(43 Posts)
enlightenmequick Mon 03-Feb-14 13:49:12

Any English teachers to recommend a book on Macbeth?

I'd like her to read the original version, but I don't want to have to sit the whole time next to her, to explain. That's assuming I can

But I'm loathe to give her a version that isn't in the original style.

Can anyone recommend one that gives notes/explanations by the side?


enlightenmequick Mon 03-Feb-14 13:49:29

She is year 9

eatyourveg Mon 03-Feb-14 14:00:11

Why don't you get her this version. dc use this series at school. the text is set out on one side and notes are on the facing page. Alternatively there are online sites similar to the York notes series. Sparknotes and Cliff Notes both bring sites dc have used.

Essiebee Mon 03-Feb-14 15:38:42

Take her to see a live version, or hire a DVD, or even 'Animated Tales from Shakespeare'; these are plays, meant to be watched.

What Essie said. Drives me nuts all the ploughing through Shakespeare in the classroom.

enlightenmequick Mon 03-Feb-14 15:47:12

Thanks veg I've ordered it for her kindle.

Essie Exit I always prefer to read a book, and think on the whole that film versions are rubbish in comparison- with exception of the Pride and prejudice series- but I do take your point and will get her a DVD.


josephinebornapart Mon 03-Feb-14 15:54:02

Watching the film gives them the basic plot.

reading a Shakespeare play on your own is bloody awful. I read 8 in 2 months for an OU course at level 3 and even I was fed up !

Watch on film then read with something like York notes.

Or listen to it on audio and follow with the text.

maillotjaune Mon 03-Feb-14 17:01:27

I like reading (some) Shakespeare. But I'm 43. Hated most of it at school and although I agree that many films of books are crap, that's because novels are adapted for the screen.

A play that uses the original script is different, even if the setting / staging is unusual.

brokenpurpleheart Mon 03-Feb-14 17:08:09

Just to point out Macbeth is a play. It a book, and as a result is meant to be watched not read. There are some fantastic DVD versions out there that show the dark and evil side of the play. Polanski's version is fabulous.

I,prefer to read a book than watch a film, but watch a play. It read a script.

brokenpurpleheart Mon 03-Feb-14 17:09:07

Just to add to that Shakespeare wrote his plays to be watched, especially as vast percentages of the audience would not be able to read ...

EvilTwins Mon 03-Feb-14 17:43:21

"I always prefer to read a book"

angry drama teacher. It's not a book, it's a play FFS. Performed by skilled actors, Shakespeare will always make more sense when watched than when read.

enlightenmequick Mon 03-Feb-14 18:50:13

Oh dear, I've said some confrontational things on here, but I didn't think that 'I always prefer to read a book' would be one of them.

I did say I see the point.

I always prefer books, because I love books.

So shoot me.

enlightenmequick Mon 03-Feb-14 18:51:29

Thank you Broken i will look for Polanski's version

EvilTwins Mon 03-Feb-14 18:53:17

It's not a book! Shakespeare didn't write it as a book. He wrote it as a play! Stop calling it a book. Don't refer to it as a book to your DD. Don't imply that she has to read it.

No bloody wonder teachers (like me) have such issues teaching Shakespeare.

I love Shakespeare and yes, have read most of the plays, but I always always get more from watching them.

If your DD's teacher has anything about him/her, they'll be performing it in English lessons, not reading it. Particularly not reading it to themselves.

EvilTwins Mon 03-Feb-14 18:56:20
enlightenmequick Mon 03-Feb-14 18:57:42

It will come in a book form, I meant. I am aware it is a play, performed in the Globe Theatre, with men having to play the part of women characters.

Funnily enough, I did English at school, and history.

Some people have too little to worry about...........

enlightenmequick Mon 03-Feb-14 18:58:21

But thank you for the links. i do appreciate that. grin

WidowWadman Mon 03-Feb-14 19:00:13

By watching it performed as a play or film however you will always get the director's (and actors') interpretation of the play. I don't think it's useful to only look at it performed and not look at the actual text. And spark notes aren't a replacement for reading the actual text either.

At uni we usually used the Arden Shakespeare which normally includes some helpful introductory essay and footnotes.

Loveleopardprint Mon 03-Feb-14 19:05:11

Blimey! Bet you thought you were just asking for some straightforward advice. Usborne books do great versions of the plays in story form as she is only nine and might understand that better.

Loveleopardprint Mon 03-Feb-14 19:05:51

Ducking now as will probably get told off for something.

EvilTwins Mon 03-Feb-14 19:06:26

Year 9, Loveleopard - so 13/14

enlightenmequick Mon 03-Feb-14 19:09:30

love I know!

I think some people just have pet things they hate, like misspellings, punctuation, and pronunciation. and I'm shit at all three smile

Sorry love you missed read me, she's in year 9, which makes her 13, but thank you for replying.

I definitely want her to read and understand the original version, so I want something with both the original text and footnotes to explain.

enlightenmequick Mon 03-Feb-14 19:10:45

see- misread not missed read. Doh!

EvilTwins Mon 03-Feb-14 19:13:04
enlightenmequick Mon 03-Feb-14 19:16:01

Thank you Evil

Loveleopardprint Mon 03-Feb-14 19:16:50

Aah ok! Thought she was very advanced for her age. Good luck with it. My 13 yr old had to read Jane Eyre last term. She moaned as she loves sci fi and horror but I think she secretly liked it by the end. School took them to see it on stage and showed them a film version. Think it's great for them to read other genres.

EvilTwins Mon 03-Feb-14 19:19:16

My kids (7 yrs old) have this and really enjoy the stories, but they're written as prose, not script, which is different grin

Eggsiseggs Mon 03-Feb-14 19:25:18

There are also some fab graphic novel (well, play!) versions. Will see if I can find the ones I bought.

enlightenmequick Mon 03-Feb-14 19:29:01

Love I did Macbeth at school too, funnily enough and I really liked it. I love Jane Austen and have a big collection of 'the classics', that DP goes mad about as they are yellow and a bit whiffy (20 years old) but I refuse to throw them out in case DD1 wants to read them, but so far she has only read Heidi. grin

She is in twlight/hunger games/beautiful creatures mode at the minute. hmm

I have 3 yr old twins evil I may buy that for them in the future.

20 year old books smell confused ?

gingertom Tue 04-Feb-14 05:23:05

Graphic novel with original text here:

Recommended by my son's drama teacher.

Also available in plain English and quick text version.

DoctorDonnaNoble Tue 04-Feb-14 06:17:06

We use Cambridge Schools Shakespeare with Year 9. We save Arden for 6th Form. What Shakespeare is she doing in school this year?

curlew Tue 04-Feb-14 06:25:02

Seriously- can I ask why you want her to read it? I am a grown up with a degree in English, and I don't enjoy reading Shakespeare.

ProphetOfDoom Tue 04-Feb-14 06:36:39

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enlightenmequick Tue 04-Feb-14 11:34:10

I don't want her to read it curlew she's doing it in her English class, and she misses a lot of school due to medical problems and she asked me to get her it. smile

Exit I used to smoke. blush

enlightenmequick Tue 04-Feb-14 11:36:36

Doctor Macbeth, that's why she wants it.

I'm not that much of a tyrant, that I force her to read Shakesphere in her spare time! grin

cory Tue 04-Feb-14 12:17:56

<cautiously sticks head over parapet>

I always used to enjoy reading plays when I was at secondary because then I could imagine how I would direct them, with my perfect cast of actors and unlimited funds and my ideas out there. I notice dd did the same.

enlightenmequick Tue 04-Feb-14 14:20:40

cory That is actually why I like books- the imagination used. I have rooms, costumes, mannerisms all in my head, and then when I watch a film adaptation I lose all that, and my images are overridden by the film versions.

But yes, to save my neck, I will re-iterate that I understand it was written as a play originally and was meant to be watched to be enjoyed. grin

enlightenmequick Tue 04-Feb-14 14:22:44

Matilda ah, well she won't be able to watch it then. I'll look for a 12 version. Thanks.

sonlypuppyfat Tue 04-Feb-14 14:24:13

We did macbeth at school and then we were all dragged to the theatre to see it, hours and hours of my life I will never see again.

enlightenmequick Tue 04-Feb-14 14:24:15

sorry ginger missed your post.

Thank you, I will take a look now.

surreytuition Sun 16-Feb-14 15:25:28

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cardibach Sun 16-Feb-14 19:05:52

Google 'No Fear Shakespeare Macbeth' - it gives an online version of the text with a really good modern English version alongside. My pupils usually find it helpful.

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