22 years in NHS over!

(62 Posts)
seaofyou Wed 29-Aug-12 00:46:31

Ok 17 years because of 5 years career break!

I had to take a break to do behavioural therapy on my severly autistic boy to help him talk, reduce challenging behaviours, learn to do everything basically. He has been in a small school now a year with 1:1 etc and I felt ready to return!

I wanted to return to my same hours 22.5 over 3 days, but have all school holidays off (so pay would equal out 16 hours a week).
I asked to work last 3 days so I could do MSc (self funded Mon-Tues) Behaviour Therapy at Uni to ensure I was able to do the psychologist job correctly with qualification as therapy not supplied by LEA anymore even though ds will always have Autism.

Manager said no to working school term time only (even though I would do full day 7.5hrs a day x 3 days a week same as pre career break). Manager said no to those days Wed-Fri (as wanted Mon-Tues off for uni). That I would have to work other days...he didn't even say the reasons why or what other days I would have to work?

I started at 18 years old, so never ever done anything else workwise and a Sister in Community, I loved my job! I am truely devestatedsad
I am a lone parent with no family to help and the cost of SNs childcare is more than I earn! Plus ds holidays are longer so out of school club holiday club times and I know ds would not cope at anyhow.

Any advice please?

StillSquiffy Wed 29-Aug-12 06:11:32

It is horrible when you find work life and home life clashing, and I sympathise.

That said, this board is all about employment issues, not passing round cups of tea, so let's address the employment issue itself.

In what way will your flexible suggestion affect the team where you work and the role you do? Does your area work shift work? Are team members expected to work at weekends? Is the demand for your team as great in the holidays as in term time? In effect you need to ask yourself If you were the boss, how exactly would you make this work without it significantly disadvantaging others in the team? You need to get your head around that. If you can find an answer to that then you have a way forward.

Assuming you can identify an ability to work these hours without compromising the work output, without disadvantaging others and without leaving the boss stuffed in the holidays, then you have some legal grounds to work with. You need to set out your proposal in writing with all the reasons on how it will work and send that back to Boss, asking for his reasons in writing as to why he will not accept it. Then you need to appeal and escalate things. You do have legal strength behind you, but only if you can knock back any claims that your proposals is detrimental to the business.

3littlefrogs Wed 29-Aug-12 06:39:37

I think your only option is to look for jobs that are officially term time only, and I guess that would mean a job in a school or college.

I had to make a complete career change after having children. I think an awful lot of people do if they don't have family or partner to provide child care.

I had a very senior role in the NHS, but found that when I wanted to go back part time (as I couldn't do the compulsory night duty, weekends, bank holidays) I would have to go back to first year staff nurse pay. Less than the cost of child care.

It was cheaper to retrain for a different role.

I hope you manage to find a solution.

nooka Wed 29-Aug-12 06:57:28

Might school nursing be a possibility for you? Posts tend to be term time only, although I don't know whether part time is also a possibility and long days might well not work.

The NHS is generally great for flexible working but the systems are set so that when you make a request you have to be clear as to how your proposals are in the interests of the department/team and will not compromise patient care.

It may be that from your manager's perspective term time working on the three days that suit you appears just too difficult, and in your request you may have focused on your needs (not surprising in your circumstances) and not set out how your suggestion would work in practice given the needs of your client group and the working arrangements of your team.

If you haven't already do get hold of the flexible working policy for your trust, see if HR can help you to set out your request as StillSquiffy suggests. If you can show that your suggestions could work then your manager may reappraise their decision.

iliketea Wed 29-Aug-12 07:36:57

Like others have said, you need to address how the impact of working those hours has on the service that you and your colleagues provide.

You say you are a Sister in the community. So if yoi want to work term time only - what happens to your workload in the holidays? Who manages your team while you are not during school holidays? What happens about weekends / bank holidays. Also you could see if there is a precedent that someone has a similar contract to the one you want. IME many NHS departments are reluctant to allow people back to work on such flexible terms because it is then more difficult to refuse other requests and becomes increasingly more difficult to meet the needs of a service and patient population.

ssd Wed 29-Aug-12 07:48:33

sympathies from me

I had almost the same thing happen, senior position in the company, had kids, worked a few more years, then circumstances changed and I couldn't do the all year working thing. I asked for term time, had an argument which was totally in the companies favour, I'd take the hit financially and career wise. BUT during the interview the two women interviewing me actually laughed and said "so you want all summer off" and I re-iterated why....they just thought I fancied having a lot more holidays. One of them said "but I have a dd and work school holidays" and I said who looks after her and she said "my mum" as if we all have that....they couldn't understand why I was asking, just obviously thought I was at it angry

so I had to leave, became a childminder and have worked various minimum wage jobs since, that are term time only

I'd have been much better used int eh job I'd been doing 20 odd years previous, but the managers were too narrow minded to see it

good luck op, hope you don't experience the same thing

seaofyou Wed 29-Aug-12 11:08:25

Thank you all for your replies. I am not alone thensad

I never worked weekends or BHs anyway and I would have maintained same hours and 3 days as I had arranged afterschool 1:1 for ds. It was the working 'school term' time they could not accomadate.

Staring MSc next month anyway but worried as 3 yrs of student debt to come and don't even know if I will be able to get work as behavioural therapist self employed when I finish!

There is no European thing on family friendly hours?

Salbertina Wed 29-Aug-12 11:28:33

No that was for doctors...

Sympathise but tricky times ESP in NHS and such flexible working getting v unusual. When I was in it, the most I and other working mums got was working occasional day at home, working condensed hours and understanding that I cd always take some annual leave in sch hols. Rest of time, boxed and coxed - hol play schemes, child minder and friends.
Cdnt u do agency nursing to fund u thro yr studies? Rethink about how u cd stay in existing role??? As for the course, I suggest researching current/predicted number of vacancies. If its a dead-end I wouldnt waste my time & money on it, sorry to be blunt!

Salbertina Wed 29-Aug-12 11:34:38

You know, rereading yr post and how you love yr job, pls find a way to stay! There aren't many who can say that! The pension's good etc

Understand that yr manager will be under HUGE pressure to meet service user needs i.e.being able to access the service you provide when they need it (not simply when staff are available). Services which don't are increasingly judged unviable and therefore in danger of cutbacks.

Yr course can wait- there may be a better time to do it in future or you cd look at doing something by distance/online etc

seaofyou Wed 29-Aug-12 17:30:44

Thank Salbertina for letting me know about the European rule.

Things have just completely broken down today afterschool side anyway as the arranged afterschool club so I could work till 4.30pm is not now accessible because transport to/from school used to pick my ds up at 5pm, now another child on same route I find out today so ds has to finish school normal time to come home and I will still be in work.....I needed to work till 4.30pm to get the 16 hours pay re tax credits. Their are other working mum's in same post/position as me working term time only in different teams under same management. I just thought I would have the same opportunity as exactly same job.

ssd Wed 29-Aug-12 23:02:21

surely then you must be given the same as the other mums regards term time?

would a refusal not constitute discrimination?

I'd contact CAB before giving up on this one, or are you in a union?

mellen Wed 29-Aug-12 23:12:11

if you are asking about the european working time directive, that wasn't just for doctors, but was about not working more than 48 hours a week, so wouldnt help you here.

Salbertina Thu 30-Aug-12 16:09:19

Sorry, my mistake, what I meant, I guess was that it's mainly been applied to docs in the nhs hence hospitals at night and other programmes to manage it.
I guess you cd try taking it up w yr union? But tbh, sounds like the others are survivors of a former, kinder more family friendly regime which sadly may no longer be affordable.

seaofyou Thu 30-Aug-12 16:48:41

Yes Salbert and ssd I contacted my union. They told me to contact human resourse and explain everything ie manager not getting back to me etc...which I did.

HR manager said I should have been given work/life application form to fill in when I asked manager for 'term time' only?

HR manager just asked me was there other mothers getting 'term time' only at my team and I said yes, which she replied maybe all his recourses are tied because he can only have so many of them! Ahhhh! I only said that in hope she would say 'yes then they have to give it to you too' as you say sdd I was thinking of discrimination doh!
I don't even know as not worked their for 5 yrs! Also I think those mum's worked to 3pm...I can work to the 4.30pm! Just not school holidays.

HR MAnager asked my band then said a directive has just been set up and their are (my)bands being advertised we could slot you into a part time postion their! So that sounds promising! She said we need a meeting with her and my manager and I said I would bring union.

So awaiting application form for work/life balance which I should have been given in June!

Ds can still go to afterschool club thankfully I would have to pick him up so means he would be there longer in school as waiting for me to finish.

Looks like they wont accom the days off for degree though? After all I am only 3 days why can't I just have those 2 for uni? I was set days before also!

Any other advice greatly welcome! Thanks for European rule Mellen! No does not apply to me! But if there is anything that can help my case please please post.

ValiumQueen Thu 30-Aug-12 16:56:24

Surely tax credits could help with childcare especially as he has special needs.

Salbertina Thu 30-Aug-12 17:18:05

Well it sounds promising. Could it be as simple as a team meeting to discus how workload can fairly be shared amongst you all? Might make u rather unpopular though ESP after 5 years..
If sounds like there might be a compromise fir both sides? You more or less get yr hours but not / days study, well probably something's got to give. They do sound restively supportive, their priority is running the service.

3littlefrogs Thu 30-Aug-12 18:08:03

I appreciate how you feel, but how can you run a community nursing service if everyone only wants to work term time?

I would think it would be hard to find staff to cover school holidays.

I find it an absolute nightmare to cover school holidays as it is, and all our staff are part timers who work all year round. I only took one week off this summer because the patients still need looking after, and everyone wants to take their holidays during the school holidays.

seaofyou Thu 30-Aug-12 18:49:20

3little I understand your [anger] about me needing term time I am sorry...their is nothing for children with Disabilities in my county! A private 1:1 if I could get one are advertised as earning a lot more than I earn...plus ds only in school 36 weeks not 39 due to not being in a mainstream school as can't attend one because of his disabilities....I never had a summer holiday or Christmas day off work to ensure my fellow working mums who had children were able to have time off for 12 years I worked on the wards pre children. I did not mind! Just need some of that kindness back now as in desperate need being single mum no family and autistic child who has no 'summer school' options like NT children do!

seaofyou Thu 30-Aug-12 19:25:34

Salbert the HR manager was more helpful tbh which I was shocked as all the extra hours unpaid breaks etc I did for my manager seems to have been forgotten and no room here type of response, never even asked how my ds was as worked together for 4 yrs before career break! Ah well know now not to give up an unpaid lunch break year in year out if I get my job back!

iliketea Thu 30-Aug-12 20:35:59

I think (understandably) you are focussing on your own and your sons needs. However, comparing to what everyone else does / has available is not helpful because none of us really know what is going on in everyone else's lives. A manager has to manage a service and if everyone wanted term time only, it would be nearly impossible.

Can you compromise on the days for the moment, then once you have worked for a bit, make a business case / show the benefits of you doing academic study alongside working?

Playing devils advocate, if I was your manager and you'd said how difficult things are wrt childcare, I would.be wondering how you could manage to work, study and sort childcare all at the same time.

seaofyou Fri 31-Aug-12 01:24:41

iliketea I would spend the wee hours reading just like I do nowsmile

Salbertina Fri 31-Aug-12 09:29:13

Feel for u sea, you have a lot on your plate, didn't realize u had dc w SN.. That may add to your case, ask union.
However, employers in my experience don't tend to be grateful or pay back for unpaid overtime, especially even the NHS! They just want yr time/work, as much as possible of both for the role as if stands now. Such is life, I guess. Hard times now much more so than 5 yrs ago..
I'd say if u have a fairly flexible job you love, do everything to keep it!

Many of us have no job/have an unsatisfying one or work all hours

ssd Fri 31-Aug-12 09:49:36

yes, do everything you can!

with regards to my post further up, the job I left was a job I loved and since leaving I've hated every job I've had - not a nice situation but one I couldn't do much about..

3littlefrogs Fri 31-Aug-12 13:02:58

seaofyou, I am not angry. Just trying to explain the bigger picture.

I appreciate that you need term time work, as do many, many other people who have challenging caring responsibilities.

I just think that not all employers can provide exactly what their employees want and still provide a service. Especially if they are trying to provide a year round service to vulnerable/sick people in the community.

3littlefrogs Fri 31-Aug-12 13:04:39

Also, never make the mistake of thinking that years of dedicated service and unpaid overtime are appreciated by anybody, especially if you work in the NHS.

seaofyou Fri 31-Aug-12 17:47:11

thanks ssd and Salbertina I am so so sorry you have been through this too it's so painful...thought taking the career break was so bad but this is hurting so bad!

I am devestated tbh, been in terrible state today and head shot as feel so upset that I can't return.

3littlefrogs you are right and I should know more than anyone, thank you. I am trying to fight for a job that isn't practical to my clients, team members etc

Going to sign off for a few days and go away as need space away from it to digest this awful situation and get my head round my career is over. Thank you all for your replies.

ssd Fri 31-Aug-12 18:06:08

no worries

sorry you are in the same boat, its just shit

and it cant be unusual, there must be thousands of experienced, clever and able mums out there working minimum wage/term time jobs they thought was beneath them pre kids sad

Salbertina Fri 31-Aug-12 20:52:30

Sea, pls don't chuck it all away! Your career is NOT over! Good idea to take a couple of days to think but fight for it, it's worth it! Jobs you love with this flexibility (altho not perfect) are like gold-dust!

3littlefrogs Sat 01-Sep-12 09:14:06

ssd you are absolutely right.

There are also lots of clever, talented women who are full time carers for years and years, having given up their careers because there is so little support out there.

Ditto all the clever, talented women who are forced out of their careers because they are unlucky enough to be chronically ill.

Life isn't fair.

Also - I think that the days of having one career for life are long gone. Most of us end up retraining, doing different jobs, whatever we can to earn money and cope with family/caring responsibilities.

theoriginalandbestrookie Sat 01-Sep-12 09:18:38

Would it be possible to pay for 121 care for your boy over the school holidays?

Yes probably very expensive for your particular circumstances as you can't have an au pair, but maybe a trainee teacher or even a teacher may want to do it for 3 days a week.

They are being inflexible now, but it may be that once you have gone back and they can see what you can do then they may be a bit more accommodating so it could only be for a short period of time.

ValiumQueen Sun 02-Sep-12 08:19:41

I keep coming back to this thread, wanting to post, but also not wanting to offend.

I also have over 20 years continuous service with the NHS, and have had to make decisions that have been good for my family, but not good for my career progression, for example I left a sisters post down south to move to Scotland where my husband was working. In order to work in my chosen speciality, I took a post at band 5, but was promoted again very quickly. Unfortunately due to service redesign, I was not allowed to reapply for the band 6 post, so am now a band 5 again. I am currently on Mat leave with DC3, and hope to return part time.

I asked my boss whether term time only work would be an option, and he said that never happens with frontline staff, due to managing a caseload etc. ( I am community based). I completely understand that. I have yet to have the discussion about hours, but I am hoping to work 5 days a week, but be able to collect my eldest from school at 3. I am currently working on a proposal to evidence that I will actually be better value than my colleagues working until 5pm.

I have a couple of questions - where do you stand contractually? Did you resign, or take a 5 year break, but with a contract to support that? Also, I am assuming you maintained your registration, but I am curious as to how you achieved that.
I am assuming you are a nurse, but hoping to retrain via the Masters to be a behavioural therapist?

My personal opinion is that you are asking a huge amount of your manager, to the extent of being positively cheeky. You want to be working the equivalent of 16 hours a week so you can retrain and leave? You are demanding working specific hours on specific days, with no thought to your team, patients or manager.

I appreciate the challenges you have being a single parent to a child with special needs, but are wanting to do an extremely hard course alongside working, which I do not personally understand, and actually think is rather selfish. There will be tax credit help for childcare, plus other benefits available surely, if you are willing to work the minimum hours required, which I believe will (hopefully) change when the Universal tax system comes into force.

I think you are extremely lucky to be able to return to your previous role and your previous grade, and working part time you will probably be earning pretty much what I do full time. You chose to have a child, but seem to feel that this should not affect your career at all. I am guessing that if you were willing to work say 25 hours a week, including holidays, you would be able to afford childcare. It is your pursuit of developing what is already a good career into something else that is affecting you now.

I also think that when we first started in the NHS, staff did matter, their own personal circumstances etc, but things have changed. It is a business, and we are a commodity. If you did your extra unpaid hours for anything other than your clients, colleagues or selfish reasons, then you were very foolish. If anything, by working extra hours you are not helping the service by making it work when it possibly does not have the resources. Expecting that to mean something is is very naive of you.

I think you are wanting to have your cake and eat it.

seaofyou Wed 05-Sep-12 22:06:11

Thanks to everyone for support, advice and opinions.
I am handing my notice in tomorrow and although devestated can understand from advice given it is the right option.
Anyone got a wine to pass my way as not a drop in the house!

ssd Fri 07-Sep-12 12:05:36

sad

its crap isnt it

acertainage Fri 07-Sep-12 22:14:01

You can appeal under the flexible working policy and like you said HR can look at a transfer for you. I don't think you need to involve unions at the moment because it's not a grievance?I know our policy says the senior manager should look at it not your manager when HR are involved and you have appealed, maybe enquire about this or check your policy. I know our policy gives you a deadline of two weeks to appeal and you have been waiting a while for a form but to be fair to make it official all you need to do is write to your manager and they need to write back. They need to prove it is detrimental for you to work what you are requesting not just that it is significant. Your right to flexible working is provided by section 47 of the employment act 2002.

acertainage Fri 07-Sep-12 22:28:40

Oh sorry didn't check your last post!!Hope you are OK.

seaofyou Fri 12-Apr-13 09:01:34

Update

I couldnt contact my manager as so down and after advice here and off a MN friend BluePenny I decided to see a solicitor.
As a carer to my disabled child they were breaking employment act not looking at flexible working.
Roll on to now and I am returning to my same position but specialised role due to my experience with my own DS. I am over the moon and looking forward to a fresh start.

I start on Monday!

A happy ending to this and a HUGE thank you to those who supported me on this thread and esp BluePenny thanks

JakeBullet Fri 12-Apr-13 09:15:24

That's good news. I didn't see your thread until just now but I was in the same position as you last year. I ended up leaving after nearly 30 years of employment in the NHS. To be fair they were fabulous and allowed me to try a variety of reduced hours and flexible working first but my DS's lack of sleep left me exhausted and as I was a specialist nurse for child protection I just couldn't run the risk of making a massive error of judgement. sad

I am now volunteering as a family support worker with an education charity and claiming Carers Allowance. It's not the same income wise at all needless to say and life is much harder financially but I don't regret dong it as I feel human again. Like you I am a lone parent with little family support and I was in an impossible situation. I wont go back to nursing now but will look at similar work where I am not carrying the can for big decisions.

Xenia Fri 12-Apr-13 09:33:48

Could you do the MSc evenings and weekends by post?
Could you hire a live in au pair even i fyou end up sharing a room with your child to help with childcare and keep working full time?
I work fulltime (5 children single parent like you supporting them alone) and finding reliable childcare is the most important aspect of it all.

Also could you not contract your services back to the NHS through an agency and go self employed?

seaofyou Fri 12-Apr-13 09:37:53

Thanks Jake and {{{HUGS}}} for your situation too very similar and stressful. I had to stop as I ended up having more stress than some of the clients and I had to do Behavioural Therapy with DS 70 hours a week (every minute spare to close the gap as huge with NT dc).

It is hard I agree with disabled child and being a nurse and add to that only nurse with all that responsibility.
I am fortunate due to Gov new Policy and they need specialist role that I have been doing for 5 years at home.

If you contact NMC Jake your role may allow you to maintain your PIN? I worked voluntary with MS Society and DS Behaviour Therapy counted towards hours as I work in MH.

If you can keep your PIN you may well be able to return one day. There is also return to Nursing as another option when family life becomes easier. I am sure your current position you are still bringing expert professional advice and support that is not only fantastic for your clients and company but also gives you positive rewards. But please check with NMC re your PIN.

seaofyou Fri 12-Apr-13 09:47:19

Xenia it is more complicated with child with disabilities....when ds first dx I used to have to attend 20-30 hospital appointments a year and you cant put your child in regular child care. The council offer childcare but at £35 hour you can see why a nurse who earns half that would not be able to work. Disability childcare private is £20-25 hr also. Plus their are not many of them around.

My mum who had 4 of us said it was far easier having 4 NT children than 1 disabled child.

NHS dont tend to do self employed working esp for nurses for the nurse/client protection and NHS Trust mainly for legal reasons.

ssd Fri 12-Apr-13 10:06:57

thats great op!

Bonsoir Fri 12-Apr-13 10:19:36

Xenia - read the update! The OP found a better solution through a solicitor than your half-baked cake!

seaofyou Fri 12-Apr-13 10:20:14

thanks ssd for your support too and Salbert and others...

I am going to work 4 days a week over school hours and school term times. The role also amazing as helping in pre/post diagnosis and support of adults with similar diagnosis to DS.

I feel I am getting my life back smile

Xenia just realised you were replying to my orginal thread thanks for your suggestions smile

Xenia Fri 12-Apr-13 12:04:53

Ah, an old thread. Had read the update. Glad it worked out. I suppose the moral is see a solicitor and your life will always be improved.

ssd Fri 12-Apr-13 18:46:48

brilliant op!

now if you see an old life wandering about looking lost and alone, please pass it onto me, I lost mine ages ago!!

pansyflimflam Fri 12-Apr-13 18:58:58

How wonderful, great news

Norem Fri 12-Apr-13 19:05:30

I remember your thread, brilliant well done you smile)

seaofyou Sat 13-Apr-13 00:40:37

{{{hugs}}} ssd if its any consolation I am finanically worse off returning to work although mentally/social/physically better off as will have contact with human kind again as can be very isolating with disabled child.

Thank you pansy and norem

ssd Sat 13-Apr-13 15:44:10

oh op, I'm just glad you've found something so good to suit you, the benefits far outweigh the financial aspect x

WouldBeHarrietVane Sat 13-Apr-13 15:52:08

I gladly worked holiday times before I had kids and didn't begrudge people in op's position time off.

There are lots of people without kids or with older teens / family nearby happy to work school hols, so I really can't see why term time only is a problem.

WouldBeHarrietVane Sat 13-Apr-13 15:53:39

Just read update - so pleased smile

OldLadyKnowsNothing Sat 13-Apr-13 15:58:55

Pleased to see your life improving, seaofyou. smile

seaofyou Sat 13-Apr-13 19:20:27

thanks OLKN and WBHV
and OLKN you know what this means I can be in a position to actually sell up and move at some point YAHOOOOO FREEDOM!!!!

ssd I know sad I'm so sorry...can you ever do a return to nursing course in the future when family life eases at some point?

seaofyou Sat 13-Apr-13 19:30:10

sorry ssd not nursing...management doh!
I wonder if these new rules for mothers coming out in 2014?? where you can work term time only will then give you the opportunity to return? I hope so {{{hugs}}} it's hard esp when you love your job and lots of skills/experience to offer. Keep positive one day soon you can go back...I never thought I could and tbh don't know how long it will last hopefully the next 20 years but it depends how on ds is esp when going to secondary school then college etc but just thinking of Monday for now and taking it one day at a time.

CPtart Sat 13-Apr-13 19:41:44

I too left the NHS after twenty years (district nurse) because they wouldn't allow me to work set days (including weekends and bank holidays). So I Went. Am now employed in general practice which although has its own stresses is great. I feel appreciated and am able to organise regular childcare.

seaofyou Sun 14-Apr-13 11:27:12

Thanks CP and glad it worked out for you too.

Starting to get nervous as going back to same place.
Feel a bit let down tbh as I realised they were not 'friends' as no one contacted me when I took the break from work and they all knew why. Sad as I supported two friends through a divorce/family probs going over above in support in/out of work. I going back for the clients not the staffsmile

A friend in need...you realise who is their for you! But such is life you live and learn and I have had more support here with true offers of help and support than I could ever imagine smile

badguider Sun 14-Apr-13 11:44:42

I see your side totally but I do think you being away for the summer holiday will be very hard on any team. Other holidays of 1-2 weeks are just like covering for annual leave but in the summer they'd need to get a temp or agency staff in wouldn't they?
Can you think about other ways to use your same skills either self-employed or in the private sector but providing service to the NHS or joining agency/bank staff? A lot of parents find contracting to work for family life as you get a higher wage when working but can take summer off.
I think you need to put your (understandable) hurt and anger at your current employer aside and start to think laterally.
Good luck.

Salbertina Sun 14-Apr-13 13:25:39

Fab, OP, excellent news. Good luck!

seaofyou Sun 14-Apr-13 19:05:41

BadgMy position is not caseload but discharge after post diagnosis support so no need for covering whilst off looking after my disabled DS. I would never have expected that situ to work in as I agree not fair on team.

Thank you Salbertina for your support back then thanks

WeAreSix Sun 14-Apr-13 19:47:22

Interesting reading the thread!

I tried to return to my post as a midwife after maternity leave & being 'looked after' by the chronic pain team with unresolving SPD. (Turns out they'd misdiagnosed me but you get the picture!)

I requested to reduce my hours from 25pw and either have an annualised or term-time contract. I made it very clear that I wanted more hours during the school holidays as DH is a teacher and therefore I had childcare, where during term I didn't. I wanted to work the unsocial hours where most parents needed to be home.

My request was declined. My colleagues were amazed that the one person who wanted to work through August was told no. I handed my resignation in, and thought I'd probably said goodbye to my registration.

It ended well though smile I now have no SPD or mobility problems and I start a new post as a Nurse Clinical Supervisor in August. This employer loves that I want to work evenings, weekends, nights and especially school holidays. They understand that my DD with SEN needs extra care. I even went on to have another baby smile

So, stuff you NHS Trust! You may not want someone working when everyone else wants AL but you're on your own with that one!

seaofyou Sun 14-Apr-13 23:18:09

shock WeAreSix that they never bit your arm off with that request!

One door shuts and a fab one opened for you too well done and congrats on new baby to smile

ssd Mon 15-Apr-13 09:23:00

glad it turned out for you too wearesix

I cant understand the blinkered approach of some employers, no wonder good staff leave

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