NQT recruited as head of department

(35 Posts)
hardboiled Thu 29-Nov-12 09:44:06

If you were considering a school and saw that they had recruited a NQT as head of one of the sciences departments, would that worry you? Or am I just being narrow minded?

Mutteroo Mon 03-Dec-12 08:47:18

A friend did her PGCE at age 34 and was immediately snapped up as a head of art at a large senior school. I was surprised but knew how talented my friend was so didn't doubt she'd be an excellent department head. Eight years on and she's a Deputy head at the same school.

bakingaddict Fri 30-Nov-12 20:36:30

Sounds to me like he was possibly a lecturer at university but beyond a PhD, I dont think they need formal teaching qualifications.

Maybe he has done his PGCE in order to teach in secondary schools but actually has lots of years teaching undergrads at uni. I hear tenure as a university lecturer is quite hard hence the career change into a secondary school with more chances of promotion

I don't think that you can possibly tell somebody's age from a picture. Particularly some men. I work with one woman who is older than me and continually mistaken for somebody 5-10 yrs younger (grrh) and another man who looks 10 years younger - at least.

GrendelsMum Fri 30-Nov-12 19:44:53

Logging on to say what LoopsInHoops said but she's already said it smile

almapudden Fri 30-Nov-12 19:39:01

I am a HOD in a department that consists solely of me. Next year I am getting a minion grin, I can't wait!

EvilTwins Fri 30-Nov-12 19:13:52

The Head of Music at my school is an NQT. She's also amazing, inspiring and hardworking. She's the only music teacher (small secondary) and reports to me, as Head of Performing Arts. As subject leader, she takes responsibility for schemes of work etc and runs the extra curricular stuff and peri lessons. I do all the grade analysis etc, as that's my job as the overall Head of Drama and Music. I don't see the problem.

MistressIggi Fri 30-Nov-12 15:20:19

hmm

LoopsInHoops Fri 30-Nov-12 15:03:35

Yep, probably. A big, core subject like Science is usually too much for one person. Some schools will have a HoF and at least one deputy, others will have HoDs for Bio, Phys and Chem, then a HoF to oversee the actual running of dept (HoDs do things like curriculum updates, schemes of work etc. )

hardboiled Fri 30-Nov-12 14:44:13

I see, if he is the only biology teacher he would be HoD anyway. Thank you.

LoopsInHoops Fri 30-Nov-12 14:27:38

HoD means different things in different schools, but likely he is the only, or only full time biology teacher, and therefore has control of the biology paperwork. Actual departmental stuff would be handled by the HoF.

madwomanintheattic Fri 30-Nov-12 14:22:58

Awesome!
<preens>

tiggytape Fri 30-Nov-12 14:17:31

Yes madwoman - you are now officially Head of the Treasury Department. Give yourself permission to go home early and have new business cards printed up at once. grin

You are right though - there is probably an overall Head Of Science and the Head of Biology may indeed be the only person in that entire department.

madwomanintheattic Fri 30-Nov-12 14:11:22

It only involves leading other staff if there are other biology staff though. grin

I am a treasurer. Can I call myself head of the treasury department, please? grin

If that is the case, I'd be assuming the school is all fur coat and no knickers.

tiggytape Fri 30-Nov-12 13:59:19

Was he a lecturer at xxxx University?

From a parent's point of view, I would be open to possibility that he has fantastic experience including teaching experience and may not be a 22 year old new teacher. I doubt Professor Robert Winston has a teaching qualification but I can't say I'd be unhappy if he was Head of Biology at my son's school (not that I think you'll be getting Professor Winston!)

But as a member of staff I'd still be puzzled about someone in their NQT year being made HOD purely because of the role entails leading other staff and because the time they'd need for their induction and mentoring would be at odds with taking on managerial duties.

madwomanintheattic Fri 30-Nov-12 13:55:50

Is he the only biology teacher though? grin

We only had one.

And one physics teacher.
And one chemistry teacher.

Etc etc.

What larks to give them all 'head of' titles.

titchy Fri 30-Nov-12 13:55:40

In that case he probably IS the biology department! And will report into the Head of Science overall.

hardboiled Fri 30-Nov-12 13:49:35

He is Head of Biology.

So MistressIggi, if it didn't say he is HOD I would not have posted my question to begin with!

It is exactly as I said, an NQT from xxxx University, joined three months ago and he is the new Head of Biology.

Anyway, I think opinions are diverse, so thank you anyway.

TheFallenMadonna Thu 29-Nov-12 22:55:31

Head of one of the Science departments? Rather than head of Science? If he's a physicist, then he may well have to be head of physics if the department is run that way (mine isn't - we manage key stages/qualifications rather than subjects).

A school you are considering for your children, or to work in?

MistressIggi Thu 29-Nov-12 22:54:42

Where does it say he's the head of a science, though?
Certainly he might be the only teacher of a particular science, with another science teacher as the HOD.

hardboiled Thu 29-Nov-12 22:50:48

Thanks, but I know for certain he is a new recruit. Joined in Sept 2012.

scattergun Thu 29-Nov-12 22:46:38

I would read that as meaning that he came to the school as an NQT, but not necessarily recently.

hardboiled Thu 29-Nov-12 22:40:15

BooksandaCuppa, this is what it says: "Mr. xxx has joined the school as an NQT from xxx University."

lifeintheolddogyet Thu 29-Nov-12 22:09:56

Don't NQTs have to be mentored by an experienced member of department and a member of SMT as part of statutory stuff? Quite odd imo but agree with those who say it depends on prior experience.

BooksandaCuppa Thu 29-Nov-12 21:34:22

Unless, as mentioned, they have been teaching previously unqualified and have now just achieved QTS?

BooksandaCuppa Thu 29-Nov-12 21:33:32

Surely not possible? A HOD would be doing lesson observations with feedback on the staff in their department - how on earth can someone who's not started teaching yet judge/mentor other people's teaching? I think you must be slightly mistaken, OP, and just mean 'inexperience/young' not exactly 'only just qualified'?

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