Expressions which will seem dated in 50 years time? (Possibly distressing for pedants).

(57 Posts)
MardyBra Tue 28-Jan-14 18:36:00

I sometimes wonder which expressions will win out.

When I'm older and greyer will it seem weird and anachronistic to say:

Could have/Would have/Should have
Texted (although texting probably won't exist any more)
Disgusting?

MardyBra Tue 28-Jan-14 18:38:28

Aitch without an H?

RubySparks Tue 28-Jan-14 18:38:50

All the techie ones, will people still google something or Facebook someone?

MardyBra Tue 28-Jan-14 18:48:59

The word "apostrophes" instead of "apostrophe's?

AuntieStella Tue 28-Jan-14 18:50:56

I think the subjunctive is moribund.

MardyBra Tue 28-Jan-14 18:52:30

I still shout "were" at Alan Sugar every time he says "If I was you" Stella. grin

Yes, the subjunctive is fading fast.

I've managed to pass 'whilst' on to my children, who use it in everyday conversation. grin

I'm worried that 'fewer' might be on the way out. sad

DaffodilShoots Tue 28-Jan-14 19:16:58

Whom. It's already gone really hasn't it?

Salmotrutta Tue 28-Jan-14 19:17:59

Specific.

Everyone will be saying Pacific instead by next year confused

SmudgyDVDsAreEvil Tue 28-Jan-14 19:31:26

'Worse' and 'worst' will have swopped places.

I don't know if it's autocorrect related, but nearly every sentence I see with either of those words in has 'worse' when 'worst' would be correct, and vice versa.

eg - 'when he is at his worse', 'what's even worst'. And 'the worse thing about it is' seems very prevalent, though I suppose technically that could be correct.

NumTumDeDum Tue 28-Jan-14 19:39:11

Ask seems to be on the endangered list in some areas of the UK Romford having been replaced by Axe. I'll axe him. I'll flipping axe you if you don't say ASK ex mil. confused

Invitation seems to have died out in favour of invite.

alexpolistigers Tue 28-Jan-14 19:43:29

the simple past form of "eat" seems to be turning into "et" rather than "ate"

meditrina Tue 28-Jan-14 19:43:48

And 'quotation' has all but vanished.

joanofarchitrave Tue 28-Jan-14 19:43:52

Indeed will be gone, though that's not much of a loss. I already feel like someone in a 50s newsreel when I say 'thank you very much indeed' which I do a lot.

SconeForAStroll Tue 28-Jan-14 19:43:58

Couldn't care less.

Seems to have become could care less which doesn't even make sense sad

CarlaVeloso Tue 28-Jan-14 19:46:30

Nobody will say portrait. Just selfie. Eg An exhibition of Van Gogh selfies.

100% will disappear as a quantity. Only 110% will do.

SconeForAStroll Tue 28-Jan-14 20:35:09

carla SIOB shock

MardyBra Tue 28-Jan-14 20:36:33

"Couldn't care less"

For a moment I thought you were dissing my thread there Scone.

Who knew that "bothered" had V's in it?

Trubloff Tue 28-Jan-14 20:54:22

After seeing what some mutual friends post on FB I can only think that so very many options are just wrong. For example:

ov - of
av - have
no - no and know
nd - and
discust - disgust and discussed
fink - think
mite - might
baybee - generic term for loved one, many spelling variations available

I know that there are about half a dozen of us - mutual friends - fighting the urge to correct the most dreadful spellings of very, very common words which seems to have become 'trendy' and acceptable somehow. And interpreting some of these posts is bloody hard work. I think us proper spellers (lol) will win out eventually though. Ov, av, fink and discust won't get past a GCSE examiner anytime soon. Or an employer on a CV. Not me anyway!

MardyBra Tue 28-Jan-14 20:56:43

Will lol have replaced the full stop? It already has on Netmums, hasn't it?

YokoUhOh Tue 28-Jan-14 21:03:20

Lying in. Lying down.

According to Facebook, it's 'laying in' ('having a lay in') and 'layed/laid/laiyed down'.

HelpTheSnailsAreComingToGetMe Tue 28-Jan-14 21:38:30

Nothing new about pronouncing ate as et, and the spelling has held out so far.

I'm nominating led. Most people think it has an a in it.

And mobile. Surely it will just become phone.

SanityClause Tue 28-Jan-14 21:46:30

Will alot become one word? Similar to albeit?

And think of an apron, originally a napron, and an orange, originally a norange!

It could happen! shock

itsatiggerday Tue 28-Jan-14 21:50:29

bored with. My Dad is already the only person I've ever known to persist in correcting bored of except me now obviously

HelpTheSnailsAreComingToGetMe Tue 28-Jan-14 21:51:54

My Latin teacher used to deduct marks for "alright", Sanity. Apparently this was unacceptable and the correct spelling was "all right". hmm

PipkinsPal Tue 28-Jan-14 21:52:28

Perhaps "bang on trend" will be obsolete and "all the rage" back in.

my latin teacher was the opposite of yours, Helpthesnails, he used to say "if it's good enough for the Almighty it's good enough for me".
(He also only had 1 and 1/2 ears due to being bitten by a monkey called Matilda in India. This made him bad tempered so that he threw things.)

Meant to saw it will be nice when 'awesome' goes.
I force 'whom' on the dcs regularly. Also 'thus'. They hate it.

I think (h)otel has just about gone but I am hanging on to aitch no matter how many times call operators correct me.

SconeForAStroll Tue 28-Jan-14 22:57:11

Awesome is already being replaced by epic. grin

Soz Mardy my love - fabbo thread <snogs in wild attempt to distract from 80s cultural reference>

HelpTheSnailsAreComingToGetMe Tue 28-Jan-14 23:10:35

What is it about Latin teachers? Ours used to tell us about the sex lives of the Ancient Greeks instead of revising the third declension or whatever, if the mood took her.

With pronunciation, will nyooz become noos the way syootcase became sootcase, and will the dy sound in due and duel and duty completely be replaced with jue and juel and juty?

Salmotrutta Tue 28-Jan-14 23:18:22

People who say new-cue-lar will soon outnumber those of us who say it correctly sad

Confitdecanard Wed 29-Jan-14 00:06:26

This thread has reminded me if this Stephen Fry clip. You may have seen it already but it makes some interesting points about the evolution of language and pedantry in general

m.youtube.com/watch?v=J7E-aoXLZGY

Confitdecanard Wed 29-Jan-14 00:08:38

My post is missing a full stop and needs *of instead of if. Sorry if I made you twitch!

alexpolistigers Wed 29-Jan-14 17:46:59

I think "computer" will be very outdated before long.

And "terribly", as in "that's terribly nice of you"

frugalfuzzpig Wed 29-Jan-14 17:55:02

Figuratively, instead of a misused 'literally' since apparently literally can now mean either literally or figuratively <cries>

That bit in The Big Bang Theory where Zack says "I haven't been to a comic book store in literally a million years" and Sheldon responds with "LITERALLY? LITERALLY a million years?!?" will not make sense to future generations sad

PipkinsPal Thu 30-Jan-14 15:16:57

I was called a legend the other day because I accommodated someone with an appointment time that was acceptable to them confused. I said I was not that old!

How do you do?

EmilyAlice Fri 31-Jan-14 05:44:42

Frock. Which is a shame because I love it to bits. Pronounced frawk if I am feeling very 1950s.

PrimalLass Fri 31-Jan-14 05:51:27

My 5-year-old says 'puck' instead of picked. We should adopt that --because she sounds so cute--grin

EmilyAlice Fri 31-Jan-14 06:03:29

Actually frock is probably already 50 years out of date.
I was just trying to remember the Michael Rosen poem written when Gove wanted to insist on the teaching of the subjunctive. I think it went something like this;
If I were you
Be that as it may
Learn a subjunctive every day.
smile

My grandmother used the word 'frock'. Also 'slacks' for trousers. If she disagreed with something, it was 'absolute eyewash!'

meditrina Fri 31-Jan-14 07:41:54

I still say 'frock' (my DD once asked if I'd had a pet iguanodon as a girl).

I wonder if "news" (pron: njews) will be driven out by (pron: noos)? After all, no-one, except a few elderly speakers, still say Susan as "Sjusan" (the standard RP pronunciation).

dementedma Wed 12-Feb-14 19:30:02

Dsylexic dd used to use squoze as the past of squeeze, which I really liked.

We had a family friend ill recently and she wanted to wish him well so I suggested she "drop him a line".
She looked baffled and asked " A line of what?"

SconeRhymesWithGone Thu 13-Feb-14 14:21:54

The who/whom distinction is definitely already on the way out. Will other object/subject distinctions go as well? Me and Jane will go to the shop. Please come with Jane and I.

UterusUterusGhali Sun 02-Mar-14 03:55:21

Thrice is all but gone.

As an expression, to "pull the chain" after using the loo makes no sense any more, as so few toilets have an actual pull-flush. Our children will use it perhaps, but not know why.

chateauferret Sun 02-Mar-14 14:19:51

"You and I", etc. is already pretty badly understood. I saw the Tes Minister episode last night in which Sir Humphrey admits being the official at the centre of a ghastly cockup 30 years earlier; he says "it was I". Absolutely correct, but it kinda sounds quaint now. (If he'd been a German speaker "ich war's" would be right. But in French "l'État. c'est moi" is preferable to "je suis l'État", which is however not ungrammatical).

chateauferret Sun 02-Mar-14 14:37:29

Now, the thing that really gets on my nipples is this. "They", "them" and "their" are all plural pronouns on English. People are using them as singular pronouns of neuter or mixed gender and by extension as singular pronouns when they can't be bothered to think about gender. "The applicant sends in their form". It annoys me even more when there is a gender but the writer just ignores it. "Alexander was late for their appointment last week". A aargh!

It happens because English doesn't separate grammatical gender from natural gender. We don't like it when we refer to a person who might be female or male in natural gender with a pronoun with one or the other grammatical gender (usually masculine) because we think they don't agree.

I write "he or she", etc. usually, but I think just "he" is correct, "she" is affected and PC, and "they" is just plain wrong.

Also "it" is almost always wrong too; it's funny how often in Scotland in particular pets (and babies) are referred to with neuter gender, even where the natural gender is known. ("See Jemima the cat? It bit me"). For me though the rules of English grammar require that the target of a neuter pronoun be inanimate (some people also use neuter pronouns for people as a deliberate insult).

chateauferret Sun 02-Mar-14 14:49:20

I'm not sure "shall" will be around forever, at least in some dialects. I know a lot of people in England who never use it and only use "will". It has a useful distinct meaning though, especially in the second person. "You shall have a cake for tea, but just now you will go to school".

Fowler says to think of the two verbs cross-conjugated, IIRC. "Shall" conjugates "I will, you shall, he shall", connoting obtaining some benefit or carrying out some intention, whereas "will" conjugates "I shall, you will, he will", and connotes 'whether we like it or not'.

I write requirements for IT systems and I use the two verbs differently in a quite precise way. "Shall" means something this project is required to do and which is being paid for. "Will" means it will happen anyway and we must handle that. "The customer base will grow from 1 million in 2012 to 2 million in 2015. The system shall scale to meet the corresponding demand".

"Shall" seem to enjoy wider use in Scotland than England though.

HoratiaDrelincourt Sun 02-Mar-14 14:56:13

English people are often startled or muddled by Scottish will/shall in my experience.

Scotsman: "Will I put the kettle on?"
Englishman: "I don't know, will you?"
Both parties: confused

chateauferret Wed 05-Mar-14 19:12:40

Here's one from the local NHS Board. DS2's name is obviously masculine, you would have to be on glue to think he might possibly be a girl. Verbatim:

"DS2 was seen at school today for their Height and weight .Their height was x and their weight was y."

Aaaaaargh donk donk donk

And breathe...

chateauferret Wed 05-Mar-14 19:17:33

Horatia yes I recognise that - in England that's always a shall. I've been up here 15 years and live in a house full of Scottish people and I still can't get that one right smile

Of course the Scots have another excellent modal verb for situations like this which is "gauny" grin

cricketpitch Thu 13-Mar-14 22:40:57

Fortnight. We always used to talk about a "fortnight's holiday" - because that's what you had. I used it with the DCs at breakfast the other day and neither understood it.

JessieMcJessie Tue 01-Apr-14 13:00:46

chateau I am the opposite - 22 years away from Scotland, in England or predominantly English expat communities all that time and I absolutely can't say "shall" in any context without thinking I sound like The Queen! And I would add that I am very well spoken, just very Scottishly well spoken. I didn't even notice that "will I send the letter?" sounded odd to English ears until I had been in England for 9 years and my boss pointed it out!

Bubblybint Thu 08-May-14 18:58:56

Amendments seems to have been replaced by 'amends'. It's no longer a conscious abbreviation at work. Am always amused by all these people making amends all day...

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