Anyone about to start/just started TTC number 2?

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mrsm22 Tue 03-Sep-13 20:35:38

Hi ladies, I am 31 and have one DS already. After my DS I went back on the pill but have decided to stop the pill and start TTC baby number 2 and wondered if anyone was also just about to start trying or just started and we could follow each other and share as we go along. I literally have stopped my pill last week for the 7 day break, and am meant to start taking it again tomorrow but obviously won't be, so I am very literally just starting to try for number two but am very excited! That's why I thought it might be nice to go through it with other people who are also trying. I have heard some people say that after your first baby you are more fertile but I am not sure so I am really not sure how long it will take this time. Does it usually not take as long second time round? It has taken a lot for me to decide for definite that I'd like another as I had an awful time in labour with forceps and 3rd degree tears etc which really scared me and must admit I'm terrified of another scary birth experience.

Pencilsandprams Tue 03-Sep-13 21:42:09

Hi Mrsm22, I'll join as I'm currently TTC number 2 too. My DD is about 2 weeks off from her 1st birthday. We had originally wanted to have the next one as close as possible, hoping for an age gap of 15 months+. But no joy as yet! However this month I have employed an arsenal of pills and trickery so am keeping everything crossed.

Good luck to you and don't worry, your next birth will be a whole different kettle of fish I'm sure. Positive thoughts!

I'm just waiting on the old temp rise now to reassure me I am actually ovulating (I hadn't been charting my BBT until this cycle) and then it's the dreaded 2ww. x

mrsm22 Tue 03-Sep-13 22:23:01

Hi Pencilsandprams, really pleased you have joined the thread (hopefully more will come along too). My DS will be 2 at the end of December. I also wanted to have two quite close but for a long time have felt quite traumatised by the birth I had (forceps, 3rd degree tears, and stitches from episiotomy came undone and left to heal etc etc) but I have finally decided that it is worth it as I adore my DS and think two is nice and my DS would love a sibling. Your DS is still very young so yours could still be very close in age. I'm hoping (it would be lovely) to be pregnant by Xmas and then there would be an under 3 year gap for mine. Anyway let's keep each other posted with how it's going. I will have to wait and see how long it takes for a natural period after coming off the pill. It took me 7 months to get pregnant first time and I had been on the pill a long time. This time I've been back on it for a year. How long have u been trying if u don't mind me asking and what pills are u taking? I have started taking the Pregnacare pills every morning. Good luck to you as we'll and thanks again for joining! Are u hoping this time for a DS? x

AFishWithoutABicycle Tue 03-Sep-13 22:28:54

Can I join? Dd is 2.5. I have just started trying. I'm trying to do it within 3 months so he/she will be a summer baby and I won't have to fork out for an extra years child care.

CivicBlue1 Tue 03-Sep-13 22:37:00

Can I join? We are ttc #2. I'm in a slightly different position, my wonderful dd will be 17.5 years at least before #2 arrives! DH and I are both 33 and this will be his 1st biological child.

Metalhead Wed 04-Sep-13 07:31:23

Another one here! We have DD who is 3.2, and are on cycle 2 of ttc #2. Similar to you OP I couldn't really contemplate ever giving birth again for a long time, that plus postnatal depression and generally struggling to adjust to motherhood meant I only came round to the idea of a second when DD was nearly 3.

Have to say though, I'm already getting fed up with the whole ttc business as my cycles are quite irregular which means lots of guessing as to when I'll ovulate... I might have to try OPKs next month!

greeneone12 Wed 04-Sep-13 09:22:05

We are - I am 31 and DP 31 too. DD will be 3 in October. Was due 2nd in Feb but that wasn't to be so we are back on it again. Just had first period back so it go go go.

Kt1991 Wed 04-Sep-13 10:03:14

We are! Started trying mid July, had first period 2/3 weeks ago so just waiting to see what happens now! DS is 2.7, would really like a Summer baby this time though! Conceived DS after 3 months so I’m hoping will be similar time scale 2nd time round! Good luck everyone.

greeneone12 Wed 04-Sep-13 12:07:32

Kt1991 - were you hoping you would fall before AF arrived? It happened to my cousin and friend so when it didn't for us I took it quite badly. That was at the weekend and I am more positive now!

greeneone12 Wed 04-Sep-13 12:53:33

Sorry - I got confused which thread I was on! Ignore me blush

fifi669 Wed 04-Sep-13 13:28:20

Hiya, been trying for dc#2 since April, DS will be 3 in December.....

I'm 30, DP is 28 and it feels like the whole thing is taking forever! It took 6 months for DS so hopefully our time is soon

AFishWithoutABicycle Wed 04-Sep-13 13:39:41

There's quite a few of us... How exciting.

Pencilsandprams Wed 04-Sep-13 14:56:04

Welcome AFishWithoutABicycyle, CivicBlue1, Metalhead, Greenone12, Kt1991 and fifi669! Great to have a few of us here!

MrsM I was really similar to you in that I'd been on the pill for years and years before DD (since age 11, to regulate heavy periods) and then it took 7 months to get PG, having assumed it would happen instantly after so many years desperately trying to NOT get pg! I stopped breastfeeding DD in April and my first period arrived late May, so we've been trying since then - on our 4th cycle now. (I went onto Progesterone only pill for a couple of months whilst breastfeeding)

I know it sounds cliche but I really don't mind either way whether we have a girl or boy next. I would love for my DD to have a sister, but then I'd also love for my husband to have a son. So it's really win, win! Do you have a preference? My husband insists two girls will cost us a fortune in weddings though....which is probably true! I really wanted a Spring baby so if we got pg this month it would be a May baby which is the borderline really! I had originally thought I didn't want a Summer baby (due to all the stuff about summer babies finding school much tougher), but I think I'm over that now as I think getting pg ASAP is taking priority!

This month I'm using Soy Isoflavones and Conceive Plus (as we got our BFP the first month we tried those last time around, maybe a coincidence but who knows!) and also taking Agnus Castus and Vitamin B6 as I think my luteal phase is too short (it's been only 9 or 10 days long each cycle, since we started TTC this time), and Agnus Castus and Soy Isoflavones are both supposed to help lengthen it. I have done a LOT of forum stalking to work out what to try. I am rattling! Oh and of course I am a POAS-aholic with the old OPKs. Poor husband is exhausted!

Good luck everyone! x

fifi669 Wed 04-Sep-13 15:55:46

DP and I would both like a girl, so would DS! Law of sod says we'll prob have boy triplets now!

Charotte31 Wed 04-Sep-13 18:47:50

Hi all, can I join in please?? I'm 31 DH is 40 my DD is 2.2. This is my 3rd month of ttc. AF due on the 14th. Good luck everyone and fingers crossed!!

panicmechanic Wed 04-Sep-13 19:19:05

Hi ladies I am 42 (ouch) and have a DD who is 2.5. I had a son who was stillborn before DD and it took 3 months to conceive DD. Been ttc for a year with a MC also in Feb this year. I am only going to ttc for another couple of months as age I feel could me against me good luck all ! X

Metalhead Wed 04-Sep-13 20:09:41

So sorry to hear about your losses panicmechanic - hope you strike lucky soon and everything goes well this time round!

Windywinston Wed 04-Sep-13 21:18:17

Can I join? We just starting ttc#2 this month but I'm expecting a long slog to BFP.
DD is 14 months and I'm a bit scared to ttc again, but don't want a big age gap.
It took 2yrs to conceive DD and lots of stress. Labour was also terrible (went on for days, back to back, baby in distress, ventouse, episiotomy, split stitches etc).

panicmechanic Wed 04-Sep-13 23:06:59

Thanks Metalhead. Good luck to all x. Sounds very stressful Windywintson good luck this time round xx

Windywinston Wed 04-Sep-13 23:23:50

Thanks panicmechanic. Sorry I didn't see your post before I posted. I'm so sorry for your losses. I hope everything goes to plan for you this time around.

greeneone12 Thu 05-Sep-13 08:08:42

Oh ladies so sorry you have been through such awful experiences. Thank goodness there is support in these forums to ease the stress/anxiety of trying to conceive again smile

Next week will be our fertile week but I have a horrible cold and think DP is getting it too hmm

DuPainDuVinDuFromage Thu 05-Sep-13 09:19:24

Hi, can I join? Have just started ttc#2 - came off the pill early August. DD is almost 11 months and I am just starting to look at tiny babies and think "how cute" again, although DD is still my tiny baby and it's weird to think that one day she might be the big girl in the family!

Sorry to hear about all the difficult times people have been through. Hope everything goes well for us all now!

Pencilsandprams Thu 05-Sep-13 11:35:06

Welcome Charlotte31, panicmechanic, windywinston and*DuPainDuVinDuFromage*! So sorry for some of your losses, greeneone is right, thank goodness for these forums. DuPain, it sounds like you're aiming for a similar age gap to me. Fingers crossed for BFPs all round.

WHat stage is everyone at on their cycles? I'm on CD22 now and just waiting on FF to make up its mind on my O date. Going off my temps I think it's going to say it was on CD20, but I think it was more like CD18 because of my CM signs and OPK tests. I really hope FF is wrong as my cycles are normally 28 or 29 days long, so it would give me a luteal phase of just 8-9 days. Hoping my pill popping has worked its magic in lengthening it all out.....we'll see! Does anyone else use FF? I think my efforts not to get too obsessed with charting this time round have well and truly gone down the pan!

mrsm22 Thu 05-Sep-13 15:05:47

Hello and welcome to all, it's amazing to see so many have joined! Apologies for only coming back on today, me and DH were at the seaside yesterday with my DS. I work part time now since having my DS, so been back working 3 days a week since June.

Welcome to Afishwithoutabicycle, Civicblue1, Metalhead, greenone12, Kt1991, fifi669, Charlotte31, Panicmechanic, DuPainDuVinDuFromage and Windywinston! So sorry to hear some of your very sad losses too and I think Mumsnet is such a wonderful site for mums and mums to be to offer support and share experiences. I am 31 and really want to conceive by/before xmas. My gorgeous DS will be 2 on 28th December so I would love to give birth to a second baby before he is 3. Like Pencilsandprams, I was on the pill from age of 16 and when I came off to TTC my DS it took me just 7 months also. I have only been back on the pill about a year (give or take) so I am hoping t won't take as long but I am not sure second time round how long it usually takes or if it is totally different for each person. Is it true, does anyone know that second time round you are meant to be be more fertile? I have very literally just started trying since yesterday when i would have normally taken my pill after the 7 day break but didn't take it. Hoping it happens really quick as i love being pregnant, just terrified of another nasty birth experince but i keep hearing that the secind time is usually better (so fingers crossed)! Like everyone else probably has, I have been reading ontips to help you fal pregnant but I'm not sure that there are many things you can do, other than the obvious. I'm just hoping it doesn't take long to have a natural period now that I am off the pill, I am assuming that is what I am waiting for or to happen next now that I am off the pill?

I would love another baby boy to be honest, but obviously healthy is the most important thing! Good luck to all. x

mrsm22 Thu 05-Sep-13 15:08:54

Metalhead - sorry to hear you suffered with postnatal depression, I think you'd be very unlucky to have that again secind time round. Did you also have an unpleasant birth experience?

DuPainDuVinDuFromage Thu 05-Sep-13 15:21:32

mrsm22 I will also be 31 by the end of this month!

I think the second birth is usually much easier and quicker (if you have already had a VB that is) so hopefully you should be fine - obviously we have no idea how it will actually happen until you get to the delivery room! I had an emcs after being induced and not progressing. It took four days from going into hospital to having DD, but most of that was sitting around waiting for things to start happening! So I haven't really got a clue about natural birth...

And in answer to your other question, yes you are waiting for your first proper period post-pill...or a bfp!

TheTruffleHunter Thu 05-Sep-13 15:54:43

Hello everyone, we're just thinking about whether to start ttc again soon, our DD is only 5 months old but we'd love an age gap of around 15-18 months.

Metalhead Thu 05-Sep-13 16:21:06

mrsm22 I was quite traumatised by DD's birth, even though on paper it was a pretty straightforward, textbook delivery. I had her at a birthing centre, without any drugs, but tore quite badly despite doing all the right things (on all fours, controlled pushing etc) and then had to be transferred to hospital for stitching under spinal block. I felt really angry because I felt I'd been made to be believe it was going to be this "magical experience", and in reality it was just the worst experience of my life...

Pencils I don't really know where I am in my cycle as mine are really irregular (anything from 29-42 days over the past year, though the average has been about 35). I thought I should have ovulated beginning of this week, but now I'm not so sure... I've been feeling a bit queasy the last couple of days and am wondering if maybe I ovulated last week and could be pregnant, though I'm trying not to get my hopes up as I was convinced I was last month until AF turned up. If I haven't caught this month then I will definitely try some OPKs next month as the constant calculating and symptom spotting to pinpoint ovulation is driving me crazy!

fifi669 Thu 05-Sep-13 18:17:21

I'm only just finishing with AF so have a couple of weeks of dtd for fun..... Then it gets serious, OPKs and legs in the air!

mrsm22 Thu 05-Sep-13 19:50:07

DuPainDuVinDuFromage - I did have a VB, a very scary one. It all went wrong for me when I got to the hospital. I had got to 5cm at hold on my own and was doing really well but stupidly demanded an epidural when I got to hospital (only because people had terrified me with his painful it gets etc) but it really slowed down my birth and I was in labour for I think it was 28 ish hours and ended up with forceps and episiotomy. Next time round I'd like to have a home birth and try with no pain relief apart from a bit of gas and air. What does everyone think to home births or has anyone had one?

mrsm22 Thu 05-Sep-13 19:51:55

Sorry ladies, what is an OPK?

mrsm22 Thu 05-Sep-13 19:54:01

Metalhead - I also was expecting a beautiful magical experience in childbirth but it was far from it. I'm just so grateful that my DH was born healthy and nothing wrong with him.

mrsm22 Thu 05-Sep-13 20:00:03

Panicmechanic - I don't think you're too old at all. My grandma was 42 when she had my dad and there were no problems at all. I think women are having babies older. In fact I'm only 31 (32 actually later this month) but only one other of my friends has children, everyone else I know wants children but not yet started and many of my friends all same age say they are still not ready.

mrsm22 Thu 05-Sep-13 20:12:46

Windywinston - sorry so many responses now that I didn't get realise I hadn't responded to yours. Your experience of childbirth sounds very frightening so I'm not surprised you're scared of TTC again. I never thought it would be such a frightening thing to give birth but it really is. I envy those people who you hear about who have these really quick 2 hour labours, no rips or tears etc. I wish that could have been me and perhaps I too would have started TTC sooner. My DS will be 2 this Dec so hopefully if it doesn't take too long I will have a nice gap. Will be worrying about childbirth again but surely next time will be better for us?! Have you literally just started TTC like me?

MrsRandom78 Thu 05-Sep-13 20:17:33

Can I join too? OPK says tonight/tomorrow are the times for DH to get lucky! (And hopefully we'll have a bit of luck too!)

mrsm22 Thu 05-Sep-13 20:31:30

Welcome MrsRandom78! How old is your first child?

AFishWithoutABicycle Thu 05-Sep-13 20:54:00

I had a c section last time. Is anyone trying to have a vbac?

CourgetteSmuggler Thu 05-Sep-13 21:12:31

Can I join please?

I'm 23 and DH is 30.
DD has just turned 2 and I had my coil removed in march, went onto cerazette until May and we have just stopped using condoms this month.

Ever since coming of the merina, my cycles have been messed up, ranging from 26-36 for the past few months.

Pre-DD I was 28 days to the dot.

This is out first official month of TTC and I'm on CD31. I'm g

CourgetteSmuggler Thu 05-Sep-13 21:12:47

Stupid phone!

I'm g

CourgetteSmuggler Thu 05-Sep-13 21:13:34

Oh my god!

I'm going to wait until next week to test but I tested 10dpo and got a BFN so not holding out much hope.

MrsRandom78 Thu 05-Sep-13 21:17:53

Hi Mrsm22 - ds will be three in a few weeks (wah!). Would have liked a smaller age gap but circumstances didn't allow. Hoping we can get number 2 n the way before he turns four!!

greeneone12 Thu 05-Sep-13 21:52:19

I would like my 2nd before Dd turns 4 next October. I am on CD 6 so next week it's go go go! I just need to get rid of this cold sad

Just done my zumba class to try and sweat it out!!

Kt1991 Fri 06-Sep-13 07:18:10

Sorry to everyone who have had a loss or difficult time. I have no idea if I ovulate or not as have PCOS and AFs were not regular at all when on the pill. Last Wednesday and yesterday I had awful period like cramps so I've no idea if it was last week or this week if so? If my periods will now be regular I should be due on again about 15/09 so will leave it a couple,of days after that to test. We have a wedding the week after that so would like to know so I know whether to have a few drinks or not! Think I'm getting my hopes up though sad

Metalhead Fri 06-Sep-13 07:57:41

mrsm22 I have two friends who tried for a homebirth with their second but both had to go to hospital because their waters broke and then labour failed to start within the timeframe they give you.

Personally I would never give birth anywhere other than hospital again. I think I'm quite disilussioned with the whole thing, and also have seen too many things go wrong in seemingly straightforward pregnancies among friends, so I'd like to have every doctor available on hand next time! But that's just my personal opinion.

Metalhead Fri 06-Sep-13 08:01:02

And respect greenone for doing zumba with a cold! I've been trying to shake off the mother of all colds for two weeks now and feel absolutely bleurgh because I haven't been doing any running the whole time...

greeneone12 Fri 06-Sep-13 08:52:38

It's not like me at all usually but I have held back at class for months as I was pregnant so while I am not I wanted to go and give it some! Don't feel worse today....but not much better either!

DuPainDuVinDuFromage Fri 06-Sep-13 09:12:15

mrsm22 I was never interested in a home birth even before I needed induction and then a CS - I wanted as much medical assistance on hand as possible as you never know what is going to happen! Sorry you had such a hard time with your DC, I'm sure this time things will go better.

AFish I'm not sure about VBAC or not - I think it's something that I'll only decide on much closer to the time. I kind of hope the decision is taken out of my hands either by needing an ELCS for whatever reason or by going into labour before I can make a decision because it's so hard to know what to do! I'll definitely be reading everything I can get hold of about VBACs...

Charotte31 Fri 06-Sep-13 09:27:25

I'm on day 16, AF due on the 11th. Really hope it doesn't come! I'm very much 28 day cycle. Always have been. Even after having my DD and I also suffered 2 Mc's but always went back to my normal 28 day cycle so lucky in that way!

greeneone12 Fri 06-Sep-13 12:28:11

Sorry for your losses sad what approach have you been taking? Every other day? Really in danger of making this all far tok stressful. With my last two pregnancies we did it on day of ovulation and one other day as we were successful. Scared it will be harder this time.

Fingers crossed AF doesn't arrive!!

greeneone12 Fri 06-Sep-13 12:29:07

too

mrsm22 Fri 06-Sep-13 13:40:39

Welcome to Courgettesmuggler!

Metalhead and DuPainDuVinDuFromage - I totally understand what you both say about being safer at the hospital and i agree from that point of view. I just have a real phobia of hospitals and don't like them at all so I just thought that next time round I might feel more comfortable at home. But it does scare me that if anything went wrong, would you have time to get to the hospital etc. So I haven't made my mind up, but will wait and see how i feel when successfully conceived!

MrsRandom78 - I am more than sure that you'll have another baby before your DS is 4, and 3 years is nice. In fact it doesn't matter what the gap really. I always wanted an older brother, but got an older sister, 3 years older than me but it was nice when growing up to have someone to play and fight with!

AFishWithoutaBicycle - Can i ask how you found recovery after a c section? I am between home birth and c section. I was told by my GP last time i saw her about the pill, i mentioned that I would like to start TTC anohter baby and she said after the birth I had that I would be allowed a c section but when i started to read about it, i really panicked as it talks about it as major abdominal surgery. Can you give me your experience of it and would you recommend?

Metalhead Fri 06-Sep-13 14:01:50

greenone we've been trying to dtd every other day during what I think is my fertile window, though for various reasons it's been a bit hit and miss this month so I'm not holding out much hope for this cycle.

Last time I conceived the second month after coming off the pill, so am kind of thinking I can't be this lucky again and already dreading it taking ages as I like to be in control of everything!

Charotte31 Fri 06-Sep-13 14:40:52

We Dtd on day 10,12 and 14 which was my day of ovulation ( I hope) ;) your better to dtd early rather then late. Good luck!

DuPainDuVinDuFromage Fri 06-Sep-13 15:35:43

mrsm I think the most important thing is to be happy with your choice, so if you're not keen on hospitals generally it might be much better for you to plan a home birth so that you are more relaxed about the whole thing while you are pregnant. I was more relaxed knowing I would be in hospital but I know lots of people feel differently. You would obviously want to consider how you would get to hospital if complications did arise while you were in labour - if you are reasonably close to a hospital then obviously you would be able to be even more relaxed about a home birth than if you had to worry about transferring if the need arose. We are getting ahead of ourselves though aren't we! But I think it's important to think about these things in advance.

With my c section I couldn't really do much at all the first couple of weeks - even getting up from a chair or bed needed help from dh the first few days. But it got a lot better very quickly and I was pushing the pram a lot within a few weeks, and was back to normal by 6 or 7 weeks post-birth (although I still get the occasional twinge). I wouldn't be at all surprised if I end up needing another CS based on my failure to progress last time and I think it will be much harder to look after a toddler than just myself after a CS. I think it should be ok as long as there are people around to help! Having had a CS, I don't think they are anything to worry about although of course you have to be aware of the recovery time and the fact that it is a full-on surgical procedure. To be honest, I'm more scared of a difficult natural birth because (as you know, unfortunately) there can be a lot of physical and emotional problems.

Sorry for the essay!

mrsm22 Fri 06-Sep-13 19:23:23

DuPainDuVinDuFromage - thanks for explaining about your c section. You're right, we are definitely getting ahead of ourselves thinking about labour and birth choices! Let's wait and see what happens and when first and then we can probably all re-discuss. I'm not sure when to expect my first period (is that a BFP) as been told anything from 3 weeks to 5 months. I hope it's not 5 months!

mrsm22 Fri 06-Sep-13 19:25:11

I have now found out what BFP is!

fifi669 Fri 06-Sep-13 19:46:12

mrsm I had an emergency cs and had no problems at all. The first couple of days I was pretty sore but was driving within a week (naughty me) and as DS's biological father had naffed off I found I was able to do everything on my own near enough. I had a big travel system job so is ask a friend to take it out of the car etc but that was just to be on the safe side. After the labour I experienced I will 100% be asking for another cs!

mrsm22 Fri 06-Sep-13 20:24:20

Thanks fifi669 - sounds like you had a good experience znd I'm glad it went so well for you. Are you on your 5th month of TTC? You forget so much from the first time. I'm eating very healthy and like I would if pregnant. Been having natural yoghurt every day with blueberries.

greeneone12 Fri 06-Sep-13 20:42:17

Interesting its better to be early than late with DTD. Metalhead I am exactly the same. Hate not being in control. It was quick for us with first two pregnancies so feel as if we deffo can't be so lucky a third time round!

Mrsm22 5 months??? I only read up to 3. Hope you get back into a cycle in quick time.

Charotte31 Fri 06-Sep-13 21:07:02

What is BFP then??

greeneone12 Fri 06-Sep-13 22:02:45

Big Fat Positive - pregnancy test

jessieagain Fri 06-Sep-13 22:06:45

Hi everyone, we are trying for dc 2 as well.

Ds turned 2 in July and we started then, i was too scared to try before as i didnt want them too close together and i fell pregnant straight away with ds. Now it has been a couple of months, I'm getting impatient and starting to regret waiting confused.

We only started properly this cycle though as my dp has been working away, but now he's home for a while so we are trying every second day.

Haven't done any temp or ovulation kit monitoring though, I had forgotten about those until I came here and started reading what others were doing. Fingers crossed I won't have to start doing those and I fall pregnant this cycle.

I have just been guessing but I suspect I ovulated in the last week, so hopefully I'm on my 2 week wait now! Good luck everyone!

Charotte31 Sat 07-Sep-13 07:39:46

Oh thanks greeneone!
Your story sounds Jessie my DD turned 2 in July and I felt the same to scared to have a new born and a toddler! We started ttc in June and like you I'm so impatient now! Fingers crossed for us this month! When is your AF due? Mine is on the 11th.

mrsm22 Sat 07-Sep-13 19:35:56

Hi Jessie again! My DS is not 2 until end of December. It really confuses me on here when everyone can work out dates when they're ovulating and when the fertile times are etc as I have absolutely no idea! Is it usually just before or after AF that you are most fertile? I have only just stopped taking the pill and started TTC this month so have no idea when AF is due or when it will come, but hoping soon as I'd like to know the hormones were out of my system and that my body is regulating itself. Before AF appears I'm guessing that I can't/won't get pregnant. I also haven't ever tried an ovulation kit so not sure how they work.

mrsm22 Sat 07-Sep-13 19:38:37

Greenone12- thanks, think it is meant to be up to 3 months for AF to appear after stopping the pill. It's just a waiting game for me at the mo. I was quite irregular before going on the pill, I think it was every 7 or 8 weeks so when I found out I was pregnant with my DS I was already 7 weeks pregnant.

greeneone12 Sat 07-Sep-13 19:56:27

My ovulation app tells me when the best time to DTD is.

fifi669 Sat 07-Sep-13 20:50:09

Cycle days 14-19 my app says are my most fertile period. That's based on my average cycle length of 29 if that helps mrsm

farmerswifey Sat 07-Sep-13 20:50:48

Hello ladies, it's lovely to read everyone's stories.

Hubby and I started trying to conceive our second little one this morning. DD1 is 13 months, I'm halfway through my cycle and AF is due on the 21st. Not holding out much hope for this month, but it's good that we've made the decision to start trying for number 2.

I'm still breastfeeding DD, does anyone know if this affects fertility?

fifi669 Sat 07-Sep-13 22:15:37

Yes it does reduce fertility. It's supposed to be natures way of making sure you can feed the child you have before making another. Though by now you can't be feeding that much so i guess it's effects will be less?

jessieagain Sat 07-Sep-13 22:33:51

mrsm there is loads of info about working out your own personal ovulation times. My cycle is slightly longer then average and also slightly irregular so I tend to make an educated guess as I get some sharp cramping and noticible changes to cm (sorry for tmi!). For me it tends to be around day 12-17. What we did to conceive ds was that we tried every second day and I fell pregnant that first month. Fingers crossed it works for us this time too.

charlotte not long for you to wait. My af is due between the 19th - 23th roughly (annoying irregular cycles hmm)

farmerswify I'm still breastfeeding my 2 year old, but he is finishing up now, down to one feed a day (sometimes none!) It isn't supposed to make a difference to ferility if you get your periods. I hope that is right!

I'm getting really impatient waiting now. And for the first time since before ds I am getting proper broody! So I hope that's a good sign.

utopian99 Sun 08-Sep-13 09:11:06

Will go back and read up thread but may I join? D's is 8 months, I have just turned 31, and as of today dh and I decided to get started on TTC dc2!

Both very excited, hoping for a small age gap, and dh convinced he has super sperm as dc1 happened in 2 months. I'm more nervous as I know a few people who had 1 easily then struggled so would nice to be here with some others!!

SoMuchFruit Sun 08-Sep-13 11:45:40

Hi All,

We started to TTC #2 in July. So this is Cycle 2 and I am in the 2nd week of this 2WW.

DS is nearly 4 now, I wasn't sure about another baby - preg last time was traumatic and although I had a great labour/birth with little issue I now realise I suffered from PND - at the time I didn't realise. So I wasn't sure about another then suddenly I was overcome with the urge to have a 2nd (and if it happens, probably last, as I am 38)

Much as I am trying to be laid back about this I am symptom spotting like a nutjob. Scrutinising every little thing. As is OH which is funny. DS was a semi-surprise and it was all very easy. Not so sure this time.

Good luck to all, who else is in the 2WW ? Anyone want to symptom spot neurotically with me ?

jessieagain Sun 08-Sep-13 12:05:08

somuchfruit yes! I have only just started the 2ww and already and obsessing about symptoms, can't help it...... Main one at the moment it frequent need to wee! Which is probably mostly psychological blush

SoMuchFruit Sun 08-Sep-13 12:13:54

LOL jessieagain - we can be obsessive together!

I've just listed mine on the other bus thread.. I have had random nausea attacks, silly swollen and sore boobs and now sore twinges. All probably mean wind but .. the obsessiveness is transforming these into 'symptoms' ..

When are you planning to POAS ?

jessieagain Sun 08-Sep-13 12:20:50

somuchfruit nausea attacks?! That would have me convinced grin Actually that is something I had forgotten about, not looking forward to that at all.

My cycles are slightly longer than average and also slightly irregular hmm so my 2 ww is actually more like 2.5 weeks, so I have decided to make my poas day the 20th.

Windywinston Sun 08-Sep-13 23:23:58

Well here I am day 23 of 30 day cycle and blummin AF has shown up! WTH????
That's 2 cycles in a row now, previously I've been so regular. I'm very confused.
I hope everyone has had a good weekend.

utopian99 Mon 09-Sep-13 03:57:54

Just a quick poll then, if we're all trying for no 2, how old is number 1? My friend raised a point about it the other day - how do you deal with a toddler with a bump?

Anyone else slightly nervous about dealing with the practicalities of successful TTC? (Despite still definitely wanting to go for it!)

Windywinston Mon 09-Sep-13 08:11:43

I'm not too worried to be honest. DD is 14 months and not brilliant at walking, but I'm sure we'd get by. My main worry is coping with morning sickness and the tiredness, but DD is a good sleeper so I expect I would still be able to get early nights and she'll just have to get used to mummy running off to be sick!
I am worried about coping without sleep with a newborn and toddler, but I plan to keep sending DD to nursery a couple of days a week for continuity, so I might still get to nap during the day a bit.
How about everyone else?

SoMuchFruit Mon 09-Sep-13 08:21:03

jessieagain - that's very restrained of you! AF should be due on the 15th. I am usually fairly regular with only the odd blip so I plan to test on the 16th or 17th is she hasn't shown up. Until then I am trapped in symptom spotting hell I suppose.

utopian99 DS is nearly 4 now and he goes to Montessori every morning for 3hrs and next Sept he'll start school so hopefully that would make things a little easier if I had another LO. Bit chaotic first thing but overall a bit easier maybe ? Current Montessori & then Local village school that DS will attend are literally about 800m from house so not to much of a school run schlep either.

SoMuchFruit Mon 09-Sep-13 08:22:39

Grammar gone to pot.

"so not *too much of a school run schlep either "

Is this a case of baby-brain ?

(Sorry. It's getting that bad)

jessieagain Mon 09-Sep-13 08:29:11

Hi, mind if I join?

I have a ds (2yo) and have just started ttc this month. 12 long days before I can poas.

I'm not looking forward to a big bump with ds. Hopefully we can keep sending him to nursery part time as well and hopefully I can start maternity leave earlier this time too.

jessieagain Mon 09-Sep-13 08:32:35

Oops I thought I was joining another thread! I have already posted here! blush

Metalhead Mon 09-Sep-13 10:30:12

utopian my DD is just over 3, so we're hoping for a 4-year gap. I'm dreading being pregnant to be honest as I felt really sick and tired for the first trimester last time, but I guess we'll just be watching some more DVDs if it comes to it... I also work 3 days a week so I would only have DD on my own for 2 days a week.

If all goes well she'll also be starting school next year like yours SoMuchFruit so I should get some time during the day to rest when the new baby arrives (provided he or she is a good daytime napper).

farmerswifey Mon 09-Sep-13 10:33:06

utopian99 My DD has just turned 13 months, and yes I am a little apprehensive about having two under two - but I'm sure we'll muddle through. It certainly won't be boring ;)
How old is yours Utopian?

mrsSOAK Mon 09-Sep-13 21:31:54

hello,
I'd like to join please!
I'm 36, DH is 30 and DD is just 4 (last week)
We took the decision to wait and enjoy having our DD before trying for #2 now I'm worrying we waited too long!
Had coil removed 13th August, AF was 5 days late first cycle. For now we are using the unscientific method of DTD every other day during what should be my fertile time, if nothing happens by Christmas we will be taking basal temperature
Finger crossed for us all!

fifi669 Mon 09-Sep-13 21:41:40

My DS is 2 and 9 months. So looking at 3 1/2 year gap if we get lucky this month.

The only worry I have is DS is rather boisterous so I'll have to be super protective of my (as yet imaginary) bump!

mrsm22 Tue 10-Sep-13 10:43:56

Hello to all and to our new joiners- Somuchfruit, Utopian99, and Farmerswifey! Can't believe how many have joined, it's lovely to see.
Thanks Jessieagain for sharing that info about ovulation kits and days. The only problem for me is that I have only just come off the pill and am waiting for a natural period and praying it happens soon so that I know my body has regulated itself. Like others have said, I'm getting impatient and really broody. Really want to be pregnant! We are DTD every day and other day just in case because my doctor once told me that you can ovulate and get pregnant without having a period ( probably unlikely but still worth a try) but I had my last period on the pill and was on my 7 day break which would have meant that I should have taken the pill last weds. As you are still covered by the pill on your 7 day break, does this mean I have only been off the pill for 7 days (as weds last week was Shen I would normally have started taking it again)? Very frustrating and wish now that I had come off it bloody sooner!
Somuchfruit - you started TTC in July, were you on the pill? I too have a DS and would love another boy. 38 is nothing, my cousin had her 3rd one at 39 and all fine!

BetterNotBitter Tue 10-Sep-13 13:06:56

I'm abit late to the party, but if its not too late can I join in?!

CooCoolite Tue 10-Sep-13 14:37:10

But late to join too, but may I?

TTC #2 2cycle and currently 4dpo (I think). Have been lurking on this thread but now need to sign in as did a test this morning (stupid I know) and got a BFN. Far too early to test so hanging on for the rest of the 2ww before testing again.

Need to chat to like minded people to retain sanity, it's amazing how quickly you can get carried away!

Somuchfruit - I'm 33 and the almost youngest of my last NCT group, 2 of whom have already had number two and are 42 and 43 respectively! Agree that 38 is nothing!

AFishWithoutABicycle Tue 10-Sep-13 14:44:12

Mrsm22
Sorry I missed your question.
I recovered very quickly and easily from my c section. I was able to walk the next day (a bit sore) and was sent home after 2 nights with some pain killers.
I was expecting a induced labour so lots of pain and very drawn out. However what I got was very quick pain free and I had a lovely healthy baby.
However, I would have preferred not to have one because now I am higher risk for #2 and won't be able to have a water birth or anything also I want a few kids and lots of c sections isn't a good thing.

Windywinston Tue 10-Sep-13 18:07:14

Hi all.
So I thought AF randomly showed up early on CD23, just a bit brownish (sorry TMI) then light bleeding (red) CD24, but nothing since? No period symptoms. Took a test yesterday, BFN then another this afternoon (I've turned into a POAS addict) and I think there was a very very faint line (too faint to be sure). Going to try again with FMU on Thursday, but I'm convinced I can't be pregnant. It took 2 years first time round and we can't be a one shag couple now surely (there are male factor issues)? Also, I had no implantation bleeding with DD.
I'm so confused and don't want to get my hopes up as I've been prepared for it to take a while!
I'm probably just stressing over nothing.
Has anyone else experienced IB before?

farmerswifey Tue 10-Sep-13 20:03:09

Hi Windywinston, I had an implantation bleed with DD1 - It was 5 days before my period was due and was very bright orangey-pink in colour and a little watery. It didn't last long, possibly an hour tops. I think they are all different though... I shall keep my fingers crossed for you.

mrsm22 Tue 10-Sep-13 20:03:30

Sorry, I forgot to say hello to MrsSoaks, Coocoolite and
BetterNotBitter. Doesn't matter how late anyone joins our thread, all are very welcome. We are all in the same boat TTC number 2, no matter what stage we are at with it. Can i just say sorry to Windywinston that AF turned up for you. You must be really frustrated, but fingers crossed for you for next time!
MrsSOAK- I also really want to be pregnant by Xmas, fingers and toes crossed.
I am a little nervous about looking after a toddler and a new baby (although hard to give it REAL serious thought) as at the moment I can't imagine being pregnant. I made the mistake if bringing our DS into our bed for cuddles and so he doesn't sleep well in his own bed and I am always very tired so imagine that it will be even more tiring with another baby to look after but I think bing tired is part and parcel of being a mum. I work 3 days a week and am up very early every day as everyone else on the thread I'm sure is.But my DS is 20 months so by the time a new baby is hereby DS will hopefully be 2 not far off 3 and at 3 will probably be doing a few mornings at nursery or preschool so that should be easier. As someone else said earlier, I do worry about bring kicked accidentally by my DS in the tummy. I'm rhesus negative blood group too so especially important that I don't get bumped. Out of interest, is anyone else rhesus negative?

mrsm22 Tue 10-Sep-13 20:18:26

Windywinston- sorry I forgot to mention, like Farmerswifey I also had an implantation bleed with my DS. I had come off the pill TTC and didn't have AF for a few months and then had this bleed one night very similar to how Farmerswifey described her experience and I just thought like you that it was AF but after perhaps an hour it tailed off and there was nothing more by the morning. I think some people call this 'a show' and can be a sign that you are pregnant. Good luck!

NotInYourNature Tue 10-Sep-13 21:10:30

As of yesterday we are ttc number 2. My DS is 27 weeks old and im still bfing so ttc will be a tricky one as im yet to see AF

Windywinston Tue 10-Sep-13 22:34:38

I'm blood type O, no posh blood here I'm afraid. So what does being Rhesus Negative mean for you in pregnancy, do you have to have injections (sorry, can't remember the name of them).
Well if implantation bleeding is a thing then maybe I'm not out of the game just yet. I'll keep my fingers crossed but try not to get my hopes up

SoMuchFruit Wed 11-Sep-13 09:09:06

Thanks for the age reassurance everyone! My mum had me when she was 40 so I am hoping that 38 isn't getting a bit long in the tooth. I didn't realise so many people knew 'Older' mums. (I object to being called 'Older'.. I am only bloody 38)

A lot of my friends have no children yet and they vary between 35-39 and are only considering TTC in the next year or two so it's definitely a gathering trend (late childbearing)

mrsm22 - Yes, started at end of July this year but no, wasn't on the pill beforehand - we just avoided DTD 'that' week. Now I am not sure if we were just super successful at avoidance or there is something wrong hmm

Am feeling fairly sure I am out this month. AF due Sunday and something makes me think I should be expecting her. I just have a feeling. Ho hum.

Although, although, I have a cold. And I don't know whether to take cold remedies or not. I am allergic to paracetamol so only take Ibuprofen - which you should not take AT ALL in pregnancy. What to do ? I am fairly sure I am not pregnant (Have not POAS, I don't POAS until I have missed AF)

mrsm22 Wed 11-Sep-13 10:47:21

Morning All,

NotinYourNature - Welcome to the Party! You have only just started TTC like me (well you were yesterday and I was last Weds), it's all very exciting isn't it?! But gosh, you are starting very early! Do you want two close together?

Windywinston - It's not really posh blood, sadly it's not a great thing. Rhesus negative is the more rare blood type (although not really rare). I had no idea of my blood type until I got pregnant with DS and had my first ever blood test. What it basically means is that when you get pregnant you obvioulsy have no idea what your babies blood type will be until they are born. If my baby has the same blood type as me, then all is fine. However, when I am pregnant if I have any kind of bleed during my pregnancy or any kind of bump, I have to go to hospital within 72 hours (but as soon as poss) to have an anti D injection (nice big injection in the bum). This is to prevent any of the babies blood mixing with mine as it can cause rhesus disease to the unborn baby which can be fatal. It's not very nice at all. You have a standard anti D injection also at 28 weeks, and then straight after the birth so that you are 'hopefully' protected for your second birth. I had two bleeds when I was pregnant with my DS and had to go to hospital twice for anti D. It isn't nice at all. I think second time round it is also more risky as my DS has his dads blood type (the normal O positive) so at birth our bloods will definitely have mixed but hopefully I was given anti D after the birth. If you don't get the anti D injection your body produces anti bodies to fight the unborn babies blood and it can be very dangerous to the unborn baby. It says on my hospital discharge notes that anti D was given after the birth (i don't remember it at all) but surely they must have done if it says so on the notes.

SoMuchFruit - 38 is not old at all! I am 31 (will be 32 on 22nd of this month) but all of my firends who are 31-35 none are ready to have kids and some say not for another ten years! My Grandma had my dad at 41 0r 42 and all was fine. I think if you are still in your 30's that is best and you are. Sorry to hear you have a cold, I would stick to paracetamol just in case and i always think they are best. You only started TTC at end of July so that's not very long! I know we are all very impatient and want it to happen soon but that isn't long at all. I came off the pill mid august to try for my DS and was pregnant mid March. I know everyine is different. I am wondering when AF will come.

BetterNotBitter Wed 11-Sep-13 10:50:22

Thanks!

Our little girl (now 20 months) was a very happy accident, so this is the first time we've actually been actively trying. I'm finding it a lot more consuming than I'd thought I would and I've only been off the implant for a week! I initially thought that we'd just have sex every 2-3 days until I fell pregnant, but having researched, I've just ordered ovulation tests.

I think that having just come off the implant, my cycle will be all over the place so until it regulates testing might be a more (hopefully) successful route!

fifi669 Wed 11-Sep-13 13:11:37

I think better you should find that after the implant your cycles should be as regular as they were before give or take a day.

Millymolly01 Wed 11-Sep-13 13:41:21

Hi I've just caught up on thread, can I join please? We are ttc#2. Came off the pill in June. DD is six so big gap for me. It happened straight away last time so bit disappointed so far. Good luck to everyone smile

mrsm22 Wed 11-Sep-13 15:13:57

BetterNotBitter - my DS is also 20 months same as your DD. His bday is end of December! And I too have only been off the pill for one week. I don't know much about the implant but it sounds similar to the pill in that you have to wait for your body to regulate itself etc. So we will have to keep each other posted with progress, see when we each get AF after coming off those hormones!

Hi Millymolly01, welcome! Of course you can join! There are quite a few of us so you may need to read the threads and catch up but i think most of us have only recently started TTC number 2 or not been TTC for long anyway! I have just come off the pill, like you, although i had my last bleed end August/beginning of this month. You never know how long it is going to take, do you? Can i ask you Millymolly01, have you had a period since you stopped taking the pill in June? I was on the 7 day break and normally would have taken the pill (on day 8) last weds but didn't take it so i think that means i have been off the pill for a week? Unless you include the 7 day break but i don't think you do as i think you are still protected for that week. Do you have a boy or a girl?

BetterNotBitter Wed 11-Sep-13 17:53:49

mrsm22 wow were in really similar situations and I am a mrs m too!!

I almost wish I hadn't researched quite so much as now I feel like a crazy symptom watcher, and its far too early for that. I'm not quite sure what's going on at the moment, I had a tiny bleed the day after the implant came out which I'm told is to be expected, but this afternoon I've had a small bleed too! Cramping etc with this one so could be start of period or could just be implant removal bleed, no idea!

Millymolly01 Wed 11-Sep-13 20:06:02

Mrs m22- thanks, I've been catching up and it's nice to see I'm not alone! Yes I have had a period each month but they have been very light, not too sure if they are proper periods yet but I think I'm ovulating. You count the first day of your period as cd1 but I think when you first come off the pill it's a withdrawal bleed so I think you count your first pill free day as day 1 but if anyone knows different I would be corrected! I have a daughter already smile

utopian99 Wed 11-Sep-13 23:18:57

I came off the mini pill 3 days ago, ds is 8.5 months andstill bf although daytime feeds have reduced quite a bit and twice at night, wondering how long it'll be beforethe pill effect wears off - nnot long as mini pill is small dose anyway?

Nobloomingideapgornot Thu 12-Sep-13 08:05:09

Hey guys
TTC num 2 here..ds is 5 and just started school.

I'm 25 days since last period started, think I ovulated and we did the DTD about 7/8 days ago, 48 hrs ago I had a light pink discharge and cramps for about two hours and then it stopped.
My boobs feel huge and I'm bloated, had some cramps but I also get these a week before AF.
Have been feeling a bit nauseous and I have lost weight and my appetite has sunk as I just feel so full.
Have POAS three times now but nothing..bfn
Have no idea how long my cycles are as haven't really taken much notice lol. It just happens whenever!!
So not long to go before AF arrives or nothing...

I'm not the most patient but with Ds it was very obvious after 2 weeks I was pregnant and felt pretty much the same as I do now...

Good luck all!!

Metalhead Thu 12-Sep-13 08:55:26

Windywinston any further bleeds or anything? Sorry my message is a bit late as I'm on holiday at the moment, but I think your "early AF" might well have been implantation. I had it with DD and thought my AF had arrived, only to get a BFP 2 days later! (I got suspicious when the bleeding stopped after one night)

The reason why you tested negative before could be that your hormone levels aren't high enough to be picked up yet, as I understand it it can take around 5-7 days for home pregnancy tests to turn positive after implantation. Fingers crossed for you!

I've been trying not to symptom spot this month,though it's been tough as I've been feeling quite queasy and had some light cramps and backache the last couple of days... AF is probably due early next week, so we shall see. I don't really think we DTD at the right time this month though, so not holding out too much hope. Off to the hairdresser now to take my mind off things!

mrsm22 Thu 12-Sep-13 09:37:22

BetterNotBitter - We are in very similar situations. It's nice to have another MrsM on here too! I'm still waiting and wondering when I will have a period....my gp said anything from 3 weeks to 3 months so who knows? I am also really bad for googleing symptoms etc, but i did that last time and fell pregnant when i least expected it and wasn't thinking about it. For me, my periods were quite irregular, i think every 7 or 8 weeks so when i came off the pill (after about 12 years at the age of 16) i didn't have a period for months which i think is pretty normal if you have come off either the pill or implant! Then i think i had one bleed and that was it, i was pregnant but i had no idea as it had been 7 weeks since i had had the last bleed, so i was 7 weeks pregnant when i found out IYSWIM but i had no ideas as i was always 7 or 8 weeks between each period. You and I could even be pregnant now and not even know! Let us know if you have any more bleeding today as could then be start of AF but if not could be a 'show' which i had one night when i was pregnant and it is a sign that you are!

mrsm22 Thu 12-Sep-13 09:38:36

Millymolly01 - I think when you come off the pill, your periods can be a lot lighter, especially if you have been on it for a long time. I have been off the pill for a week and a day so when do you think I will get my AF?

mrsm22 Thu 12-Sep-13 09:39:51

Utopian99 - I think the pill is out of your system within just a few days. That is what I have read and my gp said it is out straight away. The mini pill is not as effective as the main pill too.

mrsm22 Thu 12-Sep-13 09:43:11

Nobloomingideapgornot - Hello and welcome! Those symptoms sound quite possible? I never had any sickness or nausea at all when i was pregnant with my DS, no morning sickness whatsoever. I was very lucky as i've heard that is not vetry nice, i just felt very tired and looked quite pale and my boobs were enormous, hey grew so quickly. In fact I remember being sat in the bath one day and my DH said i was pregnant, he could tell apparantly by my boobs (they go veiny). Good luck and let us know how you get on!

How is everyone else?

BetterNotBitter Thu 12-Sep-13 11:31:42

Morning everyone, well almost afternoon! How is everyone today?

mrsm22 no more bleeding since last night, it was just a very small amount yesterday & the day before, but I mean tiny. Cramps have gone. So no period but I'm sure I can't possibly be pregnant yet either. Think it's just hormonal weirdness as a result of implant removal!

Would just like to have a normal cycle so we know where we're working!

nobloomingidea sounds like a lot of symptoms! When is your period due? Hopefully not long & it won't co,e!

metalhead it's so hard not to symptom spot!!

Millymolly01 Thu 12-Sep-13 12:14:31

Mrsm22- if your cycle is 28 days, af should turn up on or around wed 2nd x that's interesting about pill. I'm glad I'm normal then smile

donnas1984 Thu 12-Sep-13 12:15:01

hi late to joint!
had my nexplanon removed 05/09/13 and have had terrible headaches and backache since! Im 29 and my Dh is 33 we are ttc #2. our dd will be 2 in november how time files!
it took us 1 month off of 2 years to conceive dd but i realy hope ths time will be alot quicker!
Good luck everyone xx
(new to this so sorry if any abbreviations are wrong!)

mrsm22 Thu 12-Sep-13 13:09:43

Good afternoon everyone!

I'm stuck at work, well on my lunch but i'm off tomorrow so all good.

BetterNotBitter - Feel totally the same as you, will be happy just to have a period and know things are back to normal. Hate all that waiting!

Thanks to Millymolly01 - so i'm looking at 2nd October for possible AF? I was around 7/8 weeks before so you could be right. It's DH's birthday that day too so i won't forget. Fingers crossed then!

Hi Donnas1984 - welcome to the party of TTC number 2! You'll see that there are now lots of us. Is Nexplanon an implant? I agree, time does fly by. My DS will be 2 in December, so similar age to your DD. I'm sorry it took you a long time last time. Hopefully much quicker for you this time. Are you taking your Pregnacare or folic acid?

In fact, is everyone taking supplements?

donnas1984 Thu 12-Sep-13 13:39:40

mrsm22 - Yes Nexplanon was the newer verson of the Implanon Inplant, I could go months with no bleeding then it could come along for 5-6 weeks! Total nightmare Grrr!
Ive been taking folic acid and a multi vitamin for about 4/5 weeks since we decided to get the implant removed. Seems different this time around as I have the wee one to look after I cant spend all my time geting obsessed so fingers crossed it happens sooner!
Must admit I have bought a 3 month supply of OPK's didnt work for me the last time but hey ho ill give them another try!

mrsm22 Thu 12-Sep-13 15:58:19

Hi Donnas1984, I too have a little one to look after so I know what you mean. I'm not getting stressed about it. I really want to get pregnant soon and I am an impatient person but I am happy with my DS and am trying to take a more laid back approach to it. Would be great if it happens by xmas for all of us. Thanks for explaining about the implant.

BetterNotBitter Thu 12-Sep-13 17:38:30

Wow donnas1984 I had my nexplanon removed the same day as you and had the same awful problems with massively long bleeds then none for months etc while I was on it! My little girl will be 2 in January!

I'm taking folic acid, but I have coeliacs disease so I have to take a much bigger dose than most people so its a prescription. Just started taking it last week when I had the implant removed.

donnas1984 Thu 12-Sep-13 19:11:55

Bitternotbetter how are you feeling now you're off it? I have had the worst headache for the past 3 days and have sore boobs and cramp but no bleeding as yet. My friend came off nexplanon and never got AF she is now 25weeks! Doubt ill be that lucky!
I have a family member who has coeliacs I hope your keeping well xx

donnas1984 Thu 12-Sep-13 19:14:47

I got your name wrong sorry!

BetterNotBitter Thu 12-Sep-13 20:43:29

donnas1984 I had a tiny bleed hours after it was removed, then felt fine. Yesterday & day before (days 5&6 after removal) I had awful cramps, fatigue, backache & very slight bleeding.

Still have achey back & light cramps but seem to be better today.

I just wish I could understand where my cycles at. Wasnt going to go down the ovulation testing route but think I might have to if period doesn't appear!

Kt1991 Thu 12-Sep-13 20:55:13

Hey guys not posted on here since my first post, been ill all week with cold/sore throat so there was no chance of DTD this week sad. AF due this weekend too so not feeling particularly good sad have had few cramps for on and off over a week now though so still keeping my fingers crossed! Loads of friends are announcing 1st and 2nd pregnancies this week too so hoping that could be me soon.

lucyjojo Thu 12-Sep-13 20:55:27

Hello, can I join please? I'm ttc#2, been trying since July, so not very long at all really but already its turned me into an obsessive maniac! I am very impatient, and it happened pretty much straight away with my DD so I'm hoping it won't take too long. My DD will be 2 in November, and I would like another before she turns 3, but you can't really plan these things at all can you! Has anyone who's joined this thread had any definite BFPs?

Pencilsandprams Thu 12-Sep-13 21:02:36

Hello ladies, I am currently on 9DPO and going utterly bonkers. So just wanted to offload and check in to see how everyone else is?

I can't stand this bit, just waiting, waiting, waiting and knowing you could be on the brink of AF showing up. I'm symptom spotting like crazy, going to the loo every hour just so I can check whether AF is here yet, googling every temperature fluctuation etc etc. Gahhh....wish I could just relax and go with the flow!

I know we DTD enough / at the right time in theory, but I'm still feeling a bit pessimistic.

x

SoMuchFruit Thu 12-Sep-13 21:24:29

Hi Ladies, hope everyone is well.

AF got me yesterday. I knew she was coming but she was 4 days early angry didn't see that coming. I just assumed she'd show up on Sunday as expected.

Anyway, new and radical plan for this coming cycle. DH is game (His words ; 'Let's bring the rain' grin ) so the idea is.. DTD every 2nd day from 16th (when I assume AF will be gone) until 21st then 22/23/24 every day then again 26/27 and 29/30/1

This is because my cycles are a bit more random than I thought and have varied between 27 and 34 days all this year so this will hopefully cover all the fertile days of all of the variations.. I think, according to frenzied calculations and googling.

It'll be exhausting fun so I hope it pays off.

utopian99 Fri 13-Sep-13 06:23:44

Every second day sounds like a bit winner! No idea what my cycle is or if I'm even fertile yet, having only come off the pill earlier this week but would like to avoid AF altogether if possible.
How would you know when to test though?

SoMuchFruit Fri 13-Sep-13 07:36:20

Well, that's the annoying bit utopian. I average a 29.5 day cycle so I generally work out AF's arrival on 29/30 day cycle. So if she hasn't shown up by 11/10 I will think about testing.

I would like to be a POAS addict but I fear for my sanity if I start down that route so I generally only test when AF appears to be good and late.

Metalhead Fri 13-Sep-13 11:15:07

SoMuchFruit you sound a lot like me! AF got me too today, about 4 days earlier than I expected. But my cycles have also varied in length by almost 10 days over the last year, with the average being 35. I've been taking the same approach of trying to DTD every other day and calculating when I should ovulate based on my longest, shortest and average cycles, but as this doesn't seem to have worked so far I think I will give OPKs a go this next cycle. 'Tis all very frustrating...

BetterNotBitter Fri 13-Sep-13 12:34:41

I just got a positive ovulation test! So relieved as thought it could take months as only had implant removed a week ago!!

I was sure I was last night (major signs) but test confirms it. Hurrah!

fifi669 Fri 13-Sep-13 13:09:03

Once the implant is out you're back to normal straight away, there's no delay

mrsm22 Fri 13-Sep-13 19:53:13

Hi all, how is everyone doing? Looking forward to the weekend?
Kt1991- nice to hear from you again. I hope you're starting to feel a bit better?
Lucyjojo- my DS will be 2 in December and I'm same as you, would like to be pregnant by Xmas so that I'd give birth September next year ish and before my gorgeous DS turns 3. I've always thought a 2 to 3 year gap is nice (although age gaps don't matter at all, just being blessed with two healthy children is what matters).

Somuchfruit - sorry that AF has shown her ugly head! Hope you are ok? You sound very organised with your dates. Is it better to DTD every day or every other? I've noticed most of our gang on here say every other day but I wondered if there was more chance with DTD every day? I know it's not always possible!
Pencilsandprams- lovely to hear from you again! How are you? I hate the waiting too! I'm still waiting for my first period to come and am just praying it comes soon so that I know everything is ok and hormones out of my system. I know what you mean about going bonkers. I went shopping today with my mum and my DS and I treated myself to a new winter coat and two new jumpers. The whole time we were out shopping, I kept thinking 'if I get pregnant, will I fit in the jumpers, and will the coat be big enough?!' Mental when I'm probably not even nearly pregnant!
Donnas1984- did you say you had a friend who fell pregnant without even getting AF? That definitely gives me hope!

Nocturne123 Fri 13-Sep-13 20:50:58

Hey I am also ttc no.2 , my dd is 4 months ! I may be crazy but it feels right for us ! Good luck to everyone smile

mrsm22 Fri 13-Sep-13 21:00:42

Hi Nocturne123- gosh yes you must be crazy! Only joking, if that's what is right for you then that's great. Wishing you all the best of luck!

mrsm22 Fri 13-Sep-13 21:04:30

Betternotbitter- well done and very happy for you with your positive ovulation test. Can you or anyone else explain what the ovulation kits are and what you do etc? I know what they are for obviously but I don't know what you do, is it something you wee on like a pregnancy test and does it say yes or no sort of thing or does it tell you what day and time? Sorry for sounding thick but I've never even seen one.

lucyjojo Fri 13-Sep-13 21:46:50

I am not so sure about the ovulation kits either, so some advice and info would be much appreciated! I think it's time to start using them too, AF got me today, I pretty much knew it was coming as I had all of the usual symptoms in the lead up, but its still never nice to see your suspicions confirmed! That brings me round to cycle 3 now, perhaps its meant to be this month - if I do get a bfp in October my due date will be my birthday!

mrsm22 I know what you mean about age gaps, I've been obsessing over what is the perfect age gap for about 6 months! But obviously a healthy bouncing baby is all that matters in the end really.

mrsm22 Fri 13-Sep-13 22:20:56

Lucyjojo - totally agree, and hopefully one or some of our 'gang' will give us some helpful info about these ovulation kits. I too would like to avoid if possible but mainly because I assume I'm not ovulating until I get AF and from what I've read it could be months til I get AF after stopping the pill. I absolutely hate waiting for anything.

utopian99 Sat 14-Sep-13 06:48:34

Having looked them up online the kits look like poas type things which measure a hormone that spikes with ovulation.. The ones I've seen just shows pos/neg, not day or anything though, but I've not bought or tried yet as figured no point for a month after coming off the pill..

BetterNotBitter Sat 14-Sep-13 08:01:24

Yeah, I use wee on a stick ones! There are other ways you can do it, I've seen lots about thermometers but I dont use those ways!

The ones I have detect the hormone that you have a surge of just before you ovulate & say that once you have a positive you have 24-36hrs to conceive. I'm sure there'll be different ones around.

I wasn't initially wanting to go down the ovulation testing route but my doctor suggested doing it for the first few months until I get track of my cycle/it regulates.

Hope that helps!

Kt1991 Sat 14-Sep-13 08:27:27

mrsm22 thank you feeling a lot better now. Can get back to DTD! Waiting to see if AF will get me tommorow though. Have you had any symptoms to indicate your AF might be coming at all? I was the same kind of glad I got AF last month after coming off the pill so I could work out my cycles.

mrsm22 Sat 14-Sep-13 10:54:22

Thank you Utopian99, the ovulation kits sound straight forward so that's good. Like you, in only recently off the pill (11 days) now so like you, it's probably a bit soon.
KT1991- no symptoms yet to show that AF might be on her way. I'm a bit worried now because I came off the pill in August when trying for my DS (August 2010) and I conceived beginning of march 2011, but from coming off the pill in the August it was about 5 months til I had a period. Hope it's not the same this time. I won't be going back on any hormonal contraceptive again.

mrsm22 Sat 14-Sep-13 11:02:58

KT1991- meant to say I'm glad you're feeling better. You came off the pill mid July was it? Can I ask when you first got AF after stopping the pill?

Thanks also Betternotbitter- I've not even seen an ovulation kit. Hoping I get my AF soon as otherwise getting an ovulation kit might be a bit pointless.

Windywinston Sat 14-Sep-13 12:36:43

So ladies, I've had no more bleeding, and two BFPs!!!!!
I'm still in shock, after last time I was prepared for a long wait again, so this has completely floored me, in a good way.
I think this thread must have been lucky for me.
I hope you all get your BFPs soon xxxxxxxx

farmerswifey Sat 14-Sep-13 13:26:29

Huge Congratulations Windywinston - Really pleased for you! Lets hope we're all joining you over on the anti-natal forum soon smile

Metalhead Sat 14-Sep-13 14:09:08

Many congratulations Windywinston - I thought it sounded positive from what you described!

Hopefully this will be the first of many BFPs on this thread.

mrsm22 Sat 14-Sep-13 16:00:39

Huge Congratulations Windywinston! That's amazing news and I'm very happy for you. I also hope we'll be joining you soon. Please do keep in touch with the rest of us on here, we'd hate to lose you. xxxxx

BetterNotBitter Sat 14-Sep-13 17:06:30

Yay!! Our first BFP!! Congratulations!!

mrsm22 Sat 14-Sep-13 17:31:27

BetterNotBitter - hopefully now we'll all follow suit and watch each of us join WindyWinston as we get more BFP's and we can support each other through the next phase, when we get there x I think it's lovely as well as Windywinston took so long TTC first time round. Just goes to show to can never tell how long it's going to take.

Metalhead Sat 14-Sep-13 17:44:36

Ovulation sticks ordered, so I'm ready to get serious once AF has buggered off!

Incidentally, AF seems to have become much more painful since we've started ttc - anyone else had this? I used to be ok most months, cramps of course but nothing too bad, but the last two months I've had to take paracetamol and ibuprofen for the first two days just to be able to function at all!

Kt1991 Sat 14-Sep-13 18:28:03

mrsm22 Hope its not that long a wait for you this time! Got my period exactly a month later! Was suprised to get one though, as I have PCOS so never have regular periods anyway. Hoping thats my last one for a while though! wink. Congrats Windywinston!

Kt1991 Sat 14-Sep-13 18:29:19

Metalhead Yes mine was really bad last month, really didn’t feel like going to work because of the pain! Must be because were not using any contraception.

mrsm22 Sat 14-Sep-13 19:43:48

Thanks Kt1991, that's really good that you got AF exactly a month after coming off the pill. Let's hope I'm the same, should be 2nd October if that's the case for me. I'd be really happy if she comes that soon like yours. I'd also agree with Metalhead, periods will probably be worse not on any contraception. If you think that's why a lot of people go on the pill initially, to help the pain and heavy periods. Good luck to everyone, we've had some good luck today from Windywinston so perhaps we've created a lucky thread x

utopian99 Sat 14-Sep-13 20:21:01

Congrats windy!
I'll wait a month I think then and if no AF then poas (just in case) and if no bfp then check for ovulation. Took 2 months trying first time but as we're still bf plus solids I know my chances might be lower..

utopian99 Sat 14-Sep-13 20:21:50

There's a lot of abbreviations in that last post!

donnas1984 Sun 15-Sep-13 14:04:44

TMI ALARM!!
The past 2 days I have had major ewcm like tonnes of the stuff coming out like the cervical plug before you go into labour! I dont remember this the last time we were ttc? But opks are neg.
I know ive only just came off the implant but 4 yes 4 of my bump buddies from first time round are already pregnant!
Wasn't going to obsess but looks like its already stared!

BetterNotBitter Sun 15-Sep-13 18:06:45

donnas same happened to me but I had positive ovulation test the next day.

One thing possibly re ovulation tests, it says on my tests never to take them first thing (def not first urine of the day) and generally to wait till after 10am. It also says not to go crazy with drinking fluids before you take them as the more diluted your urine is the less ovulation will show up.

You probably already know this, sorry! Just thought I'd share anyway as I'd assumed same protocol as pregnancy tests and the day I got a positive ovulation result around 11am, I'd had a negative at 7am the same day!

BetterNotBitter Sun 15-Sep-13 18:08:45

Also donnas I was alarmed re ewcm as it was more than I'd had for my plug before labour!! I know we both came off the implant so I'm wondering if that's what causes the volume?! Wierd!

donnas1984 Sun 15-Sep-13 18:33:27

betternotbitter thank you for replying ill do another test tonight and hopefully get a positive results. Think im more worked as ive had no bleeding since the implant came out and most people seem to have had something. suppose it is a waiting game in the end! fingers crossed for you and for everyone else ttc xxxsmile smile

Stacks Sun 15-Sep-13 19:40:28

Hi everyone. I'd like to join if I can, I just got my AF back after having my DS (9m now) and its got me thinking about TTC #2. It took us 18m to get pg with DS, so I'm hoping this time will be much quicker. You are meant to be more fertile for second babies, but I think only for the first year. Also, you can be more fertile right after stopping the pill, so if you want to get pg ASAP you can try dtd every other day even before you get your first AF.

Unfortunately DH isn't quite on board with TTC yet, but I figure I've got till the end of AF to convince him. He definitely wants 2 DC, it's just DS has only been sleeping for 2 weeks now, so he's worried at the potential exhaustion of two! He definately wants to dtd though, he's had hardly any for the last year ;)

Congratulations winston smile

Metalhead Sun 15-Sep-13 19:50:28

That's interesting re the ovulation tests BetterNotBitter, thanks for the tip! I haven't used them before so probably would have assumed you do them first thing like pregnancy tests, but will do them later on in the day now.

donnas1984 Sun 15-Sep-13 20:04:30

stacks welcome! me and dh were 2 years ttc dd she will be 2 in November and im broody as hell lol! fingers crossed we all get bfps soon xx

mrsm22 Mon 16-Sep-13 10:56:42

Welcome Stacks! My DS will be 2 at end of December and it will be 2 weeks on weds that I've been off the pill for just two weeks. Interesting what you say about possibly getting pregnant before first AF. Me and DH are DTD every day znd have been for the last two weeks/10 days and I feel in limbo waiting for AF. I'm worried that I'm not ovulating until I get AF but have also read that you can conceive after coming off the pill before your period comes so who knows?! I am wondering how long to leave it to do a test, should I give it 8 weeks of coming off the pill if I don't get AF to do a pregnancy test, just I'm case?
I'm sure your DH will come round to the idea too. We also would like two DC and our DS sleeps in our bed and we are always tired. I think it just comes with being parents. Good luck to you as we'll x

mrsm22 Mon 16-Sep-13 10:58:41

Donnas1984- also feeling really broody especially as it feels like winter is coming now and all the Christmas stuff starting to be in the shops etc. I was about to have my DS at Xmas (2011) so it reminds me.

SoMuchFruit Mon 16-Sep-13 11:28:54

Congratulations Windy that's so exciting!

metalhead - this non-regular cycle business would have your mind fried. I am also trying to be smart and work out the cross over days of all the various length cycles. I am trying not to be obsessive but it's creeping up on me.

Everywhere there are pregnant people and in an insult to injury way, this morning the tactless bitch lovely lady in the shop was telling me about the reasons I shouldn't wait to long to have another child and how LO must be lonely.. I wanted to shout 'I'M BLOODY TRYING' at her. Unreasonable, I know.

mrsm22 Mon 16-Sep-13 11:55:08

SoMuchFruit - it will happen when we're not all stressing/thinking about it. My DS is 21 months at the end of this month and I get really annoyed when people say things like 'do you think you'll have any more ' in that way. I get asked every time I see my nan so last week I told her in secret that we were trying. Just to stop the asking!

donnas1984 Mon 16-Sep-13 12:26:47

mrsm22 You are totally correct! I fell with my dd the same month I got my referral to the infertility clinic. I had given up all hope! im just hoping to get my cycle in order soon!

Metalhead Mon 16-Sep-13 13:56:22

I've pre-empted nosy questions by telling my parents we're not having any more! (This was back when I genuinely felt like that though).

I've had to take the day off work as I seemingly pulled a muscle in my back trying to get off the sofa this morning and couldn't move or stand up straight for about 4 hours! The pain has eased a bit now, but I still feel like I need a zimmer frame to move around... not very conducive to ttc! At least I'm still waiting for AF to pass, so we're not in prime baby-making territory at the moment.

mrsm22 when I came off the pill after many years I had a period after about a month, then fell pregnant in my second cycle. I would just wait say 5 weeks and then take a test if AF doesn't show, but don't be disappointed if its negative.

utopian99 Mon 16-Sep-13 15:05:44

Hi Dec thread buddy! <waves at stacks>

Interesting what you say about the chance of getting pgbbefore AF. Has only been a weekish since I ditched the pill but would love to skip AF altogether if possible...

Stacks Mon 16-Sep-13 16:43:37

Back when I was TTC for DS there were a few people who's dr had actually put them on the pill to aid getting pregnant! I've no idea how or why it might work, and it's not mainstream practice.. Still, you're in with a chance even if your AF hasn't shown up yet. Don't get your hopes too high though.
I think I'm going to go down the temperature tracking route. I did it with DS, and found it massively reduced my stress levels. My temp stays steady from AF to ovulation, then spikes (proving I ovulated, and can stop dtd), and stays high till the day AF shows up when it drops again. If you're pg it stays high smile

Stacks Mon 16-Sep-13 19:46:40

I ran out of nap time earlier, so had to cut my post short. Wanted to say also thank you for the welcome smile

I don't think I'll tell anyone we're TTC this time, though I think it helps that friends and family aren't really expecting it yet as DS still seems so young. It's a really personal thing to talk about and ask someone, I don't know why it's so prevalent. I always find it a bit like being asked "are you having sex often?" Which from parents/grandparents is just weird!

Metal - I hope your back is fully recovered for dtd. Sofas are dangerous things ;)

Utopian - hey <waves> I'm glad I'm not the only dec mum thinking of another smile

Windywinston Mon 16-Sep-13 21:00:29

Thanks all for your congratulations. I'm still in shock, I honestly thought it would take years like last time. It just goes to show there's no rhyme or reason to TTC, we just have to keep DTD!
I'll keep popping in if that's ok, hopefully there'll be lots more BFPs soon.
Metalhead I hope you had a good holiday.
mrsm22 those Anti D injections don't sound like fun, but at least this time you'll know what to expect I guess.
I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you all, its the least I can do when you brought me such luck.

Metalhead Tue 17-Sep-13 09:24:36

Thanks Stacks, feeling much better this morning so hopefully everything will be back in working order for my fertile window!

Windy I had a lovely holiday, thank you, only slightly marred by the arrival of AF on the last day (but at least I didn't have to feel guilty about the wine I'd drunk...)

Stacks Tue 17-Sep-13 09:40:11

DH said this morning he thinks we should start trying for dc2 this month!! Though he also said we'll stop trying around Christmas time, and start again next year if we're not successful. We definately don't want another Christmas baby (DS was born on Christmas Day), but we'll see when we get there.

I wonder if we'll be able to manage dtd eod we've only managed once since I was pg with DS. My cycles could be all over the place for a while as I'm still bf DS quite a bit.

mrsm22 Tue 17-Sep-13 11:22:49

Hi everyone,
Stacks- Wow, Xmas day baby! What was your due date with your DS? My due date was 16th Dec and my DS was born on the 28th Dec, so just missed Xmas day but before New Years. I think having a baby around Xmas is lovely although if I got pregnant by Xmas this year I think a September baby would be nice. My bday is on Sunday so a new baby would have a bday the same month. Great news that your DH has come round to the idea of TTC!

Metalhead - how's the back? Are you back at work?
Windy- we are all so happy for you and would love you to keep popping in, whenever you like to let us know how you're getting on. How are you feeling?
I agree with Stacks about telling people you are TTC, it is a personal thing and I think it adds pressure. I haven't told anyone. Well I told my nan but only because she will have forgotten already. Two weeks tomorrow for me with no AF but I think it is early days.

Metalhead Tue 17-Sep-13 12:06:26

Good news Stacks - do you think DH was persuaded by the prospect of more bedroom action...? grin

I know what you mean about not wanting a similar due date, if we conceive this month DC2 would be due pretty much bang on DD's birthday! But you can't let that stop you I think, this could be the month for us after all.

Yes I'm back at work mrsm22, much better than yesterday though my back still gets very stiff and achy when I sit down for too long or move around too much... luckily I work from home so don't have to commute and can take a short break whenever I need to!

utopian99 Tue 17-Sep-13 16:14:38

Great news stacks, good luck with DTD! Dh and I have been finding inventive ways to manage around ds' sleeping patterns anyway, but since coming off the pill I seem be thinking about it more (not in connection with ttc, just the sake of it.) Is the pill known for suppressing libido?

windy would be good to hear your updates, maybe you'll be our good luck knocked up fairy. smile

Ds was December 27th so we definitely don't want another Christmas baby. It was nice for us but I feel birthdays might be harsh on him. Will stop TTC from Jan to april if unsuccessful I think. Hmm, that sounds like a lot written down..

donnas1984 Tue 17-Sep-13 18:04:04

utopian99 I feel the same since coming off the implant, ive even been sending dh some cheeky txt msgs at work blush and I've not done that for years lol! im hoping Af doesn't show its been 12 days since I got it removed and no symptoms or anything! most ppl seem to have had spotting or something but zilch! early days I know but you can help over think things xxx

utopian99 Tue 17-Sep-13 18:20:17

Snap - I've had nothing at all blood-wise, but no idea what to expect when..

Just a quickie - has anyone changed drinking habits in advance? I only have the odd glass due to ds, but has anyone given up in advance?

donnas1984 Tue 17-Sep-13 18:29:36

Like you I dont really drink much can go weeks without a drop. having a hangover is out of the questions with a little prima donna running around shouting for peppa pig every 5 mins! Have also started eating a little healthier!

Stacks Tue 17-Sep-13 19:32:37

I don't really drink, so giving up is no chore. When trying for DS I would drink (if I wanted to) the day AF turned up (I'd also have nice dinner, chocolate and a rom com), and the few days after, then give up during the 2ww. However logically drinking during the 2ww shouldn't harm the embryo, as its not attached yet. It lives off the yolk sac for the first 6 weeks and isn't connected to your blood supply. Not that I'm telling anyone it's ok to drink, it's just not the end of the world if you do/did.

I think DH definately wants more bedroom action, he did day he wasn't sure if it was his brain or elsewhere deciding it was time to start trying grin

Stacks Tue 17-Sep-13 19:33:20

Also, yes, pill has a reputation for suppressing libidos.

mrsm22 Tue 17-Sep-13 19:43:29

Hi Metalhead - glad your back is better and you've been able to go back to work. Lucky you working from home, that must make things easier when you have a new baby around. I was on maternity leave from December 2011 to December 2012 (was meant to be a year) but ended up managing to get an extra 6 months after that, so I only went back to work in June (3 months ago) and I'm working 3 days a week. BUT it was a battle getting part time agreed. They wanted me to go back full time but there was no way I was leaving my DS full time. I still find it hard leaving him on the days I do work but he has one day with his daddy and two days with my mum and dad so it works out well.

mrsm22 Tue 17-Sep-13 19:50:08

Utopian99- my DS was born on 28th December, just a day after yours. I don't really drink so I haven't had to give anything up, I haven't actually had a drop since before I got pregnant with my DS. I am eating extra healthily though.
Donnas1984 and Stacks - I've read that your libido improves when you come off the pill and I've only been off it for two weeks but I feel completely different since stopping taking the pill. My sex drive has improved and I also feel a lot less moody and stressed. I definitely wouldn't go back on the pill.

Metalhead Tue 17-Sep-13 20:07:03

mrsm22 I too work 3 days a week, though luckily had no trouble getting it agreed. My company's very big on flexible working, but DD still goes to nursery when I work as I basically do a 'normal' office job, just not in an office, and can't look after a child whilst doing my work.

Re alcohol, I do like a drink and haven't given up what ttc, though I try to only drink at the weekends and not more than a couple of glasses of wine a night between ovulation and AF. I've also read what Stacks said though about baby not being affected by it very early on, so I'm not too worried about not giving it up completely at this stage.

mrsm22 Tue 17-Sep-13 20:21:25

Hi Metalhead - how does your DD like nursery? I'm not sure what would happen if/when I have another DC as I think it would be harder for me going into the office 3 days a week and don't know if my mum would be happy to have two for me two days a week. My mum and dad are both retired and love having my DS but I think they also find it tiring sometimes. My DH is self-employed and luckily can pick and choose his hours so that is a big help. I too have a 'normal' office type job.

Metalhead Tue 17-Sep-13 21:08:57

DD absolutely loves nursery! Mind you, we have been through some tough times when she didn't want to go and would cry every morning, but overall she's been very happy there and I think it has been good for her as she was very clingy and shy until quite recently, so it's nice to see her making friends. I also think it'll make the transition to school easier for her, especially as she'll only be 4 when she starts.

One of the reasons we waited quite long to try for number 2 was that we couldn't afford to send two to nursery though, and I couldn't be a SAHM. Childcare for two is definitely much more complicated than for one!

mrsm22 Tue 17-Sep-13 22:10:00

Thanks Metalhead, glad your DD enjoys nursery. Must admit, since I've been back at work since June I have noticed a big difference in my DS. He used to cry if I left the room to go to the loo without him but now will happily stay with his dad or my parents. Right off to bed now as back to work tomo. Good night all and good luck x

mrsm22 Thu 19-Sep-13 16:30:46

Hi everyone,

Just wondering how everyone is doing and if anyone has any updates? I've been feeling a bit bloated the last couple of days and a bit like i might be due for AF but as yet no bleeding. Fingers crossed she comes soon. Hope everyone is ok. x

Metalhead Thu 19-Sep-13 17:29:19

Hi mrs! No news here, still waiting for AF to bugger off completely, and then netx week I shall start using the opks I bought.

Until then I'm hoping I'm not coming down with another cold as I've been very sneezy today, and trying to have a relaxing weekend with the in-laws!

Hope AF makes an appearance for you soon.

utopian99 Thu 19-Sep-13 19:03:10

No AF here, two weeks since ditching pill. Getting funny aches every now and then so keep thinking it'll arrive but no. Also (sorry in advance) stringy ming.. What does that mean? I remember it means something but having ds was very much a case of ditch pill, shag, repeat, so I'm not v clued up on all this!

Stacks Thu 19-Sep-13 19:55:49

No news here either, though after a bad day with DS I was wondering how smart out decision for another cd really is..

utopian hehe, if you mean egg white cervical mucous (ewcm) is means it's time to get shagging!! It's the most reliable sign of impending ovulation, so get at it smile

donnas1984 Thu 19-Sep-13 21:23:22

hey all bive had a right pishy daysad there were even tears at work today! 2 weeks off the implant and my hormones are bouncing off the walls. also getting a spotty chin area which if I remember correctly means impending af!

donnas1984 Thu 19-Sep-13 21:28:18

also had anyone else forgot how awful you feel without your artificial hormones! im up and down like a yo yo!

BetterNotBitter Fri 20-Sep-13 09:11:04

Hi everyone!

No news here really. Ovulated a week ago so now halfway through my first 2ww which is bloody awful!! Not going to go down the road of testing based on days post ovulation, going to wait a few week to see if AF comes. Tricky as it'll be first one since coming off the implant, before that breastfeeding, pregnancy and the pill. So all in all its years & years since I've had a proper cycle I suppose. I'm going off the assumption of 28 days I think. So I'll test if no AF a good few days after it should be.

Pretty sure this won't be our month though as wasnt really to grips with ovulation testing last time and sure by the time I got my positive I was a few days in. Also, ovulation happened to fall on my husbands first work night out since before our 20 month old was born. So we lost the night he went out and the full next day....I did warn him he was out of practice but the hangover was the worst he'd ever had! Typical.

SoMuchFruit Fri 20-Sep-13 10:48:19

Nothing to report here. CD10 and have started out on plan to DTD eod since CD7. Going well so far, much fun actually. Frisky daytime texting and some new and surprising silky laaaahngerrie to come are making it very entertaining. Long may it last. I plan to DTD eod with a few bits of everyday until AF shows up which at the earliest should be 8/10.

I am a bit concerned about leakage (I posted on the Oct Bus thread for anyone who can be arsed to read my paranoid rambling) and lack of lots of EWCM. I have some but not loads IYWIM. I suppose some os better than none ?

Am already planning next cycle to include SMEP and Preseed. Dunno if I am being negative, pragmatic or trying to temp fate.

SoMuchFruit Fri 20-Sep-13 10:49:16

*IYKWIM..

Kt1991 Fri 20-Sep-13 12:56:53

My AF is 5 days late now, POAS on wed but was negative, so not sure whether to test again at the weekend or not? Thinking if it said negative 3 days late, probably means AF will come sometime soon sad. I’ve still been getting period cramps nearly everyday so will see!

BetterNotBitter Fri 20-Sep-13 14:29:55

kt1991 5 days late? Id be testing again!!

Kt1991 Fri 20-Sep-13 14:59:56

I'm not sure if its just because I don't get regular periods though :/ I don't want the disappointment of another BFN either sad.

Metalhead Fri 20-Sep-13 16:27:16

I admire your restraint Kt1991 - I'd probably have used at least 5 tests by now!! If you can wait a few more days and see what happens, that's certainly not going to do any harm and might save you a wasted test, but if AF still hasn't shown by the end of the weekend I'd definitely re-test. How irregular are your cycles usually?

lucyjojo Fri 20-Sep-13 18:22:44

Hi everyone!
Kt1991 have you tested first thing in the morning? Hopefully you'll get a +ve result soon!
I am full of positivity this month, it is my 3rd month of ttc which I suppose in the grand scheme isn't much, but everyday that you're waiting...waiting...it feels like a life time doesn't it! We are ttc everyday if we possibly can until I'm pretty sure ovulation period is over, so another week or so, then eod maybe and I will be crossing my fingers! I'm due for AF on 8/10 as well SoMuchFruit, we can go through the long wait together! I'm really hoping to get a positive result before my DD turns 2 in November, does anyone else feel the pressure to get pregnant again as you can see your DC growing up and getting bigger every day?

Kt1991 Fri 20-Sep-13 18:28:49

Metalhead I must admit I did do one earlier and again BFN, so will test in the morning probably Sunday/Monday although will probably say the same. lucyjojo test I did on Wednesday was in the morning, but possibly too soon? When I was on the pill because of my PCOS too I was getting a period every couple of months, so I’m worried it’s going to be the same off the pill too. Last period before I came off the pill was mid May! (came off Mid July) Metalhead so I think I will have to get some ovulation tests to check I am deffo ovulating.

donnas1984 Fri 20-Sep-13 19:14:05

Hi lucyjo! My dd will be 2 in Nov also every day she seems to be more like a big girl she so independent! Feeling abit redundant lol.
Hope everyone has a good weekend! xx

mrsm22 Fri 20-Sep-13 20:03:35

Hi All

mrsm22 Fri 20-Sep-13 20:07:08

Hi All, great to hear from everyone smile No news here either, still waiting for AF and wondering every day if /when she will show her face. It seems we are all in the same boat at the moment , it's a waiting game! I too really want to get pregnant before the end of the year when my little DS turns 2. I hate waiting!

utopian99 Fri 20-Sep-13 20:24:59

Definitely another who feels the pressure for a bfp asap - ds is almost 9 months and we originally thought we'd start TTC at 6 months but house buying delayed plans..
Still no AF since ditching the pill but ewm as some of you kindly explained above might mean i'm.ovulating first?
Lots of fun has been had since pill ditched though, it must have really effected my libido as it's such a change back to what I always thought of as normal..

Metalhead Fri 20-Sep-13 22:35:05

Sorry to hear you've had another BFN Kt1991. It must be really hard when you're periods are that irregular even when you've been on the pill.

I'm also feeling the pressure with regards to age gap, because we waited quite long to start ttc #2 it now means I really feel I have to get pregnant within a year or the gap would be too big. That said, I know I couldn't have started any sooner as I really struggled with PND for a long time and having two close together would have pushed me over the edge.

utopian99 Sat 21-Sep-13 08:56:51

I do wonder at what the reality of two close together will be... We've had two restless nights due to a cold, and I'm knackered!

BetterNotBitter Sat 21-Sep-13 19:34:47

Pretty sure this isn't going to be our month! Although that's not a big surprise, it is the first month!

AF due Thursday/Friday & been exceptionally premenstrual today hormone wise! Also thoroughly knackered for no apparent reason and generally feeling rubbish so looks like this won't be my one and only cycle of TTC!!

lucyjojo Sat 21-Sep-13 19:40:34

Hmm, I just don't think we can win really when it comes to age gaps!!
How old is your first child Metalhead? Sorry to hear you had PND, that must have been such a struggle.
I do a little bit regret leaving it until now to start ttc for #2 seen as it's taking a bit longer than I'd hoped, but that said, I don't think I could have started trying any earlier really, it's nice to have some time back to ourselves as a couple now that DD is a bit older and easier to manage! Although toddlers are exhausting in a totally different way....
Colds are no fun, we're all just getting over one here, hope you have managed to avoid catching it yourself utopian99!

mrsm22 Sat 21-Sep-13 20:32:29

Hi Lucyjojo - I agree with what you say about the age gap thing. I always wanted a 2 to 3 year gap as I think that is nice and close but also not too close. My DS will be 2 at the end if the year and I thought by coming off the pill at the beginning of September that I would have a good chance if being pregnant by or before DS's bday. I'm still hoping for that! How old is your DC? Like you, I couldn't really have started TTC any sooner .
Utopian - I think we came off the pill at around the same time, it's nearly 3 weeks for me so I'm not losing hope yet as I would expect it to be at least a month before getting AF. I just wanted to say that I also feel loads better and more normal since coming off the pill. I think I was a lot less bothered about DTD when I was on the pill and lost my libido a bit and I also feel a lot less stressed and more relaxed about everything. I really do think the pill makes or can make you moody and anxious and emotional, as well as less interested in sex. On hindsight I wish I had perhaps come off the pill in July or August but at the end of the day it's nature and nature will take it's course for all of us.
Hi Metalhead- sorry, how old is your DC again? It's hard remembering with so many of us now! I hope it happens soon for you and this time hopefully much different for you (without any PND)- well done for coming through it obviously very well and wanting another one.
Betternotbitter- let us know if AF appears. For the last few days I've felt a bit premenstrual too, bloated tummy, hair gone oily very quickly, headache, feeling warm and got a couple of spots I can feel under my skin on my chin (I never get spots) so keep thinking AF is coming but then no sign . Maybe she's trying to make her way...
Anyway I hope everyone is enjoying the weekend ! Tomorrow is my birthday (scary 32) so I may not have chance to get on here tomorrow ( not sure yet what the plan is with DH and DS) but I will try get on in the morning and if not, definitely Monday. X

BetterNotBitter Sat 21-Sep-13 23:51:41

kt1991 any test updates? Fingers crossed for you.

lucyjojo utopian metalhead it's so hard to work out the right gap! I've found it hard because I don't feel like my little girl is ready at this moment in time and I feel like the 121 with mummy & daddy is still valuable as she's so small still. But in 9 months time she'll be much more ready for a companion, especially if she keeps progressing at her current rate! And that's hoping it doesn't take too bloody long to conceive! It's a minefield.

mrsm I won't be on tomorrow so a slightly premature happy birthday from me, you share a birthday with my niece and I'm up at this hour baking a birthday cake which had slipped my mind until just before bed! Have a lovely day x x

utopian99 Sun 22-Sep-13 01:35:24

better impressive dedication to cake!

Ovulation and pg test strips arrived today so I only wentand ttested both at 8.30pm. Unsurprisingly got negs on both, given came off pill 2 weeks ago but still slightly sad at this. I am a moron, aren't I?

Hope everyone's having a good weekend! Happy early birthday wishes mrsm..

mrsm22 Sun 22-Sep-13 11:47:15

Thank you BetternotBitter and Utopian xx

donnas1984 Sun 22-Sep-13 13:25:58

Utopian I done the same! I have all the signs Af is on the way yet I go and waste a test! I dont think its stupid well ok I do but its something we all do im sure especially at the start! Hope soon we get bfps and stop feeling sad
Happy birthday mrsm hope your getting spoilt wink!

Metalhead Sun 22-Sep-13 15:03:59

Happy birthday mrsm22! I hope your two boys are spoiling you today and you can forget about the stresses of ttc for a while.

Sorry to hear you've been disappointed utopian but as you probably already know it would have been too early to test after just 2 weeks of the pill.

Coming back to the age gap, my DD is 3.3, so if I conceived this month we'd have a 4 year gap, which I think would be quite nice for us. However, I don't really want there to be more than 5 years between them at the most as I think they would be too far apart then to have anything in common for a long long time.

Added to this is the dilemma that the in-laws have just revealed they want to take us all on holiday next July or August, which will be just after or on new baby's due date if we conceive between now and Xmas. Really don't know what to do about this - I don't want to tell them we're trying in case it doesn't happen for ages, but at the same time I'd feel bad if they lost loads of money because we had to cancel our booking.

I think we'll just have to make sure this is our month so we know where we stand! Positive thinking! grin

Kt1991 Sun 22-Sep-13 22:05:39

betternotbitter took another test yesterday morning but still BFN and a week late now so think my hormones are completely mucked up! Had really bad cramps last night so was expecting to wake up to AF but nothing.

Happy birthday mrsm22 hope you've had a lovely day and maybe conceive as a birthday present!

Metalhead Mon 23-Sep-13 14:58:51

Any sign of AF yet Kt1991?

I took my first ovulation test today, as expected it was negative with just a faint line but I've got a bumper pack so am prepared! Will start resuming dtd every other day as soon as my parents-in-law are gone tomorrow (well, probably wait until the evening...)

Kt1991 Mon 23-Sep-13 20:00:18

When I checked earlier I had a few really light pink blood when I wiped but that's gone now!! So not sure if its AF/inplantation bleeding or just my body being really weird?! I'm so confused. Does anyone else have any updates?

utopian99 Mon 23-Sep-13 20:34:35

Still nowt. Am trying mightily not to test just for larks - after ditching the pill I couldn't help thinking we'll be pg in matter of days, getting excited, testing way to early toget any result aanyway and then getting disheartened.
Am now leaving it another fortnight as have calmed down a bit I hope! Can you use ovulation tests any time though?

SoMuchFruit Tue 24-Sep-13 08:08:04

Any news Kt1991 ?

Lucyjojo - 3rd month ttc too, it isn't much I know but I get that 'waiting' feeling too. Everything seems to be taking so long. And there are babies and baby things EVERYWHERE.

That's the soonest AF will be here (8/10) as my cycles can be irregular. I have decided there is no 2WW this month. Going to DTD eod until either she shows or I get a BFP.

The 2WW is a too stressy. I feel if I do it like this it's one of 2 things, either AF or a BFP. Unfortunately OH is away from 1st-3rd so hoping that's not when I ov. Typically it probably will be but all I can do is DTD in the morning before he leaves.

Stacks Tue 24-Sep-13 09:57:54

No updates from me either, I only finished with AF a couple of days ago so I've not even ovulated yet. Still ages till a 2ww, plus the fact that as it was first AF and I'm still bf, she could come back anytime. Tomorrow morning I'm going to start tracking my bbt again.

I found TTC stressful last time, as society seems to tell you that you'll get pg instantly - accidents are so easy and common right? I remember thinking I was probably pg from dtd the first time without protection, just days after stopping the pill. It took 18 months in the end! I'm trying to be a little more relaxed this time, but that's easy for me to say just now as I'm not in a 2ww.

Kt - I hope it was just implantation bleeding and you get a bfp soon. What brand test are you using? The digital tests are notoriously slow to show a bfp, I think the super drug ones are meant to be really sensitive, as are "internet cheapies" from amazon etc (the ovulation sticks are good too). Far far cheaper than shop bought, but the same as they use in labs. I recommend them if you're likely to test lots.

mrsm22 Tue 24-Sep-13 10:21:42

Hi everyone, thanks for all your birthday messages! Had a lovely day on Sunday with DH and DS. We went out for the day to a big park with farm and playground (not sure where people are located but we are in Leeds) and out for a lovely meal in the evening. How was the weekend for everyone else?
Utopian - I have a confession, I had to nip out Sunday morning and while I was out I picked up a pack of 2 pregnancy tests in tesco and stupidly did one when I got back Sunday morning . It's only 3 weeks since I've been off the pill, well tomorrow but I just thought 'what if' but sadly and obviously got a BFN. Did feel disappointed but DH really wanted me to do one just on case. I'm the same as you, I wonder if we can still check for ovulation without yet having a period. Does anyone know ? I'm thinking now that it isn't really that long til Xmas and I really wan to conceive by then, as we all do!
I agree with Stacks, you read and hear about how easy it is and stories where people got pregnant after missing one pill etc. We are DTD pretty much every day but I personally think that I am waiting for AF and that I probably won't conceive until after then. As someone above said before, and a doctor told me last time I was TTC you CAN still ovulate without having AF and get pregnant but usually a sign that you are ovulating is to have or get AF.

mrsm22 Tue 24-Sep-13 10:32:37

Metalhead- Good news about your positive ovulation test, good luck trying and fingers crossed for you! As for a possible 4 year gap, I think that's perfectly fine. Re the holiday with your inlaws- definitely don't think you should tell them that you are TTC as it just adds more pressure . I suppose the question is , do you want to go away with them next July /August and if so I think for now you'd have to say yes and if you are pregnant by then depends how you feel about travelling. I personally don't like to go abroad or far from home in case anything happens but u would say yes for now ( if you do want to go) and then if you are you can always let then down. At the DVD of the day , these things happen and crop up and plus if they cancel enough in advanced they can probably and often not have have to lose their money as presumably they would still go? Just my advice anyway x

Metalhead Tue 24-Sep-13 11:49:42

Thanks mrsm22, we have decided not to tell them as like you say it would just add more pressure. We'd love to go on holiday with them as it would be free for us and we had a really nice time when we went this year. I think if I was pregnant I'd be fine, but the thought of going abroad with a newborn fills me with dread!! Second time round is supposedly easier, but last time I wasn't really in any fit state to leave the house for a month, let alone go abroad... anyway, we shall wait and see what happens!

Just did another opk and the line is still quite faint, though possibly a bit darker than yesterday so I'm taking this as a good sign. Also -TMI warning! - I've been having quite a lot of stretchy cm since yesterday, so will definitely have to get DH to dtd tonight!

I'm sure you can do opks anytime, even before you've had AF after coming off the pill, it just means you could potentially be testing for a long time without getting a positive result. I'm using the cheap tests off Amazon, and if I understand it correctly they show a faint line for most of the month and then a darker line for the day of ovulation or just before.

BetterNotBitter Tue 24-Sep-13 13:06:02

Re timing of ovulation tests, yes anytime goes.

Obviously, if you know where you are in your cycle you'll know roughly when to test but I had no idea what my cycle was doing when I had the implant removed. Tested after some ovulation symptoms & it was positive.

As far as I understand, you'll ovulate a few weeks before your period even when you've just come off the pill etc. so if you came of the pill 3 weeks ago, it's very possible you'll have ovulated in that time them you'll have a period if you haven't been lucky enough to conceive.

Does that make sense to those asking! Not sure if I've explained that very well!

mrsSOAK Tue 24-Sep-13 13:29:06

Hello lovely ladies,
Just an update: AF arrived 3 days late sad
It is much heavier than before (only 2nd period since removal of coil) and much more painful.
I am a little worried that my cycle might have changed and I am getting my fertile dates wrong because of it.
Fingers crossed for those of you waiting for AF!

mrsm22 Tue 24-Sep-13 16:45:46

Thank you BetterNotBitter - that is very helpful! So who knows , I may have ovulated somewhere in the last 3 weeks or may even be ovulating now . I just hope I'm not without AF for 5 months like I was first time I came off the pill to try for DS!
Metalhead - think you've done the right thing re the inlaws and the holiday! Let's hope u defo have a newborn then(not for the inconvenience of the holiday obviously)! Good luck to us all! I hate all this waiting x

mrsm22 Tue 24-Sep-13 16:51:10

Hello MrsSOAK - how are you? Sorry to hear your AF did show , after a few days late I'm sure you might have had your hopes up and also sorry to hear it's more painful and heavier. At least you are having AF though and therefore obviously you are ovulating! I wish I was having AF just to know things are back to normal. I thought about having a coil after DS and wish now that I had as it doesn't mess about with your hormones. Good luck for next month

BetterNotBitter Tue 24-Sep-13 18:21:42

Oh my goodness! I'd forgotten what proper pms/pmt was like after years of hormonal contraception!

I've been awfully moody & hormonal since Sunday, with intermittent cramps & backache too. My poor husband doesn't know what's hit him with my sudden snappiness. It's terrible!

The worst part about it is that it's means AF is imminent and so it's an even more bitter pill to swallow!

donnas1984 Tue 24-Sep-13 19:49:40

Better
I'm the exact same smile sad angry Thursday was the tears the followed by a weekend of bi-polar behaviour lol! Backache and cramps yday and today can only mean AF is just around the corner. Hopefully next cyle will be the one.
Would mean I can start with the opk's properly!
Anyone else getting symptoms of AF? (I hope not!)

Kt1991 Tue 24-Sep-13 20:00:22

stacks I've been using the cheapy ones from amazon, but if I continue to get these symptoms and no AF I will buy some more expensive ones just to see! I had little bit of browny kind of stuff earlier this time. Sorry TMI but it was gone soon as I wiped!

MrsSOAK sorry to hear AF had arrived, always horrible when it's late and a lot heavier. Hope this will be the last one for you and then you can work out your cycle properly.

Kt1991 Tue 24-Sep-13 20:33:53

Sorry another update. Looks like AF has arrived now sad 9 days late too.

mrsm22 Tue 24-Sep-13 20:37:49

Kt - sorry to hear that AF has arrived. Fingers crossed for next month x

Metalhead Tue 24-Sep-13 20:47:50

Sorry to hear that Kt - at least now you can stop wondering what's happening. Better luck next cycle hopefully!

Kt1991 Tue 24-Sep-13 20:53:57

Thanks mrsm22 and Metalhead good luck to the rest of you for this month!

donnas1984 Tue 24-Sep-13 21:33:04

sorry to hear that kt. such a bummer sad xx

BetterNotBitter Wed 25-Sep-13 07:38:07

Aww no kt what a pain! 9 days late too.

Metalhead Wed 25-Sep-13 07:45:41

Morning ladies! Well after last night I'm seriously tempted to reconsider my plans for a second DC... DD was screaming the house down for half an hour in the middle of night for no good reason, which meant I got so pissed off I couldn't go back to sleep when she finally shut up, so now I'm very sleep deprived and very grumpy! angry No idea how I would cope with a new baby on top if that... sorry, rant over.

donnas1984 Wed 25-Sep-13 19:37:45

Metalhead hope you have a better night tonight! It's murder when they're up through night, it is a put off. My dd is suffering from constipation and I feel utterly useless sad ive tried getting her to drink fruit juice, warm water and shes been splashing in the bath for 40mins. Anyone any suggestions? xx

BetterNotBitter Wed 25-Sep-13 21:18:15

donnas might be a bit late now as you asked hours ago but a teaspoon or two of brown sugar dissolved into some warm water might help. I wouldnt give it before bed though unless she's in pain through needing to go. Its usually pretty effective but often has somewhat explosive results.....

SoMuchFruit Thu 26-Sep-13 10:48:29

Donnas Hope your LO is better now but if in case not, the brown sugar & warm water as better posted about was also something I used and it does seem to work (and yes, can be explosive!)

CD16 today for me today (assuming a 30 day cycle) and still DTD eod. We have always had a fairly lively sex life but it's like being rampant teenagers again grin

donnas1984 Thu 26-Sep-13 12:10:38

somuchfruit go you! my dh has been nigh shift all week and im still symptomatic for Af would have been convenient for it to show this week!
Thanks for the advise better! Dd still not great will try the sugar water but shes not eating or drinking muchsad.

mrsm22 Thu 26-Sep-13 13:42:15

Hi Metalhead - sorry to hear about your DD keeping you up in the night. If it's any concellation, my DS won't sleep in his own bed at the moment and is in ours (makes DTD slightly more difficult)! We are thinking about getting him a single bed this weekend.

Hi Donnas - is your DD any better with the constipation? Again, like the others have said I think plenty of water and fruit juice is great. i hadn't heard about the sugar so will bare that in mind.

How is everyone else? It is 3 weeks now since i've been off the pill and no symptoms or anything, so the wait continues.

Somuchfruit - Know what you mean, we are DTD a lot at the moment although not since monday night this week as exhausted wit work and had difficulty getting DS in his own bed so it's been 3 in a bed.

HungryHorace Thu 26-Sep-13 17:52:43

Hello!

I think I'm going to win the most mental poster prize as DD is just 3 months old and we are TTC number 2!

My first cycle after my bleeding stopped was a ridiculous 17 days. I'm now on CD20 of cycle 2 post-pregnancy and I've no idea if / when I OV'd. I had OV pain when TTC DD, but none so far this time.

We are DTD every 2-3 days and have been since CD7. No mean fear with a baby who's still up twice a night for feeds!

Sorry for recent BFNs for people. Fx we all get lucky soon.

Oh, the reason we are hurrying for number 2 is that I'm 37 in November, so want to crack on with it!

Metalhead Thu 26-Sep-13 18:56:09

Good god HungryHorace, you must be mad! shock When my DD was 3 months sex was still too painful to even consider doing it more than once a month, if that... still, good for you!

I had ovulation pains the last couple of days, and then what I think was an almost positive ov test this lunchtime, so although it seems a bit early considering my recent cycle lengths (I'm CD14 today and average cycle has been 33 days) I think I might be about to ovulate. Just hoping DH won't be too tired for a quickie tonight as Thursday is his busiest day at work...

HungryHorace Thu 26-Sep-13 19:35:29

Good luck persuading DH, Metalhead! :-)

And yes, I must be insane. I regularly think the same at 3am when DD is screaming! Ah well, we don't want her to be an only, so TTC is the way forwards.

Also, if I got pregnant this or next cycle I don't have to go back to work. I would go from mat leave to annual leave to mat leave! Come on body, don't let me down. :-)

donnas1984 Thu 26-Sep-13 20:01:31

Hungry welcome! good for you being so decisive! My dh nagged me for months before I agreed. Today I found out another mummy from toddler group is expecting so that's now 5 people pregnant again! Just hoping that there is something in thw water haha!
Also dd still not right direct care gave me some some mild laxatives hope they help sad

utopian99 Thu 26-Sep-13 20:23:39

Good work Horace! We were going to start at 6 months then put it off due to house circumstances. Semi wish we had now - been TTC for 2.5 weeks so already assuming it'll take yars...

utopian99 Thu 26-Sep-13 20:24:45

Oops spelling fail. I don't think in months and yars!

HungryHorace Thu 26-Sep-13 21:09:29

DD is currently constipated, Donna, so I feel your pain. I hope your DD feels better soon and the laxative works.

Utopian, hindsight is great, isn't it? :-/ I hope you have success soon.

SoMuchFruit Fri 27-Sep-13 03:20:39

Blimey Horace that's bonkers impressively keen! FX you get your BFP. I didn't get back onto that particular horse until DS was 4mths I think if DH had suggested that we ttc I would have pummelled him!

I'm 38 and DS is 4. I didn't really really want to ttc until this summer. If it had happened great but if it didn't, not a problem now of course, it's not happening..

Donnas / mrsm22 - it's tiring but it's reminding us of our yoof grin

And yes. It's 3.19am, I am watching SVU and on MN. Just can't sleep. At all.

BetterNotBitter Fri 27-Sep-13 08:51:31

Well after a week of pain, AF has arrived today! Not a surprise as I've said before & at least it's bang on time so my cycle has been a regular 28 day.

Will be due to ovulate 6th-11th of October, so will try for then. If we're not lucky enough to fall pregnant in that cycle, we're thinking about deliberately not trying during the Next ovulation as that would give us an august due date.

Before I became a SAHM I was a primary teacher and I can't help but feel wary of an august baby...what's everyone's thoughts?

HungryHorace Fri 27-Sep-13 09:09:06

Hi Fruit! Yep, officially bonkers, but I am scared that waiting would lead to DD being an only. Probably daft!

Small babies do make it hard to do find time to DTD though, so maybe she wants to be an only!

It seems Sod's law is in action for you too though. :-(

Did you get back to sleep in the end?

Better, boo to AF arriving. Fx for next time.

I don't think I'll stop to avoid August, tbh. I don't want to limit my chances really. And they could be early / late and still avoid it.

I had right ovary pain last night. Seems a bit late for OV, but who knows post-pregnancy?!

lucyjojo Fri 27-Sep-13 09:18:02

Hello all, just wanted to dive in quickly as I'm off away for the weekend, will have a proper read through and reply to everyones posts when I'm back on Monday. Just wanted to mention that I've only just found out that it's not good to use lubricants when ttc, such as KY jelly - which I have been using for the past 3 months!!! Sorry if thats tmi, but I am a bit peeved to find out. Its not a spermicide but it hinders the mobility of the little guys so its not ideal when you're ttc!!! I'm sure people have conceived in the past whilst using it, but I just feel like the past 3 months have been a bit wasted sad, and I am currently ov but my DH is away for the next few days, so probably won't happen again this month. On a more positive note I have just bought some conceiveplus which hopefully will help speed the little guys along, and next month will be our month, which means I will hopefully get a BFP on my DDs 2nd birthday!! Anyway, I just felt i needed a rant about that, and some advice to you all if you didn't already know!!! Hope you all have a lovely weekend of BDing!!

HungryHorace Fri 27-Sep-13 09:22:29

Lucy, we got upduffed the first month of using CP with DD and as you don't need much, we've plenty left for this time!

What a PITA re your DH being away. Maybe you'll have a determined swimmer loitering from before he went? * hopeful *

utopian99 Fri 27-Sep-13 09:36:34

Like the idea of a loitering swimmer.. Loitering with intent?
We made the lube vs cp mistake last time then got pg the first month we used it.

Kt1991 Fri 27-Sep-13 09:37:35

Sorry to hear you got your AF too betternotbitter I would still try this next ovulation anyway smile we will be near enough ovulating at the same time so hopefully we can be BFP buddies!

lucy have a nice weekend away, here's hoping that you have conceived already, when's your AF due?

Just read your posts hungry wow your brave! Good luck! Aren't you still quite fertile once you've had a baby for a few months anyway so may not take you too long.

HungryHorace Fri 27-Sep-13 09:44:11

Hi kt1991 :-)

I'm hopeful that I'm super fertile, yes! But can't rely on that as my luteal phase last cycle couldn't have sustained pregnancy at all :-/

It would be great if you and better got upduffed together!

utopian99 Fri 27-Sep-13 19:54:48

I have to go for x rays on Wednesday and they ask if you could be pg. It's been 3 days since we 'properly' DTD (have been larking about with alternatives since then, apologies if tmi) and will continue until after. Also poas this morning to confirm no ovulation or pg so can I assume all is safe? Don't want to risk a very new pg if there could be one but rather need the z rays as they as are to see if having ds has made my spine even worse than before...

mrsm22 Fri 27-Sep-13 20:08:32

Hello All and welcome Hungry!
So glad it's the weekend, I'm not back at work now til next thurs so plenty of time to be DTD with DH. I've still no updates, still patiently waiting for AF or hoping that I may conceive without even getting AF. Something which worried me yesterday was that someone close to me has just found out she is borderline for 'the change' and she is only 35. Fortunately for her she has 4 children already and didn't plan to have anymore but it really worried me knowing that it can happen so early. I'm only just turned 32 but I hope I'm far away from menopause. How sad would that be if it happened when you still wanted more DC!
Lucyjojo - have a good weekend away! Are you going anywhere nice? I thought the same about lubricants so we've given them a big miss.
Hungry - you are very brave starting so soon after your first DD is so young but good on you. I'm permanently tired as my DS isn't a great sleeper and usually ends up in our bed so I do wonder how tired I'll be with two DC but I don't think it matters at the end of the day, it's all part of being a mum. We only started DTD when my DS was 3 months.
BetterNotBitter - bad news about AF! But next month could be your month!

mrsm22 Fri 27-Sep-13 20:16:28

Utopian - Wise I think to play it safe until after you've had your X-ray .
SoMuchFruit - are you managing to get better sleep?

HungryHorace Fri 27-Sep-13 20:24:57

Mrsm, we decided that we may as well just stay knackered as DD seemingly has no intention of sleeping through! And it's the menopause which scares me too. My sister started hormonal changes at 37, so I just don't want to wait and regret it.

Just got to hope it happens.

I bet you can't wait to enjoy your time off. Get DTD as much as possible :-)

HungryHorace Fri 27-Sep-13 20:41:27

Oh, and a woman who I 'met' on a TTC thread last year got pregnant after the pill without her period ever coming back. IIRC it was about 6 months after she stopped the pill.

Another lady on the same thread conceived in her third month, I think, also without her periods returning.

It is possible :-)

mrsm22 Fri 27-Sep-13 21:02:59

Thanks Hungry - that's good to know and gives me hope! I totally agree with what you say about the lack of sleep, if you ask me it's just part and parcel of being a mum and a dad and you're only going to have to go through all the tiredness again with a second one so might as well get it done together while you're already tired ! I'm hopeful for you as they say you're meant to still be very fertile on that first year after having a baby . I've been off the pill for 3 weeks but nothing is happening yet in terms of signs of AF. Wish it would bloody hurry up !

mrsm22 Fri 27-Sep-13 21:35:59

Sorry but what is Conceiveplus? I'm taking Pregnacare Original which is for when pregnant and TTC. I didn't take anything when TTC my DS, only folic acid once I actually found out I was pregnant .

HungryHorace Fri 27-Sep-13 21:59:23

Conceive Plus is a lube which mimics EWCM and makes it easier for the swimmers to get to target!

I got mine from Amazon as it was cheaper than Boots.

Did you have the withdrawal bleed after finishing the pack like you would in a week off?

And I hope I am more fertile now. Though it only took 5 months the first time which isn't so bad. I'm just impatient.

My right ovary has been aching all day still. Wondering why best DTD later, I suppose!

HungryHorace Fri 27-Sep-13 22:02:37
Vijac Fri 27-Sep-13 22:22:57

I'd like to join too! I have a son who is 2 in October and we are planning on starting to try again in Jan. I am just starting to plot my period etc so we know when to get busy haha. We got pregnant first month with ds so hope it's quick this time too but who knows. I think I would ideally like a girl to make the 'set' but having said that my boy is very fun and lovely so another not would be great too grin. Good luck to everyone. All very exciting!!

mrsm22 Fri 27-Sep-13 23:09:16

Thanks for that Hungry - never heard of that before! It took us 7 months to conceive with my DS which also isn't bad (after many years on the pill ) but felt like ages, as it always does when u want something to happen. I too am hoping it is quicker this time. Yes I finished my last pack of pills and had the usual withdrawal bleed . Were you on the pill before you had your DD?
Vijac - are you coming off the pill or anything like that?

Welcome Vijac! I too have a DS who will be 2 at the end of the year. Boys are very loving and cute, I'd like another boy if I'm honest but as long as healthy I don't mind. I really think my DS would love a little bro or sister to play with. Lucky for Hungry - yours will be nice and close together.

HungryHorace Fri 27-Sep-13 23:32:14

I was on the injection and went on the pill instead of having the jab in Feb last year. I then came off the pill in May and conceived in September / October.

Hi Vijac. Do you use an app? I have My Days which I find teally helpful. :-)

donnas1984 Sat 28-Sep-13 09:56:53

hungry ive just downloaded the my days app and have filled it in as well as I can remember!
Im waiting for my first Af since getting implant out, its only just over 3 weeks but seems like forever- is it too soon to poas! ?!
Better sorry its not been your month but now you know you cycle hope next month's luckierwink

HungryHorace Sat 28-Sep-13 16:16:18

Ha, Donna! A teeny bit early, yes! :-)

I'm willing myself to have at least a 28 day cycle this time. At least I've beaten last time's 17 days!

It's daft though, as even though it's not even a year ago, I can't remember what early pregnancy feels like. What's weirder is that I've also forgotten how labour feels too. :-) I remember saying ouch a lot though!!

donnas1984 Sat 28-Sep-13 17:39:31

lol Hungry I couldn't help myself but do one and as I expected bfn!
I wasnt very symptomatic just exhausted then from about 20 weeks I had constant heartburnangry and when I went into labour had an epidural the minute I was allowed haha - birth plan went right out the window!

mrsm22 Sat 28-Sep-13 20:01:09

Hi All, any updates ? I'm nearly 4 weeks off the pill (on 2nd October ) and have got everything crossed that I might get AF on that day. Surely a month would be long enough to start ovulating and get AF?! Getting very impatient.
Hungry- like Donnas, I was really tired when first pregnant and all the way through . Didn't have any other symptoms, no morning sickness or anything, just tired.

HungryHorace Sat 28-Sep-13 20:30:14

I was sick, but not til about 7 weeks.

The thing is, I knew I was pregnant before I tested, but I've no idea how now!

utopian99 Sat 28-Sep-13 20:37:57

I knew I was pg but only because that would have been the worst month for it to happen! We'd only been TTC for two months and I worked out it would mean a Christmas baby so suggested to dh we wait, but he waskeen to forge on.

No actual sickness but week 6-12 I felt like I had a permanent hangover, then felt great till week 39, then just a bit too massive...

HungryHorace Sat 28-Sep-13 20:42:30

Oh, and naughty Donna!

I wasn't ever really that tired, I don't think. But my work wears me out anyway, so I was starting from not overly perky!

Hi all, is there room for another little one? My DS is 14 months and I stopped the pill 4 weeks ago to TTC number 2. Already had my first AF which is a good sign, so fingers crossed it won't take too long! Took us 6 months to conceive last time, and we ended up buying a Clearblue monitor which worked for us first time. So far I've held off buying more sticks for it as, according to DH "we can be more relaxed about it this time" but if it doesn't happen this month I reckon I'll be going to Boots for some on the sly! grin

mrsm22 Sat 28-Sep-13 20:59:15

Hi Mits and welcome to our gang! Wow you've come off the pill and already has AF. That's where I wish I was. Can I ask you how long after stopping had pill you got AF? I have been off the pill nearly 4 weeks and nothing yet. My DS is 22 months old today. Took me 7 months to conceive my DS after stopping had pill but I had been on it a lot longer. Does that make a difference, how long you've been on it?

Was 3 weeks to the day, but the pill I was on really didn't suit me, had a LOT of breakthrough bleeding so don't know if that's got anything to do with my quick recovery! Did have problems last time we conceived with short luteal phases so hoping I'll go longer than 3 weeks before my next one.

I was only on this pill for a few months before my first pregnancy, was on the combined pill for ten years which I loved but had some neurological problems that meant I couldn't take it anymore so swapped to progesterone only which I HATE! We knew it would only be a few months till I stopped so just put up with it.

After DS was born I had an implant and bled constantly for 6 months before I could convince my doc to remove it. Once again we knew it wouldn't be long before we TTC so went back on the crappy pill for a few packs before stopping. I suppose really I'm lucky that my system seems to recover quickly from the barrage of hormones I keep throwing at it! Copper coil for me after this one I think.

mrsm22 Sat 28-Sep-13 21:18:42

Oh yes I'm totally with you, copper coil for me next time too! My mum had one and swears by it. I was on the combined pill for years before TTC my DS but I think to come off and get pregnant in 7 months wasn't bad. I just hoped/hope this time it would be quicker and really want to be pregnant by Xmas. My doctor said anything from 3 weeks to 3 weeks to get AF after stopping the pill. I suppose 3/4 weeks isn't long but I will feel much happier when I know I'm ovulating and things back to normal. Never again with the hormonal contraception!

HungryHorace Sun 29-Sep-13 05:48:59

After number 2 I'm going back on the injection, I think. I hate periods and hormones and I feel very hormonally neutral on that! As in no ups and downs throughout a cycle.

Argghhh...DH is playing with DD while changing her nappy. She'll never go back to sleep. I think she's his baby in that case!

mrsm22 Sun 29-Sep-13 08:33:01

Hungry - you were up early today! Did your DD go back to sleep?

Kt1991 Sun 29-Sep-13 09:18:05

Morning ladies how are we all today? Think that's the Witch done with me this month thankfully so back to DTD! Although I'm getting period cramps still today even though no blood since Friday so hoping she doesn't carry on! I'm still not sure about my cycles now as this was 37 days since my last one so going to go with that and see what happens next month. Really want to be pregnant by Xmas too!

HungryHorace Sun 29-Sep-13 09:36:00

Mrs, DH took DD. She slept on him but not in bed. Ah well!

Good luck, KT. :-) What's the DTD plan this cycle?

Kt1991 Sun 29-Sep-13 09:44:49

I've got a bit obsessed and downloaded loads more apps to try figure my cycle out! Think I should be ovulating around 12/10/14/10 so will do as much DTD as we can around then! May buy some tests from amazon to check now, as the past 2 months just been Guessing and DTD lots lol.Another reason why I really really want to conceive this month now is that DH has to work away for 3 weeks between beginning of Nov and just before Xmas! And I think one of the weeks is when I might ovulate so really don't want to miss out!

mrsm22 Sun 29-Sep-13 11:25:18

Hi Kt. - glad AF has gone now for you. At least you know you are definitely ovulating so fingers crossed you should have a good chance of getting pregnant by Xmas . Wouldn't it be good if we all were and fell on together around the same time? We could move our threat and rename it with all the same members.
Hungry- my DS slept in our bed all last night, as he does most nights ( I regrettably let him stay with is too long before moving to his own room, won't make that mistake again! We have DTD this morning but I still have no idea if I'm ovulating yet. I don't know what will come first for me a BFP or AF. If you ovulate a couple of weeks before you have AF then that could mean for example that I could be ovulating now ready for AF in a couple of weeks and if we managed to DTD at the right moment then I would miss AF altogether . But it's all just speculation at the moment.

HungryHorace Sun 29-Sep-13 12:18:55

Mrs, that's why it's best to DTD every 2-3 days in your cycle. You have more chance of catching OV and you're kept 'topped up' with swimmers (lovely!).

We haven't DTD since CD19 on Weds now. Think we've lost the momentum. Worst case that should see me with live swimmers til CD22, so I'm sure we would have caught OV. Just have to hope for fertilisation.

Maybe we should do it today too?! Argh.

Mrs, where do you banish DS to in the morning to allow you to DTD? Does he go easily? :-)

I must buy some internet cheapie pregnancy tests. Can't justify expensive ones til I get a result on a cheapie!

Metalhead Sun 29-Sep-13 13:30:16

Hi ladies, hope everyone is having a nice weekend! I had a girls night out on Friday with all my old NCT friends which was lovely, though I'm very much hoping I'll have to stay off the booze for the next one in January due to being upduffed...

I had a very definite positive opk yesterday on DC17, so got busy with DH last night and will try and do it again tonight just to make sure. After that we'll probably keep up the dtd every other day routine for at least a week, and then keep our fingers crossed that we've done enough this month. (Sod's law it will actually happen this month as this would give me a due date just 5 days after DD's birthday, which is really not ideal!)

AF should be due 14/10 - anyone else potentially testing around then?

Kt I've been using the Amazon opks too, defo worth the £8 for a pack of 50!

HungryHorace Sun 29-Sep-13 13:40:24

Fx Metalhead!

Realised I forgot to say hi to Mits! <waves>

Kt1991 Sun 29-Sep-13 13:54:42

mrsm yep I would say DTD every couple of days at the moment until you get an AF and know your cycles! My DS keeps creeping into our bed too really struggling at bedtime with him recently so really hoping he will go straight down tonight for us then time for baby making! Fingers crossed metalhead! will have a look online later and order some thank you smile sorry same here hi to mits I'm using my phone and can't see other posts before I post mine frustrating! Having to remember what you've all said lol xx

Room for one more? DS is two and dh has been adamant since his birth that one is enough. I've been so heartbroken that I was tempted to leave, but today he said "you know, I've been thinking, maybe..." grin

Whoop!!!! So, what do I need to know? Ds was a 'surprise' so I've never ttc before.

donnas1984 Sun 29-Sep-13 21:43:19

A Truth welcome! My dd will be 2 in Nov and my dd has been on at me for months for another.
hope everyone had a good weekend in pretty sure Af has arrived sad had a wee spot of blood when I wiped earlier (tmi sorry) fx fir next month xx

donnas1984 Sun 29-Sep-13 21:45:26

very sleepy... explains the god awful spelling!

Just trying to decide whether to watch Downton (we're on +1 as DS went to bed late) or pounce on DH before he changes his mind

donnas1984 Sun 29-Sep-13 22:04:49

strike while the irons hot!

Sigh. Okay then. I guess there's always iplayer...

HungryHorace Mon 30-Sep-13 03:49:28

Hi ATruth :-)

You need to get to know your cycle (using an app will help) and DTD a lot at least throughout your fertile period, if not your full cycle if you don't know when you OV.

And try to enjoy it! :-)

BetterNotBitter Mon 30-Sep-13 07:58:31

Morning everyone!

Had a very busy weekend, which included some of our close friends with their newborn on Saturday.....cliche indeed but you do forget how tiny and how much work they are! Both husband and I came away even more broody though!

I'm also a my days app user & think its great.

As for pregnancy symptoms, I mustn't hAve had many early on, as didn't find out until 7/8 weeks, after that I had bad sickness until 14 weeks.

I'm very much looking forward to the pregnancy part as well as the baby at the end of it, I loved being pregnant last time, what about everyone else? Good pregnancy, bad pregnancy?

BetterNotBitter Mon 30-Sep-13 07:59:51

Oops also, welcome atruth And mits

BetterNotBitter Mon 30-Sep-13 08:02:00

atruth I'm the same as you, last time was a very happy accident so it's the first time TTC for us too!

mits I don't blame you wanting to track ovulation!nit makes things less stressful I think!

donnas1984 Mon 30-Sep-13 08:27:52

Ok peeps so further to last nights update AF did not show through the night. This morning I wiped and had clear discharge streaked with blood slightly more than last night (but still miniscule)... could it be implantation bleeding? I never had it with dd? fx!

SoMuchFruit Mon 30-Sep-13 08:32:55

Morning all, hello Atruth and Mitsuru

Hope everyone had a nice w/e. Busy here but still making time to DTD eod. Think I ov'd Fri/Sat. Not sure though. Will keep dtd just in case.

I quite liked being pregnant. I was pretty sicky from about 4wks until about 25wks then it went, literally overnight. After that it was fine bar some pain from a fibroid (that I didn't know I had!) so I enjoyed it.

SoMuchFruit Mon 30-Sep-13 08:33:39

That sounds like it might be promising Donnas! FX for you.

Metalhead Mon 30-Sep-13 09:41:54

Morning ladies, and welcome to the newbies!

donnas that sounds very promising! With DD I had a little bit of blood, thought AF had arrived and two days later got my BFP, so fx for you. I'd say if you don't start bleeding more heavily today you're definitely in with a chance smile

I'm actually not looking forward to being pregnant at all, I hated it the first time round sad. I felt really sick all day from around 7 weeks til 12 weeks, and just really resented all the restrictions that come with it (what not to eat, what not to do) as well as feeling like a beached whale towards the end. And that was without any real health problems! The only thing I did enjoy was feeling the baby move.

HungryHorace Mon 30-Sep-13 11:07:19

That's really promising, Donna. :-) Fingers firmly crossed.

I didn't mind pregnancy, neither loves nor hated it, but agree that the movements are the best bits.

I was sick til about week 17 and had slight bleeds at 20 and 24 weeks which were caused by a sore bit on my cervix, apparently. Scary at the time though.

My uterus has ached all weekend. It felt a bit like AF is coming, but it hasn't so far.

I'm not really meant to get pregnant for a year due to having an EMCS, but I read up on the risks and they're not huge. It does worry me a bit as to whether my body can cope with it. We shall see, I suppose. :-/

mrsm22 Mon 30-Sep-13 11:11:46

Welcome A Truth! Have you just literally come off any contraception i.e pill or implant? My DS will be 2 on 28th December.
Hungry- if you want cheap but good pregnancy tests try Tesco. I got a packet of 2, tesco own brand for £3.50! Can't beat that. I bought them last weekend and I used them why trying to conceive with my DS. I got a BFP with one of those. I think the Clearblue ones are good as they can tell you how many weeks you are etc but I am sticking with Tesco. Cheap and good! Our DS is not with us every night but like Kt says , lately he is creeping in with us and I am soft. If we DTD on a morning we put DS in his bedroom to play, it's only a quickie though as all you have time for. Is it true that you should lie with legs on the air to help the swimmers get to where they need to go?

Betternotbitter - glad you both got broody at the weekend. Did you have lots of cuddles with the new baby?

Stacks Mon 30-Sep-13 11:39:14

Sorry I've been AWOL for a while, we're now in our first 2ww I think. I've no real idea though, as I've only had one AF since having DS.

Welcome to the new people, and good luck to everyone. I hope to keep up a bit better now. smile

HungryHorace Mon 30-Sep-13 16:05:58

Mrs, I've never done the legs thing, but I try to DTD at night and remain horizontal for a while! I've heard that it's unnecessary as a sperm which is going to make it will do so whatever. I'm not sure though, but that's TTC for you...we just want to give ourselves the best chance.

I've got internet cheapies on the way. Just need to hold out now. Think I'll test at the end of the week. My BFP last time was on a First Response Early Result test. And a CB digi the day after (2 days before our wedding!).

And we only have quickies too. Sex for a purpose!

donnas1984 Mon 30-Sep-13 21:37:01

Have spoken to dh tonight and we have decided that if I still don't have Af by the weekend we'll test! Lucky i ordered a bumper pack from Amazonwink Have been running to the loo all day to check! (saddoblush)
My issue is I have no idea when af would be due ive not had a natural period since jan 2011! back then I was a 28 day cycle, got my implant out almost 4 weeks ago - seems like months ago!

Is anyone else in limbo atm?

donnas1984 Mon 30-Sep-13 21:38:55

hungry and mrsm
dh and I dont know anything other than quickies ha! x

That sounds promising Donna grin I had period symptoms and a teeny amount of blood with both of my pregnancies.

We've just been using condoms (and knackeredness-induced abstinence) so no big hormone rush or anything. I'm still BFing though so hoping that won't cause problems.

mrsm22 Tue 01-Oct-13 11:39:07

Good morning ladies, how is everyone today ?
Welcome back to Stacks!
Well it will be 4 weeks tomorrow that I stopped taking the pill and I've not had any period like symptoms or anything. I'd be really happy to get AF soon. I also don't know how long to leave it without taking a pregnancy test. If I haven't had AF in 4 more weeks (so that would be 8 weeks off the pill) do you think I should take a test then ? Would like to do it sooner but hate the disappointment ! I really thought as soon as I came off the pill that I'd fall pregnant, I thought if your body had done it once that it would be quicker next time round. I know it's only 4 weeks but it feels like ages and I know I'll be really disappointed if I'm not pregnant by crimbo, but I suspect we all will be if that's the case. Let's hope not.
I loved pregnancy because I felt fine apart from very tired all the way through (and I'm still always tired now). I loved it when I had my baby bump showing. Whenever I had a bath, he would start to really kick and you'd see it and he also always came alive at bed time.
Donna - any developments with you? I had a bit of bleeding one night before bed ( actually thought it was AF) but it was a 'show' and I had no more bleeding through the night. I was pregnant with my DS!

HungryHorace Tue 01-Oct-13 11:42:59

My Days is asking if I'm pregnant today as I only had a 17 day cycle last time, so it thinks I'm 7 days' late starting AF!

I'm symptom spotting like mad. I need to calm down! First month up duffs rarely happen, especially at my age!

HungryHorace Tue 01-Oct-13 11:44:52

It's great that we're all so impatient. I'm in such good company.

How do people without a resource like this cope with TTC?!

mrsm22 Tue 01-Oct-13 12:23:29

Good question Hungry!

Metalhead Tue 01-Oct-13 12:44:23

Hi mrsm, I'm sure you could take a test soon if you wanted to as technically you could be pregnant by now if you assume a normal 4-week cycle. However, I understand you don't want to get lots of BFNs - first cycle ttc I wasted about 5 sticks as I was convinced I was preggers! Maybe wait another couple of weeks and then test?

I had awful cramping yesterday, which I assume was ov-related as I had my positive opk on Saturday. Always thought these cramps came before ovulation but looks like I was wrong there, which might explain why we weren't successful the last 2 cycles! Anyway we dtd Sat, Sun and Mon and will keep it up every other day for the next week, so hopefully this will be our month.

Metalhead Tue 01-Oct-13 12:46:32

Hungry I think mad symptom spotting is very common first cycle! After that you learn to rein it in a bit (though cant say I'm not doing it at all anymore... just being a bit more realistic!)

mrsm22 Tue 01-Oct-13 13:03:57

Thanks Metalhead , I think I will give it another couple of weeks. I doubt I'll be able to wait much longer ! Yes, fingers crossed this will be your month! x

donnas1984 Tue 01-Oct-13 13:18:20

okok Im so impatient! I got a faint BFP shock omg could it be true! I will do another test tomorrow to confirm. but a lines a line right???

Metalhead Tue 01-Oct-13 13:36:17

Oh wow, huge congratulations donnas! A line is definitely a line! smile

HungryHorace Tue 01-Oct-13 13:44:15

Wow! Well done, Donna :-) I hope you bring us luck!!

Stacks Tue 01-Oct-13 14:41:32

I loved being pregnant, I wasn't sick at all, just had nausea for the first couple of months. I also never got particularly big or uncomfortable - I was still going out for walks when I was overdue, could walk a couple of miles with just a bit of hip discomfort.
However I hated having to be induced, my body just didn't seem to want to give birth. I ended up on the hormone drip, but when they stopped it everything stopped - absolutely nothing natural about my birth experience in the end. I wanted a water birth with just gas and air, instead I had an epidural and emergency csection. sad

Truth I'm sure you said, but how old is your DC? I'm still bf too, my DS is 9m and I only just got my first AF. Hoping it'll be quick and easy getting pg this time!

mrsm I'm not sure how I'm going to time testing if I don't get AF! There's no guarantee our cycles will be at all predicable, so how do you know when you're late?! I think I'll probably wait as long as I can, then start testing one day a week, probably weekends. Not too much disappointment, but not too much second guessing either I hope.

donnas yep, a line is a line. You can't get a false positive! It'll be very early days, but right now, you are pregnant. Congratulations!

Hungry it's soo hard not to symptom spot, and so unfortunate that most early pg symptoms are also pre-AF symptoms. As long as you don't go mental with it, it can be fun to indulge in some symptom spotting smile I'm not letting myself think about it too much, or I know I'll get super impatient. I am taking my bbt each day though, to try and spot ovulation so I can stop making the effort to dtd when tired so I know when to expect AF next.

Metal trying to spot ovulation is almost as bad as symptom spotting pg for me. I try and just dtd eod as long as I can, and ignore when ovulation might be - at least until my temp change shows it happened and I can relax.

BetterNotBitter Tue 01-Oct-13 18:21:48

Yay for donnas!!!!!!!! Congratulations!! (Touching wood and hoping for a less faint, definite line next time you test)

mrs if I were you I don't think I could wait another 4 weeks to test....maybe 2?! But I know what you mean about not wanting a negative. Do you have ovulation sticks? What about testing those every week until then, to try and work out where your cycle could be? And yes, we had lots of cuddles, and an awful lot of pacing the floor with him to try and put him off feeding for a while (he's feeding every 20mins as is very colicky and unsettled and already using mum as a pacifier so she's shattered bless her)

stacks it really is annoying how early preg symptoms are the same as AF, annoying and abit cruel! What a horrible shame about your first birth, how do you feel about the next time round?

metalhead I totally agree that the first cycle is the worst for symptom spotting. (I say, even though I've only had one cycle so can't really compare yet) Due to begin ovulating at the end of this week but feel a lot more relaxed about it than I did last month. Will probably do full circle if I'm not pregnant 5 or 6 cycles in though!

A line is a line grin

Stacks - DS is 2 but I got af back when he was 6mo.

donnas1984 Tue 01-Oct-13 19:34:35

Thanks everyonesmile
feeling slightly disheartened as I came home from work and poas again and the line was practically invisible. I know you're meant to test with fmu I was just so excited! maybe tomorrow with be stonger. good luck everyone as windy said this is a lucky thread!! grin

utopian99 Tue 01-Oct-13 20:20:19

Congrats donnas, I think a line is still a line. Hoping your luck bestows bfps on us all..

It's been soooo frustrating not DTD for a week for these x rays. Tested to check still bfn a week ago so have been only doing 'alternative' entertainment to steer clear of risk till tomorrow. Think I will jump dh the minute he gets home.
Unlikely actually with 9 mo ds but I can dream. Still no AF, wondering also if bf is messing up fertility.

mrsm22 Tue 01-Oct-13 20:27:27

Congratulations Donnas, I'm so pleased for you! Let us know tomo when you've done another test but as the rest of our gang say, a line is a line and you definitely wouldn't get a line, faint or otherwise if you weren't pregnant. Well done! xxx oh and Donnas is now the second from our gang to conceive so fingers crossed there's something in the air and it'll continue with the test of us. To say I only started this thread beginning of September, I'd say we are doing really well with two BFP's by early October! X

mrsm22 Tue 01-Oct-13 20:32:14

Stacks. - I was like you with that bloody awful hormone drip and my baby didn't want to come either so I ended up with epidural and forceps delivery (not nice at all ) but lovely pregnancy. I am a bit scared of birth again but next time I would like to try go with no pain relief, maybe bit of has and air . Hopefully no epidural at all.

mrsm22 Tue 01-Oct-13 20:34:20

Good luck Utopian for your X-ray's tomorrow, I hope all goes well and don't worry, you'll be back to DTD in no time!

My 'practically invisible' line is now standing at the top of the stairs shouting "DADDY!!!! DUDDDLE! MINE NO SLEEEEEEEEP" so I'm sticking with the 'line is a line' mantra donna grin

stacks and mrsm - I was also induced and also reacted badly to the drip. I ended up having an emcs. If I'm lucky enough to get a second DC I'm going to try to agree to an elcs if LO hasn't arrived of its own accord by 40 weeks. I hate, hate hate the idea of another induction

mrsm22 Tue 01-Oct-13 21:07:53

A few ELCS in here. I went into labour myself 12 days over with my DS and got to 5cm at home on my own quite easily but had an epidural when I got to hospital and it just stopped anything from happening. All went downhill for me after the epidural. Well I was hoping for AF to come tomorrow, being exactly 4 weeks off the pill and DH's bday ( not relevant but that's how I remembered it was 4 weeks since stopping the pill) so will see. Have had headache all day but that's probably just tiredness.

mrsm22 Tue 01-Oct-13 21:29:59

Random question but is everyone still drinking tea and /or coffee? I'm a big tea drinker but have read that it's bad when TTC.

<eyes wine glass and counts number of coffees drank today>

I'm not taking this seriously enough am I?

Am I allowed to ask if anyone has a gender preference or is that totally off limits on MN?

mrsm22 Tue 01-Oct-13 22:17:50

ATruth - of course, you can ask anything in our gang. I have my DS and I 'd love another DS. Two little boys would be wonderful for me. But obviously to have a healthy and well baby is most important to me so as long as that's the case. My sister has 3 DD 's. What about you, what's your preference? I have had a bit if tummyache tonight , keep thinking 'could that be period pain ' but it bet it's not.

Kt1991 Tue 01-Oct-13 22:29:40

Congrats Donna! Let us know when you have POAS tommorow! And send some luck around to all of us! How's everyone else doing?

Metalhead Tue 01-Oct-13 22:43:35

mrsm I'm still drinking coffee and wine, have just cut back a little. I refuse to put my life on hold for something that might take ages to happen... There'll be enough time for abstinence once I'm actually up the duff!

Atruth I'm in two minds about what I would like second time round. I'm a bit scared of boys as I know a lot of quite boisterous little lads, but on the other hand it might be nice to have one of each, and DD certainly has her diva moments! I guess I wouldn't really mind either way.

mrsm22 Tue 01-Oct-13 22:47:05

Metalhead - a lot of truth in what you've just said, I think. I have cut the tea down a bit but at the same time would hate to not have a cup again and it ends up taking 6 months or more to conceive. Well Donnas has had some fantastic positive news tonight, let's hope it brings us all some good luck x

I also have a DS and I do like the idea of 'the boys', but deep down I've always wanted a dd and would love one of each.

utopian99 Wed 02-Oct-13 03:06:57

I know it's not done to be gender specific, but always badly wanted a ds. Now we have one I am genuinely happy either way for this next which is nice. I suspect dh would like one of each though..

SoMuchFruit Wed 02-Oct-13 07:31:27

Congrats Donnas !!

I think Metalhead has a good attitude. I have similar. I am still drinking wine, tea and coffee but not as much.

As for the gender specifics. I have a fabulous DS and would love another one - he's amazing, but like others I would just love a healthy happy #2 first. Gender doesn't really matter.

HungryHorace Wed 02-Oct-13 07:51:16

I'm still drinking tea. I don't drink coffee and don't often drink alcohol, but I will if I feel like it!

And as for gender, I don't really mind. Cost wise another girl would be better, but either or really!

Donna, is your line darker today?

donnas1984 Wed 02-Oct-13 08:04:20

hungry ive ran out of cheap tests ive order 50 from amazon on sunday night when I was spotting as I thought it was af!
had to use the posh digital one so YES! im pregnant roughly 3-4 weeks so straight after getting implant out! So so happy grin grin grin
thank you all for all your support this is an amazing thread I wish each and every one of you the bestbof luck! I'm hoping you will be joining me in May/June babies (need to sit down and figure this out lol) xxx

Metalhead Wed 02-Oct-13 09:08:58

Great news donnas! Wishing you a very happy and healthy pregnancy, and hopefully we'll all be joining you soon on the June babies thread!

HungryHorace Wed 02-Oct-13 09:10:59

That's fantastic news Donna!

I hope we can all migrate across to June babies with you soon!

BetterNotBitter Wed 02-Oct-13 17:47:11

Ah lovely news donnas

mrsm I'm abit of a pregnancy health freak with stuff like that so I've switched to decaf tea & can't tell any difference in taste so I thought I may as well. I do love coffee but I am sticking to 2 cups max per day. Probably one during the 2ww when I actually could be preggers. I had a glass or two of wine over the weekend, but I was on my period so wasn't bothered. I wouldn't drink during the 2ww but I know that's ridiculously precious lol.

atruth if we were stopping at 2, I'd Like a boy next so we'd have one of each. If however I get my way & we have 3 then I'd love a girl so our little girl could have a sister close in age, I think that'd be lovely for them!

Whoooop! Congrats donna

Thank you all for not flaming me about gender preference. I've also taken your good advice and cut down coffee and started on the folic acid.

Slight problem though - dh is taking drugs for a bad back that seem to be affecting things. Maybe next month...

mrsm22 Wed 02-Oct-13 22:10:26

Congratulations again to Donna and I wish you all the best for a wonderful pregnancy. Please do pop in and see how we are all doing xxx

ATruth- I'm glad you've started on the folic acid. I started taking Pregnacare immediately when I stopped the pill, that one has the folic acid plus is a multivitamin. I don't drink or smoke or not had to cut anything out there and I don't drink coffee but I love tea . Trying to stick to just two cups a day and drinking lots of water. How long is your DH on those tablets?
Better - I'm also a pregnancy health freak. I wasn't keen on decaf tea though but maybe I didn't try the right one. Donna did well conceiving so quickly after stopping was it the implant.

utopian99 Thu 03-Oct-13 20:28:56

I'm.still on the pregnacare bf pills which have the recommended folic acid dose too. Cut out alcohol during the last one so am still enjoying the odd glass here, but don't drink tea and swapped to filthy instant decaff while pg and never swapped back so that helps.. Still no AF though. Rafgfgg.

Apropos of that - what does AF actually mean? And 2ww?

lucyjojo Thu 03-Oct-13 22:12:36

Hello all, how is everyone getting along?
A huuugge congratulations to Donna!! May you bring us mucho good luck!!
We've not been quite so active over in my neck of the woods, after learning about the bad things lube can do, DH being away a few days, then he got a cold, now I have a cold.....it's not been terribly productive! How is everyones enthusiasm holding up? I must admit mine is waning a bit, it feels to me like I will literally never be pregnant again, watching the midwives on bbc really isn't helping matters! Anyone else love to torture themselves with baby programmes?!
I gave up alcohol the first two months of ttc and cut down alot on coffee and tea, but I do need my coffee to function everyday, and I have become a bit more relaxed about it all now, not excessive, but I won't be cutting it out completely until i see a bfp!
I'm hoping for 3 (maybe 4?!) children one day, but it would be lovely to have a DS next.

Ooh, utopian there's one I can actually answer despite being a newbie.

2ww = two week wait (between ovulation and af)
Af = Aunt Flo. Horribly twee term for menstruation.

I'm blush envy at all of you low caff, no alcohol types. I can't get through the day without a morning Costa and being drip fed tea. Should probably cut down now or colleagues will definitely spot if I get pg!

BetterNotBitter Fri 04-Oct-13 08:19:01

lucyjojo how long have you been trying? I think at the moment I feel more impatient than demoralised but can imagine that changing quickly if it takes a long time to happen.

And yes, I am a midwives water too, I think I prefer one born though. But it does make me even more broody lol!

Metalhead Fri 04-Oct-13 08:54:37

Hi lucyjojo, I too have been feeling quite down these last few days and almost ready to throw in the towel, which I know is ridiculous seeing as this is only cycle 3 for us. But despite my best efforts not to symptom spot, I now seem to have become obsessed with opks... I think it's because work is a bit slow at the moment and so I've got too much time on my hands to brood over things! Also my body seems determined to torture me as I've had lots of cramping, bloating and backache pretty much constantly for the last two weeks. I used to get a day or two of cramps around ovulation, but now it just seems to be getting more and more and I know that it's definitely too early for pg symptoms.

I also find the whole having to dtd every other day quite a chore if I'm honest; both DH and I are usually once a week people, and even he doesn't seem overly ecstatic at doing it more often! I think if we manage to get pregnant we won't go near each other for at least a month! grin

I'm also one for watching birthing programmes, though I don't why, I always end up crying as it brings back so many bad memories and feeling from DD's birth.

Stacks Fri 04-Oct-13 09:38:57

I'm another no caffeine one, though I gave it up 5 years ago due to health problems. I also don't really drink alcohol, I think it tastes bad! I will have the occasional glass of wine though to prepare to dtd, again. I also find the regular dtd quite a chore, as did DH last time. However he's keen just now as he's not had any for the last year or so!

I love watching birthing and baby/children programmes. I love everything to do with kids, from 3 day nanny to 16 kids and counting and one born every minute. I've not seen any if midwives though - I never watch tv directly, just iplayer etc so never know what's actually on tv.

I think we're in our 2ww, but I'm not sure really. We're still dtd eod for now just incase. I'm actually feeling rather relaxed about it all so far, I'm sure that'll change soon though.

As for gender preference, I'd love to have a DD. I always said I never wanted one, as I'm a tomboy with 4 little brothers, so find boys easier to understand. However when pg with DS DH admitted to wanting a girl, and it got me thinking. Once I thought about it all, I realised I wanted a girl too. I love my DS though, and also think it would be great for him to have a brother. I think 2 of the same will get on better and play together more.