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I must say I don't know much about SATS, don't know what it stands for, why it was introduced, or how to compare it (and at our dd's small state primary it's almost too taboo to ask so no one talks about it)

But the head whispered she wanted a quiet word and told me dd had got 5bs and was pleased. How does this compare nationally and do private schools have something similar?

Or does it mean diddlyskwich. DD says we need to celebrate.

The expected level for KS2 (Year 6) SATs is a 4, some children get a 5, which is divided into a(highest),b & c so it is very good - well done your DD!

With us(Wales)it seems that the levels are followed with a plus or a minus. Level 4 was the expected level in KS2 and to be getting a 5 is excellent.

She's done extremely well, you should be very proud. Big up your DD.

<whispers.....my DD1 got 5s as well, I'm beaming as she worked her socks off>

Hi there - the KS2 SATS level 5 is a good indicator that your DD should be on target to get (comfortably) Cs in her GCSEs.....

(from a secondary school teacher)

Jo

Jo - at our school we expect students with Level 4s to get Cs in GCSEs.
Students with 5s, certainly high high fives, should be aiming for As!

My understanding is that a level 5 at the end of KS3 (ie year 9) means a student is likely to get a C at GCSE; level 6 = a B; level 7/8 = A/A*.

Frumplump doesn't say what year her daughter is in. If she is in year 6 then these are above average results (though official SATS results aren't split into sub-levels). If they are optional SATS carried out at the end of Year 5 then they are excellent results.

yay (proud mother alert ) my ds got a 5 optional sats year 5 in maths . Me I have trouble turning on a calculator . LOL

That is great! Well done to your ds!

Some private schools don't do SATS and some do. DD's doesn't and DS's has just introduced them (to my bafflement).

I think whether or not your DD's results are good will depend upon how old she is. So if she's 9, this is pretty close to outstanding. If she's 10 it's very good indeed and if she's 11, she's well above average.

thank you Mrs Bartlet

The OP does say it's a state primary so must be Y6.

Jo, I'm surprised at what you say. Level 5 is well above average so a Y6 child gaining 3 L5s would be expected to get or at least aim for As in GCSE.

Many state primaries do optional SATS at the end of years 3/4/5. KS2 SATS at the end of year 6 are not split into sub-levels, which is why I wondered if the OP's child was year 5.

all 5s here
bit of an anticlimax tbh

KS2 L5 should lead to KS3 L6 or 7 and to GCSE Grade A or A* if the child follows normal progress patterns.

simples what do you mean?

I THINK that nationally about 20%(ish) of year 6 children get 5s in their SATS. So yes, you should be very pleased, OP. But I am a bit surprised about the Head's 'quiet word" It does sound a bit as if your dd is the only one - unless she was having 'quiet word' with 20% of all her year 6 parents!

yes I think it must be about 20% of class get all 5's - my daughter just got her results and it seems pretty common to get 5s. - she's at a rural state primary.

city primary - pretty much all the top set leave with 5As every year. Common expectation round here so whilst good not sure why your head needed a quiet word unless it's unusual for the school or like someone said she was having a quiet word with the other parents as well.

Afaik, just under 20% of children get L5 in writing, about 30% get L5 in maths and 40% get L5 in reading. The English part of Sats is made up of three parts - reading, writing and speaking/listening - about 30% of children get L5 for English overall.

A 5b is a very good result because it shows a secure L5.

My DD got all 5s, the only one in her class to do so. The teachers were a bit disappointed with the results.

Some schools do give grades in years other than 6. Dd1 scored straight 5b's this year. She's in year 5. [another proud mother emotion]

I think that's ignoring the fact that some schools get a lot more level 5s than others, seeker.

Didn't the comparison table with the results alert you to the fact that level 5 is pretty good, OP?

Was your dd'd progress and attainment never discussed at parents' evening then?

Feenie - not sure you'll get a response - the OP posted in 2009! But yes, I agree, it does seem like a rather disingenuous question ....