A levels fail

(32 Posts)
hardestdecisionever Wed 11-Jun-14 12:30:13

Hi

Our DD has just sat her A levels and doesn't think she has done very well (although the amount of effort put in may be a part of that!). She has a conditional offer from uni but has already decided to take a gap year.

Is it possible for her to retake yr 13 at a state school? She has been in a private school for 6th form but we are not willing to pay out for the additional year. I realise admissions for state 6th form are probably now over so how would we need to go about this?

Any help or advice much appreciated.

Cocodale Sun 15-Jun-14 21:14:07

My dd has just retaken her maths by having a tutor once a week, twice during the exams. These were retaken at her college as an external candidate, was much more motivated with a university place to work towards and a really lovely young tutor.

Luggagecarousel Sun 15-Jun-14 02:08:39

Both. contact the schools now, and ask if she can apply. Many schools have "closed" and "open" enrolment. Closed is agreed in advance, a conditional offer, which means the student can enrol straight away if they get the results needed. "Open" enrolment is when everyone who has a conditional offer has been sorted out, and any places still empty are open for anyone to apply to.

nobodysbabynow Sat 14-Jun-14 21:57:02

I would get in touch now to talk it over, don't wait till results day.

hardestdecisionever Sat 14-Jun-14 11:34:51

To enrol for a rest year do you take pupils on results day if they bring their results or do people generally need to contact the school and get a place before term ends and results come in? Not sure what is best to do, whether to wait for results or contact the relevant schools sixth forms now?

nobodysbabynow Fri 13-Jun-14 17:53:05

I teach in a 6th Form College and we accept new students to resit a year - the only problems arise when they have done different exam boards to the ones we do.

Whyjustwhyagain Fri 13-Jun-14 11:53:24

Hardestdecisionever - if you haven't already spotted it, go take a look in higher education at a thread titled Ucas/results 2014.
There are some uni admissions tutors on the site, and some up to date info regarding resits and how they are viewed.

link here

Clobbered Thu 12-Jun-14 23:43:05

What is her reason for taking the gap year? She doesn't know for sure yet that she won't meet her offer. Sounds suspiciously like she doesn't actually want to do the work at uni either. I'd suggest she gets cracking now and starts looking for a job. No need to wait until September. Stop paying for stuff and make her realise that she has to get off her butt and do something. And frankly, stop trying to fix her life for her - you coming up with options isn't really the way forward is it? Let her grow up and sort herself out. If she finds some options for herself, maybe she will be more committed to whatever she chooses.

Luggagecarousel Thu 12-Jun-14 23:31:00

hardestdecisionever. How old is your dd. If she is still only 18 in September, she may be able to find a place in a sixth form.

It would depend whether there were spaces in the courses she wants, and whether the school uses the same exam boards.

we do accept students in these circumstances. Competition for places in AS courses is high, but there is always a few who drop out over the year, leaving spaces in A2 classes. Quite frankly, we would rather fill the spaces if we could.

Criteria for government funding changes, but currently, an 18 year old CANNOT be funded to take a course in one institution, if she took a course the same level in that institution already. A different institution would list her as a new student, and get the place funded.

For this rather silly reason, there is a certain amount of swapping round of retake students between schools.

If she is already 19, she has passed the age of free education, and cannot apply.

(Foundation degree years cost £9000)

TalkinPeace Thu 12-Jun-14 17:47:11

I loved my crammer, but know that it cost MORE than school fees for the year.
I did one A level in a term (D to a B) and the other two in a year (E to A and O to C)
Oddly enough none of the people I met there have it on their CVs (including me)

hardestdecisionever Thu 12-Jun-14 08:47:29

Hi ClashCityRocker I don't think your comment is patronising at all, it's totally true. She is hoping that this perfect job will just come along and find her rather than her putting in any effort and going to find it.

I think it is the exams she has a problem with, she was fine going to school, was there on time and always completed assignments etc.

Will have a look at the national extension college to see what her options are with that. Will also look at the internships available and hopefully get her out doing some voluntary work. We do want her tobe happy and get a career that she will enjoy but currently feel annoyed and upset that she seems to have wasted �24k worth of education.

ClashCityRocker Wed 11-Jun-14 23:54:46

Shit. That sounded really patronising...sorry, I didn't mean it to be!

ClashCityRocker Wed 11-Jun-14 23:53:41

Sorry cross-posted.

If you'll forgive me for saying so, it sounds like she wants the good career without putting in the leg-work to get there.

I think you need to take a step back and give her a year to really think about what she wants to do, and what she is prepared to do to get there.

The world is full of people (me included!) who think 'if I could have my time again...' sometimes a bit of time to grow up and mature before you make 'big' and above all, realistic choices about what you want out of life works wonders.

Lilymaid Wed 11-Jun-14 23:47:59

DS went to a "crammer" for his A Levels and enjoyed the experience. Small classes, good teachers who treated the students as adults. And normal school activities - sports, DofE etc. but it would be only worth doing if the DC was motivated. Nowadays these colleges are more like private sixth form colleges and offer a broader curriculum/experience than just exam prep.
If not interested in academic work it is better not to go on to university but to get a job or vocational training. Is she interested in a particular political party?

ClashCityRocker Wed 11-Jun-14 23:47:06

It's all going to come down to how much work she is willing to do and how she feels about doing the work itself. Is it just the actual exams she has a problem with, or is it the long term motivation?

I know on my DN's A2 courses there were a couple of people who were re-sitting the year from different schools, so some colleges do offer this on a full time basis, but if she does struggle with the whole acedemic framework, it may be that work experience or internships will be more valuable to her in the long run.

She might not be in the right headspace yet; it may benefit her to do a couple of years work experience and then go on to a foundation degree.

hardestdecisionever Wed 11-Jun-14 23:45:50

I agree she needs to get out there and actually play an active part in a political party this year if she is serious about wanting to do something in politics. Trying to get her to do anything though always turns into a huge battle. We are more than happy to support her to do an internship in her gap year it's just actually getting her to do anything that requires effort!

Crammer is not an option then as we are unwilling to pay out for more private education when she hasn't used it to its full potential this time.

TinklyLittleLaugh Wed 11-Jun-14 23:42:09

My idle DS did a foundation year at the University of Liverpool. His grades would maybe have got him into a poor university (CDD).

It seems to have worked for him, he did really well in his foundation year and has just completed his first proper year. We were slightly concerned whether he'd keep up academically but everything he's had marked so far has been at least a 2i. I think his A level performance was a combination of laziness and poor teaching.

MagratGarlik Wed 11-Jun-14 23:40:19

Foundation courses can rarely be used for students who didn't make the grade at A'level. They tend to be used for courses such as vet med/med/pharmacy/nursing by people who didn't do suitable A'levels and then suddenly realize that they want to do something different.

Tbh if she is not motivated to work at a private 6th form, a university foundation course, where she would be expected to be extremely self-motivated is not the place for her.

I'd agree with other posters saying a year out to really decide what she wants to do is her best bet. If she is not self-motivated at school, she will not last too long in a university environment.

joanofarchitrave Wed 11-Jun-14 23:35:54

Hmm. If she wants to work in politics, could you support her to do an internship (have a look at working for an mp, or a serious entry-level voluntary role in a campaigning charity? She could probably combine the latter with at least one A-level.

Crammers are expensive colleges where kids go to retake a levels when they have buggered around and there parents can pay. Often used to up grades for Oxbridge entry.

hardestdecisionever Wed 11-Jun-14 23:29:28

What is a crammer? Just a short intensive course?

Foundation course is certainly something to look into. I'm hoping she will be disappointed with her results and that will kick her into gear. She has had her heart set on uni for a while. We even took her round to see her top choices hoping to inspire her. She seemed so keen and loved going around. But just can't seem to get her to focus on the exams.

She has done Economics, government and politics and psychology at a level with the hope of studying politics at uni. I think it will be economics that will definitely need to be retaken and not sure on the others until results come out.

oops! sorry, just saw you don't want to pay out for another year.

The other option, if you can afford it, is to send her to a crammer, like D'oeverbrokes (sp) or Davis College/Mander Portman Woodward etc.

joanofarchitrave Wed 11-Jun-14 22:23:09

I like titchy and why's suggestions.

However, she may also be shocked by this result and suddenly turn things around motivation wise. What A-levels did she do? I did a distance learning A-level with the National Extension College, not too expensive and I thought the materials were good. Tutor time was a little more tricky and I paid at one point for 2 extra revision sessions with a face to face tutor just from the local paper. Exam fees were expensive, but cheapest at the local state school, they were happy to have me as a private candidate.

Whyjustwhyagain Wed 11-Jun-14 22:18:59

They provide a 1 year course that bridges the gap between less good/relevant A levels and a degree in the same subject.
I think they are mainly science/engineering/medicine based.

Do a google search.

They take place at the university, and let you go onto the 1st year of the proper degree course if you successfully complete the foundation year.

titchy Wed 11-Jun-14 22:17:08

No, you still need A levels for foundation years at university. Tbh if she's failed, or scraped Es and isn't particularly motivated to study university isn't the place for her at the moment.

Some time away from education, working out in the big wide world might be more beneficial and help her work out what she wants to do longer term.

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