of losing millions of pounds. My company paid for me to get APM qualified and I do every internal course I can get on (risk management, negotiation, finance stuff, EPM / SAP etc).

My company does take on some contractor PMs especially at the moment as they have shed permanent staff and are trying to remain flexible and responsive.

environmentjob.co.uk often have PM jobs advertised - some voluntary - which may be a good way of getting experience for a permanent role.

queenbeat Mon 26-Nov-12 19:48:07

I'm an IT Project Manager. I've worked my way up from software development, through the business analysis route. I often say it's the best and worst job in the world because there are such highs and lows.

DewDr0p's post has my role pretty much summed up, however there is also a lot of technical understanding that's required in my role too. I'm not sure how much of the "widget making" work a normal (non-IT) PM would be expected to know about, but in IT you do need an understanding of how the systems that are being built works. I've worked alongside PMs that came at the role from another angle and it's generally been a miserable failure (such as they'd been with the company a few years so knew the department or users well, and suddenly management decided they could lead a project to time, cost, and quality tolerances shock).

You wouldn't get hired in my team (a Programme Managed Office, private sector) without formal training. In my case, that's a degree, 4 years in IT, 2 years in the PMO function (as a business analyst), then a masters, then PRINCE2 (to the higher level, Practitioner). There is one guy who works here that doesn't have a degree, but he does have PRINCE2.

However, DON'T let any of that put you off - it's been a slog to get here, but it's fantastic in terms of benefits like salary, working conditions, and very flexible. I've worked for my current employer (permanent basis) for 6 months, but if I wanted to I could go back to freelance, there are lots of opportunities for good PMs if you tick all the recruitment boxes and can get access to employers in your sector.

I couldn't, for example, move oop north and get a similar role, because I'm too tied to large IT positions - I can only really do my job in about 4 or 5 cities in the UK. So there's that downside, too, I suppose.

Soopermum1 Mon 26-Nov-12 22:29:02

I'm a PM. Have done freelance and permanent.

For the jargon, I'd recommend Prince 2 or APMP. I've learned it on the job but know it can be intimidating. I try not to use it too much as it just baffles non PMs.

Many employers will look for relevant experience. Prince 2 does pop up on job specs so I suspect it's one of the 'most haves' to get their attention, but I've heard lots of comments from recruitment companies that companies want PMs with the relevant experience rather than the 'hire a PM' model, where you get someone who is all technique and training but no knowledge of the work, industry or environment they're expected to operate in.

Lots of people think they know what a PM role is (watch the Apprentice too much) so the role can be a bit undefined especially if hired by a non PM. Part of the job is defining your's and others roles and exerting your authority (nicely) from the beginning.

Get your hands on some good working templates, they will guide you through what you need to do, to a certain extent.

Is there a PM at your company you can talk to?

If you do a course, make sure you have a 'Project' lined up to do straight afterwards, it could be planning a holiday or something. Like all courses, you need to put the learning into action straight away. Ditto, MS project.

From what I can see, IT PM is rather 'dry', but social media, gaming, advertising etc could be a good match.

BellaTheGymnast Tue 27-Nov-12 10:29:53

Thanks again everyone, MN is ace!

Yes, queenbeat, you've confirmed my suspicions that I'd be out of my depth in an IT environment. I've found a bargain last minute Prince 2 course near me, but money is really tight at the moment so I'm dithering over committing.

Soopermum, interesting what you say about the 'ready made' PM with no knowledge of the industry they're about to work in. I'm afraid I only know about TV and film (and bits about houses from watching too much Grand Designs doing stuff on our place). The adverts for PM jobs near me seem to be things like water treatment plants, IT and finance.

There's no PM at my company, I'm a freelancer myself.

For those of you who are freelance, do you get enough work to keep the wolf from the door, and when you were beginning did you get a contract post, or start as a freelancer? I don't mind being freelance if the money is enough to tide me over in the gaps, the problem with my current business is that there isn't enough work where I live for the money that I can charge.

How about this as a job?

www.ideasfestival.co.uk/?p=5368

BellaTheGymnast Tue 27-Nov-12 12:28:02

Ooh! That looks terrifying, but also something I should definitely apply for! Thanks so much.

BellaTheGymnast Fri 30-Nov-12 14:45:41

Quick question, how much use is the PRINCE2 Foundation on its own, rather than with Practitioner? Funds are tight!

DolomitesDonkey Sat 01-Dec-12 16:41:01

I'm a PMP accredited by the PMI which is the "gold" industry standard (imo higher than prince2 which seems to be aimed at public sector).

I'm a technical PM which means I'm a software expert at heart and need a really solid understanding when I'm dealing with eg, tech architects - in fact just this week we've had to get a non-techy PM shown the door.

It's as someone else said; lists, prioritisation, organisation, process and common sense.

I love talking to techies in their language and being able to talk to non-techie stakeholders in their's.

The low point for me is the continuous Chase, Chase, Chase for each and every aspect of work. sad I just don't get the mindset of not jfdi!

JingleBellaTheGymnast Sat 01-Dec-12 19:43:43

Thanks Dolomites. I'm doing the foundation level PRINCE2, it's really hard to know which course to do when you don't quite know which is best for your industry. I'm definitely NOT aiming for IT!

Do all the PM courses use the same jargon, or are is it specific? Wondering whether I'm now committed to finishing via PRINCE2.

JingleBellaTheGymnast Sat 01-Dec-12 19:44:20

jfdi?

BelaLug0si Sun 02-Dec-12 00:48:05

Just f--king do it I'm guessing grin

DolomitesDonkey Sun 02-Dec-12 09:40:32

Correct bela.

A PM has more acronyms than a doctor!

I was thinking a bit more about this, with regards to what you need to know - a certificate isn't even half the story.

Imo the most important tool you need to master is ms project, this is not an exam topic but it's something you need!

Secondly you really need to understand your finances, senior mgt always want your variances.

JingleBellaTheGymnast Sun 02-Dec-12 10:06:54

Yes Dolomites, this is what I was assuming, that I can't do a course for a few days and then just walk into a job in an industry I know nothing about. My hope is that if I'm applying for work in a similar field (gaming, arts projects etc as up thread) then at least an industry recognised qualification might help my CV in a rather niche field look a bit more applicable. Hope that makes sense.

I have a good head for figures, there is budgeting in my current job, so I'm not intimidated by learning more complex maths.

Will have a look at MS Project, hmm, wonder if there's a free download for Mac anywhere...

DolomitesDonkey Sun 02-Dec-12 10:16:42

The basis of a good schedule is in a Gantt Chart - oh the days when we had to create those by hand - and when I say days, I mean horrors! I don't know if there will be an MS specific Mac version, but there should be something which mimics what Project does.

If you're familiar with budgeting then that's a good start!

A lot of it is PR, you have all the tools in the world and all the processes but if you can't get people to do what you want then it's really hard. You need to be able to get people to do stuff for you - and a huge number of them won't give a shit and won't do it. So you need to pick up the phone (repeatedly), stand over their desks whilst they actually type. This is not a job for the thin-skinned and it was a really hard lesson for me. I've really had to toughen up and learn that it's only business.

In all business there's a lot of "passing the buck", imo it's the PM's job to actually get to the root of the issue, propose a solution, assign the appropriate resources and get it fixed. It's a massive juggling act trying to keep all stakeholders happy.

You need a good PMO team. smile

BelaLug0si Sun 02-Dec-12 10:33:41

Dolomites I've fallen into some project management this year (in addition to my usual role) and did my first Gantt chart. On an excel sheet as the NHS doesn't stretch to MS project for non official project managers.
It's been a challenge and really enjoyable so this thread has been helpful advice in what I'd need to do to take it further.
jfdi has been my motto all year! grin

mrsnec Sun 02-Dec-12 10:36:25

Do PMs still use Project? I'm a bit out of touch but some time ago I was considering this. As a (very) basic introduction I did a New Horizons day course and it was very interesting. In that particular company I worked in Marketing Admin but when they took on a PM there was a lot of overlap between the two deps. The project was the company entering into the european market and working out if it was better to export or manufacure under liscence. It was very interesting. The company made semi-bespoke fitted furniture so the PM was working out export costs and production costs vs product range. I was just thinking that this might be another industry worth considering.

DolomitesDonkey Sun 02-Dec-12 10:46:11

mrsnec the fundamental basis of a project is a schedule (a time plan) so you need to be able to track this and link to the dependencies between this.

Being able to do it electronically is imo, unless you have a plethora of lovely on-site assistants, is the only way. E.g., something I'm working on right now I have ~4000 tasks in my schedule. Some of these tasks are dependent upon others, then there are lead times - something can only be done 5 days after x. Now say your first task is delayed, fine, you get that - but it's a big manual task to remember that there were 5 subsequent tasks dependent upon that and their own subsequent dependencies - Phew! An easier example is Xmas, a task that takes 10 working days which is due to be started on 21st December will not be finished first week of Jan if the building is shut.

DolomitesDonkey Sun 02-Dec-12 10:49:22

mrsnec as to whether you should do it, if you want to - go for it but be aware it's a largely unthanked job! All the stakeholders will assume your raison d'etre is to ruin them and your resources will think you're a paper-pushing Dick.

That aside, I love it because I'm a natural organisers who jfdi and I love telling other people what to do! ;)

JingleBellaTheGymnast Sun 02-Dec-12 10:57:46

PMO team? Dolomites, be gentle with me, I'm only a third of the way through my PRINCE2 prep booklet! Already I feel like what the cast of ER must feel like trying to learn their scripts, it's page after page of words in my own language that make very little sense!

Do you think your experience of everyone hating you difficult staff is true across all industries?

mrsnec Sun 02-Dec-12 11:47:05

Well that first experience I had, the project didn't get off the ground. They didn't take on any extra staff just me as admin support to PM and I spent my life chasing up people who invariably lied to me about where they were with their tasks. I changed jobs and the company got taken over. I used project to plan my wedding but not used it again! I've since been helping DH with his business and we've recently taken on a project for a client. I'm enjoying it immensely. I didn't enjoy the thankless task side of it and the constantly chasing people but now I'ts just us, the client and a few contractors it's great. I think a lot of it is about resources too. I'm a creative person but I think it's the problem solving aspect that is the reward for me. I also know a PM who works for a well known charity so that might be another route for OP. Am watching this thread with interest.

JingleBellaTheGymnast Sun 02-Dec-12 11:52:05

Hello mrsnec, join me on the quest! I love problem solving too, and I think a smaller group like you're working with sounds like a less fraught way to get experience rather than with a massive company.

Yes, have been looking at charities too.

DolomitesDonkey Sun 02-Dec-12 12:10:05

jingle well I only have experience of the IT industry and wanted to reassure you that different businesses would treat you better - but unfortunately mrsnec has confirmed that they're lying mustards everywhere! ;)

PMO = project management office, the programme manager's deputies!

JingleBellaTheGymnast Sun 02-Dec-12 12:29:24

Thanks. Yes, it would appear swines are everywhere!

Haven't got to PMO in my booklet yet.
<re-reads nervously>

mrsnec Sun 02-Dec-12 12:49:33

I think the term is very broad. That PM I worked for was in a very difficult position. He knew nothing about the company or industry and he was working with a lot of people who'd been there for years who were overlooked for the position. He'd also just been given the brief can we flog this stuff in Europe? It was never going to end well. I'm not in the UK at the moment. There aren't many jobs here let alone PM ones. I'm just considering some kind of qualification, if we can afford it, that would help the business and give me another avenue if we returned to the UK. This thread inspired me a bit! It's just a test case we're working on at the moment but I'd like us to be professional about it and not come across as those muppets you see on Grand Designs. Yes, this time it's that kind of project management! On another note OP, I was surprised at how well paid my friend's charity PM job was. Almost stopped me wanting to donate anymore!

Soopermum1 Sun 02-Dec-12 16:12:06

Mrsnec and Dolomites brought up good points.

Re Mrsnec's DH's brief (which sounds a nightmare) , part of the job is to keep going back to the project sponsor/s to get enough info to work with and also part of the project is to see if the project is actually going to be able to fly in the first place. Both very very tricky as you make a pain in the ass of yourself to the people who possibly hired you, and you could potentially have to deliver bad news or even do yourself out of a job, but better doing that than flogging a dead horse. That's where whatever natural charm you have comes into play. Being 'likeable' is key, also making yourself appear trustworthy so if you deliver bad news, backed up with clear facts you're more likely to be beleived, but I have seen lots of PMs in the firing line for things that are just not their fault, but that is definitely one of the downsides of the job.

Re jfdi, I have used the phrase (ithout the f) very very occassionally, when I'm exasperated, but probably not wise, though the thought goes round and round in my head dozens of times a day. It's to do with matrix management (useful phrase for job interviews) you have no direct authority over these people, they usually have their own bosses, so you have to dig into your mental toolbag and work out what you can do to make these people do what you want. Different approaches work with diferent people. My personal style is 'pleasantly persistant', it seems to work on most occassions. I did hear someone describe me as a Rottweiller, but as he's pretty co-operative and we seem to get on, I took it as a compliment grin

oh, and one last tip, if you stroll over to someone's desk and they have a picture of their kid on there, compliment them on that. Talks about kids, in my experience, softens the hardest hearts, before you launch into the work stuff. Same applies to any other interests you may know they have.

mrsnec Mon 03-Dec-12 07:19:19

That's great advice. On that project we didn't have much info and the PM wouldn't go back to the stakeholders. Everyone was reluctant to do anything outside their remit as there was a lot of negativity and uncertainty. I was also involved in an IT project and this was an entirely different story as most people knew what they were doing and just got on with it and we could convince the others anyway as ultimately what we were doing was going to make their life easier. This time, as we're mainly dealing with Sole Traders they know if they don't meet deadlines we'll find someone else or they wont be paid. OP I think it could be a very interesting career change for you and wish you all the best. Let us know how you get on.

Pendeen Wed 05-Dec-12 19:46:51

There are no PM qualifications as such, merely certificates because PM isn't a profession but a wide ranging discipline.

PRINCE is simply one method of managing projects, the public sector seems to prefer it but there are several others.

You mentioned buildings, if I were you I would steer clear of trying to become a PM in the building industry unles you know a lot about it. Some of the best PMs in my experience have been quantity surveyors.

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