Mansplaining

(33 Posts)
Theworldisending Thu 24-Oct-13 07:15:27

Now I don't want to be accused of Mansplaining in the main site.

I was on last night and I thought the world had ended/was ending.
The abuse thrown at MNHQ was unbelievable.

But I did think:

If in the original thread it had been pointed out by the OP that the ban was for a week and not for life, that AF had been banned before, had been warned again and had apologised.

I don't think that a week ban sounds so unreasonable or world shattering.

Pan Mon 11-Nov-13 11:49:33

Good one, lostdad - I've never had that, but I'm sure it happens. I've been told I'm just a 'big girls blouse' in the past, so that's somewhere near it.

lostdad Mon 11-Nov-13 10:01:03

pan `womansplaining - can you think of a time when a woman told you stuff that you know much more about, and she was telling you it simply because she had an automatic mandate to do so because she was a woman?'

Yes...what it means to be a `real man' - i.e. when a man says or does anything that is not `traditionally' associated with men such as believing men are as capable of caring for children as anyone else, that they believe equality is an all-or-nothing concept, etc.

Husbandplus3 Sun 10-Nov-13 07:47:59

I have just read the poem If by Rudyard Kipling. I think I'll just continue on with my mains playing now. People can take it or leave.
I think maybe Thumbwichs husband and me would probably get along quite well. Good to see another male out there prepared to voice his thoughts even if they are misunderstood.

grin Kittens...

Pan Wed 06-Nov-13 17:39:56

Don't mind if I do Sunshine and add a wee nip to it as well...
When I'd first come across the phrase I was very hmm about how it was being used i.e. as a silencer, and tbh have rarely come across it in RL, possibly though as I'm not in the vulnerable target group. IF anyone is prattling on about stuf fI know more than them about I tend to sit back and think of cuddly, fluffy kittens until they've stopped talking.smile

I generally find "womansplaining" in the same posts as "giant toddler".

Womansplaining, actually, seems to take place between women. Rather than Mansplaining being between men and women. This usually occurs in AIBU.

Thumbwitch Wed 06-Nov-13 13:38:12

Have PMd you Pan smile

Pan have a brew for your excellent answers upthread.

My DH has mansplained me on occasion - the last time he stopped mid-sentence, looked at me and said 'I'm sorry, I was mansplaining wasn't I?' grin

I suspect there may be a degree of 'womansplaining' with regards to childcare - there seems to be a belief among some quarters that men are not capable of being a suitable carer for a child. Which is bollocks.

Pan Wed 06-Nov-13 12:43:24

Evening Thumbwitch! I have lost contact with our dear departed MrG. Last time he mailed me he was in Biarritz with his dd, but that was a while back, and he hasn't responded. Hope he is well.

Thumbwitch Wed 06-Nov-13 12:38:36

My husband is Australian. He tries mansplaining on me fairly regularly. I sometimes bite but mostly ignore. Poor bloke, he just doesn't understand that his mansplaining input is, at best, irrelevant and, at worst, patronising unnecessary drivel.

Pan Wed 06-Nov-13 12:31:46

True. Big difference.smile

JustAnotherFucker Wed 06-Nov-13 12:29:29

Ha ha I have met a few like that Pan, but even still they are usually doing it to get 'their own' way with the menz and make other women feel inferior rather than saying breast is best and here's what to do... iykwim grin

Pan Wed 06-Nov-13 12:22:27

yes, the only equivalent I find, albeit very rarely, is in RL when a woman leads cleavage foremost, and you want to say 'put those puppies away, they won't add to or detract from anything you have to say'.

JustAnotherFucker Wed 06-Nov-13 12:05:10

Yes Husband, I had deduced you are an idiot already. It's the way you came across as patronising/condescending in your posts. You didn't simply give ideas or opinions you pointed out that you don't have the same problem because as a man you had a much better way of doing the task in question.

And your fake astonished self-deprecation is just utter trite too.

Pan - entering penis foremost is a brilliant way to describe it grin

Pan Wed 06-Nov-13 11:56:07

Well it isn't really 2nd class colonial citizen. There's quite a few sheilas (shockis that really bad?) around here.
You just have to be a bit sensitive about who you are posting with/to.
good luck.

Husbandplus3 Wed 06-Nov-13 11:45:26

Hmm, I must be an idiot. Because when some one usually offers an opinion or suggestion I give it due diligence and thought. I try not to judge by gender (oops, did I say that word?). Especially if I don't know the person. Of course once I have got to know them, then my likely response might be something along the lines of "who pushed your button".
Having said all that, we have done something's different with our kids. Some worked; some -we won't go there. In the thread that I upset the opposition in, I told what we did, suggesting it as a possible solution. Oh, shock horror, a male put forth a possible solution and one from the land down under. How dare he, what?
Ok, I knows me place now. Thank thee for pointing out to me the error of me ways, second class colonial citizen that I is!

Pan Wed 06-Nov-13 11:43:30

oh and there is a "Philosophy/spiritual/religion" topic if you have a quick look.

Pan Wed 06-Nov-13 11:32:18

Husband evening!

You just have to take a bit of time, I think. This is a site populated by well-informed, expressive, critical and sometimes 'spikey' women. And some can be arseholes too. You know, all much like blokes can be? But it's a predominantly female chamber, so starting or contributing to a conversation 'penis foremost' is rarrrrely a good idea and means whatever useful thing you have to say will likely be discounted automatically.
Hope you don't mind this advice?

womansplaining - can you think of a time when a woman told you stuff that you know much more about, and she was telling you it simply because she had an automatic mandate to do so because she was a woman?

Husbandplus3 Wed 06-Nov-13 11:18:54

Hey Boney, I don't mind go for it.
So what's it called if the other side does it?
Oh, TiggyD, thank you for wising me up.
Mental note to self: Self, never never never never never never give an opinion, bare testominy, to what you did with your kids lest some one concludes your a no it all __hole.
Never let a man tread in there again.. Oh silly me, woe is me.
Is there such a thing as womansplaining?

BoneyBackJefferson Wed 06-Nov-13 06:51:24

Are we now allowed to refer to posters other threads?

I thought that that was bad netiquette.

Pan Tue 05-Nov-13 12:41:38

I didn't see the thread Just so I'd no idea about that thing there, but yep probably smile

JustAnotherFucker Tue 05-Nov-13 12:38:50

Pan you are right of course, but in this particular instance I don't think the word was misused at all.

Husbands mansplaining and his contribution to that particular thread could be held up as a good example of what mansplaining is -and probably will be--

CosmicDespot Tue 05-Nov-13 12:37:57

That's a fair point, Pan. I've seen some accusations of mansplaining which I disagreed with, but I think it's pretty rare. Especially in comparison to the amount of mansplaining.

Pan Tue 05-Nov-13 12:37:28

of course pansplaining is perfectly acceptable in all circumstances.

Pan Tue 05-Nov-13 12:31:59

or...

especially so where I man is telling a woman/women about stuff that they are actually better qualified to know about, and seems to think this is okay due to willy-possession, though it isn't the willy doing the talking. That is sometimes reserved for the arse area.

though sometimes round here any opinion offered by a man is eligible to be called 'mansplaining' - it's a 'silencer' by some who aren't using the term properly.

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