Nancy Writebol was disinfecting, and not in contact with the Ebola patients. Now I'm fretting

(124 Posts)
Stratter5 Fri 01-Aug-14 12:15:54

And Dr Brantly was experienced and wearing protective gear. I'm scared now, it seems easier to catch than I thought. Just what are the chances of a newly infected person getting on a plane out of there, not realising they're sick, and are they infectious at the 'cold/flu' stage, what if they sneezed in someone's face on the plane?

gordyslovesheep Fri 01-Aug-14 12:37:02

you could get hit by a bus tomorrow - calm down

chesterberry Fri 01-Aug-14 12:42:40

Of course it's possible, but the likelihood of it happening is low. You're not contagious until you start showing symptoms but even if a person with ebola symptoms got a plane to the UK, and sneezed in the faces of the three passengers sitting around them and they injested the bodily fluids and caught Ebola it's unlikely to become an epidemic over here.

In the UK we have better access to health care, antibacterial hand-gels, isolations rooms, antibiotics etc. We would be able to control it in the numbers that are likely to come over here.

You should probably be more worried about dying from influenza or in a car crash or catching HIV from blood on a toilet seat.

chesterberry Fri 01-Aug-14 12:43:29

(the latter also being highly, highly, highly improbable)

LetsFaceTheMusicAndDance Fri 01-Aug-14 12:43:58

You are more likely to be killed by a champagne cork in the next couple of months than by Ebola.

(Says the woman who completely freaked out about bird flu)

HeySoulSister Fri 01-Aug-14 12:49:20

Well it's a reality

NHS have had 'meetings' about it

Was reading about the Sierra Leone team at the commonwealth games, they don't want to go back! Don't blame them

ikeaismylocal Fri 01-Aug-14 12:53:16

They were also living in a community with high ebola rates, they could very well have become infected by the person at the local shop or someone staying in the same accomodation as them, it wasn't neccerssarily from their patients.

gordyslovesheep Fri 01-Aug-14 12:57:47

OMG people are having 'meetings' - we are all doomed hmm

Stratter5 Fri 01-Aug-14 12:59:14

I know, I just keep reading that it's incredibly difficult to contract from ordinary, day to day actions. And it's my fret thing, I'm trying really hard to keep a lid on it, but it keeps getting away from me. sad

CalamitouslyWrong Fri 01-Aug-14 13:02:01

The NHS having meetings about something doesn't mean we are all going to catch it and die. They're doing contingency planning so that, in the extremely unlikely event they have cases of Ebola to treat and contain, everyone won't catch it and die.

Stop panicking.

LetsFaceTheMusicAndDance Fri 01-Aug-14 13:07:09

Are you able to swap frets? Genuine question. Or if you fret about something more likely to happen, will that make the fret thing worse?

HeySoulSister Fri 01-Aug-14 13:49:01

Well the human race has to die out somehow!

brainwashed Fri 01-Aug-14 13:51:43

Yeah, but it's not going to be by Ebola...too inefficient!

brainwashed Fri 01-Aug-14 13:51:56

Yeah, but it's not going to be by Ebola...too inefficient!

Purpleflamingos Fri 01-Aug-14 13:57:29

If it helps at all. I was on the emergency list of staffing for our local crematorium during the bird flu outbreak with training given. It was all contingency planning and I wasn't called up, in fact the only person that I know had bird flu was a lovely hypochondriac relative and I'm almost pretty certain it was just normal flu.

That's what management do in local councils and NHS. Mist of their plans are never needed.

HeySoulSister Fri 01-Aug-14 13:58:27

Would our NHS even cope, they are always saying they are pushed to capacity. It would be a test that's for sure

Thenapoleonofcrime Fri 01-Aug-14 14:01:51

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2144409-Ebola?pg=1

This thread is pretty helpful and has lots of interesting information.

My fret is flu, not Ebola, given we know how easily it spreads and given it has wiped out millions of people in an outbreak in the last 100 years. That's much more realistically likely to affect you- although the swapping of these frets is probably not helping!

CalamitouslyWrong Fri 01-Aug-14 14:04:07

SoulSister: I'd suggest reading fewer tabloid newspapers. The NHS will be fine in the unlikely event that someone incubating Ebola gets off a plane at Heathrow.

dancingwithmyselfandthecat Fri 01-Aug-14 14:04:10

The NHS would cope. "Pushed to capacity" means pushed to deliver everything they are expected to against current expectations with existing resources.

Ebola or any other crisis would alter the equation around both expectations and resources. Routine procedures would be cancelled. Pretty much anything not critcial would be cancelled. This would free up space and money. The Govt would also pump more money in. Other public services eg the army would also be drafted in to give assistance.

Stratter5 Fri 01-Aug-14 14:38:00

I already have Flu Fret, zombies don't scare me, ghosts and ghoulies don't scare me, it's pandemics that scare the fuck out of me; oddly not the disease, but the aftermath, and break down of society.

I have an overwhelming urge to stockpile and bunker down, not helped by end of the month fuck all in my bank account syndrome.

KnittedJimmyChoos Fri 01-Aug-14 14:40:37

I think you have every right to fret, the WHO is and cobra met to discuss it, airports on high alert etc..

FairPhyllis Fri 01-Aug-14 14:41:45

If it gets over here (extremely remote possibility) it will be pretty easy to contain it beyond the initial cases. A big part of the problem in W Africa right now is that a lot of people don't trust Western medicine and so don't present for treatment when they start showing symptoms. Or their relatives actively prevent them from getting treatment. This is not going to happen in the UK.

Another big problem in W Africa right now is basic infection control. People are washing the bodies of people who died from Ebola. That isn't going to happen here. It would not get the opportunity to spread beyond a few early contacts.

LetsFaceTheMusicAndDance Fri 01-Aug-14 14:46:56

I don't know whether this would make the fretting better or worse tbh, but would making a 'what if' plan help? If you do that and then at the start of it, write down the point at which you'd start to put your plan into action, when you catch yourself fretting, you can just tell yourself that it's not time to worry because the situation has not reached your trigger point yet.

LetsFaceTheMusicAndDance Fri 01-Aug-14 14:49:04

I'm suggesting that because I think the fretting is more of a difficulty to you than the ebola. If logic and reassurance don't calm it down for you, maybe facing it head on will help.

RobinHumphries Fri 01-Aug-14 14:53:34

The NHS would cope? Don't make me laugh! The NHS can't cope at the moment anyway let alone if a virus with a 70% death rate, no cure and no vaccine was let loose in the country! Swine flu worried them enough and that was nothing in comparison.

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