How does it feel tone in here?

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kickassangel Mon 13-Aug-12 22:43:23

I'm just pooling around on my iPad, wasting time, when I realized that Dadsnet is in the club section of mn and wondered how people felt about that?

Would it be more relevant to be in the parenting section, or does there even need to be a separate section?

Just curious, really, but it sort of feels like being a Dad is some kind of hobby group you might sign up to on a Thursday evening, when I suspect that really it's part of everyday life.

kickassangel Mon 13-Aug-12 22:44:20

Pootling, not pooling.

And any other auto-corrects I haven't spotted.

Snorbs Tue 14-Aug-12 11:02:12

Honestly? Couldn't care less.

Arguably there is no real need for a separate section for dads but you could say that about at least half of the topics in the list.

MrGin Tue 14-Aug-12 11:07:09

Can't say it really bothers me as such.

But..................but.................. I do feel that something more could be done to encourage dad's to join up to MN.

Clearly the name is a bit of a barrier for most and I don't think the majority would be happy if more dads started turning up.

kickassangel Tue 14-Aug-12 15:03:51

Sorry about typo in the title, should have read 'to be' not tone.

I just wondered how much thought and discussion went into where this section was.

And how do dads feel when women post here? I have seen some comments which imply that women are less welcome in this section. Personally, I prefer to think anyone can post anywhere. I mean, there are loads of posters who aren't even parents, so why have the implied barrier of dads v mums, although I see this as an attempt to make this more male friendly.

At least you don't have sub sections on car maintenance, football and mowing the lawn.

I agree about the name, but it's mainly historical, and parents net just doesn't sound the same.

MrGin Tue 14-Aug-12 15:50:30

I haven't seen any comments about women not being welcome in here, plenty do post, and to be honest it's so quiet in here I think we're all chuffed when a woman ventures in as long as it's not to tell us we're all entitled misogynistic bastards grin

Changlingz Tue 14-Aug-12 16:12:19

I've never seen a comment about women not being welcome in here either.

MrGin Tue 14-Aug-12 16:18:08

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UnimaginitiveDadThemedUsername Wed 15-Aug-12 11:34:15

Oh I wish I'd seen that!

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UnimaginitiveDadThemedUsername Wed 15-Aug-12 12:42:21

Not just the threads - MNHQ pointedly renamed the FWR sub-folder

"Feminism/Women's Rights CHAT"

and made a RadFem sub-folder for the my-way-or-the-highway clique.

Talk about shooting yourself in the foot with both barrels!

madas Wed 15-Aug-12 13:00:18

Cant we have a rad dad section lol

MrGin Wed 15-Aug-12 13:27:24


I like the sound of that. I quite like the idea of a lawn moving section too.

dranksinatra Wed 15-Aug-12 13:34:01

Rad dads for the win!

kickassangel Wed 15-Aug-12 15:22:40

Gin, I would love to see you moving a lawn.

I don't want to name people, but I have seen quite a few 'oh here come the women' or 'why are women on Dadsnet' type things.

But it seems strange to me that you are in chat. I mean, the only time you really need a separate section is to discuss what it's like to parent as a father rather than a mother, so it seems sensible to have you in the parenting section.

I'm quite sure that a lot of 'manly' topics would be popular with women as well, though we'll happily skip mowing the lawn and taking out the trash.

MrGin Wed 15-Aug-12 16:10:12

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madas Wed 15-Aug-12 16:36:54

I had curry btw a very tasty koh e avad mmmmmmmmmmmmm.

I answer threads as a mum, not dad, hope that's ok grin

madas Wed 15-Aug-12 16:45:43

I have no problem with who posts here tbh and as MrG said there is a difference in the male and female psyche.

AnyFucker Wed 15-Aug-12 16:48:00

This place 'ere Dadsnet

Can't you think up some original stuff to talk about ?

8, count 'em 8 posts in to this thread, and it's another opportunity to slag off the "RadFems" taken up with some relish and gusto

The OP wasn't even about feminism. It certainly wasn't about pitting Dadsnet against RadFems.

So why do you keep making it so ?

I always look at the Dadsnet posts. I sometimes join in (and under other names wink ). I sometimes contribute to the bunfights. I would welcome more male posters on MN. But this "we daren't post because the horrid RadFem posters might come and get us" is getting a bit old.

Your continued delight at FB-gate does you no favours, and in actual fact, most of the "RadFems" to which I know you refer had absolutely no involvement in it.

Now you will think I am "stirring up trouble" of course. But you know what, you keep bringing it up. For no reason.

Changlingz Wed 15-Aug-12 16:55:13

From what I've read of radical-feminism I think there are very, very few Radfems on Mumsnet.

They mainly seem to be liberal-feminists.

Dittany was the main radfem but she doesn't appear to post anymore.

I think radical-feminism is anti-father and should be challenged at every opportunity.

madas Wed 15-Aug-12 16:57:33

But if people want to discuss radfems whats the problem ?

MrGin Wed 15-Aug-12 16:59:17

madas will you be having Risotto this week ?

Changlingz Wed 15-Aug-12 17:00:31

Good point madas.

It's an open forum, this is a very obscure part of it, as long as it's in the guidelines we can discuss what we want.

So radical-feminism what do other dads (or whoever) think about it?

AnyFucker Wed 15-Aug-12 17:00:35

there isn't a problem, madas, but I would question why the same stuff from months ago keeps getting dragged up out of nowhere

and from this particular opening post to slagging off Feminism regulars within 8 posts seems, well, pretty tiresome

I get that it's a minority view though

KickTheGuru Wed 15-Aug-12 17:01:03

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AnyFucker Wed 15-Aug-12 17:02:56

this feed appears on "Active Conversations" so it's not "obscure" in that sense

not well-trafficked, no

perhaps if there was less whinging about the Feminism regulars, you might get people more interested in coming for a chat about risotto'n'stuff

just a thought < ever helpful >:

Changlingz Wed 15-Aug-12 17:09:12

You can hide Dadsnet you know.

There's little traffic because not many men post on MN.

And when they do they get other posters telling them what they should or shouldn't discuss.

KickTheGuru Wed 15-Aug-12 17:10:03

Yeh so you will watched on what you say and then pounced on if it's not to the made-up forum guidelines...

If it is, you may continue your manly risotto conversation without much confrontation.

But we will be watching you wink


AnyFucker Wed 15-Aug-12 17:16:09

I don't want to hide Dadsnet

I think it could be an interesting place, certainly there is lots more potential than to keep re-hashing the same ole resentments

I wouldn't dream of telling anyone what they can and can't post < removes Thread Police badge > of course.

Carry on slagging off posters who aren't even here. It's the way forward smile

madas Wed 15-Aug-12 17:16:33

It will be smoked haddock rissotto night on friday with a nice chilled chablis.

KickTheGuru Wed 15-Aug-12 17:18:20

Erm - it's done constantly in mumsnet...

Slagging off other threads and things said in other threads.

It's only allowed to be done by women though.

S'like that "10km Ladies Only" running race that men can't do that isn't sexist at ALL if a woman does it.

MrGin Wed 15-Aug-12 17:22:34

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KickTheGuru Wed 15-Aug-12 17:23:34

Not me. I'm on your side here

KickTheGuru Wed 15-Aug-12 17:24:01

I come with a sarcastic font that I forget to use

MrGin Wed 15-Aug-12 17:28:44

It will be smoked haddock rissotto night on friday with a nice chilled chablis.

Nice. I usually follow Rick Steins seafood risotto recipie here

It's awesome.

MrGin Wed 15-Aug-12 17:29:44

< hands KickTheGuru a glass of Chablis >

AnyFucker Wed 15-Aug-12 17:31:44

side, guru ?

what "side" ?

< sigh >

this wasn't a thread about people being put off posting in Feminism (big yawwn, blah blah) though was why are we talking about that ?

my point entirely

Changlingz Wed 15-Aug-12 17:34:00

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AnyFucker Wed 15-Aug-12 17:34:26

Relationships topic, on a female dominated site, when human nature tells us that people primarily talk about bad relationships not good ones, is going to "whinge about men"

By that token, MrG, you are saying that Dadsnet exists primarily to whinge about Feminism

Is that what you are saying ?

KickTheGuru Wed 15-Aug-12 17:35:08

I have never heard of Rick Steins. shock

Is this bad?

My husband is about to come home and I am neither pregnant, not in the kitchen (although I don't have shoes on) and I've not cooked him a meal.

Crap. I am going to wife hell.

Is it wrong that I find it a strangely powerful position to be in??? grin

AnyFucker Wed 15-Aug-12 17:35:22

Relationships topic is never quiet. Unfortunately.

MrGin Wed 15-Aug-12 17:37:00

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AnyFucker Wed 15-Aug-12 17:37:45

Bringing up old resentments out of the blue is not shit stirring, oh no. No sirree.

Changlingz Wed 15-Aug-12 17:39:02

This is pathetic.

KickTheGuru Wed 15-Aug-12 17:40:18


That risotto does look lush. I think I am about to chuck a rack of lamb into some boiling water to defrost it.

Then going to do what my husband does when I am at work and quickly leg it around cleaning up and pretending I've been busy as all hell all day!


MrGin Wed 15-Aug-12 17:43:40


The Rick stein takes about two hours to make grin

MrGin Wed 15-Aug-12 17:44:41

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AnyFucker Wed 15-Aug-12 17:45:09

Isn't it, changlinz ?

KickTheGuru Wed 15-Aug-12 17:45:30

Sensing marital disharmony if I start cooking something now that will take 2 hours.

I can create a diversion by just yelling at him as he walks through the door though?? ;)

AnyFucker Wed 15-Aug-12 17:46:13

MrG, are you telling me I should stay on the Relationships board ?

Changlingz Wed 15-Aug-12 17:48:17

You seem to be desperately trying to start a confrontation.

MrGin Wed 15-Aug-12 17:48:27

My quick disk suggestion is a chicken and creme fresh pasta.

Bit of butter in the pan, garlic, lemon sage, and some cooked chicken breast in thin slices. Once the chicken bits are turning brown add the creme fresh, a little bit of lemon and salt / pepper and viola !

Takes about 10 mins.

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KickTheGuru Wed 15-Aug-12 17:49:40

Ironically, I made a massive batch of exactly the same on Monday - added some bacon to it and have been eating it ever since!

I have a lovely rack of lamb though that I think I will cook for dinner.

I have a fabulous husband so I think he deserves a nice meal tonight smile

OwlLady Wed 15-Aug-12 17:51:11

this section was set up for pan
years ago

back in the old days when people were less argumentative

AnyFucker Wed 15-Aug-12 17:53:34

Those deflection skills need a bit of spit'n'polish, MrG

Enjoy your risotto

AnyFucker Wed 15-Aug-12 17:54:38

Was it, Owl ?

That's interesting. I know he's been here for yonks. Did he talk to himself at first then ?

AnyFucker Wed 15-Aug-12 17:55:33

wasn't there a fella called UnquietDad who hung out here (and elsewhere) too?

I bet he was a pioneer of Dadsnet also smile

MrGin Wed 15-Aug-12 17:56:22

God , how long has Pan been here ?!

AnyFucker Wed 15-Aug-12 17:58:15

You GinnyComeLatelies don't know the half of it wink

KickTheGuru Wed 15-Aug-12 18:00:01

>>I am a ginny-come-lately<<

But I like men and I like the dynamic that they bring. They don't seem to have quite as many dramas.

>>puts lamb in water to defrost<<

madas Wed 15-Aug-12 18:01:31

Steak and salad for me tonight.

Changlingz Wed 15-Aug-12 18:01:40

I remember Mouldies and cod.

OwlLady Wed 15-Aug-12 18:02:17

pan has been here fopr years, before me I am sure. I joined when my son was about 1 i think and he is 11 now shock and I am no longer the mother of pre schoolers but a mother of a TEENAGER <faints>

OwlLady Wed 15-Aug-12 18:03:11

my teenager is older than my 11 yr old before anyone gets confused wink

i remember dadslib

AnyFucker Wed 15-Aug-12 18:04:23

waaaaay before Mouldies and Cod

I don't remember dadslib..was that a poster or a topic ?

AnyFucker Wed 15-Aug-12 18:04:43

Cod who ? < evil >

Changlingz Wed 15-Aug-12 18:06:44

Dadslib was a poster.

OwlLady Wed 15-Aug-12 18:08:06

mouldies was only a few years ago and cod still posts <rolls eyes>

dadslib was poster, snogged fairyfly at a christmas do <wets self laughing>

AnyFucker Wed 15-Aug-12 18:09:38

agghh, scandal grin

tell us more !

this is much more interesting than arguing about the same ole crap

madas Wed 15-Aug-12 18:11:01

OwlLady, it was probably under the mistletoe ;)

AnyFucker Wed 15-Aug-12 18:11:53

bugger, I have to go wrestle a cow into the oven

I shall be back for the juicy details later

OwlLady Wed 15-Aug-12 18:12:44

well I think that was as much scandal as it got until DL admitted on a relationships thread that he slapped his wife and then it was all over

actually that might not have been him confused there was another dad. I know with dadslib there was a big argument about who should and who shouldn't be called or specified as an engineer that got him into trouble once and a big debate about degree snobbery re. engineers.

Not very interesting eh? grin

you all get your knickers in a twist about allsorts now. We are of the forgotten generation

KickTheGuru Wed 15-Aug-12 20:08:14

You people made me stay on here and now my DH is cooking ME dinner

Whose-a-genius den?!!!

MrGin Wed 15-Aug-12 20:10:52


please report back with a review

KickTheGuru Wed 15-Aug-12 20:52:56

Right, I made the salad and he grilled some chops. Chops were yum. Salad was good. I may tuck into ice cream.

How was risotto?

madas Wed 15-Aug-12 20:57:10

Thats fridays treat lol it was a nice steak tonight.

KickTheGuru Wed 15-Aug-12 21:00:50

I think we may pop out for a quick swim. I am a type 1 diabetic so I get to eat shit and then train and it doesn't kill me.

I traded the cycle for a swim though...

Steak is nom

madas Wed 15-Aug-12 21:04:41

Type 2 here, prefer to cycle tho.

KickTheGuru Wed 15-Aug-12 21:08:25

Triathlete until I was diagnosed just about 2 months ago with severe DKA, glucose level of 37 and hba1c of 15.9%. Nearly dead - yay!

Cycling is cool but I need to not have insulin and eat lots of shit grin

I tend to hypo though after heavy training in the early morning so it's a bit rubbish but the training is worth it

Then I can cycle for hours and not die! Hurrah!

madas Wed 15-Aug-12 21:13:54

couch potato until a year ago hb1ac 12.5 but down to 6.5 6 months later. Have still got more weight to lose but am on the right track. My shit eating days are gone (most of the time) I do miss chocs and puds tho sad

KickTheGuru Wed 15-Aug-12 21:18:02

HA I beat you with the hba1c grin

I've done well though - mine was done the other day and it's taken 2 months to get down to 7.8%

They said they thought me doing the stupid sports delayed how long it took for me to completely drop. But they also said I had about 3 hours left before I'd be dead and that my body took longer to crash, but crashed properly.

I've still not come across a type 1 with stats as cool as mine though. I started to vomit and we thought I was pregnant so we just kind of left it while I crawled to the kitchen eating ice chips. Turned out I was only nearly dead grin

How you feeling with it? You settling in to it now?

KickTheGuru Wed 15-Aug-12 21:19:35

Type 2 can be reserved though - so keep at it and you may wake up one day and be able to treat yourself with choc puds and stuff

The insulin means I can eat what I want. I guess I'm fortunate in that

KickTheGuru Wed 15-Aug-12 21:19:47

Reversed rather hmm

madas Wed 15-Aug-12 21:29:53

When i saw your stats i thought bloody hell you did have a narrow squeek lol
It has turned my life upside down for the better, i eat better exercise more. At my age im pretty much stuck with it, its just more of a damage limitation thing.

KickTheGuru Wed 15-Aug-12 21:32:24

Yeh mine isn't a big deal but I find that insulin is just happier when I go for a walk. I need to watch when I train (but for me, it's a reason to gobble ice cream before I go out), but I'm definitely more aware.

"At your age"!?? You can't be that old?!! wink

madas Wed 15-Aug-12 21:37:16

I will admit to being over 30 smile

KickTheGuru Wed 15-Aug-12 21:38:06

So am I! Not by too much though grin

madas Wed 15-Aug-12 21:39:07

plenty more for me lol

AnyFucker Wed 15-Aug-12 21:39:10

that dadslib sounded like a charmer smile

MrGin Wed 15-Aug-12 21:48:18

I will admit to being over 40 sad


No noms for me tonight. I rarely eat in the evenings.

madas Wed 15-Aug-12 21:50:51

ok im 51 there you made me own up.

KickTheGuru Wed 15-Aug-12 21:50:53

Wow you're all young! grin

Why on EARTH do you not eat in the evenings? It's the only meal I have with my husband so the only one I put any effort into.

>>rubbish wife??<<

(Obviously excluding tonight where the only effort I put in was to thank him for cooking for me)

MrGin Wed 15-Aug-12 21:56:24

Madas.......... you old git grin

< elbows in ribs >

Actually most of my dearest friends are older.

I don't have diner unless my dd is here. I'm single and it's too much hassle cooking for one so I just have lunch. Simplifies my life a bit.

< stops ignoring AF >

How was your cow ?

KickTheGuru Wed 15-Aug-12 21:59:25

Aw it's like being in the twilight zone... grin

madas Wed 15-Aug-12 22:05:03

Mr G, guilty on both counts smile

AnyFucker Wed 15-Aug-12 22:24:10

You talkin' to me now, MrG ?

I don't have to bog off back to relationships (which is seriously upsetting and depressing atm..) ?

The cow was very nice, and I always eat in the evenings despite being over 40yo. In fact I probably break all the healthy eating rules and eat the majority of my food after 6pm and stuff that is bad for me.

I had rag puddings (suet puddings with cow in them)'s a northern thing, with chips, gravy and < ahem > frozen peas. Then cake. I should be dead.

MrGin Wed 15-Aug-12 22:36:33

smile .

Well I'm sure you'll sleep well AF after cow pudding and chips ;)

Which is what intend to do now.


AnyFucker Wed 15-Aug-12 22:59:15

good night

I shall heave my cow-filled carcass around my sofa for a little while longer

AnyFucker Wed 15-Aug-12 23:00:01

I might even have a small glass of red

for medicinal purposes, you understand

LePan Wed 15-Aug-12 23:21:38

yes, there was a big bang and the earth cooled.... and after a while (missing out the boring bits), MN created Dadsnet just for me. smile

AnyFucker Wed 15-Aug-12 23:35:16


kickassangel Thu 16-Aug-12 00:36:50

Jeez, I spend a day doing stuff with the family, log back in the moment I can get some wi-fi and all hell broke loose, then neatly resolved by a bit of chatter about food.

Pan, all hail, the origin of Dadsnet. I'm impressed.

Btw, just had a v late lunch at hard rock cafe, followed by a walk by Niagara Falls and a visit to Hershey's store. Dh had a couple of pints and is now snoring like a trooper. Dd is hungry and I have no food for her.

MrGin Thu 16-Aug-12 07:54:49

mmmmmmm food.

So was it just you in dadsnet originally Pan ?

< sits down cross legged at the foot of Pan's big armchair >

UnimaginitiveDadThemedUsername Thu 16-Aug-12 12:27:03

Bollocks. Missed the action again!

Don't see why an extremely slow meta-discussion about the Feminism folder between me and MrGin means a telling-off, but there you go.

Anyway, I am intrigued by how others make smoked haddock risotto, as I once thought I'd invented it. I break it up and poach it in the rice towards the end with peas. But I know my dear old mum thinks you should poach an entire fillet and balance it on the top when serving up, which I think is bonkers and making unnecessary washing up.

UnimaginitiveDadThemedUsername Thu 16-Aug-12 12:28:55

Also, kickassangel:

If you're in Niagara, did you know that Capt. Webb (he of the swimming the Channel and matches fame) is buried in the US side of Niagara? He tried to swim under the Falls and came a cropper.

KickTheGuru Thu 16-Aug-12 12:37:35

Today, I am DEFINITELY cooking a rack of ribs.

Getting my Pink Floyd / David Gilmour fix and wondering if it's too early for a whiskey (kidding a bit)

Start my nooo job on Monday.

kickassangel Thu 16-Aug-12 20:09:16

In imaginative, we have been reading up on all the mad people who have gone over the top and been telling dd that we'll be sending her down. She says we won't do it cos in jail you don't get coffee.

I'd love to know how Pan feels being the master of the universe Dadsnet

Somebloke Thu 16-Aug-12 20:42:41

I stop posting on MN for a few years, and something interesting happens in Dadsnet while I'm gone... what are the chances?

LePan Thu 16-Aug-12 22:03:33

<adjusts long flowing purple robes>

A few of the good things about the 'tone' in Dadsnet:
- we all treat each other respectfully
- non-one tries to 'own' it.
- less is more (see curry/rissoto thread - class)
- we don't do trolls
- some are single parents, soley, some nrps, one or two sans children, one or two SAHD, some support Arsenal - but there's no competition.
- misoginistic women- reviling posts get ignored, or the posters are quietly shown the door.

You know, all the sort of things the rest of MN could learn from.grin

Changlingz Thu 16-Aug-12 22:07:50

I reckon men are less judgemental than women.

Sweeping generalisation.

LePan Thu 16-Aug-12 22:14:23

proportionally, posters in D/N work full time, I think, than the rest of MN, so there is less time to post, as well as having family stuff.
Yes, we're more likely to shrug when judgement is being invited, rather than launching into a judgey-pants rant. We're just cool.

LePan Thu 16-Aug-12 22:20:04

Just seen the 'women aren't sometimes welcome' thing - really?? - tbh I've not really seen that happen generally.

o, and I haven't been here since Noah was a lad! Off and on since 2006, when did a search for Highly Sensitive Children. I think UQD was here already.

KickTheGuru Thu 16-Aug-12 22:36:21

Men are tons less judgmental. You also tend to be able to largely use your brain for thought while women use so many levels of emotion, a spaceship couldn't get through

MrGin Thu 16-Aug-12 22:38:14

Isn't Smoked haddock risotto more of a kedgery ( sp sorry ) ?

My mum used to make it . tWas yummy.

Pan. < bows and makes elaborate arm gestures >

That's a pretty good summery of your domain life in dadsnet. I would hope that we could actually make it more active here. It kind of seems a bit more lively recently.

I also really like the idea of calling it radDads more for humour than anything else. More in the vein of skateboarding than politics.

And from there..... we can take over MN with our evil plans of domination ! Mwahahahaha ! Who's with me ?!

Sorry . Been to a works leaving do. I may have had some beer. Possibly a single malt...

LePan Thu 16-Aug-12 22:49:30

Works leaving do you say MrG! I did a 5 mile run after work. Have 4 years to impress the selectors. #preparingforRio grin

MrGin Thu 16-Aug-12 22:54:02

Well if there's a holding you bladder whilst on a train I may be in the running. Two more stops.... Come on!

I'm at the feeling yr pulse in yr Johnson stage...

LePan Thu 16-Aug-12 22:56:37

c'mon, problem solving skills needed. Use the toilet on the train.....??

MrGin Thu 16-Aug-12 22:58:58

One more stop. Come on team GB!

MrGin Thu 16-Aug-12 22:59:41

There is no loo on the train !!!

LePan Thu 16-Aug-12 23:02:48

<prepares rostrum, gets out work lanyard and id badge as medal, wonders who collects silver and bronze..>

TuftyFinch Thu 16-Aug-12 23:07:07

I made blackberry rumble today.

MrGin Thu 16-Aug-12 23:08:31

Oh yes !!!!!!! smile

relief .

<Finishes reading bizaare thread>

I may visit here more often smile

I feel should add something. I had pizza for dinner.

What's blackberry rumble?

TuftyFinch Thu 16-Aug-12 23:16:11

It's blackberry crumble. With apples and pears. What sort of pizza?

Ohh that sounds yummy, it was mushroom, ham and olive but the ham was not naice so we had to pick it off grin

LePan Thu 16-Aug-12 23:19:40

I had an innocent smoothie, an energy gel bar, lean steak and an isotonic drink. You know, in case any Team GB selectors are monitoring......hmm

Wtf is a gel bar?

<Picturing hair gel>

MrGin Thu 16-Aug-12 23:23:38

Blackberry rumble sounds nice. What is it ?

Pizza sounds pretty right about now too. smile

LePan Thu 16-Aug-12 23:23:45

It's a gooey mess in a plastic wrapper that is optimally designed with protein and carbs to help in repairing damaged muscle tissue and replenishing glycogen levels.

You wouldn't like them. They taste

TheGame Thu 16-Aug-12 23:25:22

Tell it how it is Pan. grin

AnyFucker Thu 16-Aug-12 23:25:45

did you piss out of the window, Mr G ?

I can hear twittering somewhere, in the distance,it must be a summer evening in my garden

AnyFucker Thu 16-Aug-12 23:27:28

Pan, you would get the same effect from a coke and a burger


LePan Thu 16-Aug-12 23:28:13

That's indeed how it is/was, TheGame!

LePan Thu 16-Aug-12 23:29:09're not an elite athlete, are you, AF?

TheGame Thu 16-Aug-12 23:29:49

Oh arses mid new name change thingy and this was a temp one for another thread. Need a new name otherwise there is going to be a lot of unhappy mnners

TuftyFinch Thu 16-Aug-12 23:30:56

Those gel bars sound awful. Wouldn't a banana work? The rumble was delicious we picked the blackberries in the woods. The custard was made by Birds. We had jacket potatoes but they were a bit burnt because the dog ran away and me and DC had to run through our village, covered in mud and blackberry juice, shouting her ridiculous name. DCs were wailing 'she's dead! she's dead!' all the while. She'd run home silly dog.

Ahh right, yes they sound lovely <gags>

AnyFucker Thu 16-Aug-12 23:32:12

Pan, I am an elite something

athlete, I dunno

MrGin Thu 16-Aug-12 23:33:22

No AF. Thank god I live in the sticks. Exited train ran walked into
woodland, found a niace tree and Had a pee.

There was a guy oppersite me on the train who was pucking up which was a bit much , though he had the foresight to be equiped with a large plastic bin bag. Sorry tmi.

Thankfully am home now.

Loving "the custard was made by birds!" I'm totally picturing those little blue bird friends of snow white flitting around your kitchen grin

TuftyFinch Thu 16-Aug-12 23:34:07

AF you can just be elite.
My name is AF and I am elite.
Or you could be an elite funny cow pie person.

Also dying to know the ridiculous name of your dog...

AnyFucker Thu 16-Aug-12 23:35:44

I had kiev this evening

I like a bit of Russian

TuftyFinch Thu 16-Aug-12 23:36:14

MrGin I have instructed DC never to pick blackberries lower than their knees because a MrGin type person or a dog may have weed on them.

What type of cow goes in these little puddings then? Like bits of steak? Mince? I must admit it doesn't sound extremely yummy but then I'm not keen on suet <pointless post>

LePan Thu 16-Aug-12 23:37:32

Dog's name demand..we won't laugh. Much.

TuftyFinch Thu 16-Aug-12 23:38:51

MrsRhett it's a noun. A bit like table but not. It's enough of a noun to make me sound mad when I'm in the woods shouting her name. We made the mistake of letting DC name her.

Chicken kiev? With garlic and all that? I luffs them, I think I shall cook those on saturday, I haven't had those in ages.

MrGin Thu 16-Aug-12 23:39:41

I'm starting to picture AF's cow pie like Desperate Dan's. With horns poking out the top. ;)

AnyFucker Thu 16-Aug-12 23:40:45

suet ?

what's not to like ?

saturated fat galore

beef puddings...steak < beef cow>

jam roly poly ?

food of the gods !

I misread pan's post and thought the dogs name was Demand! grin

Oooh never let the kids name the animals! We now have an ABD named Anabella due to making that mistake smile

It may be pretty but it sounds stupid when you're stood in the field shouting it out

MrGin Thu 16-Aug-12 23:42:25

I had a butternut squash curry from works canteen for diner.

It was horrid.

Also. I would avoid pee-ing on blackberries. That's just wrong.

NewStartSameStory Thu 16-Aug-12 23:43:20

Now I am hungry again. And I have strange cravings for food I wouldn't normally want. Although crumble sounds lovely. Apple crumble making at nearly midnight would be wrong wouldn't it.

yes i got rid of the other name, TheGame was just tooo evil

Hmm, maybe a jam roly poly, yes, I could definitely eat one of those. They don't count as suet then on account of being yummy anyway

Crumble making is never wrong whateveryournameisnow wink

AnyFucker Thu 16-Aug-12 23:47:56

somebody I know is intent on scattering her deceased partners ashes over the blackberry bushes they used to frequent together

MrGin Thu 16-Aug-12 23:48:08

I'm thinking of a name change.

I thought MrG or just 'G' then I thought 'Kenny G'

LePan Thu 16-Aug-12 23:50:38

Master Gee was one of the Sugar Hill Gang? < shows age and dodgy music tastes..>

shock AF! No way! Any chance you can follow behind with a watering can?

<Sick face emoticon>

TuftyFinch Thu 16-Aug-12 23:52:56

I bloody love suet but I don't eat the animals. If someone made a soya pie like Fray Bentos I would eat them every day. When we lived in London there was a pie and mash shop that sold vegetarian pies, mash, peas and gravy. It was my favourite place.They sold it to a national chain to sell overpriced burgers. I don't want a burger with a giant mushroom and cheese thanks all the same.
MrGin I'm glad you don't wee on blackberries. I'm sure others do.

BigG? (Assuming you are big of course) grin

Changlingz Thu 16-Aug-12 23:53:24

I had a KFC.

Very healthy and nutritional.

Changlingz Thu 16-Aug-12 23:54:08

What about 'GSpot' ?

No one would ever find you.

AnyFucker Thu 16-Aug-12 23:55:11

G-force ?

G-string ?

Rhett, I always speaka da truth

I am going to facilitate the blackberry bush ash-scattering. It's all dust dust innit

I could eat a toasted twister right now mmmmmm

MrGin Thu 16-Aug-12 23:56:43

BigG ? Well I'm 6'3" so possibly.

6'3" tall that is.

LePan Thu 16-Aug-12 23:56:44

What about 'GSpot' ?

No one would ever find you.

Ha ha ha ha!!

AnyFucker Thu 16-Aug-12 23:58:06

changlinz you did a funny grin

grin changlingz!

Yes, dust is dust is dust. I guess... grin

AnyFucker Fri 17-Aug-12 00:00:10

I would rather dust than piss on my blackberries

Changlingz Fri 17-Aug-12 00:00:15

I though it'd been missed.

I did a fantastic joke about Volvos the other day as well.

I'm a funny guy.

<Wonders what could possibly be funny about a volvo> good solid cars them.

AnyFucker Fri 17-Aug-12 00:01:50

steady on, changlinz, you are only as funny as your last post wink

TuftyFinch Fri 17-Aug-12 00:02:09

What about taking a cutting of the brambles and planting it with the ashes in her garden?
What about Gordon? MrGin is a nice name. MrWine? MrVodka? No, they don't sound the same. I think it's because 'Gin' sounds like the name of someone in a Famous 5 book.
"George peered through the blackberry bushes and saw Mr Gin eating the ginger biscuits that Mrs Jackson had made. George immediately ran to the cave on the lovely Devon beach where her and her friends were allowed to spend a blissful summer with hardly any parental interference ...

MrGin Fri 17-Aug-12 00:02:35

I laughed out loud at the Volvo joke Changeling.

AnyFucker Fri 17-Aug-12 00:02:57

my husband drives a Volvo

it's funny in the's undriveable

how could a Volvo be undriveable in the snow ?

but ut is

AnyFucker Fri 17-Aug-12 00:03:12


Was there really a volvo joke? Tell tell <claps hands excitedly>

TuftyFinch Fri 17-Aug-12 00:05:24

i've got a Volvo - love ebay. But it's like driving a speedboat. Is that normal? We havn't got to the snow yet. We change cars like pants in our house. And sofas.

MrGin Fri 17-Aug-12 00:07:02

Originally I was Gster until I found out it was short for gangster. Then bupcakesandcunting suggested Ginster which became Gin and then I added the 'Mr' for the sake of clarity.

I'm a lazy git believer in less is more so 'G' appeals.

Volvos are like tanks ime

AnyFucker Fri 17-Aug-12 00:09:19

Volvos are great if you have kids, dogs, and need to carry around your new sofas

G is also short for gangster btw

Inneedofbrandy Fri 17-Aug-12 00:10:52

Hello dads net <waves>

Yeah, volvos have to be dirty too. Its the law.

NewStartSameStory Fri 17-Aug-12 00:11:58

MrG would make you sound like a school teacher.

Some bastard ate the apples. sad who eats cooking apples raw? confused

I could picture a teenager doing that. Do you have any of those?

AnyFucker Fri 17-Aug-12 00:14:38

whoever ate the raw cooking apples should become evident around 4am


LePan Fri 17-Aug-12 00:15:53

'MrG' is enigmatic, cool, slightly edgey, a hint of promise. Suits!

MrGin Fri 17-Aug-12 00:17:35

Hello inneedofbrandy

arf @ the apples at 4am

TuftyFinch Fri 17-Aug-12 00:18:30

Why are cooking apples different? I mean,I know they are but are they grown as 'cooking apples'? Can you get cooking apple trees? I just use the stuff in the fruit bowl that's about to turn. A bit like jacket potatoes. Are they just big potatoes or is there a special jacket potao plant?

AnyFucker Fri 17-Aug-12 00:18:35

"MrG" could be The MilkTray Man

AnyFucker Fri 17-Aug-12 00:19:03

change your name to MilkTrayMan

forget this G crap

TuftyFinch Fri 17-Aug-12 00:19:08


MrGin Fri 17-Aug-12 00:19:37

How about MrWee ?

People might think you were going a bit '50 shades' though... Mr Grey? MrG?

Ahh its late and I'm tired but its a definite possibility.

NewStartSameStory Fri 17-Aug-12 00:20:22

grin AF.
No teenager. But why eat the apples and leave the chocolate? confused

LePan Fri 17-Aug-12 00:20:34

yeah AnyFucker is brilliantly placed to advise on name-changing......hmm...grin

TuftyFinch Fri 17-Aug-12 00:20:58

i could've out spaces ^. I didn't. My space bar is malevolent.

TuftyFinch Fri 17-Aug-12 00:21:44


Oh I'm loving MilkTrayMan!

NewStartSameStory Fri 17-Aug-12 00:24:03

Tufty - cooking apples are generally larger and more acidic then eating apples. Can give you a nasty tummy if you eat then raw in large quantities. They are bramley? apples?

Inneedofbrandy Fri 17-Aug-12 00:24:35

Oh you could choose another drink like MrJDandCoke and forget about the G...

AnyFucker Fri 17-Aug-12 00:24:35

MilkTray Man

dodgy, stalkery cat burglar bloke in tight black leotard, tights and school pumps

what's not to love ?

AnyFucker Fri 17-Aug-12 00:26:04

Pan, I have to remind you that I won the Xmas name change competition in 2011 (or was it 2010)

one of those anyway

AnyFucker Fri 17-Aug-12 00:27:04

cooking apples eaten raw will make you poo through the eye of a needle

MrGin Fri 17-Aug-12 00:31:01

MilkTray Man

dodgy, stalkery cat burglar bloke in tight black leotard, tights and school pumps

< closes curtains and turns lights off >

AnyFucker Fri 17-Aug-12 00:33:09

you hoping for a visitation, MrG ? grin

TuftyFinch Fri 17-Aug-12 00:34:10

oooh, lookl ovely chocolates on my pillow.

AnyFucker Fri 17-Aug-12 00:34:31

me ?

I buy my own fucking chocolates

< reverts to type > wink

on that note, I am off to bed also

LePan Fri 17-Aug-12 00:34:48

AF - Bait. Rise to.grin

MrGin Fri 17-Aug-12 00:38:33

.... because the laydeee lives milk tray.

WTF is a milk tray anyway. Sounds totally impracticle.

Night AF.

MrGin Fri 17-Aug-12 00:40:28

Lives - loves...... Whatevers smile

MrGin Fri 17-Aug-12 00:43:40

I think sleep is calling me too.

< reverses out of thread bowing to the purple robed overlord of DN >

LurkingAndLearningLovesCats Fri 17-Aug-12 00:51:57

I hope you're all happy...Now I'm hungry! angry grin

kickassangel Fri 17-Aug-12 02:12:37

Can't get cooking apples in the US. Mind you, far too warm at this time of year to turn the oven on. Crumbles will have to wait for a month or two.

Fwiw, if any of you evert think of coming to Niagara Falls I would say that the falls are impressive. The town around it is more like a down market Blackpool. We are hoping to find McDonalds as possibly the best quality food in the area.

Maryz Fri 17-Aug-12 02:33:12

I am up because I couldn't sleep, and for some bizarre reason this thread was in "most active".

I have now read it, and am completely confused. It is so surreal that I am marking my place to ensure it actually exists and I'm not just dreaming it.



kickassangel Fri 17-Aug-12 02:42:31

Maryz I always post late cos I'm 5 hours behind the UK, which is bloody annoying when I log on at night and they've all been having fun without me.

Serious question now: how do you men feel about the threads like 'you couldn't make it up' where women do the men, bless, they can't help bring a bit stupid. I know it's light hearted but doesn't it get a bit wearing?

NewStartSameStory Fri 17-Aug-12 05:03:06

You definitely didn't dream it Mary.

See everyone complains about the uk climate but you can't be the land of rolling green fields and apples without rain. Rain is kinda essential to the essence of the UK.

EugenesAxe Fri 17-Aug-12 05:43:02

Clearly the name is a bit of a barrier for most grin

With all the crumble talk I was a bit paranoid my reply to the dessert apples thread was being ripped into as a WTF? moment. I was sitting with DS after bad dream (at 4am) and 'Shit - I told her 175g butter didn't I?' popped in my head and stressed me out so much I had to follow up. Now I can't sleep. I did hear someone get up to go on holiday (or dispose of a body, but I heard curt female commentary interspersed with door bangs, which suggests former), which is exciting.

AnyFucker Fri 17-Aug-12 07:44:47

Pan-joke. grin

MrGin Fri 17-Aug-12 08:16:09

Back on a train. sad

I'd really prefer to be in bed still.

MaryZ. This thread will eventually reveal itself to be a map of the male brain when printed out and property arranged.

Changlingz Fri 17-Aug-12 08:17:27

The 'you couldn't make it up' type threads are bizarre.

Imagine if you were posting that about one of your children

I assume it's some sort of defence mechanism, I think some women have a real problem with the man being competent in the house.


Roll a number, write another song like MrGin heard the day he caught the train.

<all together now>


<clears throat>

Sorry bout that...


MrGin Fri 17-Aug-12 08:40:10

I used to be on a car forum where regularly a 'women bless 'em' threads would start up. It was all " lolz my g/f put oil the window wash" or " my wifey thinks a circular bike ride from home has less uphill bits if we go anti clockwise" kind o stuff.

Whenever I see a "men aren't they daft" type thread on here it just makes me think women can be just as sexist as men behind closed doors , when in the company of their own sex......

KickTheGuru Fri 17-Aug-12 09:18:10

My husband - love him for all he is worth - does sweet fa around the house.

Women i think are more inclined to hate all men if one is mean. That said, i do think they are also more sexist

i would love nothing more than to stay home when we have a baby and be pregnant, barefoot and in the kitchen

i have a good career and i wouldn't say i am stupid but i would choose family over career

and i put money aside in case i need it but i will not plan for my marriage to fail

Changlingz Fri 17-Aug-12 09:55:33

The sort of post that amazes me is when someone complains about the way their partner has always been...and then proceeds to have children with him.

KickTheGuru Fri 17-Aug-12 10:02:06

Women tend to get bitter quicker...

We know men and women are different. My husband wouldn't see a sink of dirty dishes if they fell over and knocked him off his laptop. But he will do them if I ask. So I ask. Big deal.

Do you think "Relationships" is a very skew ACTUAL reflection on relationships or do you think there is an element of over-exaggeration?

anairofhopeFORGOLD Fri 17-Aug-12 10:03:53

I agree changlingz like women think getting married or having children will change a persons behaviour!

I dont think any external event will chane people it has to come from the person who wants to change and its rare that people see they have to change.

anairofhopeFORGOLD Fri 17-Aug-12 10:08:14

I think in relationship board people post when they are upset and emotional. If they posted after the shock or dust had settled i think it would be different.

KickTheGuru Fri 17-Aug-12 10:08:25

Our biological clock ticks louder than men's do. I think women will be quicker to hope that a man will change, and that the marriage / children combination is enough to sustain his shortcomings.

I think women are quicker to just "settle" - because our ovaries have a time limit

UnimaginitiveDadThemedUsername Fri 17-Aug-12 10:14:14

What's that old saying? Something about women marrying men and hoping they will change, whereas men marry women and hope they stay the same?

Changlingz Fri 17-Aug-12 10:15:03

I always thought I was being viewed as a sperm-donor!

KickTheGuru Fri 17-Aug-12 10:21:30

Changling You didn't really, did you??? Are you still married to the recipient of your sperm?

ArtexMonkey Fri 17-Aug-12 10:22:14

Women are like this, men are like this....

It's all bollocks isn't it?

I mean, comments like "ooh you men are so fab and non judgmental and soooo brainy with your brainy brains instead of silly emotions like us bitchy daft women" are just the flip side of "men are so stooopid, I would never leave my baby with one in case he wiped its bum with the dish cloth"

Aren't they?

It's not very respectful either way, and if you were saying these things about black people and white people instead of men and women, it would look well dodge.

Say what you like about feminists (and I see you do wink ) they're the last people to come out with this sort of claptrap.

KickTheGuru Fri 17-Aug-12 10:24:51

Artex I see your point. But while there are groups of people (be they black, white, male, female, asian or puppies), who have "Blacks Only", "Whites Only", "Men Only", "Women Only" etc etc, there will always be a degree of animosity and people will always be wary.

It's "against human rights" for their to be a "men's only" anything (apart from toilets - probably at female request) but "women's only" abounds.

Different rules does not a happy group of diverse people make

MrGin Fri 17-Aug-12 10:33:37

I think there are a whole gamut of different experiences and attitudes really. But generalizing I think men just aren't that bothered about tidiness to the same degree due to ( for want of a better word ) laziness.

I was just talking to a woman in the canteen who was describing how when she visits her dad ( in Poland ) , where her daughter lives, she goes into cleaning mode as soon as she enters the door.

She said to her daughter ' why don't you clean this corner of the floor ? ' and her daughter replied ' because you're the only person who ever looks there' grin

One of my dearest friends was a SAHD until he booted his wife out for having an affair. The contrast between before and after she left is quite apparent. It's not dirty in his home but there is certainly more clutter. More MrK's den of interesting objects and books that the Vogue interiors that it used to aspire to.

I've another friend who is a single dad and his place is generally pretty messy. I'm sure there are plenty of women who aren't that bothered.

And again there are a whole gamut of different situations. I remember when my parents ( fools ! ) used to go on holiday and leave me and my older brother at home as teenagers.

My brother knew that I'd freak out about cleaning the house up for their return before he did. I'd break first and do the cleaning. I'm slightly embarrassed to say that by about the third time this happened two female friends of mine would come and do the cleaning. Quite happily as I remember.

( disclaimer : I am a bit hung over my brain is not functioning on higher levels )

ArtexMonkey Fri 17-Aug-12 10:37:32

Oh ok Kick.

So it's ok to generalise because of women only gyms/swimming/toilets. sorry, my silly daft emotional non brainy thinky brain doesn't really get it.

peoplesrepublicofmeow Fri 17-Aug-12 10:37:45

must have missed this tread breaking the relitive quiet tranquility of dadsnet.

the fact dadsnet is in the club section doesnt cause me any lost sleep, but there is a feeling that when your a dad even if your hands on dad that your just playing at it and the children are the wifes department, she will get the final say in what is good for them, people have asked me if i'm 'babysitting' if i cant come to the pub.

ArtexMonkey Fri 17-Aug-12 10:38:56

<twirls hair>


KickTheGuru Fri 17-Aug-12 10:40:31

She said to her daughter ' why don't you clean this corner of the floor ? ' and her daughter replied ' because you're the only person who ever looks there'

So true!! My husband shrugs and says that he can't see what I am looking at.

I don't mind though. I think he understands that I feel that he supports me when he helps a bit (when we both work - if I stay home, then I take on the lions share of the housework and visa versa).

At the end of the day, when we are fortunate enough to fall pregnant, I will largely be able to stay at home for as long as I want and that's a big deal for me. He is happy to know that I squirrel money away for a rainy day.

I have never so much as snogged another man while I've been dating someone. Neither has my husband. I don't understand the "affair" culture and MN scares me into believing that it's so natural. That people just suddenly wake up one day and go "I fancy cheating"

I like the support on here but I hate that "man bashing" aspect because I see no point in gender stereotyping. None whatsoever. Passed being a child, we allow people to treat us in certain ways and if you let your partner or parent or child treat you like a dog, then you can't exactly blame everyone else for it.

UnimaginitiveDadThemedUsername Fri 17-Aug-12 10:40:52

This thread aside, 'Dadsnet' is like a club. A gentlemen's club, where nothing much happens aside from the occasional rustle of newspaper.

KickTheGuru Fri 17-Aug-12 10:42:57

when your a dad even if your hands on dad that your just playing at it and the children are the wifes department, she will get the final say in what is good for them, people have asked me if i'm 'babysitting' if i cant come to the pub.


Changlingz Fri 17-Aug-12 10:44:02

You are allowed to generalise in Dadsnet.

It's perfectly acceptable.

MrGin Fri 17-Aug-12 10:44:59

This thread aside, 'Dadsnet' is like a club. A gentlemen's club, where nothing much happens aside from the occasional rustle of newspaper.

We should have a rustling newspaper thread.

KickTheGuru Fri 17-Aug-12 10:46:51

.. Ahem..

>>rustles paper<<

>>changes leg on knee<<

MrGin Fri 17-Aug-12 10:47:59

This is what it actually looks like in dadsnet.

here is LePan ( blessed be his name )


here are the rest of us preparing to make salutations.

Changlingz Fri 17-Aug-12 10:49:50

This was a great post by Unquietdad.

' I have been here 4 years and Dadsnet has always been a bit like a quiet, empty bar with the odd bloke nursing a pint, some football on a screen in the corner, a buxom barmaid looking surly...

...and a loud, wild, hilarious party of mostly women going on in the room next door.

Occasionally a tipsy woman will stagger in through the doors, clutching a bottle, wearing a party hat and blowing a party vuvuzela. She will then laugh uproariously at us, say what a bunch of saddos we are in here and invite us to come in and join the proper place if we have the balls. She will then slosh and teeter her way back through the door again, cackling madly.'

KickTheGuru Fri 17-Aug-12 10:52:35

Can I be the token laydee?

MrGin Fri 17-Aug-12 10:53:21


KickTheGuru Fri 17-Aug-12 10:53:47

Or the buxom barmaid? grin

MrGin Fri 17-Aug-12 10:54:43

Sorry that was to Changelingz.

KicktheGuru, all are welcome in here. Well apart from extremists from any side of the divide.

anairofhopeFORGOLD Fri 17-Aug-12 10:57:32

Can i be one of the saddos nursing a beer please?

anairofhopeFORGOLD Fri 17-Aug-12 10:58:59

<rustles newspaper>

KickTheGuru Fri 17-Aug-12 10:59:30

>>buxom barmaid pours the beer<<

I'm back at work on Monday.

>>buxom barmaid necks four tequilas in quick succession <<

anairofhopeFORGOLD Fri 17-Aug-12 10:59:50

<takes a sip of beer and puts head back in newspaper>

Changlingz Fri 17-Aug-12 11:00:12

We're equal-opps.

MrGin Fri 17-Aug-12 11:01:20

< pops out for a roll up >

MrGin Fri 17-Aug-12 11:01:36

< i mean pipe >

KickTheGuru Fri 17-Aug-12 11:02:17 we discuss what's happening in the news?

Or do we silently just read it and not commet?

>>wonders how the talking goes on with all the newspaper reading<<

anairofhopeFORGOLD Fri 17-Aug-12 11:02:22

Im hiding as i seem to be upsetting people this week, im blaming it on my chest infection and being too blunt with people sad

KickTheGuru Fri 17-Aug-12 11:03:13

I always upset people. I actually come with a disclaimer

anairofhopeFORGOLD Fri 17-Aug-12 11:07:53

A female friend i worked with over five years ago txt me this week that she is getting married in two months but has not sorted a venue yet. I told her she would be lucky as most places are booked up 6 months in advance. Then she posted on fb that she and her partner have been accepted in the orthodox church where they are getting married in two months time. So she has been to church for the past five years and has been living with here partner for 7 years. It reminds me of the placebo lyric "living in sin while asking God to let her in"

I just dont get it!

MrGin Fri 17-Aug-12 11:10:46

I think you've got the wrong thread anairofhopeFORGOLD grin

MrGin Fri 17-Aug-12 11:11:34

I know it's massively confusing having more than one post per day in here. ;-)

anairofhopeFORGOLD Fri 17-Aug-12 11:11:50

<takes sip of beer>

So whats your fav alcoholic beverage?

KickTheGuru Fri 17-Aug-12 11:12:22

Ha is that what happened???

See? Chicks talk

anairofhopeFORGOLD Fri 17-Aug-12 11:14:02

I was explaining how i upset people lol

im not bothered one way or the other. Im just amazed by the twisted reasoning behind it hmm

KickTheGuru Fri 17-Aug-12 11:16:22


I like running into the extreme parenting threads and winding them up, then hiding the thread. blush

It's actually becoming a bit of hobby of mine

anairofhopeFORGOLD Fri 17-Aug-12 11:16:33

Bugger ive outted myself as a chick lol

must shut up more al le bart simpson

anairofhopeFORGOLD Fri 17-Aug-12 11:19:07

Kick - love it. I only wind the op up if i think they are taking the piss!

KickTheGuru Fri 17-Aug-12 11:21:06

I think the scary thing is "what's WRONG with me breastfeeding my 4 year old while my husband sleeps in another room? My baby NEEDS me" isn't actually the OP taking the piss shock hmm

MrGin Fri 17-Aug-12 11:22:31

I once mis-posted ( thinking I was posting in an old clique ) in the middle of some raging argument about God knows what that I had my favourite underpants on and was putting the party music on grin

anairofhopeFORGOLD Fri 17-Aug-12 11:24:23

MrGin i remeber that so funny lol

KickTheGuru Fri 17-Aug-12 11:26:32

Message deleted by Mumsnet for breaking our Talk Guidelines. Replies may also be deleted.

Changlingz Fri 17-Aug-12 12:14:13

KTG. What on earth did you say, and who would report it?

MrGin Fri 17-Aug-12 12:20:56

? Eh ? Why on earth was that deleted / reported ?!

MrGin Fri 17-Aug-12 12:23:46

Oh for God sake, someone has been reporting posts all the way through this thread if you look back.

utter ........

MrGin Fri 17-Aug-12 12:24:43

< rustles newspaper in an angry fashion >

NewStartSameStory Fri 17-Aug-12 12:28:32

I am glad it is not just my med addled brain that is confused by the deletion. I like dadsnet/ the male pov as it is generally factual. Not as emotionally driven. Emotions and this house is like standing next to a tub of gunpower with matches. One false move and it is going to end badly.

And it was obviously not yesterday that the cooking apple eating occured. Everyone else slept soundly envy

NewStartSameStory Fri 17-Aug-12 12:31:10

The early deletions on the thread happened last night though. A couple of them had happened before I joined the thread.

Changlingz Fri 17-Aug-12 12:33:42

There's been a lot if deletions.

There's a saddo out there, poised to report.

Get a life.

MrGin Fri 17-Aug-12 12:35:35

Oh well , whatever. Life goes on. If some trigger happy lemon sucker is hovering over the report button more fool them.

MrGin Fri 17-Aug-12 12:40:10

< pulls a party popper >

peoplesrepublicofmeow Fri 17-Aug-12 12:40:34

hahaha changlingz , this really made me laugh

^' I have been here 4 years and Dadsnet has always been a bit like a quiet, empty bar with the odd bloke nursing a pint, some football on a screen in the corner, a buxom barmaid looking surly...

...and a loud, wild, hilarious party of mostly women going on in the room next door.

Occasionally a tipsy woman will stagger in through the doors, clutching a bottle, wearing a party hat and blowing a party vuvuzela. She will then laugh uproariously at us, say what a bunch of saddos we are in here and invite us to come in and join the proper place if we have the balls. She will then slosh and teeter her way back through the door again, cackling madly.'^

why are posts getting deleated? seems odd to me it's a fairly innocent and no so serious thread.

anairofhopeFORGOLD Fri 17-Aug-12 12:47:04

What happened? Why the deletions? MNHQ please explain?

anairofhopeFORGOLD Fri 17-Aug-12 12:47:51

Goes off to see if anything i posted has got deleted.

UnimaginitiveDadThemedUsername Fri 17-Aug-12 12:54:42

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UnimaginitiveDadThemedUsername Fri 17-Aug-12 12:55:34

I suspect you'll be able to time with a stopwatch how long my above post remains undeleted.

anairofhopeFORGOLD Fri 17-Aug-12 12:58:28

Lol i think your right.

MrGin please dont namechange i like your nn sad

None of my post have been deleted :-p

MrGin Fri 17-Aug-12 13:00:17

The early deletions are because I dared to mention a rather unpleasant state of affairs which MN seems to want to forget, even though it's still happening. I've seen a raft of posts saying people are uncomfortable posting in FWR ( now chat )

put it this was I don't think it's a RadDad doing the reporting.

Why KicktheGuru's post above was deleted is a mystery. It was completely unrelated.

MrGin Fri 17-Aug-12 13:00:39

And lo, we're talking about it again !

UnimaginitiveDadThemedUsername Fri 17-Aug-12 13:03:33


UnimaginitiveDadThemedUsername Fri 17-Aug-12 13:03:50

RadDad - now that's a good user name.

anairofhopeFORGOLD Fri 17-Aug-12 13:04:17

Stop talking about it or the fred will go poof shock

anairofhopeFORGOLD Fri 17-Aug-12 13:05:41

(MrGin i now agree that girls smell like jam as my dd does maybe its cos they are sweet!)

MrGin Fri 17-Aug-12 13:06:25

I am eating a pasta bake. I have a chocolatey cookie too .

peoplesrepublicofmeow Fri 17-Aug-12 13:07:08

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MrGin Fri 17-Aug-12 13:07:08

They do smell ( faintly ) of jam yes.

MrGin Fri 17-Aug-12 13:08:49

Meow. I do agree, but suggest we move on. I was / am as frustrated and angry as the next person but I'd hate for this thread to get given the heave-ho.

anairofhopeFORGOLD Fri 17-Aug-12 13:10:52

I have a coffee with soys milk in and a cheese butty. (We have run out of cows milk so im using the kids milk --bad mummy--)

anairofhopeFORGOLD Fri 17-Aug-12 13:12:16

My strike thru didnt work sad

peoplesrepublicofmeow Fri 17-Aug-12 13:13:00

i've eaten too much chocolate and now i feel a bit sick.

KickTheGuru2 Fri 17-Aug-12 13:13:32

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Changlingz Fri 17-Aug-12 13:15:25


UnimaginitiveDadThemedUsername Fri 17-Aug-12 13:15:45

I have just had six hot dogs.

There was ketchup on them, so that's one of my five a day sorted.

Changlingz Fri 17-Aug-12 13:17:19

Wouldn't you get an email if you're being banned?

MrGin Fri 17-Aug-12 13:17:23

Erm. I think I was just banned from MN??

Eh ? Please explain. As you are still here.

KickTheGuru2 Fri 17-Aug-12 13:17:54

My husband wanted to buy those hot dogs in a can until he read "mechnically produced chicken and turkey offcuts"

I think he turned a bit green

KickTheGuru2 Fri 17-Aug-12 13:19:20

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Changlingz Fri 17-Aug-12 13:22:28

Very clandestine.

KickTheGuru2 Fri 17-Aug-12 13:23:18

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anairofhopeFORGOLD Fri 17-Aug-12 13:24:22

Check your email account.

Thats weird!

anairofhopeFORGOLD Fri 17-Aug-12 13:25:49

Mn have to tell you why they ban you and you can appeal.

anairofhopeFORGOLD Fri 17-Aug-12 13:26:52

Maybe they deleted and ban the wrong person

<eyes Gin>

NewStartSameStory Fri 17-Aug-12 13:28:55

Kick is it just your post on here that has been deleted or have others gone too?

KickTheGuru2 Fri 17-Aug-12 13:28:56

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anairofhopeFORGOLD Fri 17-Aug-12 13:31:51

Have you posted on any other thread today that your post was deleted on?

MrGin Fri 17-Aug-12 13:35:17

Didn't we tell you ? One post in DadsNet and your tainted I tells ya, tainted !

Marks place, hoping MrGin's suggestion that that thread will eventually reveal itself to be a map of the male brain, when printed out and property arranged, will in fact work wink

The deletions are confusing me too after reading the thread from beginning to end grin

TheDreadedFoosa Fri 17-Aug-12 13:35:52

Kicktheguru, email hq and ask for an explanation.
But you pretty much admitted to trolling and your posts, just on this thread, have seemed rather like an attempt provoke dadsnet posters to join in with derogatory comments. How i read it anyway. Luckily your comments have been mostly ignored.
I didnt report btw, but i dont think youll be any great loss.

KickTheGuru2 Fri 17-Aug-12 13:36:22

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MrGin Fri 17-Aug-12 13:37:44

I think MNHQ owe you an explanation KTG .

I can't fathom what would be deemed delete worthy in your deleted post.

Maybe MNHQ has been stormed by a crack troop of radLems

MrGin Fri 17-Aug-12 13:41:53


anairofhopeFORGOLD Fri 17-Aug-12 13:43:06

Counting the seconds till ur post gets deleted.

anairofhopeFORGOLD Fri 17-Aug-12 13:44:17

That was aimed at gin.
Agree WTF?

UnquietDad Fri 17-Aug-12 13:44:47

Hello. I still lurk. Don't post any more though. Pan is right, I was here from about 2006-2011.

MrGin Fri 17-Aug-12 13:45:23

I think she's been deleted.

Oi MNHQ what gives ?

NewStartSameStory Fri 17-Aug-12 13:46:08

Bloody hell shock posts are being deleted all over the place! angry most of them for no obvious reason.

Changlingz Fri 17-Aug-12 13:46:53

UQD- a big hello.

This is very mysterious, and in Dadsnet as well.

NewStartSameStory Fri 17-Aug-12 13:47:34

Evening UQD.

MrGin Fri 17-Aug-12 13:50:15

I can only speculate she was banned for something elsewhere, but search just reveals she spends ages talking in conception.

I read her original deleted post and there was nothing what so ever that broke any guidelines or was in any way offensive, except maybe if you were a bone.

You missed a few by the way MNHQ.

anairofhopeFORGOLD Fri 17-Aug-12 13:51:07

Afternoon UQD


NewStartSameStory Fri 17-Aug-12 13:52:49

And it only appears to be this thread on which she is deleted. Very odd. Mind you it is possible she has multiple names and she did something in a different name. I have given up trying to figure out mn logic.

NewStartSameStory Fri 17-Aug-12 13:53:03

*MNHQ logic

anairofhopeFORGOLD Fri 17-Aug-12 13:53:53

I dont get it. I read post and i still dont get why it was deleted.

UnquietDad Fri 17-Aug-12 13:56:46

No big mystery to my departure - it all got a bit much, that's all, combining with Real Life. And DW's on here now, so I risk saying stuff that could out me!

Who knows, I may come back and say the odd thing from time to time.

I got my head bitten off in the Feminist section a few times too. I think the problem with it is that a lot of the feminist posters are used to such fora being "safe spaces" where they can sound off without being challenged, and without men coming in and, as a certain notorious poster delightfully put it, "vomiting all over our table." (A real charmer, that one was.)

But the MN Feminist section isn't a feminist "safe space", it's a section for open debate, challenge and banter (though that word's become a bit Awkward Turtle) like any other. And I think that caused a few misunderstandings.

TheDreadedFoosa Fri 17-Aug-12 13:59:03

I love having a good old potter around Dadsnet, its calm and slightly goofy.

I think ktg was just here to stir up a bit of aggro. Good riddance.

TheDreadedFoosa Fri 17-Aug-12 14:03:02

Although i wish there wasnt so much harping on about FWR. Say what you have to say on the relevant thread but they're not your enemy.

MrGin Fri 17-Aug-12 14:03:34

I think it's oft forgotten that the FWR was / is an area for discussion about femism not and are for feminists.

Changlingz Fri 17-Aug-12 14:03:53

I just searched KTGs posts, she seems very innocuous.

MrGin Fri 17-Aug-12 14:07:13

I think ktg was just here to stir up a bit of aggro. Good riddance.

Well reading her un-deleted posts I don't see what you mean at all.

What do you mean ? I can't see her stirring anything up.

UnquietDad Fri 17-Aug-12 14:07:44

There was a stage when I was being robustly accused on the FWR of being an "MRA". I didn't even know what it was - had to ask.

NewStartSameStory Fri 17-Aug-12 14:07:47

I personally would never ever ever post in the feminism section. Despite the attempts of lrd to try to convince me that it is safe to do so. I prefer to be left in one piece after my postings and not be torn apart due to my inherent inability to make myself understood in a succinct manner.

Changlingz all of us who have searched her have the same conclusions which is why the insistence that she is only out to cause trouble confuses me.

peoplesrepublicofmeow Fri 17-Aug-12 14:09:22

haha, MNHQ are deleating so many posts i cant belive it!, if the truth is that a FB group was in operation why would they try to silence us from saying it.

stopping the truth from being told doesnt make it any less the truth. smacks of despotism!

Inneedofbrandy Fri 17-Aug-12 14:11:14

OO conspiracy, suits the gentlemans club feel though.

<<Lights up a cigar>>

anairofhopeFORGOLD Fri 17-Aug-12 14:11:19

Im confused sad

and a bit scared

MrGin Fri 17-Aug-12 14:12:01

<< starts whispering into lapel >>

MrGin Fri 17-Aug-12 14:13:34

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peoplesrepublicofmeow Fri 17-Aug-12 14:13:41

yes unquietdad, i've been accused of that, along with
cheast beating
victim blaming
what about da menz
thread derailing
being an anti-feminist
and of course showing up to show feminists how there doing it all wrong

TheDreadedFoosa Fri 17-Aug-12 14:14:12

She kept saying divvy stuff about women being emotional and bitchy and bitter, and then when no one was rising to it she starteD on about how as a mum her family came before career, repeated 'jokes' about being barefoot in the kitchen etc.

Was just odd, out of synch with the rest of the thread and as though she either wanted you all to join in and agree so she could sit back and enjoy the ensuing bunfight or she genuinely thought thats the kind of shit that makes you popular in Dadsnet.

anairofhopeFORGOLD Fri 17-Aug-12 14:15:12

Shit invasion everyone grab your OFRS and head to HMS Stratters. This way ->

peoplesrepublicofmeow Fri 17-Aug-12 14:16:12

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MrGin Fri 17-Aug-12 14:27:13

I still don't see what you mean TheDreadedFoosa .

Maybe I'm thick or maybe men just take stuff on the surface and don't dig around for hidden meanings. < shrugs >

She posted, we read. There certainly isn't anything in her posts that warrant a banning. We're all adults not impressionable children.

SigmundFraude Fri 17-Aug-12 14:30:45

I think it was probably the bit where she said she went on the parenting threads with the sole purpose of winding them up. You aren't warned that you're about to be banned either.

MrGin Fri 17-Aug-12 14:32:50

Oh well . Life goes on ( again )

NewStartSameStory Fri 17-Aug-12 14:33:29

Was it her that said that Sigmund? I thought it was a little oot but isn't that what a lot of people do with fightclub AIBU? Go to provoke, rant and shout a bit?

NewStartSameStory Fri 17-Aug-12 14:34:03

Did it ever stop MrGin?

SigmundFraude Fri 17-Aug-12 14:41:32

I think it was, I could be wrong. Admitting to winding people up was a tad daft! MNHQ seem to be tightening up rules almost to the point of moderation..lots of report happy posters around though.

MrGin Fri 17-Aug-12 14:43:11

I think I feel a song coming on...

anairofhopeFORGOLD Fri 17-Aug-12 14:45:49

Bugger i said i wind op up but only on the threads that i know will get deleted such as thread with 'sadface' in!

I think to post negativly about cosleeping and extended bf was a bit off but if thats her opioin fine (tho i disagree)

I feel slightly guilty now sad

MrGin Fri 17-Aug-12 14:47:47

I think saying you're winding people up ( possibly in jest ) and doing so are two different things. Looking at her posting habits I don't really see it.

But who knows, sample reading her previous posts does not reveal a troll or goader.

MrGin Fri 17-Aug-12 14:50:01

Sockpuppet is a possibility I suppose.

Changlingz Fri 17-Aug-12 14:51:39

Ah. Yes a sock-puppet. Be interesting to see if someone else has disapeared.

anairofhopeFORGOLD Fri 17-Aug-12 14:53:38


Have to go take dd to doctors now for her excema but its rain. Its such crap weather here sad

anairofhopeFORGOLD Fri 17-Aug-12 14:55:27

"I never really mind the small things in life"

MrGin Fri 17-Aug-12 14:56:00

Well KickTheGuru and KickarseAngel ( the OP ) didn't overlap, I just assumed it was a name change mid thread, nothing wrong with that though.

Sockpuppetry would be her in discussion with herself, and she wasn't doing that.

Changlingz Fri 17-Aug-12 14:58:59

To be a sock puppet it would have to be someone on this thread.

The murderer is in this room.

Da da daaaar.

Professor Plum, with the candle-stick, in the Library.

anairofhopeFORGOLD Fri 17-Aug-12 15:00:50

I have asked mnhq why she was ban. They might tell us?

Wasn't me!

Trying to keep up but it's moving too fast for me grin

HelenMumsnet (MNHQ) Fri 17-Aug-12 15:02:20


We don't want to delete this thread but we do have to ask you all, please, to stop attacking other groups of posters on MN and to stop repeatedly posting details about the recent 'hoohah' in the Feminism section.

To continue to do so looks very much like goading/inflaming - and that's absolutely not on.

NewStartSameStory Fri 17-Aug-12 15:02:37

There are many kickarse type named posters, it was discussed on another thread a while back. And the op (kickarse) has clearly stated she is in a different timezone which is highly probably.

As they don't comment on policy can't fecking remember the acronim we are unlikely to know.

anairofhopeFORGOLD Fri 17-Aug-12 15:04:14

Helen why was a poster ban please?

peoplesrepublicofmeow Fri 17-Aug-12 15:05:41

MNHQ intervention!
is that a dadsnet first?

HelenMumsnet (MNHQ) Fri 17-Aug-12 15:06:19


Helen why was a poster ban please?

We tend not to broadcast our reasons for banning/suspending posters - not least because, sometimes, the suspension is only temporary.

However, we will drop this particular poster a line.

Changlingz Fri 17-Aug-12 15:08:03

I think posters have been trying to inflame the thread to get people banned.

SigmundFraude Fri 17-Aug-12 15:08:51

Is there a particular reason for not wanting anyone to discuss hoohah's? It is rather restrictive, I can't quite understand it, particularly since everyone knows the details anyway.

peoplesrepublicofmeow Fri 17-Aug-12 15:09:03

i like this thread ,happily bubbleing away tucked away here on dadnet, feels slightly naughty, subversive even.
we knew they had their eye on us with all the deleations but now Helen has erupted onto the page in shocking blue and reproached us, it feels close to dissention!

peoplesrepublicofmeow Fri 17-Aug-12 15:10:34

i would like to know the details too , all i'm getting atm is rumours and speculation.

NewStartSameStory Fri 17-Aug-12 15:13:59

Love the fact that it isn't dadsnet getting swept under the carpet.

<sets stopwatch>

shhhh its a secret wink

anairofhopeFORGOLD Fri 17-Aug-12 15:20:09

Ok i didnt know not to ask!

HelenMumsnet (MNHQ) Fri 17-Aug-12 15:20:54


Is there a particular reason for not wanting anyone to discuss hoohah's? It is rather restrictive, I can't quite understand it, particularly since everyone knows the details anyway.

Yes. Because it was a hugely upsetting period for many Mumsnetters. And since the details were discussed at great length at the time, anyone raking over all the details again does rather give the impression of goading/inflaming - which is against our Site rules.

NewStartSameStory Fri 17-Aug-12 15:24:25

Thing is that is does change the fact that the whole section of feminism can still be an incredibly intimidating area. It was before and it was after. Are you saying we are no longer allowed to voice this opinion?

NewStartSameStory Fri 17-Aug-12 15:24:41

Just for clarification.

NewStartSameStory Fri 17-Aug-12 15:25:10

ffs *doesn't change the fact

UnimaginitiveDadThemedUsername Fri 17-Aug-12 15:27:10

We don't want to delete this thread but we do have to ask you all, please, to stop attacking other groups of posters on MN and to stop repeatedly posting details about the recent 'hoohah' in the Feminism section.

To continue to do so looks very much like goading/inflaming - and that's absolutely not on.

Apologies, but I didn't think that mentioning the 'hoohah' in a folder that has less traffic than the Isle of Sark would be 'goading/inflaming'...

From now on, mum's the word.

<goes back to rustling the Daily Telegraph>

MrGin Fri 17-Aug-12 15:30:36

Yes, but it's all still going on Helen. I've seen at least 4 posts in the last few days of people saying they don't feel able to post in FWR. The same atmosphere is creeping back in there just under different names.

Many of those threads were a small group of people so I don't see how there can be mass upset amongst the MN massive really. Unless you feel the 'radFems' need special protection in some way.

It's not like we have been discussing it at length. Perhaps it should be in the talk guidelines. Don't mention the radFem wars of 2012.