Would you expect to be paid?

[madasamarchhare]

I was unable to work this week as my father was rushed to hospital with a heart attack. I went with him in the ambulance and then didn't work the few days I was meant to as felti needed to spend the time with him while he was in hospital. Work have advised me they will not be paying me. Tbh I feel this is a little unfair but at no point was I prepared to leave him so am not about to argue. Just wondered what general opinion is. Would you expect to be paid or am I feeling a bit sensitive?

[PenguinsandtheTantrumofDoom]

Unless there is a policy for paid leave in these circumstances, unpaid is normal. Sorry

[BopToTheTop]

My employers would not pay me, as already mentioned I expect this is the norm

[HermioneWeasley]

Varies from workplace to workplace.

If you are a long serving employee with an otherwise excellent attendance record, I might expect some leeway like taking annual leave.

[madasamarchhare]

Ok thank you all I suspected that was the case. Iam a long standing well thought of (I believe!!) member of staff. I have had a few days sickness over the last year but generally v reliable. As I say I wouldn't have not been with him he was my priority I think I'm just feeling generally a bit wrung out and sensitive. Thank you all.

[Chertsey]

By the book they're right. but I do think most employers would pay it, unless it was an employee with a poor record in either performance or attendance.

I'd pay a good staff member in that situation, I might not pay someone I felt wasn't pulling their weight IYSWIM.

I hope he's recovering well.

[madasamarchhare]

Thanks Chertsey I think that's why I feel a little peeved I have always felt values and I just thought they'd show a little more empathy in this situation. He is recovering thank you has revealed underlying issues so he is receiving the treatment he needs. I am paid by the hour and I think work are cutting back like so many are and I think (without asking) their opinion is just that if you aren't there they won't pay you. I just feel a little more disappointed in them really as I've always been of the opinion that the people I work with are so lovely and considerate and this is just making me question that.

[SantasLittleMonkeyButler]

No, I would have been paid for the initial day but not subsequently.

I hope your DDad is better soon

[Seekingtheanswers]

I'd have been paid for the initial day. I'd have taken annual leave after that though.

[omletta]

Have they asked you if you wish to use annual leave or TOIL? It might be an idea to suggest this - certainly you should not expect to be paid IMO

[madasamarchhare]

No no options have been discussed. Tbh would rather not be paid than use leave as rather take this when kids off school. What is TOIL please? Think I have heard of this before but can't remember? No one in any authority has spoken to me at all only main colleagues have enquired as to how df is. I have just literally not been paid which I feel is bad form anyway.

[Azquilith]

I once had a team member with a child in hospital. I of course encouraged her to drop everything and the company supported with paid leave. After 3 weeks, when the child had been out of hospital for some time (tho they were a little imprecise in dates) I politely advised that I completely supported them but that leave from the following Monday would have to be unpaid.
He arrived back on Monday. I then overheard him telling another enquiring colleague that his child 'had been fine for over a week and it had been great to spend time with them'.

[Azquilith]

Sorry was a him with a her child.

[madasamarchhare]

Yes in that situation I can see certain people take advantage. However I never do. I know sometimes employers have to make a judgment call but considering I had called from the hospital in a v upset state as you can imagine and Df still in hospital now I had hoped I would be paid. I feel it's v 50/50 and I will not be entering into a discussion at work over it but I do feel upset that they didn't feel they could pay me. I missed 12 hours pay at minimum wage.

[sanfairyanne]

i wouldnt expect a pay deduction, so i suppose that means i would expect to get paid, but i would probably make up the time at a later date instead

[TerrifiedMothertobe]

No consideration for compassionate leave? My parents have major illnesses and I have been called from work on many occasions (5 heart attacks, 2 stokes) and actually had aound 6 weeks paid leave. I am a permanent employee with 7 years service In a senior role at a ftse 100 compmay.

But, previous job was in a small start up...

Horses for courses?

[cece]

In a similar situation my employer paid me.

[Marcipex]

My employer wouldn't pay me. And would be furious.

[madasamarchhare]

Why would your employer be furious marciepex? Because you didn't go to work as you were in an ambulance with your df being blue lighted to the nearest hospital as he had had a heart attack. Surely that would be a very heartless employer. Maybe I'm too naive to hope that people would be more considerate than that. I think people need to remember that any of us could be in that situation one day.

[EBearhug]

TOIL is time off in lieu.

[fairyella]

I would be paid for the first day or two, but entirely at the discretion of my manager. I think our official policy would be the compassionate leave process, which I'm 99% sure is unpaid.

I would request to take the other days off (or the whole thing off, if manager's decision was entirely unpaid, per the formal process) as emergency holidays, i.e. taken from my annual leave.

Or TOIL at a push, yes. (So, make up the time, although that's harder where I am since you're just generally expected to work whatever hours needed to give the results they expect, rather than shift-type work.)