Tutors - what's the going rate?

(54 Posts)
cat811 Sun 20-Jan-13 13:01:42

I know it will vary hugely, but just to get some kind of range - for a Y4 child after school, what would you pay (as a parent) or charge (as a tutor) per hour, in Home Counties?

alanyoung Sun 20-Jan-13 13:06:05

I think about £20 per hour is about right, although some might charge more. I'm assuming you want a qualified teacher and not someone who may just have an interest in the subject. I have a friend who is an osteopath who charges £40 for a 30 minute session. Allowing 50% for the costs of the surgery, that's about £40 per hour, so £20 for teaching seems very reasonable to me.

breadandbutterfly Sun 20-Jan-13 14:54:14

£20 is cheap - any qualified teacher earns a lot more per hour. plus the cost of preparation, and any travelling time. Would you work for minimum wage? Then don't expect a decent tutor to.

You might be lucky if you can get a good student prepared to work for that. But expect to pay more.

breadandbutterfly Sun 20-Jan-13 14:56:11

Also, remember that tutoring is usually done at anti-social hours eg evenings and weekends - deserves extra pay.

cat811 Sun 20-Jan-13 15:05:09

I should add that I'm the tutor (well, potential) rather than the parent - I have been approached by someone asked to do this - I am a qualified teacher (part-time) - she has asked me to to let her know how much I charge, and I have no idea what to say - I don't want to go too high or low, so hoping that a range of different answers will help me to pick something in the middle! I have no idea how to go about getting a figure otherwise - I don't think it can compare to supply rate/teaching hourly rates as it is so different.
Thanks for the replies so far.

We haven't used one, but most of my friends are paying between £25 and £35 per hour. That's for tutoring for the secondary selection test (similar to 11+) in S.W.Herts.

I charge £25 for Years 7-11 and £30 for sixth form so I'd say £20-£25 for primary depending on your experience would be fine.

YDdraigGoch Sun 20-Jan-13 15:12:08

North Wilts £20 per hour for maths GCSE tutoring.

Michaelahpurple Sun 20-Jan-13 22:21:59

Depends where. In London £40-50 ph at least.

Mominatrix Mon 21-Jan-13 06:20:17

I am having my reception age son tutored as he is in a currently in a different school system and we want him to keep in line with his peers in the English school system as he will switch into this school system at 8. I am being charged £40 an hour. Would imagine that more serious tutoring would me more expensive.

iamwhaticallpregnant Mon 21-Jan-13 06:23:54

I charged £22.

housemad Mon 21-Jan-13 09:37:16

Here is around £25-£30. At the moment I employ a retired teacher and she is good and she only charge £15.

GW297 Mon 21-Jan-13 10:25:14

30 pounds an hour if experienced. 20 if not.

Missbopeep Mon 21-Jan-13 11:27:06

Not less than £25 for a teacher who is qualified and experienced. Up to £30 is reasonable. You have to take into account their planning time and if they travel to you another £5 at least to cover their time and fuel.

Anyone who does it for less is really letting the side down professionally. If you think that a one hour lesson takes 1.5hrs with prep time anyone charging £15 is charging less than a cleaner. Cheaper tutors might do it for love but it's not fair to other full time tutors who want to earn a living from it.

Missbopeep Mon 21-Jan-13 11:29:39

Sorry- just seen your 2nd post when you said you were a teacher! All of the above.

In terms of comparing with supply I think you have to take that rate into account a little as a guide. 1:1 is actually more intense and you have to do some preparation- you can't just open a book at the start of the lesson. You might need to photocopy etc as well.

cat811 Mon 21-Jan-13 20:01:34

Thank you all - very helpful smile

LaQueen Thu 24-Jan-13 14:15:09

We're Leices/Lincs border and pay £33 an hour for DD1's 11+ tutor.

Expensive, but she gets one-to-one, and he really is the dog's bollux of tutors - 40 years teaching in grammar schools, and until he retired he was closely involved in actually setting the 11+ papers/exams.

He has a 2 year waiting list shock

badgerhead Thu 24-Jan-13 16:39:45

We paid £27 ph last year for A level Economics tutoring, in West Sussex.

deleted203 Thu 24-Jan-13 16:41:58

I'd charge at least £25 an hour because that's what I get on supply, basically. If I'm honest I don't reckon I'd do it for less than £30/hour because of the hassle of going out for just an hour or two, and the fact that I'd have to lesson plan, etc.

Inclusionist Thu 24-Jan-13 17:08:36

My DH charges £40ph in NW London.

lainiekazan Fri 25-Jan-13 09:20:05

so for a GCSE maths tutor with (not yet) qualified teacher (but able mathematician) travelling to their home, how much per hour (home counties)?

deleted203 Fri 25-Jan-13 13:50:29

Unqualified teaching pay scales work out at £12.50 per hour. (If you are an UQ teacher in schools you would be on £15,815 and you divide by 1265 for the hours worked in a school year, if that makes sense).

mumblechum1 Fri 25-Jan-13 13:52:58

I pay £37.50 per hour for A level Biology.

mumblechum1 Fri 25-Jan-13 13:53:19

btw that's Home Counties

deleted203 Fri 25-Jan-13 14:02:14

Hope you've got a qualified teacher then, mumble! That's too much for unqualified.

Missbopeep Fri 25-Jan-13 14:07:03

Why would you want an unqualified teacher lainiekazan- or are you that person smile

Sorry but having tutored for 30 years it really gets my goat when people who know their subject ( we assume) also think that equates to being a teacher.

I don't know the answer to how much. If you are that tutor, then I'd want to know that not only did you know your subject, but that you could also:

-Motivate an unwilling or shy student
-Be supportive and instil confidence
-Plan a lesson properly to suit their learning needs and tailor it to fit the 1 hr session.
-Understand their exam syllabus
-Liaise with the school if required as a professional person in your own right
-Carry out assessments of what they need to learn.

There is a lot more to be a tutor/teacher than simply opening a text book and passing on your knowledge. You need to be able to form a relationship with the student that is condusive to learning.

Not all teachers are good tutors, I grant that. But unless I knew the tutor ( maybe a family friend etc) I would never have an unqualified person to teach my DCs.

mumblechum1 Fri 25-Jan-13 14:10:36

sowornout yes, she's qualified. I've never actually met her, ds drives himself there after school, but she seems to know her stuff and he's feeling a lot more confident about the exams now smile

deleted203 Fri 25-Jan-13 14:12:03

Glad to hear it! smile.

ByTheWay1 Fri 25-Jan-13 14:27:51

I charge £30 per hour at my home for 1 to 1, and £60 per hour for up to 4 kids at the same level (part of my work is now with a group of home educators who get together fortnightly and hire me for an afternoon of fun maths)

I am not a teacher, nor do I have a degree, but I am a "professional" maths tutor who tutors up to GCSE level though I am mainly called on for Y3-6 primary school level - I have done it for 5 years, I currently have an 18 month waiting list, I have never advertised, but gone by word of mouth only - there IS a lot more to tutoring than opening a text book - but tutoring is not just about teaching either....

Missbopeep - it also goes the other way round - it gets my goat when people who have been teachers automatically assume they will make good tutors....

Missbopeep Fri 25-Jan-13 14:41:55

Do you never feel slightly guilty that you are charging more than a lot of teachers who have trained for 4 years?

How did you get into tutoring?

On the basis that you are unqualified, and other tutors like me have 30+ years' experience, a degree and specialist PG training, I should be charging twice as much- surely? smile

I am not for one moment saying you are not a good tutor- just asking myself why I spent 4 years training when I could have just said "Hey, I'm a teacher!"

willyoulistentome Fri 25-Jan-13 14:50:58

Does it differ depending on what you want the tutor for. I think my son needs help just to keep up with his class. I am not looking at getting him to do any entrance exams or anything. It's no good me trying to help him as he just ends up screaming at me. I need someone else to do it with him. Some of the tutors I have spoken to about him seem a bit sniffy about taking on anyone who isn't going to get into somewhere very selective and make THEM look good.

I just want my son to be able to cope at the (state) secondary he will be going to.

Missbopeep Fri 25-Jan-13 15:07:58

I'd be happy to tutor your son! Not saying I could as I too have a long waiting list- but in principle, I think there are plenty of teachers who are happy to work with children who are at state schools- most of mine are- and who are just a bit behind. But I still think you need a qualified teacher. It's like any profession- would you go to an unqualifed lawyer, doctor, counsellor etc- who SAY they can help you- to save money ( maybe). There is an assumption sometimes that just because someone speaks Englsih, can read, write and do some maths then they can be a teacher hmm

ByTheWay1 Fri 25-Jan-13 15:13:54

I never say "hey I'm a teacher" - I am not a teacher I am a tutor- they are different, and no I never feel guilty charging more than teachers who have trained to be teachers for 4 years as once more, I am not a teacher , I am a tutor.

If they want to charge £30 an hour and have the skills to be able to meet the needs of children in their area, than why aren't they charging that amount - supply and demand....

I got into tutoring by helping a friend's child to understand Y4 maths and helping them learn "smart" so that they could pass school tests rather than just get bogged down on the first question. I took him through the topics which he really didn't understand - fractions/ratios - and then some other mums asked for my help - Year 1 went like that, for an occasional bottle of wine as a thank you, then someone said "You should do this professionally" so I signed up for some OU courses, did some volunteering to help with maths at my local primary school - keeps me up to date on current methods, and my help is valued (which is worth as much as money to me) spoke to the taxman and hey ho 3 years later £30 an hour.

weegiemum Fri 25-Jan-13 15:16:38

In Glasgow for secondary geography. £26/hr

I charge £28/hr for A-level Biology, £25 for GCSE. I am not a qualified teacher, but have a degree and Ph.D in Biology. I also taught 2nd year Undergraduate level at University. For a specialist subject at post-16 level, I would argue you don't necessarily need a qualified teacher. The students that come to me have no faith in their 'qualified' teachers and some teachers clearly don't know their subject matter in depth. My students get very good results without me having a PGCE.

Missbopeep Fri 25-Jan-13 15:54:05

I concur absolutely that some post 16 students do not need a qualified teacher- my DD had one for A levels. Had I been able to find a teacher though ( science subject) I would have preferred that. I do agree though that there are many teachers ( and I said this 2 posts back) who are useless either in the classroom or working 1;1. But that doesn't mean all non-teachers are good tutors either- or should even try to teach.

I think it is semantics to differentiate between a tutor and teacher in the context of private tutoring. I am a teacher with QTS etc but what I do with pupils 1:1 is tutor so I am referred to as a tutor.

If anyone asked me what I did at 5pm on Mondays I'd say I tutor- not teach - or they would think I was in school.

LaQueen Fri 25-Jan-13 16:08:07

Agree with Islet.

I have good O Levels and A Level grades in English, plus a good English Literature degree and some post-grad. study.

I have worked as a tutor in the past, although I only have a vague, faffy C&G 730 in Teaching (which was just very basic common sense stuff).

Having said that, my subject knowledge is far more in depth than that of a relative who is actually a qualified teacher teaching secondary school English. And, I am far, far better read than they are.

They only got a C at GCSE, didn't even take A Level English, and went on to study Meeja at a Mickey Mouse university...yet 5 years down the line they're teaching A level English Literature hmm

Fair enough...but I know for a fact (as demonstrated by numerous conversations) that I can wipe the floor with them when it comes down to subject knowledge, breadth and depth of reading, textual analysis, conjecture...everything really.

All they do is teach to the test. They only have a working knowledge of a very limited number of texts (just the set texts, really) and they know what is required for the curriculum.

Schooldidi Fri 25-Jan-13 16:11:24

I charge £25 per hour for GCSE Maths tutoring. £30 per hour for A level. They come to my house (or my school classroom if it's been organised through school) though so I don't have travel time or costs to worry about. I'm in Cumbria.

South east, going rate is £35 ph for 1:1.

deleted203 Fri 25-Jan-13 16:32:27

Whilst maths may be slightly different (it's not my subject) I think if you are not a qualified teacher it would be very difficult to tutor GCSE or A Level students, purely because although you may know your subject you are not au fait with what the exam board require. LaQueen you sound well read, but are complaining that your relative is teaching 'to the test' and that they only know 'what is required for the curriculum'. The point is that you need to know what is required for the curriculum. Yes, it's a poor way of teaching to my mind - but if you have hired a tutor to coach your child to get the best possible grade then you do need someone who knows exactly what sort of questions will be asked, how to answer them, what examiners are looking for, etc. If you are not teaching this subject and marking coursework professionally I would imagine it is difficult to be absolutely confident that you know what the exam board require in enough depth.

sowornout - the exam boards have specifications available on their websites, endorsed textbooks are available from all good booksellers and there are masses of past papers, mark schemes and examiners reports available. I think anyone with a half decent brain can work out what is required from utilising all of these materials. I make damn sure I am 100% familiar with all of these. I am also a registered examiner for one of the exam boards - they don't require me to have a PGCE or to be actively teaching. They seem happy enough with my qualifications and subject knowledge. There's no reason why a parent looking for a quality tutor wouldn't be either.

Missbopeep Fri 25-Jan-13 17:05:46

LaQueen the fact that you know of someone who appears to be under-qualified who is a teacher in a school ( which may have occured due to teacher shortages) doesn't make it right for unqualified people to work as tutors.

I am sure you know your stuff and are a good tutor- but there are equally many, many teachers who work both as teacher and as tutors who are as well, if not more, qualified than you are.

LaQueen Fri 25-Jan-13 17:21:09

soworn I absolutely agree with you, and it's why I didn't actually tutor for very long.

Although I was passionate about my subject, and probably had as good as/if not better subject knowledge than qualified teachers, I didn't know what was required of pupils to pass the exams.

I could give a pupil a far deeper, wider understanding of, say, Wuthering Heights, than they would ever be treated to in a classroom...but, then to pass the current exams they just didn't need that depth/width of knowledge.

And, it's for precisely that reason that despite DH being a gifted mathematician (Maths prize every year at his grammar school etc), and my having a very strong literacy background - and us both being graduates with good degrees - we don't tutor DD1 for the 11+, and instead pay a professional to do it.

Missbopeep Fri 25-Jan-13 17:54:48

It works the other way too LaQueen- teachers who love literature find that the requirements of the exams demand a tiny fraction of their knowledge. Latterly this has meant that complete texts are rarely studied for GCSE ( deemed " too hard"), and texts set fot A level were once GCSE texts..and I could go on! Without blowing my own trumpet I find that my literature students do well because I tend to give more than they need for the exam.

LaQueen Fri 25-Jan-13 18:04:16

Miss yes! I have just been told this...apparently, even the top set for English at my relative's secondary school aren't required to actually read Macbeth all the way through.

It's supposedly too taxing and they don't have enough time to read it through in class, and it's considered unfair to expect them to read it at home, so they just study pertinent bits...

WTF hmm

This is probably welcomed by English teachers who don't come from a strong English background at A Level/university (like my relative)...but gads...it would drive me nuts to have to teach to such a standard (or lack of).

Tis blasphemy shock

Missbopeep Fri 25-Jan-13 18:20:07

'tis truly shocking.

A few years ago I tutored a boy who was studying a Dickens novel for his GCSE at a very good private school as it happened- and I was shocked to hear he only had to read the first few chapters.

What is more shocking was that years ago I had read that book when I was a pupil- aged 11- 12- at grammar school where it was our class reading book.

LaQueen Fri 25-Jan-13 18:35:30

Miss years ago, I covered an A Level English class...they'd already been studying Wuthering Heights for nearly 2 months...ten minutes into my carefully planned lesson, I realised my students were very hmm

After a bit of questioning, I discovered that none of them knew there were actually two Cathys in the book...

I seem to recall my pithy observation of 'Your chances of getting a decent grade in your coursework will increase ten fold if you all actually bother to read the book' didn't go down too well grin

lainiekazan Fri 25-Jan-13 19:17:56

Yes, I too was astounded when ds told me that they "don't need to read the whole play" shock

It's just bizarre, not to mention disappointing.

When I was a governor at a primary school I was talking to the "literacy coordinator" about English. It was not going well as I had mentioned Shirley Hughes of whom she had never heard, and then a few classics which also drew blank looks. She then puffed out her chest and demanded to know what exact qualifications I had as I wasn't a teacher .

LaQueen Fri 25-Jan-13 19:43:13

Apparently, according to my relative who teachers English - they need to access Macbeth in 3 different ways...except none of those 3 different ways includes actually fecking reading it hmm

It's just a joke.

I recall when exams were real exams, and you walked into the exam room facing a 3 hour exam, with just a feckin pen and a head full of quotes.

Schooldidi Fri 25-Jan-13 20:37:50

My dd1 (year 8) is currently reading macbeth. They are studying it at school but won't be reading more than a few scenes, so she has decided to read the whole thing herself. It's great that she has such enthusiasm but it's such a shame that not all of her class will bother. Most of them will watch the film in class (not even the proper version - a 'modernised' version with only the very basic storyline).

Roseformeplease Fri 25-Jan-13 20:50:05

Missbopeep. I too am a highly qualified teacher. I don't tutor because I am too busy and live in a remote area so would just be making parents pay to cover for my own inadequacies, but I have done so in the past.

I have been teaching for 20+ years.

However, I would disagree with you about the need for a qualified teacher as a tutor. I am not sure what part of my vague, waffly, mad Cambridge PGCE prepared me for tutoring - if there was anything, I slept through that bit. What I do have, is experience. But why can't a tutor without a PGCE have that too? Also, let's face it, even A Levels are just not that hard if you have a degree in the subject and can look things up. Past papers are plentiful, exam technique has changed very little over the years and anyone with a degree knows how to be a successful learner.

OP - good luck to you and to all tutors - good on you. I find small numbers very intensive and really hard work. Give me 20+ teenagers any day! And here in my bit of Scotland we do teach the WHOLE text....

LaQueen Fri 25-Jan-13 20:52:51

school back in my day, I can't say anyone was that enthused about Macbeth, but we all had to read the whole play, we had no choice.

We were 13/14 - and given the weekend to read it, then lessons started on the Monday, head-down, and woe betide anyone who hadn't read it.

loveyouradvice Sun 27-Jan-13 11:02:09

In central london one massively oversubscribed very experienced tutor charges £60 an hour.... others locally seem to charge £35-40

Muminwestlondon Sun 27-Jan-13 11:50:43

Also in central London and my tutors are excellent and charge £25 an hour. One (science) is a qualified secondary school teacher and working part time. Some do still seem to think it is a fair rate for the job. The other is a student who previously worked as a teaching assistant so knows the syllabus etc.

On the website I use, I see inexperienced students advertising for pupils for £35-£40 an hour or more.

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