Pull up a chair for the 2ww...

(710 Posts)
Tea1Sugar Sun 07-Jul-13 18:36:25

Anyone care to join me for this interminable length of waiting time?! I'm only 1 dpo! brew

Writerwannabe83 Sun 07-Jul-13 19:52:01

I think I have recently ovulated (not 100% sure about how EWCM) works though if I'm honest. smile

Either way, my AF is due in 14 days so I guess I can join you smile

Tea1Sugar Sun 07-Jul-13 20:04:51

I'm pretty in the dark too tbh it's my first cycle off the pill but had a positive opk on friday cd12 so I presume I ovulated yesterday!

Writerwannabe83 Sun 07-Jul-13 20:09:13

It is my first time TTC since removal of my Mirena coil grin

I have a 'pretty much in the dark' buddy now. Yay grin

I haven't gone down the OPK route.....I'm scared I will get addicted [ smile]

Bambi27 Sun 07-Jul-13 20:10:44

Had my fixed smiley today so soon to ovulate and be on the tww...great!!

Tea1Sugar Sun 07-Jul-13 20:13:31

Yay! Bambi - hope its not crazy sweaty/hot as it is here when you're trying to dtd!!

Writerwannabe83 Sun 07-Jul-13 20:13:36

So do you start DTD at this point or do you have to wait until ovulation actually occurs??

How long can sperm actually survive for up there for anyway???

Tea1Sugar Sun 07-Jul-13 20:15:32

Well my little knowledge of this ttc lark (dd was a pill baby!) is sperm can survive around 72 hours before ovulation so best to dtd every other day before ovulation so they are "waiting" as the egg only lasts 12-24 hours smile

charleylarlie Sun 07-Jul-13 20:18:24

Mee too! I got a fixed smiley on Tuesday and ewcm on the same day. From entering it all onto ovufriend (plus bbt) it said that I ovulated on Tuesday, but I reckon it was prob a day or so later so am prob about 4 or 5 dpo. Not sure exactly when AF due - will have to check. I am 37 and this is our 4th month ttc DC2. smile

charleylarlie Sun 07-Jul-13 20:23:36

Yes, dtd 1 to 3 days before ov will give you the best chance, Writer. DP and I dtd every other day until fixed smiley and then try 2 or 3 days in a row.

Writerwannabe83 Sun 07-Jul-13 20:23:47

Welcome Charley and Bambi,

Best of luck to you!! It would be great if we all got BFPs!!!

How long after EWCM does ovulation usually occur??

Writerwannabe83 Sun 07-Jul-13 20:25:19

Thanks charley - I'm starting to worry that DH is starting to feel 'used' haha grin

Planning on DTD is this weather is daunting..... smile

Tea1Sugar Sun 07-Jul-13 20:35:01

We've used pre-seed for the first time the past few times of dtd - it's err slippery! I think Af is due 19/ 20/21 but who knows blush

Writerwannabe83 Sun 07-Jul-13 20:36:41


Bambi27 Sun 07-Jul-13 20:44:34

No idea sorry!! I'm so out if tune with my body it's unreal!!! Xx

Tea1Sugar Sun 07-Jul-13 21:28:44

A lube specifically for conception. All others are damaging to sperm but this is actually designed to help the swimmers along! It mimics ewcm smile

charleylarlie Mon 08-Jul-13 11:37:57

I think that ewcm occurs just before or on the day of ov, but not entirely certain so don't take my word for it.

I've never heard of pre-seed. Can you buy it in Boots or the supermarkets?

Going to be a long couple of weeks as I'm only 4 or 5 dpo and already beginning to imagine symptoms (itchy and tingly boobs). Must be all in my head as it's far too early for me to have proper symptoms - implantation wouldn't even have occurred by now! confused

TeaAndANatter Mon 08-Jul-13 11:43:24

Pulling up a retro-faded stripe deckchair for the long fortnight ahead (well, one week now for me). Laying out a good book, some factor 50 and a long cold lemonade.

And wondering where I'd buy this pre-seed?

Tea1Sugar Mon 08-Jul-13 17:11:43

It's an American product but I bought mine on amazon as recommended by others mumsnetters. Can be used via applicator or straight on you/him. Only frigging 2dpo hmm

Tea1Sugar Mon 08-Jul-13 17:15:20

Now for a tmi cm mucus question grin Thursday and Friday seriously watery cm coupled with a positive opk, dtd both days, Saturday negative opk and minimal cm, think I ovulated according to various apps, yesterday and today cm is err creamy. I thought dpo were suppose to be dry? hmm

TeaAndANatter Mon 08-Jul-13 19:03:35

I think it works its way up to ewcm, then goes back down through the stages (but a wee bit faster). At least mine does, and its always been pretty consistent.

Tea1Sugar Tue 09-Jul-13 17:30:38

Think I'm out for the month hmm 3dpo and got loads of white creamy cm. Af due 20th but already very doubtful hmm

Bambi27 Tue 09-Jul-13 17:32:49

Tea1sugar why would that mean you're out?? I know nothing about cm??!! Xx

Tea1Sugar Tue 09-Jul-13 17:55:25

Just from stuff I've read tbh

Bambi27 Tue 09-Jul-13 18:38:01

Oh right well hope you're wrong and you get your bfp this month!!

charleylarlie Tue 09-Jul-13 18:52:48

Tea1Sugar - you probably wouldn't get any symptoms until implantation has occurred, which is about 6 - 12 dpo and even then you might not know for sure until you do a test. Some women get changes in their cm as a very early symptom of pg but many don't notice any change at all. I'm not v in touch with my body so have no clue really about my own cm - have only just discovered ewcm last month. But don't rule yourself out just yet! smile

MightilyOats Wed 10-Jul-13 16:07:10

I'm about half way through the 2ww (I think) -ttc #2 and though with #1 I was charting temps, knew my cycle inside and out this time round I haven't a clue grin

Had a couple of days mad symptom spotting at the weekend (as in probably about 2dpo), felt sick, light headed, tingly boobs, exhausted... POAS (yes ridiculously early, I know) and BFN (naturally!), since then, I've felt fine...

Moving house next week, so probably for the best if I'm not pg, but there you go smile

Definitelysometime Wed 10-Jul-13 19:24:48

Hi all <pulls up deckchair next to TeaAndANatter and opens tub of Haagen daaz>

I'm just starting my first real 2WW, except that I'm not really sure when I ovulated. Hmmmm, hope we DTD at the right times. I've just had two days of EWCM (though later than I thought, days 15 & 16). Does that mean I'm ovulating now? Oh gawd, maybe we need to DTD again tonight in that case?

AF due on 22nd, but if ovulation is late maybe even later... How to pass the time?

Tea1Sugar Wed 10-Jul-13 19:28:32

Hi all, I've had the most yucky taste in my mouth today, like soil , it's past now but a good two hours I spent wanting to rip my tongue out!

Writerwannabe83 Wed 10-Jul-13 19:36:51

Definitely : definitely DTD again tonight!!

My AF is due on the 21st too grin

Writerwannabe83 Wed 10-Jul-13 19:37:20

22nd I mean, lol

TeaAndANatter Wed 10-Jul-13 19:44:20

Due to test on Sunday or Monday. Not sure if I want to know, or just wait for a fat disappointment when AF comes and pocket the crispy fiver for chocolate.

Definitelysometime Wed 10-Jul-13 19:44:45

Oh brilliant, a TTC buddy! Will this be your first writer?

Luxlisbon82 Thu 11-Jul-13 08:53:29

Hi, can I join? I've got 8 days till I can test-
anyone else symptom spotting mad? I swore I wouldn't and on cycle 1:
I've already obsessed over veiny boobs and thighs

needing to eat a snickers twice in one day even though I'm normally a vegetarian super healthy foodie who doesn't like sugary stuff(probably caused the veiny-ness due to 3 eaten in 2 days-faaat)

Feeling unusually good- normally always tired due to other dc' s. That one is insane

And I actually have a little belly (see 3 snickers)

Weeing ALL the time Inc 5.30am, I mean it's not like like it's hot or anything and I'm drinking lots.....oh.

Being way more dippy than my usual self- claimed yesterday that W-E didn't spell anything. Stepped in cat sick I was fully aware was there 2mins before on my way to cleaning it up.

I'm normally quite sane and non obsessive, what happened?

TeaAndANatter Thu 11-Jul-13 20:09:55

Two or three more full days til test <drums fingers>

Tea1Sugar Thu 11-Jul-13 20:12:44

Please slap me I'm still doing opks each day despite being cd18 now and had just one positive opk on cd12. blush

TeaAndANatter Thu 11-Jul-13 20:16:31

Ha! Well, that's commitment for you. If it makes you feel good, go for it. Hell, roll them up and smoke them if it helps the 2ww go faster ;-)

Tea1Sugar Thu 11-Jul-13 20:18:23

Thanks! Got cramps tonight pretty intense tbh but at only cd18 I reckon it's IBS rather than Af or implantation. Still wishful though!

TeaAndANatter Thu 11-Jul-13 20:27:54

Crossing everything for you. It's only my first cycle post mc, so I'm not overly hopeful, but still going for it whole heartedly.

Tea1Sugar Thu 11-Jul-13 20:35:47

Sending loads of luck your way, it's my first cycle off the pill so also doubtful tbh, but us "teas" can stick together grin

Tea1Sugar Sat 13-Jul-13 10:31:13

Morning all. Strange thing for me today - for up at 6am with dd as I do everyday. I've just woken up from an hour's nap on the sofa. Really? A nap at 9.30am?!

TeaAndANatter Sat 13-Jul-13 16:56:30

Uhhh, lower temp today. Scenting no need to test tomorrow/Monday. Quite frankly, poo. First cycle post mc was probably hoping for too much, but I'd read so many other people managing it. Poo, poo, poo. Sadder than I thought this'd be. And also worrying that bleeding will be triggering about the mc. Good luck all remaining on the wait. I'll lurk until AF arrives, then slink off to the August bus. x

Oooh! Goog luck everyone!

I'm super confused, maybe you can all help me out? I have irregular cycles so not sure if I'm ovulating or impanting! Will continue to DTD every other day regardless (serious foof chafe, despite using conceive+). Okies, my cycle has been 28-35 days this year. Mostly 31/32. So, here's my activity this month, with symptoms...
Cd 1-5 AF
cd 6 DTD
cd 9 DTD (at Glasto, we're dedicated...)
cd 12,13,14 + 17,18 DTD

cd 19, 20, 21 Away on business, but got mild AF cramps in the night on 20 and 21.
cd 22 DTD and started getting mild achey boobs, like AF due but not as sore, v.mild.
cd 23 boobs still tiniest bit tender when I move them about.

cd23 is today... so if my longest cycle is 35, I guess I'm in the 2ww already, with my shortest cycle at 28 these could be symptoms of pg. Hmmm.

Thoughts or opinions anyone?

Good* (slaps forehead)

Jeez... *implanting.

EnglishBreakfastTea Mon 15-Jul-13 02:23:45

Hello ladies, brand new first time poster here! I'm on my first 2ww trying to conceive DC1 and i'm not enjoying it in the slightest, to be honest, I feel pretty rough! The constant ache ive been experiencing down there for the last 5 days is starting to scare me a bit! Has anyone experienced anything like this before?? AF is due on Sunday so its a bit early for me to POAS, its taking all my will power not too though! Hoping fingers & toes crossed that i'll get a BFP next week - at least it will put my mind at ease about the period type pain anyway! smile
Nice to meet you all, sending brew and as many BFPs as possible!

EnglishBreakfastTea Mon 15-Jul-13 02:34:14

Oops, forgot to mention that I'm not a night owl....I actually live in Australia so it's a reasonable time here! smile
KittyCatKittyCat - you sound just like me! My cycles range from 28 - 34 days, mostly they stable out at 30-31 but i can never really tell! Have you tried temping? I havent yet (--am going to do more research-- listen to mumsnet advice) before I invest in a kit. I've had odd feeling boobs in the last couple of days too, they dont hurt, just feel strange....I'm deffo taking it as a sign smile wishing you the best of luck!!

Luxlisbon82 Mon 15-Jul-13 09:42:58

Hey kittycat, if you are on a longer cycle the later pains could be later ov, do you get any other ov symptoms? maybe opks will help if you have varying lengths of cycles. If not many people complain of af type pains too early and go on to have a bfp, so fingers crossed for you!

Englishbreakfast I've been having these pains since about 7dpo but I'm first cycle off pill so don't know how long my cycle is, but all signs point to 28 days, so they are so early, hopefully it means positive things for us- at least something is going on in there?!

Tea1Sugar Mon 15-Jul-13 11:16:11

I'm going to poas on thursday before I go to my friends birthday dinner. The result will let me know whether or not I can drink! It'll be 12dpo. When is everyone else testing?

Luxlisbon82 Mon 15-Jul-13 11:23:40

Af due friday so prob sat if it doesn't turn up! getting nervous

EnglishBreakfastTea Mon 15-Jul-13 11:27:23

Hi Tea1sugar, [wave!] I think I'm going to try and wait until at least Friday morning although my sensible side knows that will prob be BFN as AF isn't due until Sun - never done it before though so I'm a bit excited! You must let us know what your result is - fingers crossed for BFP! grin

TeaAndANatter Mon 15-Jul-13 16:41:49

Ugh - still no AF yet, but temps dropped to near my baseline. Get on with it body, this woman's ready for the next cycle!

Tea1Sugar Mon 15-Jul-13 18:05:01

Love all the teas on this thread. We're uber cool grin

Hello ladies!
Thanks for the reply, I thought it could be a later ovulation or early implantation, so hard to know! I'll update this month's activity with more details... then if I get a BFP it might be useful to another dodgy-cycle-symptom-spotter!
Cd 1-5 AF

cd 6,9,12,13,14 + 17,18 DTD

cd 19, 20, 21 Away on business, but got mild AF cramps in the night on 20 and 21.

cd 22 DTD and started getting mild achey boobs, like AF due but not as sore, v.mild.
cd 23 boobs still tiniest bit tender when I move them about. Did a OPK and it had NOTHING on it, no suggestion of a surge.
cd 24 DTD and sore boobs still!

The only other info might be a bit tmi. Due to DTD'ing a lot, and using conceive plus I got a wee bit of thrush, which I think made me miss the EWCM. There was a point in the shower I had a clean and thought... ehhh? What is this?! It was a weird mix of EWCM and the thrush-esque CM... was a weird combo and I do remember thinking it was like a horrid combo of both. DTD regardless... had to keep going! (Grim). That was cd14 I think. I have had no sign of EWCM since.

Good luck ladies! I'll be testing with internet cheapies when they arrive on Friday!

Tea1Sugar Mon 15-Jul-13 18:58:52

Blimey dp would ache if we dtd that much! We only managed cd 6,7,9,11,12 with the positive opk day 12 too. Today is cd22. I have one aching boob, threw up nothing but burning acid this morning it scared me tbh and lost my appetite. Doubtful but will poas on Thursday smile

Ooh Tea1, unless you have a history of randomly retching that wounds pretty good! I've been hoping for the tiniest bit of nausea as a sign, knowing full well the minute I get it I'll regret that wish... fingers crossed.

sounds! Not wounds! Oh god I teach English!

Tea1Sugar Mon 15-Jul-13 19:07:27

Ha! I'm a teacher too, year 5. Roll on next wednesday!

Agreed! Can't wait for the summer, if I am pg, then I can get through initial few weeks without beady eyes in the staff room and playground. IF. That's a big if. Boobs are still bloody sore as if I'm about to get AF, but it's waaaaaay too early for that, and I've never had boob-ish ov symptoms before (never really get ov syptoms, but never bothered looking before!). Have had occasional twinge on right side in that area, thought a little blast-thing might be burrowing in. BURROW!

Tea1Sugar Mon 15-Jul-13 19:26:25

We've had 5 go on maternity leave in the space of 4 months. Really makes me green eyed tbh. Nah I've never had ovulation pains/symptoms before or ever taken notice of my cm blush. Dd was conceived on the pill and I remained symptomless for 7 weeks!

Definitelysometime Mon 15-Jul-13 19:51:32

Evening all. Happy St Swithin's Day (40 days of sunshine ahead - hurrah!). How's the 2ww progressing for everyone? Slowwwwwwly?

AF due for me on Monday (22nd) but doubt I'll make it that long! No symptoms at all here though, so I'm not holding out much hope...

Luxlisbon82 Mon 15-Jul-13 22:49:25

Wow kittycat, I admire your dedication, hope you are rewarded for it!

I'm due af on Friday so just assumed I would test if I'm late, are tests really going to pick up anything before? I'm a bit out of touch as dc' s are 9 and 11 and pg testing in my twenties meant waiting till you were late?!

Writerwannabe83 Tue 16-Jul-13 07:55:58

Currently on CD 25 and my period is due on Sunday which I'm pretty sure will arrive.

I'm not having any early pregnancy signs - no implantation bleed, no sore boobs, no sickness etc etc. In fact, I don't feel any different to how I normally feel.

sad Quite disheartening really.....

Tea1Sugar Tue 16-Jul-13 17:08:15

Think I'm about for July. Poas today 10dpo and bfn. I'll test again on thurs if no Af but had cramps today so doubtful

Writerwannabe83 Tue 16-Jul-13 17:23:49

I just POAS - I have no idea, maybe because it was sitting there in my bathroom, looking at me.

I'm 8dpo and BFN.

So I'm not feeling very hopeful either sad x

Luxlisbon82 Tue 16-Jul-13 17:54:32

Ah guys, most of tests are rubbish at picking up early and 8/10 dpo is still early, some people don't even implant till 12 dpo therefore you wouldn't have any symptoms or release hcg for a few days yet and even then it would be low levels and poss not even pick up then!

I've had friends who have had to wait a week or 2 after af to get a positive, so don't get downhearted, you're still in with a chance- good luck.

Tea1Sugar Tue 16-Jul-13 18:06:31

Thanks smile iirc with dd who was conceived on the pill, I only got a bfp 5 days after my pill withdrawal bleed was due and I had loadsss of Af-like cramps in the lead-up!

TeaAndANatter Tue 16-Jul-13 18:35:22

I'm over and out for July guys. temps dropped from Friday ish, and the witch got me today, hours after POAES (peeing on an Expensive stick!). It was 5.5 weeks since mc, and 16 days after ov, so I though it was hopeful (despite the lowered temps), but it was not to be! See some of you on similar threads next month ;-)

Luxlisbon82 Tue 16-Jul-13 18:38:34

The af cramps were so bad with my first they ruined an amazing holiday in Barbados, I spent the whole time terrified I was going to come on in a bikini & as I wasn't ttc it took me ages to clock on and do a test weeks later. Oh for the days of ignorance and just discovering you are pg without all the stress and wondering!

Luxlisbon82 Tue 16-Jul-13 18:40:31

So sorry teaandanatter, hope you are feeling ok and looking forward to next month x

Definitelysometime Tue 16-Jul-13 19:13:05

Sorry to hear that teaandanatter. May August be your month. Nice chilled glass of Rose for you tonight!

Just how early can you test with a glimmer of hope that it's correct? 2 days prior to due AF? 3? None?

writer maybe you need to test early morning for a more accurate result? Not outta the game yet!

Luxlisbon82 Tue 16-Jul-13 19:40:30

Well the window for implantation is big, between 6 & 12 dpo so if you ov'd really early, had a long luteal phase and a v quick implantation there are chances you would get a positive before af, as some women do. This is so much rarer than the more common positive positive only after af is due.

the problem with testing early is you can never count on it as correct if it's a negative and you will have to test again and again as it is not definitive.

This would wind me up into a poas frenzy so I'm keeping well away till af is due, but I totally understand the need to, especially if your body is giving you signs.

sparkle9 Tue 16-Jul-13 19:50:30

7dpo (according to FF) and I caved and tested. Stupid really! Today I had a second temperature hike. This happened last month too along with some spotting but AF arrived 9dpo. This cycle is much more like a normal length one as it is heading to be 34-35 days rather than the very long ones I've been having since coming off the pill. I still have my fingers crossed for a BFP but I'm not holding my breath... On the plus side a BFN would mean that I can annoy my all-inclusive holiday drinks! Would rather have the BFP though.

sparkle9 Tue 16-Jul-13 19:51:03

Whoops should have said I tested BFN today...

Definitelysometime Tue 16-Jul-13 20:13:38

Thanks luxlisbon, really helpful. No symptoms at all for me, so I should definitely definitely wait. Am just getting carried away with hope!

Writerwannabe83 Tue 16-Jul-13 23:00:30

Definitely Someone:

Thanks for the advice - I'm just scared I'm going to get addicted.

I think the test I bought today was faulty though as even after about 2 minutes of peeing nothing happened on the stick - even the control window stayed blank. I had to shake it a little and turn it upside down to get things moving, lol. The Control window then worked but it was a big blank in the Test Window. It was horrible to see actually. sad

Writerwannabe83 Wed 17-Jul-13 07:53:52

Another BFN this morning sad

The good news though is that is was the last pregnancy test in the house so I can't be tempted to try again grin

I'm going to order myself some tests and not test again until they arrive.

My period will probably also have arrived by then too......

Luxlisbon82 Wed 17-Jul-13 08:02:15

No worries Definitelysometime, been reading up on it as was curious myself.

I think it's a symptom of the pg test you are supposed to be able to do four days early, but if you look on the box the statistics of getting a true result that early are so low. I just think they are are manipulating the hopes of us poor souls.

And many people get no symptoms, everyone is different but the hormones can take a while to start letting you know you are growing something inside you!

Definitelysometime Wed 17-Jul-13 22:03:19

Thanks luxlisbon. Still haven't tested and will do my best to hold out till Sunday. I'm sure i would have caved by now had I felt any convincing symptoms but all I have is extreme overheating. Kind of have to let rationality have that one and attribute it to the unbearable lovely warm weather.

Any more testing going on?

Definitelysometime Fri 19-Jul-13 07:53:04

Bollocks. I caved. BFN.

Luxlisbon82 Fri 19-Jul-13 11:19:21

Aw, sorry definitely, it's not over yet for you though!

Af due today, can't make up my mind if I feel like it's coming or not not as it's first month off pill, don't even know how long my cycle is. Was gonna test tomorrow but nervous to, I'm not sure if it's easier not knowing right now and see what happens. I think af arriving would be easier than bfn as I would know that's definitely it for this month.

Tea1Sugar Fri 19-Jul-13 12:25:48

I'm out until next month ladies. Af arrived yesterday but tbh pleased that it came back so quickly as its first month off pill I know it can take ages for some women, so feeling happy in a different kind of way smile. Fingers crossed cycle 2 is a good'un!

Definitelysometime Fri 19-Jul-13 20:31:18

Oh rubbish, sorry tea. Still as you say, great news your cycle is back so soon and so regular!

Lux your resolve is admirable! You must test tomorrow! I guess it's unlikely to conceive first month off pill (is it?!). But not impossible - pee on that stick and keep us posted!

Anyone else testing this weekend? I still have another test in the pack and will try to hold out till sun/mon. But, lets be honest, that's unlikely!!

Writerwannabe83 Sat 20-Jul-13 00:10:54

I will be POAS in the morning - just like I have done for the previous 4 days grin

My period is due this weekend so I'm going to keep POAS until either it arrives or I get a BFP grin

Definitelysometime Sat 20-Jul-13 05:30:17

Woke up super early for first morning pee and just stuck a stick in it. Sleepily checked said stick 3 mins later - oh bloody hell, it's a BFP! 1-2 weeks. I just can't believe it!

Writerwannabe83 Sat 20-Jul-13 09:53:08

OMG - that's brilliant !!!


Another BFN for me sadly angry

Definitelysometime Sat 20-Jul-13 10:17:07

Thanks writer - cant quite believe it! You're still in the game. What test are you using? I got BFP on clear blue digital. Did a Tesco digital with next pee and got BFN. Hoping the first one is the accurate one?. Will be buying some more today, that's for sure!

Weird thing is that I don't feel any different at all. No sore boobs, tiredness, thirstiness. Nowt. Really hope it's not too good to be true...

Writerwannabe83 Sat 20-Jul-13 10:22:27

I just don't know what to think - the tests I'm using are cheap, flimsy pieces of card and crap, haha grin - I'm going to buy some better ones today, proper plastic ones with windows and everything grin

My period is due tomorrow-ish so if I haven't got a BFP by now then I don't see how I ever will seeing as you are supposed to be able to get results up to 4 days prior to AF.

I don't know why I keep tormenting myself by testing sad

Tea1Sugar Sat 20-Jul-13 10:42:35

Writer - is it your first month? If so please don't torment yourself so much so early on. I just had my first month off the pill and tbh delighted that my period returned so quickly as I know I'm "working". So if your Af does arrive see it as a good thing smile

Luxlisbon82 Sat 20-Jul-13 11:03:51

Yeaaaaah, definitely! Lovely news, pleased for you! You can't get a false positive, so the other test is prob less sensitive. Congrats! I'm sure the symptoms will kick in soon.

I'm really glad I didn't test, af arrived bang on time 28 days after my withdrawal bleed from last pill, so glad I didn't put myself through that rollercoaster as it was unlikely to happen straight off the pill. Glad things seem to be in order here and body is doing what it should. Bring on August!

Writer- step away from the tests and give yourself a break if it's stressing you out, if not pee away and I hope you get your results!

Writerwannabe83 Sat 20-Jul-13 11:19:57

Hi Tea1sugar

It is kind of our 2nd month. I had my Mirena removed at the end of May and when my first 'real' period arrived in June I was so happy as it meant, like you said, my body was working normally and so we could start TTC.

I just want it so desperately. The last 18 months of my life has been really tough due to health problems I've had with my heart and my epilepsy and all I was waiting for was for my conditions to stabilise so my Doctors would say I'm well enough to have a baby. When I got that 'go ahead' I actually cried sad And so now the time is here I just can't bear the thought of it not happening for me. One of my best friends gave birth 2 weeks ago and my other best friend just had her 20week scan - I am happy for them but I feel jealous deep down too.

and Luxlisbon - you are right, I need to step away from the tests. I have thrown my remaining ones away and I'm not going to buy anymore either. If AF arrives this weekend then such is life and I will just start again afterwards.

Luxlisbon82 Sat 20-Jul-13 12:13:42

Aw writer that seems like a nice healthy attitude, and you know what they say- 'healthy mind, healthy uterus'... they do say that right? Either way you've done all you can so all the peeing won't change the end result, I hope it's a positive on for you when you do test, fingers crossed x

internationallove985 Sat 20-Jul-13 13:06:10

The first day of my last period was 4 July and my next period is due on 1st August so I guess I'm in my 2ww. I must confessed I have already worked out the due date of my little bundle (that's if I am pregnant) 10 April 2014 Does anyone do this. xx

internationallove985 Sat 20-Jul-13 13:07:12

Sorry should have said "Does anyone else do this. xx

Definitelysometime Sat 20-Jul-13 13:43:47

Sorry to hear you've had a difficult time writer. I really hope it happens for you soon. Def get a more sensitive test. It's rare to get a positive early, especially on a cheap test. I have two pregnant friends that both got BFN on the day AF was due and only got their BFP days later.

If not this month, it's still early days. Keeping fingers crossed for you.

I've bought another CB twin pack today so I can double check tomorrow!

And yes, internationally. I only got my BFP a few hrs ago and have already worked out what would be due date confused

Asking for trouble!!

Definitelysometime Sat 20-Jul-13 13:45:32

And thank you lux for the congrats! Your post really made me excited smile..

Sorry to hear AF got you but does mean you're on track for August!

Have a lovely weekend all.

internationallove985 Sat 20-Jul-13 13:47:26

Congraulations Definatleysometime. When is your little miracle due. xx

Tea1Sugar Sat 20-Jul-13 16:36:00

Writer - If its just second month off mirena, don't be convinced that af will definitely arrive this weekend. Many people have very haphazard cycles for months after hormonal contraception. Sending you luck though smile

Writerwannabe83 Sat 20-Jul-13 16:42:09

I've just had two faint BFP lines on two separate brands of pregnancy tests!!! grin

I'm not relying on just yet - but it has still made me a little bit excited!!!!

Writerwannabe83 Sat 20-Jul-13 18:28:37

I've just been to ASDA and bought another two (better quality) tests, one of which is a Clear Blue and they both showed BFP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Definitelysometime Sat 20-Jul-13 21:53:16

WRITER!! Amazing news!!!! Congratulations!! I told you cheapest were rubbish - that's not morning pee either!! grin grin

Writerwannabe83 Sat 20-Jul-13 22:02:26

The next two I bought were BFPs too!!!

I've had 6 BFP's today and 2 positive OPKs too!!!


I totally can't believe it though!!!! grin

internationallove985 Sat 20-Jul-13 22:08:16

No disrespect to you at all winterwannabe but I have to ask this "How many more times are you going to test before it finally sinks that you are pregnant,a positive test cannot be wrong, but then I don't know why I'm passing any comment because in short it's none of my business and besides I'm not paying for the tests. x

Writerwannabe83 Sat 20-Jul-13 22:16:42

You don't know my circumstances and you don't know how much it means to me to be pregnant so I will pay for and take as many tests as I want to grin

Absolutely NOTHING is going to bring me down from my high, so don't waste your time trying to bring negativity smile smile smile

internationallove985 Sat 20-Jul-13 22:37:51

I'm not going to say too much as it is not my style to upset a pregnant women, but lets be honest you don't know my circumstances either and how much being pregnant will mean to me.
I am not trying to bring negativity. Perhaps it looked like I was a bit jealous in my last comment, and if it did then I apologise may be I am,do I dare say somewhat jealous. I don't think I think it's jealousy though it's more inferiority. but I shouldn't be as I might be pregnant myself, but I wont till after 1st August that's if A.F doesn't arrive. x

internationallove985 Sat 20-Jul-13 22:40:03

Also it's ignorant to my future bundle of joy to think that he/she is not going to come alone. B.T.W congratulations!!!!! x

internationallove985 Sat 20-Jul-13 22:40:49

sorry alone should have said along. I hate the way you can't edit these posts. x

Luxlisbon82 Sat 20-Jul-13 23:00:32

No disrespect to you international, but writer has every right to pee on as many sticks as she wants and to discuss this with us if she so wishes.

As a woman ttc, I would hope that you would have the empathy to understand her reasons for doing so and see how the reassurance of a confirming line would mean a lot. I'm frankly shocked that you find it appropriate to comment so disparaginly on this, maybe try to be a little more understanding. We are here for support, not to put people down.

Luxlisbon82 Sat 20-Jul-13 23:02:07

.disparagingly. stupid keyboard.

internationallove985 Sat 20-Jul-13 23:08:42

Hi Writerwannabe. Sorry I've been calling you winterwannabe all this time. x
Luxlisbon82. I have well sort of apologised once I'm not doing it again. Also I have the right to expect support and not not be put down either. x

Writerwannabe83 Sun 21-Jul-13 00:34:08

And yet another thread turns into another episode of the "International Show"


internationallove985 Sun 21-Jul-13 00:41:37

Ha ha credit where it's due writerwannabe that comment was a good one liner and made me laugh. x

CityGal29 Sun 21-Jul-13 00:56:40

HIya can I join?
In not ttc no 3 but think I maybe preg..
5 :- 6 dpo bad backache
6 dpo brown wiping
7 dpo stabbing pain on right hand side.

Hmm be due 5 April fertility friend says!! When can I test with early one??

Good luck everyone !! Anyone else with 2 other children grin

internationallove985 Sun 21-Jul-13 01:12:17

Hi Citygal29. Welcome aboard. I have an angel and a d.d. I have been trying to conceive since April. Also I have pains on my left side as well, but didn't think much of it (I tend to just ignore pains, stupid I know) so fingers crossed who knows fingers crossed it could mean I may be announcing good news soon. I've worked out my due date if I am pregnant I can expect my little bundle of joy on 10/4/14. Can I make a right fool of myself though and ask what is dpo. x

Luxlisbon82 Sun 21-Jul-13 05:23:50

Ha writer, I'm stepping away from all flammable substances! Massive congrats anyhow, I'm glad all the peeing was worth it.

Hi citygal, I have 2,
how many dpo are you now?

Vikkijayne2507 Sun 21-Jul-13 09:40:08

Dpo is days past ovulation. I am on day 2 am already willing the days away

internationallove985 Sun 21-Jul-13 09:46:02

Thank you vickyjayne. xx

CityGal29 Sun 21-Jul-13 19:07:58

Hiya think I'm 7/8 dpo, cycles can be 27/28 days. Did a pg test at lunchtime and neg but way too early, just a bit stupid!!

Think as DH was panicking about the impact etc wanted to know but it's 7 days before so no test would pick it up?

Left side pains sound promising!! Good luck!!


Nottalotta Sun 21-Jul-13 19:38:03

Excuse my complete ignorance - when can you reliably test? On a 28 - 30 day cycle? New to all this......

Writerwannabe83 Sun 21-Jul-13 20:15:56

I started testing a week before my period was due. This is because some tests can detect the pregnancy hormone as early as 6 days post ovulation, which is typically a week before your period is expected.

I didn't get my BFP's until the day before my period was due though x

Hi ladies, been lurking in this thread as I'm in the same position as you all.

AF is/was due tomorrow or Tuesday. I couldn't wait and took a clear blue test Wednesday morning which was 1-2 positive. I'm over the bloody moon!

BUT I can't stop worrying about chemical pregnancy which I've read about. Is it common? I'm freaking myself out and just can't relax thinking AF is going to appear tomorrow.

Congrats for you guys with BFP, lovely to read down and see you got it smile

Writerwannabe83 Sun 21-Jul-13 21:06:54

I've been worrying about chemical pregnancy for most of the day - I have actually taken 5 pregnancy tests in order to try and reassure myself.

Everyone told me to just relax, so that's what I'm trying to do.

Just stay positive and enjoy each day of being pregnant - as a wise owl said to me earlier smile

Thank you Writer. Yes must chill out! No point winding myself up over something I can't control.

Definitelysometime Sun 21-Jul-13 22:06:04

Hi clutching. I'm just the same - got my BFP yesterday but convinced it must be a chemical. Don't feel at all pregnant. I'm sure I'll miss this feeling though when the sickness kicks in grin

Here's hoping for a healthy 9 months and bouncing babies for us all!

Vikkijayne2507 Wed 24-Jul-13 07:22:57

grr im annoyed stupid oh ex rang up ill and so had to rush around this morning to get oh and step son to airport, i was so panicked forget to do bbt grr all her fault smile moan over.

Im on 5dpo not much to report yet other than coming off the pill made my boobs grow they are sore during ov but since yesterday they feel large and very hard not had that before oh noticed and asked if its a sign of pg I said maybe but its wayyyyyy too early I think my body is finding out what its wants to be off of the pill so i wait and wait and wait

Vikkijayne2507 Wed 24-Jul-13 07:23:28

congrats btw guys very exciting

Justpenny Thu 25-Jul-13 00:25:43

Hi everyone! Mind if I join in too?? came off the cerazette pill a couple of months ago, was still being careful tho, but 2 weeks ago had a week's worth of unprotected sex. I think im due on in the next few days (am really irregular since the cerazette), but for the last week my boobs have been really sore, and today my back has started aching. I know it's WAY too soon but i've already done 5 tests and all a big fat NO-NO sad i've spent the last few days googling the life out of how long i should wait to take a successful test but seriously cant wait!!!!! so glad to see im not the only impatient one tho!!! Congrats to everyone who got positive results....really hope i get one soon too!! xx

MightyQuin1201 Thu 25-Jul-13 23:31:34

Hello! 9dpo.... Ttc #1
I'm feeling pretty premenstrual right now- AF due in about a week, so this month could go either way... Just gave up smoking a couple of weeks ago and the cravings completely left me about a week ago though... Is that a good sign?

I have 32 day cycles... Can anyone tell me if they think I could be pregnant? grin

Tea1Sugar Wed 31-Jul-13 15:06:43

Right I'm back in for cycle2! 1dpo now, really hoping this is our month. Fingers crossed! Bfp/Af is due whilst we're away, 2 days before we fly home but have packed some cheapy sticks smile

KittyKK Wed 31-Jul-13 15:13:13

I'm 4/5 DPO....first cycle. Started off feeling +ve and excited, but worrying now. Feels like a lottery of sorts!

Good luck all x

Tea1Sugar Wed 31-Jul-13 15:29:31

Same kitty, how many times did you manage to dtd? We only did cd7,9,11 and ovulation day on 13

KittyKK Wed 31-Jul-13 15:41:23

Hi Tea - we DTD on CD 10, 14, 15 and 19....O'd on CD 16/17.

If this cycle doesn't work for us, I'm kidnapping DH for a holiday next time I O ;) His early morning meetings and late night conf calls don't fit with the baby making schedule that I'm planning lol

Keden Wed 31-Jul-13 19:46:04

Newbie here...DefinitelySometime & WriterWannaBe...CONGRATS!!! Clicking through each page of this thread was very suspenseful, and I cheered when I saw your news. I wish the same success to others :-)

My summary;

Dec-12; Stopped taking the pill & started stalking Mumsnet talk.

Jan-13; Started folic acid + daily vitamin, but intentionally avoiding pregnancy (wanted to give my body a shot to revert to "normal" after so many years on the pill)

May-13; Started charting seriously (had been keeping track on an app), but added basal temperature and CM readings at this point, to make sure I really know what's going on with my body.

Jul-13; Actively TTC. I ovulate tomorrow and have DTD Sun, Mon, Tue and will do so again later tonight for good measure!

So yep...guess I am on the 2ww train also. Good luck to all!

Keden Wed 31-Jul-13 19:47:19

Oops forgot to add this is my first time TTC. Been married for 4yrs and finally decided it's time.

ArkadyRose Thu 01-Aug-13 00:03:52

pulls up a chair Hello ladies, I'm here for the 2ww too. 2dpo by my reckoning, CD11 - been dtd nightly since Sunday, so now we're just waiting and hoping this one's caught.

Tea1Sugar Thu 01-Aug-13 07:43:40

All fingers crossed for all of us.

Shall we start a stats poas list:
Tea1sugar ttc#2 cycle 2 poas 11 aug

TeaAndANatter Thu 01-Aug-13 13:50:33

Hi Tea, good to see us both back for the 2ww - cycle 2 (the revenge!)

TeaAndANatter ttc#3 (+1mc) cycle 2 poas 11 aug-ish

ArkadyRose Thu 01-Aug-13 13:55:47

Adding mine:
ttc#4 (+4mc) cycle 2 poas 13th Aug (ish - if I don't get impatient and start from 9th.... ~looks shifty~)

KittyKK Thu 01-Aug-13 14:00:05

And me....

KittyKK TTC#1 Cycle 1....POAS 9th August

bushprincess Thu 01-Aug-13 14:36:31

Hi all! also on the 2ww... came off the minipill on the 24th June so still a bit unsure of cycle (though had always been pretty regular 28 day before the pill)... supposedly could poas on the 10th Aug... but might try and hold off till the 14th (because of uncertainty about cycle).... haha... lets see if I have the will power eh?!!

bushprincess TTC# Cycle 1.... POAS 14th Aug

good luck everyone!!!

bushprincess Thu 01-Aug-13 14:37:33

opps - thats TTC#1

Tea1Sugar Thu 01-Aug-13 14:42:28

Yay hi tea grin this WILL be our month. Promise!

TeaAndANatter Fri 02-Aug-13 19:55:22

Don't doubt it for a second, sugary tea! Actually, I'm feeling lucky for a September BFP, don't know why, but I'm not holding out a lot of hope just yet. Probably because my cm is still not quite as eggwhitey since mc as it used to be (doing serious grapefruiting!), but I can cross all my digits for you this month whilst I'm pretending not to care! grin

Gingerandcocoa Sat 03-Aug-13 10:23:46

Hello ladies...
I'm on cycle 2 of TTC my first.

I don't know when I ovulated (used the Boots tests but didn't get one single positive result), or IF I ovulated, but I can't imagine why I wouldn't have? I don't think I have PCOS and my cycles are quite regular (normally between 26-28 days). I didn't really feel ovulation pains this month though, and I normally do. DTD quite a few times when I should have ovulated.

Now about 5-7 DPO (who knows), and don't really have any symptoms. I'm not very confident this is the month, but still hoping!!!

Also, if I don't get pregnant this month, I think I can only try one more month and then have to have a "break" for 4-5 months, because my brother is getting married abroad next year, and I have to be able to go to his wedding...

ArkadyRose Mon 05-Aug-13 08:42:58

Currently on CD15, 6po. Definitely know I ov'd on the 30th as I had ewcm that turned watery, mittelschmerz (very left-sided) then it changed to the thicker creamy stuff from Thursday.

Been getting a lot of cramping since Saturday night, so on impulse I poa-opk-s this morning (just one of the cheapy opk sticks I bought off Amazon). This far post-ov I'd expect it to be negative - but there was a faint line.

Trying not to read too much into it, as the symptoms of early pg are very hard to tell from the ones I get leading up to AF, but with all my pregnancies I pretty much knew almost straight away. I'm not sure if I trust my body enough to tell me what's going on after 4 mc though. Think I may be poas on Friday though, and wondering if I'll get my BFP? ~fingers tightly crossed~

Keden Mon 05-Aug-13 12:00:38

5DPO....no symptoms yet, though there has been the occasional breast-twinge here and there. Not sure if it means anything though. Going to try and hold off POAS until at least the 1st day of AF (August 14).

snoozysleeper Mon 05-Aug-13 16:12:24

hi all, can I join too?

am now on the 2ww also (I think hmm )
been on the implant for many years and this is my first cycle of TTC #1
very excited but a little unsure as to ovulation day because when I was on the implant I didn't have periods so couldn't chart cycles and this is my first cycle now.

I've gone of regular average dates and that would make my ovulation day 4th August so I would be 1dpo now...I had a small amount of EWCM on cd 11 and cd 12...not really sure what that means though and Dh and I have dtd on cd 6,7,8,9,10,11,13,14 but think we'll have a break tonight blush

congratulations to those who did get their bfps grin

Keden Mon 05-Aug-13 16:57:07

Dh and I have dtd on cd 6,7,8,9,10,11,13,14

Wow! That's really impressive. And welcome aboard too smile

Writerwannabe83 Mon 05-Aug-13 18:12:19

Bloody hell Snoozy!!!!!!!!!! grin

snoozysleeper Mon 05-Aug-13 19:20:59

haha thankyou keden and writer we figured whilst we didn't really know my cycle that well we should just get to it blush but also I'm visiting family tomorrow so we will be apart for a few days but fingers crossed anyway!!

Gingerandcocoa Mon 05-Aug-13 20:21:40

Snoozy now I'm feeling like we didn't do enough - and I was exhausted from DTD 5 times during my fertile period :P

I was too weak and POAS today... even though I'm still at least 7 days before AF... so not sure what I was expected, but not surprisingly got a BFN...

I am however getting light cramping on and off throughout the day, though I'm not sure whether I'm just symptom-spotting!!!

snoozysleeper Mon 05-Aug-13 20:37:01

ginger I'm sure five times is enough if it's meant to be, I'm not even at the POAS stage yet so who knows what will happen

try hold off testing for a few more days and sending you lots of baby dust flowers

nearlyanurse Mon 05-Aug-13 20:52:58

Ladies, mind if I join you? Have been TTC for almost a year now, and am currently on CD24 of 30-32 (with the odd 40 day cycle, just to wreck my head). Live apart from mr nurse, so timing is hit and miss, depending on whether or not we're together.

BUT...had some spotting this morning, which I had totally written off until a lovely lady on another thread got me thinking it might be too early for AF spotting, so here I am, waiting. Again. Oh the joys.

On the upside, I haven't imagined any symptoms this month, unlike previous months, where I had every early preggers symptom going. So who knows. Am gonna try and hold off testing until at least 14th, but we'll see how that goes...

Gingerandcocoa Mon 05-Aug-13 22:17:38

nurse, that sounds very promising!!! everytime i pee i secretly hope there will be some spotting lol!

hope this month is your lucky month!!!! maybe I will join you and not test until 14th (and hope AF doesn't show up before that)

nearlyanurse Mon 05-Aug-13 22:21:43

Ginger, I'll commit to not testing until the 14th if you do it with me, shall we spit on it? <grogs into own hand>

Gingerandcocoa Mon 05-Aug-13 22:28:51

Yes I will commit to it!!
<stretches out a damp hand>

No POAS until 14th August!

nearlyanurse Mon 05-Aug-13 22:36:39

will feel rotten when I cave before the 14th now Brilliant, I'm gonna have to deliberately put any tests I stumble across out in the car (I live 4 floors up in a flat - aint no way I'm going all the way down to the car prior to a pee), and avoid all shops between now and then!

PS, I currently have a head cold, so you might wanna go and wash your hands pronto. Just realised when I put my nurse head back on!

Gingerandcocoa Tue 06-Aug-13 12:51:27

I've asked my husband to hide the OPKs and only let me test on the 14th... same as I do with the chocolates

Writerwannabe83 Tue 06-Aug-13 13:06:17

Ginger - me and my hubby only DTD 3 over the space of a week during my fertile window and afterwards I was kicking myself because I felt like we hadn't done enough. However, we still got a BFP so hope is not lost!!!

It only takes one time after all.... smile

Good luck to everyone x x

Gingerandcocoa Tue 06-Aug-13 14:22:30

writer did you get any symptoms before your BFP???

Writerwannabe83 Tue 06-Aug-13 16:01:58

I got my BFP on Saturday 20th July.

On the previous Monday when I was 7 dpo I felt absolutely exhausted. There was no reason for it at all and I was just drained of all energy. It lasted about 2 days and then completely went away. One of my colleagues joked that I might be pregnant but I laughed it off.

However, I noticed over the course of the week that I also seemed to be going the toilet all the time. I was having wee, after wee after wee. It was when this started happening that I began to wonder.

On the Friday night, the eve of my BFP my left boob felt very achey - but I thought it was because my bra was just digging in. I actually took a test that night as I knew my period was due at the weekend and it was BFN.

I took another test on Saturday morning with my first urine of the day and that came back as BFN too. However, at 4pm I tested again and got my BFP grin

snoozysleeper Tue 06-Aug-13 17:56:59

ooh congratulations writer I must have missed this flowers

thank you for your story too, I will try not to use it to help me symptom spot!! shock

Gingerandcocoa Tue 06-Aug-13 20:00:59

I do kind of regret asking you, as I've now convinced myself I'm really tired or it could be just from working for 7 hours and studying for 3

ArkadyRose Tue 06-Aug-13 20:19:12

Just leaving this here.... grin

Peestick Paradise

Writerwannabe83 Tue 06-Aug-13 21:08:39

That's brilliant!!!!!! grin

TeaAndANatter Tue 06-Aug-13 21:24:16

Wow. That lady is committed! I raise my sticks in a 21 stick salute.

Writerwannabe83 Tue 06-Aug-13 21:33:46

Ever since getting my BFP I have taken about 12 further pregnancy tests just to make sure grin including one this morning

I think I do it because I just love seeing that 2nd line appear because it takes me back to the first time I ever saw my BFP grin

do I have mental health problems?

Gingerandcocoa Tue 06-Aug-13 22:13:19

I'm definitely buying shares in those peestick manufacturers!!!

I'm glad DH hid the tests, I'm home alone tonight and after two episodes of one born every minute I really feel like POAS....

Writerwannabe83 Tue 06-Aug-13 22:16:06

haha - I had a secret stash and still do grin

nearlyanurse Tue 06-Aug-13 23:15:50

Don't do it ginger, step away from the loo!!!

Positivementakattitude Tue 06-Aug-13 23:49:34

Hiya ladies loving all the posts on this thread - congrats to writer wannabe and definelty sometime

Well I am tearing my hair out AF due thurs so one day technically done the clear blue digital ovul kit and when I gave up on day 21 after 1st day blank circle and 7 days flashing smilyI then used one of my 2 sticks left on cd 25 actually tried another one and got a blank smily so peak days could they be the 2 days I missed ?

DTD 8-20every day and then 22 & 24 and 25

AF usually 28 days but mc last month and only cycle since maybe what's messed timings up have tried 2 tests bfn crazy as until mc didn't know was preg conceived without trying now its my every thought this wait is killing me

Cramps and back ache today just hoping not period pain and BFP coming soon !

When should I so next test ? 11th jul Was last bleed

I am also night owl sorry in advance, relieved to be able to express exact thoughts on here all friends on 2/3rd pg friend currently in labour so not beat placed to understand xxx

Thanksa ladies


TeaAndANatter Wed 07-Aug-13 09:56:57

Feeling grumpy this week. Moved from feeling very sad about the miscarriage to feeling sad mixed with episodes of displaced rage about the mc. Grump, grump, grump. Due to POAS 11/12th, but feeling like it's not going to happen. Grumpy, grump, grump. Buh!

Also feeling chunky monkey, so feel like I ought to reduce the ass-age, but love food very much (I'm size 10, but my thighs are making a bid for world domination this year). Grr.

2ww can go boil it's head. Why isn't there an unreasonably cross emoticon?!

Positivementakattitude Wed 07-Aug-13 13:50:33

Tea and natter sorry to hear of your loss and yeh I know the feeling very grumpy as dreaded AF due and dreading the reminder of mc in July (last time had anywhere near AF)

Torture and days going so slow now typical need to try snap out of it but know when I see read ill either be an emotional mess or a dragon b*itch from hell !!! Not sure which I would prefer prob both knowing me

Wish there was an emoti to even show half what I feel right now men get easy but but then dealing with me I feel for him

Sending big hugs and smiles we will get through xxx

Positivementakattitude Wed 07-Aug-13 13:52:27

See red not read sorry lol

snoozysleeper Wed 07-Aug-13 18:28:38

I know more versatile emoticons would be good! Sending hugs to tea and positive smile

Gingerandcocoa Wed 07-Aug-13 19:20:57

positive and tea, hope you find ways to take your mind off of pregnancy related things (at least when you're not on MN!)

I went to a meeting for 1.5 hours today and didn't think of whether I'm pregnant or not not even once!!!

internationallove985 Wed 07-Aug-13 21:43:13

Hi Gingerandcocoa. I agree you shouldn't let ttc take over your life. Easier said than done, no argument there. I avoided coming on here for a few days as was at a really ebb and I was getting very envious of all the b.f.p.s (God that sounds terrible doesn't it) but now the witch has cleared off I'm feeling much more positive. x

Positivementakattitude Wed 07-Aug-13 23:11:08

Thanks snoozy and gingerand cocoa yeh I am thinking about it too much but mainly as tomorrow is period due day and in the day luckily very distracted as run my own business and moving office sept so very very busy and my other half driving me up the wall as he off work

Even though not thinking about it it always in the back of your mind, I find anyway this is my first real time and month ttc no sign of the witch yet either.

International yes I feel your pain but hopefully out bfp will come soon and can join the club bfp do come and that should give us hope grin instead of envy possibly lol

We can all but try. Maybe I should add 5 my friends due in next 5 months one very good friend since school in labour as we speak envy is one emotion I am very familiar with but also glad not every woman has to go through this ! Xxxx

Gingerandcocoa Thu 08-Aug-13 07:12:59

It's just so crazy, because when you're avoiding a pregnancy you think that even if one time you have unprotected sex you are probably going to get pregnant... And now, I think the the 5 times I DTD during my fertile period aren't enough lol!!!!

ArkadyRose Thu 08-Aug-13 09:12:19

Even if you DTD every single day during your fertile period, apparently there's still only a 25% chance you'll fall pregnant.

My problem isn't the falling pregnant bit usually, it's the holding onto it afterwards bit. I suspect I'm one of those hyperfertile women whose body tries to hold onto every embryo, even the ones that would never ordinarily get as far as 4-5 weeks. So getting a BFP will just be the start of different stress. Trying not to think about that too much right now though.

Purplestorm83 Thu 08-Aug-13 11:14:41

Hi, my first post on this forum! I only started TTC this month, now half way through the 2ww - the first week wasn't too bad but I can't believe I've still got a week to go! I think part of my problem is lack of distractions - I'm a teacher, so not working at the mo. I agree with the people above who said to not let it take over your life - at least if I get bfn this time I'll be distracted by work next month so won't obsess so much!

snoozysleeper Thu 08-Aug-13 13:19:44

Welcome aboard all smile

I'm aware that 25% is the stat that is quoted for chance of conception per month in normally fertile couples...it seems like such a low figure sad

I don't see any harm in having sex more regularly, every day if you want to-- entirely up to you and what works for your relationship, I found this below on some late night googling...

"The finding, presented at the 2007 American Society for Reproductive Medicines Annual Conference, and which is of particular significance to couples facing challenges of conceiving, suggested that daily sex could increase the quantity of sperm produced and improve the chances of pregnancy.

The research, which suggested that sperm sitting in the body accumulates damage as it ages, indicated that if sperm is released in a steady stream, due to steady sex, the sperm that is ejaculated contains newer and less-damaged cells.

Australian researchers, looking at the sperm quality in more than 40 men whose wives had either failed to get pregnant through Invitro fertilisation(IVF) or had repeatedly miscarried, found that when the men had no sex for three days, their sperm contained high levels of DNA damage. Ironically, on testing the men after having sex every day for a week, the amount of damage dropped by a third.

Dr Abisola Abisoye-Ogunniyan, an embryologist, in an edition of Fertility Update, a publication by The Bridge Clinic, stated the significance of semen quality in couples facing challenges of conception.

According to the expert, one day of abstinence can cause at least 20 per cent reduction in the sperm count. So the longer the period of abstinence from sex, the poorer the sperm count.

He added: “But with sex at least three to four times a week, the chances of getting pregnant is higher if they meet that once a week or say at weekends.”

And then despite this there are studies showing how strong a factor stress is sad

I think if you spent long enough on the Internet you could find evidence either way , they also say don't dtd every day for longer than a week because it can adversely affect sperm count

I think you could drive yourself mad looking at stats on the Internet ... So my opinion is just to do what feel right for you and your partner flowers

snoozysleeper Thu 08-Aug-13 14:49:40

arkady it sounds like you've had difficulties before so here's hoping this time will be different for you flowers

And purple good luck for your 2ww, I think you're wise to be looking for distractions so not to get too obsessed --such an easy trap- -

TeaAndANatter Thu 08-Aug-13 16:18:15

Thanks Snoozy and Mentalkattitude (fab names!), and all else for advice. Usually relatively mellow about the conceiving, but the mc has made it feel a bit different this time round. Shoudn't grumble, lots of women on here have had awful late mc, and mine was first trimester, but I'm being an arseache this week. I sat next to a women on the train this week who was going to rub a hole through her dress if she stroked her pregnant tummy any faster, my work colleague is being rather precious about her (first) pregnancy (which is making me ratty and jealous), and everywhere I look pregnant women are breeding (ha - I meant that they were multiplying, rather than they are LITERALLY breeding!)

I'm off to snarl at my cat (not really) and surf stone fireplaces (ie look for them online, not a death wish at the beach) and to not even think about the whole sodding idea until POAS day on Sunday (should just pocket the £5 and wait til AF on Monday).

Crossing fingers for the rest of you, chaps x

snoozysleeper Thu 08-Aug-13 18:28:01

Oh tea I'm sorry you're having a difficult time at the moment, although I have to say your post with the bits about cat snarling and breeding pregnant women made me chuckle a bit...

Jokes aside though, seriously look after yourself and best of luck

Crossing fingers for you too smile

Positivementakattitude Thu 08-Aug-13 23:26:10

Wow snoozy at research I think google can be a night mare as always something on there to read!

Tea andnatter am sorry been thru the emotions you are too I had mc 11th July so rely do understand and there always seem to be so many baby's pregnant women baby ads I was with my friend last week who even took me down the baby isle sad lol at cat snarling mine keeps jumping on surfaces (kitten) and snarling would be polite way of saying it hahaa

Big hugs and thoughts with you we here if any when u need to unload xxxx

No witch yet so 1 day late now that's assuming usual 28 day cycle ...have you had a cycle since mc ? This is my first and sure I only ovulated last week x

snoozysleeper Fri 09-Aug-13 01:50:56

I'm in total agreement with you positive

Hoping this cycle works out for you !!

Gingerandcocoa Fri 09-Aug-13 08:51:00

nurse how is the no testing going??

I can't believe it's already Friday and I have managed not to test again! AF is really due on Monday, but as agreed I will wait until Wednesday to test (if AF doesn't show up on Monday of course :P).
I've been having light cramping for about 5 days now, but no other symptoms so I really have to put it down to symptom spotting....

I have to say I feel slightly lucky for having short cycles (26-27 days normally), as I've got less waiting to do!!!

TeaAndANatter Fri 09-Aug-13 09:20:03

Hi Positive, Yes I'm on cycle 2 since mc. I lost ours on June 11th (ish - I think? Didn't note the date. It was all a bit blurry at that time). I ov'd a week late first cycle. First period was an utter bloodbath, so be aware. Other mumsnetters had warned me in the mc thread, and it was good to know so I had extra stuff at work. Other women didn't get that bloodbath-ness, but good to be prepared, as it was a lot.
Ov'd on day 15 (as is usual for me) this cycle, so due Monday.

Ginger: I'm due AF same day as you (POAS buddies). I noticed my temps dropped three days before AF last cycle, so they were due to drop this morning, but they didn't (crossing everything for high temps tomorrow and Sunday too). Likely to be hot weather, getting up for wee and thus staying in bed 30 mins later to get to the 3 hour temp point etc etc . 26 day cycle bonzer! That's a whole extra cycle a year on me, jammy woman!

Positivementakattitude Fri 09-Aug-13 10:25:39

Thanks snoozy xx

And teaandnatter I am expecting the worst as so moody if AF does come I know it will be a horrible one and I didn't bleed much when I lost my little angel so held a lot of hope date - was my grand ads bday so will never forget the date know what you mean about blurry I found out preg and may have miscarried all same time and no scan until the 15th so kept hope it would be ok. Thanks for pre-warning I'm dreading it and been about 3 months since last AF really feel I have forgotten what even a normal one is like ! Yeh I obv'd week late too 2 days over now bfn yday only got one test left now so going to leave until 6 weeks after as nurse said next AF could take 4-6 weeks so another 2ww great ....never mind a chair I need a bed lol

No more poas for me for a while ...fingers crossed ur tempa don't drop Hun and bfp ASAP xxxxx

Gingerandcocoa Fri 09-Aug-13 10:30:50

lol @ "jammy woman" smile

Tea I've not done any temp charting yet. Might start next month if not successful this month... Do you have any useful links as to how to take the temp?? Can you just use a normal thermometer?

Positivementakattitude Fri 09-Aug-13 10:39:12

Wow snoozy at research I think google can be a night mare as always something on there to read!

Tea andnatter am sorry been thru the emotions you are too I had mc 11th July so rely do understand and there always seem to be so many baby's pregnant women baby ads I was with my friend last week who even took me down the baby isle sad lol at cat snarling mine keeps jumping on surfaces (kitten) and snarling would be polite way of saying it hahaa

Big hugs and thoughts with you we here if any when u need to unload xxxx

No witch yet so 1 day late now that's assuming usual 28 day cycle ...have you had a cycle since mc ? This is my first and sure I only ovulated last week x

Liquidambar Fri 09-Aug-13 10:52:05

Hi ladies. May I join you? This is my first month ttc#2 and I'm finding the 2ww very difficult. I don't remember being so anxious when I first ttc.

also,I'm not sure if I've ovulated this month... all the opks were negative but I only started testing a bit late... perhaps I've missed it.

Af is due on Tuesday. I don't think I'll be strong enough to wait until Tuesday. I might poas on Sunday. i know, a bit crazy wink.

Good luck to everyone.

Gingerandcocoa Fri 09-Aug-13 11:45:40

Liquid welcome smile

I'm in the same boat as in I don't know if I ovulated this month - no positive OPKs for me either, I had a 2nd line once but it was lighter than the control line.

Nurse and I have an agreement not to POAS until Wednesday so you're welcome to join us ;) I'm really tempted to POAS this weekend but if it's a BFN I will still have hope until AF day, so decided it's best just to say plus I can spend the money elsewhere

Gingerandcocoa Fri 09-Aug-13 11:45:51

say = wait

Eminybob Fri 09-Aug-13 11:54:02

Hi just joined the site and think I have found the thread that sums up my life! I have no patience at all and constantly symptom hunt. I think I have caused my own sore boobs by prodding them so much! Nice to know there are others in the same boat as me as everyone I know in real life seems to have gotten pg the minute they came off the pill!

TeaAndANatter Fri 09-Aug-13 12:07:07

Hi Ginger: I started with TCOYF by Toni Weschler (Taking Charge of Your Fertility). Get an old copy on Amazon for not much, and a digital thermometer (Amazon also). Digital are good, because shaking it down raises your temp if you forget to do it the night before. It needs to be accurate to .1 centigrade (I use c, so I don't know how accurate for farenheit). Mine does to .01, so that's grand, and costs about £3.
I love charting as it means I know exactly when I ovulate, so don't need to have so much sex (ha!). The pictures of cervical fluid are bot gross and totally wow all at the same time, and the pictures of cervixes helped me in the past to know when the ov ship had sailed, even without temping. It's fab!

TCOYF have a website too and a forum for questions (but feel free to ask here too).

Gingerandcocoa Fri 09-Aug-13 12:17:32

eminybob I just laughed because I have probably caused my sore boobs too, by feeling them up too much! i'm terrified I'll do it at work without noticing!!!

tea I have heard of that book before! Thanks for the tip. I'll wait until Tuesday to see if I get a BFP or not, and if I don't then ill definitely get that book!

snoozysleeper Sat 10-Aug-13 10:06:51


TeaAndANatter Sat 10-Aug-13 10:40:03

Thanks to Snoozy for finding our tread when it had disappeared from the forum for no known reason (creepy things at work!).

Had been trying to announce the arrival of the BFP (!) as I can't tell anyone else for ages. Crossing everything that this one's a keeper, and looking forward to reading everyone else's progress this 2ww.

ArkadyRose Sat 10-Aug-13 12:10:11

Congrats, Tea! smile

I poas this morning and got a very, very faint line. Am not 100% certain it wasn't just an evap line though.

Writerwannabe83 Sat 10-Aug-13 13:41:13

Brilliant News Tea!!!

And fingers crossed Arkady x

Gingerandcocoa Sat 10-Aug-13 15:18:52

Congratulations Tea!!!

Positivementakattitude Sat 10-Aug-13 22:45:56

Congrats tea that's great news and Arcady fingers and toes crossed for both of you, xxxx

Wahhhoooo excited for u both, the witch arrived for me today xx here's to next month xxx

internationallove985 Sat 10-Aug-13 22:57:34

Congratulations teaandanatter. I am back to trying to creating my georgeous little miracle xxxx

snoozysleeper Sat 10-Aug-13 23:25:04

Hi tea I couldn't resist congratulating you again!!

And fingers crossed for you arkady

Keden Sun 11-Aug-13 14:09:09

Congratulations TeaandNatter

Good luck to everyone else!!!

Still waiting to POAS. Wedenesday can't come fast enough!

TeaAndANatter Sun 11-Aug-13 16:37:49

Thanks everyone, and crossing fingers for Arkady (I personally always ended up with a BFP from a possible evaporation line, so very excited for you!). Sorry for those whose BFP is arriving late this month (i.e. coming next month), and fingers crossed for everyone still in the 2ww.

Positivementakattitude Sun 11-Aug-13 20:53:46

Thank you tea and natter let us know how you get along and congrats again xxx

Liquidambar Sun 11-Aug-13 21:15:12

congratulations Tea smile

I know Af is only due on Tuesday but I didn't resist and tested this morning. I used a clear blue one but of course it was negative. Oh well...

Since I didn't get a positive Opk last cycle I'm planning on charting. On the positive side, DH is happy with the idea of dtd on a very very regular basis.

I hope everyone had a good weekend and good luck for Monday.

snoozysleeper Mon 12-Aug-13 08:27:44

Ooh good luck for Tuesday liquid

I've got to wait til Sunday, I'm not suited to this waiting business ... confused

LittleMissPear Mon 12-Aug-13 15:58:19

Hi everyone, can I join u? I'm half way through the 2ww, AF due Tuesday 20th Aug. it feels like forever away smile it's all I can think about- not much work getting done today!
Any tips for distracting myself for the next week?

TeaAndANatter Mon 12-Aug-13 20:01:33

Come on in! No tips from me, other than frenetic mumsnettery, but welcome anyway.

snoozysleeper Mon 12-Aug-13 20:24:53

Hi littlemiss welcome, no real tips for distraction, I've found it really difficult and I'm on first cycle.... Your AF is due 2 days after me ... But I'm away from dh when AF due so might test around your AF date instead because I want him to be around, of course assuming the witch hasn't got me by then

snoozysleeper Mon 12-Aug-13 20:26:35

Other alternative is to test early hmm

ItalianWiking84 Tue 13-Aug-13 08:08:44

LittleMissPear what works for me is that my sticks say only FMU, so when I get up I go straight for the bathroom, pee, and then thats it for me that day. Because no reason to waist a stick, when it clearly says FMU. I know it sounds stupid, but it does work smile

Gingerandcocoa Tue 13-Aug-13 09:02:54

Ladies, quick question. When are you supposed to chart charting your bbt? When your period begins or after it ends?

snoozysleeper Tue 13-Aug-13 09:15:56

ginger I'm not doing this but from what I've read you start on cycle day 1 i.e. when your period starts

TeaAndANatter Tue 13-Aug-13 15:11:19

From period day 1 (which means that my period day 1 is charted on the end of my last chart, and the start of my next, as I'm not sure in the morning when I take the temp if the period will arrive that day or not, iyswim)

Gingerandcocoa Tue 13-Aug-13 16:53:13

Hmm today was period day 1 (sadly)... but I didn't know that when I woke up, so I didn't chart... will start tomorrow then!

anyway, I've finished my 2WW now... i'll be back next month!

Tea1Sugar Tue 13-Aug-13 17:07:32

Hi all how are we? Sorry been abroad so no net access. Got three bfps today though grin

Keden Tue 13-Aug-13 17:25:03

Congratulations Tea1Sugar!!!

I am testing tomorrow - can't wait!

I bought the ClearBlue Digital (2pck) and they are really expensive! So it's been a lifesaver in keeping me from testing too early :-b

snoozysleeper Tue 13-Aug-13 18:18:27

Congratulations tea1sugar !!! And good luck keden

ArkadyRose Thu 15-Aug-13 00:34:57

Congrats tea!

Pretty certain now it was an evap line. Tested again this morning and it was a definite bfn. AF is due on Friday, so I guess this month just wasn't a happener. I'll test again on Friday, but I'm expecting a bfn and AF on time. Ah well. Maybe next month. sad

snoozysleeper Thu 15-Aug-13 02:48:24

I'm sorry to hear that arkady, do test again on Friday and best of luck for it !

Keden Thu 15-Aug-13 02:52:23

Hello Ladies,

POAS today (14 DPO and AF due) and I got a BFN :-/

However, AF still hasn't shown yet. So will test again Saturday.

Arkady - don't give up yet! smile

snoozysleeper Thu 15-Aug-13 03:16:42

Keden best of luck for Saturday, until AF comes you're not out...

Tea1Sugar Thu 15-Aug-13 05:50:23

You're in with a chance until Af arrives!! I got a bfn day before my Af was due, I waited three days to test again and hey presto - 4 bfps grin

TeaAndANatter Thu 15-Aug-13 08:40:18

Woooooooo Tea! That's a full BFP house for the Tea contingency this month! Sorry for everyone still waiting/out for this month. xxxxx

Tea1Sugar Thu 15-Aug-13 09:53:24

Told you it'd be our month tea grin decaf now though hey?! Bleughh

TeaAndANatter Thu 15-Aug-13 11:34:37

I started on the decaff before the mc (so that clearly didn't work!), but I'm back on it now. Got used to the taste after about week. Would love some decaf Earl Grey, so May treat myself to a look for that if I make this one to 8 weeks. Being very anxious all the time, which surprised me, but the old timers on the PG after MC thread are well used to it and have lots of advice. Surprisingly pissy and grumpy rrather than joyous - don't want to tempt fate which hasn't stopped me buying a nice Mamas and Papas blanket

Tea1Sugar Thu 15-Aug-13 11:48:14

Sending loads of glue your way! My due date is 24/04 seems years away. When's yours?

ArkadyRose Thu 15-Aug-13 17:31:02

I bought a twin-pack of CB digis and one of FR. If AF doesn't show up tomorrow I'll try one of the FR ones; if I get a BFP with that I'll try one of the CB digis. If AF shows up on time, or the FR shows a BFN, I'll save the other tests for next month's round of trying again I think.

TeaAndANatter Thu 15-Aug-13 18:10:15

EDD? 21st April. If it sticks (crossing everything madly, and lurking on the PG after MC thread mostly where I don't give everyone a total downer by worrying all the time that this one'll bugger off too!)

Keden Fri 16-Aug-13 11:09:32

sad Well AFs made an appearance then. I'm out for August ladies. Better luck to those still hanging in there!

ArkadyRose Fri 16-Aug-13 12:11:33

BFN for me too. sad AF hasn't put in an appearance yet but is due today & I'm feeling crampy, so looks like I'm out for this month. Oh well, back to square one. sad

Tea1Sugar Fri 16-Aug-13 12:51:53

Best of luck for a May baby smile

snoozysleeper Fri 16-Aug-13 22:56:01

Sorry to hear that keden and arkady, here's hoping for may for you flowers

VJONES1985 Fri 16-Aug-13 23:02:16

Interested to read about decaff tea. I thought a small amount of caffeine was fine during pg but is it recommended that decaff is always drunk?

snoozysleeper Fri 16-Aug-13 23:07:31

I don't know but that is an interesting question! I hope someone out there knows the answer... I have I say I originally thought the same as you vjones

VJONES1985 Fri 16-Aug-13 23:11:30

Have just checked in a pregnancy book and it says 200ml of caffeine a day is fine so that's about two cups of coffee or three cups of tea.

VJONES1985 Fri 16-Aug-13 23:12:36

But bear in mind that chocolate and cola also contain caffeine.

ArkadyRose Sat 17-Aug-13 09:51:37

I usually give up coffee when pg, but carry on drinking tea. I've had 3 kids and they all turned out fine!

internationallove985 Sat 17-Aug-13 20:47:01

I was addicted to coffee when I was having D.D and all I could eat was chocolate.
On another note I'm back in my 2ww. DTD on the 9th 10th 14th 16th 17th (this morning) planning to on 21st 23rd 24th 28th and 30th August. A.F is due on the 31st. I hope she doesn't show up. xx

Writerwannabe83 Sat 17-Aug-13 22:04:20

How long have you been trying to conceive with your f*ck buddy??

internationallove985 Sat 17-Aug-13 22:13:08

Well I met him on May 17 so 3 months. xx

Writerwannabe83 Sat 17-Aug-13 22:14:22

How long are you going to give it before you trade him in???

internationallove985 Sat 17-Aug-13 22:31:03

How long's a piece of string or to put it another way I'm not too sure. However since he came back from his holiday we have got more close and communicated more although not close enough for me to be honest about hoping to get pregnant, (I'll be the first to say, that)
TTC with him could be a waste of time as for all I know he could have had a vasectomy but it's not the sort of thing you ask.
However 3 months is only early days most healthy couples can take between 6 months and 12 months to concieve so I'm not too concerned yet. Although when ever A.F arrives I get jealous of pregnant women and spend all my time getting emotional.
I'm trying not to get too obsessed but like most things in life that's easier said than done, but at least I have my D.D some poor women do not even get the chance to have one child. x

Writerwannabe83 Sat 17-Aug-13 22:38:58

You could always casually mention vasectomies??

Something like, "My friend's husband had a vasectomy today! Ouch!! Do you think you could ever bring yourself to do that??"


If he turns around and says he's already had one then at least you know!


How old is he? Not that it matters I guess, I know two guys who had vasectomies in their late 20's.

internationallove985 Sat 17-Aug-13 23:43:45

Well I suppose I could put it like that. As you say at least that way I'd know.
Also how are you. Have you started to get morning sickness yet. I had it from 7 weeks to up until my D.D was born. xxx

snoozysleeper Sun 18-Aug-13 01:15:36

I wish I could sleep better, AF not turned up yet but tested early today and was bfn so will test again in a few days if still no AF ....

On a separate note, other than asking straight I can't think of a better suggestion than writer has re: vasectomies

Best of luck for all still waiting

Writerwannabe83 Sun 18-Aug-13 08:40:45

I'm not too bad thanks International. Had a bit of a scare on Thursday with some bleeding but a scan showed a strong and healthy heartbeat. I'm just taking it easy this weekend and I haven't had any spotting since Friday night now. I haven't had any actual sickness but I feel nauseous and crap most days.

The best of luck getting your BFP Sleeper x x

ArkadyRose Sun 18-Aug-13 09:00:38

No AF yet, but tested again and still bfn. Wish it would hurry up and get on with it now. sad

JellyBeanDavey Sun 18-Aug-13 09:11:20

My 2ww starts today. Had a fixed smiley on Friday morning from dual opk and a normal smiley from (pink) opk yesterday. And clear circle this morning.

First time I've had proof of ovulation in a year so massive Fx!

Where is everyone at?

Writerwannabe83 Sun 18-Aug-13 09:57:46

Sounds promising Jelly Bean!!

The very, very, VERY best of luck to you grin

Writerwannabe83 Sun 18-Aug-13 09:58:37

When is your period due Arkady?

JellyBeanDavey Sun 18-Aug-13 10:04:11

Thank you writer smile how's your pregnancy going?

This morning my boobs feel so achey! Haven't had this is so long. My cycles must be getting back to normal! Though I say that, I'm on cd39.

ArkadyRose Sun 18-Aug-13 10:06:15

Writer It was due on Friday, so it's now 2 days overdue.

internationallove985 Sun 18-Aug-13 11:06:25

Hi writerwannabe I'm Really pleased that everything's fine. xx
Also Congratulations tea 1 sugar. I've only just noticed about your B.F.P. Keep your fingers crossed for me. xx

Tea1Sugar Sun 18-Aug-13 11:19:07

Thanks international smile Only 4+3 so very early days hope its a sticky one!

Writerwannabe83 Sun 18-Aug-13 11:53:28

Pregnancy is going well thanks Jellybean. My bleeding has stopped so my state of mind is much better smile

Normally I feel really crap everyday but I have woken up this morning with a bit of energy inside me so I'm making the most of it and getting some housework done. God forbid my husband would think to do it... hmm

LongTailedTit Sun 18-Aug-13 21:28:09

Please can I join the 2WW queue? Congratulations OP and others on your BFPs!

I'm 8 dpo, with another 4-7 days before AF is due - i'm really itching to do a test!
I've only had four cycles since coming off Nexplanon, the first three were 26 days, the last one was 31 days (same as before DS), so not sure if its worth trying a test this early. Plus DH goes away for the week on Tuesday morning, and I don't want to tell him over the phone!

I'm very tempted to do a test tomorrow morning...

snoozysleeper Sun 18-Aug-13 21:35:11

Hi longtailed welcome smile I think you're best testing at 10dpo...although dont let that stop you , lots of luck

JellyBeanDavey Sun 18-Aug-13 22:01:43

Welcome longtail. If you can hold off, I would to avoid disappointment, as implantation doesn't happen until 9-12days, so you won't get any symptom or HCG level until then. But like snoozy said, please don't let that stop you grin best of luck xx

LongTailedTit Sun 18-Aug-13 23:06:58

I think I should probably wait until DH gets back and test on Saturday morning, that's if AF hasn't already arrived.
This is only our first cycle TTC, but it only took three for DS so I reckon there's a chance!

ArkadyRose Mon 19-Aug-13 07:54:41

AF finally arrived, so that's me out for this month. Best of luck, ladies.

I am sorry to hear that Arkady, better luck for both of us next time!

snoozysleeper Mon 19-Aug-13 13:55:35

Ahhh arkady me too , fx for next month

AF got me overnight sad so onto next month for me, if the 2ww thread is still running I'll re-join then , I'm going to try keep having fun with it

Best of luck for all on 2ww

bushprincess Mon 19-Aug-13 15:04:50

sorry to hear that Arkady and Snoozy... I was so sure last month and then AF turned up early.. (at least she had the manners not to leave me waiting and hoping!!)... so now onto the second 2ww.... have lots to distract me (phd viva coming up quickly) so hopefully won't seem tooooooooo long!

good luck everyone!

VJONES1985 Mon 19-Aug-13 15:25:18

dips toe in the 2ww waters

Hi there. Got my first positive opk yesterday and another one today so I assume I'll be joining you guys in a day or so. This will be my first 2ww and am already dreading it. Part of me wants to test asap and part of me doesn't!

Snoozy I'll be joining you and Arkady again for next month smile

Welcome Vjones1985, and good luck with DTD these next few dayswink.

I was super good at NOT testing, and didn't test until the day AF was due. So take heart - you can do it too!

VJONES1985 Mon 19-Aug-13 16:24:11

Thanks keden :-) Anyone got any advice - is it best to dtd every day of a positive opk and also the day after, or what? Am also judging by looking at cm.

keepswimming1 Mon 19-Aug-13 16:51:36

If you can dtd everyday then that's what I would do - unless its going to put pressure on the pair of you of course.
The more swimmers the better smile

VJONES1985 Mon 19-Aug-13 16:54:00

Nah, we're enjoying it at the moment. My libido died a death when I was on the pill so it's a novelty at the moment! Daily dtd has no bad effects on sperm count, then?

JellyBeanDavey Mon 19-Aug-13 16:59:56

If you can dtd as much as possible do it wink plus sperm is at it healthiest the more it produced, so if its once-twice a day, then you have Olympic swimmers! A lot of people think if they leave it a couple of days and then go, that they will have more sperm. This is not true, sperm is actually tired and dying off sad poor spermies!

VJONES1985 Mon 19-Aug-13 17:06:32

Ha ha, poor spermies! Tonight will be the fourth or fifth time in a row so hopefully they're like little Olympians smile

VJONES1985 Mon 19-Aug-13 17:22:30

While we're on this topic, does anyone know - is it true that saliva kills sperm? If oral sex is involved in foreplay, could it really affect chances of conception? I didn't think the amount of fluid, err, exchanged would make a difference but I have heard something like that before...

Tea1Sugar Mon 19-Aug-13 17:44:01

Yes saliva should be avoided.

VJONES1985 Mon 19-Aug-13 17:48:13


helloelo Mon 19-Aug-13 18:00:21

Wait. Whaaaaaaat?!
(sorry, hi, I know I'm no a reg in this thread but...)
Sh*t! What do you mean saliva should be avoided? As in neither me or him should have oral foreplay (receiver / receivee - you know what I mean)? Oh God, I need a glass of wine.

VJONES1985 Mon 19-Aug-13 18:02:10

That's right...

JellyBeanDavey Mon 19-Aug-13 18:33:18

What the nugget!! No oral foreplay!! If wow that sucks!

JellyBeanDavey Mon 19-Aug-13 18:33:45

Oh... Excuse the pun! grin

VJONES1985 Mon 19-Aug-13 18:39:22

Heh heh. What a blow... ;)

helloelo Mon 19-Aug-13 19:27:46

Ok, I researched that a bit because TTC sex is already quite annoying without having to jump on the pole without greasing it first (er... yeah, I know what I mean).

Oxford Journals says that yes, saliva affects sperm mobility. But it needs to be taken with a pinch of salt. Concentration used in the lab (drowning mixing sperm and saliva in a Petri dish) was quite enormous compared to a little bit of spit left at the entry of the vagina after oral sex on a woman. And when we compare it to what would be left on the penis of a man after a BJ, well, that's just not comparable. Plus, don't forget sperm is shot up at a quite high velocity quite close to the cervix. Unless your DP's kink is to spit on your cervix, well, don't worry too much about it.

Don't forget, PreSeed is aggressively trying to sell their stuff and with the right budget, posting stuff everywhere that spiting is a no no but their lube is a yes yes is quite common.

Now, I completely respect the ones trying to be careful and not leaving any chance but my DP might go on a TTC strike if I stop the all mighty BJ so I prefer to carry on smile

VJONES1985 Mon 19-Aug-13 19:31:31

Ha ha! That made me laugh!

JellyBeanDavey Mon 19-Aug-13 21:10:14

helloelo you are my hero!

keepswimming1 Mon 19-Aug-13 21:49:10

excellent.. funny as.
I think we are all bonkers lol

VJONES1985 Mon 19-Aug-13 21:53:07

TTC sends you loopy...

helloelo Mon 19-Aug-13 22:01:45

Thank God your response is a positive one. Of course, TTC means I am bonkers too, POAS way too early for it to even mean something, doing headstands (literally), etc. but sometimes my scientific training kicks in, albeit almost never between 7DPO and 14DPO
Good luck everyone smile

snoozysleeper Tue 20-Aug-13 00:03:46

Interesting reading here tonight

bushprincess Tue 20-Aug-13 10:36:18

haha.. thanks helloelo for the info... glad that we don't need to worry too much on that account...DH needs all the encouragement he can get at the moment sad ...probably my fault for turning into a TTC nut job and demanding nightly performances!

fifi669 Tue 20-Aug-13 15:36:19

Think ov is over, entering TWW today.....

<twiddles thumb>

Now what? There should be some games to keep us occupied.....for two weeks.....

VJONES1985 Tue 20-Aug-13 17:01:49

Got third positive opk in a row today but much less ewcm than yesterday so I guess I'll be joining you guys tomorrow (?). Hope we manage to find a game to keep us occupied!

VJONES1985 Tue 20-Aug-13 18:46:47

Feeling negative today sad Until now I've been really positive but today I found out that a few days of positive opks could mean an LH surge but may not actually result in ov. So now I'm convinced it's not gonna happen sad

fifi669 Tue 20-Aug-13 18:49:34

Any LH surge may not result in ovulation, not everyone does every month. Don't panic!

VJONES1985 Tue 20-Aug-13 18:54:02

I know but it's my first month off the pill so was hoping it'd happen. Plus I've had other symptoms (sore nipples, lots if ewcm, something that looked like ov bleeding,feeling hot).

fifi669 Tue 20-Aug-13 18:56:58

The pill can take time to get out of your system, I don't know if you've already been told that? It can mess with your cycles. Hopefully yours will return to normal asap

VJONES1985 Tue 20-Aug-13 19:00:05

Yeah, I had been told that but thought all the signs of ovulation meant that I will actually ovulate. So bit sad to find out it may not mean that at all. Ah well, I'll get over it!

Tea1Sugar Tue 20-Aug-13 19:01:33

Vjones - relax! It's your first month! Lots of people (me included) don't ovulate the first month. I got my bfp the second cycle, if it doesn't work for you this month, sure it will the second.

VJONES1985 Tue 20-Aug-13 19:08:48

Sorry, just having a bad one today. I get carried away with symptoms and I know deep down they're probably just related to stopping the pill. Feeling emotional today, which doesn't help,plus sick, tired and hot. Please excuse me!! sad

VJONES1985 Tue 20-Aug-13 19:27:23

Tea - by the way, how do you know you didn't ov in the first month?

Refoca Tue 20-Aug-13 19:58:15

I'm just assuming I'm in here, as not temping etc. 21 day cycle means I'll be here more often than not anyway. Lol.

How's everyone getting on? Did we come up with a game?

In my 2ww I ate an Apple....

Tea1Sugar Tue 20-Aug-13 20:04:08

Well I'm not certain but I don't think so. My lh surge only lasted about 10-12 hours so doubtful. But my period came back on cd25 which I was pleased with. It meant I had a normal range cycle and knew where I stood.

VJONES1985 Tue 20-Aug-13 20:19:15

Yeah, I guess that's a good thing! Have had positive opk for three days now so fingers crossed.

Positivementakattitude Tue 20-Aug-13 23:40:57

Negative today aswell sorry u r too had 2 days faint line on opk sun and mon morn but last night and this morn no line can't really see is it possible to ovul day 9 and if so the ovul didn't go same colour

Gutted missed it again always catches me off guard x

Vjones1985 may I ask what type of OPK you are using? I think I missed that?

I bought the cheapie Wondfo OPKS (40 strips) and I am planning on giving the SMEP Method a shot this cycle.

Most curious about when to POAS for the OPKs. I Googled and lots of people are saying between 2PM and 8Pm is best. Have you found this true?


JellyBeanDavey Wed 21-Aug-13 08:46:43

Vjones What pill were you on? Relax, i was like you when i first started ttc and i was stressing out over the silliest things and googling... Never google! If you have a question --no matter how silly--talk to us! 9.9 times out of 10, we have all down it, had it , thought it smile Have you joined the auguest bus yet?

Keden Best time (was on the instructions i had) was between 8am - 10pm it said. And make sure your wee wee is cooled down. You can get evap lines.

JellyBeanDavey Wed 21-Aug-13 08:48:07

My spelling in that was awful. I do apologise lol x

Positivementakattitude Wed 21-Aug-13 09:49:05

I got cheap ones from amazon this month from life improve studio doesn't say a time and can't do at work so I do one in morn and one in evening about 9 ish when back from work. Maybe those where evap lines as was doing it straight away

Had a faint line again yday eve so hopefully its coming still my moods are so dependent on all this need to loosen up and remember dtd ing is the most important ingredient even tho ATM he's doing my fricking head in !


VJONES1985 Wed 21-Aug-13 10:02:18

Keden - been using cheap strips from Amazon, they just produce a dark line if positive. I used then in the afternoon for a while then switched to 11am and that was when I got the positive readings.

jelly - thank you for being so kind. I don't want to piss people off when I have so many silly worries. Anyway, I was on Ovranette for 12 years and had signs of ov for the last three days.

Thanks JellyBean and VJones1985!

I didn't realise you actually had to let the pee cool down confusedé

Yeah sounding more like something I'll just do in the evenings. Don't want to fuss about with pee cups and what not at work. Thanks all.

VJONES1985 Wed 21-Aug-13 12:03:47

Next month I will have to only do it in the evenings because I'll be back at work so hopefully I'll still get good readings then. Am considering giving up opks next month though as I had physical signs of ov so could just use them.

JellyBeanDavey Wed 21-Aug-13 12:27:11

Keden a lot of people don't know. Just saves you getting a false positive with a evap line x

layla1976 Wed 21-Aug-13 17:47:36

right i'm pulling up a chair on the dreaded 2ww ..... goodluck girls ...i'm 5 days past ov... and have imaginary symptoms etc...but its always a big fat no ...hopefully lots of BFP's for everyone this month!!! GOODLUCK!!!!!!

VJONES1985 Wed 21-Aug-13 17:51:02

Hi Layla. I'm 1dpo so obviously no symptoms for me. Thinking of testing next Saturday but I know I should wait a bit longer. Argh!

layla1976 Wed 21-Aug-13 18:19:09

i never seem to get ewcm..so have used special fertility lube that mimics it this month but i now have a uti so feel like crap...think i'm out this month too sad ....5dpo and counting...having tests on friday though to see if ov actually does take place or not...i'm 37 so need all the help i can get!!!....goodluck ladies and keep me posted...baby dust to you all....xxx

VJONES1985 Wed 21-Aug-13 18:21:30

Layla why has your doctor decided to give you that test? Have you been ttc for a certain length of time?

layla1976 Wed 21-Aug-13 18:22:14

Vjones1985... i know its hard but its always best to wait... i got a positive test a few years ago then a few days later it was negative...something called a chemical/spontaneous abortion or something...apparently it happens to 1 in a very small number of pregnancys , they just dont take..i would have just thought my period was late but instead i felt a huge loss...so wait if you can....goodluck though...try to keep busy....xxxx

VJONES1985 Wed 21-Aug-13 18:25:25

Ah right. So it was a few years ago but you're only having the test now? Good luck to you.

I am finding it hard to stay busy because I'm a teacher and so currently off work, but I know you're right!!

layla1976 Wed 21-Aug-13 19:21:26

i never seem to get ewcm..so have used special fertility lube that mimics it this month but i now have a uti so feel like crap...think i'm out this month too sad ....5dpo and counting...having tests on friday though to see if ov actually does take place or not...i'm 37 so need all the help i can get!!!....goodluck ladies and keep me posted...baby dust to you all....xxx

layla1976 Wed 21-Aug-13 19:25:49

ignore that same message...dunno what happened there?????? ... the hospital lost my tests a couple of times ad the tests are all about timing an it just seemed to have worked out well this month time/day wise...lol... also i gave up for a year as the stress was starting to make me ill... but i;m raring to go again...lol....if you wanna keep busy i'm always here talking crap for you to listen o hahhaha

VJONES1985 Wed 21-Aug-13 19:28:44

Ha ha,thanks! I came off the pill two weeks ago and am now on cd20, just hoping that I'm ovulating and that everything's normal! Hope it goes well for you on Friday.

Nulanoo Wed 21-Aug-13 19:44:23

Hello smile well I think I might have ovulated although if I have it was very soon after AF. This is my first proper cycle after coming off the pill so all very new. We have been dtd every day! Hope this is ok although it's pretty much what we had been doing before ttc anyway tmi!! Xx

VJONES1985 Wed 21-Aug-13 19:46:03

Hiya! What signs did you have to make you think you ovulated? I think I ov yesterday so am now in the dreaded 2ww!

Nulanoo Wed 21-Aug-13 19:47:33

Just the ewcm for 3 or 4 days and now that's stopped. Who knows though!

VJONES1985 Wed 21-Aug-13 19:50:07

Yeah,I'm the same - had ewcm including spotting, raised temp, sore boobs and also positive opk. I'm now 1dpo. How about you?

Nulanoo Wed 21-Aug-13 19:52:07

Well I'm really not sure i noticed the ewcm on Saturday and I've felt a bit achey too also randomly feeling really travel sick in the car but that's probably unrelated!

VJONES1985 Wed 21-Aug-13 20:03:08

How many dpo are you? Wondering if we'll be testing around the same time!

Nulanoo Wed 21-Aug-13 20:42:04

I have an app on my phone that says AF is due 8th Sept but I feel like I could have possibly ovulated earlier than what the app says as I'm still uncertain on the length of my cycle!

VJONES1985 Wed 21-Aug-13 20:54:29

Me too but af should be about 14 days after ov so looks like its due Sep 3rd for me if my cycle is 'normal'.

Nulanoo Wed 21-Aug-13 21:35:56

Well after coming off the pill I had a bleed 1 week after then my actual period 2 weeks after that so hopefully ill know how long my cycle is this month or can hope for a miracle and get pregnant first time!

LongTailedTit Thu 22-Aug-13 10:38:33

Morning all!
I still haven't POAS, waiting til DH is back at the weekend, but... Swollen and achy boobs and WTF - righty is producing colostrum????!!!

AF due on Saturday (if this month is a 31dayer), so definitely testing then.
I mean, really, colostrum???!

snoozysleeper Thu 22-Aug-13 10:54:09

long tailed colostrum?!

I would've gobsmacked if you weren't pregnant smile

You have far greater discipline than me, I would have POAS by now blush any chance your DH could sneak home earlier??

Fx for you, update us when you get the official bfp

snoozysleeper Thu 22-Aug-13 10:55:10

* I would be gobsmacked

LongTailedTit Thu 22-Aug-13 11:50:07

Sadly not! He's working a few hours and being put up in a spa hotel the jammy git. envy
Should be home Friday night, so i shall POAS first thing Saturday, promise!

I just feel a bit apprehensive, it's our first cycle trying, and as DH has been working v long hours 7 days a week we only managed to DTD once, the day I OV! It would be quite flukey to get pregnant that easily.

I only stopped bfing DS a few months ago, so I wondered if the colostrum was related to my boobs 'winding down', but it does seem a bit of a coincidence! Bloody hell that gave me a shock this morning tho.

FX eh? smile

LongTailedTit Thu 22-Aug-13 11:51:38

*he's working a few hours away

LTT "Swollen and achy boobs and WTF - righty is producing colostrum????!!!" this sounds very promising! Hoping you have a BFP smile

VJONES1985 Thu 22-Aug-13 15:19:21

twiddles thumbs Sooo.... How's everyone coping with the 2ww? I'm 2 dpo and already symptom spotting, which is ridiculous.

ELR Thu 22-Aug-13 15:33:16

Hi everyone just checking in. I think I'm about 8 or 9 dPO and its driving me mad! i had been feeling queasy for at least the past 5 days but nothing this morning. And now got mild period pains and achy boobs feeling like I'm going mad how soon can I Poas? Think AF is due wed/ thurs.
jones I'm totally symptom spotting like mad!!!

VJONES1985 Thu 22-Aug-13 15:36:00

I feel silly though because I'm 2dpo so there must be another, perfectly logical reason why I feel so sick!! The earliest you can check is 9 dpo with certain hpts but a lot of women don't see a result until 12 dpo or even later.

JellyBeanDavey Thu 22-Aug-13 15:43:39

Hey vjones! I'm not 5dpo. Feeling impatient but less today, as I'm keeping busy (making caramel shortbread )

You won't get pregnancy symptoms until you are at least 9-12dpo but you will get symptoms of hormonal changes.

You know how people say about pregnancy symptoms and AF symptoms being the same... Well the days past ov leading up to your implantation (9-12dpo) will be hormonal changes. Bcos your body doesn't know that you are pregnant yet and is just getting you body ready for a period.

Does that make sense?

bushprincess Thu 22-Aug-13 15:49:55

Hi All... hope everyones doing well and keeping distracted from the endless wait!

VJONES I'm 2pdo too (so now into my second 2ww of the TTC journey) and also going stir crazy! Will be POAS at the same time probably... fx!

right... better do some work rather than scour the web for yet more conception advice!!

VJONES1985 Thu 22-Aug-13 15:51:11

I see what you mean. So it'll be a week at least until I get any signs. You're not 5dpo? How many dpo are you? Caramel shortbread sounds yummy.

VJONES1985 Thu 22-Aug-13 15:51:55

Bushprincess - am aiming to poas next weekend!

JellyBeanDavey Thu 22-Aug-13 15:56:48

Haha whoops, I meant I'm NOW 5dpo. Bloody thumbs.

Yeah I have made it since I was at school. It's been in for aaaages and I can't seem to get it to go golden. It just stays dough-y colour :/

JellyBeanDavey Thu 22-Aug-13 15:57:54

See there go my thumbs again "haven't made it" not have.

Hello bush (waves)

VJONES1985 Thu 22-Aug-13 16:01:46

It's a nightmare having to wait. Have told myself I'll test next weekend but even then it might be a bit early. Grrr.

bushprincess Thu 22-Aug-13 16:17:34

hmmm... caramel shortbread... any chance of sending some over Jelly? dough-y colour sounds fine by me... anything I bake seems to end up cremated (joys of a crazily hot gas oven that I still can't get the hang of!)

vjones I think I'll POAS on the monday (2nd) should be 13dpo and AF should have shown up if she's going to by then... if you wait till sunday or monday you should be good I think...

ELR only another 3-4 days wait for you to POAS.. good luck holding out!!

VJONES1985 Thu 22-Aug-13 16:19:39

Yeah, will try to hang on until Sunday then sad

Tea1Sugar Thu 22-Aug-13 17:17:27

I know it's hard but try and wait until Af is late. Then you won't be setting yourself up for disappointment or worry, you'll know for certain either way.

VJONES1985 Thu 22-Aug-13 17:19:14

This is my first month off the pill so not sure when af is due sad

MrsB2013 Thu 22-Aug-13 17:44:46

Vjones im the same, first month off pill, but im guessing bfp/af due on 26th going on a 28 day cycle

VJONES1985 Thu 22-Aug-13 17:47:37

Same here. A 28 day cycle would be Sep 3rd for af/bfp. I had positive opk on cd17, 18 and 19 so I'm assuming I ovulated on cd19.

VJONES1985 Thu 22-Aug-13 18:16:11

Does anyone know if it's possible that I actually ov on day 1 or 2 of my positive opks? Or is it more likely to have been day 3 (the last day)? Thanks.

layla1976 Thu 22-Aug-13 18:22:36

my AF is due on 30/31st Aug, my cycles are always 27/28 days .like clock work... i'm dreading it...lol... today i've been laid up in bed all day with a cracking head and my UTI... feel like poo!!! ....if only it was sore breasts, cramps/spotting etc then i'd welcome those symptoms!!! hahaha....however the way i'm feeling has nothing to do with pregnancy at all, just plain and simple unwell...sad.... still one can dream ... we should be expecting AF or hopefully in your cases BFP's, around about the same time. spread over a week .... fingers, toes, and anything else i can possibly cross!!!...are any of you doing anything exciting at the weekend??? at least the weekends go quick so time will fly grin

layla1976 Thu 22-Aug-13 18:23:57

vjones ..its anytime from when you get that positive opk - 12-36 hours later

VJONES1985 Thu 22-Aug-13 18:25:37

Layla - even though I got positives for the following two days?

VJONES1985 Thu 22-Aug-13 18:27:33

Sorry you're unwell, Layla. Am having my nails done tomorrow and taking a friend out for lunch. Saturday am buying a new dress for when I become a spiritual guide for a friend's baby (she's doing a pagan naming ceremony) and Sunday am at a bbq.

ThreeFromDesire Thu 22-Aug-13 19:05:36

New on conception but not on mn. Hello! I'm 2dpo today I think and symptom spotting as per!! Relaxed a bit about ttc this month (smashed up the cb opk lol) and didn't do much around ov but loads of sticks ready and waiting to be peed on so why not grin

Who is testing next ?

VJONES1985 Thu 22-Aug-13 19:10:43

Not me yet sad

wispaxmas Thu 22-Aug-13 19:54:57

I've not posted on this thread before, but I tried a cheeky sneak peek and bfn, but shouldn't really be testing until Tuesday.

VJONES1985 Thu 22-Aug-13 20:02:59

Yeah, guess that's a bit early, wispa! I'm hoping to test next weekend. Hot positive opks three days in a row - does anyone know whether I could have ov on any of those days or whether it was likely to be the last one only?

ThreeFromDesire Thu 22-Aug-13 20:21:10

Erm, feeling a bit dumb but I just entered my lmp into a fertility app and I think (if my period is due between the 30th august and 2nd sept) I'm actually 4-6dpo not 2dpo ish as ff said.

I've no patience so I'm totally aiming for initial poas date being the 26th. I have 25 cheapies so going to pee to my hearts content grin

VJONES1985 Thu 22-Aug-13 20:23:21

Oh, that's good! Wish I knew when I ov... I must be between 2 and 4 dpo,I guess. Think I might gey some of those cheapo tests too!

ThreeFromDesire Thu 22-Aug-13 20:28:48

I'm going to shamelessly encourage you jonesy smile


VJONES1985 Thu 22-Aug-13 20:31:03

Argh! Okay, pay day tomorrow so I'll order some. Done. Didn't take much, did it...

So when are you gonna poas?

wispaxmas Thu 22-Aug-13 20:37:50

Sorry VJones, I know absolutely nothing about opks, even took me ages to figure out what it meant!

bushprincess Thu 22-Aug-13 20:52:18

Hi Three looks like you me and VJones are all 2dpo so will be poas in unison - fun times (haha!)

Hi there wispa sorry about the bfn but early so fx... good luck with the wait!

sorry about feeling under the weather layla hope you feel better soon..

vjones sorry you're not getting a straight answer... but that is really because there isn't one. Your LH surge should last <24hrs (so one smily opk) and you should ovulate 12-36 hrs after that surge (up to 40hrs in some cases)

However.. our bodies don't read the text books - we all vary (and vary month to month too)

also remember that this your O will occur approx 12-36hrs after the peak of your LH surge... if you look at various charts of your hormones through your menstrual cycle you'll see that this is a smooth rise, peak and fall of hormones. Depending on the amount of LH you produce the test could potentially detect the hormone as it builds up to a peak and as it falls...

the okp kits are calibrated to detect a certain concentration of hormone in urine - we are all different so if you produce more hormone/are dehydrated so have more concentrated urine/increase the volume of urine used for testing you may be detecting the rise and fall of your LH as well as the peak...

Your best bet is to stop testing after the first positive opk with the assumption you will ovulate 12-36hrs after that. If your DTD regularly in the fertile period and esp in the 12-36hrs after that first postive opk then you'll likely have viable swimmers in the crucial position when you O (remember they can survive for several days)

continual testing is more likely to worry you than tell you anything useful.. and stress is not conducive to a bfp so chill!!

sorry that's not more definitive... but hope it helps!

bushprincess Thu 22-Aug-13 20:59:24

sorry DTD before the 36hr window! opps!

VJONES1985 Thu 22-Aug-13 21:28:14

Bush - thank you so much for your thorough response. We dtd every day from cd14-20 and my positive opk was cd17-19 inclusive. I guess I should have stopped testing but no one had told me that before. So I'm guessing that I ov on cd18 or 19.

Writerwannabe83 Thu 22-Aug-13 21:33:04

What will be will be now VJones - there is no point second guessing when you did or didn't ovulate and getting yourself wound up over it. Just stay calm and be excited about being in the 2ww grin

GnomieGrace Thu 22-Aug-13 21:34:37

Hi everyone, I'm finally into my 2ww I'm 5DPO, I had twinges and increased discharge but no EWCM this month, but by chance DTD the day before and day after! So fingers crossed. I started with heartburn 2DPO which has been on and off for the past 3 days and then some very light spotting today! Going crazy with the symptom spotting AF due 2nd Sept I purchased a First Response test this month as I heard they're quite accurate if I can't hold out till the 2nd!

VJONES1985 Thu 22-Aug-13 21:38:52

Writer - I don't find it exciting, I find it horrible!! Ha ha!

Gnomie - if you're 5dpo, 14 days after ov will be next Saturday

Writerwannabe83 Thu 22-Aug-13 21:43:17

Vjones - just do what I did which was obsessively POAS (2/3 times a day) from as early as 7dpo grin.

That made it pretty exciting grin

VJONES1985 Thu 22-Aug-13 21:45:42

Oh, sounds like a good idea. But it'd be heartbreaking if I ended up getting af x

Writerwannabe83 Thu 22-Aug-13 21:49:06

Well, if you aren't pregnant, you aren't - irregardless of when you start POAS grin

My attitude was:

I'm either pregnant or I'm not. Absolutely nothing I do is going to change that so I can either desperately hang around, making myself depressed about the thought of AF arriving OR I can think extremely positive and make the whole thing more enjoyable by POAS with the mind set of, "If I am pregnant, the sooner I find out the better" grin

I went with the latter and every day I had something to look forward to grin

VJONES1985 Thu 22-Aug-13 21:51:13

Yeah, I like that attitude... So, Thursday will be 9dpo. Wonder if I can wait till then...

Writerwannabe83 Thu 22-Aug-13 21:53:25

I would start on Tuesday, haha grin

VJONES1985 Thu 22-Aug-13 21:54:57

Ha ha, I expect I'll cave early. Just waiting for the cheap tests from Amazon to arrive.

VJONES1985 Thu 22-Aug-13 21:56:47

Which ones did you use, writer?

Writerwannabe83 Thu 22-Aug-13 21:58:47

lol - I got my cheapies from eBay. I think I got about 30 tests for £10 or something ridiculous!! grin

I hid them away so my husband wouldn't find them as I knew he would call me crazy. He has no idea how often I was POAS. As far as he is concerned the first time I tested was the time I actually got the BFP. I'm happy to let him believe that... grin

VJONES1985 Thu 22-Aug-13 22:01:00

Heh heh. Could you send me the link please?? You got bfp at 12dpo, didn't you?

Writerwannabe83 Thu 22-Aug-13 22:03:39

I did indeed - it was the most mental day of my life so far grin

20 tests for £3.50!! Can't go wrong!!


ThreeFromDesire Thu 22-Aug-13 22:04:10

Oh no writer! I was all set to start poas ing from 10dpo in 4-6 days but now I could potentially start tomorrow...

I like your reasoning!

Writerwannabe83 Thu 22-Aug-13 22:04:19

I don't know how to make it into an actual link so just copy and paste it into your toolbar smile

VJONES1985 Thu 22-Aug-13 22:05:08

Thank you! Will check those out tomorrow as well. Getting excited now! And still forcing dh to dtd every two days "just in case".

Writerwannabe83 Thu 22-Aug-13 22:06:23

three - I don't want to be responsible for mass testing and hysteria on the August Bus grin

Writerwannabe83 Thu 22-Aug-13 22:09:15

VJones - the minute sex starts being forced, STOP! You don't want your husband getting fed up or feeling 'used' on your first month of trying, it will only make things harder in the long run. Me and hubby only DTD on 2 occasions in the lead up to ovulation and then again on the actual day of ovulation.

Let your hubby have a rest grin

ThreeFromDesire Thu 22-Aug-13 22:10:42

grin too late!

VJONES1985 Thu 22-Aug-13 22:11:36

But what if ovulation hasn't actually happened?! Seriously when I want something to happen, I go for it. I'm a bit scary actually.

GnomieGrace Thu 22-Aug-13 22:13:42

VJones I ov'd on CD 12 and my luteal phase is always a couple of days longer so that makes it due 2nd but I'm hoping to test 29th which will be 12DPO so should give a solid result! Next cycle I might go down the 20 tests for £3.50 route I'll see how my nerves hold out next week!

VJONES1985 Thu 22-Aug-13 22:16:11

Good idea. There's a little gang of us ready to test next week by the look of things!

Writerwannabe83 Thu 22-Aug-13 22:16:13

If ovulationhasn't happened, then it hasn't happened and fretting and worrying won't change that. There is no reason to think you won't have ovulated so just relax smile

Take some deep breaths VJones - you are going to drive yourself into having a complete meltdown at this rate smile

Just accept that what will be, will be and all you can do is POAS and hope for the best grin

VJONES1985 Thu 22-Aug-13 22:18:18

I know you're right... I just worry so much that this isn't going to happen for us or that there's something wrong with me. I don't know why, I'm just a pessimistic person!

Writerwannabe83 Thu 22-Aug-13 22:24:51

Every woman probably worries about that, it is just important that you keep it in perspective. Apparently it takes most couples up to a year to conceive and that time span can be longer for people who have been on the contraceptive pill for a prolonged time. A woman I work with has got one daughter and is due to give birth to her 2nd in about 5 weeks - she was on the Pill prior to trying to conceive and it took her 9 months to get pregnant the first time and 7 months the 2nd time. But, on the other hand there are women who come off the Pill and get pregnant straight away. Life and conception is unpredictable.

Just try not to put too much pressure on yourself and if you don't get pregnant on Cycle 1 then please don't searching for problems and reasons as it will only drive you mad. Enjoy TTC, it is an exciting time, but don't let it take over your life x x

VJONES1985 Thu 22-Aug-13 22:31:12

Thanks writer.

MrsB2013 Thu 22-Aug-13 22:38:03

Excellent advice Writer

Im trying not to worry about it all too much, I think every woman thinks there may be something wrong after being on the pill for so long. Im not getting into these opks yet, will give it till Christmas and if no bfp then might start using them

Refoca Thu 22-Aug-13 22:43:00

Good evening all! Not a lot to report over here, I've forgotten when last AF was but it feels like about as far as I get from one so if I was a betting lady I'd say I'll be spotting tomorrow and in full flow by Sunday or Monday. Unless...

Well anyway, I should rename it the 4ww as I'm testing super late as I love the suspense! Plus, I'd rather think I had a late AF than know there was a chemical pg if it's not a keeper. No earlier than 14th Sept over here.

I do kinda love the opposite approach too though - the suspense 2 or 3 times a day, lol! Hope it's as lucky for everyone else as Writer found it.

VJONES1985 Thu 22-Aug-13 22:44:41

I so wish I could be like you, Refoca!

Refoca Thu 22-Aug-13 23:25:06

Haha VJones...I'm only hoping if I type it enough times I have to stick with the plan...already starting to hover in the pg test aisle every time I go to Boots...hmm

Tea1Sugar Thu 22-Aug-13 23:45:53

Vjones you really do need to relax more about it hun. It's the first month. If you're not pregnant, so what? You're so early into ttc. I worry that stressing and symptom spotting this early could be detrimental, if, like many many couples, it takes a while. Plan to do lots over the next couple of weeks to keep yourself busy. There is very little point trying to poas until at least 12 dpo as implantation can take up to 12 days anyway. Just chill smile

Nulanoo Fri 23-Aug-13 00:15:11

I agree it's not worth stressing every woman is different so it's not good comparing yourself to others. You sound as though you have a nice few days planned though smile we are having a whole date day tomorrow starting with breakfast out at a yummy deli! X

wispaxmas Fri 23-Aug-13 08:14:58

MrsB, I'm with you on the opks. If everyone says it can take up to a year for healthy couples in their 20s/early 30s, then I'm not going to worry about forcing anything before then, and I really don't want to get into the habit of thinking sex = only for babies, only at the right time.

I think my husband is unfortunately starting to worry about his little guys, though, even though it's only been 3 months.

ELR Fri 23-Aug-13 08:56:42

wispa I think you are right imagine the stress it must cause for a man but they can't really talk about it to anyone.
Im trying for no3 with a big age gap so i didnt really use the internet much 8 years ago and just got on with dtd whenever. But now you can google eveything and it turns us into nutters! I think having the Internet is good but it can give people way too much information which just makes us all paranoid me included!

wispaxmas Fri 23-Aug-13 09:54:30

These last few days coming on mumsnet I've started having pregnancy dreams!! It's like how I was in the days before my wedding, but now it's the days before I'm expecting AF. Hopefully I'm able to switch off if it didn't happen this month and only switch back on with a couple days to go next month, I don't think I could be this obsessed with eggs and sperm and dpo and everything all the time.

VJONES1985 Fri 23-Aug-13 10:34:46

Thanks for the slap round the face, guys blush

Had a dream last night that I did a hpt and it was positive. It also told me that we were having a boy! Did some symptom spotting last night too - felt sick, hot and 'fluttery' down there!

layla1976 Fri 23-Aug-13 15:49:33

hi everyone!! hi VJones.....still stressing?? i hope not..its stressful this ttc business though eh! i'm 7 days past ov .. i have cramps but think its my urine infection (UTI) and that's about i,. as i generally feel really odd down there..it feels like its on fire and constantly bloated and full with crampy pain , plus i'm constipated as hell (TMI-SORRY LADIES) ..the doc gave me pills for my UTI that you should NEVER take when ttc or pregnant, my GP knows what i'm going through as she was referring me for tests the same day...didnt know until i took them but apparently they can do harm so i'm def out this month!!!!...didnt think to check as assumed she'd give me something thats ok if you're TTC. bloody stupid doc.angry.anyway, had my progesterone day 21 tests today ...find out next week if i'm abnormal or not!!!!...i'm worried....i know in my heart of hearts theres a problem... i'm scared stiff.....anyway my af is due in 7 -8 days ... so who will be testing first ??? ...i'm not bothering this month as i know i'm out..... i do hope at least one of us has some luck !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! baby dust to you all xxxxxxxxxxxxx

Nulanoo Fri 23-Aug-13 16:15:27

Hi everyone! Still full up from my delicious breakfast which makes a change as since coming off the pill I've not stopped eating! Had a terrible sharp pain low down below my belly button earlier so much it stopped me in my tracks, not sure if its anything significant but thought I'd share! I've absolutely no idea how many dpo I am, could be 6 if I count it from my first Ewcm but really not sure! Nearly time for the long weekend smile smile

bushprincess Fri 23-Aug-13 17:28:49

layla hope you feel better soon and can get back into the TTC game... and fx for your test results...

VJones hope you're feeling more chilled today!

Wish everyone a lovely weekend without any TTC worries or stress... I'm going to enjoy a few of these wine...while I can wink hurrah to weekends! grin (but before I get told off... only a couple... just incase!)

VJONES1985 Fri 23-Aug-13 17:36:02

Hi everyone! Bit more chilled today. The way I'm dealing with it is by telling myself it's not gonna be my month this month!

Also, this is the first day since coming off the pill (3/4 dpo) that I feel 'normal'. Obviously a good thing but also means I don't 'feel' pregnant sad

In other news, I went shopping today and bought a woollen shawl thing, a dress, a bra and, err, a chocolate cake!

Nulanoo Fri 23-Aug-13 18:15:05

Actually I spoke too soon I'm now ravenously hungry! Might go out for tea smile

VJONES1985 Fri 23-Aug-13 18:20:07

Nulanoo - I've been eating like a pig since stopping the pill, too! And I'm the same regarding dpo - I had three days of ewcm so could be three, four or five dpo!

layla1976 Fri 23-Aug-13 19:56:00

Thanks BushPrincess.... i'll keep ya posted on my test results... VJONES... you're first time trying is only very early so i'm glad you are more chilled... it does happen though ...some people and hopefully you are one who...wham bam it works like magic straight away... did i ask you if you have a child already?? do any of you?? ... thats a great indication that you're in working order...my pal whos my age had unprotected sex ALL THE TIME as a late teen and early 20's (most fertile time) and never got preggers... think it depends on each person... everyone else except one has been fine , may have taken a few months or over a year but they all got there. i had a booklet come through from the lwc in harley street on IVF, IUI and ICSI ...didn't realise there was so many things!!! ... to get a lot of the preliminary tests just to see if everything works and what your ovarian reserve is not that expensive and can be done in a matter of a couple of weeks...i've been waiting 8 months on nhs - where they lost my tests 3 times and they can only do the basic ones, i'd need a referral and a waiting list for the rest... what a waste of time... to be honest,,,if i had a million squid i'd pay it now to know everything is ok , so after i get these basics back from nhs next week im booking a consultation at the lwc in london... will lt you know how it goes..info@londonwomensclinic.com , they put you on their mailing list and and you magazines with success stories and ALL the info you need to know about EVERYTHING!!!!................................... anyway NULANOO...implant pains are normally middle of stomach not to one side -like you said below belly button.....oooohhhh fingers crossed for you!!!!...i've been hungry too today i ate cake, cake cake cake cake x 5 today - well 5 krispy kreme...what a fatty!!!!.......anyway it was my birthday this week when i felt like crap so i'm off out for a wine or wine wine... i shall have one for you all...REFOCA, TEA1SUGAR, NULANOO, WISPAXMAS, ELR, BUSHPRINCESS and not forgetting my ol' VJONESY!, ...... have a smashing bankhol weekend... ..next week will be testing time ..towards the end of the week so hope you all take your minds off it amd enjoy yourself...all this stress you deserve it!!!! bighugs and baby dust to you all. xxxxxxxxxx grin, wink,. wine

VJONES1985 Fri 23-Aug-13 20:04:20

Yep,I'll be testing at the end of next week smile No children already for me, which adds to the worry but am sure it'll be fine. Chin chin!!

ELR Fri 23-Aug-13 21:35:25

layla thanks for having a wine for me, and good luck with all your tests. I've got two children already youngest is nearly 8 so the gap will be bigger this time and I'm 11 years older!
I've had light cramps on and off since yesterday and think I detected a little pinkish blood when I went to the loo earlier but not sure. I am not due on for another 5 days or so, could be an implantation bleed but prob not! I had light spotting for about 4 days in June and then came on as normal wasn't ttc then so not getting my hopes up.

layla1976 Fri 23-Aug-13 21:53:44

ELR that sounds so promising.... fingers crossed.... i'll check in after bank hol to see how you all are doing ....xxxx

Nulanoo Fri 23-Aug-13 22:48:26

I've been out for a rare steak and 2 very large red wines! Yummy!!! It's the weekend and I have 2 parties so yay! Emjoy it everyone x

internationallove985 Fri 23-Aug-13 23:23:56

Sounds lovely Nalanoo. He (f.w.b) took me for an all you can eat tonight and he bought me a dress bag and shoes. I don't know where that came from but I'm not complaining and when we got home(about 7.00) we had a few hours of doing T.D, so I've also had a brilliant day. xxx
Also Layla seeing as you never had a glass of wine for me , it's lucky I had one for myself. (L.O.L) If I'm exclude I just include my self. Although you may not have seen my name on the thread so that's fine. Also Happy birthday for this week xxxx
Hope everyone else is okay. I'm now on my 1 ww. xxx

LongTailedTit Sat 24-Aug-13 08:34:34

Morning all!
I have peed on my lovely Boots own brand test and have a BFP! Am grinning like a nutter.
A faint line, but we're both sure it's a line. grin

Thank you for keeping me company, now I just have to figure out which bus to hop on!
Good luck everyone, hope you all get your BFPs sooner rather than later. cake thanks

ThreeFromDesire Sat 24-Aug-13 08:36:57

Ahhh congrats longtail grin

Nulanoo Sat 24-Aug-13 08:39:02

Congratulations!!! smile

wispaxmas Sat 24-Aug-13 08:40:33

Congrats, longtail! My 2ww is coming to an end in a couple days, but definitely not feeling it (not that I really know what it should feel like).

LongTailedTit Sat 24-Aug-13 08:42:06

Thank you ladies! smile
I feel a bit daft - protoDC2 is a one hit wonder, tho clearly ClearBlue's OPK got my ovulation date spot on!

ThreeFromDesire Sat 24-Aug-13 08:49:18

!!Symptom spotter alert!!!

I have swollen gums

BFP due in T-minus 6-8 days lol

ELR Sat 24-Aug-13 08:53:14

Congrats longtail!
Not sure what's happening with me maybe the tiny amount of pinkish blood yesterday was AF on the way! I woke up this morning about 4am with a vice like headache and increased temp which is what usually happens the day I start af but not due for another 5 days so really don't know!
How is everyone else doing?

wispaxmas Sat 24-Aug-13 09:32:19

Elr, pms and early pregnancy symptoms are so similar, it's too hard to tell a lot of the time (this wisdom gleaned from google last night, haha), symptom spotting is the worst kind of hope, as you could just be hyper sensitive to your pms symptoms and thinking they're pg symptoms.

ELR Sat 24-Aug-13 09:59:56

I know wispa worst thing is I have my dairy from dd1 who is 10 and its almost identical symptoms so its even worse at getting my hopes up!

ELR Sat 24-Aug-13 10:01:04

Sorry diary!

GnomieGrace Sat 24-Aug-13 10:08:28

Congrats Longtail! I am now progressing from spotting to a really light period, I'm not due for another 9 days but am bloated, have a few cramps and am bleeding enough to need a tampon. Sorry if it's TMI but yesterday morning it was really watery and then turned brownish. My nipples have been really sensitive for the past two days and I've had heartburn with every meal. Symptom spotting like crazy!!! Oh well only 5/6 days to wait now!

VJONES1985 Sat 24-Aug-13 10:43:43

I'm only 4/5 dpo and I wish it would hurry up! Got a raised temperature today and feeling sick but it's too early for symptoms so don't know what it could be. Driving me mad!

LongTailedTit Sat 24-Aug-13 11:31:29

Thanks m'dears! smile

I did another test at 11o'c just cos I do like to be belt and braces about things - the Superdrug cheapy (£3.99 for 2) came back with a much much stronger line, proper dark pink. That's only three hours between pees, and I'd only had two sips of tea and porridge, so basically the same bladder contents.
I had read on here that Superdrug ones were more sensitive - I'd def recommend them. The Boots one was a v v faint line, ie you couldn't see it from a distance, only when holding it.

Tea1Sugar Sat 24-Aug-13 12:01:49

Congrats! Come and join us on the April antenatal thread smile

Writerwannabe83 Sat 24-Aug-13 12:32:01

Congratulations Longtail!!!!! How exciting!!!!!!!

snoozysleeper Sat 24-Aug-13 14:08:41

Great news, congratulations longtailed !!

lucyfluff Sat 24-Aug-13 14:35:56

ELR I read your post and it is exact symptoms to me, had slight pinkish after dtd last night and this morning. God knows if its a sign!!! No other signs other than tummy cramps??!!

11 days till I can test

Refoca Sat 24-Aug-13 14:37:47

Congratulations Longtail :-)

But quesy over here, still just blaming the rotten cold I've had...

VJONES1985 Sat 24-Aug-13 15:25:12

Lucy - how many dpo are you? Implantation bleeding happens (if at all) around 9 dpo.

layla1976 Sat 24-Aug-13 15:30:16

so sorry INTERNATIONALOVE...having glass of wine for you now...also....LONGTAILEDTIT...soooo happy for you!!!!! CONGRATS BIG TIME.... grin, smile but also a wee bit envy..... wishing you and your fam all the best xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

layla1976 Sat 24-Aug-13 15:37:03

p.s i've been pregnant 5 times..lost them all but had no spotting at all... or any syptoms to report til about 6-7 weeks so everyone is different...so dont panic if you dont have any syptoms , but if you do...then great ...thats REALLY POSITIVE!!!!!....goodluck xxxx

layla1976 Sat 24-Aug-13 15:39:12

internationallove this is for you wine

internationallove985 Sat 24-Aug-13 15:45:56

Aww thanks Layla. xxx
On a serious note though so saddened to hear about your losses. I was devestated after one loss. I can't imagine how much pain you must feel in your heart after 5 losses. Of course all women should be given the wonder gift of becoming a mummy and having someone to love and care for but you especially deserve it. xxxx

VJONES1985 Sat 24-Aug-13 16:12:37

I am going to be devastated if I get a bfn but really must stop symptom spotting! Am only 5 dpo and as Layla said, many women have no symptoms at all!!

Sorry for your losses, Layla xx

wispaxmas Sat 24-Aug-13 17:03:54

I would expect you wouldn't have any symptoms whatsoever until implantation, which won't happen until anywhere from 6 to 12 dpo if I remember correctly. I could be wrong, but it's makes sense to me. Until the egg gets to the uterus I wouldn't expect your body to know what's up, would it?

VJONES1985 Sat 24-Aug-13 17:15:14

No, you're right, it's 9 days on average. So I guess my symptoms are linked to pill withdrawal.

Nulanoo Sat 24-Aug-13 17:56:53

All this ttc malarky is confusing! I've now got ewcm again, had it last weekend too! Off to a party tonight though so not worth worrying about!

LBMarie77 Sat 24-Aug-13 18:41:40

Hi all. Fingers crossed for you ladies. Hope it's ok to jump in, my AF due tomorrow but have been feeling tummy period like but also slightly sharper twitches in my belly low down for over a week. Did the business day 9 and 10 and have a 28 day cycle so I thought a bit early really in my cycle but I just feel a bit weird :-/ what do you think chances are really? Dont usually get such bad pmt symptoms, not had kids so hard to tell! x

VJONES1985 Sat 24-Aug-13 19:39:07

You need to look for signs if ovulation or use ovulation prediction tests to help you work out when best to dtd.

internationallove985 Sat 24-Aug-13 19:44:53

Hi LBMarie. It's lovely to have you on board. xxx

LBMarie77 Sat 24-Aug-13 19:58:48

I'm pretty sure I ovulate a little later than 14 days...between week 2 and 3 I feel from body changes but it's still possible. Partner works away so only do it when we can/possible anyway. And thanks 985 x

VJONES1985 Sat 24-Aug-13 20:26:40

Yeah, always best to use your body as guidance. For example, I ov this month on cd18/19 so I wasn't 'average' either smile

LBMarie77 Sat 24-Aug-13 20:42:15

I should try an ovulation kit to see actual ov, just new so havn't done anything non-organic. Interesting you are days 18/19 too on ov. When is your AF due?

VJONES1985 Sat 24-Aug-13 20:58:57

I don't really know as came off the pill two weeks ago I'm guessing it'll be two weeks after ov which means I've got 9 days to go.

LBMarie77 Sat 24-Aug-13 21:09:08

oh, yeah, the pill always messes up 1st few cycles from experience, hard to tell until you have had a few periods and get back into a regular cycle. Best of luck!

VJONES1985 Sat 24-Aug-13 21:12:13

Thanks! Had sign if ov and positive opks so hopefully I did ovulate. Good luck too!

MrsHugh Sun 25-Aug-13 08:00:10

I'm right there with you! It's been a weird cycle this month as I don't really know when day 1 of lmp was(long story)! So I have no idea when ovulated, or when my AF is due...

The should I test/shouldn't I test battle has commenced! I can hardly wait for 'line eye' when I imagine that line on the hpt...


VJONES1985 Sun 25-Aug-13 10:20:02

Line eye? Ha ha! I will totally have that when I test next weekend.

GnomieGrace Sun 25-Aug-13 10:23:56

Looks like I'm out for this month as this has progressed to a full blown period, which is odd as I started to bleed on CD 17, oh well pass the chocolate ice-cream, sauce and brownies actually just anything that has any cocoa in it at all :-(

lucyfluff Sun 25-Aug-13 10:56:13

Sorry for late reply VJONES my Internet connection on hols is shocking!!

I don't have a clue when I ovulated, except having bad cramps, AF due around 4th sept. the pinkish tinge has gone now so god knows what that was maybe the position we did it?!

No other symptoms and I remember having sore boobs last time.....

VJONES1985 Sun 25-Aug-13 11:40:33

Me af is due on the 2nd or 3rd I think. I just added 14 days onto the day I ov and that's my educated estimate.

Don't panic about symptoms though - it's still a bit early for those and you won't necessarily get the same symptoms as last time anyway.

lucyfluff Sun 25-Aug-13 11:54:41

Yeah I'm not too worried about it all as first cycle and it could all be a bit out of sync at the mo!!


VJONES1985 Sun 25-Aug-13 11:57:16

Yeah, overnight I've vowed to stop comparing other women's experiences with my own because it was driving me mad. Everyone's symptoms and cycles are different so I need to stop stressing about it smile

LBMarie77 Sun 25-Aug-13 12:23:55

Everyone really is different in their cycles it seems, doesn't it. I thought I had AF start this morn as tiny teeny amount of spotting on tissue so huffed around but since then nothing. Due AF today, usually bang on 28 days so lets see by tonight. Head **! x

VJONES1985 Sun 25-Aug-13 13:35:50

Yeah, it's all so different and frustrating but it's so important to not stress out too much when ttc. Having said that, I have 8 days till af/bfp and I can't handle it...

LBMarie77 Sun 25-Aug-13 20:29:28

I'm out for this mth, AF just arrived properly :-( Good Luck ladies! x

internationallove985 Sun 25-Aug-13 22:01:59

Aww sorry to hear that LBMarie77. Hope you have better luck next month. xxx

Congrats LongTail and sorry to hear that LBMarie.

Wishing everyone else loads of luck!

LongTailedTit Sun 25-Aug-13 22:46:11

Thank you for all your congratulations ladies, it's amazing to me that I'm pg this quickly! I've joined the May thread in antenatal, hope to see some of yu there soon smile

I have my fingers and toes crossed that you'll all follow in quick succession thanks good luck to all!

layla1976 Mon 26-Aug-13 11:16:17

LBMARIE77..... sorry to hear that hun... if it make you feel better my AF i jut around the corner and i'm out too.... infact think something bad is wrong as yesterday nearly went to A+E as had worst pain ever in pelvic region, this has been going on for a while but pain never this bad, random time too during monthly cycles over last 6 months or so, i've been trying to ignore it and put my head in the sand ,so not ovulation pain or menstrual pain...maybe endometriosis or PCOS ...which equals FERTILITY PROBLEMS.... explian why i'm still not pregnant after 3 years... got regnant easily in my teens and twenties!!!!!....5 times which i lost , but till now i'm in my 30' and late 30's i'm screwed!!!!....feel like giving up!!!!......
Longtailedtit you are so lucky...what do you want hun..boy or girl??? .... xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

layla1976 Mon 26-Aug-13 11:17:29

sorry for all the spelling mistakes ...some of my keys on my lap top are sticking !!!! sorry xxxxx

layla1976 Mon 26-Aug-13 11:31:29

Gnomiegrace i didn't see you're post til a mo ago... just think you're new cycle has started and you'll be trying again in a few days and new month, fresh start and better odds i'd say....GOODLUCK....... xxxxxx... VJONES1985... you are definitely sounding more chilled out.... best way to be... try to stay like that as stress has a really detrimental affect on us when TTC....
also ...still best of luck to everyone else on this thread TTC..... baby dust to each and everyone of you.... maybe this month is longtailedtits turn and hopefully a few others , however if not no doubt we'll all be on another thread for next month and even if just one of us at a time make it we'll all get there in the end... we gotta stay positive eh....
goodluck ladies .....wish you all the luck in the world

internationallove985 Mon 26-Aug-13 11:39:44

Hi Layla. I agree this is LongTailedTit's month which is fantastic but our turn and everyone else who is TTC's turn will come. It's ignorant to our future bungles of joy to think that it wont.
Going to D.T.D for a few hours later (he's coming over at around 4ish). My D.D is staying out and we've both got a few spare hours so it would be a shame to waste them. xx
Also Glad to hear your more chilled out now, like I said chilling out during TTC is like everything in life easier said than done, so well done. xx

VJONES1985 Mon 26-Aug-13 11:58:39

Layla yeah, just realised how silly it is for me to compare myself to others. Having different symptoms or no symptoms at all does not mean I'm not pregnant or I have something wrong with me - everybody's different so the best thing to do is just stop symptom spotting and wait until af due day to either test or realise I'm out for this month.

ELR Mon 26-Aug-13 13:23:39

Hi ladies, well think I'm out too for this month! Couldn't help it and did a test lastnight and was bfn, my boobs are absolute agony and much bigger than usual bras are all tight! I had convinced myself I was def pregnant. I'm not due on until thurs/fri so might be a slim chance it was a false negative but prob not at least I am feeling much less obsessed with a BFP now! Have a great day everyone!

VJONES1985 Mon 26-Aug-13 13:32:41

ELR It's much too early to poas yet. Yes, it's possible to get a bfp four days before af is due but it's far more reliable to wait until it's due/late so it's not over yet!

Writerwannabe83 Mon 26-Aug-13 14:16:33

Just echoing what vjones said, I didn't get my BFP until the morning of the day my period was due. For about 2 days prior to my BFP I had noticed a few changes in my breasts which is one of the signs that made me think I was pregnant. It is too early yet, give it a few more days x

ELR Mon 26-Aug-13 16:21:23

Thanks guys I know you may be right, in some ways the bfn made me feel better as I was totally stressing about it, now if it does end in a positive it's a totally unexpected bonus!
With my dd my boobs killed but I was not sure what to expect as it was a first pregnancy and didn't test until I was about 8 days late and with ds I just new I was pregnant and tested on day af was due and got the BFP. I kind of feel like that now all the same symptoms ect so feel a bit daft thinking I was pregnant when I'm not!! But like you say it may still happen.
writer did you get negatives before you had the positive then?

LongTailedTit Mon 26-Aug-13 16:46:22

Layla - a girl would be nice, but a little brother for DS would be equally good! We will find out, I'm not good with surprises, and would rather know and get it sorted in my head. smile

ELR - don't write yourself off just yet, it's a bit early to say, and we all have differing levels of HcG anyway!

LongTailedTit Mon 26-Aug-13 16:48:54

Meant to add - my boobs were ridiculously sore when I was first pg with DS and hadn't yet had my BFP, my nips were so sensitive that I couldn't even shower facing the water! Boobs make great baby weathervanes IMO. wink

GnomieGrace I am sorry to hear AFs arrived. On the plus side you can get your cocoa fix smile

Writerwannabe83 Mon 26-Aug-13 18:05:37

ELR - I was testing for the entire week before my period was due, sometimes even twice or three times a day! I was obsessed! I was getting negative after negative after negative grin

When I eventually got my BFP it was either my 2nd or 3rd test of the day. The 1st test of the day which I had taken with FMU upon waking had come back as a BFN. My eventual BFP came at about 4pm grin

wispaxmas Mon 26-Aug-13 18:12:40

Writer, you've given me such hope!

ELR Mon 26-Aug-13 18:19:36

Just done another test and negative! Thinking how nuts I was and then just read your post writer feeling so much better even if I don't get a positive at least I'm not the only obsessed Poas person in the world!!

Writerwannabe83 Mon 26-Aug-13 18:20:25

I'm not proud of how desperate I was, I easily got through about 25 HPT until I got my BFP. And then, when I got my BFP I took about another 5 'just to make sure' hmm I'm currently 9 weeks pregnant and even thought know I'm pregnant I have still taken a few tests here and there over the last 4 weeks, just for reassurance smile. I just love seeing that line!!

I'm glad I gave hope but don't turn insane like me, haha grin

Refoca Mon 26-Aug-13 18:36:36

Hi everyone!

VJones nice to see you chilling out and telling eeryone else to be patient ;-) hehe...you know you wanna join my 'test when AF is two weeks late' club really :-D

ELR I hope you get your BFP when you test again...sounds like a Saturday test could work well, so you know AF is late by then?

Layla fingers crossed pains are nothing serious, and hope you're wrong about AF looming too.

International few hours BDing sounds like a fun afternoon ;-)

Everyone who's out for the month, hope September bings better news.

I went shopping today and cannot believe the price of some of the pregnancy tests!! Surely they were cheaper 5 years ago?!?

Anyway, DH persuaded me to stay firm and not test until 14th at earliest as planned...it's 3 weeks away still, feels so long! Can't quite work out if I'm late already or not, will be by then I guess, lol.

Argh! Wish I'd just bought one, getting impatient now! Haha.

Refoca Mon 26-Aug-13 18:38:30

PS - Writer ...I assume you weren't peeing on shop bought sticks? You'd be bankrupt :-p

Writerwannabe83 Mon 26-Aug-13 18:44:34

Refoca - most of them were Internet cheapies smile However, if I convinced myself I could see a line I would go out and buy a CB or FR test and pee on that! That then resulted in me learning that I had not seen a line smile

Since getting my BFP I have 'checked again for reassurance' about 10 times, all of which were done with CB or another store brand.

My husband would hit the roof if he knew how much I've spent on pregnancy tests over the last 2 months grin

VJONES1985 Mon 26-Aug-13 19:39:54

Refoca Just waiting until af due date is good for me! But the way I see it, it's putting off potential heartbreak x

VJONES1985 Mon 26-Aug-13 19:46:01

And I'm doing so well to ignore my 'symptoms' this week. Have told myself they're caused by pill withdrawal and am not getting excited!

Refoca Mon 26-Aug-13 20:10:28

:-o writer!

VJONES1985 Mon 26-Aug-13 20:12:35

Ha ha! Thank goodness my IC tests won't arrive until around Thursday and even then I'm not poas until Sunday! Give me strength!!!

Tea1Sugar Mon 26-Aug-13 20:16:34

IF when Sunday comes its a bfn, remember this is just your first cycle, and you'll be able to begin a second cycle with full throttle smile

VJONES1985 Mon 26-Aug-13 20:18:02

I know you're right, Tea. I will be heartbroken, I won't lie. But I have managed to calm down a lot and have convinced myself not to get hung up on symptoms.

wispaxmas Mon 26-Aug-13 21:35:42

Like tea said, vjones, it's just your first month trying. We've been at it 3 months now, but I think I'm only just now getting to the symptom spotting and all that.

That being said, there's still hope for this cycle, but since there's nothing you can do but wait for AF's due date, try to relax and take a load off. Find something to distract yourself with. If you don't fall pregnant this month. Are you going to be this obsessed next month, too? It's too much reassure to have for 2 weeks of every month, especially if you've only just come off the pill.

VJONES1985 Mon 26-Aug-13 21:39:38

I will be obsessed to an extent because I'm that sort of person but it's worse this month because I'm off work. Next month I'll be back to being busy and stressed at work.

wispaxmas Mon 26-Aug-13 22:03:14

Ahh, I get the same way. The long weekend is killing me, and I'm off work tomorrow and weds, too! Luckily I've got a few big events coming at work to focus on soon, but it doesn't help now, does it? Hence posting on here all the time!

wispaxmas Mon 26-Aug-13 22:10:27

Aaaand, I think that's officially me out for this 2ww with spotting bang on schedule for AF arrival tomorrow; I'll see you all in September sad

ELR Mon 26-Aug-13 22:14:04

Sorry to hear that wispa but like you said see you in September!

VJONES1985 Mon 26-Aug-13 22:16:33

Oh wispa, how annoying. Ah well, approach September with gusto!

Right, who are the stragglers still on the August bus,then??

internationallove985 Mon 26-Aug-13 22:21:31

Hi Refoca. It was indeed a fun afternoon.. We spent around 3.5 hours in bed (Big smile)
I watched corrie this evening as well where Kylie had her baby and although it wasn't real it made me think if I do get pregnant I'm definately opting for another c/section. xxx

VJONES1985 Mon 26-Aug-13 22:23:37

I want a natural birth so badly... but I'm diabetic so may end up having a c section for medical reasons sad

internationallove985 Mon 26-Aug-13 22:28:00

HI VJones. I'll keep my fingers crossed for you that first of all you get your B.F.P very soon and when you do. I keep my fingers crossed that they allow you to deliver naturally. xx

VJONES1985 Mon 26-Aug-13 22:30:00

Thank you smile And my fingers are crossed for you too! When is AF/BFP due?

internationallove985 Mon 26-Aug-13 22:31:43

The witch is due 31st. If she doesn't visit I'll start testing from the 1st Sept. xx

VJONES1985 Mon 26-Aug-13 22:35:25

I'm testing on Sunday too

internationallove985 Mon 26-Aug-13 22:42:33

If A.F stays away from us then we'll be testing buddies. xxx

ThreeFromDesire Mon 26-Aug-13 23:09:05

Jonesy- I'm diabetic also and have had a natural birth as well as sections. The sections were not for diabetic reasons though so there's hope yet! Although with all three births I was heavily monitored, induced the first time, em cs the second and stopped prem labour then em cs for the third. I'm still hoping for a natural (and non induced) birth next time but after 2 sections I'm probably dreaming lol.

I'm poas every day! I'm totally of the writerwannabe variety lol

lucyfluff Tue 27-Aug-13 09:37:50

This morning I am feeling sick.......sad how's everyone else?

VJONES1985 Tue 27-Aug-13 09:43:03

Three that's good to know, will have to get advice from you in the future!

Well guys, the 2ww became a 1ww for me as AF got me after only seven days. Am gutted and had a cry but hoping the short luteal phase is just down to me coming off the pill.

ELR Tue 27-Aug-13 13:39:27

Hi jones must be catching got my af this morning too! I'm not due on till thurs/fri so its early!

ThreeFromDesire Tue 27-Aug-13 15:20:54

Jonesy- potential implantation bleed?
Sorry you are out elr sad

VJONES1985 Tue 27-Aug-13 15:34:26

Three If implantation bleeds last all day and require tampons to deal with them, then yes!

bushprincess Tue 27-Aug-13 16:08:16

sorry about wretched AF vjones, wispa, Gnomie, LB and ELR but onwards and upwards.. let september be your month!! Hope you're not too down vjones but remember it's your first cycle trying and your body is only just sorting itself out after the pill - everything will get more regular soon I'm sure

Layla are you ok? what did A&E say? I hope you're doing ok... please let us all know....

Refoca... send over some of your chilled 'no testing till 2 weeks late' vibes please!! I've only got 1 hpk in the house so thats helping stop me thinking about any early testing - I have to hold out till it'll be a real positive!

international lucky lucky you envy

longtail huge congratulations! smile and hope more of us will be joining you on the antenatal boards soon...

Awww VJones I'm terribly sorry. I could tell you were super anxious about this. Remember it's ONLY your 1st try. Now you are probably better equipped for the 2nd try. I bet you know a lot more about everything TTC than when you first started. Chin up smile.

Sorry to hear you've got AF as well ELR. Fingres crossed for September!

VJONES1985 Tue 27-Aug-13 16:59:59

Yes, I've learned so much thanks to the patient mumsnetters! We did everything we could this month, which makes it a bit of a kick in the teeth, but I know I need to let my body settle down after coming off the pill and I've definitely learned to relax more. So, back to yoga and pilates I go next week!

Nulanoo Tue 27-Aug-13 17:36:30

Hi everyone smile does anyone know why I might be getting ewcm approx 10dpo? X

wispaxmas Tue 27-Aug-13 18:46:21

Apparently you can get it for a few days before ov...

wispaxmas Tue 27-Aug-13 18:48:38

Just popping back in to say that I feel like I'm being jerked around by AF. Tiny bit of light pink/brown when wiping last night and this morning, but absolutely nothing since. Did a hpt in desperation, hoping it wasnt AF and bfn. Why can't it just get here for real and let me get on with it?!

wispaxmas Tue 27-Aug-13 18:51:06

Oh gosh, sorry nulanoo, I didn't realise it was dpo.. No idea, then!

VJONES1985 Tue 27-Aug-13 19:03:38

wispa Could it be implantation?

wispaxmas Tue 27-Aug-13 20:04:48

According to the Internet it's too late for that, but then again, I never tracked ovulation, and just went by the guess that it's midway through the cycle..

AliOh Tue 27-Aug-13 20:44:22

Hi everyone, I'm a newbie so go easy on me smile on month 4 of ttc and 10 days into my two week wait! It kills me everytime sad this month I am trying to focus on other things rather than hoping I am pregnant! At least only four more days to wait!

ELR Tue 27-Aug-13 22:09:29

You are in the right place alioh, good luck!

GnomieGrace Tue 27-Aug-13 23:06:56

Oh Vjones, so sorry to hear that AF has caught you, coming off the pill is crazy on your body though, I came off had a withdrawal bleed then nothing for 70 days! Some EWCM on day 13/14 then nothing, I then had a proper period and ov symptoms at the right time but now a very very heavy AF 9 days early! I too am do ready it's driving me crazy!

Layla so sorry to hear of your pelvic pain and losses over the years, fingers crossed for you keep us up to date!

I'm on holiday in South Wales so am lurking and you're all right, at least I'll be relaxed and ready to go in September!!!

Refoca Tue 27-Aug-13 23:07:52

Hi AliOh welcome to the waiting game...fingers crossed for this month :-)

Nula I got this too (roughly...no idea how many dponit was actually, but felt like odd timing)...implantation? Random body hormone weirdness? Hope it's a good something anyway, for both of us!

wispa I'll keep my fingers crossed it's implantation and you'll have a BFP in another 3-4 days.

VJones so sorry AF got you :-( hope it's short and sweet so you can get into the next cycle post haste.

As for me, felt a twinge last night and I'm a bit crampy today...my mind has it pegged as some great internal battle, autopilot kicking progesterone into action as a little bean sends out waves of hcg and clings tightly on...most likely all psychological of course! Either way, keeping my fingers crossed that AF doesn't rear her ugly head tomorrow.

layla1976 Tue 27-Aug-13 23:34:22

hi everyone!!...how you getting on bushprincess???... i'm so so sorry for all who have got AF.... but as I said before its a new cycle so it can start all over again now,forget the last one and its a new fresh try again!!!... jonesy..everyone is right hun, it takes a month prob to regulate after the pill so fingers crossed this next month is for you!!!.............................
who's left in this 2ww then??? i've lost count as i've been up the docs etc loads... pains have completely disappeared..WEIRD??? ... doc is sending me for a scan on thurs/friday...my AF still not here ...due on FRI/SAT.... I REALLY HOPE IT DONT COME!!!!!...anyone testing from this weekend or early next week??? think my af will come though it always does!!!!

layla1976 Tue 27-Aug-13 23:36:04

p.s nulanoo...some women ovulate twice a month...it could be that!!!!

bushprincess Wed 28-Aug-13 07:50:24

hi layla so pleased you're feeling better fx for your scan do hope all is ok... we'll all be thinking of yoU!

all good here, just trying to hold out these last few days to test early next week... stay away evil AF!!

right, better get on with some work... have a good day everyone!

lucyfluff Wed 28-Aug-13 10:18:56

I'm not sure when to test!!!! Patch withdrawal started 1st aug BUT it was a breakthrough bleed and I just took it off to ttc and carried on with AF until about 7th.

What date do you think poas?!

Refoca Wed 28-Aug-13 19:41:04

Lucyfluff do you remember your cycle length pre-patch? Could go by that, or just test about once a week from now until BFP/AF.

bushprincess I forgot to send patience vibes, how remiss of me! Have a double dose today :-) wanna join my 'no test until 14th Sept' club? ;-)

I'm still oddly achy, about day 23 of ny normally 21 day cycle, but with such a short cycle it only takes me drinking a little less liquid to stall it for a day or two so I'm still in the 'am I late yet?' club...DH still encouraging me to keep my resolve, just 17ish days before I poas then, haha!

VJONES1985 Wed 28-Aug-13 19:51:25

Hi all! I'm no longer in my 2ww but am still lurking to see how you're all doing.

I was at work all day today,sorting out my new classroom ready for next week. And I was right about work taking my mind of ttc - I was busy all day and didn't worry about it at all smile

Tea1Sugar Wed 28-Aug-13 21:15:49

Glad to hear your chirpy jones. I've been sorting my classroom today too. Getting worried about disguising the waves of nausea in front of everyone though. I'll only be 7+4 when the kids come backblush

VJONES1985 Wed 28-Aug-13 22:26:29

After two heavy days,AF seems to be calming down so hopefully tomorrow will be the final day of it and I can crack out the opks again in a few days.

Jessica78 Wed 28-Aug-13 23:03:21

Hello! I know I'm coming in late on this thread... This is our 4th month ttc and I'm now a day late... Getting BFN on a test the last couple of days though, but have had a couple of waves of nausea. I totally expect AF to pop up anytime...

Nulanoo Wed 28-Aug-13 23:04:16

I think I've gone mad as I've done another test and obviously it was bfn!!

bushprincess Thu 29-Aug-13 08:56:22

haha Refoca the 14th!! I don't think I could wait that long... but the great thing is that if AF hasn't got you by then the bfp is just a formality!!

nunaloo... take a tip from Refoca... I don't suggest you wait out THAT long... but these early bfn's aren't telling you anything!

If no AF by next weds I think I'll be breaking by then... but trying in the mean time to get my head ready for dissapointment... as much as I'm trying to symptom spot I don't think I've got ANY!

have a great day all the 2ww'ers! xx

bushprincess Thu 29-Aug-13 08:57:57

sorry hi Jessica have my fx for you - any sign of the evil aunt yet??? if not then let us know if you're getting lucky this month!! xx

lucyfluff Thu 29-Aug-13 13:06:20

Grrrrr mumsnet just ate my post

lucyfluff Thu 29-Aug-13 13:08:02

Anyway, was going to say, I have no idea about cycle per patch Refoca?! Oops!!

I have just popped to the shops and bought some cheap tests to see maybe over the wkend...hubbie keeps saying wait until AF is late!

Jessica78 Thu 29-Aug-13 13:19:27

Nothing yet, have my fingers crossed, but don't think I'll be this lucky...