Kingston Grammar 11+

(68 Posts)
mondaygirl Tue 14-Jan-14 13:55:13

Does anyone know how many sat the 11+ exam this year for Kingston Grammar, and when you can expect to be called back for an interview?

irisha Tue 14-Jan-14 14:16:18

630 people sat the exams.

I think the letter says when they start calling for interviews, I don't have it to hand, but I imagine the calls should be starting now, given it's been more than a week since the exam.

Girls are called before boys so if you have a boy you might have a longer wait.

mondaygirl Tue 14-Jan-14 15:07:54

Wow, that's a lot. Is it usually that number do you know? Fingers crossed for an interview phonecall.

SonorousBip Tue 14-Jan-14 17:41:53

I think they said at the open day that they had 900+ last year with 10+ and 13+, so that sounds right. Eeeek!

FYI, the accepted wisdom seems to be that you get either a general interview or a "subject interview" if they have concerns about either English or Maths. My DS had a general one last year and they literally could not have been nicer to him - he said he liked science and was looking forward to doing experiements and the interviewer showed him video clips of science experiments on her ipad, including ones that went wrong and they had a good chortle. It certainly did not seem to be the type of interview where they try and trip you up or ask you your views on quantitative easing etc. Good luck!

irisha Tue 14-Jan-14 17:56:11

630 is for 11+ only. Adding about 120 for 10+ and 80-100 for 13+, does get one to 830 or so.

But I think if you get an interview you have good chances as they will obviously make more offers than places.

ClaraMaugham Tue 14-Jan-14 18:15:59

We had a phone call today for DD. I have heard the boys get told later, but it's obviously underway! DD has an English interview - anyone know what to expect?

reddidi Wed 15-Jan-14 02:22:58

But I think if you get an interview you have good chances as they will obviously make more offers than places.

I think the head said on the open day that for 11+ entry they expected about 600 to sit the exam, to interview about 300 and to make about 200 offers for the 90-100 places (presumably some of these are initially waiting list offers - many of the candidates who do best will also get offers from Hampton/LEH, state grammars etc.).

reddidi Wed 15-Jan-14 02:28:08

"DD has an English interview - anyone know what to expect?"

It may vary over time and according to interviewer, but I wouldn't be surprised if she was asked to read aloud and answer questions about the passage she has read as well as some more general conversation perhaps starting off with her reading interests.

Shootingatpigeons Wed 15-Jan-14 10:05:03

They may well focus on an area of weakness in the exam, so a friend's DD was given a topic and asked to come up with a story, and challenged to take it further. She knew the story she had written had been a bit unimaginative and formulaic. I know others who had Maths interviews that tunnelled in on particular topics as well .

DDs general interview was with two others with a History teacher and was also fun, I suspect a bit of a charm offensive. I just wish we had fallen for it.

Good school, everyone we know who goes there is happy and does well.

Dinocroc Wed 15-Jan-14 17:56:10

Thanks for the info wise ones. Just invited for a general interview so feeling optimistic reading these posts. Oh and he is a boy , so they must be rattling through those calls....

ClaraMaugham Wed 15-Jan-14 21:03:11

Thanks for the advice everyone, and well done to your DS Dinoroc!

It's slightly confusing as English is normally DD's stronger subject, so this was probably the last thing we were anticipating. What reddidi and Shootingatpigeons describe sounds all right though and hopefully fingers crossed she'll be able to cope with that kind of thing. Urgh, I'm at the stage of wondering why on earth we put them (and ourselves) through all this...

castlesintheair Fri 17-Jan-14 17:11:57

DS had a general interview last year and was offered a place. IIRC on the offer letter it said 550 had sat the exam. DD1 was one of 230 to sit the 10+ this year so it is becoming increasingly competitive. Good luck to everyone.

ClaraMaugham Fri 17-Jan-14 17:40:16

It sounds as if the general interview is more or less an offer already. Do you know how often the English/Maths interviews get offers? DD has now done hers and felt it went quite well, but she is prone to a rose tinted view I think... Good luck to your DD!

sybilwibble Fri 17-Jan-14 18:52:19

I don't understand why there is a 10+? I thought KG was only from 11 and 11+ was the first entry point?

reddidi Fri 17-Jan-14 19:39:54

"It sounds as if the general interview is more or less an offer already."

As before, I'm pretty sure that 200 eventual offers for 300 interviews is what the Head said so that's a good chance, but definitely not time to burn backup bridges yet.

"I don't understand why there is a 10+? I thought KG was only from 11 and 11+ was the first entry point?"

It used to have a small (one form) Y6 entry too, but stopped this ?3 years ago. You can still do an exam in Y5 but entry is deferred until Y7, and I think they limit it to ?20 places so with 200 candidates the questions might be easier but the competition is tougher.

castlesintheair Fri 17-Jan-14 20:25:51

Yes 230 trying for 25 places at 10+. For us, and many others I suspect, it is practice for 11+ next year plus they give you feedback which is helpful. ClareMaugham, sorry no idea about english/maths interviews but I know they do offer a lot of places. Good luck to your DD. The waiting is awful.

wheresthebeach Sat 18-Jan-14 18:58:55

So if we've not heard by now are we out of the running? We did 10+ for practice but am now desperate to hear (which is absurd, I know).

nmonkandmmonk Sat 18-Jan-14 19:47:19

wheresthebeach I don't know of anyone who has heard about 10+ yet. My friend with a boy in year 6 got a call on Thursday for an interview and I think the 11+ applicants are contacted first. I think we will hear this week about 10+ although don't know if it will be a call or a letter.

wheresthebeach Sun 19-Jan-14 00:53:35

Thanks. Will try to regulate breathing now. X

DD did 10+ last year at KGS (and got a place, phew) but she did 11+ this year as poss scholarship (which she didn't get). I asked in teh office on the day and they said they had 800 for the 11+ this year.
Good luck to you all waiting

castlesintheair Mon 20-Jan-14 14:42:14

Apparently the interviewing for 10+ starts today so if we haven't had "the call" by now, the rejection letter is probably on it's way. I wasn't expecting anything different but am now feeling nervous about the 11+ next year given those numbers CountessDracula! My DD will be completely untutored too. Her peers mostly have at least 2 tutors. Gulp.

wheresthebeach Mon 20-Jan-14 16:31:39

Rats.odds at a girls school better I guess..

ClaraMaugham Mon 20-Jan-14 17:50:46

Seriously 800 for the 11+ Countess? That's horrific! Is that 200 more than anticipated?

Fruitbat05 Mon 20-Jan-14 20:28:13

Just wondering if anyone has actually heard re 10+ from Kingston Grammar, either way?!

ttcnumber3maybe Mon 20-Jan-14 20:40:21

Hi folks! Ds took 10 plus on 4 jan and we haven't heard yet either. I bit the bullet and called up on Friday and they advised me that they were focusing on 11 plus and hadn't got to 10 plus yet... Would likely start this week ... Keep us posted! How did your dec find it? Ds found it easier than hampton 10 plus and at least didnt race through this time... He even checked his answers apparently!!! (Minor miracle!)... But with 230 for 20 or so places its pretty tough odds! Would love to know how many interview if anyone got any insider info! Good luck!

Fruitbat05 Mon 20-Jan-14 20:55:30

Hi, to be honest it was more of a experiment, to give DS an idea for next years 11+. Hence, we only did Kingston, he felt it went ok but I don't hold out much hope as we didn't do any tutoring. Like Wheresthsbeach I am now a bit desperate to hear despite having a very causal approach to start. Must try harder.....

ttcnumber3maybe Mon 20-Jan-14 21:03:58

We didn't tutor either, just a bit of extra work at home. Ds in an 'outstanding' state primary and in all top sets, at level 5. Ten plus was an experiment for us as well and wanted to see really how he got on, didnt hold out huge hope esp after hampton, but really just want to know now for his sake as he asks me if post has been every day (and honestly ive been downplaying it). ds was a bit flummoxed by hampton and rushed it all, but he had loved the school at open day ... mind you we have an outstanding (and free) state secondary on our doorstep where kids reg get into oxbridge and russel group unis so lucky position really... But it's the not knowing!

Fruitbat05 Mon 20-Jan-14 21:12:17

It is the not knowing, my DS very keen footballer which isn't the biggest sport at KSG, but it would be nice to hear! Good luck, am sure we'll all be updated soon. Yikes

CherryEmma Tue 21-Jan-14 13:36:54

Hello, have you tried posting this on Kingston Local talk board too? Here's the link:

local.mumsnet.com/Talk/kingston-upon-thames/local-active

Local Editor

wheresthebeach Tue 21-Jan-14 17:37:30

Still silence...we avoided exam prep too as wanted so see where dd fell naturally. Now wishing...sigh

Fruitbat05 Tue 21-Jan-14 19:29:51

Same here, at least the experience of the exam will be good for next year, no matter what the outcome. Every cloud and all that!

Alana1975 Wed 22-Jan-14 09:14:06

We daughter took 10+ at KGS but we have not heard about the results either.

We didn't tutor dd for the 10+ either

ttcnumber3maybe Wed 22-Jan-14 14:16:58

Nothing today in post!!

Fruitbat05 Wed 22-Jan-14 15:10:17

Nothing here either!

wheresthebeach Wed 22-Jan-14 23:52:22

No post for two days....making me crazy. Which is crazy.

wheresthebeach Wed 22-Jan-14 23:59:12

No post for two days....making me crazy. Which is crazy.

castlesintheair Thu 23-Jan-14 06:39:47

IIRC on the email it said they send letters on 13th Feb so we should all relax and enjoy this "not knowing" stage confused

Contessa28 Thu 23-Jan-14 14:17:40

Hi! I was told that if it is a rejection they send out a letter and you hear within two weeks?

wheresthebeach Thu 23-Jan-14 15:54:51

Who by??

Contessa28 Thu 23-Jan-14 22:16:34

Sorry I meant to say that someone i know who went through this a few years ago (tho it may have changed!) said that interviews start a couple of weeks after the exam and they start calling for interview. If you are not in the running you get a letter. Reading the kgs info, it does suggest that you get a letter if you are to be invited for an interview 2 weeks after the exam (tho by all accounts they are doing 11+ first and running late) and interviews 2 wks after. Surely they must send letters out if you aren't in the running? Aaarrrggghhh! Wish they were clearer so we know and can prepare kids for worst if need be ...!

wheresthebeach Thu 23-Jan-14 22:28:39

Certainly not the clearest communication in the world.

Contessa28 Fri 24-Jan-14 16:20:54

I just called kgs and they are sending out letters (hopefully today they said!) to let us know the next process and whether an interview or try again next year ... Fingers crossed all!!

wheresthebeach Tue 28-Jan-14 12:58:07

Still nothing....

Alana1975 Tue 28-Jan-14 13:29:57

nothing as well

Chooknhook Tue 28-Jan-14 14:43:14

Hello all! My DD sat the KGS 11+ this year and the not knowing the result is killing me... Did your DCs get general or maths/English interviews? My DD had a maths interview (which is def her weaker subject) and hasn't said anything about the interview other than she got a question wrong. Probably better not to know if the result's not the one we want... Does anyone know how many of those with interviews will be put on the waiting list? Unfortunately it's the only school she wants...

amidaiwish Tue 28-Jan-14 15:21:55

Sorry chooknhook can't help only to say I know lots who have had interviews and no one has heard yet. The only school which seems to be quick getting offers out is st george's weybridge. So don't fret yet !

Contessa28 Tue 28-Jan-14 18:17:57

Sir William Perkins have also put offers out for friends who have done the 11 plus. Not sure about rgs Guildford yet or hampton?

Chooknhook Tue 28-Jan-14 18:31:44

We know of letters going out from SWPS, Radnor House, Surbiton High School and St.Georges. I think Wimbledon High are posting results out on 4th Feb. Good luck to everyone!

ClaraMaugham Tue 28-Jan-14 23:51:25

Hi Chooknhook - we're waiting for 11+ too. Not expecting to hear anything for another week though. The waiting is the worst. No one seems to have any numbers to cheer us up, although general feedback is that they make quite a lot of offers. I have certainly known many DC be offered KGS in the past, including several who turned it down for other schools. So fingers crossed we should be in with a shot. Getting to interview is definitely an achievement so far!

reddidi Wed 29-Jan-14 01:05:00

From the information emailed to 11+ applicants:

Offers will be sent by first class post on:

Tuesday 4th February 2014 for girls
Thursday 13th February 2014 for boys

All acceptances are due by noon on Wednesday 5th March 2014.

Note there is a separate thread for 10+ handholding.

wheresthebeach Wed 29-Jan-14 09:23:10

A friend has had a Surbiton High offer so they are def winging their way across London

Chooknhook Wed 05-Feb-14 07:10:34

Has anyone had the post today? shockMy nerves are so frayed...

irisha Wed 05-Feb-14 12:56:39

Yes, we just had the post, literally half an hour ago with offer for DD. They post girls' offers earlier (I think yesterday was the official posting date).

Chooknhook Wed 05-Feb-14 13:03:11

Congratulations irisha!
You must be absolutely delighted.
Still no sign of our postman...

irisha Wed 05-Feb-14 13:16:16

Thank you Chooknhook,

We are, of course, delighted, but a) a bit number since this process is so draining that you kind of become apathetic by the end of it (and we still have to wait for 14th re other schools); b) head change is a concern. Although I had a conversation a few days ago with someone who claims knowledge of the recruitment process (and he did seem to know a lot about all the heads and heads changes) and he says that KGS was absolutely inundated with applications and had a huge pool to choose from - and the new head is supposed to be very good. My concern of course is that he doesn't seem to have experience in the private sector and comes from a boy's school rather than co-ed or mix of experiences (I think Sara Fletcher's CV before KGS was a lot more exciting).

We'll see. Fingers crossed for you. They certainly sent the letter so whatever the outcome you'll know soon enough. The wait is an absolute killer!

Shootingatpigeons Wed 05-Feb-14 13:32:27

The buzz inside the school about the new Head is very positive. I am not sure of the origin but he seems to have impressed staff, students or both. Also I think Sarah Fletcher has been amazing, by far the most impressive Head at all these schools but she had a very solid bedrock in terms of the staff. A lot of continuity. When my DDs applied it was the previous rather dry business like Head, a delegator, but that sense that the school is encouraging and happy was there then as well.

ClaraMaugham Wed 05-Feb-14 20:53:35

DD was offered a place! So pleased - we really love the school and hear such good things about it. Chooknhook did your post ever come? Ours was really late as well - so stressful!

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Oh and congrats to your dd Irisha - mine is starting there is Sept too (from 10+ last year)

reddidi Fri 07-Feb-14 14:35:08

Is it OK to quote verbatim from another publication? From the subscription only part of another site?

Oh I don't know, maybe not - I'll report myself

Though to be fair the school themselves quote from it in their prospectus online...

castlesintheair Fri 07-Feb-14 15:26:16

Thanks for posting that CD. That is very encouraging to read.

Congratulations to everyone's DCs that got in this year and good luck for next. See you on the 11+ 2015 thread!

ClaraMaugham Fri 07-Feb-14 15:53:29

Ooh he sounds lovely! Have such a good vibe about the school...

Shootingatpigeons Fri 07-Feb-14 18:47:35

It sounded to back up the buzz around the school

reddidi Tue 11-Feb-14 00:58:07

I see that the much-liked Mr Dunlop, the First Year's Head of Year, is also leaving.

Apparently he has the headship of a prep school, is moving with his family, unrelated to the head leaving. His deputy (who has been there a while) is replacing him as head of Y7.

reddidi Sat 15-Feb-14 17:49:01

Were you all parents of girls or did anyone get news yesterday?

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