Maths teacher called my Ds a pain in the arse.

(61 Posts)
dingit Mon 22-Jul-13 15:10:01

Granted, he can be.
He met my Dd on Friday, and said 'I teach your brother, he is the pain in my arse. '

Is it just me that thinks that that is totally unprofessional?

emmystyle Mon 05-Aug-13 19:32:22

I know of a teacher who called a child a dipstick in the playground a few years ago.

Child went home. Dipstick got turned into something v different, d and h. (something your neck holds up)

Parents came in all guns blazing. Steam, fiery breath, about 6 on the Richter Scale.

Witnesses sought. All aged 12.

Parents foreign. Teacher explained 'dipstick' was term of endearment. Not understood. How could anyone call their children something used to measure oil in a car engine??? noooo nooo, must have been Richard's Head.

Teacher exasperated. Went home. Found a box set of only fools and horses with Del Boy calling Rodney a 'dip stick'.

Exhibit A next morning. BBC boxed set produced. Parents recalled. All guns blazing.... "what is zeeeee only foools y hooorrssseeeeees"

dvd played but just at the bit where Del Boy calls Rodney "you plonker".... ahhhhhh wrong bit!

"what is zeeee plonker meansssss?"

More exasperation. Ahhhh You Tube. Type in 'Rodney you dip stick'. Bingo.

I mean seriously, what a waste of time. Now in all fairness, I didn't hear Del Boy go "Rodney, you are a right pain in the ar**" but at least there's no confusion. States just what it says on the tin. Or butt.

Doubt it would come up in the Christmas Special repeat.

ukjess Sun 04-Aug-13 12:02:23

its the tiniest, tiniest bit unprofessional but no big deal- it seems to have been a lighted hearted comment.

Even the calmest, most sensible teacher may say something along those lines over their career.

Its good that you accept your kid is not always an angel- not all parents are willing to.

My son was 'a TOTAL PITA" but he's grown up to be a great guy. smile

dingit Thu 25-Jul-13 14:08:22

Ageofextremes that is exactly what I was trying to say to the teacher! But he just wasn't buying it, he seemed to have a bit of a chip on his shoulder! I'm under the impression that many of the staff are not happy at the academy, they certainly have a fast staff turn over!

AgeOfExtremes Thu 25-Jul-13 13:23:15

"So you think your ds should have been made to do the poorly presented work again, rather than getting a bad grade and learning from that?"

The bad grade isn't going to matter that much to lots of kids whereas being made to do it again is a pain, immediately, and far more likely to be responded to by doing it better the very next time.

Unless there's actually some consequence to getting a bad grade (which would be another way of doing it), if there even is a grade rather than just a tick and a comment, then how is that going to push them to do better next time?

There needs to be some immediate consequence for untidy and incomplete work whether it comes from the parents or the teacher, IMO.

dingit Thu 25-Jul-13 09:35:11

No, it was class work that was incomplete/ a mess, I picked up on it when flicking through his book, the teacher had red pen comments on it.

I guess I would not be upset by his comment to dd if there had not been issues through the year! Time to put it behind us and start afresh me thinks!

curlew Thu 25-Jul-13 08:04:06

If you didn't have the work/questions, how did he do the homework?

dingit Thu 25-Jul-13 08:03:06

We didn't make him do it again as we didn't have the work/ questions, that's why we batted it back to teacher. However we do have test paper, which my DH will do over holidays with him.

Yesterday Ds found out he will have different teacher next year, I know her ( she has been there since I was at the school!) so hopefully we will have better communication.

curlew Thu 25-Jul-13 07:02:36

"I think he is lazy and he has a poor teacher. If I had handed in some of the work he has handed in, unanswered questions, no ruler or compass used, I would have been made to do it again."

If the teacher doesn't make him do it again, why don't you?

antsypants Thu 25-Jul-13 06:58:02

There was a maths teacher at my school who was equally as open with parents, only he was a horror, he would berate, bully and harass pupils, yes, we learned in his class, but out of get of being the one singled out, not out of any willingness.

I know there are people who think learning, no matter how it is achieved is worth it, but when you have a month of being laughed at, bullied and verbally massacred by both adults and pupils it makes for a dire school experience.

I guess what I am saying is that in itself a comment like the one discussed by the op is fairly harmless and innocuous, but coupled with a drastic change in behaviour and attitude (if it is this subject alone) would indicate to me that there may be something other than teenage laziness or attitude going on.

MidniteScribbler Thu 25-Jul-13 05:21:09

I think it was probably a joke. If he really had major issues with your child, I doubt he would have actually said it. Secondary teachers are generally open and relaxed and interact on a more adult level with their students and can say things that primary teachers would never say.

Xihha Wed 24-Jul-13 21:36:49

I don't think theres anything wrong with it so long as it was said in a jokey way.

The head teacher at my son's school is very fond of telling my son that I'm the reason for her grey hairs (she was my teacher a primary school) he's a very shy child, it made him laugh and feel a bit more confident.

pointythings Mon 22-Jul-13 21:30:11

I think it really depends on the teacher and the tone. DD1's Yr5 maths teacher was a long-standing eccentric who said exactly what he meant - he called my DD 'Gobby' as a nickname because she is very a little opinionated and speaks out when people are wrong and not very diplomatically.

But it was said with warmth, DD took it on board and got a lot less judgemental, and this teacher really gave her the confidence to tackle maths which is still showing in the progress she is making today. Was your DD upset, OP?

oohaveabanana Mon 22-Jul-13 21:14:59

I would think it highly amusing if a teacher said this to ds about dd (it would be that way round) She is - a charming, stubborn, wilful, delightful pita & ds would think it very entertaining.

We've had many fabulous descriptions of her already from her wonderful, patient, dedicated teachers, & I look forwards to adding that one to my list

Obviously it all depends in the tone, though. All the teachers I can imagine saying that would totally get away with it.

alreadytaken Mon 22-Jul-13 21:06:02

totally unprofessional to say that to a sibling. Acceptable, even desirable, to say it to a parent but not a child.

A child moved down a set can simply be bored and playing up for that reason or they could be struggling and not want to admit it. If your maths isn't good enough to test him yourself why not try him with a tutor? If he's made to do maths outside school when he does badly he'll work harder in school.

bigTillyMint Mon 22-Jul-13 20:52:30

Thankfully DS's teachers have made it all clear to us - although I don't think any actually used the term - that he can be a PITA.
We are under no illusions.

sweetiepie1979 Mon 22-Jul-13 20:18:36

Ach well I woul say he probably is a pain in the arse and kids should know if they are. I wish I had the nerve to say it about a few of my students instead of the insincere smile I put on at parents evening or indeed when I meet a sibling that I will have to teach. I would say he was honest and it's made your other dc think about what they would like to be known as.

Well, yes, inpropriate- especially or a sibling. Wrong but understandable to say to the parent (and only in a clearly jokey tone) but to his sister?!

ProphetOfDoom Mon 22-Jul-13 19:48:37

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

RonaldMcDonald Mon 22-Jul-13 19:46:23

Sounds like an ace teacher
The teachers who made most impact upon me were just like that

noblegiraffe Mon 22-Jul-13 19:41:06

I would suggest you check his homework and if it is not up to standard, make him redo it yourself before it is handed in. You can give your individual DS's homework more attention than the teacher can.

bigTillyMint Mon 22-Jul-13 19:39:40

If the work was extremely untidy and inaccurate, I hope the teacher would pull the child up on it.

dingit Mon 22-Jul-13 19:36:01

Yes I do flogging, if he was made to do it again, he would think twice about doing it badly again!

Things have changed since I was at school!

Floggingmolly Mon 22-Jul-13 19:33:43

So you think your ds should have been made to do the poorly presented work again, rather than getting a bad grade and learning from that?
Totally unrealistic for a Year 7 student, and not necessarily a sign of poor teaching.

bigTillyMint Mon 22-Jul-13 19:27:56

OK, so definitely see what you can make him knuckle down to and make a plan to have regular feedback next term so that you can keep a close eye on things.

bigTillyMint Mon 22-Jul-13 19:26:48

Yes, I agree, it does sound like he might be struggling. However, he may be being a PITA in class too! I think the only way to find out is to talk to the teacher involved. And maybe ask if there is anything your DS could do over the summer that might help?

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