Harrodian School - as naff as its name?(62 Posts)
So far I know I don't like the name, fees seem to be just always slightly higher than other schools and they have an OFSTED report.
That said, we are not happy with the state primary school where DS1 has been allocated a place, were thinking about private school from age 7 anyway, and the Harrodian does have the advantage (for us) of being close. Obviously they will sneer at me for applying so late and tell me they are full, when they deign to answer the phone. I think I can put up with all that, but wondered if anyone had kids there, or friends?
Absolutely fantastic school and we couldn't be happier with the education and pastoral care. We had a few choices at 11+, but we were so impressed with the way they dealt with us and what the teaching staff had to offer. This year my younger son has bee offered places at Latymet and Kingston and we are going to go for the Harrodian based on our excellent experince. All the children are treated as unique and speacial and seem to thrive in a warm nurtunring enviroment.
Why is it so oversubscribed if it's so undesirable?
I'm only jumping in as someone who's considering the school and whose youngest (8 years) was just offered a place. All I can say is that you really can't judge a school from the outside looking in, based on the school's name or what you've heard or read. All schools have issues. One of the top private schools in NYC had a huge sex scandal back in the 70's that was only revealed recently via an article in the NY Times by one of the students who was there at the time. The current administration is still paying for and apologizing for what happened. It was an awful situation and worthy of scrutiny, but criminals are very devious and the school is not to blame in every case. The good news is that schools learn from experiences such as these and I do believe Harrodian will too.
I can only say the nicest thing about the staff at Harrodian and the timely manner in which they responded to any and all of my queries. While waiting with my son in the lobby to take his 8+ exam along with the other 8 year olds and their parents, I was totally impressed by the kids' great behavior and with the lovely moms (and one dad) I had the opportunity to speak with. The Headmaster seems very involved with and proud of his school and the classes my husband and I visited last spring were impressive, as was the general vibe as being warm and supportive.
So it's an artsy school. Whatever. But it seems really nurturing and anyway, highly competitive, rigid, extremely academic schools are not for everyone. And guess what?? Not everyone who attends a St. Paul's or a Harvard University, for that matter, end up being as successful as their parents or even they may envision!
Why have you dragged up a 6 year old thread Katryn?
You've just brought more peoples' attention to it.
Yes, did Becks send the boys there?
Love that post * BobbiFleckmann*. Let's cut to the real issues!
this is all very well, but do you get to perve D Beckham at pick up? Let's get to the important issues.
(all four former Harrodians I know left without a single qualification but a love for the place)
Gosh I hate the title of this thread.
MY DC is at this school, and loves it -he's academic, sporty and loves drama too, and is so far being stimulated in all three areas. I chose it over Latymer, for the wonderful environment and happy children.
Hmm, not much help as I actively avoided the Harrodian and chose Lowther above various other alternatives (private and state) - and am very happy I did.
But: I do know people whose kids are happy there, and doing pretty well. I know others who were put off, as I was, by the focus on background (address, religion, etc) expressed by the staff members leading the tour - but that was five years ago.
I would go and look around, ask lots of questions, and get an up-to-date feel for the place - IME its by far the best way to decide on a school!
ameliagrey you are quite correct. My dad used to work for House of Fraser which incorporated Harrods before it was sold off. As children my sister and I attended the most magical christmas parties and summer garden parties at the Harrodian Club. I would love to have a sneaky peak around the grounds again I have very happy memories of it all.
HelenHelenHelen - I don't think I could be as laid back as you if I received a letter from my school saying a music teacher had been arrested for paedophilia. I would be livid and asking the school lots of questions. Our children's safety at school is everything. I hope no child at your school was harmed in any way.
This may not really be on topic but the NAME comes from the fact (I think) that roughly 30 year s ago the buildings and site were the social club for employees of Harrods. I had a friend who worked at Harrods at the time and I went to various functions on the site.
Sure the school could have changed its name but that is the history of the school.
I am looking at leaving Kensington and heading for Barnes. What I thought was a tranquil place is beginning to sound terrifying, so much bitching, spite and jealousy what's going on? Anyway, having studied this whole thread on the harrodian (which I previously knew nothing about) I think I have discover a very human school, developing the hearts and minds of its pupils. It cannot be faultless no body of a thousand people could be, but that's life and the real world. I love the pupils dedication to sharing their views about the school and it doesn't matter which school your child goes to, there will always be someone who is not happy. I plan to go and check it out. My two currently attend two amazing schools, Redcliffe school and Thomas's Battersea. They are both very different, but both are fantastic for different reasons. Note Thomas's is phenomenal in its teaching and academic achievements. It is not a new school and has a lot of experience, however, we just received a letter home about a music teacher arrested on forty counts of pedophilia. It's reality, don't blame the Harrodian.
No idea about the FT tables; according to the version published by BBC, in 2011 91% passed at least 3 A levels, with average A/AS points per pupil of 808.4.
Why can't I find it on the FT league table of all A level results in all sectors?
I have nothing to do with the Harrodian but reading the thread I was slightly surprised to see two separate posts where people had been "googling the term dates". If I want tp check the term dates for DCs school, I go to the school website rather than randomly googling. But each to his/her own
Zombie thread alert!
But I have never seen so many people connected with a school who "just stumbled" upon a thread in such a short time (back then). A cynic might say it was co-ordinated.
FWIW: the school has a high proportion of slebs and the Very Rich. It has been known for quite some time as the place for the affluent whose children were not confident of passing the selection for other schools, and although they were trying to introduce a higher CE pass mark for their 13+ entrants (and be a little more selective all through), they're quite open about lowering the pass mark for a child they want to take.
I never heard anything about bullying; the reputation such as it reached me was that it was good for rich, sporty types who were not after a particularly academic school, and families who were there seem happy with it.
I don't know the school. But re the 'naff' name, it used to be the sporting club for employees of Harrods.
Wasebaro - another posting comes rushing in.
You seem not to understand an important dynamic of abuse. Perpetrators are like salmon, if one is discovered there are almost inevitably more because perpetrators fulfil their interests much more effectively and safely when they operate in multiples. Unsurprisingly this is called shoaling and the documentary demonstrated it very clearly. Of course perpetrators whose interests have not been discovered are very difficult to identify. If a perpetrator is discovered, and the institution attempts to conceal the events, then the remaining perpetrators are empowered by these actions because they know that if they are ever discovered they will also be guaranteed a concealed departure because they have a story of a previously concealed departure to 'blab' if a referral to the LADO or the police is ever considered.
You will therefore appreciate that a concealed (abuse) departure results in a 'perpetrators welcome' sign being hung on the school gates. While the administrators of the institution congratulate themselves that 'no one got to know,' the applications for the vacancy form those with an unhealthy interest in the young increases, thanks to the remaining perpetrators sending vacancy notices to those who share their predilections.
All the staff at The Harrodian seem to be superb! Your friend will be in good company...
A former colleague of mine is starting at Harrodian this September and if he is the usual kind of teacher they employ then the teaching side must be superb.
I have just watched this documentary - thank you very much for directing me to it - and found it most devastating. I can say, however, that I see the impossible situation in which the innocent institution (in this occassion The Harrodian) at which the offender was working is placed. As each of the men in this amazing documantary agreed, EVERY school will wish to distance themselves from this blight on their name. What choice do they have? After all, they will have been as amazed as anyone else to hear of it. There are many paedophiles out there and the most successful of them are never caught. No school would willingly set them on our children, and I pray that opportunity knocks less and less as our society talks more about it. Are our children ever safe? No. What would have made me lose faith in the school would have to have been their knowledge of this Carson's past, or their hiding of abuse at their own school. But to distance themselves from him is understandable don't you think?
Well there is something you may also wish to consider as it can happen at any school, but it is the way it is dealt with that separates a good school from the rest.
In November 2001 a teacher was discreetly arrested from the class he was taking at the Harrodian. Following this he pleaded guilty at Aylesbury Crown Court in April 2004 to charges of child abuse committed at another school.
One of the victims of this teacher tried to make contact with the Harrodian having been informed by friends who had children at the school, of the explanation given by it for the teacher's sudden departure. This is explained in the BAFTA award winning documentary Chosen which is available online by following the link provided.
The subject is challenging but the documentary received critical acclaim, and great praise from experts in the field. The Harrodian was invited by the production company to reply to Alastair's comments made in the film about his attempt to speak with the head master. It did so through its lawyers. In light of the Alastair's story told throughout this extraordinary documentary, the reply is most interesting. It is for you to reach your own conclusions.
Just stumbled upon this whilst looking for the Harrodian's term dates and am vaguely amused! To all you nittering Mummies out there, this is your children's lives! How academic their school is will NOT necessarily mean they make anything of their lives. I have friends from state schools who have been extremely successful and others who went to Eton and struggle to put bread on the table. Are you looking to elevate yourselves or educate your children, because their are many ways to skin this cat...I for one wouldn't change The Harrodian for any other school. In fact it was always been my first choice!
I can't comment on the school, but it took guts for Davidddd to post his message (knowing that he would be an easy target for someone to shoot down) so hats off to him.
And what about the gorgeous head?????
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