New job - when should I hand my notice in to my current job?

[JemimaMuddledUp]

I have a new job, which I will start on January 6th. As I have been officially offered the job and accepted I could hand my notice in tomorrow, which would take me up to the end of term on the 20th December (I work in a school). However, that would mean that I won't get paid for the two weeks over Christmas. If I hand my notice in on December 7th I would get paid for the whole period up until when my new job starts, however it would give my current employer less time to advertise for and find a replacement.

WWYD?

[youbethemummylion]

Depends how much you value your old employers opinion of you and how much the 2 weeks wages means to you.

[flowery]

You can give more notice than you are contractually required to, if you want to be helpful. So you could give notice now that you will be leaving employment on whatever date.

[FunkyBoldRibena]

Give whatever notice is in your contract. If they needed more they'd have asked for more.

[JemimaMuddledUp]

It would be hard going to lose 2 weeks wages TBH. My employers know that I have been offered and have accepted another job, but I have been waiting for an official start date so haven't been able to hand my notice in until now. But I don't think they can advertise for my replacement until I hand my notice in officially.

Can I give six weeks notice rather than the four in my contract? As this would solve both problems. Are there any pitfalls that might arise from doing this?

[MerylStrop]

Would they be able to recruit in time to replace you/plan how to cover for you if you tell them now?

Are they likely to be grumpy with you about it?

You should certainly be paid for your holidays anyway? Your wages reflect the holiday allowance and presumably your work this year to date means that you have an entitlement to leave?

[JemimaMuddledUp]

My wages are worked out over the 39 weeks of term plus 4 weeks holiday, then divided over 12 months. So I'm not sure how it would work with December's pay if I left before the end of the month.

[JemimaMuddledUp]

They are grumpy about everything. It is one of the reasons why I am leaving after 9 years.

[StealthPolarBear]

But surely you will get paid in those two weeks? Teacheds dont get paid for rhe holidays so whether youre employed by the school or not is irrelevant. Thw salary they pay you will relate to hours worked in term tkme
Apols for typos phone gone nuts

[MerylStrop]

I wouldn't tell them beforehand if there is the vaguest chance that they would try to not pay you for the holiday.

[StealthPolarBear]

Hw can they thouh?

[StealthPolarBear]

Does anyone know the answer? Was through mn I learned that teachers dont get paid for hols...

[FeetUpUnitilChristmas]

I would wait until the date so that there is no question of you getting full pay in December.

[JemimaMuddledUp]

I think I would lose out on pay if I finished at the end of term as I wouldn't be working a full month. My pay is worked out as a salary per month based on weekly wage multiplied by number of weeks worked and then divided by 12 months. If I am only employed for 3 weeks of a month I will only get 75% of a month's salary. I think.

[StealthPolarBear]

Bloody hell! So they'll withhold wages youve already earned!

[LightastheBreeze]

Since they're grumpy i would just give them the official notice period to make sure you get all your pay. Employers rarely give there employees any favours nowadays

[claretandamberforever]

Could you not give your month's notice on 5th December so your last working day is 5th Jan? After all, if you hadn't have been notified until 4th December that you had been offered the job that is what you have been doing - you just found out a bit earlier didn't you?

[swingonastar]

When I left a teaching post in similar circumstances, I was told that holidays didn't count as part of your notice, meaning I had to actually work the full 4 weeks. I was able to split it around the holidays though - 2 weeks before and returned for 2 weeks after. I am in Scotland, if that makes a difference.

I didn't ever question this as it was no problem, and I was happy with this arrangement, but I don't know for definite if this is correct or not! There was no way I could afford to lose the pay from the holidays, even if they worked it all out and I got a percentage of it in my final pay, I needed it all!

[HarrietJonesPrimeMinister]

If you're moving from one school to another under the same council then its worth not having the break between jobs as if you need continuous service it might count (does here)