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misskgb Tue 11-Mar-14 08:55:36

The 'Um hello newbie' thread has maxed out at 1000 messages so hoping we can find the people who were on there and continue where we left people welcome too!!

mrsb87 Tue 11-Mar-14 09:00:44

Hello! I thought I would drop by as I started off in this thread along with binks and kiki.
I'm 10+3 today and have my scan on 21st.

How is you're pregnancy going kiki? Any other bfp gossip??

Hazelbrowneyes Tue 11-Mar-14 11:40:34

I'm now in cycle 3. I have OPKs and I've started temping, so taking it a bit more seriously this month!

Feeling a bit blue over it all to be honest, I know cycle 3 is not long at all but I'm just so desperate to be pregnant now!

misskgb Tue 11-Mar-14 12:06:36

Hi mrsb-great to hear from u! How was the 8 week midwife appt? 3 weeks to wait for mine n can't wait!

Hazel-try to enjoy it still n keep relaxed, best thing for it I reckon xx

mrsb87 Tue 11-Mar-14 12:16:16

Hi misskgb great news on your bfp, congrats! When is your due edd?

Oh hazel try not to be too downhearted. Try to relax as much as possible and enjoy lots of dtd!

I went to the midwife at 10 weeks so it was only last week. Nothing exciting just loads of questions, they (tried!!) To take some blood and a urine sample which was particularly difficult. Been suffering with HG since wk 5 and havn't been to work since. Been in hospital 3 tines for rehydration.

mrshjb Tue 11-Mar-14 13:38:04

Ooh glad I randomly checked this! Mrsb87 nice to hear from you. Sorry to hear you've been feeling so rough. Are work understanding?

Hazel, I know what you mean ttc is v hard. I've not really classed myself as ttc for the past few weeks of limbo land. Hoping to be able to remain more calm once we can get back on it!

misskgb Tue 11-Mar-14 17:07:46

Will be due mid nov-seems ages away!! Because of my short cycles the websites ive tried to check for due dates r saying I was pg before my last af so not paying much attention to them!! Midwife on 1st April :-)

Whats hg? Hope it settles down for u!!

Really hoping something happens soon helen!!

mrsb87 Tue 11-Mar-14 17:18:19

Yea work have been great, can't wait to get back to be honest.
HG is hyperemesis gravidarum, it is not fun. I can only eat little and often and have become one of those fuasy eaters I normally hate!

Ladymillion Tue 11-Mar-14 18:50:57

Hey everyone, glad there's a new thread, I wanna keep up to date with everyone's progress! smile

I am 5 weeks tomorrow, first midwife appointment on 21st March. I had a stomach bug on Sunday, was panicking it was listeria (I ate pâté Saturday night without realising pregnant women shouldn't eat it! How I missed THAT little gem of info I don't know!). After lots of reassurance from the out-of-hours surgery and my GP surgery yesterday I'm finally calming down and I'm feeling 100% better now. But honestly, the anxiety is RIFE these days isn't it girls? From the day you decide to TTC it's all like shock haha xxx

Ladymillion Tue 11-Mar-14 18:56:32

Hazel I found OPKs very helpful as I attempted SMEP at the start of the month but couldn't keep up with demand of DTD every other day! I thought it's be easy but a) I discovered my libido wasn't up to it LOL b) We were always knackered from work etc and c) my cycles were LONG so I became demoralised thinking I weren't even ovulating. But when I had that positive opk on CD33 I was over the moon and just DTD then for the next 3 days. I know they don't work that way for everyone but just sharing my own personal experience wink

Lolly84 Tue 11-Mar-14 19:52:19

Hiya everyone x

mrshjb Wed 12-Mar-14 07:39:45

Is it supposed to pass after a certain point then mrsb?

Bet you can't wait for your first midwife misskgb, I think it will feel a lot more real by then! Have you told anyone yet? Thanks. AF is definitely on a slow arrival. Soooo pleased to be out of limbo land. Just hope she's not here for like 11 days like she was after the first 55 day cycle!!

Whoops lady. There is a lot of things you shouldn't ape at whilst pregnant isn't there. But my friend who I was on about on the last thread had late a few bottles of wine, soft cheese, raw steak and a raw quails egg the night before she got her BFP so I wouldn't worry too much! A lot of people don't even know their pregnant at your stage and carry on with life as normal don't they! When did you do your OPK sticks?! Did you use IC ones?!

Ladymillion Wed 12-Mar-14 07:55:25

Ahh mrsH so glad your cycle is starting again! Being in limbo is so frustrating!

Do u mean at what point in the month did i use OPKs? I was testing eeeevery day (I bought around 50 IC's off of eBay for about a fiver)!

binkybunny Wed 12-Mar-14 07:55:52

Hi all just checking in. Hazel try and stay positive, easier said than done!

Lady I really wouldnt worry about eating pate I've tried to be good but theres is very little I want to eat now without throwing up or gagging I tend to eat what I can without taking stupid risks. I am already fed up of eating well cooked steaks though!

Helen hoping AF arrives then goes away quick so you can start again.

Hello Mrsb hoping you're not feeling too bad? My good days are more than my bad days now so hope the sickness is gradually going away!

Ladymillion Wed 12-Mar-14 07:57:31

And yep you're so right, loads of women don't know they're pregnant yet, not everyone tests from 8DPO like some of us on here hahaha blush

Hazelbrowneyes Wed 12-Mar-14 08:36:19

I feel a bit better today, thanks ladies. smile

I was just super tired yesterday. CD10 today. Started the OPKs yesterday. Temping as well so I feel a bit more in control but equally like the fun has been sucked out of it grin

misskgb Wed 12-Mar-14 08:53:00

No not told anyone helen which is really hard. Thinking of telling a friend but only coz I cant drink on her upcoming hen do n wedding. Keep telling ppl im on antibiotics atm. I feel nauseous some days n not pg at all other days, its such a strange thing knowing ur pg but not feeling it!! Super excited for the midwife n the next milestone! ! :-)

KikiThePea Wed 12-Mar-14 09:35:18

Well hello all!

Mrsb, it's been a while - sorry to hear about the hospitalisation! I hope you're feeling much better very soon.

I'm at 12 weeks today (and it actually feels like a little bit of a milestone!) Definitely feeling less sick (just a few hours in the morning and late evening now, which is a huge change from 24 hours of feeling like death!), but still stupidly tired. Looking forward to a week in the alps in a few days' time. I can't wait to be able to eat again - I've actually lost weight at this stage, but hopefully won't get into too much trouble with the midwife as I've got another 4 weeks to make up for lost time - I'm sure a patisserie within walking distance will help the cause enormously...

Scan is on Friday morning and I'm now just excited about it. I've given up on anxiety - everything has gone well so far and if there is a problem, well I'll just have to jolly well deal with it when it happens, rather than spend so much time freaking out about 'what ifs'. DH is still stuck on 'what if it's twins?' after a throwaway comment made by my mum last week - his preemptive panicking is hilarious (not that I've told him this, and nor will I think it's hilarious if it did turn out to be twins) - so for him the scan is confirmation that he can relax a bit, I think.

mrsb87 Wed 12-Mar-14 09:58:08

Hi kiki I was just wondering about how you were getting on! Wow exciting times eh? How have you been getting on at work etc? My midwife threw in the idea of twins, there are twins in my family. I do feel like ive bloated quickly considering I've been so sick.
I guess I'm lucky in some ways as I just haven't had the energy to be anxious, barely enough energy to get up to to to the sofanfor 4 weeks.

KikiThePea Wed 12-Mar-14 11:01:39

Hi mrsb. I run my own business so have gotten away with the difficulties associated with being ill at the workplace to some extent - I've been mostly sofa bound and being on a laptop all day has been a killer, but at least I've been able to stay in pyjamas when necessary and wear sunglasses indoors to avoid the glare. The disastrous part has been that we've started work on a fairly big press campaign for the business so dealing with various people in the media on the phone and attempting to sound peppy about business things has been a bit of a challenge!

I've actually come to the conclusion that I must have a stomach of steel considering how rarely the all-consuming nausea ever progressed past that point.

I know what you mean about the ridiculous bloating. I've not been eating anywhere near as much as I really should have been, but I will admit to actually branching out into maternity jeans early just for the comfort aspect. Some people apparently stay in their 'normal' clothes for months and months - I am not destined to be one of them, sadly - but thank goodness for Topshop maternity and their nice, normal, non-frumpy selection!

There's actually twins on both sides of my family (which I had just conveniently ignored as a fact up until a couple of weeks ago...I actually hadn't even twigged about one set of them because they live on the other side of the world and I never see them), but then anyway the midwife noted the killer point that 'multiples can happen to anyone' - DH had just popped out of the room at the point (good job!).

lalanic Wed 12-Mar-14 14:19:24

Hiya! I wondered what happened to that thread, very confused! How are you all?

I'm in limbo just now - 5 days late and again a bfn. Boobs are very sore today. No idea what's going on, just going to wait and see what happens!

How do you tag people to reply to their messages on here?

misskgb Wed 12-Mar-14 19:03:12

Hey kiki. My mums a twin n she's got 6 singular grand children already so im very nervous about the very real possibility of twins. At only 5 weeks a lot of my trousers feel much tighter n im gagging to rip them off at the earliest opportunity. I did think about getting maternity trousers for comfort but most books/websites say around 16 weeks so thought I was being ridiculously premature! !

misskgb Wed 12-Mar-14 19:05:04

Lalanic u have to put * at the start n end of their name (or any word) to make it bold

The other thread had a maximum 1000 msgs so it got locked!!

mrshjb Wed 12-Mar-14 20:44:52

Well it's officially cd1 today wooohoooo!!!

Lady- I meant what time of the day?! I'm still undecided whether to use them or not but thought I might try and prepare myself over the next few days for if I do!!

Wow twins would be a very scary thought. When I was younger I always thought it would be a good idea because then you'd only have to be pregnant once, but that was in the days before I'd seen what looking after one baby was like!! Kiki, soooo exciting that you'll be having your scan this week. What an exciting first milestone that would be!

Have any of you started to think whether you'd like a boy or a girl?!

Lalanic- seriously hope you're out of limbo land soon. 26 days of it has been pretty shocking to be honest. DH cracked out a bottle of Prosecco to celebrate the arrival last night!!

Hazel, how are you feeling starting another cycle? Really hope this is your lucky month smile

I can't really decide whether to properly TTC or whether to try not to think about it and just dtd every 2-3 days throughout the month and just see what happens. In a way I want it to be happen really badly and in another way I cant bare going through the same stress as last month so wonder if I need to take it easy for a bit and see if my cycles settle down.

Ladymillion Thu 13-Mar-14 07:19:02

Oh Helen, that's great LOL at your DH opening a bottle of prosecco to celebrate!

I mostly did OPKs in the morning but occasionally did them in the evening too. My first positive was a morning one. I had positives over 3 days in the end so I'm unsure as to the actual day of ovulation. After my first positive opk I did a clear blue one just to see that smiley face but they're far too expensive to use throughout the month like the cheapie ones!

Ladymillion Thu 13-Mar-14 07:20:57

PS I'm too scared to think about the boy/girl thing, just hoping for a healthy embryo! I'd love a girl though blush

weebairn Thu 13-Mar-14 08:19:10

Hello! Nearly lost this thread. Just thought I'd come and say hi again. I'm 12 weeks tomorrow, which feels like a great milestone to get to. Tiredness and sickness have both got a lot better the last few days, thank god. Work has been such a ordeal. I managed not to have any sick days, but it has been really really hard. Boyfriend has been helping a lot with the toddler.

Got my scan a week today. Excited and a little nervous. Seems like such a long wait!

I don't think I have a preference for gender this time (last time I wanted a boy and got an awesome girl :D ) - we probably won't find out, we didn't last time either.

mrsb Sorry you've had such a rough time of it, that sounds awful. I've been nauseous for weeks on end but not actually vomiting. Hope you are starting to feel better. In my experience, first trimester is DEFINITELY the worst bit. (Last two or three weeks are pretty hideous too but at least everyone knows you're pregnant then and looks after you!)

helen glad you finally got your period! Wow what a wait…. hope things settle down for you this cycle!

Kiki glad you're starting to feel better. First trimester is no joke! I am also shitting myself about twins. I just have no idea how you would do twins & toddler - I would never work again! Still I have no bump yet and I think you get that early with twins! I feel a little bigger in the evenings but I am still in my normal clothes - last time I was for quite a while - till about 20 weeks I think - but I had lots of friends who were in maternity clothes from 5 or 6 weeks, and they didn't get particularly big over the whole pregnancy. It's all very random! I am too superstitious to get my box of mat clothes down from on top of the cupboard until a bit later!! :D

Hazelbrowneyes Thu 13-Mar-14 08:45:30

Ah H I am SO pleased you’re on CD2 today! Brilliant news. grin

I’m using OPKs in the afternoon. It’s working well for me. I tend to get home around 5ish so I have my last drink and wee at work around 3.30/4pm then I wait until 5.30/6pm before I PIAC. Yesterday’s line was definitely darker than the day before but still not quite as dark as the control line. I am only CD11 though.

Temping as well although I’m a bit clueless as to what I’m doing there!

I’m feeling pretty good actually. I’ve got a stressful few months ahead and I’m worried about falling pregnant in that time and the stress making me mc so I’m very much if it happens, it happens and if it doesn’t, it’s not the end of the world. I do feel better now I’m doing my OPKs, mainly because I should have a better idea as to when AF/BFP will arrive.

I’m eating better and drinking less too. I’m considering cutting out booze altogether. I had a few glasses of cava last night and woke up at 3am with horrendous palpitations and reflux. Same happened Sunday (when I last had a drink). I just can’t be bothered to deal with that.

lalanic Thu 13-Mar-14 14:02:23

Helen the thought of you breaking open bottle to celebrate made me smile but it's totally understandable! I would go with the idea of taking it easy and seeing what happens, the doctors say it is better to dtd every 2 days through month rather than focus only on ovulation.

Kiki let us know how you get on - how very exciting!

Lady totally agree about the smiley face ones - they made me feel like I'd just won a prize or something!

Those of you who are pregnant how long after you were due did you get a bfp result?

lalanic Thu 13-Mar-14 14:05:03

Weebairn I didn't see your message - good luck to you too for scan! Must finally feel real smile

misskgb Thu 13-Mar-14 17:02:58

Yaaaaaaay helen!!! Doing a little dance for u!! Id go with every 2-3 days throughout if u can. Worked for me :-)

Lalanic-I was due on the Friday but had awful nausea so poas on sunday n got a feint but definitely there line. Told dh I needed to know to help me cope with the nausea!!!

Always thought id want a boy (im not girly in the slightest) but my niece is now 2 n has taught me girls aint so bad. Also thought I wouldn't find out what we're having but considering it now as I want to go n buy lots of beautiful clothes n bits so that its not always in beige when it arrives!

binkybunny Thu 13-Mar-14 19:18:30

Hi all. Yay to Helen and damn right on the Prosecco!

weebairn glad to hear you are feeling better. Thought I was too but sick all day yesterday and fell asleep at my desk this afternoon blush You must be so so excited for your scan mines two weeks today!

Kiki whens your scan? I'm on my phone so cant scroll back.

lalanic I tested 3 days before af due and got a bfn then tested exactly a week after bfn and got 3 bfps smile

We are convinced we're having a boy but at the moment I'll just be happy with either. Have not stressed too much as we had a 6 week scan but now 12 weeks is getting closer I'm scared my little tadpole won't have grown!

binkybunny Thu 13-Mar-14 19:22:23

kiki just seen your scan is tomorrow so excited for you, let us know how it goes!!!

binkybunny Thu 13-Mar-14 19:22:28

kiki just seen your scan is tomorrow so excited for you, let us know how it goes!!!

lalanic Thu 13-Mar-14 19:52:50

The sickness sounds awful - I'm praying if I get pregnant it won't be bad enough to not be able to look after my animals as I can't afford to pay someone to do it! Are you actually physically sick or is it nausea?

It's lovely to hear you all getting excited about your scans :-)

I'm hoping my lack of af is a positive, been 6 days now. Mum's told me to try to not think about it (as if!).

Hope scans all go OK xx

Lolly84 Thu 13-Mar-14 20:54:54

Good luck lalanic!

Glad to hear AF has arrived Helen.

Having a dramatic 2ww, well it's 2ww for AF as don't think we dtd too early this month, meant to do it after smiley face but DH was under a lot of pressure with work. In a way it feels nice to not symptom spot.

So my drama... Was in a car crash last night after work, what a fright I got. A lady drove straight into me at a round about. No one was seriously hurt and feel really lucky. Car is probably a write off. Xx

lalanic Thu 13-Mar-14 21:30:23

lolly that's awful how scary! So glad you're OK x

mrsb87 Fri 14-Mar-14 07:46:28

Oh dear lolly I hope you're not hurt? Someone did the same to me a couple of years ago, I was shaken up for a good few days. I'd just had a new battery, tyres and wipers fitted and I was on my way back from picking it up hmm.

Good luck for your scan today kiki, I hope everything goes well and your little bean is growing nicely.

lalanic a lot of women get just nausea or sickness at certain times of the day or if they smell things that don't agree with them. My sense if smell has gone into hyper drive but since Sunday I seem to be coping with it better. Hyperemesis is quite rare so I wouldn't worry about it too much.

1 week til scan!

Waves to everyone helen weebairn binks misskgb

mrshjb Fri 14-Mar-14 09:01:09

Morning everyone!

Kiki, let us know how your scan goes smile Mrsb, bet you can't wait for yours!

Lolly, hope you're ok, being on the road with other complete idiots is so scary sometimes isn't it. I think I would be so nervous driving a child around!

Lalanic- I hate the try to relax or not think about it advice. As well as these people mean, it's such useless advice isn't it! I prefer practical, realistic advice!!

Hope all you pregnant people who are feeling a bit ropey start to feel better soon. Does the nice weather and a bit of fresh air help at all?

Haha glad the Prosecco thing made you all laugh. Suppose you don't need too much of a reason to drink a bottle! Keep thinking we need to get rid of all our wine before I can't drink it....!!! (that's my excuse and I'm sticking to it) Yeah I have decided to do the OPKs just for curiosity really, but will be DTD every 2-3 days and will continue throughout the cycle even if I get a positive because I still think they might lie to me! Hope things are more normal this cycle but can't be too sure!

Anyways Happy Friday everyone smile

KikiThePea Fri 14-Mar-14 12:41:56

Hello everyone! Hope you're all well - particularly you, Lolly - that crash sounds horrendous!

Just got back from the scan - amazing! Also I apparently have the wriggliest baby the sonographer has ever seen - seriously, the little bean looked like it was competing in gymnastics; legs and arms flying everywhere.

Aside from its inability to sit still....everything looks perfect and we've now been given a due date of September 23rd. We thought we were at 12 +2, and baby is the size of a 12+3 bean. Next scan all being booked for around 29th April and we walked away (within half an hour!) with three lovely little photos.

Importantly there was only one baby in there - the look on DH's face when he realised was one of utter relief! Haha!

mrshjb Fri 14-Mar-14 13:19:22

Aww amazing news smile So glad it went so well and that there is only one baby in there!!! September is a great birthday too smile Congratulations!

binkybunny Fri 14-Mar-14 13:19:59

Awww Kiki I'm so happy for you that must have been such an amazing experience. It nearly made me cry! I am so pleased its all good for you- and theres only one grin

mrsb87 Fri 14-Mar-14 13:26:25

Ah that's such great news kiki! You've made me really excited about mine now! I'm glad everything is looking in the right place and all healthy. I bet you're feeling relieved?

lalanic Fri 14-Mar-14 18:26:37

Ahhh so lovely! So glad your scan went well! :-D

Thistledew Fri 14-Mar-14 18:44:35


I'm a new newbie.

I have been lurking a bit on the last thread and thought I might as well come crawling out of the woodwork.

DH and I decided at the beginning of this year to have a go at starting a family. TBH, I am in complete denial about it - I do definitely want to have children and I'm not getting any younger (34) and now is as good a time as any (and DH is really broody grin) but I have to confess that I have never really felt all that broody.

Anyhoo. So I stopped taking the pill at the end of January. Had a withdrawal bleed, and we are now half way through March and I haven't yet had a period.

I am about 80% sure that I am not pregnant now - what with a combination of both DH and I being ill, busy with work and trips away, we have only DTD about once a week since I came off the pill.

So lack of period is more likely to be settling down from the pill or some sort of issue, isn't it? I have had a couple of days when I thought AF was going to come on - slight ache in my abdomen, and I had a couple of days of spotting. I even went out and drank a bit too much wine the other night, so I had better not be P. blush

misskgb Fri 14-Mar-14 21:56:56

Hi thistle. It can take a while for af to come back n even when it does, it can take a lot longer to settle down. Until its settled it can be difficult to work out where u r in ur cycle. Give it time :-)

Sounds beautiful kiki!

Ladies I need your advice. Feeling very tired atm. Trying to eat regularly n get what I need from food but thought about taking something in addition to folic acid. Confused by everything on the shelf so asked the pharmacist. She said not to take anything just yet n not to have iron before 12 weeks. Are any of u pg ladies taking anything? ?

mrsb87 Fri 14-Mar-14 22:09:45

Just the pregnacare misskgb, I was taking prgnacare conception before bfp and after just to finish the packet.

Well a step back for me tonight, after an iffy afternoon of heartburn and severe nausea I vommed this evening sad. Feeling pretty rough again. Oh well I had a good run of 5 full days vom free.

Hi thistle! From what I've read from other ladies on here it can take several months for your cycle to find it's feet again.

Lolly84 Fri 14-Mar-14 23:07:37

Thanks for your messages ladies, will be back soon. Hopefully to some bfp's xx

Gennz Sat 15-Mar-14 02:04:16

hi thistle - I am the same, not v broody at all (I'm 32) but I assume I will be once I'm knocked up (or at least once a baby arrives?!)

I'm in the 2ww at the moment, 5dpo... my cycles have been all over the show since I got my IUD out so I won't be sure exactly when I'm late, if I am... I felt a bit nauseous this morning which was odd, and having a few other potential symptoms but who knows. Bring on next week I say!

lalanic Sat 15-Mar-14 07:34:00

Hi thistle it took 3 months for my periods to come back after stopping pill. From speaking to others it varies from person to person. Worst thing is to be advised to relax but tbh that's the best thing to do as if you stress it can affect your cycle.

Welcome to the thread!

mrshjb Sun 16-Mar-14 09:26:32

Morning everyone. Hoping you're all having a lovely weekend. thistle as many of the other ladies have said, coming off the pill does weird things to your body and it can take a long time for it to settle back down. I came off in October and am still all over the place!

misskgb how are you feeling now? All my friends with kids said the early stage tiredness is a real killer. Hope it passes for you soon.

mrsb87 when's your scan? Bet you're really excited now! Can't believe how fast it's come round!

Gennz welcome back! Did you manage not to go poas crazy last month?! Good luck for this cycle. It must be your turn soon smile

Think AF is probably coming to an end soon for me. On cd5 today. Really hoping this cycle is much less stressful!

lalanic Sun 16-Mar-14 18:11:43

mrshjb such a fantastic week of sun, been sitting in the garden today after breakfast with my newly pg friend. Delighted for her as been a long time coming.

How's everyone?

8 days over now and bfn. Starting to think it's in my head!

Thistledew Sun 16-Mar-14 18:40:18

I think I might have to take a test this week just to reassure myself I'm not pg. I have had absolutely no symptoms, apart from the fact that for about the last week I have been convinced that I am about to get AF because I have had that 'heavy' feeling in my abdomen which usually heralds its arrival. But it hasn't come. Surely I would have some other symptoms by now if I was pg?

mrshjb Sun 16-Mar-14 19:00:05

lalanic guessing you live down south?! Wasn't quite so sunny up here! Have you been off the pill long? Seems like it's normal to have random delayed AFs though from what people say on here. I'm no pro because I was on the pill from 15 to 26!

thistledew no idea tbh. Some people say they get pregnancy symptoms, others seem to get nothing. Probably best to test to put your mind at rest?! Is AF late?

Thistledew Sun 16-Mar-14 20:16:30

Yes, 42 days since my last period. I have been on the pill for about 12 years. I had about a 6 month gap about 7/8 years ago but went back on as I had awful acne.

As I recall, I always had a long cycle and it was never particularly regular so I have no idea of what to expect now.

lalanic Sun 16-Mar-14 20:37:14

mrshjb from scotland but living south just now for work so you guessed right! smile Been off pill since last June and cycle settled by Oct so was pretty regular before this month. Going to wait a few days then test again, not putting life on hold though until I know either way - I'll go to doc this week if I get no joy.

thistle everyone's different - my sis in law went back to normal right away and I took three months. Same with pg symptoms - some get them some don't. welcome to the confusing world of ttc, I guess though if it was simple and not confusing we wouldn't use forums like this :D

If you're curious trying poas and see what happens.

mrshjb Sun 16-Mar-14 21:58:16

thistle ah right. I think it's very common for your first AF off to the pill to be much later than usual. Mine was 56 days after the start of the fake AF. I was always regular when I was younger as well but you just don't know what it's going to be like when you first come off. Hopefully you'll be one of these who are regular straight after your first AF. Of course you might also be pregnant. It does seem to happen to some very lucky people!!

lalanic I heard them saying on radio one what a nice day it was in London! What were you periods like when you first came off the pill? None existent or irregular? I had late AF, then normal AF so when I was late this month I did a lot of looking into late bfps and it seems to be the later you ovulate, the later you'll get your BFP regardless of when you'd expect AF. I think it's like you can have a short luteal phase, so AF comes less than 14 days after ovulation, but that's not enough time to implant and for the HCG levels to rise, so you could well still be in with a chance. Hope that makes sense, it did in my head anyways!! Good luck smile

Gennz Sun 16-Mar-14 22:41:39

Hello all! You're right mrshjb it is nearly my time again ... and I have already poas (all BFN, obv!) and am only 7dpo blush Luckily have some cheapies so it's not nearly as expensive as it was last time.

I am feeling a bit hopefult his month - last month was really a non-starter as AF came really early (24 day cycle) and I had no symptoms at all - I pretty much knew I wasn't preg.

Right now I am 7dpo, CD22 and have sore boobs (at the sides), feeling a bit queasy in the morning (v weird) and yesterday we went out for a pub lunch and there was a dirty ashtray on the other side of the table and I could smell it - usually I am not bothered by smoking at all (am fond of a cheeky ciggy occasionally myself) but this reeked! Never ever happened before. But I can't tell if I'm talking myself into it or not.

I also had an acupuncture session this morning and the acupuncturist (who is meant to be a fertility guru) felt my pulse and says my progesterone is strong which is promising (means I could possibly be preg, but at least it means my hormones are doing what they are meant to be doing).

misskgb Sun 16-Mar-14 23:10:14

Ooooh fx gemnz

Im ok thanks Helen. Just wish april would arrive so I can c the midwife n crack on!! Sickness on n off n tiredness ever present but ploughing through! !

lalanic Mon 17-Mar-14 07:41:28

Good luck gennz!

Af came this morning 9 days late. Sounds stupid but I'm delighted! Was fed up with limbo and pg symptoms had gone so I just knew it wasn't a bfp.

Have told my other half we're going to make concerted effort this next month. The look of joy was a sight to see!

After pill I had 3 months of nothing, then 3 normal cycles then one slightly late. This one must have been even later for ovulation. Going to do opk this time (gaaaaa I hate them!) to help.

Hope everyone has a good day!

mrshjb Mon 17-Mar-14 07:45:13

Love it Gennz, seriously hope that you're pregnant before you go totally crazy wink !! Do you believe in all the alternative therapy stuff then? I've started reflexology to see if it can help my cycles to regulate. Not sure I believe that it will do anything but help me to relax but guessing it can't help. Is acupuncture relaxing?! Always wondered if it was a bit on the painful side!! Fingers crossed for you anyways!!

misskgb hopefully time will fly for you, sure it will. Can't believe it's mid march already!

lady not sure if you are still reading this but if you are, what time of the day did you do your OPKs?! I've read that it needs to be between 10 and 8 but also you're not supposed to wee or drink for the two hours before doing it which makes it a bit hard work!!! I wanted to do it first thing but then I've read that you're not supposed to use fmu, but I always get up to wee in the middle of the night so not sure if that means I can use them?! I've got ICs so they don't really come with instructions or anything!!

mrshjb Mon 17-Mar-14 07:45:40

That's supposed to say can't hurt, not can't help!!!

Ladymillion Mon 17-Mar-14 08:23:46

Hey Helen, hey everyone else, yep still lingering haha...

I did one test in the morning (fmu around 6-7am ish) and then one in the evening (if I was off work that could be anything from 6pm ish, if I'd been at work it'd be more like 9pm).

I am a serious POAS addict! I didn't worry about the timings as such, just made sure the urine wasn't too diluted (I hadn't been to the toilet for at least 3-4 hours and I hadn't drank lots of water). I was paranoid about missing the LH surge as for some women it can occur and then pass really quickly which means the timing of the testing can be crucial.

I would say POAS as often as poss and don't give up, it feels like you'll never get a positive but it can happen at any time in the cycle.

Fx for all you girls, every day I'm checking this thread for exciting news / updates. Lovely bunch of peeps smile

lalanic Mon 17-Mar-14 09:00:03

I think anything that makes you more relaxed and feeling positive - helen reflexology is meant to be excellent for dispersing tension and helping. When I had problems with my uterus I had reflexology and the problems went away really soon afterwards! It was such a massive relief. The lady who did it said she could feel there was something not right in that area (apparently linked to my toe!). I did feel bizarre afterwards but hey, whatever works!

lady me too! The past week poas once a day - my husband thinks I'm nuts!

gennz sending positive vibes your way

mrshjb Mon 17-Mar-14 11:42:08

Hi lady thanks for the advice. That's really useful. I wrote on another thread to a girl who said she'd not had periods for 3 months after coming off the pill and told her about me having 3 periods since october and how the dr said it was normal. Someone wrote back basically saying it wasn't normal, I probably wasn't ovulating and that the dr probably didnt know what she was on about and I need to go back!!! I've come across this person on a few different threads and she's always doing the same lecturing and scaremongering , really gets on my nerves!!! Plenty of women with irregular periods and long cycles get pregnant don't they. Anyways rant over!!

Lalanic, how weird is that! I really hope it works for me too! How often did you go?

Ladymillion Mon 17-Mar-14 16:23:50

Haha lalanic my partner thinks I'm a POAS nut job as well!

Helen people like that annoy me so much... You come to places like this to share experiences, you don't expect to be scared to half to death in the process! I read somewhere that said it was pointless using OPKs with irregular / long cycles but obviously this is wrong info. Everyone is different and what works for one may not work for another. I do know that women with PCOS might not find OPKs useful as they can have multiple surges in a cycle but might not actually ovulate. But otherwise I think they are great (I didnt understand the whole temping thing, have you tried that?)

mrshjb Mon 17-Mar-14 18:17:25

Lady I know yeah. I think sometimes the problem with MN is that it's a higher concentrated group of people who have had problems/ bad experiences. I presume this person has had problems with her periods and doctor in the past so she's just trying to share her experience and help other people, but she needs to realise there are far more people who it doesn't signify serious problems for and like you say, everyone is different. My final point is the way it comes across as well, it's not like it's polite and she's offering help, it's a rude, patronising lecture!!! angry

I'm probably being a bit touchy because this one directly relates to me, but I have been quietly seething about her since I joined MN!!!

Anyways.... nah I've never trying temping. I read about it online and it seems like it's a lot of effort seen as you have to take your temp as soon as you wake up and then record it and track it. I think I would only go down that route if I had long term problems with my cycles. I seriously hope I don't though, but only time will tell!!

Ladymillion Mon 17-Mar-14 19:35:57

Yep I often see rude, bossy comments on here, it's just uncalled for. None directed at me (yet) but I imagine I'd feel just as peed off as you are haha!

I agree about temping, I was only going to try that after I'd tried OPKs first! Seems like such a ball ache!

Gennz Mon 17-Mar-14 20:34:48

I am totally a POAS addict (as you all know!) but I think it's good to test at least twice a day with OPKs - maybe not every single day between periods, but definitely at the time you think it might happen. The first time I used OPKs I got the strong + line in the morning, even though they say to wait to afternoon - I checked again that afternoon & it was almost gone so if I'd waited I definietly would have missed it. Just buy a whole lot of cheapie test strips.

mrshjb I am not really into all that alternative therapy stuff (for example I will be all about drugs & giving birth in a hospital - no home birth with whale music for me!) but from what I can tell acupuncture seems to be acknowledged by doctors as being credible so I thought I'd give it a go. (Plus I've always wanted to try it so it's a good excuse!) In any case, he basically told me to chill out and is concentrating on treating my sleeping problems more than any fertility issues!

Oh and that is so rude re that person telling you there is something wrong! It took a full year for my periods to completely regulate (after 2.5 years on the pill, and 5 years on depo provera before that). I was a bit worried but my doctor said that basically my cycle had been "switched off" for so long it would need a wee while to sort itself out. And it did. 3 period since October after a while on the pill sounds totally normal to me.

Gennz Mon 17-Mar-14 20:35:47

I am definitely not temping unless I'm still TTC this time next year! Way too lazy for that.

Lolly84 Mon 17-Mar-14 21:40:17

Hey ladies, watching one born every minute and thought I would say hello.

Nothing to update on the ttc front so been quiet. I was going to have a break in April from ttc but think this month has been a rest month. My sister and hubby are over during ov time so not sure how we will get on with that lol.

Hope you are all getting on well.xx

mrshjb Tue 18-Mar-14 06:51:00

Gennz thanks for that it's made me feel loads better. As much as I knew she was being unreasonable I did start to feel a bit sorry for myself again last night!! Hahaha laughed at the 'whale music'! I think if the reflexology doesn't work, I'll try acupuncture. I think you're right, it's more about relaxing than anything else!! You'll have to keep us informed how you're getting on. Yeah I have just ordered 50 from eBay so think I'll try twice a day when I can. Only on cd7 at the minute so probably going to leave it until the end of the week to start testing.

Lolly good to hear from you. How are you finding watching one born every minute? I've recorded the whole series but not actually started watching it yet. I'm worried it will make me want a baby more or frighten me to death. I thought about saving it to watch when I was pregnant but DH said if there was anything on it about births going wrong etc, it would do more harm than good so I don't know what to think really!!

mrsb87 Tue 18-Mar-14 08:21:59

Hi guys! Looks I've missed a lot of chat, just been catching up.

I've heard from a few people on here that reflexology worked for them when ttc, but like gennz said it was focusing on other problems primarily and helped relax everything so conception seemed to happen more naturally. I got given a lovely holistic back, neck and shoulder massage from my bro and sister in law this weekend, they say it's for when I start getting creeky! Hehe.

Oooh I need to catch up on obem from last night, I missed it!

Aahhhh cycles are always difficult subjects, there ia always someone who thinks they are a know it all but everyone's cycles are very different especially after taking contraception for so long. My periods were never regular and I still managed it! I think I know who you're on about though girls, she used to make my blood boil!

Hazelbrowneyes Tue 18-Mar-14 15:07:26

Hmm, I think I may have missed ovulation blush

I'm on CD16 and still patiently waiting for the little line on the OPK to be the same colour as the control line. Except I think it may have happened on CD12. We examined the OPK and part of the line was as dark as the control line, but the other half wasn't. we dtd anyway

Since then the OPK has been getting lighter, almost unable to see the test line at all. Now I've just noticed that my CM has gone creamy. So I'm guessing I may have ovulated on CD12.

I'll carry on using the OPKs for a few more days as I had a 34 day cycle last month but I'm expecting it to just be negative.

I thought OPKs would stop all this wondering. I was obviously wrong. grin

lala5 Tue 18-Mar-14 15:33:51

hazel I get the same problem! I like the ones with the smiley faces as they are so much easier to read smile I've just ordered another box of 20 (expensive!)

Lolly84 Tue 18-Mar-14 16:27:48

hazel I am with lala only problem was I knew I was ov and didn't dtd as hubby was stressed. Know my body a bit better and know I ovulate later than expected. I have a 30 day cycle normally.

helen it makes me more broody! I love obem, I think it gives you a good insight into the whole thing. I don't think it would put you off at all. There are some complications but I suppose they want to show you the real pic. I cry every time. My sis will be going through all of this very soon so excited for her.

5 or 6 days until AF... This is such a boring time.

On the cycle front it is a very hard thing to discuss as everyone is so different. I am regular as clockwork and ttc is not straightforward where my sis had coil and got pg on first attempt and she is 5 years older than me. All we can do is try all month and hope for the best. I think after 6 months I will go to doc for a chat. Let's hope I don't have to do that.


misskgb Tue 18-Mar-14 17:43:36

Love the obem chat-I love watching it. Ive said previously that I hold my breath during it a lot!! Noticed I cry at it more now im pg but just makes me excited to see what my little rice krispie will be like! Dh still refuses to watch it. He says he'll cope with it at the time from the head end!! :-)

Lolly84 Tue 18-Mar-14 18:27:24

Lol Misskgb think my DH will do the same. X

Gennz Tue 18-Mar-14 20:20:56

Oh I looove OBEM. It hasn't been on here for a while - I knew I was getting clucky when I started crying when the babies were born every single time!

I am 9dpo/CD24 today - BFN this morning but not too worried, it's probably too early. I have noticed my fingernails getting really long and very strong this week - might be a good sign? (then again might be the folic acid).

mrshjb Wed 19-Mar-14 08:04:30

Morning everyone!!

I tried to make DH watch it last night but I think he's pretty determined that he's not going to watch it. He just said he doesn't need to know about stuff that could go wrong because he'll be worried enough as it is, but he thinks it's a good idea for me watch because then I'll know more about what to expect!! Might get started on them at some point!!

mrsb87 I'm guessing it's the same person because on the whole time I've been on MN she's been the only one who has repeatedly been a cow to people!! When's your scan?

Thanks for all cycle comments. I'm just seriously hoping I settle down a bit now. I'm not bothered about being regular to within a few days, but I'm not really looking forward to the prospect of another 55 day cycle!!

Gennz I love how optimistic you are every month. I've seen so many bfns over the last few months I don't think I could face any more!! Don't know when I'll pluck up the courage to test this month, if it comes to that anyways!!

Hazel booooo to the confusing OPKs. I was hoping that they would give me some kind of order to it all, but I also have the cheap ones so maybe I'll be in the same boat at some point. Probably best to just dtd from a week or so before ovulation just to cover all angles?!

Hazelbrowneyes Wed 19-Mar-14 08:23:31

I have renewed hope H! I noticed my CM was a bit more fluidy last night, then had some cramps in right side (3 months in a row on the that normal?) which woke me up. This morning my temperature had gone up too. Fingers crossed tonights OPK is a positive one!

mrsb87 Wed 19-Mar-14 09:10:40

helen my scan is on friday morning!! I seriously can't wait. Nausea has calmed down loads over the past few days so I think I'm on the up now. Had pizza, chips and salad for tea and it was scrummy! still suffering with heartburn in the evening and my sense of smell is still mad.

Dh isn't too keep on obem, I still make him watch it though!

mrshjb Wed 19-Mar-14 09:43:54

Fingers crossed Hazel! Not sure, I seem to get the pains in my left side only but don't even know if I'm ovulating properly so cant help you there!!

Ooh that's good news Mrsb. Bet you can't wait for your scan. Does it feel like it's come round fast for you?

mrsb87 Wed 19-Mar-14 09:56:46

It honestly feels like a lifetime helen! I think if I was at work as normal it would have been a lot quicker, ive been at home nearly 2 months though so its dragged. I'm going back to work next week though and starting back doing a couple of short shifts to start off with for a couple of weekals. Can't wait to get back to normal! !

mrshjb Wed 19-Mar-14 10:54:14

Oh wow yeah that's a long time to be off work feeling rubbish isn't it. Have you got any signs of a bump yet?!

misskgb Wed 19-Mar-14 11:33:09

I don't know how u ladies can tell what pains are related to ov-I never really noticed anything! ! Would be interested to see what thats like! !

Exciting mrsb not at all jealous. .....I just do not feel pg yet, apart from the painful boobs!!

mrshjb Wed 19-Mar-14 11:37:21

Misskgb- it's not that I knew it was, just that it was in that area at the right time and I didn't get it whilst I was on the pill!

It's kinda good to hear you don't have any symptoms because so many people seem to rule themselves out if they don't feel any different!

mrsb87 Wed 19-Mar-14 11:39:40

No bump as such but my trousers are definitely getting tighter around the middle which is weird considering I've been so sick.

weebairn Wed 19-Mar-14 15:04:29

hello lovely ladies hope you are doing well - I think of you often.

Over 12 weeks now and scan tomorrow - eek!

I'm on night shifts at the mo and so tired… night shifts and pregnancy do not go. Sickness and tiredness come in waves rather than constantly now, hope they are completely gone soon. I am still in my normal clothes and boobs no bigger but trousers getting a bit tighter - no bump though! mrsb So pleased to hear your awful sickness has finally calmed down. Hope the return to work is ok. You've had such a rough time!

I've never had acupuncture but I do love a massage and have one every few months. And I did have my baby at home grin though there was no whale music grin grin. Didn't watch OBEM last time I was pregnant as wanted to stay positive! Watched absolutely loads postnatally though curled up during night feeds on my laptop and sobbed at every birth, lol.

Gennz Wed 19-Mar-14 18:21:52

Hi ladies! I tested this morning (10 dpo) and there is the faintest shadow of a line - like so faint that you can only see if if you hold the test up to a lamp, and even then it's v v faint. DH is unconvinced and won't get excited til it'sstronger (if it is actually a line and I'm not going mad). Will keep you posted!

mrsb87 Wed 19-Mar-14 18:43:14

Sounds promising Gennz! Fingers crossed for you x

Gennz Wed 19-Mar-14 20:46:39

Thanks Mrsb! I have felt quite optimistic this time round, my fingernails are growing insanely fast & are super strong, I've developed a weird aversion to prawns which I usually love and I couldn't finish a glass of wine last night! (VERY out of character).

I guess we will know in a few days. Glad to have you girls to tell, DH took a quick look at the test and said "I can't see anything". Gah! Well I have squinted at a LOT of these things over the last 3 months, given my POAS addiction and I know when I can see something! (Must admit it's verrrry faint, almost imperceptible to the naked eye ... only a seasoned pro could make it out...)

binkybunny Wed 19-Mar-14 21:00:26

Hi all just popping in to say good luck with your scan weebairn and sounding good gennz!

Also loving OBEM since got pregnant!

mrshjb Wed 19-Mar-14 21:03:27

Ooooh Gennz, if anyone knows how a pregnancy test stick looks from every possible angle, light and with a variety of different levels of squinting it's you, so fingers crossed your expert eyes aren't tricking you!!!! When's the next POAS?!

Gennz Wed 19-Mar-14 22:26:48

Tomorrow of course mrsh! As if I could wait any longer!!

mrshjb Thu 20-Mar-14 07:40:51

Haven't quite worked out when your tomorrow is, but I hope it's soon because I'm dying to know!!!!

mrsb87 Thu 20-Mar-14 07:57:24

I want to know now gennz!!

Gennz Thu 20-Mar-14 09:02:22

10pm here! i was going to test again but DH has confiscated the tests until tomorrow, damn him!

mrshjb Thu 20-Mar-14 09:20:38

Hahaha that's so funny! Gutted it's so long until morning for you!! Actually can't wait to find out smile

mrsb87 Thu 20-Mar-14 09:39:36

gennz thats aaaages away. I guess we will have to wait patiently. I'm the most impatient person in the world...

weebairn Thu 20-Mar-14 11:10:51

12 week scan all fine! No twins thank god!! Chilled out baba waved at me a bit and refused to get in the right position to be measured, so I had to go away, drink more water, and then jump up and down...

My due date is 30 September now, which is my toddler's 2nd birthday, how crazy is that?!

binkybunny Thu 20-Mar-14 12:39:54

weebairn that's fantastic! Bet it's a relief that there's only the one in there too. How nice to have a wave grin

mrshjb Thu 20-Mar-14 14:28:11

Aww congratulations that's amazing news! Would be very expensive to have 2 kids birthdays on the same day though!!!

weebairn Thu 20-Mar-14 14:36:40

Thank you smile

On the contrary mrshjb, I'm thinking, joint birthday parties, half the price grin

I'm sure this one will be late just like its sister though!

mrshjb Thu 20-Mar-14 14:55:34

Haha I can see your logic. I used to have joint bday parties with my sister all the time!

How late were you last time?

misskgb Thu 20-Mar-14 15:48:58

Excellent news weebairn Come on Gemnz we're waiting on you!

weebairn Thu 20-Mar-14 16:02:26

"Just" 5 days (felt like an eternity at the time!)

Oooh genz!!! That's so exciting! I think a line is a line, no matter how faint!

Gennz Thu 20-Mar-14 18:25:05

Hi ladies !!! Just tested and there's definitely a line; even DH can see it! Woop woop!!!!!!

Lolly84 Thu 20-Mar-14 18:33:49

Congrats Gennz xx

mrsb87 Thu 20-Mar-14 18:53:04

YaaaaaY congrats gennz, been waiting all day for that thanks

mrshjb Thu 20-Mar-14 19:33:41

Woohoo amazing news!! Congratulations smile how many dpo are you today?

binkybunny Thu 20-Mar-14 20:13:41

Yay gennz congratulations!

Gennz Thu 20-Mar-14 20:37:37

Thanks everyone! You are the only ones who know apart from DH! I have no idea how I will keep it under wraps, I work in media and it's a very drinky drinky kind of a workplace so I'm sure everyone will figure it out within a week. Very exciting though! It doesn't feel real at all.

I am 11dpo today mrs h. I definitely had a suspicion from about 7dpo that I might be knocked up - the super strong finger nails were weird, and I've been feeling a bit queasy since about 1dpo! (Really hope this isn't a bad omen for morning sickness... )

Ladymillion Thu 20-Mar-14 21:06:30

Gennz massive congratulations!! thanks

Hazelbrowneyes Thu 20-Mar-14 22:10:36

Amazing news Gennz! Congratulations!

In my world....I got a positive today...on an OPK grin

Nowhere near as exciting but I took a photo of it I am so excited to know when I ovulated and now I know when BFP is due! April 3rd...I'm counting down the days grin

misskgb Thu 20-Mar-14 22:13:10

Yes gemnz great news!! I felt really queezy the weekend I found out n its been on n off since but fx its come to nothing so far! !

Gennz Thu 20-Mar-14 22:19:35

Thanks lady & Hazel! Congrats Hazel on the OPK, get busy!

mrshjb Fri 21-Mar-14 07:48:05

Good stuff Gennz, really pleased for you!

Hazel I did the exact same thing the month I used them and I know I will do the same thing again this month if I get a positive!!

I was thinking this thread really proves the 'most people get pregnant within 3 months of trying' thing! Nearly all of the original girls on here got pregnant within the first 3 months and the rest of people aren't at that point yet (I don't think)! To be honest, when I look back, I don't think I had any chance of getting pregnant since we first started trying. Not convinced I ovulated the first month, had way too much spotting and random bleeding the second month and then stopped dtd way too early on the last month given the fact I had a double length cycle to what I thought I was going to! So hoping I have more chance this month and that can be my month number 1 of properly trying!! Last night have a bit of a 'my body isn't working and I'm never going to get pregnant' moment, really hoping this month proves me wrong!!!

Hazelbrowneyes Fri 21-Mar-14 09:20:30

H We will get there. This is cycle 3 for me but cycle 4 off the pill. I've looked at my app and I can conclude the following:

I was shit at knowing when I ovulate grin

To be fair, I knew on month 1 (didn't try this month) so didn't try around that time. January we DTD a day either side of ovulation and just didn't get lucky with that. February I completely screwed up with when I ovulated and we dtd too early and stopped too early.

This month we've DTD on CD10, CD12, CD15, CD17, CD18 and I'll probably make sure we DTD again today just incase

I've got cramps today, almost exactly like AF cramps. Will do another OPK tonight.

I've worked out if I get pregnant this month, my due date will be my birthday grin

If I'm not pregnant this month then next month I'll up my game. Will stop drinking completely, eat even better, exercise more, make DH take conception vits for men and anything else I can think of.

I have to say, DH has been great. It's taken years for him to get to the point of wanting a baby but now he's been showing quite an interest, even examining OPKs with me, although looked less than impressed when I shoved yesterdays in his face whilst shouting "OMG, THE LINE LOOKED LIKE THAT WITHIN 5 SECONDS!!" grin

however if he thinks he's drinking next month, he can think again

Lolly84 Fri 21-Mar-14 10:12:32

hazel defo keep dtd! apparently you can ovulate up until 5 days after positive opk. I am sure your an expert but it the opk just recognise the hormone but that's the start of ovulation. I stopped dtd at positive opk because of a stressed and am 100% I am not pg but live I hope lol x FX xx

Lolly84 Fri 21-Mar-14 10:13:06

Because of a stressed hubby x

mrshjb Fri 21-Mar-14 10:43:03

Hazel Haha loving the summary! I think probably a lot of people don't get pregnant for a while because they are wrong about the timing. Realistically, it's really hard to keep going all throughout the month and it doesn't seem like ovulation is an exact science for a lot of people so it makes it a bit difficult to be 100% sure what the hell is going on. Sounds like you've covered every angle with your dates though, especially if you keep going for another few days and usually have a relatively regular cycle! I'm a bit daunted at the prospect of having to DTD for the next 40 odd days!!!

Fingers crossed for your BFP this month then! Yeah I am still having a couple of glasses of wine. I think giving it up would make this whole process even more painful than it already is! I am retrying the conception vitamins, but taking them at night in the hope they won't upset my stomach as much and also got DH on multi vit's. Cheaper and they include zinc etc so hoping that will be good enough!

Haha glad DH is getting in the spirit of things! I did read something that said generally it's stuff that happened 3 months ago that affect egg and sperm quality now because it takes that long for it all to mature. Absolutely no idea if that's true or not but if so means giving up drinking for one month wouldn't make a difference that month?! IT'S ALL SO COMPLICATED AND A BIG FAT HORRIBLE BALL ACHE.

Lolly- there's always a hope I think, which in a way makes it all the harder every month!

Hazelbrowneyes Fri 21-Mar-14 11:10:18

H I keep saying to DH that it is sperm that was produced 3 months ago so he needs to cut down. He really has, actually. Just need to control weekend binges hmm

I'm not hopeful, considering we're now using December's sperm wink

No, Lolly not an expert at all. Will crack on with DTD over the next few days then!

Actually, I was going to ask...should I keep using the OPKs for a few more days?

Lolly84 Fri 21-Mar-14 11:50:49

Oh I didn't know about the sperm thing. Thanks ladies.

Yes Helen defo still hope. Feeling a little AF crampy this morning which is about right if AF is due in 4 days.

Hazel you could use the opk's but not sure there is much point if you know you are about to ovulate. Instead of that you could just go for gold over the next few days. How exciting.

Just calculated that I will have visitors over my next exact ov date. What on earth am I going to do? Might be another missed month. Aaargh.


Ladymillion Fri 21-Mar-14 13:15:18

Hazel I would keep doing the OPKs to see how long your surge lasts... That way you'll hopefully get to know your body better i.e. Does it tend to happen quickly or over the space of a few days wink hopefully it won't be relevant and you'll get your BFP this cycle!

misskgb Fri 21-Mar-14 13:43:55

Remember ladies that sperm can live for about 5 days in you so keep dtd regularly for 5 days before expected ov & a few days after to give yourself the best chance. I never used opks-u all made them sound very confusing! I just put af dates in to pink pad n it told me the 10 days or so when we should be dtd. Obvs did it outside of those too ;-) only other thing I did was put a pillow under my pelvis when possible for 10 mins. Fx for u all, cant wait to hear about your bfps!

Lolly84 Fri 21-Mar-14 16:01:02

Thanks misskgb hope you are good x

mrshjb Fri 21-Mar-14 17:23:09

To the OPK experts.... Do you get a faint line on the ICs and then it gets darker and darker as the days go on? I just did one tonight and there was a very squinty line there, where as yesterday it was totally white. I know it has to be darker than the control to be positive though!

Misskgb, thanks for the advice, I'm just going to dtd regularly regardless of the OPKs but if I get a positive, I might try and squeeze in a few extra just to be on the safe side!!

Just having a glass of sparkling rose. Trying to drink up all our wedding wine before it's too late.... wine is the only thing that makes me glad I'm not pregnant!!!

Lolly- very quick, quiet dtd sessions?!

Hazelbrowneyes Fri 21-Mar-14 17:33:16

Still a positive OPK today. I have no idea if that's normal or not lol
Anyone know?

Lolly84 Fri 21-Mar-14 18:48:58

Helen - I don't use the Ic's but from what I know of the digital one the line got darker and darker from nothing. Do you track your cm or twinges? Again I am no expert but going from what I have heard and my own body you get those a few days before.

Hazel - I think the hormone can show up over a couple of days. I only got my positive on one day. It can stay there from 12 hours to 2 days for some people. Again do you track cm or twinges?

Helen - I will try my best with that. Hopefully my DH will be up for that. Live in a small flat thought where you can hear everything. Eek. Would be a funny story though.


Lolly84 Fri 21-Mar-14 19:26:05

Good idea lady. Mines only lasted 12 hours so good to know but you def have days after that to dtd xx

Ladymillion Fri 21-Mar-14 22:38:52

Hi mrsh, yeah the line should get darker until it's as dark or darker than control line. Mine was faint for 20odd days so I really thought it weren't gonna happen. I think sometimes it can even get lighter before getting darker again; none of those really matter, whether there's no line or a faint it's negative so just keep going until you get that positive wink

Hazel my LH surge lasted for 3 days before finally the test line faded again. I dunno if that means I ovulated after the first positive or whether my body was gearing up to ovulate for the whole 3 days before finally succeeding... God knows!

Gennz Fri 21-Mar-14 23:25:52

OPks are good - it reassured me that I was probaby ovulating and it helped me indulged my poas obsession! I got a nearly-dark line on the Sunday morning but had run out of OPKs so I figured Monday was the day so we DTD Sunday and Monday. I found one I'd forgotten about in a drawer on Tuesday morning and tested but by then the line was gone. So we must have caught it! We'd also DTD the previous Thursday but I think the Sunday was the successful event!

It's a lovely late summer day here and we are on an island where DH's mum has a holiday home (sounds v glam - actually quite rustic here in NZ!) and heading off shortly for a vineyard lunch with friends over from the UK. I will have a glass of wine with lunch but everyone's going to know I'm preggers - normally I can polish off a bottle of wine without blinking blush

misskgb Fri 21-Mar-14 23:26:11

Im good thanks lolly feeling queezy again. They say morning sickness often starts in week 6 n im 6+3 today. Fx it doesn't come to much! They also say to stay away from fatty foods but crisps are the only thing to settle it!!

binkybunny Sat 22-Mar-14 09:25:30

Morning ladies. Hope you're all well and enjoying dtd, pregnancy or glasses of wine (oh wine... I'm missing you!)

misskjb one thing I've learnt from weeks of morning sickness. Eat whatever you can! On the pregnancy thread junk food and carbs seem to be the most popular ways to stop feeling queasy. For me its bacin, fish fingers and potatoes in any form although it changes on a day to day basis!

gennz your weekend sounds amazing. Apart from being pregnant in a vinyard, that sounds a bit like torture!

Have a great weekend smile

binkybunny Sat 22-Mar-14 09:27:28

Oops last line was meant to say everyone but there was an extra gennz in there. Stupid phone!!!

mrshjb Sun 23-Mar-14 17:36:03

Hey everyone, hope you've all had a good weekend. Not much to report here. Started dtd, no positives on the OPKs yet though, not surprising though because I've not seen any ewcm yet! Decided to order a bbt thermometer. Not sure if I'll manage all the temping stuff but thought it will give me something else to observe whilst I painfully wait!! Got reflexology tomorrow and next Monday so hoping that will help and looking forward to relaxing smile

Lolly84 Sun 23-Mar-14 20:04:50

Hey Helen hope the opk's and thermometer help you get to know your body better. Oh that's great you are having reflexology I have heard great things about it.

I don't have much to report apart from AF is due tomorrow. Feeling very crampy. Had sore boobs all month this time but they are at their sorest now ouch. Wish it was the start of the weekend tomorrow so didn't have to face start if AF at work. Normally don't bother but this feels like it's going to be a sore one. Sorry to go on.

Also a bit frustrated at mo but as trying to lose a few lbs to get back to wedding weight which is only half a stone. The up and down emotions of ttc are not helping and finding myself comfort eating a lot. This week will be different though as I am fully prepared food wise so I don't stray. Hubby also wants to shift a few lbs so hopefully he will help.

Wow I needed to vent lol x

misskgb Mon 24-Mar-14 12:38:00

Haha lolly that's what we're here for. Hope it's not af!!

You'll have to let us know what you think to the reflexology Helen

Thanks binky need to up my veg and fruit intake so making an effort with that this week. Will be stopping netball this week or next too until after my rice krispie arrives so got to find some other activity to do to help keep the weight off!

I had a very strange experience last night. Woke up middle of the night with a huge pain in my lower abdomen, down my right leg and all in my back. Pain is actually an understatement. I couldn't lay down, sit, do anything to find comfort other than sit in bed on my knees with my head in my pillow crying in pain. Luckily dh soothed me and got me back to sleep but I was very scared as to what it was!! Feel fine this morning, all be it a little tired!!

KikiThePea Mon 24-Mar-14 12:46:18

Hello all,

Just checking in after being away! Fantastic to see you've had your bfp, Gennz! Congratulations

How's everyone else doing?

misskgb - that pain sounds horrendous! Any idea what could have caused it? I suppose part of the problem is that pregnancy is full of weird and horrible twinges/long periods of discomfort that you're not expecting, but nobody can blame anyone for getting scared or upset at even the slightest moment of pain, and certainly not if you have an experience like you had last night! I'm just about getting used to certain ligaments pulling if I move too quickly - I freaked out the first time it happened!

mrshjb Mon 24-Mar-14 17:01:09

misskgb I'm sure it's absolutely nothing to worry about but a colleague was telling me earlier today how she had an ectopic pregnancy a while back and she was getting shooting pains all down one side before it eventually ruptured and she found out what had happened. Don't want to scare you or look like I'm being excessively negative, but might be worth speaking to a doctor just in case? Like Kiki said I'm sure pregnancy does all sorts of weird things to your body but I'd feel bad if I didn't say anything and it turned out to be something. On plus side if you mention it and they give you a scan you might be able to see little rice krispie early too!

Lolly feel free to have a big vent, sometimes needs to be done doesn't it!! Any sign of AF for you?

Nice to hear from you Kiki, I'm fine, just plodding along! How are you? Any signs of a bump yet?

KikiThePea Mon 24-Mar-14 17:35:04

Hi Helen,

I'm well thank you. Did I read correctly that you've got reflexology coming up? (Phone playing up and can't scroll back!)

I've got a definite bump, which is weird because after feeling so sick for such a long time, the sudden 'ok-ness' of life makes you feel a bit less pregnant (apart from the tiredness and the sudden ravenous hunger!)

misskgb - you can definitely call someone to speak to about any symptoms you're unhappy with. My midwife gave me the mobile numbers of the three community midwives for the area, plus a number I can call 24 hours a day with any concerns I have. I'd always call someone if I was really worried - that's what all these phone numbers are for, after all!

Lolly84 Mon 24-Mar-14 18:12:47

Oh no misskgb that's not good.

Thanks ladies for letting me rant. I have had period cramps all day with no blood (sorry tmi) every time I go to the toilet I am expecting my little visitor. I usually come on at night. She is on her way as I am feeling the normal period pain.

I swear people can't drive where I live, I was a witness to a crash tonight and the lady was 14 weeks pregnant. She was very much ok but very shaken up, what a shame to be put through the stress.

Where you upto Helen 2ww?? Or still dtd?

mrshjb Mon 24-Mar-14 18:21:24

Aw I bet it's nice to see a bump! Has the sickness totally gone now?

Yeah I'm just here now. My appointment is at 6.30. Have got another one next week as well. I have a health care scheme thing through work so I can claim some stuff like this back so thought it was worth a shot! Cant do any harm and it is very relaxing!

Yeah that's really good to have 24 hour lines. Sure it'll be absolutely fine, but worth getting everything checked out I think. Especially when it's your first and you dont quite know what to expect!

mrshjb Mon 24-Mar-14 18:24:05

Sorry Lolly your message only came up when I posted mine. That's awful, I'd be so mad if I was that woman!

Well it's not over until af properly arrives! Plenty of people say they get af like cramps and then get their bfp!

Dtd. Not expecting to OV for at least another week (if I'm lucky anyways!)

Lolly84 Mon 24-Mar-14 18:27:20

Yeh true, not all over. Just feels the exact same as AF. Only difference I have had that's made me think twice is how sore my boobs have been. I will update as soon as I know xx

mrshjb Tue 25-Mar-14 07:55:12

Yeah fingers crossed for you!

I really enjoyed my reflexology. The twice that I have had it, I have had the best nights sleep I've had in ages afterwards. Even if it does nothing for my cycles that has to be a good thing!!

Lolly84 Tue 25-Mar-14 10:56:42

Sounds good Helen.

The witch hasn't arrived but think she is still on her way. I have an average cycle of 30 days and on day 31 so only a day late really. Would only class late as my longest cycle I have had which is prob about 33 days. If she is not here by the weekend I may have to go out and buy my first test. Or she could turn up any minute. Who knows, my body will decide that one lol. Was always never hopeful this cycle because of the lack of dtd. Away for work for the next 2 days, would be helpful for for AF to stay away. X

misskgb Tue 25-Mar-14 12:15:19

Hi ladies

kiki no idea what caused it. managed to get to sleep once my tears ran out and then had a good nights sleep on the whole- i think most people do after a good cry! I don't know if I'm wasting their time calling to say it happened two days ago, but don't want to leave it if it was something!

Helen you have scared me a little but we have to be honest with each other hey! I've got bad back ache today but that might be to do with me coaching last night and getting too cold. Hot water bottle at work to help me through. Netball match tonight (probably last one in a while) and a hot bath after will let me know if I need to calm down a bit!!

Glad you enjoyed the reflexology. I've booked a neck and back massage for Monday! :-)

mrshjb Tue 25-Mar-14 12:30:00

misskgb Yeah I'm not a remote medical expert but it was just after hearing the story from my colleague and then hearing yours. I would probably have rung the doctor, but I worry about everything excessively!! Glad you're feeling better now though smile

Massage sounds good. It's so nice to have some me time every now and then isn't it!!

mrshjb Tue 25-Mar-14 12:30:48

Lolly the wait really is awful isn't it. The time I thought I was waiting for AF that week sent me absolutely insane. Dreading it again this month!!

misskgb Tue 25-Mar-14 13:02:20

So just rang the dox as I know the midwife is in on a Tuesday (given my booking in appt is next Tues- eek!) She was lovely!! She thinks it sounds like a sciatic type problem, maybe a trapped nerve, but wants to check me for a uti due to my kidney problems so am off to see the gp tomorrow. Everything apart from my back pain has gone and it's mainly because of that she wants to check me over. She told me not to worry and was looking forward to meeting me next week grin thanks as always ladies!

KikiThePea Tue 25-Mar-14 13:39:38

Glad to hear that misskgb - I have a really irritating trapped nerve in my lower back that's come and gone for years. Annoyingly it seems to be more persistent in its attempts to thwart me as of late; I'm going to have a chat with the midwife about it when I see her in a couple of weeks - if you learn how to make it go away between now and then, please let me know! I've solved my general lower back pain issue by making sure I'm always sitting on a pile of cushions and keeping my knees as low as possible, so at least that's something!
Yay for your booking appointment being soon - it's really nice to be able to meet the midwife properly and have a chat about anything and everything.

I'm pleased the reflexology went well, Helen. I've got a few really busy weeks ahead and then I think I'll definitely be treating myself to a massage of some kind. Until then, chocolate will have to suffice as my go-to feel better cure!

mrshjb Wed 26-Mar-14 09:11:07

Hope everything goes well at the doctors misskgb, let us know how you got on! Glad you didn't think I was being a b*tch and trying to scare you to death, not my intention at all!

Kiki sounds good, definitely think pregnancy is the right time to try and pamper yourself!

Nothing to report here, no positives on the OPKS, no EWCM. I had quite a lot last month at this point, but then didn't OV so don't know if it's a good thing or not. That's about it really, other than my thermometer came yesterday, not sure how good I am going to be at the temping business but it will give me something to do to pass the time and I do love a good graph haha!

Lolly84 Wed 26-Mar-14 22:38:10

Hey hope you are all well. So AF has not arrived I am on cd 32. Feel a bit bizarre as not got any AF cramps just feel some dull aches. Might come back though as I felt it full on a few days ago. Feeling very weird and not sure what to think. Busy days at work are keeping my mind off it x

mrshjb Thu 27-Mar-14 06:59:32

Ooh exciting Lolly. When are you going to test?

mrshjb Thu 27-Mar-14 10:10:56
KikiThePea Thu 27-Mar-14 12:28:59

I don't think you were being unnecessarily harsh, Helen - you're perfectly justified to take umbrage to unfounded comments about your health and wellbeing.

This is such a stressful time for everyone here (which is why most people end up on these threads in the first place) that people need to think a little more carefully about how they reply to others. It's all well and good to give advice and to make suggestions - again, another reason why ladies are on here in the first place - but to heavy-handedly inform someone that there is clearly something wrong with them is not a positive, or appropriate, course of action.

The reason I've loved this thread from it's original incarnation is that everyone seemed really grounded and sensible when dealing with the realities of conception, and indeed the subsequent problems associated with ttc, and indeed pregnancy. We all have our hysterical moments, and even though it's pretty much impossible to imagine the difficult situations that some users of this website, and people we know in the 'real world', have been in throughout their periods of ttc, it's a saving grace that most women that I've come across on here have been generally rational and aware that there's a difference between giving gentle advice and stuffing opinions down throats - even when they've experienced tragedies I can't even bear to dwell on.

If I thought there was a problem with my body or my pregnancy I'd love to have people try and explain what the problem could be, and probably gently suggest ways of solving the issue or perhaps giving an account of their own experiences. To be honest, without you girls on here I think I would have gone stark raving mad from the beginning because it's difficult to go through any of this when you're trying so hard to keep it from those you are closest to. However, what I would never want was to be told that there was certainly something wrong with me/I hadn't acted in the correct way/that something I'd innocently done had ruined my chances of ever becoming pregnant (and unfortunately I have seen comments to this effect).

Give advice and tread gently - it's what we all want, and honestly, what we all need at times. Unhelpful comments should be left at the door.

KikiThePea Thu 27-Mar-14 12:29:38

Well, that ended up being lengthier than anticipated. Oops!

mrshjb Thu 27-Mar-14 14:48:28

Thanks for the lengthy reply Kiki!!

You're exactly right. Sometimes I end up ranting to DH about things that I have read and have been said to me on MN and he always says he doesn't understand why I come on. So I say that not everyone is like that and the girls I usually speak to are really nice. I don't think he quite understands how important it is for women to talk to others who are going through the same kinds of things. He also doesn't worry at all so he doesn't understand why I am worried. I just think it's a real shame that there are women out there who feel it's appropriate to make insensitive comments and try to unduly upset and worry other women.

Like you said and I said to her, if she said this is my experience and I found that often you have to push Doctors to do further tests etc, then that would be really useful. But saying your Doctor is clearly rubbish, I know better and there's definitely something wrong with you, is totally unhelpful and probably highly inaccurate. It's really awful if you've come across people who have been told that they have negatively affected their long term ability to conceive as well. I really don't know what would possess anyone to ever say something like that to someone.

I think the lesson learned here for me is to stick to threads where there is clear evidence that the women who write on it are helpful, supportive and respectful of each other. The last thing in the world I need right now is more pressure and worry!

So to ask you lot the question I was trying to ask on a different thread.... What do you think I should do about the irregular periods? My tests show that my thyroid levels are normal and the doctor was happy with my LH and FSH levels at the time of the tests- albeit it seems to be that these really need to be done on day 2 to make much sense. My BMI is 19.6, I have no problems with acne or any other 'typical' pcos symptoms. I had about 4 years of normal periods before going on the pill for 10 years. I've had 3 AFs since coming the pill in October last year. Two at 55 days and 1 at 29 days. I've been doing OPKs this month but haven't had a positive yet- but the month I did get a positive it was in the middle of the day and gone by evening, so I don't know if I am missing it by doing them first thing in the morning and in an evening. I've also had no EWCM yet. But last month I had loads and seemingly didn't ovulate, then if I did ovulate roughly 14 days before AF arrived, I didn't get any symptoms then.

Sorry for the rambling and the summary of stuff you lot already know, but there's been a lot of discussion in between all the stats so wouldn't blame you for forgetting! Reading it all back through, I think the obvious thing I need to do is relax and just wait it out for another few months. But it's really bloody hard!

Anyways ramble over!

Lolly84 Thu 27-Mar-14 19:09:19

Hey Helen, I am feeling very funny about testing and can't bring myself to buy a test. Is that weird? People normally test early. Who knows what I will do as still no af and always regular.

I shared my experience of bleeding between periods. I actually was bleeding at ov time. Turned out to be a polyp. Could have been anything from cancer top pcos to nothing. Doctor did a few blood tests, urine tests and after 2 visits got me booked into a transvaginal ultrasound (google for more info) she was able to look at ovaries. She offered this bit before I went in my sis (who is a nurse) told me to demand an ultrasound. Luckily didn't have to in the end which was good. I was very yearly as I have a bad family history cancer wise and pcos. It was good to have someone have a good look at womb and ovaries. Put my mind at rest. I would recommending demanding the scan just to see. I'm on my phone on this sorry if it doesn't make sense xx

misskgb Thu 27-Mar-14 19:37:17

Lolly- I did a test day before af n was negative but two days late was bfp so if ure late id say do it :-)

Helen-haven't been on the link u sent but from what ure saying, some ppl just aint in the real world. I was really grateful u said something to me the other day even if it was scary. Ive no idea what im doing even tho I have a childcare degree-they don't teach u these things!!!

So on that front. Doc did a dip stick test n all levels seem fine, no blood so looks ok. They're sending it off just to b on the safe side but don't need any antibiotics or anything. Can't wait for midwife on tues :-)

Seriously ladies-so glad to have u all here n helping each other. Keep it up!!

Lolly84 Thu 27-Mar-14 19:47:34

Thanks Misskgb I just feel like I don't want to get my hopes up. How did u feel when af was late? Did u feel crampy?

Lolly84 Thu 27-Mar-14 19:48:00

Ps glad ur ok x

weebairn Thu 27-Mar-14 20:18:57

I don't think you said anything wrong Helen. I was on mumsnet a couple of years ago with my first pregnancy and it's a funny old place. Some bits of it are very supportive (the antenatal threads seem to be) and other bits are actually savage!! (especially "Am I Being Unreasonable?") It's all very funny until it's you someone's having a go at, about something personal, on a difficult day, then it's horrible. I find my own little safe pockets and stick to them. This thread is lovely. I also found the breastfeeding thread helpful, and the sleep one (for later on!)

And as for your question - honestly, it sounds shit, but I would give it the year. A year is a perfectly normal time to conceive. If you can't wait that long and if you feel like how would I know how you feel, I absolutely understand, but, medically - at your age and in perfect health - I'd give it the year.

God it's so easy to say isn't it!! Can you plan lots of boozy holidays…

Lolly I couldn't bear to do an early test because I was so anxious about the thought of getting an early BFP that then ended in a normal period - in the end I tested a week late. You're not alone! When I got my BFP I felt absolutely normal - no PMT symptoms at all. Sickness etc kicked in about a week later.

Also, whatever you do or don't do and whenever you test will not change if you are pregnant or not!!

Fingers crossed for you. xxx

Lolly84 Thu 27-Mar-14 21:44:19

Great advice weebairn, I did think I was being weird. I have chose not to have tests in the house. I am sure if I did I wouldn't have resisted! I'm on cd33 so tomorrow will be cd34 only 3-4 days late. I get waves of slight cramps and can't get enough water. I am also feeling slightly shakey like I haven't had enough food. I got normal AF symptoms, sore boobs and cramps. Now dull cramps. Will be dissappointed if this leads to a BFN but like you say whatever will be will be. Told my DH today that I am late and he has kept my feet on the ground by being very realistic which is good. Xx

misskgb Thu 27-Mar-14 23:48:14

I try not to read too much into my cramps as I get them with my bad kidneys all the time but I felt feint n queasy like I was gonna pass out or throw up. I was gonna wait til I was 4 days late but decided I could only cope with feeling so sick if I knew it was for a good reason!

Helen. It is hard advice to give and to take but it can and does take time. Even people who have never been on the pill can take time to get a bfp.

We know most docs don't test until you've been trying around a year so unless yours is very sensitive they may say its too early. I'd just relax, take it easy, enjoy dtd when/where/how ever u can n not worry about catching ov n plotting/tracking everything. I do honestly think a more enjoyable n relaxed approach is more positive xxx

Lolly84 Fri 28-Mar-14 06:57:23

It's almost that feeling misskgb especially when I come out the shower. Who knows?? Still not testing just yet...

helen just wanted to be sure on the message I sent. My advice is if you are worried about your body as in reproductive system from a health point of view I would ask for a scan. I wasn't ttc when I was having irregular bleeds so went from a point of view of being worried in general. It's frustrating as we don't really know what is really going on with our bodies especially with our womb and ovaries. The more I googled the more I got myself into a state. It kinda spiralled. If you can put it to one side and relax about ttc there will be no need. I am sure everything will be fine but only you know how you are really feeling.

I have always stuck to this thread as when I looked at it a few weeks before I started to comment I got a really good feeling about it. I sometimes look at other threads but feel like there is a bit of winding up going on. On this thread there is no one that has said to each other 'you are defo pregnant' or you are 'defo not pregnant' it has been more of a empathetic supportive chat.

mrshjb Fri 28-Mar-14 07:04:26

Morning ladies,

Thank you all so much for the awesome advice as usual. I think I'd let obsessive googling and that silly woman get under my skin. I had a chat to DH last night and we have decided we're going to keep dtd as often as possible etc, but we're going to accept that it could well take a year. If after the year I have no luck then I'll go to the doctors. I'm giving up on the OPKS because I really hate peeing in a cup every day. I'm going to keep on with the temping for a bit, because to be honest I find it quite interesting, but I'm not going to be look for any trends or anything for a good few months yet! I'm also not going to generally look through the threads like a used to. I'm just opening MN to go on this one and that's it! So keep chatty ladies smile

Lolly- I absolutely know what you mean. After last month and thinking I was going to get my BFP and then seeing countless bfns, I was absolutely gutted so I think I would be really nervous about taking a test as well. If I was you I'd probably give it until you're a week late and then test, because you know you're pretty much definitely going to get a true answer then. If you're not usually late then signs are looking good, but there are countless threads on here where people just end up being late. So for sanity I think you have to stay rational but keep everything crossed. Really hope it's your time.

Misskgb- so glad that everything looks alright at the doctors. Also really glad you didn't take my comment the wrong way. I typed and deleted it about 5 times before I posted it. I think as good as advice is from other people sometimes, you know your body the best and therefore if you don't think there's anything wrong, I think there's a good chance there probably isn't.

So pregnant ladies, who's finding out what their having when the time comes?!

mrshjb Fri 28-Mar-14 07:05:50

Argh ** they're having

weebairn Fri 28-Mar-14 07:06:17

It all sounds very promising Lolly!!

Lolly84 Fri 28-Mar-14 08:22:43

Ah thanks for you support ladies.

helen you sound like you are in a great place. I think you have said before you are always organised and pretty much in control. I feel
like that, it's frustrating you can't control this isn't it?

If I get a bfn I am going to continue my plans I did last month as I have been very happy and any emotional moments.

Good luck, must get to work lol x

Hazelbrowneyes Fri 28-Mar-14 10:19:55

Hi all,

I'm feeling blahhhhhh today. 7dpo and convinced it's not going to happen this month. I'm also feeling super guilty because I have consumed a ridiculous amount of alcohol this week and I spent last night unable to sleep thinking that if I'm not pregnant this month it'll be all my own fault.

I've resolved to have a dry April, no matter what. I'm trying for a baby, FFS - I need to cut out the booze.

No symptoms at all so now patiently awaiting the arrival of AF next week. I was going to test on Sunday but I'll only be 9dpo so I've decided that'll be a bit silly!

Who knew TTC would be such a rollercoaster from early on? I had great thoughts that I'd be really chilled over it all. Yeah, right! I also have visions of me being beautiful, serene and enjoying pregnancy - given the fact I can't do beautiful and serene now, I doubt I'll manage it when pregnant! grin

misskgb Fri 28-Mar-14 10:57:16

Hazel- it doesn't get much easier when you do get your bfp.....nerves, worry, is this ok, am i doing that right, keeping it a secret- it's like still being in the ttc whirlwind but with a different focus! I had half a bottle of wine two days before my bfp, the first time I'd drank between OV and AF due date. I think my more relaxed state that month helped so don't feel guilty about it- we still have lives to lead.

Helen- you sound really positive and that'd great- good on you. Don't be afraid to speak up to us or DH if you do have a baby crazy month or anything- it'll feel better if you talk about it. Enjoy dtd too! wink

So I always thought i'd wait for the baby to come before finding out but I just want to buy everything now!! Me and DH are thinking we might find out but (try) not to tell anyone. Two of my friends now know despite us saying we wouldn't tell anyone, so who knows how that will pan out. Best intentions and all that!

Lolly- when you do find the time to do it that's right for you, I have everything crossed it's the outcome you want (although I may not be able to keep everything crossed until the day you do it- they don't lie when they say you pee more when pg!!)

Hazelbrowneyes Fri 28-Mar-14 11:19:02

Thanks misskgb, that makes me feel better!

Thinking about it, I have had symptoms. Well, actually I don't know if they're symptoms but my body has been strange. Today my right nipple is achey, both nipples are quite red (well they were yesterday, I haven't checked today. I caught a look of myself in the mirror and was quite shocked at how red they were!) and my skin has itched like crazy for a few days. Woke up like it Tuesday morning and couldn't sleep Tuesday night as my legs were so itchy. It lasted until Thursday morning and now I'm fine again! I've also noticed cm and I've definitely felt "wet" especially at night. I'm really hot at night as well which is odd for me.

Still, no actual symptoms that scream "PREGNANT!" grin

KikiThePea Fri 28-Mar-14 11:56:45

Lolly - I really hope you get your bfp soon. Well done on holding out on buying tests - I was terrible. Seriously....I stockpiled. DH was torn between horrified and amused.

weebairn and misskgb - how are things going for you two in general? I've finally managed to get a good night's sleep. I've always slept on my front (terrible, I know), but it's too uncomfortable to do so now, plus I better train myself out of it quickly and get sleeping on my side! I tried piling up pillows in various positions, but even in a giant bed that still shoved poor old DH all the way to the edge, so I caved and bought a pregnancy pillow, and oh dear me it's my favourite thing at the moment. I feel I have reached new heights of ridiculousness by proclaiming this to people...

Hazel - As we all know, bodies are weird, but I really hope this is your bfp on its way! The being hot at night thing is one of the main things that happened to me. I made a number of posts about ridiculously hot legs back when it started - very strange, and very, very, warm.

Helen - I'm really glad that you're staying positive about the whole thing. Definitely give up the OPKs if they're annoying you, but I'm sure the temping will actually yield results that are interesting to study. DH and I are going to remain in the dark about baby until the birth - we made that decision before we even started ttc and we have a pact that if one of us starts to wobble on the decision the other has to step in and stop them!

misskgb Fri 28-Mar-14 12:40:13

Hi Kiki- good to hear you're well and comforted by your pg pillow! I too sleep on my front but my rock hard boobs do not allow for that anymore so I've taken to sleeping on my back. I know I've got a few weeks to get out of that too, but generally I fall asleep on my side so hopefully I'll be ok.

In general I'm ok- all I want to eat is crisps though which isn't great. I had a nice meal of sausages mash and got some broccoli and sugar snap peas in which I enjoyed. I ate the second half of it for lunch yesterday. I'm finding some things easy to stomach and others not so much. It took me half an hour to eat a small meal the other day! Tiredness seems to have subsided for a while, just this blumming queasiness I'm not liking!

How many weeks are you now?

Hazel- I too got very warm, and my friend did nothing but itch the entire length of her pregnancy. I'm beginning to think that there are no true pregnancy symptoms- just look how different we all are on here!!

weebairn Fri 28-Mar-14 12:48:30

Hey Kiki, thanks for asking after me. I'm 13+3 now. The sickness has finally gone, hooray! And I am celebrating by eating and cooking nice food again. Still quite tired at times but hey ho, was tired before pregnancy with a toddler and shift work, so I'm managing. I am not as fit as before though! I get a bit breathless walking up a steep hill. But I plod on with my little bits of yoga, and I manage my night shifts etc.

I'm still in normal trousers etc for now. Boobs no bother here, same size, not sore, which is weird cause last time they went up 2 cup sizes instantly and hurt a lot. I haven't told work yet.

I sleep on my front a lot too. To be honest I wouldn't worry about it at all. The baby is very well protected in there. Once you have a bigger bump you won't be able to anyway (and if you're anything like me you'll miss it like crazy - I think the first thing I did after giving birth , once I was washed and changed, was lie on my front!!) I know they advise not to lie on your back in late pregnancy, but sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do to get some sleep! It's not a danger to the baby if I remember correctly, it could just make you feel quite faint. Pregnancy pillows are AWESOME. Hope you start to feel better for some sleep!!

KikiThePea Fri 28-Mar-14 12:50:22

Hi misskgb - Oh, yes, I can sympathise on all I want to eat is crisps - for me it was cheese, and I have no idea why. Even now there's some things I can't bear the thought of - I still have to wrap a scarf around my face/hold my breath any time I walk past a takeaway. Initially I thought it was curry smells, but I think it's the smell of hot oil that's really causing the problem! Bizarrely throughout I was, and still am, very happy to eat sausages and mash, with broccoli and French beans - there must be something special about that meal!

I'm at 14+3 now, and the queasiness has all but gone (it's still there in the mornings, but such an improvement on even last week.) I'm still certainly more tired than I was before pg, but a week of very, very very careful skiing actually helped enormously - I felt so much better and refreshed after getting some activity, and extremely fresh air back in my life.

I'm still finding it incredible that everyone's symptoms can be so different across all stages of ttc and beyond. Wouldn't it be lovely if there was a nice set path of events that we could mark ourselves against? Sigh...

KikiThePea Fri 28-Mar-14 12:57:30

Hi weebairn - posting at the same time! Glad to that the sickness has gone away. If that's not cause for celebration I don't know what is! So, you're exactly a week behind me!

Yes, I've heard that sleeping on your back in the later stages can compress a major blood vessel and that causes the faintness. Oh don't worry, I'll be straight back on my front as soon as I can be - I know the little bean is well protected at the moment, but being horribly bloated at bedtime just makes it so uncomfortable to lie that way. Which is exactly the same reason I'm in maternity jeans already - thank goodness for skinny jeans with elasticated waistbands so I still look exactly the same as I did before. Annoyingly I've gone up a back size so I'm powering through the slight discomfort for the next two weeks until I can get up to Manchester and go (probably) slightly mad in the Trafford Centre...

weebairn Fri 28-Mar-14 13:08:03

Hello!! Yes I'm here! Watching the toddler throw baked beans and peas everywhere...

Yeah the in-between stage is a bit rubbish - I think it's much nicer once you've actually got a proper bump. My trousers fit ok but I'm not exactly feeling my best in them.

oooh you've reminded me I've got some "jeggings" in the cupboard which I wore a lot after birth, when I wasn't really in mat stuff any more but not back in normal jeans yet either - another good option!

misskgb Fri 28-Mar-14 15:49:08

I caved and bought some. Well, there were some maternity leggings on sale so thought why not, and they're not see through like all the other brands, but oh my- they feel so good!! I hate having waist bands across my stomach at the moment (makes the queasiness worse) and so they are a huge welcome delight. DH is concerned that I'm going to outwear them before I get a bump!!

I'm in joggers today and have had to tuck the waist band under my little pouch....I don't know if my pouch is from eating too many crisps, being bloated, feeling huge because there's two rice krispies in there, or if I just made such a good effort of hiding it before my bfp but whatever the reason, I do feel like I've grown even though I know I've not really!!

KikiThePea Fri 28-Mar-14 16:06:22

Brilliant, misskgb! Seriously - why do we go through life bothering with zips and buttons?! Clearly elasticated is the way to go!

I'm exactly the same as you - went in to maternity clothes early because of the bloating. It won't be from the crisps - seriously I really haven't put any weight on since I last saw the midwife but I feel I look somewhat whale-esque when I look in the mirror sometimes - and it varies enormously. The bloat is higher up than the bump, which is still somewhat of an odd feeling, but I definitely had the 'oh, there MUST be two in there' moment before the scan because of it!

Lolly84 Fri 28-Mar-14 22:26:44

Hey ladies, I just wanted to drop by quickly and share that I have tested today and have a BFP. I spoke to my sis and she helped loads and said she felt exact same before she tested. It wasn't questionable and knew from how regular I am that something was going on. Can't quite believe it. I am not prepared whatsoever for what happens next so need to do a bit of research. DH is in shock, let's hope all goes well. Might be a bit quiet for a few days, very strange feeling xx

misskgb Fri 28-Mar-14 22:35:50

Yes lolly!! See-those 'not pg symptoms' actually were!! So happy for u :-) yep all very strange when u find out n also a bit strange that ure not dancing off the wall with the news. Thats normal so don't worry-just rake your time n take it all in xx

Lolly84 Fri 28-Mar-14 23:11:38

Thanks Misskgb, I know thought symptoms would be more obv and you have been very on point about just relaxing and dtd. Only dtd twice but at right time with help from opk. I just can't believe it happened as other 2 months I had been obsessed. That weekend away was priceless. Yeh it's a funny feeling as thought I would be bouncing off the walls. Decided to test tonight before DH came in so I could get my own answer of yes or no. Then thought if it's a bfn I have the weekend to sort my head out. Did you continue to test Misskgb?

weebairn Sat 29-Mar-14 07:27:39

Congratulations Lolly! thanks

It's absolutely fine to be a bit overwhelmed and take some time to process! There's nothing you really need to do immediately anyway, except take folic acid.

There have been an extraordinary amount of BFPs on this thread, it's great. We've only been going a couple of months!

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mrshjb Sat 29-Mar-14 08:47:04

Haha no idea what happened there, bloody phone!

Congratulations Lolly. Such amazing news and so happy for you smile You've really made me feel like the relaxed approach is definitely the way to go! Don't blame you for feeling like you do, must be such a surreal experience when you see that bfp!!

I was thinking that weebairn. 7 out of the 9 of us who write on here have their bfps. Just me and Hazel to go!

Hazelbrowneyes Sat 29-Mar-14 08:48:18

Congrats Lolly!

You and me next, H grin x

Hazelbrowneyes Sat 29-Mar-14 08:48:42

Hahaha, great minds, H! grin

mrshjb Sat 29-Mar-14 08:49:53

Am I right with 7?! Kiki, mrsb, weebairn, misskgb, Gennz, Lolly.... hmm that's 6. Have I missed someone?!

mrshjb Sat 29-Mar-14 08:50:21

Definitely Hazel. H power!!!!xx

mrshjb Sat 29-Mar-14 08:52:01

Lady is the 7th!!!! Sorry I missed you smile

Lolly84 Sat 29-Mar-14 09:29:10

Ah thanks ladies. You really have been such a support. I know I wasn't there rom the beginning but have watched the thread from early on.

Helen and Hazel I have everything crossed for you. The relaxed approach wasn't intentional from my part and think it would be pretty hard to do. I found out from opk's when I ovulated. The day of my smiley face we dtd and then hubby had a lot on at work so we didn't dtd again so thought I was out. Felt that would be a bit of a mind break and then carried on like not ttc with drinking at weekends. I was super relaxed. Only noticed my boobs sore and then missed period.

I really do recommend a wee cheeky weekend away as it leads to natural dtd than organised dtd.

With my family history I really thought it would take ages and must be honest I thought I would be at doc in a years time. A lot of women in my family have had their children with IVF.

So I have started to google stuff, so much info on what can go wrong. Trying to dodge that at this stage. Is it 400mg of folic acid weebairn?

And I said I would be quiet lol xx

KikiThePea Sat 29-Mar-14 10:03:59

Yay! Excellent news, Lolly! It took ages to sink in for me, so just sit back and let it happen. As weebairn said, take the folic acid supplements because when you see your GP they will ask if you're already taking them, and if not you will be told to take them from now onwards. You can get folic acid on its own, or as part of a multivitamin - it really depends on personal preference which you go for.

Try and avoid Googling - it actually only leads to stress! I've found having two pregnancy related books has helped enormously because then I can read all of the general information without getting distracted by horror stories, and also it means you can skip over anything you're not quite ready to read about....unlike on the internet where I'm sure you just end up being ambushed by information you weren't even looking for!

The lucky thread strikes again. Fingers still crossed for you Helen, and Hazel!

Hope you all have something nice planned for the weekend

misskgb Sat 29-Mar-14 10:05:48

Yes lolly 400mg. Bought a twin pack of tests. The line on Sunday afternoon was definitely there but feint so used the other on the mon morn n much stronger. Went dox that day just coz they have open surgery n I can be late to work on a Monday morning. They booked my 8 week appt straight away. Its on Tuesday n im stupidly excited by it!!

Woe helen?! That made me chuckle! :-)

mrshjb Sat 29-Mar-14 10:33:20

Haha yeah, honestly I wasn't going for a 'woe is me' style post, just a tiny keyboard that's hard to operate when laid down!!!

Yeah we're looking in to when we can get away and what we can do to relax a little bit. Sooooo many people say the month they got their BFP was the month they were the most relaxed about it, my sister included, so there has to be some truth in it!

Ladymillion Sat 29-Mar-14 10:52:15

Congrats Lolly!! thanks great news

Yes Helen you forgot big old me haha, hi everyone, taking a quick 5 minutes outta work! Work is soooo tedious these days! Anyway I'm 7+3 today I think and I have booked an early 'reassurance scan' which is on Tuesday morning. The anxiety is eating me up girls! Fingers crossed all is well and I can breathe a bit!

mrshjb Sat 29-Mar-14 11:16:34

Sorry, I did remember you about 2 minutes later! Just because we've not heard from you in a while smile exciting news about the scan. Let us know how you get on!!

mrshjb Sat 29-Mar-14 11:27:07

P.s. I'd never forget you because you're my hope that you can have long cycles and irregular periods and still get pregnant smile

Ladymillion Sat 29-Mar-14 14:17:08

Haha indeed Helen! wink

I will deffo be straight on here to let you all know what the outcome is. Eeekkk so nerve-racking! I did panic a bit yesterday actually cuz I couldn't find this thread haha! It just vanished from my list shock

Hazelbrowneyes Mon 31-Mar-14 08:48:05

Morning, I hope you all had fab weekends smile

I tested yesterday and of course, it was a BFN. I was only 9 or 10dpo though so I guessed it would be grin

I am, of course, symptom spotting. Breasts are unbelievably sore. I’m not having the same stretchy cramps I’ve had the last few months at this time either. Oh and I am exhausted. I fell asleep on the sofa at 9pm last night and then slept right through until 7.30 this morning. I could easily go back to bed now.

Err, that’s it grin but it’s different from the last few months so I’m holding onto everything I’ve got. I’m a little freaked that a BFP this month would mean I’d be due on my birthday but then I quickly have a word with myself to remind me that I want a baby and wouldn’t stop TTC for anything. I am wishing I’d used OPKs a bit earlier though!

misskgb Mon 31-Mar-14 10:26:18

When's af due hazel?

Lolly84 Mon 31-Mar-14 10:45:18

Hope its time for your BFP Hazel. You must be about 4-5 days away from AF? I would highly recommend (obvs don't listen to me if you don't want to hehe) that you wait until your late to test again. Seeing BFN's will possibly make you disappointed. When I used opk for the first time I was getting stressed that I hadn't ovulated yet. This is the time to sit back and relax and let your body do what it needs to do. So much goes on in the 2ww as you know.

So I have tried to work out my due date, I think it may be the 2nd of dec eek. Going to phone the doc at some point today. The thing that is delaying it is not believing I am pregnant. Best call soon as work is hectic and need to fit in an appointment. Done all my folic acid which is good, still using the ones that make your wee illuminous yellow. Def not buying them again when I run out. My sis told me to start moisturing around loads stomach to get used to it before skin stretches, are any of you pg ladies doing it?

Helen how you doing? X

Hazelbrowneyes Mon 31-Mar-14 11:07:05

AF due on Friday.

I won’t test again Lolly and I wasn’t too disappointed, I just have a load of ICs and decided one test on Mother’s Day can’t hurt grin

I’ve been taking folic acid, vitamin D and vitamin C since November Lolly and haven’t noticed luminous yellow wee?! What brand are you using?

Mind firmly being taken off the 2ww by work…it’s absolutely manic here today.

mrshjb Mon 31-Mar-14 11:13:20


Sounding really promising there Hazel. Loads of people seem to say sore boobs is one of their first signs they're pregnant don't they! Are you going to wait again until weekend to test? I'll keep everything crossed for you!

Lolly nothing to report from me really. Still dtd, no idea when AF is due. Have no idea when I'll test if she doesn't show up either. Doctor said to start testing from 5th week, but I have no idea, might just have to wait and see how I feel at the time. I've given up on the OPKs, really didn't like peeing in a cup so regularly and like you said, seeing the negatives just kept stressing me out. It's highly likely I would miss the surge as well, so decided to sack it off and just see what happens. Things can't get any worse than last month (I really hope this is the case anyway) so just thought I'll have to wait it out. I am temping though, but I don't think that really shows you too much until you've done it for a few months!

I think moisturising your skin seems like a good idea. Can't hurt can it!

Lolly84 Mon 31-Mar-14 11:30:41

Oh Hazel not long to go... How exciting. The sore boobs were my first indicator. Usually I get sore boobs from AF but this kinda happened all through the month. Mine have just got sorer and sorer like if DH is cuddling me and nearly touches them I yelp lol. I use pregnacare conception which has all folic needed but it turns your wee super yellow. It wasn't until someone said it on here I really noticed. I drink loads to be hydrated and wee is light normally (tmi) not now haha. Fx for you.

Helen sounds like a good plan. When is your 5th week?

Just called doc and the receptionist was friendly as usual...not. Is it just my practice or is it hard to get an app? So anyway it's booked for 9th of April. Got a male doc this time not sure if I should have got a female. X

Hazelbrowneyes Mon 31-Mar-14 11:49:42

I prefer the male doc at my surgery (he is HOT) He's fab (as well as HOT) and he's been excellent with my general health care and gave me all the info I needed when I came off the pill. I'll probably book in with him when the time comes tbh. I don't think they do much at the booking in appointment anyway do they? Oh how exciting Lolly!

It's hard to get an appointment at my surgery too. I need an appointment for a different issue and prefer to book online. No appointments available with my doc for the whole of April unless it's an "on the day" appointment. Grr. When my time comes, I'll call the surgery and ask if I need a GP appointment or straight to midwife. The receptionists are actually really lovely at my surgery!

I have, ahem, large boobs so they're quite often a bit sore but not like this. They're not as sore today as they were last night though - I found it hard to sleep!

Helen, yes I'll wait until Saturday to test I think. What CD are you on now?

mrshjb Mon 31-Mar-14 11:55:38

I take the pregnacare as well and I'm the same, I drink soooo much water my wee is very light but I noticed when I was taking them in the morning that my wee was a weird colour! Take them at night now though and that seems to be better on my stomach!

Hahaha loving the hot doctor. Not sure I'd go to him with certain things though! Yeah my doctor is hard to get in to and their appointment system seems to make no sense at all!

Just checked my app and I'm on cd20 today (can't believe how fast that's flown) So if no AF by the weekend after next then I suppose that would be the first potential time to test from. I haven't had any ovulation symptoms this time though, not sure if that's a good thing or not though when I had loads last time and didn't actually ovulate! Ah the confusion!! Ooh exciting for Saturday then! Is this cycle 4 for you now Hazel?

Hazelbrowneyes Mon 31-Mar-14 12:13:54

Oh Helen he is totally "clothes on appointments only" grin

Cycle 3 for me. 4 cycles off the pill but only trying for 3. I say "only" it's felt like a flippin' lifetime! grin

Have you used OPKs at all?

mrshjb Mon 31-Mar-14 12:21:06

Haha yeah I can imagine. I've never had a man to do anything like that. People always say you stop caring after having kids though!

Ah right, yeah I know what you mean. Feels like ages for me as well. Made even worse by the fact I don't think we had any chance on any of the months before!

Yeah I did one random one that month I thought I was ovulating and got a positive and then AF turned up on time. Decided to start using them every day this month and then sacked it off a while ago. If I have another long cycle and don't ovulate until a day in the 40s I can't face doing them for so long. Plus all the negatives were depressing me. Last time I got a positive mid morning and by night time it was gone as well so I keep thinking maybe I only get a short surge during the day so might be missing it as well! And that's if I am even ovulating at all!!

Lolly84 Mon 31-Mar-14 12:23:14

Haha hot doc. Well I have never got a specific doc, when I lived up north I had a specific doc. Will see how I get on with man Doc, I am sure there should be no surprise leg opening moments. Think they just through dates. Bit of a tick box app really. If he is hot he may see me again ahah. It's just the lack of empathy and tone as if 'not another one'. When I had my accident and called docs they were like "well since it's a road traffic accident there will be a charge" without any empathy just this is how much it will cost, gets on my wick!

Well me too on the big boob front Hazel I am scared how big my boobs will get judging by the size of my sisters they may get huge! Eek. That's the only feeling I have at mo sore boobs.

Helen glad you are still dtd! This month I waited 1/2 hour after dtd (mind you it was only twice) sometimes with legs in the air haha xx

binkybunny Mon 31-Mar-14 12:51:56

Hi all! Wow loafs been happening on here since last on. Congrats lolly and fx for hazel and helen.

kiki how did you find skiing? I'm dying to go but too nervous! Nicd to hear you are feeling better too and you weebairn

I'm 12+3 today had my scan last Thurs and all good.Starting to feel better although v sick this morning sad Bought maternity trousers and leggings at the weekend. Wish I had done it weeks ago. They are amazing!

Oh and helen you missed me too of those with bfp's. Did you get mrsb too? Or do we not count as we only post here occassionally wink

Will try and keep more up to date here!

mrshjb Mon 31-Mar-14 13:03:14

Argh as soon as I saw your name binky I remember I'd forgotten you too! Of course you count, it makes our success rate thread look even better! My revised list is as follows:

BFP: Kiki, mrsb, binky, weebairn, Gennz, misskgb, Lolly, Lady
Awaiting BFP: Hazel, Helen

There have been some other people who have come and gone but not stayed long, so I can't remember all of their details. Apologies to anyone else!!!!

Glad to hear everything is going well for you binky!

Lolly haha yeah I'm trying to stay still as long as possible and also doing the cushion under the bum trick. You're so lucky to get pregnant after only dtd twice in a month!! Very jealous!!!

binkybunny Mon 31-Mar-14 13:11:30

Ha ha no worries! Not been on for ages. Have moved onto a pregnancy thread but like it on here still as we were all in it from the start!

Good on you for keeping positive. As you have said you're young and healthy so I'm sure it will happen soon. Just enjoy DTD! Between sickness, tiredness and bleeding we have only tried twice since BFP but its just not happened for us. Hoping it will get better now I've hit the second tri grin

binkybunny Mon 31-Mar-14 13:11:45

Ha ha no worries! Not been on for ages. Have moved onto a pregnancy thread but like it on here still as we were all in it from the start!

Good on you for keeping positive. As you have said you're young and healthy so I'm sure it will happen soon. Just enjoy DTD! Between sickness, tiredness and bleeding we have only tried twice since BFP but its just not happened for us. Hoping it will get better now I've hit the second tri grin

Hazelbrowneyes Mon 31-Mar-14 14:45:35

Ah bummmmmm, the stretchy, stabby pains I had 4-5 days pre-AF last month have just appeared, 4-5 days before I'm due this month.

Lolly84 Mon 31-Mar-14 15:59:22

Ah thanks Binky bet the scan was a relief! did the weeks to in slow?

Helen I was lucky just dtd twice, must have been perfect egg timing all thanks to my opk. I didn't have any ov symptoms like you said. Only the tiniest EWCM. Usually solid get ov pains and they didn't come either. Don't you wish you could just look inside?

Hazel don't know if this is helpful or not but I felt like AF was coming the whole time, couldn't tell the difference apart from no blood. Kept going to toilet to check as was sure it was coming. I remember saying to my hubby oh here it comes oucccccch x

Hazelbrowneyes Mon 31-Mar-14 16:32:10

Lots of people have said that Lolly, just hope it's true for me too! grin

mrshjb Mon 31-Mar-14 16:50:26

Thanks binky! Hopefully you'll start to feel better and more human from now on then!!

Hazel I wouldn't worry too much, like everyone has said loooooads of people seem to think AF is on her way and then get their bfp!

Lolly yeah I really really hope I am one of these who doesn't normally have any OV symptoms! You're absolutely right. I would love to just have a look about and see what's going on. Would take the stress off so much wouldn't it!

Second lot of reflexology tonight. Can't wait smile

Hazelbrowneyes Tue 01-Apr-14 08:23:48

How was reflexology H?

I'm feeling a bit blue today. Convinced AF will arrive at the end of the week, on schedule. For the last few months, I've had excruciating pains in my right side, especially when I wee...usually around 4 or 5 days before AF is due. I got them in the early hours of the morning. I'm not sure that's right. It feels like something inside me is about to burst. If I'm not pregnant, I'm going to book a GP appointment for the end of the month. I'm so worried it's a cyst or a problem with the ovary.

Of course, this set off the panic that I'm never going to be able to have children.

Also, if not pregnant this month, I need to have a serious chat with DH about changing his lifestyle. I'm worried he won't be able to do it. He doesn't drink much during the week at all now, usually doesn't have any but at weekends it can be a horrifying amount of alcohol consumed. I'm not innocent here either, I totted up my units the other weekend and was shocked. Today starts a month off the booze for me though, regardless.

mrshjb Tue 01-Apr-14 10:39:23

Morning, it was really good thanks, nearly fell asleep a few times!

Oh no, it's so rubbish when you start thinking like that isn't it. Absolutely no idea what's causing that and if you're worried about it I think it's probably a good idea to go and get it checked out. It'll put your mind at ease if nothing comes of it anyways. Was it you who said that you got really strong OV pains too?

He's done really well to cut out the drinking during the week hasn't he so maybe he would be more open to cutting it down at weekend? How much drink are you talking about?

Only news from me is that I had some proper EWCM this morning. Felt really happy about this, but obviously it's not a definite sign that I'm actually OVing. Will dtd tonight though just in case!!!

Hazelbrowneyes Tue 01-Apr-14 10:53:12

I got really strong OV pains in Dec and Jan but not Feb or March. I am quite concerned though so I think I will book a GP appointment.

I am so irritable today, I'm absolutely convinced it's PMT.

Yes, he probably will be open to cutting down at the weekend but our social group are heavy drinkers so it's always tough. It varies but generally 5 pints on a Friday, maybe a glass of wine after. Saturday can be anything up to 7 pints angry followed by wine angry. Sunday is usually half a bottle of wine. It's too much and he knows it. Friends often want to meet at 2 on a Saturday and it is just drinking constantly until 9. I'm fed up of it and so is he, actually. We've started to try to do different things at the weekend now. I know we'll probably end up spending Saturday with friend as her partner is away but I might suggest I go shopping with her or something and then meet DH for dinner. She likes her routine though, it's actually quite frightening just how set in her ways she is.

Excellent news that you had EWCM!! YAY!

KikiThePea Tue 01-Apr-14 11:03:21

Morning all,

The comments about various male doctors made me giggle. I saw a male GP when I went for my initial appointment after bfp. It was just a quick chat and form filling. To be honest I always thought I'd want to see a female doctor about any pregnancy-related things, but I think I actually want to see the same man again if possible - he's a GP but with ob/gyn specialist qualifications. Having read how difficult it is for some of you girls to get appointments, I'm very lucky to have the surgery I have - it's actually attached to the tiny local hospital which meant going for blood tests and my first scan was stupidly convenient. The next scan is at the city hospital where little baba is registered to be born (which seems ridiculously early!) so that's definitely going to be more of a faff! There doesn't seem to be any consistency across the country.

Hazel - if you're worried about any pains you're definitely right to go and get it checked out. Even if it does turn out to be something related to the ovary then don't worry yourself until you have all the facts. I've recently learned that two older friends of the family (both with three children each!) saw GPs when they first started ttc. One was told about polycystic ovaries and the other endometriosis - both obviously went into panic meltdown mode, but with the right treatment they went on to have very healthy pregnancies. The likelihood is that there's nothing wrong at all, and bodies are just weird, but as Helen said, it'll put your mind at ease just to know.

Binky - Nice to see you back, and also that you're discovering the delights of maternity trousers! Skiing was wonderful, thanks - I just took it easy for most of the week and had two whole days of just sitting in the sunshine. I only did one 'full' day of skiing and that was the last day, but I was very careful to avoid speeding down the piste, and avoided the black runs entirely. I was really nervous for the first few hours, but I was with a group of experienced skiers who made sure to stay near (I looked a bit like I had an entourage at times...), we avoided busy pistes and I took quite a few hot chocolate/Orangina breaks in the glorious weather. Little bean is really well protected at the moment, so once I'd made my peace with that fact it was easy to enjoy the week and get some much needed exercise in after weeks of sofa-ridden misery. Ha.

Helen - Glad reflexology part two went well. It sounds wonderful, actually!

Ladymillion Tue 01-Apr-14 17:06:42

Hi everyone, just an update on the early scan I went for this morning, everything seems fine, strong heartbeat and measuring exactly 8 weeks as I'd calculated (I guess that's the good thing about TTC like a mad woman, you can actually pinpoint the date of conception haha).

The relief is amazing but I'm not completely relaxed yet (will I ever be?! Doubt it). It was so strange to see a little beating heart and to think that's inside me?! Mind-boggling xX

Lolly84 Tue 01-Apr-14 18:54:49

Hey ladies,

hazel sorry you are feeling blue. I agree with energy one that your right to get it checked out.

Helen whoop to the. EWCM - great. Eggs apparently come out a couple of days after us what I have read.

lady do you mind if I ask why you got an early test? Was something making you panic? Great news about your healthy baby

Nothing new from me xx

Ladymillion Tue 01-Apr-14 19:42:08

Hey lolly, I was feeling quite anxious as had no major symptoms. Felt like a fraud haha! So I looked online and they offer 'reassurance scans' for £50 about 5 mins away from where I live so I thought why not?!

I was sooo nervous that something would be wrong, it's a strange feeling for me because I'm normally a laid back person. About everything! Evidently not pregnancy confused

Lolly84 Tue 01-Apr-14 19:57:32

Ah right, wow that is worth the money. I am trying to stay away from google. Keep going to google stuff and then think I better not. X

Ladymillion Tue 01-Apr-14 20:08:41

Yep google is the DEVIL! But I can't keep away!

Lolly84 Tue 01-Apr-14 20:15:15

Maybe the best thing to do is stay away. Will stress you out. Only gonna by how I feel when I google an ailment. Xx

Gennz Tue 01-Apr-14 20:15:48

Hi everyone! Just popping in to see how you're all going. Hazel hope you're alright - you friends sound like ours! (In fact sound like me pre pregnancy blush) All of our friends realised immediately that I was knocked up when we had them over for a barbeque & I had one glass of bubbly all night (instead of a bottle like I would normally). I must admit while I do miss having a few drinks I'm liking not feeling awful & hungover on a Saturday morning.

I had a work trip to Sydney last week and splashed out on some expensive J brand maternity jeans and a couple of little vest onesies for the baby (sounds so weird to say that!). I am pretty clueless about what babies wear but ours will be a December arrival which is sort of the equivalent of June in the UK so I imagine it will be quite hot. It's way too early to shop & I'm worried that I'm jinxing it but I really wanted to go shopping & I couldn't justify spending money on things I wasn't going to be able to wear in a couple of months! That said I bet I'll be in the maternity jeans sooner rather than later - I feel sooo fat, have already put on 1.5kg (about 3lbs) mainly in my boobs which have shot up from 10D to 12DD!! I'm only 5 + 3! Arrrghhh

Lolly84 Tue 01-Apr-14 20:55:30

Gennz I feel like people will know straightaway when I say no to alcohol. Only had 1 weekend so far and blamed not drinking on work. I have been saying to people close to me for a while that I want to get really healthy ie no alcohol so I suppose I can use that. Must be hard not to buy more things. Xx

mrshjb Tue 01-Apr-14 21:15:12

Gennz nice to hear from you. Glad you're doing well! Never heard a bra size being 10-12 anything though!! Is that like clothes size with a cup size attached?!!!

Lady glad the scan went well. I totally don't blame you for having the early scan, I'd be well tempted for 50 quid as well smile

Hazel that is quite a lot of alcohol. Hats off to you both to be able to drink that much and hold down a job!! If I have one night out at a weekend now I'm suffering all week for it!!

lolly I was wondering when you were supposed to OV based on ewcm but I've put myself on a google ban so I couldn't look it up. Still not convinced I'll actually ovulate but at least I kind of have something to go off and if AF doesn't show up in the next 2 weeks then I'll have a base line date to potentially test from. Will just have to wait and see though. Might be another month where my body decided to trick me again!!

kiki I would definitely recommend reflexology. It's sooooo relaxing!!

Gennz Tue 01-Apr-14 21:38:23

It's 34D to 36DD. My boobs feel enormous! So glad I got bigger bras though, I was really suffering in the old ones. Hopefully they won't keep expanding at this rate.

mrshjb Tue 01-Apr-14 22:03:02

Ahhh makes sense. Looks like you're on for huge boobs then! My sister's didn't change at all during her pregnancy so I bet I'm the same!

misskgb Tue 01-Apr-14 23:01:58

Hi ladies. Good to hear all your stories n mostly getting on ok. I had my booking in appt today with the midwife. Have always been heavy n whilst im only a size 14 n very active, I'm only 5'3 meaning my bmi is high. She's freaked me out a bit saying she needs to keep an eye on me. Not over the panic number but still high enough to worry about. Put me on a bit of a downer, especially now I've finished playing netball until after birth. Will have to go for lots of walks n start swimming. Waiting for a scan date now x

mrshjb Wed 02-Apr-14 07:17:23

Sorry to hear you're on a bit of a downer misskgb. BMI is pretty rubbish really. It doesn't factor in body shape or amount of muscle. I think the most important thing is that you're eating a good balanced diet and that you're getting enough exercise. Walking and swimming sound good. There is a heavily pregnant woman in my aerobics class and she just does alternatives to more strenuous moves. It'll be exciting to get your scan date I bet smile xx

binkybunny Wed 02-Apr-14 07:30:17

Hi all. Gennz I've gone from a 36/38b to a 42d since becoming pregnant shock really struggled finding a bra that size. It was so embarrassing in Mothercare but the girl was really lovely.

misskjb my Community midwife didnt blink at my 29.9 bmi but the hospital midwife gave me a huge patronizing spiel about gentle walks blah blah blah and didnt evrn bother asking what kind of exercise I do normally. I managed a 4 mile hill walk last week! She also nearly ruined the excitment from our scan going on about high risks for my second child. Which we're not even planning on having.

Kiki your skiing sounds lovely. Might have to drive up at the weekend for a little go at the weekend!

mrshjb Wed 02-Apr-14 08:07:54

How rude binky. Why would she even start talking about a second child, totally irrelevant at this stage isn't it.

Just wondering....Do any of the pregnant ladies on here have a lower than average bmi?! When I went to the doctors about my period issues, she said to me not to lose any weight. My bmi is just under 20. Have wondered for a while if putting a couple of pounds on might help me a little bit. What do you all think?

Hazelbrowneyes Wed 02-Apr-14 08:17:49

H I don't drink that much grin Actually, the reason we do drink a lot is actually work. The stress of running your own business is so much more than I ever realised. I wouldn't do it again.

I've decided to have a completely dry April. Weekends will be tough but I'm determined. I'm about 10lbs over my normal weight so I want to lose some of that.

Feeling better today but still have AF cramps. Will book GP appointment though.

binky jeez, I never realised some mw would be so rude shock

Gennz Eek! I'm a 32G, terrified of any increase!! grin

Lolly That is another reason I'm having a dry April - I can then just say "Oh no, I'm just trying to lose weight. LOVED being hangover free in April so I'm continuing."

Lady The reassurance scan sounds fab! I'll probably want one of those.

kiki yes, you're right. I think I need the reassurance from a doc.

Ah, I love this little group grin (Sorry if I've missed is already manic this morning!)

binkybunny Wed 02-Apr-14 12:42:52

Just a comment about private scans, I don't want to scare anyone as I think this is really quite rare but my sonographer told me to be careful going private as there is one person near us who is a physiotherapist not a consultant and he has been using the ultrasound machine too high so could potentially cause damage to the foetus. Just make sure you have checked out their credentials first, I wouldn't have even thought about it!

There are another few near us that have worked at the local hospital and are fine, but I think we are just sticking with the NHS for now unless there's any reason we want another one, maybe after the 20 week I'll want another little peek grin

Ladymillion Wed 02-Apr-14 13:21:46

Gennz my friends also guessed straightaway when I turned down the free wine on the tables at a wedding! They aren't used to seeing me without a drink in my hand obviously! Whoops.

Helen I can't help you with the BMI thing as I am the opposite... I'm a few stone overweight! My thighs are like tree trunks (bleurgh). So I'd be advised to lose weight if I was still TTC. My friend was very skinny and was TTC for a few years, she was advised to put weight on but then I know lots of people who are very slender and got pregnant easily. I think unless u are the EXTREME either way it doesn't seeeeem to matter?

I had a fright this morning girls... After the excitement of seeing the heartbeat yesterday I saw (tmi) a pinky/browny discharge on the toilet paper this morning after having a wee! Instantly panicked obviously! Midwife said to monitor it and don't worry unless it goes red, gets heavy or becomes painful. And since then I've been to the toilet a few more times and there was nothing on the toilet paper. All I can do is rest and hope that's the end of it!

Binky that is scary but I made sure I did my research before going for my scan - the place I went to is run by staff who work at the ultrasound department at the local general hospital... They opened this place due to the popular demand of extra scans so I was confident that it was a legit place and knowledgable staff.

misskgb Wed 02-Apr-14 14:50:41

Thanks both. Feel better after a good old cry with dh yesterday. I just kept thinking I'm not giving my little rice krispie a good start after what the mw said. Even harder because I'm barely eating atm and when I do, its not the finest fruit or salad, its just whatever I can stomach!

I really want to tell my boss-I just feel like I need supportive people around me as I'm constantly feeling sick and/or tired. Dh is happy for me to tell her if it'll help but we said we'd wait til 12 weeks. Oooooh I don't know! !

binkybunny Wed 02-Apr-14 16:07:26

miss if you'd feel happier telling her then do. I was so pleased I told my boss straight away as I have had many late starts early finishes and sick days. I have to have a sickness interview next week because I've had 4 sickness related days off and its taken the stress away.

lady I'm so pleased you've done the research. I was worried I'd scare you. Phew!

Ladymillion Wed 02-Apr-14 16:11:14

Haha binky I have a sickness interview too! Mine's tomorrow hmm but they know I'm pregnant so hopefully they won't be harsh!

binkybunny Wed 02-Apr-14 17:01:51

I'm hoping they're nice to me too as they know I'm pregnant. Hoping they suggest I can work from home now and then which will help on yucky mornings!

KikiThePea Wed 02-Apr-14 17:44:06

Hi all,

Lady I hope you've been taking it easy today then, and that all goes well from here on out.

misskgb If it will help you to have that bit of extra support then it's definitely worth telling people even it is still a bit early. I have my own business so luckily only had me to whine to about the hell of it all, but I know that there's no way I wouldn't have been able to keep it all secret if I worked for anyone else - and I know I would have loved the extra support.

Gennz I love J Brand. I've already informed DH that a pair of their maternity jeans are on the list for the next few weeks - do they fit well? I've found some of the maternity jeans to fit horribly in the legs, and read reviews about others where you spend your life pulling up the waistband! DH gets slightly fearful every time he sees me on the Seraphine website at the moment - he's not said anything yet....haha!

I agree with the comments about BMI - it's such a ridiculous set of guidelines in my opinion, simply because it doesn't take into account just how many different body types there are or the fact that muscle adds weight. I'm 5'6", a size 8-10 waist, but have been blessed/cursed with a 32G chest (I mostly go with cursed!) and my weight always goes up when I get some serious muscle toning in due to skiing - thus my BMI is actually on the higher side of normal. I once had an argument with a nurse about it because I told her unless she could magically tell me how to just get rid of the weight from my chest and nowhere else I didn't really fancy it, thanks very much! So really Helen I wouldn't worry too much about BMI - I highly doubt putting on a few pounds would do any damage though if you wanted to give it a go, but you're still in what is considered the 'normal' range.

Nothing exciting to report here. The extent of anything happening is that I really need to call my GP and ask about antihistamines - this stupid smog that's appeared, plus the 'joyous' arrival of early hayfever season means allergies have kicked in already. Bleaurgh.

KikiThePea Wed 02-Apr-14 17:46:08

Gah, binky I only just read your comment properly about the midwife and the 'second child comment! How rude of her to even presume something like that!

Gennz Wed 02-Apr-14 20:16:01

They are great Kiki! The legs fit a lot like the normal ones, they just have stretchy side panels. I got a size up from my normal size to make sure I could still wear them if my legs get fatter. I got skinny ones in "starless" the dark denim. I'm obsessed with maternity fashion blogs. There's so much great stuff online. I am already obsessed with putting together a maternity capsule wardrobe (can you tell I haven't been very productive at work!!) - last year when we went to the UK for 3 weeks I worked on my packing for ages (I am a shocking over-packer, when we went to Sydney I took as much for 3 days as I did to the UK for 3 weeks!) and took a couple of dresses and combos of jeans, skinny pants and various T shirts & scarfs so I am hoping to do that for my pregnancy. Most likely I will end up the size of a house and wearing a mumu!!

I am loving the blog Romy and the bunnies, though all the women on there are impossibly glam, it's not very relatable!

Ladymillion - I am going to have to tell my work sooner rather than later, we have so many drinky events and lunches on and normally I am leading the charge! I have drinks with 2 work people tonight and usually we'd share a bottle of wine so I am already trying to plan ahead as to how I can nip to the bar first and order a faux vodka and tonic. Argh! So glad I don't have any weddings to go to, me sober at a wedding would be a dead giveaway!!

mrshjb Thu 03-Apr-14 07:55:33

Lady- glad everything seems to be ok now, must have been an awful scare. From reading stuff on here in the past it seems like it can be relatively common to have a little bit of bleeding though.

Hazel- any update from you?

I'm sure I'll come back to rereading all the maternity clothes stuff when it's my time smile

Lolly84 Thu 03-Apr-14 18:27:46

Wow I am completely behind with this convo, can't keep up. Hope you are all good.

Helen and misskgb I agree with everyone BMI is so stupid. I am just on the healthy BMI and would like to lose a stone to feel really happy with myself. The point of it is being way underweight and way overweight can make it harder to conceive. In saying that I know someone on the opposite side of the scale who is extremely overweight who has managed to conceive by mistake. When I say extremely I am talking about 8 stone. All we can do is try and be as healthy as possible.

Hazel nearly the wend of the week! how's it going?

Only thing to report here is tiredness, got a lot on at work. Normally work in excess of 50 hours a week. Can be flexible as manage my own diary. I have early nights but get to 4-5 and feel like I could nap. I am going to let my boss know when it starts to effect what is expected of me. I am hoping to get to 12 weeks before telling anyone. Eek x

misskgb Thu 03-Apr-14 19:23:02

Hi lolly. Yh it can't be that bad, it only took me 3 months to conceive! Told my boss today as we're recruiting coaches for a summer event n ive been counted but won't be allowed so felt she needed to know, in addition to my recent stressing! She was great n has promised to keep it to herself until my scan

Fx this is day 1 of no more morning sickness-its killing me! And ive not needed a nap! They say the placenta taking over around 8 weeks eases the strain on the mum to be so hopefully thats what's going on n its not just a random good day!

mrshjb Fri 04-Apr-14 13:50:57

Miss KGB are you 8 weeks already?!

mrshjb Fri 04-Apr-14 13:51:27

Sorry autocorrect went a bit crazy with your name then!

misskgb Fri 04-Apr-14 17:09:11

Haha, yes 8 and 3 days already! I ate seconds at lunch today-miracles!! :-)

KikiThePea Fri 04-Apr-14 18:02:23

Excellent news, misskgb - I genuinely hope this is the end of the grimness for you! I wouldn't wish the nausea on anyone!

Thanks for the info, Gennz - now that I've got your good review there's no reason for me not to invest in those jeans. wink

I hope the rest of you girls are well and that you've got nice weekends planned x

weebairn Sat 05-Apr-14 07:18:40

I agree BMI is stupid. This is why I never weigh myself. I wear a size 8/10 (more 8 these days) which in my eyes is quite small?? Though I am only 5'3". At my 12 week scan they weighed me and I had a BMI of 25, which just sounds nuts, I am a small person. But I do have tits, and I do quite a bit of exercise, so maybe some muscle (not as much as I had pre-baby!) Or maybe I put on lots of weight in the first trimester? Or maybe I'm kidding myself??

Anyway I am 14+4 now and my trousers are getting a bit tight. Think it's time to embrace the pregnant shape! My bras are still fitting, but again not quite as comfortable as they were. I have some "bump bands" in the cupboard which are quite good for the in between stage. I was a late bump-developer last time, and was expecting it early with a 2nd, so am quite pleased I got this far in normal clothes, mostly because I just didn't want to tell work… I haven't decided when to tell work. Maybe end of APril, I think I might be showing by then. We'll see.

mrsh My SIL has a BMI of about 17 and conceived 2 kids no problem. She eats MASSES. I think if you are naturally that size and not restricting food, and have periods, it's not likely to be a problem. And sometimes being overweight can make conceiving harder, but most women manage fine.

Lolly84 Sat 05-Apr-14 11:04:04

Oh ladies I have been doing something really stupid... I have read up on it and everything is fine but panicked for 5 mins.

Before conception I was really crap at taking the pregnacare vits with folic acid. So when I found out last fri I took them consistently. So in my head when I read them it said take one with every main meal (which would be 3 a day) as I was running out I went to tesco last night and got pregnancy ones which are very similar and read the instructions it said 1 a day with food. I wondered why they were different and compared and I have stupidly been taking far too many of the pregnacare tablets. I have been having too much folic acid.

So reading up and your body gets rid of it if it can't take it. The only danger it can have is to mask a vitamin b12 deficiency. Have text my nurse sister incase she has any thoughts. So I have went from hardly any folic acid to too much. Silly me.

misskgb Sat 05-Apr-14 20:53:22

Oh lolly!! Has your sis said its ok? The nurse is making me take higher dosage of folic acid. Just picked up prescription. Can only take it til end of 12 weeks. Im already 8.4 weeks n they've given me 3 months worth?! I don't know! !

Massive back ache today :-( def a tmi question but need other opinions......anyone found themselves 'wet' when pg? Not sure if its cm or a bit of urine or both but also not sure if its normal? ! Help ladies!!

Lolly84 Sat 05-Apr-14 21:16:05

Yes she said it was fine. She said some people need to take 5mg never mind 400mcg. Hmm wonder if they want you to take it for longer? I really am a numpty.

I have constant cm, felt a bit wet yesterday. I am sure it will be cm for you and normal.

I am finding it hard to stay away from drinkers this weekend. DH's family always get together at weekend and asked DH if we can give it a miss as don't want any pressure. He was a bit miffed, not sure he quite understands.

binkybunny Sat 05-Apr-14 22:35:49

Evening all. Just had my second night out since bfp feeling quite chuffed and def feeling better at last!

Yes to the constantly wet. Apparently its normal and I have considered panty liners its do bad some days... Or Tena lady as retching has caused a few blush moments.

I asked my mw about the folic acid. If the supplements have vit D you should keep taking them throughout pregnancy and the folic acid wont do any harm. Since 12 weeks I've kept forgetting but need to try and get some in me as I cant renember the last time I saw the sun!

misskgb Sun 06-Apr-14 07:24:52

Ahhh k thanks both. I'll check with her what she wants me to do then in case I am supposed to take them longer. These are 5mg ones :-(

im considering panty liners too-its such a strange pg thing to have imo!! Haven't told dh about it-he's sometimes scared to touch me as it is atm!

mrshjb Mon 07-Apr-14 06:59:08

Morning everyone, hope you've all had a nice weekend!

Lolly that did make me laugh a little bit about the extra vitamins. I can't imagine what the colour of your pee must have been!! Glad to hear it doesn't cause any damage or anything though.

misskgb I can't believe how long you've been pregnant for now! time is really really flying! I've definitely heard plenty of people say that being wet is perfectly normal. It was one of the reasons I thought I was pregnant that time. Restrospectively it was probably my hormones going crazy, just not the pregnancy ones!

weebairn thanks for the bmi advice. I've just decided to have some healthy days and some cheat days and then take my vitamins too. Hopefully can't do more than that!!

binky glad you're starting to feel better now smile

No real update from me. Ewcm and temping seem to suggest that I'm about 5dpo now. Keeping my fingers crossed but will just have to wait and see what happens. If no AF by the end of next week, that's probably when I'll test because it's the best thing I have to go off. Apparently if your temperature starts to drop then you can presume that AF is on her way, so if that happens as well then I won't bother to test and will just wait for her arrival! Would put me on a 36 day ish cycle, so could definitely live with that. But just trying not to take it for granted that I did OV!

chillychicken Mon 07-Apr-14 13:44:06

<cough> Erm, hello.

So, I'm here in disguise. I've roamed some other boards/threads in this disguise but it's taken me a while to get here. A relative (and a friend! Damn MN being so popular!!) also use MN and I was a bit worried they would spot me, hence the name change and the subsequent worry of outing myself with a new name as well, in fact I'm still worried about this but here goes

A clue for you: I don't have blue eyes.

And I'm thrilled to tell you all that late last week the word "pregnant" showed up on a digital test grin I'm 4+4 today (I think)

mrshjb Mon 07-Apr-14 13:51:52

Haha love the new name and the fact I can now publicly congratulate you!!!

KikiThePea Mon 07-Apr-14 15:05:05

Excellent news! Congratulations grin

chillychicken Mon 07-Apr-14 15:29:23

Thank you H grin Have everything crossed for you!

Thanks kiki! how are you getting on?

mrshjb Mon 07-Apr-14 16:38:07

Thank you smile

Lolly84 Mon 07-Apr-14 19:09:23

Congrats Chilly wondered where you'd gone!! Xx

binkybunny Mon 07-Apr-14 20:36:03

Yay chilly have been wondering about a bfp! So exciting :-)

mrshjb Tue 08-Apr-14 08:12:18

Morning everyone, now I am thinking I am possibly in the tww again I am starting to think about possible signs and symptoms. Sooooo can you all give me some of yours please?! I know everyone is different but it's still interesting to hear!!

Lolly84 Tue 08-Apr-14 10:50:43

Got everything crossed for you Helen.

The only symptom I had in week 1 was heavy sore boobs like I would get the last few days before AF. It was quite instant. In early week 2 I had a real need for diet coke from the tap instead of a bottle or can. I made a special visit to mcdonalds for it without food which was bizarre but desp wanted it. The closer I got to AF time, I started to feel a bit odd mood wise and couldn't sleep very well. I got out the shower 2 days before AF due and felt faint and then the feeling faint went on from there and has now gone.

The 2 things that stood out that something was going on was heavy sore boobs and feeling faint. Hope this helps x

Lolly84 Tue 08-Apr-14 10:53:52

Pregnant ladies, talking about symptoms, I am at the beginning of my 6th week and not experience sickness just little dull aches stretched in my uterus. Kinda starting to get worried I am not having many symptoms. My boobs are still heavy and hurting and I'm extremely tired. I think I am going back to disbelief that anything is happening. What's your experiences at this stage? I have my first doc app in the morning and anxious that he says I'm not pregnant even thought I did 2 tests with strong lines. I may be being daft but it's a long wait until the scan x

chillychicken Tue 08-Apr-14 11:53:33

Thanks all! grin

H my first symptom was 9dpo (negative test, FMU) but as the day progressed, I had a wave of nausea hit me, then extreme tiredness. Took my bra off and my boobs were unbelievably sore. Then nothing until 11dpo when I started to get pre-AF cramps, bloating and a lot of spots. Tested that evening and had a faint positive.

Since then my main symptom has been cramps. I ended up having to go to bed Saturday afternoon as they were so bad. Still there today but not as bad.

Otherwise, I've been quite thirsty, boobs still sore but not horrendously so, my nails are in a terrible condition - really unusual for me, and I've gone off some food. I'm nowhere near as hungry as I usually am either. I can't stomach the idea of chocolate or anything too sweet. This isn't a bad thing as I wanted to start eating better anyway. Few waves of nausea but nothing too bad. Quite a lot of discharge too which I wasn't expecting. I am only 4+5 though grin

Lolly I'm wishing the weeks away so I can get to 12 weeks. I haven't tested since Saturday (tested because I was so crampy, I was convinced I'd imagined the digital pregnancy test confirming I was indeed pregnant) but I've got a few ICs left so I'm going to test periodically over the next few weeks because I am mental

chillychicken Tue 08-Apr-14 12:13:39

Oh and I'm extremely cold. My office is 21 degrees at the moment and I am freezing cold. Have been feeling very cold for the last few days.

Ladymillion Tue 08-Apr-14 13:40:27

My first symptom was my acne flaring up. I have always suffered from big painful spots since I was a teenager but was treated with isotretinoin last year and they disappeared! Then during the two-week wait they started popping up again as soon as 4DPOhmm that was the first clue that something was happening. By 8DPO I was having AF-type cramping, feeling fatigue and also quite irritable! At 9DPO I felt really emotional, cried over a minor thing and also (TMI) lotion-like cm (it was like a moisturiser consistency) and I knew then that something was different as I'd never seen this type of cm before. Then nothing more until 12DPO when I got a very very faint line on a hpt wink

misskgb Tue 08-Apr-14 17:56:46

On day af due n two days after I felt really hot, feint n had sore boobs but didn't know if heat n feint was coz I was on n off the tube visiting London! Day after af was starting to feel sick n got really bad on 2dpo which made me poas as couldn't cope!!

Lolly, now my morning sickness has gone I have no symptoms. I was joking to dh that the dox n midwives have just taken our word for it n we could be lying about it!

I know helen-going quick! Still waiting for a scan date. My sister just noticed me wearing a maternity bra oops.Had to say its coz primark don't sell my size n I needed one without underwire so maternity was the only option. Fx she believes me.

Glad morning sickness has gone-it was horrible! Still can't eat certain foods like pasta n have developed a liking for chicken n chips, but hopefully going back to normal now :-)

misskgb Tue 08-Apr-14 17:57:37

*2 days post af due, not post ovulation! !

weebairn Tue 08-Apr-14 19:08:19

I didn't have any symptoms until about 5 and a half weeks - initially it was slight nausea.

KikiThePea Tue 08-Apr-14 20:17:57

Hi, chilly, I'm doing well, thanks. Big family wedding this weekend, which is going to be a test of stamina!

My symptoms were the weird hot leg thing (which I probably went on about a little too much...), crying over stupid things even though I never cry - annoyingly this one has stuck around. I had really quite horrible cramps so was convinced af was on her wicked way; I did, for a few days, also have a pain in my side that I could only describe as feeling like a stitch.

Good call on the bra excuse, misskgb!

Midwife appointment number 2 tomorrow. It's only going to be a 15 minute one, apparently, so not too sure what to expect other than a quick chat, probably a quick prod, and a run through of my notes.

misskgb Tue 08-Apr-14 21:26:41

Are u 15 weeks kiki? My mw said second appt is 15 weeks n its to go through blood, urine n scan results. Not sure if thats the same in other places tho x

KikiThePea Tue 08-Apr-14 21:46:18

Ooh, thanks for that, misskgb. I guess it will be similar as I'm at 16 weeks. The mw here does a urine test at every appointment, and I'm hoping that the blood conversation is pretty straightforward as I had the tests done at 7 weeks after my first appointment - I guess they'd have called if there was anything that required an urgent conversation (I'm hoping so at least!). My 20 week scan is booked in for 1st May and then nothing else happens until 25 weeks (at which point the schedule seems to go a bit mad with fortnightly appointments) x

mrshjb Wed 09-Apr-14 09:04:10

Thanks for all the stories girls! I'm about 7dpo if everything is as it seems.I'm not symptom spotting because I know it's crazy but if I was I have the worse patches of spots I've had since coming off the pill, a random sore nipple and I've had some pinchy, tightening feelings on both sides very low down on my stomach. Told dh this morning and said I know that my body is crazy so cant read much in to it.... and he just said yeah don't bother thinking about it. Awesome advice, really wish I'd have thought of that before!!!

16 weeks kiki, that's so crazy that your coming up to half way there!! Have you got much of a bump yet?

mrshjb Wed 09-Apr-14 09:05:30

Laughed at your sister story misskgb! Are you waiting for 12 weeks to tell her?

misskgb Wed 09-Apr-14 17:27:27

We're trying to wait for the scan yh. Im away when I turn 12 weeks so hopefully they'll bring it forward n not put it back!

The main reason we're not telling is so neither of us have to deal with our mothers! Mine already has 6 grandkids but she's desperate for me to have one n means she'll invite herself round more often. Can't say no if she turns up as she lives an hour n half away! DHs mum has 2 sons only 1 married, no daughters n is gonna be a nightmare, especially if we have a girl! Neither me or dh like fuss really! !

Lolly84 Wed 09-Apr-14 19:03:13

Hey ladies, looks like everyone is fine and dandy. Thanks for all symptoms. Had my first appt today and male doc was so lovely. He didn't test which I kinda wish he did. He asked lots of questions, weighed me and took height and told me what happens next re midwife. Was really nice to tell someone else. I was surprised the next stage will be a home visit from midwife? Is that normal?

My sis sent me over a few pregnancy books yesterday which was lovely. She knows I'm a terrible googler and has told me these books are better than googling so I am sticking to them for the mo.

Misskgb love the bra story! Kiki I am amazed how fast it's going for you. May not feel like it to you but omg.

Helen if only DH really knew what it was really like. We just become so conscious of our bodies and can't help it. What you are feeling can only be positive eh??


mrshjb Thu 10-Apr-14 07:58:38

Haha looks like it'll be invasion of the grandparents for you then misskgb!

lolly glad your appointment went well. I think reading the books is definitely better for you than googling. Google is scary regardless of what you're going through isn't it!

I know. I think it's much easier to ignore the whole thing when it's not you who's experiencing every twinge etc. I don't know, I think it's probably stuff I get a lot of the time but don't think anything of it normally. I was doing so well over the last couple of weeks but this last day or so I can feel the pressure of the tww hanging over me. It really is awful sad I don't feel like I could have done anything else this cycle, so if it doesn't happen at least I can't blame myself. I'm unbelievably jealous of people who get pregnant straight away and don't have to go through this every month!!!xx

mrshjb Thu 10-Apr-14 07:59:18

P.s. Lolly, my sister's second appt was the midwife home visit!

misskgb Thu 10-Apr-14 18:10:18

Super excited to get my scan date-8th may. Will be 13+2 by then. Can feel a little pouch appearing but im not sure if its dependent on the clothes I wear.

Fx for u Helen-good to hear you're coping (relatively) well!!

mrshjb Fri 11-Apr-14 06:29:29

Ooh how exciting. Bet you can't wait and will be counting down the days! Sure it'll come round pretty quickly smile

binkybunny Sat 12-Apr-14 08:01:13

Just popping into say hi!

Sickness is slowly going away on having the occassional gag now. Even cooked some tasty dinners for the first time since Jan!

misskjb nothing can prepare you for your first scan. Its just amazing. I was surprised I only shed on or two tears. I thought I'd be bawling!

H where abouts are you up to now in your cycle?

mrshjb Sat 12-Apr-14 15:00:20

I think its going to be day 1 for me tomorrow. Had cramps yesterday and bloated and having brown spotting today. Fingers crossed for the next cycle....!

binkybunny Sat 12-Apr-14 16:36:22

H will keep fx either way for you!

misskgb Sat 12-Apr-14 16:52:04

If af does arrive, how many days does that make this cycle? X

mrshjb Sat 12-Apr-14 17:34:29

I'm on 32 days today so that's pretty good really compared to last month. And after last month I'm pretty relieved I didn't get to the stage where I had to keep seeing bfns!

misskgb Sat 12-Apr-14 22:25:26

Awwww well whether its af or turns out to be your bfp, ,properly routing for you! !

mrshjb Sun 13-Apr-14 07:39:45

Thank you smile still just the odd bit of brown spotting at the minute, which is weird. I've only had it on the long cycles before, but I'm still think it's AF not implantation or anything. Wish it would just hurry up and start properly so next cycle can begin!

mrshjb Sun 13-Apr-14 19:46:22

OK so the brown spotting started to disappear this morning and has totally stopped since dinner time ish. Please can someone give me a virtual slap and remind me that this is much more likely to be very very slow start to AF as oppose to implantation bleeding or anything bfp related......

misskgb Sun 13-Apr-14 20:53:45

I can't do the slap h as it could be something much more positive! I don't know much about implantation bleeding but the fact its been brown n not red could make a difference to your thinking, especially with your cramping.. You might need to give it a day or two n poas maybe? ?

misskgb Sun 13-Apr-14 20:54:10

I can't do the slap h as it could be something much more positive! I don't know much about implantation bleeding but the fact its been brown n not red could make a difference to your thinking, especially with your cramping.. You might need to give it a day or two n poas maybe? ?

misskgb Sun 13-Apr-14 20:55:04

I can't do the slap h as it could be something much more positive! I don't know much about implantation bleeding but the fact its been brown n not red could make a difference to your thinking, especially with your cramping.. You might need to give it a day or two n poas maybe? ?

misskgb Sun 13-Apr-14 20:56:28

Many apologies for my phone posting 3 times!!!

mrshjb Mon 14-Apr-14 06:39:03

Haha whoops! Thanks for the positivity but I'm pretty sure it'll turn in to AF some point this week! On the very remote chance it doesn't I'll possibly poas at weekend but can't see it happening!

misskgb Mon 14-Apr-14 10:59:52

Many apologies for my phone posting 3 times!!!

mrshjb Mon 14-Apr-14 14:23:14


misskgb Tue 15-Apr-14 19:12:46

How's everyone getting on? What pregnancy threads have any of u moved on to? X

KikiThePea Tue 15-Apr-14 21:41:56

Hi, everyone!

Just dropping in to say hello and see how everyone is. Just come to the end of the busiest week ever! Discovered last Wednesday that I'm slightly less straightforward than previously thought - according to my midwife my blood tests came and I'm O Negative (didn't know this...and this makes me special), so usefully this makes me rhesus negative and I will either end up having the anti-d injection in about 10 weeks time, or end up being monitored closely for the last of joys. Oh well, not too serious at this stage!

Hope you're all well!

binkybunny Wed 16-Apr-14 07:05:21

Hi all just keeping going here. Good days are more than sicky days and feeling loads better. I have a huge bump too but think some of it is food and bloating still!

Kiki thats a bit rubbish but its not too bad is it? One of my friends was rhesus negative and I think she just had the injections. She is a bit of a drama queen though so I have been trying to ignore all her pregnancy and labour advice!

Misskjb I'm on the October antenatal thread. Its generally quite good but was a little scary to start with. We have a Facebook group too which I like.

binkybunny Wed 16-Apr-14 07:06:21

Sorry couldnt finish post!

Hope everyone else is doing ok. H has af arrived yet?

KikiThePea Wed 16-Apr-14 08:51:38

Hi binky! Glad to hear that you're well.
No, it's not too serious at all. The mw said that it's likely to be very simple and I'll just have the injection. The only time a problem could arise would be if my body has already made the antibodies to fight against the 'intruder' (poor baba being referred to in such terms! Haha), at which point I can't have the injection and would end up seeing medical staff on a much, much more regular basis to be poked and prodded. In reality, at this stage it seems more of a minor inconvenience than something to be worried about!

On the plus side when the mw used the Doppler to listen for the heartbeat she looked incredibly surprised when she hadn't so much as just touched my stomach before we all heard the baby - especially considering her caveat of 'we might not be able to hear it at all, and could be just too small to find quickly.' baby strikes again!

mrshjb Wed 16-Apr-14 08:53:59

Morning, glad you're all doing well. Kiki hope the blood thing doesn't become too much of an issue.

Binky AF is due today, had the first signs of red blood this morning (sorry TMI) and feeling a little bit crampy so think she might be on her way. But it's been such a confusing few days, so I won't believe she's here until she properly is. Feeling a bit miserable really. Not about the prospect of AF being here, but about the nightmare that has been coming off the pill. Every cycle has thrown something new and evil at me! Kinda losing hope of getting a bfp any time soon. Anyways enough moaning, hopefully AF will properly start today so I can pull myself together and move on!

Hope you're all enjoying the lovely sunshine smile

mrshjb Wed 16-Apr-14 09:04:45

Ah AF is now officially here!! Actually really relieved smile

Sorry Kiki think you posted at the same time as me! Laughed at the show off baby. Bet it's lovely to hear the heartbeat!

chillychicken Wed 16-Apr-14 10:09:20

H I'm also really relieved for you! That's a much better cycle length!

Kiki hope everything goes ok with your bloods.

misskjb I'm on the December thread but there isn't much you can say at this point! Haha!

I'm 5+6 today. Horrendous mood swings, cramps ease occasionally and then come back at full force (like at 2am this morning, although it may have been trapped wind grin) and nausea has well and truly kicked in. Oh and I've gone from not being at all hungry ever to needing to eat everything in sight. Midwife appointment is on 28th when I'll be 7+4 so not too long to wait. Still terrified something will go wrong but I'm trying to keep positive. Oh and I am exhausted!

I've got really fed up with people commenting on why I'm not drinking so I bought some "schloer celebration" which looks exactly like cava. I poured a glass of it, put it on the table amongst the snacks we had on Sunday in the garden and put a photo of it on facebook! Friend commented straight away grin So friend is all smug that I couldn't do 30 days off the booze which is excellent because I think she was beginning to guess. I'm not lying either, I had a glass of fizz. It just wasn't alcoholic fizz wink

mrshjb Wed 16-Apr-14 11:46:45

Thanks Chilly smile Yeah a 35 day cycle is so much better, really hope it settles down in to this every month now! (just minus the 4 days of spotting if possible please!)

Sounds like pregnancy is well and truly happening to you now!! I think I should enjoy feeling reasonably well whilst I can from the things you lot are saying!!

Haha clever ploy with the schloer! I'll definitely remember that one!!

Ladymillion Wed 16-Apr-14 14:58:01

Hey everyone, hope you're all okay, I'm technically on the November antenatal thread but haven't been posting on there as there's so many people I feel like I can't keep up with everyone's stories. Much prefer a smaller chat like this thread. Currently 10+2 and back to work after 2 weeks off hmm Booked another private scan for when I'm 11 weeks as my '12 week scan' will actually be when I'm 13 weeks and I can't wait that long blush

H I'm glad your cycle has decided to be an acceptable length this time, that's great news. Really rooting for your BFP, you've been a great support for us lot, got everything crossed for you smile

Lolly84 Wed 16-Apr-14 17:15:27

Hi Ladies

Glad you are all ok.

Helen great news on a shorter cycle. Great they are regulating so you know what's happening. Good Af came before poas!! You going to track ovulation next cycle??

Kiki never heard of rhesus neg, I don't have a clue what blood type I am. Good you knows what they need to do.

I am not on any threads just use baby centre app to track pregnancy. Just don't want to read any scary stories. Loving my pregnancy a-z book.

I have had a bit of a tough time with migraines recently. I usually have them quarterly but I have had 5 since being pregnant which isn't great!! Looked into it and was surprised to read that migraine sufferers usually have less migraines but there are the unlucky few that have many more. Started to get quite anxious about them but makes it worse!! Just need to remember it's all part and parcel of this journey. Not been sick but had few shaky moments. Have mw home visit next Friday where I will be at the end of my 8th week! All I can say is roll on the scan!!!


mrshjb Thu 17-Apr-14 06:31:04

Thanks Lady that's really nice of you. Bet you're looking forward to your next scan. I think I'd be exactly the same. I'm such a worrier! Are the pregnancy threads like the buses?! Never joined one of those because I think keeping up with the conversation would be a full time job!

lolly thanks for that, I was definitely glad not to have to see a bfn again! I think I'm actually a POAS phobic now! Yeah I'm really hoping that they have started to get better. I did have one long cycle, then a short, then a long, then this is a short, so really hoping the next one isn't going to be a long one! I temped last month and I found it really useful. My graph was exactly what I'd have expected it to be and it totally matched with the ewcm so I'm going to do that again next month. I'm having a break whilst AF is here and then might start around CD10-12 ish!

Hope you've all got lovely plans for the bank holiday weekend smile

weebairn Thu 17-Apr-14 17:10:15

Helen I mostly come back here to wave pom-poms for you. Sorry you got your period but hopefully this is a sign of more regular cycles and a BFP on the way!

I am just over 16 weeks now and in a better stage of pregnancy, no sickness any more and the tiredness not so bad - am managing to have fun days running around with my toddler rather than lying on the floor while she climbs on me! I think I have felt movements, just little flutters, once this week and once a fortnight ago. Can't wait till they're more regular, they're the best thing about being pregnant I think!

I think I am just starting to get a wee little bump. There was nothing 2 days ago but it's suddenly there. Still wearing normal clothes to work and haven't told anyone there - bit nervous to really. I have only had one sick day but feel like I've been a bit shit all year. I think I am just feeling paranoid/vulnerable. I am on nights next week so will be in scrubs and no one will notice/care, but maybe the week after that.

I have dipped into the Sept and Oct antenatal group (as I'm due last day of Sept!) but they're very busy and I like it better here, fingers crossed we can make our own thread very soon smile

weebairn Thu 17-Apr-14 17:13:54

kiki how lovely to hear the heartbeat smile smile

My 16 week appointment isn't till next week when I'll be 17 and a half weeks - really hope I get to hear the heartbeat too - that's my favourite thing - far prefer it to scans (which just worry and scare me!)

misskgb Thu 17-Apr-14 18:06:48

Great to hear from everyone! Jealous you've waited til 16 weeks to show weeb-I feel huge!!!

lolly hope the migraines don't last too long. My headaches have got a little worse but uts probably more to do with not eating n drinking properly

Ive not moved over yet, had a couple of glances but not really wanted to stay!

binkybunny Thu 17-Apr-14 21:10:12

Hi everyone. wee cant believe you are just showing. I am huge! Think I have eaten way too much though. I too have felt a few flutters this last week. Its a bit scary and exciting all at the sametime!

I def prefer this thread. I'm struggling with some of the things happening on my antenatal one at the moment!

H pleased in a way AF arrived. Here's to next month and enjoy feeling good, drinking wine and eating rare steak/ runny eggs/ blue cheese while you can grin

misskgb Fri 18-Apr-14 09:08:51

Just enjoy eating whilst you can! Haha smile

binkybunny Sat 19-Apr-14 08:44:25

Def enjoy eating while you can. I've just had a complete teary breakdown because a smoked salmon and scrambled egg bagel made me gag. I am running out of food I can eat especially for breakfast sad

misskgb Sat 19-Apr-14 16:39:25

I could only eat plain bagel, chicken in any kind of breadcrumbs or crisps for a while. Don't really get morning sickness anymore but my appetite has definitely changed- refuse to eat pasta & bread is hit n miss!!!

mrshjb Sat 19-Apr-14 17:10:01

Oh no that sounds rubbish. I'm currently drinking a glass of rose waiting for my takeaway pizza to be delivered. Suppose there has to be some perks of not getting pregnant!!!

binkybunny Sat 19-Apr-14 19:30:03

H I'm so rather jealous of your glass of wine right now!

mrshjb Sun 20-Apr-14 13:03:43

Haha it was very nice, although I would obviously swap it for a BFP in an instant!!

weebairn Mon 21-Apr-14 08:48:16

Hello lovely ladies

All the other threads I go on tend to have people posting from 5 or 6am, so glad to see you lot are still enjoying your lie ins while you can grin Having said that toddler is currently getting up at 7.30 which is amazing after months of 5.30am!

I am 16+5 now and feeling impatient to get past the 20w mark. It still doesn't feel very real. I spent a day in maternity clothes then felt stupid and went back to my normal jeans. Where is my bump?? I should count myself lucky really shouldn't I!? I have a midwife appointment on wednesday and really hoping to hear the heartbeat. I am trying to explain to my 18 month old about the baby, just little by little, hard to know how much sinks in this age. Now when I say "where's the baby?" she pulls up my top, points at my tummy and says "baba." It's SO CUTE!

I am feeling lots of movements which is awesome!!!

I had a large glass of wine the other night (got very merry watching game of thrones) and then felt horrendously guilty for days afterwards blush blush I am a bad mama… (I think an occasional small one is fine but this was definitely a large!!!)

Got some more night shifts coming up boo. They make me SO tired. Don't want to be doing them in late pregnancy so DP is nagging me to tell work and get them to do a risk assessment etc. I keep thinking "just one more week then I'll tell them…"

Hope you've all had a lovely Easter!! tbusmile

mrshjb Tue 22-Apr-14 12:21:08

Hi everyone smile Hope you all had a lovely Easter!

Hope your appointment goes well tomorrow weebairn, your daughter sounds really really cute! Do you think you feel more relaxed with your second one?! You must be very good to manage pregnancy, a toddler and night shifts!! I'm sure I'd be knackered from any one of those!

Nothing to really report from me. AF has gone, Probably going to start dtd towards the end of the week ish. Had a few wobbles over the weekend and started feeling like it was never going to happen to me! Think I need to just get some perspective and remember it takes time for quite a lot of people, whilst making a mental list of all the things I should be making the most of before I do get pregnant! (money, food, wine, sleep, raw steak, soft cheese etc etc... let me know if I've missed anything)!

misskgb Tue 22-Apr-14 15:52:34

poached eggs; alcohol generally; laying on your tummy; eating whenever you like; no headaches; the list goes on!!

haha- it's not a bad thing to have wobbles, just reminds you that this is what you do want. I remember getting upset when af arrived and didn't think it would bother me that much until it actually happened. Keep doing the things you're doing and I'm sure it won't be long for you!

Yes weeb- don't be upset you're not in maternity clothes yet! I've got just the one pair of leggings and when I don't wear them, everything else is either scruffy looking (joggers) or feels horribly tight. I can't believe how much I'm showing already- 11 weeks today!! Bought a nice floaty maxi dress for a wedding at the weekend and had to buy a cardigan to help me hide!!

chillychicken Tue 22-Apr-14 16:45:44

Hi All!

6+5 today and nausea has really ramped up a gear! I’ve lost 3lbs since finding out I was pregnant – I put this down to no alcohol and now not being able to eat a lot!

So my resolve not to tell anyone until 12 week scan went out the window. Had my family (mum, nan and grandad) and DHs parents over on Sunday and my grandad is pretty poorly, plus we found out DFIL is likely to be abroad when I have my 12 week scan so we told them. Well, rather, DH tried to shut them up so I could tell them by asking if they could keep a secret. My mum said “I already know” lots of “what? What?” followed and before I could say “I’m pregnant” my mum said “she’s not drinking” and my nan had jumped up, burst into tears and hugged me. It was all a bit of a blur really but everyone seems thrilled so that’s good. I’ve warned them all not to say a word until I tell them they can and they have all promised to keep quiet.

They’re all really, really happy I told them as apparently my grandad has had a boost and has something to live for now which made me cry!

Still getting cramps but not as often, I’m covered in spots, boobs really hurt and are growing already (grr) and I am sticking to eating what I fancy, when I fancy it. I’m shattered but DH is being brilliant. He’s being so understanding with food (especially on the nights where I just want plain boiled rice!!) and is making sure I rest as much as poss. Nausea is horrendous and gets worse as the day goes on. Haven’t yet been sick though.

Midwife next Monday and then I think we’ll go for an early scan as DH is getting a bit impatient grin but I’m going to talk to the midwife anyway about that just to gauge her opinion. DH wants to come to the appointment but I think it’s pointless as I get the impression it’s just a load of form filling in and answering questions. I think he’s worried he’s going to be missing out grin

mrshjb Wed 23-Apr-14 06:58:01

misskgb yeah I'm sure time will tell, plus I watched a OBEM last night and felt like oh my god what am I letting myself in for, so maybe that will help haha!! I had a friend who was bigger at 12 weeks than my sister was at 27 weeks so think it's just the way it goes for some people!

chilly nice to hear from you smile aww telling your family sounds really really nice! Sounds like your mum knows you very well too!!! Pregnancy side effects sound a bit grim, glad DH is being really good though smile when are you thinking of having your scan?

binkybunny Wed 23-Apr-14 20:17:05

H OBRM gave me complete teary wobbles of 'I cant do this' on Monday. There was nothing bad but it just got all too much at the thought of labour!

chilly it does get better! I'm 15+5 today and although I have the odd sicky moment I generally feel ok. Off so much food though now from when I was feeling ill and pretty much veggie.

Thats so nice about your family too! Esp your grandad!

Hope everyone else is doing ok!

binkybunny Wed 23-Apr-14 20:17:11

H OBRM gave me complete teary wobbles of 'I cant do this' on Monday. There was nothing bad but it just got all too much at the thought of labour!

chilly it does get better! I'm 15+5 today and although I have the odd sicky moment I generally feel ok. Off so much food though now from when I was feeling ill and pretty much veggie.

Thats so nice about your family too! Esp your grandad!

Hope everyone else is doing ok!

misskgb Wed 23-Apr-14 20:38:25

Pregnant women should not be allowed to watch obem, I've decided! Mind you, watching last nights Eastenders also had me in complete tears. Poor dh thought he'd done something to upset me!

Going on holiday next week and can't wait, even if its just to wear what I want n not worry about hiding my bump! We've decided to tell our families when we get back. I'll be 12+4. Won't have had our scan but we've got a football presentation 2 days after the scan n people will start questionning me not drinking AGAIN so will tell friends then so family before. Exciting!

Lolly84 Wed 23-Apr-14 22:17:43

Hey Ladies, hope you are all well!

Helen sounds like there is going to be lots of dtd ahead of you!! Have u thought more about a night away? Really hoping it's your time this month.

Still love OBEM haven't changed towards it. I think it gives such a great insight.

I am 8+3 and have my home visit with midwife on fri which I am really looking forward to. Kinda worried I have not had any terrible symptoms. (Weird to want them eh?) I have had symptoms just not terrible feeling sick!! Suppose we are all diff. Just hope there is a healthy little blueberry (yes that's the size it is this week) in there lol. Spending lots of time with my sis who is 32 weeks has got me really excited.

misskgb Thu 24-Apr-14 11:08:17

Hi Lolly. Isn't it funny that it's a foodstuff they compare the size to each week?! Especially during those first few weeks when a lot of women don't like the thought of certain foods!

I got a bit emotional last night. DH is being great as are the couple of friends who know, but it's a lonely old place being pregnant in the early stages. I still think it's odd I'm 11+2 and noone has proved I'm pg. Obvs had the bfp, sore boobs, morning sickness, growing bump and other things, but noone has PROVED it yet and it's putting proper doubt in my mind.

Stupid I know, but now I see why so many of you have paid for an early scan and kinda wish I'd gone down that route too. To make things worse, my worrying is now worrying DH who is usually the sane one out of the two of us! Help!!!

KikiThePea Thu 24-Apr-14 12:01:17

Morning/Just about afternoon, everyone.

Glad to hear AF showed up in a sensible amount of time this time, Helen - I've got everything crossed for you again this month. Definitely take the time to enjoy the wonderful things you still can at the moment!

misskgb - I know exactly what you mean about the proving thing, although I think the feeling like absolute death would be enough of a clue on its own!

Lolly - you'll definitely need to let us know how the midwife visit goes! How exciting that it's so soon!

Chilly - Glad to hear it's all going well. The first appointment really is just a lot of form filling, but DH actually quite enjoyed it - mainly because he thought some of the questions were hilarious.

weebairn - that's so cute about your toddler! Though I do not envy you the night shifts! Boo indeed

binky - glad to hear you're feeling somewhat better too! It feels so momentous when the sickness goes away!

I'm 18+1 today and baba goes through a couple of periods a day of serious internal acrobatics (not surprised after the performance at the first scan!), so it's nice to have that little bit of reassurance that it's still in there doing what it should be doing. Bump has suddenly expanded, but people keep telling me that it's looking very neat so far as it's all that front (not so secretly thrilled about the fact that all weight has gone to bump so far!). We've got the second scan a week today, so hopefully that will all go well. I'm a bit scared about this one to be honest as all the paperwork about the appointment is doom and gloom-filled about the abnormalities and problems they are specifically looking for - I'm trying to ignore that in favour of being excited about seeing the baby again!

As yesterday was 23rd that means it was exactly 5 months until the due date - that was great, I was thrilled. This morning I woke up and my first thought was ''s now 4 months and x amount of days until due date. That's somewhat intimidating...'

Lolly84 Thu 24-Apr-14 12:25:46


Misskgb - yeh the food thing is funny. I love the babycentre app for all it's little videos and updates. Blueberry graduates to a grape next week and loses its tail wahey! I am feeling exactly like you re the no one has proved this and I have only done two tests from the same pack and they were cheap from Morrisons. Aaargh. But the killer sore boobs are defo a sign. I find it hard to sleep with them, need a sleeping bra, using a cushion at mo to help.

Nausea has really kicked in since the start of this week. Thought I was dodging it but omg. I made spaghetti bolognese from scratch last night and when it came round to eating it I couldn't. Even thinking about it makes me heave.

Wow Kiki 18 weeks, amazing! Are you finding out what you are having?

Infact are any of you finding out? I am 85% sure I will! DH is definitely finding out.


mrshjb Thu 24-Apr-14 12:30:02

Hi everyone, it's so nice to hear from you all smile I feel a bit useless though because I can't really comment or add anything to your stories. But it does make me think one of the best things about being the last to get pregnant is that there are plenty of people to who've already been through it to talk to!! I do love hearing how you're all getting on though!

Kiki Thanks, I am really nervous that I seem to be having a long cycle, then a short, then a long one so by that logic this will be a long one. But I'm trying to keep positive and hoping that it was just my body getting back to normal and from now on stuff might be a bit better! cd9 today so not much to report yet really!

Lolly we have talked about going away. I'm away with my family for a few nights in a couple of weeks so we said we'd chat about it after that! I think the break will definitely do us both good. I'm quite looking forward to having a break with my family too, I am really hoping that the distraction will do me the world of good. And possible after spending 4 nights with my Niece I might not be too keen to get pregnant after all haha!

I was reading an article with Giovanna Fletcher the other day (the woman married to Tom from McFly in case you're not in to celeb gossip like me!) and she was saying she did a hypobirthing course whilst she was pregnant and went on to have a really good labour! Heard anything about it anyone?! I'm not sure how much I believe in alternative therapies but anything that helps you to relax and feel better about the whole thing must be a good thing?!

Lolly84 Thu 24-Apr-14 13:31:17

Ah that's good you are going away Helen!! I think that's what really helped us. May have been a coincidence but do believe it really relaxed us and took the work out of dtd!

I am loving that my sis has done this before me so always texting her asking questions so I am sure we will have lots if advice H.

Oh I have read about hypnobirthing, it's a big thing just now isn't it. I think it's pretty straightforward and all about being in the right frame of mind. Which I think helps for anything that we do in life that's hard. I will defo look into it more. Xx

mrshjb Thu 24-Apr-14 13:40:22

Yeah, it would probably be better if DH was coming, but all being well I will have already OVed by then so it won't matter anyways! Bit worried if it's delayed again so we end up missing a month but nothing I can do really! I definitely think a break in general will do us good though smile

Yeah I agree. Relaxing has to be the way forward doesn't it. I have been really enjoying my reflexology. Again I'm not sure if it helps with the cycles etc but relaxing can't do any harm. Have been forcing myself in to the bath with a book to relax as well! Is it your sister's first?xx

Lolly84 Thu 24-Apr-14 14:02:58

Ah I think you can't plan for every eventuality with regards to Ovulation. You have been doing everything right, it's defo going to happen soon! Everyone is routing for you.

Yes it's my sisters first, what about your sis? She is theost chilled person I know. She is a nurse so she is quite well prepared for all medical stuff. She is planning a home birth which may not as her placenta is misbehaving. I sure whatever happens will be best for baby and sis. Had a baby shower for her when we were together last week with all her friends she grew up with and family. Was so lovely, she was so surprised. I don't see her very often since we love so far apart. Going to have to make a special effort when baby is born.

Lolly84 Thu 24-Apr-14 14:03:33

Sorry for terrible spelling and grammar (stupid phone) x

mrshjb Thu 24-Apr-14 14:41:07

Yeah that's what I thought. TTC puts enough pressure on as it is without restricting your life totally! Hopefully it will, thank you smile

Yeah it was her first as well! Has she found out what she's having? Aw that sounds really nice. Yeah, it's really hard when you live further apart because you'll definitely want to get to see your niece/ nephew as much as possible! That's good that she's so chilled out. Has she been helping you through stuff? Not sure I'd be brave enough for a home birth. I was born at home, but my Mum would probably have a heart attack if I said I wanted a home birth! x

p.s. just re-read the above and I would definitely find out if I was having a boy or a girl!

KikiThePea Thu 24-Apr-14 14:46:26

Lolly - No, we're not going to find out. We've decided we'd quite like the surprise at the end of it, but I completely get why most people want to find out! The midwife I saw a couple of weeks ago was telling me how lots of hospitals aren't offering the information anymore, and recently she'd heard of a couple who were told they were having a girl...months later out pops a little baby boy. I really don't mind either way as long as it's healthy and keeps letting me know its there.

Helen - Hopefully this is the return to normality now. This thread really is such a great place to be the whole way through, so no matter when it's your time there will always be people here to talk to about all of these weird things that happen to you!

misskgb Thu 24-Apr-14 14:51:56

My older sister has 1 and my younger sister has 5(!) so plenty of help once I get around to telling them. DH now wants to wait til after the scan 1) in case anythings wrong and 2) in case there's two in there, but I'm trying to convince him otherwise. I really don't want to have to hide my pregnancy at the presentation but we both need to be happy so we'll see. We said we'll talk about it next week when we're on our holibobs.

Lolly I've got the babycentre app too. It's hard not to read a few days ahead. I love how it pings with each new week. It's great to see the numbers go up, and what the next foodstuff is! Mine is the size of a fig and almost fully formed! I love that he's kicking and stretching even though I can't tell!

I got out of cooking for a while during morning sickness as couldn't stomach the smell, never mind putting it in my mouth. Ate a delicious stir fry last night and actually wanted more. I've not finished a meal for weeks so that was a right treat!!

Don't know much about the therapies and hypnobirthing. I might read about it at a later date. I really want to get into aquanatal classes but there's only a couple round here and either dead expensive or during the day when I'm working!! Grrrr. Football season finishes this week so me and DH are going to try to swim together once a week from now

weebairn Thu 24-Apr-14 15:19:10


had a great busy energetic day yesterday and feeling a bit wiped out and rubbish today. Just trying to take it as easy as I can.

Saw the midwife yesterday and heard the heartbeat for the first time so that was lovely. I am 17+2 now. Toddler was with me and very well behaved, played with some toys in the room and did lots of chatting and smiling, only got a bit upset with the doppler, not sure she likes someone else poking at her mama! So I only listened for a few seconds but it was still beautiful. No more appointment until July which seems AGES but Helen yes I guess I feel more relaxed this pregnancy and don't really care. I am also getting movements every day now!

My bump has turned up yay. It is quite small I guess, don't think anyone else would notice. But I'm pretty sure yesterday was the last day in my skinny jeans! Into tights & skirt combos for this weird in-betweeny period before mat clothes proper!

ah Helen you are doing so well to be so patient (not that you have any other choice! but your attitude is brilliant) I do think this thread has been very lucky and hope some rubs off on you next! But in real life, I have known lots of people take a fair few months and it's all normal (just doesn't feel like it at the time I'm sure). I was 5 months the first time round, coming off the pill, and I think that was reasonably quick really.

misskgb <whispers> Lion marked eggs are vaccinated against salmonella so the risk is very very low - I eat runny eggs smile I'm sure you look lovely in your maxi dress! I think the bump-proper stage is actually easier to dress than the is-she-or-isn't-she stage!
And hang in there, I think 10-11 weeks is the wobbliest time. I didn't have an early scan either and I was very tearful for the week leading up to the scan, and it's all a bit hard to believe it's ok. But if you've had no bad signs by this point all the odds are in your favour smile When is your scan?

chillichicken that's a lovely story about telling your family. I'm sure the news will really help your grandad! I also told my family and close mates way before 12 weeks. DP came to my first midwife appointment with me (last pregnancy) -it's a bit boring though, he didn't come this time! If you go without him just check about any medical conditions in his family.

binkybunny glad the sickness is beginning to pass, it is the worst thing!

lolly I expect you're just one of the lucky ones with sickness! - oops just saw your next post, maybe not. Fingers crossed it's mild and doesn't stick around too long…. sad sad

Kiki you sound like you look fab! Bumps are lovely things. I do find scans stressful but it's very very likely everything will be fine. You're having yours early, mine's not till 15 May (i'll be nearly 21 weeks)

OBEM - you guys are brave!! I watched about a million episodes after my birth last time (during night feeds on a laptop with ear phones mostly!) and cried at every birth… but with another labour to come, I think I'll steer clear for now! Having said that I had a very straightforward (if quite long) birth so though labour is quite an experience it's not always drama (people do love to tell you horror stories - ignore!!) Oh and I did listen to a hypnobirthing cd a lot which I think helped me stay calm on the day (didn't make it hurt less though really). I did have baby at home but I think I was lucky there for a first baby. It is a lottery and if things get complicated it's not your fault - I think it's helpful to stay positive about it beforehand though. If there are problems we can be glad we live in the 21st century...

Not going to find out gender here, happy either way.

mrshjb Thu 24-Apr-14 15:48:29

Kiki, that happened to my friend, so it has made me a bit less willing to trust what they say! I think I'd find out, but take it with a pinch of salt, which I suppose defeats the point in finding out in the first place!! But like you say, I genuinely wouldn't care either way!

misskgb I can't believe your sister has 5 kids and I'm pretty sure you're a similiar age to me?! (26) so that's some going! My sister is knackered enough with one kid, so yours must be superwoman!! My DH also said he would want to wait until after the scan. Like you say you've got some time to talk it through haven't you. I have watched some of the videos on babycentre, I'll definitely be getting the app when it's my time!!

weebairn I'm glad I'm coming off as patient, I might show your comment to DH as I'm sure he thinks I'm obsessed! I always tell him I could be so much worse but he doesn't seem to see it! I do have my moments of wanting to stamp my feet on the floor and complain that life's not fair, but like you say in the real world there are so many people who take a lot longer to get pregnant, so it's not that bad yet! I read stories on here of women who have been trying for years and have had all sorts of horrible things happen so as scary as that is, it does also help me to get some perspective. But the bottom line is that there really isn't anything I can do about it so trying to remain sane is the main thing! Bet it was lovely to hear the heartbeat smile. I also cry at every birth. I blame these crazy hormones that I didn't know I had before I came off the pill!!

weebairn Thu 24-Apr-14 15:53:35

5 kids is madness. Fact. grin How do you even transport them around, in a wheelbarrow??

weebairn Thu 24-Apr-14 15:54:44

helen, yes, I am always telling DP I am actually remarkably sane and normal for a pregnant woman but he never believes me… also he thought doing a preg test 6 days after my period was due was really early...

mrshjb Thu 24-Apr-14 16:42:02

Haha that's crazy get him on here to read the women who poas at 7dpo!!! I always say to DH he should look on here to get some proper perspective on how lucky he is to have me...
. Haha!! I've read some really crazy stuff. My favourite was a woman who said her husband would be in one to watching porn and then she would be in the other room for when he was ready to 'deliver the goods'....!! I think I would have to have a serious look at myself if I agreed to that!

mrshjb Thu 24-Apr-14 16:43:49

Sorry stupid phone messed loads of stuff up there... her husband would be in one room that's supposed to say!

misskgb Thu 24-Apr-14 18:59:09

Weeb-scan is 8th may (2 weeks today) as im away nextweek. I hhad hohoped they'd do it early but no such luck!

H- I'm 28 n little sis is 26. Oldest is 9 n youngest is 4 months. I don't know how she does it, but we see a lot of them which I know helps her out. 7 seater car n just the one in a pushchair this time.

Def show dh the comments-you're doing great!

binkybunny Fri 25-Apr-14 06:51:45

Hi all missed so much in the last day or so!

We are finding out the sex if we can. Our sonographer said yhey might have stopped it by th beginning of June when we go. I'm not too bothered but I'm convinced its a boy so would be nice to have time to adjust if its a girl!

I'm buying the hypnobirthing books and cds v soon as I've heard they are great for relaxing and sleep. Also doing a course at the hospital. I need all the relaxation help I can get!

Going to see family and friends this weekend. Having an engagement party for my sister so looking forward to showing off my bump... But its a drink free party for me :-(

Lolly84 Fri 25-Apr-14 18:36:44

Hi Ladies

Had my mw app today and made things more real! Was pretty boring going through the questions, just felt like I said 'no, no, no, no' and that was about it. Had a protein and glucose urine test which was clear. She is confident I will have scan as close to 12 weeks as poss which works great with telling family. Was good going through options of where to give birth. Only about 3 weeks Til scan and can't wait xx

mrshjb Sat 26-Apr-14 08:10:26

Morning everyone, hope the time flies until your scans misskgb and lolly.

Wow your sister must be constantly tired misskgb! Dont know why I thought you were the same age as me, probably a long time ago when we talked about age! Am I am spring chicken at 26?!

binky you'll have to keep us updated about how you find the hypnobirthing stuff!

It would be weird if you could no longer find out the sex. Suppose people would end up paying private if they desperately wanted to know! Have any of you started to think about names yet?!

Lolly84 Sat 26-Apr-14 09:21:54

Aw thanks H.

My friend went to mothercare for sex scan as his hospital didn't do it.

Yes binky my I would love to hear more about hypnobirthing.

Weft out for a lovely Malaysian meal with hubby last night, ordered what I wanted and when it came out I couldn't eat much of it as went off it. Had a virgin mojito which tasted just like the real thing, so had a few of those. I really don't miss alcohol. Thought I would but defo don't. Think I might just give up all together (with the exception of a glass of champagne for celebrations). Saving lots of money because of it too which is always good.

H, I have a couple of boys names, really want Scottish names as that's where I am from but lived away for 6 years. Not much on the girl front at mo.

Any plans for the weekend ladies? I am going holiday shopping for our delayed honeymoon. Need a hol before baby arrives.


misskgb Sat 26-Apr-14 13:06:28

Morning all. Im looking after the 4 month ild today n didn't realise how much more difficult it makes something like popping to the shops! Especially on my own without dh!!

We've thought of a few names but just writing them down for now n will pick much nearer the time. Hoping to find out the sex so we can buy more things before baby arrives.

Just a normal weekend for us, shopping, visiting friends & football before we go away on mon. Seriously can't wait! !

Lolly84 Sat 26-Apr-14 23:23:48

Oh got date through today for scan when I will be exactly 12 weeks - 19th May. Eek x

weebairn Sun 27-Apr-14 08:17:14

Morning lovelies

Had a nice day yesterday with my little brother and his two kids, one is only 7 weeks younger than my daughter so they love playing together. I keep trying to tell myself there are a few things that will be easier about having two, like the fact they can entertain each other a bit! After the newborn stage at least! Nice to have some sun, the toddler has come out in freckles for the first time which is adorable. Sorry if I talk about my toddler too much on here!

I've got some studying to do this morning for an exam I'm taking in July, then we'l go for a family walk I think (well it's more of a wander with an 18 month old), make some food ready before night shifts (too tired to cook when on nights…)

Even though scans make me a bit nervous, I'm trying to look forward to my 20 week scan in a couple of weeks. Me and DP have both taken the day off work and put DD in nursery so we can go for lunch afterwards and coo over our photo and brainstorm names! We are also planning a couple of mini-holidays before baby, one on our own with the grandparents babysitting, we're going to go hiking and stay overnight at a hotel with a spa smile , and we'll probably go camping with the toddler in the summer. Though I'm leaning towards "glamping" as I don't much fancy sleeping on the ground heavily pregnant! I'm also going away to stay with a mate on my own for a couple of nights and I don't do things like that very often so looking forward to it.

Ah, this year feels so busy with work and exams and mates and holidays… I am rather looking forward to the autumn/winter where I can hibernate a bit with a newborn again. Maybe my last maternity leave so have to make the most of it!!

weebairn Sun 27-Apr-14 08:25:28

mrshjb you are doing brilliantly, all our partners should read mumsnet to appreciate how sane we really are!!

Hope you enjoyed your party binkybunny
I really wanted/thought I was having a boy last time, but somehow it didn't matter at all when she was here, she was just my wonderful girl. So this time I am really happy either way. (I dress her pretty unisex anyway and all she likes is trains, animals and football!! I'll probably get a boy who's into cooking and dressing up this time ;) )

Nice to have a date lolly - yeah the midwife appointments are a bit boring really. I used to really look forward to them mostly as an excuse to get out of work grin

misskgb nice of you to babysit - I remember years ago I offered to look after my brother's 5 month old and thought we'd just lie on the bed and read - haha! It's ridiculous how much time and energy babies take up!

As far as names go, initially I definitely had a boy's name but couldn't think of a girls, then me and DP picked a great girl's name and now I'm not sure about the boy's one… ha. Last time I had 2 boys and 2 girls names and picked the final one on the day.

binkybunny Mon 28-Apr-14 09:18:33

Good morning everyone. Hope you all had a lovely weekend shopping, eating or DTD H wink

Our party was lovely, my mum had organised a joint engagement do for my sis and baby party for us. It made me really excited to be pregnant and got totally fussed over. Also got a lovely bunch of 'flowers' lots of tiny newborn stuff from my aunt and some gorgeous Cath Kidston baby things from my Sis.

Had my first half glass of Champagne since BFP and felt a bit light headed blush

binkybunny Mon 28-Apr-14 09:28:14

wee your hiking holiday sounds fab. I've bought a camp bed type thing as I really dont fancy trying to hoist myself off the floor. Are you going abroad or staying in the uk?

misskjb hope you're having a great time away. At least you've had some practice with the 4 minth old now. grin

lolly bet you're counting days and weeks now! We are until 3 June for our 20 week. Cant wait to see him/her again. Its just so lovely!!!

H we have our names chosen already. We both agreed straight away. I'd always wanted to call my little girl Chloe but it just didnt feel right so have a lovely first and middle name for boy and girl.

Going to order the hypnobirthing cd today so will keep you posted!

KikiThePea Mon 28-Apr-14 13:52:33

Ooh, binky, do let us know about the hypnobirthing things - I'm intrigued! I read the chapter on childbirth in the Mumsnet book yesterday and ended up laughing so hard I was crying...then I wan't so sure I was crying because I was laughing anymore. Small hysterical breakdown, I think.

Helen - We have a shortlist for boys, and girls. We're going to try and get it down to 2(ish) for each and make a decision once we've met baby.

Second scan on Thursday, and mildly terrifying letter re: Anti-d injection in July arrived in the post today. Full steam ahead now and looking forward to seeing baba again on screen soon.

Hope you're all well - all the planned holidays and mini-breaks sound lovely.

mrshjb Mon 28-Apr-14 14:27:16

Hi everyone! Exciting stuff for the scans everyone. Is this your 20 week scan Kiki? Haha oh dear, I can imagine it must be really scary when you're actually faced with the prospect of having to go through labour. I just try and think plenty of people do it more than once so it must be worth it in the end!

Hope you all really enjoy your holidays. Definitely seems like a good idea to get on them before it's too late!

You all seem to be keeping your potential names quiet! Any reason?! I have a girls name but not sure about a boys yet, just a few suggestions there. Obviously first things first is to get a bfp!

Not really any news from me. Started dtd a bit but getting in to the stage where it'll be more regular from now on. On cd13 but best case scenario can't see me OV for another week or so. Worse case scenario it could be another 30 days or something!

Wonder how Gennz and mrsb87 are getting on. Anyone hear from them in pregnancy threads?

chillychicken Mon 28-Apr-14 15:28:33

Hi all!

Had midwife appointment today. She’s adjusted my date from 11th to the 10th so I am 7+5 today but has said the date I receive at the scan is the date they will then work from. Apparently if these dates are correct the latest I’ll have the baby is 22nd grin

She’s made me feel completely at ease with regards to the cramps and the symptoms which disappear one day and appear the next. Haven’t had nausea for a few days now so naturally worried a bit!

I asked her about early scans and she said there were pros and cons so I’m still undecided on this.

Loads of info to read so that’ll keep me busy tonight! Had a blood test and have the form to fill in for my free prescriptions. Scan should be booked in for 4-5 weeks time and then it’s back to the midwife at 16 weeks with a urine sample and we'll listen to the heartbeat then as well. She’s given me details of the antenatal classes and told me to book on to the September/October one as early as poss as it books up quickly.

She was absolutely fantastic and had a fantastic sense of humour. I have her mobile number, the local birthing centre number and the number for the maternity unit at the hospital.

I didn’t ask loads of questions as I’d mainly forgotten them but I came away feeling pretty positive and it definitely feels more real. I can’t wait to go home, curl up on the sofa with a hot chocolate and read through the info grin

I have done no work at all today blush I really need to get on with it otherwise I'm going to get stressed. Oh well, start again tomorrow I guess!

H I got given a book from a kind MNer - "what to expect before you're expecting" and I want to pass it on to another MNer...would you like it? No worries if not, but I thought I'd see if a MNer I know wanted it before I did a general thread smile I also have about 30 IC OPKs if you wanted those?

misskgb Mon 28-Apr-14 17:06:11

Chilly-good to hear your appt went well. Ive not been given anyone's numbers so haven't a clue who to call if I need to!!

12 weeks tomorrow n doing an almighty silent dance inside that I've not noticed anything wrong. Can't wait for the scan to confirm it next week.

Just arrived in Wales. About to go for a walk on the beach. Got a couple of meals out planned, swimming, day at the zoo, walks & chill time to look forward to!

H-not hiding any names here. We're just writing them down n seem to have an ever increasing list going on!! Added lots on the drive up here too!

binkybunny Mon 28-Apr-14 17:56:06

H not hiding names not sure why I didnt say! Joshua Paul and Isabella Francine smile� just hope s/he suit their names!

misskjb sounds like a lovely holiday. V jel cant wait until July for ours!

Lolly84 Mon 28-Apr-14 19:13:45

misskgb - look forward to hearing how your scan goes. It is very nerve racking the whole thing not knowing what's going on until scan. Have a fab hol.

Chilly- sounds like you had a fab mw app.

Names wise I only have a few. Girls I really don't have a strong opinion but like Isabella (lol binky), Isla andSadie. Boys- Blaine is a front runner and Xander is also on list.

mrshjb Tue 29-Apr-14 09:09:31

Morning, nice to hear from you chilly, glad the mw appointment went well and you're feeling good about everything! Thanks a lot for the offer of stuff but I have loads of OPKs that I've not been using and I'm trying to steer clear of reading too much about anything because it makes me over think things. Thanks a lot though smile

misskgb hope you have a fab time in Wales, I went a few weeks ago and I'm going again in a few weeks! It's so nice to get some sea air isn't it!

Love all the name updates! I love Isabella as well smile

Keep putting off dtd, keep feeling like there's no rush because I've never OVed anywhere near this early, will start every other day from tonight though. Tired just thinking about it!!

chillychicken Tue 29-Apr-14 09:37:05

No worries smile

What CD are you h?

We have NO idea on names. We've started a list and we do both prefer traditional names but not the same ones, it appears. The only thing we're set on because I told DH this is what would be happening is the middle name for a boy. My DH and my Dad have the same middle name so I'd continue that.

mrshjb Tue 29-Apr-14 09:52:29

Cd14 today. I definitely prefer traditional names. I'd like to carry on with a family name but there are none that I like haha! Did you do a bit of temping chilly or did I make that up?

chillychicken Tue 29-Apr-14 09:57:31

I did for about a week and then got bored blush I didn't really understand what was meant to be happening, plus I was still drinking so my temp would change depending on how much alcohol I consumed.

mrshjb Tue 29-Apr-14 10:15:07

Haha fair enough. I started mid cycle last month and found it really useful but I'm finding it harder this month because I've been waking up at different times so dunno if that's why my temp is all over the place or whether it would have been at this point on my cycle last time. I want to sack it off too but it really helped me to know when to expect AF last month so don't want to lose that! Such a pain!

binkybunny Wed 30-Apr-14 18:58:47

Am going to ask the question on here as it seems to have got lost on the antenatal thread!

Does anyone know what the sonographer checks at the 20 week scan if we have not asked for any tests done ie downs syndrome? The MW on the antenatal thread said the point of the scan was to check for anomalies but we dont want to know if there are any!

weebairn Wed 30-Apr-14 20:13:48

Hey binky

The downs risk is checked at the 12 week scan and the blood test that goes with it. I don't think they check for anything relating to downs particularly at the 20 week scan. They look at most of the organs in depth to check the heart, brain, spine, kidneys are all functioning etc. Cleft palates. Stuff like that.

Here's a good summary of what they look at in the 20 week scan

If you really don't want to know if there are any anomalies you don't have to have the scan - its not compulsory!

In my last pregnancy I had a low lying placenta on my 20 week scan and I got quite stressed about it, thinking I might need to have a c section etc. They rescanned me at 36 weeks and it was absolutely fine, not low any more. I agree sometimes it's just better not to know!

binkybunny Wed 30-Apr-14 21:36:30

Thanks wee I do want the scan to see our baby again but we dont really want to know about anything that might be wrong! Will have to have a chat with DH and see what we decide to do.

mrshjb Thu 01-May-14 07:10:43

Morning, that's an interesting conversation, didn't really know that you had the option not to have the scan. Do you think you could meet half way and have it so you can see your baby but say that you don't want to be told if there is anything wrong?

weebairn Thu 01-May-14 07:22:31

Why is it you don't want to know about anything that might be wrong?

Is it because you would keep the baby no matter what?

I think I am the same but bear in mind some of the (very rare) conditions they can pick up on the scan are treatable. So if say baby had a heart defect they could make all the plans for surgery immediately after birth, have paediatricians present at the birth to help immediately etc - sometimes they even can operate while baby is still in the womb!! (The mind boggles!) These are obviously very rare situations.

I have a friend who is a midwife who didn't have any scans in her pregnancy, she just kinda wanted to do it all naturally I think

Ladymillion Thu 01-May-14 09:21:56

Hi ladies, this subject came up in conversation with my friend who was around 24 weeks at the time. We were discussing scans and gender etc (I already knew that her and her partner had not wanted to know the sex at their 20 week scan), and she asked if I was going to have the screening for Down's Syndrome. Until then I hadn't even thought that some people might opt out! And then she also said they hadn't wanted to know anything at the 20 week scan either (except checking the heart rate was healthy and growth was on track). Since then I have spoken to another pregnant friend who has also chosen not to have the screening for Down's as it would just make them more anxious and it wouldn't matter either way, she said.

I can understand the reasoning behind this decision but I personally will be having any screening / checks offered - if I received some bad news I'd like to be as prepared as possible; whether that meant speaking to other parents in the same boat or researching or like weebairn mentioned, making sure plans were in place should there be any complications or issues during pregnancy or after birth.

For me, having some kind of control over this roller coaster of a ride stops me from going insane! wink

I've been popping by to get an update on how you're all doing, can't keep away haha xx

weebairn Thu 01-May-14 09:29:50

I considered not having the downs screening but I think I'd want to be forewarned (though i know it's only a risk factor not an absolute unless you have further tests)

Also while I would massively struggle to end any pregnancy, I think I would if the baby had a condition that was incompatible with life, or they would only live a short time in pain after the birth

Very personal decisions, no rights or wrongs

KikiThePea Thu 01-May-14 12:05:03

An interesting, and difficult, question to answer.

We decided not to have the screening for Downs; this is mainly for very personal reasons on both sides. But secondly because we didn't hugely see the point in being given a risk factor - absolutely nothing definite - and there was no way I would go through with the second stage of testing as it carries a miscarriage risk ( I don't care how small, there wasn't a chance I was going to take it).

We're having the 20 week scan this afternoon and have read everything I could on what they're checking for. A friend of the family has a darling little 5 year old who was born with an incredibly rare and serious heart condition - because they knew about this in advance they were all able to prepare and baby was operated on as soon as possible after delivery, and subsequently plan his early-years care in advance. Seeing that this preparation saved his life has meant that I'd always want to know in advance if we needed to be ready for such a situation.

Saying all of that, I completely understand both why people don't want to know anything, and why there are those who want to know everything.

misskgb Thu 01-May-14 16:18:47

I've said I'd like to find out. My 4 month old nephew had a shadow behind his neck on his scans. It could have been several things inc downs n my sis had lots of tests. Baby was born with a slight chest infection n nothing else so lots of worry for nothing.

Despite that, I'd want extra care during pregnancy if it was needed so we've asked to be checked & told n deal with it if we have to. Obs fx we all have healthy pregnancies!

Kiki let us know how u get on!

weebairn Thu 01-May-14 16:24:18

Good luck today Kiki!! Mine is in 2 weeks.

KikiThePea Thu 01-May-14 17:16:20

Hello everyone!

I'm thrilled to say that baba is fine, albeit badly behaved once again - seemed far more interested in showing off its spine and bottom than anything else. Once again it's been accused of being the wriggliest baby the sonographer has ever encountered (not even the same person!), but it was lovely to see everything as it should be - lovely long legs apparently! The placenta is in the correct position so they're not anticipating any more scans. I can relax now (although my poor old pelvis having been jiggled around trying to get the baby to face in the right direction at the right time, may take some more time to recover...)

mrshjb Thu 01-May-14 17:19:50

Aww amazing news Kiki, congratulations!

Lolly84 Thu 01-May-14 19:29:36

I agree very hard question answer. Have opinions but each to their own!

Waiting for first scan is hard. Felt super pregnant last week and not so much this week. Having a lot of ups and downs with it. Feeling a little achey and putting it down to stretching going on. 18 days and counting, wish I could put my mind at rest x

binkybunny Thu 01-May-14 19:48:05

Hi all. Interesting to hear everyones thoughts. We decided not to have the tests as we would continue with the pregnancy no matter what and deal with it when the time comes. There are so many cases of healthy babies being born after months of worry that we just dont want to go through it!

The thought of being able to have surgery straight after birth if anything is found has made me think twice though. Unfortunately I'm not having a 16 week midwife appointment, they don't do them where I am but I think I might see if I can talk through options with my midwife before the scan. We def want to see our baby again and find out the sex!

Kiki so pleased to hear alls ok and s/he was nice and wriggly! Did you find out the sex?

weebairn Thu 01-May-14 20:17:58

Kiki that's great news, so happy for you!

misskgb Thu 01-May-14 21:32:10

Lolly me too. Swam yday no worries but today felt like a stretching feeling. Not always sure what is Rice Krispie & what is constipation! ! Haha (way tmi!) Dh told me I look pregnant today. Still worried how big I am for 12 weeks so can't wait for the scan nxt thurs n to confirm the pregnancy!

Lolly84 Fri 02-May-14 09:32:25

Glad it's not just me, I am sure we will be the same waiting for the 20 week scan lol!! U must be so excited MissKgb?

Having a little bump must be reassuring? I'm starting to feel bigger, feel more bloated than anything. Feel like I was going to pop last night before bed lol. Boobs are aching this morning, I am sure it's the way I am sleeping.

So glad I am working from home today so I can relax a but more. I have been here there and everywhere this week. I work all over the country so nice to be out my car and at home. X

mrshjb Fri 02-May-14 11:56:38

Please can I have a collective finger crossing from you lovely ladies?! Cd17 and ecwm has started over the last day or so, really praying that temperature shows ovulation soon and I have two normal cycles in a row. That's not too much to ask for surely?!!!

chillychicken Fri 02-May-14 12:13:19

My fingers are tightly crossed for you h!

Lolly84 Fri 02-May-14 12:43:42

Everything crossed Helen! U will be sure to ovulate within the next couple of days. Remember legs up in the afterwards. wink xx

binkybunny Fri 02-May-14 12:49:19

Fingers and toes crossed for you H!

binkybunny Fri 02-May-14 12:53:32

Lolly working from home sounds lovely. Hate being at my desk all day,, am knackered today. Also my colleague bathes herself in perfume and it's still making me gag. I could cope driving around instead!

Have had really weird and vivid dreams this week. One night I dreamt I was being mugged and had to wake myself up I was so scared. Last night I dreamt I had had a miscarriage, when I woke up it was just lots of discharge but freaked me out! I keep dreaming my DH and I are trying to DTD in really random places too but get interrupted blush I'm blaming it on the hormones!

KikiThePea Fri 02-May-14 15:24:40

Thanks, all smile

binky, we didn't find out - so,surprise in September!

Helen, I have absolutely everything crossed for you xxx

misskgb Fri 02-May-14 15:37:21

Everything crossed H! :-) keep us updated

Lolly- very excited. Thursday can't come soon enough tbh. It is reassuring to have a bump but still really want someone to tell me for sure everything is ok!

Telling my dad tonight as he's away next week & then will tell everyone else after the scan between Thursday & Saturday so I can relax at our presentation Saturday night! This next week or so is fx gonna be great! :-)

Binky-dh cheated on me in my dreams last week. Was very real & woke up crying but did kick the c**p out of him in my dream for it. Def with u on the discharge thing too. Bloody hormones! !

misskgb Fri 02-May-14 15:37:39

Everything crossed H! :-) keep us updated

Lolly- very excited. Thursday can't come soon enough tbh. It is reassuring to have a bump but still really want someone to tell me for sure everything is ok!

Telling my dad tonight as he's away next week & then will tell everyone else after the scan between Thursday & Saturday so I can relax at our presentation Saturday night! This next week or so is fx gonna be great! :-)

Binky-dh cheated on me in my dreams last week. Was very real & woke up crying but did kick the c**p out of him in my dream for it. Def with u on the discharge thing too. Bloody hormones! !

binkybunny Sat 03-May-14 09:43:47

misskjb hope you had a nice evening telling your dad. Its so lovely sharing the news :-)

I'm 17 weeks huge bump, can feel flutters, have had a scan and still find it hard to think there's a baby in there blush. Every now and again I realise and I get excited/scared/overwhelmed at the same time! Just 4 weeks and 3 days until we see him/her again grin