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What steps should I reasonably expect the school to take to counter bullying?

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Katymac · 21/03/2006 16:57

Well that's it really

I'm meeting the head tomorrow morning to discuss his actions and what he will be doing about the bullying

How should this be handled?

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cece · 21/03/2006 16:59

They should act in line with their anti-bullying policy. Do you have a copy of it?

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Katymac · 21/03/2006 17:00

No - they are arranging for me to have a copy tomorrow

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rummum · 21/03/2006 17:13

I would want the bullies to appologies to my DD and have a stern talking too from the head, and I would expect their parents to be told.
I would like the head to appologise to you and your DD for doubting you both.
I would expect my DD to feel safe at school and to be believed if she say's its happening to her again.

Son and a few friends sang a song about a girl in their class the other day and were all hauled up in front of the Headmaster and made to appologise. (quite rightly so!) I was not told about this and only heard from another mum! I think parents should know what their children are getting up to in school!

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Katymac · 21/03/2006 17:21

Thanks Rummum...I like those

I would want the bullies to appologies to my DD and have a stern talking too from the head, and I would expect their parents to be told.
I would like the head to appologise to you and your DD for doubting you both.
I would expect my DD to feel safe at school and to be believed if she say's its happening to her again.


Any more suggestions (unfortunatley smacking the head is deemed inappropriate)

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Katymac · 21/03/2006 17:40

My father has written a letter and it's a stinker!!

To the Chairman of Governors

Dear

Re DD

The situation of our daughter in relation to her schooling and the events of the last two days have left us with no alternative but to make a formal complaint about the conduct of the School.

We have for a substantial period complained to the School that DD was being bullied and harassed by a small group of school children, with a particular child identified by DD as the leader of the group. Because of a concern about her progress we have had DD examined by a specialist in dyslexia and, informally advised the school that he could find no underlying defect in her capacity and that she was, in his words “bright, bored and bullied”. The root of the bullying must, at least in large part, be racially motivated. Specifically the phrases, “I don’t like Indians.” And “you’re black and ugly.” have been quoted.

We accept that there appears to have been little in the way of corroborating evidence but this is hardly surprising when the complaints made by us have been brushed aside. Given that DD is easily identifiable as from a different racial group it must be obvious to professional teachers that the risk of some sort of bullying based on race would exist and we would have expected matters to be most closely monitored and suitable protection provided for DD.

In fact, firstly DD has been castigated as anti-social for avoiding play with her tormentors and secondly her obvious unhappiness has been quite directly blamed on some dysfunction within our family unit.

The reported bullying incident yesterday involved not only DD but also her best friend in the school and suddenly we have a tentative admission that there might be a problem or, at least, something worth investigating further.

My daughter is not unaware or stupid. She knows that suddenly she is being asked to talk about her position and that this coincides with another child being involved. We can articulate her feeling now much better than she can – “bullying matters only when it’s a white kid being bullied.” DD blames the school for her position and she now clearly blames us as well. The child feels let down by all the adults in her little world and we feel shamed for not having acted sooner and in a more assertive way.

What can we do now? There are real practical difficulties of moving her to another school with the complexities of 11 to 16 versus lower middle and upper schools, which inevitably means a single term in a new school. In any event moving a bullied child just pastes a label on them and invites further trouble. Leaving her at XXXX in a school that has so evidently failed her is not a comforting prospect. We have severe doubts as to will and capacity of the school to manage the situation, either in relation to DD herself or in the failure to spot and act or, worse, passively tolerate children’s adoption of parental and family prejudice.

In response to this formal complaint we have expectations. Firstly we expect that this matter is referred for the most urgent action to appropriate expertise outside the School itself. Secondly that until such time as those persons are in command of the situation that the school simply accepts one little girl’s belief that she has been and is being bullied and manages her time at school in a way that both protects her and works to rebuild her self-esteem.

I trust that this matter will receive the most urgent response. In the event of a delay causing any further distress to out daughter we will withdraw her from the school and repeat our complaint to higher authority.

Yours sincerely






cc The Head teacher


Sorry it's so long Thank you for listening...what do you think?

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Piffle · 21/03/2006 17:53

crikey that is a stonking letter...
Get it sent :)

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Katymac · 21/03/2006 18:08

Can you tell he writes for a living?

It won't make DD feel any better tho'

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Blu · 21/03/2006 18:31

I think Rummums demands are spot on - I would defintitly make thise demands of the Head. Maybe ask your dd what she would like to ask of the head, teachers and others? I think the Head should be asked to assure your dd that she has his full support.

The letter is excellent, too.

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Blu · 21/03/2006 18:32

Katymac - do you think it would make your dd feel better to hear the Head apologise to her?
To hear the bullies apologise?
To hear that the head would now support her?
If so, tell him those are your demands, and discuss them with your dd.

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Katymac · 21/03/2006 18:36

Currently DD's self esteem and confidence is so low, that I'm not sure it will have an impact

She believes she deserves to be treated that way and no apology is going to change that

She also believes that this only came out because of her BF (dd's upset is not worth doing anything about)

I am seriously worried about her mental health in the future

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manitz · 21/03/2006 19:24

just read both your threads and want to say what a fantastic letter. although you say dd's self esteem low I think (what you have said about) her attitude sounds extremely healthy and un-victimlike.

IMO I hate the idea of running away from issues like this and as your letter says moving schools sounds like a non-starter, ie 1 term in new school. They HAVE to sort this out for you. They clearly have been useless but you now have acknowledgement and that's what you've been waiting for. Also I'm not sure about papers at present as wouldn't it identify dd? dunno.

Good luck.

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Goodgirl · 21/03/2006 19:35

Excellent letter - perhaps also copy to the LEA, for the attention of the Director of Education.

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Caligula · 21/03/2006 19:44

Just one thing about the letter - the admission that you feel shamed by not being more assertive earlier is one I wouldn't make, tbh. My basic rule when dealing with authority is to never give them the chance to pick up on a red herring and run with it (to mix metaphors). That admission is an opportunity for the school to patronise you and put any further assertiveness on your part down to guilt and neurosis about how you've handled this in the past. Don't give them an in to do that to you.

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snailspace · 21/03/2006 19:53

I still think that exclusion of the principle bullies for a few days would be good - their apology should come one their return when they have had some time to reflect. I think this is appropriate in this instance as the bullying has been so prolonged and in part at least racially motivated and also gives your daughter a safe period to begin to re-establish herself. There is no way these kids can have possibly not known deep down that their actions were wrong. The trouble with just an apology is that it isn't always very heartfelt - an insincere 'sorry' leaves the perpetrators feeling as if they've 'got away' with it.

Good Luck.

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Piffle · 21/03/2006 20:06

Also, if the bullying is racially motivated, the school have an enormous opportunity to turn it into a positive school wide re education programme
Also if my son or daughter was racially (or any other type of bullying) harassing another pupil I would want to know - have the other parents being notified - often parents can be the reason why kids are so awful, but sometimes, parents are just as shocked and saddened as you are.
I think it needs to be a parental meeting led with the schools unfailing and unequivocal backing of an absolute no tolerance policy on racial harassment/verbal insults.
When my ds was bullied, the local police came in and did circle time with the kids, they learned to tlak about feelings and put themselves in others shoes - role plays, It was very effective in stopping the worst of the abuse.
What is your dd prepared to accept?
Also def 2nd cc ing your letter to the LEA.

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Katymac · 21/03/2006 20:47

Thank you for your thoughts - I am thinking on them

Is the bit about “bullying matters only when it’s a white kid being bullied.” clearly our interrptrtation of her feelings (it couldn't be seen as a quote from her, could it?)

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manitz · 21/03/2006 21:25

why don't you take it out of that section as really it's not relevant with respect to her except that it may reinforce negative self image related to her race.

Instead how about:
It is clear that whilst you have ignored our complaints you have acted immediately on complaints of another family. Whether true or not, it implies that you take more notice of a white child than an indian one. We are concerned about the effect of the underlying message this conveys to our daughter, in fact we are aware that this is troubling her. I would like to know how you intend to explain this to her and will remedy the situation.

I'm not sure that's the best way to express this but I'm being nagged to leave the computer.

It's always a good idea to redraft and redraft. You want the teacher on side and to be completley clear about what you want. I think exclusion (a coupel of days or so) for the bully is right as others have said, particularly because of the nature of the bullying. I also think you shoudl ensure there is no emotion as that will be easier when facing the bully's parent. Be as fair as you can with all sides and the parent (if reasonable) will not just get defensive but be ashamed. If unreasonable then it makes no odds but you will have moral high ground.
hth

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Tortington · 21/03/2006 22:45

think you should ask for the formal complaints proceedure so they cannot later say "yes we got your letter , but no formal complaint was lodged" becuase a "formal" complaint may indeed only be recorded as such if it adheres to the school complaints policy.

sorry to sound arsey - but just thinking ahead for you

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Katymac · 22/03/2006 06:57

Thanks for that ladies - I'm not taking that paragraph out I think I want to shock them

I'm just trying to rejig it a little

I agree Custardo, I must "do" it properly....after all they haven't

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Caligula · 22/03/2006 09:57

I think you should ask what their anti-racism policy is as well. Or diversity policy, or whatever they call it. I would have thought that most schools would have one.

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cece · 22/03/2006 10:16

caligua - I was just goingn to say you need a copy of the anti-racist poilcy as well. All of these racist incidents if reported to teachers should have been logged. LEA usually collate this information to monitor racist incidents in their schools.

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puddle · 22/03/2006 10:22

Katymac - hope this is not too late - as well as an anit-bullying policy the school should have a race equality policy - ours makes specific reference to what the school will do to deal with racist bullying.

HTH

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bucksmum · 22/03/2006 13:26

Make sure you copy the letter to your Local Education Authority as well

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Radley · 22/03/2006 13:29

I have nothing to add unfortunately, that hasn't already been said.

Just wanted to say that I really do hope that you get it sorted for your dd sooner than later. I was bullied all through school and it was a nightmare, but in them days it was ignored. I also know how much it meant to have a supportive family, my dad was my rock.

How old is your dd?

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Katymac · 22/03/2006 18:03

Thanks Guys this is where we are at \link{http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk?topicid=67&threadid=157503&stamp=060322173319\now}

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