Whether icing, twotting, or in need of a dip in the pity paddling pool, come stroke the friendly orange cave unicorn with us. (Chocolate pretzels are on the house). It's JUST SHAGGING THREAD 17!

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EssieSaysRelax Fri 26-Jul-13 22:14:39

Ladies, Fred title says it all; we are the ones who shag as much as our men can cope with in order to get upduffed without the stress of scientific whatnots!

Fred rules (copied from previous Fred)

1. Thou shalt shag as much as humanly possible in order to get upduffed.
2. Thou shalt not partake of OPKs, temping, or charting.
3. Thou shalt keep symptom spotting to a minimum.
4. Thou shalt share and with your fredmates where needed.

JSing lingo;

ERTD = Evil Red Tide of Dooooooommmmmmm. Or AF to most others.

Pant snot = Egg white cervical mucus.

Doing a kitten = Getting upduffed soon after joining (warning: may induce envy in other posters).

Viroid = This is you, dear poster. This is from the first JS thread when someone tried to type 'ladies' and it autocorrected to 'Viroids' - so there you go!

POAS = Pee On A Stick (of the pregnancy detecting kind, not from a tree). Also known as PIAR (Pee In A Ramekin - cos we're posh birds innit). Or PIATLH (Tea light holder) PIAWG (Wine glass) or anything else you care to pee in!

Shagging like something = JSing like a teenage nymphomaniac.

Giving a hooya = Giving a much needed slap to a fellow poster in danger of slipping into ttc obsession.

Contraband = Of COURSE none of us EVER partake of any silly OPKs or temp charting. They are Contraband.

The link to Part 16 is here

The link to the latest grads thread is here

Happy shagging shaggers!

ChocChaffinch Fri 26-Jul-13 22:19:59

Ha ha. Who knew the unicorn was orange grin

EssieSaysRelax Fri 26-Jul-13 22:23:06

Somewhere a while back I think someone said it was orange!

Should we do roll call now?

Name Essie
Ttc#1 since dec 2012
No DCs


Bearfacedchic Fri 26-Jul-13 22:26:35

Ha ha 'stroke the orange unicorn' sounds like a euphemism! grin

Name: Essie
Ttc#1 since dec 2012
No DCs

Name: Bearfacedchic
Ttc #1 since August 2011
No DCs

Bearfacedchic Fri 26-Jul-13 22:27:59

Good Fred intro Essie!

fifi669 Fri 26-Jul-13 22:28:47

Can't copy on my phone.

Name fifi669
TTC#2 April 2013
DS 05/12/10

<inspects Fred, hangs a few certificates for past BFP, puts a half completed one for myself in a drawer and sits in the TWOT purgatory zone>

EssieSaysRelax Fri 26-Jul-13 22:29:56


ChocChaffinch Fri 26-Jul-13 22:31:09

TWOT sucks major ass

EssieSaysRelax Fri 26-Jul-13 22:33:59

There's a lot of twotters here at the moment, me being one of them, though judging by my slamming headache ertd is on her merry way. Cake for you all. X

fifi669 Fri 26-Jul-13 22:35:13

Oh and congrats choc!

I should be downing vitamins, lying sedately and listening to whale music to try and boost my chances.... But as I'm on a hen tomorrow I'm having a beer and watching Corrie smile

pizzaqueen Fri 26-Jul-13 22:37:25

Checking in but cant copy on my phone will do full post later.
Happy shagging.

EssieSaysRelax Fri 26-Jul-13 22:39:45

Adding Fifi..

Name: Essie
Ttc#1 since dec 2012
No DCs

Name: Bearfacedchic
Ttc #1 since August 2011
No DCs

Name fifi669
TTC#2 April 2013
DS 05/12/10

fifi669 Fri 26-Jul-13 22:43:00

Think I may have pissed someone off..... and then they did a booboo:

PedantMarina block


Aaaarrrggggghhh! Fifi669 is a fucking idiot!

Fri 26-Jul-13 21:11:09

Geh, not sure what else I want to say...

Aaarrrgh again.

EssieSaysRelax Fri 26-Jul-13 22:45:02

Also should have put it in first post, some of the new lingo:

Asking Dr Goofle - another autocorrect, means, to google your ailment/symptom for a definitive answer.

Twot - two week of torture / two week wait.

Icing - ovulating, another one courtesy of autocorrect I think?

Literal phase - luteal phase (soon auto correct is going to mean we have our own secret language!)

EssieSaysRelax Fri 26-Jul-13 22:45:47

Oh no Fifi! What did you do/say!? You can hide here!

fifi669 Fri 26-Jul-13 22:52:17

I haven't a clue really! It has only come up recently.... the only Fred where there has been a bit of a ding dong is the one with international, the I know i'm in for a flaming one. Though the person above hasn't commented in the last few pages when I had a quick look through.

The long and short of it is, after a rubbish sexual encounter, half are calling the man a rapist and the other half (including the OP) are saying it wasn't..... it has got pretty heated. Though as I said I haven't seen this person pop up

EssieSaysRelax Fri 26-Jul-13 22:55:45

Oh yes, I did see that Fred but decided to tip toe back out before I put my welly in it. Oh dear. Sorry you've been blocked though. There's another certificate for the new Fred wall though!

fifi669 Fri 26-Jul-13 22:57:47

Ha ha ha I don't know who she is so it's no loss!

First person blocked on the shiny new Fred

<pins medal to chest>

Redshoes56 Fri 26-Jul-13 22:58:15

I am here! That other fred filled up so fast. Wow.

Name: Essie
Ttc#1 since dec 2012
No DCs

Name: Bearfacedchic
Ttc #1 since August 2011
No DCs

Name fifi669
TTC#2 April 2013
DS 05/12/10

Name: Redshoes56
TTC #1 since May 2012 (I feel like this changes every thread too LOL)
No DCs

Redshoes56 Fri 26-Jul-13 22:58:50

Congratulations on being a bad-ass fifi! grin

coffeewineandchocolate Fri 26-Jul-13 23:01:33

name coffeewineandchocolate
ttc#2 March 2013
ds 2.5

Redshoes56 Fri 26-Jul-13 23:01:45

OK, and CONGRATULATIONS choc! What a great way to close out the last fred! I am sending the best-ever thoughts your way for a healthy pregnancy flowers

Redshoes56 Fri 26-Jul-13 23:02:37

coffee it took me a second to realize you have a two-and-a-half year old and not 2.5 sons. I need to get out of the office, clearly! Long day!

coffeewineandchocolate Fri 26-Jul-13 23:02:54

sorry all for being rubbish. really poorly so not managing to do much and ttc May be on hold for a bit :-(

fifi669 Fri 26-Jul-13 23:03:30

Name: Essie
Ttc#1 since dec 2012
No DCs

Name: Bearfacedchic
Ttc #1 since August 2011
No DCs

Name fifi669
TTC#2 April 2013
DS 05/12/10

Name: Redshoes56
TTC #1 since May 2012 (I feel like this changes every thread too LOL)
No DCs

name coffeewineandchocolate
ttc#2 March 2013
ds 2.5

fifi669 Fri 26-Jul-13 23:04:18

ha ha red you're funny smile

DulcetMoans Fri 26-Jul-13 23:05:21

I was a little lost there for a minute. Phew - found you!

Icing was my autocorrect. My contribution to the fred, since i cant seem to contribute my BFP!

That's a bit off fifi. So not someone you have come across at all? I've been reading the internationallove one. I'm pretty convinced she's not for real. I nearly posting something yesterday (about enthusiastic consent) but then decided not to.

Alohomora Fri 26-Jul-13 23:25:17

Name: Essie
Ttc#1 since dec 2012
No DCs

Name: Bearfacedchic
Ttc #1 since August 2011
No DCs

Name fifi669
TTC#2 April 2013
DS 05/12/10

Name: Redshoes56
TTC #1 since May 2012 (I feel like this changes every thread too LOL)
No DCs

name coffeewineandchocolate
ttc#2 March 2013
ds 2.5

Name: alohomora
TTC #1 July 2013
No DCs

Heeeellloooooo!!!! roars in on an imaginary pink scooter (always wanted a pink scooter!)

Congratulations choc, fantastic news!

I POAS yesterday, don't even know why it's not quite the right time, I don't think. BFN, of course, but my timing sucks. {waits for ERTD}

fifi669 Fri 26-Jul-13 23:29:56

Speaking to DP, we have wondered whether she's just a troll or some kind of social experiment, seeing how people react to controversial topics? Due to her last two bombshells....

A lot of people were commenting, but I haven't seen the message lady in any recent posts ( last 4 pages or so) and the inbox was today.

Maybe she was just a lurker that cocked up and sent the message to me, doh! Oh well, onwards and upwards....

Bearfacedchic Fri 26-Jul-13 23:32:03

Hope you feel vetted doom Coffee.

Fifi- I never knew you could block someone from a Fred! Cripes I wonder what went on <wanders off to have a look>

Bearfacedchic Fri 26-Jul-13 23:33:14

Oh bloody hell- vetted doom=better soon sorry coffee blush

fifi669 Fri 26-Jul-13 23:35:36

bear i'm not blocked from the Fred, just seeing her I think?

Currently opening beer 3 and eating peanut cookie 8..... you've got to while you can eh?

Bearfacedchic Fri 26-Jul-13 23:37:57

I wouldn't worry Fifi- I thought 'she' was a troll in whatever form straight away namely because she didn't sound so dumb, but held and maintained views that are difficult to support unless you only resort to the feminist card which lots of people did to support her plus she hijacked the original thread and now two bombshells? A bit far-fetched for cynical old me. But of course I could be wrong.

Bearfacedchic Fri 26-Jul-13 23:42:18

Oh sorry Fifi- I misunderstood. My mistake. Ah well- no loss really for you! I'm sure you won't miss being talked about like that. I'd drink the beer, eat the cookies and chuckle to your good self.

Nice pink scooter aloho <admires shiny scooter>

fifi669 Fri 26-Jul-13 23:57:59

It was a distraction from TWOT though! Silver linings eh? When is your next appointment?

Nessalina Sat 27-Jul-13 00:06:59

Name: Essie
Ttc#1 since dec 2012
No DCs

Name: Bearfacedchic
Ttc #1 since August 2011
No DCs

Name fifi669
TTC#2 April 2013
DS 05/12/10

Name: Redshoes56
TTC #1 since May 2012 (I feel like this changes every thread too LOL)
No DCs

name coffeewineandchocolate
ttc#2 March 2013
ds 2.5

Name: alohomora
TTC #1 July 2013
No DCs

Name: Nessalina
TTC #1 March 2013
No DCs

Hello viroids! :-)
I've been a bit behind lately, so apologies if I missed big happenings in the last Fred! I did catch Choc's BFP though - yay for you!! :-D
Are we going for another BFP fred record this time round?!

ZingWidge Sat 27-Jul-13 00:08:49

Kids: yes
TTC : nope. I'm secondary mascot after unicorn, carrying pompoms and offering support and sprinkling baby dust

Good title, shiny new thread - good luck viroids!

Bearfacedchic Sat 27-Jul-13 00:14:02

True Fi- I'm just reading the thread now. It's all very odd to me. . . Next appointment will now be in November, but hot several tests and a HSG before then. Joy.

Bearfacedchic Sat 27-Jul-13 00:30:27

Wow - that was heated fifi.

GreatScott1 Sat 27-Jul-13 00:48:34

Hi blush please can I join? I've been lurking meaning to say hi for a while...! DH and i have been TTC no. 1 since December 2012, but starting to find it difficult to steer clear of contraband, as it doesn't seem to be happening sad So thought I'd join in and see if any of the luck from the last JS thread rubs off!?

TTC since dec12

lil1ady Sat 27-Jul-13 00:51:47

Name: Essie
Ttc#1 since dec 2012
No DCs

Name: Bearfacedchic
Ttc #1 since August 2011
No DCs

Name fifi669
TTC#2 April 2013
DS 05/12/10

Name: Redshoes56
TTC #1 since May 2012 (I feel like this changes every thread too LOL)
No DCs

name coffeewineandchocolate
ttc#2 March 2013
ds 2.5

Name lil1ady
Ttc#1 since Nov 12
No dcs (but dh is a child sometimes!)

Redshoes56 Sat 27-Jul-13 00:51:57

Welcome, great!

lil1ady Sat 27-Jul-13 00:52:44

oh looks like I copy/pasted from the wrong place. I suck at this. please forgive my shit phone app!

Redshoes56 Sat 27-Jul-13 00:53:14

It's fun when I run into the late-night crew on here (just got home, time to make dinner here in the States). Anything fun on tap this weekend, viroids?

ZingWidge Sat 27-Jul-13 00:53:50

fifi I read that one as well. it was a spin off from writer's legs in the air.
I hid it ages ago.

just be greatful you didn't read the mucus thread.
it was disturbing. several of us asked for that thread to be deleted and MNHQ agreed.

some people are total weirdos.

I was being attacked quite badly on a thread about loss, so I left.
<covets "blocked" medal>


lil1ady Sat 27-Jul-13 00:58:55

Name: Essie
Ttc#1 since dec 2012
No DCs

Name: Bearfacedchic
Ttc #1 since August 2011
No DCs

Name fifi669
TTC#2 April 2013
DS 05/12/10

Name: Redshoes56
TTC #1 since May 2012 (I feel like this changes every thread too LOL)
No DCs

name coffeewineandchocolate
ttc#2 March 2013
ds 2.5

Name: alohomora
TTC #1 July 2013
No DCs

Name: Nessalina
TTC #1 March 2013
No DCs

Kids: yes
TTC : nope. I'm secondary mascot after unicorn, carrying pompoms and offering support and sprinkling baby dust

Name GreatScott1
TTC since dec12

Name lil1ady
Ttc#1 since Nov 12
No dcs (but dh is a child sometimes!)

lil1ady Sat 27-Jul-13 00:59:49

There. I think that's right. now time for bed!

Bearfacedchic Sat 27-Jul-13 01:03:08

Cripes! It's a bit crazy out there. I don't venture away much as I find if all a bit bizarre and scary. blush <hides behind fifi>

Yes, Red- this is the late night crew chatting across the waves to you! Having said that, I'm just off to sleep. grin have a nice dinner. Hope it's tasty!

Redshoes56 Sat 27-Jul-13 02:46:47

I fixed up some turkey burgers and baked onion rings. And beer, since I'm barren and all. Night ladies, enjoy the weekend!

DulcetMoans Sat 27-Jul-13 08:24:14

Who's going to start us off with a BFP then? I get excited every morning in case there's one waiting for me!

Left washing out and it rained - how's that for Sod's law!!

cookielove Sat 27-Jul-13 08:42:56

Hello all smile

Congratulations on your BFP choc

I cracked I told my mum and sister and brother and I'm telling my dad later today blush

fifi669 Sat 27-Jul-13 09:09:50

zing a thread about mucus you all agreed should be deleted???? I'm intrigued!

Bearfacedchic Sat 27-Jul-13 09:24:22

Sod is really getting around with his saw Dulcet. Hope he swings by my way!

I've got sunburnt shoulders from yesterday. It wasn't even bloody sunny and I'm really careful. Ouchy!

Rockchick1984 Sat 27-Jul-13 10:10:03

Congratulations Choc!!!!! I'm still loitering around here, too scared to fully graduate blush

DulcetMoans Sat 27-Jul-13 10:46:26

Oh bear, le sod only seems to work in non-TTC areas of my life so far. Tested this morning and still BFN so think I am probably just awaiting AF now. Was last chance to get preggers before wedding too. Stupid womb!

EssieSaysRelax Sat 27-Jul-13 11:04:46

Morning viroids!

Still no ertd here, v annoying. Can't even be arsed to piar anymore cos I know I'm barren. Still, went horse riding this morning and galloped about like a teenager without having to worry about falling off.

Sil is coming to stay tonight so looking forward to that as we get on really well.

cookie I'd have cracked and told a few close people too.

red I've never had turkey burgers! Sounds good!

No other news. It's going to rain later, that'll feel weird!

Bon weekend lovely shaggers.

DulcetMoans Sat 27-Jul-13 14:11:00

With gorgeous nephew, two and a half. He is such a good reason to want a baby. He's so great!

Redshoes56 Sat 27-Jul-13 14:39:39

Hooray for nephew fun, dulcet. We have friends coming over tonight with their two relatively well-behaved, very sweet kids, so I am looking forward to that.

This is the worst TWOT ever since I am flummoxed by my cycle and have no idea when ERTD is due. Maybe three days? DH was grabbing my boobs this morning and poking my stomach and essentially doing all the symptom spotting for me. (I feel normal, he's the one who's not normal!)

I got a confirmation letter from the reproductive medicine place, with very thorough instructions on how to get my forms in order, etc. The last paragraph is about their policy on children in the waiting room -- namely, kids are not allowed because "we are sensitive to the many emotions of infertility." I have to say, that makes a lot of sense. So far I am liking their attention to those kinds of details.

frogchops Sat 27-Jul-13 15:31:39

Had to come and mark a place being as the last thread was exciting and full of bfps. I just read rock's post and thought 'yes I'm scared to graduate too' but then I realised I've been scared to graduate for 32 weeks and should probably man up and move on just go.

Bearfacedchic Sat 27-Jul-13 15:43:27

That all sounds very sensible and promising Red.

You're always welcome back Frog! Wow- 32 weeks already? Where has that gone?

Bearfacedchic Sat 27-Jul-13 15:58:27

Well, looks like I'm out for this month. Again. Just thought I had some cm and went to the loo but turns out I am bleeding instead mid-cycle. I've had it before so I'm guessing it's anovulatory bleeding. sad Why don't I work like I'm supposed to?

Bearfacedchic Sat 27-Jul-13 15:59:14

Oh and it's started raining.

EssieSaysRelax Sat 27-Jul-13 16:02:23

Oh bear. I'm sorry, how crap. <squeezes bear's paw> xxx

Bearfacedchic Sat 27-Jul-13 16:16:16

Thanks Essie.

Although I've just looked it up again for the zillionth time and it does also say it can mean ovulation too, or one of a million other things. confused So basically no one knows conclusively.

Bearfacedchic Sat 27-Jul-13 16:19:32

Off to read my book and indulge myself in a cry.

EssieSaysRelax Sat 27-Jul-13 18:03:28

flowers for you.

Though I have heard that some women can experience spotting or bleeding when icing too. have you used contraband?

ChocChaffinch Sat 27-Jul-13 19:57:06

thanks bear

cookielove Sat 27-Jul-13 20:35:56

Bear urgh I just don't know what to say. I'm so cross at stoopid af she is the devil. Big squeeeeezy hug sent to you! !

Erm so I went to tell my dad today and he just gave me a huge hug. I hugged him and then pulled away looked at my mum and said 'you told him?' And she said yes she was to excited to keep quiet grin

Alohomora Sat 27-Jul-13 21:39:09

Aww, Bear, I'm sorry - bodies are stupid things.

I survived work but haven't been useful for much afterwards. OH tried to initiate dtd this morning (he says he just wanted a cuddle but there was nudity and stealth poking) and all I wanted was just one more hour of sleep before getting up for work. I get an F for effort, clearly.

ChocChaffinch Sat 27-Jul-13 21:51:55

so sweet cookie :-) it's fun telling folk.

frogchops Sat 27-Jul-13 21:59:30

F for effort but that really made me laugh!

lil1ady Sat 27-Jul-13 22:16:51

bear as an optimistic voice....could the timing fit for implantation?

How much poking around did they do on Thursday? could be linked to that and not your cycle? Have a hug,biscuit ,thanks from me.

cookie it must have been lovely telling your family. I don't plan to tell anyone when I get my bfo except dh of course! but I imagine that will go out the window when I get there. my mum will probably guess.

I'm doing quite well at not symptom spotting but 2 things have struck me as odd. on Thursday I was working at a clients office and a really strong smell of garlic cooking came in the window. it made me feel quite sick but I normally love garlic. then today we had dominos for tea and the herb dip and cheese dough balls garlic oil tasted off to me. again very odd and normally what I enjoy in a dominos. I have no expectation that it means anything other than I'm losing my mind. in fact I'm so convinced its not happened this cycle I was drinking wine and eating brie yesterday. funny how we can't ignore this TTC lark even when we don't feel it could be possible.

lil1ady Sat 27-Jul-13 22:18:41

aloho if I woke to nudity and poking with intent id wonder who I was in bed with. dh really only does want a cuddle in the mornings! sooo with u on the extra sleep though!

Alohomora Sat 27-Jul-13 23:23:27

I think spooning with intent on 5 hours of sleep should be a crime punishable by no less than 3 footrubs and breakfast in bed brew.

ZingWidge Sat 27-Jul-13 23:24:26


I knew I was pg before tests showed PFB with some of them as our normal tap water suddenly tasted like burnt tyre smell and red peppers tasted how motor oil smells.

and the most bizarre one was whenni cooked some soup, left the kitchen for half an hour, went back to kitchen, smell made me feel so sick I puked into the kitchen sink!

that was that, I just knew it and was later proven right!

so fx.when are you POAS?

ZingWidge Sat 27-Jul-13 23:27:56


I knew I was pg before tests showed BFP with some of them when our normal tap water suddenly tasted like burnt tyre smell and red peppers tasted how motor oil smells!

and the most bizarre one was whenni cooked some soup, left the kitchen for half an hour, went back to kitchen, smell made me feel so sick I puked into the kitchen sink!

that was that, I just knew it and was later proven right!

so fx.when are you POAS?

ZingWidge Sat 27-Jul-13 23:37:07

oops sorry for double posting!

lil1ady Sun 28-Jul-13 00:42:00

zing burnt tyres and motor oil - yuck! ertd due next Friday or Saturday so not peeing on anything until Sunday. I really don't believe it could be atm tho. I think my mind has pulled out some self defends mechanism. I feel completely resigned to this monthly dance we all do!

Nessalina Sun 28-Jul-13 01:29:06

Sorry to hear things aren't going to plan Bear - fx for a positive outcome!
It really is raining too - monsoon style in Yorkshire! Just got in from driving back from a friends house & my right shoulder is soaked because my car window leaks! hmm Pah.
I think if I ever get a BFP I will just tell my 2 best pals til 4!months. I know it'll be really hard, but my mum won't want to know unless it's a pretty sure thing. She tried for 4 years TTC me and had 2 quite late MCs (3 months & 3.5 months) before being on bed rest when she got upduffed with me, so I don't think any old BFP would be solid enough for her to get excited about. I get a lot of 'I don't wanna hear about it' vibes from her even just with us trying. I told myself not to get too hung up on TTC in case the same happens to me, but I think I've already mega failed there confused
Finally got round to reading the SMEP plan and realised why it's a Fred no go with it's naughty contrabandy ways but reckon its worth a go this month!

Redshoes56 Sun 28-Jul-13 05:03:39

Sorry bear flowers sad I started spotting today so I am feeling down too. DH looked so sad. We have to stay positive. But after a good cry. Sometimes they are necessary.

ZingWidge Sun 28-Jul-13 07:17:13

so sorry bearthanks

EssieSaysRelax Sun 28-Jul-13 08:42:49

Sorry red . Squeezey hugs for you too. Xx

Bearfacedchic Sun 28-Jul-13 10:42:26

Sorry red. It's shitty isn't it? thanks

Thanks for all your good wishes.

I just wish they had done blood tests for this cycle. Next cycle it will probably go back to normal and then I won't ever know what really happened.

I bought two dresses and booked myself onto a French course yesterday to cheer myself up. I may have no money left by the end of this Ttc lark, whenever that will be!

DownstairsMixUp Sun 28-Jul-13 10:44:08

Congrats choc

I think I'm out this month ladies! It's 7 days past ovulation, I wiped a little and had some blood. :'(

How is everyone as i've been away?!

DownstairsMixUp Sun 28-Jul-13 10:45:21

Ooh and the roll call

name: downstairsmixup
ttc number 2 since july 2013
already have one lo aged 4

coffeewineandchocolate Sun 28-Jul-13 11:01:18

congrats to all the bfp's! I've been lurking in the thread for a few weeks but think we will have to take a break from ttc until I have some tests to find out why I'm so ill (nausea, wooziness, tiredness and palpitations). Got to have blood tests and an ecg :-(. I'm hoping its a virus but don't want to risk pregnancy incase it is heart/ thyroid etc related.

I will still lurk if that's ok and return ready to js asap :-)

Bearfacedchic Sun 28-Jul-13 11:03:04

That sounds like it could be implantation Downstairs, although I don't mean to get your hopes up too much either! confused I think mine is too early for implantation.

cookielove Sun 28-Jul-13 11:12:48

Hello all smile

Off to Wagamama's today, which is the best food ever!!

And of course its just another worry, who knew pregnant women shouldn't eat bean sprouts!! confused There is so much off limits now, i need a little pocket note book to carry round all the with a list of all the things i can't eat any more smile

Coffee hope your ok, and you find an answer!! flowers

Bear oooh a French course, your brave i failed miserably at French at school, that does remind me though to get back in my courses learning sign language. Thats the second language i am slowly learning.

Hello Newbies <waves manically>

I am loosing all brain power, one of my friends picked up a chest of drawers when i went outside, i said lets put it in the oven, meant car, and some horses and dogs went past, looked over at the dogs, which were huskies/wolf like and said that an unusual looking horse!!

Bearfacedchic Sun 28-Jul-13 11:13:20

Errr, so now I appear to be icing so says contraband so confusing!

lil1ady Sun 28-Jul-13 11:16:33

bear what CD are you on?

downstairs 7dpo is def implantation time so fx.

red thanks

I'm off to my mums for bacon and egg sarnies for lunch. lovely grin

DownstairsMixUp Sun 28-Jul-13 11:26:26

Bear you can get positive opks if your pregnant... ;-)

Cookie have a fab meal! Wagamamas is bloody lovely!

Lillady really? Ive wiped since but nothing... i wont test tho as reading about ib it sounds as if u dont get a positive for another few days... lets hope its not early af tho!

Minion Sun 28-Jul-13 11:37:11

Hi viroids!
Back from my last Cuba longhaul yay, but have left my phone on there boo.
Lost all me pics and numbers. Grrr. Also thought I was insured as I've had the insurance since 2005, but no, some incompetent fuckwit at O2 cancelled it without telling me. I was not a happy minion I tell thee.
So now I'm resigned to a tiny phone till April, then I can have an all singing, all dancing extravaganza of a moby.
Nice new Fred, fredders!

choc huge congratulations to you both, great news and bear I'm crossing, fingers, toes, legs, arms and eyes for you that this icing spike is of the oop duffage variety.

Ending the twot here. Supposed to see the ERTD arrive in all her misery, today. Nowt as yet, but I got that EWCM a day late so tomorrow is d-day I reckon.

But for the first time since coming off the pill, I have no PMS except tender nips!
No cramps, no spots, no backache, nothing, nada, zip! I'm very very happy, even if I have bawled my eyes out the last week.

Right, I'm being lazy and am still ensconced in my duvet so shall disentangle myself and face the grey skies.
Thank goodness for lazy Sunday fumbles!


EssieSaysRelax Sun 28-Jul-13 11:53:17

minion I've got no pms this cycle either, absolutely nothing, and now I'm late too and officially on my longest cycle now, tested this am and bfn though. Most irritating.

bear are you going to pee on a stick of the legal variety?

cookie enjoy wagas, what's the issue with bean sprouts!?

coffee sorry to hear you haven't been well sad when will you have some tests?

Hi to everyone else too, hope you are all having a good weekend. Xx

coffeewineandchocolate Sun 28-Jul-13 11:58:41

thanks all. blood tests are on this and ecg I have to book next week.Just awaiting call back from nhs direct after passing out coming out of the shooter this morning and coming round with the dog licking me frantically. thinking I may have to call the in laws as worried about looking after ds alone when dh is working...

fifi669 Sun 28-Jul-13 12:26:23

coffee you poor thing that sounds rubbish! Hope they get to the bottom of it soon

bear fingers crossed this is all building up to your BFP and you can tell the fertility docs you won't be needing their services!

I'm not well today totally self inflicted, hen party was good and our club had s club 7! actually s club 2, only Bradley and Paul

Bearfacedchic Sun 28-Jul-13 12:42:22

Aww Cookie- that's lovely.

Managed to squeeze some shaggedy in just to cover all bases. What a roller coaster this is!

Bearfacedchic Sun 28-Jul-13 12:54:08

Coffee- how awful! I hope you find out what it us so you can fix it soon.

Welcome back minion!

Enjoy Wagamamas Cookie! How yum! Going to try to convince DH to go for quaffee and cake this pm.

I'm on cd 18 so could be implantation I guess? But probably isn't if I got 'signs' that I'm icing. There's also the BFP scenario but I think it's too early for that even. Such a mystery. Feel like Sherlock Holmes trying to figure this out!

Refoca Sun 28-Jul-13 13:48:20

Hello all! May I join you?

Not quite ttc yet, but when we start I reckon this might be a better approach than all those things you sensibly call contraband...so can I get to know you now, get a bit excited about the whole prospect?

Ttc soonish
1 DS aged 4

EssieSaysRelax Sun 28-Jul-13 13:48:55

Oh coffee you poor thing, how horrible. Glad you are able to get tests done soon and hopefully they'll be able to give you some answers soon and get you on the mend. Take care of yourself. Xx

fifi were they actually performing?!

bear I'm on coffee and cake mission this pm too. Enjoy yours!

EssieSaysRelax Sun 28-Jul-13 13:56:32

Hi refoca, welcome!

DulcetMoans Sun 28-Jul-13 15:42:00

Aw it's got a little bit down in here today. Hope everyone has had a treat to cheer them up.

Never been to wagamamas, what am I missing??

Welcome refoca. JSing is the best way. To start with anyway! Lol. Doesn't last long until you'll drive yourself crazy though...

Knicker watch here. AF due tomorrow...

GreatScott1 Sun 28-Jul-13 15:49:47

Hi refoca I'm a newbie too smile

Hope everyone is having a lovely weekend?

Well I'm definately out this month sad (although already knew it was coming if im honest) This one has been a weird cycle! I'm usually really regular - 28days, this month on cd30 I started spotting, spotted for a week shock and now have full blown ERTD!

DH has taken it badly this month sad we r 24 and 25, dtd 3/4 times a week, we are healthy, don't drink much, he keeps asking me what we are doing wrong?

Who knew it would be this hard!?

EssieSaysRelax Sun 28-Jul-13 16:07:09

Oh great sorry you are out. It is hard. Ttc is certainly the toughest thing DH and I have coped with together and neither of us expected it to be difficult.

I'm having a screwed up cycle too. Think I might go to dr actually. Keep getting a weird fairly mild, but definite pain, in a very precise area low down but in the middle, like a stabby sort of pain for a min or so, then it goes again. Not the usual general crampy ache of ertd and not ov pain cos its not in the right place. Had it a few days, combined with ertd now 4 days late when I thought my cycles had really setted down. Am almost certain I ovved on cd18, and now on cd34. Several bfns and zero pms which is unusual.

Sorry I haven't really lightened the mood either. Did get my cake though. I had marbled rice crispy cake and DH had carrot cake. grin

Alohomora Sun 28-Jul-13 16:27:50

We're at Dobbie's for tea and scones and retail therapy & there's a 4th birthday party in the corner, and half the moms are pregnant to boot! Bah.

pizzaqueen Sun 28-Jul-13 17:18:41

Hi everyone, finally getting a chance to check in, not managed to read the whole threat yet though. I was away for a night for DPs birthday. Had a lovely time just two of us, but feel more tired than before we left.

We've dtd 5 days in row now!! I don't have the heart to tell DP it probably won't make a baby though as I don't think i'm ov/icing just now. He's been trying so hard bless him. Also don't want to put him off by telling him we don't need to do it everyday. Also been having spotting on and off for the last 3/4 days since af finished confused. Not sure if I should call the doc he isn't the most approachable guy. But the jsing is fun in itself.

Name: Essie
Ttc#1 since dec 2012
No DCs

Name: Bearfacedchic
Ttc #1 since August 2011
No DCs

Name fifi669
TTC#2 April 2013
DS 05/12/10

Name: Redshoes56
TTC #1 since May 2012 (I feel like this changes every thread too LOL)
No DCs

name coffeewineandchocolate
ttc#2 March 2013
ds 2.5

Name: alohomora
TTC #1 July 2013
No DCs

Name: Nessalina
TTC #1 March 2013
No DCs

Kids: yes
TTC : nope. I'm secondary mascot after unicorn, carrying pompoms and offering support and sprinkling baby dust

Name GreatScott1
TTC since dec12

Name lil1ady
Ttc#1 since Nov 12
No dcs (but dh is a child sometimes!)

Name pizzaqueen
TTC #2 since Feb 13 (miscarriage June 13)
DS 2.5

Redshoes56 Sun 28-Jul-13 17:32:50

Pizza, good for you on all the JSing! I don't think we've had sex that many days in a row since we were first dating.

ERTD imminent but definitely feeling better today. Staying focused on upcoming appointment. Off to brunch with some girlfriends then driving up to the Boston area for work for two days, so I may be shit at checking on the fred until I am back Tuesday night. Everyone stay positive smile!

fifi669 Sun 28-Jul-13 18:19:04

essie it was glorified karaoke really! Ashton from JLS was in another club too.

DownstairsMixUp Sun 28-Jul-13 18:55:06

Hmm.. the bleeding has stopped now :/ arghh i hate this waiting!

Minion Sun 28-Jul-13 19:11:42

Jetlag brain has struck again. Due n Tomoz, not today. So not Officially late as yet.
But after two naps today and a bout of nausea coupled with windy pops recon she'll be right on time.
Poop stick$!

DulcetMoans Sun 28-Jul-13 19:30:00

I'm due tomorrow too minion but hope has dwindled the closer I got. Guess we will both find out tomorrow.

Sounds like lots of people had lovely weekends though!

DownstairsMixUp Sun 28-Jul-13 19:51:49

Dulcet are you usually quite regular? Will you be testing tomorrow then if your due date is today for af? If so, good luck!

pizzaqueen you never know smile I'm sure your dh has appreciated the 5 days in a row of BDing! :D Don't think I am yet to meet a man to complain about that! Do you have any idea when you last ovulated??

Can anyone PLEASE send me the strength to not test till at least saturday??? I've read loads about implantation bleeds (thanks girls!!) and everyone seems to say it needs a good few days to pick up the hormone on a HPT!

ChocChaffinch Sun 28-Jul-13 20:22:50

keep the faith ttc-ers. thanks it will happen.

ZingWidge Sun 28-Jul-13 20:55:57

BabyZing is15 month old. she crawled to me and sat down next to me.
I was about to say quick prayer, asking that you all might be granted your wishes and be able to have a baby.

After showing her how, I asked her to put her hands together and she did! for the first time ever!
and so we prayed. and when I said "Amen" she looked at me and grinned.smile

I can do no better than that.♡

Fox82 Sun 28-Jul-13 21:02:10

Awwww zing that is soooooo sweet grin

EssieSaysRelax Sun 28-Jul-13 21:38:23

Aww zing that's so sweet. Thank you. I can just imagine a cute little baby zing clapping her little hands together. <3 grin

DownstairsMixUp Sun 28-Jul-13 22:15:27

Aww zing that's lovely :-)

EssieSaysRelax Sun 28-Jul-13 22:30:58

And now I also have side boob pain hmm

AuntieMaggie Sun 28-Jul-13 22:34:01

I had what I thought was ewcm on monday and then on friday some light bleeding (the day after my ovulation pain stopped) and again today. My cycle is unpredictable but I thought it was longer than 3 or 4 days between them confused

how do I know when to poas?

lil1ady Sun 28-Jul-13 22:36:03

ah zing and babyzing that is soooo sweet. now we have real "baby" dust to help us with babyzing on the case grin

downstairs fx it is implantation for you. if it turns out it us I will have qns!

pizza shock 5 days! r u energizer bunnies?! I'm in awe!

sorry to those with ertd/ertd symptoms...but for those who only have the symptoms Ur not out yet so fx!

DownstairsMixUp Sun 28-Jul-13 22:36:43

auntie if your thinking it's implantation bleeding, I've read at least 7 days after the bleed should be enough to get a + HPT. I had a slight bleed today which has now stopped, and ovulated 22nd of july so won't test till the end of this week at least.

DownstairsMixUp Sun 28-Jul-13 22:37:53

Thanks lil1ady i'm trying to hold out to test till late next week as everywhere seems to say you won't get a + till a week after it!

Bearfacedchic Sun 28-Jul-13 23:01:40

Ah Zing- thank you. That's so sweet. I hope someone's listening. thanks

Yep, if it's implantation you need to wait a while, at least 7 days, until you get a positive. Apparently the hormone will only be at levels that can be detected by then. Got everything crossed for you!

I'm getting some weird feelings in the nether regions. Not pain, but just what I can only describe as movement! It's probably just wind though . . .

Nessalina Sun 28-Jul-13 23:53:12

Aww Zing that's so darn cute! grin All prayers gratefully received!
Sounds like loads of you have some very positive symptoms, really hope our first Fred BFP is on the way!
Don't think I'll be getting my cape on tonite, waaay too sleepy, how lame is that?!

Alohomora Mon 29-Jul-13 00:01:30

I don't know, I have three apps to help me figure stuff out and they give me different predictions - not that helpful!

pizza, respect! I'm not sure we could keep that up!

downstairs, stay away from those pee sticks, you're not to go near them yet!

I am sore in the nethers and can't figure out whether it's ERTD or just overuse.

I just got a text from my mom, my cousin had her baby boy! Next cousin is due in about 2-3 weeks or so.

Bearfacedchic Mon 29-Jul-13 00:04:08

It is nearly midnight though Nessa so don't really blame you! So set the alarm and get up early instead. Don't forget now!

I've been getting ewcm with spotting the last few hours. Gah- come on body; make your mind up! <Note seriousness denoted by semi-colon usage>

Hopefully tomorrow will be a better one for us all and even better for those already content!

Bearfacedchic Mon 29-Jul-13 00:04:43

Oh no - past midnight by the time I posted!

Bearfacedchic Mon 29-Jul-13 00:07:34

Oh yes and sorry to you Great. thanks

And hello Refoca- welcome to the madness!

Bearfacedchic Mon 29-Jul-13 01:03:25

Okay- just been researching into the small hours and I'm pretty sure now that my bleeding was icing. (Ovulation for any newbies!) I've got other signs like ewcm and positive contraband so it must be. Really hoping so anyway! Phew. Exhausted now. Night night.

cookielove Mon 29-Jul-13 07:30:41

Glad to hear it bear

Morning all smile

DownstairsMixUp Mon 29-Jul-13 08:03:48

Good to hear bear you best get busy ;-)

Thanks alomohora and good morning to you cookie!

I have just woken and upon wiping, sorry if tmi, a teeny bit more brown stained discharge. 8 dpo so pretty sure this could be af??? Booo.. sad

pizzaqueen Mon 29-Jul-13 08:31:06

downstairs I have no idea when I last ovulated. because of the miscarriage my cycle will still be messed up. Let's see if anyone can help me make sense of it:

6th HCG levels still up at 132
9th scan showed very tiny piece of 'product' remaining
13th negative pg test smile
16th started spotting which turned into full blown AF a couple of days later and it lasted a week

been spotting on and off since af went (teeny tiny bit).

There's a big chance I didn't even ovulate amongst those dates but if I did I'd guess between 10th and 16th...but no idea what that means for this cycle

So confusing!hmm

EssieSaysRelax Mon 29-Jul-13 09:11:24

Bear, good news, hope you didn't stay up too late so that you are too tired for jsing!

downstairs could that be implantation? (I don't know much anything about the subject so I'm just speculating?)

pizza, were you fairly regular before mc? Hope your cycle settles down soon.

STILL no ertd here. Now 4 days late. Weird thing is though, I am pretty sure I iced 18 days ago and previous couple of cycles my literal phase was bang on 14 days. So something weird is going on. BFN again this morning though. Confused.com

DulcetMoans Mon 29-Jul-13 09:24:32

God, we've all got to the important bits at the same time! Icing or testing all round!

I'm due today, tested this morning and BFN. I am usually quite regular (someone asked that below) so shouldn't be too long a wait if I am out. Although was like 6 days late last month so who knows!!

DownstairsMixUp Mon 29-Jul-13 09:27:25

pizza I'd say your body is still just trying to settle back into it's normal pattern. I had a very early miscarriage earlier in the year and I had weird symptoms like that for well over a month. Even now my periods aren't "settled" as such, the cycle varies from 28 - 40 days and my periods can't decide whether they are heavy, light etc! But I defintely have ovulated since, maybe you should have some contraband near by as I think they help after M/C for comfort for yourself really, to see your getting back to normal business. Hope you're ok. X

essie I thought it could be that but then woke up this morning and yet more so thinking it's just the starting of AF. I'm trying not to be upset as it's my first cycle trying so I'd be a spoiled little witch if i whined too much! Just willing it go sod off now so I can BD on the next cycle smile I don't want to put your hopes up lots but if you iced 18 days ago, there's still a chance your pregnant? With my first LO i didn't get a positive pregnancy test till 20 days past ovulation. So fingers crossed for you!

AQuarkTooFar Mon 29-Jul-13 09:30:12

Name: Essie
Ttc#1 since dec 2012
No DCs

Name: Bearfacedchic
Ttc #1 since August 2011
No DCs

Name fifi669
TTC#2 April 2013
DS 05/12/10

Name: Redshoes56
TTC #1 since May 2012 (I feel like this changes every thread too LOL)
No DCs

name coffeewineandchocolate
ttc#2 March 2013
ds 2.5

Name: alohomora
TTC #1 July 2013
No DCs

Name: Nessalina
TTC #1 March 2013
No DCs

Kids: yes
TTC : nope. I'm secondary mascot after unicorn, carrying pompoms and offering support and sprinkling baby dust

Name GreatScott1
TTC since dec12

Name lil1ady
Ttc#1 since Nov 12
No dcs (but dh is a child sometimes!)

Name pizzaqueen
TTC #2 since Feb 13 (miscarriage June 13)
DS 2.5

Name: AQuarkTooFar
TTC: #1 Nov 2012

Alohomora Mon 29-Jul-13 09:32:17

bear, that sounds promising, you'll have a sleep deprived week ahead of you!

downstairs I came off Cerazette in March and my cycles are still quite doolally, you're right it is so tricky
to know when you're ovulating! In the first month I tried contraband but didn't get any decent results and the thought oh sod it. I do have the usual of symptoms, twinge left ovary and lots of fantasies about shagging Cardassians. (Wot?)

AQuarkTooFar Mon 29-Jul-13 09:32:20

Morning all! Sorry I am so late in to this thread but I like what you have done with the place.

Hi to the newbies and flowers to everyone felling a bit down or confused at the moment.

Not much to report here, mid cycle ish, dtd eod is going well.

EssieSaysRelax Mon 29-Jul-13 09:34:07

So annoying when the two weeks of torture become three! or four!

Hi quark! <waves>

EssieSaysRelax Mon 29-Jul-13 09:35:17

Yes Aloho, Cardassians.... wot?

AQuarkTooFar Mon 29-Jul-13 09:36:40

Oh Essie two cycles ago I was 10 days late! So annoying! Why do our bodies mess with our head so much?

I think its often like a watched pot never boils.......

<not helpful>

DownstairsMixUp Mon 29-Jul-13 09:42:35

Hi quack

Aloho Cerrazette was awful for me, really messed my cycles up, think I non stop spotted the whole three months I was on it! But yeah your right, I think most pills totally mess with your cycle, I won't go back on them if I ever do fall pregnant ever again!

essie Yep. I have all my fingers crossed for you though! It's a horrible wait. I was kinda upset at the so called IB turning into a AF at first but i'm kinda like oh well, the TWOT is over now! At least thats one positive! ;-)

EssieSaysRelax Mon 29-Jul-13 10:06:12

downstairs I hope you are right. I'm not going to test again until the end of the week. Trying to put it all to the back of my mind! Slight problem is that on Weds I have a hospital check up following the abnormal smears and treatment I have had in the past, but its meant to be done post ERTD which I would have been if my body wasn't complicated! ARGH! Going to phone them today and ask them what to do.

quark, yes, I do feel a bit like I am scaring my body by obsessing over it so it's got stage fright!

AuntieMaggie Mon 29-Jul-13 10:06:29

I have no idea what implantation bleeding is (I didn't know about ewcm til you ladies told me) I was thinking it was probably my period although a very light short one. My cycle has always been erratic and I came off the pill last month so I have no idea when anything should be happening... perhaps I need a biology lesson!

DownstairsMixUp Mon 29-Jul-13 10:14:14

essie def don't test till the end of the week, you'll more than likely just get false negatives and end up feeling more poo!

auntiemaggie implantation bleeding doesn't happen for all women but it's when the egg burrows in the lining and a small amount of blood can come away. Apparentely it's meant to be very light brown or pink in colour and doesn't last for more than like 2 days i think i read.

fifi669 Mon 29-Jul-13 10:16:25

AF not due til Sunday but still did a test this morning.... Obviously BFN. When's the earliest you can actually test?

PrincessKitKat Mon 29-Jul-13 10:28:20

Hi all
I was on the previous thread but didn't contribute much, just lurking - how many BFPs?! smile

No DCs
TTC since May

Been a crazy symptom spotting fool for this TWOT - im sure its all in my head. I think I've even convinced myself into uncomfortable boob pain, but will be POAS at the end of the week of AF hasn't shown up.
Anyone fancy a synchronised wee? It might stop me wasting a stick testing too early!

DownstairsMixUp Mon 29-Jul-13 10:36:33

fifi i think it's four days before AF is due with those first response tests.

hi PrincessKitKat

Alohomora Mon 29-Jul-13 10:53:26

essie every time I ovulate I turn into a randy cow with a head full if sexual fantasies. Sadly they're not about my DH but about all kinds if fictional characters I've fancied since my teens - am a bit if a geek, hence this month the Cardassians. I don't even get to pick!

I spotted the first three moths in Cerazette but then had no periods at all while in it. Didn't have much sex drive either, and put in weight, but was otherwise fine. Have a history of depression so I'm glad it didn't trigger anything there. Had a pill break last year and cycle was 30 days on the dot so really annoyed it's so all over the place this time whn it actually matters!

Bearfacedchic Mon 29-Jul-13 11:19:23

Aloho- Who are the Cardassians? More explanation please.

hmm Essie- all sounds rather spish to me. I think a BFP could be on it's way to you. <checks delivery schedule> yes, hopefully it's on its way. smile

Fifi- you can get a BFP as early as 12dpo. If you dr Goofle clear blue pregnancy test positives how soon after ovulation or something like that it gives you a chart to show how many people got a BFP on which dpo.

Hi Quark- was wondering how you are?

Hi all other Twotters, shaggers and lurkers.

fifi669 Mon 29-Jul-13 11:22:11

aloho cardassains as in Star Trek?

DulcetMoans Mon 29-Jul-13 11:51:35

Haha. Here's me googling 'life size captain Picard' and come in here to find you discussing cardassians!

Alohomora Mon 29-Jul-13 12:32:34

blush yep, Star Trek! My hormones have decided scales are sexy this month, I don't know why!

Though a life-sized Captain Picard wouldn't come amiss, either...

pizzaqueen Mon 29-Jul-13 12:48:00

Hello newbies kitkat and others i might have missed.

essie before my mc i had the implant for two years and no regular cycle on that (spotted or bled lamost constantly for two years - awful!). Then i only had one full cycle before getting pregnant, it was 40 days though...

fifi669 Mon 29-Jul-13 12:52:57

Picard? Really? I'd more more inclined to have a bit of Riker myself smile

Curly86 Mon 29-Jul-13 13:04:02

Hi ladies can I join?

Am TTC have gone mad with bad banned contranban items and no BFP so have decided to JS every other day and see what happens, have no idea about ovulation dates as CM and OPK contradicted themselves! Grrr fed up of weeing in a tub and dipping all manor of sticks in it!

DownstairsMixUp Mon 29-Jul-13 13:12:06

Hi curly Welcome smile

Right everybody, any advice for me? Does anyone have any knowledge about this lutuel phase thingy? (aka the bit from ovulation to your next period) since AF has made her very UNWELCOME visit, I've cottoned onto the fact mine is very short. (I ovulated 7 days ago and AF started arriving yesterday and now I'm on) Anyone think it's worth a trip to the doctors or to wait out next cycle and see if it does the same thing?

Curly86 Mon 29-Jul-13 13:16:34

Don't know a lot and maybe wrong but I you have a short luteal phase sometimes the lining can breakdown before proper implantation causing a chemical pregnancy?? Might be worth a trip to the quacks as think they can give you something maybe progesterone to help? But not sure

DownstairsMixUp Mon 29-Jul-13 13:23:21

Thanks curly i think I'll wait for AF to finish then go and see the GP, I'm guesing I'll have blood tests etc but def very strange, I had a very strong positive on an OPK 22nd of July to say i was ovulating, and the day after but alas AF is here! All very odd this ttcing business! smile

Minion Mon 29-Jul-13 13:33:29

Hola chicas.
How's everybody on this thundery Monday? I've just returned for the 3 hour meeting with the mortgage advisor. It's officially happening and I am bricking it!
Oooerr, all this talk about life insurance really puts the willies up me (sounds a bit rude but hey).
In other news still no PMS coming which is odd and I'm pretty sure I'm due on tomoz, even though a day late according to the app. But this morning, early like every time ERTD shows her face, I woke up with a (tmi) weird warmish feeling in me fanjo. I'm now worried I'm coming down with a water infection. Gah. I didn't even DTD loads this month so I know I'm not pg but this would just be my luck to get cystitis.
And last night I dreamt me and my sister went to boots and did matching tests and my turned to + straight away..
Baby on the brain or what!

EssieSaysRelax Mon 29-Jul-13 13:45:04

It is all ultra confusing and I have not got my head around my cycle at all either. Just when I think I know what its doing then my body throws in another weird one. Like now!

Welcome Curly!

Downstairs, from what I understand your literal phase should be the same each cycle. However, mine has been 14 days ish for the last few cycles when I've used contraband a bit to try and suss things out, but this cycle, if the contraband is correct, I am now 18-19 dpo, so either that theory is cobblers (probably) or I am up the duff (probably not as my sculpture of bfns if taking shape nicely). So frankly, I don't have a clue! Probably won't do any harm to see your GP if its worrying you though.

Bear Thanks for assigning the next delivery to me! Hope it doesn't get lost in the post! I've only been doing internet cheapie pee sticks as thats all I've got. Bfns on those, but ERTD still absent, along with all pmt, so I'd be shocked if she made an appearance now tbh. A few days ago I had a few cramps and a headache (and a thousand spots - NOT exaggerating - I look a fright), but then that all went away and now nothing. Should I splash out on a digital test, I thought the cheap sticks were as sensitive as the rest?

I've left a message with the colposcopy clinic to see if I should postpone my appointment on Weds too. Wanted to get that out the way too. Boo.

Wish someone would invent an iphone app that could just unravel all this and tell me what the feck is going on!

EssieSaysRelax Mon 29-Jul-13 13:47:49

Ohhh Minion - we got our mortgage insurance from legal and general a few weeks ago and got £50 of free M&S vouchers - they might still have that promo on. Great that its all happening on the house! Yay for you. Very exciting.

Hope your dream is in fact a premonition. grin

Bearfacedchic Mon 29-Jul-13 13:49:09

Just a quickie for downstairs - there's a thread called the short luteal phase gang who might be able to help a bit more.

Bearfacedchic Mon 29-Jul-13 13:52:17

Essie- I don't know why exactly but people on here seem to say that ICs are more sensitive than digis, but I can't tell you why. Sorry! I'd test, but then seeing a bfn doesn't upset me as much as waiting. But that's just me.

EssieSaysRelax Mon 29-Jul-13 13:59:38

I don't want to fork out on an expensive test if there is no point. Think I'll stick to testing with cheapies every couple of days for now and see what occurs. I was under the impression the cheapies were the most sensitive too.

DownstairsMixUp Mon 29-Jul-13 15:05:14

Thanks bear I'm going to have a look now smile

ChocChaffinch Mon 29-Jul-13 15:47:07

*aloho^ was a bit shock that you were fantasizing about the Kardashians!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DulcetMoans Mon 29-Jul-13 16:17:12

I know the cheapies are meant to be the best but I still can't help my mind thinking 'have I got time to get to SuperDrug and get a first response?'

I have a question, whilst we are talking about literal phases! If you have a short one (think mine is 10 days) then when should you test? Cos the day AF is due might not actually be long enough for it to show on test, if that makes sense. Ie. I am 10dpo (in theory) but today AF is due so testing is bound to be BFN anyway, isn't it? Not that it stops me..,

DownstairsMixUp Mon 29-Jul-13 16:49:08

dulcet I don't know if this helps you at all but if what i have is indeed a short lutuel phase, then with my first LO, I did not test positive untill 20DPO!

Minion Mon 29-Jul-13 16:55:36

Ertd is on her ugly way.
I can feel it.
But on the plus side I hope it means I hardly get any PMS symptoms before she arrives... (wishful thinking)

DownstairsMixUp Mon 29-Jul-13 17:50:41

Big glass of wine to Minion Af has also arrived for me so you're not alone!

Minion Mon 29-Jul-13 18:29:02

down thanks for the vino, gulp gulp

Curly86 Mon 29-Jul-13 18:33:53

Ok ladies im confused; so if my last cycle was 50 days and I'm now on CD24 CM says I ovulated 14 days ago, stoopid OPK says I haven't ovulated and logic says ovulation should be in approx 12 days, what is with the twinge I keep getting in my uterus!! I hate my body! I agree with Essie there should be an app to say do it now for BFP!

Have decided that maybe I should just resolve myself to being childless and have more cats :-/

EssieSaysRelax Mon 29-Jul-13 18:38:53

I'd do the more cats thing too curly, only my current cat is evil and tries to deck all other cats! .. He is cute though if you are not feline.

I think ertd might be coming. Got cramps in the last hour and that dull ache like my trousers are too tight except they're not. sad

EssieSaysRelax Mon 29-Jul-13 18:40:20

I tried to do a smiley cat but it just turned out as two full stops. Also the drama crown as gone! <wails dramatically>

Curly86 Mon 29-Jul-13 18:46:40

At least my 3 cats don't look disappointed when I get a BFN secretly I think they do voodoo when I'm asleep as they don't like the idea of not being the babies anymore!

I think I may have sum messed up cycle this month and my twinning is actually ERTD on her way :-/

ChocChaffinch Mon 29-Jul-13 19:07:59

so who is yet to test? good luck viroids,

f x f x f x f x f x f x f x f x f x f x f x f x f x f x f x f x f x f

Alohomora Mon 29-Jul-13 19:17:50

I do, but I don't think it's going to amount to anything.

Had AF 1st of July, dtd 9th, 10th, 15th 17th and 23rd. Waiting for ERTD (should start on the 6th of August).

That's what the stupid app says. BUT I think I had an unusually long cycle last month due to wedding stress, travel and illness, so goodness knows when I actually OVed.

DownstairsMixUp Mon 29-Jul-13 19:22:47

Good luck alohomora! I wonder who will have the first BFP on this thread?!

DulcetMoans Mon 29-Jul-13 19:48:52

Thanks downstairs, it's nice to still have hope either way. 20dpo is late!!

Good luck alhomora, did you get married last month? Mine is next month, a little nervous!

ChocChaffinch Mon 29-Jul-13 19:59:58

wow dulcet you gettin' hitched!

DownstairsMixUp Mon 29-Jul-13 20:13:15

Yeah it was quite late dulcet i remember i had an implantation bleed on the 14th of december 2008 and had a positive test not till the 23rd of december 2008 smile Good luck with your upcoming nuptials!

Alohomora Mon 29-Jul-13 20:20:19

dulcet, good luck with it all!

We had a small casual registrar ceremony here in Feb and then a big free ceremony/blessing over in Germany, meant everyone could come (lots of elderly relatives). The 'big' wedding last month was a blast, there were some hilarious mishaps but it was a perfect day! Just relax, have fun and be prepared for things to not be perfect and people to be somewhat stupid and you'll be ready to face it all!

cookielove Mon 29-Jul-13 20:31:36

Evening all. Sounds like some bfp's are due soon smile

Urgh my boobs hurt!!

clareyfarey Mon 29-Jul-13 20:35:35

Hello ladies, mind if I join in?

Been TTC since beginning of the year....now trying not to be mental about it all and let it run my life......... hmm

TTC Jan 2013

Last ERTD was 1st July, had a holiday 12th July where we DTD every day (oooh err missus!!) apparently ov'd on 16th.....and AF due tomorrow.

Trying. Not. To. Be. Mental


ChocChaffinch Mon 29-Jul-13 20:38:49

cookie when are you due?

cookielove Mon 29-Jul-13 20:38:59

Probably cause I am stoopidly excited I posted by bfp's on my profile grin

cookielove Mon 29-Jul-13 20:39:34

choc 4th April 2014

ChocChaffinch Mon 29-Jul-13 20:39:44

wooooh! clareyfairy that sounds v exciting! fx'd for you.

clareyfarey Mon 29-Jul-13 20:46:11

Trying not to be, OH is saying to chill the Jeff out about it. Wishing it could be a few days later...... I have a test upstairs but trying v v v hard to resist using it til I'm at LEAST 3 days late. Cycles been between 28 and 31 days so not sure .....


Good luck to anyone else testing this week!

grin Xx

ChocChaffinch Mon 29-Jul-13 20:50:04

Im carrying my wee stick (a capped one) in my handbag!! join the april 2014 thread in antenatal clubs, cookie, Im due 5/5 but will be having a cs 7 days before = 28/4 roughly

ChocChaffinch Mon 29-Jul-13 20:50:43

cookie --- you're due 4/4/14 ! magnificent work grin

DulcetMoans Mon 29-Jul-13 21:22:37

Thanks all, and great advice!

Welcome clarey, you're doing well to not test!!

clareyfarey Mon 29-Jul-13 21:27:18

Thanks dulcet 7 cycles of trying have taught me later the better!

Had a few weird long cycles, then some short ones after coming off the pill in Jan so hopefully it will settle down soon.

Fingers crossed all that JSing was worth it, poor OH looks like he needs another holiday!


Curly86 Mon 29-Jul-13 21:43:11

Lol clareyfarey I'm sure my OH pretended to be asleep the other night, bless them, he did mention we havent had this much since we first met then quickly backed it up with a "not that I'm complaining" and a strange macho grin hmm

EssieSaysRelax Mon 29-Jul-13 22:16:06

I'm out. Ertd is here. Fecking crap body.

ZingWidge Mon 29-Jul-13 22:26:59

<hugs Essie >

sorry sweets thanks

Alohomora Mon 29-Jul-13 22:28:07

Ah, essie, crap. Have some booze wine, rest the cape for a couple of days.

fifi669 Mon 29-Jul-13 22:49:54

Dull ache.... Feeling particularly sensitive.... The witch is coming....damn her

EssieSaysRelax Mon 29-Jul-13 22:51:39

Cape in the recycling, I'm fashioning a new one with built in sound system so we can listen to the boob (because you can get upduffed through your ears you know, it's happened on this very fred).

Welcome clarey hope you like it here.

Good luck dulcet for your wedding! I'd love to do it all again, with dh of course! grin

Bearfacedchic Mon 29-Jul-13 23:39:49

Sorry Essie. Majorly crap. Bloody bodies. thanks I think your new cape needs The Button too. I mean, the whizzing, flashing upduffed button.

Hello Clarey- all sounds very promising. Will lurk over your shoulder.

Bearfacedchic Mon 29-Jul-13 23:59:25

Exciting Dulcet! Although I think I already knew as you mentioned it when you first joined. Hurrah anyhoo! I love a good wedding!

Bearfacedchic Tue 30-Jul-13 00:00:21

Oh and the foxes here are clearly icing as all I can hear is them shagging!

Minion Tue 30-Jul-13 06:41:25

Why the frickity frick I'm awake at this ungodly is beyond me!
Still no ERTD, thought for sure she was arrive quick sticks but the dull rumble has effed off so I'm once again left in limbo.
Tis TTC lark is really starting to piss me off tbh. Am I, arent I.. Just HOW do those jezza Kyle types get fertilised just as soon as looking at a snaggle toothed skank?
How? How?
I can see my passengers on this afternoons flight are in for a happy ride!

lil1ady Tue 30-Jul-13 07:36:55

wow I missed a lot yesterday!

Hi to newbies, wine for ertds.

what did stand out to me was essies comment about the iPhone app....essie maybe the problem is u have an iPhone grin sorry, I just don't get the iPhone craze

I'm still yet to test at the end of this week/wait for AF but am so convinced its a no go this month I was on the vino last night.

fx for everyone else waiting to test/waiting for testing to turn to late bfps!

Curly86 Tue 30-Jul-13 07:45:33

I've convinced myself after 2 months of nothing and then 3 50 day cycles that this month just maybe my body may have returned to normal a 28 day cycle as I think I ovulated early which means AF should be due Friday? Have symptom spotted and think I should test at the weekend

Anyone else had really long cycles after the implant and pill?

DownstairsMixUp Tue 30-Jul-13 08:07:00

Essie I'm sorry about ERTD making an appearance, mine has also come on full flow today sad Let's have a vodka and be miserable together!

minion i often ask myself the same thing! They seem to pop 'em out left right and centre on jezza kyle and obviously it only took "that one time" VERY frustrating isn't it?!

lillady hope you get your BFP! I'm deffo out so i wanna see a BFP on this thread from somebody by the end of the week to lift my spirits!

curly my cycle was just all over the shot after I come off one of the pills that i'd been on. One minute it was a long cycle, then a short, took around 6 months to settle down!

I can confirm the ERTD has arrived full flow now, the spotting was just the start of it sadly, and not an implantation bleed (wishful thinking!) bit concerning though as I said I know i ovulated on the 22nd of july so that means i have a super short luteal phase, awaiting her to piss off so i can see if this happens again on the next cycle then i guess its off to the doctor i go. Sigh.

pizzaqueen Tue 30-Jul-13 08:16:02

curly I had a 40 day cycle after coming off the implant but then I got pg in the cycle after that but reckon I oved cd23 in that cycle. the baby didn't stick though. try not to worry probably your cycles just settling down, frustrating to hear but most of us have been there, just keep shagging wink

I woke up feeling very nauseous this morning but can't possibly be upduffed yet so just feeling woosy for no apparent reason. although it's passed now on my way to work.

Curly86 Tue 30-Jul-13 08:17:18

downstairs sorry to hear that, I suggest a huge vodka some pâté and trampolining; as hopefully all 3 will soon be off limits to you! This is month 7 so I'm hoping its settled down this month; it sucks!

DownstairsMixUp Tue 30-Jul-13 08:34:15

Thanks curly was a bit upset earlier, our bodies are cruel playing tricks on us! And yes i know, the pill is horrible, I def won't be going back on it ever again!

EssieSaysRelax Tue 30-Jul-13 08:51:20

haha! lil, but you see I don't have an iPhone! I have some knackered old sony thing. But if they invented the upduff alarm app for the iPhone then I would race out and buy one! I don't really get the iPhone craze, but I do get why apple products are so great as I have an (ancient) apple computer at home and its soooooooo much better than dh's brand new pc.

downstairs, sorry she's got you too. Vodka binge sounds fab, I'm there.

Minion, you make me laugh. Snaggle toothed skank! Ha! But I agree, howcome they are all super fertile? Maybe its something to do with shagging a different skank every day/night.

curly, I'm now on cycle 9, and only in the last 3 cycles do mine appear to be forming some sort of pattern-ish.

I can't scroll back to the previous page so sorry for those I've missed - hope everyone has a good day. xxx

EssieSaysRelax Tue 30-Jul-13 08:52:55

curly sorry should have said, on cycle 9 after coming off the pill.

Bearfacedchic Tue 30-Jul-13 09:07:25

Sorry Essie and Downstairs. thanks and wine to you both.

'Snaggle toothed skank' made me laugh! It could also be that they are aged between 16 and 21 so are super fertile- grrrr. But yes, I think frequency of snaggle sex and willing skanks is key as Essie said. Annoying though!

DownstairsMixUp Tue 30-Jul-13 09:18:18

I have a telephone consultation with gp in twenty mins. Will post later and let you know how it goes.x

EssieSaysRelax Tue 30-Jul-13 09:27:40

Good luck downstairs, hope the phone consult is helpful.

Thanks bear, I did enjoy some a bit too much wine last night.

I just phoned the foof clinic ahead of tomorrows colp appointment and they said they still want to see me even though ertd is here. Gross. Hope its with Dr Bowtie. Really hate someone shining a torch up there and with ertd around as well it really grosses me out! Sorry for tmi.

Minion Tue 30-Jul-13 09:41:29

Do you think it's because they drink woodpecker and smoke?
Mayhaps we've been doing it wrong gals? Listening to the Boob and popping frolic acid like its cocaine at London fashion week?.?

Ive only got Zinfandel and incense in (bloody hippy) and I cant quaff booze before a flight, no matter what The Sun says!

DulcetMoans Tue 30-Jul-13 09:55:14

Oh minion, I hear you! I know it's wrong and those ladies getting pregnant in no way affects my fertility but I have a relation with 7 kids. 7! And I can't help but think that's unfair sometimes.

Pizza- the thought of going to work quite often makes me feel sick! Lol

Good luck with the call downstairs, hope you get some answers!

Minion Tue 30-Jul-13 10:14:43

I think I'm dragging out the pity party pool ladies.
Roll up. We've got pretzels of the chocolate and German variety, beers of international renown and the diet coke man is rocking up at various intervals.
Also set up on the trestle table is the squidgiest pâté, the smelliest slab of Brie, lashings of champagne cocktails and a whole host of cured meats from the Catalan.
Farking ERTD... Just hurry up will you.

EssieSaysRelax Tue 30-Jul-13 10:25:48

I'll whip up a tasty treat with coffee, peanut butter, dippy eggs, prawns and bean sprouts then Minion! See you there! Shall we have the water ultra hot as well since thats another upduff no-no?

EssieSaysRelax Tue 30-Jul-13 10:26:17

I need to hire a car on Sat and can't find the frigging paper counterpart bit of my license!

Minion Tue 30-Jul-13 10:34:30

Woah woah woah!
Are you telling me peanut butter is a no go item?
That's just not cricket.
This kid better be worth it haha, I love me a pb & j sarnie.

EssieSaysRelax Tue 30-Jul-13 10:47:22

Apparently peanuts are out due to risk of allergy, I think it sounds like cobblers. Pb & j - bleurgh!

ZingWidge Tue 30-Jul-13 10:50:48

minion I like peanut butter, ham and cucumber sandwiches. yum

Minion Tue 30-Jul-13 10:51:58

Ooh no, it ranks right up there with a chicken super noodle sammich too!
I hope I crave those and not something wank like ice or petrol fumes.

Bearfacedchic Tue 30-Jul-13 10:58:27

Good luck Downstairs.

Off on my holibobs today so see you all when I get back. Will still be lurking though.

Hello shaggers!
I missed some of the BFPs on the last Fred, but congrats all round - let's hope this Fred is as lucky for you all.
Still lurking. Obvs. 17wks and I can't leave you lot behind!
Peanut butter is now fine, btw - peanut allergy thing no longer a thing.
You could swap the pb for rare steaks - they are out. More's the pity.

EssieSaysRelax Tue 30-Jul-13 13:29:01

We could have peanut butter smothered rare steaks? Not weird compared with some of the things you lot eat!!!! Glad to hear the peanut thing is off now, always thought that was a load of crap!
Good to see you humpty! Hope you are keeping well? x

(found my driving license now - PHEW!)

Alohomora Tue 30-Jul-13 14:55:36

Cum, PB & Jelly sammich! Even better is Ob & Banana. I have EWCM, think AF is due tomorrow, so may join you in the banquet!

Alohomora Tue 30-Jul-13 14:56:28

Yum! I meant to type Yum!

Had the German spellchecker in from sending a text to
my Mom, wtf?!

DownstairsMixUp Tue 30-Jul-13 15:57:59

essie thanks for the good luck wishes! I hate all the poking round in your bits when your pregnant to, I still my birth all too vividly, having 20 people stare at you with your legs in stirrups, not my finest hour!

Minion that must be it! Maybe we should all meet up in parks or something late at night to discuss our fertility over white lightning and see where it gets us!

Regarding peanuts I ate them when I was pregnant with lo number one blush i had a raging craving for pistachios and he seems ok. blush

Have a nice holiday bear thank you for the good luck! smile

Phone call wasn't all exciting! I explained the situation how this and last cycle have ovulated and then less than 8 days after I've had AF arrive, he did say it was unusual, he seemed quite impressed at my knowledge of what might be wrong blush have to go for a blood test tomorrow (got to pick up the blood test form in the morning then off the the local hosp) then he wants me to book an appt in about a week to look at the results and go from there. I'm glad he took me seriously though, i had a lot of hormone related issues after my last lo and i've always wondered if that's in any way mucked me about to!

Anyway, I'm off to have a lovely dinner of spag bol tonight and a beer, the evil witch isn't playing nice this month!

clareyfarey Tue 30-Jul-13 16:18:58

How is everyone? Hope that horrible witch AF hasn't ruined anyone's day.

I am due today. No cramps, just a weird very slight ache. Or is there? Or am I just being mental?

Not sure if to test, or face yet more disappointment at BFN tomorrow.

This is such pants!

Sozzers for the mini rant grin


frogchops Tue 30-Jul-13 18:26:17

I'm sure I read it here but if not I apologise for this random info!

You can buy flipz in tesco ;) saw them with my own eyes!

DulcetMoans Tue 30-Jul-13 18:58:56

You did read it here frog. Flipz - yay!

Glad dr took you seriously downstairs, an understanding doctor goes a long way to helping I think. My dr is a bit dismissive. Only seen her four times over five years but she always makes me feel silly!

DownstairsMixUp Tue 30-Jul-13 19:24:03

Yumyum, i know what i'll be treating myself to this weekend, thanks frogchops!

Yes dulcet my last doctor was a bit of a moron, had no time to listen and just seemed to dish out penicillin for anything to get rid of you! Hopefully i get some answers soon!

pizzaqueen Tue 30-Jul-13 19:36:17

my doctor is a complete moron. I must change doctors soon, is it easy to do?

when my ds was ten months old he was very poorly and covered in a rash so I took him to docs (as you do) he looked at him and said dismissively 'yes its measles, cant do anything for it, take him home and wait for it to get better' we were in his room three mins!! fair enough he can't do anythings for it but no advice on what to do if it gets worse etc. scared first time parents, measles can be very serious.

but a few weeks ago really took the biscuit, two days post miscarriage I went to ask for a letter for work and he said 'why are you bothering me with this the hospital should have given you one' sad and sighed and wrote me a sick line and said to ho the hospital with any preg issues not him.

so I really don't want to go to him again especially anything ttc related I just don't think it'll be taken seriously.

Curly86 Tue 30-Jul-13 19:38:21

dulcet I know what you mean about relation with 7 kids, my SIL is now pregnant with baby no 5! She pops them out willy nilly every 18months :-/ however have made myself feel better by convincing myself they will only end up on a Channel 4 documentary!

The 19 yr old girl at work also has now flaunted her fertility today by announcing she's pregnant accidentally while on the pill :-( which was followed up by everyone else in the office saying oh and we thought it woul be you next!

Therefore I am joining the pity party with a LARGE glass of wine and a box of coco pops! And I'm not even using a bowl just a spoon in the box

clareyfarey Tue 30-Jul-13 19:50:51

My next door neighbour is 27, and is expecting number 5! She seems to sneeze and get up the spout.

A close friend of mine had a baby last Sunday, and she had no idea she was pregnant, until she went to hospital with stomach cramps!


DownstairsMixUp Tue 30-Jul-13 19:54:27

pizzaqueen Your doctor sounds like my old one! It is easy to change, have you still got your NHS card? If not ask the receptionist for your NHS number and go to your new doctors, fill out a form and it's done. That's how i changed anyway. When i had my first appt at my new docs they didn't have my new notes yet but wasn't too much of a hardship really. You usually get a letter in the post listing your new GP's details after you've done it.

curly GR the ones that just "oopsy fell pregnant on the pill" make me a green eyed monster! I know it is not their fault but it is really annoying! Oh i've been pigging out on crap all day. Felt sorry for myself so had a chocolate croissant and coffee for breakfast, spag bol for tea with a eclair after and been snacking on chocolate. Pity party for one!!

pizzaqueen Tue 30-Jul-13 20:16:05

thanks downstairs I will change gp. he's not that old, late thirties maybe, just an insensitive arse.

and I was one of those annoying 'oops pregnant on the pill' people with ds. I was 21 and in my final year of uniblush only saving grace was I'd been with dp for nearly 5 years. but second time round its not been such an easy road for us. now we have the mortgage, job, cars, degree and living sensible lives it's not happening quite so easily.hmm funny think our reproductive systems!

Curly86 Tue 30-Jul-13 20:19:29

downstairs I had the greeneyed monster BIG time and then felt guilty as I heard myself wishing her baby to be really ugly! However it won't be because she's gorgeous and I can already tell she will be back in her size 6 jeans hours after giving birth envy

clareyfarey my SIL has already vowed to keep going until she gets a girl! How greedy!

frogchops Tue 30-Jul-13 20:22:26

Flipz are in the 'world food' bit wink
New girl at work said today tht she didn't find out she was upduffe til 32 weeks. I'm 32 weeks and massive and puffy and moany.... How the hell she did that I'll never know!

ChocChaffinch Tue 30-Jul-13 20:23:55

yy peanuts now OK

the UK realised that avoiding peanuts during pg = loads babies with peanut intolerance

then they looked at many European countries, ie Turkey, where pregnant mums eat peanuts and very few babies have a peanut allergy

so now they say no rare steak? is medium rare OK?

Curly86 Tue 30-Jul-13 20:25:09

pizza it's just luck of the draw I guess I'm pleased for her and oops pregnant on the pill is not bad at all she's been with her partner ages too so guess its meant to be when it happens like that :-)

Alohomora Tue 30-Jul-13 22:09:34

curly Do you pour the wine over the Coco Pops? BTW, statistically you're more likely to continue having boys after no. 3 so she might end up with a football team and still no girls!

Oooh, didn't know you could get Flipz in the UK! Sometimes the Polish isles has things that I miss from German supermarkets, though.

When my mom was being induced with me she was put on the ward and given pate for dinner. Didn't get to enjoy it for long, labour started with a vengeance when all the moms on the ward got their babies for the evening feed (it came all back up).

fifi669 Tue 30-Jul-13 22:50:28

choc you can't have medium rare either. Everything has to be properly cooked, no runny yolks etc. pretty sure it's been that way for donkeys

Alohomora Tue 30-Jul-13 23:14:29

Oh, and I'm pretty sure you can ask to be tested for listeria, and if you have antibodies you are free to enjoy rare steak and blue cheese for as long and as much as you want.

Good blog on the subject

Nessalina Wed 31-Jul-13 00:59:37

Hello you lot smile Bad luck on the ERTD arriving Essie & Downstairs - sorry if I missed others, just did a quick scan!
I'm having husband-related rage - it's the most fertile point of the month and he 'just doesn't feel like it tonite'. confused Well, quite frankly, that's not flippin' good enough!! I think this may be karma for using contraband... Honestly, I pee on this stupid little sticks twice a day for a week, but a positive's no good without the addition of sperm is it?! goes to throw the OPKs down the toilet and get back to just shagging hmm

DulcetMoans Wed 31-Jul-13 07:36:34

Oh nessa, think we have all been there. Sometimes even with tears! I try tell myself I need happy sperms so he needs to be happy but it doesn't really work. I don't want to do it all the time either but we have to in order to get what we want!

Most of that side of my family belong on a channel 4 documentary curly, or Jeremy Kyle! They obviously got all the fertility though!

Still waiting here... Two days late...

lil1ady Wed 31-Jul-13 07:58:36

not due ertd til Saturday but caved and piapc this morning. BFN sad

cookielove Wed 31-Jul-13 07:59:38

dulcet when you testing?

DownstairsMixUp Wed 31-Jul-13 08:11:10

Nessalina That's quite funny and don't worry we have all been there! Last month i just knew I was ovulating, you know the signs, EWCM etc etc and he just rejected my advances! So annoying! Maybe bribe him with something else for it?! grin

DulcetMoans When are you going to test? It should show up by now if you're late surely?

lillady Sorry about your BFN :-( But while AF is still not around there is still every chance!

Choc I'm not entirely sure re: the steak thing. I'm going to sound terrible as I did have medium steak out a few times when I was preggno with lo number 1 blush i never went near eggs though or liver as i heard both were really bad during pregnancy!

I'm not sure what's going on with my AF at the mo, i've either had a short period (happens sometimes) or it's going to do that evil thing where I think I'm done and i feel a trickle when i'm out somewhere blush damn thing go away for good so i can start BDING!

Curly86 Wed 31-Jul-13 08:18:01

aloho can't poor the wine over the coco pops that would be yucky! It 2 big spoons of dry coco pops followed by 2 big gulps of vino :-)

nessa I feel you, OH has attempted something similar this month pretending to be asleep, guess its karma for me for all those years I claimed to have a headache!

dulcet you right about not wanting to do it all the time, its been too bloody hot the last couple of weeks sometimes can't help but think just hurry up and finish already! Then I can do a handstand and you can leave me alone for abit!

EssieSaysRelax Wed 31-Jul-13 08:56:05

Omg, I LOVE cocopops, even the sainos/tesco own brand ones are lush. I buy them as a treat and DH tells me off then I see him tucking into them. grin

It's DHs birthday this week, and ertd is still here so we are both tucking into the wine a fair bit, feel a bit hungover this morning! Ooops.

I postponed the foof check appointment, bottled out, I couldn't face someone prodding about down there with ertd in attendance even though they said it was fine.

So can your literal phase change? Or does it always stay the same? In the last few cycles I've worked mine out to be 10 days, then 14 days, then 18 days, so either I'm a freak yes or I can't count also a possiblity.

Minion Wed 31-Jul-13 09:00:34

So off. Trot to wok las night ands I'm standing at the door smiling through gritted teeth I come over al nauseous and proceed to revisit everything id had to eat for the previous 12 hours. Which is weird as I didn't feel unwell just odd. But it was very hot on the aircraft on the ground..
Still no PMS and If I'm on a average of a30 day cycle, due today or im late...
Stil have a flight to do tonight so who knows....

Alohomora Wed 31-Jul-13 09:13:46

minion I hope you're feeling better, trundling up and down an airplane isle in this heat while feeling sick is in at least my fifth circle of hell.

Having brekkie outside work in the car, I feel really queasy, too, weird backaches and I might have to entertain a dozen toddlers at work in an hour, don't feel really up for it.

Symptom spotting is crap, you keep in looking for twinges and if you don't get a bfp all you've done is you've made yourself miserable.

PrincessKitKat Wed 31-Jul-13 09:18:38

Good morning viroids. Well I couldn't wait til Friday to POAS...
And I got my BFP smile it's a bit faint (12dpo), but it's definitely there.

Crikey. But what do i do now?
Do I tell DH now or wait til he gets home? Can I tell my 5-weeks pregnant friend or should i tell DH first? I'm bursting! What would you do?

I need a drink (But will not have one).

Minion Wed 31-Jul-13 09:24:43

Congratulations, our first BFP on the new Fred!
So go on, mandatory requirements are how'd you feel? What symptoms etc?
Yay, Wonderful news x

DulcetMoans Wed 31-Jul-13 09:28:07

Yay! A BFP! Congrats kitkat.

I did test this morning and BFN but I think that was enough to tempt the witch out. Think I'm out viroids. Again. Sigh. But we tried so hard!

Alohomora Wed 31-Jul-13 09:29:02

kitkat that's fantastic, congratulations!

I'd send my OH a loving ema which artfully expresses my upduffedness via cat makros, but we're a special case. grin

PrincessKitKat Wed 31-Jul-13 09:39:42

Ar, thanks ladies.
I confess, I used a cheaply OPK and started shagging as soon as a pale line appeared.
I had these symptoms:
- three days after icing I had weird pink CM which I'd never had before
- had mild cramps 7 days after icing
- noticeable boob pain also started about 7 days and just continued hmm

And that was it - I was fairly convinced I wasn't upduffed.

Everything crossed now. And everything crossed for all the lovely JSers on here too - I want us all to have a month of BFPs thanks

EssieSaysRelax Wed 31-Jul-13 09:51:24

Yay KitKat! Well done! first upduffer on the new fred too. Congrats. Let us know how you decide to tell DH! xx

fifi669 Wed 31-Jul-13 10:20:00

Kitkat has done a kitten, how apt! Congratulations!

PrincessKitKat Wed 31-Jul-13 10:24:12

I didn't manage a kitten fifi! It's taken a few attempts wink

ZingWidge Wed 31-Jul-13 10:27:37

congrats kitkat !thanks

kitkat congrats! Woohoo!

essie nice to see you all too, I am keeping fine, hating the heatwave, but otherwise okay. Am def going to lurk on this Fred, I think it's another lucky one... fxfxfxfxfxfx for you all.

Alohomora Wed 31-Jul-13 11:48:29

Colleague just tried to bully me into doing a test because I said I'm feeling queasy, nosy people are nosy! Think I'll have a go in the weekend despite being quite sure nothing happened this month.

Can someone turn this heat off?

Alohomora Wed 31-Jul-13 12:02:52

I am really sorry, I am incapable of typing on on this phone when rushing! blush

pizzaqueen Wed 31-Jul-13 12:32:04

Congratulations kitkat flowers

Minion Wed 31-Jul-13 15:32:34

Up in the words of Duncan Bannatyne 'I'm out'
It's here and she's making herself known. Really thought this month something was different. Guess not, just a different set of PMS symptoms. when will my body just settle the frick down?

EssieSaysRelax Wed 31-Jul-13 16:00:56

oh minion, I'm sorry. Come to the party, we have a wave machine in the pity pool now.

GreatScott1 Wed 31-Jul-13 16:19:12

Congrats kitkat 1st one of the thread! Fx it's the start of another lucky thread!

Everyone - Do people in RL know you are ttc?

We decided to keep it to ourselves but am finding it increasingly difficult to fend of the nosy rosies! What do you say to all the questions? When are you going to have a baby? What are you waiting for? I'm bloody trying

One of my friends announced she was 3 months pregnant today, I felt a bit gutted jealous (she didn't think it would happen so quick etc) but have given myself a kick up the arse coz I know I should be happy for her!

EssieSaysRelax Wed 31-Jul-13 16:24:57

Hi great, only one of my friends knows, and only because she is ttc#2 and struggling (got up duff with no1 on her honeymoon!). I can't cope with anyone else knowing and DH is even less likely to want to discuss it than me. I get annoyed with want to punch the nosey people and I just tell them we're not ready and too busy enjoying ourselves because having kids looks like hard work. That usually shuts them up! I do find it hard though and one day I will probably snap at someone and tell them to fook off. I don't think you are alone in getting envy at friends upduff announcements.

fifi669 Wed 31-Jul-13 16:26:33

I am the worst secret keeper in the world (of my own anyway), so everyone knew we were going to TTC before we even started! My sisters tend to ask alot if i'm upduffed yet but everyone else doesn't mention it... well not much.

My bestie is pregnant, she TTC for a year with her first and had a tough time with all our group getting pregnant around her so i'm genuinely happy she was caught so quick this time.

Essie Can you save me a spot in the pity pool? She's not here yet...but i can feel the witch breathing down my neck :-( I'll bring biscuits....

EssieSaysRelax Wed 31-Jul-13 16:45:40

Can you bring rich tea so we can sandwich them together with butter? Nom nom nom.

It's good to hear a friend who struggled to get up duff first time round got there quickly second time.

pizzaqueen Wed 31-Jul-13 16:53:50

we didn't want to tell anyone we were ttc but when I had miscarriage last month I had to tell work as I had some complications and family and close friends knew I was pg so now it feels like the whole world know s we're trying. hmm I don't like tgem knowing it feels like even more pressure to get upduffed.

on another ttc note - what does ovulation pain feel like? and can you ovulate without ewcm? I had one sharp twinge on one side tonight as I was getting on the train. Is ov pain more constant?

Alohomora Wed 31-Jul-13 17:59:53

I've told people we are planning a family at some point but that there is absolutely no rush. Ever since we got married in February I've had my nosy colleagues all over me every time I am feeling sick. I love them dearly but sheesh!

lil1ady Wed 31-Jul-13 18:08:28

I told three close friends as I originally stopped drinking completely when we started TTC that didn't last long and I knew they'd assume I was upduffed. I usually say I'm too busy enjoying having money and going on holidays to have kids yet. my mum is the worst and I know she'd only be more of a nightmare IG she knew we were TTC.

on another note when I got in the car tonight, dh had his phone connected to play his music through the car and whatever song was playing had some tag that put "t.t.c." on the dash display. I can't escape!

GreatScott1 Wed 31-Jul-13 18:11:11

I don't want people to know because I think then I will get even more people asking even more questions! But maybe if I tell them it will shut them up?!?! I don't mind when it's my best mates (I think they secretly know!) but its when its people who just want the gossip it drives me mad! For the last year we have said, we are just enjoying being married before we think about kids, but now we have had our 1 year anniversary they have all started again! Why can't people mind their own business!?

I don't think I get ovulation pains so can't be much help sorry! From the little I've read, it's a shortish, one sided pain so could be? Get your cape on pizza (what does yours look like this month)

lil1ady Wed 31-Jul-13 18:12:05

pizza ov pain is different for everyone and no definitive evidence on what causes it. some ppl get it before others during some after. I tend to get twinges on and off leading up to ov then they get sharper as I ov then die down again and stop a little bit after ov. not everyone gets ewcm either. it can be watery which is just as good. some ppl just don't get as much so don't notice it unless they go looking for it! I consider myself lucky cos I get loads of ewcm right up until I ov.

pizzaqueen Wed 31-Jul-13 18:36:36

thanks scott and lil1ady yes watery (tmi!) but no ewcm. DP doesn't finish work til 11pm and I've been up since 6am so I'm not sure whether its worth staying up late to get the cape on contraband showing very faint line. He's working every night this week so we won't manage a few nights in a row. Don't want to miss the window though. Gah!

DownstairsMixUp Wed 31-Jul-13 18:55:16

essie everyone seems to say it should stay the same but i am skeptical about that. Surely luteal phases can be effected by birth control or any sort of hormonal interference?!

Minion Sorry about AF, I literally finished mine yesterday to, shit isn't it? sad

Alohomora Tell me about it! I was getting all excited when I got that bit of brown CM (sorry if tmi) for it to turn out just to be bleedin witch! What a cowbag! I think you can just drive yourself crazy symptom spotting! Def hold off to the weekend as well, apparentely HCG levels double every day so if you are, hopefully it will be a strong BFP!

PrincessKitKat Congrats on your BFP! Def tell your OH smile What lovely news!

Dulcet Sorry about the BFN sad But untill the witch arrivers... you never know!

pizzaqueen I don't usually get cramps when i ov personally, just lots of wet CM.

My period finished today! Was a short one, only 3 days so that's quite nice! Gotta start keeping my eyes open now for the tell tale watery CM so i'm officially back to trying :D

cookielove Wed 31-Jul-13 18:57:18

Congratulations, KitKat grin

Info for all those ladies who are using contraband wink
Someone on here wisely told me that the the lines have to match for it to mean your are icing!!

Right who's next for there BFP's??

DulcetMoans Wed 31-Jul-13 19:12:56

Make room in that pity pool viroids, I'm going for a cannon ball! I'm well and truly out and suffering. I feel a full on sulk coming on too. As gifts for the group I have brought coca cola and cinema sweet popcorn. It's one of my fave combinations.

ZingWidge Wed 31-Jul-13 19:34:50

essie if the luteal phase is shorter than 2 weeks it means that the lining of the uterus doesn't get thick enough.
It's very "sensitively" named luteal phase defect
and can be caused by polycystic ovaries, endometriosis, thyroid problems and even ED.
there's hormone treatments available to counteract the problem.

it can

ZingWidge Wed 31-Jul-13 19:38:29


it can be corrected easily by over the counter or prescription drugs or by taking B6 vitamin supplements.

ChocChaffinch Wed 31-Jul-13 20:25:32

congrats kitkat lovely news.

Happy shagging the rest of you lovely viroids!

AuntieMaggie Wed 31-Jul-13 20:42:25

Congratulations Kitkat smile

I'm sorry for those with BFN or ERTD.

I definitely think my bleeding is now ERTD... its lighter than my normal periods and I've had no other symptoms I normally have but it can't really be anything else can it?

If it is then my cycle was short too (I think!) downstairs but I need an idiots guide to what this all means and what should be happening... off to find out on the internet!

PrincessKitKat Thu 01-Aug-13 08:13:23

I had a weirdly short period last time. Its as if your body senses you're trying to do something and purposely begins acting up & testing your patience (practice for DCs maybe?!). Also i didn't got a proper line on an OPK, just a couple of fairly faint ones?

Thank you so much for the lovely congrats viroids. DH was very happy but in slight shock - it turns out he thought he might not be able to have kids because 'one ball is much smaller than the other'!! I never noticed!! Poor PrinceKK and his tiny testicle! arf!

DownstairsMixUp Thu 01-Aug-13 09:27:38

I've no idea Auntie my period this month never turned bright red like it usually does, it just stayed brown, i only used a tampon once and it hurt pulling out (sorry if tmi!) because it was so dry! It was def an unusual period but combining the short luteal phase it's a bit of a worry!

Aww bless your other half PrincessKitKat and his small ball worries lmao, men come out with some right lines sometimes!

EssieSaysRelax Thu 01-Aug-13 09:38:27

Hi everyone.

Pinch punch first of the month etc.

ERTD vacating the premisis here so I'll be getting my new pimped up cape on soon.

Re the literal phase thing. I've only been half paying attention to mine because my contraband useage is sporadic. So this cycle I am going to pay proper attention <must focus on task in hand and not get distracted> and try and work out how long it is as I have no idea! It could be anything from 10-18 days?!

Sorry to everyone else with ERTD, BFN and LPD (literal phase defects - no, not a very sensitive name is it? does it mean anyone with a literal phase that isn't 14 days is 'defective'? That'll be most of us then).

Nearly the weekend viroids! grin We are having a bbq tonight cos its DHs Bday.


clareyfarey Thu 01-Aug-13 09:47:45

Morning ladies, hope everyone is all good smile

Congrats KitKat! Xxx

No AF yet, 2 days late but could just be another 35 days cycle ...... Cheers for those Mother Nature!

EssieSaysRelax Thu 01-Aug-13 09:48:28

Downstairs that does sound a bit strange, I have found since coming off the pill that my periods are really inconsistent, both in arrival time, and then in amount of pain and flow as well. I had one which lasted 1 day, and then the next cycle it lasted 5 days. Weirdness.

DownstairsMixUp Thu 01-Aug-13 09:53:06

Have a nice bbq essie glad to hear AF has been evicted for you to! Yes it was odd, though to be fair, the last few I've had have all been fine, just had short luteal phases! Maybe I've just been stressing myself out!

ZingWidge Thu 01-Aug-13 10:16:45

essie My logic is that a longer luteal phase would not be a problem as that would mean that the lining has more time to grow and get thicker. and therefore more accommodating. does that make sense?

it's the less than 14 days that can cause the problems.

I think taking B6 vitamin is probably a good idea and easy to do, according to Dr Google.

ZingWidge Thu 01-Aug-13 10:20:02

btw I'm not ignoring everyone else!

I'm still here to cheer you all on!
also hugs to those who need it!thanks

DulcetMoans Thu 01-Aug-13 10:24:47

It's August meaning I can officially say I get married this month. Which is mental!

Having awful ERTD to take my mind off that though. Proper painful, luck punishment for being hopeful! Lol.

Alohomora Thu 01-Aug-13 10:49:44

-I've- -bought- -some- -contraband-

I had EWCM mucus and pains I normally have during OV, but I should've OVed ages ago. Frustrated!

pizzaqueen Thu 01-Aug-13 11:15:57

I'm at softplay with my ds just just now, there's only him and an older boy here, the older boy was telling him about his sister. My ds replied 'me getting a sister but not in mummy's tumny yet, maybe later.' blush the boys grandad is trying to stifle a laugh. Sad times when even your two year old knows your ttc!!wine

EssieSaysRelax Thu 01-Aug-13 11:36:40

Oh pizza, thats so cute. Bless him.

Dulcet, sorry to hear you are in pain.

Aloho, sorry you are also in the screwed up icing club.

brew and biscuit for everyone. x

fifi669 Thu 01-Aug-13 13:44:00

aloho I'm not completely out this month though the signs are there and have also purchased contraband for use this coming month not that I know what I'm doing really

EssieSaysRelax Thu 01-Aug-13 16:36:47

DH just emailed me to say he is going to be away with work again in 2 weeks, according to my app this is The Week We Need To Shag. FFS. This never going to happen! Out of the 8 cycles so far 5 of them have involved us not actually being together at the right time, 1 of them he had a groin strain and was crippled, and the others I didn't know wtf I was up to and hadn't learned about jsing, literal phases, EWCM and all the other jizz jazz. <wails dramatically>

Curly86 Thu 01-Aug-13 17:27:32

TMI alert - I have EWCM and have phoned OH to say there is an emergency at home and he needs to leave work now!
Hoping there could still be time for me this month, however it could all be a nasty trick like it was earlier in the month! Hopefully these 50day cycles may cut down! So at least I have more bloody chances at it! Sod's law that this weekend is going to be the good time for baby making were going to stay at a friends! Just have to be naughty and sneak off and do it in the car needs must an all that blush

pizzaqueen Thu 01-Aug-13 19:59:42

looks like its time for some ofvus to get our capes on!

I had pains in ovary area yesterday and wet cm past couple of days, does this mean I'm ov now or next few days? I really had to persaude dp to dtd last night at 11:30pm when he finished work, it'll be pretty hard impossible to persaude him tonight. Will we have missed the window by tomorrow night or saturday? Argh!

Curly86 Thu 01-Aug-13 20:06:16

I think when it's clear watery and abit slimey is the best time; on the plus side pizza if you dtd last night the spermicles can live for a couple of days and wait for an egg so it's not all bad, apparently if you want a girl your best to do it the early part/before Ov and dtd on the best day for a boy?

pizzaqueen Thu 01-Aug-13 20:19:04

curly its clear but not slimey (way tmi sorry!) so im wondering whether ov is right now or just approaching, if its aporoaching we can afford to wait til tomorrow. Otherwise I need to hope last night's are hanging in there swimming around waiting to meet their egg!

DownstairsMixUp Thu 01-Aug-13 20:19:35

Dulcet Sorry about your rubbishy period! :-( It's nearly friday, have an early alcoholic beverage ;o)

fifi when are you going to test? What sort of signs are you having for AF then?

Essie Sorry your other half is going away, that really does suck :-(

pizzaqueen I think wet slippery CM is the fertile stuff, i had loads of that, i felt constantly wet and that was when i had my positive contraband :P

Nothing exciting happening for me i'm afraid, obv i finishe period yesterday so not expecting to ovulate anytime soon which sucks. Feel like it's just a waiting game now for next fertile time. On the plus side, i'm glad i'm not oving tonight as it is immesly hot here still! Don't think i have the energy to BD!

fifi669 Thu 01-Aug-13 20:36:49

Downstairs I tested Monday (too soon), yesterday and today, all BFN, my app says I'm due Sunday. I've had a low stomach ache for days though and i'm being a stresshead. Would like to think it's only because I really want to be pregnant and i'm overthinking.... but pretty sure it's PMT

DownstairsMixUp Thu 01-Aug-13 21:30:05

Well you never know fifi! Some womens bodies take longer with implantation etc. Why not tell yourself no more testing till say monday?

fifi669 Thu 01-Aug-13 21:49:34

She's here sad

Stupid body.... Oh well I can have a few beers this weekend now at my nephews christening, silver lining?

Start the whole charade again soon with first use of contraband

AQuarkTooFar Thu 01-Aug-13 21:54:49

Woohoo shag cape will be flying in the quark household tonight! I'm feeling a but wet down there and had positive contraband! The wine is on the go too!

Congrats kitkat!

Sorry to hear some of you are having rubbish ertds. Fingers crossed they disappear soon!

AQuarkTooFar Thu 01-Aug-13 21:56:31

Cross posted with you there fifi sorry to hear ERTD got you. sad

Hooray for beers at the christening though!

ChocChaffinch Thu 01-Aug-13 22:18:28

go for it quarky grin

EssieSaysRelax Thu 01-Aug-13 22:34:46

Happy shagging quark!

I've drunk too much champers. It's dhs bday though. grin

Night night viroids

Wheredidmyyouthgo Thu 01-Aug-13 23:12:20

Hi Viroids,

I've been lurking on this thread for a few weeks now, and am officially twotting. Month 1.

I have DD 3.5, and TTC #2.

Am maybe 4dpo, but that's a guess. 26/27 day cycle. Am becoming crazily preoccupied with symptom spotting. Ridic, I know!

AQuarkTooFar Thu 01-Aug-13 23:39:19

Hi where welcome to the thread!

Ok everyone I am getting stupidly over excited here and Dh thinks I am a weirdo! Ok tmi alert but defo had watery pant snot today, got a positive on an opk this afternoon so I jumped on Dh. I swear I felt ov pains whilst JSing and then half way through the Boob's new song came on the radio! It's got to be a sign! I am going to be hideously disappointed if this is not our month!

fifi669 Thu 01-Aug-13 23:40:54

where it's not ridiculous, we're all doing it!

lil1ady Thu 01-Aug-13 23:58:55

I am officially out. not sulking this month though as I was expecting it after dh letting me down with not being in the mood at the right time. I'm considering handing responsibility for my cycle to him this month. he decided on contraband he decides on when to DTD. he decides when to test. what do you think?

sorry for those also getting the witch visit again.

quark you have surely done it if the boob came on! fx!

Alohomora Fri 02-Aug-13 00:03:53

Hope everybody had/is in the middle of a good shagging session!

Had a good talk with my DH tonight, so at least we're a bit more on the same page, baby-wise - I was complaining about his complacency, he confessed that he was scared shitless, we had a good discussion, now let the shagging commence!

ERTD hasn't shown up yet, my body seems to be determined to stick to a stupid 36 day cycle!

cookielove Fri 02-Aug-13 08:31:29

lil that sounds like a good idea. Do you think he would?

Hello where (love the name)

Hope ertd clears off for those stuvk in her clutches soon! !

Hello everyone smile

EssieSaysRelax Fri 02-Aug-13 08:59:02

Hi cookie, how's things?

Welcome where, sorry to hear you are twotting, we've got hooyas if you need them!

quark fx, now you've been boobed then a bfp ought to be a certainty surely?

Aloho, we had that chat last cycle too when I lost the plot a bit when we missed icing time again. Hope you feel better about it all now. It's easy to forget to talk about it, I find it quite difficult talking to him about the various happenings in my body! Lil, I like that idea and may have to try it too, my DH is a spreadsheet junkie, so perhaps he can whip up some formulas and be in charge of it all for a bit too! I love not having to make decisions! On which note, I have to make someone redundant today and I hate myself for it and I've been awake for hours stressing about it. sad Bad times, but it has to be done.

PrincessKitKat Fri 02-Aug-13 08:59:44

Love it Lil - take the pressure off yourself for a month, put a bit more responsibility on your OH & see how you get on. My only issue would be that my DH only just about understands shagging so to throw cycles and ovving in the mix might lead to meltdown smile

Good luck Quark!

Alohomora Fri 02-Aug-13 10:27:41

lil, brilliant idea, DH's a mathematician/software engineer, he might feel more involved in what's going on with my bod this way.

I think I'm out for this month, ladies, POAS this morning and it was a bfn. The evil witch is still just lurking around the corner though, so I'm waiting for that and then I'll get my cape out again!

AQuarkTooFar Fri 02-Aug-13 10:47:46

lil I would say go for it re getting your Dh to do more.

Way back when we just js'd without intent I decided to go on the pill. Dh became incredibly lazy with his attitude re contraception and it was all up to me to re takin the pill. For some reason this really annoyed me so I came back off the pill and made Dh take responsibility for condoms. He was too embarrassed to even go in to a shop and buy them but he soon learned!

Viroids we shouldn't let our ohs get lazy about ttc! Lets give them out stres this month and let them deal with it!

AQuarkTooFar Fri 02-Aug-13 10:50:32

Whoops got a bit carried away there!

So I think that's me in the twot now. I'm off to the symptom spotting cave with the unicorn and some chocolate popcorn cause I don't like them choc pretzels you speak of!

You will find me stroking the unicorn if anyone needs me!

clareyfarey Fri 02-Aug-13 11:42:56

AF here with a vengeance! hmm Am at work so can't even be sad, will have to wait til tonight and eat crap, and drink lots of wine.

Ah well, can't say I'm surprised, this diffing lark isn't as easy as it looks!

Happy Friday to you all grin

AQuarkTooFar Fri 02-Aug-13 15:23:09

Ah that's sucks clarey. flowers for now wine for later.

Happy Friday to you too!

essie how did everything go at work? Was it as crap as expected? wine for you too.

pizzaqueen Fri 02-Aug-13 16:50:42

ah sorry to those who af has got tjis month. hope it passes quick and you can get your capes back on.

All the signs are there that I'm icing, cm etc postive contraband too we dtd last night, should I try again tonight or wait until tomorrow when dp will be more amenablewink should I tell him I'm ov? im worried it might freak him out and he'll get stage fright hmm .

lil1ady Fri 02-Aug-13 17:05:52

pizza u could try tempt him tonight and if no luck force him tomorrow!

well I mentioned dh taking a bit more charge and he got sulky. I'm not going to bother this month though. its his turn. if he wants a baby he can damn well try and make it happen for a change! then when we DTD all month and AF shows up to disappoint him I will be able to say I told you so and maybe then he will understand. I have too much going on at work to be dressing about TTC as well.

on the plus side though I seem to be back to my pre pill days of very little cramping throughout AF. thank god for that!

Essie hope the redundancy talk wasn't too awful. here wine thanks

good luck to the twotters. I like the sound of chic pop corn!

off to design a new cape for when the control freak I really am can't live with dh doing nothing for the ttc cause for a month

Curly86 Fri 02-Aug-13 17:16:41

Good luck pizza it's Friday night I'm sure you can tempt your dp into a little something! But I agree if it doesn't work force him tomorrow, or threaten if he doesn't do it tonight he has to do it twice tomorrow?

My cape is off on the floor and has been trampled! Yesterday had EWCM dtd and today I'm dry as a bone (tmi) and have period pains :-/ ERTD must be imminent although on the plus side means I will have had a 28 day cycle! -don't get hopes up as body does what it bloody wants-

pizzaqueen Fri 02-Aug-13 17:54:24

ah ok so I told him it was peak baby making time and he's got all pissed off with me for complicating things sad he jusy doesn't get thay window of opportunity he seems to think anytime you shag you can get preggers. gah! hes working til 11 anyway.

Curly86 Fri 02-Aug-13 19:30:08

How frustrating, hopefully last nights rumpy has done the trick; men are funny it's not complicating it; it's making it easier if anything, saves having to have non baby-making sex all month :-) my OH now stays out of our en suite as the OPK, prenatal vitamins, wee pots and various other naughty contraband frighten him, he says its over thinking and scaring nature! I think he's doesn't like the I'd of a wee stick in the same room as his toothbrush! wine for pizza

fifi669 Fri 02-Aug-13 20:55:32

I may have ERTD but work have asked me to work extra days, I've opted for just one more per week and negotiated a 2k full time equivalent pay increase! Winner!

lil1ady Fri 02-Aug-13 22:41:12

congrats on the rise Fifi excellent news!

oh pizza men are just so clueless! have you had a proper talk with him? could he still be grieving a bit over the mc?

curly the mental image I have of your en suite which in the picture in my head is my mums en suite cos I don't have one has made me chuckle. as for scaring nature, pah! we're not scaring it, we're coaxing it out!grin

Wheredidmyyouthgo Fri 02-Aug-13 23:02:54

Thank you for the welcome, hope all are having a relaxing night tonight!

I know this is ridiculous as I'm only (about) 5dpo, but my boobs feels stingy. As of last night. And they never feel sore / stingy. I think I'm being daft. In fact I'm sure I am. Someone slap me?!

Redshoes56 Sat 03-Aug-13 01:51:25

Hi ladies! I had so much to do when I got back from my business trip. Just now settling in. I won't pretend to catch up on everything. ERTD has come and gone so, new month, new cape! (This one is a naughty schoolgirl theme, I have decided, since my DH just started his masters program.) Happy weekend, all.

Curly86 Sat 03-Aug-13 07:38:43

lil the en suite resembles a science lab I will be honest I'm thinking of getting one o those yellow hazard bins the hospital have just to finish it off

cookielove Sat 03-Aug-13 08:21:59

essie hello hello hello life is good. Well for me at least. Dh had caught my work sickness bug. Urgh were meant to be given away tomorrow !!

DownstairsMixUp Sat 03-Aug-13 10:19:35

Pizzaqueen How did tempting the OH go? ;-) And my OH is the same, he doesn't understand the timing of getting a baby, just thinks shagging at anyo I#ll get pregnant whenever hmmwhole month so I#ll get pregnant whenever hmm

Curly86 Have you had AF now? Mine's been a bit sporadic this month :S Very confusing!

Congrats on the news fifi that's excellent!

Hi redshoes glad you have your cape back on, maybe this month will be it smile

And have a great weekend all of you! smile Maybe one of you will get your BFP?!

My body is still playing up! That weird 3 day brown spotting i had went away for two days, yesterday i was in the bath and had a little more hmm i think maybe i was just spotting for a "true" period and i reckon knowing my luck I'll come on full flow in the middle of work or something so i've got my handbag nicely stacked just "incase"

I've also started taking vitamin b6 so FX! smile

pizzaqueen Sat 03-Aug-13 11:30:59

I have everything x for you downstairs weird spotting could be implantation?

tempting dp didn't work last night, we had a bit of an arguement about me putting too much pressure on things / him not being serious enough about it and I was too upset with him to even contemplate dtd and pretended to be asleep when he got home. Maybe wed/thurs sperms will make it, although I don't hold much hope...its wait and see time now. fed up with this whole thing already, all the waiting and its only cycle 1!!

Curly86 Sat 03-Aug-13 15:33:28

downstairs no ERTD, all pain has gone, some CM but not loads, think it will be another 50 day cycle, have agreed with OH that we should try to Dtd at least every other day for next 2 weeks as I'm thinking I should ovulate at some point as on 50day cycle AF is due 25th August, although am seriously doubting letting him father my children after he referred to me as a sperm whale, and a spunk bowzer! (Apparently a bowzer is a lorry that transports fuel?) OH thinks he is a comedian I think he's a prick

DownstairsMixUp Sat 03-Aug-13 16:35:28

No idea pizza :/ I did a preg test just to be sure this morning as I knew i was having a drink this evening and BFN so lawd knows, thinking it must be AF just being a bit of a weirdo this month! I know the feeling though, I'm already fed up to, just hate all the reading for signs then being positive about things only for it to be rubbish so big glass of wine for you! My oh just always looks really dissapointed when we get a BFN which makes me feel terrible. sad

Doing it every other day sounds a good plan Curly86 so in theory there should always be some sperm about around ovulation. Have you been using any whispers contraband? Sperm whale lmao! He should be happy he is getting regular sex at least! These men eh never happy!

Curly86 Sat 03-Aug-13 18:14:33

I started using OPKs and used them pretty much everyday for the first 3 weeks of my cycle all to be negative, have worked out if the theory of AF starts 14 days after OV then I should OV Tuesday, which doesn't explain the period pains I've had last couple of days, I'm checking my CM, hate peeing on any kind of stick to just get a neg result even The OPK makes me feel a failure! So JS for me, and OH should be more grateful although all romance has gone out of TE window and think he's feeling "used" hahaha

Redshoes56 Sat 03-Aug-13 18:19:03

curly laughing re: bowzer. They really should be grateful for all the extra loving, no? Men!!

Curly86 Sat 03-Aug-13 18:53:19

Tell me about it red I guess the sweet justice comes when I finally get a BFP and don't have to do it! Then he will be the spunk bowzer!

DownstairsMixUp Sat 03-Aug-13 20:47:58

You had all negative tests curly? out of curiosity when did you test? I heard using morning wee isn't good and you are meant to test in the afternoon?

ChocChaffinch Sat 03-Aug-13 21:17:37

is anyone doing the SMEP ? it worked for me smile

best of luck shaggers! go to it!

cookielove Sun 04-Aug-13 07:50:25

Smep also worked for me grin

(Google Sperm meets egg plan)

There's a pick on my profile of my one and only + opk that ledvme to getting up duffed if you wanna see what a + one looks like smile

lil1ady Sun 04-Aug-13 09:59:06

morning all

we were going to do smep last month but dh was hopeless.

hopefully trying it again this month. I've downloaded my app onto dh's phone and logged it all in so he can see when we r likely to have to get busy! I'm hoping if he feels more prepared it will happen!

funny that ppl are saying AF has been a short visit this month, cd3 here and she seems to be packing already i will probably regret saying that, maybe she's just changing cases I wonder if its the weather or something.

hope everyone has nice plans for the day. dinner at my mums tonight and my aunty no one likes will be there grrr

DownstairsMixUp Sun 04-Aug-13 10:29:45

I did a pregnancy test this morning and I got a faint line.... i am literally shell shocked. I was convinced that was my period the other day but i did an OPK last night which was weirdly strong so i was kind of like, right, that's not right surely? Only just finished my period and ovulating again so told myself I'll do one more preg test to be sure in the morning. And there is a faint line. I just don't want to get too excited till it turns darker, does that sound really silly?!

I'm just really shocked at the mo!

pizzaqueen Sun 04-Aug-13 10:48:48

oh downstairs how exciting!!! congratulations!!

go out and get a digital test. nlthing better than seeing it in words.

DownstairsMixUp Sun 04-Aug-13 10:51:04

I think im gonna wait till tomo morning and see if it getsstronger! Ive read to death about chemical pregnancies etc im too frightened to get my hopes up!!

cookielove Sun 04-Aug-13 11:00:54

Sounds positive downstairs fx for tomorrow! !

pizzaqueen Sun 04-Aug-13 11:07:32

have everything crossed for you downstairs report back tomorrow!

just googles smep and that's pretty much what we've done this cycle without knowing we were following a plan. Twotting here now.

dp changes his mind like the weather and said yesterday if I wasn't pg soonish he was using all our baby savings to get our drive extended. he was joking or so I flaming hope!

DulcetMoans Sun 04-Aug-13 12:21:28

Ooooo fx downstairs! Just whether you can hold out until the morning now!

I bought some seven seas TTC pills today, it's got the frolic and some B6 in it I think so maybe that will help? ERTD on the way out now, cape due to be unpacked tomorrow I think. It's lacy this month to match my wedding dress!

Alohomora Sun 04-Aug-13 12:25:12

downstairs hooray, I agree, go out and splurge on one of those early digital ones! I have everything crossed for you!

I had a really disturbing dream last night, we had a baby and I was breastfeeding and all but kept on forgetting to do stuff, but then it turned into our cocker spaniel when she was a small puppy and I said to my other half "this isn't really right, we should've waited until we had a proper baby.". shock Bah.

Redshoes56 Sun 04-Aug-13 15:46:20

That is exciting downstairs!! Keep us posted!

aloho that is disturbing but kind of funny. Our minds do terrible things to us in the night! Maybe the takeaway is you've been a great dog mom and that will help you when the baby comes?

I have this recurring dream where I'm working out of a different office with this extremely vast desk that I have to literally crawl across to reach simple things like pens, and paper. Stressed, much? Last night I also dreamt I was chasing a frog, trying to capture him in an old shoebox. What the hell does that mean?! LOL

lil I also had a short visit from AF this month - two and a half days or so. It's definitely been shorter since going off the pill, but that was exceptionally short!

PrincessKitKat Sun 04-Aug-13 16:28:54

How exciting Downstairs! A line is a line, but can't wait to see if you feel more reassured tomorrow!

Dulcet, I'm excited for you too! Weddings are the best. Are you ready or is there much left to do?

Curly86 Sun 04-Aug-13 16:41:50

downstairs how exciting a line is a line! I'm so pleased for you!

All my OPKs have been negative and I wee on them in the afternoon about 5pm when I get in from work, I think it's just my really long cycle, hoping I ovulate next weekend, OH is now working away for a few days

DownstairsMixUp Sun 04-Aug-13 17:29:37

Thank you cookie and all the others who have said congrats! Just hoping it's stronger tomorrow etc, i've scared myself silly with chemical pregnancy stories/evap lines etc etc! I'm going to use a cheapie tomorrow then hold out for a digital till wednesday just so i am 100% sure. I've heard HCG doubles daily so hoping that gives it enough time to be sure.

How far are you in the TWOT pizzaqueen? My oh reguarly jokes like that to and can never quite figure him out! :S

It's worth a go Dulcet I was reading a lot of positive stories about adding vitamin b6 and it successfully lengthing luteal phases!

Haha Alohomora weird dreams like that are always a bit "huh" i tend not to remember mine tho!

Two days is very short redshoes could it not be anything else? I know the pill does mess up your cycle but could be something more positive...

Thank you Princesskitkat I'm hoping it's darker tomorrow so i can stop saying "oh it's an evap line" or this and that, it doesn't feel good enough to admit it's happening yet!

Curly86 it's not unheard of though to have all negative OPKs and still have ovulated during your cycle? If you google it it seems it is quite common, maybe some women's level of the LH hormone just doesn't get high enough?? If you have been tracking your CM and having the tell tale signs i'm guessing surely you must be?

Curly86 Sun 04-Aug-13 17:41:47

I'm tracking the cm and I order a BBT thermometer; just hope I am ovulating and my hormone isn't strong enough like you say!

DownstairsMixUp Sun 04-Aug-13 17:58:12

Oh and ps all im away for a few days so wont be online! Im back thursday so ill be able to say then wether its good or bad news and have a mammoth catch up. Speak soon ladies x

PrincessKitKat Sun 04-Aug-13 19:14:01

Oh Downstairs.
The orange unicorn (does s/he have a name?!) does not like to be kept in suspense...!

DulcetMoans Sun 04-Aug-13 20:39:46

Thanks princess. It's getting there, cutting and sticking a lot this weekend and a but panic-y but I think it's ok overall.

How odd so many of you had short visits this month. Wonder if cycles will get aligned from hanging around here! Lol.

ChocChaffinch Sun 04-Aug-13 20:51:19

fingers x'd downstairs grin

Nessalina Sun 04-Aug-13 22:51:19

Hey viroids, been AWOL for a few days up at the Edinburgh Festival! smile
Really excited for you Downstairs, sounds veeeery good indeed!!! Fx for good news when you get back!
I'm in the TWOT right now, so all's quiet on the Ness front, but pretty sure we didn't DTD enough for a BFP hmm
FYI, those doing naughty OPKs, I used them this month and last much good it's doing me! and both months I got my surge on a late test, 10-11pm. I started doing twice a day, 5pm then bedtime, and I only got one positive each month which was on a late, the afternoon ones before & after it were quite a bit fainter. Worth trying different times a day to make sure you catch it. And then actually DTD not that I'm still annoyed with my DH or anything grrrr wink

AuntieMaggie Sun 04-Aug-13 23:07:43

I'm back after a social weekend and grumpy. After on/off light bleeding all week AF is well and truly here ffs. I have no idea what my body is doing. I just want to sit in bed and eat junk and get drunk...

Downstairs you tease... will keep fx.

Hope everyone is ok and has a good week ahead

pizzaqueen Mon 05-Aug-13 08:36:47

morning viriods. Is anyone on this thread not using contraband?

guilty of it myself

fifi669 Mon 05-Aug-13 09:53:58

pizza I have been JSing all this time bought contraband for this cycle, hoping it will help me identify signs of icing though we have regular sex throughout the month so not sure if there is any point in OPKs for us?

AuntieMaggie Mon 05-Aug-13 10:02:21

Me pizza - don't think I could cope with that at the mo!

Minion Mon 05-Aug-13 10:19:48

Morning shaggers!
Congrats downstairs I'm excited to see how it's all gone on when you come back.
pizza, I'm not using contraband per se, but am tracking using an app
fat lot of good it's done me tbh
ERTD has fooked off so now it's back to shag central when work loosen their reins on me a little. Night flights don't help bah!
Nowt new except the house move has moved on. Weve set up our survey so waiting to see of we are sinking every penny we have into a money pit or a home. Very exciting but makes me sick to the stomach every time I think of the fact I've been allowed to spend nearly a quarter of a million!

Just a q, girls.
Does anyone have this niggling doubt that you're infertile?
I'm really freKing out some times, I've never had a pg scare and its taking me an age to get upduffed considering I've had sex all at the right times,, very frustrating I know.
And I know there's ppl who've been trying a heck of a lot longer and still have no answers for their inability to conceive and there's no reason why I, or them could/are/may be infertile... It's just a niggling doubt... Anyone else?

EssieSaysRelax Mon 05-Aug-13 12:47:40

Hi viroids.

Hope everyone had a nice weekend.

Minion, yes. It's probably my biggest fear and one which I sometimes think I ought to prepare my head for incase it's a reality. Probably sounds like I'm being melodramatic, but I've always had this doubt that I'll ever have children. Having said that though, I'm going to give it a bloody good try for now and try and be optimistic. I guess with my history of cervical problems, plus my Mum's ultra early menopause, and several years house sharing with a friend who failed to conceive after 6 attempts at IVF and then her DH buggered off and left her, its probably no surprise it's a worry of mine, but I reckon anyone who doesn't do a kitten probably has the same anxiety. hmm If I'm not upduff by cycle 12 though I'm going straight to GP and not wasting any more precious time.

pizza, I ought to be using contraband as I keep telling myself I need to, but in truth, the few times I have, it hasn't made any different to when we shag or not, so no, generally I don't bother! I am committed to the JSing cause! (for now!)

quark and lil, the work thing on Fri was ok. Glad it was done. The person in question was understandably upset but did take it quite well. I still felt shit.

downstairs - AMAZING news! Can't wait for the update on Thurs!

I'm CD8, ERTD dragged out a bit but has been gone for a couple of days, but today I've got loads of blood stained EWCM. No shagging has occured since ERTD. Gawd knows whats going on with my body.

Love to all you other lovely shaggers.

Alohomora Mon 05-Aug-13 13:54:35

minion yes, totally - I had very early, regular like clockwork periods, but late teens/early twenties my periods stayed away for list if the year and twice a year I'd bleed so badly for ten days I couldn't leave the house. My doctor did frequent ultrasounds and my ovaries looked ok, and in the last 5-6 years my perios have been very regular hen not on Cerazette - bit there is a lingering doubt.

Hence doing one month of opks and charting just to make sure I am actually ovulating - then it's back to jsing for me!

Alohomora Mon 05-Aug-13 13:55:23

Sorry, that was just littered with spelling mistakes!

DulcetMoans Mon 05-Aug-13 14:13:19

Minion - I think the longer it takes the harder it is to not start considering that possibility. Same as essie though, I will keep optimistic and get help at the earliest reasonably opportunity. If there is a problem I don't want to leave it too late to find out!

Pizza - JSing here! Although I probably break the other rules. I do test too early and I do use period tracker but not just for TTC, for my own knowledge of what to expect!