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Would it be unuausal NOT to look at more than one Primary School for dd1?

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beatie · 26/04/2006 09:32

DD1 starts school in Sept 2007. Last year we made a move out of a city and into a village. It's not a rural village, it's part of a collection of villages which border another city and a town.

DD1 goes to a lovely Pre-school in the neighbouring village and that feeds into a number of Primary Schools in the villages/town. When I visited the Pre-school, the Principal, who is an ex-teacher and run the Pre-school for 40 years said all the infant schools were good in the area.

Last week we went to visit the Infant School down the road from us. It's within 5 minutes walking distance. It's a 1960s build with nice large green playing fields. The school has 5 classes in the Infant School (instead of the 6 it is allowed), due to falling roles across the whole of the county (South East).

My husband and I were impressed enough by this school, it had a nice atmosphere and it sounded like the children were stretched i.e. the HM stressed that the whole class work to an advanced level and children are taken out for Special Needs classes, rather than the top of the class being taken out for special lessons. It seemed small enough for dd1 to cope with and not feel overwhelmed. The headteacher was friendly and approachable. Everything seemed fine to us. Plus, we really like the fact that we can walk dd1 to this school.

BUT, since parents are given a 'choice', I can't help feeling an inclination to make a 'choice' and to make a choice I'd have to look at other schools.

On the one hand, I have heard people say you should choose a school like a house, you just know it feels right. The school we visited felt right (enough) but how would we know without making a comparison? On the other hand, if we go to see any other schools, are we then going to be torturing ourselves, trying to make a decision?

The other school we'd look at is a smaller traditional village school. It is in the same village where dd1 goes to Pre-school. So, I get the impression that the commonly held view is that the small village school is better than our nearest school. But, I don't know why. The parents are perhaps wealthier (house prices are slightly higher in the other village). I imagine that the idea that the other school is better may just be an 'idea', of course, perpetuated by the people from that village whose children go to that school!

I do want dd1 to go to the local school but want to get over the niggling feeling that the other school is 'better'. How can I tell for sure that our local school is 'good enough'?

The SATS are 40% of children achieving level 3 or above at the end of KS2. Is that good? or average?

Can anyone share their experiences of 'choosing' a State Primary School. Thanks if you got this far :) I realise this post reads like a random collection of my thoughts.

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cod · 26/04/2006 09:33

i never looked around ours
it wasnt built

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cod · 26/04/2006 09:35

adn i ll tell you that walking to shcool is the dogs whiskers

a dn sats are a pile ofcrap

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gigglinggoblin · 26/04/2006 09:39

i looked at loads of primary schools, settled on one that felt right, the teachers were all really friendly, nice atmosphere ...and now i want to change because it wasnt right for us after all.

its very difficult to tell until you actually experience what it is like when your child gets into the swing of it. i have to say the only reason i dont like ours anymore is because ds1 has special needs which i didnt anticipate and school are not coping with him

go and look round the other one, at least then you wont be asking 'what if'. i would also recommend asking round - parents are likely to be much more honest than a head teacher who will never tell you their own school is rubbish! if i had asked parents i dont think i would have chosen the one we did

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SoupDragon · 26/04/2006 09:40

The 3 closes schools to us were all much of a muchness in the league table. We saw 2 of them but went with the one tht felt right. Gut feeling is as good an indicator as those stupid leagues tables. The first one just felt wrong for no reason at all.

We also felt that the school we chose was right for DS2 as well. It wasn't the top one of the 3, league wise, but the "best" school results wise may not be best for your child - only you can decide that.

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Bozza · 26/04/2006 09:43

I agree with Cod really. We live in a village. There is another village basically adjacent, they run into each other. Our village has a school with one class per year that is 5 minutes walk away for DS. The other village has a school which is 25 minutes walk away for DS (probably longer coming home because it is uphill). That school is CofE and has class size limits of 25. Anyway we went to look round our local school, really liked the atmosphere although it is a pretty small, verging towards cramped but results seemed OK (hard to tell though because we have middle schools so KS2 SATS taken there). Anyway we decided that for DS to be able to easily walk to school and be with all his friends and we liked the school was enough.

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CountessDracula · 26/04/2006 09:43

I don't know about your council but I think in Richmond you have to put 3 choices. So if you haven't looked at any others you won't be able to do that

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ScummyMummy · 26/04/2006 09:44

You can't tell anything for sure but it sounds like everything you could wish for right on your doorstep. Personally I'd def send her there and if it turns out not to be as lovely as you first suspected look further afield later.

btw Level 3 at end of KS2 is the best you can get, I think. So 40% getting that is great if you like those types of measure. Cod is right that it means v little, imo, though.

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beatie · 26/04/2006 09:45

Our county allows us to put just one school down.

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MrsBadger · 26/04/2006 09:52

Agree gut feeling is the most important thing, followed by walking distance, but you might like to read the Ofsted reports for a bit more detail / professonal opinion than the SATS results (which are indeed a crap measure).

The Ofsted reports also tell you a bit about how the school is funded, governed, organised etc which might make you feel more comfortable and better informed - I always like to get as much information as I can before making a decision on anything, but appreciate I am weird. Grin

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beatie · 26/04/2006 09:55

The SATS results certainly aren't my main concern. THaving a child at school is a new area to me so I have no idea what they mean or indicate.

What other indicators should I look for? How do you read between the lones of an OFSTED report? :)

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cod · 26/04/2006 09:57

loos!
honestly
look att he loos
adn at the dispalys
ak them how htey celebrate success
w hat woud happen if you ahd a problem with friends or work

hwo many staff have beent here for more than 5 years, what the ta to teacher ratios is

what they do ok teachers days off what theri arrange,ents or planning time si ( some shcools have tas covering which i htink is a cop out)

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oliveoil · 26/04/2006 10:02

I am sending dd1 to the CofE linked to her playgroup as she has taken about 2 months to settle there (bit cautious/shy/timid) and then she will have a little squad of friends when she goes to the Big School.

Inlaws still think she is going to go to the Catholic School down the road and are not yet aware that I have turned down her place, shhhhhhhh.

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Uwila · 26/04/2006 10:05

Yes, CD, you are right. The Richmond LEA sort out the choices now. This is the first year for them to do so, as opposed to applying directly to the school. This way you don't have parents accepting places in one school while they wait to see if they got into another school, thus holding a place they may not take.

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foxinsocks · 26/04/2006 10:09

you don't have to put 3 choices down but you have the option to

we just put down one for ds because we knew where we wanted him to go and we knew he would get a place

I would go and see the other school and see what you think. I agree the overall feel is important and if you like your local school, then put it down as 1st choice and if you want, you can always put the other one down as a 2nd choice (though doesn't sound like there will be problems with a place).

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foxinsocks · 26/04/2006 10:10

oh I see you can only put down one school (doesn't give you much choice does it!)

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Uwila · 26/04/2006 10:12

I'd look at the other kids too. Are they well behaved? Do they look happy to be there? Will they be a good or bad influence on your kid(s)?

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beatie · 26/04/2006 10:13

Sorry - I meant you can opt to put down one school. You're not made to put down three choices.

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Bramshott · 26/04/2006 10:15

I am wondering about this too, and haven't even looked at one yet (must get a move on). My initial feeling was that I should look at 2 for comparison purposes, but now feeling that providing the catchment school is okay (have heard good things about it), then surely she should just go there. Also swayed by the fact she would get bussed to our catchment school but if I choose to send her elsewhere I will have to do a 10 mile round trip school run!

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Clayhead · 26/04/2006 10:15

We only looked round one school. It was closest, within walking distance. We liked it, got a good gut feel, the kids and staff seemed happy. All the local primaries have similar results so we went on how we felt and how we thought dd/ds would fit in. Once we had decided this, we didn't see the point of looking at any others further afield.

dd is now just finishing 2 years of pre-school and will start in reception in September. So far, I have had no reason to think we were wrong.

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sandyballs · 26/04/2006 10:55

We only looked at one, which is about a 10 minute walk from our house. Loved it, kids seemed happy, teachers mostly been there quite a while, head very enthusiastic and involved. Heard lots of positive things from parents with older children there, so just decided to go for it.
DD's now well into their recpeiton year and love it - took one of them a while to settle, but I believe that would have been the case anywhere, not just at that school. Walking to school is really great if it is possible.

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cod · 26/04/2006 10:56

yes but you DONt want it staffed by loads of poeple who have been there for years
no innovation imfo

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Uwila · 26/04/2006 11:02

"imfo"?
in my f opinion? Shock

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GDG · 26/04/2006 11:06

I only looked at one. It's our catchment school and it's fabbo, both results wise and facilities/extracurricular wise. I felt no need to look at another school - I grew up locally and this one has been fantastic since I was at primary so I felt pretty safe with the reputation.

Plus, as cod says, being able to walk it is priceless. Parking up and hoiking 3 kids in and out is no fun for me.

If you are happy with the school I wouldn't worry. I felt the same niggle as you actually because I thought I 'should' look at others but I didn't in the end and I'm more than happy with it so far.

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MrsBadger · 26/04/2006 11:08

in my fishy opinion!

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Lucycat · 26/04/2006 11:14

We only looked at one school, it's our local one and we wouldn't haven't got into any of the other reasonably local ones anyway - they are all full, as is my dd's. I asked around, at toddler groups, in the park, the neighbours....parents give you a good idea of what a school is like, and we can walk in 5 mins - it's great!

dh went there as well, so poor dd didn't have any choice anyway!

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