2013 6 Nations

(46 Posts)
GiveMeSomeSpace Mon 28-Jan-13 18:58:47

Another year, another 6 Nations. So roll up ladies and gents - tell us about your team and your hopes and fears for the next few weeks.

I'm counting down the days. We should on for a good one!

Looks a lot closer this year, should be a great tournament!

GiveMeSomeSpace Tue 29-Jan-13 22:42:39

It's all up in the air - that's for sure. Lots of change in all the teams.

England coming off a new year with a new team. Scotland in the same position England were a year ago. I, for one, want to see a good contest on Saturday.

mikey9 Wed 30-Jan-13 20:33:27

As an Englishman living in the Highlands with a Scots wife and two scots born boys - it is always an interesting Calcutta cup.
A admit I just like a good game (or three) of rugby over 6 nations weekends. I also get loads of ironing done whilst watching (my trade off for spending hours in front of iPlayer!!)
I like watching the Irish and Welsh play - always support the Italians and Scots against anyone - except of course against England - who just make me nervous.
(In any sport of course - anyone against the Aussies.....;-)

GiveMeSomeSpace Wed 30-Jan-13 20:54:39

Watching it up there sounds like fun Mikey.

I think there are enough new boys and changes in the England team for this to be very unpredictable. Will be interesting to see how Marler does against the Scottish beefcakes. If he struggles in the set piece, I think it could really unsettle in the English in the wider game.

mikey9 Wed 30-Jan-13 21:56:41

I have still got the Guardian Sport section from the day last yr of the All Blacks game that headlines "Is this the Greatest All Blacks team ever".

I think that one was answered by England.......was great to watch!

GiveMeSomeSpace Thu 31-Jan-13 07:23:55

I'll have to dig out a copy of that article and get it framed. I went to the game with my brother - at best was hoping for a respectable performance and nothing too embarrasing. I'm not sure I fully appreciated the whole thing because it felt like I was in a dream. Absolutely marvellous!

I don't know much about the quality of reporting in other supports, but I must say the rugby press is pitiful. Sometimes I go to a game and wonder if the reporters have been watching the same game, so bad is the analyisis. I don't know about you, but I do enjoy buying the papers the day before/day of the game and comparing the tripe with post match reports by the same journos on the following day - Really shows just how little what they know they're talking about.

Daddelion Sat 02-Feb-13 15:03:35

Anyone watching?

I think Wales will lose by a point.

GiveMeSomeSpace Sat 02-Feb-13 17:33:51

To be fair Wales came back well, but too little too late....

Impressed by Scotland I must say. This last 10 mins could be interesting.

Daddelion Sat 02-Feb-13 17:43:43

And England won, so very happy.

Ireland away next week will be tough.

GiveMeSomeSpace Sat 02-Feb-13 17:51:49

Happy with that result for England. Very impresed with Farrell. Lots of errors on both side but a great game to watch. Also impressed with a lot of Scotland's play.

I must say I'm starting to get a bit excited about the youth and depth in the England squad.

Nice to have the first game wrapped up. Roll on Sunday 10th and Ireland!

gwenniebee Sat 02-Feb-13 17:53:06

An interesting Calcutta Cup in our house - married to a Scotsman and our dd is 6mo so the first time she had to choose sides! Obviously, she chose the right one...

GiveMeSomeSpace Sat 02-Feb-13 17:53:53

Agreed Daddelion - Dublin will be a hard game. Ireland are looking very strong.

GiveMeSomeSpace Sat 02-Feb-13 17:54:48

Glad to hear it gwennie

Daddelion Sat 02-Feb-13 19:16:07

Wales were awful first half and good second half.
Ireland the opposite.

I thought England were good, Scotland were better than last time.

France to win tomorrow.

mikey9 Sun 03-Feb-13 10:12:18

Great start to the 6 nations. That Ireland Wales game was the pick of the matches yesterday - some amazing Irish defence and (from an English perspective) some encouraging frailties on both sides.

If France are challenged by the Italians today then we should have a great 6 nations with no dominant team.

Certainly, given the usual Scottish inability to capitalise on mistakes - England weren't that dominant really. Some encouraging performances from the young entrants into the England squad - and Owen Farrel is becoming a real Wilkinson like Metronome - hope he can tackle as well as Wilko did too.

GiveMeSomeSpace Sun 03-Feb-13 16:54:54

Have you ever seen anything like that!! Italians truly fantastic - unbelievable stuff.

Game on 2013 6 Nations!!

gwenniebee Sun 03-Feb-13 17:04:27

How exciting. Think dd may have decided she is Italian, though, as she was much more involved in today's match than yesterday's.

mikey9 Sun 03-Feb-13 22:47:41

Ahhhh - just caught up on iPlayer - and finished the ironing! Italy great (for them) - France (very Poor - however who is betting they will be back next week with a huge performance?)

Scotland Italy next weekend - previously would have been the Wooden Spoon contect but this year - who knows?

After 2012 being a great sporting Year (Wiggo and Sky in the Tour de France, and the Olympics in general) there was always the fear that this year could be a let down - but the 6 nations really looks like it will kick the year off nicely.

shonun Tue 05-Feb-13 23:14:16

dont remember 3 exciting games of freeflowing rugby in the 5/6 nations... sometimes stodgfy, always passionate. i would have said it was the lions effect, but italy were quick out of the blocks and creative in attack... hope it continues.
was great to see twelvetrees do so well on debut, hope he lines up with a fit manu against ireland, and we do something about brown and goode who underperformed... then i would have hope of a win... at the moment i am 60-40 on ireland winning a close game.

GiveMeSomeSpace Wed 06-Feb-13 09:18:22

I think Ireland and England are fairly equally matched although Goode and Brown will need to tighten up on defence otherwise we are stuffed. Also slightly worried that Marler is going to struggle a bit.

On a plus side, I think that Launchbury and Parling, plus the depth of our bench may well be the difference. If our biggest dilemma is which one of Twelvetrees, Manu and Barritt to keep on the bench, things really can't be that bad. (Should be Barritt IMO)

I think both teams know that it will be about hitting the game at full pace from the whistle and keeping up pressure for the full 80 mins. I also think both teams are capable of that, so by all accounts, we are on for a belter!

Fortyshadesofgreen Thu 07-Feb-13 13:42:20

Injury worries for us ahead of the showdown with England. With little Keith and D'arce with late fitness tests then we may have to reshuffle with McFadden and Bod in the centres - thats not a bad shout though - even better for me would be BOD 12 and Cave 13 - thats provincial bias though wink

The doomsday scenario for me is D'arce is crocked, Earls is selected at 13 with BOD 12 and Manu will have his hat trick in the first half.....

God how we will miss POC and Fez.... sad

Daddelion Thu 07-Feb-13 15:01:03

The big difference is Bod. He's a legend and a talisman.

England will need to stop him to win the game.

amillionyears Thu 07-Feb-13 20:39:02

Am just testing this to see if it appears on MN active convos.
Daddelion will understand.

amillionyears Thu 07-Feb-13 20:40:09

ooh, so it does!

Dont mind me.
Thanks.

Daddelion Thu 07-Feb-13 20:42:40

Who said that?

amillionyears Thu 07-Feb-13 20:45:00

grin

shonun Fri 08-Feb-13 00:13:40

bod is awesome, and seems to just get better and better... that beautiful pass to zeebo... i fancy manu to keep him quiet more than 12trees tho.
am visiting my new niece on sunday, thing is my 17month daughter sleeps from 1230 to 3pm, so my brother has promised to record it so we cann watch on delay, anthems and everything while the wives and daughters hang out... he'd better not mess up the sky plus doodah, or there will be hell toupé!

GiveMeSomeSpace Sat 09-Feb-13 19:01:05

Well done Scotland & Wales. Much better performances for both teams. Shame to see Italy playing in a lower gear. But........

....... how awful were France. Tournament favorites 8 days ago and now bottom of the table and only team without a win. They are all over the shop. If there is one thing you can predict about the French, it's their unpredictability!

mikey9 Sat 09-Feb-13 23:24:23

Wow - Scotland
- Scored multiple tries
- didn't fail at the last pass
- didn't crumble when the pressure was on
- scored loads and WON CONVINCINGLY!!!

That is defo not in the script - but did get me shouting at the telly.....

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And - after all the drudgery - the Wales France game finally took off for the last 10 mins - and what wonderfull fininshing from G.North. The way he rode the oncoming tackle JUST enough to ensur ehe could get in the corner - - have been waiting to see that lkind of finishing for some time ;-)
ANd what a result...

Only England Ireland - and what a classic that promises to be - over the ironing tomorrow on iPlayer

;-) Happy chappy here.
Now off to see if Cavendish won the TOur of Quatar to kick of 2013 the year of British drug free cycling victories

GiveMeSomeSpace Sun 10-Feb-13 08:21:11

Yep - the Scots seem to be pulling it together with some lovely attacking rugby. Scotland tries in previous 6N tournaments:

2010 3, 2011 6, 2012 4, compared with 2013 6 after 2 games.

Very good for the competition! Fearless rugby is just so good. And fearful rugby is just so dire (eg Wales AND France for first 60 mins of yesterday's game)

GiveMeSomeSpace Sun 10-Feb-13 17:23:11

Well, that was a grind - but a win against a very strong side. Onwards.....

mikey9 Sun 10-Feb-13 21:55:58

Pffooot - England deserved that just - seemed to deal with most things Ireland could throw at them ecxcept:

- Lineouts - not contested in any way - and then poor at dealing with the Irish rolling maul
- Scrum - just held firm when it matterred - which was enough today.

Surprising to see none of the usual Irish back flair - yes I know it was miserable and wet - but that doesn't usually stop them.

Nothing like the preceding 5 games - but there has to be a drudge match somewhere.

That must be the hardest game over with - although whenever I say that......(France and Wales......hmmmmm?)

shonun Tue 12-Feb-13 22:14:25

Ire-Eng could never be flashy given the conditions. was surprised by the Irish handling errors but pleased Eng are learning to win ugly as well as flashy (like a certain side from 10yrs ago). Ireland and Wales (and maybe Scotland) can still win it though... especially with Frances unpredictability, surely they cant play badly 3 games in a row? With a 2 week break for them to get confidence back, if the weather is good then Eng-Fra should be exciting, but the French do have a strange fear of Twickers so i go for Eng to win a high scoring game.

Fortyshadesofgreen Wed 13-Feb-13 13:18:01

Hmmm.... I am going to go for France to beat England as the French will pick a proper team and stop putting players out of position. Will be close but I think the packs will be evenly matched and the difference will be in the centres. Only if the French pick half backs who are in form and playing in position though !

Going to go with the head and say the Jocks to turn us over in Murrayfield. I think it will be a close game though. Murrayfield is usually a happy hunting ground for us, but I think that Scotland will come at us all game long and with increasing confidence will shade the game.

And Wales to beat Italy but again in a close game in Rome. If the Welsh pack don't front up though, then Italy by 5-8 points.

I am trying to forget about the game on Sunday, but England played the conditions much better than we did and shaded the win. I am still not happy about the reffing of the breakdown, but again England played the ref better than we did too especially in the first half.

I know he sin binned Haskell but in the circumstances he couldn't do anything else, he didn't release the tackled player, then to make sure the ref saw that, he dragged the tackled player with him as he wriggled out and then just to make sure he had been seen, he played the ball.....

Contradictionincarnate Thu 21-Feb-13 16:49:37

very excited about the Italy came but don't think its going to be cut and dried at all!

GiveMeSomeSpace Fri 22-Feb-13 09:21:52

I think the Wales will walk it now that Parisse has been banned. Real shame for the tournament.

Very excited about the England France game. Will be quite a bit of crash bang rugby I think. I still think we'll win - but it's gonna be a tough one.

GiveMeSomeSpace Sat 23-Feb-13 07:37:24

Two weeks is too long to wait.......

Suspect Italy Wales will be a bit one sided, but apart from that, we've got two huge games to look forward to this weekend. Suspect Scotland are going to push Ireland very hard and England France today is going to be HUGE

shonun Sat 23-Feb-13 09:21:13

predicted winners:
wales by 15+, growing in confidence as the game goes on, with italy missing parisse's cleaning-up and go-forward
england by 3-6 in a high scoring match, showing composure against an improved french side
ireland by 10, bouncing back from home defeat and keeping alive a mathematical chance of 6 nations victory

GiveMeSomeSpace Sat 23-Feb-13 18:47:37

"Robshaw not a specialist open side" hmmmmm....... think people might be changing their opinions fairly soon, if not already

GiveMeSomeSpace Sun 24-Feb-13 18:33:47

Well shonun what dya make of that? Scotland: 26% possesion and 29% territory and they still won. Find me another test match ever won on those metrics. Great performance by all accounts.

GiveMeSomeSpace Fri 15-Mar-13 22:01:53

So here we are. The final showdown is here - it's gonna be a belter and it's just too close to call. I'm just so frickin excited!

Dadthelion Sun 17-Mar-13 17:14:34

Well, England were blown away and Wales were magnificent.

Ashton shouldn't have played.
Shouldn't play a winger at fullback.
Play a proper No. 8 and move Wood back to flanker.

Find a decent Loosehead.

GiveMeSomeSpace Sun 17-Mar-13 22:35:04

Yep agree - very disappointing but Wales were simply fantastic. I don't think England are as bad as most seem to make out now.

Agree Ashton has had his chances. He and Brown were just so sterile and ineffectual.
Loosehead = Corbiosero

All in all, for a young and relatively inexperienced team, things aren't as bad as some would make out, but yesterday's game was a wake up call to all that got carried away with the hype.

Bring on the summer and Aus!

Childrenofthestones Fri 07-Jun-13 21:36:05

OP, tell the truth. Did you start this thread so that we could have just one that wasn't being over run by women? grin

Beatrixparty Mon 27-Jan-14 18:59:01

Time to revive this old thread. I do love the 6N

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