Come and join us on the brand new, rather fabulous, and very slightly notorious (or so we'd like to think!) JUST SHAGGING PART 19!!

(1000 Posts)
Nessalina Sun 10-Nov-13 00:46:35

Ladies, Fred title says it all; we are the ones who shag as much as our men can cope with in order to get upduffed without the stress of scientific whatnots!

Fred rules (copied from previous Fred)

1. Thou shalt shag as much as humanly possible in order to get upduffed.
2. Thou shalt not partake of OPKs, temping, or charting.
3. Thou shalt keep symptom spotting to a minimum.
4. Thou shalt share with your fredmates where needed.

JSing lingo

ERTD = Evil Red Tide of Dooooooommmmmmm. Or AF to most others.

Viroid = This is you, dear poster. This is from the first JS thread when someone tried to type 'ladies' and it autocorrected to 'Viroids' - so there you go!

Pant snot = Egg white cervical mucus.

Doing a kitten = Getting upduffed soon after joining (warning: may induce envy in other posters).

POAS = Pee On A Stick (of the pregnancy detecting kind, not from a tree). Also known as PIAR (Pee In A Ramekin - cos we're posh birds innit). Or PIATLH (Tea light holder) PIAWG (Wine glass) or anything else you care to pee in!

Shagging like something = JSing like a teenage nymphomaniac.

Giving a hooya = Giving a much needed slap to a fellow poster in danger of slipping into ttc obsession.

Contraband = Of COURSE none of us EVER partake of any silly OPKs or temp charting. They are Contraband.

Icing = ovulating. Another autocorrect development!

Getting your Cape on = planning some serious pouncing on DH/DP

TWOT - Two Weeks of Torture!

The link to Part 18 is here

The current Grads Fred is here

The rather nobbish article in which we become a little bit notorious is here grin

Happy shagging shaggers!

Nessalina Sun 10-Nov-13 00:49:18

Hoping to have some of Zing's Fred-starting baby dust rub off on me wink

lil1ady Sun 10-Nov-13 01:17:43

place marking...

Name: lil1ady
Dcs: None
TTC since: November 12, exactly a year ago today to be exact sad

ZingWantsGin Sun 10-Nov-13 01:20:42

<runs in>

<scatters baby glitter, feeds unicorn and mends any torn capes that were harmed during the making of the last Fred>

Nessalina Sun 10-Nov-13 01:23:40

I forgot the roll call!! shock

Name: Nessalina
DCs: None
TTC since: March '13 (got upduffed on cycle 4, but sadly had to TFMR at week 15, just getting back on the JSing wagon!)

Name: lil1ady
Dcs: None
TTC since: November 12, exactly a year ago today to be exact

Nessalina Sun 10-Nov-13 01:25:28

<scatters baby glitter, feeds unicorn and mends any torn capes that were harmed during the making of the last Fred>

gringringringrin @ Zing

Nessalina Sun 10-Nov-13 01:29:58

That's weird, I'm moving between the app (which I usually prefer) and the mobile site (which I can copy and paste on for roll call), and Zings last post shows as empty! Maybe because it's between < >?! And where I've pasted it, only the addition below shows! How weird is that?!
I now know how to do blank posts at least grin

Nessalina Sun 10-Nov-13 01:31:35

Ok, my app doesn't even show the little triangle brackets, so they show up as spaces on my last post too.
Do I sound like I'm cracking up? If you're not using the app, I assume it does, lol confused

ZingWantsGin Sun 10-Nov-13 01:32:13

Ness that's coz I'm wearing an invisibility cape so I'm only visible to the Chosen Few! grin

DulcetMoans Sun 10-Nov-13 09:02:03

I'm here!!

This it's meant to be blank!

Can't remember the roll call info but think its:

Name: dulcetmoans
Kids: none
TTC since: March 2012 with slight gap. Now 15 cycles in total.

God. Depressing.

ZingWantsGin Sun 10-Nov-13 09:04:08

Name: Nessalina
DCs: None
TTC since: March '13 (got upduffed on cycle 4, but sadly had to TFMR at week 15, just getting back on the JSing wagon!)

Name: lil1ady
Dcs: None
TTC since: November 12, exactly a year ago today to be exact

Name: dulcetmoans
Kids: none
TTC since: March 2012 with slight gap. Now 15 cycles in total

Hi ladies I was on a previous thread and am currently sat cuddling my rather scrummy newborn (2 weeks old today!) This is DC3 and will be our last so sadly I will never be "just shagging" (with intent!) again, it took a fair while to conceive this little monkey (inc a mmc) but just wanted to come pass on some newborn snuggles and good wishes grin

Sausagesaurus Sun 10-Nov-13 09:17:58

Ooo I'm going to join this one!

Name: Sausagesaurus
DCs: None
TTC Since: this is my 1st cycle so November 2013

I have a feeling I'm going to need a few hooya's!

Good luck viroids!

ZingWantsGin Sun 10-Nov-13 09:23:04

Name: Nessalina
DCs: None
TTC since: March '13 (got upduffed on cycle 4, but sadly had to TFMR at week 15, just getting back on the JSing wagon!)

Name: lil1ady
Dcs: None
TTC since: November 12, exactly a year ago today to be exact

Name: dulcetmoans
Kids: none
TTC since: March 2012 with slight gap. Now 15 cycles in total

Name: Sausagesaurus
DCs: None
TTC Since: this is my 1st cycle so November 2013

Nessalina Sun 10-Nov-13 10:28:35

Welcome Sausage (love the name grin) and thanks for the good wishes Blondie smile

juniper81 Sun 10-Nov-13 11:06:56

Hello new Fred!

Name: juniper
DCs: none
TTC since: August 2011 with CMP Jan 12

ZingWantsGin Sun 10-Nov-13 11:09:53

Name: Nessalina
DCs: None
TTC since: March '13 (got upduffed on cycle 4, but sadly had to TFMR at week 15, just getting back on the JSing wagon!)

Name: lil1ady
Dcs: None
TTC since: November 12, exactly a year ago today to be exact

Name: dulcetmoans
Kids: none
TTC since: March 2012 with slight gap. Now 15 cycles in total

Name: Sausagesaurus
DCs: None
TTC Since: this is my 1st cycle so November 2013

Name: juniper
DCs: none
TTC since: August 2011 with CMP Jan 12

GnomieGrace Sun 10-Nov-13 11:27:14

Hello again ladies, I was on fred a few months ago, glad I found you again.

Name: Gnomiegrace
DC: None
TTC since: May 13, 5 cycles

If anyone has found my missing AF please let me know, was due 18 days ago, still no sign and 3 BFN's .....

Nessalina Sun 10-Nov-13 11:34:59

Name: Nessalina
DCs: None
TTC since: March '13 (got upduffed on cycle 4, but sadly had to TFMR at week 15, just getting back on the JSing wagon!)

Name: lil1ady
Dcs: None
TTC since: November 12, exactly a year ago today to be exact

Name: dulcetmoans
Kids: none
TTC since: March 2012 with slight gap. Now 15 cycles in total

Name: Sausagesaurus
DCs: None
TTC Since: this is my 1st cycle so November 2013

Name: juniper
DCs: none
TTC since: August 2011 with CMP Jan 12

Name: Gnomiegrace
DCs: none
TTC since: May 13, 5 cycles

Name: ZingWantsGin (added by Ness!)
DCs: Two?
TTC since: August-ish? Just got her BFP, and is hopefully continuing to lurk! grin

ZingWantsGin Sun 10-Nov-13 11:46:02

if I tell you how many kids I have you'll all hate me....

so "Children: yes" is the correct phrase!smile

ZingWantsGin Sun 10-Nov-13 11:47:43

although it would also explain why this was the last go....

DulcetMoans Sun 10-Nov-13 12:13:17

Isn't this number five zing?

Loved the summary nessa! Was it you that said fajitas too? Defo my fave meal and we have them tonight.

Nessalina Sun 10-Nov-13 12:33:32

Ooh, wel jel Dulcet! Definitely putting then on the menu next week! grin

AuntieMaggie Sun 10-Nov-13 13:30:56

Just popping on to say good luck to you lovely ladies and thank you for all the support you've given me flowers

thelentil Sun 10-Nov-13 13:39:48

Hello all

No kids
TTC since Aug 12, MCs Oct 12 and May 13

thelentil Sun 10-Nov-13 13:41:10

Big congrats to Maggie and Zing, hope all goes well smile

thelentil Sun 10-Nov-13 13:48:15

I first heard about this thread in the rather nobbish article, thought you all sounded like my kinda people!

juniper81 Sun 10-Nov-13 14:13:54

Hey lentil that's good to hear. His sneering didn't work!

So, the first thread hooya may need to be issued to me but...when's the earliest you can/could test? I'm about 6 or 7 dpo, when's the earliest I would see a positive if there was one? This week is going to drag by so slowly!

thelentil Sun 10-Nov-13 14:30:27

I think it detects a smaller percentage of pg's when you test early, so if you get BFN, it doesn't mean you're not pg

I mostly wait until a couple of days before AF due, usually on a Friday when I'm going out and want to know if j should be feeling guilty about having a couple of bottles glasses of wine

FurryScoob Sun 10-Nov-13 14:37:27

Ooooo new thread!
Can someone add me to the role call I don't know how to do it on my phone blush

Name: Furryscoob
Kids: none
TTC since: July 2013

lil1ady Sun 10-Nov-13 15:50:55

Ahh Nessa your final post on old thread is lovely smile

ZingWantsGin Sun 10-Nov-13 15:55:13

I think it's Nessa hands to do the roll call, but I can do it later if needed.

Right now I'm sitting on kitchen floor coz if I stand up I feel dizzy.
it's even dirtier close up then from ↑ up there!


not 5th. number of perfection.
don't hate me.

Bearfacedchic Sun 10-Nov-13 17:06:09

<slides in on furry socks> Wait! Don't start without me! I'm late but here. Phew!

Lovely final post from Nessa <awards gold star>

Many congrats Zing! Hope you're alright down there on the floor and that the dizziness passes soon. So is that #3 for you then?

Maggie- sorry you're off and hope it works out for you. thanks

Right, roll call:

Name: Bearfacedchic
Children: zilcho
Ttc since: August 2011 making it now 27 cycles. Yawn. Being referred for IVF. Get those test tubes and Bunsen burners out! grin

1974rach Sun 10-Nov-13 17:43:14

Hello all :-)

Name 1974Rach (Rachael)
No Kids (yet)
TTC since 09/11/2013

Finished pills yesterday and we're on full speed ahead for our little baby

Good luck all!


Bearfacedchic Sun 10-Nov-13 18:01:21

Good luck rach and welcome to the Fred.

I'd just like to express my first annoyance of the thread. Like lots of other families, mine have had their disagreements, but I thought after about 20 years of no contact with one family member, I thought I'd reach out and send a hi how are you doing message. I've never fallen out with this person but we just haven't been in contact because if the older generation's disagreements. Anyway, I sent the message and the person deleted the conversation. I'm just quite dismayed that someone can be so rude and also so arrogant. Maybe I should have expected it, but I just thought it would be nice to be in contact, not best buds or anything. I'm a bit shocked and pissed off tbh but well, that's that, I guess.

QuarksInAPearTickle Sun 10-Nov-13 18:17:44

Name: Nessalina
DCs: None
TTC since: March '13 (got upduffed on cycle 4, but sadly had to TFMR at week 15, just getting back on the JSing wagon!)

Name: lil1ady
Dcs: None
TTC since: November 12, exactly a year ago today to be exact

Name: dulcetmoans
Kids: none
TTC since: March 2012 with slight gap. Now 15 cycles in total

Name: Sausagesaurus
DCs: None
TTC Since: this is my 1st cycle so November 2013

Name: juniper
DCs: none
TTC since: August 2011 with CMP Jan 12

Name: Gnomiegrace
DCs: none
TTC since: May 13, 5 cycles

Name: ZingWantsGin (added by Ness!)
DCs: Two?
TTC since: August-ish? Just got her BFP, and is hopefully continuing to lurk!

No kids
TTC since Aug 12, MCs Oct 12 and May 13

Name: Furryscoob
Kids: none
TTC since: July 2013

Name: Bearfacedchic
Children: zilcho
Ttc since: August 2011 making it now 27 cycles. Yawn. Being referred for IVF. Get those test tubes and Bunsen burners out!

Name 1974Rach (Rachael)
No Kids (yet)
TTC since 09/11/2013

Name: quarksinapeartickle
No kids, 1 mc in Oct
Ttc since Nov 2012 (gulp....a whole year)

QuarksInAPearTickle Sun 10-Nov-13 18:21:53

Rights that's the role call updated I think! Apologies if it is wrong!

Welcome to the newbies! Congrats on the BFP zing hope u can get up off the floor soon!

bear that's v annoying. Probably best to just leave them be now if they can't be faffed to be polite!

I'm in the twot. Bored bored. Dh said in a drunken
State last night that he really really wants a baby! Argh it's too hard!

QuarksInAPearTickle Sun 10-Nov-13 18:22:59

Oh meant to say, loves the summary on the end if the last thread! Thanks nessa. flowers

ZingWantsGin Sun 10-Nov-13 18:45:32

I never said how many children we have, because noone has asked and I totally get how seeing a big family around you can be upsetting and I didn't want to "rub your noses" in it, so to speak.
I still don't want to say it, as I really don't want anyone to be upset.

I do feel bad for not saying something earlier, but in the beginning it was relevant and later I felt that I can't just say it until someone asks directly.

so what shall I do?

ZingWantsGin Sun 10-Nov-13 18:46:33

* in the beginning it was NOT relevant. ...


1974rach Sun 10-Nov-13 18:59:52

I so want to jump oh's bones tonight, but I've just changed the sheets...

Shag fest v's sleep fest??? oh what a dilemma!


FurryScoob Sun 10-Nov-13 19:33:00

rach as long as the little swimmers get to the right place you don't have to use a bed! wink

zing I think it's great you already have a big family, means you've been through this TTC malarkey enough times to give us all some good advise

ZingWantsGin Sun 10-Nov-13 19:35:33


shag then sleep. come on, do it!

Nessalina Sun 10-Nov-13 19:37:05

Ha! I feel your pain Rach, clean sheets are all about the cosy snoozing, but sometimes a JSer's gotta do what a JSer's gotta do! wink
Thanks for the roll call update Quark, I've been mobile this afternoon on a hellish trip to IKEA!! I swear me & DH had three separate arguments about practically nothing, and he's still sulking now! hmm
I'm a nosy cow, and as it's my fault the subject has arise in the first place, I'll ask: Zing! How many children do you have?!
If it makes you feel any better, if it's more than three already, then being as you have a new bun in the oven as well, I will feel more sympathy than envy! wink

ZingWantsGin Sun 10-Nov-13 19:59:17

allright Ness, you are twisting my arm. here goes.

PFB is going to be number 7. we have 5 boys and a girl, DS1 is 12 y, DD is 18 months.
And to be honest I'm a bit scared...

(I really hope I'm not upsetting anyone in anyway.)

thelentil Sun 10-Nov-13 20:10:51

Zing that's amazing and no one should begrudge you trying, hope you get a pink one and even the numbers up a bit

DP and I discussed adoption with docs visit looming, he's not keen but would support me which may mean that pfb ends up being "mine" instead of "ours", not ideal

BecauseIsaidS0 Sun 10-Nov-13 20:12:31

zing no upset feelings. I take my hat off, that must be a handful!

Nessalina Sun 10-Nov-13 20:18:25

My word Zing! That is a handful indeed! Not surprised that you're feeling a bit on the nervous side blush
Wow. Seven. I'm in awe.

DulcetMoans Sun 10-Nov-13 20:21:32

I'm sure it wouldn't upset anyone zing. That's amazing. You are very lucky but I know you know that already. I cheer lead on MN, only get affected if its RL people I know that get their BFP but I am much much better at being understanding now anyway. How did Mr Zing take the news anyway? Not sure we asked!!

Totally with you on the sheets thing rach! Perhaps you can do it on top of the bed instead, then still clean inside!

SA day tomorrow. It's been an odd house today, kind of talking about it but not saying anything specific. Plus he's been making sexy face all day. If he wasn't on a ban before the SA we would have been JSing all day!

1974rach Sun 10-Nov-13 20:42:47

Thanks for the giggles. OH is rolling his eyes at MN. I have told him I am practising being pregnant when I nag him.

Definitely gonna get jiggy later whoop whoop.

AuntieMaggie Sun 10-Nov-13 21:22:32

zing you are a brave woman - I'm scared about having one! I always thought it would be nice to have a big family though - DPs mum is one of 12 and they're all quite close.

Minion Sun 10-Nov-13 21:33:17

Name :Minion
Kids: none ( not through lack of trying)
TTC: yes but getting over it quickly. Cycle 11... DE.PRESS.ING!

cookielove Sun 10-Nov-13 21:49:00

Hello all smile

Can l be added pretty please?

Name: Cookielove
kids: None
TTC: Jan 2013 (miscarried in sept 13)

Nessalina Sun 10-Nov-13 22:13:28

Name: Nessalina
DCs: None
TTC since: March '13 (got upduffed on cycle 4, but sadly had to TFMR at week 15, just getting back on the JSing wagon!)

Name: lil1ady
Dcs: None
TTC since: November 12, exactly a year ago today to be exact

Name: dulcetmoans
Kids: none
TTC since: March 2012 with slight gap. Now 15 cycles in total

Name: Sausagesaurus
DCs: None
TTC Since: this is my 1st cycle so November 2013

Name: juniper
DCs: none
TTC since: August 2011 with CMP Jan 12

Name: Gnomiegrace
DCs: none
TTC since: May 13, 5 cycles

Name: ZingWantsGin (added by Ness!)
DCs: Two?
TTC since: August-ish? Just got her BFP, and is hopefully continuing to lurk!

No kids
TTC since Aug 12, MCs Oct 12 and May 13

Name: Furryscoob
Kids: none
TTC since: July 2013

Name: Bearfacedchic
Children: zilcho
Ttc since: August 2011 making it now 27 cycles. Yawn. Being referred for IVF. Get those test tubes and Bunsen burners out!

Name 1974Rach (Rachael)
No Kids (yet)
TTC since 09/11/2013

Name: quarksinapeartickle
No kids, 1 mc in Oct
Ttc since Nov 2012 (gulp....a whole year)

Name :Minion
Kids: none ( not through lack of trying)
TTC: yes but getting over it quickly. Cycle 11... DE.PRESS.ING!

Name: Cookielove
kids: None
TTC: Jan 2013 (miscarried in sept 13)

ZingWantsGin Sun 10-Nov-13 22:24:41

thanks everyone, I'm so glad it's not an issue!smile

MrZing and I had a few chats in August and we decided to go for it.
both shell shocked.

and the "pink baby" thing - yes, I think I'd like another "ally" wink but I don't mind.
will find out this time - so I can get organised.

<sprinkles baby glitter>

Redshoes56 Mon 11-Nov-13 03:22:18

Name: Nessalina
DCs: None
TTC since: March '13 (got upduffed on cycle 4, but sadly had to TFMR at week 15, just getting back on the JSing wagon!)

Name: lil1ady
Dcs: None
TTC since: November 12, exactly a year ago today to be exact

Name: dulcetmoans
Kids: none
TTC since: March 2012 with slight gap. Now 15 cycles in total

Name: Sausagesaurus
DCs: None
TTC Since: this is my 1st cycle so November 2013

Name: juniper
DCs: none
TTC since: August 2011 with CMP Jan 12

Name: Gnomiegrace
DCs: none
TTC since: May 13, 5 cycles

Name: ZingWantsGin (added by Ness!)
DCs: Two?
TTC since: August-ish? Just got her BFP, and is hopefully continuing to lurk!

Name: Thelentil
No kids
TTC since Aug 12, MCs Oct 12 and May 13

Name: Redshoes56
DCs: Not yet!
TTC Since: Um....yeah, it's been awhile. Been "Just Shagging" here since Sept. 12 shock

Redshoes56 Mon 11-Nov-13 03:24:54

Thanks for setting up the shiny new fred, nessa! I hope it will be lucky for all of us.

Oops I left a whole lot of people off the roll call, cutting and pasting is difficult after a glass of wine!

Name: Nessalina
DCs: None
TTC since: March '13 (got upduffed on cycle 4, but sadly had to TFMR at week 15, just getting back on the JSing wagon!)

Name: lil1ady
Dcs: None
TTC since: November 12, exactly a year ago today to be exact

Name: dulcetmoans
Kids: none
TTC since: March 2012 with slight gap. Now 15 cycles in total

Name: Sausagesaurus
DCs: None
TTC Since: this is my 1st cycle so November 2013

Name: juniper
DCs: none
TTC since: August 2011 with CMP Jan 12

Name: Gnomiegrace
DCs: none
TTC since: May 13, 5 cycles

Name: ZingWantsGin (added by Ness!)
DCs: Two?
TTC since: August-ish? Just got her BFP, and is hopefully continuing to lurk!

Name: Thelentil
No kids
TTC since Aug 12, MCs Oct 12 and May 13

Name: Furryscoob
Kids: none
TTC since: July 2013

Name: Bearfacedchic
Children: zilcho
Ttc since: August 2011 making it now 27 cycles. Yawn. Being referred for IVF. Get those test tubes and Bunsen burners out!

Name 1974Rach (Rachael)
No Kids (yet)
TTC since 09/11/2013

Name: quarksinapeartickle
No kids, 1 mc in Oct
Ttc since Nov 2012 (gulp....a whole year)

Name :Minion
Kids: none ( not through lack of trying)
TTC: yes but getting over it quickly. Cycle 11... DE.PRESS.ING!

Name: Cookielove
kids: None
TTC: Jan 2013 (miscarried in sept 13)

Name: Redshoes56
DCs: Not yet!
TTC Since: Um....yeah, it's been awhile. Been "Just Shagging" here since Sept. 12

fifi669 Mon 11-Nov-13 10:01:57

I'm still lurking.... Can't even consider moving til my 12 week scan due Boxing Day. Prob still lurk then to cheer you on!

Name: fifi669
Kids: DS 05/12/10
TTC: April 2013, BFP October 2013.... Hanging around til it seems real.....

EssiesInvisibleLlama Mon 11-Nov-13 10:03:52

<bursts through door astride exhausted worn out mud splattered unicorn>

PHEW! I thought I'd lost you all!

I have not read from the top yet, hope everyone is ok. Congrats Zing! Have I missed any other bfps?

EssiesInvisibleLlama Mon 11-Nov-13 10:05:01

ooh, better be official.

Name: Essie
DC: nope
TTC: Since Dec 2013

1974rach Mon 11-Nov-13 10:20:17

Am sulking today... I totally killed the mood last night. We were having a snuggle in bed and he said something along the lines of "if we do have a baby...blah de blah de blah".

Not that I am normally one (yeah right) to strop I said "what do you mean if?!?"

Of course OH got all apologetic and I was too pissed off to be a big girl and let it go. I am feeling a bit anxious cause of our age, we both would love to have a family and I am a bit scared our dream won't come true.

Note to self: get a bloody grip woman!

ZingWantsGin Mon 11-Nov-13 10:29:47

oh, that is annoying. little things like that can sting and apology doesn't cure it instantly.

but now you know his Christmas present should be a mug with printed explanations of the differences between the words "if" & "when" wink

(just trying to cheer you up)

ZingWantsGin Mon 11-Nov-13 10:53:18

actually I rephrase it "things like that"

if it upsets you it's not a "little" thing.

Nessalina Mon 11-Nov-13 11:44:46

Name: Nessalina
DCs: None
TTC since: March '13 (got upduffed on cycle 4, but sadly had to TFMR at week 15, just getting back on the JSing wagon!)

Name: lil1ady
Dcs: None
TTC since: November 12, exactly a year ago today to be exact

Name: dulcetmoans
Kids: none
TTC since: March 2012 with slight gap. Now 15 cycles in total

Name: Sausagesaurus
DCs: None
TTC Since: this is my 1st cycle so November 2013

Name: juniper
DCs: none
TTC since: August 2011 with CMP Jan 12

Name: Gnomiegrace
DCs: none
TTC since: May 13, 5 cycles

Name: ZingWantsGin (added by Ness!)
DCs: Two?
TTC since: August-ish? Just got her BFP, and is hopefully continuing to lurk!

No kids
TTC since Aug 12, MCs Oct 12 and May 13

Name: Furryscoob
Kids: none
TTC since: July 2013

Name: Bearfacedchic
Children: zilcho
Ttc since: August 2011 making it now 27 cycles. Yawn. Being referred for IVF. Get those test tubes and Bunsen burners out!

Name 1974Rach (Rachael)
No Kids (yet)
TTC since 09/11/2013

Name: quarksinapeartickle
No kids, 1 mc in Oct
Ttc since Nov 2012 (gulp....a whole year)

Name :Minion
Kids: none ( not through lack of trying)
TTC: yes but getting over it quickly. Cycle 11... DE.PRESS.ING!

Name: Cookielove
kids: None
TTC: Jan 2013 (miscarried in sept 13)

Name: Redshoes56
DCs: Not yet!
TTC Since: Um....yeah, it's been awhile. Been "Just Shagging" here since Sept. 12

Name: fifi669
Kids: DS 05/12/10
TTC: April 2013, BFP October 2013.... Hanging around til it seems real.....

Name: Essie
DC: nope
TTC: Since Dec 2013 <-- do you mean 2012? - Ed

DulcetMoans Mon 11-Nov-13 11:46:11

It's pot day! Sample acquired and now off to rush it to the hospital! A bit exciting but annoying as DH is still not ready and have 15mins til appointment time.

Keeping soilders warm and safe in bra at the mo, the things we do!!

Nessalina Mon 11-Nov-13 11:50:30

I have to say I always say 'if' not 'when' purely because I don't like to feel I'm tempting fate! But there's a big difference in the way you can say 'if' I think. I always do it with great theatre to emphasise that I really mean 'when'... grin
Bear I missed your rage further up thread, how annoying is that?! Seems ridiculous to not even be polite and give you the time of day sad.
Essie glad you found us! grin
fifi hang about as long as you like!

Nessalina Mon 11-Nov-13 11:51:32

X-post Dulcet! Good luck keeping the lil' swimmers toasty! grin

Nessalina Mon 11-Nov-13 11:52:31

I'm still in bed. Two weeks off work is making me very lazy indeed!! Not sure how I'll cope with going back!

FairyJen Mon 11-Nov-13 11:56:44

I woul like to join pretty please.

2dc ( one of each )

Agreed yesterday to ttc. 3rd. Big decision as dc2 was the most traumatic birth and emotionally painful experience I've ever been through and I'm petrified of a repeat!

My new mantra?

If zing can cope with 7, I could cope with 3! Repeat continuously...

ZingWantsGin Mon 11-Nov-13 12:00:00



You keep your "babies" warm on your bosom.
I actually love that image.

1974rach Mon 11-Nov-13 13:14:15

thanks ladies in the cold light of day I know he meant "if (we are lucky enough to) have a baby". I've got a great man who is looking forward to being a daddy almost as much as I'm looking forward to being a mummy.

On another note, we are totally confused (not hard it must be said) I have ordered a bumbo for my newborn niece, it arrived today at home. It is supposed to be delivered tomorrow to work. I know this for sure cause I spoke to the delivery people, but interlink have delivered today and hermes are delivering tomorrow. oh well! We may have the first thing for our baby before they are even conceived!

1974rach Mon 11-Nov-13 13:15:37

Hope the swimmers were nice and warm dulcet!

thelentil Mon 11-Nov-13 14:17:48

Maybe wrong thread but I'm sure you'll know, what's the deal with pineapple? Is it to be eaten or avoided? What does it do?

EssiesInvisibleLlama Mon 11-Nov-13 14:41:10

Ness yes sorry I meant Dec 2012. Duh.

Bear Sorry about your relly rejecting your communication like that, thats just plain rude and really rather upsetting. Hope you are ok. (p.s love your sock slide grin)

Sorry I've not got much to contribute at the moment. In a bit of a no-mans land I'm afraid. The foof docs decided they don't want to fix my cervix, but I've got to go back for another camera up there in December. Nothing to stop us continuing with jsing til then, but I suspect it is in vain, though they say there isn't a problem and there is nothing to stop me getting upduff, though a year on I'm afraid I have to disagree, there clearly IS something stopping it! Guess I have to wait til Dec and go for that appointment and see what they say. So feel a bit in limbo for now. hmm

1974rach Mon 11-Nov-13 15:34:25

essie... sending you a friendly punch on the arm (feel free to swap for a hugsmile )

EssiesInvisibleLlama Mon 11-Nov-13 15:43:00

Thanks Rach, nice to meet you! Welcome to our friendly unicorn farm! A punch on the arm is more what I need than a hug really. In danger of crying if anyone is too nice to me!

So whats this article that was written about us???? Everyone keeps referring to it and I have no idea what you are on about....

1974rach Mon 11-Nov-13 15:56:02

Nice to meet you too Essie smile I'm the same... punching me in the arm is often better than a hug especially if you don't like crying women. I am not an attractive cryer either haha.

The link to the article is on the first post just at the bottom. enjoy xx

DulcetMoans Mon 11-Nov-13 16:03:17

Oh did you miss it essie? Sure someone will link you (on phone so I can't) but basically some knob head jorno went looking for the 'seedy underbelly of MN' and we were the worst he could come up with!

rach - there is something in pineapple that supposedly helps with implantation if eaten between dpo 1-5. If you eat too much of it before ov though it can make the foof too acidic so only have after ov. I have no evidence it works. Tried it last month and nothing and had it this month on two days after ov so will see!

Pot safely handed over to clinic now. Only slightly awkward! Mainly because DH was with me, which is right and his choice, but then at one stage you are essentially in a room with a nurse holding a full pot and an 'empty' DH and everyone knows how both occurred IYSWIM!

Picked up a brochure about infertility while I was there. There's a monthly support group apparently but wondering how infertile you would have to be to fit in there really. I'm still at investigation stage so probs too early.

lil1ady Mon 11-Nov-13 16:27:13

good to hear things are moving forward now dulcet

Essie try and stay positive. focus on getting to the next appointment

can't remember who asked about pineapple but its bromelain, mist concentrated in the core, that aids implantation. cut the pineapple into 5 inlc core and eat on 1-5 dpo only. excess bromelain is thought to cause miscarriage in some cultures so don't eat more than 5days. but it didn't work for me so...hmm

well if anyone needs me I'll be heating up the pity jacuzzi... no prizes for guessing why sad

Nessalina Mon 11-Nov-13 16:37:30

That sucks Essie, but if it helps, according to the NHS only 84/100 fertile couples will conceive in the first year trying, so it may just be bad luck for you and DH rather than a busted foof? Really hope so anyway! I guess it can't hurt to get your cape on either way, though I'm sure it gets pretty dispiriting, and I know I'd be v.stressed a year in  BTW there's a link to the JSing article at the bottom of the OP!

I'm guessing the witch has turned up lil? Boo!!!

I am dying to get back to JSing, believe it or not me & DH have not done the deed since I found out I was pregnant! I didn't feel like it, and DH didn't mind too much, I'd hoped we could start again in 2nd tri, but then bad scan, extra MC worries, etc.
Now it's over a week since the TFMR and I am most definitely ready to get my cape on again (and so is DH!!) but doctors orders are another week before we're allowed. Four months! We may not get back out if bed once we get in it 

1974rach Mon 11-Nov-13 16:52:49

For & cake & thanks that evil witch...grrr...bitch

Nessa I so want to sing " lets get it on" at you but fear you may slap me!! grin

Nessalina Mon 11-Nov-13 16:59:12

Ha! grin < gets out Barry White album for 5 days time >

flymo79 Mon 11-Nov-13 17:01:46

hello - most impressed by the notoriety, esp the bit about being only two clicks away from a discussion about CM. that's the way we like it, huh?!
If anyone wants a pant-snot update I'm always ready to offer.
Flymo, TTC for 5 cycles, no kids

lil1ady Mon 11-Nov-13 17:12:40

Thanks nessa and rach.

hope the next 5days go quickly for u nessa - what cape will you be donning for the occasion?

cookielove Mon 11-Nov-13 17:19:27

Erm quick question.

You know those opk's none of us are using. Is a negative no line at all or a faint line?

lil1ady Mon 11-Nov-13 17:49:02

faint line is negative. has to be as string as control

lil1ady Mon 11-Nov-13 17:49:50

*strong...and when I'm not using them I get a couple of faints before an obviously positive one. hope that helps

Nessalina Mon 11-Nov-13 19:18:03

Yep, when I haven't used them I've tended to keep them and line them up (much to DHs disgust!) which helps to see the line darkening. It's hard to tell when you're just looking at one if it's darker or lighter than the day before! I also didn't use them twice a day around likely icing time, and got the darkest line on an evening pee, much darker than lunchtime the same day! smile

Nessalina Mon 11-Nov-13 19:20:38

Lil I'm thinking something quite festive, red velvet with a white faux fur trim perhaps?
We're only allowed recreational JSing until my official first ERTD rolls in unfortunately, but I'm looking forward to it nevertheless!! grin

cookielove Mon 11-Nov-13 19:55:40

Yup yup i was more wondering about can you ever get only the control line as I've had a positive and a faint negative but not ever one line only. Does that make sense?

Nessalina Mon 11-Nov-13 20:04:56

I'm not sure you can only get the control line actually, because unlike HCG (which HPTs detect) there is always a low level of lutenising (sp?) hormone in your system. It's the surge of the hormone that indicates that you're about to OV. So you will mostly see a dark control line and a light test line indicating a 'negative' and will only see a dark test line on the day before OV!

cookielove Mon 11-Nov-13 20:26:02

Ok great that's what I wanted to know!

BecauseIsaidS0 Mon 11-Nov-13 20:27:03

...and now I'm laughing hysterically at this and he definitely thinks I've lost it:

If anyone wants a pant-snot update I'm always ready to offer.

BecauseIsaidS0 Mon 11-Nov-13 20:27:50

Oops sorry I mixed two threads! But still laughing hysterically. Good ole PMS eh?

Bearfacedchic Mon 11-Nov-13 21:35:51

Gah - I've ditched the relly. Annoying so and so. Now wonder the world is in the state it's in. Gah!

Hello Jen and Flymo and any other newbies I've missed.

I always thought the line had to be as dark as the control line for it to be a positive. That's what a friend told me anyway. . .

Zing- don't be daft! As others have said it's only RL where people get upset and that's because WE CAN SEE THEM. grin 7 is more than a handful for sure. <awards gold star> Well done on sticking with it!

I keep daydreaming about Baby Bear. I know it's wrong and it might all go horribly wrong, but I can't help myself. It's my only bit of hope. Hooya needed please!

Bearfacedchic Mon 11-Nov-13 21:36:33

Because - pant snot updates always welcome here!

DulcetMoans Mon 11-Nov-13 21:38:56

I thought you couldn't get one line either cos I never saw it but then was talking to my friend and she used the same ICs and had one lines at parts of her cycle so maybe you can? Maybe that is where there is barely any LH for some people? Just supposing, I don't know for sure.

Liking the festive cape nessa. Might get myself one of those!

lil1ady Mon 11-Nov-13 21:40:12

cookie I get only the control line. I only get faint/strong lines with it for 3or 4 days but its true u always have lh. its the surge you are looking for.

Nessalina Mon 11-Nov-13 22:10:50

I guess people do have different levels! Even at the highest level my test line never got quite as dark as my control line, I was only sure it was 'the surge' because I'd kept all the sticks and it went faint again the next day. Only used them for that one month and it was the month I got upduffed!
Not that I'll be using them again this time. Oh no. They is contraband. wink

Redshoes56 Tue 12-Nov-13 04:26:12

No hooya for you, bear - you've come so far, you have the right to think positive. Have faith that science will prevail!

nessa cape sounds so festive!

1974rach Tue 12-Nov-13 07:58:19

I bloody loves this thread. t'aint often you can talk about pant snot in polite company!

OH has a plan... he wants us to get upduffed in Scotland in particular he wants us to sneak off and shag in a state room on Britannia so we can name our baby Britanniagrin

Suppose it's better than getting up the pole round the back of KFC!

Minion Tue 12-Nov-13 08:06:53

Yeah but at KFC there's always chicken to be had for afters... hates KFC but luffs the batter
Welcome new folk!

EssiesInvisibleLlama Tue 12-Nov-13 11:19:42

Hi newbies! Welcome, welcome.

Bear, deffo allowed a teensy daydream every now and then. I tell myself off for imagining too, as I feel I ought to really be preparing for the worst, but thats not going to help anyone. I'm not sure how much PMA actually helps, I want to slap the people who say 'just relax, it'll happen', but keeping the dream alive certainly makes my head a nicer place to be trapped. grin Well done for ditching the miz relly. Sounds like you are better off without.

Ooohh do I've read the article now. What a total complete and utter cretin! Hilarious. I pity any poor woman who ends up shackled to him, he sounds like he has a superb sense of humour. hopes he's actually got addicted to us and is reading now

So I reckon I iced yesterday and we didn't manage to dtd cos of the flaming tennis. I told DH I was GOING TO BED at about 9.45 (I know, feeble, but I was so tired!), he couldn't tear his eyes away from Rafael and his OCD and said he'd see me in bed. Oh well, have to hope the weekends activities will do the job.

Someone at work asked me if I was up the duff yesterday cos I looked tired. FFS! I am just frigging tired! Honestly!

Nessalina Tue 12-Nov-13 14:41:05

Men are completely immune to subtle "I'm going to bed now..." hints, or at least my DH is!! Useless!!

Nessalina Tue 12-Nov-13 14:41:43

I'm about to tackle an IKEA flat pack desk. Wish me luck!! hmm

FairyJen Tue 12-Nov-13 14:47:56

Ooo ness I love a bit of flat pack! Ikea stuff is my idea of heaven!

Waggamamma Tue 12-Nov-13 15:14:00

I tried but I couldn't keep away!

I have a sneaking suspicion by boss is preggers. My real boss is on mat leave. Hmm...

Hello newbies. I was on the last few freds but tried to give up the unhealthy habbit of stalking ttc forums.

Ttc #2 since Feb, miscarried in June, on cycle 5 since then.

thelentil Tue 12-Nov-13 17:23:45

Hey Wagga I haven't told boss about plans, have a feeling it won't go down well, didn't take any time off for MCs, managed to not blub in front of colleagues so that was a bonus

What's the norm?

cookielove Tue 12-Nov-13 18:46:10

I did a test last night as I am still a bit messed up with regards to when I am due af. I was feeling sick and had sore boobs. Any way it was a bfn. Took another look this morning and there is a clear blue line but very thin. I think I'm not and its just a dodgy test. Will post a picture on profile!

fifi669 Tue 12-Nov-13 19:02:59

Both tests on your profile have a line in each window.....

DulcetMoans Tue 12-Nov-13 19:42:34

Tried zooming in cookie but not sure what I can see. With those ones it needs to be a cross in the second window, right?

What you building nessa??

BecauseIsaidS0 Tue 12-Nov-13 19:46:42

My cheapie Amazon sticks haven't arrived!!! I can't POAS!

Ah well, I was aiming not to until Sunday anyway. I have absolutely no symptoms and acupuncturist thinks I'm not this month, so I have been moderately enjoying half a wine with dinner.

ZingWantsGin Tue 12-Nov-13 20:13:16

everything's crossed for you, it's got to work out!

1974 I like your plan. Britannia is actually quite cool!


you're back! good. (hugs Wagga)

cookielove Tue 12-Nov-13 20:50:19

Yup meant to be a x but you can't see it in the photo. You can see it on the photo on real life or infact if you just look at the test..

Wagga glad your back smile mmmmmm I'm going to wagas tomorrow! !

Nessalina Tue 12-Nov-13 20:55:45

Name: Nessalina
DCs: None
TTC since: March '13 (got upduffed on cycle 4, but sadly had to TFMR at week 15, just getting back on the JSing wagon!)

Name: lil1ady
Dcs: None
TTC since: November 12, exactly a year ago today to be exact

Name: dulcetmoans
Kids: none
TTC since: March 2012 with slight gap. Now 15 cycles in total

Name: Sausagesaurus
DCs: None
TTC Since: this is my 1st cycle so November 2013

Name: juniper
DCs: none
TTC since: August 2011 with CMP Jan 12

Name: Gnomiegrace
DCs: none
TTC since: May 13, 5 cycles

Name: ZingWantsGin (added by Ness!)
DCs: Two?
TTC since: August-ish? Just got her BFP, and is hopefully continuing to lurk!

No kids
TTC since Aug 12, MCs Oct 12 and May 13

Name: Furryscoob
Kids: none
TTC since: July 2013

Name: Bearfacedchic
Children: zilcho
Ttc since: August 2011 making it now 27 cycles. Yawn. Being referred for IVF. Get those test tubes and Bunsen burners out!

Name 1974Rach (Rachael)
No Kids (yet)
TTC since 09/11/2013

Name: quarksinapeartickle
No kids, 1 mc in Oct
Ttc since Nov 2012 (gulp....a whole year)

Name :Minion
Kids: none ( not through lack of trying)
TTC: yes but getting over it quickly. Cycle 11... DE.PRESS.ING!

Name: Cookielove
kids: None
TTC: Jan 2013 (miscarried in sept 13)

Name: Redshoes56
DCs: Not yet!
TTC Since: Um....yeah, it's been awhile. Been "Just Shagging" here since Sept. 12

Name: fifi669
Kids: DS 05/12/10
TTC: April 2013, BFP October 2013.... Hanging around til it seems real.....

Name: Essie
DC: nope
TTC: Since Dec 2013 <-- do you mean 2012?! grin

Name: Waggamamma
DC: 1
Ttc #2 since Feb, miscarried in June, on cycle 5 since then.

Nessalina Tue 12-Nov-13 21:03:30

Right cookie, I've looked at your pics on phone and on PC and I can't see a line, but then resolution isn't great, so if you can see it in RL, that's the important thing!! Are you not sure when your AF is due? I doubt it's a dodgy test, but could be an evap line...
I'd leave it 48hrs (if you can!) and try a Clearblue digi with FMU. All fingers and toes crossed for you!! smile
I built an IKEA desk which I'm going to use as a dressing table in my bedroom Dulcet - I've popped a photo on my profile!

Nessalina Tue 12-Nov-13 21:04:20

Hurrah for Wagga being back! [grin'] Join us back on the obsessed side wink x

Nessalina Tue 12-Nov-13 21:04:32


1974rach Tue 12-Nov-13 21:29:23

does one need to shave ones legs before donning ones cape of shagtasticness? I just cba to shave AND shag grin grin

DulcetMoans Tue 12-Nov-13 21:39:52

Not in the winter rach. We wear capes but we aren't actual superheroes! He can deal with the fuzz!

Fingers crossed for you it is cookie. It doesn't matter if we can see it. It's you that needs convincing! How early have you tested??

juniper81 Tue 12-Nov-13 21:47:36

thelentil you didn't take any time off work for mcs? I think that's pretty unusual. I hope you don't mind me saying I'm sorry you went through that, it must have been so hard. sad

Day 23 and two BFNs down here. I know it's too early to test but I sort of feel like if I am pg it should be +ive from the very moment! Ha. Idiot. Not getting any symptoms or anything so it's not looking good to far, though up to ten days to even be late!

Good luck cookie when will you test again?

Waggamamma Tue 12-Nov-13 21:57:28

the lentil I took five weeks off for my mc. There were some other complications, I was physically fine after a week although bled for 5 weeks but emotionally a total wreck (I still am). My boss was also 8 months pregnant so made going back more difficult. You're a strong person for taking anytime off. thanks

Redshoes56 Tue 12-Nov-13 21:58:29

rach the fuzz will add some extra oomph to the cape ensemble smile

cookie hoping it's not a false alarm! Keep us posted!

nessa nice work on the build. IKEA furniture can be maddening. We were missing two (important) screws for our futon. Thankfully, they mailed them to us - from Sweden! - and we got the damn thing together without the aid of marriage counseling.

Just back from the general doc; got my medical clearance! One step closer. My RE had to cancel our phone consult yesterday since she got called into emergency surgery (of course my immediate thought is, what is emergency surgery in this field? Did someone's uterus fall out? What is going to happen to meeeeeeee?!). That's rescheduled for next week now.

My doctor was all smiles, he seemed genuinely excited and said with a wink, "You know this is going to work, right?" Made me feel good.

Redshoes56 Tue 12-Nov-13 21:59:38

Wow lentil I don't know if I could have gone through that without taking time off work. You are indeed a tough woman.

Waggamamma Tue 12-Nov-13 21:59:46

And if my dp didn't put up with fuzz he'd get sex once a month if he's lucky. I love smooth legs but I just can't find the time! blush

Bearfacedchic Tue 12-Nov-13 23:23:41

All about the fuzz here. I am a bearafter all. (It never gets boring using that!)

Hi*Wagga*- good to see you!

Cookie- hoping that there line us a line is a line is a line for you. X

Thank you for giving me permission to daydream smile

ZingWantsGin Tue 12-Nov-13 23:26:54


just saw updated roll call - bunsen burners are not a good idea.grin

Nessalina Wed 13-Nov-13 00:13:21

I'm sure I just posted and it's vanished! I was saying that fuzz is reasonable in the Ness household so long as DH isn't clean shaven either!
Great news about doctors visit Red, glad you've got one with a bit of personality!! grin
I'm amazed you took no time off work lentil shock I've had a month off all told with our saga, I've been no good for anything!

GnomieGrace Wed 13-Nov-13 07:14:09

Hey ladies, been lurking a lot recently, so over the past 2 weeks I have been knackered in bed by 9 each night including weekends and asleep by 10, my appetite has massively increased coupled with a little queasiness and several bouts of extreme lightheadedness. So went to Docs yesterday, she said"i think you're pregnant" but with 3 BFN's she asked me to test there and then. Well could I Pee? Could I eck! 20 mins I tried to pee for, the receptionist found it hilarious, so did I! Was sent home with a test and told to let her know tmw what results are, well when i finally did pee, and by this time had drink a litre of water, BFN again. One thing that's really odd is that for the last 10 yrs my Blood pressure has always been low 112/45 yesterday it was 141/78 which is classed as normal but a big jump for me. So no BFP, loads of symptoms, and an empty pee pot later, no answers. Stay tuned for the next instalment tmw. Ps i have an Ikea TV stand that has lasted 8 yrs and 3 house moves!

1974rach Wed 13-Nov-13 07:53:30

gnomie looking forward to the next installment. And the next time we buy ikea stuff please will you come and put it together for us?grin

Minion Wed 13-Nov-13 08:05:12

gnomie fingers crossed!
cookie fingers crossed!
And me, legs crossed. I'm bored of ttcing. It's finally hit me.
What's especially vile is the way Mr Minion said I was becoming obsessed as I wanted to try OPKs just to make sure I could ovulate. Then when talking about a house we are viewing in a village, this Saturday, he says 'and it's close to good schools'... Yeah so what? You kinda have to have a rugrat to put in it first.
I'm not even kidding how ragey I was.
So, one is folding away her cape. It's in a vacuum bag so it's fresh for when I can be arsed to whip it out again. I'm now jsing just for the hell of it.
I'll keep in touch though, if that's ok?

FairyJen Wed 13-Nov-13 09:31:46

Fingers crossed for everyone! Got down to business last night and woke this morning o an email for job interview covering someone on maternity. It's going to be just my luck isn't it!?

FurryScoob Wed 13-Nov-13 10:05:31

Fingers crossed for the first thread BFP's

DP is a taxi driver, yesturday he picked up a midwife & spent the whole journey asking the poor woman about TTC & labour. He came home last night very pleased with all the new stuff he'd learnt nothing I didn't already know but nice to know he really is interested! smile

thelentil Wed 13-Nov-13 11:07:16

Hmmm, figured it would be best, don't think TTC would go down well with bosses, and if it never happens I would have harmed my job prospects for nothing. If BFP does happen, I plan to blame pies for as long as possible, after 2 MCs I tend to assume it won't last

ERPC/TMFRs were done at weekends and docs/scans early mornings so didn't really need to do fake excuses

Nessalina Wed 13-Nov-13 11:24:18

That's intriguing Gnomie! I have heard about that sort of thing happening - they can do a preg test with blood I think if the pee test doesn't work. Apparently some ladies just don't produce enough HCG to trigger a HPT... I hope that's the case for you anyway!!
Ugh, it sucks doesn't it Minion. Sounds like JSing for fun might give you a bit of a break... Men have such double standards, mine will look all google-eyed at babies, then on nights when it's vital we get our capes on, he'll be tired all of a sudden... Well, that was when we were trying last time. I think now he's had a taste of it he'll be more keen to get back where we were!

juniper81 Wed 13-Nov-13 17:28:42

Best of luck gnomie!

thelentil sorry you work in such am unsupportive place. I had a bad reaction to the GA but was so all over the shop after the CMP. I had 3 weeks off then four weeks phased return. My manager at the time is one of my best friends though!

Got a job interview next week, v pleased abt it but bit weird as in twot and feels strange to half want a bfn in case they want me! All in good time I guess.

1974rach Wed 13-Nov-13 18:20:33

Minion I understand your rage, sometimes our dp's have gobs which they open before they switch their brains on (us ladies never do that coz we are fab-u-lous).

sending you a jaffa cake and a friendly punch on the arm

mwah x

Nessalina Wed 13-Nov-13 19:16:41

Best possible show of sympathy:
a jaffa cake and a friendly punch on the arm
Love it! Really made me giggle & I'm not sure why grin
I have done nothing useful whatsoever around the house today, but I have bought all of DHs birthday & Xmas presents online - go me!

1974rach Wed 13-Nov-13 20:37:59

lol @ nessa my work mates and I are all about jaffa cakes and friendly arm punches grin . We find that an ill-timed hug can create a mascara malfunction!

NeuroticSweetTalk Wed 13-Nov-13 21:45:52

Hi all I'm back again after a sabbatical... Last month was really not our month. Congratulations to the BFPs I've missed and fingers crossed for the rest of you smile

Anywhoo, I'm back mainly because I have some random questions and since this thread is the chattiest I figured here would be a good place to stay since I don't hold out much hope that doctor Google will help any. About the pant snot (lol) that means fertile right? And it's stretchy and see through? As much as I felt really weird for twisting up toilet paper and sticking it in the used paper to see if it was stretchy it's the first time in my life I've seen pant snot for real (once I knew what it was and what it means) And also following the finding of the pant snot I proceeded to jump the DP and not long after I had almost crippling pains in my right side when I stood up... It felt like my appendix was bursting all over again. Any experience with anything like this? smile

Also have I missed roll call again? If not:

Name: NeuroticSweetTalk
Kids: Aside from a DP that sometimes acts like a 3 year old, no babies as of yet.
TTC: This is cycle 3 of properly trying (September 2013)


NeuroticSweetTalk Wed 13-Nov-13 21:47:41

Oh and sorry about TMI and the long windedness smile

cookielove Wed 13-Nov-13 21:47:42

Oh no minion, men are rubbish sometimes all the bloody time

I had a week booked off work when I found out on the Tuesday I had mc. Went back just under 2 weeks later, my boss was good and gave me three days holiday back as they thought I probably had a rather shit time off.

Those of you who have had a mc did you get the genetic testing and if yes how long did it take to get the result?

Did another test this am, and there is another faint line, but pretty sure it's just a dodgy test cause it takes a while for the line to appear! And its very faint.

DulcetMoans Wed 13-Nov-13 21:56:54

Evening all! Jaffa cakes on the way round I hope? You can keep the punches though, been bustled about enough today in the big smoke.

AF due tomorrow but by estimated ov time (if I even ov!) I think Friday is more likely. At least I am getting towards knowing one way or the other, feels like a long month.

Good luck with the job interview juniper! Do you want it?

Nessalina Wed 13-Nov-13 23:29:48

Cookie, if the line appears within 10mins it doesn't matter how long the line takes to appear, that's still a positive! You can't just be having a run of 'dodgy' tests! grin

Nessalina Wed 13-Nov-13 23:49:56

Name: Nessalina
DCs: None
TTC since: March '13 (got upduffed on cycle 4, but sadly had to TFMR at week 15, just getting back on the JSing wagon!)

Name: lil1ady
Dcs: None
TTC since: November 12, exactly a year ago today to be exact

Name: dulcetmoans
Kids: none
TTC since: March 2012 with slight gap. Now 15 cycles in total

Name: Sausagesaurus
DCs: None
TTC Since: this is my 1st cycle so November 2013

Name: juniper
DCs: none
TTC since: August 2011 with CMP Jan 12

Name: Gnomiegrace
DCs: none
TTC since: May 13, 5 cycles

Name: ZingWantsGin (added by Ness!)
DCs: Two?
TTC since: August-ish? Just got her BFP, and is hopefully continuing to lurk!

No kids
TTC since Aug 12, MCs Oct 12 and May 13

Name: Furryscoob
Kids: none
TTC since: July 2013

Name: Bearfacedchic
Children: zilcho
Ttc since: August 2011 making it now 27 cycles. Yawn. Being referred for IVF. Get those test tubes and Bunsen burners out!

Name 1974Rach (Rachael)
No Kids (yet)
TTC since 09/11/2013

Name: quarksinapeartickle
No kids, 1 mc in Oct
Ttc since Nov 2012 (gulp....a whole year)

Name :Minion
Kids: none ( not through lack of trying)
TTC: yes but getting over it quickly. Cycle 11... DE.PRESS.ING!

Name: Cookielove
kids: None
TTC: Jan 2013 (miscarried in sept 13)

Name: Redshoes56
DCs: Not yet!
TTC Since: Um....yeah, it's been awhile. Been "Just Shagging" here since Sept. 12

Name: fifi669
Kids: DS 05/12/10
TTC: April 2013, BFP October 2013.... Hanging around til it seems real.....

Name: Essie
DC: nope
TTC: Since Dec 2013 <-- do you mean 2012?! grin

Name: Waggamamma
DC: 1
Ttc #2 since Feb, miscarried in June, on cycle 5 since then.

Name: NeuroticSweetTalk
Kids: Aside from a DP who sometimes acts like a 3 year old, no babies as of yet.
TTC: This is cycle 3 of properly trying (September 2013)

Minion Thu 14-Nov-13 07:50:40

And now he wants to JS again!
And it's 'the week' (he knows this), bloody roller coasting rip taker.
Think he just hates talking about it. Actions speak louder than words eh?
Sometimes I wish lesbians could procreate.
Enjoying the jaffas here kid!
TA muchly xxxx

juniper81 Thu 14-Nov-13 10:02:15

Thanks dulcet. It's all a bit of a mind melt. I would like to move on but if I am pg I can't leave here as will have no employment rights and would like mat pay and so on. But imagine getting a BFP, turning it down and then it's a chemical or something shock so just waiting to see how it goes and trying not to over think it. I can test on Sunday.

Nessalina Thu 14-Nov-13 12:05:23

I'm pretty sure that as long as you've been in a job 6 months you qualify for at least Statutory mat pay juniper, so if this was a BFP then you'd be in the new job at least 7 months probably 8! I'd go for the new job if it's one you want smile Biology is fickle, and as you say, if the BFP turned back into a BFN you'd be gutted to have missed out on the job!

1974rach Thu 14-Nov-13 15:40:59

AF has arrived. This is the post pill one so not a real one iykwim.

I reckon this will be the last time I'm pleased to see the old witch. Pass me a jaffa cake...

juniper81 Thu 14-Nov-13 17:14:30

passes Rach one of those LONG boxes of jaffa cakes.

Thanks for your thoughts on my situation, it was stressing me out so much, but got to remember to take it one step at a time and not borrow trouble. Time is passing so slowly!

fifi669 Thu 14-Nov-13 19:04:21

juniper the rules are that you basically need to have been working there when you get pregnant. (Midwives will fiddle your matb1 form a little either way so you qualify).

If you don't qualify for SMP, you'll more than likely qualify for maternity allowance which is at the same rate. MA isn't taxable either, (SMP is). Maternity leave isn't dependant on how long you've worked there so is open to everyone.

1974rach Thu 14-Nov-13 21:27:23

Not sure if the same rules apply every where but my employer states that to benefit from their occupational mat pay you have to have been employed by them for 29 weeks by the 11th week before your edd. SMP or MA is paid at the same rate so you get either one of them depending on your circumstances.

Redshoes56 Thu 14-Nov-13 21:58:26

juniper I agree with the others -- go for the job you want, and the baby, with full gusto! Interesting to hear about the mat leave laws in the UK (not sure what they are in the States; I've been with my company for 10 years, so I'm as in the clear as you possibly can be, ha). I just finished reading "Lean In," written by one of the big (female) wigs at Facebook; she talks about those nine months of pregnancy as being a key time to really lean into your career, despite the fact that many women tend to step back -- turn down big projects and even promotions -- because they have a mindset of, "Oh, I'm going to be out soon for a bit soon anyway." Her opinion is, get as far ahead as you can now, so that when you do come back, you aren't behind the duration of your mat leave PLUS the nine months before it. That was a perspective I hadn't really thought about and it makes sense. However, I am already thinking about who to position on my team to handle things while I'm could be soon! Had my annual gyno visit today, and, like my general doc, was very optimistic. She basically said, "See you in February or March!" I want to shush them all and keep them from jinxing me!

Officially down 17 pounds today.

cookie -- are you seriously doubting the tests, or just in denial? Sounds like a BFP to (uneducated) me!

DulcetMoans Thu 14-Nov-13 22:19:27

Agree with the others juniper, go for it all and make the best decisions for you!

fifi I know midwives can fiddle the forms but a lady in my office was 10 days out of getting organisation may pay and midwife refused to change it! She only got statutory then. Meanie!

On a similar theme, I was offered a promotion today. Complete surprise and only had the day to think about it. I thought about the baby plans we have that the clearly dont know about but then thought we have to do what's right for us. If I was pregnant this month I would still have 8 months to prove myself and then if go on mat leave with more money!!

Nessalina Thu 14-Nov-13 22:23:22

Congrats Dulcet! grin So have you decided to take it then!
And congrats on the 17 pounds Red!! When did you start tracking? That's loads! grin

QuarksInAPearTickle Thu 14-Nov-13 22:34:18

Congrats on the offer dulcet are you going for it?

Red fab job on the weight loss! Can I have your secret please?

cookie that's an awful lot of positives. I know you don't want to build up hope but could it just be that it is a BFP? grin

So I am 8dpo, roughly 6 days to ertd and my list of symptoms so far are: uber sore breadsticks, sore lower back, funny taste in my mouth, random smells making me boke, crying at everything, tired, oh so tired. Viroids I think I am in need of a major hooya and a tube of Pringles because I am sooooo hungry!

Redshoes56 Thu 14-Nov-13 22:36:15

Congratulations, dulcet! That's very exciting!

nessa, I started toward the end of August, after my initial consult. It's probably been about 12 weeks.

Redshoes56 Thu 14-Nov-13 22:38:10

Ha, quark, I think the secret was knowing they would deny me IVF if I didn't get under the BMI limit. Also cutting down significantly on carbs. I thought I'd miss them, but I feel really satisfied with what I've been eating (and still having treats once in awhile). Small hooya to you since you have a few days to go...--but interesting symptoms!--

Redshoes56 Thu 14-Nov-13 22:39:04

Strikethrough fail there!

Nessalina Thu 14-Nov-13 23:00:57

That's brilliant Red!! It does help having a motivation, but that's excellent, you can be well chuffed grin
Quark, that is indeed an impressive range of symptoms!! Sending you a much needed HOOYA!! but also crossing fingers coz that sounds very positive!!

DulcetMoans Fri 15-Nov-13 07:40:28

I think I am going to take it. I indicated I was going to but need to talk it through properly Monday.

ERTD due today so just tested and BFN so expect her anytime later today! Thought maybe Sod's law would work with the job and the clinic but looks like a no.

Those are some good symptoms quark but it's still really early so have a hooya! Patience!

17lb is fab red! Do you need to lose more for the treatment or was that enough to get you through?

1974rach Fri 15-Nov-13 07:53:27

ooh Quark! got everything crossed and sending you a great wodge of patience grin

thelentil Fri 15-Nov-13 08:05:44

Quark you really are in the TWOT! I've had emo moments and dragging fatigue but putting it down to lack of sleep. The only truly reliable symptom for me is, erm, slow moving digestion, (TMI - apologies) going from daily to weekly, hasn't happened... errr hang on, did I go yesterday?... Can't remember... Is forgetfulness a symptom? hmm

Waggamamma Fri 15-Nov-13 10:25:35

some promising symptoms on the fred!

I turned down the opportunity to do my bosses mat cover due to also being pregnant. I miscarried two weeks later, a big regret, I should have just done it pregnant or not.

I had docs this morning to followup from my scan. She suspects endometriosis. does anyone know anything about this? I'm scared. only way to diagonosr would be a camera through the belly button and no cure but symptoms can be controlled with pill/coil. It can cause infertility sad . I've to go back in new year for gynea referall.

fifi669 Fri 15-Nov-13 10:39:53

My stepmum has endometriosis and twins smile its not the end of baby making, might mean waiting a bit longer

juniper81 Fri 15-Nov-13 12:36:03

Best of luck quark and congrats on the new job dulcet, I like the idea of some new jobs and BFPs on this thread!

Thanks red for your words of inspiration! Maybe it's just me but like has had so many disappointments lately I try to keep my dreams small, I'll stop doing that now!

Caved in and tested this morning (day 26) with an internet cheapie and it was bfn so bit disappointed but able to focus more on the interview. smile

juniper81 Fri 15-Nov-13 12:36:39

^ life has had disappointments. Must proof read on phone.

cookielove Fri 15-Nov-13 12:40:42

Hello all, just grabbing 5 minutes off my lunch break to talk tell you my news, not sure If I am pregnant as I really shouldn't have looked at the test that late, as in I thought negative and came back to them each time over 10 minutes later, so I am gonna hold off to testing again till next week and use a first response.

That's not my news though, I've managed to get a hold of someone regarding the results of my genetic testing following the miscarriage and the results aren't good, I will find out more extensive results this afternoon when she calls back, but essentially there was something genetically wrong with the baby and dh and are going to be pulled in for blood tests sad

Fingers crossed quark

Nessalina Fri 15-Nov-13 12:48:16

Oh bloody hell Cookie, that's a bit scary! Were they able to give you any more info over the phone or do you need to see someone? When do you go in for tests? Sorry, million questions, got everything crossed that this is nothing serious, I'm sure they have to follow up on been minor concerns, so it's not necessarily awful. Xx

Nessalina Fri 15-Nov-13 12:48:47

*even minor concerns

ZingWantsGin Fri 15-Nov-13 12:58:59


did they say why they needed blood tests?

when I had my MC the doctor there explained that most miscarriages happen due to genetic problems - as in the cell division & multiplication is so fast paced, that even the tiniest of chromosome imperfection/breakage effects the whole development to such a degree that it just doesn't work out.

in other words, if something goes wrong in the very early stages it can go horribly wrong extremely quickly.
and that is why most MCs happen by the 12-13 week mark.

when we had the nuchal translucency test at the 12 week scan with Yasmin (we named her) it was something like 95 centile - so pretty much as bad as it can get.
the normal number is something like up to 5 or 10 centile of whatever they are measuring and I think Down-syndrome is something like 20 centile. (I can't remember exactly, over 50 you have a big hig problem)

we didn't need any extra testing - maybe because we already had 4 healthy kids?

anyway, was just wondering and hope it will be helpful.

Nessalina Fri 15-Nov-13 14:22:09

From what I read after our baby had Turners diagnosed (and I read waaaay too much confused), there is a difference between chromosome disorders like Downs and Turners, and genetic disorders. Chromosome disorders are caused like you said Zing, it's a 'mistake' made when sperm meets egg, but it's random and not something that happens to one couple more than others, it's just the roll of a dice.
Genetic disorders are present in the genes of one or more of the parents, and so can be passed on to a baby in certain circumstances. I would assume that it's one of these disorders that sadly caused Cookies MC and because it was a genetic thing, testing her and her DP may be able to find out more about what it was and if it is preventable. It doesn't have to be awful though, it may be that the genetic issue they have only occurs say 1 in 1000 conceptions, they were just super unlucky this time. Like we were, but with our babies chromosomes sad Yasmin is a lovely name Zing smile

Waggamamma Fri 15-Nov-13 15:14:05

oh cookie how worrying for you. Try not to stress until you have more info though.

With my mc the tests results came back 'abnormal' (this is all I was told although I really pushed for more info) and that there was no evidence of pregnancy sad although clearly there was as we'd saw a sac on the scan twice. I got myself in a right tizz about it as I had to go back to hospital for bloods every two days for a few weeks until my hcg reached a low number. There are so many things it could be, ask plenty questions when you go to see them.

ZingWantsGin Fri 15-Nov-13 16:25:41


I'm sure you know it better as you have recently researched it, sorry for any confusion!

it was 5 years ago I gad had that MC- tbh I don't remember exactly what was said, just the going wrong very quickly bit - and that he was talking about chromosomes and genes...
not long after we were told baby had no heartbeat. sad

so again sorry for saying the wrong things.blush

Nessalina Fri 15-Nov-13 16:57:28

Don't be daft Zing, not the wrong thing at all smile I guess it's all just fresh in my mind, and I can be a bit of a fact machine sometimes! blush

cookielove Fri 15-Nov-13 17:12:07

Hello all, back again!

I've spoken to the midwife in more detail now and basically its a really really really rare complication and either I, Dh or both of us are carriers of the gene that has caused the deformity on the first chromosome or that we are just unlucky and have a rare complication, we are going for blood tests on Monday and then we will find out exactly where we stand a couple weeks after that. She did say that if we are both carriers then i won't be able to have a baby!!

We know it was a boy, which has given me some comfort and made this some what easier now i know.

Also she said not to ttc until we get the results <eek>

Nessalina Fri 15-Nov-13 17:18:04

Wow, sorry to hear that cookie sad 'really really really rare' is good though right? Unlikely that both of you are carriers? Hope you're ok and not stressing too much, really hope it turns out ok for you thanks

cookielove Fri 15-Nov-13 17:26:20

Yes in a way it is quite lucky it is so rare, a good chance it is just one of those things and it will be ok. Fingers crossed any way.

ZingWantsGin Fri 15-Nov-13 21:59:49


that's the reason why.
poor you. I won't tell you to not worry, coz I would, but I hope & pray that the blood test will show you that you can have children. fx for you.

when will you have the results?

cookielove Fri 15-Nov-13 22:16:00

They said a couple of weeks!

Nessalina Fri 15-Nov-13 23:27:04

Well we've all got our fingers crosses for you. A 'couple of weeks' is nicely vague when you must be dying to know confused

Nessalina Fri 15-Nov-13 23:29:00

Tomorrow is officially me & DHs 'allowed to get our cape on' day! Unfortunately the witch has yet to leave the building hmm Two weeks FFS!!! Never know owt like it.

thelentil Sat 16-Nov-13 09:00:08

DP still hasn't registered with doc to do SA, let alone do his SA. I asked him this morning and he's said something about my "sense of urgency"

Oh dear, if he was trying to push buttons he couldn't have done a better job than to imply I'm getting desperate

Is it ok to have cake for breakfast?

fifi669 Sat 16-Nov-13 09:43:37

Cake is a suitable meal substitute at any time of the day...

thelentil Sat 16-Nov-13 10:04:25

Excellent, it goes so well with my breakfast glass of wine wink

Nessalina Sat 16-Nov-13 10:05:38

Definitely. MIL & PIL are arriving in 30mins for a day of DIY around our house. Joy! Cake for me too please!!

DulcetMoans Sat 16-Nov-13 10:09:56

You're going to need cake and bottomless tea/coffee nessa if its a day of DIY.

I had to organise DH SA in the end lentil. He wasn't resisting or anything but in his mind it could wait and he is rubbish at organising stuff anyway. I just phoned them, found the available dates and took it from there.

I'm going to try and get DH to buy sofas today. Its been over a year I have been trying, wanted one for last Christmas! I see a day of fighting ahead!

DulcetMoans Sat 16-Nov-13 10:10:50

Sorry, didn't read far enough up. Cookie, what a shocker for you! Hope you get some answer soon and hopefully it was just a one of bad luck thing. The worrying never stops!

1974rach Sat 16-Nov-13 10:33:19

you are all welcome to come and hide at my house if PIL are on the way. you can help sort out all the cliff Richard 78's we collected from BIL's house last night


thelentil Sat 16-Nov-13 12:26:38

Oh my Nessa, I'd need more than cake to handle outlaw DIY efforts, I admire your patience

Dulcet, I think DP is the same, just doesn't see the urgency, I wish he wouldn't justify it by implying that I'm desperate and rushing, (it's been 10 days since he was given forms and a jar) I've bitten my tongue so often about the baby issue

Cookie, 2 weeks is a damn long time to wait, everything seems to take two weeks, it's forever!

cookielove Sat 16-Nov-13 14:52:59

2 weeks if I am lucky, to be fair I thought it was going to be months so a couple weeks isn't bad!

Had a good distraction today we've found a flat we love, although it is on the upper end of our budget!

Urgh not Pil, the worse kind of visitors grin

FurryScoob Sat 16-Nov-13 15:02:59

cookie fingers crossed the 2 weeks go fast & it's good news at the end, buying a flats a good way to speed up time!

Were off to London tomorrow for 4 days of intensive christmas shopping and cocktail fueled shagfest but DP is too distracted by football on the telly to pack anything, bloody men!

DulcetMoans Sat 16-Nov-13 16:09:19

Completely understand lentil. If it helps, probably took about 4 weeks for mine to make an appointment and then another 10 days from there. It was partly that he was really busy at work, I have to be fair to him, and he needed a day off to do it as drop offs were only 11-3pm. But I think he was party hoping for a BFP in that time to mean he wouldn't have to do it.

Good JSing plan there scoob! Hoped its well tied in the cycle too! Now just to avoid shopping arguments to ruin the mood, that would be my trouble anyway!

juniper81 Sat 16-Nov-13 18:23:18

Really sorry about your news cookielove. Not sure if chasing them up will help but I know with my problems I had to do quite a lot of phoning around to get results etc. Don't be afraid to nag if that helps you. And how exciting about a new place. smile

Starting to get nervous about the job interview now. Mainly because I think they are going to test me on some equipment that I use a lot but they've probably got a very modern version and I'm using a very very old one at the moment. I'll just have to hope for brief instructions if that happens!

1974rach Sat 16-Nov-13 18:52:44

juniper fingers crossed for you! when is your interview? I'm sure they'll give you some instructions won't they?

juniper81 Sat 16-Nov-13 19:17:09

Thanks rach, it's Tuesday afternoon. I think they might expect me to know what to do but I won't be shy about asking.

Bit down today as a family member has posted some "people without kids don't know anything" comedy thing on FB. It is quite funny but I'm so fed up of people in my family talking to me like this! (don't think it was directed at me and I am fighting the urge to comment with "nice" under it). I don't think this is the month - had a BFN this morning - so although that simplifies it all job wise it is disappointing none the less. Even my DP is getting stressed and starting to talk about SA, adoption...SIGH. Bad day, will go eat some cheese and cheer the f* up!

1974rach Sat 16-Nov-13 19:44:36

juniper I do understand I'm the only one of all my cousin's not to have a dc or be expecting a dc. It sometimes makes me feel like I'm not in the "gang" and as a consequence I feel left out.

Having said that there are days when something is said (particulary about children or having them) which hits a nerve and it's all I can do not to scream that it's not for want of trying angry

Your time will come.

Now do I need to give you a friendly punch on the arm and a jaffa cake or will you be okay with wine? grin

1974rach Sat 16-Nov-13 19:45:40

Doh! juniper am sorry about bfn. big hugs. no punches xxxxx

Nessalina Sat 16-Nov-13 23:45:03

Evening viroids! I survived the PIL invasion! grin To be fair, they are fab, FIL put up two lots of blinds, a curtain rail, a mirror, and started to fix the kick boards in the kitchen, so I can't complain really! And they didn't mention the baby once which I really appreciated. Sympathy makes me a bit weepy sometimes!
Exciting to have a new flat on the horizon Cookie - renting or buying?
Jealous of trip to London Scoob been meaning to go for ages to see pals down there, just never seem to get the time! What are you up to?
Good lunch with the interview Juniper, hope they don't fox you with tricksy equipment blush
I'm lucky so far that I'm not the 'odd one out' in my family, there's no babies yet, but my (younger) cousin is due her firstborn in December, so that's going to be tricky. My family all know what's gone on with us lately, so even my massively insensitive aunt should be able to avoid the 'when's it your turn then' jibes confused

MrsW2909 Sun 17-Nov-13 21:13:45

Hi ladies, can I join ur thread? Made me giggle so much reading the introductory thread I just had to keep on reading!

MrsW2909 Sun 17-Nov-13 21:15:09

If I remember correctly:

Name : mrs w
Children: 2
Ttc since: next week when my coil is removed so a total newby!

Nessalina Sun 17-Nov-13 22:42:54

Welcome Mrs W! Feel free to join in. Normally a bit busier round here, not quite sure where everyone's popped off to! ��

Nessalina Sun 17-Nov-13 22:43:35

Name: Nessalina
DCs: None
TTC since: March '13 (got upduffed on cycle 4, but sadly had to TFMR at week 15, just getting back on the JSing wagon!)

Name: lil1ady
Dcs: None
TTC since: November 12, exactly a year ago today to be exact

Name: dulcetmoans
Kids: none
TTC since: March 2012 with slight gap. Now 15 cycles in total

Name: Sausagesaurus
DCs: None
TTC Since: this is my 1st cycle so November 2013

Name: juniper
DCs: none
TTC since: August 2011 with CMP Jan 12

Name: Gnomiegrace
DCs: none
TTC since: May 13, 5 cycles

Name: ZingWantsGin (added by Ness!)
DCs: Two?
TTC since: August-ish? Just got her BFP, and is hopefully continuing to lurk!

No kids
TTC since Aug 12, MCs Oct 12 and May 13

Name: Furryscoob
Kids: none
TTC since: July 2013

Name: Bearfacedchic
Children: zilcho
Ttc since: August 2011 making it now 27 cycles. Yawn. Being referred for IVF. Get those test tubes and Bunsen burners out!

Name 1974Rach (Rachael)
No Kids (yet)
TTC since 09/11/2013

Name: quarksinapeartickle
No kids, 1 mc in Oct
Ttc since Nov 2012 (gulp....a whole year)

Name :Minion
Kids: none ( not through lack of trying)
TTC: yes but getting over it quickly. Cycle 11... DE.PRESS.ING!

Name: Cookielove
kids: None
TTC: Jan 2013 (miscarried in sept 13)

Name: Redshoes56
DCs: Not yet!
TTC Since: Um....yeah, it's been awhile. Been "Just Shagging" here since Sept. 12

Name: fifi669
Kids: DS 05/12/10
TTC: April 2013, BFP October 2013.... Hanging around til it seems real.....

Name: Essie
DC: nope
TTC: Since Dec 2013 <-- do you mean 2012?! grin

Name: Waggamamma
DC: 1
Ttc #2 since Feb, miscarried in June, on cycle 5 since then.

Name : mrs w
Children: 2
Ttc since: next week when my coil is removed so a total newby!

Nessalina Sun 17-Nov-13 22:44:49

So that's a bit exciting and all brand new Mrs W! Can things get going straight after coil is out, or do you have to wait at all? smile

MrsW2909 Mon 18-Nov-13 09:42:22

Aparently as soon as the coil is out u can get pregnant which is exciting although im not expecting anything for a few months just to stop the dissapointment. If uv had sex in the 5 days previous to it coming out u can conceive that day if it falls on the right time.
My partner is begging me every day to have it taken out ( i already have 2 children from a previous rship) as i have been trying to wait until my youngest starts school which she does next september so iv booked the coil out and its a bit of a suprise as he doesnt know yet. Cant wait to see his reaction when i finally get to tell him :-)

QuarksInAPearTickle Mon 18-Nov-13 10:47:00

Hellooo MrsW, welcome!

Hope everyone is ok this morning????

I had more promising symptoms over the weekend, tired, boobs felt like they were on fire, dog wouldn't leave me alone, nausea and shock horror my gin tasted horrible yesterday!

But alas today I think I just spotted some spotting!

Off to the pity hot tub for me, I have apple cake if anyone wants to join! sad

MrsW2909 Mon 18-Nov-13 11:00:19

Morning Quarks :-)

Havent experienced it yet but it must be so gutting/frustrating when AF arrives, think im slowly gonna turn into a crazy woman over the next 6 months ha.

I have a day off today with my DD2, she has spots appeared on her legs last night and doc said theyr either hives which isnt contagious or chicken pox which is... And shes in nursery for the rest of the week which could turn into a nightmare if they send her home as i have zero holiday to take now. The joys of children and work!

Minion Mon 18-Nov-13 15:22:15

On no quark, hopefully it's implantation spotting!
Hi mrsw welcome welcome! Good luck JSing.

Well today we've had an offer accepted on a house we love in a fabulous area so well chuffed! I'm very excited. It has apple and pear trees in the garden.. Heavenly.
Managed to bump uglies a bit but not applying pressure so I'll continue till ERTD shows up now...x

Waggamamma Mon 18-Nov-13 16:03:41

congratulations on the house minion hopefully you can fill it with babies too grin .

I'm at work, loads to do but really bored so mumsnetting of course. I still suspect my boss is pregnant bitch. Just about to enter the fertile week so better get my cape on.

We're off to a wedding this weekend. I've never been to a wedding except my aunts when I was 5. So looking forward to that, my plan is to drink lots of wine and seduce dp wink . My friend who has two beautiful children less than two years apart said at the weekend 'vodka gets you pregnant honestly it worked for me twice'....angry so that's where we're going wrong ladies obviosly not drinking enough vodka. What a stupid thing to say she knows I lost a baby this year.

FurryScoob Mon 18-Nov-13 17:13:30

Hello mrsw nice to meet you

minion good luck with the house buying

wagga I love vodka but so far it's not got me a BFP but sod it I'll keep drinking if it's gonna help grin

Tomorrow is our 5 year anniversary, I was hoping to surprise DP with a BFP but AF messed up my plans last week. On our first date we spent a day together and then DP left me to go & watch an England match, tomorrow England are playing again but this time he's missing the footy to take me to see Dirty Dancing while we're in London. smile

juniper81 Mon 18-Nov-13 20:27:33

hello, much finger and toe crossing it's implantation quark.
Good luck for the house minion sounds lovely and maybe this is the month?
Go go cape action wagga. I stopped drinking for TTC but developed my taste for it again lately. I'll stop feeling so bad about it if it has such magical properties. What a very well kept secret!
Have a lovely anniversary furry, Dirty Dancing will be awesome. We had our seven year anniversary this year and saw Matilda which was a lot of fun.

Another BFN this morning. Boo! Not sure if I said upthread but I was trying the "testing a lot towards AF date" and I've been getting lots of BFNs so I guess just waiting for ERTD to show up. I've found doing the testing has made it a lot easier and I've not been symptom spotting or anything like that. I am feeling disappointed etc but it's not going to be such a shock to the system as it usually is! So for me, this approach has worked.

juniper81 Mon 18-Nov-13 21:53:15

Oh how rude of me, hello and welcome Mrsw smile

Nessalina Tue 19-Nov-13 09:10:20

Morning all smile Survived my first day back at work yesterday, everyone was lovely and no one said anything stupid or insensitive, so that was good!! Day off today (woo!) so nice gentle start... As of Weds I'm working every day til the following Saturday with only Sunday off though shock
Juniper, I found that. I couldn't resist testing anyway, so I was so pleased when I bought the bumper pack of internet cheapies that I could go POAS crazy and not feel guilty that I was wasting £5 a time blush
Minion - great news on the house! grin How fantastic to have found 'the one', you've been looking for a fair while haven't you?
Any developments Quark? Tide or no tide? Fx no tide wink

Minion Tue 19-Nov-13 12:30:43

nessa just about a year now yep so hopefully this will be it! So glad your first day went well and there were no feet in mouth moments from colleagues! You're stronger than you know kid x

MrsW1131 Tue 19-Nov-13 13:36:49

where did you buy your tests from nessalina? i was thinking of bulk buying online too but wasnt sure where to get the best deal!

MrsW1131 Tue 19-Nov-13 13:38:19

oh and hi Juniper :-)

Glad your first day back went ok Nessalina..

Nyssalina Tue 19-Nov-13 14:38:13

checks back over the considerable volume of Amazon purchases made since March

Aha! I bought these pee sticks which worked fabulously, got my BFP on 'em no problem, and at 18p a go, no guilt at all!

Incidentally, I certainly didn't also purchase any of these contraband items... wink

MrsW0931 Tue 19-Nov-13 14:53:10

Thanks :-) iv just purchased a 20 pack...even tho my coil isnt due out for another week, got to get prepared! ha.

I think im going to be too scared to use ovulation sticks incase my body just never ovulates! - unliklely but im too worried something will go wrong probably due to my hypocondriac husband who is convinced he cant conceive already (hes a 25 yr old healthy male) and we havent even started trying yet!

MrsW0931 Tue 19-Nov-13 14:54:22


I found these which worked out even cheaper...didnt know pregnancy tests could be found so cheap!

Nyssalina Tue 19-Nov-13 15:40:29

Awesome! grin

juniper81 Tue 19-Nov-13 16:05:53

If anyone does want any contraband please pm me, I've got 90 odd of those which I'll never use as I now definitely do not have Ultimate Contraband (CBFM). Please don't excommunicate me though!

Just had interview. Not sure what I think about the job and not sure what I think about them. The male manager was quite hot though. Oh, and ertd showed up for the occasion. What a day!

MrsW0931 Tue 19-Nov-13 16:20:36

sorry for being dumb but what are contraband?

And what was the job for?

Nyssalina Tue 19-Nov-13 19:25:03

Contraband are all science-type methods of assisting conception, which obviously as JSers we wouldn't DREAM of using. Ahem. Most common infractions against this rule occurs with the use of OPKs (ovulation prediction kits?) which are pee stick that tell you when you're about to ovulate.

1974rach Tue 19-Nov-13 19:43:00

Oooh naughty contraband. Haven't bought any ....yet....

Am I allowed to just try opk's once just to see? Promise I won't keep doing naughty contraband things.grin

Nyssalina Tue 19-Nov-13 20:45:31

That's between you and your conscience Rach... wink

juniper81 Tue 19-Nov-13 20:55:57

Don't buy! I'll send you some. I have NINETY. Please, save my cupboards. ;) PM me if you're interested. I couldn't get on with them as you have to hold your wee for ages and that is not ever going to happen.

Glad work was ok Nyssa/Nessa. So horrible when you're having to brace for awful comments but yay for not getting any.

Just had a text from a friend who's "desperate for a catch up with me. We all know what that means. Why can't they just email?!

Redshoes56 Tue 19-Nov-13 21:30:05

Hi viroids, I am so behind at work, so this will be a quick pop-in!

cookie I am so bummed to hear your latest. I do hope you get answers fast and that the problem is not insurmountable. Sometimes the worst case scenario is offered up too freely, like my "shadow" on my x-ray they had me convinced was a uterine defect in need of surgery. Hang in there thanks

Welcome, MrsW! Happy anniversary, furry! Glad that you went for the interview, juniper .... are you going to take the gig if offered?

I officially got the green light from the doctor after weigh-in yesterday that I can move forward with an IVF cycle; injections start NEXT WEEK. Ahhhh!

cookielove Tue 19-Nov-13 21:58:27

Hello all, I've been a bit awol last few days. Not pregnant it was dodgy tests, but its good cause the midwife says we shouldn't ttc until we get results from blood tests which they took on Monday and I have a whopper of a bruise. Other news we put in an offer for the lovely flat which got turned down (which we thought would happen) and we've just upped it by 5 grand shock

minion your buying tooo details ???

red so exciting! So first you hace injections and then what?

Juniper you have 90 what?

1974 and Mrs are you both newbies? If yes hello smile if no please just ignore me blush

nessa glad getting back to work was smoooooth for you!

fifi669 Tue 19-Nov-13 22:18:09

Oh red what's the next step after injections?

DulcetMoans Tue 19-Nov-13 22:39:10

Evening all! Been AWOL too but been reading. Work just getting in the way if fully participating!

Sounding exciting in here though with houses and jobs and whatnot.

Yay for injections red. Hopefully painless!

Shame you aren't sure about the job juniper. What will you do if you're offered?

DH SA came back normal today which is good. Looks like I'm the problem so now just awaiting referral and appointment at the clinic. More waiting!

Redshoes56 Tue 19-Nov-13 22:43:10

I have to give myself daily injections for about two weeks, go for blood work and ultrasounds pretty much every other day during that time period to see how everything is progressing, and then show up for the egg retrieval around December 6 or 7. I hope they get a whole ton! grin DH is totally freaking out how that we're actually doing this and the time is getting close. I need to slip a tranquilizer into his brew, maybe.

Redshoes56 Tue 19-Nov-13 22:43:30


juniper81 Tue 19-Nov-13 23:01:09

Wow red that's fast and v glad all was ok at weigh-in.

I'm going to talk to some ex-colleagues and get their take on it all. I'm wavering between "what the hell, why not give something else a try" and worrying about leaving my cosy number where everyone loves me. I'm erring on the side of taking the difficult path just to see how that works out. It won't be boring after all.

I have approx 88 ov sticks not doing anything in a cupboard if anyone wants any number of them. They'll cost next to nothing to post and there's no point buying some if I can just get rid of them that way!

juniper81 Tue 19-Nov-13 23:01:57

They won't even tell me til next week so have to try not to borrow trouble worrying about it for a "thanks but no thanks" next week.

1974rach Wed 20-Nov-13 07:30:19

juniper thank you so much I'd love some. will pm you my address.

guess I'd better get used to poas!

cookie I am a newbie grin thanks for the hello.

have a good day y'all

Minion Wed 20-Nov-13 08:00:35

cookie sorry about the dodgy tests, I swear before they were ever invented pregnancy must have been less stressful, yes, you went into confinement for last month or so, but hey, a girl needs her sleep and alone time.
Yep, looks like we've found 'the one'. We both stepped in and it just felt like home. Which was weird because it isn't anything I thought I would buy.
I thought I'd get this big rambling thirties house but this is a little semi on a main road. But it just felt right. And when the vendor showed us the garden and the 'micro' orchard, well, I was bloody hooked. Went to have lunch round the corner at the pub and we both couldn't stop smiling so we just went for it. It was our last viewing of the day too, so that was a pleasant surprise.
The only thing is its not cheap.. It's in an expensive area so we are paying for location. Worth it tho, little village type place. Looks like it'll be soup for the rest of the year. But food is overrated anyhow...
Well, not cake. Definitely not cake...
Tell us about yours!
red Eeek, so soon. They really get the ball rolling where you are don't they?

Waggamamma Wed 20-Nov-13 09:49:56

My boss just announced her pregnancy. I knew it. I can't cope with these bumps everywhere. sad .

1974rach Wed 20-Nov-13 10:34:35

wagga sending you a hug.


thelentil Wed 20-Nov-13 11:31:44

Wagga, I'm sorry, that's rubbish, when I had mc, a good friend accidentally got pg with her fourth whilst waiting for snip, sigh, worse still are the ones who get of then say, oh the pill doesn't work for me, then have another, then pill starts working again, weird

ERTD today, two days early, what's that about? Is it a symptom of perimenopause? Was 4 days early last month and 4 days late month before. What's going on?! Doc shrugs this off as normal, bloody isn't!

Juniper thanks for tip off on the contraband, defo won't get those

QuarksInAPearTickle Wed 20-Nov-13 11:37:57

Argh! Sorry its getting you down Wagga, its just so hard but I bloody sure we will all have our BFPs soon!

Minion the house sounds lovely!

Cookie hope its not long for you to get your results and how crap about dodgy tests, this whole thing sucks!

Hello to everyone else I have missed.

My AF did in fact turn up, sad, was so convinced this month but oh next AF is due over Christmas so hopefully I wont be so obsessive as I will be too busy eating mince pies. Fingers crossed I can give DH the best present ever on Chirstmas morning! PMA all!

MrsW0931 Wed 20-Nov-13 12:42:36

Looks like were all a little down in the dumps today on here so hugs all round i think!

I am too watching a few people at work - i cant decide who i think will announce it first although at this early stage i havent gone into the realms of feeling annoyed...yet. Im sure come feb/march next year if im still ttc i will have changed my views! ha.

Im curious to see what my 'cycle' length is going to be once this coil is out as i cant really remember ever not being on contraception (bar when i was pregnant) as i was on the pill before i had my coil. Be interesting to see

MrsW0931 Wed 20-Nov-13 15:37:27

where is everybody? sad

Waggamamma Wed 20-Nov-13 15:59:43

I'm here on train home from work. left early as I'm feeling rather low, going home to have a good cry before I gwt ds from nursery, been holding it back all day. I'm not in a good place just now, everything is getting on top of me, how do I know if it's just grief or something I should be seeing doc about? I wouldn't even know what to say.sad

juniper81 Wed 20-Nov-13 17:46:53

Big hugs to all, esp wagga. I am feeling pretty low too but today must have been so hard, see how you feel the next couple of days. If you do into the Dr just say you feel sad all the time and see what they say. It's natural to struggle with all of the emotions at this time but you know if it's becoming unmanageable. thanks

Not much to say here. Felt really fed up at work this morning and keen on the new job, but been out with colleagues for a venting session and love them all again. Confused, I am! confused

1974rach Wed 20-Nov-13 18:15:53

Here too. bit peed off too... have been shunted off to the naughty corner at work. everyone else having a jolly old time chatting and I'm plodding on doing all the bleeding work.

join me in a glass of wine ladies?

MrsW0931 Wed 20-Nov-13 18:41:04

I really could do with a glass of wine but i have none in bathed and in bed watching dvds just chocolate milk and biccies to go then im a free woman for the night! grin

thelentil Wed 20-Nov-13 18:43:02

It does get better, just need to get through being ambushed by leaking eyes

Nyssalina Wed 20-Nov-13 20:14:01

I'll join you in a wine!! winewinewine
I've had a hell of a day, abc it sounds like I'm not the only one! My boss, who I love, has announced she's leaving, which I'm v.sad about, and everything else seemed to go wrong today, so ended up v.weepy this afternoon. Came home and cried all over DH, and when he asked what was wrong I couldn't really say! Just feeling all emotional confused
In other news, the never ending ERTD that followed my TFMR (18 days and counting!) seemed to be tailing off, but was back again stronger today! Not sure now, especially with all the emotional outbursts, if this is actually a new ERTD!! No idea if it could happen that soon, any ideas?!

cookielove Wed 20-Nov-13 21:52:30

My blood test bruise is on my profile!

Waggamamma Wed 20-Nov-13 22:16:38

nyss sorry about your shitty day. if your first ertd came and you hadn't ovulated it could have been a false bleed to shed the womb lining followed by ovulation and your real period if that makes any sense? Hope it's all back to normal

juniper81 Wed 20-Nov-13 23:21:12

Yowch cookie that's terrible! Was that off one go?! I hope you've had lots of soothing cake this evening. xx

mammabear4 Thu 21-Nov-13 07:26:15

Hello everyone!
Name: mammabear
DC: none
TTC: 1 month

I'm brand new to this site and to the whole TTC thing, wanted to know how others were coping with everything and this thread appealed because my OH and I are wanting things to be natural and not get too obsessed with the whole procedure, it would be nice to just not worry and then one day have a suspicion, POAS and bam! BFP. Have a feeling this is what will happen to him but my brain is already wired all things baby!
Just have one big Q about DTD... how often do you guys manage to fit it in? My OH works away from home (RAF) and when he is home it's once or twice a night... but it's equalling to about 10 days out of the month - lessening our chances somewhat perhaps? He has it in his head that he has some sort of "marine sperm" (ugh men) and that it's going to all happen pretty quickly, sadly I'more realistic and know this is not the case, the lack of DTD opportunity is def worrying me!

1974rach Thu 21-Nov-13 07:28:56

Is this normal? Stopped taking the pill two weeks (ish) ago and my "period" has so far been going on for over a week, and is showing no sign of buggering off.


1974rach Thu 21-Nov-13 07:32:11

hi mamma

lol at "marine" sperm. Good job we love our men grin

welcome and I am sure someone will be along with advice about dtd.

Nyssalina Thu 21-Nov-13 07:36:51

Rach, I do seem to remember that my first post-pill period was a long one. I think the 'periods' you get with the pill are actually withdrawal bleeds from stopping taking it, and the reason they're so nice and regular is that when you start taking the next pack that's what stops your 'period'. Now you're not going to take another pack, so yes, this bleed will be a bit longer than usual, don't worry! Your next period will be a real cycle one, so you'll get an idea of how you're gonna flow normally! God, bodies are so complicated aren't they?!

Nyssalina Thu 21-Nov-13 07:43:14

Welcome mamabear! smile
I think that's what all men folk are like, certain that they'll click their fingers and their sperm will do their bidding! grin Sounds like with only 10 days to work with you'll be lucky if these days match up with your fertile zone every month, so yeah, you might have to be quite organised! he's in the military, so at least he'll be used to that right? There's a few JSers with menfolk that work away I think, or they have mad schedules themselves, so you'll certainly find others with the same issue! Twice a night is good going though wink

cookielove Thu 21-Nov-13 08:11:41

juniper Yes cake has been involved I can't believe how dark it is, my mum thinks I should go to the docs about it not sure what I would say!

Hello mamma eeek marine sperm!!

Minion Thu 21-Nov-13 08:32:27

Welcom mama
We manage it and I work bad shifts, clearly struggling tho, what with 11 months of hard work and nowt to show for it,

All I know is when I came off th pill after 15 years,I didn't bleed til exactly 28 days after, then it's sortof averaged islet out between28-30 days, mostly 30.
However my body made up for years of no pmt and gave me awful pmt for 8 months. It seems to have settled itself somewhat now, so hopefully thats all I get.
Fingers crossed it'll be better for you tho.

So I'm off to visit my dad tonight, who knows if I'll be able to hold it together or not. I just can't bring myself to say the C word to him. If i do, it makes it real, does that make sense?
Then I get to spend all day with my little nephew again, which will be lovely! But then I'll get broody,he'll get broody and when I bring it up, we will argue about being obsessive etc.

Such fun!

And now my sodding iPad is missing out letters when i type!

MrsW0931 Thu 21-Nov-13 09:26:31

Morning Everyone, hope all is well and that today is a better day!

Less than a week to go until i can actually join in on your ttc conversations, feel slightly jealous atm! ha. I want to start trying...

DulcetMoans Thu 21-Nov-13 10:01:15

Morning morning! Having an odd ERTD here as well. Usually would be done by now but just keeps going... this is fifth day and would usually be over in four but no improvement yet.

Hope the trip to visit your dad went ok minion. Completely understand you not wanting to say it. It's a big word when its directly related to someone you love.

Welcome mamma! The menfolk do have confidence in the whole thing more than we do. The important thing about DTD is the timing really. If those days he is home are at the right time then you have just as much chance as anyone else.

Oh, 6-8 weeks to wait for referral appointment now tests are done apparently so maybe in the new year. Feels like ages but I know it will be here before I know it.

thelentil Thu 21-Nov-13 10:31:04

Oh Minion, I do hope your Dad is going to be ok, mine got ill last year but didn't tell anyone, until it was too late, he didn't want anyone to worry

I had MC just after losing him, but the morning after it was confirmed, as I was waking up, had a really strong feeling that he was holding my hand

DP had a similar amount of optimism about his little soldiers! Here's hoping Mr Mamma's right about his "marines"

MrsW0931 Thu 21-Nov-13 11:50:53

Im so sorry Lentil that sounds like an awful time, i lost my Nan last year and we were really close so i cant bear to think what its like to lose a parent.

I hope too that your Dad is going to be ok Minion.

strange you say that about your OH's as mine is already thinking the worst about his 'swimmers' not working and the coil isnt even out yet! - another reason why im having it out a month before telling him in hope i get pregnant in the first month and he can skip all of the ttc bit as hes going to be such a worrier!

6-8 weeks will fly by Dulcet especially with christmas countdown to keep you distracted :-)

Me and my DH have a pretty active sex life, we dtd most nights and we arent ttc yet...weve been together for 2 years and people say that in 5 years time it will all change but at least for now while were ttc it is hopefully going to go in our favour!

From reading up though it seems that you only need to actively be dtd 5 days prior to conception so providing you OH is home around these dates you should still be in with the same amount of chance of getting your BFP wink

Nyssalina Thu 21-Nov-13 12:16:51

Morning all smile
The tide has not developed, seems to have just been The Longest ETRD in the World (TM) having its last gasp.
So bored of this now!!!
Lucky that it's nearly Xmas Dulcet, 6-8 weeks really will fly by at this time of year - hurrah! smile
I missed that they've sorted you out with injections Red! Great news! Although I don't know how I'd be injecting myself <shudder> - I'm such a big weed!!
Hope the visit to your Dad went ok Minion - was he forthcoming in telling you how things are going? Dads are the worst for keeping it close to their chest I find, well my dad certainly is! Hope he's keeping ok.
Sounds like a rotten time lentil, but fingers crossed for happier times ahead! thanks

Waggamamma Thu 21-Nov-13 15:09:16

Welcome mama. Sorry can't name check everyone as I'm on my phone but thanks for the hugs and sympathy yesterday. We dtd twice last night to make up for it smile .

Who asked about dtd? we struggle to fit it in sometimes as I work 9-5 and dp 3pm-11pm so I'm in bed by time u get home. But we generally manage every 2-3 days and every day during the fertile window for the last 4-5 cycles. I'm exhausted!

MrsW0931 Thu 21-Nov-13 15:42:00

Glad ur having a better day Waggamamma, must be hard with your working patterns being like that - dont suppose you feel like dtd at 11pm when your DH gets home.. im normally fast asleep by that time!

mammabear4 Thu 21-Nov-13 19:12:01

I asked about DTD!! I'm glad it's not just me who's struggling I don't feel so much on my own now. I've got an app to track my fertility but not sure how much to trust in it. I've been (apparently) at my most fertile since last Sunday, DTD Sunday and Monday and then Tuesday morning he had to go sad so this week has been wasted!!! Unless his "marines" are really as powerful as he likes to think! We will have to just try to match up schedules as much as poss, hopefully it won't lessen our chances too much. Early doors anyway! It's so good to be able to chat about this sort of thing! P.s. Has anyone else got a fertility app? I have "ovia fertility" previously known as "ovuline"

Redshoes56 Thu 21-Nov-13 21:12:20

I'm impressed, mrsw, I am usually way too tired for that much activity on a regular basis! In fact, we haven't been doing much of anything for quite awhile now. He's stressed about work and school, I'm stressed about work, and we're both stressed about this IVF business. Maybe we'd have less stress if we just got busy. Hmm....

mamma - welcome! Here's hoping the marines do their job quickly grin

Thinking of you minion thanks

Things keep forging forward here, although I am a little bit (ok a lot) freaked out about starting the injections on time, as my insurance company apparently needs to do a special review of my prescriptions that could take 7-10 business days; not good when I'm supposed to start this coming Monday! Bless the lovely lady in the finance department of my clinic, who told me to relax and that they put things through as urgent and will chase them for me if needed. Fingers crossed.

lil1ady Thu 21-Nov-13 21:59:53

hi everyone. so much going on here so sorry for being AWOL. still dealing with all this work crap, still signed off sick. have had a stomach bug last couple of days which has been horrid and hindered our start to jsing this month. and I'm away for the weekend. shouldn't be a problem hopefully as I expect to ov the weekend after. could really do with some good news at the moment so fingers crossed on the bfp.

hi to all the newbies

where are the likes of bear and Essie?
apologies if I get the wrong things for the wrong people, there was a lot to catch up on...

congrats on the house minion that is so exciting. hopefully that will distract u from TTC and Ur bfp will show up! hope your dad is doing ok too

red fx the insurance gets sorted quickly. just think baby thoughts when you stick yourself with those nasty needles and you won't feel em!

wagga sorry to hear you are feeling down. try and set yourself small goals each day. if you go to the doctor they may want to suggest anti depressants and you can't TTC whilst taking them. use that as your focus to find yourself and get back on your feet. albeit for different reasons I know how you ate feeling. hugs

those of you with long lingering ertds, my third period after stopping the pill lasted 49 days. my doctor was not at all concerned about this! apparently it was to do with progestrogone (can't spell) levels not falling off properly. I expect it would be the same sort of issue for you nessa so try not to worry too much. mine decreased to just spotting at times in those 49 days so if you're getting that its likely the hormones sorting themselves out.

sorry if I've missed people but here's a glass of wine on me grin

Nyssalina Thu 21-Nov-13 22:09:52

Hehe, thanks lil! It's getting there! Bear & Essie were about last week I think? We're all busy bunnies aren't we smile

lil1ady Fri 22-Nov-13 10:52:11

glad to hear it nessa

hopefully all this business will distract us and trick our bodies into bfps!

fifi669 Fri 22-Nov-13 13:17:54

mammabear i used the clue app, it averages out period lengths, estimates PMT and fertile days etc. You can put all sorts of useful information in it like moods, pains and CM stickiness smile

The say to dtd every other day throughout your cycle incase you ovulate earlier/later than you thought. Don't do it too much though else your man will be making sperm dust! First month we realised having so much sex was working against us we got our BFP!

Redshoes56 Fri 22-Nov-13 17:18:21

Happy Friday, viroids!

That is all from me smile

Bearfacedchic Fri 22-Nov-13 19:29:21

Hi there! Sorry for not being around for a while guys. Work has been sooo busy so sympathising with those folks who are having a rough time at work at the mo. I won't pretend to have read the last 10 pages or so. I'll try and catch up at the w/e, but I still have work to do, so can't promise anything. Did I miss anything major? blush Sorry for asking -that's rubbish, I know.

Minion - hope you are okay under the circumstances. thanks

Wagga - echoing what others have said - take it slowly and don't put too much pressure on yourself. Be kind to yourself.

Red - hurrah for the injections in a way as it will get you to where you want to be. <hand squeeze> I'm sure it will all be fine and they'll get to through in time.

We're just shagging away ATM and awaiting appointment for IVF clinic. Hope it comes soon . . .

Dulcet - are you being referred for tests then? How did the SA go for Mr Dulcet? (Sorry again for asking <loser> need to read backwards).

Off running now - au revoir me lovelies! Happy Friday!

1974rach Fri 22-Nov-13 23:11:30

No jsing this weekend.... AF still hanging on in there and am visiting my parents. Can't possibly dtd under their roof which is a shame cause have had a few large vinos. OH on nights all next week and then we're off to Scotland week after.....

I just want to dtd!!!!!! We're not gonna get a bfp at this rate cause capes are not being worn shock

InThisTogether Sat 23-Nov-13 01:12:31

Name: InThisTogether
DCs: None
TTC Since: November 2013 (just stopped pill 21.11) 1st cycle

FlipFlippingFlippers Sat 23-Nov-13 08:36:57

Hi everyone, you lot seem like my type of people!

Name: FlipFlippingFlippers
DCs: 2
TTC: Since September (ish)

Bit of a back story to my situation. Currently ttc after 2 months without AF prompted the conversation about if we wanted more. Had a mc last year and after missing AF (when I'm always on time) had me worried. Decided not to stress and go for the let's just shag loads method grin

EmberElftree Sat 23-Nov-13 08:45:12

Hi Just Shagging-ers,

Someone suggested that I join this thread so here I am!

Name: Ember
DCs: None
TTC: Since October 2013 (cycle #2)

DoesZingBumpLookBigInThis Sat 23-Nov-13 09:22:52

Name: Nessalina
DCs: None
TTC since: March '13 (got upduffed on cycle 4, but sadly had to TFMR at week 15, just getting back on the JSing wagon!)

Name: lil1ady
Dcs: None
TTC since: November 12, exactly a year ago today to be exact

Name: dulcetmoans
Kids: none
TTC since: March 2012 with slight gap. Now 15 cycles in total

Name: Sausagesaurus
DCs: None
TTC Since: this is my 1st cycle so November 2013

Name: juniper
DCs: none
TTC since: August 2011 with CMP Jan 12

Name: Gnomiegrace
DCs: none
TTC since: May 13, 5 cycles

Name: Zing (added by Ness!)
DCs: Six
TTC since: August, Just got her BFP, and is hopefully continuing to lurk!

No kids
TTC since Aug 12, MCs Oct 12 and May 13

Name: Furryscoob
Kids: none
TTC since: July 2013

Name: Bearfacedchic
Children: zilcho
Ttc since: August 2011 making it now 27 cycles. Yawn. Being referred for IVF. Get those test tubes and Bunsen burners out!

Name 1974Rach (Rachael)
No Kids (yet)
TTC since 09/11/2013

Name: quarksinapeartickle
No kids, 1 mc in Oct
Ttc since Nov 2012 (gulp....a whole year)

Name :Minion
Kids: none ( not through lack of trying)
TTC: yes but getting over it quickly. Cycle 11... DE.PRESS.ING!

Name: Cookielove
kids: None
TTC: Jan 2013 (miscarried in sept 13)

Name: Redshoes56
DCs: Not yet!
TTC Since: Um....yeah, it's been awhile. Been "Just Shagging" here since Sept. 12

Name: fifi669
Kids: DS 05/12/10
TTC: April 2013, BFP October 2013.... Hanging around til it seems real.....

Name: Essie
DC: nope
TTC: Since Dec 2013 <-- do you mean 2012?! grin

Name: Waggamamma
DC: 1
Ttc #2 since Feb, miscarried in June, on cycle 5 since then.

Name : mrs w
Children: 2
Ttc since: next week when my coil is removed so a total newby!

Name: InThisTogether
DCs: None
TTC Since: November 2013 (just stopped pill 21.11) 1st cycle

Name: FlipFlippingFlippers
DCs: 2
TTC: Since September (ish)

Name: EmberElftree
DCs: None
TTC: Since October 2013 (cycle #2)

lil1ady Sat 23-Nov-13 10:13:22

Wow we are a growing crowd. Hi together ember and flip welcome!

how's the sickness zing?

Nyssalina Sat 23-Nov-13 14:17:56

Hello and welcome all! smile
Poor Rach - there's nothing worse than a trip to the parents house to put the damper on JSing!! Trip to Scotland sounds promising though - just the two of you? wink

juniper81 Sat 23-Nov-13 15:21:06

Hi all, welcome new people. Rach thought of you last night. Out on the vimto and got a bit emotional telling a friend about everything and she gave me a friendly punch on the arm! Fair brought me out of it wink

Thinking about taking a break this month, it's getting me down a bit, but will chat with DH, he's a lot keener than me atm. Have lovely weekends x

cookielove Sat 23-Nov-13 16:44:12

Hello hello hello all smile

Got stuck behind a truck that had bfp as part of its number plate, made me think of you lot!

ember it was me that suggested you pop on over grin

Ertd is in the house, which is a good thing. It is cd 27/1 today so almost bang on time, my periods are now normal after my mc!

cookielove Sat 23-Nov-13 16:44:42

Oooh whoops hello neeeeewbieeees blush

cookielove Sat 23-Nov-13 16:44:52

Oooh whoops hello neeeeewbieeees blush

Minion Sat 23-Nov-13 18:02:16

I was stuck behind a car yesterday with the plates BFP!
I'll update you all soon as I'm off out for a curry with my in laws x
Welcome brand new shaggers, pull up a sunbed next to the pity pool, you hopefully won't be needing it as long

Kittyrose1 Sat 23-Nov-13 19:45:36

Hello! Kitty here, ttc#1 had a shitty ttc cycle 1 last month due to lady problems so I'm counting Next cycle (AF currently here) as #1 instead!

1974rach Sun 24-Nov-13 09:09:23

Morning viroidsgrin

Dtd at my parents houseshock I blame the wine.... feel like a teenager and feel like I'm going to get in trouble.

OH made me laugh at a key moment, he said "Are you ready? We're gonna make a baby" still making me chuckle this morning.

juniper never under estimate the power of a friendly punch on the arm. Hugs are likely to make you cry and therefore wreck your mascara, but a punch might just make you smile and they act as a hooya!

have a good day y'all xx

.....hmmm wonder if I'm upduffed ha ha ........

Nyssalina Sun 24-Nov-13 09:32:19

Hehe, you never know rach grin !
Glad to hear the insides are coordinating again cookie! How long has that taken? I've just finished the post TFMR AF (thank god!) so I'm waiting for the first 'real' AF to be allowed to properly DTD. Ideally I want it to not turn up til after Wednesday... I may have been obsessing about dates slightly (a hooya may be in order!) but basically, so long as next period starts on or after November 27th 2013, we're ok to try that cycle, as the baby would be due 3rd Sept 2014. So long as they're not early, they'd be five on 3rd Sept 2019, and not have to go to school for 2nd Sept 2019 term!
Aka no unprotected sex before 11th Dec!
Bit OTT?! blush
Welcome kittyrose! smile

cookielove Sun 24-Nov-13 09:43:36

nyss it really hasn't been too long to get my periods back to normal, found out on the 24th of sept that the baby had died, Erpc was 6 days later, 11 days after that I had a one day period, 17 days after that I had my real period, 27 days after that I had my next. Usually have a 28 day cycle lasting 3-4 days smile

Now we are waiting for the results of the blood test to see if we can start ttc again. Fx every one that we aren't carriers.

Why do you not wa
Hello kitty smile

cookielove Sun 24-Nov-13 09:44:42

Whoops, why do you not want your child to be the oldest in its class?

cookielove Sun 24-Nov-13 09:45:48

Or is that youngest? hang on I'm confused!

DulcetMoans Sun 24-Nov-13 11:33:07

So longest ERTD I've ever had seems to be over. 7 days, WTF is that about?! There's a chance my new job could send me to US next July so debating how pregnant I can be to get on a plane. If a baby was due Sept, could I get on plane in July?

Hope you get the results soon cookie, did they give an indication of when?

Good curry minion? I had one yesterday, feel fat now!

Hi newbies! Get shagging!

DoesZingBumpLookBigInThis Sun 24-Nov-13 13:34:06


FX from all of us in Zingland and that is a lot of fingers!wink

Dulcet -

that depends on dates and when you are flying back.
last time I flew I was 32 - 33 weeks pg (March 2010) the rules were:

- if over 32 weeks pg you need a letter from GP that is no more than 3 days old on the day of travelling
the letter should state that you'd been checked, no problems or expected complications and you're fit to fly

- if you are over 36 weeks you need the same letter, but it must be written the day before your flight.

best if it covers that you should be also safe on your journey home!

and of course the whole thing depends on dates (if we assume you and baby are healthy), because if you are due 28th Sept and need to fly 2nd July you'd be about 28 weeks + so absolutely no problem

if you are due on 3rd Sept but have to fly on 30th July you'd be about 35 weeks pg (say 36 weeks flying back) - that's too close for comfort, but not impossible.
although for a first time mum the GP can refuse to give you permission and you will not be able to board with that letter!

(best to check current rules with the airline you will travel with)


Redshoes56 Sun 24-Nov-13 18:15:53

Fingers crossed, cookie....

Redshoes56 Sun 24-Nov-13 18:16:26

And hello to all the newbies!

Nyssalina Sun 24-Nov-13 18:53:36

Cookie - DH doesn't want the virtual child to be the youngest in class. I'm not fussed, I know lots of well adjusted August babies, however because he's a school teacher he has seen some of the younger ones in his class struggle sometimes so he just doesn't want to take that chance. Mind you if we do get lucky month one and the baby's early he'll just have to put up with it! grin

FlipFlippingFlippers Sun 24-Nov-13 19:12:49

Evening all!

Me and dh dtd last night after 2 weeks of nothing! 2 weeks no shagging is just not normal for us and even more strange now that we're ttc I'd got a bit worried tbh but we ended up getting amorous after giggling about baby names. We ended up in hysterics after imagining calling a baby Barry (no offence to any baby Barry's out there) and I think it broke the ice a little.

Without realising it we've both been tense and I reckon it's put us off dtd. I think last years mc is on our minds especially after me recently missing af 2 cycles for no apparent reason. How do you all stay relaxed?

thelentil Sun 24-Nov-13 21:28:28

Ness, I started out being interested in whether I could influence gender through diet, or when it would start school, or if it's birthday would be close to anyone else's, even if my Mum would be in the country near the theoretical due date, now I don't care, just want a live one!

Blood test was on Friday, SA tomorrow, results in about 2 weeks, then we get to see if we can be referred to baby doc. Was someone saying it takes about 6 weeks for a referral?

Nyssalina Sun 24-Nov-13 21:39:01

Tell me about it lentil!! confused
Flipper it can get a bit weird when ttc, I started to feel like DH somehow less keen whenever it was my fertile time, but I think it was just because I was coming across a bit TOO keen it put him off a bit if you see what I mean! You have to stealth seduce them! wink

DulcetMoans Sun 24-Nov-13 21:50:56

Our referral will be 6-8 weeks lentil. That's after the tests anyway. Might differ by health authority - perhaps yours will be quicker!!

Thanks Zing, that's really really helpful! I'm not very well travelled so just wasn't sure how it would work. If I (magically) got pregnant this month it would be four weeks before due date so probably a bit close. Anything after that will probably be fine I think. Will leave it to fate! Or sods law, depending on how it goes!

FlipFlippingFlippers Mon 25-Nov-13 00:13:39

Oooooh stealth seduction sounds good. Like a ninja costume with inbuilt peephole bra? grin

DoesZingBumpLookBigInThis Mon 25-Nov-13 02:36:23


I'm an August baby and I'm very smart, kind, loyal, funny and if I was a little less modest I'd be perfect!grin

tell him it's not the birthday that matters.
it's nature and nurture. and a bit of luck.

lil1ady Mon 25-Nov-13 11:31:53

Hi all. over a sickness bug and back from weekend away so final pounced oh dh last night. seems late to be starting shagging on cd14 but hopefully will be fine based on past cycles.

we need another bfp around here, who's twotting atm?

Waggamamma Mon 25-Nov-13 13:48:59

hi lil1ady I'm twotting just now on cd20. Although pretty sure I missed ov day going by ewcm and some horrendous cramps. We dtd the day before (twice!) and day after (used lube so probably killed any swimmers) it's just wait and see time now...Not quite going crazy yet, this time next week I will be!

cookielove Mon 25-Nov-13 17:29:25

Hello hello hello all, i have some wonderful news although nothing to do with BFP's so don't get too excited, our offer on the flat we want was accepted!! Yay!!

Erm i think i was asked to describe it, and then forgot to so here is a quick run down of it, its a two bed flat in a really quiet area of the town we live in (yay) and it has two gardens and two parking spots (yay) its a bit smaller in some ways then where we are living now but it is lovely!!

Fx wagga

FurryScoob Mon 25-Nov-13 19:06:48

Yay, congratulations cookie sounds lovely!

Hello newbies!

2 days into the last TWOT of the year here but hopefully it'll go faster than normal, I'm a cook & work is bloody mental this time of year.
I've had to brave DP's manflu to DTD this month so I'm keeping everything crossed braving the snot infested mess was worth it!

Nyssalina Mon 25-Nov-13 22:36:43

Great news Cookie!! Well with you and Minion both about to be happy new home owners maybe we should promote our Fred as being great for those having trouble TTMH (trying to move house!) grin

Redshoes56 Tue 26-Nov-13 04:11:21

Hello! cookie congratulations on the flat - sounds wonderful! I love TTMH, nyssa, teehee.

Today was a crazy roller coaster of a day. Up at the crack of dawn to go get blood work and ultrasound before work. All looked good. Right now I am starting out with 13 (lucky!) follicles, 6 on one side and 7 on the other, though that doesn't really indicate how many eggs they might be able to get in the end.

After that, I headed into work. I knew I was going to have a rough day. I had meetings scheduled pretty much all day, including one presentation for my boss. I have been coaching my team on this presentation, and they've been driving me up the wall about the whole thing. It was like I was talking to a brick wall half the time - I did NOT think they were listening to my advice, and I was worried about how it was going to go. Thankfully, they nailed it. I was so proud and impressed! Phew.

During all this, though I had no time to pee or eat, I did somehow manage to sneak into an empty office to call the ins. co. to harass them about approving my medication. I was so worried about it not getting taken care of not being able to start my injections tonight. I got a human being on the phone at around 12:30 who promised me in a few hours it would be handled. At 3:30, I called the pharmacy, and the tech there said half were approved and half were rejected! WTF. She was amazingly helpful, called the ins. co., got it all straightened out by 4:30.

Off I go to pick all the meds up before 6 p.m. It's a special pharmacy that deals in fertility medication. I was incredibly stressed about getting there on time, and sure enough, traffic was a nightmare. All the stress about work and trying to also coordinate all this IVF nonsense finally hit me. Suddenly I am sitting in my car, with a sea of red lights in front of me, crying like a fool. I pulled up at 6:04, and the light was on in the hallway...but the actual office was dark and the door was locked. I just wanted to collapse on the floor in a heap.

Just when I was about to collapse into said heap, a woman came down the stairs in her coat, car keys in hand, obviously about to go home. She looked at me and asked, "Are you OK?" (I guess I looked THAT distraught.) I told her my sob story, and she unlocked the door, turned on the lights, and got me my stuff. I have never been so relieved. Now THAT is customer service. I need to write a nice letter.

Anyway, I don't know why I'm sharing all this except to give you a glimpse into my crazy day. I just gave myself the first two injections and it was easy! I was a little nervous, but it was totally painless and not difficult since there were detailed instructions and even videos to watch. Even still, I treated myself to a burger and fries for dinner; back on the low-carb bandwagon tomorrow. The next appointment I have is Thanksgiving morning, for more blood work and another ultrasound to see how things are progressing with the medication. Whee!

EmberElftree Tue 26-Nov-13 07:13:58

Thanks for the welcomes! And thanks cookielove for the suggestion to read this fred grin

DH is now back from travelling so we're full steam ahead for this month awoohoo!

thelentil Tue 26-Nov-13 14:29:11

Thanks Nyss and Dulcet, DP and I had a long chat following his tardiness about SA, it was very helpful, he's keener than I thought!

Congrats on the flat Cookie, hope it all goes smoothly

Red, how are the injections going? Are there side effects?

Redshoes56 Tue 26-Nov-13 17:34:25

lentil - men sometimes just need a little push to get their butts in gear!

No side effects yet. I feel totally normal. Well, I was very gassy last night but that may have been the cheeseburger smile Just the tiniest bit of itching for a few minutes at the injection site, but it was for one or two minutes and that was it. I hope the whole regimen goes this smoothly! <has now jinxed self>

Nyssalina Tue 26-Nov-13 18:28:30

God you poor thing Red! Isn't it just amazing when people go out of their way for you like that? She deserves a medal smile Glad it's all gone ok, that's a pretty good haul of follicles from what I understand isn't it?

lil1ady Tue 26-Nov-13 18:44:52

fx twotters

red that is one hell of a day! so pleased the lady helped you. so many wouldn't!

congrats on the flat cookie so exciting!

same shit different day here. onward though!

cookielove Tue 26-Nov-13 20:49:26

red so glad there are nice people in the world smile

Hello embers

nyss didn't you use to be ness or am I confused?

Nyssalina Tue 26-Nov-13 23:48:04

Yes! I'm still Ness really, I name changed for the Doctor Who 50th anniversary weekend, in honour of Dr Who companion Nyssa grin
Changing back once I can get on a computer!

Redshoes56 Wed 27-Nov-13 13:59:37

The gas is officially a side effect. I got it last night, too. Maybe my ovaries are bulking up and pushing air around? All I know is, I am WINDY. I guess it could be worse. The hormones could be making me a raging lunatic. I'll take some bloat.

How are all you lovely ladies today? ember are you and DH getting busy loads now that he's back? nyssa DH is really into Doctor Who; BBC America is a staple in the house right now grin.

I am off to the market to get my turkey and trimmings to prepare for Thanksgiving tomorrow here. Hope you are all having a cape-worthy day.

fifi669 Wed 27-Nov-13 21:56:07

Glad things are moving red. You trump away smile

Nyssalina Wed 27-Nov-13 23:24:37

Oh, I am in SUCH a ragey mood! angry One of my DHs best friends and his wife have just posted ultrasounds on Facebook to announce their second baby, and it just irrationally pissed me off! I think my actual words to DH were along the lines of:
'oh for fucks sake, they've got one already! They need to get to the back of the queue and wait until everyone who wants one has one before they go back for seconds! Like a buffet!! They're jumping the queue at the baby buffet!!!'
Then I realised he was looking at me like I was a mad woman blush grin

Nyssalina Thu 28-Nov-13 00:56:48

(I feel the need to add a calmer postscript: all of you that are trying for baby no. 2, 4, 8, whatever, that is totally allowed, I have no rage towards you grin It's people IRL that stress me out!! shock)

DoesZingBumpLookBigInThis Thu 28-Nov-13 03:34:19


RL people suck, don't they?
I'm sorry you have to wait so long - I'm guessing it's because your baby is going to be one of the really well-behaved ones and those take longer to prepare!wink


cookielove Thu 28-Nov-13 07:07:48

Oh I love a rant like that. Your right its not fair!

Dr who is lost on me confused

Minion Thu 28-Nov-13 07:11:04

phewwwy red, crack a window in here sister!
All went ok with dad, he's positive, i'm positive, we're all one big glob of pulsating positivity (rinse add repeat).
Still worried tho, so here's hoping the chemo can do it's magic and contain the blighters.
i'm a fully paid up member of the twot at the moment. Got the t shirt and everything! But I've come down
with a dreaded blocked nose cold and it's not coming out. It's just sitting there waiting for me to get really pissed with it! So no nice tasty food,boooo

Anyone else participating in a but of twottage?

Waggamamma Thu 28-Nov-13 07:52:48

nyss I know exactly how you feel, irrationally gives me the rage too.

I'm in twot cd23 here. No unusual symtoms or anything though. just crossed fingers and toes. Pretty sure we missed ov day. dtd day before though.

lil1ady Thu 28-Nov-13 09:58:04

it only takes one wagga fx

I'd take being windy to get a baby red small price to pay...well for Ur dh to pay!

ness loving your rant! sounds like something I'd say! my dh has a tendency to tell me when his friends announce they are pg on Fb. I'm like why would you tell me that? I don't know these ppl I don't need to know they r pg. why tell me and infuriate me with it! I'd rather not know! grr

still jsing here. twot should be imminent grin

thelentil Thu 28-Nov-13 11:36:49

Glad it's not just me with the irrational IRL pg jealousy, so far I've confined mine to celebrity pg news. Had a big of a pang at the weekend holding a friend's son who would be the same age as first MC, second one would have been due Christmas Day

DP seems to have no concept of "fertile time" and has cape on permanently. I could explain but, yunno...

juniper81 Thu 28-Nov-13 12:19:31

Love your rant ness. I have one brewing too but may freak you all out!

Haven't heard from job people which is a bit weird! Feeling a bit fed up with it all lately, like it's never going to happen so what's the point in trying? I'm not usually such a quitter but with most things you know you'll get there in the end. Guess I need to get back into a "at least we tried" state of mind but when even my DH is getting tired of the cape action...finding it all hard work and I have so much on with work and various activities. Will try to get on it at the weekend. Think I need some of that positivity minion!

Best of luck to twotters! xxx

Minion Thu 28-Nov-13 12:39:37

Positivity being gift wrapped and sent first class juniper

fifi669 Thu 28-Nov-13 13:32:41

Feeling nervous (for no real reason) so have booked myself in for an early scan Sunday.... The website looks very amateur but just hoping to see a healthy baby so I can relax. I'm 8 weeks today....

DPs little brother has just told us he's going to be a dad, due weeks apart from ours, I couldn't handle it if something went wrong and then we're faced with their baby! (Esp as he's 23 and been trying with his gf of 8 months.... Another story). I read so many tales of heartache on here I've got myself quite worked up!

DoesZingBumpLookBigInThis Thu 28-Nov-13 14:23:07

<runs in to throw lots of baby glitter on viroids, mends capes - both quite difficult with crossed fingers!grin >

thelentil Thu 28-Nov-13 14:23:50

Fifi don't forget that it is mostly only the bad stuff gets written down, a lot more good stuff happens that doesn't appear here because it's normal! For every heartbreak story you see, there are a lot more success stories

fifi669 Thu 28-Nov-13 19:08:52

Thanks lentil I want a nice success story for this thread to kick start a wave of BFPs!

1974rach Thu 28-Nov-13 21:29:31

fifi am so excited for your scan smile and hopefully you'll be able to shout your fab news from the roof tops soon.

Am feeling envious tonight. My sister has a grizzly baby who is very clingy and just wants to be with mummy and have a cuddle. My mum is looking after our toddler cousin tomorrow and is planning on making fairy cakes and doing colouring, glittering and sticking. I want my baby so I can do it all too!!sad

No jsing tonight...OH on nights so will have to wait till Monday to get our capes on.

have a great evening hope we get some bfps soon.

EssiesInvisibleLlama Fri 29-Nov-13 11:00:14

Hi viroids.

Sorry been MIA. Totally fell off the unicorn I'm afraid but hoping to get back in the saddle when this ERTD leaves. Have had 2 awful awful ERTDs with fever, headache, dizziness and terrible aching. I thought the first one was just a virus + AF, but then it just happened this week too the day before I came on and I spent 24 hours unable to eat or leave my bed. No idea what the hell is going on as never had problems like that before. Meant to be going back to Colp on 30th Dec for another look at my mangled cervix. Wondering if weird ERTD is because of that. Have told DH he needs to impregnate me pronto to avert the next ERTD which is conveniently due on 25th December when his entire clan will be staying. Went to GP for some help, she suggested I go back on the pill 'for now'. Not sure how I stayed calm! Feeling pretty fecked off about it all. No-one seems to really want to help me.

What have I missed here? Any BFPs? Really hope so.

Sorry for my misery.

Who's got their tree up? Is this weekend too early?!

Waggamamma Fri 29-Nov-13 13:09:02

essie I've been having similiar to that too!! Since I mc in june thevday before af I just completely floored: nauseous, headaches, temp, intense pain in my belly etc. Severve pms symtoms!! AF really heavy too (tmi!).

Doc suspects endometriosis but won't refer me to gynea until next year.

Minion Fri 29-Nov-13 14:26:45

Cripes girls, I really hope they find out what's wrong. That's utterly shit having to endure that awfulness month after month. ERTD is bad enough.
I'll be thinking of you both.

essie Im away in Mexico for a few nights so tree is going up next thurs or fri, I don't have much time in the uk before the big day so want to enjoy it but can't face the thought of putting up this week. We only live in a small one bedroomed apartment (sodding Baltic btw) so we'd run out of space.

Looks like this cold is going thankfully. Never really came out just went straight to my chest and made me feel wank for 5 days. Felt so sick and it only went when I ate so yesterday I was eating everything that moved.
Was hoping I was feeling sick because of you know what but husband told me someone he works with feels this way too, so unless he's upduffed too, it's probably just a bug.
Mores the pity eh!

Nips however are sore, they came on ay 5dpo as per previous months but it's usually just boobs not nips. It's the other way round this month..ouchy indeed. And my bad is still out, thought it was getting better, but no, it came back yesterday, think with the coughing.

I'll not mention the random no no...
Get a grip minion!

thelentil Fri 29-Nov-13 14:26:56

Rach, I went to a kids birthday party a couple of weeks ago, came away with nits, no idea which little angel I got them from. Feeling very slightly less broody after that discovery! As far as I'm concerned, they can keep their glittery fairy cakes if they can keep their parasites too

Yes, yes, I know, it's far less revolting when it's your own kid you've caught an infection or infestation from

1974rach Fri 29-Nov-13 20:05:29

thanks lentil am feeling better today smile

viroids may I just ask about pant snot please? Is it just because I've come off the pill that it's more noticeable? xx

lil1ady Fri 29-Nov-13 22:51:07

not necessarily rach I've had loads every month for days and days since coming off pill sept 12. I see it as a good thing because its easier to judge when I'll be icing...although I have to take it with a pinch of salt as I get it from moment AF leaves right up until a day or two after icing. someone else may have a different experience to share tho.

hi Essie and whoever else it was with rubbish afs and rubbish doctors, I recommend the following line"_I'm sorry but that's really not good enough, what are you going to do about it?" its fair but fair and says "I'm not taking any shit" grin works for me a lot

I'm putting tree up next weekend I think which is early for me but as I am now jobless (sad ) why the hell not! grin

Redshoes56 Sat 30-Nov-13 00:36:13

essie - Tree is definitely going up this weekend! Feeling festive here now that Thanksgiving is over and done with. We hosted my in-laws, so four people, but I made enough food for at least a dozen: 18-pound turkey, stuffing, mashed potatoes, sweet potatoes, butternut squash soup, homemade cranberry sauce, homemade gravy, and three pies! Still full. Too full to haul the decorations up from the basement, but will do that tomorrow.

DH and got our capes on today for the first time in awhile, just due to stress and being tired. It is nice to have some of the pressure off since I'm medically rigged right now NOT to ovulate, and also have something else in there besides an ultrasound wand grin. My second scan went well yesterday; two of the follicles on my right ovary have already grown nice and big. I go again tomorrow morning.

And I agree with lil - sometimes you have to be a bit aggressive (but fair and polite) to get somewhere! I feel bad for everyone suffering with nasty ERTDs. I have a girlfriend who ends up with so much pain she almost passes out at work, yet the docs can't figure out what's wrong. Crazy.

cookielove Sat 30-Nov-13 09:47:38


Minion Sat 30-Nov-13 18:12:12

Girls who have been pg before. Can I ask a question?
How did your boobs feel?
We all know I go though this every month without fail so in keeping with tradition I'll carry on.
So this month I don't have the shooting throbbing pains in the sides like I normally do. This month its all about the nipples. Sooo sore even rubbing them with materials from clothes is sore sore sore. They also feel bruised and heavy and dare I say it, fuller.
And they are getting sorer by the day.
I don't now what to think. On one hand (the bigger hand) I am pretty sure I am not upduffed as every month it always goes like this, but there is a small wee tiny inkling of a different feeling...
So... Ladies? Help.

DoesZingBumpLookBigInThis Sat 30-Nov-13 18:16:18


sore to even touch? hate bras?
congrats might be in

lil1ady Sat 30-Nov-13 18:39:17

ooh min fx! when is AF due? Go POAS sista!

cookielove Sat 30-Nov-13 18:45:25

Mine were super sore although never changed in size.

Time to POAS smile

Minion Sat 30-Nov-13 19:33:15

On girls,I can't bring myself to do it before ERTD is even late. Too many crushing dissapoinments. Plus I'm on my own in a hotel down south, husband at his parents for the weekend, tomorrow I fly to the Caribbean till weds. And weds is the day she is due.
Yep, now too sore to sleep on front and that's my go to sleep pose! When I took my Bra off early... Christ almighty

cookielove Sat 30-Nov-13 19:55:45

Minion - I have small boobs and I am able to wear vest with inbuilt bras with a t shirt on top. When I was pregnant my bra was rubbing so much I thought I would try wearing the vest instead, big mistake! Not only was the pain immense the vest offered me absolutely no protection against the babies (work in a nursery) when they grabbed at me sad good luck! when will you test?

Minion Sat 30-Nov-13 20:06:30

I'm only 10dpo I think so unless something has gone amiss I shouldn't be feeling this way so soon... Look at me, talking like I am already

cookielove Sat 30-Nov-13 21:10:45

Oooh you have good will power. I tested on they day af was due and was not expecting a +. Had no inclination at that point that I was, although thinking back later I had been really emotional abput something that I am usually level headed over. Will you test at 12 dpo?

cookielove Sat 30-Nov-13 21:14:34

Forgot to ask, the midwife who is in charge of our case is out of office till Jan. We should get the results soon as it was 2 weeks ago we had blood tests, am I right in assuming another midwife will contact us?

Nyssalina Sat 30-Nov-13 22:44:51

Ooh, lots of messages, hey everyone! smile
Cookie, you should, but I wouldn't count on it, I'd be calling them as soon as its two weeks and one day if you haven't heard anything before that!
Minion that's pretty exciting... When I was pregnant the only thing that hurt more than having a bra on was taking it off! grin And yes, it was all about the nipples as well as a bit of side boob issue. Weirdly, when I was preggers it felt like my boobs were getting bigger but now I'm not I haven't noticed them actually getting any smaller, so not sure if they've permanently increased in size or whether or not it was just an optical illusion that they got bigger in the first place!! If I were you minion there is no way I could resist the urge to P all over anything that moved, but I guess for the sake of sanity you should probably wait a couple of days wink
I have good news! My period started today grin I know the ERTD rolling in isn't usually cause for celebration, but being as it's four weeks today since the procedure, it's bang on schedule for it to arrive, so it's pretty good to know my system is getting back to normal quickly. It means me and DH can get our capes on in earnest as soon as she buggers off again! grin

DoesZingBumpLookBigInThis Sun 01-Dec-13 00:19:42


that's good news for sure - a fesh start thanks


buy a few tests and take them with you.
You have to test on Thursday morning. (don't care what you want, I'm bossing you around! grin )

so exciting!
I had really painful boobs with DS1, same as cookie said, taking bra off and no support was agony.

DoesZingBumpLookBigInThis Sun 01-Dec-13 00:20:19

and Happy Shaggy December to all of you!grin

Minion Sun 01-Dec-13 03:45:04

Well silly old me was totally bushed last night at 8(?) So thought it was a good idea to call it a night, then. So, bang, awake at 3:30!

Oh so glad the witch has returned for you (never thought that would be a good thing to say on a conception forum), so Christmas Capes on all round if say.

Zing, yes boss! I'm back in the UK on Wednesday and have one pee sitting waiting to make itself useful.

I'm gonna get me some wifi in hotel when I land so I can update you all when, inevitably, my boobs stop hurrying as once again, i'm letting my imagination run wild.

Back to sleep minion. There's a good girl...

1974rach Sun 01-Dec-13 10:36:18

Morning ladiessmile

Christmas is a coming and hopefully the new year will bring a bfp.

Have packed my cape as we're off to Scotland tomorrow. can't wait for a week of him and me time.

Off to buy thermals ....

FlipFlippingFlippers Sun 01-Dec-13 14:42:12

Have a nice trip away rach

Happy December everyone tchsmile

I'm trying not to be grumpy today. Last 3 times of dtd dh has had issues. No problem actually dtd, just finishing. He says he's not sure why. Is it bad I'm just hoping for some stray swimmers?

Waggamamma Sun 01-Dec-13 15:04:34

Fingers crossed for you minion. My af is due on Wednesday too, although I've broken out in spots over the weekend so I think she's on her way. Strange pinching pain in my right side this morning.

rach maybe it's the pressure of baby making. My dp really doesn't want to know when I'm ovulating as it put too much pressure on him to 'perform.'

juniper81 Sun 01-Dec-13 16:12:51

Have a lovely trip rach.
cookie I'd be calling the dept in advance of anticipated results and finding out who will be calling me when they arrive. You have to be a bit of a control freak with these things as they won't worry about it, sadly. Or maybe I'm wrong. Hope so!
Thanks for that package of positivity minion, got the cape on this weekend and feeling good about this cycle, no idea why! Just trying to enjoy ourselves instead of it all being so functional dtd-wise. It's really a struggle for us to do it a lot so trying to make it a bit more fun.
Best of luck to TWOTTERS.

It seems so early to have a tree up! I don't usually bother til around the 18th etc but I seem to be in denial about the whole thing. This weekend is the 2 year anniversary of finding out I was pg last time around so very mixed emotions which I am trying to ignore.

Minion Sun 01-Dec-13 21:55:33

Stand down ladies, put away the peesticks.
Boobs have gone less painful and I'm starting to cramp.
Merry freaking Christmas!

fifi669 Sun 01-Dec-13 22:33:00

Keep positive people!

Had my early scan today at 8+2, all is looking well, I may start to truly believe it soon..... Maybe

I'm still going to hang about though, I want to seeker BFPs esp from the IVF viroids

Nyssalina Sun 01-Dec-13 23:42:05

Ah, that's rubbish Minion!!
I'm feeling very cheated, AF has failed to show herself properly after all!
<TMI ALERT> Had some pink discharge yesterday which is usually a sign that it's kicking off, then today nothing except a bit of right side cramping, so thinking maybe I'm icing instead?! Very confused and unimpressed. Sort it out uterus!!!

Redshoes56 Mon 02-Dec-13 00:04:00

Happy December! tchsmile It is my second Christmas on this fred, I remember the smiley-in-Santa-hat. The last year flew way too fast.

Boo minion - though I am still over here rooting for you as it isn't over until it is over.

fifi so glad to hear things are going well! Do stick around.

flip I agree, definitely think of some ways to take the pressure off

Nothing much to report here from your shagger-turned-IVFer. My last few scans and blood work seem to have gone well. I have no idea what the estrogen level numbers mean and I refuse to consult Dr. Google, but the doctors seem pleased with their upward trajectory, and I already have a few big follicles on deck. Last night I added another injection to my nightly repertoire, this one to prevent my body from ovulating before they are ready to harvest the eggs. (Oh god, harvest just sounds wrong.) This new med is making me exhausted. It is going to be a rough week at work. I think the retrieval is still on schedule for Friday or Saturday. DH, bless him, has been practicing making love to tiny cups in the bathroom so he will feel confident he can hit the target on the big day.

Still debating whether to put the tree up tonight. The spirit is willing, as they say, but the flesh is weak...

fifi669 Mon 02-Dec-13 01:09:53

Practicing making love to tiny cups in the bathroom, brilliant! grin

Redshoes56 Mon 02-Dec-13 12:51:07

In the clinic awaiting my turn to get poked with the wand. I thought children weren't allowed in the waiting room of this place? Watching a cute little guy playing his video game and little girl on her mom's lap eating a granola bar and rocking her Disney socks. It doesn't bother me but I have to imagine it bothers some who are struggling? Then again these parents must be struggling too for number two if they are here.

How are you all this Monday?

Waggamamma Mon 02-Dec-13 13:17:09

Good luck with the wand poking red...I've had it a few times now and kind of used to it, sure you will be too?

I thought kids weren't allowed in too...maybe it only applies to small babies? I woman had a tiny baby in the early pregnancy unit while I was waiting to see if I was miscarrying, it wasn't good, I wouldn't have minded older children though. Also when I left the gynea ward at midnight after miscarrying there was a woman pushing her baby out in the corridor. It was so distressing, they should be in completely separate parts of the hospital.

CosyTeaBags Mon 02-Dec-13 13:25:24

Hi all, can I join. I need somewhere to vent with people who don't mind hearing me moan about all this crap!

Name: CosyTeaBags
DCs: None
TTC: Since May 2013. DP had a VR in March, so potentially low fertility (don't know yet)

ZingSweetPea Mon 02-Dec-13 14:24:32


I guess some just can't get childcare so easily or at short notice.
in fact when I had to have an early scan with DS3 we took both kids as asking anyone to look after them would have led to questions and I just wanted to avoid that.
we weren't told kids are not allowed.

but I agree, it is hard when you are there because of a problem and you get your nose rubbed in it, so to speak.

Waggamamma Mon 02-Dec-13 14:53:50

Viriods! I'm finding it so hard not to poas, I need you to talk me out of it! I'm 12dpo and cd27. Af is due Wednesday and I wanted to wait until at least then to poas but I'm so tempted. Give me a hooyah!

Minion Mon 02-Dec-13 17:04:39

Big hooyah sent par avion from cancun wag

Redshoes56 Mon 02-Dec-13 19:02:11

Hi cosy - this is the place to moan!

wagga - hold that pee until at least tomorrow! Compromise with yourself?

cookielove Mon 02-Dec-13 19:49:17

Mini hooya from me!

Hello cosy smile

I will call the midwife on Wed, if I have heard nothing by then. I csn slyly check for results and ask if she a recieved my email.

ZingSweetPea Mon 02-Dec-13 21:01:42


don't pee till Wednesday.
consider yourself told!

Waggamamma Tue 03-Dec-13 09:04:50

I've not peed yet! Will try and hold it til tomorrow morning. Have some symtoms but hard to tell whether it's af on the way or a bfp: sore boobs, sore back, sore hips, waves of nausea and last night I was absolutely roasting hot despite the house being cool. Trying not to get carried away here.

CosyTeaBags Tue 03-Dec-13 09:42:25

Well done for not POAS this morning. Once the FMU is gone, there really isn't any point in doing it until tomorrow (this early on) - so if you caved and did it today, you wouldn't be getting an accurate result anyway.

So tomorrow it is then. Good luck

I'm about 3 DPO, but I've no idea when I really ovd because I'm not temping or OPKing. Tempted to try all that stuff next month, I just need to know what the hell is going on.

Trying not to obsess......

Redshoes56 Tue 03-Dec-13 12:57:42

I am hopeful for you wagga!

cosy it is so hard NOT to get obsessed, isn't it?

Yet another ultrasound today. They might move my retrieval up to Thursday. So soon! Starting to get nervous now. I hope there are super eggs in there.

Minion Tue 03-Dec-13 16:35:08

Hola Christmas bonkers!
Well tomorrow is the day of ERTD. And to commiserate such an occasion I shall stay in bed, till at least 3pm!
As I think I'm out. Just been to the porcelain throneroom and had a bit of brown on the tp. Though I never have the brown stuff (sorry tmi) I have a gut feeling she is just whetting her whistle ready for the big unveiling.
So good luck shaggers, welcome cosy and I'll see you on the other side of the pond.
Minion, out!

Waggamamma Tue 03-Dec-13 19:48:48

I'm out too, spotting started. I really thought this was my month sad .

Nessalina Tue 03-Dec-13 21:43:16

Hey there viroids. No sign of ERTD still - boooo! Decided I must have been icing, which means another 10 days or so before AF arrives. A TWOT with no hope of a BFP - how dull!! hmm

Redshoes56 Tue 03-Dec-13 22:20:31

Sorry ladies sad I was rooting for BFPs for everyone!

I am to take my trigger shot at precisely 8:50 tonight and have egg retrieval on Thursday morning! Right now there are six promising follicles, which is not really a huge number but the doctor seems pleased. Thinking quality over quantity. Six has always been my lucky number... And I just need one of the six to actually work out (preferably a future lawyer or doctor...just kidding...healthy and happy will do!).

juniper81 Tue 03-Dec-13 22:30:46

Very best of luck red, it's all happening! Hope you're feeling ok on the drugs (apart from the botty burps!). All best wishes to you for Thursday.

V sorry to people starting ERTD, maybe it's a false alarm? But ness's needs to hurry up and get finished!

Full cape action week here, which is ok. In a strange state of mind where I feel quite positive but also looking forward to AF coming on the work Xmas night out so I can drink too much and go out dancing. Guess it's good to be happy with either outcome!!

Rainbowsandroses Tue 03-Dec-13 23:09:24

Please can I join?
Name: raindbowsandroses
Dcs: 2 dd13 and ds10
TTC : may 2013

Redshoes56 Tue 03-Dec-13 23:18:31

Thanks, juniper! Sounds like a great attitude you have there smile I'm pretty tired but I haven't really had a lot of side effects. I think I am just lucky. We'll see what happens after I pump myself full of HCG tonight.

Welcome rainbows!

Minion Wed 04-Dec-13 09:00:20

Dum Dum duh.
Cooeey, yep you guessed it. She arrived. And a day early! How very rude!
But this means I get to don my stars and stripes cape add we'll be bonking in NYC this month! Maybe I'll do a VB and name the kid Brooklyn, Bronx or liberty... Ooh dear, is it wrong that I kinda like Bronx?
Hooyah stat! I'm off to bed, that flight was long.

CosyTeaBags Wed 04-Dec-13 10:57:05

How are you feeling Red? Hope you're ok.

Sorry for everyone's AF arrival - good to put a positive spin on it though. Slate wiped clean, fresh start. Booze and brie aplenty.

I'm in a confused state. I had what I thought was Ov pain on Saturday, never had it before, it was like a dull stitch like pain on my left side. But the problem is, it's still there. It comes and goes, and is worse when I sit down, walk or need a wee.

I'm currently on the waiting list for investigations for IBS which I suspect is Endo. I'm due for a camera up the bum, which I suspect will find endo, and then presumably I'll go on a new waiting list for a Gynae consultation. So I'm really worried that this could be a new Endo symptom. It's not really bad enough to warrant a trip to the GP but I do wonder if I should just get it on record, as it might speed up my Endo diagnosis..... WWYD?

I, of course, am clinging to the tiny hope that it could it be ov / implantation??? Anyone else experienced this kind of thing?

EssiesInvisibleLlama Wed 04-Dec-13 11:04:17

Hi viroids. Sorry for the ERTDs showing up.

I think I might have been a bit hasty with the Christmas tree. I've already hoovered up needles twice this week and I suspect it may be sans needles completely by 25th December! DH heard on the radio that if you leave the tree lights on at night it makes it last longer. hmm

I'm off work with a fluey bug thing and feeling quite pathetic. I have however made some progress with the hospital and I now have an appointment at the start of Jan to see a gynae and have colp on the same day. Progress! Lets hope they can shed some light on wtf is going on with my innards. We are now onto cycle 13, so I'm hoping I'm going to magically get up the duff between now and my appointment. If I don't it won't be for lack of trying. I have a christmas cape with tinsel and pinecones and little embroidered rudolfs, as soon as this bug does one, I'll be getting the cape on.

Red, really good luck with the egg collection tomorrow. Hope all goes well and hope you are feeling ok. How long before they put them back in? I don't know what the timeline for IVF is.

Welcome to the newbies too!

Minion, Bronx? I think you must be over tired! grin

Happy hump day everyone! (in all senses of the word obviously)

Redshoes56 Wed 04-Dec-13 12:46:37

minion The Manhattan Shagging Project sounds promising! Brooklyn is a nice name. Or you could go with Jersey, you know, after your Joisey pal Red ;)

I still feel fine! It is almost unsettling. I feel like I should have some twinge or ache to know it is all percolating, you know? I had what could have been light cramps last night after taking the trigger shot but it also could have been indigestion. Nothing has been pronounced enough to really say, hey this is a side effect, except for the fatigue. And even that could be compounded by not sleeping well!

I am a little nervous now that the retrieval is like, 24 hours away. Insane. I think DH is more nervous than I am though. He is worried about everything: missing the cup, mixup at the clinic, natural disaster, you name it. He needs the anesthesia more than me!

Redshoes56 Wed 04-Dec-13 12:49:40

essie they generally put the embryo(s) back after five days at clinic. If for some reason my uterine lining craps out before then, they'll freeze the embryos until next month. I have to just be diligent about my progesterone suppositories after the eggs come out. I am having laser acupuncture before and after the embryo transfer which some studies show helps success rates. I just want to try it!

CosyTeaBags Wed 04-Dec-13 12:55:51

Red is this your first IVF cycle? (sorry don't know your back story) Fx for you flowers

I've called my GP to ask for a phone consultation rather than bother her by going in. She will probably tell me it's nothing - but I just want it on my record that I've had another episode of abdominal pain. Might help speed up diagnosis in the long run...

Redshoes56 Wed 04-Dec-13 13:19:06

Yup, first one cosy! It has not been bad at all. We did "wait and see" for over a year before investigating. My DH has poor morphology but we have good chances, so here we are! I have been the American mascot on the JS fred for over a year (yikes!). I think bear is the only one who may beat me on longevity.

You did the right thing. It is always good to raise even the small issues if it'll help speed things up. Squeaky wheel gets greased as they say!

Redshoes56 Wed 04-Dec-13 13:20:44

I think every doctor in the practice has had a go with the dildo cam at this point. He used the words beautiful and juicy in reference to my follicles. Not sure if I am flattered or creeped out. Ready for tomorrow!

CosyTeaBags Wed 04-Dec-13 13:59:13

He used the words beautiful and juicy in reference to my follicles. Not sure if I am flattered or creeped out. fshock

I suppose he's seen more than his fair share of follicles. Sounds like a positive assessment!

thelentil Wed 04-Dec-13 17:29:52

Doc tomorrow, getting results of blood test and SA and maybe getting referred to baby doc

My friend told me to get AMH tested, has anyone heard of it or had any experience of it? Neither nurse or doc knew anything about it

Redshoes56 Wed 04-Dec-13 17:36:33

Good luck, lentil - hoping for nothing but the best, I know it is nerve wracking!

I had my AMH tested. That was the only blood workup I owed some money on outside of insurance, so I think it's less commonly done/covered. It's a hormone test that helps predict what your ovarian reserve looks like. It declines as you age, so the higher the number, the further away from menopause you are. I don't remember what my level was other than that I was told it was appropriate for my age.

-Dr. Shoes. fwink

CosyTeaBags Wed 04-Dec-13 17:43:12

Just had my phone consultation with the docs about my abdominal pain. She was a bit exasperated with me and said there wasn't much she could do without examining me.

I said I just wanted to know whether I should accelerate investigations for Endo, or just wait for my bowel diagnosis, then get referred.... (ie wait forever). I also told her I was worried about my Day 21 blood tests (have just started a separate thread about this - anyone with any good advice please help!).. I think she thought I was getting a bit too anxious and overwrought and suggested we 'had a chat'...

I ended up just giving myself the advice that I should wait and see what happens next month. Now I just want to cry and hide from it all sad

CosyTeaBags Wed 04-Dec-13 17:44:05

And good luck Lentil - it's good to know that the ball is rolling and if you need help youre on the way to getting it

Rainbowsandroses Wed 04-Dec-13 17:54:43

Sorry to everyone whos ertd has started. Mine has and feeling glum as was feeling optomistic. Joined thid thread as bedore when I was TTC I was becoming obsessed its so easy to isnt it.

thelentil Wed 04-Dec-13 18:01:45

Oh I think having your follicles complimented is much better than the silent frowning at screen whilst absentmindedly manipulating the wand

Waggamamma Wed 04-Dec-13 18:51:21

All sounding positive red

I've had abdominal trouble too cosy, doc suspects it could be endometriosis but won't make a referal yet because I had a mc in June and it could be things 'settling down.' I've had an ultrasound which was clear and bloods for thyroid and anemia but they have lost the results angry . The receptionist wasn't bothered by this!

juniper81 Wed 04-Dec-13 18:55:48

hey, just throwing in that I had really bad abdominal trouble and had loads of tests, it turned out to be h pylori.

Oh, it's all kicking off at work and I'm probably going to get shouted at tomorrow. sad One of my colleagues is quite seriously mentally unwell but seems to be the only one who doesn't realise it. Management don't seem to be able to do anything about it. So not in the mood for being shouted at for something which is not my fault and my body doesn't feel like a very nice environment for any potential developments that might be going. It's been causing me so much stress for the last six months and I can't help but feel it's not helping with the TTC. sad Going to eat some cake!

Waggamamma Wed 04-Dec-13 19:47:20

Juniper my grandma had h pylori last xmas and it reoccured again recently. Is it possible to have caught it from her? what's the treatment?

juniper81 Wed 04-Dec-13 19:57:46

My GP couldn't tell me how I got it but definitely request a stool test (oh the glamour). If you have it you take a proton pump inhibitor for a month to let your stomach heal then take two lots of antibiotics for a week. It wasn't too bad and I felt so terrible before it I didn't care.

Rainbowsandroses Wed 04-Dec-13 19:57:49

I keep on trying to pounce on dp but life keeps on getting in the way, dcs mainly. Juniper I offer my sympathies I say eat lots and lots of cake. Im trying ti stay positive but its so hard, im starting to feel it will never happen, and im not getting any younger. Arghh sorry just need somehwere to moan

Redshoes56 Thu 05-Dec-13 02:14:19

cake for all! I am treating myself to carbs tonight, a big dish of Pad Thai from our favorite takeout joint.

Wish me luck, ladies. I'll touch base once the anesthesia wears off! Thank you for being a great sounding board and support system xo

Nessalina Thu 05-Dec-13 07:40:09

Good luck Red!! Hope it goes fabulously! grinX

FurryScoob Thu 05-Dec-13 08:10:55

Good luck today Red & Lentil hope you both get the results you want!

Hello newbies

Sorry ERTD arrived to some this week, it's due here on Saturday so make room in the pitty jacuzzi

ZingSweetPea Thu 05-Dec-13 08:46:25

good luck for today Red!
hope it goes well.


good luck also

sorry for ERTDs - minion thanks

Minion Thu 05-Dec-13 09:11:07

Thanks zing not to worry tho, I'm used to it now. I think if I ever saw that extra line appear it would confuse the hell out of me now.
red eeeekkk it's all happening. Good luck and when you're not in a zombie like state after the anasthetic come back and tell us all about your juicy follicles.

Re h.pylori. I've had it, it's characterised by acid reflux for me, it's something which already lives in stomachs but half the worlds population suffer with it some time or another. It an reoccur, just need proton inhibitors and antibiotics and it sorts itself out.
Afaik it cant be caught from someone, just if you predetermined to get it, you will.

lil1ady Thu 05-Dec-13 10:06:31

hi everyone

good luck today red so exciting!

sorry she got u min it all seemed so positive this month.

juniper I'm with u on the stress. my job was causing me stress probably since we started TTC. I'm the kind of person who thrives on a little stress but it was ridiculous. glad to be out of there now and moving on with the future. hopefully a future that contains a bfp very soon!

how's everyone's house buying going? all moving forward nicely I hope?

I'm twotting now. not expecting anything this month despite DTD at all the right times as there has been so much stress going on over my job, but maybe a Christmas miracle could come my way!

happy Thursday everyone

Minion Thu 05-Dec-13 10:14:57

We're just waiting for our buyers to find somewhere and sort their end out ow. Gawd knows how long that'll take tho! When we met the seller he was very nice and chatty but oh so laid back, that could be the kink in the chain I think.

cookielove Thu 05-Dec-13 12:37:43

We are waiting for the seller to find somewhere to move, we hsvhave to be out by March so hopefully she'll find something soon.

No news from my end just waiting for my results sad

fifi669 Thu 05-Dec-13 12:59:31

Fingers crossed for you red

juniper81 Thu 05-Dec-13 15:03:07

Well, I haven't been shouted at yet. So that's good.

Best of luck red! xxx

Redshoes56 Thu 05-Dec-13 16:35:57

Everything went smoothly. 5 eggs. I find out tomorrow how many fertilized. Think good thoughts. I keep repeating my mantra: quality not quantity. Will check in properly later!

CosyTeaBags Thu 05-Dec-13 16:57:07

Red that is so exciting - FX for you, do keep us posted.

I'm in dire need of a good hard Hooya. I'm just obsessing about TTC this month. I don't even have any symptoms to symptom spot about.

I argued with DP when he was 'too tired' to DTD on the 'right day'. I told him that my AF was due on his birthday, and I'd hoped it would be a nice surprise BFP, but now that he was being awkward it would be all his fault if AF came manipulative crazy woman

I then developed what I thought was Ov pain right about CD14, but it has persisted as a dull stitch like pain in my abdomen for the last 5 days or so. I called my GP about it, because I'm waiting investigations for Endo and thought this might be a new symptom, and she made feel very small and told me she didn't know what I wanted her to do, but perhaps I should go and talk to her about my anxiety... I just wanted to know if the pain was normal sad

Now I have no symptoms, no real reason to believe I might be BFP, but I'm probably not because we DTD on the wrong day because DP is a selfish arse and just need to snap the hell out of it.

<Holds face up ready for my Hooya>

CosyTeaBags Thu 05-Dec-13 17:01:59

Argh and just realized I already posted my moan about the GPs upthread - thought it was on another thread...

Someone please tell me to get over myself...

<Double Hooya needed>

cookielove Thu 05-Dec-13 17:53:17

Its ok that you've double posted, no hooya for you!!

It will be ok!

Red yay 5 is great smile

juniper81 Thu 05-Dec-13 19:33:53

Whoop for the 5 red, I am thinking very positive thoughts for lots of fertilization (sentences you never expected to type...!)

Have a gentle hooya cosy. The body is a mysterious thing, after all! I get all sorts of aches and pains throughout the month, try to ignore them and let it go, enjoy other things during the TWOT. But, it's not the wait of torture for nothing.

Symptoms I had while having h pylori were bloating, diarrhoea, constipation, pains like I had while I was pg with molar pregnancy (hence pelvic scan), severe pains at the bottom of my sternum (upper abdo scan for gallstones, all clear there), sharp excruciating pains on the right hand side of my body (thought I was having an ectopic), generally feeling like awful shit all the time and exhausted. It was not a great three months for me! Dr thought I had IBS for ages and the stool test was the last test before going for cameras down throat & up bum. Wish it had been the first!

I don't know what's going on with my body this cycle. Had EWCM straight after AF which seemed a bit early. Then it stopped, then it came back today. So I expect all the cape action will be for naught but we have actually enjoyed ourselves this time so that's something!

ThePollyAndTheIvy Thu 05-Dec-13 21:56:01

Hi Viroids!

BroodyTroody just checking in to say hi, hope you're all staying positive! Missing this thread and our sudden lack of JSing!

Gonna try to catch up with some more of the Fred just to see what's been going down.


1974rach Fri 06-Dec-13 09:04:12

Greetings from Scotland! Project Up-Duff is well underway, OH is a happy wee soul and loving the jsing. I just want to be pg without the bloody wait.

I have no idea when AF is due. I am a bit confused by the post pill withdrawal bleed and I thought I'd spotted some ewcm but not sure. I think I will have to sit tight and play the waiting game.

happy Friday lovely ladies grin

Redshoes56 Fri 06-Dec-13 15:14:16

Happy Friday, all!

Got the call this morning ... 4 out of 5 fertilized! That is GREAT news, as far as I am concerned, and such a relief. I was worried about starting with a low number and having a bunch of duds, but my quality over quantity mantra worked! Now I have the long wait until Tuesday to find out if they've continued to grow and if there's a good candidate for a transfer on Wednesday (and hopefully something to freeze, if I can be greedy). How on earth will I keep myself occupied until then?

I feel totally fine today, minus very mild cramps, but nothing I even need to take an over-the-counter for. I was amazed at the precision with which they coordinated the appointments and retrievals yesterday. After DH and I arrived around 7, he was whisked off to do his part while I was given some more forms to sign and changed into my hospital gown and gear. Then he was brought back to me and we spoke with the nurse, the doctor, and the anesthesiologist, and then off I went. I remember lying in the procedure room looking at the ceiling, wondering when the drugs would kick in. I had a quick moment of panic (what if it doesn't take and I'm awake and in pain the whole time?). Then the ceiling started spinning and next thing I knew, I was waking up back in the recovery area. Apparently the first words out of my mouth were: "No, I am NOT thinking about work!" And then I asked for three margaritas. The anesthesiologist told me I need a vacation. That's pretty sad, but at least I do have some time off coming up over the holidays fgrin

Shots may be over, but now I have to do a vaginal progesterone insert three times a day until further notice. Hooray! More things going up my hoohah. I miss the JSing part of getting pregnant!

CosyTeaBags Fri 06-Dec-13 15:21:21

Oh Red what a lovely update! 4 out of 5 is great!!

Wish you could fast forward to Wednesday so the wait would be over for you. Keep busy!!!

juniper81 Fri 06-Dec-13 15:28:48

Yay, red, 4 out of 5 is great, well done eggs!

Positivity mantra continuing over the weekend for you. xxx

fifi669 Fri 06-Dec-13 15:30:48

Excellent news red!

lil1ady Fri 06-Dec-13 15:35:52

woohoo 4 mini red's playing the game of cell division! amazing! can't wait for you to finally get that bfp red have everything crossed and sending positive mantras for you.

^brings out pom pom's...."go reds eggs, go reds eggs! Give us a B, Give us an F, give us a P, what've you got? BABY!"^grin

ZingSweetPea Fri 06-Dec-13 16:00:49


brilliant news! everything crossed for you! how exciting! grin

and as to what to do - pack your bags and come help me look after my monsters!grin