TTC no 3? Anyone just started / about to start / about to start thinking about it?

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bonzo77 Wed 06-Nov-13 14:59:00

I am absolutely not going to go nuts about it this time like I did for no 2. Because my kids have each other and won't be alone looking after their ancient parents in years to come. But a 3rd would be a bonus. And part of me doesn't care either way, and another part cannot wait for a lovely little snuggly new born. And part of me is enjoying getting my nights back, and my body, and is worried about the money, the lack of bedrooms, the need for a bigger car, having another miscarriage, or high risk pregnancy, a 3rd CS, a baby in intensive care. But then 5 months of no contraception and nothings happening..... The baby is 11 months, and we said we'd start putting more effort in once he is 1....

Anyone in the same boat? Want to hang out and worry / pretend not to worry?

sj257 Thu 07-Nov-13 13:17:47

We are kind of not trying but not preventing at the moment if that makes sense.

Also worried about car and money but hey ho!

How old are your children? Mine are 7 & 5.5, my problem at the moment is that I'm in my second year of uni but I really don't want to end up with a huge age gap (gap between my two is 17 months!) so I've come off the pill now and I suppose we will see what happens! It didn't take me long to get pregnant the last two times but conscious that it could do this time.

bonzo77 Fri 08-Nov-13 10:15:18

Hi! Mine are 3.8 and 11 months. I got pregnant really easily with DS1. Then started trying when he was 1. Got pg after 7 months but lost it at 12 weeks. Then pg after 4 months and DS2 born 1month early as he wasn't doing well and my placenta had packed up.

I'm definitely conscious that at 36 my age is not in my favour. We've been doing the "not trying but not not trying" thing for the last few months, but as of this month I've been charting, and when AF comes I think I'll get some ovulation tests.

Wrt to work and uni, and everything I suppose, there's never a good time. I think one just has to commit, and then do the best you can. There was a woman in the year above me at uni who timed her pregnancies so she managed to have one baby in the summer of her 3rd year and another just after finals (5 year course). So it can be done! Admittedly she was probably 21/22 when she had her first, so that does help, getting pg easier and having the energy to do so much at one time.

Your gap sounds like a good one, in that the older ones are settled in school, out of nappies etc. but then going back to nappies and night feeds will be more of a shock than it must of been with your second. Do you still have lots of baby stuff or will you have to start again with that?

Cakecrumbsinmybra Sat 09-Nov-13 16:25:20

Um, yep! Haven't used contraception since May and have been timing things right since August... And typically, since May my periods have been a bit irregular - couple of 34 day cycles, which got me thinking I might be pg. Now I'm wondering if I'm starting to become perimenopausal instead! We said we would be really relaxed about it and not stress, just let nature take it's course - I'm starting to think it might not happen for us tbh.

I have 2 DS - 7 and 3. Pg v quickly with DS1. DS2 took a little longer but only a few months, had early m/c, then fell immediately pg again.

Part of me still wants to get pg. The other part of me thinks it might be a blessing in disguise if I don't. DS2 still doesn't sleep through properly. We're just starting to travel more, do more fun things together. A 4 year age gap is hard enough, without adding another 4 year gap!! I'm starting to yearn for a career too as I've not worked at all for 4 years now. I'd have to have a CS (well, I'd be strongly pushing for one, excuse the pun) due to previous experiences.

bonzo77 Sun 10-Nov-13 00:34:25

cakecrumbs weirdly my periods have been a bit irregular too. 29-34 days between them. My chart is all over the place. I've just started the b6, which definitely helped after the miscarriage. So much for letting nature take its course!

Alamaya Sun 10-Nov-13 10:08:19

I will join tooo smile
I have a 2.5 year old who is the product of 8 years ttc and eventually ICSI
I have a 1 year old natural surprise who sadly has a genetic condition.

We are ttc no3 sadly knowing we will have to prenatal test for this condition as we have found out we are carriers. So not only do I need things to be quick and hope no ivf needed it is a nasty hard journey to get pregnant and have to terminate if it has it. We cant afford genetic ivf. We are considering donor iui next year xx

ttc 6 months for no3 so far xx

bonzo77 Sun 10-Nov-13 16:47:33

alamaya you sound like you have had a long and difficult journey that is far from over. I assume you have done a lot of research already. DH's cousin and his DW have been through genetic IVF and have 3, a DD and then twin DD and DS. I know they had their first NHS when it was experimental, not sure about the others. It was done at UCH, London.

By the time once TTC no 3 one is older I suppose, so things take longer. And wiser, so potentially more anxious. Are we all a little nuts? It's certainly not going to get any easier!

Does anyone know about charting?

OrangeFizz99 Sun 10-Nov-13 23:20:23

I am 11 dpo on first proper cycle of ttc no 3. Two dc - 3.7 and 20 months.

Trying not to symptom spot or get all weird about it (like I did with no 2 as well op!).

Big work stuff coming up for next year so not great timing!

I do the basic ff charting so I know my dates. Do watch my cm a bit and like ops. Have never done temping.

bonzo77 Mon 11-Nov-13 08:13:01

Welcome orange. No such thing as the "right time" I think.

Was more a temping question really, I might start another thread on it. Basically, I can see the thermal shift but FF is not adding the red lines. I'm sure it's because the time I take my temp varies a bit, depending on when the baby wakes up. And I've missed a couple of days. Going to have to be more strict assuming no BFB this month.

ELR Mon 11-Nov-13 19:17:10

Hi all, ttc no 3 at the moment this is cycle 4 not temping or using opk so just guess work!
Dd is 11 and ds is 8 fell pregnant cycle 1 with both but I'm 36 now so not so easy. Thing I'm finding the hardest is finding the time and inclination to actually dtd!
Good luck everyone

bonzo77 Mon 11-Nov-13 20:44:42

Hi elr. Yes, we have the time (we can both be super quick) blush but lacking the inclination. Masterchef is too appealing!

ELR Mon 11-Nov-13 20:52:49

Ha ha our problem is DH likes to take his time by which time I'm starting to think I romantic thoughts about ovulation ect ect!

dines Tue 12-Nov-13 18:54:19

iv been ttc since end of august and I just had two positive tests grin

dines Tue 12-Nov-13 18:54:36

this is baby no3

Cakecrumbsinmybra Tue 12-Nov-13 19:30:53

Congrats dines. bonzo, isn't it just typical re: irregular periods?? I was completely regular until we decided to ditch contraception (and wasn't on pill or anything so nothing to do with that). I don't think I'm going to start temping - for me the OV sticks have been completely accurate, ie I know I'm ovulating the day following the dark line. Alamaya, how amazing that you tried for so long, then fell pg with your 2nd! Good luck. ELR, yes it can be a bit of a chore sometimes!!

bonzo77 Tue 12-Nov-13 20:12:46

Congratulations dines envy

ELR Tue 12-Nov-13 20:51:29

Congrats dines!

sj257 Wed 13-Nov-13 21:54:14

Going back to nappies and night feeds would definitely be a shock, but then I'm one of those young whipper snappers ;) I had my first at 19 and second at 21, so am still only 26, can't imagine never having another baby and would rather it was sooner rather than later ;).

I'm starting to panic now as I've been off the pill for a month now and no signs of a period.

sj257 Wed 13-Nov-13 21:54:33

ooh and congratulations dines x

bonzo77 Wed 13-Nov-13 22:46:21

sj I wondered where my period went when I came off the pill. Turned out I was pg with DS1! Go on. POAS!!

bonzo77 Wed 13-Nov-13 22:53:23

cake how irregular till we can go to the dr? I hate my GP and am about to move.

After I got pg with DS2 I gave all my OPKs and pg tests to a friend. She's had her baby 2 months ago and had just posted the left over ones back to me. They could be a super lucky batch if i get another baby out of them! Actually, strictly speaking it might be a 4th as I I was using them when I got pg with the one I mc'd.

Anybody else get pains mid cycle? Sharp and stabby, occasionally more nagging. I know it's something to do with ovulation, but it seems to go on for at least 2 weeks on and off. I'm struggling with temping ATM or I'd have a better idea of what's going on.

Cakecrumbsinmybra Thu 14-Nov-13 11:26:03

I don't know when to go to GP, but my mum did have a relatively early menopause, so I guess I should - I think there is a test that they do to check if you are perimenopausal? And they would want to rule out other, more sinister things too I guess. If you're about to move then you may as well wait.

I always get mid-month pains when I ovulate - always have. And ridiculously bloated. Spots.

I don't feel like anything is happening either this month. I'm 8 dpo. With DS1 I definitely knew almost immediately. With the m/c and DS2 I can't say I definitely knew until I p'd oas. The only thing I've noticed is that I've had a bit of a dodgy stomach all week, but that's neither here nor there!!

bonzo77 Thu 14-Nov-13 21:03:19

I think the test for menopause is for AMH, or that might be for your egg reserve. Dunno.

My cycle only varies by about 5 days, so not like women with polycystic ovaries. Less regular than between DS1 and mc, and I cannot compare with between mc and DS2 as that was only 4 cycles, including the one that started with the ercp.

My skin is pretty ok, I think my reward for having hideous acne and then roaccutane in my 20's. I definitely get the bloating. Actually, my mid cycle discomfort is worse than my (mild) pms and period itself. Weird.

With ds1 and the mc I had no idea I was pg till I POAS. With DS2 I tested at 11 dpo as I felt so sick for a couple of days. I'm having lots of nausea in the mornings at the moment, but I think it's tiredness, rushing about and not eating / drinking enough. Too early to be pregnancy related. Apparently progesterone can cause it, which is the predominant hormone post ovulation anyway. It's a terrible tease!

Anyone else a bit apprehensive about the practicalities of morning sickness, a million appointments and then new born sleep deprivation with 2 other kids to look after? Part of me hopes I don't get pg till the summer so at least DS1 will be in school in September!

2lilgirls Sat 16-Nov-13 14:07:12

I haven't been on here in a few months but there was another no. 3 thread, I can't find it now.

I have 2 dd's and ttc since last June. I hate hate complaining when I have 2 fabulous girls but I am so fed up with it all. I know it's only 5 months but I think about it every day.

No 2 took a year so I know I could have a long wait yet, that's the hard part.

This is the first month that I didn't obsess, didnt take vitamins, didn't have a particular DTD plan etc etc. I did use an opk once when I suspected I was ovulating and that was positive, exactly 2 weeks ago which means my period is due either today or tomorrow. No sign of it just yet but I had the usual cramps last night so it can't be far away. I can't bear the disappointment of a bfn, that and the fact that I must have used 5 tests last month and spent hours looking for lines and generally going crazy blush So I decided not to test this month.

Good luck to you all. It's nice to have see others in the same situation and I don't feel right moaning on other threads when some people are having difficulty ttc #1 and #2.

I'll update when AF arrives. I can't even let myself imagine that it won't sad

bonzo77 Sat 16-Nov-13 16:55:18

Hi 2lil. I know what you mean. It seems daft to moan about ttc when one already has done it and succeeded twice.

I'm on CD28 now. AF could come any time from now, but not officially "late" till Wednesday really, due to aforementioned irregular cycle. More waiting!

2lilgirls Sat 16-Nov-13 17:27:55

Good luck bonzo. Will you test?

Re your earlier question, I never had morning sickness on my 2 dd's. lucky I know! Had severe exhaustion at night for the first 12 weeks and couldn't stay up after 8.30/9pm but that was all. Yes I would be nervous of a newborn plus 2 but I think the newborn would slot in nicely too. Tbh if I had conceived quickly I would probably have been more nervous but given that it seems to take me a bit of time I will just appreciate and embrace every minute of it smile also, no 3 would be our final baby so that would also make it all easier, knowing that. (I think) .

Christmas will be a great distraction for us if we've no bfp's and at least we can have a few glasses of bubbly over the festive season !

sj257 Sat 16-Nov-13 22:13:04

I POAS yesterday bonzo....neg! Still no AF! and no symptoms of AF coming either...!!

bonzo77 Sun 17-Nov-13 09:11:24

Well. I'm out. AF arrived this morning. On the upside that's a 29 day cycle I think, so more opportunities to try than my 34 day ones I suppose. And I'm due to get a birth mark removed next week, which I can now do without stressing about it.

2lilgirls Sun 17-Nov-13 10:22:15

Sorry bonzo but like you said 29 better than 30 something, didnt keep you waiting. Good luck with your procedure.

Sj257 I'm the same as you, AF due today or yesterday, still no sign and no symptoms. I won't even begin to dream about the possibility of a bfp until tonight.. I'll go and test In the morning if there's no sign of it.

Hi to everyone else X

2lilgirls Sun 17-Nov-13 17:11:56

No sign of AF yet which was due either yesterday or today, I had a positive opk Friday 2 weeks ago so assumed that meant ovulation on the Saturday/Sunday.

Sore boobs and nausea all day but I'm too afraid to even begin to get excited yet I can't help it. Knowing my luck AF will arrive soon and I've a tummy bug.

Eugh this is yachhhh...

I will go and buy a test in the morning if it stays away.

Anyone else on 2ww????

MrsW2909 Sun 17-Nov-13 20:20:14

Hi everyone, hope its ok to come into this convo - im due to have my coil out in 10 days (not that im counting at all!) as me and my new husband plan to start trying for baby no.3 ( itl be my husbands first) and its so exciting as i fell very unexpectedly pregnant with DS1 and DD2 so being able to do the whole ttc bit is all new to me!

Has anyone on here ever had the mirena coil to be able to pass on any advice about what to expect when i have it removed?

MrsW2909 Sun 17-Nov-13 20:22:32

Good luck with the test btw tomorrow 2lilgirls :-)

2lilgirls Sun 17-Nov-13 20:46:10

Good luck mrsW, congratulations on getting married. I've never had the coil in so I have no advice I'm afraid. I hope number 3 happens just as quickly.

Thanks, still no Af and I have nausea. It will be so cruel if I get a bfn or if AF shows up, this is the first month that I have been hopeful.

MrsW2909 Sun 17-Nov-13 21:24:13

How long have u been trying so far?

I'm not expecting anything in the first few months as I don't want to turn into a crazy woman just yet, I want to enjoy this stage u know?

2lilgirls Sun 17-Nov-13 21:28:59

Lol, I was like that for the first month ;-) I've been trying about 5 months. Dd1 happened first month trying and dd2 took a whole year. As much as I promised not to go crazy I just can't help it. I know that it will happen eventually, I'm sure.
Like I said below, it's hard to complain when there are people struggling for number 1 and 2.

ELR Sun 17-Nov-13 21:30:05

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/1815363-Anyone-trying-for-no-3
2lilgirls here a thread I started a while ago

2lilgirls Sun 17-Nov-13 21:36:21

Oh that was it ELR, thank you. I take it you're still here as well? Nice to have some company. smile

ELR Sun 17-Nov-13 21:42:15

Just read thread and it's looking hopefull for you 2lilgirls fingers crossed!
I'm 11 dPO tomorrow approx as don't opk but have had dizziness and sore boobs for last week. Think I will test in the morning as got gp app in afternoon about the dizziness.
Know what you mean about the moaning I've been trying 4 months now and starting to think it's never going to happen although that's a silly thought as already got 2 gorgeous children!
Good luck everyone...

2lilgirls Sun 17-Nov-13 21:47:28

Ooooh dizziness and sore boobs are very welcome grin
What do you have, boys or girls or both and how long were you ttc them?

ELR Sun 17-Nov-13 22:00:32

Dd is 11 fell pregnant on cycle 2, ds is 8 fell pregnant on cycle 1 so quick with both. Never really done the ttc bit, would like another girl if I could choose but a boy would be just as nice! See you have 2 dd would you like another girl or a boy this time?

2lilgirls Sun 17-Nov-13 22:04:58

A boy would be lovely but I'm just broody for a baby!! 11 and 8, you will have great help and company smile I'm sure they'd adore baby!

2lilgirls Sun 17-Nov-13 22:14:36

I'll pop to tesco in the morning after the school run and buy a test. Will update then. I am hopeful. I'm late, no AF feeling and I have nausea but my body has played cruel tricks on me before.

Good luck with GP ELR. Don't forget that the tests they use aren't very sensitive.

Night X

2lilgirls Mon 18-Nov-13 10:09:36

Still no AF! So either I am pregnant or I didn't ovulate even though I had a positive opk 16 days ago. Sometimes your body can gear up for ovulation but it doesn't happen.
I'm trying not to get my hopes up but in all my time ttc over the years, AF always, always shows up 14 or 15 days after a +opk, I could set my watch for it.

Wish me luck, off out to buy a test.

Did you test ELR?

MrsW2909 Mon 18-Nov-13 11:03:34

Good luck! Im excited to hear ur news :-) hurry go do a test!

2lilgirls Mon 18-Nov-13 11:39:32

The test was negative, I'm so disappointed. To make it worse it was a digital, so I had to look at 'Not Pregnant' although maybe that's a good thing because i won't be looking for imaginary lines!! Not sure what is going on, I must have ovulated a little later. I just want period to hurry up now so I can concentrate on next month.
This ttc stuff is torture.

Thanks for checking in on me mrsW, hope we all get positive tests for Christmas. smile

MrsW2909 Mon 18-Nov-13 12:24:09

:-( sorry u didnt get the bfp u wanted, maybe ur going to get a christmas bfp instead :-)

ELR Mon 18-Nov-13 12:39:06

2lilgirls gutted for you, it's so disappointing isn't it? I was late last month had loads of signs ect but bfn and was really fed up!
Did a test this morning and also got a BFN! I am disappointed but at the same time I'm ok about it as I want to get these dizzy spells sorted first and need to get my iron and thyroid rechecked too as I suffer from problems with both.
DH and I have decided not to actively ttc in December so we can both chill out and drink over Christmas!
So hoping for a January BFP both my other two were conceived in late January and born in nov with only a few days apart so maybe January is a good month for us!!

2lilgirls Mon 18-Nov-13 12:58:04

That's a good plan ELR. I probably won't track in December but won't be careful either. I'm starting a diet today for Christmas so I'm sure that will help ttc too. I had lost weight a few months ago but put a lot on over the last 6 weeks :-(
I was feeling down over lunch time but I received a big box from amazon with a lot of my Christmas shopping, that lifted my spirits. Could only give a quick glance though because dd2 (3) here with me.

Sorry for your bfn too but like you said, best to get bloods done and check iron etc.

Talk soon ladies and thank you all for the support and lovely company. Xx

bonzo77 Mon 18-Nov-13 14:02:36

Hi mrsw. Here's a hopeful sprinkling of baby dust all round ....... (does that look a bit like dust?). Actually its the menfolk who should be getting on with that!

2lil it's not over till the fat lady sings. Sorry you're in crappy limbo though till something affirmative happens, either way.

ELR good idea to get other health things sorted first. It's easier to address them when you're not pregnant, and getting them sorted might help you get pg. Not that my little birthmark or my (sorry TMI) anal fissure are going to stop me getting pregnant, but anyway. Thyroid issues in your case cannot help. Are you hypo- or hyper-? (don't tell if you don't want to obviously).

SJ did AF the bitch show?

I'm always gutted for a bit when AF arrives. But then I remember that if I get pregnant in the next 3 months, the gap between DS2 and DC3 will be rather small (less than 2 years), and also, with my history of having babies early, I will have a child that is young in its school year. Having been on the receiving end of that, I felt that it did affect me in all sorts of ways, mostly minor), and it's easier not to be the baby of the school year.

So, silver lining and all that. And like a said before, I'll be pleased to be rid of this birthmark thing. It's only a small laser treatment, the NHS wouldn't do it, so going private.

Shall we do a stats thing? Copy and paste the stats before yours and then we'll all end up on a post together. I'll start:

Bonzo77 36yo, TTC#3 (2xDS), Cycle no: not sure, 6?

MrsW2909 Mon 18-Nov-13 14:21:30

Bonzo77 36yo, TTC#3 (2xDS), Cycle no: not sure, 6?

MrsW2809 27yo, TTC#3 (1 DS 1DD), cycle no: 0! - coil due out in 9 days!

2lilgirls Mon 18-Nov-13 14:24:14

Bonzo77 36yo, TTC#3 (2xDS), Cycle no: not sure, 6?

MrsW2809 27yo, TTC#3 (1 DS 1DD), cycle no: 0! - coil due out in 9 days!

2lilGirls 30yo, TTC#3 (2xDD) Cycle no. 5

ELR Mon 18-Nov-13 14:26:54

Bonzo77 36yo, TTC#3 (2xDS), Cycle no: not sure, 6?
ELR 36, TTC#3 1DD 11, 1DS 8, Cycle 4

Thyroid is borderline hypo at the moment and dips lower every now and again but dr is very cautious so not medicating me, which is fine but a struggle sometimes.

ELR Mon 18-Nov-13 14:28:31

Whoops missed a few inbetween my post!
Bonzo77 36yo, TTC#3 (2xDS), Cycle no: not sure, 6?

MrsW2809 27yo, TTC#3 (1 DS 1DD), cycle no: 0! - coil due out in 9 days!

2lilGirls 30yo, TTC#3 (2xDD) Cycle no. 5

ELR 36, TTC#3 1DD 11, 1DS 8, Cycle 4

Leons Mon 18-Nov-13 22:26:25

Can I join in the conversation too. TTC number 3, at 42. Got BFP very quickly, in Feb (dtd once!), but unfortunately that ended in a mc at 6 weeks. BFP again in July, and was devastated to miscarry again at 5 weeks. Due to irregular heaving bleeding on and off since then, I became anaemic, so we decided to wait, on doctors advice, for 2 normal cycles before trying again. And now we are ready to start again. Be nice to have company to rant with. Desperately hope we can get a sticky bean this time. I feel like there is a baby boom in my area, all I see are new babies, or ladies due to drop any day, and I feel soo sad/jealous when I do. Can I add my stats, think I might be the oldest one here.
Leons 42, TTC 3, 1 DS 6, 1DD 3, Cycle 1

2lilgirls Mon 18-Nov-13 22:56:55

welcome Leons. You poor thing, you've really been through a lot this year. I really hope you have a safe, easy pregnancy very soon.

Still no AF. The test I used today was a clearblue digital and I've been googling it just now, it seems it's not very accurate and lots of people get bfns on it but bfp on first response etc.
I'm probably clutching at straws now? I might get a FR tomorrow and finally put myself out of my misery.

ELR Mon 18-Nov-13 23:31:29

2lilgirls I get the clutching at straws thing I have done it every month since ttc but some of these stats have got to be true haven't they!
leons sounds like you have had a rough time fingers crossed that's all behind you now.
Had my gp app I've got labyrinthitis apparently can take upto 6 weeks to recover, also he is sending me for full bloods to test my thyroid and my anemia caused by menaragia (heavy periods) and I've also got a mucus cyst on my lady bits! Proper name bartholins cyst. Also fell out with my best friend this morning. So apart from that I'm fine!
How's everyone else??
P.s. 2lilgirls I will be texting again in the morning too!!

2lilgirls Tue 19-Nov-13 11:19:49

Did you test ELR?

Bfn for me on first response, definitely out. Ah well, maybe next month. Must have ovulated late.

bonzo77 Tue 19-Nov-13 14:03:32

ELR I fell out with my best friend. Admittedly it was a loooong time ago. Turns out she wasn't that "best" after all. Hope that your fall out either is a mistake that works out ok, or a case of "good riddance". Sounds like your GP is looking after you, and investigating your concerns. I had a bartholins cyst once. It really was very painful, but went quite quickly.

2lilgirls I think we all clutch at straws. I'm not sure if the discovery of internet cheapie pg tests was a bad thing (means I test all the time at random and inappropriate times of the month), or a great money saving tip. I have massive bag of them. And another one of ovulation tests!

OrangeFizz99 Tue 19-Nov-13 15:48:36

Sorry to hear of all the bfns.

Dhs work not looking utterly stable at this point, think he's getting twitchy feet (he was made redundant two months before dd2 was born) about no 3. Just have to keep 'persuading' him!

I always test early. Always swear I won't and always do!

ELR Tue 19-Nov-13 16:15:45

Thanks bonzo she's a good friend but has different values and morals to me and so we shall see!
2lilgirls I didn't test this morning as couldn't find the ic's and didn't want to waste an expensive test! Will hunt out the ic's for the morning!
Yes keep persuading him orange!

Cakecrumbsinmybra Tue 19-Nov-13 18:54:03

2lilgirls, how old are you? Am I the oldest???

Well, AF starting atm, so that is me out too! Oh well, lots of pre-Xmas tipples :-) I really don't think it's going to happen for us! Not sure how I feel about that. I do want a third. But on the other hand, life is good now, why mess with it!? What if something went wrong? Having a newborn at nearly 40 - can you imagine how tired I would be!

It does make me wonder though, how many people I know with 2 thought maybe they would have one more, tried for a while and when it didn't happen after 6 months or so, decided to stick with 2.

Right now I'm thinking I'll give it til I'm 39 (June) and if it hasn't happened by then, to sort out some long term contraception.

Cakecrumbsinmybra Tue 19-Nov-13 18:59:35

leons, so sorry, I didn't see your post! Clearly you are the oldest! I am sorry to hear of your mc's. I had an early mc before Ds2 and I vowed never to put myself through it again. Yet here I am... Mine are 6 and 3 too, although DS1 is almost 7.

So my stats are
Cakecrumbs 38, TTC No. 3, DS's 7&3, cycle 4 (although actually stopped contraception in May! trying 'properly' since Aug)

ELR Tue 19-Nov-13 19:31:27

cakes I know what you mean, why rock the boat? But then I think aaah wouldn't it be nice to have one more!!
Found the an ic test and another bfn!

Cakecrumbsinmybra Wed 20-Nov-13 09:30:48

bonzo, yes at least mine is also a 28/29 day cycle this month too.

ELR, I get one of those cysts every so often too - particularly annoying when you are ttc! They can not return for years sometimes though.

TeaAndCakeOrDeath Wed 20-Nov-13 09:41:07

Watching with interest if you dont mind, have DS1 (3 in January) and DS2 (5 months) but just can't shake the feeling of not quite being done yet...

We had a 'scare' this month (unprotected sex once followed by af being 8 days late) and whilst it really really wouldn't be optimal timing (in a flat that is quickly getting too small, in the process of buying a house but massively complicated and may well fall through at any point) and with usual fears of no time/no money...still had moments of being excited inbetween the crippling fear!

So just looking for some positive stories or horror ones to convine me I'm done and 3 would be a terrible idea! to bear in mind for the future

Congratulations too dines

Cakecrumbsinmybra Thu 21-Nov-13 10:36:07

Have you all told people that you are ttc? We haven't told a soul, apart from I've told to one old friend who I only see every 6 months or so that we've stopped using contraception. To everyone else I pretend we're sticking at two!

OrangeFizz99 Thu 21-Nov-13 21:02:28

My mum knows. That's it! I also pretend sticking to two!

sj257 Thu 21-Nov-13 22:20:56

Hi guys, It's been exactly 5 weeks since I took my last pill. Still no AF, it's bugging me now I want AF to turn up so that I know things are back to normal cycle wise.

OrangeFizz99 Fri 22-Nov-13 07:34:20

Have you tested sj?

I am trying very hard not to get a bit obsessed ttc at the moment. Feeling very broody. I thought I would be more relaxed with number 3!

bonzo77 Fri 22-Nov-13 08:50:03

Seriously sj. Put us out of our misery. POAS!

Leons Fri 22-Nov-13 18:18:28

orangefizz im like u, trying not to obsess, its hard not to when so broody though. Im not relaxed about it at all, I worry it wont happen because of my age and if doesnt I know in years to come I will have a sense of regret. I know im very blessed with my 2 dc, but just have this thought that number 3 wld make us more complete, sorry might be a bit silly. I suppose being pregnant twice this year we were gearing up to be a family of 5 twice and if I hadn't gotten pregnant at all maybe I wldnt feel so broody.
Sorry to rant and rant but where else can u rant.

Just a quick question.. Thinking about TTC DC3.. But we are getting married next year... WWYD?? I didn't think I wanted a 3rd (DP does) but now I'm thinking otherwise, and don't want to wait until TTC until the summer. But do I want to be a pregnant bride.. No. But I'm so broody!! Ahh.

sj257 Sat 23-Nov-13 13:57:39

I poas last friday(15th) and it was neg. I am feeling so sick today. Argh!

OrangeFizz99 Sat 23-Nov-13 18:10:57

I'd poas again sj!

I got married in between dcs 1 and 2 coffee and would have started ttc much earlier but I too wanted to wear the lovey dress etc. it was fine and actually the age gap was better as it was I think. A friend was pg with no 2 at my hen do and I was SO jealous!!

I'm feeling stressed because we've decided that the max age ago we want between 2 and 3 is 3 years so now I'm worried it won't happen. I also think I will always have a bit of a regret if we don't have a third child. Silly really given that I also worry that three might be a stretch in every way!

No 3 is a much harder decision than 1 or 2!

bonzo77 Sat 23-Nov-13 20:52:20

Yes, POAS again. It's been over a week and still no AF!

orange I think you just get the age gap you get. It's not really under your control. I'm just hoping I get pg before DS2 starts school. Because a) i'll be 40 by then, which seems old, though I know it's not really, and several of my friends have had babies after 40. And b) I don't want to go back to work in a less part time way than I am now, as I said I would when my youngest is at school, and then find I end up taking another career break.

Anyway, I'll be CD8 tomorrow, so out come the OPKs and time to get shagging despite what I said about the next few months not being a great idea timing wise

sj257 Sat 23-Nov-13 22:53:23

done it, neg again, my pill has seriously messed my body up lol x

Nordicmom Sat 30-Nov-13 02:47:00

Hi ! Can i join? Have just started ttc no3 . Am 38 , DS is nearly 9y and DD (via gestational surrogacy after 10 miscarriages and an illness its a long story)is 19m. Feel like after the 5y break from trying after the miscarriages my illness etc and having DD via surrogate , I need to see if things are still the same ( conceived easily but unexplained miscarriages, DD genetically ours so go figure , DS normal pregnancy ) before moving on to IVF on myself which i haven't actually tried and then thinking about surrogacy again. Have just convinced DH that this would be a good idea at all. Don't know why i do this to myself but felt always that I wasn't necessarily done even after just having DD unlike DH .We'll we've just started so here we go lovely 2ww. I must be crazy, DD would be only 2 and a bit if it worked now and I'm struggling with these two but as I said to DH this could take years like with DD so we better get started before all my eggs are gone. Wondering what's going on in there anyway . its been years since i had tests and scans and levels were lower than average then already but we did have DD on the second ivf from just a few eggs.used an ov kit and always regular cycles so wheels seem to be still turning which is a good sign . sorry am rambling but can't sleep am in shock of these recent developments can't believe DH changed his mind ...

Nordicmom Sat 30-Nov-13 02:52:26

Can u add me to the stats please?!
Nordicmom 38y, TTC 3, 1 DS 8y,1 DD 19m, cycle 1

bonzo77 Sat 30-Nov-13 09:55:19

Welcome nordic. Sounds like you really have been through the mill. Interesting that your DD is genetically yours, despite so many mc's before. Do you think your illness was the cause? Might it have been your body saying "I'm not capable of sustaining 2 of us as the moment"?

Think nothing will happen this month. DH is really irritating me, so not exactly into DTD. also, I'm getting a cold, which always seems to do wierd things to my cycle. TBH I feel like shite, and feel worse knowing I'm meant to be going to some dull dull dull thing with my mother later, followed by my work Christmas thing. Very close to crying off both.

Cherieblossom Sat 30-Nov-13 10:17:11

Hi girls
May I join?
35 ttc #3, cycle 1
Dc1 5 years old and dc2 3 years old.
Will be a big gap but would love a third.

nordic, you have been through a lot. Hope you will get lucky this time

X

woodhj Sat 30-Nov-13 12:46:45

Hi we are ttc#3.
35. DD age 7 DS age 3 (previous marriage)
Trying for 4 months and going insane already! Should of come on yesterday and have not yet, don't dare take a test as im happy thinking I could be pregnant. Would be very sad if its negative.
No real signs except big boobs (which im loving)
Cant remember if I felt pregnant before missed period with last two.
Good luck girls! good job we have the chat page as my other half would of done a runner if he knew how nuts its driving me.

Nordicmom Sat 30-Nov-13 12:52:20

Thanks you both . I developed my illness from steroids that I was given as a last resort after 7 misscarriages and then had three more on them . Once I stopped the steroids my body couldn't recover normal function. So my ilness didn't cause the miscarriages since it happened after we stopped trying and moved on to surrogacy . I did two IVF cycles with our own eggs and sperm and the surrogate actually conceived both times but the first one was an early miscarriage possible ectopic , second round with two embryos resulted in ddsmile! Things change though and miracles do happen so I need to try this again first . We conceived every time we tried those 10 times so super fertile just couldn't sustain it for some reason .

FlipFlippingFlippers Sat 30-Nov-13 17:06:44

Can I join? I'm 28 with 2 dd's (4 & 5) and ttc #3. Had a mc last year and AF has been a bit all over the place so I'm trying not to worry ive got a horrible feeling something is wrong eek Only been ttc for 2 cycles but it's taking longer than with my previous 2.

bonzo77 Sat 30-Nov-13 19:23:32

Hi cherie, wood and flip. So much for trying not to be "trying" etc

nordic i recognise your name, either we end up on similar threads, or were you on the MC boards a couple of years ago? I have had one MC, I cannot imagine how awful it must be to go though 10. Emotionally and physically draining.

BunnyBaby Sat 30-Nov-13 20:38:21

Oooh... I think I found everyone.. I was all alone on the other thread.. perhaps I'll signpost the old one over here..

Can I hop on board too? waves around to everyone

We've been trying half heartedly since August (only getting into gear once a month).

I'm in the 2WW just and we've managed at days 8, 10 and 12, my cycle is only 26 days so we'll see where we get this month.

I'm 37 and DH is 39. Our two DSs are almost 6 and almost 3.

I had a MMC between my two which they think happened at 10+2 so understand the heartache, but haven't been through that the number of times Nordic has.

I keep thinking 'just one ( or 2!!) more / not finished yet', No.3 would be lovely, unsure if my body could cope with 4 thought, but lets get on with 3 first.

DH is working late tonight, so to show my OCD tendencies (joking), I have updated the list:

TTC:

2lilGirls, 30yo, (2xDD), Cycle 5
Bonzo77, 36yo, (2xDS), Cycle 6
BunnyBaby, 37yo, (2xDS), Cycle 4
Cakecrumbs, 38yo, (2xDS 7&3), Cycle 4
Cherieblossom, 35yo, (2xDC 5&3), Cycle 1
ELR 36yo, (DD11, DS8), Cycle 4
FlipFlippingFlippers, 28yo (2xDD 4&5), Cycle 2
Leons, 42yo, (DS6, DD3), Cycle 1
MrsW2809, 27yo, (DS & DD), Cycle no: 0! - coil due out in 9 days!
Nordicmom, 38yo, (DS8, DD1), Cycle 1

Graduates:

For others who want to add, just copy the whole list and add yourself in (I've done it in alphabetic order).

Us on the thread can repost the list with Graduation news (squee!) or an additional cycle.

Once in a while we can dust through with a broom and tidy it up..

Here to lots of Grads!

Bunny x (contemplating whether 1x glass of red ok in 2ww?! - thinking yes..)

BunnyBaby Sat 30-Nov-13 20:39:56

PS sorry if I missed anyone as I was scrolling up and down..

bonzo77 Sun 01-Dec-13 22:20:47

Thanks bunny for collating the stats. Am rather excited at the prospect of graduates from this thread. Who will be first I wonder? Doubt it's going to be me. I reckon my chart will show I ovulated yesterday. We dtd this morning, but previous time was 4 days ago. I guess we'll just have to endure the 2ww and see...

Nordicmom Sun 01-Dec-13 22:39:15

I've just started the dreaded 2 w wait too and am already obsessing about early signs since I've always known whithin days from ovulating . It's always my breasts first and normally nausea but this time is different since it's the first try after getting sick and I feel nauseous on regular bases anyway when I get tired for instance . I swear I already feel my breast aching but am probably imagining . DH is requesting I don't go all crazy while waiting but I don't think it's possible . Will try to distract myself which is definitely easier with 2 kids already thankfully. Good luck to us all smile!

Msastria1 Mon 02-Dec-13 04:46:45

After 28 years of actively trying not to get pregnant and ~17 on subcutaneous implant (I was in the human trials!) I have become a flipping cliche, trying to get preggers before its too late (now 43). Removed implant 6 weeks ago, using clearblue fertility monitor, using a charting app and now beginning to take basal temps. I feel like I've lost my mind as evidenced by my joining this support group. Not sure which is more frightening, getting pregnant or not being able to.

OrangeFizz99 Mon 02-Dec-13 07:37:42

I'm on the 2ww cycle 2 of trying properly.

Am 33 with dc3.5 and 21 months. Will update stats later when on PC!

Fingers crossed for all - I'm 7dpo today.

BunnyBaby Mon 02-Dec-13 12:11:04

How exciting, several of us in 2WW!

Bongo - It can be confusting can't it? We DTD on Friday, so I thought I was in 2WW.. then got EWCM yesterday, so cue an extra DTD, so we've managed to DTD x4 this month at 8, 10, 12 & 14, which is better than the 1x for the past 4 months. I think we're on the right track now ;-) 11 days to go until AF due...

Nordic - I had no symptoms at all last month, but my eczema healed on my wrist just before AF and is now back again hmm.

Msastria - It's funny how quickly we can flip from the 'no baby' mode to a charting / google expert in days (hours).

Orange - 7 days to go, fingers crossed!

Cakecrumbsinmybra Mon 02-Dec-13 14:27:37

Well, lots more of us now.

Its CD13 for me today, so shagging has commenced. MIL arrives on CD16, which tends to be the day I OV - argh! Can't bear doing it when anyone is staying in the house, esp not my MIL!! However, she's not arriving til late in the day, so perhaps we can set the alarm early and do it in the morning. Will be really relaxing with DS2 potentially waking up and shouting for me at the top of his voice. And I want another one????

bonzo77 Mon 02-Dec-13 16:30:12

bunny it gets more confusing yet.... because I've not yet had a +ve on an OPK this month, and they are the cheap ones, and I've got 100's which go out of date soon, I used one today, and the line, though not dark enough to be a positive, is there. Now, IME after ovulation the line goes away pretty fast. So maybe I'm yet to ovulate, and my slightly higher temp is more related to my cold. I think we have a reasonable sex life considering we have a nearly-one year old. Normally manage 4 or 5 times between the end of one period and the start of the next, but I think we need really to double that to stand a chance of getting pregnant. Unless we are unusually lucky. It all seems like a lot of effort (though clearly less effort than having 3 children)!

cakecrumbs I know the not-wanting-to-DTD-while-guests-are-in-the-house thing. Why not try to get a shag in the night before, and again early am on the 16th. You could always persuade DH to come in a cup and use a syringe to put the, ahem, emission where it needs to go. Not sure that really works, but at least you'd feel like you were doing something.

OrangeFizz99 Mon 02-Dec-13 19:12:09

oo cake I worked out the other day that if this month isn't the one next month's crucial days will be during a pil visit! Slightly daunting organisation wise I agree!

I used fertility friend with dd2 so went back today on there looking up my symptoms from the cycle she was conceived. Have convinced myself I have them all now of course. We also managed better this cycle (although first official cycle of trying we didn't manage it at all so the bar is low..) doing it on cd9, cd13 and cd14.

It's nice to know there are so many of us ttc3-ers out there!

OrangeFizz99 Mon 02-Dec-13 19:13:21

TTC:

2lilGirls, 30yo, (2xDD), Cycle 5
Bonzo77, 36yo, (2xDS), Cycle 6
BunnyBaby, 37yo, (2xDS), Cycle 4
Cakecrumbs, 38yo, (2xDS 7&3), Cycle 4
Cherieblossom, 35yo, (2xDC 5&3), Cycle 1
ELR 36yo, (DD11, DS8), Cycle 4
FlipFlippingFlippers, 28yo (2xDD 4&5), Cycle 2
Leons, 42yo, (DS6, DD3), Cycle 1
MrsW2809, 27yo, (DS & DD), Cycle no: 0! - coil due out in 9 days!
Nordicmom, 38yo, (DS8, DD1), Cycle 1
OrangeFizz99, 33yo (dd1 3.8, dd2 21 months), Cycle 2

Cakecrumbsinmybra Tue 03-Dec-13 16:44:38

I think this is cycle 5 for me now...

Has anyone actually done the syringe thing??? I joked about it this morning as I'm not well and couldn't face sex, and we laughed about oh but how much easier it would be than all the bonking, esp when MIL here

BunnyBaby Tue 03-Dec-13 17:24:22

Bonzo & Cake, you make me laugh, serious desk based tea spluttering moment here. I haven't done the syringe thing, but ditto for the ease of it.. hmm

bonzo77 Tue 03-Dec-13 19:50:59

bunny pleased to have entertained you!

Yeah. We did the syringe thing. DH had a short spell of performance anxiety. Used one of DS1's nurofen syringes (naturally it went through the dishwasher afterwards). I'm not sure if it resulted in a pregnancy or not, it was while we were trying for the pg that ended in a mmc. But cannot rember if it was the cycle I got pg or not.

Symptom spotting. Dangerous sport. Particularly when lots of early pg symptoms are the result of progesterone. Which dominates the post ovulation part of the cycle anyway.

I reckon that those temps are illness not ovulation. When we dtd last night I could really feel my cervix, things were very wet, and today I've been quite bloated, with more generalised ovulation pains. So I reckon all that and the nearly positive OPK means today is the day!

Cakecrumbsinmybra Tue 03-Dec-13 19:57:08

Yes, it was the Calpol syringe that I mentioned to DH this morning!! Perfect for it I would have thought... I'm not sure DH would actually go for it though - I think he only agreed to No. 3 so that we would have more sex.

Good luck bonzo! Tbh, we are being very relaxed about it this month. I know beggars can't be choosers, but an August baby next year would not be our ideal for several reasons. But we will attempt tonight, Thurs am, and maybe again if MIL goes out and conditions are right!!

Cakecrumbsinmybra Tue 03-Dec-13 19:59:35

Oh yes, I found at last week a 43 year old friend is more than 20 weeks pg with no.3! She had a mmc three years ago so kept this one very quiet (I thought they had given up tbh). Hurrah for her and gives me some hope!

Nordicmom Wed 04-Dec-13 13:46:04

The waiting is killing me ,can test from sun earliest . Don't know the length of my cycle Atm though it seems to vary ... I think I'm even more anxious with my history of conceiving easily but loosing it and it's been 4 y ...on top of it have a horrible cold so just lieying in bed feeling miserable while thankfully the little one is at nursery today so I can actually look after myself ! Anyone testing soon ? Good luck

OrangeFizz99 Wed 04-Dec-13 17:13:47

Im due on Monday so trying to hold out till Friday/Saturday for testing. Im really bad for early testing. Got a line with dd2 on a first response at 10dpo so I know it is possible!

My boobs are tingly and painful but properly are normally anyway but I just never notice!

BunnyBaby Wed 04-Dec-13 20:28:23

Bonzo - trying not to spot here too, but can't help it.. thinking is that more discharge, does my womb feel full.. etc.. etc.. It's almost like the wait for Christmas as a child but every fecking month.. Aaargh! It looked good for yesterday, hope you managed to action as appropriate?

Crumbs - My DH pretending it hard to perform but loving it really! TBH he doesn't get too many chances aside from baby making, and we both agreed going forwards we really need to introduce date night. I wouldn't be averse to calpol syringe if we were in dire straits (staying away / house guests) haven't mentioned, yet, giggling at the thought,, his face would be a picture! In our family too I have a cousin who married at 40 and had DC at 41, 43 and 45, so agree that perfectly doable :-)

Nordic / Orange - the suspense, fingers crossed that the magic lines appear for you :-)

My AF is due on the 13th so a while to go yet for me, and I try not to test until I'm 3 days late, but due to go to DH's christmas party that night, so may have my arm twisted then. Usually I spot the day before, so should have a good idea by the 12th..

bonzo77 Wed 04-Dec-13 22:14:32

bunny. Yes. action completed. He's at the football now, but is going to get jumped when he gets in, any minute now.... All my ovulation discomforts have gone (pains, bloating, low cervix), so need to get one more last go in during eggie's 24 hour life span.. Oh that's him at the door. byeeeee

bonzo77 Fri 06-Dec-13 14:51:26

Obviously I'm not symptom spotting. But I have a terrible cough. Just like the one I had while pregnant last. Which turned out to be pregnancy- induced asthma. Just sayin'. grin

OrangeFizz99 Sat 07-Dec-13 00:34:42

Oo very interesting symptom spot bonzo! Haven't heard of that one before.

Think I'm out this month, tested this am on a fr and got bfn. Was quite hopeful as very sore boobs but hey ho. Want af to come now so that next fertile window might be just BEFORE pils visit. Not keen on the syringe idea myself!

Cakecrumbsinmybra Sat 07-Dec-13 19:57:06

Sorry to hear that orange. We only managed it 3 times during this fertile period so I'm not that hopeful either. And part of me thinks if we can't fit in sex then we really can't fit in another child!

bonzo77 Sat 07-Dec-13 21:46:50

cake I do sometimes think a baby is less effort than the sex.

DS2 was 1 yesterday. Somehow the first birthdays feel like they are a more important anniversary for me, than anything to do with the baby. A year ago I was hobbling between my hospital bed and NICU, trying to express colostrum every 3 hours. The DS2 had been off CPAP for less than 24 hours and he was just starting to be fed via his naso-gastric tube (having been on a glucose drip). The nurses all saying what a big strong boy he was (compared to the teeny tiny "proper" prem babies). He progressed quicker than expected, and coped with every challenge. He pulled out his drip before they intended to remove the glucose therapy and coped with taking all his milk via the tube and bottle, then when he had a problem with his tube he managed to take all his milk from the bottle immediately instead.

I digress. Kind of. Because there's a reasonable chance I suppose that we'll go through all of this again if we have another one.

seasavage Sat 07-Dec-13 21:54:28

Hi. Yes me i have two daughters (school) and have recently married again. So TTC 3 starts jan (well, unless we get v festive)

OrangeFizz99 Sun 08-Dec-13 18:16:56

Af due today and not here yet. Tested just now and got ... Bfn. Boo!

Welcome sea.

bonzo77 Sun 08-Dec-13 19:55:26

Welcome sea.

orange you know you won't get a BFP unless it's FMU... Test in the morning? wink

Claryrocks Sun 08-Dec-13 20:07:22

Hi all,

Watching with interest. 36yo 1dd 1ds cycle 1. Thinking of abstaining this month so we avoid an August baby although think we'd be very lucky to get preg first month!

OrangeFizz99 Mon 09-Dec-13 06:58:10

Have decided to use my second fr test tomorrow am if no af today <attempting relaxed ttcer mode>

With both dds I got bfp s in the day before af due...

Anyone else in the results bit?

Hi claryrocks, that's my consolation, if I'm not pg then August isn't an ideal month anyway!

OrangeFizz99 Mon 09-Dec-13 07:01:24

bonzo - keep forgetting to say happy birthday to your ds2. Hope you all had a great day.

BunnyBaby Mon 09-Dec-13 13:52:53

orange - fingers crossed, perhaps you conceived later than you thought. I got a negative with ds2 as had to have a root canal, then got BFP a few days later

Bonzo - my gp said age not as bigger factor in fertility if you've been proven as fertile (ie had previous dcs), and more relevant if trying for dc1. Also age your mother went through menopause nay give clues. We have lots of 40+ mums in our family, and you and I gave several years to go to even get there. I'm optimistic for us all :-)

I've got 4 days to go till af (would usually spot in 3 days), and noticed creamy/Ewcm a few dpo, and for past 2 days creamy discharge has got more abundant but watery and a teeny tiny hint of yellow. Normally I dry up by one so trying my best not to symptom spot and madly looking into it all..also cat buried near my tummy at night.. We'll see!

I want to see a grad on this thread so good luck for those poas and fingers crossed for some sticky little Christmas babies xx

bonzo77 Mon 09-Dec-13 23:14:23

Thanks orange. He had no idea!

bunny Both my grandmothers had their firsts in their 30's. My mum had my youngest bro at 39 (conceived him at 38), and oy really entered menopause in her late 50's. But our obstetric histories are so different. She went into spontaneous labour at 42+1 with me, induced at 42 and 43(!) weeks with my brothers. High forceps with me, sneeze births with my brothers. Me?! A failed early induction with a crappy placenta, a mmc that wouldn't shift for about 8 weeks after it happened, then another crappy placenta. I discussed this with my mum. She reminded me that I get my genes from my father too, my maternal grandma had 2 CS's in the 1950's when they were not undertaken even as lightly as they are now, and the pregnancy takes some input from the father!

Symptoms.... Where to start? Cough. Generous CM... I really cannot work out when I ovulated. Charting pissed me off this month so I stopped when I got I'll as it just confuses things. If I believe the OPK I'm about 7 dpo. Sunday would be CD28. I guess though if AF hasn't appeared, I could test a week tomorrow.

bonzo77 Mon 09-Dec-13 23:15:26

God. I sound optimistic don't i?

Mmmbacon Tue 10-Dec-13 00:17:15

We are on the wait now, we have dd and ds the baby who is 2,
We are not trying but I needed a break from pill, dh knew this, we ended up having a big fight, didnt talk for two days and then had mad make up sex completely forgetting that I was not taking anything

Part of me is freaked out, god only knows how we would afford cc for 2, but ds would be only in fulltime creche with a new baby for a year or so,

The other part of me would love another baby, and the fact that we would find out christmas week has me hoping that I am,

I said to dh that I only realised that we went bare back last night and he.just laughed and petted my tummy,

Are we behaving like a couple of teenagers, we did get carried away last night, and I know the chances of us getting pregnant off a one nighter is slim, but it is still a big possibility especially when it took us only 3 months to conceive ds,

Feel like a silly twit, but needed to tell someone,

bonzo77 Tue 10-Dec-13 13:18:51

mmmmbacon. Welcome. If you do get a BFP there will be some envious ladies here. On a more serious note, what would you prefer to happen? (Don't say if you don't want to). And if you don't get pg will you start ttc? Difficult to know I suppose. I stopped the pill 8 months ago I think, because I felt it wasn't agreeing with me. Still no BFP, yet.

OrangeFizz99 Tue 10-Dec-13 13:25:25

oo mmbacon, don't know whether to say fingers crossed or not. At least you're aware of the possibility?

Another bfn this am with fr but still no af. Keep running off to the loo convinced its happened but zilch. My boobs hurt, like really stinging on and off and my tummy feels like its upset but both could be af I guess.

My mood is ridiculously good which is very weird as I get PMS for a day or two with af and for about a month with pregnancy smile

I am thinking not pg as bfn 14 dpo is surely impossible? Especially on a frer. Not normally late though. However being late not bad as would shift fertile window for next month to after pils visit.

I will stop the me me me now! Although, one last thing, I did just buy a three isofix seater car so I really do need to get pg again now!

bumbleandbumble Tue 10-Dec-13 14:05:08

does anyone else have a reluctant partner?

I feel really strongly about wanting number 3, but my husband keeps saying 2 is more than enough and worries about money and about feeling so tired all over again…but mainly about money.

Yes we are in a very fragile money situation, I am at home, desperately trying to find a decent paying job and he is not making much.

But we are getting too old and I am terrified once we are more secure, I won't be able to have more.

My mother had early menopause…is it hereditary? does anyone know?

woodhj Tue 10-Dec-13 14:29:53

Hi Ladies, posted last Saturday as TTC#3 and didn't dare do test in case negative.........well it was positive!!! yay.
Would of never of thought I was, was expecting to come on. So don't all be disheartened keep jumping on your man until the test makes you happy x x x

OrangeFizz99 Tue 10-Dec-13 16:15:15

Wow, congrats woodhj! How are you feeling?

Oo bumble, thats hard, dh was reluctant but now if anything he's more into the idea than I am! I tried to help him see all the positives and how exciting it could be.

BunnyBaby Tue 10-Dec-13 22:54:59

Just updated the list, so welcome also Bumble, Clary, Mmm and Sea!

So, so excited to be able to have a graduate.. Wood! Congrats, looking at your last post when you were late you must be about 6w along! How exciting.. how are you feeling? can you provide a run down of early pregnancy symptoms for us 2WW girlies? :-)

Bumble - Bonzo and I were discussing the fertility thing and it looks like it can be influenced by both sides of the family..

Here's to more BFP's, I think a few of us are due to POAS in the next few days.

Nighty night all!

TTC:

2lilGirls, 30yo, (2xDD), Cycle 5
Bonzo77, 36yo, (2xDS), Cycle 6
BunnyBaby, 37yo, (2xDS), Cycle 4
BumbleandBumble, ?yo, (?DC), Cycle?
Cakecrumbs, 38yo, (2xDS 7&3), Cycle 5
Cherieblossom, 35yo, (2xDC 5&3), Cycle 1
Claryrocks, 36yo, (DD & DS), Cycle 1
ELR 36yo, (DD11, DS8), Cycle 4
FlipFlippingFlippers, 28yo (2xDD 4&5), Cycle 2
Leons, 42yo, (DS6, DD3), Cycle 1
MmmBacon, ?yo (DD & DS2), Cycle 1
MrsW2809, 27yo, (DS & DD), Cycle no: 0! - coil due out in 9 days!
Nordicmom, 38yo, (DS8, DD1), Cycle 1

WTTC:

Seasavage, ?yo (2xDD), begins Jan

Graduates:

13/12/10 - Woodhj, 35yo (DS7, DD3) Cycle 4

OrangeFizz99 Wed 11-Dec-13 07:08:11

Af got me, I'm out. I'm never late and I have never had a 29 day cycle ever before. On to cycle 3!

Fingers crossed for all the others due to test soon!

BunnyBaby Wed 11-Dec-13 08:21:27

Oh orange, so sorry to hear this, I hope that you get an extra Christmas present this year, we are 14 days from Christmas today. envy

BunnyBaby Wed 11-Dec-13 08:21:59

Oh orange, so sorry to hear this, I hope that you get an extra Christmas present this year, we are 14 days from Christmas today. envy

OrangeFizz99 Wed 11-Dec-13 10:11:20

Well that's perfect timing then! smile

I am going to exhaust dh next month.

BunnyBaby Wed 11-Dec-13 13:59:24

You'll have a very happy DH!

I'm not sure what was going on with my last post, it doubled up and then posted a envy instead of the <3 I'd selected.. Damn iphone app x

bonzo77 Wed 11-Dec-13 14:04:10

Sorry to hear that orange. At least you'll be able to have a drink or 12 over Xmas.

bunny the iPhone app drove me bonkers. I'm using the mobile website on my phone instead. You can book mark it in safari then save it as an icon on your home screen. Works better for me anyway.

BunnyBaby Wed 11-Dec-13 23:04:28

Not sure what's going on with me . I was looking at the list, and orange was on it, and now isn't so adding back on..

My cut and paste skills are crappier than usual.. If I've missed anyone else off, it isn't intentional

Bunny x

2lilGirls, 30yo, (2xDD), Cycle 5
Bonzo77, 36yo, (2xDS), Cycle 6
BunnyBaby, 37yo, (2xDS), Cycle 4
BumbleandBumble, ?yo, (?DC), Cycle?
Cakecrumbs, 38yo, (2xDS 7&3), Cycle 5
Cherieblossom, 35yo, (2xDC 5&3), Cycle 1
Claryrocks, 36yo, (DD & DS), Cycle 1
ELR 36yo, (DD11, DS8), Cycle 4
FlipFlippingFlippers, 28yo (2xDD 4&5), Cycle 2
Leons, 42yo, (DS6, DD3), Cycle 1
MmmBacon, ?yo (DD & DS2), Cycle 1
MrsW2809, 27yo, (DS & DD), Cycle no: 0! - coil due out in 9 days!
Nordicmom, 38yo, (DS8, DD1), Cycle 1
OrangeFizz99, 33yo (dd1 3.8, dd2 21 months), Cycle 3

WTTC:

Seasavage, ?yo (2xDD), begins Jan

Graduates:

13/12/10 - Woodhj, 35yo (DS7, DD3) Cycle 4

Cakecrumbsinmybra Thu 12-Dec-13 07:09:19

Well bunny, you must be due to test?

Bumble, I am pretty sure that if your mother had an early menopause then you are likely to have one too - but obviously there are always exceptions to the rule. My mum started relatively early too, I need to ask her more about it as I'm not sure when. In answer to your other question, yes my DH was VERY reluctant earlier this year, when I first mentioned it. But now he feels the same as me, so your DH might just need a little time. Good luck.

Commiserations orange - tbh, I am 8dpo and again I have no symptoms whatsoever. I imagine I will have AF next month as usual. Ah well, maybe New Year, new BFP?

Cakecrumbsinmybra Thu 12-Dec-13 07:09:50

Congrats woodhj!

BunnyBaby Thu 12-Dec-13 12:51:17

Ooh Crumbs, I'm sticking my fingers in my ears going la-la-la (yes I'm due AF tomorrow).. but daren't even mention it..

Usually I would start spotting today, so will give an update later should that start happening.

My cat has been curling up initially on my tummy, but given restless DH in bed, the cat moves in the night from my tum to behind my legs and the last few mornings has been wedged up, on the top of the duvet (me underneath) right under my bum?! blush what a blush early pregnancy symptom if there ever was one?!

I can't decide what to have for lunch, very unusual for me, and have a few stretching feelings and white CM which is runny. Also constipated with sensitive nips,

However all except the CM and food confusion are usual PMS symptoms for me.

So, I'll have an idea if I start spotting later, and will test tomorrow AM if not as DH's christmas party and don't intend to get steaming drunk if I have precious cargo. On board, in which case I'll have to get used to a pet cat with an attraction for a warm derrier!

Catch you all later! x

woodhj Thu 12-Dec-13 14:09:47

My only symptom I noticed was my boobs seemed bigger, didn't hurt anymore but my coat pulled a bit when I did it up. As soon as I knew I was pregnant my boobs started to hurt in a different way to normal.
I never went off tea or coffee, I never went to the toilet more or felt sick!
It proves sometimes we look for symptoms when its far to early to even get them.
The only other thing that happened was a thick discharge (mucus plug forming) but even that I thought at the time was a normal but thinking about it it was different.

BunnyBaby Fri 13-Dec-13 06:25:18

So I tested today just now with a tesco cheapy one (the £3.50 for 2), there is a very faint second line that both DH and I can see. Usually I don't test until 3 days late so used to a strong second line.

I'll take it easy on the booze tonight (i.e. 1) and try again tomorrow.. Ahhh the suspense...

Anyone else in the same shoes?

bonzo77 Fri 13-Dec-13 06:44:11

bunny a BFP? Amazing. Congratulations!

BunnyBaby Fri 13-Dec-13 06:54:05

Thanks Bonzo, I'm still cautious as it's so faint, have uploaded to my profile.

Usually I only test when I'm 3 days late as have had negatives early on with DS2. Usually when testing when I'm late I get a very dark line.

The even more confusing thing is that my cycles have been a regular 26 days for the past year rather than 28. So I'm very happy there is something there, but want it to be darker.

Will test again tomorrow. bunny x

Cakecrumbsinmybra Fri 13-Dec-13 07:52:46

Wow, keep us posted!! You are definitely pregnant, so I hope it all goes well for you. Strange cat!!

bonzo77 Fri 13-Dec-13 09:53:50

With DS2 I tested 11 dpo, 3 days before AF was due. The line was very faint on an internet cheapie strip (too pale to show in the photo I texted DH). On a proper £££ FR it was more definite. I tested daily with cheapies and the line got darker for about 10 days. So I wouldn't get too hung up on the faintness. It's only just implanted so the HCG levels will be barely detectable.

Mmmbacon Fri 13-Dec-13 11:07:16

Bonzo and orange thanks for the messages of support, I would be delighted to be expecting again, financially it would be a strain but that aside I wou ld be absolutely thrilled as would dh,

I spent most of ds 2 years longing for a new baby but I think v that was mostly hormones as was bf for a long time, I had just starteds to feel or family was complete and stopping feeling jealous of other pg women and here I am back hoping for a bfp

OrangeFizz99 Fri 13-Dec-13 12:59:09

bunny! A lines a line!! Congrats!

BunnyBaby Fri 13-Dec-13 13:54:46

Thanks Orange!

Bonzo, Bacon, Cake - who's next to test?

I won't move to grads until I'm at least 5 days late as I think I have had other chemical pregnancies in the past (3 days late followed by heavy period).

Cakecrumbsinmybra Fri 13-Dec-13 15:55:14

AF not due until next Weds at the earliest...

bonzo77 Fri 13-Dec-13 23:34:07

AF due any time between Sunday and Wednesday. Intend not to test till Wednesday. Though my appetite is off and I've felt nauseous today on and off. But sometimes I do anyway.

BunnyBaby Sat 14-Dec-13 08:13:10

Bonzo and Cake, I'm very excited here for you, all my 'early preg symptoms' where just that!

Will be checking here daily to see when you begin your poas'ing.

I poas again this morning and the line is definitely darker, so feeling more 'positive'myself (pardon the pun!) xxx

Spottybra Sat 14-Dec-13 08:25:01

We are thinking about it but not sure. Dh is keener than I am. He is looking at starting s/e and bringing home in a day what he earns in a week of being employed. It is realistic, his days would also be shorter and he could return home every night.

However, I'm under no illusion it will be me doing everything, just with more disposable income to hand. He isn't home five nights a week as it is. We only downsized our car a year ago and another baby means another new car.

Ds and dd sleeping through the night now. Dd will be out of nappies next summer. They have a bedroom each. Days out don't revolve around feeding times anymore.

Another baby would be a dream but then I think about the cost as I have given all my baby things away.

OrangeFizz99 Sat 14-Dec-13 08:45:38

Woo woo yay bonzo! Was this one cycle 4 for you? Anything you did different?

Welcome spotty. I keep thinking about all the things ive given away too

bonzo77 Sat 14-Dec-13 10:11:11

orange oh god, not woo hoo yet, if at all. Unless you've had a premonition. I guess u meant bunny. I get very nauseous for all sorts of reasons. Largely because I cannot be arsed to eat meals then pick at soreen.

bonzo77 Sat 14-Dec-13 10:13:37

spotty could you get any stuff back? I'm sure if you "happen" to mention it, you'll get loads of hand me downs. And depending on the increase in income you might be able to pay for some help: cleaner, ironing, takeaways.

Spottybra Sat 14-Dec-13 10:31:18

We would scrape by, and we are both too proud to ask for help. We would certainly never ask our families again no matter how much we love them (long story there). I couldn't ask for my baby things back, some have gone to a teen mum who is due soon and others to charity shops or friends.

Congratulations to everyone though and good luck to those trying.

OrangeFizz99 Sat 14-Dec-13 13:47:02

Sorry yes meant bunny. Nauseous is good though.

I have decided today that even third time round I do not like ttc!

snowpink Sat 14-Dec-13 14:54:55

Hello all, I this might be the right place for me. Have two sons, 4 and 21 months, and fell unexpectedly pregnant a couple of weeks ago but sadly miscarried at 6 weeks. At least it helped us decide that we definitely want a third dc although it scares the hell out of me (sometimes can't even cope with two, difficult pregnancy and birth with ds2 and now the miscarriage...) but hoping to find lots of support here.

I promised myself I won't get obsessed with cycles etc this time so I won't find out that I'm pregnant a lot later on but don't think that will last long...

OrangeFizz99 Sat 14-Dec-13 19:13:08

Oh snowpink sorry to hear about the mc.

I think this is the place for you, welcome. It's not as busy as some ttc threads, probably because of all the children smile

We found the decision to have a third very hard bit now we have decided it feels very frustrating not to just be automatically pg!!

bonzo77 Sat 14-Dec-13 19:29:31

Welcome snowpink. Sorry for your recent loss. Nothing like a miscarriage to make you desperate for a baby IME. They sometimes say you're extra fertile after. Not sure if that's true.

This is a nice thread. All with children and some of us having had miscarriages and other complications in our obstetric histories. It's not all out rose tinted specs, but low key optimism.

redspottydress Sat 14-Dec-13 21:18:36

Hello! I'm interested in joining as we are thinking of TTC for the third time. I have twins who are 3 and a baby 18 months. I know I want another but worried about all the same things as you all! Will be good to talk about it.

snowpink Sat 14-Dec-13 21:22:58

Thanks for the welcome! Low key optimism is well put! I'm just glad it didn't happen as my first pregnancy, at least I do have two brilliant kids and they are a good distraction on top of it. And to be honest, I felt uncertain right from the start thinking statistically it had to be my turn at some point. I hardly know a mum who hasn't had a mc.
I just thought it was so funny when I was always the one trying to sway dh to have another (very reluctant) however when I tested positive I was so scared how we would manage and he came home completely happy saying "Do you know what, I always wanted three kids!" So at least it brought both of us on the same page.

bonzo77 Sat 14-Dec-13 23:01:06

snow i know what you mean. I'm also pleased my MC was not my first pg. I know so many people who's first pg ended in MC (and in one case a still birth). It takes away your innocence, I certainly did nothing but fret during my last pregnancy. I guess my next one will be the same. Interesting that you felt uncertain from the start. Subconciously knowing this one wasn't to be? I was soooo negative right from day 1 of the pg that I lost. And another friend was super negative about a pregnancy that ended in a still birth. That's a different person from the SB above. These tragedies are so frequent. Aren't i sweetness and light tonight?!

redspottydress too late to be interested in joining.... you're one of us now you've posted here! But it would be baby 4 for you... are you twins identical or not? If not, I'm sure you know it could be babies 4 and 5!

Now seriously. What is going on with all this CM? And I have had cramping on and off (mostly off) the last few days. I'm going mad thinking it's implantation. Probably just my mother's cooking. We went to hers last night for dinner, she did roast beef, I don't really eat much proper meat. I had implantation cramps each time in the past. TBH the timing is not good if I am pregnant. Oh well, we'll manage!

bunny post a photo of your pee sticks?

bumbleandbumble Sun 15-Dec-13 14:03:37

My statistics…

35 years old, two children, aged 2 and 3.

My husband is still saying No Way to number three. It really gets me down, I wish so badly that he was excited about it…even if now is not the right time, which I do think our money struggles is an issue.

actually I am happy to wait…but this damn biological clock and fertility early scares me…I to pregnant straight away both times but soooo many of my friends over age 35 are having MC after MC and I really do worry about my fertility lasting…

so envious of all you ladies with men who want three…please think about how lucky you are.

redspottydress Sun 15-Dec-13 18:07:50

Yes non identical twins, I think the risk of twins again is 1 in 12. I loved having twins, and I wanted another set until I had a singleton! I love having one baby although I think the twin relationship is very special. We're away on holiday next summer so we're waiting a couple of months before we start TTC. I'm 36 so don't want to leave it too long.

MissingMyMarbles Sun 15-Dec-13 19:24:25

Can I join in? I would love a third fgrin I am so broody it's untrue!! I have a rubbish obstetric history with mc's and high risk, complicated pregnancies, but through that I have two beautiful DD's. The little one is only 17 months so despite the broodiness, we do want to have a bigger age gap as there is between them. Besides, I'm still weaning off the breast and so haven't had a period yet, therefore pregnancy is unlikely at the minute.
Lovely to 'meet' you all.

snowpink Sun 15-Dec-13 19:28:05

Bonzo - any more symptoms? Or do you think the cramps were definitely caused by the beef?

Bumble - it's so difficult when you don't agree on dc3. Dc1 and 2 were no brainers for us but we discussed ttc for no 3 for months and financial security was very important for dh. But it's just not something you can compromise on, which makes it so bloody hard! Do you have any friends with 3 dc? To see how it works in real life helped my dh too I think.

Claryrocks Sun 15-Dec-13 20:44:26

Congratulations Bunny! My DS was a faint line about 21 days po and I'm a regular cycle girl. He's 3 now but we were so scared we'd lose him in those first fragile weeks. Good luck everyone. Nice to see lots wanting big families xxx

bonzo77 Sun 15-Dec-13 20:50:37

Welcome missing

snow we've several friends with 3, some with 4. Also, DH and I are both the oldest of 3, so 3 makes sense.

Hmmm, still no AF. Getting very mild intermittent cramps and the odd stabby pain that is not AF related. No diarrhoea either, despite my mother's cooking. I've had really bad ovulation pains every time I've ovulated from the time I came off the pill to ttc DS1. They are very stabby, last from CD 10 onwards, though are worst on the day I ovulate then tail off, stopping about 4 days before AF comes. It's bloody awful, needs painkillers. If we were not ttc I'd be on something to stop me ovulating it's that bad. Point is I'm still getting the odd twinge like that too. And with my 2 successful pregnancies I had crippling nausea (not vomiting) very early on, 11dpo with DS2. If this is it well have an 18 month gap, probably less as both mine were early. Eek. And DS2 is 1 and not crawling, let alone walking.

Cakecrumbsinmybra Mon 16-Dec-13 15:14:28

Interesting bonzo! Are you actually late then??

bonzo77 Mon 16-Dec-13 19:54:50

If I were just going by my average 28 day cycle, then yes late because Saturday was day 28. But if I assume 14 days from ovulation then no, because that would make AF due tomorrow. And my longest cycle ever was 34 days, which would be Friday. So I'd say realistically AF is due tomorrow. Fuck knows really. I went to the dr about this stupid cough, she thought not asthma but reflux (possible, I do have a history of it). She gave me a script for omeprazole but told me not to take it till I know I'm not pregnant! I'm going to try gaviscon in the mean time. Tbh I'm fed up today. Hmm, that sounds like pms though doesn't it?!

Hello ladies - can I jump on board?
34, DS1 5.11, DS2 2.2

DP was very reluctant but miraculously had a sudden change of heart recently. I've no idea where it came from! Last night he suggested waiting another year but I pointed out my age... time to conceive...age gap.... and I think I'm ovulating so he said - alright then - and we gave it a whirl! First step accomplished.

Fighting down feelings of panic grin - very hard pregnancies with nausea and exhaustion and my 2yo is a right bugger! Still bf and still in with us every night. I work three days and am also doing a degree in computing (very slowly!) It's good to know other people are worried about things too!

Really nice to see a couple of good news stories already. Hopefully some more good news for others over christmas?

Sorry to hear about your mc snow - fingers xd for you for the next time.

bonzo77 Tue 17-Dec-13 12:21:48

Bloody AF (excuse the pun) showed up. The bitch. Without any warning at all. No cramps yesterday, no major moodyness, no cravings, no weight gain. Wtf! Anyway, as I said to a friend, it'd be more convenient in about 6-12 months really.

BunnyBaby Tue 17-Dec-13 13:49:14

Oh Bonzo, sad sorry to hear that, though my last cycle may have been a symptomless one which surprised me, and then I got lucky this month.

Will be keep poping back in to celebrate the BFPs!

Love Bunny x

snowpink Tue 17-Dec-13 13:56:43

AF can be so random. I get the modyness too and dh was convinced last time I couldn't be pregnant as I was irritable as hell. But just wait for it bonzo, you'll probably get pregnant before 6 months are up when it's not so convenient! It's always like this...

Haveyoutried... I'm totally freaked out about how I'm going to manage another pregnancy with two little ones. I'm still breastfeeding too and co sleeping, that was admittedly also the case when I fell pregnant with ds2, but now I have a 4 year old as well (only in daycare between 9-12) and I'm a sahm so it's physically exhausting. But as you say, it's good to know that others are panicking too

Bad luck Bonzo It is always a horrible disappointment isn't it, however rational you try to be.

I'm sure there'll be some disappointments for me ahead too, I'm going to do my best to focus on that six months thing.... and think of all the things I can do when not pg!

Snow DS2 seems to be starting on his back molars. [MASSIVE SIGH] Kicking and screaming next to us in bed through the night and chewing my nipples..... really feel two years post birth is too late for sore nipples!

Oh btw - has anyone else had 2 CS? I have one EMCS and one ELCS behind me. Second section was horrible to recover from. Wish I had tried a VBAC now - was adamant there were giong to be no more than 2 children!

OrangeFizz99 Tue 17-Dec-13 18:23:36

Af is rubbish. Totally.

Wine bonzo?

bonzo77 Tue 17-Dec-13 18:48:48

Hi haveyou. I've had 2 CS. One emcs as they'd tried and failed to get me into labour for nearly 3 days and I was knackered and pissed off, with no reserves of energy or mind to deal with labour. The 2nd was semi-elective, in that I had 3 days notice, but no actual choice because DS2 was deemed in danger, too poorly to survive labour and they wouldn't induce after a CS anyway. Like you my second was worse than the first. The anaesthetist was awful, it took over half an hour to get the baby out, and he them went straight to NiCU. I'd be thinking seriously about a GA next time, though it'd mean DH would miss out too. You know you can still try for a VB after 2 CS. It's not common but people do.

Not sure about wine. Not that interested in it. But will start my meds for this supposed reflux and hopefully my cough will go away! And I get another month of horse riding.

MissingMyMarbles Tue 17-Dec-13 23:55:30

Ah stink, Bonzo. Can have a drink for Christmas though fwinkwine

Haveyou, I've had 2 c-sections; one emergency and one semi-emergency as in failed induction. That was second time around. They will induce after a c-section but it is kind of rare. I think that the fact mine were seven years apart, with no probs after the first, meant they would induce if poss. They would only let me have the pessary though and only gave it 12 hours. Nothing happened though so had to go for section. Both were pretty rough though, and I would definitely try for VBAC again.

I'm still breast feeding too, although she is in her own bed and doesn't feed overnight. Still waiting for AF though. Wish it would hurry up. Have a distinct cycle, with regular cramps and occasional mardiness but no bleeding yet.

Went to nativity at school today. So cute! There was a tiny baby in the audience though. He's only about 6 weeks - broody much!

MissingMyMarbles Tue 17-Dec-13 23:56:46

Sorry, Bonzo, missed your wine comment, but definitely yay for riding fgrin

Cakecrumbsinmybra Wed 18-Dec-13 09:35:30

Sorry bonzo. Same here though, AF started today sad, although as I said, out of all the cycles I would have been the most surprised if I'd got pg this month. So here's to some bfps in 2014.

haveyou, I had a EMCS, followed by a VBAC. To this day I still wish I'd had a ELCS! If I do have a third, there is no way I'd be giving birth 'naturally' again, I'll be demanding a ELCS!

Thanks for the responses. It's tricky. Realistically I can't see myself going for a VBAC but another CS does limit your future options a bit. I went into labour spontaneously with DS1 at 38 weeks but he was back to back (undiagnosed until cut open) and head very high which never descended, big head, small pelvis etc etc. Right - that's me decided!

bonzo77 Wed 18-Dec-13 13:07:06

I think with modern surgery, the number of CSs you can have is not as limited as in the days of vertical incisions. Especially if you have a reasonable gap between them. After my last one I asked if I was ok to have another. The surgeon said "best to wait till you're off the operating table"!

OrangeFizz99 Wed 18-Dec-13 14:27:20

Sorry to hear that for you too cake.

Yes yes yes to lots of 2014 bfps.

That's our NYE resolutions sorted then I guess..!

snowpink Wed 18-Dec-13 20:56:12

Orange, totally on board with this New Years resolution !

I got to hold a 10 day old baby today! Made me feel broody but her mum looked a bit knackered so not looking forward to the immediate post birth period...

bumbleandbumble Thu 19-Dec-13 10:00:40

has anyone thought they had trouble coming off birth control pills?

my loestrin makes me not even have a period most months and i am wondering when I convince my hubby for number three if it will take a long time to even ovulate…get periods back?

have anyone here come off birth control and got back to normal easily?

bonzo77 Thu 19-Dec-13 20:44:16

bumble I got pg with DS1 immediately after stopping the pill, after about 12 years of taking it continuously. After ds1 I went back on it for 6 months, then off for 7 before getting pg again. After ds2 I went in it again for about 6 months , off now for 6 months and nothing. Though my periods have come back both times and are fairly regular. I'm sure it's different for everyone, and certainly for me, changes with time.

bonzo77 Thu 19-Dec-13 20:45:43

*sorry, by nothing I mean no BFP. I think I'm ovulating, and have done since cycle 1 off the pill.

OrangeFizz99 Fri 20-Dec-13 16:16:08

I was on cezarette before dd1. When I stopped it I had six weeks, then a period, then caught with dd1 in the second cycle and got a bfp on cycle day 25 I think (likely to have been 11-12 dpi I think).

When I tried to go back on it post dd1 I bled continually and my gp took me off it.

stinkypants Fri 20-Dec-13 18:16:49

hello
ttc no. 3 since August and period is 4 days late.... not going to test until a week late though, if get that far!! had miscarriage before ds1 and ds2 so not even thinking too optimistically... but a teeny bit hopeful!!

Ooh good luck stinky!

bonzo77 Sat 21-Dec-13 14:42:38

well, I'll be hopeful for you then stinky

Can anyone explain why I am getting occasional "ovulation" pains on CD5, and had them on CD3? Clearly not ovulation! Very short period and feeling like crap. If I didn't know better I'd say I was pregnant! I reckon I'm full of adhesions after 2 CSs, hence all the aches and pains. Bet its not doing my fertility any good. Oh, aren't I full of cheer today?!

have cheered myself up by ordering this and this. found a 10% off code, and tis free delivery and returns if they're no good.

OrangeFizz99 Mon 23-Dec-13 10:57:20

Nice bit of retail therapy bonzo, always helps!

I was feeling like that when I was late, turns out one of the little monsters has a tummy bug so it was actually that.

Umm, stinky - POAS!!! What a lovely Xmas pressie that would be.

CD13 today, we have been did every other day so far this cycle so now important to keep it up for the next week! DH needing lots of encouragement at the moment, given thats it the only bit of the reproduction process he is needed for its a bit galling but there we go. In the name of dtd I even curbed my moaning about mil during the pils visit this weekend. I am an actual angel smile

snowpink Mon 23-Dec-13 12:47:01

Yes stinky any news??

I actually had a few drops of blood this morning so either it's AF (which would be good, at least my cycles are back on track after mc) or an implantation bleed, but I don't dare being that optimistic. Either way it's good news.

bonzo77 Mon 23-Dec-13 14:10:57

stinky, well......?

snow, I agree, good news. Though I have to say, the month my cycles went back to normal after my mc and erpc was the month I got pg with DS2....

orange good work DTD every other day, definitely agree that you need to keep it up for a week after ovulation. So to speak. God, in laws. Don't get me started. Mine are just intensely irritating and thoughtless, rather than intentionally horrid. Still avoid them like the plaque.

CD7 here, so need to start thinking about shagging again. I expect to be ovulating somewhere around NY. Which is a pain as DH has agreed to some ridiculous plan involving communal living, people I don't know, £400, a long drive and 2 nights with away. I said no from the start and he agreed anyway. So I've said he can go with DS1 (who is likely to sleep and enjoy it), and I'll stay home with the baby.

MissingMyMarbles Mon 23-Dec-13 18:44:56

Evening allsmile

Ooh interesting things afoot with people's cycles. Christmas bfp's would be exciting! Amazingly, I am on cd3!! First one since giving birth to dd2! She's now 17 1/2 months, which means it's the first one in over 2 years! We can genuinely start think about a third. So, whilst I feel like poo, I am glad it's here.

stinkypants Mon 23-Dec-13 18:52:56

Hello again...
Thanks for your interest! And... It's good news! 2 bfp tests. Can hardly believe it. So think that means I am 5 weeks pregnant.
am happy to share any details that may be of interest! ! Just going to read through the rest of this thread as only read the beginning and end bits so far.

OrangeFizz99 Mon 23-Dec-13 19:06:39

Whoop whoop stinky! Congratulations, what a lovely Xmas surprise.

stinkypants Mon 23-Dec-13 20:33:19

Have now read through all- thought I'd add a few details in case of interest.
38 yo, ds 4 and ds 3, 4 th cycle successful.
Early preg symptoms were/are:
-No spots when normally get them- in fact skin looking fab!
-Being intensely ticklish so when dh tries to be amorous I just laugh
- slight nausea esp when think of food and needing to
swallow constantly
- heavy feeling like period about to start
- boobs big but not sore
-falling asleep on sofa
Good luck to everyone, how it happened for us this month was just lots of dtd - daily for about 5 days! ! Not easy but just wanted to conceive before I turn 39 and was the last chance for that. Will be an August bday though, all being well.

bonzo77 Mon 23-Dec-13 21:04:18

stinky grin.

snowpink Mon 23-Dec-13 21:47:42

Stinky woohoo!! Congratulations!! I hope it all goes well.

I'm spending the night in the fucking hospital with ds2, he fell off his highchair and needs to stay in for observation in case of concussion. I think he's fine and I'm glad it didn't happen on Christmas Day but still!

And dh forgot to bring me tampons in case my period starts!

stinkypants Mon 23-Dec-13 23:42:52

Oh no! Hope he's ok and that u both get some sleep! Agree, at least not tomorrow night.

Mmmbacon Mon 23-Dec-13 23:49:34

Well no visit from af yet and its officially 2 weeks for us, so off to the chemist with me in the am if nothing over night,might be a wonderful christmas present for us yet, af a bit irregular here, so g to get a fr test as I think they are most accurate for testing early, so should be able to detect a bfp two weeks after unprotected sex shouldn't it???

snowpink Tue 24-Dec-13 14:36:09

Thank god ds and I are back home again I just need to get back into the Christmas spirit! AF arrived too properly while in hospital, thank God the nice nurse gave me some sanitary towels.

Bacon - exciting stuff! When are you going to POAS?

MissingMyMarbles Tue 24-Dec-13 18:39:22

Wooooooohooooooo, Stinky!!!!!! fgrin

Any news, Bacon?

Glad LO ok, Snow. Booooo for periods over Christmas.

Mmmbacon Tue 24-Dec-13 19:52:07

Hi snow glad your little one is ok,

No news here, no af, but did buy a 3 pack of cb, weirdly the chemist I went to, (15 miles away lol) was out of fr tests so I was wondering how many people were buying them up in order to test over the holidays

will update with news tomorrow some stage, going to poas first thing in the morning after santa has arrived,

Claryrocks Wed 25-Dec-13 21:18:10

I only got a positive this morning!!! What an amazing Christmas present. Weren't even meant to be trying properly until next month so had left it until a 5 days after what I thought would be the danger zone!!! Period due on Christmas Eve and became suspicious when a hot bath made me light headed and wine made me feel sick!!! Can't believe it!!! Fingers crossed all fine. Good luck everyone else xxx

Mmmbacon Thu 26-Dec-13 10:30:09

Congratulations, what an amazing christmas present,

well to update I poas yesterday and it was a bfn, weirdly wsnt disappointed our relieved so not sure what that means, thn got af at around half 5,

Wil be talking to dh to see are we properly going try in the new year, but fur now I had a lovely bottle of chardonnay all tomyself yesterday, and have plans for new years eve, santa have us all wonderful presents amd ds was most excited about the little pack of buttons he got in his stocking which was hilarious, happy to have our little family happy and v healthy and looking forward to the he year,

Best of luck to all still on the 2ww and merry christmas,

Nordicmom Thu 26-Dec-13 23:25:13

Haven't been writing lately sorry . Af arrived mid dec and have now just tried again in the second cycle . BFP due around 8.1. I think so on the dreaded 2 ww again. Not feeling positive at all due to past experiences and will try not to think about it until then . Crazily symptom spotting last time though so don't know if I can . Merry Christmas to all . Hope you've had a lovely time ! And congrats to all lucky ones with recent BFP!!!

OrangeFizz99 Fri 27-Dec-13 07:08:35

Yay for claryrocks! That's mighty lucky missing out on ttc totally!

Nordicmum - my af is due on the 8.1. Think I Ov d yesterday....

Glad to hear you're feeling ok with the bfn mmmbacon.

Happy Christmas everyone

BunnyBaby Fri 27-Dec-13 11:14:31

Sticking my head around the door, congratulations Clary! And FX for everyone else x

clara85 Fri 27-Dec-13 20:51:51

just found this thread and has been great to read... we are still debating ttc no 3 , some days I cannot imagine anything worse now we are through the baby days which i found hard, but stopped taking pill 2 months ago to see what happens - took 18 months to concieve ds1 and only 2 weeks after stopping pill to concieve ds2 which was a slight shock!

15 month gap between ds1 ( just turned 3 ) and ds 2 ( 22 months ), 1 emergency c section and 1 elective, hospitals in general scare me and the thought of walking into the operating theatre again petrifies me although not as much as going through a 5 day labour with ds1 being back to back and getting to 9cm before being told c section lol

worries for having a 3rd mainly around money, cars, no bedroom space, both ds's bad sleepers and i work late shifts and cant afford much mat leave... but with all that i simply dont feel finished and would rather have a small a gap as possible as it already feels massive compared to my current gap smile I think im mad and just so used to being obsesed with getting pregnant its not secnd nature, and as pp said DH has tentativley agreed to unprotected sex purely to get more !!!

Congratulations Clary! How fantastic, what a lovely christmas surprise.
Welcome Clara. As you will have seen a lot of us are in the slightly petrified camp!
AF is due on Monday and am planning to POAS on Tuesday (just so I know if I can drink properly that night!) otherwise I wouldn't bother. Only cycle 1 for us and tbh it was a bit of a half hearted attempt grin

snowpink Sat 28-Dec-13 17:54:19

Congratulations clarys!

Clara tbh I'm totally petrified! Just today I thought will I be able to go through pregnancy again (my births have been ok ish), I'm very bad at coping with the worry and am so so nervous let alone the exhaustion.

I just finished my first period post miscarriage so this will be our first proper lets try for a baby cycle but I'm still far off taking temperature etc. I think we'll just have lots of unprotected sex for now.

clara85 Sat 28-Dec-13 20:51:54

good luck for Tuesday HaveYou, the one benefit of getting a BFN will be you can have a drink at new year smile

fingers crossed snowpink, sorry to hear of your mc. I used the clearblue fertility monitor when TTC both times before and it was brlliant , also took b12 vits and natures own clomid soy isoflavens for DS1 and got preg 2nd month using them , i cant seem to just stay relaxed hehe

so nice to hear im not alone in being scared of another another, all our friends have 2 with no desire for a 3rd so its hard to talk to anyone about. I forgot to say I had terrible SPD in both pregnancies with crutches from 20 weeks so the thought of that with 2 toddlers plays heavily on my mind and does make me think sticking at 2 is by far the easier option!

snowpink Sun 29-Dec-13 08:19:27

Clara, I think I'm only relaxed for the first three cycles max and then I'll get some ovulation sticks too. Luckily I fell pregnant both times easily, just kept track of my cycle days but you never know, not getting any younger. I've never had SPD thankfully and can't even imagine the pain! Is this something like you're bound to get in every pregnancy?

Girlsville Mon 30-Dec-13 16:33:10

Hi all can I join the thread. Just fallen preg with my third.......v nervous and v excited!

Welcome and congrats Girlsville!

Am really nervous about poas tomorrow. .... af was due today. Told dp I was going to and he paled! Said it was just precaution before tomorrow night......

BFP! Eeek!!! I really can't believe it...

Poor dp...... he's going to be going pale again. We did agree to try but only on the basis it would take months. We DTD once
. It's his birthday this morning. .... oh god.
Still sleeping like a baby next me with ds2.
My phone is buggering about with mumsnet and we're off on holiday for a few days so good luck to anyone else at the end of their cycle..... and happy new year, may the end if 2014 see lots more babies.

OrangeFizz99 Tue 31-Dec-13 10:02:16

Wow congrats everyone with bfps! Brilliant news!

Happy new year to everyone - pretty sure I'll be snoring away well before midnight!

clara85 Tue 31-Dec-13 21:39:52

congras gurksville and have you smile great start to the new year ! when is your due date? how did your dh take the news?! xx

Girlsville Wed 01-Jan-14 13:05:13

I think due date is 12 September. Eek! We have a 15 month age gap between dd1 and 2 and are in a really nice stage now. Dh is pleased but a bit nervous as to how it will affect things!

Just checked -8th sep. Was sure it would be a late aug bday so that's good news I guess! Though with elcs and ds1 came at 38 weeks so will need to be carefully timed!
Dp was fine..... calm. Though he is far from himself! Wewere ao busy lleaving the house yesterday morning it only sunk in half way along the m4.
Well, am 4+2 or something like that. Already had my first daytime nap and just tasted the boys pasta and pesto - it tasted so awful, like paraffin or something, sobitter and still got the taste in my mouth (3 adults all tasted and said was fine) so..... early start to symptoms....

OrangeFizz99 Sun 05-Jan-14 15:15:43

I might be the same have! Faint bfp this am, should it stick around I'd be due 18.09. I get induced at 38 weeks as have a blood disorder so we'd have very simular edd.

How are your symptoms?

V quiet here at the moment!

clara85 Sun 05-Jan-14 21:01:42

OMG.....what is going on in this thread? i am very nervously saying i got a bfp tonight and too scared to tell dh even tho he saw me buy the tests .................... due date would be 20th sept but i would have my section at 39 weeks same as last tie i assime... i am in shock and cant believe theres so many of us having bfp's this week?!

clara85 Sun 05-Jan-14 21:04:14

i have had cramping all day and felt very emotional the other day although thought i was ony 10dpo today so too early for syptoms :S

the thought of having a 3.9 year old, 2.5 year old and baby is surreal !!!

Girlsville Sun 05-Jan-14 22:28:19

Congrats Clara! I can't begin to imagine what life with three will be like......

clara85 Mon 06-Jan-14 07:27:21

Me nether girls ville... its the sleepless nights, carrying car seats, being carried everywhere, I would want a new double pram as both ds's still use a pram now to keep them contained while out shopping...

I am honestly worrying ive made a mistake and how will we cope with this when things are so much easier now :S

Girlsville Mon 06-Jan-14 09:42:36

I know the feeling! My dds are just playing so nicely together and am trying to picture what it will be like with the third!
But dh and I have always wanted 3 and thought it was better to get allthe early years out the way while we are in the mindset. Think much harder to go back to a newborn if you have much older children.

clara85 Mon 06-Jan-14 10:02:21

thats true and why we wanted small gaps, I think i found a 15 month gap easy in alot of ways as ds1 was still a baby and had only started walking 3 weeks before ds2 was born ..... but now ds1 and 2 are proper toddlers it seems like a different thing altogether!

when are you going to see the dr / mw? I think last time i went at about 5 weeks to make sure scan booked in time etc but again it just feels so weird to be thinking pregnancy dates and times again!!

OrangeFizz99 Mon 06-Jan-14 10:21:42

Have you told dh clara?

Congrats by the way!

I had another slightly less faint line this am in the proper timeframe so I guess a line is a line... DH seems slightly shellshocked! Did say a ds would be nice though!

It is weird to be back to this again, my girls will be 4.5 and 2.5 if all goes well and this baby arrives in Sept. I hate pushchairs, highchairs etc and the nearly two year old doesn't use any of those now... Oh, and the sleep...!

Wow - even more Congrats due! It's the thread to be on. Excellent news Clara and Orange.
Not so tired at the moment but fairly short of breath and racing heart. Palpitations is my thing grin Also feeling the reduced caffeine intake and going to have to hide all the christmas chocs - I had gestational diabetes last time so want to avoid too much sugar.
Other than that.. feeling fairly nervous and uncommital, keep googling statistics. Fingers crossed for everyone.

Uncommital? You know what I mean.... we told the couple we were staying with over new year as they are really good friends and we didn't want any awkward questions. Except my friend's DP just didn't get it and kept asking questions like when are you going on maternity leave? shock And despite the fact DP really obviously didn't want to talk about it - so are you hoping for a girl or boy? Just what you don't want. So now we're home we very definitely aren't telling anyone else and it feels nice that it's a secret again.

OrangeFizz99 Mon 06-Jan-14 13:18:25

We're not telling anyone yet, will tell our parents in the next couple of weeks I guess. I reckon when you have two of one sex and are pg the 'girl or boy' gender pressure is going to be mental. Grr.

I know - dreading those questions! With 2 DSs everyone will assume we're desperate for a girl.....

OrangeFizz99 Mon 06-Jan-14 15:20:37

Opposite here! I can here the 'poor dh, his world will be so pink, he'll need a shed etc' already. Yawn.

OrangeFizz99 Mon 06-Jan-14 15:21:06

*hear

radiatormesh Mon 06-Jan-14 18:09:51

I'm joining! Congrats on all the BFPs so far.

I have a 3.5yr old, a 10m old and we just started trying this cycle (although I'm still BF so my cycles are totally all over the shop and who knows if I even ovulated....). If I did, I reckon I'm about 2/3DPO, and am obviously already having symptoms wink

Am trying hard not to obsess about it, but it's not going so well... grin

Winterbluessummersoonish Mon 06-Jan-14 20:02:29

Congrats on BFP's amazing news,

Orange- I am so with you on high chairs and push chairs etc - we did proper bed at 18 months etc - I love the toddler bit but baby bit is hard - I also have 4.5 and 2.5...

I was expecting an amazon parcel all day with a first response test in and then about 4pm I checked and it was still in my shopping basket, I was sad as was aiming to test in the morning.

I have ordered a clear blue which will come tomorrow afternoon, it will be day 27 so will test then and again morning of 28...

Really hope it is a BFP as want 3 and had a MMC last year, but this is looking like a positive thread to be on...!

BunnyBaby Mon 06-Jan-14 20:32:26

Clara & Orange - congrats! Whoop whoop!

Just had an early scan today due to a few teeny spots of pink and blood, and have a very healthy baby in there, 7 weeks today, with a strong heartbeat :-)

Bonzo - how are you?

Love Bunny x

OrangeFizz99 Mon 06-Jan-14 21:03:14

Yay bunny brilliant news, spotting must have been a hit scary though.

Is there a pg with no 3 ante natal thread yet?

That would be good... had a quick look in the september antenatal thread (or it might have been august...?) anyway they were discussing the best bubble baths for mothers to be... No such luxuries for us eh!

clara85 Tue 07-Jan-14 09:54:41

sounds like we all have similar small age gaps and 2 sons! told DH last night and he seems more accepting than I am, still cant belive it . Did a 2 year out of date FR test this morning and lines came up right away!

What kind of car do you all have? We will need to change to a 7 seater as will have 3 kids in stage 1 seats sad also startng to look at prams as we currently have the city jogger GT double and single which are excellent but I would rather have parent face and carrycot for the baby so may look at going back to the icandy peach x

Am i right in thinking one of you ladies also has had 2 sections?

clara85 Tue 07-Jan-14 09:57:42

oh and need an update I think that 4 of us all pg?

Orange
Bunny
Have you
Bonzo

?? I am rubbish at using this forum im much used to others which seem alot easier to reply on smile

clara85 Tue 07-Jan-14 10:00:35

forgot girlsville smile

OrangeFizz99 Tue 07-Jan-14 10:11:46

I have two girls!

I just got a Citroen c4 Picasso which I love and which has 3 isofix places so we should be ok car wise. Bedrooms worrying me more. Well have to convert the storage cupboard into dd1s room and make one big bedroom for the dd1 and 2 to share and then baby can have dd2s smaller room. Number three is much more complicated logistically and I can't even begin to think how we'll work childcare!

OrangeFizz99 Tue 07-Jan-14 10:12:46

Also I have to do twice daily heparin injections when pg. should start then soon I guess-bleurgh!

I've had two sections Clara. Planning on making it 3 I think.

and it was Stinky, not Bonzo.... though not heard from her for a couple of weeks.

inadreamworld Tue 07-Jan-14 10:44:50

Feel like you OP, want a 3rd but v happy with the two lovely girls we already have 2.8 and 11 months. Not into all this scientific fertility charting stuff (too stressful) just regular sex and wait and see! Everyone thinks we must be desperate for a boy but I had a dream we had a 3rd girl which I would be absolutely happy with (may actually prefer as got used to girls now....!)

Good luck to everyone.

Squeakybeaky Tue 07-Jan-14 11:01:11

Hi, I'm new here and ttc number 3. I have a 6 year old and 3 year old who I fell quickly with both times but who knows smile

bonzo77 Tue 07-Jan-14 15:20:02

welcome to newcomers: I think I've missed a few as been off the radar for a while. Just usual stuff of busy with NY / school holidays.

looks like I've missed quite a few BFPs too while AWOL. Congratulations to you all. Summer babies here they come! I don't envy you doing the last month or 2 in high summer though.

orange how come's you are on heparin? I was on aspirin last time and it made no difference to the outcome (emergency early delivery due to placental failure). Pathology on the placenta showed no clots, so I'm hoping they don't put me on the heparin if get pregnant. Though I was told to take aspirin again as soon as I get a BFP.

bunny that early scan is magical isn't it? That little flicker which in less than 8 months will be in your arms. Bleeding would scare me crazy... i'm a BIG worrier. Did you go private or to EPAU?

Feeling a bit pissed off that I'm not pregnant, as this is the longest I've been without contraception for. Slightly irregular cycles. I really need to get my act together and chart properly, i.e. temps, to see if I am ovulating, though my cycles are regular enough to suggest that I am. Anyway, we are going for a strict DTD every other day routine from end of period to start of next. Frankly its exhausting!!! I'm sure that the last 2 times I was pregnant it was because we kept going after ovulation, which makes not a lot of sense biologically. I know that it'd be better if I got pregnant a bit later in the year for practical reasons, but whatever. And my SIL and my brother had their baby on friday. A girl.

clara no, definitely not pregnant! Though who knows, we've definitely made the effort this month and I suppose I'm in the 2WW now, AF due any time between next thursday (16th) and the following monday (20th). I think quite a few of us have had 2 sections, me included. I have a friend who has had 4. My understanding is that the more you have the greater the risk of uterine rupture (but pretty rare anyway, and more so if you do not labour), and of needing an emergency hysterectomy during the CS. I just remember it felt like it took them hours to open me up last time. I didn't have a good time at all with the anaesthetic either. I'd love a general but I can't imagine I'd get it.

I think we need a bit of a stats update. I'll do my best but do copy and paste and edit as you see fit. It's too depressing to put number of cycles etc in for me......

TTC
Bonzo
squeakybeaky
inadreamworld
winterbluessummersoonish
radiatormesh
snowpink
nordicmum
mmmbacon
missingmarbles

Pregnant
orangefizz
stinky
haveyourtriedarewardchart
clara85
bunny
girlsville

Go, someone lift me out of this funk!

Girlsville Tue 07-Jan-14 17:01:29

Hello all
So many bfps!

I have a 15 month age gap between my two dds. If all goes well they will be 4.7 and 3.4 when no 3 arrives.
I haemorrhaged after both previous labours so am nervous about that side of it, and that the baby would be due around the week dd1 starts reception!

If you're lucky Girlsville!!.... many schools really drag out the settling in and stagger entry. When DS1 started reception his first week was second week of October shock

Bonzo - it will happen! Soon.

I feel so incredibly lucky this happened but still think of the things I can't do, or how many weeks I have left before I become incapable (about 1 I think grin). So - focus on all the things you can do.

OrangeFizz99 Tue 07-Jan-14 18:17:32

Bonzo - chin up it will happen! We dtd every day for two weeks this month continuing past when I would normally stop. You could ask gp for a check up to put your mind at rest.

I take baby aspirin and heparin when pregnant as I have aps syndrome and have had severe clotting incidences in my twenties. I consider myself very lucky to have found out before ttc no 1 and therefore on drugs straight away.

The injections are really quite sore though. To be on them when you're not sure it's your problem would really suck.

OrangeFizz99 Tue 07-Jan-14 18:18:50

Girlsville - snap, my dd1 would be starting reception when the baby was born too if all goes to plan!

Kirsty770 Tue 07-Jan-14 20:01:02

Hi,

I have been lurking on this thread for a while as had mirena removed in November, then bled on and off for 2 weeks as they struggled with removing it, I put it down to that, we DTD every day I wasn't bleeding then tried to every 2-3 days following that as had no idea where I was up to, tested over Christmas and got a really faint BFP on Saturday, they remained faint, waiting until tomorrow to test again, hoping it will be darker. Had symptoms from about Christmas Day, so not sure how far on I am but suppose its about 3-4 weeks. Wasn't expecting it to happen so soon. I have 2 boys already aged 5 and 3, think my due date is round about my eldest birthday but have been induced 2 weeks early both times due to GD. Already trying not to eat much sugar or fat or put on much weight, worried might not get rid of it afterwards. My partner is starting a new job, so looking at another car, was looking at a piccanto but now considering a mireva! Not rung the midwifes as think they only come to the surgery on a Tuesday, when I'm at work and don't want them to know yet. I had a mc before my first child and bled at 6 with both boys, so waiting to see if that happens again. Good luck to everyone. I'm already suffering with loads of symptoms.

Winterbluessummersoonish Tue 07-Jan-14 20:01:59

So I stupidly test tonight on a clear blue that came in the shopping at 7pm and it was negative. I should have waited for the morning but when I have tests in the house I am compelled to use them in some strange way! Anyway it is cycle day 28 tomorrow and my cycles are 26 to 30 so will try first thing, although apart from sore boobs no symptoms and with other two boys - I have convinced myself I knew by now sad

Aghhhh will update tomorrow morning with test results. As I already have two children, I know rationally I should be grateful and try not to obsess but it is so hard not to feel a bit aghhh, also as I had the MMC last year I feel a bit more stressed that it may not happen...

After reading your posts, going to google baby aspirin...

MolotovCocktail Tue 07-Jan-14 20:47:40

Hi, I've just discovered this thread and would like to join in, please smile I've been posting on other boards here but this seems more the place, from bonzo's OP.

We have 2 beautiful dds aged almost 5yo and 20mo. They both took a while to conceive; dd1 naturally after 9m and dd2 two years and 6 cycles of clomid.

DH started saying around dd2's first birthday in April last year that he would like another baby. I've not been too sure about it (mainly due to the stress of conceiving dd2). It's the practical things mentioned on this thread that make me worry - as well as the issue that I'd have another ELCS (assisted vaginal delivery wih dd1, ELCS with dd2).

Yet thoughts of another newborn to love and cuddle are becoming more prominent ...

MolotovCocktail Tue 07-Jan-14 20:50:21

To those of you who have had two ELCS: how was the 2nd compared the first? How did your body fare second time?

I only have the scar, no overhang, no other issues. Just wondering if I'd be so lucky if there is another!

Squeakybeaky Tue 07-Jan-14 22:11:43

I have just read through all of the posts which has taken me an age! Feel as though I'm up to speed now thoughsmile congrats to all the recent BFPS!!!

I am on cd 13 of a 28 day cycle so am going for it this week smile I'm on,y on cycle 1

I love hearing of people's BFPS who is testing next?

snowpink Tue 07-Jan-14 22:40:21

Congratulations to all bfps and welcome to all newcomers!
Sorry would post more often but my mumsnet app keeps crashing, very annoying.

snowpink Tue 07-Jan-14 22:43:23

I think I'm in the fertile days at the moment, dtd over the weekend but it's so hard to find the time during the week when dh comes home at 10.30 pm or later and the kids wake up at 6! So unless my fertile over a weekend or holiday, it's looking a bit bleak

OrangeFizz99 Tue 07-Jan-14 22:57:00

Sorry, every OTHER day. Just the thought of every day makes me feel faint.

Fingers crossed for ovulation at weekends for you snow!

OrangeFizz99 Tue 07-Jan-14 23:06:21

Started an ante natal ttc no 3 thread just now

Hi molotov. My second section (elcs, first was emcs) was way harder to recover from. Maybe just chance, maybe cause it was a bit of a rush as crash call just as they were starting. Or maybe due to what my community midwife loved to refer to as my "pendulous abdomen" (said in broad Jamaican drawl PENDULOUS abdomen......) The resulting devastation (overhang, drooping stomach and crepey skin) is a bit worse than first time round but not much.

MolotovCocktail Wed 08-Jan-14 10:54:38

Thanks for that Reward smile

I'm almost 31 - I was 29 when I had the dd2. I'm pretty trim and a healthy weight but tummy has softened since dd2! I like it; feels more 'womanly' somehow but I do wonder how I'd here fare after another pg/CS.

The decision whether to have another is strange compared with our first 2 - bonzo summarised the feelings perfectly in her OP.

I really enjoyed having dd2 to myself whilst dd1 was at nursery. That gives me to at least December this year to decide ...

It is a preferable situation to be in: I was desparate for dd1 and literally ached for dd2. Another baby would be a lovely bonus, I think. I just don't know when to start playing the conception lottery because I don't get pg quickly! grin sad

MolotovCocktail Wed 08-Jan-14 10:55:21

And not nice to be described as 'pendulous!' What a cheek!

MolotovCocktail Wed 08-Jan-14 10:59:31

The thought of having a son is lovely; another girl would be wonderful, too. We would have our own 'three graces' smile

And it's thoughts like this thar jar against certain practical thoughts hmm

Link to Orange's antenatal thread

Hopefully lots more can come and join over the next few months!

BunnyBaby Wed 08-Jan-14 22:15:18

Bonzo, you'll be with us before you know it! The first month of DTD every other day did the trick for me! (though the thought of it was so tiresome).

It was the tiniest spots, but as I never had even that with DS1, DS2 or my MMC it made sense to get it checked. All is now well and pootling on. The EPU were slow, and I didn't want work to know so had a private scan which was great as evening, and lovely obstretician did it which was reasurring.

I shall pop my head around orange's spanky new thread.

In honesty, despite dreading the return to work, it has been easier than a week in during the pouring rain of last week, with flooded playgrounds and DS1 - 6 and DS2 - 3 literally bouncing off the walls.

So, I shall keep popping back to check, and want to drag you all over to the antenatal thread ASAP..

Lots of babydust, love Bunny x

sj257 Thu 09-Jan-14 13:18:14

Hi girls, not posted for agggges.....my first period after stopping Cerazette turned up on the 11th of December....it had taken 9 weeks to appear!!!

Now I'm confused about whether or not my cycle is back to normal? If it was then I should have got my AF yesterday....but nothing....

Would have to be a miracle as we have only done the deed once this month :-/ possibly around cycle day 10/11?

hmm!!

sj257 Thu 09-Jan-14 13:19:11

oh and congrats to everyone with a BFP smile

snowpink Mon 13-Jan-14 06:28:30

I'm going to the Gyn today to have a scan, just to make sure everything is alright after the mc (I actually didn't go to the doctors after it happened as they are very quick here with d&c and I already had more than enough of those)
Otherwise I think I'm the 2ww now, AF due around 24.1.

OrangeFizz99 Mon 13-Jan-14 09:20:35

Hope all is ok snow.

Cakecrumbsinmybra Mon 13-Jan-14 10:54:13

Been on holiday... Nothing to report. DTD a few times when oving, but DH wasn't well, so probably not as often as required. Had sore boobs all last week, although AF not due til this weekend. But now boobs don't seem as sore, just usual pre-menstrual tenderness I normally get. So, I don't know what that is all about. Too early to test anyway.

So, can someone update me on who is pg??

Cakecrumbsinmybra Mon 13-Jan-14 10:56:42

Wow, so many BFP's, congrats everyone.

bonzo77 Mon 13-Jan-14 14:48:25

here you go cakecrumbs

TTC
Bonzo
squeakybeaky
inadreamworld
winterbluessummersoonish
radiatormesh
snowpink
nordicmum
mmmbacon
missingmarbles
sj257
molotov
cakecrumbs

Pregnant
orangefizz
stinky
haveyourtriedarewardchart
clara85
bunny
girlsville

sounds like you're where I am. AF due anytime between now and thursday really.

snowpink Mon 13-Jan-14 15:28:47

Yay! It's all good, so there shouldn't be any problems with ttc!

OrangeFizz99 Mon 13-Jan-14 17:14:23

Whoop whoop snow!

Cakecrumbsinmybra Mon 13-Jan-14 17:37:05

I am starting to get a bit down about it now tbh. sad

OrangeFizz99 Mon 13-Jan-14 18:17:18

Oh no cakes sorry to hear that.

Ttc is a bit of a bitch even third time round apparently.

bonzo77 Mon 13-Jan-14 21:53:51

oh cakes it doesn't get easier does it? Biological clock, age gaps, the though of still dealing with all the newborn stuff (not to mention delivering a baby) when we're practically OAPs. I'm the same. No contraception now for about 8 months and nothing. Obviously we should all be counting our blessings. I had a big rant up thread though. How long does one leave it before investigating I wonder?

bonzo77 Mon 13-Jan-14 21:55:05

hmm. maybe it's 7 months. still too long. it's not taken this long before. but then I've not been this old before!

Tranquilitybaby Mon 13-Jan-14 23:34:33

Actually, I found my recovery to be quicker after my second section. I did have a mild scar infection, but as I was bf, I just cleaned it with salt water each day (as per midwive's advice) and it cleared up easily.

My overhang on my scar is a different matter sad

Cakecrumbsinmybra Tue 14-Jan-14 11:08:50

It doesn't help that I can't talk about it with anyone either. Well, I could, but for some reason I just don't want people to know we're trying. Partly because of my age and the chances of failure and mc, I think.

I've decided I am going to make an GP appointment, it's been 8 months without contraception for us, and 5 months of trying properly. We won't go down any complicated route, but if there is something simple that I need to do, then I should find out. (I have no idea about fertility treatment though, so perhaps this doesn't exist?) I should probably try something holistic too - a diet overhaul/avoiding alcohol/doing acupuncture?

bonzo77 Tue 14-Jan-14 12:02:19

cake I'm in the same boat as you. Totally. I'll prob wait till September before going to the GP. I'd love some reassurance that my insides are not all furred up with adhesions. And that I'm definitely ovulating.

snowpink Tue 14-Jan-14 22:14:03

Go and get it checked out cake, especially if you fell pregnant easily before (and certainly if you've experienced any problems). Maybe I would fib a little and tell them you've been trying for over a year, not sure if they do much if it's been less than that.
I only speak to a very select few about ttc no 3. With no 1 and 2 it was different, everyone expected that from us and most of our friends were in the same boat, but with no 3 I fear that most think we're bonkers if that makes sense.

inadreamworld Tue 14-Jan-14 23:57:21

snowpink same as you I have not told any of my friends that we want a 3rd baby as a lot of people will think I am bonkers especially as my DC are 2.8 and 11 months. Also we have 2 girls and if number 3 doesn't come along or if number 3 is a girl I don't want them to think I am sad because we didn't have a boy because that isn't true. In fact I had a dream that we had a 3rd girl so lets see what happens......

snowpink Wed 15-Jan-14 12:34:18

Argh! And now a good friend of mine told me she's pregnant with her third, due around the due date from my miscarriage! Of course I'm happy for her and she held off telling me until some time had passed since the mc, but still! I wish I was a little more determined this cycle. But next cycle we start this dtd every other day! Bit more focus! wink

Cake - I'm right that AF not due till this weekend? So still reason to keep fingers crossed. Good luck anyway and keeping fingers crossed for you and others.
It took 5 months to conceive DS2, not really long at all in the grand scheme of things but it felt like forever, given that DS1 was the first month. I really sympathise.

Cakecrumbsinmybra Thu 16-Jan-14 18:38:44

Yes, I am going to get it checked out as I need to go to GP for something else anyway so I might as well get the ball rolling. Ha ha, yes I also don't want people to think I am trying for a girl, because we're so not! snowpink that is really hard. Yes, I am determined that we dtd every other day this next month, but lord the effort!!!!

haveyou, thank you, but AF is definitely on it's way. Oh well, who wants to be heavily pregnant in July/August anyway? wink

Cakecrumbsinmybra Thu 16-Jan-14 18:39:03

Thanks for the support everyone btw

mrspuddleduckie Thu 16-Jan-14 20:04:15

Hello everyone - have been reading this thread since Christmas, as we are hoping to start TTC for third baby in April, for a 2015 baby

Congratulations to all the BFPs so far smile

I have two DSs, aged 3 & 1, and want to have one more baby quite close in age - I'm 28 and fell pregnant with both boys on first month or trying, but this time I might try and DTD quite a way before ovulation, just to experiment with the Shettles theory (even though I logically know it's all make believe!)

I had my Nexplanon implant removed today and will be OPKing and charting between now and April, hoping that this is enough time for my cycle to settle down a little bit

It's great to have a thread for baby number 3 - I know my friends and family will think I'm mad

Ha ha cake not me oh god

shock

Meanwhile over on the graduates thread the symptoms (and the reality) are kicking in.....

MrsPuddleDuck what's the theory?

maxpower Thu 16-Jan-14 20:34:41

Hi all can I join you? I have a DD (7) and DS (3). DH and I have just started ttc #3. I'm 37 so time is against us a bit. Previously it's taken us well over a year ttc each time but DH has been uncharacteristically enthusiastic about getting the job done this time ;-) I'm interested to see how long that will last :-) We'll have to be pretty regimented about dtd as he works shifts including nights and weekends and I work full-time m-f so we basically have to take every opportunity we have!

mrspuddleduckie Thu 16-Jan-14 20:46:49

The theory - which is totally unproven, but will give it a shot - is that girls are most likely to be conceived if you have sex 5 days before ovulation and boys are more likely to arise from sex on or closer to ovulation day. Both my boys were O-day babies, so I'm just going to see experiment for fun! Truthfully, I just want a baby, don't really mind the sex - I just have a great girls name leftover from two boy pregnancies and I want to use it!

OrangeFizz99 Fri 17-Jan-14 09:39:29

mrspuddleduck - same for me but t'other way round. Boys name very ready to go post two dds but a third dd name will be tricky!!

I read the shettles book but dh (science phd) poo poohed it.

inadreamworld Fri 17-Jan-14 09:47:28

mrspuddle I didn't know it was called the shettles theory but a woman came up to me the other day, saw I had 2 DDs and went in to a lengthy explanation of how I could get a boy (something about sex on Ovulation day). I don't care whether have a boy or another girl and sounds like a lot of stress to me, not into charting and OPKs!!

bonzo77 Fri 17-Jan-14 09:51:01

welcome max and mrspuddle

I'd read about shettles, but TBH we seems to find it so hard to get pregnant that it doesn't seem worth reducing our chances further. I do know of two people who had girls after following it and some special diet, one had a girl after 2 boys, the other after 3 boys (and then had another boy).

Fortunately, we don't have any names, as we have used our boys' names, and never came up with a proper girls' name.

Well, AF is late. According to fertility friend it was due yesterday. But that would be a 30 day cycle, and my longest ones have been 34 or 35 days, so I need to wait till monday or tuesday really to test. But I don't feel pregnant.

Tranquilitybaby Fri 17-Jan-14 12:45:32

Hello, I've been lurking but just wanted to post. Considering (well more me than DH to be honest) TTC no. 3. I've been broody for about 4 years now on and off. I just can't shake it. I'm 36 now though and my dd is 12, DS 9.

I've gone through all the cons / too big an age gap now, I feel that I'm getting too old, it'll be like starting again, I suffer from health anxiety, but even after all that I'm still broody!

DH just keeps saying he doesn't know, it's probably be wonderful but he's scared and he doesn't want to be an older dad (he's nearly 40).

Anyone else gone through similar before starting TTC? X

snowpink Fri 17-Jan-14 12:49:09

We dtd way before ovulation and both times we had boys, although it worked for my friend. Now I'm like bonzo, I'll just take anything. (And secretly I'm hoping for another boy...)

Good luck bonzo! Fingers crossed for mon/tues!

maxpower Fri 17-Jan-14 12:57:16

Hi tranquillity I think we all go through our own pros and cons when thinking about ttc #3. I'm lucky as dh is keen for a third.

Good luck bonzo

Good luck bonzo!

bonzo77 Fri 17-Jan-14 15:51:51

tranquility welcome. I'm also 36 and DH will be 40 soon. On Monday in fact. You'll have a decent age gap: fewer concerns about fitting in car seats and picking double buggies than some here. I'm the first of three, with a big gap. My middle brother and I certainly helped a lot when the "surprise" arrived.

Suddenly feeling very sick. But I think it's more to do with the pain from my thumbnail which I bruised in a freak accident involving slippery decking, unsuitable foot wear and a large knife. TBH I got off lightly!! Still no AF though.

Noodles32 Fri 17-Jan-14 18:20:55

Hi all, I've been reading this thread for awhile now & have resisted the urge to post.......untill now.

Really hope you don't mind me gatecrashing your thread, but pls can I be added. I'm 32 and have 2 kids, 1 of each (4 & 6) We have been TTC no 3 since Aug 13, TTC this time has sent me nuts, I hate to say it but I feel desperate.

I fell really quickly previously, so just can't understand why not now ?? OK I'm a little older an a little fatter than I was b4 but not by much.

To make matters worse EVERYONE around us seems to be announcing there good news, an I happy for them, I honestly am but I want one too !

Done school run yesterday an 2 ppl said there expecting, and a family friend called today to say she is pregnant (although not very happy about it) an I tried but could not hide my feelings.

I feel blessed to have the children I have been given regardless if we have anymore or not, an wish all my pregnant friends the best but I feel like I'm running out of time (my mum and aunts all had menopause around 39)

I can't tell anyone how I'm feeling as no one knows we are trying, and hubby thinks we are trying on a 'If it happens, it happens' kind of thing.

Pls be honest am I over reacting ?? Or except maybe it's not gonna happen xxx

MolotovCocktail Fri 17-Jan-14 20:30:55

Hi Noodles, I was in a similar position to you when ttc dd2. It's a horrible feeling because on top of those overwhelming maternal feelings, I also experienced tremendous feelings of guilt: why wasn't dd1 'enough' for me? (dd2 took two years and 6 cycles of clomid to show her shiney face).

I don't suppose it matters whatsoever if it's your 2nd, 3rd, etc, child that you're wishing for. The crucial part of that sentence is that it is another child who you want to bring into the world. There is that feeling of incompleteness; of someone being missing.

Yet you might feel guilty about having those feelings because you're already blessed with 2 dcs.

IME, ttc for 5 months is no time at all. Most pregnancies occur within a year of ttc, so you've a good while to go yet before you should be concerned anyway smile

Good luck.

MolotovCocktail Fri 17-Jan-14 20:44:39

And fwiw, we were diagnosed with 'unexplained secondary infertility' and I was given clomid as it par for the course as treatment.

We were just about on cycle 23 of ttc when we went on a short holiday. I was just starting to come to terms with the idea of it just being the 3 of us - and was starting to feel comfortable with that (I'm an only child and my daughter being 'the only child of an only child' had played heavily on my mind). But I sort of forgot as much as I could about another baby because it just felt like it was never going to materialise, and that chasing it was ruining the goodness I already had.

I think I had reached a turning point.

Anyway, I must have become pg on that holiday grin Dd2 will turn 2yo in the spring. There is a part of me that would quite like another baby but I could never put us through what we went through to bring dd2 here. It changed me; it was so difficult. It was just too stressful. But I do genuinely understand those feelings of wanting, wishing, wanting ...

Hope it works out for you soon smile

busyDays Fri 17-Jan-14 22:07:26

I'd like to join too please. I am getting really broody for number 3, actually I have been for some time already. I have ds age 6 and dd who is very nearly 4. I planned to have all of my children 2 years apart but life (well mainly finances) have got in the way and somehow the time has just flown by. Dd is starting school this September and I am really struggling with the thought of no longer having a little one in the house. Dh definitely wants to have a third but he is adamant about waiting another year or two. I see the age gap getting bigger and bigger and want a baby as soon as possible. Over Christmas we dtd quite a few times without contraception after some booze, and I was so hopeful but sadly AF arrived this week=(

Noodles32 Fri 17-Jan-14 23:33:35

Hi Molotovcocktail

Thank you for your reply, you just seemed to completely 'get it' I feel I sound so ungrateful for the children I already have.

I am also an only child, an what you said did really echo how I feel. At times I no I'm completely irrational and stressing does not help things, but other times the longing takes over.

I feel its not something most ppl understand because we already have 2 kids, who are boy/girl they assume were 'done'

But in truth my children are my world an can not help how I feel, my hubby is 1 of 9 (most live abroad) so he is happy if we have another an happy if we don't as he knows the pitfalls of a big family, although I don't wanna go that big -Lol

Like you said its only 5 months, maybe I need to chill a bit.
Thank you again xxx

Tranquilitybaby Sat 18-Jan-14 01:09:20

Hi Bonzo77 - wow we really are quite alike lol! Ages the same etc. hope it's good news for you! X

bonzo77 Sat 18-Jan-14 15:13:15

hi noodles and busy.

Just popping in for a me me me post because AF has come, the BITCH. Really late. Seriously, I'd got my hopes up this time. I really should stop doing that. I've never TTC'd for this long. Starting to wonder if it will ever happen.

OrangeFizz99 Sat 18-Jan-14 15:23:48

Oh no bonzo. That's utterly rubbish.

Have you been to gp?

maxpower Sat 18-Jan-14 16:38:23

Sorry to hear that bonzo . How long have you been ttc? Previously I had a really relaxed attitude to conception but this time it's all I can think about. As it took us years before I suspect it'll be the same this time round as well though. I should be ovulating this weekend so of course I've had to catch ds' s cold. Nothing sexier than a runny nose ;-)

Cakecrumbsinmybra Sun 19-Jan-14 17:02:51

AF came for me too bonzo, on Friday - at least I am not being irregular now!! noodles, it is so frustrating isn't it! At least you have age on your side, I am 38! I find that the more hormonal I am, the more I want a third - the less hormonal, like right now, I start to think "we are happy as we are, do I really want to go through it all again". But come 10 days time and I'll be desperate again!

Cakecrumbsinmybra Sun 19-Jan-14 17:04:27

It's so annoying bonzo, when AF is late - has happened to me twice now over the summer, as I think I said - two 34 day cycles!! Ridiculous and really got my hopes up.

MolotovCocktail Sun 19-Jan-14 20:24:11

I think the best advice I learned when ttc dd2 is to wait 10 days past the day that AF was due. That saved me a lot of time with wasted tests and the heartbreak of negatives.

* That comment is general and not directed at anyone, btw *

I meanwhile am feeling very conflicted. The house we are in just about accommodates the 4 of us. I think I can just about handle 2 children yet the thought of just one more is at the back of my mind.

We would definitely need to move house, which is do-able but still an upheaval; I like my body as it is and it would need to recover from anoher pg and ELCS ... I'd need to conceive in the first place.

But I like the idea of pregnancy again, especially if it just happened. I'm torn between 'two's company' and 'three is the magic number'. I'm worried about affecting the dynamic we have. I'm worried about having another ELCS. I'm worried my body won't recover after a 3rd pg/2nd ELCS. But when I see a young baby I go gooey: would it be good to give my two girls another sibling to dote upon?

I'm definitely using my head more than my heart this time, but I suppose I should as we already have 2 very wanted, utterly perfect children.

I would like dd2 to be at nursery (or fast approaching) as I loved having just that time with the baby last time. I have from about summer to winter to make up my mind as to whether I would like a 3rd (I'm too aware of cycles for any pg to be accidental) ...

Gosh, sorry for the Sunday ramble! It does help to clear my head, though, as DH is clear he would like another, whereas I am on the fence.

redspottydress Sun 19-Jan-14 21:50:52

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snowpink Mon 20-Jan-14 17:10:19

Sorry bonzo! I'll probably join you on Friday when my AF is due, I'm already getting the pms spots. Lovely.

maxpower Mon 20-Jan-14 21:36:30

Dh is on nights now so that's that for this month. Fingers crossed.

maxpower Tue 21-Jan-14 20:03:28

Ok I'm already losing the plot. I'm talking myself into pregnancy symptoms with at least another 2 weeks til af due. Good thing my job is mad busy as that provides a distraction at least. Genuinely my uterus is achy (result of a emcs with dd) but I honestly can't say if it normally aches during this part of my cycle as I'm crap at noticing/remembering stuff like that. Hence the reading into everything. I may need a good talking to!

MolotovCocktail Wed 22-Jan-14 16:47:07

It doesn't help that I know a few women who have recently given birth - 3 in the last month and one good friend 7 months ago.

DH also keeps saying 'when can we have another?' and 'we have 2, we might as well have 3!' smile

I'm pretty sure that I don't want to become pg before dd2 turns 2yo. I haven't become pg quickly or particularly easily, especially with dd2 before ... but surely thoughts like this must mean that I'm maybe not 'done' yet?

All I know is that I was desparate for both dds. This time I don't feel desparate (yet, anyway), and that's confusing for me. I don't know if I really want another baby, or like the idea of having another baby, iyswim.

I do go rather gooey over all these new babies smile

TeresaGreene Wed 22-Jan-14 19:33:31

Hi there, please can I join?! We've been ttc #3 since Jan 2013 and I fell pregnant in September but had a mmc in November at 12 weeks. My periods since my miscarriage have been irregular which is really worrying me. However, I realise I was very lucky to conceive my DS (8) and my DD (3) practically straight away. I am trying not to obsess about it, but its really hard when most of my friends are currently pregnant or have gorgeous babies!

mrspuddleduckie Thu 23-Jan-14 09:40:19

Just checking in - sorry about AF bonzo - hope you're feeling a bit better a few days on

I'm a week into a new diet (nothing fancy, just 1600 cal a day limit) as I figured I'd try and lose a few pounds before pregnancy to make the weight gain a bit more subtle third time round.

I am so so hungry, and therefore feeling quite grumpy. Have been a bit of a shouty mum last week sad hoping this week will be a bit easier

TTC from April, so was thinking about starting my folic acid this week - does that sound about right?

Hope to hear of some more BFPs from you all soon

mrspuddleduckie Thu 23-Jan-14 09:42:24

ps. Hi Teresa - so sorry to hear of your MMC, hopefully you'll have some happy news very soon. It's hard not to obsess about it, I'm familiar with that - keep busy and then you'll only dwell on it as you go to sleep (has kept me sane so far)

Cakecrumbsinmybra Thu 23-Jan-14 09:48:01

Sorry to hear that Teresa.

Just realised that we have people staying (again) when I'm going to be OVing - ARGH!!

snowpink Thu 23-Jan-14 16:29:26

AF arrived yesterday so I'm out for this cycle. Welcome Teresa and sorry about your mmc. I had an early mc in nov and my cycles are also very wonky but thankfully on the shorter side at least.

bonzo77 Thu 23-Jan-14 20:15:10

welcome teresa and sorry for your loss. I had a mmc between DS1 and DS2. I was pg pretty soon after, but did have some wonky cycles in between. I found vitamin B6 helped with that. it is hard not to obsess.

snowpink sorry about the bitch. I do like to take the opportunity whilst definitely not pregnant to do all the things I wouldn't if I were: reckless horseriding (I always have a go on the scary horse when I'm on hmm), drinking: massive piss up for DH's 40th last weekend and buying clothes that will definitely not fit past 16 weeks or so (my fave skinny jeans have just ripped so i've been to New Look today. Cheers me up anyway.

mrspuddle I wish I had the will power. I'd love to lose half a stone (but I know that it'll fall off if I get pg due to morning sickness). I should probably get on the folic acid too, and the B6 as I mentioned above (it's also meant to help with your mood, which I definitely need), and the vitamin D. The pregnacare really did not agree with me, so I got into the habit of taking lots of supplements instead. During my last pregnancy I was rattling with vit c and d, calcium, galfer (ferrous fumarate, better for my bum than iron tablets), omega 3, baby aspirin, omeprazole.

max seriously, sign up to the VIP membership at fertility friend. You can chart every single symptom and obsess and compare with previous months. it's great. I'm just using up the last of my membership left after getting pg with DS2, then I will renew. I looooooove it.

bonzo77 Thu 23-Jan-14 20:18:48

orange i've not been to the GP. I think I'll leave it till september. that will be over a year of trying in earnest, DS1 will be started at school, and DS2 will be 21 months. I'm not sure how much sympathy i'd get, what will they do? I'm going to really try to chart temps as that's a good way to check if I am actually ovulating. DS2's sleeping is pretty good now, rarely waking in the night and sleeping till 6.30 most mornings, so that will help make charting more accurate.

MolotovCocktail Thu 23-Jan-14 20:39:48

bonzo, going to the gp will start a cycle of fertility investigations. You will be referred to an NHS infertility clinic; your and your dp will be asked a series of questions relating to your sexual health, sexual habits, previous pregnancies. Your dp will be required to provide a semen sample in order to examine the motility, mobility and morphology of sperm.

You would be subjected to more invasive tests: a cervical smear, a trans-vaginal ultrasound scan to check the ovaries and a HSG x-ray. This is an x-ray of the uterus and fallopian tubes to check for blockages/scarring/anything that may be preventing a pg. It's extremely invasive and involves a radio-opaque dye being flushed through the uterus and fallopian tubes whilst the x-ray takes place.

A diagnosis will be made upon the results from these and only then would you receive treatment (this is how it worked for us on the NHS in late 2010/early 2011).

It's a means to an end and if you are desparate, you'll do it. If I was to give myself advice back then, however, it would be to have counselling. I didn't have any - I was in denial of how much it was all affecting and me and if I'm honest, the fact that we were struggling ttc as well as having all of these invasive, cold, clinical tests, took a toll on my mental health.

It can take 2 years for a healthy couple to conceive a child naturally. This means fucking shit when you're desparate to carry a baby but, it's worth thinking about before you start upon the path of fertility investigations.

bonzo77 Fri 24-Jan-14 14:59:02

Thanks molotov. As a medical person I understand that tests without an intention to treat would be a waste of time and money. I'm not sure what treatment I'd want to undergo. Certainly paying for IUI or IVF is off the cards. I'd rather spend the money on the kids we've got that trying to make another one. If it were a case of me not ovulating, or some hormone defect, or blockages that could be dealt with relatively easily, I think we would try.

The thought of the tests you describe doesn't bother me really. Apart from the HSG they're all part of what I've had done as part of routine gynae and miscarriage care. DH already did a SA when we were struggling last time (I got pg that month)! I read that There's some anecdotal evidence that suggests that the HSG has some therapeutic value in "flushing" the reproductive tract. TBH with 2 CS and a query over a previous history of endo (I'm not convinced), I wouldn't be surprised if it showed adhesions.

As for counselling... It's something I should pursue for myself anyway, irrespective of TTC. It's very much on my to do list, and once I get some childcare sorted for ds2 it'll be adressed pronto.

MolotovCocktail Fri 24-Jan-14 19:43:13

Yeah, I think counselling is valuable. I felt consumed by guilt by the idea thst dd1 sonwhow wasn't 'enough' for us. It took me over a year to reconcile that most people don't even have to consider this; that most people just get pg.

But then, I think too much. And if I am completely honest, I compare myself too much to others. Who knows what really goes on with other people?

Meanwhile, I took my first folic acid supplement today. If I am going to consider another pg aroubd spring, better prepare now ...

MrsKent Sat 25-Jan-14 09:08:11

Hi Ladies,
Hope you don't mind me joining, it's my first time ever commenting on MN.
I have two gorgeous children and I'm ttc a third.
My two first pregnancies were unexpected so I thought this time when trying it would happen really quickly... But hasn't yet... And I am finding I'm struggling with the wait! A lot!

Cakecrumbsinmybra Mon 27-Jan-14 13:14:52

Welcome MrsKent!

Molotov and bonzo, I haven't made a GP app - I have been kind of thinking, what's the point? I don't want any invasive tests. I don't want to have IVF. It would be different if it were No. 1 or 2. But No.3? I will just be happy with what I've got. Which I am, of course!

Infact, DH keeps mumbling about perhaps it's a blessing in disguise (and I have to admit I do, when DS2 continues to wake me up in the middle of the night at age 3!!).

But dtd'ing has started nonetheless. It is CD11 for me and I'll think I'll use the ov sticks again (just to use them up really as I always know when I'm ov'ing anyway). Good luck!

BobaFetaCheese Tue 28-Jan-14 10:17:11

Joining up, lots of ttc1/2 threads around here...not very many 3+ grin

Bonzo, I've found Taking Charge of your Fertility to be an excellent book for everything plumbing related, I've learnt so much from it and found it useful for when we're NOT trying (use natural family planning as contraception).

Sorry to here about you mmc Teresa.

inadreamworld Tue 28-Jan-14 10:42:04

Interesting book Boba might read that - especially as use natural family planning too.

AF 2 days late but won't test for a week or so as has been late in the past occasionally and not been pregnant. Haven't been trying for that long as DD2 is only just turned one! I find it takes a while for cycles to become regular again after giving birth - even though I wasn't able to breastfeed either of my children.

Tranquilitybaby Sat 01-Feb-14 23:46:58

Little update from me, I've got noone else to talk to as nobody knows how I've been feeling. DH and I have been talking things over for the last couple of days and today he said he's feeling more positive about possibly trying for no. 3!

He said he's going to think about it some more but if we do he wants to start just before we go on holiday in July. Eek! Is it normal to feel scared now?!

Cakecrumbsinmybra Mon 03-Feb-14 13:27:53

tranquility - yes, very normal! Every month I think "is this really what we want?"!

Well, 2WW wait for me now...

busyDays Mon 03-Feb-14 14:22:24

Congrats Tranquility!! That sounds really positive. I bet it is only a matter of time now before he completely caves in. grin

I'm still working on dh and hoping he will come around to the idea of ttc soon. I was going to throw an old baby item out the other day and he said we should keep it as we might need it for number 3, so I'm feeling quite hopeful.

maxpower Mon 03-Feb-14 18:15:07

God, this 2ww has gone on for about a year. .... and still another week to go.

Cakecrumbsinmybra Sat 08-Feb-14 10:47:53

What are people up to? bonzo, have not heard anything from you for a while - everything OK? Or perhaps you have some news to share...?

Nothing new here - I definitely do not feel pg! The only odd thing I have had this month is some spotting a couple of days after ov, which doesn't normally happen. I usually spot on day 10 or so, which also happened, but not after ov'ing. But I think that would be too early for implantation, so was probably just that - a bit of spotting! I guess implantation time would be about now, but I don't have any niggles or anything. No sore boobs etc. So I expect AF on Valentines Day (how romantic).

maxpower, when is your AF (or bfp!) due?

OffAgain Sat 08-Feb-14 12:23:05

Hello! New to all of this and feeling very excited as we have decided (almost definitely) that we would like TTC no 3. We have DD 11 and DS 8 and have been thinking about this for a long time!
BUT....We have booked a holiday to Florida for Apr 2015 with my brother and his wife who don't have kids and are mega excited about taking us and the kids to Disneyworld (they are paying for some of the trip) so....I wanted to ask you all do I
a) get to it with the very rare chance that I will fall preg straight away and have a 3 month old by the time we go (is that crazy???)
b) wait for 8 months before trying and hopefully go there pregnant (worried about my ageing eggs as it is!)

Either way I know they will be cheesed off as it will change the dynamic of the holiday completely and I will be so worried about telling them. But I also know that I can't make a major decision based on a 2 week holiday.

I'm 38 this year and if we don't get pregnant within a coupe of months I hate the thought of then having to stop ttc for 6 months so that I am still able to fly/not about to have a baby! I don't want to deny my kids this holiday as they are great kids and we may not be able to afford to do it again. What would you do??

Tranquilitybaby Sat 08-Feb-14 15:18:08

OffAgain - we are very similar too, I have children 11 and 8 but are off to the USA this summer so I'm currently trying to decide whether to says sod and TTC now of wait until nearer holiday!

Oh btw he said yes, DH is really keen to get started now! Can't believe the change in him! X

Hope everyone else is really well x

Tranquilitybaby Sat 08-Feb-14 15:19:29

Oh and OffAgain get to it, a 3 month old is Florida will be easy!! Good luck

My issue is do I want to be possibly 20 weeks plus gp when we go really.

OrangeFizz99 Sat 08-Feb-14 15:24:38

offagain - id say go for it, the issue wouldnt be having a three month old baby but being in the bit of pg when you cant fly. Are the dates flexible in any way should that be the case? Or you could start trying now and then skip a few months if it doesn't happen straight away?

OrangeFizz99 Sat 08-Feb-14 15:25:32

You wouldn't have to stop for six months though I don't think? Maybe 3 tops?

OrangeFizz99 Sat 08-Feb-14 15:26:14

Also wouldn't worry about db and sil at all!

Will stop posting now!

OffAgain Sat 08-Feb-14 16:35:06

Thanks OrangeFizz99 and Tranquilitybaby! I know I shouldn't worry about what brother says but I just know they will be upset that it won't quite be the holiday they had planned if I'm lucky to either be pregnant or have very small baby! I feel so nervous now that we have finally made a decision- things are so easy now, holidays are easy with min baggage etc. lie ins at the weekend...but then I think that's all overrated and I have years to enjoy lie ins!
Tranquilitybaby nice to hear someone with similar age gap who is taking the plunge again!!

busyDays Sat 08-Feb-14 21:03:04

Tranquility - That's great news. I think you should just go for it. I've been to America on holiday twice while pregnant and it was all fine!

OffAgain - I wouldn't want to wait that long before trying. Young babies travel surprisingly well and I'm sure you would still have a fab trip. You might end up resenting the holiday if you let it get in the way of things.

I'm having a super anxious 2ww. We are not officially ttc yet because dh wants to wait a bit longer, but we sort of accidentally dtd without protection the day before I ovulated. I know the chances of getting pregnant from one cycle are slim but I can't help feeling hopeful. The trouble is, if I don't get pregnant it is not like I can just move on and try again next month, as I would have to convince dh to start ttc first! AF is due on Monday and time is dragging soooooo slowly. I tested this morning and got a bfn so it probably won't be my lucky month, but I just can't get it out of my head. Someone slap me please!!! I really feel like I'm losing my mind here!

maxpower Sat 08-Feb-14 21:17:00

cake and busy my cycles can be a few days out but I'm working on the principle af is due Monday. Because my cycle can be variable I'll probably wait til next weekend to test if nothing happens. I'm getting butterflies just thinking about it!

busyDays Sun 09-Feb-14 08:40:01

max - you are so much stronger than me. I'm going to try to hold out testing for one or two more days but even that will be really difficult.

maxpower Sun 09-Feb-14 16:08:44

Well af arrived today - as I said my cycle can vary by a few days. Well at least I can enjoy a guilt free vodka tonight!

busyDays Sun 09-Feb-14 18:25:04

Sorry to hear that max. Hope you enjoy the vodka. smile
I have a bottle of wine waiting in the fridge so I have something to look forward to if af arrives.

Cakecrumbsinmybra Sun 09-Feb-14 19:24:23

Bad luck max.

I am bad as I don't avoid a drink during the 2WW. Perhaps my chances of conceiving would be better if I did. (I don't mean binge drinking, just 1 or 2 glasses of an evening, a couple of times a week). I guess part of me worries that I wont be able to drink for another 9 months if I am pg, so better to be ignorant and enjoy my last few!

No pg symptoms though, so I may as well enjoy my wine guilt free.

maxpower Sun 09-Feb-14 19:41:56

Tbh the rational part of me knew it wouldn't work first time given how long it's try the last 2 pgs so I'm ok with it.

basia2 Sun 09-Feb-14 19:43:56

About to start trying for #4 (fingers crossed for a daughter this time).
Good luck to you all, ladies. ��

busyDays Mon 10-Feb-14 13:58:39

So af arrived today, right on time. I'm feeling pretty disappointed but I guess it just wasn't meant to be this month.

maxpower Mon 10-Feb-14 20:15:51

Sorry busy. Let's look forward to a bfp next month.

inadreamworld Tue 11-Feb-14 18:57:53

basia what was your third labour like? My 2nd was really easy am hoping the third will follow suit. Still not preg, my Mum says I shouldn't get preg this month because the baby will be a Scorpio and they are all ridiculously intense. My Mum is slightly odd.

OrangeFizz99 Tue 11-Feb-14 20:38:21

I'm a Scorpio. As in is my brother and my mum. My poor father!

inadreamworld Wed 12-Feb-14 08:41:05

grin @ Orange

inadreamworld Wed 12-Feb-14 08:51:57

Haven't had much time and energy to work on getting preg for the last few months. DH is now not so stressed at work and we are in our own place again - we were staying with MIL for a while while our flat was done up (she is a form of contraception in itself!!) and my periods have got regular again a year after having DD2 so hopefully sometime in 2015 (or even 2014??!) we will be having no 3!!

DD1 starts nursery (free 15 hours next September) and starts school the following Sept so won't have three at home for very long.

Tranquilitybaby Wed 12-Feb-14 11:23:26

Morning everyone. Really want to start next month. Two things holding me back though, want to lose some weight and gave a long haul holiday booked in the summer.

bonzo77 Wed 12-Feb-14 12:43:06

It's been so long since I've posted here that the thread dropped off my "threads I am on" page!

2ww here. Chart showed I definitely ovulated. We DTD every other day from end of AF to 4 days DPO. Obviously I'm not getting my hopes up, but well, you know.....

Booked a summer holiday for 2nd week in July. If I were to get pregnant I'd be 6 months by then. eek! At least my boobs would look fab in a bikini!

Right, going back to read the bits I've missed....

bonzo77 Wed 12-Feb-14 12:56:17

me again.....

max and busy sorry about AF... wine, sushi and Camembert all round then!

offagain i'd definitely go for it. I guess you want to avoid being on holiday in from when you cannot fly (I think 28 weeks most air lines) to when the baby is 6 weeks (so assuming you go a maximum of 2 weeks late, till 8 weeks after your due date). Life is short, the holiday is only 2 weeks, and actually little babies are much more portable than bigger ones.

tranqulity I guess the same to you really about timing. How long haul? USA, asia, Australia? Does needing to lose weight impact that heavily? A good friend of mine managed her weight really well during pregnancy and ended it the same weight as when she started, and was 2 stone lighter 6 weeks after the baby was born. She was quite big initially but was diagnosed with GD and took it very seriously (as she should).

cake i'm with you on the drinking. i'm not pregnant till I'm pregnant. With my oldest I didn't know I was pregnant till about 6 weeks or something, and I was certainly drinking in that time (honeymoon, newly wed celebrations)...

Cakecrumbsinmybra Thu 13-Feb-14 12:14:32

Day 29 here, I fully expect AF to come in the next couple of days (question - if you come on overnight, which always happens to me, do you count the day before or the new day as CD1? Also, do you just ignore any spotting beforehand and take CD1 to be when you have full on flow? (sorry))

bonzo77 Thu 13-Feb-14 18:31:59

CD1 is the first day of red flow. So if you come on during the night you count from the following morning. Ditto re spotting, don't start CD1 till it's red.

Cakecrumbsinmybra Sat 15-Feb-14 13:41:23

Thanks. AF just starting here sad
What about you?

bonzo77 Sat 15-Feb-14 13:49:12

Snap!!! CD29 here too. Sorry that AF has got you.

No sign of AF. FF says I can test from tomorrow, but the bitch AF could easily not show till Thursday. So...no point really testing or getting hopeful. I ovulated on CD18, I'm pretty sure that my LP won't go over 14 days, so if AF doesn't come by the end of Tuesday (CD32), I guess I would actually be late then. I'm not sure I get that much in the way of PMS, and I've got a cold which blurs things a bit, so not playing guessing games this month.

bonzo77 Sat 15-Feb-14 13:49:53

Doh. I realise you're CD31 now.

bonzo77 Sat 15-Feb-14 18:19:34

Well, 2 things to add. 1. AF arrived. 2. Actually, I think my LP is short. On FF it seems to range from 9 to 12 days, with the average at 11. There you go. I'm a dick as this is what was happening after my miscarriage. I know less than 10 is really not long enough, and some sources say less than 12. Off to start on the vitamin b6 and the vit c. And omega 3. If these make no difference and I get 2 more charts showing less than 12 days I'm really going to think about going to the dr much sooner than I said before.

Cakecrumbsinmybra Tue 18-Feb-14 13:12:26

Boo, Bonzo. Well, AF didn't actually get going until yesterday, so day 32 in the end (think I miscalculated a day). Which I suppose makes sense as I didn't ovulate until 17/18 this month. I don't know much about the LP tbh, it's not something I have looked into much. Why does it matter if it is short?

bonzo77 Tue 18-Feb-14 13:59:08

if the LP is too short you get your period too soon after ovulation, if this happens before a fertilised egg can implant, you don't get pregnant (or you might get a chemical pregnancy if it starts to implant). It's often caused by low progesterone, and one of the treatments is progesterone cream. I'm sure the B6 helped after my mc, and some websites suggest vit C and omega 3 too, which are harmless enough. DH is a pharmacist and has offered to "acquire" me some progesterone cream shock, but I'd rather see the Dr. A friend had this and got pg very quickly after starting the cream. Ironically, she saw a private specialist who was also an obs/gynae consultant where I had my babies. I'd actually made an appointment to see her privately and go my BFP with DS2 soon after making the phone call!

bonzo77 Sun 02-Mar-14 20:10:39

hi TTC # 3'ers.... any one with anything interesting to tell me?!

3isourmagicnumber Sun 02-Mar-14 20:31:35

Hi just saw your thread and hope it's ok to join. We r ttc #3. We have 2ds aged 5 and 2. It's been a funny old journey to reach this decision ha. We were complete with our family until sept we had an unplanned pregnancy which we very quickly got our heads round and were very happy. 5 days later I had a cp. it changed everything and I became desperate for #3. So that's where we r at the min. On cycle 1. Bfp due 9th march. I haven't read many of the post before me so hope I'm ok joining u and look forward to hearing your success stories xx

Cakecrumbsinmybra Mon 03-Mar-14 10:41:23

Hi all, nothing to report here - I am on Day 15 here, but don't seem to have had a positive opk yet, but we are dtd. I have to say that with every month that goes by we are getting more unenthusiastic about continuing. It is really hard feeling the pressure to have sex lots every month - not that we don't have sex normally, but we do it in our own time, maybe twice a week, and trying to juggle busy work/kids/people staying/DH travelling with the need to DTD every month is a bit draining. Which always makes us think that if having sex is chore then how on earth would we cope with another DC!!!!

I don't know, I guess we'll keep going for a bit longer, but we have such a full life with the other 2, who are just so lovely and getting to an age where life is so much easier, that I'm certainly not going to continue TTC after I hit 39 in June. That's my cut off point.

Welcome 3, good luck to you this month, sorry to hear your story.

bonzo77 Mon 03-Mar-14 14:18:18

3isourmagicnumber great user name (though I read it at first as 3-sour-cucumber! Sorry for your CP. Out of interest, when does a CP actually become an early mc? Ive had a mc, late enough to be definitely that, and somehow feel that the term CP belittles what you must have gone through. Good luck for your onward journey....

cake i'm feeling a bit crappy about the whole thing too. I'm on CD 17 and due to ovulate on Wednesday . DH is being a twat generally, not just over this. I did an OPK yesterday, or maybe it was Saturday, it was negative, as I expected but I'd had some ovulation pains and cramps so thought it was worth checking. He noticed it, asked what it meant, I said probably best to dtd anyway every other day until I get a +ve, or EWCM or whatever. All fine. So last night would have been one of those nights, but he acted all surprised because he "thought that the stick meant..." well, meant what exactly? What did he think? Basically he just doesn't listen, or hear, or remember, or whatever. God he really pissed me off, I know he doesn't want another as much as I do, but he does want one, and wants one sooner rather than later if possible. But he is just so unengaged with everything. We need to go out to get DS1 his birthday present, and he wants to come with, but doesn't get it that that means doing it after he gets home from work, which is 8pm. So requires a babysitter. And the only babysitter we have is his sister, which is fine, but he needs to bloody call her as she has her own life and might need some notice. and if we don't do it together I'm going to have to go by myself anyway, and take DS2 with me, who will whinge, and then I'll end up rushing. I actually had an opportunity to do it yesterday by myself with no children with me, which would have been ideal if his sister had told us she was not available. but he would neither phone her, not agree to me going there and then when I had an opportunity. I know I'm going to end up having to go by myself one evening after he gets in from work, or with DS2 whinging. We had a massive row over his complete inability to engage, or listen or whatever. Jeez. liten to me ranting. this should be in relationships, or AIBU, or something! Actually, I posted on another thread where someone had noticed that they get PMS type symptoms around when they ovulate... well, that's probably what's going on here. I can tolerate him being a prat the rest of the month, but just at the point where we need to get on this happens. Oh.. I might just get a puppy instead.

Tranquilitybaby Mon 03-Mar-14 16:39:12

Feeling so sad today, we were supposed to start TTC this week but I've now got to have tests to see if I'm carrying a faulty gene for a heart problem my mums just been diagnosed with. sad

I've got lots of EWCM too, feel so so gutted. :0(

Tranquilitybaby Mon 03-Mar-14 16:40:53

Good luck to those trying this month though, really hope it's your month x

bonzo77 Wed 05-Mar-14 15:48:20

tranquility that must be very hard. Have you had genetic counselling? If you have it will you get your DCs tested? My FIL is a BRCA2 carrier. DH and I decided not to get DH tested before ttc ds1. DH's brother did test as was negative. DH's sister has had cancer (aged 30), has not tested but has regular scans etc. One of DH's cousins is a BRCA1 carrier (inherited from his mother who is related to DH by marriage, not blood). He and his DW had IVF to select embryos who were non carriers. It has not been straightforward. And not something we wanted to do, hence not testing.

Tranquilitybaby Fri 07-Mar-14 16:49:47

Bonzo77, after a good chat with my lovely gp yesterday, he had reassured me that even if I do carry the gene it's def not irresponsible to TTC no. 3. Due to my mums previous health history, the likelihood is her condition has been caused by other illnesses and less likely the gene. Sorry your family has gone through similar worries.

So I think we're going to go for it. The testing sounds very in depth and stressful and I don't think I can live my life like that.

My lmp was 20/2 and my cycle is around 26-28 days, are we too late to try this month? I had a lot of cm around CD10.

MarvellousMabel Sun 09-Mar-14 22:58:25

I've read the whole thread and will post my bit tomorrow - just wondered if anyone had news?

MarvellousMabel Mon 10-Mar-14 18:20:28

I'm 35 and with 45yo DP. I have a 6 & 4yo from previous relationship.

When we got together I didn't think we'd have more children. DP was fine with that, then as time went on we got broody. Chemical pregnancy about 6 months ago shook us up a bit.

About to start TTC again but I'm really wobbly for the following reasons:

My 2 are hard work. They have no SEN and are with their Dad a fair bit but they drive me nuts and I struggle with the chaos and noise.

We'd likely have to change cars

We're done with nappies/bottles and stairgates

Finances are good and getting better. My heart sinks at childcare costs again.

I love spending time with DP on our own as a couple....

God I really need to think about this.

It's just that he deserves his chance to be a father. He's an excellent step-dad to my 2.

bonzo77 Wed 12-Mar-14 19:27:02

tranqulity I think you're doing the right thing, not that you need the approval off a random off the internet!

Welcome marvelous. I also struggle with the chaos and the noise, well, more the noise really. If we have another boy it's going to get a whole lot louder! We are still deep in nappies and stairgates due to DS2, bottles less so, as we're past sterilising. Maybe the father of your DC's is no longer your DP for a reason, maybe a baby with your current DP will be a whole other ball game...in a good way. It's not an easy decision, I think be guided by the way you felt after the CP.

Here, no news really. 8 DPO, AF could come any time from friday, though I'm hoping that the B6 will put it back a bit, what with needing a longer LP etc. We DTD at all the right times this month, and replaced our usual lube (sorry TMI) with something called Balance Active which DH got, it's meant to support the swimmers better than normal lube.

bonzo77 Sat 15-Mar-14 14:54:27

right ladies. look at this. Please!

MarvellousMabel Sat 15-Mar-14 21:13:49

Just seen the other thread. I think yes, there is a clear line x

bonzo77 Wed 19-Mar-14 13:14:08

Well AF showed. We are both fed up of trying. DH says if we're having another he'd really like to get on with it, as he's 40 and wants to feel like there is an end in sight regarding little children, nappies, disturbed sleep (little does he know how teenagers will disturb our sleep with their staying out late, etc...). Anyway, I'm 36, no contraception really since having DS who is 15 months, and definitely been trying at least 6 months, but I think actually more like 8. So I have a doctors appointment in a couple of weeks. We've agreed that we'll exhaust the NHS options, but not go private, or do anything that increases our risk of twins. I reckon I have a blockage.....

MarvellousMabel Wed 19-Mar-14 21:28:31

Oh wow. Sorry - was so sure it was a bfp

maxpower Mon 31-Mar-14 16:16:17

Hello all. Sorry about the afs. Sore boobs for 3 days now which is unusual for me and getting random waves of nausea. Also generally feeling a bit odd. Af not due til end of next week and we only dtd once around the right time this month. Trying not to get my hopes up but will feel better once I know one way or another.

bonzo77 Mon 31-Mar-14 16:43:19

Hi max. I really hope any hopes you have are not in vain! Fingers crossed for you.

Cakecrumbsinmybra Tue 01-Apr-14 12:27:05

Hello bonzo etc al! Sorry I have not been around and bonzo I missed your photo, but it sounds like it was not the news you were hoping for anyway. FWIW I can see a line on it! On CD16 here, of what must be cycle 9 (!), so we have been dtding. Still haven't been to Drs. Even more spotting this month and I think it is my body ageing. I did do one of those menopause tests (don't know how accurate they are), and it was negative. DH is still onboard but as each month goes on, the idea of a newborn is less appealing! If we had got pg when we started, then I would be about to have one! And if I'd got pg when we had stopped using contraception then I would have a proper baby by now. Scary. A couple more attempts for us I think, then I'm drawing the line. Good luck max. Good luck at Drs Bonzo.

bonzo77 Tue 01-Apr-14 21:24:54

I had too many things to discuss with the dr, 2 of which were higher priority than this. She made me rebook for the ttc thing, so will see her next Monday.

Not sure what CD I'm on. Or how long we've been trying in earnest. I'm still temping, and this month we are dtd every other day. Too tired for more than that, and it should theoretically be enough. DH gets sore, as do I (see my other thread I'm on a the moment). Weirdly I've had ovulation pain on the wrong side (the left) this month. Wtf is that about?!

Passthebiscuitspls Wed 02-Apr-14 17:57:03

Hey everyone, can I join pls?
I'm 32, DH 34, we have a DS 6 and DD 2 and on our first month TTC number 3! He's finally agreed that we can have a third so I'm very excited!! I have long cycles of around 34 days so have stopped the pill, had a bleed and am around CD 10, last two babies were conceived on cycle 4 so. Hoping it will be a fairly short wait again! I just need to keep DTD longer in my cycle, that was my secret last time ;)
Looking forward to chatting to you all soon! Xx

bonzo77 Wed 02-Apr-14 21:51:08

hi passthebiscuits, course you can join! I definitely agree that DTD for longer in one's cycle works. My last 2 pregnancies were definitely the result of that (one was a mc, but YKWIM).

Passthebiscuitspls Thu 03-Apr-14 12:38:57

Damn it! I've started to bleed mid cycle, I'm on day 10 now. It's old blood and a tiny bit I.e. Doesn't warrant a tampon etc but should I count this as CD 1 or stick with CD10? I can't have ovulated yet so my cycles must be a bit out as I've come off the pill. I thought I'd timed it so well to coincide with when I ovulated as well, bloody body!!

bonzo77 Thu 03-Apr-14 18:26:47

i think day 1 is the first day of red flow. no red flow.... keep counting, so stick with CD10 etc. Doesn't mother nature wind you up?!

Cakecrumbsinmybra Thu 03-Apr-14 18:57:05

Welcome biscuits!
CD18 here now. Have had so much spotting around ov this month. Didn't get a positive on the opk's though - same last month. Do you think this means anything? Had ov pains as normal. They are a different brand of opk's. Who knows? At nearly 39 I am expecting all these different things to be happening to my body anyway. It just makes me so glad that I already have 2. My brother and his wife haven't started ttc yet, although they say they want kids. She is my age. I so hope they have not left it too late.

Cakecrumbsinmybra Thu 03-Apr-14 18:57:47

Any news max?

maxpower Sat 05-Apr-14 19:51:23

Nothing definite to report yet but still got sore boobs and I think they've got bigger - I have nothing to boast about in the nork department but I'm pretty sure they look fuller. Still got another week to go though.

I've been reasonably good at distracting myself over the week due to work but I've got this coming week off so it might be more of a challenge. I think I'm ready for a positive result as I've been having my mandatory panic about the possibility of actually being pregnant and got most of that out the way!

It's my birthday in a few days :-)

ELR Sat 05-Apr-14 21:30:59

Evening ladies, not been on here since late November. DH and I took a break in December from ttc as wanted to enjoy Christmas. We then decided in January that we were happy with two so stopped trying.
This week both DH and myself have had dreams about having a third which has got us thinking again!!! Had a chat with DH this morning and we both agreed a third would be nice but prob not the most sensible thing to do.
But now I find myself here again on mumsnet in the conception threads! Aarrgggg I just don't know, I know I would only have to say the word and DH would be ok to start trying again but do I really want a third?? Yes, yes, yes, but then no no no!

Cakecrumbsinmybra Sun 06-Apr-14 12:12:09

Oh ELR, bless you, it is really tricky isn't it! We are going to stop ttc soon. And part of me is really happy with that as life is getting so much easier! On 2WW but I don't feel pg at all, as usual!

Passthebiscuitspls Mon 07-Apr-14 12:05:46

Why is it so much trickier to decide to have three for everyone? It seems like such a bigger decision doesn't it? My DH has gone back and forth for ages and thinks that we're just starting to come out of the baby phase and everything's getting easier, don't think he fully gets it! Bless him. I'm starting to have a few ov like pains, I'm not sure if it's gonna be early but I don't want to use OPK's yet so I'll just have to guess I think! Fingers crossed for everyone else! Xx

bonzo77 Mon 07-Apr-14 14:02:16

I guess a third is a luxury. You have your first because you want a baby band your second to provide a sibling for the first, because 2 is company. And the third, you want to have because, well fuck it, let's see if we even can!

Over here, well my chart is like a map of the alps. Not sure why. My GP has agreed to blood tests and an ultrasound, then a referral to an NHS fertility clinic after those results are in, also asked DH for a repeat SA. She's warned me that as I've already had children they won't offer me much.

Cakecrumbsinmybra Tue 08-Apr-14 13:02:23

Good luck bonzo. Nothing to report here. Only that AF will be due when I go on holiday on Sunday. Typical!!!

Passthebiscuitspls Wed 09-Apr-14 08:38:14

Good luck Bonzo! And Cake; that is sooooo Sod's law isn't it! Damn it! I timed coming off the pill so that on our holiday next month I'd be ovulating, think it's all going a bit wrong with that! I keep spotting, had ov pains yesterday and the day before which was only CD15, used to ov on CD20. It never works out the way you want it does it? Xx

Aeth1992 Wed 09-Apr-14 10:23:28

Yes the third is a luxury isn't it? I have one of each but want to ttc with new husband.

We agreed to start in July but both of us have been very lax with condoms. ie still in wrapper

I think I did ovulate in the last few days, so could be pg?

ZombieBelle Wed 09-Apr-14 23:30:09

My implant came out 2 weeks ago, I've been broody for months, and though we had decided to stop at 2 DC, i desperately want another. DH has forms to fill in for a vasectomy and I feel like time is running out.

First pregnancy was fine until i went into labour. I started bleeding horribly, it was placenta praevia (sp?) so emergency csec

2nd was ok, but horrific spd in the last trimester.

I know I should be happy with the 2 wonderful DC i have already, and all I really can say in favour of a 3rd is that I want one. We're in a 2 bed flat so space is an issue, though we have been looking at moving

I guess I just need someone to tell me I should suck up my wants. I don't need another child, i just really really want one. I should concentrate on my 2 dc (5 and 3.2) shouldn't I. I should enjoy the life me and my family have instead of pining for another.

Sorry if this is the wrong place to post this. I know its something DH and I have to decide for ourselves, but we keep backwarding and forwarding about it. My main concern is how this pregnancy could affect me, I know every one is different but i'm worried that my history could make it very bad.

ZombieBelle Wed 09-Apr-14 23:36:52

should add 2nd preg was a c-section (elec)

Aeth1992 Thu 10-Apr-14 07:37:58

My 2 Dcs were also born by c section. They're now 6&4. Hopefully a 3rd section will be ok.

Passthebiscuitspls Thu 10-Apr-14 10:11:53

Mine were sections as well. The first was emergency and quite traumatic. The 2nd was elective and a much better experience! I'm hoping a third will be ok too. Pregnancy has been a breeze both times so hopefully it will be again. Does anyone feel like you're pushing your luck with a third pregnancy, good labour and a healthy baby? I always used to think this but I'm pushing it to the back of my mind now we are going to do it! It WILL be fine! ;)
Zombie; if you're anything like me, even if someone told me it wasn't a good idea, I'd still want it! Only you two can decide. And other peoples opinions are based on what they want and what they think is acceptable for them so I try not to take too much notice. My mum is against people having three children. She thinks the dynamics are wrong, one always gets left out, you can't afford three etc etc. I haven't told her we are trying as I know what she'll say. It's right for our family, we have room for another and it will complete our family so I'll smile and nod when she tells me I shouldn't but I don't really listen!
I'm on day 17 and still not sure I've ov'd yet. I'm going to keep going until after CD20 as my cycles were always long. I've had spotting in between and either period pains or ov pains, I can't decide which, arghhh! Xx

Aeth1992 Thu 10-Apr-14 12:54:22

Yeah I used to worry about the luck pushing thing but I won't let it hold me to random. I know people who have had complications whether it's their first or 5th. There must be enough babies to go round!

I've just ordered some cheapy pg tests on amazon. Will test on Easter Monday. Obviously unless AF shows up!

maxpower Sat 12-Apr-14 14:18:29

Just got a bfn but still having pg symptoms. Tbf I've never tested this early before. Will test again in the morning.

Passthebiscuitspls Sat 12-Apr-14 18:10:06

Oohhh Max; when are you due AF? How exciting, I'm crossing my fingers for you! Let us know how you get on.
I'm officially in the 2WW. Ovulated yesterday so I'm hoping we've done enough. To be fair, I've never been able to plan babies, and they have both taken 4 months so it would be extremely lucky to be the first month. And a Christmas baby which wouldn't be ideal but what will be will be! Xx

maxpower Sun 13-Apr-14 15:52:12

Another bfn this morning but still no af. Will see what happens during the week and if no af test again on Friday.

maxpower Sun 13-Apr-14 18:48:45

Af arrived :-( feel bad for getting dhs hopes up. The only times I've had pg symptoms I've been pregnant so I felt pretty confident. But cest la vie. Here's to next month.

busyDays Sun 13-Apr-14 19:35:58

Sorry to hear that max. I completely know how you feel about getting your hopes up.

I thought I would pop back in to update. I haven't been around since Feb as we are not trying yet. I would love a third straight away but dh is taking some convincing. A few days ago he said that he is open to the idea of trying next year and recently we have not been using much contraception so things are looking up for mesmile

bonzo77 Sun 13-Apr-14 21:29:51

Oh max, it's poo isn't it. I've had that before... AF late, "symptoms", bfn then AF arrives. You get your hopes right up.

Cd27 here. Feeling neither pregnant nor premenstual. Which means nothing. I don't think we dtd at the right time this month anyway. Otoh previous experience suggests that making appointments to investigate results in a BFP. Sometimes without actually seeing the doctor. And I did see the gp to get the ball rolling last week, so who knows.

BeginnerSAHM Sun 13-Apr-14 22:22:24

Hello - just posted on another TTC thread to but thought I'd pop by and say hello here too. Just decided to go for number 3 (well, I wanted to years ago...). Am 39 and eldest is 6, youngest is 4 1/2. Want to get pregnant soon so I can sneak my last baby in before I'm 40. Only started trying a few days ago though so we'd have to be extremely lucky to get pregnant this cycle. (Technically possible as think ovulated yesterday!)

Anyway - hello! grin

BeginnerSAHM Sun 13-Apr-14 22:26:42

Zombie - it's not fair for your husband to get a vasectomy if you still want a third. You need to use reversible contraception... My husband originally wanted 3 under 3 (!!) then went off the idea for 4 years. He's only just changed his mind - he knows how much it means to me and he's a brilliant Dad (and loving being one particularly at the moment). I'm not saying your husband will change his mind but he might. The only advice I'd give is let it settle - don't mention it for a while but do say that you really don't want him to get a vasectomy yet.

Passthebiscuitspls Mon 14-Apr-14 12:54:31

Really sorry Max, bloody Sod's law isn't it! I've done that a few times over the years and been genuinely shocked when AF arrives, I thought it was in the bag!

Bono, fingers crossed that does the trick. I'm crossing my fingers for you.

Hi beginner, I'm in the same boat in that I've just managed to convince my DH to try for a third, he def took some convincing but we're there now and this is our first cycle too. It's not looking hopeful for me though as my body is doing really weird things to me since coming off the pill. I've had Ov pains for about 10 days now, thought it actually ov'd on CD 18, pleased with my self as DTD CD14, 16 & 18. Couldn't yesterday as DH not here (CD20) you guessed it, I Ov'd then! Change in cm so I'm sure it was then and had pains as well. Damn it! So, I'll DTD tonight and hope that 2 days before will catch. God it's tricky! Xx

Passthebiscuitspls Mon 14-Apr-14 12:55:04

*Bonzo! Xx

BeginnerSAHM Mon 14-Apr-14 15:48:17

Hi passthebiscuits! 2 days before is ideal, isn't it?? So the sperm is ready and waiting (and already travelled to where it needs to be) when the egg pops out? Fingers crossed for you anyway....!

Passthebiscuitspls Mon 14-Apr-14 18:08:47

Beginner; after googling I think it is! ;) you'd think I'd be pretty clued up after having two before but I thought it was better to DTD on the day of ovulation but it says everywhere that 2 days before is the best day to do it as you say, the sperm will be ready for the egg. I remember when we were TTC my second, we also missed the day of ov, must have done it either the day before or 2 days before, that produced my DD so I don't know why I didn't remember that. Although Google did say that doing it on that day produces girls! My girl is a total whirlwind, although gorgeous and sweet, so kind of hoping for a more chilled third!! ;) we'll see, fingers crossed.

Anyway, we can be in the 2ww together! Xx

BeginnerSAHM Mon 14-Apr-14 19:34:37

Great - like having a 2ww buddy! I have one of each already too but DS is the whirlwind (never ever stops talking but is v sweet/sensitive and sticks to the rules!) and DD is quietly feisty. She's always been an AMAZING sleeper though so would love to get another one like that... Any sort is fine by me if it's healthy though. DS didn't sleep through until he was 3 1/2... Used to regularly wake between 4.30 and 5.00, no matter what we did, and then start looking a bit tired at about 8.15 when the nanny turned up and we went to work...shock. T'was v tough!!

Right - am NOT going to obsess. And not testing until bank holiday Monday. Restrained by my standards wink.

Passthebiscuitspls Tue 15-Apr-14 08:59:29

A ha, it's amazing how different they are isn't it! My first is so chilled, v calm and laid back and