BFPs will be falling like Autumn Leaves for the Rat Smackers, and we are Brooking No Argument!

(259 Posts)
ControlGeek Mon 02-Sep-13 17:39:44

Last fred:

<Hangs a festive Autumn wreath on the door, starts the wood stack for log fires, and makes sure there is plenty of cocoa and marshmallows in the cupboard>

Making the most of the last days of Summer, but keeping a weather eye out for Autumn, and looking forward to all of those outstanding BFPs!

BlindKitty Mon 02-Sep-13 19:02:44

fox lol at the aloof newborn! grin

geek has obviously not realised we're going to have an Indian summer!!!

Booked my next iui cycle day 2 scan into work diary today. Dh thinks I'm being pessimistic but surely it's best to be practical?

BlindKitty Mon 02-Sep-13 19:04:13

Oh but still love what you've done with the place geek! I'll still have some hot chocolate though (whilst sunbathing)

musicalmrs Mon 02-Sep-13 19:50:29

Definitely good to be practical Kitty - can't hurt smile

Love the Fred Geek! Feels lovely and cosy :-)

May have bought some vitamins for DH and I to start our TTC prep today! smile

ControlGeek Mon 02-Sep-13 20:09:58

Squeeeee!!! So when are you rejoining the fred musical??

kitty I love Autumn, it's my favourite time of the year. As soon as we tick over into September I start to look forward to long walks through piles of red and gold leaves. It does look like this amazing weather is set to continue for a little while though grin

Loopyaboutmy2boys Mon 02-Sep-13 20:48:02

Does this mean AF has finally returned musical? How old is your little one now?

BlindKitty Mon 02-Sep-13 21:15:58

music is this dc#2?

geek I'll have to use that one when trying to persuade Dh to come walking with me now I've given up exercise in the 2ww!

Ooh hi everyone, just got back from the Boo family hollibobs to find you moved while I was away shockgrin who would like to fill me in on the gossip while I tackle the washing mountain? smile

Lovely new well stocked thread Geek

GreenOlives Mon 02-Sep-13 21:49:06

I LOVE autumn too geek!
Lovely new fred! grin

musicalmrs Mon 02-Sep-13 22:30:43

Not just yet Geek... We've agreed December smile But that means we're three months away, so it's folic acid time grin. Have bought us the same vitamins we were both on when we got the last BFP last time, so figure it can't hurt...

Loopy, no, no AF yet. However, the nurse reckons that's down to the pill I'm on plus BF - says it's quite common. We'll see what happens.. DD is 16 months now.

Kitty, yes! My DD was a brooking baby - was TTC for a while, but got my BFP in my first month as a brooker (the power of brooking!).

Welcome back from holiday Boo, did you have a good time? Don't talk to me about washing mountains...

Marks place....

BlindKitty Tue 03-Sep-13 06:57:35

boo welcome back! Remind me where you went

Marking place for the next batch of BFPs wink

Been to Devon Kitty, twas vaire naice too! Had a lovely week. How are you feeling? Any symptoms? Of course you know that no symptoms = diffed grin

Solars Tue 03-Sep-13 08:51:15

Marks place, lovely new thread Geek smile

Kitty brooking for you, when is test date?

Big waves to all.

ScarlettInSpace Tue 03-Sep-13 12:11:16

Ooooh new fred 'ello grin

I bloody lost you!! I nearly had a coronary!

<wipes brow>

Kitty brooking that appointment was made in vain. Ironic BFP is on it's way wink

Musical that's very exciting!!!! Minimusical#2!

I also love the autumn. Though it's going to be 30 degrees here again on Thursday hmm

hinkyhonk Tue 03-Sep-13 18:24:28

<sneaks in and hides behind musical>

I'd better introduce myself (aka hawthers) I was on one of the earlier antenatal brooking threads due to having a high risk pg with ds2 due to ds1 arriving very early and having a very long time in the nicu. ds2 was fine but next pg cpuld be high risk again. I've not had the pleasure of joining the conception threads so hello!

dh and I are considering whether definitely going to try for no.3 but won't decide start until the new year for timing issues re if it all goes pear shaped again but been lurking a little to try to decide if we can face giving it another go. Current thinking is definitely yes! So hello and brooking in reserve unil the new year

BlindKitty Tue 03-Sep-13 18:56:49

boo of course no 'real' symptoms but plenty of 'made up ones' haha. Glad you had a nice time in Devon and hope you are perfectly rested!

solars Sept 11th (bad omen?) although we actually got engaged on Sept 11th as well so maybe a good omen?! Not holding out much hope but at least I can say I've tried it!

maybe I love your optimism

Right, I'd better go for my accupuncture burning £20 notes session. Lets hope I don't run any pigeons over on the way this time!

keepitgoing Tue 03-Sep-13 20:54:29

Ooh musical that's great!

boo devon is almost cornwall, so you may need to poas despite k not being very big...

ControlGeek Tue 03-Sep-13 21:07:14

hawthersssssss!! hinkyhonk even grin I remember you! So thrilled you will are considering trying for DC3, will be lovely to have you on the conception fred. I will be doing my IVF stimming in January, so you never know grin

boo is there anything you would like to tell us? You were very close to Cornwall, you know and you know what happened to you there last time!

maybe no coronaries please, we are not equipped <eyes the first aid kit futilely>

No news here, other than I think we may have missed the boat this cycle. MrG just can't get used to shorter cycles, he needs a really long lead-up to get his mojo going. Me, I'm just panicking because my calculations for January were all based on long cycles!

keepitgoing Tue 03-Sep-13 22:15:05

Is he still on the HGW? wink I think the effects lessen so maybe give him a month off it?

Crikey, hopefully close doesn't count shock grin

ControlGeek Tue 03-Sep-13 23:55:57

He is keep, apparently it is still helping, he comes and goes with taking it - always at least 2 a day though. He has other issues clouding things at the moment.

boo Don't worry, I think the border has magical properties and you will be fine grin

ScarlettInSpace Wed 04-Sep-13 09:14:17

Quick post before I get ready - big brooking today please for the interview!

hi to hink, hopes kitty hasn't got bruises from boob squeezing yet...

Oooh from last fred fox aloe vera is indeed vile, but I have lost 8lbs since Thursday so worth it! And I figure if it was alcoholic I've drunk worse blush

Hinky! I remember you!! Lovey to have you back! Are there going to be Morgan's joining us?!

Sarlett amazing weight loss! Can you start eating again soon?

I promise not to have a heart attack Geek wink. Hope MrG is ok x

<eyes Boo suspiciously>

ScarlettInSpace Wed 04-Sep-13 10:36:55

maybs I bloody hope I can eat again grin got a wedding this weekend so will be taking full advantage!

Just worked out that I'm 15lbs less than when I started this in June, and in that time I've twice put on 5lbs on holidays and lost it again - if I'd not put the extra weight on I'd be 25lbs lighter now and ready to start IUI again. Bah humbug stupid holidays.

But the holidays were worth it wink

I too have a wedding this weekend.....

ControlGeek Wed 04-Sep-13 13:23:48

scarlett 8lb since Thursday? shock That's just over a lb/day! What else have you had to do in that time, other than drinking aloe juice? Are you allowed to eat anything at all ?

He's getting there thanks maybe, it's mostly weight/diabetes related. I've stuck him on the 5:2 diet now whether he likes it or not and I'm hoping it will have the same beneficial effects on his fertility as it did on the mice. Have told him we are both doing this at least until IVF in January. Hopefully by then he will be seeing good results on the weight front, and might stick to it beyond that.

Right, that's my lunch break over with - lots of working late/weekends to be done this month so best get on if I want to attend the meetup!

keepitgoing Wed 04-Sep-13 16:23:43

Scarlett hope you've not fainted in the interview due to lack of food... Good luck, though I'm probably too late

maybe what are you on about the Morgan's for....?

Oh for gods sake!! Thought idbeen cured of imps fingers!

That should've read 'more grads' joining us blush

Scalett I totally forgot its interview day! Hope all went well x

ControlGeek Wed 04-Sep-13 18:00:47

C'mon scarlett, give us the interview news!

maybe I was scratching my head to think what a Morgan's was, thought I had missed something there grin

ThedementedPenguin Wed 04-Sep-13 18:18:03

Hello, you all went missing of my TIO. So had to search have finally caught up but I have forgotten basically everything.

scarlett how was the job interview?

Brooking for everyone else. Can't wait to see some BFPs this thread.

Oh Geek I've lost the plot! Tats good news about your healthy eating plan. Is everything better with MrGs work now?

ControlGeek Wed 04-Sep-13 20:24:13

We won't know for certain until mid-October maybe, but the feedback that MrG's had so far is that things are on track, so that's a huge relief. Not so sure about the healthy eating plan. Today was our second fasting day of this week and I think MrG was starting to see pork chops and legs of lamb everywhere he looked!

Looks like it will be my first ever (as in EVER, ever!) 27 day cycle.

Sorry not to namecheck more, have only just finished work and I'm knackered and can't even have a bloody coffee

Fox82 Wed 04-Sep-13 20:46:46

Hope the interview went well Scarlett! And 8lbs!!! Wow! Very jealous! I keep losing 3lb during the week, then putting on 3lb over the weekend blush

BlindKitty Wed 04-Sep-13 21:18:10

scarlett although you'll have list some weight, a lot of that will be water you know although you may not want to take advice from someone who squeezes her boobs every hour

keepitgoing Wed 04-Sep-13 21:46:56

kitty what boob news? When are you testing?

<pokes Kitty's boobs>

Evening ladies grin

BlindKitty Wed 04-Sep-13 22:14:25

keep they're only hurting coz I keep squeezing them haha! Otd is sept 11th but might have a sneaky poas on sun. The trigger should have left my body by then yeh?

keepitgoing Wed 04-Sep-13 22:20:16

Yes, normally by 9 days post trigger it has gone. You could test tomorrow to check if you were brave. Brooking for you!

keepitgoing Wed 04-Sep-13 22:21:13

How many dpo is Sunday? What is your normal lp? I assume you are not on any fanny candles?

ScarlettInSpace Thu 05-Sep-13 09:30:05

Morning all,

I got through to the next round grin 2nd interview next Weds I also got some really good feedback from the interviewer [who will be my boss] about things I need to work on for the next stage, so she must want to me to do well which is a good sign. If I get through that ok then it's the final meet the directors & do a presentation time eeeek!

Re the diet, its supposed to be a detox really and the weight loss is secondary but I do it for weight loss 10lbs off on the scales this morning, even if its water, its water that shouldn't be there! And I am drinking shitloads of water/fruit teas etc, I've never wee'd so much lol.

The first 2 days are intense, no food just tablets, aloe vera & 1 shake in the evening but from day 2 to day 9 the aloe drops to twice a day & its 2 shakes a day + a 600 calorie meal which I'm struggling to eat if I'm honest. I'm not scientific about the 600 calories btw I just ballpark it, fill up with salad & veg and have a piece of fruit if I'm hungry in the day... Both times I've done it before the weight has stayed off [until I go on holiday and eat/drink like a pig]

The key for me is cutting out carbs I dream of pasta sarnies and drinking water when I'm hungry.

geek glad to hear MrG is on the right track again!

Oh Scarlett that's amazing news, I'm so chuffed for you!! How you feeling about next Wednesday?

10 pounds shock turn sideways and you'll disappear wink

ControlGeek Thu 05-Sep-13 09:53:40

Oh well done scarlett that's brilliant! Sounds like your future boss interviewer must have really liked you to give you tips for the next one. Brooking for Wednesday! Your detox/diet sounds absolutely terrifying. I'm struggling with 5:2, and that's even with knowing I can eat normally the next day. Fabulous results though! My old WW leader used to say you had to burn 5000 calories to lose a lb in weight - no idea how accurate that is, but it does tie in with the deficit your detox gives you.

kitty brooking for you!

ControlGeek Thu 05-Sep-13 09:59:24

In other news FF changed its mind, I am not on for a 27 day cycle sad but on the plus side, we haven't yet missed the boar for this cycle so MrG will be getting dragged upstairs for a pre-WI quicky tonight wink

keepitgoing Thu 05-Sep-13 10:55:53

oh wow congratulations scarlett that's amazing news. Good luck for wednesday, though sounds like you're in with a very good chance I must say. I can't believe your diet!! How can you do that and work...

ScarlettInSpace Thu 05-Sep-13 12:14:41

so um geek is catching a boar part of some medieval ttc routine round your way?

ControlGeek Thu 05-Sep-13 12:20:25

Uhhh something like that scarlett <dons maid marian outfit, hands MrG Robin his bow and points in the general direction the boar was last seen in> blush

grin Geek

BlindKitty Thu 05-Sep-13 18:33:10

geek it's around 3500 cal but differs from person to person depending on build, exercise, sex etc

keep I'm 10 days post trigger, 9dpo today (according to ff) but 8 days post insemination. Normally have a 14 day lp but has been as long as 16 days. My temp dropped below my cover line today so I'm guessing game over though. Did go for a wee on the night but not sure how close it was to waking. What do you think?

BlindKitty Thu 05-Sep-13 18:50:43

Well i guess I'm 9 days post trigger as you take it at night. Oh and what's a fanny candle lol? Is it some sort of prog pessary???

That's exactly it Kitty grin. I don't think temps are always that reliable. Especially if you're taking them orally. There have been ladies on the IVF thread who's temps have dropped and they've been diffed.

hinkyhonk Thu 05-Sep-13 20:11:47

Oi brookers have I got some news for you.

We've just moved house and its got some big sheds with it. My dad is a churchy type and helps run the fete every year. He's asked us to store some crap for it and tonight he dropped off a well known game.

Can you guess what it is?

O M f-ing G Hink!! I'm so bloody excited!!!!!

keepitgoing Thu 05-Sep-13 20:42:54

Sunday could be a bit early then kitty, I think they assume you ov the day of insemination, which would make Sunday 11dpo. And would make today a perfect day for the famous 'implantation dip' of temperatures. Am just saying a bfn on Sunday may not be a bfn.

grin gunk amazing!!

keepitgoing Thu 05-Sep-13 20:43:37

That's hink, not gunk...

BlindKitty Fri 06-Sep-13 06:24:22

keep should my temp rise back up then?

keepitgoing Fri 06-Sep-13 08:38:55

Yes. But I agree with maybe that temping is quite inaccurate...

BlindKitty Fri 06-Sep-13 12:22:16

I know, I don't even know why I bother! Especially as I always go for a wee within the 4 hours of waking!

musicalmrs Fri 06-Sep-13 22:34:25

hink, that's fabulous! grin And so exciting about TTC!

Scarlett, congratulations! That's excellent about your interviewer - they must be keen to have you smile

Kitty, I found temps a bit inaccurate too. That probably won't stop me going temp mad again this time round

BlindKitty Sat 07-Sep-13 08:51:41

music haha! Think I just like some control even though I know it's pointless!!! Did you have a natural conception last time?

keepitgoing Sun 08-Sep-13 16:58:24

kitty are you ok? Did you test this morning?

SweetieTime Sun 08-Sep-13 18:03:17

Evening all - just popping in to mark my place ready for all those BFPs
Brooking for everyone trying, thinking of trying and smacking that rat anyway <looks in hinks direction>

BlindKitty Sun 08-Sep-13 18:30:29

keep Dh fell out with me a bit over it so I didn't do it with fmu. As day passed by I did but by then I'd had 2 pints of fluid so was pointless anyway. Think he likes to live in denial for as long as possible whereas I like to soften the blow earlier! You ok?

keepitgoing Sun 08-Sep-13 21:32:05

Yes, very well thanks kitty. Quite fat now, you'll see. I'm brooking for Wednesday then. It was early anyway, so poas after lots of water was a waste of time. X

anactualnurse Sun 08-Sep-13 21:34:03

Well, am officially skint back from vegas, and the fat lady has sung for me today. Bollocks.

Brooking everyone else has better luck this month.

Off to Cornwall the morra with mr nurse, but won't be coming back with good news. Am not a happy bunny. Tired, emotional and jet lagged.

Will catch up when I get back, peace out x

ThedementedPenguin Mon 09-Sep-13 11:31:06

Oh my you dropped off my TIO again. Think it's a sign that I must talk more grin

kitty when are you testing again?

nurse hope you have a good time in Cornwall.

BlindKitty Mon 09-Sep-13 19:39:41

keep penguin I poas again this morning but it was clearly another broken one wink

Kitty, this just means that you've proven that the trigger has left your system. This way when you get your inevitable BFP in a few days there will be no doubt whatsoever. Fact.

And I'm brooking no argument about it so there!

Nurse so sorry about AF. I hope you're able to enjoy Cornwall x

Kitty seconding what Biscuits said. Did they give you an official test day?

How is everyone? When is the next interview Scarlett?

BlindKitty Tue 10-Sep-13 12:10:44

Erm ok.....iui does work after all......grin

OMG Kitty did you find a working pee stick? CONGRATULATIONS grin grin

ThedementedPenguin Tue 10-Sep-13 12:15:14

kitty I hope that cheesy grin means you got a BFP this morning?

BlindKitty Tue 10-Sep-13 12:17:38

I found 4 working sticks!!!!! Did an ic and the hospital one but still wasn't convinced so sent Dh out at 7.00 to buy a fr and a digi!!!!!! grin

This doesn't feel real....I'm going to wake up in a minute!!!!!

<pinches Kitty> you're definitely awake grin so pleased for you, congratulations again thanksthanks

OMG!!!! Congratulations Kitty! Best news ever flowers

keepitgoing Tue 10-Sep-13 12:24:01

Oh wowee congratulations kitty!! First time lucky! smile

DinoSnores Tue 10-Sep-13 12:25:51

Gosh, I have been a very bad Brooker and have so much to catch up on! I just saw kitty's pictures on FB and had to come and see what was going on. This is all very exciting!

ThedementedPenguin Tue 10-Sep-13 12:27:13

kitty I am so happy for you. Your post actually made me grin

SweetieTime Tue 10-Sep-13 12:49:16

congratulations kitty I am so pleased for you. The power of brookers makes it all possible wink wink

kitty congrats!grin that's brilliant news.

GreenOlives Tue 10-Sep-13 12:53:55

Lovely news kitty! grin grin grin thanks thanks

Yay! Well done Kitty!! That's awesome news gringringrin

Told you didn't I? Honestly I am literally never wrong about ANYTHING. Fact grin

So so pleased for you though grin

Oh and for good measure - here are a few more gringringringringringringrin


Solars Tue 10-Sep-13 13:38:05

Yay!! Kitty I've been trying to keep a look out for your news!! This is excellent news indeed!! Congratulations thanks grin

musicalmrs Tue 10-Sep-13 13:40:06

Congratulations Kitty!! Amazing news! So so pleased for you. Glad you finally found a working stick grin grin

keepitgoing Tue 10-Sep-13 13:48:30

Wonders why so many faulty sticks are allowed to be on sale.

Right then biscuits is kip a boy or a girl, considering you are never wrong... ;)

Ummm, kip is in fact a pair of boy/girl twins where they've never spotted the extra one in scans.

Start buying in twos Keep..... wink

grin Biscuits! Covering all bases there!! <consoles Keep with cake >

keepitgoing Tue 10-Sep-13 17:09:31

Ha - that would be amazing - I just worked out I've had 5 scans so s/he would have to be a master of hiding.... But if that is the case I'll just go to sweetie for advice. Not worried

keepitgoing Tue 10-Sep-13 17:51:11

Actually 7 scans...

keepitgoing Tue 10-Sep-13 17:51:58

kitty how are you celebrating? Or are you at work?

BlindKitty Tue 10-Sep-13 18:08:17

Hi guys! Thanks soooo much for the messages grin

biscuits YES you were right! I'll have more faith in you in future!!!

Something has just dawned on me though..... there were 2 dominant follicles... smile

Yay kitty, twins!!! grin

SweetieTime Tue 10-Sep-13 18:57:25

Did I hear someone say twins???

Ask me anything keep I know nothing but can bluff with the best of them

Fox82 Tue 10-Sep-13 20:00:17

Congrats kitty!! grin soooo pleased for you!!! thanks

Munxx Tue 10-Sep-13 20:01:57

Congratulations Kitty!

NoCupcakesOrCocktails Wed 11-Sep-13 06:23:52

OMG Kitty, amazing news. I'm so happy for you grin xxx

Sorry I've not been around brookers. I've been struggling with it all so I'm trying to distance myself from ttc for a bit. We are starting an appeal with the pct to see if we can get our funding transferred to another clinic. Also I'm still waiting for AF since the miscarriage so I'm very much in limbo land.

I've been thinking of you all and I'm still brooking from afar x

Lots of hugs for you cupcakes xx

Been thinking about you too - hope you get success with the appeal - I'll brook about it just to seal the deal.

Take your time though lovely - we're not going anywhere! xx

BlindKitty Wed 11-Sep-13 07:23:11

Thanks cups. Hope the appeal goes well. You're still in our thoughts smile

I've been thinking of you too Cups. Hope the appeal goes well. It's so important you feel happy with your clinic x

keepitgoing Wed 11-Sep-13 11:07:49

kitty any more poas action? It's otd, yes? Have you called the clinic?

cups another one here brooking you can change clinic. Are you coming next weekend btw?

NoCupcakesOrCocktails Wed 11-Sep-13 12:02:53

Thanks everyone. We are trying to get our funding transferred to Care.

We are off to Rome tomorrow so I'm looking forward to that. Is the meet up still on the 22nd?

keepitgoing Wed 11-Sep-13 12:40:48

Yes it is. Enjoy Rome! Lovely city.

BlindKitty Wed 11-Sep-13 12:41:58

keep yes otd and still bfp (phew) not that I was convinced it would be bfn today or anything called the clinic yesterday and they already booked in my scan for 1st oct grin

cups wow!!!! Rome is amazing! Will you be doing all the sites? Top tip - get your colleseum tickets from the nearby ruins (5 mins walk), I forget what they're called. We walked strait past a humongous queue!!!

Have a lovely time in Rome, you deserve a break x

keepitgoing Wed 11-Sep-13 13:18:07

Great kitty!! Come join the AN thread when you're brave enough smile

Brilliant news Kitty!! thanks

NoCupcakesOrCocktails Wed 11-Sep-13 14:07:16

Well done on getting to OTD Kitty, I'm brooking the scan comes around really quick.

Yeah we are staying right near the colosseum. Thanks for the tip, we have only pre booked our Vatican tickets.

Can someone pm me all the meet up details? I might be able to come. My sisters baby is due then so if he comes by next Friday we might be away visiting at the weekend. If not ill come to the meet up smile

NoCupcakesOrCocktails Wed 11-Sep-13 14:08:53

Sorry I meant to add I'm not on Facebook anymore as I had a meltdown over a smug post about how life isn't worth living without children confused

Cups don't think all the details are finalised as of yet, but will make sure the details get sent when everything's sorted. I'm so gutted i can't make it. But I'll be there in spirit grin

Oh Cups I'm not surprised after that. Facebook really gets in my tits sometimes grin

keepitgoing Wed 11-Sep-13 14:13:34

What a ridiculous thing to say. That person is an unimaginative twat.

I'll brook your sister's baby's a but late then!

Oh Cups what a monumentally stupid thing to post on FB shock I would love love love to visit Rome! Hope you have a fab time. Will pm you.

NoCupcakesOrCocktails Wed 11-Sep-13 14:34:12

Thanks for the message Boo smile

How come your not coming now Maybe?

Keep I'm brooking that he comes in the next few days as we are off all next week so we can go in the week to visit. I don't want him to be late as its going to be a faff getting there when we are back at work. She lives about a 5 hour drive away.

NoCupcakesOrCocktails Wed 11-Sep-13 14:36:19

Oh and that girl ex friend is a complete idiot. I had already unsubscribed to her but another friend idiot liked it so it ended up on my feed. Just what you need to see after a miscarriage. Even before ttc I would have thought it was a smug post.

keepitgoing Wed 11-Sep-13 14:37:17

Ok then, will change what I'm brooking for.
maybe are you not feeling well enough to come?

Also on the brooking for early vibe smile

No Keep I'm just not well enough. Struggling even with juice now. But I will be coming up to see Sparks and Boo when I'm better again, so hopefully see you too?

I've been signed off work Cups as I'm not very well. But I can't wait to hear how it all goes!

keepitgoing Wed 11-Sep-13 15:02:29

Yes that'll be lovely! And hopefully won't be long till you're better anyway x

Exactly Keep. I like your thinking x

NoCupcakesOrCocktails Wed 11-Sep-13 15:31:40

Sorry to hear your feeling so rubbish Maybe but I'm glad Fin is doing well and making his presence known smile

Kitty how are you and MrK feeling? Is it starting to sink in?

GreenOlives Wed 11-Sep-13 16:53:41

Lovely to see you cups! I hope you and DH have a fabulous time in Rome - it's on my list of places I want to visit! smile

BlindKitty Wed 11-Sep-13 19:23:02

cups absolutely not lol! Still in a daze! Another top tip, you can get the bus everywhere so don't bother with taxis. Have a wonderful time and eat lots of gelato!

Guys, I'm starting to wonder whether I'll actually know people at the meet up. Everyone seems to be from the old days of the thread!

BlindKitty Wed 11-Sep-13 19:44:52

keep but scared of the antenatal thread just yet! Think I'll hang around here a little while longer!

Who's going to the meet up them? I can't as it is a family birthday sad

I think I'm near Boo though so if you're coming up here Maybe maybe I could crash that one?

Yay Biscuits!!!! I'd love that x

Me, me I'm going to the meet up <jumps up and down waving> grin

Your near me Biscuits shock where, how did I not know that?? Are you on the FB page? <off to stalk check FB>

keepitgoing Wed 11-Sep-13 21:51:42

I'm going kitty! I'm not from the old days, am I?

Hang on a minute, that makes twice this week I've been called old sad angry wink

You're not old Boo! Just wise wink

Aaw thanks Maybe I think, isn't old/wise the same thing? hmm

No no no Boo. You are a spring chicken in my eyes smile.

<bakes Boo a cake to distract her>

<eyes Maybe suspiciously, takes cake anyway> grin

grin <crazy glint in eye>

BlindKitty Thu 12-Sep-13 07:03:36

keep pm for you

SweetieTime Thu 12-Sep-13 09:14:57

<sticks hand up for meet up>
I will be there and looking forward to meeting everyone in RL bit scared too

Cups hope you enjoy Rome, we went for only a day last year as part of a cruise. It was amazing, very busy, but amazing. BTW I was at Care and obviously can not fault the treatment I had. PM if you have any questions or we can have a chat at the meet up if you can make it. Good luck with the appeal.

Kitty hope the good news is starting to sink in, enjoy it.

Boo I will not have it be said that you are old - let me at ehem, let me at ehem, I will show them.
<sits down all exhausted for shadow boxing on Boos behalf>

Here was me thinking that the thread had gone quiet but you had moved over here blush

<keeps a look out for nurse>

<fans Sweetie and offers a chilled glass of spring water> fabulous display of shadow boxing there grin
Who else is coming? Me, Keep, Sparks, Sweetie, Kitty?? Cups hope you can make it too!!

ThedementedPenguin Thu 12-Sep-13 15:48:39

cups it's great to hear from you again. Oh have a fantastic time in Rome I am very jealous.

I wish I could go to the meet up sad

Hope everyone is keeping well

ScarlettInSpace Thu 12-Sep-13 20:13:11

<sidles in with a glass of wine> brookers I got through to the final round grin someone somewhere actually thinks I'm boss material! Me, an actual boss! Dis shit just got real!!!

Ps, Wowzers kitty well done love xx

Oh and I have written the meet up on the calendar, which means I am coming grin please can someone keep me in the loop as I'm not on the fb group ta!

ScarlettInSpace Thu 12-Sep-13 20:15:43

Pps final round is next month so go back to brooking for diffedness etc til then I'll let you know when the employmentness brooking needs to kick in grin

BlindKitty Thu 12-Sep-13 21:04:41

Thanks scarlett grin

Ok that does make me feel a bit better that a few of you are going! If anyone wants to swap numbers pm me!

Oh Scarlett you clever, clever thing you wine. I'm going to call you Boss from now on!

keepitgoing Thu 12-Sep-13 21:19:44

Oh wow well done Scarlett!!! Will now brook that kitty has unlocked the potential of iui for the brookers smile

BlindKitty Thu 12-Sep-13 22:26:26


Fox82 Fri 13-Sep-13 18:49:32

Loving the scan pic maybe! Hope you start to feel better soon thanks

Thanks lovely Fox x

BlindKitty Sat 14-Sep-13 07:14:20

I can't see maybes scan picture sad I can see several pics of socks and cakes though lol

BlindKitty Sat 14-Sep-13 07:33:02

Doh seen it now!!!! Ahhhhhh smile

grin Kitty!!

keepitgoing Sat 14-Sep-13 09:25:02

I don't see it. sad where in baby Fin?

He's on Facebook Keep!

keepitgoing Sat 14-Sep-13 10:00:02

Ahhh. I am about to cook a big fry up for dh after his night shift, but appear to have eaten breakfast hot x buns already. looks like they were just my starter then!

Hope everyone is well, have a great weekend!

You have to keep your strength up Keep grin

anactualnurse Sat 14-Sep-13 14:16:12

Yo yo yo peeps, am back. I've missed you all. <<lays out some scones and cornish clotted cream>>

AF has just gone (good riddance), so am back in the game for a BFP this cycle.

Still unpacking and trying to find places for all my shit, and mr nurse has been dispatched to ikea for some storage I can't stop long as he's a slave driver, and will kick off if he comes home and I haven't sorted the whole house. Anyhoo, hope you're all well, I haven't read everything I've missed, but congrats kitty cat, and I hope you're doing ok maybs and cups.

Will try and check in later xx

Lovely to have you back Nurse! How was the south west? What did you get up to?

I hope seen as MrN is working you hard that he rewards you with wine and takeaway later. It's only fair right??!!

BlindKitty Sat 14-Sep-13 20:48:31

Thanks nurse grin. Have you settled in ok? X

ThedementedPenguin Sun 15-Sep-13 12:27:26

Hi nurse hope you have had a good break. Have you much left to sort out?

BlindKitty Mon 16-Sep-13 07:58:12

Hi guys, had a little scare yesterday as had some spotting but think its ok now phew!!! If it happens again, may need some serious hand holding!

Kitty, I know it's easier said than done, but try not to worry. Spotting is totally normal. Especially at the stage you are at. I had spotting until last week, and I'm 13 weeks now! It is terrifying everytime it happens though. Here for lots of hand holding. Come and join us on the grads, we will put your kind at rest wink x

Good luck on your first day Nurse!

How is everyone else today?

<leaves an autumnal breakfast buffet to warm the cockles>

Um, Maybe we're very inclusive over on grads, not just for Kitty's kind grinwink

Seriously though Kitty do come over, we will keep you sane hold your hand while your Kitten settles in.

You're very right Boo smile

best fluff up the cushions and lay out a buffet ready for kitty

keepitgoing Mon 16-Sep-13 15:43:33

oh kitty it's so scary when you get spotting, isn't it? But honestly honestly honestly, more people do than don't. There are a billion reasons from it - breakthrough period bleeding, implantation bleeding, cysts, irritation of cervix from sex or dildocams or embryo transfer/IUI, as well as more sinister ones. I had bleeding at 7 weeks, and at 12 weeks, and totally panicked. The advice seems to be if it's light and brown then it's nothing to worry about, but if it's red, heavy, clotty then to seek help. Having said all that I know how it feels. I was always scared to go to the loo for weeks, and given how often i go that made life quite a chore...

great to have nurse back. Give us the low down on living-together-life. When do you start work again?

beedle i think it's not long till your next cycle now, is that right? I am limbering up for lots of dancing.

anactualnurse Mon 16-Sep-13 17:51:44

Hello hello, well, mr nurse and I are defs in the middle of a transitional period. He is coping admirably with my mountains of stuff which is still everywhere, and despite the odd blazing row tiff, we are doing ok.

First day at work today, albeit a day of mostly admin, more of the same the morra, then my first shifts on the wards are on sat & sun. I fear the early starts and hour + daily commute may break me long before the nursing does.

Luckily, I have been so busy I haven't really had time to think about the fact I'm still not preggers.

maybs Cornwall was a washout good. It was nice to be away, but I had lots of things waiting for me coming back which was a distraction. And I'm sure your autumnal brekkie was lush, but unfortunately I missed it - I wolfed down a bowl of museli at about 0612hrs this morning.

Sounds like you're a normal couplt to me Nurse grin. That's good you have a few dys of admin to ease you in. What wards will you be on?

If it makes you feel better, I only managed a bit of yoghurt from the spread wink

Is anyone else bloody freezing?!

Oh, and every time we are down in devon, it's always a wash out grin

BlindKitty Mon 16-Sep-13 18:33:02

Thank you wise brookers! Some reassurance is very much appreciated! I'm feeling loads a bit better about it anyway.

Will warily mooch on down to the grads thread then...even if I'm a bit scared!

BlindKitty Mon 16-Sep-13 20:06:49

Ok so I braved it but I couldn't find it!! Which thread do you go in???

Nurse as I live in Cornwall I can confirm that you had normal weather for this time of year smile

Stacks Tue 17-Sep-13 18:56:28

Would I be welcome back trying to TTC #2? My baby Brooker Thomas is nearly 9 months old now, and old Aunt Flo is here for her first visit.

How exciting Stacks grin

ScarlettInSpace Wed 18-Sep-13 11:21:42

Please can someone send the details for the meet up on Sunday, I'm not on the FB group, ta muchly xx

PM'd you Scarlet smile

keepitgoing Thu 19-Sep-13 10:57:22

ooh stacks that's exciting. You're hoping for a fairly small gap between the two of them then? Did it take you long last time to conceive? Brooking that this is the last time that AF visits for a good long time. Are you back at work already?

Can't wait for the meet up, brookers!

BeedlesPineNeedles Thu 19-Sep-13 11:43:49

Been back from holiday for a week and I thought it was about time I came back to brooking!

kitty Congratulations on your BFP grin sorry about the spotting, it must be so scary but I'm sure its really nothing.

maybe hope you feel better soon

scarlett well done on your job interviews, though I have to say 3 rounds of interviews sounds a bit much

keep you are indeed right about my next attempt being soon, I started downregging this morning. I think it will be 3 weeks again, but I won't get a definite date to start with stims until they call me in a couple of weeks.

Oh and welcome back stacks I have to say I thought gobbelino who was here a few months ago was you so now I have no idea who gobbelino is/was confused

I'm quite excited about trying again but at the same time I'm convinced it won't work

keepitgoing Thu 19-Sep-13 12:13:31

oh beedle this one is your time. I am so excited for you. I really hope the downregging goes well, I don't think you found it too awful last time? But even so I hope that you can stimm asap. Di you have a good holiday?

Do you get a sniffer dog again?

Oh Beedles ow exciting! I'm keeping everything crossed for you. Hope you're feeling refreshed after your holiday x

Hello again Stacks! How are you?

BeedlesPineNeedles Thu 19-Sep-13 13:32:12

Thanks keep yes we had a lovely holiday just laying in the sun, reading, swimming, relaxing and eating lots grin

rubber yes I'm back with the sniffer dog again grin

Thanks maybe are you feeling any better?

Solars Thu 19-Sep-13 13:32:23

I'm brook, brooking all the way for you Beedle

Lovely to see you Stacks and hopefully Musical soon too!

BlindKitty Thu 19-Sep-13 21:48:53

beedles thanks bud! I think I've defo had done good brooking action so I'll be brooking hard back for you smile

BeedlesPineNeedles Fri 20-Sep-13 14:50:11

thanks kitty

the clinic has just rung me to see if we could move EC forward a week (and therefore only DR for 2 weeks) but I checked with MrB and he has a load of meetings that week so I had to turn them down. Its only 1 week so it doesn't really matter, but it does leave me wondering if they're going to be really busy when I'm in (I might be overthinking this a teeny bit grin )

Beedle it's impossible not to over think isn't it smile. You just have to go with the right time for you. I'm so excited for you. Is your protocol the same this time round?

BlindKitty Fri 20-Sep-13 20:32:26

beedles that's rubbish, can dh not rearrange?

NoCupcakesOrCocktails Sat 21-Sep-13 12:15:27

Beedle yay to starting on the sniffer dogs again grin this is going to be your time ok? We are all brooking no arguments for you. It's a shame you can't move the EC forward but don't worry about it. Of course they won't be too busy for you, they've probably offered other couples the chance to move it forward and I'm sure some of them will have been able to do it sooner.

Stacks welcome back! I hope it's a really short stay for you this time as I remember it took a while last time x

Well I'm back from holiday, it was amazing. Rome is so beautiful. I'm shattered though and carrying a bit of extra weight from all the gelato blush I'm also nursing my first hangover of 2013 shock we went out last night with some of my DHs work friends and didn't get in until 04:00. I have so not missed hangovers!

Well I'm able to come to the meet up tomorrow as my sisters baby is showing no signs of coming soon. I must admit I'm in two minds about coming as I'm still a bit of a mess. I'm worried ill have a melt down or something and you'll all think I'm crazy!

keepitgoing Sat 21-Sep-13 13:42:18

Oh cups, do come! Will be so lovely to meet you. Don't worry about any melt downs, we've all been there... So pleased you had good hols, and have a bacon sarnie. Sure fire hangover cure.

NoCupcakesOrCocktails Sat 21-Sep-13 13:56:06

Thanks Keep. I'm having a healthy lunch as I'm on a diet ignore all the wine and McDonald's I had last night I'm really excited about tomorrow now!

ScarlettInSpace Sat 21-Sep-13 20:05:51

hey everyone, just to manage your expectations lol i am out whenthis eve for quiet family dinner which OH & SIL seem to be turning into a night in town on the lash so if i am hanging tomorrow i may not wake up in time shock

hopefully see you all on the other side though!

keepitgoing Sat 21-Sep-13 21:22:26

have fun scarlett...

BlindKitty Sat 21-Sep-13 22:50:14

scarlett please still come though <leaves a pint of water and some paracetamol out for her, and sets her alarm anyway..> wink

BeedlesPineNeedles Sun 22-Sep-13 07:20:45

Have fun today everyone grin
Sometimes I wish I still lived in England, but even if I did the meet-up would be too far away, so I'll just wait until you all come here!

scarlett hope you're not feeling too rough

<sidles in disguised in a black wig, sunglasses and a cape>

<lurks by door>

<decides there's something distinctly fishey about the inspector gadget looky-likey lurking in the shadows>

BeedlesPineNeedles Mon 23-Sep-13 11:09:32

pomme are you thinking of coming back to join us?? (I saw through that disguise immediately grin )

<shuffles feet>

We are wondering whether it might be a suitably bonkers way to end the most f*cked up year we've had yet...

Can't believe my disguise wasn't foolproof grin

So where is every cd wise?

Withalittlesparkle Mon 23-Sep-13 21:54:58

Guess who is back??! blatantly not TTC but back in top brooking form for anyone who needs some support smile

BeedlesPineNeedles Tue 24-Sep-13 07:12:50

Well pomme I can't believe you've not been keeping up, anyone would think you children to look after! But just for you I'll attempt a geek -style round-up:

scarlett dieting when not out on the town in preparation for IUI and hopefully, maybe another attempt at IVF
geek planning for IVF in January
cupcakes appealing to get IVf transferred to another clinic
nurse busy being an actual nurse (or buried under a pile of boxes she should have unpacked by now)
beedle downregging for another 2 weeks or so and then stimming for 2nd round of IVF
hinky, musical & stacks thinking about/actually coming back to join us for their next brooking babies

phew, hope I got that right

BeedlesPineNeedles Tue 24-Sep-13 07:14:40

Oh and lovely to see you sparks it looked like you had fun on Sunday. Was it booby you were holding in the photo on FB?

keepitgoing Tue 24-Sep-13 08:35:22

And fox is here sometimes.

How's downregging going beeds?

BeedlesPineNeedles Tue 24-Sep-13 09:18:00

its going fine thanks keep no obvious side effects. They're going to phone me in a couple of weeks to tell me when to start stimming, which reminds me I really ought to go to the pharmacy and get the rest of my drugs!
How are things with you? Are you missing Thailand now its starting to get a bit colder and wetter? And are you anywhere near ready for Kip's arrival? grin

keepitgoing Tue 24-Sep-13 10:05:19

That's good beedle; pleased you're feeling ok.
I'm fine thank you - kind of strangely still enjoying the cold weather, and opportunity to get wrapped up. But then it's not properly cold yet, is it... I am missing the easily available delicious cheap food from thailand, and the maid (!), more than the weather, that's for sure. We are a little bit ready for Kip though not mentally but hopefully have another 9 weeks or so, but guess you never know. I have another 5.5 weeks of work though, since I'm stopping at 36 weeks.

pomme did you use to be someone else?

Stacks Tue 24-Sep-13 10:07:51

Hello again. I came back to join you all just as life got in the way. We've had a bunch of colds recently and it's hardly even colds season yet. Still, AF left a couple of days ago and we managed to dtd last night second time in about a year, poor mr stacks. Going to try dtd eod and go back to bbt charting - I found it makes me less crazy to chart, as I know when ov happens and when AF will turn up.

So sorry to hear so many of you are having to do IVF. We were threatened with it just as I got pg with T. I'm wishing you all enormous luck with lashings of brooking thrown in for good measure. Particularly thinking of you just now beedle.

Hi pomme fancy seeing you here smile

Waves for everyone else.

I'm feeling all left out with all these old brookers going round again but can't ttc while at college sad

Thanks beedles, it's interesting to see how many IUI/IVF people are here now. Brookers have always been a motley crew with 'ishoos' but there werent any IVF-ers first time round. Fingers and toes crossed for you all.

Keepit - no, have always been plain old pomme.

Can't believe we are ttc no 3. Especially after we had an abortion 3-4 months ago. This year is '13' all right! Anyway, dtd last night (cd 5 so just a warm up) so seems to be really happening...

Glad to see some other second time brookers here too though smile

anactualnurse Tue 24-Sep-13 12:13:47

Hello everyone, so sorry I haven't been around - my head is currently wrecked what with starting my new job and finally living with mr nurse. It's all quite hard work, but am trying to stay positive and persevering.

How was the meet up? Any goss??

I've come to the conclusion I'm probably not going to get preggers any time soon (we're hardly even getting down to it as we're like ships passing in the night and either too exhausted, or too pissed off with eaxh other).Am tetempted to go back on the pill, as at least then I won't get my hopes up and have to deal with the disappointment.

I feel very sorry for myself pretty rotten just now, and think I'd be a terrible mum at the moment even if we did manage to make a baby. I can't even manage to be a good anything at the moment. Anyway, sorry for whingeing. I'm going to take myself off for a sleep, and try to wake up a better version of myself.

BlindKitty Tue 24-Sep-13 12:34:52

Oh dear nurse! Could you afford a holiday? Sounds like you just need a bit of quality time with each other to me! You've had lots of big changes lately so it's not surprising you might feel stressed atm

BeedlesPineNeedles Tue 24-Sep-13 13:34:41

Don't give up hope nurse you've got a new job and a new home, its not surprising is stressful. and just because you're "ttc" it doesn't mean you have to have sex every day week, month I'm sure the others will tell you they've had the odd month with no action (or maybe its just us blush ) it doesn't mean you have to go back to contraception. Have a little break from thinking about it all ( you will still wonder as AF draws near if you might have managed it, I don't know how you stop that). And I'm sure you'll be a wonderful mum smile

Oh Nurse lovely. We have all had moments like that. Sounds like the new job is taking its toll on you. And you have upped sticks and moved. It's all happened at once! It is most definitely a culture shock when you start living together 24/7. But you will fall into a routine. And you learn to ignore them after a while wink. And you will be an amazing mum. Of this I am sure. Hope the power of sleep has worked its magic xxx

hinkyhonk Tue 24-Sep-13 16:41:40


nurse the first year after mr honk and i got married was the worst even though we'd lived together for two years before that. it gets better as you find your groove.

and the mere fact that you are thinking about the type of mum you would be tells us all that you would be a cracking mum. i still think i'm f-ing it up most of the time but my boys still love me and i love them so you'll be just fine when it happens for you

off to go smack a rat on my private smacking run for you all....

<relurks as that sounds very lurid>

anactualnurse Tue 24-Sep-13 16:47:09

Thanks ladies. You are all so kind - how did I ever get through these dark days before I found you (prozac, that's how). I feel a bit better after a nap and a scone, a brownie and 3 bags of crisps. Need to have a good chat with mr nurse, but not sure when we'll get time.

Hope you are all well x

Sugar is the future Nurse. My god, I could eat a scone now. Please say you had clotted cream and jam on it. Was it fruit? Or plain? These are important questions wink x

Sounds like someone is getting their appetite back Maybe? You just eat whatever you want now, send Mr M to the shops!!

Unfortunately, all I've managed is a yoghurt today Boo. But I am obsessed by other peoples food blush. Might crack open a tin of tomato soup though later grin

Don't know if we can endorse that sort of reckless behaviour Maybe grin

Fear not Boo I'm having a glass of nesquik instead wink

Nowt wrong with a nesquik Maybe grin

Fox82 Tue 24-Sep-13 20:31:14

Yes I'm still lurking around!! grin Sorry to not post too often. And sorry to see things are a bit hard at the moment nurse. I think beedles advice was spot on - don't start on the contraception again but give yourself a break from actively "trying" and see what happens. Moving and job changes are stressful times but I'm sure everything will settle down soon enough

I'm feeling a bit down at the moment too. We got an offer accepted on a house for the 4th time at the beginning of the summer, and for the 3rd time the buyer decided not to sell! We've been so unlucky, especially as we're in a great position due to renting at the moment. So the house hunt begins again... Plus I'm fed up in my job but struggling to find anything else. I've been looking for about 6 months now with no luck. And today is the start of cycle 11 ttc sad. Oh well, as D:ream once said, things can only get better! grin

Waves to all the old/new brookers!

Withalittlesparkle Tue 24-Sep-13 23:12:49

Pomme was it really only 3-4 months ago? Are you sure TTC is the right thing to do? I mean has life changed so much that you can consider it? Just wondering if it's something you've really really thought about?

BeedlesPineNeedles Wed 25-Sep-13 06:55:59

Actually, would you mind taking the abortion discussion somewhere else - like the FB group so I don't have to read it. I left the group as I didn't want to read about that kind of stuff whilst dealing with teh failure of my first IVF cycle I'd hate to leave this thread now.

Withalittlesparkle Wed 25-Sep-13 07:16:28

Yes Beedles I think that's a good idea!!

You're quite right Beedle and I know you're not the only one who avoided FB for exactly the same reason sad I'm pro choice, but there is a time and a place to discuss it, and where there are people having ivf/iui or any fertility issue is probably not it!

BeedlesPineNeedles Wed 25-Sep-13 07:18:27

Thanks sparks hope you didn't think I was being rude

Withalittlesparkle Wed 25-Sep-13 07:18:32

Hope no ones taken offence at my questions to Pomme

Withalittlesparkle Wed 25-Sep-13 07:35:57

Not at all Beedles smile

I think it was a question from a very caring person sparkle. It is something we've thought through and life will be changing dramatically in December when we move back to the UK.

I think that ttc and having children is a very hard thing with lots of issues and I think that most people experience at least one of those issues when they come to want to start a family. I think that sadness will help us all grow as people and be better parents. The randomness of life, the unfairness of life and our decisions we make slowly or quickly, regret or never doubt help us learn everyday.

As an athetist thats the best comfort I have, hah smile

ControlGeek Wed 25-Sep-13 08:00:18

beeeeeeedle well done on starting with the sniffer dogs again, you are now on your winning round and it won't be long before they sniff out your bfp. Deffo.

And just adding my voice to beedle and boo's comments that this really isn't the thread to start bandying abortion around like it's a contraception choice. Because, y'know, we're all just so super fertile that we can afford to do that just for the sake of delaying TTC for 2-3 months. Yes, I'm another one who left the FB group because of 'that' discussion.

If brooking is now about fertility issues then I am sorry for bringing my problem to either here or the fb page. I had misunderstood.

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BeedlesPineNeedles Wed 25-Sep-13 08:13:29

Thanks geek how's everything with you?

Yes it did Geek and how dare you describe me in that way.

I would never wish the decision I made on my worst enemy.

And I wouldnt wish this thread on myself anymore.

keepitgoing Wed 25-Sep-13 08:27:15

pomme its not just about fertility issues, but it is about conception. Some people here have been trying for years, so it is very difficult to see someone make a decision (I too am pro choice) but then even harder if they then ttc a few months later.

geek x

It is still not right to describe someone on a thread in this way after the heartbreak 'they' have this summer. That is not the actions of a nice person.

Thank you for reminding me that I dont have to explain anything to anyone and nor should I look to rely on anyone to understand me.

However - on explaining myself if you would like to understand (or even really give a shit outside of how my experience makes you feel the world is unfair) google atonement baby. I am not uncommon or weird.

I wish you all success with conceiving and having sticky ones as soon as possible.

ControlGeek Wed 25-Sep-13 09:18:17

beedle thanks lovely, up and down. I'm caught between wishing my next round could happen tomorrow, and feeling it couldn't be far enough away. While it's still ahead of me, there is still hope iykwim. Once it's been and gone it'll be at least two years before we can afford a private round. Having said that, there were a few tears the other day when the clinic said I might have to postpone stimming until February due to them undergoing a refurb at Christmas confused I will know more in the second week of October. Down regging will start in either November or December (happy crimbo geek have a nice dose of menopause).

pomme I have pm'd you - not for a slanging match, that's the last thing either of us want. Just because I don't think the thread needs this. I hope you will read it, and take it in the spirit it is intended.

Oh Geek lovely. You're lost definitely in limbo land aren't you. I really hope they don't postpone your treatment till Feb. you have no idea how tightly crossed I'm keeping everything for you xxx

Pomme, as Keep said, brooking isn't about infertility, but my god, I couldn't have gone through my treatment without these amaing women. Reading your story massively affected a lot of us. I too am incredibly pro choice, but TTC months after a termination is just hard to understand.

<sweeps buffet into large doggy bag for consumption at a later date>

BeedlesPineNeedles Wed 25-Sep-13 09:46:05

Oh I know what you mean geek though we are very lucky in that if this doesn't work we still have another free go and we could afford to go private after that, if we thought that it might work. Of course that is entirely irrelevant as the next round is going to work for both of us.
It doesn't help that MrB is very stressed at the moment, its mainly other stuff, but the IVF is adding to it. We actually discussed postponing the cycle but he didn't want to.

I think you try to know all before you judge, between my health and living in Italy 6 months to us changes our world completely. But, who cares about details right?

Anyway as I said, ta-rah to brooking on fb and mumsnet. Thanks to all the brookers I have loved 'talking' to over the last 2.5 years.

Thanks geek for the pm, it was appreciated.

I really do hope that you guys get everything you want. I dont agree with transplacing your situations onto mine but I can but imagine the heartache of struggling with fertility. I wish you all the best, stay strong (and know that attacking people like me makes me stronger and you weaker) - dont do it to yourselves. xxxx

Right, this is all getting a bit heated here, I think it is safe to say that given a choice any lady on this thread would give their right arm, leg and anything else to have their BFP, and will fight to the end for it! This being said, let's leave it here now this lovely new thread is the perfect place to put it behind us and get on with what you've all got coming up!

You have to be able to validate that for my situation to be able to say that to me boo.

You would fight for a bfp no matter what, never even considering a termination, even if you thought that pg in the country you were living in with the health issues you have could result in your TWO other LIVING children being left motherless??

But yeah, whatever, poor you lot and bitchy old heartless me.

Generalise away if it makes you feel better. But know that you are wrong.

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hinkyhonk Wed 25-Sep-13 14:39:07

could i request a deep breath from all? pretty please?

i'm fairly sure that there are pertinent medical issues which perhaps all are not aware of.

its worth bearing in mind that we can never truly know what is going on for anyone and particularly on an internet forum.

when discussing such emotive and personal issues could we perhaps try to give everyone the benefit of the doubt and be as circumspect as possible.

love to all dudes and perhaps not get into a bunfight?

hinkyhonk Wed 25-Sep-13 14:41:06

note to self buy a thesaurus - way to many perhaps in there

Brookers new thread because this one has gone a bit awry and way off topic!

blush the link above is to something quite different blush

here is the new thread

Sorry about that!

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runningtostandstill Wed 25-Sep-13 15:55:06

What do you want? Me to apologize for being fertile fertile? SORRY.

Of course not, but I would have thought apologising for having (inadvertantly) upset a whole bunch of people would be a good start.

But you're all right, enough is enough. So best wishes all round.

New thread please everyone move over so we can close this one down.

Solars Wed 25-Sep-13 16:16:11

Wow I never thought I'd come back to the ttc thread and read all this.

I agree wholeheartedly with Hinky. I don't however know what was discussed on the FB group, I missed all of that.

I just feel it's a shame it got to a level where someone felt forced to leave the thread. Mindfulness and giving someone the benefit of doubt especially on an Internet forum can go a long way.

Brooking for you all x

GreenOlives Wed 25-Sep-13 21:06:39

I feel really sad reading this and I agree wholeheartedly with hinky and solars. We can never know what exactly is going on in other people's lives and it is not for us to judge. Brookers are usually an inclusive bunch, offering positivity and support to everyone, lets not change that.

BeedlesPineNeedles Thu 26-Sep-13 07:19:26

Actually I'm shocked that some people think that we have been unfair. I was perfectly welcoming to pomme the other day before she mentioned the abortion and I realised who she was. And even then I only asked that if she wanted to talk about the abortion please do it somewhere else. And if she had never mentioned it I would have assumed that she had decided against it, unfortunately lost the baby and was now ttc again. I think both myself and geek left the FB group before she had made the final decision as it was too much to deal with, coming at the same time as our first unsuccessfull attempts at IVF. But she chose to mention it even after I had done a round up that showed that most of us (who are not coming back for a 2nd brooking baby) are undergoing fertility treatment.

I have nothing against people that get pregnant accidently or as soon as they start trying, and I would never try to deny someone the option of an abortion.

But really can you not see that its a bit insensitive to expect a bunch of women who are mainly going through fertility treatment to understand why someone would have an abortion and then decide, a matter of weeks later, to ttc. And then expect that we would want to celebrate the inevitable BFP a few weeks later.

And whilst I'm sorry some of you feel that we forced her out, tbh if she hadn't had left the thread then I would have.

GreenOlives Thu 26-Sep-13 09:38:50

Beedle I'm sorry you feel like that but we are entitled to our opinions too. I have suffered 3 years of fertility problems and pregnancy losses so I am acutely aware of the pain involved in that process but I still cannot condemn anyone else for the decisions they make regarding their pregnancy. I would surmise that the fact pomme is ttc again so soon is because she is feeling pain and regret about her decision (as she said it's not uncommon) and I just feel very sad that she has been forced out.

Anyhow, I don't want to get into a fight about it, I just felt compelled to say my bit. I really hope that everyone on the thread gets their much longed for babies very soon.

NoCupcakesOrCocktails Thu 26-Sep-13 10:15:55

God I've been away from the thread for a few days, I unfortunately read it all last night before going to bed. I would really rather not have read it. Because I've read it all I feel compelled to comment.

Beedle I think there was absolutely nothing wrong with that comment you made asking for it not to be discussed. I really don't think this is the right place for it. It's just too sensitive a topic when some posters on this thread are going through assisted conception. As you know I'm still recovering from my miscarriage after my IVF cycle. I would not have felt able to stay on the thread if there was going to be repeated references to abortion. My feelings are too raw about my loss to deal with it.

To be honest one of the comments that upset me most was about how so many of us Brookers have "Ishoos" compared to back then. Well I just want to say I was a Brooker back then too. I was there when so many got their BFPs and where lucky enough to move on. My "ishoos" are unexplained, no one can tell me or my DH why we are still trying for our first baby over 3 years later. Should I stop posting here because I still haven't got lucky? Should we all move to the infertility section and take our over sensitive feelings there?

I wish no one had felt compelled to leave and we all could have agreed to disagree. I haven't condemned Pomme and I wouldn't because I don't know any of the details. I am very pro choice and I am sure it was a decision that was not taken lightly.

Olives I understand what your trying to say that it's not our place to judge but surely in what should be a safe and supportive place we should be able to say we don't feel comfortable about a topic. I know you had a long hard journey but can you honestly tell me you would have felt able to discuss abortion so freely after a much wanted loss? If you could then you are a much better person than me.

ScarlettInSpace Thu 26-Sep-13 11:26:04

Wtf? Dear me, I've never seen a deleted comment in a brooking thread, I just read it all with no intention of commenting but I am, so there.

I logged on a couple of days ago to apologise for not turning up on Sunday, as soon as I saw the word abortion in the same sentance as TTC I'm afraid to say I logged off without reading any more, I honestly wasn't sure until ten minutes ago whether or not I would log back on again.

I've just typed out loads of stuff and deleted it, pffffffft.

I'm sorry anyone felt they had to leave but I think beedle was absolutely not being out of order asking, quite politely imo, for that not to be discussed here.

I live in utter fear after all my eggs fertilised with chromosomal abnormalites in the last IVF, that if I ever do get a BFP [which to be honest I'm slowly coming to terms with being less than unlikely] I am expecting to be faced with a really shitty decision when the screening test comes back; just thinking about having to think about it terrifies me [and OH and I are on completely different sides of THAT fence].

No-one questioned anyones right to terminate or asked them to justify their reasons as far as I can see, just asked for a little sensitivity...

Anyway seeing as how boo asked so nicely about ten times & no one was listening, which did make me lol I'll trot off to the new thread and make my apologies for being a pisshead and missing the meet up blush

Thanks Scarlett here's a short cut so you don't get lost grin

Solars Thu 26-Sep-13 14:46:11

I didn't have a problem with you Beedle asking for the topic to be moved elsewhere you had every right to and I think it was the right thing to say and I'm pretty sure Pomme also apologised for bringing the topic up at one point. The issue could have been stopped right there.

What I was quite upset to see were some of the other comments, some of which have been deleted and were quite judging and making assertions on Pommes decision.

I agree Scarlet even after you get a BFP the decisions you may still have to face are extremely difficult and not everyone will agree with them.

Sorry I too felt compelled to respond again but I was quite upset and shocked to read the thread yesterday as the brooking threads have been a great place for me for a number of years and I have always thought them inclusive of everyone and as Olives has said I would hate for that to change.

ControlGeek Thu 26-Sep-13 18:04:14

I wasn't going to post again to this thread, but in light of solar's comments below, and the fact that mine was the first post deleted I feel I have to as otherwise it looks like I started a personal attack on pomme.

To be honest I'm not sure why my post was deleted, it apologised for my previous comment being unduly harsh and said what a lifeline this thread was for me. I believe pomme may have taken a comment about insensitivity to relate to her decision whereas it actually related to bringing the subject onto this thread, but that was cleared up via pm.

Whilst I agree that brookers have always been inclusive, I don't think asking for a particular topic to not be discussed on this thread is unreasonable. What is unreasonable is not letting it die when the majority of people have tried to put it behind them. We have a luffly new thread courtesy of boo and to save her the task of yet another message, I would respectfully ask that this thread be put aside in favour of moving forward in a safe, supportive and brooking-spirited environment.

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