This is the pushy parent Tiffin tutor thread.(468 Posts)
Okay, so wh ohas used a Tiffin tutor? Did it get your kid(s) into Tiffin? How old were they when they strted tutoring?
Okay, so my DD is only 3 1/2 but I like to plan ahead/. I've heard you can sign up for tutors that increase your chances of getting into Tiffin (boys and girls schools).
Any experience/opinions welcome.
The Walshes were famous (and very successful) for their NVR and VR tutoring. But the tests have now changed to a two stage maths and English exam. So I'm not sure they would be the right choice now. There is still some VR in the English and NVR in the maths. But not much.
Get a good 11+ tutor for writing, composition, and maths.
She has retired, as you were told on the other thread you posted on.
Hello! Please could anyone who has the contact number for Mrs Barbara Walsh(Daughter), PM details to me? Will be very grateful. Many thanks
What Secondary school is she / he going to now?
I see Poisonwoodlife beat me to it. What issues do you have with Grey Court Rsmom262003? Its a fantastic school and rated outstanding across the board under the new Ofsted framework. The top sets do fantastically well and are very much stretched academically. I know of a few DC that went on to Tiffin and TGS 6th forms from there in the last few years (before GC had a 6th form) with a clean sweep of A* Not that is all there is to education of course
I have experience of both schools and it amazes me that some people still have such prejudice about Grey Court. Generally its people who have never even been to look at the school and are going on the perception of the school from years and years ago.
RSmom Not so much a blooper as probably wasting your time since BeingFluffy was last here in 2012.
Perhaps go over to the 11+ forum where you might find recent feedback on the tests but honestly please do not subject your child to one of the tutoring factories, parents regret subjecting their child to the misery, and money wasted, subjecting their child to sitting around a kitchen table with 6+ others practising endless tests, those tutors add very little value . A lot of them pre select which make success a self fulfilling prophecy. If you must tutor then find a tutor who will focus on your child and their educational needs, and inspiring enthusiasm for learning or do it yourself. The information on the requirements of the tests is out there. However at the end of the day there is no preparation that will guarantee success in a very competitive process that aims, in what seems to be an imperfect way, to select the brightest.
So do not dismiss Greycourt because of prejudice, it is rated outstanding by OFSTED, has an amazing inspiring Headmistress and the pupils in the top sets do as well if not better than at Tiffin. Look at the results for "high attainers" (assuming your child is one, if not then Tiffin is not a realistic target anyway) not the overall results. Go and have a look, your child might be happier and do better at Greycourt.....
Hello being fluffy ,
This is my first post ,so please please forgive me if I'm writing something incorrect. You'd mentioned the legendary mrs.w for tutoring. Please may I ask her full name. I'm local to the area and am looking for some one for tutoring. I beleive mrs.w retired, but am still curious. Maybe if I had her contact details she could guide me to some one reputable. The whole tutor thing is so confusing. All claim the credit. Please? Am I allowed to ask the tutors details on this board? Have just joined mumsnet today so forgive me if I'm making a blooper
I'm so so received to have found this chat thread. Was feeling like a alien in my school. The other moms in class think I'm wrong to even want my child in grammer school. But with Christ & grey court as the alternative there really is no alternative ! Celia , you mentioned that you knew some one that's good with the tuitions. Pease may I ask the details of the tutors used by any of the moms here. Some one in kingston richmond area would be ideal please. Any suggestions please? I've heard of someone called anna? Who's known for tuitions. Any one have a contact number? Any guidance would be really appreciated. From a very clueless mom.help?
Tiffin Boys is now ALOT easier to get into than tiffin girls as there are 4 exams for TGS but only 2 for TBS. my daughter got into TGS and I would honestly say it is near impossible to get in without the tutoring. I think the tiffin exam is not just a test of intelligence but a test of how much work the child will put in to do well.
I'm desperately trying to remember what uwila namechanged to? Would be intrigued to know where she ended up!
Yes, this thread started so long ago that OP's then 3.5 year old DD will be going to secondary school next September.
The famous Mrs W that Celia referred to (nearly 7 years ago - where does the time go!) has since retired I'm afraid. Also the Tiffin Girls exams changed format significantly last year coinciding with the introduction of (an enormous) catchment area.
I would really love to have the contact details of that Tiffin tutor you mentioned on one of your threads. You kindly mentioned to one mum that if she wanted the name she could "CAT" you - but forgive me as this is my first MN message, so I don't know what CAT means?
Any help would be hugely appreciated!
@Learn about Light : You could say that the "well-known" Tiffin tutors have picked up a trick from Tiffin itself. If you select only the brightest, your outcomes are almost bound to be the best.
People then transfer the credit from the student to the tutor, and a self-sustaining brand is born.
I have a DD1 now in year 8 at the girls' school and can vouch for its well rounded nature. I have a conspiracy theory about tutors which is that they only accept children who would have got even without tutors. Of course, there are strategies for answering verbal, non-verbal, maths and english tests but to get your child up to speed on these strategies are not beyond the grasp of intelligent parents. Child must accept circa 80 mins each day from Year 5 as practice is gold. Some exam practice over the summer holidays would also be beneficial and this can be bought from conventional tuition providers. I hope I am right as I have a DS1 in Y5 who will take the exam in September 13. He is hoping for Tiffin Boys but we would also be happy with the Slough consortium schools.
@ODC "I only have DS so I do hope that Tiffin Boys is not quite as bad as that. I would be interested in your (or other's) views before we give it a go next entry point." DS1 is at TS; what info do you want to know about the school?
Londongirl5, I am sorry you had such a bad time at TGS. My daughter is in year 12 and some of your comments sound familiar.
I especially agree about the school being unable to deal with conflict and bullying; I have personal experience of an incident when the victim was blamed and the perpetrators believed. My DD reports there is a lot of cliqueness and bitchiness in Sixth Form.
My impression was that the pressure for grades comes from other girls (parents?). The teachers I spoke to didn't seem bothered if DD got an A or A*. Yes, a lot seem to be tutored. Some of the teaching is quite lazy and I think teachers at my younger child's comp try a lot harder.
However, on the whole I think TGS has been a good school for my DD. She wouldn't have lasted 5 minutes at the local comp where DD2 goes. The rules in the local comp are a lot more stringent than TGS believe me. She did have the option of moving for Sixth Form but decided to stay on.
Thank you for that view, LondonGirl, and sorry you had such a bad time of it. I have heard it said before about Tiffin Girls.
I only have DS so I do hope that Tiffin Boys is not quite as bad as that. I would be interested in your (or other's) views before we give it a go next entry point.
I just left Tiffin Girls' School and I'm so glad I did! They only girls they allow into the school are either extremely clever, or extremely hard-working (at their tutors). This means that all the girls going to the school will get good grades at GCSE and A Level naturally. Therefore, as all girls will do well anyway, the teachers don't need to bother teaching them properly. The teachers see their only job as making sure every girl gets an A* in everything which leaves no room for creativity, or even a thing called fun, which you don't seem to hear about at Tiffin. The rules are ridiculous, the workload is unbearable, their methods of dealing with bullying are non-existent. Everybody I knew at the school with me hated it and it seems like a massive taboo that the school is, in fact, awful. Now I'm at college my eyes have been opened to the REAL world and I am happier, enjoying working, and making friends with normal people. I just wish I'd never gone to Tiffin in the first place.
Message me for details.
Even with all the tutoring in the world, the reality is that at TGS there are well over 10 applicants for every place. This means that over 90% of applicants will be not eligible for a place.
TGS does not have a monopoly on A* grades or Oxbridge success. Many of the girls who 'fail' their entrance exams will end up doing brilliantly well at another school.
My daughter did appallingly on the VR and NVR papers for this year's TGS entrance exam and has just received two scholarship offers to fantastic Indie schools to which she applied (no tutoring...just plain hard work on her maths and English and around 10 practice papers for the VR and NVR tests)
Of course, the best advantage to TGS is that there are no compulsory school fees!
If you really feel Tiffin is the best school for your child then all the best of luck in preparing (as much as possible to prepare for their tests) but after having taught there and spoken to many girls who go there, it is not the be all and end all of schooling. SOOOOO many excellent options in this region.
I would head over to eleven plus exams. Though I think parents agreed not to post until the last tests had been done, not sure if that is now or when the results are out.
Can I bump this for some more recent experience with the turing and tests... especially as they have changed.
The second test is currently an unknown quantity as this was the first year it was run. I have heard that the hairdressers in Ham Parade (don't know name - I think there are two) are a good source of info about Tiffin tutors and gossip but I cannot verify it! Just an anecdote from another parent!
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