Roll up, roll up, come enjoy the BESH funfair!

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MyNameIsWinkly Sat 12-Oct-13 09:31:04

Come to the BESH funfair - we have a coconut shy, apple bobbing, dodgems and much much more. The prizes? Shiny new BFPs, of course. You can only go on the rides if you're a barren 30plus-er, the entrance fee is one completed BESHtionairre.

MyNameIsWinkly Sat 12-Oct-13 09:32:54

DRAF!!!! Omg!!!! Enjoy that cuppa. How are you feeling? <Utterly fails to hook a duck with excitement>

Sorry if anyone doesn't like the feme. It was an emergency.

evilgiraffe Sat 12-Oct-13 09:35:28

Hahaha, I didn't even notice that I managed to announce a BFP on post #999 grin Still mostly feeling in total shock, to be honest.

JethroTull Sat 12-Oct-13 10:12:34

New Fred & a feck

JethroTull Sat 12-Oct-13 10:14:17

Oh I pressed post too soon in my excited state!! A win! A win!!! <runs off to find tassels>

MyNameisBuggerlugsAndIAmABESH Sat 12-Oct-13 10:34:23

Draaaaaaf you is updiffed!!!!!!!! grin grin grin grin

<feels sick after too much candyfloss>

eurochick Sat 12-Oct-13 10:36:50

What a way to end the thread! Hurrah!

Get off the dodgems NOW draf - you have a baybee on board. smile

Draf!!!!!!!!!!!! You're a differ grin

KatAndKit Sat 12-Oct-13 12:02:59

Woo hoo!! What great news to come home too. Congratulations!!

MyNameisBuggerlugsAndIAmABESH Sat 12-Oct-13 12:04:56

Welcome back Kat where have you been? Anywhere nice?

I'm currently torn between throwing everything next cycle, cb ov sticks, loadsa shagging etc or just not charting / watching / day counting....I'm an all or nothing sorta girl.

Fabuluce Sat 12-Oct-13 12:19:49

Whoop whoop draf that's awesome news!!

KatAndKit Sat 12-Oct-13 12:58:06

Been on honeymoon to marrakech. Typically at wrong time for ttc but funsechs is better for honeymoon anyway. On droidwatch today. No preg symptoms at all.

MyNameisBuggerlugsAndIAmABESH Sat 12-Oct-13 13:29:51

Oooh how lovely Kat! You've arrived home just intime for the shit weather!

I read a really good fred in fertility and have decided that not having children, is not an option so I'm going to continue the cb opks and carry on giving this everything I have before the inevitable IVF time arrives.

Sounds like a plan Bugs, when is your IVF appointment?

MyNameisBuggerlugsAndIAmABESH Sat 12-Oct-13 13:48:01

November sometime. We get a 'call' and have to.go do.all.the.paperwork then start stabbing on my next droid.....although the clinic we'll be at (Care in Manchester) shuts down for 3 weeks at Crimbo so it will depend how it falls with that and whether I'm short or long protocol so it could actually end up being in Jan that I start the stabbing.

Is it worth giving them a call just to say droid has arrived, so they can potentially work out how your cycles might fit in, or does paperwork (the yawny part) have to be done first?

MyNameisBuggerlugsAndIAmABESH Sat 12-Oct-13 15:47:21

The paperwork has to be done. Its all the legal & ethical shiz. We'll also need all the blood tests again for hiv etc.

GingerScouse Sat 12-Oct-13 15:59:32

Amazing news draf!!!

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Sat 12-Oct-13 16:13:31

Tassling with my enormous boobs for you, draf!

Waves at rest! I am hiding while spotting and enjoying myself w SB abroad... 13 sleeps til scan!

FizzyFeet Sat 12-Oct-13 17:14:22

Hurrah!!!! draf that's such awesome news!

<strips off to nipple tassel>
<goes on the waltzers>
<decides not to mix metaphors>

Hooray, hooray, this is further bolstering my belief that ivf can work and DOES work!

evilgiraffe Sat 12-Oct-13 20:47:52

Thanks all smile we are still stunned, can't quite believe it is real.

IVF paperwork pissed me off, especially all the "are you really fit to be parents" bits. It's an entirely unethical hoop to have to jump through. All the ethics bits are fine though, just a big headache.

cherrycoconut Sat 12-Oct-13 21:13:14

Certainly left a good cliffhanger on the last fred draf hurrah!
<unpacks tassels>
<gives it some for draf>
<falls asleep on ghost train>

Ugh hags I've driven 400 miles in the last 24hrs. It's sooo good to be home and sitting on my own sofa with ROCH though. Off to catch up with him now.

MyNameisBuggerlugsAndIAmABESH Sat 12-Oct-13 21:18:00

We have to answer questions relating to our parenting abilities???? WTF. I thought it was mainly ethical stuff!!!

evilgiraffe Sat 12-Oct-13 21:39:25

Well, stuff like "are you a paedophile", "have you ever been convicted of domestic abuse", that kind of thing. I sort of see the point, but it really shouldn't be an issue - otherwise why not sterilise convicts? Oh right, it's unethical...

MyNameisBuggerlugsAndIAmABESH Sun 13-Oct-13 10:25:40

Oh great. I can't wait for that!!!

Draf how you feeling?

I'm baking today and having a Luther-a-thon.

MyNameIsWinkly Sun 13-Oct-13 11:44:05

Today I am mostly doing nothing, then starting work at 10pm. There may be a nap in there somewhere.

How's the baking going? My banana loaf the other day obstinately refused to rise. Still ate it though.

My stomach hurts a bit today, which I assume is unconnected to the unrisen loaf. Entering "droid any day now" territory, poo.

How's everyone else?

evilgiraffe Sun 13-Oct-13 11:50:39

Still stunned grin

The paperwork is not so terrible, bugs, just those questions rather surprised us!

I am also in the baking club; we are going out for dinner at friends' this evening, so I have just put a key lime pie in the fridge so we can take it with us later. Technically not baking, I suppose, but still pudding so it counts, right?

MyNameisBuggerlugsAndIAmABESH Sun 13-Oct-13 12:25:49

I've never made a Key lime pie. draf its something on my 'to do' list though. I bake the banana loaf from the bc website and it always comes out fine.

KatAndKit Sun 13-Oct-13 15:11:11

Where the fuck is droid? Was expecting it yesterday. That would have been 15 days from positive opk therefore assumedly 14 dpo. Used to have 13 day luteal phase when i was ttc before. No sticks in house at all. No symptoms at all. Headfuck

ivf paperwork sounds ridiculous. Nobody asked me if i would be a fit parent.
people at the ivf stage are people who desperately want a child, not people who have stumbled into parenthood without a thought.

eurochick Sun 13-Oct-13 16:16:03

I found the "would you be a fit parent" stuff really offensive. It's a hoop the fertile don't have to go though and I think it's largely to avoid Daily Mail type "paedo has child thru state-funded IVF" type headlines. Harrumph. I've now filled them out at 4 clinics too (NHS, IUI place, Create and potential new clinic). Sigh.

draf is it sinking in at all yet?

We've spent the weekend at a friend's. They have 2 kids and she's pregnant with a third. But it was fine. Lovely actually. I am surprised I am this sane with the due date approaching.

MyNameisBuggerlugsAndIAmABESH Sun 13-Oct-13 19:06:27

Kat when do you intend to Poas? Do you not need to know pretty pronto if you're diffed for the blood thinning jabs?

Euro glad you're feeling ok. I'm fine being around baybees but its when I get home that it hits.

evilgiraffe Sun 13-Oct-13 22:05:16

When our consultant referred us for IVF he was very clear that he found having to ask us the fit parent question extremely distasteful, but it's a legal requirement. I think you're right, euro, it's about the headlines more than anything else. Imagine the uproar if anyone suggested sterilising everyone convicted of physical abuse? At best, it's a demeaning set of requirements - who has the right to judge whether someone else should be allowed to reproduce?

Glad you're okay so far, euro. It really is a shitter.

On a happier note, I've just read back through the thread - happy honeymoon, Kat! smile When we got back from ours people kept asking "did you have a nice time, what did you do". It's quite difficult to sound interesting, truthful, and remain appropriate for polite company when the answer really is "we slept, ate, and had a lot of sex"... grin

Key lime pie (aka lime cheesecake) went down a treat. Hurrah for puddings! The idea of diffment still feels very much like a made-up thing; HOTB keeps calling me a faker with an expression of stunned bafflement on his face grin He was even more stone-cold certain that it wouldn't work than I was, so has been completely thrown for a loop.

How are you feeling today Draf, any sign of it sinking in yet?! I presume you're getting an early scan as it's an IVF win?

evilgiraffe Mon 14-Oct-13 10:57:54

Not really sinking in, Frank, but I am about to call the GP to make an appointment - seems a bit surreal! Yep should be getting an early scan in about three weeks, so we're back to letterbox watching for a date smile Despite taking the mick out of HOTB at the time, I'm pleased he took a photo of yesterday's test, so I can remind myself that it is not, in fact, a dream grin

I did that! Had a photo of the three tests on my phone to look at during the day. My internal monologue for the first few weeks was pretty much "Oh my god! Oh my god! Oh my god!" grin

Draf SO sorry I missed tasselling on Sat for you. Will put in extra effort now <swings large knockers round room a few times giving Draf a black eye> OVER THE MOON FOR YOU!
What did the clinic say? How are you feeling?

JethroTull Mon 14-Oct-13 18:20:34

Draf I POAS every day for about 6 weeks after my BFP. I could have made a sculpture out of all the piss sticks! It was reassuring to see the line though.

MyNameIsWinkly Mon 14-Oct-13 18:36:32

LOL at the piss-stick sculpture grin

draf I'm sure it will start to sink in soon.

kat any POAS news?

I reckon I'm about 10dpo and fed up. It probably doesn't help that I'm on nights and tired, but I'm so utterly fed up with the never ending cycle of frustration and disappointment.

evilgiraffe Mon 14-Oct-13 18:37:09

Hehe, Jeff, I daren't POAS now in case I jinx it! Managed not to this morning, so I think I've broken the urge especially as all the sticks I have left are out of date and HOTB won't let me get more

Thanks, Merk! The clinic called back while I was driving, so talked to HOTB - all the expected stuff about what not to eat, and to expect a letter with a scan date in the next ten days or so (scan should be three weeks from now, approx). She said "cautious congratulations", which is about right, I think. We're both trying not to get too excited just in case, though are constantly upping our joke-guesses for how many (of the two) embryos implanted and if either/both have divided into twins... HOTB is currently going with seven hmm shock grin Embryos are currently nicknamed Luke and Leia, because we are not cool at all...

Enough about me. How's everyone else?

cherrycoconut Mon 14-Oct-13 21:20:10

He he draf septuplets you say, congrats. That's some menkulling going on in your household. Not sure we have enough nipple tassels between us for that.

MyNameisBuggerlugsAndIAmABESH Mon 14-Oct-13 22:27:37

Bloody Hell Draf I didn't realise you had 2 put back. You could be the first OMGIVFTWINZ win for the BESH!!!!!

evilgiraffe Mon 14-Oct-13 22:55:48

Yeah, they put two back because none of the seven that were still alive on day five looked very good - by day six the remainder were very ropey, hence getting no frosties. HOTB (being both a maths brain and good at remembering statistics given by the embryologist) reliably informs me that the odds are slightly more in favour of both having implanted rather than just one, so who knows <shrug>

KatAndKit Tue 15-Oct-13 06:01:43

Bloody hell i have had a crazy couple of days. Bugs comment made me get my head out of the sand. I used a cbfm stick which showed peak ( i know how to read the lines). Sent husband out for piss stick. The good news is that i am pregnant. The less good news is that only two hours after poas i had a small bleed. Expected shortest diff ever and droid by morning but it stopped overnight. Am still pregnant but not any symptoms and no idea if it is viable or not. Doctors today. I thought we had missed the egg this month. I have now bled in four out of four diffments. Even with the minikit i had a bleed so i know it isn't certain doom but i will be happier when i get me some clexane. And some dildocamming of course.

waves to draf and the triplets.

sorry for being an instadiffer. Honest, it took me over a year first time round! Watch this space for scan news, i guess ill know within a month if it is a sticky one or a duff.

MyNameisBuggerlugsAndIAmABESH Tue 15-Oct-13 07:17:17

Whoop Kat thats great news (except the bleeding of course)

Hope you get some answers soon,I know what a headfuck it all is.

<applies tassles under work suit and does little jig>

evilgiraffe Tue 15-Oct-13 08:03:16

Kat! Hurrah! That's fabulous news, congratulations smile <jiggles tassels>

Wow Kat, that's fantastic news. Keeping everything crossed that the bleed is nothing to worry about.

eurochick Tue 15-Oct-13 10:04:29

Blimey kat that is impressive diff speed!

draf I'm loving the menkulling!

FizzyFeet Tue 15-Oct-13 11:00:31

Congrats, kat, that's great! Sending sticky vibes your way. Hope you get some drucks and a fanboy-cam v soon.

cherrycoconut Tue 15-Oct-13 12:26:42

OMG diffs a plenty for the BESH right now, congrats Kat
<whips out tassles for a lunchtime shimmy>

JethroTull Tue 15-Oct-13 16:38:02

Congrats Kat. Thinking sticky thoughts for you & sending some calm positive vibes. smilesmile

MyNameisBuggerlugsAndIAmABESH Wed 16-Oct-13 07:16:24

Morning Hags. How is everyone!

I have a busy day ahead of me so will try not to mn too much. Its bloody gloomy out there and I just want to stay in bed!

evilgiraffe Wed 16-Oct-13 07:54:34

Gloomy here too, but I'm going in to town to get my hair cut, hurrah! I'm also going to look for caster cups for the sofa in preparation for our new floor next week. Anyone got any ideas where to find sticky-backed felt to put on the bottoms of table legs?

Draf, most pound shops, or somewhere like Homebase will sell those felt pads. I'm getting my hair cut today too - final day off work before I have to go back and prepare for an important meeting on Friday.

When the newly diffed are feeling less shocked, don't forget to mark your spot in the PESH fred. No hurry, take your time - it took me about 5 weeks before I felt brave enough to post there.

evilgiraffe Wed 16-Oct-13 08:16:07

Wicked, thanks! It's one of those things you never ever need to buy so I have no idea where to start looking.

I think it will be some time before I'm brave enough for the PESH - currently it still feels very surreal and made-up...

That feeling doesn't really go away Draf! I'm still feeling a bit in-de-nile even after yesterday's scan!

MyNameIsWinkly Wed 16-Oct-13 11:09:56

I got a surprise bfp this morning!

Cluster diff!!!!!!! grin

KatAndKit Wed 16-Oct-13 11:43:01

Woo hoo!! Congratulations winks ! This is really a bumper week for the ESH.

eurochick Wed 16-Oct-13 11:44:49

Bloody hell! It's a cluster-diff!

evilgiraffe Wed 16-Oct-13 13:03:38

Holy crap, winks! That's brilliant grin

MyNameisBuggerlugsAndIAmABESH Wed 16-Oct-13 14:18:37

<Rubs self against winks, Kat, Driz, Draf, Sinks, Frank and all other differs>

Fab news for the BESH indeedy grin

MyNameisBuggerlugsAndIAmABESH Wed 16-Oct-13 14:19:30

Wrote veh long and veh funny post and MN lost it <sigh>

Fabuluce Wed 16-Oct-13 16:27:38

Wow congrats to the extremely recently diffed - what fabulous news - Kat, I haven't even had the chance to know you pre-diffed!! smile

FizzyFeet Wed 16-Oct-13 16:45:46

Woohoo! Congrats wink that's awesome! What a run of luck for the BESH!

<affixes tassels to nipples>
<whizzes down helter skelter>


FizzyFeet Wed 16-Oct-13 21:15:07

Arrived back to find nice big package of ivf paperwork. Drugs arrive tomorrow - hurrah!

euro how are you doing? Been thinking about you today.
<sneaky hug>
<manly arm punch>

evilgiraffe Wed 16-Oct-13 21:59:13

Exciting stuff, fizz! Have you made space in your freezer? I really should ring the clinic and ask what to do with my leftovers and sharps bin...

evilgiraffe Wed 16-Oct-13 22:21:16

Freezer? I mean fridge, obviously <slaps self with the anchovy of accuracy>

Oh, and I got my early scan date today - 1st November, eeeek.

Nokkie73 Thu 17-Oct-13 13:34:45

A fine filly called frankel told me that it's like differ central round here. Huge congrats to twonks (lovely surprise diff action there. Did you relax at all ? Did someone tip baby dust all over your head ?) drizz draff and kat. Rub yourself up against the rest of the BESH like a randy poodle with a big hard on please. More diffs are surely on the way........I can feel it in my water. confused

eurochick Thu 17-Oct-13 13:50:46

Ooo nok how are you doing?

fizz thanks for thinking of me. I'm doing ok. KFZK doesn't seem to want to discuss next steps. Which is somewhat unhelpful as we are trying to book a holiday that doesn't clash with the next IVF round. Which we can't do until we agree when to do it. ARGH.

Enjoy your drucks.

MyNameisBuggerlugsAndIAmABESH Thu 17-Oct-13 14:50:13

Noks how u doing?

Euro I often find if I plant the seed men come round so could you say your piece and leave him to stew?

MyNameIsWinkly Thu 17-Oct-13 15:41:24

norks hi! No I'm pleased to say I was extremely fucking stressed, post mc with excessive fanjo bleeding. Hurrah smile

euro it is shit when the men refuse to talk. HWCA is much the same. Could you get a stack of holiday brochures and approach it from that angle? Like, skiing is good in January (so we could do the ivf cycle in February when we get back)?

fizz have the drugs arrived? Are you excited, or freaked and hiding them behind the old half finished jars of mustard and pesto?

FizzyFeet Thu 17-Oct-13 18:49:13

How do you know so much about the contents of my fridge? twink it's like you've got a camera in there smile

I'm stupidly excited about it all. Feels like it has been a long time coming. It's a weird kind of double-think, though - on one hand I'm convinced it will all work, but my head is still the voice of doom and reminding me that the chances of failure are much greater than the chances of success. It feels very odd to be excited - after 3 years of ttc I had very much got into the habit of assuming each month was a failure. Even when diffed I didn't believe it and was in denial for a week or so. I feel a bit like a newbie again! fully prepared to take all this back in a couple of days when the down regging has kicked in

euro tough going with KFZK. I guess he is grieving too - did he know the due date?

We need some new meat round here, seeing how many PESH we have! Any lurkers out there want to come into the Big Top?

evilgiraffe Thu 17-Oct-13 19:11:49

Well, she is a copper, maybe winks has bugged your fridge, fizz?!?! wink

I felt really confused at the beginning of IVF - not sure whether to be cheerful and optimistic or realistically pessimistic. So I spent the whole time swinging from rock-solid conviction of OMGTWINZ to "not a chance". It's pretty normal, I think. I'm still gobsmacked it seems to have worked - turns out bypassing my endo-ridded tubes was all that we needed to do.

Glad you're doing alright, euro, even if future planning is having a few hiccups. I find that sometimes I need to give HOTB a heads-up on difficult conversations - "can we talk about this at the weekend" sort of thing, so he has a chance to sort his thoughts out first without me there.

Good to see you, noks! <waves>

And yes, any lurkers are plenty welcome. As the latest mega-cluster-diff has proven, bitter gin-swilling barrenness can lead to good things, through a whole variety of means smile

BESHerday Thu 17-Oct-13 19:53:02

* waves * I should really start with nipple-tastic twirling congratulations, I believe.

* sneaks in *
Today was neither fun nor fair. It was my first appointment with the hospital after referral from the GP. The unprepared consultant I saw galloped from a second high FSH reading in three months to: 'IVF is your best chance of success and you should do it immediately as your ovarian reserve is rather obviously failing. Here, let me draw you a graph.'

Man-splaining baby-faced idiot aside, I can promise that insta-diffment is unlikely. The Dude is on another continent for another eight weeks of research, and I have to face that something other than schedules, stress levels, and statistics may be keeping us from becoming parents after more than 18 months.

Perhaps BESH to the core: Not only 35, but also selfish enough to have moved from a good professional career to flirting with academics. Perhaps for you to judge:

1) Do you like gin? (This is compulsory, you must say 'Yes')
Yes, though I almost went blind one evening drinking lethal quantities of G&T at Peter Luger. The first, and only, time I have sent a drink back for being too strong.

2) Men - are you a gold digger or a cradle snatching cougar?
Unbeknownst, I went for the cradle.

3) Baybee-making - to put a baybee in your tumtum, which hole do you use:
a) weewee
b) poopoo
c) foofoo
d) none, you just pray to the baby Jebus.
C, with great lack of success. Open to suggestions.

4) Testing - when someone wonders if they should test for updiff (pg), do you:
a) bellow 'POAS!' at them non-stop and punch them repeatedly in the kidneys till they wet themselves anyway.
b) Sprinkle them with babydust and send them hugs and kisses on lickle baby angel wings.
Not one for baby dust or sprinkles, but I similarly draw the line at punching. Personally I avoid POAS. It's too sad. Never ever had a second line - other than on those ovulation thingies.

5) Is R2D2:
a) an adorable robot from Star Wars.
b) the source of all evil.
All of the above.

6) what colour are your walls?
Some tired off-white, some pistachio ice cream as per landlord.

7) Number of pets?
None, sadly, due to likely future moves.

8) Inappropriate (read: weird) crush of shame?
Tonight, I shall settle for any handsome doctor who tells me it will all work out while I sip whisky, slouched elegantly in a leather chair.

9) Lesbian crush?
Other than the BESH?

10) What are your views on camping?
In principle, or in practice?

11) How much money have you spent on sticks you then urinate on?

i) Oh nothing, I'll probably catch first time and then get the doctor to confirm it.
ii) Over 100 quid
iii) I opened an account on ebay solely for the purpose of purchasing sticks

I can safely say that i) is not going to happen. iv) Cracked after year one. After reading Mumsnet boards I made several bulk purchases of cheap ovulation sticks from Amazon, but am inconsistent in usage. Mainly because I had this vision that it would just sort of work. For all other testing I: Poundland or own-brand.

Finally, tell us how you found the BESH and why you'd like to join us pliz.
I've been lurking and it's sad and lonely to do this alone.

- Signed, not always this bitter. But really: today was rotten. Hello fears, nice to see you were right on target!

* goes off to curse BUT with nipple tassles and much joy about recent news on the thread *
* sneaks off *

Oooh, fresh meat! Sounds good to me BESHerday, pliz to be explaining your journey so far <channels X-Factor voice over person>

FizzyFeet Thu 17-Oct-13 20:36:43

Hello BESHerday, you sound like you'll do alright in here! I'm with you on the gin - there's a fine line between strong enough, and eighteenth-century stomach-rot levels. I have modelled my gin mixing technique on my PIL (as my own parents are not gin swillers shock

You do need to tell us your celebrity crushes though so we can mock you later grin

MyNameIsWinkly Thu 17-Oct-13 20:40:54

Yes I'm afraid admission decisions are postponed until we have male and female sleb crushes smile

fizz I may have been extrapolating based on the contents of my own fridge hides evidence of secret fridge bugging operation

eurochick Thu 17-Oct-13 21:13:49

Ooo, a newbie. Just as we need fresh meat to replace all the differs!

KFZK does know about the impending EDD and he says he's ok about it (bestie has offered to take me out and pour copious amounts of wine down me, so I thought I had better check he was ok being left home alone). But he seems a bit melon collie at the mo.

BESHerday Thu 17-Oct-13 23:03:52

As flattery shall get me nowhere, the crushes:
Alan Hansen blush
Tilda Swinton grin

I rank JOURNEY close to BABY DUST, though IT WOULD MEAN THE WORLD TO ME and I would JOURNEY to BabyDust [TM] if need be.

Actually our journey is short: Neither of us have children. I'm 35, the Dude's 32. I have never been pregnant, never a sniff of a pregnancy. I came off birth control pills January 2012, but kept my legs crossed at opportune times for a few months to prevent getting pregnant for job reasons. Then, there were about six months, when I was travelling a lot, often for two or three weeks at a time, so really it was just scheduling which prevented pregnancy, right? My period s-l-o-w-e-d one month, stopped completely for two months, and off I went to the GP. An initial high reading of prolactin vanished a few weeks later and periods came back. Now, January 2013, now 'it' would happen. Except of course it did not. Months of shagging, periods arriving month after month. So in August, I went back to the GP who kindly sent me off for another set of blood tests at CD3 and CD21. An FSH of 12.3 [argh], and then later a progesterone somewhere around 13.5 [double argh]. Whereas The Dude passed the sperm test with flying colours and interesting observations on test conditions. So, the GP suggested re-testing the FSH, but thought the progesterone with the normal ranges. It rather obviously wasn't but she had also agreed to refer us to the hospital for a consultation and was open about knowing little about fertility so why belabour the point? So, I went in for a blood test on Monday and heard the second FSH result this morning: 14.

I have this vision that this is just all stress-related, or scheduling, or maybe I have some mental block looming in my unconscious - and that I will wake up in a few weeks with a re-regulated hormonal household, but in the meantime... we really have not had the IVF discussion yet. Next steps: ultrasound and a HSG with the NHS to check if at least my structural elements are in working orders. And then another meeting with the consultant in about two months.

evilgiraffe Fri 18-Oct-13 07:42:01

Alan Hansen? ALAN HANSEN?!? Oh, you are so in. That's got to be worse than mine, right? <looks at BESHes hopefully>

And welcome to the Great Machine that is the NHS. It takes a long time to churn you through, but it gets there in the end. When's your dildocamming appointment? Will it be your first?

Fabuluce Fri 18-Oct-13 07:47:01

Welcome to headfuckery land BESHer!

Alan Hansen eh? It's those eyelined sparkly eyes isn't it! smile

Fabuluce Fri 18-Oct-13 07:48:30

Draf what was yours??

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Fri 18-Oct-13 11:52:05

<Marks spot, waves at euro, I am thinking of you, edd are awful, spies newbie, hunts down beshtionaire, will be back>

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Fri 18-Oct-13 12:01:23

Liked the beshtionaire and approve of not testing! After an IVF-chem diffment in August, I have managed not to pee on a stick, and it's 7 weeks tomorrow... I did get a blood test, but if you were lurking you know all that!

Btw sorry about the shittest of days. Fingers crossed the cogs will turn fast for you!

Hurrah for starting, fizz! Mixed feelings are v normal! I still go from it'll all end in tears to OMGIVFTWINZ, despite having only had one put back...

BESHerday Fri 18-Oct-13 17:58:08

I say without sarcasm, the NHS cogs are lovely. It is a fantastic resource. The system creaks, because it was not quite made for 21st-century bio-medicine and is chronically underfunded. I do wish it was easier to get GYN care.

draf dildo-cam sometime in the next few weeks, I guess. I await the letter with bated breath. I am sure it will be a learning experience.

cherrycoconut Fri 18-Oct-13 23:09:18

Yo hags, very tickled by the fridge contents chat, another who can identify with that. g'luck on the intrepid fizz.

Arm rubs to euro on the impending EDD. Tis shit and a little melon collie might be expected. Be good to yourselves.

Welcome to the new blood, with such a presumptuous name how could we refuse?! You're branding's all right, you like gin, it's good with me.

I'm Cherry, 34, married to ROCH, Rock of Coconut Household and I also have FSH ishooos. Mine have been consistently plus 100 so in May this year they confirmed premature ovarian failure, POF. Again, you probably know all that, but I just wanted to say I feel your pain. I know what a shock hearing that feels and it fucking sucks. No-one our age thinks of menopause approaching and robbing our youth.

Don't get me wrong, 14's not all bad, still a kick in the guts I bet? but have hope, there are clinics who do OE IVF at that level. It's definitely not over for you yet and sounds like you're at the right place.

FizzyFeet Sat 19-Oct-13 09:52:41

Morning all. Day 3 of the sniffing going ok so far! I am particularly pleased that my clinic have banned me from the gym so am using that as an excuse to sloth about in bed/ on sofas. Mwahhahahhah.

BESHer hope you're feeling a bit brighter today. My SIL had v high fsh and had successful OE IVF - she had to get a second opinion but the second clinic had no quibbles. Are you eligible for NHS funding for IVF where you live? If not I'd seriously consider skipping the NHS bits and going straight to a clinic (once you've got your head around if, obv).

cherry how are you? How's your sis doing?

<waves to everyone else>

Oh, if we are doing histories, here's mine: aged 32 (for a couple more weeks), married to GFBW - Green Fingered Book Worm. Ttc since Nov 2010. One MMC, two ectopics, no tubes, iffy-looking antral follicle count, endometriosis, just starting IVF #1.

MyNameisBuggerlugsAndIAmABESH Sat 19-Oct-13 11:11:30

Morning all. Hello to the fresh meet BESH although I may have to rename you MrsBESH so I don't confuse things when I refer to you, and the rest of the BESH.

MyNameisBuggerlugsAndIAmABESH Sat 19-Oct-13 11:11:30

Morning all. Hello to the fresh meet BESH although I may have to rename you MrsBESH so I don't confuse things when I refer to you, and the rest of the BESH.

MyNameisBuggerlugsAndIAmABESH Sat 19-Oct-13 11:11:30

Morning all. Hello to the fresh meet BESH although I may have to rename you MrsBESH so I don't confuse things when I refer to you, and the rest of the BESH.

MyNameisBuggerlugsAndIAmABESH Sat 19-Oct-13 11:11:31

Morning all. Hello to the fresh meet BESH although I may have to rename you MrsBESH so I don't confuse things when I refer to you, and the rest of the BESH.

MyNameisBuggerlugsAndIAmABESH Sat 19-Oct-13 11:11:31

Morning all. Hello to the fresh meet BESH although I may have to rename you MrsBESH so I don't confuse things when I refer to you, and the rest of the BESH.

MyNameisBuggerlugsAndIAmABESH Sat 19-Oct-13 11:11:31

Morning all. Hello to the fresh meet BESH although I may have to rename you MrsBESH so I don't confuse things when I refer to you, and the rest of the BESH.

MyNameisBuggerlugsAndIAmABESH Sat 19-Oct-13 11:11:31

Morning all. Hello to the fresh meet BESH although I may have to rename you MrsBESH so I don't confuse things when I refer to you, and the rest of the BESH.

MyNameisBuggerlugsAndIAmABESH Sat 19-Oct-13 11:11:31

Morning all. Hello to the fresh meet BESH although I may have to rename you MrsBESH so I don't confuse things when I refer to you, and the rest of the BESH.

MyNameisBuggerlugsAndIAmABESH Sat 19-Oct-13 11:11:31

Morning all. Hello to the fresh meet BESH although I may have to rename you MrsBESH so I don't confuse things when I refer to you, and the rest of the BESH.

MyNameisBuggerlugsAndIAmABESH Sat 19-Oct-13 11:11:31

Morning all. Hello to the fresh meet BESH although I may have to rename you MrsBESH so I don't confuse things when I refer to you, and the rest of the BESH.

MyNameisBuggerlugsAndIAmABESH Sat 19-Oct-13 11:11:31

Morning all. Hello to the fresh meet BESH although I may have to rename you MrsBESH so I don't confuse things when I refer to you, and the rest of the BESH.

MyNameisBuggerlugsAndIAmABESH Sat 19-Oct-13 11:11:32

Morning all. Hello to the fresh meet BESH although I may have to rename you MrsBESH so I don't confuse things when I refer to you, and the rest of the BESH.

MyNameisBuggerlugsAndIAmABESH Sat 19-Oct-13 11:11:32

Morning all. Hello to the fresh meet BESH although I may have to rename you MrsBESH so I don't confuse things when I refer to you, and the rest of the BESH.

MyNameisBuggerlugsAndIAmABESH Sat 19-Oct-13 11:11:32

Morning all. Hello to the fresh meet BESH although I may have to rename you MrsBESH so I don't confuse things when I refer to you, and the rest of the BESH.

MyNameIsWinkly Sat 19-Oct-13 11:14:33

Morning bugs grin

SinkyMalinks Sat 19-Oct-13 11:29:53

I think bugs is pleased to meet the new blood grin

Hello MrsBESH. I'm a PESH is denial and lurk stalk hang around here occasionally.

MyNameisBuggerlugsAndIAmABESH Sat 19-Oct-13 14:59:24

Its bloody done it again! <throws phone at wall>

Sorry hagz.

MyNameisBuggerlugsAndIAmABESH Sat 19-Oct-13 21:03:29

If its not enough that friends announce their pregnancies on fb, now a crafter I follow (I.e. a business) has put a bump photo on her page!

SinkyMalinks Sat 19-Oct-13 21:36:21

That's pretty random. Is the child for sale?!

cherrycoconut Sat 19-Oct-13 22:07:10

<Wonders does MrsBESH = motherBESH?> if so some serious gin consumption required.

Thanks for asking Fizz I'm doing OK ta, now I've recovered from a fairly violent s&d bug this week anyway. Bleurgh! On the plus side I've tipped off a few pounds in time for my bros wedding next week which is never a bad thing.

Sis is getting slowly stronger - she's having a trial night at home from hosp today and may be well enough to come home next week. She'll make this wedding yet too fingers crossed.

Just thought I'd add, I've been on the banana omelettes a la bugs stylee for brekky the last few days. Bloody amazing with cinnamon and a spot of maple syrup. Absolute ledge, thanks for the tip my fellow BESH.

BESHerday Sat 19-Oct-13 23:56:11

hi bugs

fizzy We're not eligible for NHS funding for another year. Not certain what we'll do yet -

all fingers crossed cherry 14 isn't awful. It was more the shock of seeing it consistently high and to be pushed into IVF immediately.

hello to fab lemons sinks

late night wave to all

evilgiraffe Sun 20-Oct-13 00:51:04

Glad to hear your sis is improving, coco smile

My journee: I'm draf, HOTB (him on the bike) and I are both spring chickens at thirty years apiece, and have been TTC since January 2010. We got diagnosed as "unexplained" in May 2012, and referred for IVF on the NHS in January 2013. I had a laparoscopy in May 2013 which resulted in removal of one tube and a shiny new diagnosis of stage four endometriosis (as severe as it gets). That was followed by three months of hormonal implants and then long-protocol IVF, in which two low-quality embryos were transferred. We got a BFP last week and are still stunned and disbelieving - early scan on 1st Nov may help it sink in, if all is well smile

In other news, we went out to see Captain Phillips tonight - absolutely superb film. Apparently the historical accuracy is somewhat dubious, but then it's a movie not a documentary, so I don't mind. We were late getting to the cinema so had front-row seats - all very immersive, but I was feeling quite queasy towards the end, what with the rolling seas and all. It is another fabulous demonstration of Tom Hanks' acting prowess, and we thoroughly enjoyed it.

eurochick Sun 20-Oct-13 09:39:39

BESHer, if you can afford it, I'd get yourself straight to a private clinic. In most areas you can still use your NHS go when you get to the top of the list (but in some areas you do lose funding if you go private, so it's worth checking).

My journeeeee: I'm euro, 37. OH is KFZK (kung fu zombie killa, for past and present hobbies), 38. TTC since December 2010. Officially "unexplained" although my NK cell test was high and his SAs all hover around the low end of normal. Got diffed on my first cycle of natural IVF but lost it. Due date next week, so likely to be a bit mizz. Did 2 more cycles of natural IVF but only got chem pregs. Going for a stimulated cycle next, and trying to decide whether or not to change clinics to do it.

I ought to summarise my journeeee too: Frankel, 32 married to HWHNN (He Who Has No Name - 38), started TTC in May 2010; 6 months without a period prompted further investigations which led to a diagnosis of PCOS in April 2011. Subsequent HSG and Laporoscopy confirmed no other issues & started Clomid. 5 rounds later no sniff of a BFP and tablets failed to induce regular ovulation. Some more waiting around for appointments before starting Ovulation Induction (low dose IVF drugs injected to stimulate follicle growth but actual sechs used to fertilise eggs). First round didn't work, second round produced a chemical pregnancy, third round was cancelled because they altered my dose too much and follicles stopped growing. Had to wait for droid to show up again, which took another 2 months and then restarted round 3 which produced a BFP in July! Currently almost 21 weeks diffed and still not quite sure I believe it, despite my expanding belly and norks grin

Bugs, sorry about the insensitive announcements, who actually puts bump pics on their business page??

MyNameisBuggerlugsAndIAmABESH Sun 20-Oct-13 20:10:57

Oops I forgot my intro.

I'm bugs (or lugs) Both GP (ginger pig) and me are 31. We've been ttc since Jan 2011 and I've had 2 mcs and 1 cp whilst taking clomid. I stopped clomid in June and was placed on the waiting list for ivf so am due to start stabbing soon. There is no reason for the teflon womble so we're throwing everything we can at having a natural diffment before ivf and if/when we get a win I'll be stabbing fragmin to thin my blood (although there's nowt up with it).

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Mon 21-Oct-13 07:07:17

Morning hags! I am back from the escape w SB! France while diffed is a challenge! In a good way smile My story for mrsBESH, both 34, TTC since 2010, totally unexplained, 1 mc 2013 after SO IUI, 1 chem diffment after fresh IVF, now 7 weeks after FET. Eek.

MyNameisBuggerlugsAndIAmABESH Mon 21-Oct-13 07:27:49

erm, having a vivid dream about having sex with someone else whilst your husband is laid next to you is alright yeah? blush blush

SinkyMalinks Mon 21-Oct-13 07:34:17

Yeah. Standard Bugs! Although, generally my dreams are with totally unappealing people so I don't feel so much blush as envy...

Totally fine Bugs, though you are going to have to tell us who you were dreaming about wink

Oh and welcome back Drizz, do you have an early scan coming up shortly?

MyNameisBuggerlugsAndIAmABESH Mon 21-Oct-13 08:50:07

If I say who I may out myself but I will tell you that its someone I hung around with as a teen that I never found attractive (until now!!) It was a bloody good dream grin

MyNameIsWinkly Mon 21-Oct-13 09:20:58

I love a good sex dream bugs, wish I could have one then at least I would be getting some dream action!

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Mon 21-Oct-13 13:46:11

Action, what's that?!? And of course it's fine bugs!

Scan on Friday, cos SB made the appointment, it could have been today...

MyNameisBuggerlugsAndIAmABESH Mon 21-Oct-13 13:52:46

Good luck for the scan Driz. *Sinks how many weeks are you?

Winks how are you feeling? Are you going to have an early scan?

SinkyMalinks Mon 21-Oct-13 15:21:08

Am 19 weeks Bugs. Have 20week scan next Monday. Am, again, starting to brick it. Because nothing can just be simple and easy, eh?

Might bite the bullet and mention on fb following scan, but I'll provide an advance BESH warning first. GHJ has realised there a lot of friends we don't see regularly anymore (living in Ireland, Europe and further afield) but it might be a bit embarrassing to have not said anything down the line...

evilgiraffe Mon 21-Oct-13 15:46:02

Sex dreams are ace, bugs grin

Glad you're alright, driz! <waves> Fingers crossed for upcoming scannage (and sinks too) smile

MyNameisBuggerlugsAndIAmABESH Mon 21-Oct-13 16:39:56

19 weeks???! Blimy that has flown!! Feel free to shout it from the rooftops on fb. You've earnt it.

Right ladies,we've just had 'The call'. We are now at the top of the NHS list and are going for our paperwork shiz on 7th November.

My droid is actually due around the 7th - when can I expect to start stabbing??

JethroTull Mon 21-Oct-13 17:12:49

Good news about appointment Bugs - if it's all paperwork on that day then you probably won't start stabbing until the next droid, also remember that clinics probably close over Xmas so it might not be until the one after that if your dates cross over ( mine did which meant I started down reg drugs mid Dec & stimms on Jan 2nd).

Hello new BESH. I'm Jethro - I've not long had my miracle baybee but like to pop up every now & again with my 2 cents worth & am always cheering the hags on from the sidelines.

MyNameisBuggerlugsAndIAmABESH Mon 21-Oct-13 17:22:59

Thats what I think will happen. So the drucks will be sat in my fridge whilst I menkul away going slightly insane!!! wink

MyNameIsWinkly Mon 21-Oct-13 18:02:01

bugs that's exciting! It'll fly round. How does it fit in with the moving house schedule?

I'm ok at the moment, thanks for asking. It's not really sinking in or feeling at all real. I'll definitely pay for a scan, probably in just over 2 weeks, so I'll have a better idea of where this is going.

MyNameisBuggerlugsAndIAmABESH Mon 21-Oct-13 18:56:07

Jeff I seem to recall you paying for embryo testing and not needing it. I may of course be totally wrong - if I'm right can I ask why you didn't need it? We've also been advised to have it at a tune of £2800 angry

evilgiraffe Mon 21-Oct-13 20:08:16

Yeah, you've quite possibly got a chance at a boozy Christmas, bugs smile

What does embryo testing entail? What are they looking for? That's a hell of a cost too! shock

MyNameisBuggerlugsAndIAmABESH Mon 21-Oct-13 20:19:13

I'm not 100% sure but the consultant has recommended it due to my history of miscarriages. I'm not sure what the associated risks are. I don't want to regret having it / not having it.

I must stay away from other discussion boards. There are just so many women who've had 6,7,8 rounds of IVF with a whole host of tests and still no baby. I hope I know when to give up and walk away and look into adoption.

I've worked out when (roughly) I'll start stabbing............XMAS DAY!!!! Typical or what!!

At least we're a few steps closer now.

BESHerday Tue 22-Oct-13 23:01:06

All the best wishes for the coming scans driz and sinks

Excellent news bugs

Other discussion boards are odd bugs I have yet to figure out how to put together anecdotal information, how to compare my own body, my own story to others, how to choose among diet, supplements, and lifestyle advice, how to make medical decisions. There is such a disconnect between the riches of opinion issued by Google and the sparse, disconcerting office visit. Perhaps it is good that I, we, have an enforced few-week wait until The Dude's back.

hello to all

eurochick Wed 23-Oct-13 10:36:34

Bugs I thought 3 rounds of natural would be our limit, but here we are, planning on #4. I thought three rounds sounded like a lot/enough, but actually, it has all happened pretty quickly and I'm not ready to give up yet, although I am starting to contemplate a life post ttc. That starts at some point in the future though, not now.

BESHer I tend to look a lot at the signatures on other boards, searching for someone with results like me with a good outcome.

Without wanting to bring the board down, I just want to say this. Today is my due date. I never got to meet my baby but I loved him/her for the few short weeks I was pregnant. I think today will be quite tough, but I hope that it will bring me some kind of closure and freedom from the thoughts I have had since my mc of "today I should have been X weeks pregnant and Y should have been happening".

Hugs to all. I know a lot of us are having tough times at the moment.

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Wed 23-Oct-13 10:47:47

Oh euro. I am so sorry. Due dates are the devil's work. Have the cod of comfort, a sneaky hug and a big drink tonight. Due date did give me closure, for a while. But with things like this, it often takes a number of times where things are worse, before stuff is over. Handhold for today.

euro I'm very sorry and hope that you get through today ok. (Sneaky hug)

MyNameisBuggerlugsAndIAmABESH Wed 23-Oct-13 13:24:54

Ditto what everyone said Euro. I've had a couple of due dates and a first birthday and still have no baybee so im there, with you, at your side letting you know that every thought & feeling is perfectly ok. thanks

MyNameIsWinkly Wed 23-Oct-13 13:59:42

Handholding from me too euro, this is a horrible date for you. I hope it comes with some peace for you. Huge love.

eurochick Wed 23-Oct-13 14:10:41

Thanks all. I seem to be more snappy than melon collie so far. Sozzles colleagues...

MyNameIsWinkly Wed 23-Oct-13 14:14:58

Tisn't snappy, tis efficient and taking no nonsense - colleagues need to step up their game wink

evilgiraffe Wed 23-Oct-13 17:27:51

<silently hands euro the cod> flowers

Nokkie73 Wed 23-Oct-13 19:39:42

Just thought I would pop in to say hello again and saw euro's post. Days like this are so hard and so randomly unfair. You must be kind to yourself and just go with how you feel over the next few days. Those around you will just have to understand and give you whatever support you need, whenever you need it. Don't try to be too brave - grieve properly (however that manifests itself) and take all the time you need to get yourself into a good place to start #4.

Hi to everyone else. I am totally fine, thanks for asking. Still rooting for you lot from the sidelines like a demented trollop.

FizzyFeet Wed 23-Oct-13 20:15:43

(((((shameless hug for you, euro)))))

Nice to see you, nokkie.

I haven't much to report - been down regging for about 5 days now. Though I have been a total numpty and managed to leave the plastic cap on the sniffer bottle for at least 3 of those! I realised this morning and phoned the clinic in a panic. They were very kind though they must have been rolling their eyes at my ineptitude! I feel like a right idiot. Just hoping I manage the stabbing ok and don't stab myself in the face or something and lets not think about the suppository too much

JethroTull Wed 23-Oct-13 21:49:05

<passes gin to Euro>
<and Sturgeon>
<manly slaps back>

Bugs yep, you're right. We had planned to have genetic testing as SSG has a chromosome abnormality but as we only had the one embryo the clinic wouldn't risk it.

Fabuluce Wed 23-Oct-13 22:15:30

Hi euro, cuddles from me too. My EDD was last Monday and I was fine until Wednesday when I hit a wall and became an evil grump teary mofo. It doesn't help that in the last 4 weeks 6, yes 6 people I know have successfully managed to have their babies. I think it was getting the results of my immune tests that did for me. Am feeling much better now though - I'm with the others, let yourself run the gamut of emotions, it's far better to let them have their day and be done with it than to save them up. Cuddles again. X

SinkyMalinks Thu 24-Oct-13 08:55:28

How're you today euro? Are work/colleagues being bearable?

<Gentle slap with sole of sanguine-ness>
<and a tickle with some samphire>

eurochick Thu 24-Oct-13 10:29:40

Thanks for all the hugs and fish, hags. I'm feeling better now the date has passed. Aside from the somewhat hurty head from too much wine last night. Ow.

Sorry you have had the same sadness, fab. I hope you are feeling better now.

fizz how are you feeling on the drugs? Hopefully not too bad as you have mostly been sniffing fresh air? wink

KatAndKit Thu 24-Oct-13 14:29:45

bugs did you have karotyping blood tests on both yourself and GP as part of miscarriage testing? I would have thought testing your chromosomes in advance would make more sense than doing it on the embryo but if they did that test already perhaps it is a case of trying every option to give you the best chance.

KatAndKit Thu 24-Oct-13 14:35:16

euro due dates are tough, be kind to yourself and let yourself feel however you need to. I agree that once the date has passed it is a bit easier to move forward as you are past the time when you should have been pregnant. I felt like that after my first mc, although of course it is shit because you always hope to be pregnant again when the date comes round. Have gin and cake and chocolates

FizzyFeet Thu 24-Oct-13 19:11:47

Hope your headache has eased off euro.

I'm feeling ok - but as you say, I'd expect to. Ask me again in a week! I do have a headache but that's par for the course as I have a prior neck condition and a serious amount of work on at the moment and too long playing candy crush last night.

MyNameisBuggerlugsAndIAmABESH Thu 24-Oct-13 19:53:12

Thanks Jeffers. Yes Kat we've had all sorts of tests and our chromosones done but they still wish to do some sort of embryo screening. I'm not sure what it actually entails but I will be asking for more info at our appt on 7th. If it carries risks we'll have to seriously consider if we want it. We're also going to pay for this other thing (that I don't know the name of) something like embryocam or something where they look at the embroys under a special lens or something so not to expose them, or something actually knows fuck all!

I'm ovulating at the moment, my cycles are bang on 28 days since stopping clomid so i'm on a shagathon hoping for a natural diffment as I really want to avoid IVF if possible (doesnt everyone).

Euro glad you're feeling a bit better.

Kat how are you feeling / doing?

KatAndKit Thu 24-Oct-13 20:32:59

Happy shagging bugs my fingers are crossed for a FCFU for you. Once you get differ again will they give you clexane in case it helps?

i am feeling ok, a bit queasy on and off and rather tired. In de nile until i can get a scan which will be at least two more weeks. Constantly paranoid. Did get the.three plus on clear blue though so out of the chemical pregnancy zone at least.

TheBuggerlugsThatActuallyPosts Thu 24-Oct-13 20:43:38

They're going to give me fragmin Kat.

I yearn for a 3+ on a CB digi.

Ironically, my droid is due the same day we go to do all the IVF paperwork shiz! I think I'll avoid piss sticks until the weekend after, you know, to keep my options open incase it doesn't stick. If I have another mc I think I'll pay for my NK cells testing.

TheBuggerlugsThatActuallyPosts Fri 25-Oct-13 06:29:40

Peak fertility and sechs fail do not bode well for a FCFU sad

KatAndKit Fri 25-Oct-13 07:10:10

Arse wipes. First peak day? You could try again later. If you hit the last high day that is almost as good as a peak. I thought i was out this month due to knackered husband at ovulation time but turns out two days early was fine! Sechs fail always depressing though. Its the pressure of it all sometimes

MyNameIsWinkly Fri 25-Oct-13 07:15:15

Arrrgh bugs, sechsfails are so frustrating. angry for you. Any chance of a shag today/tonight? I'm sure you'll not lay your egg for a few hours. Have you managed it at all in the last few days?

It's cold this morning. I don't want to get up.

TheBuggerlugsThatActuallyPosts Fri 25-Oct-13 07:22:25

I'm hoping we manage it tonight although GP is beyond knackered so I'll need to you my powers of persuasion blowjob

eurochick Fri 25-Oct-13 07:58:28

The frustration of sechsfail....

Oh Bugs, how frustrating. Does he know it's ov time?

Good luck for your scan today Drizz.

TheBuggerlugsThatActuallyPosts Fri 25-Oct-13 08:18:53

He does although I've tried not to tell him this month but he knows my cycle so well!

MyNameIsWinkly Fri 25-Oct-13 09:04:52

Bugs I just noticed you name change, I like it! Good luck persuading later. Can you force feed espressos or red bull to gp?

Fingers crossed for driz today.

I'm sure you're all delighted to know I managed to get up. I'm having breakfast in Costa and have discovered their autumnal hot spiced apple drink is delicious.

TheBuggerlugsThatActuallyPosts Fri 25-Oct-13 09:53:02

Sounds lush winks is it a coffee style drink?

evilgiraffe Fri 25-Oct-13 10:45:06

Ooo, spiced apple things are generally pretty nice! <covets>

There's still time, bugs. You could send him suggestive messages all afternoon to (ahem) get his blood up?

HOTB got up at 5:30am today very sneakily, but no need as I'd been awake for fifteen minutes already by then, arrrrgh. At least I was able to drop off again around seven, but waking up at ten is just weird - I feel like a zombie confused

Fingers crossed for good scannage, driz smile

MyNameIsWinkly Fri 25-Oct-13 12:56:17

It's not coffee bugs, I'm not that keen on flavoured coffee drinks. It's hot apple juice with star anise and cinnamon.

TheBuggerlugsThatActuallyPosts Fri 25-Oct-13 15:01:57

still sounds lovely.

GP has to work till 10 so no chance of a shag tonight, sadly.

Oh well, onto IVF it is.

MyNameIsWinkly Fri 25-Oct-13 15:04:09

Wankstains bug sad

SinkyMalinks Fri 25-Oct-13 15:06:31

Arsebadger Bugs. Rubbish.

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Fri 25-Oct-13 16:32:49

Grr bugs!

For those not oh the other place, scan was good! So happy and relieved!

TheBuggerlugsThatActuallyPosts Fri 25-Oct-13 17:00:14

Change of plan hes coming home!! Yey.

Waiting on my doorstep was the official 'reached the top of the NHS waiting list' letter.

I need wine. WIBU to have some?

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Fri 25-Oct-13 17:17:35

Not unreasonable at all! Tho don't drink so much you scupper the changes of sechsing and ironidiffage!

TheBuggerlugsThatActuallyPosts Fri 25-Oct-13 17:25:41

I have eaten a huge amount of crisps and a slab of dark chocolate and now feel a bit guilty for falling off the wagon in last 3 days now that IVF is official. confused

Driz i've seen t'other place. We're all SO SO thrilled for you thanks thanks

Hurrah Drizz grin

Bugs meet him at the door in just your undies & some killer heels - he won't be able to say no wink

TheBuggerlugsThatActuallyPosts Fri 25-Oct-13 18:00:13

Too late, he's home and can barely keep his eyes open. It'll prob be another normal and quite boring TTC shag. I long for a good ravaging <overshare>

MyNameIsWinkly Fri 25-Oct-13 18:10:33

Maybe if he had a powernap?

I'd love a good ravaging. It's been 23 days since I had a shag.

TheBuggerlugsThatActuallyPosts Fri 25-Oct-13 18:13:46

He's dozing on the sofa already. TTC has destroyed my sex life. Its chewed it up and spat it out. It is no longer exciting, spontaneous, dangerous, or flirty.

Hopefully my ttc journey is nearly at an end, one way or another and I can get the old me back.

MyNameIsWinkly Fri 25-Oct-13 18:17:59

I hope so bugs.

Do you know what pisses me off? (Amongst other things). Instadiffers who are all "dp is disappointed I fell so fast, he was looking forward to lots of practising teehee lolz hunny". Ttc/sex issues came very fucking close to destroying my otherwise wonderful marriage. It is NOT fun, NOT exciting, so FUCK OFF.

evilgiraffe Fri 25-Oct-13 18:31:09

Due to hormone implants and then IVF, we've spent the last four months having to use condoms for the first time in years. As much as we hate them, the simple fact of it not being SWI has made sex much more fun. It's a definite plus point of the IVF process, I think smile

Here's hoping you get some when he wakes up, bugs.

TheBuggerlugsThatActuallyPosts Fri 25-Oct-13 18:32:19

Agreed. It is dull as Fuck and I don't feel at all sexy or wanted.

The phrase 'super sperm' makes me feel violent too.

evilgiraffe Fri 25-Oct-13 19:14:01

Hell yes, "super sperm" is vom-worthy in the extreme. Ugh. One of my friends has responded to any FB pregnancy announcements (including that of his own wife) with "the sperm is strong with you" or some such. If he says it to us I shall have to respond with "that's largely irrelevant when pipettes are involved" and hope he shuts up...

eurochick Fri 25-Oct-13 20:22:21

bugs I hear you. I wouldn't have believed that ttc would completely drain my sex life of most of its fun bits, but apparently so.

I hope you get some spermz later.

winkly I completely agree. See also: men boasting about their super sperm. Fuckofffuckofffuckoff.

drizz I am thrilled about your scannage. smile

eurochick Fri 25-Oct-13 20:23:31

Oh. I see over the page two of you have already beaten me to the super sperm comment!

KatAndKit Fri 25-Oct-13 20:49:28

driz great news about scan, am delighted for you smile

bugs hope you at least get a quick one. Its crap when neither of you actually want to do it and especially so when you have to pretend you are all in the mood to seduce him and really he knows it is probably because you got a smiley stick not because you can actually be arsed to have sex. Might be easier to forgo pretence and say, look, last chance for this month tonight can we give it a go?

TheBuggerlugsThatActuallyPosts Fri 25-Oct-13 20:58:33

Sex done and spermz got on the kitchen floor and everythink grin grin

All I can do now is wait and hope its not too late this cycle.

SinkyMalinks Fri 25-Oct-13 21:15:34

So you seduced him in the kitchen? Excellent effort Bugs. Really. 10/10.

Well done Bugs wink

We've not managed sechs for a long time, combination of early scare, me feeling sick and only being together at weekends sad

FizzyFeet Fri 25-Oct-13 22:23:51

Well done bugs! <tips bucket of prawns over you both>

It's been a looooooong time since I had a shag anywhere other than a bed. <envious>

YY to annoying phrases. I got riled at work the other week by a site wide email announcing "so and so's maternity presentation". WTF? Was she doing a PowerPoint or something? Jeez.

TheBuggerlugsThatActuallyPosts Sat 26-Oct-13 08:28:06

Thanks Hags. Oh to be 18 and shagging in bus shelters.

(disclaimer: I have never sagged in a bus shelter)

How is everyone this weekend? I'm packing to prepare for the big move.

TheBuggerlugsThatActuallyPosts Sat 26-Oct-13 08:28:26

or shagged for that matter.

FizzyFeet Sat 26-Oct-13 08:46:47

grin I sag in bus shelters quite frequently!

Having a good weekend so far - went to a great gig last night, currently eatin porridge in bed, then hosting a halloween party later.

Good luck with the packing - label, label, label is my advice!

MyNameIsWinkly Sat 26-Oct-13 08:50:19

I had a nice dinner at a friend's last night. I then woke up this morning with really bad stomach pains, but after about an hour a big poo fixed me <chatty> <relieved>

Housework today then going to a fancy dress birthday party tonight, staying over in a posh hotel. I am inspired by bug's kitchen heroics (and a special commendation to GP also!) so will shave my legs, make myself pretty and see if my luck is in.

SinkyMalinks Sat 26-Oct-13 08:51:03

I tried at ?17. Didn't go well... blush. I'm actually pretty glad I'm not 18 (or 17) again! (But mid twenties? They were a blast!)

I'm doing nothing fun this weekend. Will be working from home and trying o clean away all the dust from having our windows one earlier in the week.

Fun packing bugs? I quite enjoy it to a point and then just wish I could pay someone/burn the rest.

evilgiraffe Sat 26-Oct-13 09:09:25

You tried what, sinks? Bus shelters? Well, oooer missus! grin

Today we are watching qualifying, then going into town to: replenish first aid supplies, choose/buy a new rug, choose/buy a new hoover, and window shop for a TV stand. How boring grown-up is that? I may have to chase pigeons or something to redress the balance...

Today I am baking a carrot cake and doing college work <yawn>

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Sat 26-Oct-13 09:42:55

I am internet shopping for new (work) boots and contemplating baking. Later I might actually venture into town and/or do exercise. Late afternoon is a long-planned facial with a friend.

Tomorrow is blissfully empty. Might meet sister and brood for lunch. Really hope to catch my parents to tell them (but at the moment they are babysitting my brother's boisterous boys, so not really available). Sechsing in kitchen or otherwise might have to be considered again at some point. But I am scared still...

Well done on the poo, wink. It can be such a relief! A good side effect of scan nerves was the temporary reappearance of the ability to poo...

I am impressed and intrigued by shagging in the bus shelter. Winks come and tell us all about it I've always been so DULL.

That sounds thrilling draf. Although packing in my book is worse than picking a hoover. Btw well done for the sechs bugs. The one good thing about IVF was indeed the complete lack of shagging pressure. I really enjoyed it.

SinkyMalinks Sat 26-Oct-13 09:55:33

Ah, not exciting. Teenaged shenanigans. Rather damp and uncomfortable. Me and the bf gave it up as a bad job pretty quickly. I suspect you need to be rather more drunk and in a more temperate climate.

Now, the beach lounger in Greece was better, until we got chased by the police. (And the sand. Ow)

I will stop now. Before I make myself sound totally degenerate.

eurochick Sat 26-Oct-13 10:25:27

Nice work bugs! The kitchen floor too - I'm impressed.

Happy pigeon chasing draf.

sinks I've tried a beach lounger too! No police though, thankfully. And in the sea (brought to an early conclusion when we noticed the curious kid with goggles getting a bit too close). Holidays always give me the horn. smile

I'm not sure what we have planned for the day. We took yesterday off work, so bought stuff for shooting and managed to get a dress for next week's big do, completing most of our tasks for the weekend. I might need to pick up noo shoos to go with it. smile I should go for a run this morning but I really don't feel up for it at the moment.

TheBuggerlugsThatActuallyPosts Sat 26-Oct-13 10:30:26

God Sinks you little minx you.

I've done it on a boat in lulworth cove, outside a school (at night), in a car (who hasnt) on Weymouth beach....erm I think thats it.

We're also buying a new hoover & floor steamer today too. I'm actually excited <saddo>.

We managed it again this.morning. My legs ache grin

SinkyMalinks Sat 26-Oct-13 10:34:52

Al fresco shagging and floor steam cleaner in a single post bugs. I love BESH freds

Euro, in my idle sat am mn browsing, I saw your dress on the S+B thread. Excellent dress- you'll look fab. And a castle? Awesome. I was at a wedding a few weeks ago in a castle, with suit of armour and everything. I should be thankful I'm not drinking, or rather the owners should be, as I didn't even try to put it on.

MyNameIsWinkly Sat 26-Oct-13 10:36:23

bugs you dirrrty girl, good work!

I haven't actually ever done it in a car, but can offer up - round the back of a Leicester Square nightclub, on the beach on holiday, on the balcony (same holiday), and behind a vending machine in butlins <very classy>

euro link to your pretty new dress? Will the do be fun or corporate and stuffy?

eurochick Sat 26-Oct-13 17:58:10

Hurrah bugs!

This is frockage:
Very much not what I would usually go for, but I felt good in it!

The do will be fun. A family member is turning 50. She is not the type to do things by halves, hence the hire of a castle...

TheBuggerlugsThatActuallyPosts Sat 26-Oct-13 22:27:05

Very pretty dress euro.

I've been to a family meal in a so called upper class place. it was totally over rated and full of wannabes. I ordered a Bombay sappphire and he served me beefeater. angry Never get between a hag and her gin.

eurochick Sat 26-Oct-13 23:43:19

Shocking bugs. I hope you poured it over the waiter.

evilgiraffe Sun 27-Oct-13 06:56:38

Isn't that an upgrade? (disclaimer: I hate Bombay Sapphire with a passion) No excuse for not bringing what you asked for, though.

MyNameIsWinkly Sun 27-Oct-13 12:26:41

bugs I hope you had a hissy fit

euro that dress is pretty and fun, you'll look lovely. I'm impressed by your relative going all out - that's the way to do it!

I did not get lucky last night. HWCA drank all the beer ever, and he is a total mess today. He doesn't do it often, maybe once or twice a year, so I'm being kind to him. Also I think I may have thrush, so sex shall continue to be off the menu until I no longer need a scratching post for my fanjo.

SinkyMalinks Sun 27-Oct-13 12:58:06

Mmmmm. Scratchy Fanjo Winks...

Ghj has managed to break his arm, so sex (and, more importantly, the half completed house clear out!) is off the menu. And he's spent all morning sulking/moaning on the sofa. He now decided he can go out after all. I am remaining on the sofa with a cup of tea....

FizzyFeet Sun 27-Oct-13 14:32:25

Hmmmm. Talking of action, I have a dilemma. The fertility drugs say strictly no shagging whilst taking them; however as I have no tubes there is no way I can get updiffed. But BUT I still have a lurking thought that I might be the second person in medical history to have a pregnancy with no tubes (there is genuinely one other documented case). Am allergic to condoms; never tried a diaphragm and never want to WWYD in this position, hags?

MyNameIsWinkly Sun 27-Oct-13 14:50:37

fizz I'm a worrier, so I would probably stick to blow jobs and hand jobs in the meantime. How long is the shag ban?

SinkyMalinks Sun 27-Oct-13 15:10:03

I'm not a worrier and have a bad habit of thinking I know best. I probably would, but not sure ghj would play along!

eurochick Sun 27-Oct-13 15:12:25

fizz what drugs are they? We should be on a shag ban next month as I'll be having the scratch. I will of course be ignoring it. I'm stubborn like that.

Sorry to hear about the broken arm. Is he going to be boy-poorly about it?

winks if you could invent a fanjo scratching post, I reckon you'd make a fortune.

We're just been out for a blow around Greenwich Park (no, not that kind you flify minded hags). Tis proper windy out there. We also went shopping for a friend's one year old, and I didn't even feel like sobbing around all the cute baybee things. Now that's progress.

FizzyFeet Sun 27-Oct-13 16:47:18

Divided opinions I see grin

The drugs are for down regging - nafarelin to be specific. I take them until egg collection (which seems weird to be - you carry on but at a lower dose while stimming). ec is projected for 18ish November, though might be a week later owing to my numbskull approach to sniffing for the first few days. Humph. Might do some more googling on the risks.

evilgiraffe Sun 27-Oct-13 16:55:34

Are you allergic to all condoms, fizz, or just the latex ones? You can get plastic ones, which might be worth a try? Even though you are almost certain not to get an ironidiff (and I'm not a worrier, really), I am very much of the "do what you're told" way of thinking, so would use some sort of contraceptive if possible, and stick to oral etc if not.

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Sun 27-Oct-13 18:25:43

Fizz, we shagged thru IVF except when I felt like shit and refrained after ET and since but that is cos I am scared and still a bit spotty! Handjobs, yes, blows a little sickening at the moment...

eurochick Sun 27-Oct-13 20:11:33

My clinic didn't tell me not to (but I had read on t'internet that some did), so I shagged while downregging. One of the egg buddies got her BFP while downregging. We were both on Burserelin.

TheBuggerlugsThatActuallyPosts Sun 27-Oct-13 21:55:26

We've been advised to use condoms too. Pah.

I'm starting to get a bit worried about the money. We're due to move house in Dec and have treatment in Jan. With the embryo screening and embryoscope and blasto (if we get that far) its 4k....which I'm gonna be about 1k short of and I could really do not to be worrying about the money!

Fabuluce Mon 28-Oct-13 06:55:35

Bugs I feel exactly the same - we are supposed to be doing ivf in November (3rd go, this time with addition of autoimmune drucks) and moving house in feb and the money is vey vey tight. We've pretty much decided to delay the ivf to march/April now to give us more time to get the dosh. Downside is I won't have any excuse not to lift boxes!!!

evilgiraffe Mon 28-Oct-13 07:47:46

It's so ridiculously expensive - I guess we could have gone private earlier, but having good NHS provision meant it was worth waiting almost two years to avoid the cost. I don't see why funding isn't the same across the country.

TheBuggerlugsThatActuallyPosts Mon 28-Oct-13 08:17:51

This round is our 'free' round but the embryoscope & blasto culture aren't included. I think we'll manage it but boy it will be tight. I can always stick a bit on a credit card if needs be although I'm still hoping for a FCFU.

Hold your loved ones close today hags so they don't blow away. grin

TheBuggerlugsThatActuallyPosts Tue 29-Oct-13 12:27:26

Inspire me hags what are you having for lunch? The soup I had was gross and I'm gonna be starving later.

MyNameIsWinkly Tue 29-Oct-13 12:28:26

Might have jerk chicken and rice in the canteen.

MyNameIsWinkly Tue 29-Oct-13 12:36:35

Aw disappointed, it wasn't jerk chicken, and I've had to settle for a crap sandwich. Have some hummus and carrot sticks.

TheBuggerlugsThatActuallyPosts Tue 29-Oct-13 13:07:33

Ive had some crisps <depserate> and feel a bit crap now. I should have done without or gone to m&s for something healthier.

Also is it me or are almost all the slebs diffed? Nadine from girls aloud, Michelle from Liberty x...etc

evilgiraffe Tue 29-Oct-13 13:49:34

I just had a tuna sandwich and an apple. Not very inspiring I'm afraid!

eurochick Tue 29-Oct-13 15:10:36

I went out for lunch with some colleagues from my old firm. Twas very nice. One of them is having IVF, so we commiserated with each other about the crapness of it all.

MyNameIsWinkly Tue 29-Oct-13 15:42:42

Where did you go euro? I am meeting a friend and a smug non-friend for dinner tomorrow and need ideas

eurochick Tue 29-Oct-13 16:25:49

Natural Kitchen. We always meet there.

What sort of place are you looking for and in what area?

MyNameIsWinkly Tue 29-Oct-13 16:47:32

Somewhere not a million miles from Liverpool Street station, that is nice, not eye wateringly expensive, and that I haven't been to before. Should be do-able! Oh and that I can get a table in, tomorrow evening. The Natural Kitchen menu looks nice but the fetter lane one only seems to do lunch and the Trinity Square one is a bit hazy about their closing time.

eurochick Tue 29-Oct-13 16:56:23

From Liverpool Street, I'd head up to Spitelfields. There's loads of choice there. Canteen is usually good but there are loads of other options too.

TheBuggerlugsThatActuallyPosts Tue 29-Oct-13 17:50:03

<nods in agreement despite not having a clue>

TheBuggerlugsThatActuallyPosts Tue 29-Oct-13 17:51:36

BESH. I'm making strogonoff for tea and it requires a glass of wine. I'm meant to be on the 'no booze' wagon in the lead up to stabbing / in the 2ww......I should probably pour the glass I'm drinking down the sink right?

MyNameIsWinkly Tue 29-Oct-13 17:54:29

I would say throw it down your neck bugs, to be honest.

eurochick Tue 29-Oct-13 17:55:49

I'm with Winks.

FizzyFeet Tue 29-Oct-13 17:57:28

bugs that's a tough one! Can you put it in the dinner instead? Stroganoff sounds yum. This evening I shall mostly be eating left over slow cooked pork. It's protein, and thats a good thing, right?

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Tue 29-Oct-13 18:57:19

In yourself, bugs! But I presume it's gone now...

My lunch was home made sandwiches, exciting stuff. And a satsuma with three million pips...

TheBuggerlugsThatActuallyPosts Tue 29-Oct-13 22:29:41

Nope I chucked it in the strogonoff and will freeze the rest for cooking with <polishes halo>.

Its suddenly hit me that I've fallen off the wagon a bit lately with crisps, chocolate,.sweets, booze and red meat and I really want to get back on it especially since the stabbing could start as early as next Fri if short protocol. <freaks out>.

From tomorrow I'm back on the high protein, good food only regime.

eurochick Tue 29-Oct-13 22:34:41

You are an angel, bugs. An angel.

TheBuggerlugsThatActuallyPosts Wed 30-Oct-13 14:18:15

I'm menkulling. Pliz slap me which a swordfish.

TheBuggerlugsThatActuallyPosts Wed 30-Oct-13 14:18:29


MyNameIsWinkly Wed 30-Oct-13 14:29:14

<slaps bugs >

What's fuelling the menkul?

eurochick Wed 30-Oct-13 15:17:42

I'll join in too <ssssssslap>


TheBuggerlugsThatActuallyPosts Wed 30-Oct-13 15:33:56

Ultra thirsty & sore throat. We probably didn't time it right this month so I'm being ridiculous!

MyNameIsWinkly Wed 30-Oct-13 21:18:17

What days did you do sechsing, and what day did you think you laid your egg?

TheBuggerlugsThatActuallyPosts Wed 30-Oct-13 21:30:43

we did the sechs on tues, Fri night & sat morning. I got a fixed smiley aka peak fertilty on Thursday morning. I'll poas if no droid by next Thursday.

MyNameIsWinkly Wed 30-Oct-13 21:37:25

If you laid on Thursday, the Tuesday sperms will be on time, and if you laid on Friday, the Thursday sperms were on time, so nowt wrong with timing I would say. Bit early for menkulling though (says me, gold medallist in the Menkul Olympics) so the fish slap remains in place wink

My dinner out was just ok and I left my nice cardigan behind. Not impressed.

TheBuggerlugsThatActuallyPosts Thu 31-Oct-13 06:31:23

We had sechs fail on the Thurs so there weren't any Thurz Spermz. We'll see in a week either way.

Can you go back for your cardi? I hate losing / leaving gives me the rage.

Have a good day everyone.

FizzyFeet Thu 31-Oct-13 07:10:05

Happy halloween, hags! thlgrin

<slaps bugs with the mackerel of menkul>

Could happen, you never know. Good luck. Distracting yourself for a week!

Not much to report here - still downregging properly now. I have no symptoms at all, which I'm v grateful for (though wondering if it is working as it should be). Euro when you cycle again will they give you a different downreg drug? I don't know if some have worse effects than others?

MyNameIsWinkly Thu 31-Oct-13 08:07:24

bugs Friday sechsings should still catch a Friday egg. Menkul away! As for the cardi, I have the rage with myself, but its about a 2 hour round trip to fetch it, and I'm utterly devoid of energy at the moment so that feels like a hike across the himalayas. However it was a birthday gift from my sister so I might have to toughen up and go.

Happy Halloween fizz thlsmile Glad you've got the hang of the downregging. I'm sure one of the recent ivf-ers had no symptoms with it either. When does the next stage begin?

TheBuggerlugsThatActuallyPosts Thu 31-Oct-13 10:03:44

Another day another pregnancy annoncement....a friend from work who's wife lost twins around the same time as my first mc is 20 weeks duffed. I'm stuck between thrilled for them and green with envy.

eurochick Thu 31-Oct-13 13:36:00

fizz I'm refusing to downreg so it'll be short protocol this time. I'm glad you're finding it ok. I do think I am in the minority feeling so awful on the drucks.

winks how annoying. I hate losing things.

bugs that timing sounds pretty good to me. Sorry about the announcement. They were obviously being cautious if you didn't find out until 20 weeks.

I've just been out to buy spangly shooooooos for this weekend. smile

TheBuggerlugsThatActuallyPosts Thu 31-Oct-13 14:17:55

Apparently his wife is too busy worrying about what could go wrong to enjoy the pregnancy which is a little sad but I can totally understand her fear.

What are the shoes like Euro?

TheBuggerlugsThatActuallyPosts Thu 31-Oct-13 19:19:33

Evening Hags. I'm having an evening doing nothing and watching a film whilst dwelling on the lack of baybee & other peoples pregnancies and thinking I'll never become a mother.

What's everyone else up to?

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Thu 31-Oct-13 19:33:20

Watching telly and trying to stay awake til 9pm...

Just a quick massive good luck for all scary cycles starting soon!

TheBuggerlugsThatActuallyPosts Thu 31-Oct-13 19:41:02

Driz did you down reg for 2 whole weeks and stim.for 2 whole weeks from cd21?

I'm firmly rooted to the sofa too! I feel yet another pre-9pm bedtime coming on grin

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Thu 31-Oct-13 19:50:05

Bugs, I DRed for a week with the pill, then DRing while waiting for droid, about a week, then stims added for I think 12/13 days, then triggering. DR for 25 days and stims for about half of that.

FizzyFeet Thu 31-Oct-13 20:17:01

euro that makes sense. Hope short protocol suits you better!

I'm just in from swimming. Am on an exercise ban but gentle pottering about in the pool is allowed.

Another near fuck up re the drucks today. The sniffing solution comes in two bottles, with a finite amount in each. However it's very difficult to tell when one is empty. So
like a diligent BESH I counted up my sniffs, got the new bottle out of its packaging, put it next to the old one on the work top... And promptly forgot which one was which! I did work it out in the end but not until I'd stood there slapping my forehead like a fuckwit! Sigh. I'm blaming it on the stress.

TheBuggerlugsThatActuallyPosts Thu 31-Oct-13 20:19:35

I thought that was the timescale. Nope I won't be cycling before crimbo then.

FizzyFeet Thu 31-Oct-13 20:38:33

bugs my timescales are a bit different - downregging for 19 days (started on day 21). Hopefully no longer! Then the plan is stimming for about 14 days. Clinics do vary, from what I've read, so you could call yours and check?

TheBuggerlugsThatActuallyPosts Thu 31-Oct-13 21:41:54

We're seeing them next week to plan it all. I'm just an impatient sod so want to know now when I'll be doing what but waiting a week won't kill me.

eurochick Thu 31-Oct-13 22:03:59

Purty but I'm worried they are a bit too high for dancing all night. Maybe alcohol will numb the pain (I'm planning this as my last big blow out before preparing for my next IVF)...

I'm taking the ones I already had just in case! (They are fine but a bit stretched so my toes push through too far so my toes will get scuzzy.)

My long protocol was:
-pill from day 1 (although they skipped this bit in light of my Pill ishoooos)
-downregging from day 21
-start stimming when bleed is over, lining is thin and ovaries are asleep.

I downregged for 15 days before giving it up when they asked me to do an extra week before starting stimming.

MyNameIsWinkly Thu 31-Oct-13 22:08:29

Oh I love those shoes, I want them!

TheBuggerlugsThatActuallyPosts Fri 01-Nov-13 06:50:29

I have some similar shoes and I find myself staring at them when I wear them!! They're very pretty euro.

FizzyFeet Fri 01-Nov-13 07:25:39

Very nice, euro. Are they to go with the dress you linked to t'other day? Am impressed by anyone who can wear heels like that!

eurochick Fri 01-Nov-13 07:50:09

Yep, fizz. The bright pink one. I hope all this qualifies as "fab"!

I haven't worn them yet... I do wear heels at work, so I can usually manage, but those are really quite high...

SinkyMalinks Fri 01-Nov-13 07:54:05

Totally, undeniably fab! I presume there will be photos on t'other place?

eurochick Fri 01-Nov-13 07:57:49

I will doubtless be snapping on my iphone!

TheBuggerlugsThatActuallyPosts Sat 02-Nov-13 08:39:49

my boobs are slightly swollen

menkul menkul menkul
menkul menkul menkul
menkul menkul menkul menkul menkul menkul menkul menkul menkul

evilgiraffe Sat 02-Nov-13 08:47:13

Swollen/hurty boobs remain my main symptom <fuels the menkul> You never know, bugs, IOTO and all that.

MyNameIsWinkly Sat 02-Nov-13 08:49:04

bugs am I right in saying you're not normally one for a menkul?

TheBuggerlugsThatActuallyPosts Sat 02-Nov-13 09:00:46

Not normally Winks, I normally have zero symptoms from ov to droid. My first symtoms in my 3 diffments have been swollen boobs. They're normally so pancake like that even the slightest change can be felt. Even GP said "woah" when I told him to close his eyes and have a feel. I'll hold off testing until next Saturday just in case its another chemical.

MyNameIsWinkly Sat 02-Nov-13 09:02:41

Interesting! <makes note in diary> Can you get GP to hide the sticks from you?

TheBuggerlugsThatActuallyPosts Sat 02-Nov-13 09:05:18

Ha ha are you psychic winks? We've just been discussing it! He's hiding them as there is no way I can hold off until then. I'll just have to occupy my time boob prodding all week grin

evilgiraffe Sat 02-Nov-13 09:21:28

Sounds good! When is droid due! <sets alarm for next weekend>

evilgiraffe Sat 02-Nov-13 09:22:16

Um, punctuation fail. Clearly that was supposed to be a question mark...

TheBuggerlugsThatActuallyPosts Sat 02-Nov-13 11:13:14 either way I'll know by next sat. I'm divided between having hope and being realistic....I hate the 2ww at the best of times even when I know there's zero chance!

MyNameIsWinkly Sat 02-Nov-13 11:25:27

Urgh. Waiting. Always bloody waiting. It sucks.

Lurking with everything crossed Bugs

SinkyMalinks Sat 02-Nov-13 12:49:01

Also lurky mclurkerson over here

<all appendages crossed>


TheBuggerlugsThatActuallyPosts Sat 02-Nov-13 13:28:10

<feels a bit of a fool>

I REALLY don't want to get the BESH hopes up for no reason.

I will provide daily boob updates grin

MyNameIsWinkly Sat 02-Nov-13 13:38:22

My hopes aren't up. I am an out-and-proud pessimist. But your boobs are interesting. Err - you know what I mean grin

TheBuggerlugsThatActuallyPosts Sat 02-Nov-13 13:55:50

I'm normally a cup half full sort of person but with ttcing I'm more of a realist so know it could be a false alarm and even if its not I know it could go wrong.

Have you arranged a scan winks?

MyNameIsWinkly Sat 02-Nov-13 14:02:45

Wednesday bugs. Terrified. Don't know how I'll cope if I've lost a second one so soon.

TheBuggerlugsThatActuallyPosts Sat 02-Nov-13 14:53:33

There is a higher chance of everything being fine than not. Keep telling yourself that.

TheBuggerlugsThatActuallyPosts Sat 02-Nov-13 16:05:20


Another fb pregnancy announcement of someone who's wedding we went to in 2011....a year after ours.....the baby is due in Jan ffs.

All my hope has vanished again sad

SinkyMalinks Sat 02-Nov-13 16:38:58

Sorry Bugs. Sometimes it's never ending.

And don't for a second worry about getting the besh hopes up. Remember we're a cynical, bitter lot. So feel free to menkul as much as you want. And tell us to shut the fuck up if we encourage unhealthy menkulling.

TheBuggerlugsThatActuallyPosts Sat 02-Nov-13 16:44:19

I just feel like its just never going to happen. For 3 years since coming off the pill I've had hope, and it just feels pointless. Maybe having children just isnt meant to be for us. I resent the 3 years I've lost fighting this thing and am so close to throwing the towel in.

JethroTull Sat 02-Nov-13 18:07:00

Hope though Bugs is what keeps us going. Even if we say we're giving up TTC or taking some time out hope is what lurks at the back of our heads whispering 'maybe this time...'

TheBuggerlugsThatActuallyPosts Sat 02-Nov-13 18:31:09

Hope is a bitch

evilgiraffe Sat 02-Nov-13 20:05:52

I know exactly what you mean, bugs - that absolute sense that it will never happen. HOTB saw some IVF person on TV the other day who was talking about managing expectations - she said "no-one ever goes into IVF expecting it to fail". HOTB was all hmm "you're wrong". Every step of the way we (and particularly he) have had very little hope that it would work.

But people can and do get diffed (even the barrens), so who knows, it could be your turn. Fingers firmly crossed smile

TheBuggerlugsThatActuallyPosts Sat 02-Nov-13 20:14:42

Thanks draf. I know my thoughts are totally unreasonable. Hopefully I'll feel less blue tomorrow.

MyNameIsWinkly Sat 02-Nov-13 21:55:11

bugs nothing unreasonable whatsoever about your posts. Hope you feel less blue tomorrow. Are you doing anything nice?

TheBuggerlugsThatActuallyPosts Sat 02-Nov-13 23:39:22

Having another lazy day watching breaking bad & other films. I should be at flyball with my dog but I cba as its freezing, raining & windy as hell. One week off won't hurt him.

TheBuggerlugsThatActuallyPosts Sun 03-Nov-13 08:21:25

Daily boob update:

They're still slightly swollen but not at all sore. hmm

KatAndKit Sun 03-Nov-13 14:13:05

<feels the boobs>
bugs the BESH have form for the good old FCFU. You deserve one. And if you are pregnant, you will be on heparin from the get go wont you? So that will improve your chances. I know what you mean about managing expectations. I currently am quite pessimistic and feel like i sm just waiting to miscarry. Bastarding hospital have changed early scan policy.

TheBuggerlugsThatActuallyPosts Sun 03-Nov-13 14:36:11

Fragmin Kat but yeah I'll be stabbing drucks from 7-12 weeks I think.

Is there something specific making you feel like you're going to mc? Are you on the blood thinning stuff this time again? Can you pay for an early scan?

KatAndKit Sun 03-Nov-13 18:29:18

Why would they wait till 7 weeks?
yeah, i am on clexane again, similar to fragmin its just another brand of heparin. I think it is cheaper than fragmin for the nhs.
i don't have a satisfactory amount of pg symptoms. Only a bit of tiredness, no boob issues, no sickness. Reminds me a bit of my second diff which was a blighted ovum.
i can pay for early scan but i am only just 7 weeks now. If the epu wont scan me before my booking in then i will have to pay. I prefer to be in the hospital, incase it is bad news. The first two diffs i got the bad news in private scans surrounded by pictures of 3d fetuses and adverts for getting your scan turned into a mouse mat or whatever. You don't get that crap in the epu.

but anyway, must try to think positive. I do already have a great baybee and although i will be gutted if this one is a duff, it wont be like it was before.

TheBuggerlugsThatActuallyPosts Sun 03-Nov-13 20:48:12

I've never paid for a private scan. It sounds more like the tat shop you have to walk through at the end of a ride at Alton Towers - urgh.

I'm not actually sure id have to wait till 7 weeks, its only ever been mentioned once but I do know if I get a bfp I've got to ring them asap.

I'm not convinced I'm diffed though. and I kinda poas earlier and got a bfn. Its not my fault GP is shit at hiding stuff, and no I didn't go looking for them.....well maybe a little bit

JethroTull Sun 03-Nov-13 20:53:14

Too early for a definite result Bugs? Step away from the piss sticks!

MyNameIsWinkly Sun 03-Nov-13 20:59:00

bugs!! It is far too early for peeing on things!

The clinic I had my scan in didn't have any tat at all, thankfully. It was a little like a WAG-infested posh dentists. With dildocams.

<slaps Bugs with the Pilchard of Patience> Step away from the sticks <stern face>

TheBuggerlugsThatActuallyPosts Sun 03-Nov-13 21:11:56

If I use any more GP will know I've found them and be upset so I won't do......I just kind of couldn't help it earlier. I have NO will power!!!

MyNameIsWinkly Mon 04-Nov-13 12:09:55

<waits around for Daily Boob News>

eurochick Mon 04-Nov-13 12:50:15

<drums fingers on desk, impatiently>

kat sorry to hear that you are worried. Hopefully an early scan will set your mind at rest. They do say that every diff is different, symptomwise.

I hope you all had good weekends. I had a boozy weekend of Irish craic. Twas great fun. I am v tired now though. (Photos on t'other place for anyone who is interested.)

TheBuggerlugsThatActuallyPosts Mon 04-Nov-13 13:58:08

Daily boob update - I think they're still slightly swollen but I'm not sure I'm not imagining it. (I keep having a feel / look when I go for a pee)

I have a few mild womble cramps but that's all. Its highly unlikely that I'm diffed.

What are your nipples like? <direct & to the point> I'm sure mine seemed noticeably darker and the aereola larger <overshare>

TheBuggerlugsThatActuallyPosts Mon 04-Nov-13 15:06:50

Normal, you know, pointy and that.


Well it is a bit chilly today wink

FizzyFeet Mon 04-Nov-13 18:04:57

<tries to rid self of image of bugs' bullet nips>

I'm sure there's a fairground related joke to be had, but I cba to think of it! We have been shocking at keeping up with the feem.

Fish slaps for you, bugs! Stay strong till the weekend!

euro Irish booziness sounds just the ticket.

Still down regging here. Scan tomorrow to see if it's worked and if I can proceed to stims. Not relishing the thought of the injections! Any tips for me, fellow stabbers?

Fizz, it's not really that bad once you get used to it. My best tips:

- Get the vial out of the fridge half an hour before you are due to stab so it can warm up a bit
- apply an ice cube to the area for 10-20 seconds before stabbing, it really makes a difference
- set a daily reminder on your phone to a) get vial out of the fridge and b) stab

Hope the scan goes well

TheBuggerlugsThatActuallyPosts Mon 04-Nov-13 19:15:27

Evening hags. Been for a nice needles session tonight and just cooking tea whilst eating nutella from the jar.

10dpo and just POA superdrug early test (Better than First response imo) and got a bfn. Am pretty confident its not too early so I'm definitely out this month. Could be starting stabbing as soon as Friday (cd2) if I'm short protocol. Silver lining and all that.

MyNameIsWinkly Mon 04-Nov-13 19:36:13

Oh bugs sad But you're testing really early still. At 10dpo even if it implanted quickly only 2 out of 3 hpts would be positive. Please stop pissing on things until the weekend.

evilgiraffe Mon 04-Nov-13 19:39:18

Stabbing is no big deal, honestly, fizz. I agree with points 2 and 3 of Frank's list, but I never bothered with the ice - too much faff. My gonal-f pens were fine out of the fridge after the first use, so they were not all chilly like my downregging vials could be. I used a cotton wool ball on the needle when removing it (like what nurses do), as I found pressing the skin down made it more comfortable.

Sorry bugs sad Onwards and upwards with stabbing though, eh? smile

KatAndKit Mon 04-Nov-13 19:41:09

That's a shame about the bfn, but as you say, silver lining, hopefully ivf will be first time lucky. You are right about superdrug tests. They are my early testing stick of choice. Its cos the dye is darker.

my tip to any drug stabbers is do not rub the site afterwards no matter how much it stings! Rubbing makes bruising worse. I have not tried ice, i may give it a go.

TheBuggerlugsThatActuallyPosts Mon 04-Nov-13 19:53:11

Hopefully Kat.

Thanks for the stabbing tips Frank, Fizz & Kat. Id never think to.not rub, that would first reaction probably!

At leas when I move house in a few weeks I'll be be able to lug boxes I suppose.

eurochick Mon 04-Nov-13 23:02:25

fizz I was the same as draf - I just used them straight out of the fridge and didn't bother icing. Cetrotide was stingy but mostly it was fine. I don't really bruise - so that wasn't a problem for me however much I rubbed or pressed on the site. I set a phone reminder, which was really useful. The idea of sticking a needle through your skin is odd but in my experience once you are past that barrier, the physical injecting really isn't that bad.

Sorry about the BFN, bugs but it really is veh early still.

TheBuggerlugsThatActuallyPosts Tue 05-Nov-13 03:19:51

Oh Fuck - woke with a start realising GP still isn't home ( he was meant to finish work at 4pm) and now feel really sick. sad

I have peppermint tea and hopefully will wake tomorrow feeling totally normal again.

What do you mean Bugs? Is GP late coming home?

TheBuggerlugsThatActuallyPosts Tue 05-Nov-13 09:00:47

Very. A whole 12 hours but I expected him to be late, just not that late. He got in bed at 4 and back out at 6 ready to do it all again. He's working on a murder that happened over the weekend.

I'm working from home today as I feel shattered.

Ah right, I thought you meant he was unexpectedly late and you hadn't heard from him.

How you feeling otherwise today?

TheBuggerlugsThatActuallyPosts Tue 05-Nov-13 09:15:38

Just tired and a bit blurgh but I'm ok. Glad of being able to work at home. Just want Thursday to hurry up now.

MyNameIsWinkly Tue 05-Nov-13 09:29:07

Gosh bugs, poor GP that's brutal. I thought it was bad enough for HWCA with the fireworks and related gangs shite but that takes the biscuit. Not good for you either. Working from home sounds like the way forward. <urges time to hurry up>

eurochick Tue 05-Nov-13 10:18:43

Blimey, that is brutal, bugs! Poor GP.

I hope I will get to see fireworks tonight. I love Bonfire Night and am sad to have missed the big displays at the weekend.

TheBuggerlugsThatActuallyPosts Tue 05-Nov-13 10:52:29

I don't see how its even safe for him to drive. He observed the PM of the murder victim yesterday too. It was his first one and he is normally a bit squemish.

Hopefully he'll finish on time tonight so we can enjoy an evening together and he can have a proper meal and relax a bit. I've not even seen him since Sat night!

eurochick Tue 05-Nov-13 13:28:07

This is making me very grateful for my desk job!

TheBuggerlugsThatActuallyPosts Tue 05-Nov-13 14:13:19

And me Euro. The most distressing things I deal with are mouldy cups left lying around by lazy fuckers!

I am falling off my healthy eating wagon in rebellion of not being diffed / having to spend £4k on IVF. Someone sew my gob shut please!

Everyone deserves a bit of a binge every now and then Bugs, you've a lot to deal with. For example I definitely did not in any way shape or form eat an entire 150g bag of Milkybar Giant Buttons, clocking in at about 500cal, on Sunday night. Oh no, not me <whistles>

TheBuggerlugsThatActuallyPosts Tue 05-Nov-13 14:24:45

I've been really bad over the last 2 weeks though. I've had loads of crisps and chocolate and a bit of a dairy binge. I was going to get back on it today but then a bag of crisps fell into my mouth grin

Tomorrow, I'll start tomorrow. Scouts honour.

FizzyFeet Tue 05-Nov-13 18:27:09

I know what you mean about falling off the wagon, bugs. I resisted sticky toffee pudding today at lunch, only to be ambushed by a brownie at 3pm!

Scan update: down regging seems to have worked (hurrah) and I have 7 follies on the left and 3 on the right (double hurrah). It's still a bit of a low number but given that there were only 2 on my first scan, I'm chuffed! Stabbing commences tomorrow night. I laughed out loud during the demonstration - they have a little rubbery fake stomach for you to stab into! How random to live in a world where there are fake stomachs. I can't imagine that injecting myself is going to be anything like the fake stomach but hey ho.

We seem a bit thin on the ground at the moment, BESH. Where are some of our AWOL members? BESHer, cherry, bear, moll? Haz we scared them off?

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Tue 05-Nov-13 18:30:29

Good luck w achual stabbing fizz! I got to practice on my own belly, which seems more helpful!

Calling of the wagon is absolutely fine, now and again! No feeling guilty, both of you!

Also good luck for scannage tomorrow, winks! if I remembered that ok

lovesLemonDrizzleCake Tue 05-Nov-13 18:30:53

Calling is falling obviously...

Well done on the follies Fizz and don't stress about the stabbing - just make sure you pinch a decent amount of flesh to stab into!

MyNameIsWinkly Tue 05-Nov-13 19:01:48

Good work on the follies fizz, I'm pleased it's worked (after a slightly bumpy start!)

driz yes, tomorrow evening. I am tense, to put it mildly

bugs I had battered sausage and chips for dinner tonight, pizza yesterday, and Chinese on Sunday. So I don't think you have anything to worry about in comparison! Back on the wagon tomorrow. ..

TheBuggerlugsThatActuallyPosts Tue 05-Nov-13 19:38:06

Winks that sounds like an epic feast. Admittedly I could get through that lot for breakfast. I think the appt on Thursday will drag me back on the wagon - eyes on the prize and all that.

Good luck for tomorrow.

evilgiraffe Tue 05-Nov-13 21:02:50

Everything crossed for tomorrow, winks. We will all be handholding in spirit smile

Good luck, stabbers! You'll be fine smile

KatAndKit Tue 05-Nov-13 21:39:36

Everything crossed here for you winks hope everything is perfect tomorrow.

i have my scan date at last, next week on Monday.

eurochick Tue 05-Nov-13 21:50:05

Hurrah fizz. Good luck for 1st stabbage.

I'll have everything crossed for good scan, hags.

FizzyFeet Tue 05-Nov-13 23:37:55

Fanx all. Good luck with scans, winks and kat!

MyNameIsWinkly Wed 06-Nov-13 19:42:13

Thanks all for the support. Scan went great and saw a heartbeat smile

How's everyone else today?

FizzyFeet Wed 06-Nov-13 20:11:21

Hooray! That's wonderful, winks <wipes tear from eye> You must be delighted grin

First stab done today. You were dead right - it was fine! I managed not to cock it up <relieved>. Next to figure out how to cart my refridgerated pen with me to various social events, and how to disguise sounds of sniffing and shooting up in the loos!

MyNameIsWinkly Wed 06-Nov-13 20:19:52

In certain circles that's encouraged fizz smile Well done on a successful first stab.

evilgiraffe Wed 06-Nov-13 20:40:06

Are you sure it needs to be refridgerated, Fizz? Mine were good at room temp for 28 days after first use, so easy to transport. Otherwise, you're probably good with an insulated container and an ice pack smile

Fabulous news, winks!

FizzyFeet Wed 06-Nov-13 20:58:07

Good point, draf. Mine are ok out of the fridge after first use, but I'm on a whopping great dose, so the pens only last a couple of stabs. I'm sure I'll work it out.

I may just have bought myself a dress in celebration. I spent months and months at the start of ttc not buying new clothes, cos obviously I'd be buying maternity wear, innit. Given the total fail and my expanding arse I have now been indulging myself. Hurrah for shopping!

KatAndKit Wed 06-Nov-13 21:06:38

Hurrah for good scan winks there is nothing like seeing that little heartbeat! You must be so relieved, bet you will sleep easier tonight!

TheBuggerlugsThatActuallyPosts Wed 06-Nov-13 22:02:59

Evening hags. Great news winks, hopefully you can enjoy it now.

Its my IVF appointment tomorrow afternoon and droid is lurking which means that I'm still producing perfect 28 day cycles since clomid!

So, that means I'll be stabbing on Xmas day and possibly, hopefully, only have one more droid after this one for 9 months. Bring it on grin

Good luck for today's appointment Bugs and hurrah for regular cycles!

Fizz I can't help on the refrigeration issue as my daily stabs were all disposable needles that I had to draw up myself, so only the vial had to stay in the fridge.

eurochick Thu 07-Nov-13 12:01:20

Winks that's brilliant news. grin

fizz I used one of the mini cool bags with an ice pack when I had to transport drucks.

BTW, I did exactly the same re: not buying anything for ages because I thought I would have an expanding bump soon! I've given up now though and started shopping again!

Bugs nice cycles! It sounds like we will be almost cycle buddies. I'll probably be stabbing in early December.

TheBuggerlugsThatActuallyPosts Thu 07-Nov-13 12:03:14

I'm feeling quite anxious and just want 1.30 to hurry up now.

evilgiraffe Thu 07-Nov-13 12:14:06

Not long now, bugs. It'll be fine smile

TheBuggerlugsThatActuallyPosts Thu 07-Nov-13 13:27:11

Nervous poo had <chatty> now all I need is gp to arrive in the next 3 minutes!!

MyNameIsWinkly Thu 07-Nov-13 13:28:26

Love a good nervous poo. Good luck bugs.
<Urges GP to hurry up>

TheBuggerlugsThatActuallyPosts Thu 07-Nov-13 17:31:02

Its official - I start stabbing on cd21 of my next cycle (xmas day!)

The consultant didn't make any reference to the embryo screening on the forms so the nurse doesn't think we need it which will be good (and save us £2500) but I'm seeing him next week to ask about the scratch, embryoscope, embryo glue & screening.

evilgiraffe Thu 07-Nov-13 17:35:23

Excellent news! It will be a weird Christmas present though! Maybe GP can put a ribbon on the drucks? grin

Hurrah for official-ness Bugs grin

TheBuggerlugsThatActuallyPosts Thu 07-Nov-13 18:14:28

Sorry for short post, I was waiting for some g/f fish & chips to cook at a local place that does them. They weren't actually that nice. I decided that after filling out forms asking gp if he'll still let me use his sperm / embryos if he's killed or mentally incapacitated I deserve them and that half bar of dairy milk I scoffed on the way home from the hospital.

I've decided that they can do research on my eggs, but not any embryos. I've also discovered that they only freeze grade 1 embies. This worries me slightly....although if we have more than 1 grade 2's or lower we can have 2 put back in. What will be will be I suppose.

Its awfully quiet in here at the moment.

FizzyFeet Thu 07-Nov-13 18:26:03

Great news, bugs - you're officially on board the ivf train! It feels so good once something is actually happening, doesn't it?

The ethical forms are a big thing to get your head round. I've agreed to all testing, but not to anything happening off I'm dead / mentally incapacitated. I can't really rationalise where I've drawn the line, it's just a gut feeling.

Let us know what you decide re scratch, glue etc. I've gone for the glue, but the scratch hasn't been suggested for us and sounds painful!

TheBuggerlugsThatActuallyPosts Thu 07-Nov-13 18:48:25

Where are you on your cycle Fizz?

I do feel better than I did. I'll probably feel anxious again the closer to Xmas day it gets but I know once the stabbing starts I'll feel better.

Prambo told me to treat it like one great big science experiment with me as the subject and thats what I keep telling myself.

JethroTull Thu 07-Nov-13 19:02:26

I started stabbing on Xmas day Bugs.... and we know how that turned out grin. Auspicious?

TheBuggerlugsThatActuallyPosts Thu 07-Nov-13 19:13:09

And the name of your son was my Grandads name and my choice of middle name if we win a blue one.

FizzyFeet Thu 07-Nov-13 19:32:36

Second day of stims, bugs. Just done my second injection - was a good bit more ouchy than yesterday. And I've been feeling very anxious and down today. I thought all this was meant to happen during downregging, not now! Would e typical of my body to do things backwards confused

JethroTull Thu 07-Nov-13 20:13:42

Ah Bugs - his name is my dad's name & his middle name is SSG's grandad's!

TheBuggerlugsThatActuallyPosts Thu 07-Nov-13 20:54:49

I love it but GP prefers it as a middle name.

Fizz have a slap with the trout of tranquility. Hope you're just having a blue day and tomorrow is better.

eurochick Thu 07-Nov-13 22:26:34

bugs I did the same - they can test the eggs but I can't see the embies as "just cells" (although I know they are really) so I said no to testing on those.

fizz the whole thing is a headfuck. The odd anxious day is to be expected.

TheBuggerlugsThatActuallyPosts Fri 08-Nov-13 06:36:50

If it works and in a few years our family is complete I'm going to donate some eggs (if they're good quality and I'm young enough etc)

Id even donate embryos possibly but right now my embies are my only source of hope so they're not messing with them.

Thank god its Friday. GP is in zombie mode he's so tired.

FriendofDorothy Fri 08-Nov-13 22:37:44

<shock> this thread just fell of my active list.

I might miss any news. Anything happened?

TheBuggerlugsThatActuallyPosts Sat 09-Nov-13 08:18:44

Not really dor. There are only a few non differ besh at the moment and we're either dealing with very ill relatives, abroad, in the pit, stabbing or waiting to start.

SinkyMalinks Sat 09-Nov-13 08:43:52

<deposits pile of half bars of dairy milk, ivf friendly gin and throws nubile young men into pit>

Sorry times are hard hags.

FriendofDorothy Sat 09-Nov-13 09:12:26

Bugger. Have you started stabbing yet bugs?

TheBuggerlugsThatActuallyPosts Sat 09-Nov-13 12:35:51

Xmas day dor!!

TheBuggerlugsThatActuallyPosts Sat 09-Nov-13 15:34:03

Someone please save my soul. We have bought a new laptop and it has the new windows app thing and its SOOOOO confusing. I am close to smashing the screen already. angry

MyNameIsWinkly Sat 09-Nov-13 16:03:45

Balls. I want a new laptop but I don't want that.

eurochick Sat 09-Nov-13 16:55:01

KFZK destroyed his laptop a couple of weeks ago by knocking a glass of Ribena all over it. The new one has Windows 8. He is not a big fan.

Dor as Bugs said, there are not many of us left and those that are seem to be a bit distracted at the moment. I'm waiting to start IVF#4 and am not supposed to be trying this month as I am having an endometrial scratch before the next cycle.

TheBuggerlugsThatActuallyPosts Sat 09-Nov-13 18:13:54

euro I'm seeing the consultant on Wed to discuss the scratch. I doubt he'll agree to it as they seem to have a policy of trying it if IVF fails where as I think surely they should try everything for the first cycle to avoid further ones.

TheBuggerlugsThatActuallyPosts Sat 09-Nov-13 22:31:59

Grr I have an upset tummy. GP just had to drive veh fast from the restaurant so I could get.home ok <chatty>

FizzyFeet Sun 10-Nov-13 09:25:12

Poor bugs that's rotten. I have been in similar situation - with ex-boyf's parents driving and me with the window open trying to not to emit toxic fart smells! Hope you are feeling better this morning.

This weekend I haz been mostly ticking off domestic things you never get round to. Might go for a walk and to a gallery later. Wish every day could be a Sunday. What's everyone else up to?

eurochick Sun 10-Nov-13 09:41:23

We bought a new (grown up) car yesterday. I will be very sorry to see the toy car go, but more boot space will be welcome.

We're off shooting today. smile Brrrrr. I will be looking out my thermals shortly.

TheBuggerlugsThatActuallyPosts Sun 10-Nov-13 13:15:59

I'm about to watch The Cruel Cut....I.may end up in tears.

MyNameIsWinkly Sun 10-Nov-13 13:56:50

I don't think I'm emotionally stable enough for that bugs. How's your tummy? I think there's a bug doing the rounds, I've taken today off work as I was up all night with a bad belly, and still have it. Though your tummy goes off on one with stress too, doesn't it? Sympathy.

Enjoy taking toy car out for its last (chilly) shooting trip euro

TheBuggerlugsThatActuallyPosts Sun 10-Nov-13 14:21:44

Its not feeling brilliant but the imodium has done the trick. I was actually a bit tiddled last night after 2.5 very large glasses of red so its not stress related at all. I'm going to see family now so I hope I make the 30 minute journey without needing to find a bush grin

MyNameIsWinkly Sun 10-Nov-13 14:26:23

Eek good luck! Maybe pack some loo roll in your bag grin

eurochick Sun 10-Nov-13 19:58:32

I had a dodgy belly last week too - not too severe but not nice. I was blaming the salad bar but maybe I picked up the bug.

Shooting was a blast today (pun intended). New gun, shot well, blue skies. smile