Fabulous Fecund Over Forties TTC: fertile,prolific,fru itful and productive. Hand over the bfp's and hand them over now!!(1000 Posts)
Starting the new thread for you wonderful ladies before I fly off into the sunset.
May this thread bring us the happy news we've all been waiting for.
Hello!! Have been reading through and soaking up the news - congrats to the newly bfp-ed! All fine here (24 weeks) and other than a few phone battles with the NHS refusing to accept that I am not having a smear with my dodgy cervix/low placenta until AFTER the baby is born, all seems to be plodding along nicely.
Gum thanks for the new thread and you have a brilliant time on your trip It's not sad at all about drooling over trip reviews - I do that when I've booked a travel lodge for the night .
Super-hot ere today and the double buggy is dead so will be a fun trip up to school!
Love to all xxx
Thanks gum for the new thread..I'm a fan of new starts! jass I also whisper "congratulations"..and hope our deal will work ..
diege good to hear from you!
Marking my place on the new thread.
Congratulations jass I hope this is "the one" for you.
Feeling sad lonely and pretty despondent here so I won't bore you all.
Much love to all x
Thanks for starting a new thread gum.
Your holiday sounds fantastic, enjoy the pampering!
Nice to hear from you diege and glad all is going well with your pregnancy.Stick to your guns re the smear! The North West is great when the sun is shing, looks like summer is finally here.
CaliBee sorry to hear you're feeling down, it must be so hard to be away from your DH, especially when you're just married. If you're feeling lonely there's always some virtual company on here for you. xxx
Diege, hold on to that fighting spirit! Well done on avoiding a totally unnecessary intervention at this stage.
Calibee, you should bother us about your sad mood, until we manage to talk you out of it!
Oooh, look, the thread is taking off already!
Lovely to hear from you Diege. Stand your ground honey. It is your body and your pregnancy, and you area n educated woman FGS! I know you will have thought it over carefully.
Calibee, you know we are all here for you and none of us would be bored with what you have to say. I have a big sack of hugs here, so take a few, ((hugs)) It must be so hard being apart from your lovely DH. How's the transformation project coming along???
I woke up at 4:30 am today! Bloody hell. I shouldn't be anxious about anything, I had written several lists in the last few weeks, managed to stick to the plan and crossed everything off. But I often do get early morning insomnia in the tww. Would it be progesterone that causes this?
We are taking a long drive today, to our friends in another town, where will will stay overnight before flying out tomorrow. Little Charlie is very excited about the airplane trip.
I may be able to check on the thread while I am away, but don't know if I will post.
Hopefully I will come back to good news all around.
Gum have a fabulous holiday, tell us all about it when you're back. Thanks for the new thread too.
Jass, I hope this one is the one - good luck.
Isabeller, I'm sure the midwife appointment will be fine - and I think you're younger than me. My midwife did describe me as "quite old", at my booking appointment, but hasn't mentioned my age since! I'm glad you're starting to feel better.
Isadorable, I hope treatment for your cyst is quick and relatively painless.
Morien, how are you doing, excellent that you've already had a scan and all is as it should be so far.
Green, if you're still lurking, how are you doing?
Diege, good to hear from you. Why would they suggest a smear while you're pregnant. I missed my last one, which of course isn't good, but I was told to have it done 3 months after having the baby, and to the best of my knowledge my cervix is normal!
I hope everyone has a lovely sunny weekend, I'm planning on staying as cool as possible, but it's been better for me so far to have had a gloomy summer, though of course we all need some sunshine.
Helle everyone, and thanks for the new thread, gum! Hope you have a great holiday!
Is it wrong that I feel strangely 'proud' and 'honoured' to announce the first BFP here?! Yes, after my temps staying up and up, I caved in yesterday and bought a test. It was positive last night, and still positive this morning...
I really didn't expect this, I had written this month off - we only dtd twice, on CD8 and CD11, and I ovulated on CD12 (I think). DH now thinks he has super sperm, and I'm almost agreeing with him. What are the odds?!
So - will it be third time lucky for me? I really really hope so.
Oscillating between feeling numb, giddy and petrified. We're at my friend's wedding today, and now I won't be able to drink, bummer.
Love to everyone!
Wow, congratulations, JBrd! Fantastic news.
I haven't been on for a while. Busy with work and the boys. Am now on 2nd month TTC but don't think I have much chance of a positive this month. AF due next Thursday and already feeling that bloated feeling along with the tender breasts and rumblings you experience the week before. Hey ho, maybe for the best as I have not been so careful with my alcohol consumption this month!
Hello to everyone. Lets hope this turns out to be a positive thread for us all!
Congrats jass and JBrd. Doc thinks cyst seeing gynaecologist thurs so will know more then. Feeling pretty down so hopefully straightforward. Bon voyage gum! Love to everyone else too.
Congratulations JBrd and hugs Calibee
sparkly I think perhaps I am not younger than you (I only just qualify to be on a forties thread) but midwife said they recently had a 54 year old Mum with twins who 'is doing fine'! The appointment was ok in the end and quite funny at times with writing down all my risk factors and completely eccentric life which kept failing to fit into the tick boxes.
hopeful "many women notice their symptoms subside around 9 weeks, and sometimes the symptoms go away only to return in a day or two." How right you were! Completely poleaxed again on Thursday and Friday and only just managed to take DP for vital 'accompanied' hospital appointment keeping an eye out for loos to rush into in case I had to throw up (sorry if TMI).
Thank goodness I have been feeling more human today. Hope everyone is enjoying the sunshine xx
Jbrd, wow, congratulations on your bfp. Thingers crossed and all else as well! I think your timing was not bad at all, one day before OV seems rather ideal - the sperm might actually be better up there this way and waiting for a couple of days. So, bring that hubby ego down, if you so wish. If not, let him float on th cloud, with you, hopefully.
Me still positive today, though not really stronger than 10dpo. Am 12dpo. Not really worried (yet), as it is the strawberry season and the fmu looks hardly u at all! Max hold I managed was 4 hours.....new try on tue, 15dpo. I am scheduling this so I will not overtest. They are bloody expensive here and I forgot to bring cheaper ones from home country when last visited.
Congratulations JBrd!!! So that temp drop was an implantation dip after all! Hope you have an uneventful pregnancy. xxx
Glad to hear you've been feeling sick Isabeller (in the nicest possible way!) Hope you've been able to take it easy today,it's lovely to have sunshine at last.
Jass reassuring that your test today is positive,it must give you some peace of mind. How are you feeling, any symptoms?
isadorable hope you can get your cyst sorted out soon without complications,get well soon x
Hi sparkly, 2minds and everyone else!
Congratulations jbrd. Such good news!
Jass wonderful news and overtesting was oneof my problems!!! Xxx
Jbrd congratulations!!! What wonderful news !!!xxx
Wonderful wonderful news jbrd....so happy for you.
Is dare I say I'm glad your symptoms are continuing??
Thankyou to all those that have offered virtual hugs (very greatfully received) and kindness. DH has now left on a four week exercise so we will have no contact atall the conversation has been awful since he went to Canada due to poor wifi and phonelines. It just feels like he is off having all the fun whilst I am left to organise the move and deal with the massive "empty nest syndrome" which seems to be going on in my head at the moment. I'm ashamed to say that my stroppiness and several snotagrams I sent him over the start of last week nearly caused him to be sent home on compassionate leave...eeek. Anybody would think I was the youngest one in the relationship!!! Anyway all is good now...I just miss him sooooo much. The sunshine over the last couple of days has lifted me no end......a drive in my car with the top down always puts a smile back on the old face .
I feel incredibly detached form the whole ttc business just now..~I'm not temping or testing this cycle. I feel I have got to know my body and am going to have a go at guessing when I ovulate from body signs. Afterall I know there is 100% zero chance of a bfp. Without the clomid I wonder if my body will revert back to the 40-50 day cycles that I was having last year??
Calibee, nice sunshine helps a lot. I took my bike out for a lazy stroll in the woods as well.
Irish, no, I have no symptoms whatsoever. In fact, had some brown smearing today which makes me feel very negative. In my successful pregnancies I never saw any brown spotting. In the unsuccesful ones, I always have had. So, I have to retest tomorrow to see whether to stop medication or not. Shall see tomorrow.
jass sorry for that bad sign but I keep everything crossed for you!
Isabeller, ehm good to know you're sick, hope not to much!! And how do you get to have teddy bear emoticons??
Cali hope the time DH is in Canada will fly away quickly for you!!
I had a bittersweet dream some days ago, dreaming the baby I lost was actually still with me.. She had been hiding in my home somewhere for months and I found her again and she was so similar to me as a child and I was so happy to have her with me at home.. It was amazingly realistic, of course it was upsetting to realize it was just a dream, but I was left with a good feeling.. it was as if she visited me in someway..
Mozarella, so sad..... But maybe indeed your baby came by to be with you for a fleeting moment.
I sneaked a quick OPK test in the afternoon in and still had the line on that one. Hard to compare with my last preg, as visibly the urine is so much more diluted, so even if I kept my last pack of hpt photos, I can not really tell where my levels are. Certainly sub-hundred, I think. Big chance of another chem.
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Every time I feel ill now I am laughing at everyone being so pleased I feel dreadful! It is a great sign but I will be relieved when it goes away.
Hello peeps and big congrats to Jbrd!
I'm new around here, 41, TTC #1 for 3 months. I met the love of my life just less than a year ago. For me, there was no reason to start trying before that. I guess I'm a bit of a late developer. DP is convinced it will happen very very quickly, I'm not so sure.
welcome Edamame, hope your DP has the right feeling!!
Tomorrow I will know which is the school where I will start to teach from September.. feeling a bit nervous about it.. .. I'm forcedly quitting a completly different kind of job and I wonder what it will be like to deal with teenagers..
Welcome, Edamame, and hope you will get a fast bfp and uneventful pregnancy soon enough!
Congratulations jbrd - lovely news. It's got to be third time lucky!
jass, how are things?
Welcome, Edamame. This is a lovely thread, lots of support.
I've had a strange few days. My mum called on Thursday to say that my wonderful 97-year old grandma was in hospital with only a few days to live. Fortunately I was able to fly to Manchester on Friday so I got to see her before she died on Sunday. She was in such a bad way that it's a relief she's gone, but she was a huge part of our family and she's going to leave an enormous hole.
WRT my pregnancy, I no longer feel the lovely positive confidence about it I did before - but maybe because I just feel sad because of my Grandma. On top of that, last time I started spotting at 11 weeks and the scan showed I was miscarrying, with the foetus having died at 9 weeks. I'm getting close to 9 weeks, and I can't pretend I'm not worried about the same thing happening again. I think subconciously I'm preparing for the worst and I'm torturing myself that my symptoms have disappeared. I don't seem to be quite as tired, and I'm not as nauseous (I was only sick once). That said though, my breasts are still very sore, and I still have wild food aversions. I was testing myself just now, seeing if I fancied a coffee, and the very idea makes me heave. Hey ho, I just have to ride it out, I suppose - I can't change things. Next scan is in 2 weeks.
morien sickness naturally decreases as pregnancy goes on, easier said than done but try not to worry too much!
from september I will be teaching in two vocational schools located in my town, that's a big relief as I could get schools much farther away..now I can focus my worries on the 14-15 yrs old I will have to deal with..
Forgot to say.. I am at the dr waiting to see wether my follicle exploded.. [impatient-worried emoticon]
Morien, unless you have thyroid trouble, the probability of recurrence at this stage exactly the same way as last time is really low. Do not concentrate on that, if you can. Symptoms are not at all important at this stage, your body is well established in pregnancy now and will hum along happily! Can you not get a reassurance scan? I think in continental Europe it is relatively easy to get a scan? But only if your nervous feelings seriously affect your wellbeing, otherwise perhaps it is best not to overscan the little person!
Ee, forgot about myself. I had a stronger line this morning, accompanied with stronger bleeding throughout the day. My chemicals normally bleed out really fast, doctor said it must take care of itself. I am confused abut the ability of my body to act weirdly.....
Jass That sounds all very Hope you are OK... Are you sure it's a chemical pg? Look after yourself.
Morien My thoughts are with you in this difficult time, wishing you strength to get through this. Bereavement isn't easy to deal with in any case, and being pg doesn't help (raging hormones and all). I hope that you can find some comfort in the fact that she didn't suffer and that you did get to say goodbye.
Of course it will affect everything, but please don't give up hope with everything. Take it easy, one day at a time, it will get easier.
Love to everyone else, I'm so tired! Got back from hols today and still need to finish unpacking, ugh...
JBrd congratulations. I have everything crossed for you that this one will be the sticky one.
Morien, I hope that you got to see your Grandma before she died makes things a little easier, but it's never easy no matter how old someone is. Be nice to yourself, and try not to stress about the pregnancy - of course it's far easier said than done, but your symptoms still sound like they're well and truly there.
Jass, sorry that you think this might be yet another chemical, hope you're doing ok.
Hi to everyone, welcome to the newbies.
Hi everyone I haven't posted for a long time but I have been reading everyones messages. My history is DS at 38 tried for another at 40 and have had 3 mcs in the last 5 years last one about 18 months ago. To be honest I have tried not to think about it for a while as I find it gets to me. I am of the view now that if it happens it happens but know there is only a small chance. Anyway on a more positive note did anyone read the Daily Mail article this week about a woman who tried for years to have children and then had 3 in her forties last one at 46. Apparently some women have a surge in their fertility just before the menopause!
Hi paula! I didn't know you before, but welcome back! That news on the daily mail is really encouraging, good to know somebody can get there. . gum, crazy rainy weather here in italy..I can't avoid thinking about your holidays..and I'm missing your morning posts!
Hello ladies, just popping in to save my place. I have wifi at my amazingly beautiful villa so can check in occasionally. It's very early, can't sleep so I got up. My DS is sitting beside me, drawing.
The first couple of days of our holiday were very busy in Bali, but now we are on Lombok, it is relaxed and cruisey. Bali was very hot and humid, never sweated so much in all my life, Lol. But here is not as hot and we have a pool to keep the temperature down.
I had a massage yesterday and when I lay on my front and she massaged my back, my boobs were very sore, but other than that I am not giving it a second thought.
We have arrived in a Muslim country on the day of the start of Ramadan, so every night the prayers chants songs etc go all night. It is not something I have experienced before, it is quite nice in some ways, but is keeping me awake a bit.
Anyway, I am keeping up with ladies. And will post too, depending on how things are going.
Morien I am so sorry for the loss of your grandma.
Right, off to watch the sunrise....
Morien so sorry to hear about your Grandma.x
Could you have an early private scan to try to put your mind at rest? I know it's so difficult not to worry but there's every chance everything is fine!
Mozzamum you must be pleased to have placements in schools close to home, it'll make life easier for you. Had your follicle popped when you went to the doctors?
Jass sorry you're still bleeding but sounds encouraging to have a stronger positive. I suppose you have to wait and see what develops and keep testing, it's a difficult time for you but I hope it turns out well .
Hi Paula ,I saw that article in the Daily Mail too! I'm supposed to be giving up ttc but when I read articles like that it makes me wonder if I would still have a chance at 45.
gum glad you're enjoying your holiday,it must be lovely to have a pool at your villa, and to have a bit of pampering, you deserve it.
Sore boobs.... what dpo are you?
Welcome Edam !
Hi to Sparkly JBrd and everyone else.
Yes, Irismummy, it finally popped and blood's tests were also good ..so dr said just keep on trying, which I'll try to do without worrying too much if possible..
gum your holiday sounds very relaxing, massages, pool, sunrises...WOW!!!
My own greatgrandma had her last at 46, in 1914. So I have always expected I can do it later in the life too. But something has gone wrong obviously with me.
Paula and others, I hope relaxed attitudes will give you your bfps. I guess I need to relax, too, but right now everything is such a mess. I am in quite some pain, low back and abdominal, doctor said it looks like normal period in ultrasound, but I am starting to think the last chem and this one are not chem at all but retained products from the blighted ovum. I have had this once and it feels exactly like this. Luckily it is one week until I can go to home country where quite some of my friends are gynes, so can have a friendly chat and check on the situation.
I know irishmummy I am the same age 45 it does make you wonder if it is still possible. It wasn't until I experienced my mscs that I realised how much I wanted another child and realised how hard it was. I had no problems with my first but then I was a lot younger! I do think years ago it was normal for women to have children well in to their forties. I would love to know if there are any success stories I know a lot of us have experienced msc but has anyone managed to have a child in their mid forties? I feel for you Jass43 I had to go into hospital for my 2nd msc I was in so much pain I don't think people realise (outside of this thread) how painful it all is not just physically but mentally too. I have started telling people I can't have any more children so that I don't have to explain all my history. I hope things settle down for you.
Paula, I conceived naturally at 44, I was 45 in May and my baby is due at the end of next month, I don't know if that helps. I do know how incredibly fortunate I am though. Good luck to everyone, and I hope to see more BFPs on here soon.
Jass, sorry you are so uncomfortable. I hope things resolve soon.
Gum, sounds like you're having a fabulous time.
Paula....I come from a large family and ttc in their forties is common. My dm stopped very early 33 but her sisters ( my aunties) kept going into around 45/ 46. The oldest her a set of twins at 48. Very healthy boys !!!!
I do wonder if modern diet and pollutants has somethimg to do with decline on bfps!!!
Gum....hope you are having a wonderful time!!!
Sparkly...lovely to hear from you!!! Hope you are keeping well
Jass poor you!!!xxx
I am doing well...25 weeks and an enormous bump...this week our dog has been poorly ( seems like she get a bug in heatwaves) and I have done nothing but to nurse her!!! Getting better but I have only slept 9 hours in the last 3 days!!!
Love to all!!!
Jass if you had retained products would you have any any BFNs over the last few months or would your tests just have stayed positive all the time?
It's convenient having friends who are gynaecologists,I hope they can advise you on what's going on.
notso it must be difficult sleeping in this heat when you've got your own internal central system,even if you didn't have a poorly dog to loof after!
Paula I know exactly what you mean about your miscarriage making you realize how much you want another baby,for me it seemed to awaken an intense longing to have a baby to hold and a feeling my family isn't complete now, someone's missing
Love to all
Good morning ladies.
We had an interesting day exploring yesterday, went to a nearby city which , although very busy, didn't look like a city. The shopping was very strange. We went to a shopping mall that was entirely shops that seemed "westernised" but were full on cheap plastic tat that no westerner would want to by. Not a single touristy shop. So I think it was essentially for the locals. Dh and friends are going on a tour of the traditional people and their crafts today, which would be interesting, but 6 hours is too long for DS, so we'll hang around the pool. We bought him floaties (arm bands) so that he can be more free in the pool. He is wrapt!
Jass sorry to hear that you think this is a result of the blighted ovum. I don't know how you keep going. Actually, I do, as I know how powerful the desire for a baby is.
notsoold I am glad to hear that things are going well with the pregnancy, though sorry you are having sleepless nights with a sick dog. I hope she is feeling better soon.
Incidentally, over here pregnancy in your forties is not unusual. My friend who is here with us is 48 and one of the maids asked her if she would have another child as she just has one daughter with her on the trip ( two grown up boys back home). My friend said, no, as she is too old. She asked how old and she told her and the maid said, you have time for one more. I loved hearing that. Perhaps at 46 I am not totally without hope.
irish the sore boobs seem to a normal thing every month for me, though they seem extra tender. I also felt a bit sick from the smells yesterday, but that doesn't really mean much. I think I am 9 dpo, but I am trying to stay vague about that. I do know that if I don't see AF by weds I can test. So a few days to go yet .
Hello! Have been reading but thought I'd pop on and say hello as early mornings seem the only time I have to MN at the moment.
I am loving your holiday posts gum . I have a very vivid picture of the sights you describe, and how hot it must be! I'm hearing more and more people tell me stories about surprise pregnancies in the mid- late 40s - yes, it is rare but it does happen.
jass so sorry you think it might be bad news
notsoold 25 wks here too - heat is killing me! Shall I do a rain dance for us?
irish how are you feeling? I do know that yearning to complete your family - after a mc(s) that feeling is so much more intense and I truly hope you get some good news soon x
Well the troops are stirring - better get everyone up!
Notso, Diege,others - really good to hear about happy pregnancies in our geriatric ward! It is for me important to see I still have a few years ahead of me to keep trying, if I ca keep it up mentally. But I think I can, because honestly I do not feel too emotional about it all. Just want to be in clear to have a new chance.
I had a beta after mc which was 3. So I should have been at least in neg test territories. But when I had my blighted ovum 2 years ago, I retained products even with a 0 beta reading, the trophoblast tissue continued to stay in my uterus. And the periods during these months were weird, so I seeked an ultrasound and one of my friend doctors did an operation where She just removed the tissue, did not scratch out all the lining for that,to get me quicker into condition to try again. Also did a biopsy to understand why I might be miscarrying, even if it was only my 2 mc at that time.
At least I am bleeding quite strongly since yesterday, so have a fair chance to clear all out myself.
I think we are overdue for a fresh sticky bfp. Who is next? Hopeful, your turn, i think. And I hope jbrd is holding her own and progressing well!
Sorry you think it may be bad news, Jass.
My period has arrived bang on time so no bfp for me. Made an effort to dtd at all the right times this month too. I am only on the second proper month of trying and am already feeling my hopes are slim. Think this is because I conceived both my boys (while I was a lot younger) without trying so am thinking I have left it too late and it will now never happen.
I am really crossing my fingers for everybody.
This week we had a big scare and thought it was all over - massive sudden bright red bleed. Fortunately all was well but we had a very difficult few hours. I am on blood thinners so what might have been a little bit of spotting turned into a drama but in the end we saw the baby bouncing around and waving and no sign of any problem. Poor DP was in a complete state, fortunately the nurse and doctor were very kind to him and it has given me more confidence in our hospital.
Still looking forward to feeling better
Goodness, what a scare for you, Isabeller! Must have been such a relief to see your little baby bouncing about. I am pleased all turned out well for you.
isabeller I am glad to hear all is well, what a dreadful scare for you and DH.
2minds please don't feel too despondent, it is only your second month of ttc and there's no reason to think it cannot happen for you. When I stared ttc my DS at age 41 I felt like you, as I had fallen so easily with my other four babies, in fact the first one was a surprise, then the others happened the first month of trying. It took seven months to conceive DS. I now realise that it wasn't very long in the scheme of things. After him I have conceived three times, the first two times it took about six or seven months, then the last one 12 or so, and it has now been over a year and no bfp (all three miscarried). I am guessing it is longer between popping out fertilisable eggs, and even then they have been faulty. I still feel there could be a golden egg in there....
Thanks Jass for suggesting I get the next bfp. I would love that, but I am not feeling very positive this month. Not many symptoms but not dwelling on it either.
Yesterday was a lovely easy day. DS played in the pool most of the day and was so worn out he fell asleep in his chair at dinner . We have a series of photos of him falling asleep in random places on this holiday. He has been very good, but I do find it easier if we don't push him to do too much, trips and tours are not great with a tired or hungry or grumpy hot four year old in tow.
Today we are taking a boat to a tiny island, Gili Meno. Apparently there is fabulous snorkelling in clear water that isn't deep, so it will be good for Charlie.
I awoke so early today, around four, and was struggling to go back to sleep, then the chanting, singing and prayers started, there is a mosque very near our villa, and there was no chance of sleeping. I am not sure I would come back at Ramadam again
Love and bfps to all!
Thanks for the reassurance, everyone. Actually I feel much better about the pregnancy now - I've gone back to feeling quite calm and accepting of whatever comes; I think it was a blip because of my Grandma. On that front I'm feeling better too...for now, but we're going to the UK for a week tomorrow, starting with a few days at my mum's, and the funeral has been held till we're there (obviously I'd have gone anyway, but it's easier this way).
gum your holiday sounds wonderful, and I'm enjoying reading your posts about it. We're going glamping in the Lake District - one of my favourite parts of the world, and I think it'll be fun...but significantly less exotic!
Isabeller what a hard time you must have had. I'm glad things are ok.
notsoold, diege, sparkly really pleased you're all doing well, but I can imagine this heat must be tough. notsoold, how's the dog?
jass, thinking of you.
Hello to everyone else!
It is good to hear you conceived your DS at 41, hopefulgum. I guess I have to expect it to take a bit longer now that I am older & I won't lose all hope yet. I was determined not to let this stress me out at the start, now just 2 months in & it is doing just that! I will be keeping my fingers crossed that you get that bfp very soon. Sounds like you are having a lovely holiday - I am very!
Isabeller, what a horrible scare
AndMorien, good you are feeling better now. I am sure your grandmother will be watching over you for the coming months....
I think I will make a try to get a ultrasound tomorrow morning to see what is going on. I am still bleeding, from the first show it is now 10 days. Unless I get a negative test tomorrow morning I will go and see what us going on. If test is neg,will go to doctors when I get to my holidays
Thank you for saying that, jass - even though it made me cry (it doesn't take much at the moment!)
Hello ladies. We are still having a wonderful relaxed holiday. I cannot believe it is our last day in Lombok, tomorrow we take a fast boat to Bali, then head into Ubud for four nights.
I have been very content to spend most of the days here lingering by the pool, especially as DS just wants to swim all day. He is knackered by the end of the day and sleeps heavily, not at all like at home.
DH has been more adventurous, exploring, but I honestly just needed to recharge my batteries after a tough term at work.
I am pretty sure the will be no bfp for me this time. I haven't taken my temperature ( which has been nice) but my boobs feel less and less tender which is a clear indicator to me. Although I am fine with it, I would have loved to have a "souvenir " from my holiday ( though it would have been made back home). I am guessing AF will turn up on Wednesday. I can't complain, my DS is my little miracle, the boy that might never have been, had we not had a vasectomy reversal and a determination to have a baby. I look at him and can't believe how lucky I am to have him in my life, he's really so gorgeous.
The local people here absolutely love the little blonde boy. Everyone fusses over him and talks to him, he's never had attention like this before. The Indonesians really value children, it is so nice to see. There's never a frown bringing children into bars or restaurants, they serve their dinner first and try to accommodate your needs quickly.
jass I hope you can get some answers soon, it is awful not knowing what is going on. I do hope all is well and that there is a little bean hanging on.
Can I share some good news? It looks like DP was right... I have a BFP !!
Edamame Congratulations! It's terrifying, isn't it, though, I know what you mean! Good luck for a sticky bean and a boring, text-book pregnancy
isabeller what a scare, hope you and your DH have recovered from the shock! There is always something, isn't there!
gum - sooo jealous .
jass Good luck with the doctors today, hope you get some clarity.
Not much from my end - still pg, 4+5 today, and tim eis going sllooooowwwwwlllyyy... I've come to hate this state so much.
Went to the GP this morning to get my consultant referral sorted, to register with the midwives and pick up the forms... It's all so deja-vu. Asked the GP if there is anything I can take/do to avoid mc, but no... But she promised to chase up the referral and make it urgent, I might even be able to speak with the consultant on the phone to then start the heparin injections straight away (I still have the syringes at home, got a 3 month supply last time that I then never used).
Can someone fast-forward me to early September, please?!
Edamame, that's great news!!!!!
I was just getting upset reading an article about declining fertility with age, but it seems this thread is really prolific!!!
Despite trying hard this months I feel some signals AF will be there around thursday and friday.. it's 6 months now and I'm getting nuts.. I'm tempted to test early, I'd rather have a chemical pregnancy than another unsuccesfull cycle.. It would show me I still can get pregnant..
On which CD does it make sense to test?
Anyway Thursday is my dd second birthday and I will try to focus on the party..
Morien I'm glad you're feeling better and really sorry for your grandma..
Isabeller I hope pregnancy will be smoother and uneventful from now on..
Wishing a good time to everybody else!
Edamame, congratulations and have a boring pregnancy!
Jbrd, if I were you and I had the slightest reason to believe clotting was the issue last times, I would start using these heparin injections right now. I have been prescribed them to use from bfp, but in my case it did no help to sustain pregnancy, so I do not have to do it anymore. But I did for about 4 rounds and was advised to do it since bfp.
Hopeful, I have to say hat my 4 yo blond boy gets also far more appreciation from me because of the whole ttc trouble. I guess I am spoiling him and I am also terrified when he has the slightest health problem. Just can not tolerate him being miserable in any way. It must no tube good for him, finally, but I can to help it.
I did not get an ultrasound today. Doctor was fully booked, advised me to go to hospital to try my luck, but I did not have the 4-5 hour time to sit there. Am still getting this dark dark blackish red discharge a mc involves, and am more and more convinced I have leftovers from my blighted ovum. No signs of fever or anything, called a friend doctor in country of origin, She guessed I can wait until I get me on Friday. Then ultrasound ASAP and we will see what next. Curiously, I am not worried, or sad, nothing really. Just living my life and not really bothered.
Congratulations endamame, so great that it happened quickly for you. I hope it is easy sailing for you from here on.
jbrd, I feel for you, those early weeks do seem to move at a snail's pace and it is tortuous. Just remember, "for today I am pregnant".
Unfortunately for me, today, I am not pregnant. It looks like the start of AF today, it's about 13/14 dpo, so right on time. No point in being sad about it, but can't help feeling disappointed. I really do think I am past it, and there is no longer any point in planning a future that includes a new baby. It is better to move on knowing I have given it one hell of a good try but wasn't successful, and if a golden egg manages to get through and fertilize, then I will have a very happy surprise.
I will never try to prevent pregnancy, but I think my days of ttc are well and truly numbered.
Anyway, at least now I can take some travel calm tablets before we get on a boat today. We are leaving Lombok and going back to Bali for four nights. It has been lovely and I am feeling very relaxed. I might even have a few cocktails, as I have had very little alcohol in the last week, at least I can drink now without feeling worried or guilty.
Hang in here mozzamummy, six months may feel like forever, but it really isn't , just keep at it and you will get your bfp - you are nowhere near as ancient as me
Hopeful. I think the big consolation is that at least you are not on contraception, so even if not checking for OV and actively ttc, you would still be having hope! Gradually I guess hope decreases and acceptance increases, at least I feel this way. I am trying to think grandchildren instead and reminding myself that the chance of having a baby I can feel close to increase with my big children getting into their 20ies. It helps a lot, to be honest.
Hello! Gum I think that's a very good point jass makes about you not being on contraception. At least there means there is a chance, and with your proven fertility record if that golden egg is there for anyone it will be you xx
jass sorry to hear you're having to wait for the ultrasound till Friday. Are you still bleeding? You must be feeling very stressed .
edamame many congratulations!!
jbrd hoping you can hang in there and think positive thoughts - the wait must be excruciating. Are you having an early scan? xx
All ok here - 26 weeks. Had mw appointment today, all well, baby head down (not that that means much at this stage) and strong heartbeat. Only issue are my swollen fingers and hands. Wedding and engagement rings well and truly stuck so unless something happens pretty soon and the swelling goes down I'll need to go to a&e and have them cut off....Must try the iced water again...
Love to all xxx
Hi Diege ! Glad to hear all is going well with the little one. It must be uncomfortable having your fingers swell so early on though. I know I had to wear my rings on a chain around my neck towards the end of each pregnancy but I'm sure it was later. Cutting them off seems drastic, but better than cutting off your circulation if you leave them on I suppose!
When do you start mat leave? Are you able to take more time off over the summer now term has finished or do you still have a lot of work to do? Look after yourself!
gum sorry this wasn't your month. Your holiday sounds wonderful, a real experience of a lifetime!
isabeller how are you feeling now,glad everthing turned out ok after your scare.
Jass hope you get some answers soon.
JBrd do you have a date for an early scan?
Mozza have a lovely day celebrating your DD's birthday tomorrow, they are moments to treasure!
CaliBee hope you're ok,it must be tough being apart from your DH. x
Love to all
Hi and thanks for all the good wishes. I'm starting to have some better days and a little bump pushing my spare tyre upwards - easy to disguise but obvious to me. Also desperate to go bra shopping!
It may be the hormones but I am feeling calmer and happier, beginning to really believe that everything will be ok. We have started to tell people and the egg donation no longer seems the biggest part of the story. We are being open about it and have had some very good reactions, especially from my family. When I told them about the unexpected miracle of an egg donor from the same country as my one non-UK grandparent relatives have said 'meant to be' and been incredibly keen.
Positive thoughts to all xx
Hello! That's great news isabeller that you are feeling more confident - it does sound like everything's going well
irish how are things with you? No end of term as such for me unfortunately as our students carry on for the whole year (they have the year broken up with placements). However it is much more relaxed on campus and I can certainly sneak in a few more working from home days
The ring situation is now dire - am trying my upmost to prise them off, but if anything the process makes my finger even more sore. I'll give it another week and then admit defeat.
Love to all - off to do a rain dance now, this heat is killing me!
Thanks diege I have been googling but can't find the method but I'm sure I remember a way to remove a ring using a plastic bag or perhaps clingfilm.
I imagine you must chill the finger under a cold tap at least and get the plastic between the ring and the finger then perhaps use oil or washing up liquid between the plastic and the ring. I think it works because you are using the plastic to pull the ring off and at the same time compressing the finger just above the ring with the plastic.
I imagine a bag would be better than clingfilm and maybe not too hard to wrap just tightly enough to get it under the ring in the first place.
Sorry I can't remember properly but perhaps someone else will. Also thanks for the heads up - my ring is getting tight but is still removable, perhaps I should get into the habit of taking it off at night while I still can.
Diege You might want to try and get someone (professional) to give you a hand massage, to get the swelling down enough to remove the rings. Also, drinking lots of special teas to counteract water retention (can't remember which ones, think nettle is one that does that) could help... I had to stop wearing jewellery towards the end of my pg, but I managed to get all the rings off before it got really bad.
jass How are you getting on, did you manage to see a doctor and/or get a scan?
Hi everyone, hope you are all OK!
Time is going too slowly for me, it's excruciating. 5+2 today, and all I want is to fast forward to 16 weeks or so (12 would do, too). I have no symptoms whatsoever (apart from suffering from caffeine withdrawal).
Not sure if I will want an early scan - unless I start bleeding or anything, of course. But I know from heartbreaking experience that an early scan is no guarantee that it will all be OK... So I don't know if it would reassure me very much.
Having said that, ask me again in 2-3 weeks, and I might say something completely different!
Good Morning ladies.
First morning back at home and feeling so happy to be here. That makes it sound like I didn't enjoy my holiday, which isn't the case, just happy to be in my lovely house, with a new appreciation for all I have.
I guess, also, some parts of the holiday were wearing a bit thin, mainly that almost everyone in our holiday party, bar my DD and me, got sick at some point. It is very common to get "Bali belly" as there are so many new bugs that we haven't encountered before, new foods, it is a third world country etc, but I got very tired of having to be hyper vigilant with the hand sanitiser etc. Anyway, on the last night we went to this amazing, gorgeous restaurant perched up above a river, that served stunning food, and my Dd (16) spent most of the evening with her head over the toilet bowl at the restaurant! Poor thing, it just came on suddenly. Thank goodness she'd stopped vomiting by morning as we had an early plane to catch.
So I have a new appreciation for the level of hygiene,and the lack of nasty tummy bugs back here in Australia. And I reckon I just had the best night's sleep in ages.
I have woken with a renewed vigour for ttc would you believe!? I know I had come to some kind of acceptance whilst I was away, but for some reason, back here I suddenly feel that I shouldn't give up the dream after all.
I know this desire/acceptance etc is a bit of a roundabout (you must get sick of me harping on about it), but I am just sharing my feelings (which I can't do anywhere else).
Not that a renewed vigour means very much, I won't actually be getting any medical assistance or anything, but I feel a new lease of energy rather than an exhaustion, IYKWIM?
Maybe it is just a habit, it felt very odd looking at my chart at FF with no temps for the last two weeks, and I think I may pull out the thermometer tomorrow morning.
I am still realistic about my chances, they are so slim at my age, and I am approaching my 47th birthday, but I still believe there may be a nice golden egg int here, and I might as well give it a good shot.
Jbrd, I completely understand how you feel. I had early scans and was told the hearbeat was perfect and the chances of miscarrying were only 5%. I was told this both times that I miscarried, so I don't know that I'd find a scan all that helpful. I often think if I get pregnant again I won't want a scan until 12 weeks, but on the other hand, I will be so stressed I will probably want to see what's going on inside. It's a dilemma, I know. You have my sympathy. ((hugs))
Deige, your tight rings sound awful. You poor thing. I know how much the heat can make a difference. I have very loose rings, but in Bali they were tight the entire time, now home, they are loose again. I had to remove mine quite early in pregnancy, they got tight too fast. I do hope you can find a solution that doesn't involve cutting them off. Is there a mountain nearby that you could visit where the weather is much cooler? Perhaps just for a couple of days? In a nice hotel, with room service...
Morning! Gum I know that 'happy to be home' holiday feeling all to well, and if you have been surrounded by sickness it must be a massive relief not to be surrounded by the constant threat of it! At least you didn't get it. I understand too your renewed enthusiasm for ttc-ing - no worries about being away when pregnant etc - I will be keeping everything crossed for that golden egg! I think I've mentioned a friend of a friend who fell pregnant accidently with triplets at 47? (48 when born), and who already had 6 (grown up) children? Massive shock for her but does show it can be done.
Thanks jbrd and isabeller for the getting-rings-off tips. The plastic bag one does sound as if it would work, though at this point in time I can't even turn them let alone get anything underneath. However, weather has cooled here today so may have another go with the iced water tonight.
Hello, it's good to find this thread. I wonder if you can advise. I've scanned the thread and although I see that some of your ages, I'd be interested to know if you are trying while knowing you have a fairly healthy hormonal profile? As in, your FSH is low and your AMH is not low!
I am 43, have an FSH around 30, and an AMH that suggests negligible fertility. I have a 3 year old. I have resigned myself to the fact that I won't have any more children but obviously, as you all know, acceptance is not a black and white thing when it comes to babies and I have days, like today, where I don't want to accept it.
Was just looking for any similar backgrounds? But maybe wrong thread...
Thanks and good luck to you all
Hello catchafox, I think there is a range of hormonal profiles on this thread. I don't know what my FSH is at the moment, and don't want to know. I had it measured more than a year ago and it was 12. I expect it would be higher now. My AMH was very low. But my progesterone is okay.
So I suppose I don't have a great hormonal profile, but many women do get pregnant with crappy hormonal results and many women with great results don't get pregnant.
Have you heard of the book by Julia Indochiva, Inconceivable? She had an FSH of 42 at age 42, but did have a child. It is a very good read.
I think this thread would be a great support to you if you are ttc. We all have hurdles to mount on our quest for a baby, and as you have probably read from scanning the thread some of us are particularly challenged (me - being so damned old ).
I have starting taking my temperature again today. It was very low. I was hoping for a miraculously high temperature and a miraculous bfp, despite having seen AF (it does happen, right??), because I felt a bit nauseous last night. It is more likely a result of the holiday excesses or some nasty little Balinese germ...Feel fine now. A girl can hope...
I have to go in to work today. Feels like an assault having to actually work, and then do grocery shopping and cook meals etc. I wish I could have brought home a lovely Balinese lady to cook and clean and babysit for me. They were so amazing and graceful and sweet.
Oh well, back to the real world.
Just a quick catchup.....and a biiiig hello to all those that know me.
Congrats to all those bfp's and my sympathies to our pregnant ladies in this heat.
Well my month without clomid did in fact result in ovulation on cd20....how ridiculous am I getting my hopes up in the 2ww knowing full well that no sex means no baby . Its only 4 weeks until DH is home now and another week after that until we move. I'm kind of looking forward to it but also dreading leaving all my friends and family behind and not having my own income. It seems weird that I havent seen DH for over a month now.
Poo to the army and poo to ttc.
catchafox I'm 43 aswell. My fsh was 20 and my amh was negligible in last years tests, but I did get pregnant in December on my first month of clomid. Fingers crossed for you x
Hi, thanks for the replies. I've never considered using Clomid. Do you have to see a consultant to have it prescribed or is it something a doctor can do? In what circumstances do you use it - and are their horrible side effects? I think I remember there is increased chances of multiples which doesn't bode well!
AF again for me...
Today I'm also dealing with my daughter's tantrums .. ..
catchafox welcome! I never tested AMH but FSH seems ok, still I've been ttc for several months with no results.. I find ttc really menthally exhausting.. but I'm not ready to give up yet!
I'm now wondering wether to have a short holiday at the seaside with dd without dp at the end of august even if it's my fertile period..
I can't put my life on hold and especially dd's, but I'm so scared to miss the famous golden egg... .. and it's not easy to change the dates either.. Any wise suggestion from you ladies?
Hello everyone! Can I join in?
Had my DS 6 weeks before my 40th birthday and have desperately wanted to try for another ever since. My DH wasn't keen. It's taken me over 2 years to convince him and now, at last, we are TTC number 2. Feel excited that we're finally giving it a go but realise at 42 it might not happen. Had problems TTC DS. Hormone levels were fine but AMH test showed my ovarian reserve was extremely poor which ruled out IVF if we couldn't conceive on our own. Fell pregnant but had a MC at 12 weeks. Got pregnant again first cycle after MC and had my lovely boy 9 months later.
So... here we go again. My DH assumes all will be well ( despite our history) but I'm less convinced. Hoping this thread will provide lots of happy stories to keep my hopes up.
Hi to new ones!
The Amh an fsh results are quite misleading ( fortunately). Lots of crap result people get bfps. That is why my doc does not read much into them, and I believe her. My own are hopeless, yet I conceive often enough.
Hope our pregnant ladies have all only good news. I would definitely want an early scan, but of course I am the one who would think myself out of the woods if I saw a heartbeat. But that only because I have never miscarried a heartbeat. So I really get those who would not want a early scan. I feel like I would like to postpone testing, so I would not see chemicals. But I can not, since need to do support from early days....
Anyway, my chem turned out to be an honest chem, no leftovers from blighted ovum, so doc thinks it was just a new chemical. Did betas today, will hear results tomorrow and repeat in a week, to rule out diseases wich give pos hpts without pregnancy. Can you imagine a country exists where you get an appointment fot tomorrow, ask and get an ultrasound there and then, based on your talk and no doc tries to tell you their own version of things without thoroughly testing your own version first. And all for 53 euros, us incl. I love my native country and its medical system. My friends were all on holiday, so had to go to a random doc, and it was totally ok.
Good morning all.
Calibee it is nice to see you. It is great that you ovulated on your own, but a bummer there were no swimmers. But it is great, so that when you see DH you can get straight into ttc again. I hope the time moves quickly. I know it will be hard leaving your old life behind, but a new life with your DH will be wonderful.
Welcome to guthriegirl. I love your name as I have a son called Guthrie.
I hope you don't have to ttc for to long, but whatever the time, you will have great support on this thread.
mozzamummy, so sorry about AF. I understand your dilemma about taking dd to the seaside at fertile time, but like you say, you can't keep putting life on hold, and it may be just what you need.
I am having a day off today. Crazy, as I have just returned from holidays, but it seems I didn't escape the holiday without illness after all. I have a fresh headcold, nasty headache and gastro too! Not impressed. I plan to stay on the couch all day with some dvd's and the telly.
At least everyone else will be at school and work, so I can just be sick and relax.
Hello everyone, just back from a lovely week in the UK (even my Grandma's funeral was lovely in the end - a real celebration of a very full life, with loads of people there).
hopeful, poor you - hope you feel better soon.
Hello catchfox and guthriegirl, welcome.
Wow, calibee, your move is getting close now! I understand that you feel apprehensive about leaving everyone - but for a whole new life with your lovely DH I had to smile about your being excited in the 2WW even though your DH hadn't been around to DTD at the right time - I've done that too
jass, glad you've got some clarity at last and that things seem to be ok.
mozzarellamummy go on that holiday! Am sorry AF has got you.
jbrd I'm with you about wanting time to speed up. I'm 10.3 and the last 5 weeks have gone sooooo slowly. I've got my scan on Friday - am extremely nervous, so scared it's going to be dead. Trying not to think about it. Regarding early scans, I had one in both pregnancies because that's what happens here - when you find out you're pg you go to your gynae, who does an internal scan as a matter of course. Both times I've seen a heartbeat, but the second time it didn't reassure me at all as the first time I miscarried well after that.
My sister announced her pregnancy on Friday - I was at my mum's and DSis came straight from her scan to tell us the good news (she'd already told my mum at 5 weeks). I was dying to tell her I'm just behind her, but I kept quiet as I really don't want anyone to know until after the scan. It struck me, though, how it's so different for my DSis (she's nearly 39), never having had a miscarriage. She's had one easy, succesful pregnancy and has no reason to believe this will be any different. She's happy and confident, whilst I'm a doubting bag of nerves (not usual for me at all).
Meanwhile, we're getting married a week on Saturday!
Hello again and thanks for the welcome! Understand completely where you're coming from Morien. When I found out I was pregnant after my MC I had a brief moment of utter delight followed by a tsunami of anxiety. My pregnancy was, in hindsight, quite straightforward but I spent the whole time worried and convincing myself that I would stop feeling anxiety at 12 weeks, then 20, then 24 and so on. If I'm lucky enough to conceive again I know I'll be exactly the same too. Good luck with the scan and, of course, your wedding.
Morten, congratulations on wedding and of course the scan will be fabulous!
Reading about anxiety in pregnancy makes me think that if that is the way it's going to be after mc I am not sure I can do it. I was as Morien's sis - at 38, with my last successful pg, I told everyone at positive hpt. Did the same with my first mc, and had a lot of untelling to do after. Beurk! It was worse than actual mc then, since it was my first and I really thought it will happen in a few months time and I will walk happily away to sunset with the next pg. I remember disappointment, but no devastation at all then.
Calibee, hope your move will be smooth. And mozarellamummy, go for these holidays. It is never worth postponing life, unless you really did some procedures. But yet another cycle.... There will be next one.
I am feeling a lot better today, though not 100%, but will have to go to work as I have had two days off, any more time and I will need a doctor's certificate. I will see how things go today.
Morien how amazing that you and DS are having babies around the same time. So nice! And very exciting about your wedding so soon! Do you feel organised? I can't wait to hear all the details.
All this hoo-ha about the royal baby, and two days on the couch watching "Offspring" (a fabulous Aussie TV drama about an obstetrician and her family) has made me so broody. It is the pits being broody and having about 1% chance of getting preggers. I really thought that going on an overseas holiday I would embrace the idea of moving on to a different life,you know, being more free to travel, not having the responsibility of a small baby/child. I have tried to look at it that way, and even felt a bit of acceptance while away, but in all honesty, I still don't feel completely ready to move on to that next stage. Of course I don't get to make that decision ultimately, do I, as I can't control the fact that my body is older and less fertile?
I am not feeling bad about it, just noticing that my feelings towards having another child are still strongly in favour (and wishing things could be different).
I hope everyone else is doing okay. How are you feeling Jbrd? I hope this time isn't dragging too much.
How are the other pregnant ladies? Updates please....
mozzamummy, did you decide whether you will take DD to the seaside? It sounds like a lovely thing to do with her.
I will definitely go on that holiday, I still hope either me or DP can move a couple of days to meet during the fertile window.. It will be just around the anniversary of the loss of my baby so I know it will be hard anyway..
..probably I will also be freaking about school, I'll start to teach to 14 yrs old students in september.. I will have over 200 students, split in 9 classes.. how will I ever be able to remember thier names or surnames?? For now I'm reviewing physics and planning lessons..
I had a lovely dinner with DP yesterday night, leaving DD with grand parents.. it happens maybe once every two months and this time it was really nice.. I managed to control myself and didn't bother him with TTC issues ..
Diege, what about your rings?
Cali, happy to hear you again!
Jass, I'm happy you had such a good care.. In diffucult moments it's such a difference to have caring and professional people in front of you ..
A virtual pat to all the lovely bumps here!!!
mozzamummy, you will be surprised, eventually you will remember most of your students. 9 classes does seem a lot. A full time teacher here would have a maximum of about 6. At the moment I only teach 3 classes, the rest of my time I do personal tutoring to indigenous students. It is a great part of my job, very little lesson preparation, no discipline issues and usually one on one or small groups.
Yesterday I started teaching anatomy to my health Ed class, which is hilarious as I am an English teacher I really enjoy the Health classes though as I have always had an interest in it and I am learning too.
Your dinner with DP sounds nice. It is good to reconnect with our partners when we can.
I think I might be getting close to O time again. My DH will be enjoying extra sexual attention over the next few days. I am sad to admit that I don't really have much of an appetite when I am not close to fertile time. Anyway, I hope there's a decent egg and some good swimmers. I'd be so happy to get a bfp for a change. It has been too long.
Deige, did you get your rings off?
I was half way through a post and the computer just decided to shut my browser so now I'm having to start again.
Morien, I hope all is well at your scan, looking forward to reading about it. How lovely your Dsis is expecting too.
JBrd, I can understand why it feels like such a long time til September for you, I thought you were further along than you are. I'm sending you vibes that this is the sticky one.
Calibee, good to hear from you, I know it must be dragging for you, but it seems like your DH Canada posting is going quite quickly, our perceptions of time can be really strange though.
Isabeller, how nice to be able to tell people and get such positive reactions. I hope your pregnancy is as dull as possible from now on.
Gum, your holiday sounds lovely despite the sickness, sorry you didn't get away with it after all.
Congratulations on your BFP edamame, and good luck.
Any luck with the rings Diege? My fingers are ok, and I take my rings off at night anyway, as I sometimes get a rash under them (no idea why), but my ankles get very swollen, especially the right one, which I've sprained a few times in the past. I also think I may have some fluid on my right knee as I can't take my weight on it in a specific place, and occasionally forget if I'm getting up off the floor or something, which is really painful. Otherwise I'm feeling ok, though a bit lethargic probably due to heat. I finished work last week, I could have done this weekend but as DH is away with work, it just seemed easier to take leave. Work itself was fine, it was the walking 4-5 miles a day (not all at once) in the heat that I was starting to struggle with, and nothing'll get me on the tube when it's really hot. I'm 35 weeks now, so I think the next few weeks will fly by.
Hi jass, mozzarella, irish, notsoold and anyone I've missed, and welcome to the newbies, I hope your stay is short.
Back from the hospital - everything was fine
This morning I was so nervous I could hardly speak (DP gave up trying to distract me by talking to me and just kept squeezing my hand), and during the fairly long wait I was fighting back tears. When I got in there, all I wanted was for the sonographer to confirm that the baby was alive but instead he pointed out how wriggly it was (with hindsight, it wouldn't wriggle if it weren't alive ), and then he took the nuchal measurement and said it was absolutely fine (again, he wouldn't have bothered on a dead baby, presumably), and he was about to embark on further measurements when I could stand it no longer and gasped, 'but is his heart beating?', at which he laughed and said, 'not half!' I managed to croak that I'd had a MC last year, at which he patted my arm and immediately turned the sound up so we could hear the heartbeat. That was it - I burst into tears. When he'd finished he gave me another pat and said he couldn't see the least reason to be the tiniest bit worried.
Went to see the gynae afterwards just across the corridor, and he says the scan puts me a bit further along than I thought, almost 12 weeks instead of almost 11. And the other piece of good news is that there are in fact 2 places in Belgium, both in Brussels, which offer the Harmony test; he gave me their details and I've made an appointment for Wednesday morning. Same as it would have cost me in London, without the Eurostar fare
Anyway, how are the rest of you? I'm thinking maybe now I can go and join the 40+ pregnancy group (didn't feel ready before), but I won't be staying away from this lovely group, I don't think.
diege your rings are bothering me! Please tell us you've got them off...
sparkly I can't believe you're 35 weeks! Hope you enjoy your time off before the baby comes.
hopeful fingers crossed for that golden egg this time! You deserve it for sheer persistence apart from anything else.
How are you doing jbrd ?
Hello to everyone else!
Congratulations Morien. So pleased scan went well. I bet you're looking forward to sharing your news with your sister and other friends and family.
that's just great Morien - delighted for you!
Love to everyone. Been reading not much to say at the moment. My gynae was sure I didnt have a cyst (it was GP who suggested this). He gave me thorough internal and said nothing to worry about... We'll see... decided we need to put some effort into ttc or we might regret it later. Awaiting delivery of DHEA...
Morien, that is wonderful news. I am so pleased for you. 12 weeks already, wow, that seems to have flown. Yes, join the pregnancy group as you are PREGNANT!! But don't stay away, I always miss ladies who go off to the pregnancy thread and don't come back (I have seen so many leave,as I still wait patiently).
Hi, Sparkly, if you are on Mat leave, then you must be getting close to delivery. How many weeks are you now?
Isadorable, I hope the DHEA helps. I tried it for a while as I had heard great things about it affecting egg quality. I hope it works for you.
I think I am ovulating quite early (I am day 12 now) as I had egg white yesterday, and O pain last night (after DTD, which means it was good timing). I know I should go again tonight, but my DH will start asking questions after such a drought (about three weeks). We are going out to friends for dinner, so I will have a couple of drinks and perhaps it will all just fall into place? At least I have had a couple of goes at it at the right time.
It is the weekend here, and we are back into the being busy. DD has a netball game today and I will swim laps while she plays, then out to dinner tonight. Tomorrow we are out for lunch. Somewhere between all this I need to do the laundry, tidy up and finish unpacking.
Love to all.
Oops, sorry Sparkly, I see you are 35 weeks. Only 5 weeks to go!
Hopeful....oh my!! You are having a busy Saturday!!! I personally think that a drink sounds like a good idea!!! Xxx
Isadorable... Good news! No cyst!!! When can you go back tp ttc??? Xxx
Morien.....I second hopeful suggestion ...come and join the pregnancy thread. Well done!!! Xxx
Jbrd hello my lovely!! How are you doing???xxx
Sparkly 35 weeks...wow!!! Almost there!!! Xxx
Cali....how is everything going??xxx
Diege...what happened about the ring???? Xxx
Irish hope you ate ok<3 xxx
A big hello to everyone else.!!!
I am 27 weeks pg now and diagnosed as borderline diabetic during the pregnancy. Changing my diet this week.
Also I was told that I will not go over 40 weeks and extra scans to avoid a big baby.
I thought that ds was big because of dh but was told that 9'9 was away too big for a Brazilian girl. As baby 1 (dd) as 7'7 and ds 9'9 they are convinced that this will be bigger .....I don't know....will see
Take care all of you and I am a faithful reader and lurker here!!!
Have a great weekend!!!
Ds and dh are in Gibraltar, but never mind because it is sunny in Manchester and I am having a rest from housework!!!
Lovely to read everyones's news and beaming positive thoughts to everyone ttc.
I'm very tired but feeling well. Rather a lot going on and the car died a death this morning, oh dear. Nuchal scan on Wednesday, wondering if I can cycle...
Hello! Lovely to catch up with everyone's news - morien what brilliant news, you must feel over the moon xx
isabeller I'm sure everything will be fine at the nuchal - more likely to be so than not. I can remember how anxious the wait is though xx
Gum I would say a few drinks at friends and then back for the business would seem very natural - plus as you say swimmers should be in place anyway ...
notsoold interesting about the borderline diabetes and concerns about a big baby. Concerns were also raised with me as after three 7 pounders dc4 was 9lb 11 - back to 7ib 12 with dc5 though, so not a forgone conclusion that your next will be bigger still. Is the nutritician plan you're on quite restrictive?
sparkly wow, your pregnancy has really flown! I don't blame you at all for starting leave now, especially with the prospect of an overheated commute on the tube. I am theoretically carrying on until 37 weeks but can't see myself completing the commute tbh - the work is fine, just to getting there and back on public transport!
Well, the rings....still on but no better. They don't hurt much, and the blood is getting through, so tempted just to see it out unless they seem to get worse. Not the most attractive sight in the world and certainly a talking point. 28 weeks on Tuesday and seeing consultant so will ask then.
Storm on the way here - yay!!!
Isabeller... Isn't the nuchal scan the one at 12 weeks??? If it is you will need a full bladder, won't you??? So if you just get to the hospital a lit earlier you can top up there. Xxx I offer my hand as I was a bag of nerves on the day!!!
Diege....very restrictive on the things I like... Fruit mainly and starchy things, and I am missing my baking....well
Good luck with the ring!!! Mine came out on the 8 week!!!
I will be nearly 14 weeks notsoold on Wednesday so right near the limit of when it can be done I think. I've got GTT in the morning then scan in the afternoon so I can check if I need a full bladder but can't remember it being mentioned before.
Hello to all
So lovely to see all our pregnant ladies are coming along nicely.....although I expect the recent heat has been a killer.
So af due for me imminently. Its all very weird though, as since mc (January) I dont seem to get any symptoms of pms. I used to get seriously sore boobs, this month I have had absolutely nothing. I'm beginning to worry there is something else amiss. Any ideas anyone?
I'm still in this limbo land between moving...dh still in Canada (I haven't even spoken to him in over a week) however the end is in sight, just three weeks until he is home. I wonder if I will recognise him lol.
Oh...and I've now lost 2 stone. Maybe he won't recognise me hehe.
2 stone!!! That's fantastic, calibee, well done! Does your DH know? As for AF after MC, of course you could always get it checked out to give you some peace of mind, but that's pretty much what happened to me - it took ages for my cycle to be recognisable as my cycle again.
Isabeller all the best for your nuchal scan!
notsoold poor you with your restrictive diet - it'll be worth it, though
Wow calibee 2 stones is a sensational loss! Can I ask if you followed any particular eating plan?
Good luck with your scan isabeller. I was ok with an empty bladder with mine, but wouldn't have been if at NHS - depends on the machines they use I think . My nuchal was at 13 w 6 days which I think is the final day it's accurate - I was told to expect it to measure bigger than it would at say 12 weeks, simply because baby was bigger - worth bearing in mind.
Hi morien, how are you feeling?
Off to brave the cinema with the 4dcs at home (dc 5 cruelly left in nursery ). Will def need a lie down when I get home...
Love to all xxx
Hello everyone, just quickly popping my head round the door <<waves>>
Not much to report - I'm still pregnant But coming up to the point where both my mcs started to kick off, so feeling very twitchy
I'm 6+5 today, still so early, and still worried it'll all go wrong again. I'm seeing the consultant and the mw this week, so at least that's good news. I've not made it to my booking apt in both my last pregnancies... Getting very superstitious.
Sorry for not name-checking, but really need to get on with work!
Hope everyone's OK!
Good morning ladies!
Calibee that's an amazing weight loss! Well done. Want to give us some details of how you did it? Your DH will have trouble recognising youI am guessing with such a huge weight loss you will need to purchase new clothes, perhaps a cute little underwear ensemble
Jbrd, I am glad your pregnancy is still ticking along. I completely understand your feeling twitchy. I hope the next few weeks pass trouble free.
Deige, how did your trip to the cinema go? You will need a lie down when you get in - you earnt it! Which movie did you see? I recently saw Dispicable Me 2, which was fun.
Not much going on here. Yesterday was my day off and I had a good going over the kitchen. Scrubbed it from top to bottom as it was pretty awful. Felt so good to have that done. It was also my first "fast day". I had to keep busy. I am trying the Michael Moseley "fast diet". It is supposed to contribute to a longer life, less chance of getting diabetes, cancer, hypertension (all of which are my heritage). Honestly though, I am doing it to move the 10 kilos I still need to lose to get into the healthy BMI range. However, if it seems to interfere with ovulation (I will find out next cycle) I will stop. The reading I have done on it is contradictory. I have read that it does no harm to fertility and in fact can enhance it, but also have read that whilst the body is experiencing "famine" it is unlikely you will be fertile. I don't consider the fast diet to be a "famine" as you eat normally for five days a week.I have only done one day, so we shall see how it goes.
How is everyone else going? Is anyone getting close to testing?
I am only 3 DPO. Sore 's but I seem to have them every cycle. Fertility Friend says if I were to get preggers this cycle, I would be due April 19. I have had three successful pregnancies that were due April/May, so I am hoping that it bodes well for me.
Off to rub my beautiful silver fertility statues I bought in Lombok. (Yes, I am completely bonkers!)
Morning! Hold on in there jbrd - can understand your anxieties totally but it will help I'm sure to see the mw/consultant this week, if only to voice any anxieties you might have. Might they do an early scan?
Gum It was indeed Despicable Me 2 we saw . I thought it was pretty good, although I did fall asleep for a few mins midway through Was impressed that ds1 (age 4) sat through it all and seemed quite taken with the whole thing - a record for him! Re: the fasting diet, I wouldn;t say it would have an effect on ovulation. I know a little about nutrition, having some qualification in it years ago, and do remember reading that it takes more than we might imagine for dietary changes for Westerners to effect fertility (ie., prevent ovulation). Something about losing a (quite substantial) percentage of body mass which I don't think would necessarily happen with the plan you're on. Sounds quite tough though - any leeway for treats?
Have been up since 5,30 this morning and have been at my desk since 8.30...feel very sleepy due to staying up to watch documentary on the 'baby born in a concentration camp'...Why can that wide-awake seciond wind feeling you get late at night never extend to the morning??!!
What kind of diet do you have to follow notsoold? I am starting to feel anxious about the Glucose test tomorrow and just want to have a calmer idea of what I'll have to do if it did turn out positive for gestational diabetes. After seeing a dietician yesterday my brain is awash worries about podge induced problems.
You must be so looking forward to getting reacquainted with DH Calibee
Good luck with the new regime hopeful, just before BFP I found out about and started the fast diet and I wouldn't have stopped except for all the strong advice not to diet in pregnancy. It was definitely starting to work and was something I could stick to despite my lack of regular routine. Unfortunately I discovered it too late to get my prepregnancy weight to a better level hence my present worries.
Do you think it might be possible to lose fat in pregnancy with a high nutrition restricted calorie diet diege?
Ps meant to say crossing fingers for you JBrd that the next few weeks - and months - pass smoothly xx
Hi isabeller! To be honest the only eating 'regime' I would recommend in pregnancy would be Slimming World - it's recommended by Royal College of Midwives and focuses on low fat but generally quite volumous amount of food - treats allowed too! I have followed it between pregnancies and lost quite a lot of weight, and am also trying my best to follow it now (there are modifications for pregnant women). I'm not sure I'd recommend a calorie-restricted diet in pregnancy, but I do know women who have actually ended up lighter than pre-pregnancy/put on minimal weight in pregnancy with SW, and also lost body fat.
Good luck with the GI test! Had mine a few weeks back and all well, though did struggle a bit with the fasting!
Good Morning ladies.
I am on my second fast day today and I think it might be a struggle. I have a blood test this morning (just routine to check cholesterol and blood sugar), so I can't even have a cup of tea. I could get through my fast day before with copious amounts of black tea. Also had a horrible night's sleep as I seem to have sciatica.The pain is awful, all down my left leg.It seems so silly to have it when I haven't done anything to cause it. It started as I was pushing the shopping trolley around the supermarket So feeling tired is not a great way to do a fast, I always eat to compensate for tiredness, today will be tough.
To add to my woes, I also have to take DS to the doctor this morning as he hasn't been well for a while now. He has had a cough since the beginning of our holiday and now has intermittent fevers and headaches. I do hope it is nothing tropical and sinister like malaria, though I think malaria would give you constant fevers, wouldn't it? There I go catastrophising again. So it is another day off for me today, which means I have to sort out some lesson plans...bugger.
On the up side, I did have a nice temperature rise this morning.
I would like to take anti-inflammatories for the sciatica, but I recently read there needs to be a certain amount of inflammation for implantation, so I am afraid to take them in case it stuffs up implantation chances. I know it is a long shot, but I would like to give myself the best chance. SO I guess I will be taking paracetemol all day. the pain of sciatica is just so horrible. I wonder if a chiropractor could help me?
Oh dear, sorry this post is all about me
Isabeller, I know of some ladies who lost weight during pregnancy just by eating a sensible, balanced diet and leaving out junk. I always find that hard when pregnant due to the massive cravings and food aversions I have. How long did you try the "fast" diet for? Hopefully I will get a BFP shortly after starting it too
Right, I better think of something for my classes today!
Hi Gum! Hope you're feeling ok; quite a full-on day for you - sciatica is the worst . Could you try codeine-based meds? They're fine in pregnancy (except at the very end) and seem to have a quite a good effect on moderate to severe pain (for me at least). Maybe you could have a quick word with the doc when taking ds?
28 weeks here today; always feels like a milestone! Have the dentists this morning which I get irrationally worried about, but am also taking dd3 so need to have a brave face for her sake
gum sorry you're feeling so rubbish..I also had sciatica and couldn't sleep properly.. finally it stopped without any particular effort, so I hope it will be the same for you! And hope everything will be fine with DS too, please update us..
Isabeller when pregnant with dd1 I was slightly overweight and my skinny gynae pushed me to lose weight, after her birth I was 7 kg under my pre-pregnancy weight. I cut off all sweet stuff and reduced bread and pasta.. I tried to eat a good amount of meat even if I'm not a fan..and I ate huge amounts of melon and watermelon to keep me hydrated..
Now the weight has come back but that's another story.. I'd really like to lose one stone mainly to improve long term health.. I also started 5:2 diet but then stopped because worried about ovulation issues (actually I needed a good excuse to stop anyway!!)
I should be on my fertile days and my EWCM seems to have come back after a couple of months break..so I can't avoid stupidly raising my hopes.. However yesterday I was so tired that I started to worry if I ever manage to get pregnant I may not have the energy for raising properly another child .. my 2 yrs old is now rather energy consuming.. .. Has any of you ever had such thoughts?
Sorry to hear you and ds both not feeling well hopeful..I hope all goes well at Dr's today.
is my sister had such severe hyperemesis during her pregnancy that she was half a stone lighter postnatally.
I confess to losing my weight using the cambridge diet...I said I would never do it again after piling it back on after losing £.5 st 3 years ago....but on reflection of course I will pile weight on if I eat the crap I do. This is a quick fix to give me a kick start...once DH home the healthy eating and exercise plan begin in ernest. I have tried the 5:2 plan but I'm ana impatient soul who needs to see fast results to get the umph to carry on.
Question for you ladies (bearing in mind no clomid this cycle and NO sex booo) I am 16dpo with a sustained temp shift following 2 pos opk's. Temp still up, mild cramps but no af yet...hmmmm. My Lp is usually 13 days one or two 14 dayers over the last year but never this long. Any ideas?? I do have some mild cramping, boobs are perhaps the teensy eensiest bit sore but nothing else.
Mozarella, I am on holidays pretty much in the middle of nowhere, lots of beach, sunshine, playing in sand with my 4 and 8 yos, and I catch myself thinking a lot about my ability to grow through the early (first 6, I think ) years of childrearing. But it only gives me a relaxing holiday, back on the wagon in September, I guess. Meanwhile eating all the stuff I want, running occasionally, swimming and doing nothing. Also forgetting about Internet - but still came by to see all pregnancies progressing nicely. Every pregnant lady here adds to my happy mind nowadays, I have to say. And I bumped into school friend who has a first child aged 11mo, so really last minute decision to have some family, and She was in such a regretting mood about not having more. I said She still can, but she preferred to keep herself ready to the negative scenario, in case no new pregnancies. Realize every day more and more I am happy as I am......
Utterly knackering day at hospital but excellent results. Scan good, no gestational diabetes found, dietician approved modified 5:2. to all xx
Hi lovely ladies. Thanks for your thoughts. I am fine really, just having a whinge yesterday.
It seems that the painkillers will do the trick, and I did resort to anti-inflammatories last night. I slept very well with no pain at all. And I am up this morning without pain too. Fingers crossed it is better (though I doubt it). I went for a long swim last night while DD was at netball training. My leg hurt a bit while I swam, but I was pain free afterwards for about an hour, so perhaps that helped?
Saw the doctor about DS (didn't even cross my mind to discuss my woes) and she said he has a very red throat and an upper respiratory tract infection. She didn't prescribe antibiotics, stating it was caused by a virus. But we are to keep an eye on him, particular the intermittent fevers as we have just returned from Lombok, and there's a chance of malaria. I don't think he has it, but we'll get him checked out asap if the fevers continue. I think I'll send him to school today and see how he goes.
Mozza, I often have those same thoughts when I am tired. But I had them when I was ttc DS too, and though there have been some tough days, dragging my arse around the place, you do manage and I still feel that it has been so worthwhile. He is almost 5 now and not a day goes by where I don't feel 100% grateful to have him in my life. I am so glad I
badgered encouraged my DH to have a vasectomy reversal and to ttc my little boy. He's brought so much joy to our family. I suppose that is why I haven't given up ttc again. I just know in my heart that it would be wonderful for our family to have another little person join us.
Isabeller, I am so pleased to hear that all is well Please tell me about your modified 5:2, I'd love to hear about it.
I managed my second fast day quite well, though after swimming I did feel very hungry. I think I may have gone a bit over the 500 calories as I had a banana at the end of the day.But I don't feel bad about it, I did expend a bit of energy swimming a kilometer.I know on the diet they say not to factor that in, but I don't care. You have to do what works for you.
Calibee, I am curious about the Cambridge diet. I've never heard of it, but I will google it soon.It sounds like it definitely works.
Back to work today. I am feeling increasingly disorganised after having three days off in the last week and a half. I have no idea what I'll be teaching today. Flying by the seat of my pants I think. Then I am driving some of the netball girls to a nearby town for a game. It is going to be a long day, but at least I won't be fasting
Hope the class went well gum - some of my best lectures are 'seat of the pants' ones . Has the sciatica kept away? Hope ds is ok - sounds like quite a nasty virus.
Had consultant appointment today - all ok, though placenta's still low...consultant convinced it will move up by 34 weeks scan though . Baby fine though, measuring a week ahead and still head down...would be sod's law that the only one of my babies head down at 34 weeks will have a blasted placenta blocking the exit route
Hope everyone is ok - the sun has made an very unwelcome and sneaky return here today: nearly 30 degrees!
Hi Diege, classes went well, thankfully. You know I think it helps to have a relaxed,positive attitude. Things always seem to go well when I am feeling "cruisey". Actually, a funny thing happened. Whilst my year nine class were happily working away I was having a quick look at mumsnet at my desk (purely research for one of the topics ) when the school psych stealthily appeared at my side (looking for a student), so she would have got an eyeful of what I was doing. Opps!
DS seems okay - he went to kindy and made it through the day, so hopefully he'll continue to mend. He will be at daycare today, which he loves and was cross about missing it on Wednesday.
I took DD and friends to their netball game yesterday. Gosh, I had a headache after traveling 50 km with four teenage girls in the car. I should have put earplugs in.Anyway, the game went very well, they played the hardest team in their grade and only lost by 2 points. They work together as a team so well, it's lovely to watch.
I can't believe I actually slept in until 6:45 this morning. I almost never do.And usually I feel like jumping out of bed, but today I felt like I could have snuggled for a lot longer. The sciatica seems to be just an echo now - dull and hardly there. Which is miraculous because it was so uncomfortable. Fingers crossed it stays away.
I am glad to hear all is ok with baby. Are you feeling worried about the low lying placenta? I suppose in your shoes I would feel a bit concerned, but also hopeful that the consultant knows his stuff and the placenta will be out of the way by the time baby is ready to be born.
Hello to everyone else. I must get moving, after my big sleep in this morning, not much time to get ready for work.
Hi gum! Totally agree about mental attitude really effecting how a teaching session goes. If I'm stressed/worried about something and can't put on a brave face it really does influence how the session goes. Have learnt from experience and try to be super positive when I go through the door; it's only IT fails that I really struggle with! Hope your session well today - sounds like you needed your sleep; maybe the hold catching up with you x
Re: placenta, I would be quite anxious if I had to have a section, purely based on the bad experience of one that I had with dc4. There's absolutely nothing I can do though that will effect the outcome, so trying to take some comfort from that...At least it would make childcare arrangements a little easier knowing when baby was going to be born!
Hello, can I sneak onto this thread? I am 3 months off 40 but my DH is 41 now. We have been ttc for 3 years on and off, no NHS help in this part of the uk unfortunately :-( so I am having a lap and dye in September as I have severe endo (had it since teens).
Recently we stopped ttc as the scans showed that one ovary was embedded in my bowel (the scan doctor thought I'd had it removed!!!) and I've had a log of pain. The consultant is an endo specialist and has done bowel surgery before but I don't know if he's planning doing any with me or if he'll stick to the lap and dye.
I feel too nervous to try getting pregnant with an ovary stuck in my bowel, it hurts a bit and I imagine having a baby growing inside of me might hurt more. I could be wrong though.
I fluctuate between really wanting a baby and thinking it would be a crazy thing to do!!! My DH really wants children badly though, although we have been together 20 years and he used to say he wasn't bothered.
Anyway, that's me. I don't post here much but I lurk about a bit. I can't really talk to anyone irl so it's nice to bob on and off at times and catch up. Hope everyone's having a good Sunday. I gotta start work in a mo :-(
I only have a little experience with 5:2 hopeful.
I was on 5:2 for less than 3 months and it took several tries to manage 500 calories without feeling uncomfortably ravenous by the end of the day but I lost 10lbs which was my first genuine loss in over a year. For me the pattern of Monday and Wednesday 500 calories as close as possible and Friday 500-1000 most weeks meant I could handle unexpected or social events without losing the structure. I stopped as soon as my pregnancy was confirmed.
I found information about dieting and weight loss/restricted gain in pregnancy and pregnant women safely doing Ramadan fasting which made me think I could probably do something positive. The NHS dietician I saw is very up on current research and has a mission to help the obesely pregnant manage weight gain. She thinks dietary guidelines for overweight pregnant women could look very different in a few years.
What I'm trying, with her agreement, is restricting to 1000 calories on 'fasting' days and dividing it into 5 or 6 portions throughout the day instead of, as before, fasting completely until 3pm or later.
I am also paying very close attention to what I eat on the other days, logging everything on MFP and going for the best nutritional quality I can manage. Previously the fasting days reduced my interest in unhealthy food altogether but I was eating what I wanted on non fasting days without logging anything.
Sorry for being a bit long winded. Wish me luck
Feeling a bit odd today as AF is due tomorrow and I am grumpy, tired and with sore boobage. Definite sign!!!
Ladies, a quick update from me. I had a reassurance scan this morning, and all they could see was an empty sac. No foetal pole, no heartbeat. Measuring 4 weeks, but I'm 7+4, and there is no doubt about my dates.
I am utterly crushed and heartbroken.
This is my third miscarriage in a row, and I don't know where I'll go from here.
There are no adequate words JBrd, so sad and thinking of you
Oh jbrd I'm devastated for you That must have come as such a shock for you, I'm so so sorry xxxx
JBrd, so very sorry x (lurk on here and have had everything crossed for you)
jBrd - I am so sad for you. So hard to deal with again. Take care and I hope you're getting lots of support irl.
Hi everyone, haven't posted for ages but i still catch up everyday!
Jbrd So sorry to hear your sad news, take care of yourselfxxx
While im on here i will update
No action taking place here, have had bleeding from cd11, now on cd 22 and frankly fed up! This has not happened before so i have no idea whats going on. Maybe it is menopause? Any advice gratefully received.
JBrd I'm so sorry to hear your news, it's so incredibly sad , I know how devastated you must feel.
I really hoped this time it would work out for you.
Thinking of you xxx
Oh Jbrd, I am so sorry. Of course you are devastated. How utterly terrible to have your hopes dashed like that.((hugs))
Welcome Tigerseyemum. I hope the lap and dye helps.Could you ask your consultant to remove some of the endo? I can understand your reluctance to get pregnant if you are in pain.
Isabeller, the adapted 5:2 sounds very sensible for a pregnant woman.
Today is my third fast day, and I am glad because I have been a bit lazy with my eating - I am usually pretty good about eating healthy food, but in a way, the fasting diet has made me feel more relaxed about it and I have been eating sweets and cakes etc, which I don't usually do. So I need to sort that out. Otherwise the fast days are a bit of a waste of time.
I am 9 dpo today and I did a first response test. I know it is very early, but in the past....anyway, it was clearly negative, and although I have my usual pregnancy symptoms, I am starting to believe they are my usual PMS symptoms because they happen so often. I truly believe that we may be catching the egg often, but the quality is bad,so they don't implant. I could be wrong, but I distinctly remember the pregnancy symptoms from my 9 pregnancies (5 THB's) and I often have those same symptoms.
It is sad that I can no longer trust my body to give me the right signals, but that's just something I need to come to terms with. I get disappointed every time, but I prefer this to having a bfp and miscarrying, that is much, much harder.
mumalah, perhaps you should get that bleeding checked out? It is possible to have a period start on day 11, but it shouldn't last longer that normal. The menopause, or at least perimenopause, will cause heavier periods, but that is usually due to longer periods of time between periods, so the lining builds up for longer. Of course with the perimenopause,anything is possible
Jbrd....so sorry for you!!! I really hope that in Rl people are giving you hugs and support!!!
Jbrd so sorry about your news. Will you be offered any support, counselling? X
jbrd I'm so, so sorry. I wish I could say something that would help, but we all know that's impossible. I hope you're getting lots of RL support.
We got married on Saturday - had a lovely day. Civil ceremony at our local town hall, followed by lunch for family on our terrace at home - we got caterers in so we didn't need to do anything. Later on friends joined us for a fantastic buffet from the same caterers (which we're still eating!), and it was exactly the relaxed, friendly affair that we wanted...except for the dash to A&E at 9.30pm with DSS(4) screaming in agony after a fall on the trampoline Fortunately one of the wedding guests is a doctor at the hospital and she pulled some strings to get us seen quickly - so we were back at the party by 11.30pm, with DSS's leg in plaster.
My mum & stepdad, sister & BIL & their DD(2) were here for a few days, all staying with us, but they left this morning - and shortly afterwards DH took DSCs to their mum's for the week, so feeling a bit empty now... We're not planning a honeymoon as such but we're thinking we might go somewhere for a night or 2 this week while I'm still on leave, to stop this feeling of 'that's it, it's all over'.
Oh jbrd I'm so very sorry. You must be devstated. Big hug for you xx
Congrats morien it sounds like a wondeful day...similar to my wedding in June. Have to say it seems like forever ago now.
On a positive note....less than 2 weeks until he is home. Yeeehaaaa.
Another 6lbs off this morning, making a grand total of 2st 8lbs. Feeling gooood!
jbrd I have no words either .. Just sending you hugs..I'm really sorry..
morien your wedding sounded lovely..congratulations
Congratulations Morien ! What was your dress like?
Sounds like you had a lovely day, apart from the trip to A&E. Glad it was all sorted out so quickly,what exactly did your DSS break?
When we were in children's A&E earlier in the year they had a large display on the wall in the waitingroom documenting all the risks of trampolining and listing the number of injuries they had seen over the previous 12 mths as a result. The girls have a trampoline at Grandma's so it's made me much more wary letting them on it!
Hope you have a lovely few days away together this week, it's not all over, it's the start of a wonderful future married life together!
Gum sorry about your BFN, but 9dpo is early...
It is cruel though how our bodies can deceive us with similar symptoms leading up to AF as in early pregnancy, it's just a waiting game.
Welcome Tigerseye !
Mumalah as gum says it's probably worth seeing your doctor about the bleeding?
JBrd thinking of you today xxx
CaliBee that's impressive weight loss, hope your DH recognises you when he gets back! You must be looking forward so much to seeing him again, hope the reunion makes up for the long period of absence ! When do you make the move to NI?
Good Morning Ladies.
Congratulations Morien! Your wedding sounded wonderful. Sorry about the broken leg, what a drama! We have had a trampoline for over twenty years and five kids, and it seems like all our friends have had kids with a breakage due to the tramp, but not in this family, not a single injury (touch wood).
Wow, Calibee, your weightloss is amazing. Well done you. I checked out the Cambridge diet, but I just couldn't do the shake(drink) thing. I think I would probably cheat on a diet like that because my brain would insist I had only had a drink and would want to chew something!
I did another fast day yesterday and found it quite hard as I felt a bit sick when I got overly hungry, so I actually had more than 500 cals, but it was still low. My immediate thought was it might be because I am pregnant (I remember that feeling from the first trimester). I was also so tired in the afternoon, and eventually went to sleep at about 7:30, that made me think, maybe I am pregnant? But this morning my temperature has dropped a bit, so I haven't bothered with a test. I have a feeling this month is a bust too.
I continue to have a little hope, but realistically I know if I happen to get pregnant it will be a miracle. Still, why shouldn't I have a miracle?
And then of course, that is just the first of many hurdles for a 40+ mum.
Despite all that, I still want a THB. If I had a supportive partner I would definitely go for egg donation and ivf, but in my case it has to be all natural.
Have a good day everyone.
Sending a whole lot of love your way Jbrd.
JBrd, I'm very very sorry, I hope you are getting lots of RL support. I know it's early days, but is there any chance of any investigation now you've had 3 consecutive m/cs? Sending you hugs.
Morien congratulations on your wedding, it sounds like it was exactly what you wanted (apart from the hospital visit, obviously).
Wow, Calibee, well done on the weight loss! I hope the next couple of weeks fly by for you and you have a lovely reunion with your DH.
Hopeful, I hope your DS is feeling a bit better.
Irish, nice to see you.
Hi to everyone. I'm doing ok, much better now it's less hot!
Yay, calibee! I always think that whenever it gets to under 2 weeks, whatever it is you're waiting for is practically here.
Irish I had no idea about the dangers of trampolining, but since Saturday several people have made similar comments to yours. Shame, as it's the best thing we've ever bought for them - all 3 of them love it and play on it together for hours. They're almost 9, almost 5 and just 3, so it's hard to find things that all of them will do. Anyway, even DSS is not deterred - the day after his accident he said, 'Morien, can I go on the trampoline? I promise I'll only jump on one leg' Fortunately there's no way he can climb up on to it with his plaster, or else I'm sure he'd have been there.
He didn't actually break anything, luckily. I wonder if it's what we call a greenstick fracture in English - an adult would have broken the bone, but not a child, apparently, because it's a place just below the knee where a child's bone isn't yet formed properly. He goes back to the hospital in a week and they hope to be able to remove the cast then. It could have been much worse!
I didn't wear a wedding dress; I wore a knee-length, sleeveless Ted Baker shift dress, navy blue with a dark gold brocade pattern underlaid. You can hardly see the gold close up but it's really visible on photographs and looks much nicer than I've made it sound!
Sorry, this is a very me post, but I'm just answering your questions!
Morien your dress sounds lovely and I'm sure is something you can wear again.
Glad the fracture wasn't too serious, children seem to heal very quickly at that age. He musn't have been in too much pain if he wanted to go back on the trampoline again so soon, I can just imagine him trying to jump on one leg!
My DDs still go on their trampoline,I just warn them to be careful, but you can't keep them in bubblewrap,they still need to have some freedom and fun!
Hi sparkly ,you've not got much longer to go now ,have you?!
Thank you all for your kind words, I really appreciate it.
After having a bit of a meltdown in the EPU on Sunday, I'm now feeling numb and dazed, like walking through cotton wool. Feeling lost and disorientated.
You invest so must emotionally into a pregnancy, regardless of how early on it is... All the plans I've been making (you know, the 'I'll be that far along when this happens/I'll stop working in XXX/what holidays can or can't I do before the EDD' etc) have now gone down the drain again, and I cannot muster any strength or motivation to re-adjust them at the moment.
My boss has been great - I told her the news yesterday, and I more or less now have carte blanche at work. Which is good to know, in case I have to drop out at short notice. But right now, being at work is the only thing that seems real, I can just work my way down the to-do list and tick things off.
No idea how long this will all last. I'm not bleeding, in fact, I have no physical issues at all at the moment. Just hope that it won't be such a long and drawn out affair like with my first mc...
JBrd, I hope things resolve quickly now, and it must be a relief that your boss is so understanding.
Irish, I'm 37 weeks today so officially full term I think. But I'm expecting to go overdue again - or as overdue as they'll let me, so if LO decides to arrive early, I'm going to get quite a shock even though I know it's a possibility.
JBrd I know exactly what you mean about that numb feeling when you have a MMC, it's like suspended reality,you really feel in limbo.
Even early in a pregnancy you can't help making plans, I think from the moment you get that BFP you start bonding so it's heart breaking to suffer a loss,at any stage. It's difficult to even grieve and start to come to terms with it while waiting to miscarry, it's like everything's on hold.
I admire you for keeping going at work, it's good you have an understanding boss.
Are you booked to go back for another scan if you don't start naturally?
When I found out at 10 weeks the baby had died the previous week I opted to see if I would miscarry naturally and was booked for a rescan to reassess 2 weeks later. The day of the scan I started to bleed heavily though when I was scanned the sac was still there,it was another 2-3 days before this passed. I suppose it's hard to predict when you might start bleeding. I hope the physical side resolves soon for you and you have the time,space and support to heal and come to terms with the emotional fallout xxx
sparkly hope the next few weeks pass quickly for you and LO doesn't keep you waiting too long. Is your bag packed now just in case?!
Jbrd, I know exactly what you mean about making plans. Even if you have had previous miscarriages it is normal and natural to plan. We do try to protect ourselves don't we, but we cannot help but love our babies as soon as we know that we are pregnant.
I am glad you are able to work. As you say, it is straight forward and gives you something to focus on. I hope things resolve quickly for you as I know how difficult it can be when it takes a long time.
Sparkly, how exciting that it is nearly birth time. By this stage I'll bet you are ready for your baby to come? How has your DH been? Has he gotten better at accepting the baby?
11 DPO today and another BFN. Oh well...no point in kidding myself that there's still time for a bfp. I just know if I don't have a hint of a line by now then there won't be a line. I am sick of my body leading me astray with very sore boobs, feelings of nausea here and there, extreme tiredness and extreme intolerance. Can't I just have a 2ww that has no symptoms at all so that I can be hopeless instead of hopeful ???
My days of ttc are numbered. It's been a long time - 4 years- and I think I will stop all things ttc on my 47th birthday. That's only about three cycles away
It is difficult to let go of such a huge dream, but little by little, I think I am.
Well, another busy day ahead. Work, staff meeting after school,netball training and swimming laps...I'll be asleep on the couch at 7pm again tonight
Lots of sadness around today :-( Ttc can be such an emotional roller coaster.
I'm due on 2 days ago and it drives me crazy because my AF symptoms are identical to pregnancy symptoms!!! Massively sore boobs (they wake me up when I roll over!), extremely tired, sore belly, generally grumpy. I have to try not to think about it otherwise I'll start picking out baby names and browsing Brora kids clothes!
Back to work, must stop daydreaming...
Irish, no I haven't packed my bag! I know I should have, but I haven't even got everything I need for me, though I think I have for the baby. Something for later this week I think.
Gum, sorry it's not your month again. Sadly DH has not come round, we're in the process of having a big sort out, and he said something really mean to me yesterday, which is very unusual. I promptly started crying, much to DDs consternation, she was very sweet though. I'm scared if I think about it, so trying not to as I'd be a wreck, but I'm very much hoping he'll soften when LO is here.
Tigerseye, good luck!
JBrd, how are you doing? I hope you're being looked after in whatever ways you need.
Sparkly, I am sorry DH still hasn't come round. I do hope when the LO is here he'll feel differently.
I am definitely not pregnant, AF turned up today - actually at 12 DPO, which means my luteal phase has shortened. It may be because since my holiday I have completely stopped taking supplements. No multi vitamins, coq10,folic acid,aspirin or vit B. Maybe it has made a difference. I don't know. I think I may start taking the sups again. I keep reading about how great COq10 is for egg quality, so I will start taking it again.It's incredibly expensive, but I guess it is worth if it helps, and it will only be for a few more months.
I had acupuncture today and according to my pulses my energies are good (I feel flippin tired though, especially as I fasted again today). She asked if I still want a baby. I told her yes, and she said she felt I was becoming more accepting that it may not happen than I was a couple of years ago. I suppose she's right. However, I still do want one last baby. She thinks I have enough on my plate, but she cannot say that it will or won't happen. However, she says, from what she can see, I am in very good health, better than ever (according to her way of thinking in Chinese medicine), so that's a good thing I suppose.
Sorry, I'm rambling. Feeling very,very hungry and just waiting for my fish to finish baking.
When will you test Tigerseye??
Evening! Just a quickie from me. Back from hospital after being hit in bump with tennis ball at a children's play camp in town. All seems fine after monitoring, but have to go in again tomorrow to get anti-D injection just to be safe. Was monitored on labour ward which was hell on earth - emergencies everywhere and ward eventually closed for admissions as no room left at the inn. Just glad I wasn't in labour! Catch up properly tomorrow xxx
That sounds hellish, diege!!!
I am still waiting. I tested when I was 2 days late but it was a BFN. As I've got older I've become less regular and I seem to go anywhere from 26 to 34 days.
Oh Diege that does sound like hell on earth. I am glad you are okay.
Nothing more to report from me.
I hope everyone else is fine.
Dh and I are thinking of doing a teacher exchange to the UK in 2015. Where would you suggest is a nice area to live and teach? We have heard horror stories about high schools in London, so somewhere in the country might be nice.
I am starting to look at a future that doesn't include another baby, but it still makes me a little bit sad to do so
Must dash, have to get the kids out of bed and ready for school.
diege how awful!!!
Are you ok now????
jbrd ((hugs)) xxxx
We just returned from a holiday ( what do you call a romantic getaway before baby arrives??)
It was great!!!
29 weeks today and finally believing that it is going to happen. My dh is happy as always and we are decorating the nursery and buying few things ( had hand me downs for other dcs but all our friends had their kids a while ago?).
The gestational diabetes is coming along nicely however as I plan the baby shower ( different custom in my country) I am making plans for yummies that are nice to eat and not necessarily healthy!!!. Baby shower is a big celebration for us and in my case people was asked to bring nappies or wipes ( cheap and easy to find). ..
Sorry to rant away
hopeful my dh as a teacher in London, Leeds, Birmingham and now Manchester.... I asked him over brekkie and he say that Yorkshire was the best area regarding behaviour, but he works with hard of hearing now so it is difficult to judge.
All my love to you in your path of acceptance... Xxx
Ooh Gum we have very good schools in Warrington . Seriously though, wherever you choose, if you do come, I will hint you out and stalk you until you agree to come over for a large piece of lemon drizzle cake. Would it def be England or would you consider Wales/Scotland too?
notsoold 29 weeks here too - I also feel quite relieved when I pass 28 weeks. Howe are you feeling with the GD? Would you have known you had it if it hadn't been diagnosed?
Tiger do you have any idea when you might have ovulated? Very stressful testing and retesting in your position xx
Have to head back to day unit for anti-D today. Dh being quite 'off' about covering childcare for an hr or 2 as I don't fancy trekking there with 5 kids. He has the option of going into work early so won't get behind (flexi time) but at the moment is asleep...Am putting it down to the general stress he has been under at work/mum poorly etc, but his current mood (swings) at present have been quite 'challenging' shall we say...
diege I wouldn't know as the other symptoms ( weeing in the might and drinking a lot and feeling tired) is what happens to me anyway during pg!!! So they swear I had with ds because of him being 9'9 ( although so skinny being tall)....
Good day to all xxxx
did any of you here have pregnancy symptoms identical to AF symptoms???.. I will have AF in one week and I already feel ovarian dullness, which happens to me every month.. Am I already out then?
It's a terrible week as it's just one year from when they started to detect problems with my baby.. I want at least to keep my hopes up for a few days!!
humh I'm afraid I'm biasing your replies..
Diege sorry for you accident and for your DH behaviour.. mine shouted at me yesterday because I was crying remembering last year events.. I sometimes wonder if we're the right people to be together..
gum if you go to the uk to teach, don't forget to come to Italy!!!
Jbrd how are you? Lots of hugs...
mozz I've never felt more like my period was going to come than when pregnant, certainly no reason to think you're out. Know what you mean re: dh - we are very different people I think which doesn't usually matter too much, but when under stress etc does create quite a difficult living environment. My life would be so much easier with Simon Cowell <sighs>
notsoold that's interesting about the GD, also that your ds was one cause for concern with his weight - same here with dc4 who was 9.8 after 3 7 pounders. Reassuringly back to 7.12ib with dc 5 though so hoping this one will be similar.
mozzamummy, yesterday must have been one of those days. I had a good cry in the shower for my little Louie and Alfie who never made it earthside. I have always believed our babies find their way to us, but I feel sad thinking that this little spirit baby is unlikely to come back to us. But I don't even discuss it with my Dh because he just doesn't feel it as keenly as I do. My losses are tiny compared to yours, so you must be heartbroken. ((hugs)) I hope this is your month for a bfp. And if it isn't, don't give up, I am sure you will get pregnant.
I am also on another over 40's forum on an American site and there have been many successes. The latest one is a mum who is 46 and 6 weeks pregnant, and she has a 14 month old son. So that gives me hope. I have my fingers crossed that her pregnancy will be a success, because as well as it being a wonderful outcome for her, it can help me believe that it is possible.
I have considered buying Zita West supplements. Does anyone else have experience with them? Do you think they are worth it? In the past I have always taken a handful of different supplements, so I like the idea of just one or two that will cover everything I might need for ttc. Or is it just tarted up vitamins that I could get somewhere else? I will have to wait until I sell some stuff on EBay to be able to afford it, and I should probably be using the money to help pay off the holiday spending but I feel I should give it my best shot...Am I just being silly???
Thanks for the suggestions for places in the UK to teach. At the moment it is really a dream, but one we have talked about for years, and 2015 might be a good time because it is when our eldest DD has finished high school and DD2 will be year 10 which isn't a crucial year in her education (where year 11 and 12 is), and DS will be year 1. Otherwise we have to wait til DD2 is finished (2018). Anyway, I was reading through the application forms yesterday and it is quite a complicated process and it appears it is difficult to get a "couples" exchange, and we couldn't afford to do it unless we were both working. The truth is we probably can't really afford to do it at all, it will be expensive to fly four of us half way across the world, and of course we'd want to explore Europe, so it could be a big expense. But the more I think about it the more excited I am. Mozza, we would definitely come to Italy as my father owns a house in Monte di Procida (his childhood home), in the south, so we would have a house to stay in.
Diege, we would have to apply for Scotland and Wales too to give us a good chance.
Like I said, at this stage it is a bit of a dream, and honestly, as much as I have always hoped we would do it, a THB would trump that dream in a heartbeat.
It is Saturday here and my DD2 has a friend sleeping over, so I am taking them and DD1 into town for shopping ( the horror, the horror!). I think I may have to find a friend to have a cuppa with. I would like to have cake too, but so far I've lost NO weight on the 5:2 diet, so I am wondering if I have to be strict on non-fast days too. I thought the whole idea of this diet was that you didn't have to worry on the non fast days, but so far I haven't lost an ounce. Grr! I hope all this starving isn't for nothing
If you are reading this when you get up, have a happy Saturday...
Well, I'm definitely not upduffed. Oh well, next month.
I'll enjoy my child-free weekend by going on walkies through the woods and maybe cocktails later. So it has it's perks.
Sorry Tigerseye. The walking through the woods, and cocktails sound fabulous, but I'll send a little ((hug))your way because it would be nice to get a bfp.
Hi everyone, been reading and hoping for good things for you.
Gum - I am sorry this wasn't your month. I think even though it feels long, you have every reason to keep going if you want to. I've known two women have babies naturally older than you - one at 47 and one at 50 (Her first)! I can understand the sadness of your losses and the feeling that maybe it is time to stop too. I am taking dhea and q10. Q10 seems to be a bit of a wonder supplement for ageing but it is really expensive yes. I got mine from amazon cos these kind of things are extortionate in France. How lovely to have the travel idea there. You never know, you might just find it happens. I wanted a change years ago and here I am!
Mozzarella - I had AF symptoms when I got pregnant so I hope that is a good sign for you. It can't be easy to move on from a tfmr but keep the faith, there's still time.
Tigerseye - enjoy your weekend and the freedom you feel.
Diege - that tennis ball incident sounds horrible. Glad you're ok.
Morien - congratulations on your wedding and delighted pregnancy going well. I can't remember if you had your harmony result yet. Hope all's well.
Cali - huge congrats on the weight loss, that's fab. Hope dh is impressed - cant be long till he's back?
Sparkly - wow, not long now! It goes really fast when it's not me doing it so it seems to have flown. Best of everything for the next bit. Hope dh comes good and supports you.
Notsoold - delighted it is going well.
JBrd - hope you're doing ok?
Big hello to Irish and everyone else.
Afm I am unfortunately in a pickle. I had an inconclusive smear result and have to wait for my doc to get back from hols on 3 September when I have an apt booked. I was ok with it, but have started to feel a rising sense of panic over the last week. It is hard work being mum to a two year old, I adore it but it can be exhausting. She is great but quite a character. She just hit me on the head with a book so I have banished her to the playpen to calm down! I am 4 days po - don't feel pregnant but do feel very emotional which is not like me. I am frightened things might be really bad and terrified of what it could mean if they are. Better shake myself and take us into town.
Hello everyone, hope you're all having a lovely weekend. I just had a message from the doctor at the Fetal Medical Centre Belgium to tell me that he's had my Harmony results last night and they're absolutely fine. I imagine I'll find out more on Monday, but I'm so pleased to hear that
[isadorable] that's happened to me too in the past - an inconclusive smear, I mean. In fact I went back for a second one and it was inconclusive again, so then I really did get worried I know it's hard not to think the worst (particularly when you've got such a long wait till you can have it done again, you poor thing - couldn't you go somewhere else?) but the doctor told me that in most cases inconclusives just mean that they can't test the sample, not that there's anything wrong. Mine was fine, in the end.
Mozzarella I'm quite confident that my DH & I should be together (anything else would be a bit sad, wouldn't it, a week into our marriage?) but he could very easily behave in the way your DP did. With my grandma's recent final illness and death recently he was just rubbish. It's almost like there's a sensor in him that detects more-than-average neediness in me and freaks out - whereas normally he's very supportive. Anyway, how are you feeling now? A hard few weeks for you to get through.
And gum, have you brightened up? That sadness can hit right out of the blue, can't it?
tigerseye sorry it's not your month, but enjoy your cocktails - please have one for me
Have a lovely weekend, everybody else!
Great ne.ws morien! How nice to get a head's up at the weekend too
isadorable please don't worry about your smear result, it really will be that there were either not enough cells on the slide or it was 'impaired' in some way (for eg. a touch of thrush, other bacteria/blood). My BIL works in the labs here and has been called upon many times for interpretations of smears! If there was anything slightly abnormal they would upgrade it to 'mild abnormalities' which in and of themselves often clear up anyway after 3 mths. Really, DO NOT WORRY!!!
Gum I have used the Zita West supplements in the past after I'd had a mmc. I read her book about fertility and she mentioned her own supplements which seemed a lot simpler than buying them separately. No problems with them (in fact conceived a few mths after taking them). Only problem is price and remembering to take them 3 times a day...I think you're quite used to supplements though? so may well have it in your mind to take to work etc.
Sorry it's not your month tiger . Are you going/do you chart, do opks etc? I found temping really useful in letting me know when to expect af/a bfp, but can also see the benefit of just waiting it out.
Hope everyone's ok and having a good Saturday. Dh (who seems to have perked up ) has taken older dds swimming so am trying to attack the washing/ironing pile with limited success...
Thanks diege and morien - great news about harmony too. My result is Ascus - it seems I have traces of hpv 16 and 18 which are the ones to worry about. Instead of worrying, I am drinking a mojito in the big square with dd who is drawing all over my physio receipt with her new babapapa felt tips. Oh and eyeing up my mojito cos it looks more interesting than her iced tea which she usually loves.
Men don't cope and deal with things the same. Mine is very practiical and only secretly very emotional. Though we do support and compliment each other most of the time, it can be tough. But I think it is worth it and know I am happy to have him.
Have lovely weekends all!
isadorable I too have tested positive for the same strains of hpv that you do (apparently 90% of the population are hpv positive) and every single smear this year at the hosp' clinic has apparently been hpv pos (they're part of a research study). It just means they might invite you for more frequent smears (I have yearly ones) but the virus can burn out if you are healthy and fit, and may well be untraceable for every other smear you ever have xx
Thanks diege that is really helpful and reassuring. I am encouraged that I have no symptoms and he took me it looked ok when he did it. My dp is delighted to hear a rational explanation. Men.
Hello lovely ladies.
Morien, congratultions on the great Harmony result. Fantastic news.
Isadorable, I also have those kind of results and all is well. I just get checked 12 monthly. The last one was fine I think and now I can wait two years.
As for men, I second what you are saying. I love my DH dearly, but he has the emotional aptitude of a gnat. I have learned, after 13 years of marriage, that it is just his "normal" and not to take it too personally. However going through the miscarriages was the hardest thing I have ever done because I felt I had to cope alone. He was there for me but just couldn't grasp the emotional magnitude of it.
Diege, I went and ordered the Zita West supplements yesterday but for some reason my credit card wouldn't work . Then I posted on Mumsnet, hoping someone might have a discount code I could use, but no replies to my post as yet. I'll wait a couple of days, and see if I can get a code before I purchase(they are quite expensive, but I like the idea of not having to take such a large handful of vitamins and sups).
Isadorable, I think you are right, there's no reason to stop ttc, and I don't think I'll ever use contraception, but I might stop charting, temping, timing intercourse, taking supplements. So, although I wouldn't be TTA, I wouldn't be consciously TTC. I do believe it is still possible, as I am still having regular periods, but I do accept that having a regular cycle doesn't mean that the eggs are viable. However I am sure there is one good one left in there somewhere.
One of the things Zita West says is that couples don't have enough sex. In my case she is probably right. Busy lives, kids and age have all put a big dent in my libido. It takes effort to make it happen My acupuncturist said that being open to a baby at my age is a type of freedom, not having to think about contraception as many women our age do because the idea of a child to them is the worst thing ever. So, I suppose that is a type of freedom.
My parents are visiting today, so I am cooking a big roast lamb lunch, so that's my Sunday taken care of. I will have to clean the house first (sadly, they are quite critical). I feel tired just thinking about it....
Good morning from me, too, ladies. It's lovely to come to this thread and read how you are all getting on.
I also had an abnormal smear test a few years ago, but all that amounted to was having tests more frequently for a few years, and nothing else was found. It's quite surprising how often that seems to happen...
Great news about your harmony test, Morien, what a relief! How are you feeling?
I'm hanging in, nothing else I can do at the moment. My next scan is on Tuesday, and I guess they will discuss options with me then. I started spotting yesterday, but it's very light. I have a sinking feeling that this is going to be a long and drawn out affair, sigh.
I'm a bit in denial, trying to get on with things as usual and surprising myself how well that is going at the moment. I've been to work all week, just getting on with it really...
However, I got the letter inviting me for the 12week scan yesterday, that was really tough
Thanks JBrd - I am beginning to see these things must be quite common - thanks to all of you. It isn't the sort of thing people talk about much I suppose. But I'm grateful for knowledge. I'm off next week so going to see my gp about a few things and I'll mention it and see what he says.
Sorry things have yet to resolve themselves. Good thing you're in a job you like now and can take refuge in work I suppose. Are you to look at recurrent miscarriage testing? How rough to get the scan letter... Big squeeze from me.
Gum - I know we're not having enough sex! Was going to try sme plan. I think between dp's shift work, dd and all the rubbish this year has thrown at us so far, we've not been trying hard enough. From what I read dhea should be effective after 90 days. That's the longest i plan to take it for. I have been taking 25mg for a couple of weeks without any side-effects so I think I'm going up it to 50 next week and see how that goes.
Happy Sunday everyone!
Jbrd poor you receiving a letter like that! I received one regarding scan after my mc last year and it broke my heart even more! Take care my lovely!! Xx
Gum...none of my friends in our age bracket is every enough sex because of all the many things in our lives! So I totally get it! How was the roast lamb?? ( sex x food??? I choose food )
I hope you are all having a pleasant weekend. We are very quiet here because ds went away to a camp...he is a chatterbox!!
I went to doctors and had blood test as advised re bleeding, fingers crossed its stopped as from today, been almost a month now, so just awaiting results.
I'm also overdue for a smear test, i remember having one a few months before i conceived my youngest, sadly not here anymore, and i had to have a colposcopy. I was advised not to get pregnant, but I did, infact it regulated my periods afterwards. So i need to book in asap while not bleeding. Its all very worrying isadorable
Well tonight might be dh lucky night, no bleeding all day lol!
Jbrd, receiving that letter is like a kick in the gut isn't it? After my second miscarriage I had called and cancelled my 12 week tests, but I still got a reminder phone call at 11 weeks. I told them that it was pretty awful that they had called me when I had miscarried. I hope they felt bad because something like that shouldn't happen. It is an awful reminder of the loss. I hope it all resolves quickly for you. Will you have recurrent miscarriage testing?
mumalah, I am glad to hear the bleeding has stopped. I hope you get to the bottom of what's going on. Not only would it be worrying, but also inconvenient.
My Sunday worked out okay, but I was exhausted by the end of it. Dh cooked the lamb and vegies in the Weber BBQ, so I didn't have to do much - just make a big salad. But of course I ended up cleaning the bathroom, kitchen,living room and laundry. Seems mad now as my parents were only here for a few hours. But I know they have "reported" back to my sister about my house in the past, and I have to admit to feeling a bit hurt. I wish I didn't care what they think. For goodness sake I am 46 years old!
I have had no response at all about the Zita West discount code, so it looks like I might be paying full price . I would have thought someone would have responded...oh well.
DS has woken with a sticky eye this morning. I hope it isn't conjunctivitis. He has swimming lessons this morning and will be heart broken if he can't go. I shall keep an eye on it
Have a lovely day.
Morning! That sounds very annoying about your parents gum..I think I would be tempted to leave the place in a real mess (so basically as it is...) and see what gets back to sister...Re: Zita West, I have never found a discount code in all the time I was taking them, on MN or elsewhere. Hope ds's eye sorts itself - conjunctivitis is the pits
mumalah that does sound a pain about the bleeding. Do you know when you might get the results back?
All ok here - have the prospect of taking 4dcs into town to get school uniform today; that should be fun May need to indulge in something sweet (am thinking M&S's cream meringues) when I get home!
Love to all - btw I think we should resume the bistro on Friday - get thinking what you'd like so I can order supplies
btw Gum wasn't inferring your house was a 'real mess', was thinking of mine
Oh Diege, right now a cream meringue sounds amazing (fasting again today. Wish I was up the duff so I had a great excuse to stop it!). I know you weren't being critical of my house. But it is a mess, which is perfectly normal for a busy working family. My mother never worked outside the home, so she hasn't got a clue.
I wish I didn't care. I met up with my parents and my sister for a cuppa this morning after DS's swimming lesson. Was a waste of time I think as they are just so strange and difficult. They are very critical of my sister and the way she disciplines her children, and yet they are not at all interested in helping out. They very seldom visit us, have very little time for our kids, but then proceed to tell my sister that my children are "precocious" (because they can uphold a conversation with an adult), and that DS is "very spoilt and gets his own way all the time", after they have spent about two hours with him and us. It makes my blood boil that they can make these assumptions when they don't even know the kids, nor us, really. Nor do they seem to want to. Honestly I don't know of any other woman on the planet who is as negative or critical as my mother...
Luckily the visits are few and far between, so I can relax for another 4-6 months. They are going overseas in two weeks, which makes both my sister and me relieved as we know they won't surprise us with a visit whilst they are away.
Sorry for the rant - they just make me feel
About the Zita West sups, I have tried to buy them but for some reason my mastercard won't work, which means I will have to use my visa card, which I share with DH. Will the statement say "fertility supplements"? I wouldn't want DH see that I've spent that much on them, he'll not be pleased. So still not sure if I will go ahead. There were no replies to my post about a discount code, perhaps there is no such thing nowadays?
Oh, I think I will probably buy them. I am still willing to give it a good shot. I bought some opk's today. DH is going away at the end of the week, so I want to have an idea of what's going on, as it could be a bit tight for fitting in SWI.
Off to see if I can find out what will show up on the credit card statement
Hi hopeful, if you google zita west supplements there is quite a few websites selling her products. some with 20% discount. one is healthy peach.com and another is zitawest.nutrisun.co.uk/.Free.P&P/‎. Hope that helps.
Thanks mumalah. I bought from Healthy Peach. I would have bought them from Zita West as I wanted the Vitafem Boost too, but I couldn't get either credit card to work, so I gave up! I am guessing they are really just a multi vitamin, and will probably keep taking CO q 10, fish oil, royal jelly and the aspirin in the tww.
gum if it is any consolation the meringues (yes, plural) were a disappointment Bought from cheapo supermarket rather than M&S, and while the actual meringue was very similar they have very little cream in them . Still, I have the Cadbury's caramel biscuits to eye up and then eat this evening . How's the fast going? <runs>
Town was a nightmare - spent £200 on uniform which is far more than I'd accounted for...still, nearly there now, just things like PE bags that can be got after we get back from our week away (leaving this Friday). Also lost dds 2 and 3 in supermarket for about 10 mins (they had gone out) which was a horrible heart stopping moment!
Thought I ought to get back on here and see if you can cheer me on with TTC. DS, our little Firefly, is now 13.5 months and doing v well. I have been holding off TTC as still BF and want to take same supps as before and didn't know how good it was for DS to have Royal Jelly with his milk. Also, had a busy first half of the year and it wouldn't have been great to be preggers then.
Diege what's this? Are you up-duffed again? Is this #6??!!
Lovely to see you Gum. Hope you're well.
I have only scanned the thread so will have to be rude and not name check all the lovely newbies on here.
Not sure what else to say at the mo, except, help. Am 44 on Thursday!
Hope to keep up with you all better. Is all down to DS though, The Ruler of The Household!!
UnMumsnetty hugs to all. FF xx
Hello Fireflies!How nice to see you. Wow, baby Fireflies is 13 months already!
I really should have had a baby by now, shouldn't I, but it just hasn't happened
It will be lovely to have you back on or thread.
deige, sorry the meringues were disappointing. I made it through the day on 500 calories and feel very virtuous, I hope I am losing some weight, surely it isn't all for nought. I did have some delicious (a tiny serve) of passionfruit greek yoghurt after dinner, so didn't feel too deprived.
Fireflies, remind which supplements you are taking (or going to take) for ttc?
Just catching up with everyone as had kind of lost this thread.
I had period type symptoms with each one of my pregnancies so no need to lose hope yet.
I had an abnormal smear result around 15 years back but have never had any problems since.
No bfp for me again as just finished another period. Was getting v frustrated with it all, even though I have only been trying just over 3 months. Onwards and upwards I guess!
On a positive note, dp proposed to me yesterday, on our 6 year anniversary of being together!!
Congratulations 2minds,how lovely ! When will the wedding be?
Hi Fireflies ,you had just had your baby around the time I joined the thread last year! Good to hear he's doing well. Have your periods returned to normal while you're bf? Mine never resumed until a couple of months after I finished bf.
You've had a stressful few days Diege ,after the tennis ball incident, injection,and then the disappearing DDs! It's an awful feeling when you can't see your child in a public place. DS did it to us on holidays in France when he was about 4, he thought it would be fun to hide in a shop in a clothes display, I think it was the longest 10 minutes of my life until he decided to pop back out.He thought it was very funny,took us a while to see the funny side!
gum your parents sound very difficult,bet you breathe a sigh of relief when they go home! Well done with sticking to your fasting, I think I'd struggle to stick to 500 cals a day.
We've just had a long weekend away,it was DD1's 14 birthday last week and she didn't think it would be the same without her big brother around so we booked a hotel near to where he's living while he does his internship and spent a few days with him. It's not too far from London so we got the train in a couple of days and did the touristy thing. It was very busy, but what would you expect in August I suppose! It was really nice just to have the whole family together again.
Great your results were good Morien ,you can relax a bit more now.
Hope you're ok JBrd, well as ok as you can be xxx
Hi to everyone else
Hello my lovely ladies....it feels like forever since I have been ttc along with the rest of you, however my man is back on Friday evening woohoo.
I randomly peed on one of the clearblue advanced sticks this morning and got a solid smiley so hopefully I'm back in the game.
Congrarulations to 2minds ..how lovely.
hopeful I agree, your parents sound difficult, and so ublike you by the sounds of it.
Welcome back to fireflies
Its getting close to when my little one would have been due (25/8).... Such an odd feeling, its a good job we are moving 2 days later, I should be really busy and not have to much time to ponder on it.
COngratulations 2minds, that is wonderful news.
Irish, that sounds like a lovely family holiday. It is so nice that your DD wanted to be with her DB for her birthday.
Calibee, great news that your DH will be back so soon.
Yes, irish and Calibee, my parents are not nice people. The more I think about it the more upset I feel about the way they treat me and my family. For years I have put up with it. They never, ever phone me (unless there's an emergency), I have to do all the keeping in touch. And if I don't for a while they make comments about how wrong it is that they don't know what is going on in my life or with my kids. It is so frustrating. They don't visit us for months, then they'll phone us the night before they are coming. They make no allowances for the fact that I work outside the home, they don't bring meals, help with anything domestic and show favouritism towards my brothers' children. They are quite wealthy but birthday gifts for the children are absolutely dismal. DS is turning 5 soon and my mother gave him his gift: A tee shirt and shorts (which were very ugly and two sizes too big) and a pack of playing cards Bless him, my sweet boy said thankyou then whispered in my ear,"I was hoping for a toy". It is so disappointing because I know they could do better if they took an interest in the kids, and would part with a tiny bit more of their precious money.
Oh, sorry, I didn't mean to unburden on you. I just wish things could be different, that they could be decent grandparents to my children (and reasonable parents to me).
Well, my crazy week got a bit crazier yesterday when I took DS to the doctor and found out he definitely has conjunctivitis, so he can't go to school today. So I had to take the morning off work yesterday, take him to the Drs, then bring him home again for DS2 to babysit, then head back to work (and I live 20 kms from the drs and work). Today I will stay home with him, but will have to travel twice into town for pick ups for my daughters. I have taken tomorrow off too, but I am hoping DS's eyes will have cleared up from the drops, so I can take him to daycare and have a day to myself. DH is going away today for two nights, and I really need some time for me. I am feeling overwhelmed by work, sick kids and all the taxiing around.
It is nothing knew though is, millions of working parents the world over have to do this juggling act
As for ttc, I think it's CD7, so when DH gets back from his work trip, it will be getting close to ovulation, and hopefully we will be in the mood for some SWI I'll probably be too knackered
Thank you all. We have not set a date yet but will probably be looking at next summer sometime. It has given me something else to think about other than obsessing over whether I am still fertile or not!
I feel for you CaliBee. I remember dreading my due date after my miscarriage. It is tough but good you have lots to keep you busy and great that you will have your man back with you.
Hopefulgum - hope your DS is better soon. Know what you mean about being too knackered a lot of the time to do the deed, as that is often me too!
Hello! Many congrats 2minds, that's lovely news .
fireflies yes cheering you on with the pompoms here, and great to hear you are back on the ttc wagon . Yep, number 6 here, 30 weeks, and hoping against hope for that burst of energy you're supposed to get??!! Having a boy which evens things out, so 3 of each! Was a bit of a surprise, but do realise how lucky I am and am very much looking forward to seeing my little boy now
calibee great news about dp, but many sympathies with the looming due date xx
irish lovely to hear from you - break away sounds fab x
gum phew, sound like you do indeed need some time to yourself - nothing quite like lingering child illnesses to drain you. Ttc time imminent too - hopefully you can gather the strength and then collapse!
Well off for a week away to Whitby tomorrow. Looking forward to being there but the packing has me done in and still not finished it...Fantasy is that they would all go and leave me here so I can just do absolutely nothing, other than wee and answer the door to take-away deliveries .
So love to all and will check in in a week's time x
Hope you have a lovely holiday Diege and get a chance to relax. You should be able to get some good fish and chips in Whitby! Hope the weather is good for you.
Has your DS's conjunctivitis improved gum ? It can be a nightmare trying to get eyedrops in a small child, I don't envy you that! He sounds like a real little sweetie, how tactful was he talking to your parents! I know what you mean about running "Mum's taxi" ,hope you get some time to yourself to recharge your batteries for dtd when DH is home.
CaliBee, I've realized as it's now Friday your DH will be home already so I don't expect you'll be reading this for a while, you'll have some catching up to get down to with better things to do than come on Mumsnet!!! Hope the timing is right for you.
I thought it must be coming up to your due date, I remember it was going to be just after the royal baby arrived .It is such a difficult time but it's good your DH will be with you on the day xxx
2minds it will be lovely have a wedding to plan, a good distraction from those 2ww s every month!
Diege, have a lovely break in Whitby. I do hope it will be relaxing for you. I think you really deserve to put your feet up and read a good book, snooze, have all meals cooked for you etc Oh, and any chance of a day spa, massage, manicure etc???
I feel like I could do with a holiday too, but I just had one didn't I? How soon my relaxed air has vanished Never mind, not every week is like the one I have just had. It was unfortunate that DH had to be away when DD was involved in a big school music show (so rehearsals every day after school, plus night time performances) and when DS had conjunctivitis. That was healing well until yesterday, when I forgot to give the drops to the daycarer, and then forgot to do them when I got home with him. Then he fell asleep on the way back from dropping DD at the entertainment centre. So this morning he woke up with a yucky sticky eye! So I will have to be more vigilant now and do them for an extra day.
DH's father called yesterday in a flap because he couldn't contact my DH (who was in a conference) because he needs him to drive him (FIL) to the hospital on Monday for an operation, and drive him back home the following day. The operation is in the city where DH is now, so he'll have to drive 400 km home today, then possibly turn around tomorrow (I hope it won't be until Monday morning) and drive those same 400kms again. Poor thing.
It can't be helped. His father has gotten quite unwell and frail over the last couple of years, and his mother had a stroke at Christmas time and is still recovering, so DH is happy to help. But I am a little disappointed as we are coming up to ovulation Last month I Oed at day 12, if I do O at day 12 I'll at least get a shot at it tonight at day 10, but if I ovulate day 13 or 14 it won't be so great ( he will be away the nights of (possibly) day 11 and 12. I have had twinges, so I don't think I'll have a later ovulation like I have done some months.Hopefully he won't leave til Monday morning, and we'll have a go at it Sunday night or Monday morning
Oh well, I cannot control the situation, I just have to go with it and hope for the best possible chance. This afternoon I will do an opk and see how it is looking. What's the bet the opk will be positive on the night he's away?
Despite lots of car trips yesterday, I did take the day off work and did get a little time to myself. After dropping the kids at school I went to the pool and did 50 laps I am so pleased with myself. I am getting very addicted to it, can't wait to get into the pool, and feel it is a sort of meditation, with the bonus of being good exercise.
If you have kept reading this post, then you deserve and a
I am so glad I have mumsnet friends to unload on, it really does help with my stress levels
Gum I am keeping everything crossed for you that you will have that baby. Well done on doing the fast day(s). I have made some forays into dieting but am not v committed at the mo!! The supplements I took are the ones on Fertility Friend: www.fertilityfriends.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=226042.750 . See the first posting on 31/01/10. There was one supplement she lists which I didnt take, but cant remember off-hand which it was. I think Lysine. I need to review the list myself and work out what I can and cannot take while still BF The Rascal. Sorry to hear about your shitty family and troubles with FIL. Hope you get a chance to DTD. As for your family its such a shame how crap they are, but best to concentrate on your own lovely brood. Though I find it difficult to take such advice. My family are a totally PITA and I wish I could take my own advice and stop worrying about them and get on with my own life without seeking their approval.
Hi 2minds. Nice to meet you. Sorry about to hear AF has put in an appearance, but huge congrats on proposal.
Hello again Irish. AF returned in Feb this year, so 8 months after DS was born. (And OMG, how I enjoyed the best part of two years period free!!) Was BF then, but not exclusively so.
Calibee I hope you were able to make the most of your Clearblue smiley. Thinking of you at this difficult time too.
Diege Hope you are having a good time in Whitby. Great news on #6, and lovely to have a boy on the way.
I need to knuckle down and read that supps list. I dont know why I find it so difficult to focus on it. (well, I do really, I am shagged out and plain shagged off at the moment. Scuse the language ). BTW, did you read the article in Red magazine recently? The premise was a book which has been published recently which suggests that declining fertility with increasing female age is a myth. Ill have to dig it out and re-read it, but was interested to note that even The Lister hospital is recommending taking CoQ10 these days. The other main point I got from the article was that its less about needing or being able to improve egg quality, but more that the environment that the eggs develop in needs be conducive to maturing eggs. So, antioxidants etc are helpful. Anyway, basically, it confirmed a lot of the stuff which is on the Fertility Friends website. Theres a bit on the article here, but not much of interest: www.redonline.co.uk/red-women/blogs/jean-twenge-dismisses-fertility-timebomb
Off to check lottery numbers. When I cut my birthday cake on Thurs I wished for something along those lines....
Thanks for that supplement link Fireflies. I actually have a print out of it which I must have printed out when you told us about it before
I think I have most of those sups in my pantry. I have been very slack taking them, but after reading your post I have been reminded how important it is to have all those vitamins, antioxidants etc in your system to give the egg the best chance.
I, too, believe that the environment for the developing egg is very important. So I am going to make a better effort to take my supplements. I have just been on the fertility friend website and a lady of 47 has got a bfp! However it is early days and she's had many losses, I hope this one can be her THB. Sadly,I do think it is true that there's a higher chance of miscarriage as we get older, however it doesn't mean every pregnancy will be miscarried. So I can hold onto that hope. I have decided that my latest goal is to either be pregnant by Christmas (obviously I have absolutely no control over that) or 10 kilos lighter. So either way I will be happy.
My DH got home last night and we managed to DTD. I plan to get another chance at it tonight as he is going away tomorrow. Luckily it is only for one night, so I suppose it won't make a huge difference to TTC.LAst night's opk was quite light, so it doesn't seem that ovulation is imminent, but then again I may get a positive today. We shall see.
I am going to read the article you linked now.
I had a quick look around the internet, and here is an article written by Jean Twenge. It is quite encouraging.
Fingers crossed that last night was the night, Gum. Thanks for the link. Twenge is the one behind the Red article. BTW, 'Angelbump', who put together the Fertility Friend stuff had problems with MC, so her 'protocol' is designed for that also. I remember B6 as being important, and that you can take a huge amount of it!! I'd found her post after the first IVF round failure. Our embryos were of excellent quality but failed to implant so I was spurred on by that too.
Well, I am still "hopeful" here. DH has just driven off to take FIL to hospital, but I got lucky (or he did) again last night, so if I ovulate today or tomorrow, I guess timing is good, and I'll jump him again when he gets back from the city tomorrow night. I did an opk last night and it looked even less positive than the night before, but I haven't missed the surge as my temperatures are still low. Who knows, maybe the timing will all turn out to be perfect in the end? I will do another opk tonight to see how things look.
For the first time in ages I actually had three glasses of wine with a friend yesterday. It was good to have a chat and unwind a bit. I think I may have needed it. I usually keep alcohol consumption very low as I am ttc. But after years of doing it I am beginning to wonder if I should relax on that a bit. I don't know, some days I think all my hard work with food,supplements, not taking drugs (as in over the counter pain-killers),not drinking etc etc is partly causing stress and I should let it go. As well as the guilt for drinking too much caffeine But then I think, if I am going to have a go at this, I have to do my best because the odds are so poor for me, I have to be good.
Anyway, today is a fast day, so I will probably have a bit too much caffeine, but I will only eat nutrient dense foods, will take my supplements (when I eat) and will swim laps. So I guess it is falling in favour of "doing the right thing" for ttc.
calibee, how is everything going for you? I know how awful it is with looming due dates, but I am glad your DH is there with you. I am sure his cuddles will help.
I hope everyone else is ok.
Check in and let us know.
Thank you for all the congrats.
I haven't been so good on the avoiding alcohol recently as have spent the week celebrating our engagement! Going to try to be good now though.
Just back from a nice weekend in London. Met a nice group of women while out on Saturday, one of whom had 10 children & looked amazing! She kept asking if we were going to have a child together & that we must try. We told her we were leaving it to fate and left it at that, but it can be tough when people keep encouraging you to have a baby at a time you have been trying for a while. DP has a couple of weeks off work starting tomorrow so at least we may have a chance to try a little more this month.
2minds congratulations for your engagement!
calibee as the 22th will be the first anniversary from my baby tfmr, I guess how you're feeling with due date approaching....I hope finally having your hubby with you will help..
I'm coping better then expected, especially considering af hit me a few days ago and next cycle there won't be any ttc because I'll be on holiday without dp..we already had one week together and with dd in switzerland/france where I lived for one year as a kid..we also met one schoolmate of mine whom I hadn't seen for about 20 yrs..that was very beautiful..there are still so many things to appreciate in life, aren't there? On
2minds congratulations, that is lovely, happy news
gum Good for you to try and get the dtd into a really small window of opportunity! No one can say that you're not trying everything possible, I do admire your stamina!
Hope you don't mind me saying, but I'm not sure I agree with this fasting diet of yours... In my experience, these types of diet only make your body go into starvation mode, making it even more difficult to lose weight. Probably not what you want to hear, sorry! But I have tried so many different diets, and the bottom line for me now is - watch what I eat and especially how much, and to try to be as active as possible. Which I think you are, blimey, 50 laps in the pool?! I'd be dead
calibee Hope you are enjoying having your DH with you, how long is he staying (he might have already left again, sorry if I get the dates wrong). Due dates are so difficult - I had the one for my 1st mc at the end of July, just when the world was reeling with the news of Royal baby George. There was no escape, and I have to admit that I cried while watching the TV news of Will & Kate leaving the hospital with their new son (only to then be appalled at how they strapped him into the car seat!). It's tough, and I hope that you'll get plenty of distraction with your move. hugs
Diege Have a lovely and relaxing holiday!
It looks as if things might resolve themselves for me soon. My hope for a natural miscarriage has not been fulfilled, and after speaking to the EPU again today to discuss my options, I have now decided to go for the medical management. I am just so tired and fed up with waiting, I want it over and done with. They are reluctant to do the surgery because of the size of my sac, as well as timing (Bank holiday coming up, difficult to fit me in).
I'm off work this week as well, I couldn't face going in and risking it all kicking off while I'm there anymore (it was extremely stressful going to the loo every time last week, I was so worried that I'd pass the sac) - even though it was a good distraction!
I feel strangely relieved, now that I've taken the decision, at least I know now what's going to happen and when. And they'll be able to take everything off me immediately to get it analysed (I qualify for tests now to investigate why I keep having mcs).
So all in all, not what I wanted for my ideal scenario, but given the circumstances, I guess it's second best.
I really don't know where I'll go from here. Will I be able to face another round of ttc? I still would love a sibling for DS. And for myself - I would love another opportunity to bring this new person into the world and watch it grow and develop. DS is so lovely and gorgeous (well, at the moment), and I want another opportunity to experience this! Sounds all soppy and gooey, but I'm an emotional mess at the moment .
Sorry for the essay!
Jbrd Please dont apologise for the essay your post was pretty succinct compared to some of mine. Come and vent whenever you need. I am not surprised you are en emotional mess at the moment. Any woman would be in your circumstances. Are you getting good support in RL? It does sound good that you can get some answers now. Im assuming from what you say that DS is your only child at the mo. I dont want my DS to be an only child. I am trying to brace myself mentally for him to be our only child though. Secondary infertility can be even more torturous than primary as support in RL can be lacking (well you have the one, cant you be happy with him, etc etc.)
Have been looking some more at the Fertility Friends thread and collating more info from there so going to digest that and start stocking up on supps as long as I think they will be ok while BF. I guess theres a long enough gap btwn morning feeds and bedtime. About 7 hours to digest! Time to ditch the evening glass of wine too!! I keep getting a last, good bottle of fizz to round it off and then cave and get more.
I cant write any more if I wanted on this post, as DS wants me to sit with my face right up to the TV too while Night Garden is on!
jbrd - sorry I am posting under a different name from what I would do normally on this thread. But I just want to ask if you have had another scan, since the one at 7+4? I only ask because I had a scan at 7+3, known dates etc and sac measuring less than 5 weeks, empty etc. was told it was wrong dates or miscarriage. Went back 11 days later and baby fine, correct size for dates etc, and went on to be normal pregnancy with my daughter. I am sorry if the miscarriage has been confirmed, as having multiple miscarriages myself, I know how hard it is to cope with. But I just wanted to suggest you get a second scan before taking medical management. I am sorry for interfering if a sad loss has been confirmed already.
Jbrd, I do understand your desire to have the miscarriage complete. I hope the medical management goes well (as well as can be expected). I wish now that I had gone for that option for my second miscarriage instead of the surgical option as I do worry it may have caused scarring.
As for the fasting - I totally agree with you - I have always thought that starving diets were a bad idea, but from all the scientific and anecdotal evidence, I think the fasting is very different as you are not starving the rest of the time - just two days a week. It is what our ancestors did - it was feast and famine- and our bodies are adapted to function best like that. Also, the medical evidence for lowering cholesterol, blood sugar etc makes me think it is a good idea. Of course if (when) I get pregnant I plan to eat a good balanced diet without any fasting. Roll on BFP!
I am so pleased to report that I still haven't had a positive opk. DH will be home tonight. I had a very low temperature this morning, so I think I may ovulate tomorrow or the next day, so I will do another opk tonight, and also seduce DH. I hope he isn't too tired from all the driving, but I bet he'll need some relaxation From all accounts, his father's surgery went well, but we don't know yet how bad the skin cancer is,and if it has spread.
Waving to willitbe - I wish I could work out who you used to be
mozzamummy, your holiday to Switzerland sounds lovely.
Hello everyone else. I must dash, have to get the brood ready for school and myself for work without DH to help...oh wait, that's the same as every day
Willitbe - yes, I did have another follow-up scan last week, when I should have been nearly 9 weeks, and the results were exactly the same. The EPU is extremely careful with these things, they did not even refer to it as miscarriage, that term only started to be used once I discussed management options with them.
Just been in to sign the consent form and take the first rounds of meds. Then back in on Thursday (unless things happen in the meantime). Quite resigned to it all now, sigh. Trying to take my mind off things by doing some baking and garden work. Oh, and getting my eyebrows threaded later
Willit thanks for sharing the info on scans etc. Really useful to know. The medical profession scares me! I've heard so many awful stories recently.
Jbrd it's good to hear the EPU have taken care with you. Thinking of you. It must be awful to go through. Have you got nice weather where you are? It's lovely and summery again in London. How are your eyebrows? I don't have any left to thread!!
I was stocking up on painkillers in Boots as DS a bit poorly today. Not sure what's up with him, but glad I worked out the lady in front was carting a chicken-pox ridden child around. Gave them a wide berth and made sure the shop assistant kept well clear of DS. She pointedly used some hand gel after I commented on it. It crossed my mind to buy some Pregnacare while I was there but I couldn't be bothered, which is not really the attitude is it???!! And I am sure I must be ovulating or close on it as had a wildly erotic dream last night. In fact, I had no idea I'd got such a good imagination!! I think that's enough over-sharing for the time being though!!
Jbrd - it is good that you had confirmation. I hope that the med's work quickly and efficiently for you. Having been through several miscarriages myself (that should help hopefulgum work out who I am!), I can empathise with you. I hope that everyone around you ensures you get extra TLC too.
Good morning ladies. I am glad the weather is sunny in London Fireflies, it has been cold and wet for ever over here. I do love the rain, but not every day for two weeks straight! How am I supposed to get my washing dry? My living room resembles a Chinese laundry. And I have to use the dryer which is practically unheard of in my house.
Jbrd, I hope the medical management is not too painful and difficult. I know a miscarriage is difficult, no matter how it happens, but I hope for you, the physical part isn't too bad. ((hugs))
Fireflies I am a bit of your erotic dream! It's been a while since I had one of those. My DH got home last night, and we DTD, but to be honest, it isn't exactly an erotic dream He's come home with the man flu, so I dosed him up with cold and flu meds, and we managed a quickie. What is so bleeding frustrating is I still haven't had a positive opk. And, yes, I did want it to hold off because DH was away, but now I am tired, and kind of wish I was ovulating today so I can feel I'd done my bit for this month. As it is, I doubt I'll be able to interest my DH when he is full of snot and a sore head [frustrated emoticon]. I am now on day 14, but it is not unusual for me to ovulate on day 15 or 16, and once it was day 22 . I only have one more opk left, so I will use it today, then I will just have to try to have SWI every second day and hope for the best...
willitbe, I think I might know who you are, but there have been a few over forties who have had multiple miscarriages. Anyway, are you ttc now? How old is your baby?
The "baby" is now 8 years old, my middle child. I have stopped ttc for some time now, (must be about 4 or more threads ago???!!!! I used to keep the lists in order) but I do keep a check on old friends here. I look forward to the day when I am celebrating your pregnancy.
Awww Gallway. How are you?? I hope you are well. Miss your lists!!
Oh, Yes, I thought it was you, Galway . It is lovely that you still keep an eye on us. I still find it hard to believe I am still here, still ttc after all this time. I wish I had the strength to give up, and at times I do think I can do it, but it never lasts.
My youngest DS will turn 5 tomorrow. He is the beautiful miracle baby I thought I would never have, so I know I have been very blessed, and it is probably very cheeky of me to want more of the same, but it doesn't stop me.
I finally got my + opk yesterday. But my DH is full of the man-flu and stayed up marking (he's also a teacher), and we didn't DTD. I am not actually all that bothered. I think the + opk was catching the end of the surge because I felt O pain last night and this morning my temperature is up. So I think I ovulated last night and DTD the night before is probably good timing. Last night may have been better, but c'est la vie - I can't do anything about it now. I still feel timing was good enough and I have as much chance as any month. Maybe we'll DTD tonight, just in case. But I have felt my cervix and it is shut up tight and very firm, so I doubt it would make a difference.
I seem to have picked up DH's cold now, so I might just go to bed with a hot water bottle and a good book
What's going on for everyone else???
Tiptoe-ing in to whisper hello, because it seems like everyone must be asleep...it is very quiet in the snug this last couple of days.
DS turned 5 today and has been so delighted at the gifts and treats, it's so lovely. I am so very lucky to have had this little fellow in my forties. If anyone is in any doubt, it has been so worthwhile.
Anyway, fertility friend says I ovulated three days ago, but I beg to differ. I think when I put another high temperature in tomorrow, it will shift ovulation day, and if it doesn't I will. Not that it makes any difference, if fertilization took place, then I will know soon enough and one day won't make much difference.
I did another fast day on Thursday and it is getting quite easy, but I am not impressed with thw lack of weight loss. I suppose I am not getting fatter which is a good thing, but I was hoping to be substantially slimmer by Christmas
It's Friday night and DS (20) has made pizza and a malteaser cake. He's so handy around the kitchen But I can't eat pizza, so I will have to put something together for me. Then We'll watch "Broadchurch" which we are enjoying immensely, and then fall into bed!
Love to all, would love to hear some news.
jbrd, I hope all is well for you (( ))
Happy birthday to your DS gum! Hope your FIL is doing well after his op.
I have been very quiet as got yet more problems - my Dad has what looks like a tumour and is really suffering. I'm just waiting to book my ticket to go see them when we know more. Work has been chaotic and a bit annoying... not many people are around but still need to progress. My little one is more than ready to go back to creche in September. Her dad's job is being extended which is great news. Ttc is still not top of our list sady! AF came early this month so this is the weekend to get to it... Wish us luck and oh the energy to get down to it !
The DHEA has started to make me bristle (!) but I'm going to persevere.
Welcome back Fireflies - hope your stay is short. Hope you're doing OK JBrd? Love to everyone and a hello from me to willitbe too!
Happy birthday to your little boy gum! Hope you had a lovely day. Sounds like good timing for this month, according to those stats on the babycentre website your chances are better from dtd on the two days prior to ovulation than on the day itself anyway.
It must be great having your DS cooking for you! My DS,also 20,is coming home this weekend but unfortunately he prefers eating what I've baked rather than doing it himself! He's already put in an order for things like roast dinners that he doesn't make for himself when he's away !
Isadorable so sorry to hear about your Dad's health problems,it must be a worry for you. Is your little one getting bored over the summer hols?
It's good that she enjoys creche and is looking forward to going back, it makes it very hard to leave them if they're crying and clinging to you!
Good luck for this weekend!
JBrd hope everything is progressing for you and the medical management is effective. It is agonising to be left in limbo waiting to miscarry so at least it will be some relief when it is complete,and I'm glad they can do some investigation for you. I was told even after my third MC they wouldn't do any workup for me as I was 44 with three DC..
Hello to a fellow countrywoman willitbe ,nice to hear from you again!
Do I remember correctly that you were considering fostering? That's something I'd love to do but I would find it hard to give the children back!
Hi Irish - hope you have a lovely weekend with your son. How are things with your family? My dd loves crèche though she is moving to one loser to here in September so we may have tears again. She's had a good summer but when I have lots of work she does get stuck with Charlie and Lola more than I'd like. Yes very upsetting about my dad. We just need to know what it is now I suppose and take it from there.
Irish - hi, yes you remember correctly regarding the fostering, it has been a very slow application, we are going to "panel" in two weeks time. Then hopefully we will be on the books to foster.
If I am honest I still have moments of thinking about ttc again, but focussing on fostering has helped me stick to using contraception, which is good, as I am not sure how sain I would be if we did restart ttc!!!!
Seeing folk here on this thread get their babies has helped me through the process of stopping ttc. I can enjoy others joy at reaching their dream. I hope that there are many more babies soon!
Just popping in to say hi quickly. Our internet us down so posting from my phone instead of being able to catch up properly. Gum, your little DS sounds lovely, and I hope he thoroughly enjoyed his birthday.
JBrd, I hope the medical management resolves things quickly. Thinking of you.
All ok here, baby now engaged, due next week, but expect to need induction. I've been really tired today, not much sleep, due to DD mainly, then walked the mile into town & back with bag full of picnic stuff, which I didn't expect to wear me out as much as it did, as Im very used to the walk.
Welcome back fireflies, I hope you only gave a short wait for DC 2.
Hi to everyone else, enjoy the bank holiday!
Fireflies, obviously that should say have.....
Oh, nice to see some chatting in the Snug.
My LO had a great birthday. He was so excited and impressed with the gift we bought him. He kept saying it was the best day of his life and how much he loved his dad and me. He's so delightful, God knows I love him fiercely.
We are having a casserole evening tonight with some friends (11 adults and 15 kids ), to celebrate Charlie's birthday, so today will be busy. I don't know what possessed me to organise the kids haircuts this morning as well as take DD to netball etc! I hope my DH will step up and help out a bit more than he usually does otherwise I will be stressed out and by the time our friends arrive I will be ready for bed [crazy woman emoticon].
After this morning's nice high temperature, fertility friend moved my ovulation day to where I thought it should be. So we had SWI 4,3 and 1 day before ovulation. I know 2 days is optimum, but this will have to do. Surely there would have been sperm in the right place at the right time? I actually feel that timing and sperm meeting egg is not the issue for me. I think it is more to do with quality of the egg, and/or implantation issues. But I do believe on of these eggs will be alright if I just persevere.
Just read on fertility friends of women having babies, naturally, at 50 and 53 I know they are rare, but it makes me feel hopeful. If a 50 year old can, then surely it isn't too late at 46?
isadorable, thank you for asking after my FIL. He had a rather large skin cancer cut from his face, poor thing, and now has to have another bout of radiation therapy (which he had about 6 months ago). I am afraid he is very down about it and when my DH talked to him last night he basically said he feels he hasn't got long . He asked his doctor if he should go traveling (to visit his daughter in another state) or wait and the doctor told hm not to wait. I am not sure how we should interpret that. It may be that the Dr thinks he should just keep living his life despite the treatment, or maybe the Dr is saying he hasn't got long, so he needs to do things now? We don't know, and FIL's always been a glass half empty kind of man so his take on it is that he's going to pass away soon..
He has had so many health issues in the last two years, I guess he sick of it all (deep vein thrombosis, pancreatitis, skin cancer). He is only about 76, but he seems a lot older and quite frail. He isn't very active anymore, tends to sleep a lot or watch television. It is quite sad as he used to be very active and involved in life.
I hope you dad is ok, and that you will know soon what is going on.
Gum your poor fil - my dad has had dvts and he is nearly 75 and recently seemed very frail. So sad. I am in awe of you cooking for so many people. Hope it went well.
Sparkly - how exciting to be nearly there. Hope you can get some rest now over the bank holiday- when's your due date?
I need to get up and clear up the house. More space really has equalled more mess in our case! I don't think we're having enough action for me to get pregnant. Better try and step it up a gear as I can feel the months slipping past even if I don't want to make it rule my life I know we need to give it importance or we'll regret it...
Waving from over here. I am soldiering on, very happy to be pregnant but feeling rather drained.
Coincidentally I'm also concerned about my Dad who's unwell fortunately he doesn't live too far from Ds mum so I'm going to see him tomorrow evening when she's in bed.
Love and to all
Hello, I wonder if I can join you?
I am 42 and have been ttc dc4 for 2 years, although only charting for the last 4 months.
I have posted over on the short luteal thread as my cycle only lasts 20ish days and my LP is around 7 days.
I have had a fallopian tube removed 2 years ago, and had two miscarriages prior to this. No problems conceiving up to that point.
Do any of you who already have DC feel awful going to the GP to ask for help? I haven't been able to face it yet.
Welcome OgdenNash. Have you tried anything for the short luteal phase? I have heard B6 is good, and also Vitex. Progesterone will also help. I think it is worth talking to your GP about it as it may make a difference.
I think it depends on what your GP is like. I see two GP's (I am in Australia and can shop around for a doctor). One is my family doctor whom I see for all sorts of things, but I see a different one about all things baby related as she is much more compassionate. However, even if your GP isn't compassionate, they have an obligation to help you, don't they, no matter your age? In my opinion, you are still young and have time to have a baby. I don't thin it matters if you already have have kids. I have five but that isn't stopping me, nor should it make any difference with the GP. I think there are rules in the UK regarding NHS funded IVF and if you already have kids.
Hello Isabeller, how far along your pregnancy are you now? Have you have the scan around 18-20 weeks? And have/will you find out the sex? It is so exciting. Sorry you are feeling drained, but it will be worth it.
My LO has woken up feeling terrible. His head cold has gone from bad to worse, so I will take him to the doctor's today. We have had a bad run in this house. I think I am the only one who hasn't been sick this last couple of weeks. Touch wood I stay healthy.
Hello everybody, yesterday my phone deleted my post ..I'm summarising here, gum, isabeller, isadorable Iam sorry for your fathers and father in law..
I'm having a beautiful holiday with my daughter, my sister and nephew at the seaside..each of them is a one child and it's beautiful to have them together, they're just one year apart..
Feeling a bit grumpy about skipping this cycle as Dp is not here, but it will be good to skip the tww too!
I heard yesterday about a lady who has her babies at 42,45 ..not bad!!
22Th was my baby girl anniversary and I visited her grave, it was a tearful day, even Dp ended up in crying after a stupid raw between us and then left the house, he then calmed down and then came back again..I realize he's still grieving too, but there's no way to let him speak about it and it's hard to speak about ttc too because the two things are so entangled together..
Welcome Ogden . May your stay with us be short and fruitful!!
Mozzarella I hope you are ok? I'm so sorry to hear about the anniversary of your baby girl. I hope you and DP are feeling better. Great you are having a nice holiday with your family.
Isabeller keep enjoying that . When's the baby due?
Am slowly looking at what supps I can take while BF DS. He does not want to be weaned!!
We all seem to be having trouble with our DF's and FIL's. It is tough trying to balance a young family with ageing parents. I feel under a real obligation to get myself fit and healthy for DS so I can be around and helpful to him for as long as possible.
Waves to Gum and everyone else. Hope you've all been enjoying the bank holiday. FF xx
Rats, lost post. Firstly, welcome to the new people. This is a very supportive thread. (I have an adult DD and am pregnant after DE IVF for age and medical reasons).
I'm so sorry to hear about your tearful day mozzarella.
I'm 18 weeks tomorrow and still getting some pretty rough days with headaches and nausea. I started out too fat but moderately fit but nearly 4 months of spending half the week lying in a heap is not improving matters. I agree 100% with your take on fitness fireflies there must be something constructive I can do despite having to start from where I am now. Mind you I can still lift heavy stuff so it's not all bad.
DP heard last week that his hip replacement will be 5 days before my 20 week scan so I'm crossing my fingers I'll be able to get him there somehow. They have an accelerated rehab programme and keep telling him how young he is for this op and how he will no doubt recover really fast. I'm so grateful it is happening now.
Isabeller I carefully researched and then bought a boxed set of ante and post natal exercise DVDs... which have been gathering dust on the shelf ever since they arrived!! . But if that is your thing, might be worth doing a bit of Googling. Sorry to hear you're feeling so rough, but at least you're nearly half way through!!
I effectively lost weight when I was preggers as I only put on one stone, and I slimmed down afterwards v fast. However, I discovered the joys of being able to stuff chocolate, cake and biscuits down my gob like never before, and then it became a very bad habit, so will now have to apply myself to losing it again. Bit of an oopsie, really. I am hoping I can get preggers and lose weight again and then be more careful afterwards. To this aim, I bought 3 bumper packs of Pregnacare today. Time to see if I can coax DH into considering SWI/SWOI - I don't care which it is at the moment!!
Great that you have a date for DH's hip op. From what I know, these ops are no where near as difficult to recover from these days. Hope that is the case for your DH.
I have told myself I have to spend less time on the internet, but it's just so lovely having a chill on the sofa when DS doesn't need anything.
Waves to all. FF xx
Good Morning ladies.I have another day off work looking after sick DS. Honestly, this winter, since getting back from our holiday I have probably averaged a day off a week with all the illness. I am a bit over it and wish I could boost DS's health so he didn't get sick so often. However, realistically, going to kindy and daycare he is going to be exposed to viruses and germs all the time. I wish I could clean up his diet a bit. But the problem is that when he is sick I let him eat anything he likes because I'd rather he ate something, which has led to very bad habits. I am going to make chicken soup from scratch today and try to get him to eat some.
Fireflies, great that you have the pregnacare supplements at the ready My Zita West sups still haven't arrived from the UK. They should do any day now. In the meantime I am taking a prenatal supplement and all the extras : Vit D, Fermented fish oil, Vit E,Magnesium,Royal Jelly,B complex,aspirin, Alpha Lipoic Acid and folic acid.
I am now 7 DPo with a beautiful looking chart. Yesterday during class I noticed a distinct cramping and then a series of wierd stabbing pains in my right breast. Implantation??? Not getting my hopes up, but it was something I couldn't ignore. Today I am noticing some lower abdominal aches. Maybe I just need to go to the toilet
Isabeller, like you, I worried about my fitness when I was pregnant with DS. Like FF I bought a selection of lovely DVD's, mainly pre and post natal yoga. When DS was about 1 I sold them on ebay - unopened The best I could muster was a slow waddle on the beach and some swimming or walking in the pool. I had a very bad loosened sacro-illiac joint which was incredibly painful(towards the end of the pregnancy) which meant all I could manage was walking in the swimming pool. So I put on weight and just resigned myself to losing through breastfeeding, which I did to a point, but not as much as I would have liked. In fact when I was weighed when pregnant again (miscarried) I was 85kgs, which was the heaviest I'd ever been, but the doctor wasn't concerned. I am glad to have lost about 10 kilos since then so that if I get pregnant again I won't have to drag that extra 10 around.
I am still having trouble with my hip, and hope I don't have to have a hip replacement like your DH, Isabeller. Did he have an accident or something that means he needs the replacement?
Mozzamamma,the 22nd must have been a very difficult day. When I light a candle for my DS's whom I miscarried, I will light one for your darling daughter too.
I am glad you are having a nice seaside holiday. May I ask where you have been? My mum and dad have just landed in Italy for a few months. My mother complains about the heat (which is rediculous considering she lives in Australia), but my Dad can't wait to get to his town and wander into the square every evening to chat with his old friends.He always returns to Australia looking fit and tanned and healthy. I am afraid my mother always has a scowl, nothing is ever good enough or right. I wonder why she is so negative and how I ever came from her womb I think I recognised that I didn't fit all that well in my family at a young age and left when I was 17 to live in the city and go to Uni.
Wow, I have nattered on and on haven't I? Sorry! Have a nice piece of for reading through!
Deige, when do you get back from you holiday? I miss you
Hello everyone, how are you all? Welcome to the newbies! And welcome back to the returnees Hope none of you have to stay very long (although you may be like me and not want to leave in the end )
mozzarella I've been thinking of you lately; it must have been so hard. Glad you're enjoying your holiday though.
jbrd how are you? thinking about you too.
I have a lot of sympathy for those struggling with DF/FIL illness; we went through that with my dad a few years ago (he survived, thanks to a heart transplant) and it was hard.
gum hope your DS is better soon.
isabeller I had both hips replaced in my mid-30's and haven't looked back. Recovery is quick as long as you do what you're told and don't push it, but you do need a lot of help and support for a couple of weeks. (I went scuba diving in Egypt 5 weeks after my first op, which maybe wasn't the wisest thing to do, but I felt more than up to it). Best of luck to your DP for his op! (and to you for looking after him )
Saw the gynae yesterday, all well apparently. Heard the heartbeat and (apparently) the swoosh of blood down the placenta. Still tired, though a bit less so; work's been really quiet and I've been able to spend a lot of time at home which has been perfect - bit worried about it getting back into the swing next week though... 16+4 now.
Wow Morien, I can't believe you are already 16+4. I am glad all is well.
I hope al th eother preggo ladies are well too. Sparkly Saphire, do you have any news for us?
Calibee, is your DH still on leave (That's probably why we haven't heard from you
Well, as well as looking after DS all day I have felt quite lousy myself. I am drop dead tired, but I had a reasonable night's sleep. I hope I feel more energetic tomorrow when I am at work. I have literally been completely useless all day.
Thank you for the welcome!
Congratulations on your pregnancies Morien and Isabeller, did it take you very long to get there?
I get very sick when I'm pregnant too, silly that I can't wait for that feeling now!
Your Dad is Italian then Gum? We went to Italy (my first time) this year. I absolutely loved it. It's the first place I've been that I want to go back to. Usually I want to try somewhere new when we can actually afford to go abroad, but I really want to go back to Italy. We stayed in an old farmhouse in the mountains near Lucca, it was stunningly beautiful.
Mozzarella I'm so sorry you have lost your baby girl.
Fireflies what is SWI/SWOI?
Gum I have just started taking- vit c, co-enzyme Q10, evening primrose oil (up to ovulation), zinc, vit b6, b complex, selenium and iron. I think I may get the Pregnacare conception too. DH is rolling his eyes at my stash, he doesn't believe in supplements!
My cycle is strange this month. I am crossing my fingers that I ovulated on Day 10 and had a fallback rise. FF says with a dotted line that I ovulated on day 14. If it was day 10 then my LP was 10 days and I could still be said to be spotting, albeit a bit heavily. Probably wishful thinking though. I've had a possible fallback rise before though on month 2, very similar to this month. I wondered if it could possibly be to do with which ovary is producing? I know they had to do a repair on the right one when the removed my tube, they said it would make no difference but I think they were on damage control by then.
DH thinks perhaps I should look into what went wrong with my diagnosis. I should have had a laparotomy much sooner which could have avoided my tube loss. I don't know if I want to open that can of worms...
Ogden Shagging with/without intent. Though one of the more regular threadees might be able to correct me as I think I might have the initials for the second bit wrong. The supps you are taking are v similar to the list I had. 'Angelbump' recommended taking those on top of Pregnacare. I had an attaché case full!!! DH took his fair share too.
Which reminds me - male infertility increases with age, but is not so well know about. Is worth bearing in mind. My DH certainly had to make lifestyle changes before DS was conceived.
Hi Morien. Nice to meet you.
Good to see we are all getting supp'd up.
Hi all, just popping in quickly. Its my due date today,but no sign of anything & I don't have much faith in due dates anyway. I'm having a sweep tomorrow, but still think I'll need induction on Monday, but hoping not. I'll try & catch up later from laptop not phone,which I'm on now, if I get chance.
Ogden I got my first BFP in the first month of ttc last year, followed by MMC at 11 weeks in early Aug. Started ttc again immediately, but it took quite a few months to get my cycle back on track. Strangely enough, my EDD is only a few days off the EDD from my MMC. It has to be said, though, that my idea of ttc was very low key - no supplements other than pregnancy vitamins with folic acid, no temping, no OPKs ( and irregular cycles!) Lots of DTD though In fact we'd just been told we were unlikely to conceive naturally, and were about to start fertility treatment when I got my BFP
Hello everybody and thanks for your thoughts , gum I'm in the north on the adriatic sea, the sea and beaches are nothing exceptional but this place is very children-friendly with lots of playgrounds on the seaside and my family has a beautiful house built in, the thirties with a beautiful garden..I spent here lots of holidays as a kid..
morien happy to hear from you! sparkly waiting for the big news and the baby name!!
I'm a bit anxious for the new work which is starting soon..I know I'll miss my colleagues, but I really hope I will enjoy teaching ..anyway I'm happy to have a change in life..
I also bought supplements online, it's a mix of coQ10 and vitamins..I couldn't take more then a pill a day because I would mess them all, obviously I forgot to bring them here..I bought something also for dp (zinc, vitamins, taurine) but he doesn't want to take them..I wonder wether after 7-8 months of trying he should also get checked..what do you think? He's absolutely reluctant..
Ogden I don't know if it helps to know, but if you have both ovaries, having only one fallopian tube doesn't reduce your chance of conceiving by 50% (as I was told by a consultant). There are receptors in the uterus and fallopian tube, so even if you ovulate on the 'wrong' side there is still a good chance that the egg will make it into the uterus. I found a great article on this two years ago but can't find it for the moment. There is something on the ectopic.org.uk website if you're interested.
Not sure about pursuing your HP re mis-diagnosis as I don't know your full story, but it is rife in the fertility industry. I was thrown off the TTC track with misdiagnoses of endometriosis, PCOS and a rare form of cancer!
Good luck Sparkling. Nice to have another nearly-grad on the thread.
Mozzarella it would probably be a good idea to get your chap's swimmers checked. We found though that the NHS declared DH's to be ok, whereas fertility clinic suggested it was not so good. The crunch was first round of IVF which had to be ICSI. That shocked DH into doing more. And it cost £1K more!!
Not getting v far on my research on BF and the full list of supps, but feel positive taking Pregnacare again and last night DH proved to be a bit of a hero getting DS off to sleep with just a bottle of manky milk. (It's manky because it's a mix of oat milk, oat cream and prescription formula. The first two are pretty paletable, the second stinks and tastes of gravy so no wonder it's difficult to get him to drink it).
Have a good evening all. ff xx
Hello! Back from hols, plus add-on stay over night at Blackpool 'Pleasure' Beach . Look forward to reading through and catching up - you've been a chatty lot
Hello everybody and thanks for your thoughts , gum I'm in the north on the adriatic sea, the sea and beaches are nothing exceptional but this place is very children-friendly with lots of playgrounds on the seaside and my family has a beautiful house built in, the thirties with a beautiful garden..I spent here lots of holidays as a kid..
morien happy to hear from you! sparkly waiting for the big news and the baby name!!
I'm a bit anxious for the new work which is starting soon..I know I'll miss my colleagues, but I really hope I will enjoy teaching ..anyway I'm happy to have a change in life..
I also bought supplements online, it's a mix of coQ10 and vitamins..I couldn't take more then a pill a day because I would mess them all, obviously I forgot to bring them here..I bought something also for dp (zinc, vitamins, taurine) but he doesn't want to take them..I wonder wether after 7-8 months of trying he should also get checked..what do you think? He's absolutely reluctant..
Sorry again my tricky phone..posted twice
Hello everyone! Thanks for thinking about me, it's much appreciated! I've taken a bit of a break from MN, just reading, but not posting... Been drifting a bit in the last weeks, dealing with the mc and its fallout.
mozza Your little girl's anniversary must have been a tough day, I hope you are managing to get back to a more 'normal' life now (whatever that is). Grief can come in many different ways, and even though we learn how to live with it on a day-to-day basis, it can re-surface violently at any time. I hope that you and your DP can support each other through this. I think we often forget how much men can be affected by losing a baby...
sparkly Happy due date Hope things get moving for you soon! That came around really quickly, blimey.
Same for Morien, how can you be almost 17 weeks already?!
gum Hope you'll all get over your illnesses soon. It's so annoying when it's just one thing after another, you never seem to get a break from feeling poorly.
Hello to the newbies! May your stay on this thread be short
I'm doing OK - turns out that I didn't have to have the whole course of medical management after all. I reacted really strongly to the first round of meds they gave me last Tuesday, the tablet that is meant as a 'preparation', softening the cervix etc. The plan was to go into hospital then on Thursday for the pessary, staying for the day to complete the miscarriage. But after 2 very uncomfortable days (and especially nights!) with lots of paracetamol, I passed a big piece of tissue on Thursday morning. I took it with me into hospital, and they confirmed what I had suspected, it was the sac. Then they sent me straight back home again.
I can't say how relieved I was that I didn't have to do the medical treatment after all, I had been dreading it.
I've been recovering really well since then, although I seem to have managed to pick up an infection - currently on antibiotics, which seem to be doing the trick.
The kind GP actually wrote me a sick note for the whole week, but I am seriously thinking about going back to work tomorrow... As nice as it is being at home, but I am dreading the return to reality a bit and would like it to be over and done with... Been living in a bit of a bubble since the bad news of the mc.
On the other hand, it's lovely just sitting in the garden and reading, so relaxing and soothing for my prickly state of nerves... It's pretty much all I did today - after I drove my mum to the airport. She's been visiting since Friday, and could not have picked a worse time, the poor thing. I'm ashamed to say that I was absolutely horrible to her She means so well, but she drives me crazy. Which I struggle with at the best of times, but with the mc to deal with as well - very bad combination. I think she was really looking forward to going home . I cringe when I think about how awful I was [guilty emoticon]. Why do relationships with parents have to be so difficult?!
Jbrd sorry to hear you're having such a rough time, though good to hear that you're recovering well. Take it easy. Don't go back to work before you have to though. Take the time to recover properly and with a sick note!!
I'm sure your Mum understands. I have similar scenarios with mine. If you think she would appreciate it, can you send her some flowers or just a card reminding her that you love her really??! I agree, relationships with parents and other family members can be wrought with difficulties, and I don't know about you, they seem to get worse as we get older.
Night all. FF xx
Jbrd, I feel for you. Yes, relationships with parents can be difficult. I know mine is (but I know that ours is pretty dysfunctional). I couldn't have coped having my mum around when I was going through the miscarriage and emotional aftermath. In fact my parents have no idea that I have miscarried.
Hopefully the next time you see your mum, you can have a better visit. I think your behaviour is completely acceptable under the circumstances and I am sure your mum understands. I think reading in the garden for a few more days wouldn't be a bad thing. I understand that getting back to work means "getting back to normal", but be kind to yourself, it is a tough journey, and emotionally you are probably still a bit raw.
I am glad you didn't need the medical management in the end. Will they test what you passed (sorry, don't know how to phrase it)? Having the testing done really helped me to understand that the baby wasn't well enough to continue growing. Of course it didn't make me feel good about any of it, I still felt angry and cheated, but it helped me understand that it wasn't something I could have avoided.
Mozzamummy, how lovely to have a beautiful home on the coast to holiday in.
Nice to hear from you Sparkly, can't wait for the news of your new baby.
Welcome home Diege, looking forward to hearing all about your holiday.
Fireflies, are you trying to wean baby fireflies? His concoction sounded rather unappetising Are you concerned about falling pregnant while breastfeeding? I was, but I did fall pregnant while bf Charlie. However after I miscarried (I stupidly thought it may have contributed)I weaned him. I did find the BFing really difficult in the first trimester. My nipples were so sensitive - that's how I knew I was pregnant.
I am feeling that way at the moment actually, though no longer breastfeeding (obviously). But my nipples are so sore and it was almost unbearable to have DH touch them He also commented on them being really "hot" (and he meant temperature). Yesterday I felt so tired, I really do wonder. I know it is way too early for symptoms, but I feel like I could be pregnant.I know, I say this far too often for it to have any weight. Just ignore me.... Still have to wait a few more days to test anyway.
That's what I say every cycle until I get to 9DPO and just can't help myself...
Hi everyone, I was here last year in Sep when I had a mc at almost 11 weeks having fallen pregnant unexpectedly at 41. Despite not having planned the pregnancy I found myself wanting to try again to replace the loss. DH (reluctantly) agreed, to keep me happy I think; he is 11 years older than me and we have two DDs already.
Anyway, finally got another BFP in June but it seems the same has happened again, at exactly the same point in the pregnancy. Have had spotting throughout then heavy bleeding this week at almost 11 weeks. Phoned EPU who said just to come in for my 12 week scan as planned on Monday.
I haven't posted for a long time as I found it made me even more obsessive about TTC but have kept up with all your news - Congrats to Morien, Diege and Sparkly and others with good news. Was gutted to read your updates JBrd, I was due in March too - hope you're doing OK. Always look forward to your posts Gum every morning. Hello to everyone else too.
My dilemma now is whether to give this another go or just to accept that it was not meant to be. DH wants us to move on and accept it, but I keep changing my mind. My head tells me that there are so many negatives - our ages (DH is 53, I am 42) and the implications of this in terms of health risks, finances, retirement plans and energy levels - let alone the fact that there is a real chance that this too would end in mc. Then there is the fact that my DDs, at 7 and 10, are becoming more independent and there would be a huge age gap between them and any baby, meaning the new addition would almost be like an only child. It would mean that there would be less money and attention to spend on the girls and they would miss out on travel and other experiences.
Despite all this, my heart still longs for another and it's hard to revise this vision of the future that I longingly imagined. Time is running out and I already regret not trying for DC3 earlier, I don't want to look back in years to come and regret not giving it one last chance. I do try to analyse this longing - is it because the clock is ticking that I feel such a pressure to have another; is it a way of denying my children are growing up and will leave me one day; or is it just denying the inevitable fact of the menopause and growing old.
Sorry for rambling, but it is quite cathartic as I can't really talk to anyone in RL, including DH as he just doesn't really get it. So to sum up, I might be joining you again, I might not - how's that for decisive action .
Gum there are two issues with BF DS now. My main concern is that some of the conception supplements may not be good for him to consume via my milk. Also he was waking up to five times a night and BF was the only way to get him back to sleep. I think we are slowly getting there. Its been difficult intensive teething and a cows milk allergy have made it difficult hence the unappealing cocktail!! If DH can get him off to sleep again without me and it becomes a regular thing, then I can take a load of supps in the evening and digest them overnight. I think the two remaining daytime feeds are going to be more difficult to drop. I would BF while preggers, though I am exhausted enough as it is, so I doubt if I would have the stamina to do so. I'd probably have to spend 9 months on the sofa!!
I hope your hot nips are a good sign!!
Hi Woolly. Hoping you're wrong about the MC. You and your DH are similar ages to me and my DH (I'm 3 years older than you and DH 3 years younger than you.) The age gap btwn us and DS really worries me. The finance issues is a big worry to me too. I'm sure you'll find a way through it all.
Really have to apply myself to some packing now. Having a long w/e in Edinburgh. Really looking forward to it. Just wish the bags would pack themselves!!
Mozza, your baby girl's anniversary must have been so hard, I have been thinking of you.
JBrd, I'm sorry you had a hard time with your mum, I know I wouldn't have coped with mine around after my m/c, I'm sure she'll understand how hard this is for you. What a relief to avoid the full medical management, but please don't go back to work before you feel ready.
Woolly, you sound like you're having a difficult time, I'm so sorry you've had another m/c. I hope you can reach a decision you & your DH are both comfortable with regarding TTC.
I'm sorry to see so many of you having DFs/FILs with health problems, and hope they are resolved soon. As DH and I both lost our DFs many years ago, it's our DMs we have to worry about - I think they can both be a bit difficult in different way as they've only had themselves to please for so many years. They're both in reasonable health at the moment, so long may that continue.
Diege, I hope Whitby was lovely and you got some rest.
Good luck for this month gum, and I hope your DS is back to full health soon, it sounds like a bad run. Both DH and DD have colds - this definitely not the time for me to have one.
Welcome ogden, hi fireflies, and hello to all. DD and DH are out for a bit, I suppose I'd better go and fill in my birth plan - I expect to all be irrelevant if I'm induced which is why I haven't done it before.
Fireflies I didn't know that, thank you- it gives me a little more hope. I don't know if I have the energy to pursue anything regarding my treatment aswell as ttc, an apology from them for the dismissiveness would be nice though!
Good luck with the weaning, not easy even without an allergy. Have a lovely w/e!
JBrd I'm sorry for your loss. Family are so awkward sometimes. After my second miscarriage my DM (who I usually get on well with) asked if I was sure I had ever been pregnant! I hope you manage to take some time for yourself before you have to return to work.
Gum I find it hard to hold off on the testing too, today even though I am spotting heavily (not sure if I should actually count this as AF), I was feeling very nauseous and have been a little for a few days. I ended up testing. And it was negative. And then I felt a bit silly again.
woolly our situations are rather similar and I have spent the last two years hoping it would just happen, two years I really wish I hadn't wasted. I was frightened off by my miscarriages a few years ago, and I too struggle to analyse my reasons. My Mum says it's just something a lot of women live with, you always want more, but I'm not so sure- I know most of my friends have definitely decided no more for them with no regrets. I have decided I am going to speak to my GP though, I'm hoping she will check my progesterone. So many on here have said spotting and early miscarriage can be down to low progesterone. I'm making an appt tomorrow. I hope your scan on Monday brings good news. I bled heavily early in one of my pregnancies but baby stayed put!
Good morning ladies.
Hello woolly, I remember you. It is good to see you because so many of our regulars are regular for a while and then they disappear and I always wonder what happened to them. I am really sorry to hear that you may be miscarrying again. Gosh, it is so darn hard trying for a baby after 40. Some women get pregnant easily and have easy pregnancies and healthy babies (I did at 41 yrs and 9 months), but then some of us have to deal with the heartbreak of hope and loss, and sometimes over and over again.
I too think of all the things you mentioned. My DS is now 5. Why would I want to start over again? When I embarked on this ttc journey I just wanted to give him a sibling close in age because his nearest sibling is 8 years older. And I was naive enough to believe that with my proven fertility record (5 kids, all easily conceived, no miscarriages) I would give my DS a sibling before he was 4. How wrong I was. And as time has passed I know that it isn't just about giving him a sibling, it is also about what I dearly want, and that is to have one last baby. I absolutely love having babies and kids (clearly, as I chose to have all 5 of mine), I really feel one last child will complete my family and would be good for all of us, not just DS.
But after trying for so long, I ask myself why I would continue to do this, when: there's a very good possibility of more heartache - miscarriage, or worse, a baby with health issues,or not compatible with life; I am 46, almost 47 and the truth is, my 5 year makes me tired so how on earth do I expect I will cope with a baby/toddler at this age? My job is going really well, DS is in full-time school next year, so we'll have two decent wages and no childcare fees - the best off financially we've ever been; almost all my friends (bar the ones on this thread ) have moved on from the baby stage, most have grown up kids, and are doing all sorts of fun stuff without kids (though to be honest that doesn't bother me much, it does bother DH); and, a BIG factor, my DH doesn't really want a baby, he wanted to move on before we had DS, so another won't be a source of joy for him (though he'd be a great dad no matter what);lastly (that I can think of right now) TTC month after month, year after year can get pretty tedious, and in my case a bit addictive - I find it so hard to let it go- which in some ways might just be a force of habit, but I really think it is because I don't want to give it up. It is also a maddening rollercoaster of emotions. Most of the time I am just fine, but the tww can be a bit crazy. Despite continuously saying I won't get my hopes up, I do, every month, and then when the test is fucking negative,yet again, I feel shit for a couple of hours and just pretend everything is alright. And I do all of it without mentioning a single skerrick of information to my DH. I guess if I stopped ttc I would also save myself a pretty penny on all things ttc related: opks,preg tests,supplements. I could start spending that money on something useful like a gym membership or a Thermo mix
But here's the thing- I just want to carry another child for 9 months, give birth and see the look on the faces of my children when they hold the baby for the first time. There's just nothing better than that, so I am still plugging away, month after month, year after year, and the truth is I don't think I will give up until I no longer have periods. My DH might get one hell of a shock when at 50 I get pregnant with a THB and he's 56 !! I still don't think that is too old for a man.
BTW, I got a BFN at 9 dpo this morning. I know it is early, but the latest I have ever had a BFP was 10 dpo. All the others were at 9 DPO.
Fireflies, I hope you have a lovely weekend in Edinburgh. I would so love to visit that city. But the way things are going I will have spent our last dollar on pregnancy tests and we'll be eighty and still not have travelled to Europe !
Ogdennash, crossed posts. Sorry about your BFN. Don't feel silly, many pregnancies start with spotting. I think it is a very good idea to get you progesterone checked. It might just be the magic bullet you need
Hello Gum (and everyone else). I've lurked here for a couple of years but have only posted two or three times. I could have written your post above myself! Ginger ninja is six and a half now. We decided she would be enough, I saw the doc about getting sterilised, then I realised I wanted one last shot at it. Maybe just to feel a baby in my arms again, do things differently, give DD a sibling, I dont know. Im 42 in Jan and having looked at the risks DH said no way. By March and DDs sixth birthday I could have begged, borrowed or stolen a baby. We went on holiday in June and we had a great time with Dd and I had a lightbulb moment. I dont want another baby, my life is good, DD is everything to me. It just felt that everything was slipping out of my control. I was getting older, DD was growing up and didnt need me as much, my body wouldnt do things twenty year olds take for granted! What Im trying to say is I understand the overwheming need for another baby. Its something you should never have to justify either. Will go back to lurking but await news of all your BFPs.
Gum, I think while there's still a chance it might happen it's hard to give up on that dream. I just find the uncertainty so frustrating - if I knew that this was a non-starter I would find a way of coming to terms with that but there's always that possibility that it might happen, hence the constant roller-coaster of hope and disappointment.
Rowgtfc72, I think it's great that you realized you were happy and took back the control of your life - that's what I feel is missing at the moment - that I'm letting fate control my life rather than making a conscious decision.
I've just been reading some of the threads about parenting sleepless babies and tantrumming toddlers in the hope that I will feel better about (probably) never having to do it again. Then I remember the smell of a newborn's head and I'm back to square one...
rowgtfc72, thanks for popping in. It is great that you feel that way, I often wish I could feel the same way. I read on another site, "when there's a baby shaped hole in your heart there's only one thing that can fill it", and that's how I feel.
However, I am intelligent enough to understand that not everyone has the holes in their heart (whatever shape they may take) filled, and I may never have this gap filled.
But as long as I can, I will keep at it. And if I get an epiphany and suddenly realise that it is better not to embark on a new baby, then I will be grateful for that release.
Incidentally, I went out for dinner last night with a friend for her birthday and she invited her other friend who is 39 weeks pregnant. So, all evening the talk was about pregnancy, babies, birth. I am pleased that I was able to happily chat about it without feeling at all sad. I was just really pleased for her, and in some ways, glad she was one carrying the huge bump around (which looked exhausting!). But as I sat there with her, I did often think,"maybe that will be me in 9 -12 months time".
I doubt it will be me in 9 months time. Another clear BFN this morning. I am okay with it. I watched the last episode of Broadchurch when I got up and had a solid good cry and counted all my blessings.
Right, off to the farmer's market, then a catch up with my little sister.
Have a lovely day everyone
Gum, I hope I didnt come across as insensitive. I was chatting to a lady at dds swimming who had her last baby at 46. All natural, no help. Its never game over till your out of the game, and from the way you post your still very much in the game. Theres nothing to say it wont be you in 12 months time. (doesnt quite say what I mean to say but hope you get the drift)
Hey there. I think I might just join you ladies. I'm 42 at the end of next month and just about at TTC stage from next week. I had a mmc at 9 weeks in July which was managed by ERPC. I had a little boy last year and a late miscarriage in 2010 when we lost two little boys at 20 weeks. So here I am ready to start all over again. I never actually worried about ever getting pregnant so we just never started until I was 38 and we fell with the boys after just 4 months, 6 months with DS and just one month this year. Feeling scared and more than a little depressed to be in this situation but hey here goes. If I don't try we'll never know and I don't want to reach 50 and realise that I made a mistake by not trying. Wish me luck and happy (really?!) TTC everyone else. x
Welcome Horseygirl. So sorry about your losses. I hope you will have your THB soon. It seems you fall pregnant quite easily, so you may not have to wait too long.
Row, don't worry I didn't think you were insensitive at all. I admire anyone who has been through this journey and is able to stop when they've have enough or realise that it isn't what they want anymore. Unfortunately, I seem to come quite close to that decision, but then can't quite follow through
Anyway, this cycle is a bust, as my temperature has slid downwards and a clear BFN this morning. No more testing this cycle. AF will be here in the next couple of days I'd say.
My Zita West supps arrived a few days ago and I've been taking them religiously three times a day. Oh my goodness, my wee is bright green!I bet there's some sort of colouring agent in there just to make us think they must be super fantastic because our wee is green! I have run out of COq10 (which seems to be the latest one that fertility doctors are prescribing for over 40's) so I am patiently waiting for the next lot of super potent ubiquinol (supposed to be more easily absorbed by the body) to arrive.
Well, I have had quite a rollercoaster of a weekend. Yesterday I met up with my sister and learned that her family is going through a pretty intense time. After four years of having an affair with a married man, he has finally decided to leave his wife (though it hasn't actually happened yet) and so my sister has finally decided to leave her husband and kids properly (to date she's been living part-time with them), though it is no shock to them as they knew it was coming. However, to top it all off, her 16 year old son has revealed that he has been a girl trapped in a boy's body for years and wants to "come out" as a girl. What a blow for all of them. My poor darling nephew has been so unhappy for years apparently. And for all this to be happening whilst she is in the process of leaving. It's all so messy and heart-breaking. I just hope they can get some counselling for DN, not because they want to change his mind, just so they can all work through it. It is going to be such a hard road for DN to travel.
Just when you think every thing is crusing along nicely-ish, life can throw curve balls!
My afternoon was lovely though. I took DD to netball, and her team is 2nd on the ladder, she's very proud and excited about the upcoming finals. I swam 50 laps, which felt really good because I'd skipped a session last week.
Today is father's day over here, so I will shortly be cooking breakfast, then a big roast lunch for parents-in-law.
Happy Sunday everyone. Is anyone else coming up to the nasty am I/aren't I/should I test? time in their cycle? Now that I know it's all over for me, who needs cheering on??
Me, Hopeful. But I did test yesterday, then started spotting. Of course no flow today, so am currently resisting testing again. And all this with only dtd once last cycle, on CD 6. I am trying to take it in a relaxed way, but who am I kidding? I am going to relax when in menopause. But I am not doing the drugs anymore, I will let my body to decide whether it can or can not do this. On plus side, I have been spending the last few weeks alone with my 8 and 4 yo sons, which has made me wonder whether I am up to a baby at all;-)
Thank you, looking forward to hearing more of your stories. Gosh, your poor nephew and your poor sister, what a lot to deal with.
What an emotional time for your sister Gum, I hope your nephew gets the support he needs.
I am at the same stage as you. I had huge backache yesterday and then AF was most definitely in the building. I am counting it as starting then, I am pretty sure now that I am spotting before this point as there is a definite sudden change in flow. Previously I have been counting the heavy spotting as AF, but reading on here makes me think otherwise? This gives me a LP of 10 days. Hope I'm not manipulating the figures!
HorseyGirl sorry for your losses, wishing you lots of good luck with ttc.
It's been a while since I posted - trying to get my head straight after my MMC but I have been dipping in and out to check on how you have all been getting on. I struggled for a while but have dusted myself down.
jbrd I am so very sorry for your loss - I was totally gutted for you. How are you doing?
I have been so thrilled to read the fabulous news on the thread blossoming bumps - congratulations and you give us all hope . I await news of the arrival ofsparklyjunior with bated breath. Good luck!
Sorry to all those who have been having such a rough time.
I have only just got my period back after my ERPC in June. I had a transvaginal scan in late July which showed that my body had tried to ovulate once from my left ovary but this failed and turned into a functional cyst and then I had tried from my right ovary and this failed and also turned into a functional cyst. Great. So I was all ready to ovulate but the LH surge just didn't happen for some reason. Finally, I ovulated on CD67 (temping really is the business for tracking ovulation) and my period came 12 days after that (and a very nasty one it was too . Anyway, i am glad that i finally ovulated and my period came - feels like i can now move on. The irony of the scan is that it clearly showed that my right ovary was more than active and I had been told that my right ovary was small and inactive!!
So back to previous plan that DP and I have decided to go for IVF given our ages and we have spoken to the clinic about next steps. They are happy for us to start next cycle which is quicker that I thought but there is no reason to wait. They didn't even seem that concerned about my rubbish AMH (1.3) given my previous regular ovulation, good FSH tests and ability to conceive naturally (and the fact that we are paying for it So I am ladies, once more, back in the fray.... Will be giving it our all this month as well just in case we manage to conceive just before starting treatment again!
Ps. Welcome to all those who have joined whilst i have been away.
I am 44 TTC #1 with DP for about 12 months. Conceived naturally in April13 MMC at 10 weeks.2 Dsc's. Starting IVF October 2013.
Yay, greenlizard, so good to see you back! I've been thinking about you. Keeping everything crossed for you
Hi Greenlizard, It is so nice to hear from you. It is fabulous news that you will be starting IVF in October. That must make you feel you have something positive happening towards having a baby. I hope you won't need it and have a BFP this time, but at least you know that option is there.
Ogden, as far as I know with charting, spotting is never considered the start of AF. It is when there is a "flow",light,medium or heavy that it is considered AF. I am not really sure if your heavy spotting would be considered "light flow" or just spotting?
If you have an LP of 10 days, have you considered having your day 21 progesterone level checked? It is an easy blood test, which should be done 7 days post ovulation (rather than day 21, which is based on every doctor believing every woman ovulates on day 14). It will tell you if your progesterone is low (which will cause spotting and short luteal phase). I don't think 10 days is too short, but from what I have heard and read over the years, it is better if it is 12 or more. Having said that, many women have gotten pregnant with short LP's. Also Vitamin B complex is supposed to help too.
Sorry that AF found you. I am pretty sure she'll be knocking on my door today or tomorrow. I have the heavy feeling and sore lower back. Bugger! I still hoped to be surprised by a late BFP. Blah!
Nice to hear from you Jass. Have you tested again? I know, juggling the kids on your own isn't easy. I feel the same way when my DH is away, but I think if there was a baby too, we'd probably function just fine even with all the sleep deprivation
I have woken up feeling hot and puffy. My wedding ring which is usually very loose is tight and uncomfortable. I wonder if it is water retention because AF is coming? I don't usually notice this. But I also have a headache, so perhaps it is something else going on? Is this what perimenopause is like?
We had a lovely Father's day. The roast lamb at lunch was a big hit, PIL loved it. My FIL looks awful, with terrible puffy,red wounds from the operation on his face. He spent most of the afternoon sleeping. He starts radiation therapy in two weeks. Both he and MIL seem very pessimistic about the outlook, which I am struggling to understand because the cancer is not in anywhere else in his body, nor has the facial melanoma spread into the nerves or anything. I know they couldn't get all of it in the operation (hence the radiation therapy) but I am surprised at how negative they both are about his prognosis. Also, they are both very forgetful and muddled, so I am not sure they are getting everything straight that the doctor tells them.My DH has offered to go to the doctors with them, to take notes and remember everything for them, but they forget to tell DH about the appointments!
Fortunately the visit didn't leave my DH feeling depressed, he was still in a good mood after they left and we took a nice long walk on the beach with DS. Whilst there I remembered taking a long walk before we embarked on having DS - about 6 years ago, before my DH had his vasectomy reversal, and DH telling me he really didn't like the idea of another baby, but would do it for me. Seeing them together on the beach yesterday, playing and laughing made me so happy that we embarked on the journey despite his reservations.
Today DS and I are going swimming. DS just loves it, I can only get him out of the pool with chocolate Terrible parenting, I know, but it works!
How are you feeling Diege? Drop in and tell us all about your holiday.
Have a lovely Monday,everyone. And have one of these for me. It is fast day again....
Hi greenlizard, how nice to hear from you, I have been thinking of you.
Looks like it'll be induction in the morning, so hoping it won't be too long and drawn out like last time. I'll update when I can, and thank you all for your support over the last few months, it's been invaluable.
sparkly Good luck for today, will be checking for news of arrival of sparkly baby!
green Hello! Glad to hear from you again, I've been wondering how you are. And it sounds as if you have a plan to go forward, that is so great. Fingers crossed and good luck for your journey to the IVF shores
Welcome horsey! Sorry to hear about your losses, what an ordeal you have been through. Fingers crossed it'll be smooth sailing this time.
First day back at work after 2 weeks off for me today - and I'm struggling more than expected. Feeling very emotional, not sure why - I was fine all weekend. We had a lovely day out at a maze and children's activity area yesterday, it was great fun (apart from DS being stung by a wasp). But today I'm tired and worn out. Wondering if there are still residual hormones hanging around in my body... Planning to test later this week. The EPU said to get in touch as soon as I get a BFN again, so that they can initiate the next steps for the tests.
My lovely childminder, who is also a good friend, wrote to me on Friday, saying that she's pregnant. From the sounds of it, we would have been due within weeks of each other. I found that a really hard blow, probably due to the timing. Of course, I wrote back all smiles and congratulations, but I was actually crying when I hit 'Send'. I really do want a break from everyone announcing being pg or havin babies around me, but that would mean to cut myself off from everything, so not really an option
Sorry for not name-checking more, will catch properly with everyone else later!
JBrd, sorry for the coincidence with the childminder's pregnancy. It an be really hard. And about hormones - mine are so totally messed up that I am now borderline anxiety syndrome, I think. Very nervous about trivial things and tears over everything. I think it must be hormones - I used to be quite calm. Hope yours will settle soon and you get some simple answer for your losses. Simple answers exist and hopefully your will get one of these. Unexplained is he worst place to be
Hello! Finally surfacing from holiday washing/back at work stuff and can post. Jbrd that does sound hard - I can't even start to understand how you must be feeling with all that has gone on/is going on. As jass says, I really hope that there's a relatively simple reason for your mcs and that you have some supportive medical people that can help x
Welcome to the newbies, and welcome back to some familiar names from the past - good to catch up and see how things are going - there's a lot going on here at the moment!
Gum phew sounds quite eventful with your sister and her family. How are they handling the gender thing with ds? I ask because I run some sessions with adults who have been through the same thing as teenagers and come and tell our (social work) students about their experiences. Seems that how the 'coming out' is received (long term) has big effects on subsequent adjustments etc. Hopefully everyone can work through it positively together. On the supplements front, I remember the green wee too I too was reassured that it meant they were 'doing something' though my gp spoilt it somewhat by saying wee colours like that when body doesn't always need the dosage . Still, I took them until I became to poor to continue and did actually conceive 3 mths after starting them.
Sparkly I too am awaiting your birth announcement - I will sound a snug fanfare for you a la kate middleton when we get the news!
I know I have missed out loads but I am absolutely whacked and there seems to have been so many things going on. I am still getting over the 'holiday' tbh, which was fun but very full-on and rested is not something I'm feeling...Still, back at work this week so should at least get some sort of rest then. Schools back Wednesday, with ds1 (4) starting reception - bloody staggered starts/odd finish times a nightmare - ending up having to take a good chunk of annual leave just to get him sorted. Still, just 4 weeks until maternity leave kicks in (33 tomorrow).
Love to all xxx
Oh my goodness, Diege, you're 33 weeks? How on earth did that happen so fast??? I hope you do get a chance to rest soon. You really should get some rest before number 6 arrives. As for the staggered times etc for DS(1), I totally sympathise. It is so hard to juggle it all isn't it?
When my DS started Kindy this year (is "kindergarten (for 4 year olds) the same as reception in the UK? Or is reception the year they turn 5, which we call Pre-primary?) I had an awful time juggling his needs and my job. We got him onto the little local school bus very quickly, which means I can drop him with the bus driver at 8 am, and get myself to work on time. As it was, I wasn't supposed to leave him at Kindy til 8:45, and yet that's when my own classes started, 10 minutes away from his school. The stuff of nightmares!!
Jbrd, my heart goes out to you. Gosh, how bloody difficult to have your child-miner having a baby around when you would have. It really does hurt. I know exactly how you feel. After my second miscarriage I just wanted to stay away from everyone, I couldn't bear to hear about everyone else happy news, whether it was their second cousin twice removed or someone I knew personally, it just felt like everyone could have a baby, but not me. I know right now it is still very raw for you, but please be reassured that time will make a difference. I am amazed that I was able to sit at dinner with 39 weeks pregnant friend of a friend and not feel sad for myself or extremely jealous. I was happy for her, and hopeful for me.
As for the hormones, mine took a reasonable length of time to settle. After the second miscarriage (which was around 9 weeks) it took about 67 days before I ovulated again, and in the meantime my hormones where all over the place. Be gentle on yourself
Looking forward to Sparkly's news.
Hi Gum . Reception here is basically first year of full-time school so starts at age 4. They are also doing staggered 'finishes' at dd3's junior school so her year are coming out earlier for a week. Great in principle but if you have a child at primary and junior (7-11 here) you can't make it in time, which sort of defeats the whole rationale behind making things easier for the
teachers children. Have decided nothing quite beats the convenience of nursery hrs 8-6 Sounds like things are similar in Australia re: working parents too - agree, not great for stress levels!
Hope things are progressing/baby sparkly is here!
Off to do morning baths today to get them out of the way for the dcs - why did I leave all the homework/bag packing/lost PE kit stresses until today? On a gross note (and thankfully not typical) dd2 has opened her school bag and found some maggots in there . Just what I need to be greeted with!
Crikey its been busy on here...I have a lot of catching up to do.
First of all welcome to all the newbies.
Good luck to those awaiting their due dates.
Jbrd you have had such a tough year, do take care of yourself.
Gum I feel so much of what you write..you express that pull between your rational and hoping mind so very well.
I'm sorry for not namechecking everybody, I have a fair amount of catching up to do.
As for me...well I am now resident in NIreland, and very lovely it is too.
As far as ttc is concerned I had solid smiley on CB dual sticks 3 weeks ago(which I have to say I thought was odd as no other signs of ovulation. Anyway, 3 days later I tried another stick out of curiosity and still got a smiley (for those who dont know, once you get a solid smiley with these sticks it stays solid for 2 whole days so you cant keep testing). Anyway I was rewarded with high temps following this for about a week then back to pre ov temps. I have mildly tender breasts (which I only get before af is due) but its been nearly 3 weeks since I supposedly ovulated. Of course all BFN. Raaaa. I guess af will arrive in her own sweet time.
DH seems to be very nonchalant about the whole thing. He has gone from being very for intervention to "lets just have sex and if it happens it happens" attitude. Hmmmmmm. I suspect he wants to take the pressure off me, however I'm not quite sure he "gets" the time factor involved.
My consultants appointment back in England has been deferred from September to November. I have 2 cycles worth of clomid left...then I may be reduced to getting it online. It seems to be the only thing that makes me ovulate and in the absence of DH's support for intervention of any other kind (actually any kind which costs money!!)it may be my only chance.
I love where I have moved to...I have a beautiful beach minutes from my back door and beautiful scenery surrounding me. I do find living on camp however is very geared up to young families with children.
I hope to be able to drop in a little more often from now on so I must have a good read and catch up xx
By now your little one should have arrived Sparkly! Hope everything went well,as gum says ,looking forward to hearing your news!
gum it sounds like you're having a tough time with so much going on with your family, I hope your DN gets through this difficult period of change and your sister finds some happiness too. Your DH must find it traumatic with his Dad being ill, at least they all have you supporting them!
Nice to see you back Green ,I've been wondering how you were. It is good having the ivf to aim for, hopefully though you'll find you don't need it.
Welcome back from your holiday Diege . It is hectic getting everyone back to school, especially when they start reception with a week of mornings/week of afternoon before they start properly! How does your DS feel about starting school?Are his big sisters at the same school?
Hope everything is progressing with the fostering application Willitbe!
Welcome to all the new people!(Sorry not to namecheck everyone).
How was your first day back at work JBrd ? It's such a difficult,emotional time. I'm glad you didn't need a hospital stay though and that you can soon have some investigations.I found the tiredness and emotional slumps came and went for quite a few weeks after each miscarriage, don't expect too much of yourself xx
I know how difficult it is hearing of other pregnancies too and I debated about whether I should start posting again so I really hope you don't think I'm being insensitive but I wanted to share with all of you that I'm about 6 weeks pregnant. I know we were supposed to be giving up ttc, I've not been charting and have tried to switch off from it all and focus on all the positives in my life but we obviously were a bit lax with contraception! DH has been brilliant, he's very calm and says maybe this is our time to have a little miracle. I know my chances of miscarrying are very high. DH says if the worst happens, we've been through it before and will cope again,what will be will be, so we're trying not to think too far ahead and take it a day at a time(who am I kidding, I'm a nervous wreck, analysing every twinge !) I have a scan at the EPU next Monday when I should be just over 7 weeks so I'm just hoping and praying this little bean makes it.
Hi CaliBee,crossed posts! Glad the move to NI went well and you're enjoying the time with DH.
Hello! I'm a newbie. Great to meet so many amazing over 40's. Good luck to you all - loads of it. Am 41 and ttc number 2. DS took more than a year. He is gorgeous and our lives have been soo changed. I'm 41 1/2 and hoping to get lucky again. Hoping not to get my knickers in such a twist as last time too!! Have not started charting again just using clearblue monitor and trying to dtd aplenty. Bye for now
Welcome always, you've come to the right place!
calibee NI and the beach at your doorstep sounds gorgeous. Are you actually in forces property? My sister was for years and found both pluses and minuses, though located in not half as nice a place as you. It must be good to be settled at last, and with dh 'at hand' so to speak. Hopefully your Nov appointment can shed more light on whether you need further intervention x
Irish wow I am so pleased for you . I know it is such a rocky road you're on, but this IS good news and it sounds like dh is also being very supportive. I really really hope your scan next week is good news and you can start to believe all will be well xx Re: ds and school, he does seem very young in my eyes to start - he can't even wipe his own bottom yet and I just can't see how he will be able to get changed for PE/queue up for dinner etc etc. Dds are in other schools (they split primary here across 2 sites) but he has his best friend in the same class which will help a lot.
Need to 'label' school uniforms now. With dd1 it was preordered M&S embroidered sew on labels, with dd 2 iron on 'write your own name' ones, dd3 had laundry pen to write on back of clothes' label, and poor ds1 is awaiting the finding of a biro that works to scrawl initials on .
Sorry not to have been around for a while, I have been travelling a bit with little signal. Having a bad day today, very tearful. Due at work in half an hour but don't want to go.
Have my pre-op for my lap n dye in 2 days and I think that has triggered sadness etc. feel like I want to hibernate.
I started a thread, don't know what to tell my employer. Don't really want to ring my manager wailing, but don't know how to explain my odd behaviour either :-(
Haven't caught up yet, hope everyone is ok.
Irish, that is such good news! I am sending sticky, THB vibes your wayIt is not insensitive to tell us your good news, we all need to hear the good news, it is so important.
Calibee, it is great to hear you are settled in N.I. It sounds lovely. I am also sending preggy vibes to you. I'd love for you and your lovely DH to have a baby together. I think using the clomid is a good idea. Can you see a Doctor in NI to get a script?
Hello, alwaysontop, this is a wonderful group of supportive ladies to hang out with whilst waiting for a bfp and analysing the whole process!
Tigerseye, I am sorry things are tough for you right now. I think telling your manager that you need "compassionate leave" but don't want to discuss details should be enough.
Well, strange things happening here. I am 13 dpo and usually have AF by now, but sometimes I do have a 13 or rarely a 14 day LP. But weirdly, this morning I had spotting, but not the usual brown, it was proper red blood. I thought it must be the start of AF, but there was nothing, at all, for the rest of today, and still nothing. I also have had a funny taste in my mouth, but my breast tenderness is gone, and I am just having a a few funny twinges instead. My temperature has dropped a bit, but isn't below cover line. I didn't bother testing yesterday or today as I thought for sure it was all over.
I hate to say it, I feel a bit hopeful. I guess if RTD (AF) isn't here in the morning, I will test again, but it does seem quite late to get a bfp, and I worry that would mean a late implanter and not a good chance of a THB. I guess I shouldn't get ahead of myself should I?
Thanks Hopeful, and fingers crossed for you!!! Never say never!!!
I have taken a half day off and made myself eggy bread in the hope that I can achieve the same fertility as my chickens!!!
Irish That is wonderful news! Sending lots of sticky vibes your way, fingers crossed for your scan! So so happy and please for you Please don't think you're insensitive, on the contrary, happy news needs to be shared. And if not here, where then?!
tiger Could you email your manager? I did that when I had my recent mc, to let her know what was going on. I specifically stated that I needed to let her know by email because I would not be able to talk about it in person right now, and she was completely understanding and so helpful. I know that you're not obliged to tell work about your situation, but I found that it really helps if at least the manager knows.
cali Your new home location sounds idyllic! I'd love to have a beach close to my house... How are you settling in, will it be easy to meet people?
Your DH sounds a bit like mine, i.e. leaving all the ttc 'knowledge' to me and letting me 'steer'... I think that next time, I'll try and spread the responsibility a bit, I find it very lonely to be the one in charge.
I tested last night, and 11 days after my mc, I had a BFN. At least everthing appears to go back to normal fairly quickly! Now I need to call the EPU to get the ball rolling for all the tests and investigations. Fingers crossed that it won't take too long (but it's the NHS we're talking about, so I don't hold out much hope there...)
Irish - wow, I am so pleased for you. I will be sending lots of positive vibes your way. Waiting to see about my smear - doc running v late. I can't really reply in detail so hello to all those I know and welcome to those I don't.
JBrd that's what I did, I couldn't trust myself not to cry on the phone. I think it's pmt, coupled with stress plus hospital plus talking to a very pregnant friend. Just too much.
He politely replied back 'ok thanks'. Man of few words!
I'm seeing patients this evening and am feeling a bit better.
Hope your body is 'back to normal' now and you can find a way forward.
Good morning ladies.
No good news here I am afraid - no AF, but another BFN. I console myself that it can take 3-4 days post implantation to get a bfp, so maybe that's what's going on. I still have funny tingles and aches in my boobs(but not the usual tenderness).And my temperature, though not below cover-line, isn't very high.
My realistic self says that AF is just around the corner, be patient and stop being hopeful.
And my pessimistic self says - that spot of blood was your AF (gasp ), you are old and menopausal and you should just pack it all in.
So, yeah, I am taking the relaxed approach to ttc
Is there such a thing? Maybe if you are comatose....
P.S. FOR GOD"S SAKE UNIVERSE, just give me my long awaited for bfp and THB!!!
Arghh Gum I feel your frustration! Putting my sensible head on the spot of blood is NOT your af and yes, a bfp wuld take at least 24-36 hrs to appear after implantation spotting. It may well be a wtf cycle, but I appreciate the 'not knowing' is awful .
I must rush as first day back at school and don't want ds to be late on his first day!
Well, the universe just gave me a big fat raspberry, and AF has shown up this afternoon. So it was just a 13 day lp. Not really a big difference to normal. However I was very silly to get my hopes up. So, yes Diege, a WTF cycle. Bugger!
Today has been a full-on busy day and I am tired and cranky. Unfortunately it meant that I was a little curt with a colleague who has been extremely annoying for some time now, and it was the final straw today. I have a feeling she will stay out of my way from now on. I know I will certainly avoid her!
I just barely had a moment to breathe today. Now I have to take DD back into town (another 40 mins in the car) for netball training. I usually swim, but tonight I am dropping her and coming home (DH will pick up), I am shattered and I am going to listen to my body and rest.
I feel a bit sad, but I know that it will lift in a day or two. I will try again this month. My DH is scheduled to be away again during my fertile time (FFS!) so I am going to suggest that DS and I tag along for fun and that we stay in a nice hotel. He'll be worried about the dollars, but I feel we could use a weekend away and I really don't want to miss another chance.
So sorry for the self-indulgent post. It's that awful time of my cycle where I feel exhausted and not exactly enthused about trying again.
Love to all. I hope Sparklybaby is doing well.
Hi all, DD2 arrived somewhat more speedily than expected after induction whem nothing happened for hours, then 2.5 hour labour, early hours of Tuesday morning.Shes feeding & sleeping well, DD1 has really taken 2 her little sis, Im ok, & DH seems to be accepting her. I'll update when I can, thsnks for all your good wishes.
Welcome to the world, beautiful tiny sapphire! Your mummy really is a wonderful, determined lady! Big congratulations to you all, sparkly. Delighted DD is enjoying being a big sister. My very best wishes that everything now falls into place for you and your family. xx
Welcome, baby sapphire! And well done, sparkly, hope you're recovering well and getting plenty of rest! All the best xxx
Many congratulations sparkly, I'm delighted for you Can't wait for full update and a picky if possible!
Sorry about af gum . Bad enough when it happens without the 'teasing' you got this time... On the plus side, you have very good LPs - don't think mine has been more than 10/11 days (with agnus castus help) for years!
Off to have a filling at the dentists now <scared> Will also have ds1 with me so will have to (wo)man up and try and keep cool...
Congratulations sparklysapphire and a big welcome to the world to your precious little jewel ! xxx
Thank you everyone for your good wishes for me, your support means a lot!
gum what a frustrating cycle, I've had several too over the last year with a day of spotting,a gap and then AF starts. When you're working so hard and then being "Mum's taxi" too it's no wonder you feel frazzled. A few nights away in a good hotel sounds ideal,hope you can manage to sort that out!
Diege hope the dental appointment wasn't too terrible!
Congrats baby sapphire!!!! You are here with us!!!
Sorry about af gum!!! Life is a b***h sometimes!!!
Congratulations Irish.... Please do tell us when news are as good as yours!!!
Cali I m very happy for you settling in NI.
Jbrd thinking of you!!!!
Diege I am right behind you
Dh and ds back to school. I was very annoyed that a PE shirt and a PE top cost £39!!!! Incredible really
To everyone else I didn't mention by name I send a big hug!!!!
Welcome to the world little Sapphire I have a little lump in my throat as I type this. I am so happy for you
Thanks to everyone for the commiserations. Sorry to be a whiney Wendy. This journey has been long and arduous and it feels like I will never reach the place I wanted to go to. I might end up at a different destination and I find that very frustrating.
Actually, Diege, I wonder too, if the longer LP and also a heavier AF is a good thing. I hope it means that my uterus etc is in good shape and that may mean that I have a better chance at a baby.
I honestly believe there was damage done with the second ERPC. I didn't have proper periods for ages, then when they came back they were shorter than ever, and very light. These days the flow is a lot better. Perhaps it has taken a long time to heal? I will probably never know. With the last BFP, that ended very early (6 weeks), I had an ultrasound but nothing was mentioned about damage, but who knows if they can see that sort of thing, and it was in a Dr's office, so not the best high resolution machine.
I have been up with DS from 5:30 and working my butt off before I even start my usual routine. I have parents night at work tonight (as a teacher, not a parent), so I have to be back at work from 5-7pm. So I have been busy cooking the DC's dinner and prepping for mine and DH's dinner (we are fasting today and can't eat the kid's super cheesey pasta bake (yum)). I am also going away for the weekend straight after work (my knitting club weekend away) so need to organise stuff for that.
I will need a rest this weekend!
Gum it sounds manic at the moment for you! Thought the knitters' weekend sound blissful . What sort of things will you be doing? (not much knitting I presume? ))
A close friend has just had a 9 week scan where baby is measuring 6 weeks, no heartbeat yet, and she has also started spotting. That's not good is it? (she's sure of her dates). She's having to wait a week before going back as they won't 'do' anything just yet. Brings back memories of my mcs, really feel for her, and makes me appreciate what I have far more!
Hope everyone is ok - early night for me as woke at 2.30am last night and was still awake until 6ish...combination of ds2, dh's snoring and generally insomnia!
Sparkly, huge congratulations!
Gum, sorry the af got you.
Mine is getting ready to leave and I am trying to find my motivation to do OV tests soon. Cd 5 here, so still room to get more enthusiastic about it ....sigh.
Lots of hugs to sparkly baby!
already had some meetings at school, but actually starting to teach on monday .. I am just a little bit worried..Please wish me good luck (taking good luck for TTC as already included in the wish!)
Yes, Diege, a bit manic. Fortunately for me I have such a lot of support from my older children. They are such lovely,lovely kids (people). My DS (who lasted only a week in the city at Uni,and returned home because he missed the country and home so much) is living with us and part of the deal is that he tidies up everyday, takes care of the breakfast dishes, cooks twice a week and has to put laundry on twice a week. It really helps. He's also available for a fair amount of babysitting. He has a motorbike license, but not a car license (we're hoping he will get it on Tuesday), so I am looking forward to when he can also run the other kids around. My daughters are such capable girls, always willing to help with DS(5).
So, although I do have a lot of juggling (who doesn't?) I have help too.
Parent's night went well. But it is time consuming and meant that my brain didn't wind down til about midnight. Then I had a horrible night's sleep - cramps and backache (AF? I don't usually have it). So I got up at 5 am after being awake for ages, a hot water bottle, heat patch and ibuprofen seem to have banished the cramps and backache. The bummer is I will be quite tired for my first night away and will probably have to go to bed early!
We do actually knit on our weekend away, but there's also loads of chatting, laughing,eating,drinking and even a bit of shopping. The destination is only about 30 minutes drive from town, so not too far. It is a lovely seaside village, so we may do some walking too. It will be nice to just get away from all the rushing and demands of family life.
It looks like I might only have DH away for one night (during fertile time), as there's been a couple of invitations that weekend. He said he may even change his appointment in the big city, which means I won't have to tag along and we should get plenty of SWI,hopefully. I have armed myself with some opks.
I recently read a book called The impatient women's guide to getting pregnant. I bought it after someone on here linked an article the author wrote. The book didn't tell me anything new, and wasn't particular positive about women over 41, but she did say a lot about how important timing is, and that the percentage of women getting pregnant when using opks and/or a fertility monitor is much higher than the estimates we hear in the media, particularly for the 35-39 age group. She explains how many of the stats are just not relevant.
Anyway, it has helped me realise just how important timing is and that's why I am back to using opk's (you may recall I sold all that sort of stuff on Ebay in the hope that I'd be more relaxed about ttc, and might even give up the idea. Alas, that tactic certainly didn't work.) Now I wish I had a fertility monitor again, but I just can't buy a fourth one, that would be silly, wouldn't it???
Right, I'd best go and get packed up. Have a lovely Friday everyone and a good weekend. I may check in on my phone while I am away
Hi ladies. Do you mind if I join you?. I have been reading all the comments on here, & see your all lovely ladies. Me n hubby have been ttc for around 3 years. I have had 4 rounds of Clomid, but I've stopped it & this cycle haven't took it. It''s quite a relief in a way & I'm that way now where I'm thinking if I get my bfp then that would be amazing, but I'm feeling more relaxed about it. Even tho I still feel so down for a couple of days when af gets me. Sending lots of baby dust . X
irish congratulations - wonderful news!
Hope you're doing ok, jbrd?
calibee, you settling in to your new life? Hope you'll be very happy in NI with your lovely DH.
gum hope you enjoy your knitting weekend, sounds great.
And to spread a bit of hope before I go - there's a lady on the pregnancy boards who's just pg (they weren't even ttc, I don't think) at almost 49
Have a lovely weekend everyone.
Welcome mazzie - this is a nice, supportive place to be, hope you feel at home here.
Hi morien and hi and welcome to mazzie
Gum I have to say your musing about fertility monitors and whether to buy another one made me smile. I am the same with breast pumps . I think using opks is a sensible compromise as even though you are relaxed, there's no harm whatsoever in giving yourself the best chances. I do realise there is a fine line there though between 'best chance' and all out fertility maximisation ....
I am fine but really suffering with piles . I have also decided that today is the day that ds2 finally gets to move in to ds1's bedroom. I can't believe we've left it so long tbh (ds 2 is 22 mths) but we now need to put up another cot for dc6....I know it will be hell, but if we leave it any longer I'll be back from the hospital with the new baby and poor ds2 turfed out of our room!
Love to all - rain and more rain here!
Hi girls. Back from my knitting weekend, which was fab, but even after relaxing all weekend I feel tired. Different bed, didn't sleep all that well.But it was nice to have hours sitting by the fire, knitting with lovely friends while it rained outside. Also loads of yummy food and good conversation.
Af was a bit of a fizzer: not much blood (sorry if TMI). It worries me, menopause must be around the corner, but I'll still keep trying. I am hoping the Zita West sups might help.
Diege, sorry about the piles. That must be awful. I hope DS2 is settling into DS1's room. I can understand the desire to get that sorted before the baby arrives.
Well, feeling pretty knackered, so I think I might go and vege in front of the telly for a little while.
I'll be back in the morning with a lot more energy!
Welcome Mazzie !
Glad you had a good weekend gum ,it's great to have such a supportive family to keep things going at home so you can have a bit of time to yourself and relax! Your kids sound wonderful. Does your DS feel confident about his driving test tomorrow? Good luck to him!
Diege, poor you, piles must be so uncomfortable, you must be counting the weeks down. How did the room move go for DS2?
Thanks for the good wishes Morien and notsoold !
I've been to the EPU for my scan today and saw a little heartbeat, baby measuring 7 weeks and everything looks normal. It's a big relief but I know it's still early days, I've had a similar with MC3,a good scan at 7 weeks, growth and strong heart beat on a later scan and it died at about 9 weeks. I'm being rescanned in 2 weeks . We're trying to be realistic, and are also waiting as long as possible to tell most people, but I can't help hoping and praying this little one will make it!
Congratulations on your little one, Sparkly!
AF caught up with me too, so this is my last one before my lap n dye in 3 weeks time. Feel stupidly sad that a miracle didn't happen and I fell pregnant thus not needing the op!
My endo is really playing up and the surgeon is going to laser it as well as do the lap so hopefully periods will be less painful in future.
I'm glad it's not the first day of school for anyone this week, all those facebook pix last week nearly sent me over the edge!!!
irish this is good news! I keep everything crossed for you little bean..
gum I had my first day at school and am quite knackered, I had three classes one of which was a nightmare..7-8 naughty students didn't stop to speak, laugh and make noise.. I'm quite glad I didn't lose my temper, but I still have to find a way to deal with them .....SUGGESTIONS?
so if I ever got pregnant, there would be an added value of a maternity leave..!
tiger af are obviously coming as we didn't DTd on the right days, but I was still hopeful in a super-everlasting swimmer..so I get what you felt with your af coming..wishing you a successful op!
diege I read on the chat about your colleague pg with triplets at 48 ..wow! I hope everything is going fine..it must be a little scary..
Mozza, I am not surprised that you feel knackered after a first day teaching. It is a job that requires a great deal of mental and emotional energy.
As for those naughty kids - ask them to stop (obvious, I know) or you will move them away from their friends. Then give them other consequences for their behaviour. Here's a list of what I do: Give them a "bump" (tell them they are behaving badly and the next step will be to move), move them away from friends, giving detention during break or lunch time or after school,phoning their parents, sending them to another class to work (we have a roster so lower school students go to upper school classes and vice versa). I also reward the kids who do the right thing: praise, sitting next to their friends,"goldie" letters home. The important thing is to break up any groups of students who are making the most trouble. That can be hard with 7-8 naughty kids, but try and separate them, and move the worst ones out if you can. I hope that helps. Unfortunately, I have found, teaching is about 7 parts behaviour management and 3 parts teaching and learning.
Irish, I am so, so pleased for you (and also , in the nicest possible way ). Just remember the snug mantra, "for today I am pregnant".
Tigerseye, I have heard that a lap and dye can be the little miracle boost for getting pregnant, I hope it helps you, and I am sure having less pain with your AF will be good.
I have to go and have a look in chat about the lady pregnant with triplets at 48. Wow . Are they ivf babies? I will go and look...
Triplets at 48???? I'm not sure I'd have the energy!!!
Lovely news, Irish keeping everything crossed for you!
Thanks for the good wishes and support mozza, gum and JBrd ,it means a lot, especially when hardly anyone knows in real life. I've told my mum and boss but that's about everyone, apart from staff at the EPU. The lovely midwife who dealt with me a lot last year was the one who answered the phone when I rang up,I didn't even give my name,just said I was phoning to see if I could book an early scan and she immediately said "Is that you Irish ?" .It makes you feel they really care about their patients if they remember them(though I suppose I have been there a lot!).
I haven't even been to the GP yet but have now booked an appointment for later this week.I found it distressing last times getting routine appointments through the post for midwife appointments etc after miscarrying so thought I'd wait till at least after the scan but I'd better not leave it too long either.
Mozza that sounds like a tough first day,how old are your pupils? I'm not a teacher but gum's advice sounds good. I know my DD2(14) found the girls she sat with in one class last year were disruptive and stopping her from working but she couldn't ask to move herself because she'd lose face and look like a swot! She was being labelled as part of that group by the teacher. She would have been happy if the teacher moved them so it wasn't down to her IYSWIM. Maybe the group will be less naughty split up,some of them might actually want to work?
Sorry about AF Tiger but the lap and dye procedure may help,I have heard too that it enhances the chance of conception directly after one.
Hello! Really lovely news Irish I am so pleased for you. I know you are still worried, but everything is looking as it should at this stage, couldn't look any better. Is your next scan in a few weeks?
Gum that's brilliant advice re: pupils' behaviour. I have had to deal with the same myself in the past, but the students I deal with these days are usually 'mature' and while they natter a bit are easier to deal with! Good luck mozz - everyone in teaching has 'been there'.
Oh and the colleague at work, yes...she has 6 grown up children so this was a massive shock. Natural conception too, and by all accounts literally a one hit wonder...her husband is not taking it well at all Everything looks good so far pregnancy-wise so it's just a case of mentally adjusting I suppose!
34 weeks today - back at work but only 2 weeks after this then on leave..Have placenta scan on Thursday so will see if it has 'moved up' and what that means (or not) for delivery plans. Bit nervous!
Hope all are well - think notsoold is about the same weeks-wise as me?
Irish....such good news and I am particularly pleased about the good treatment at the EPU.
Diege... Same weeks as you!!!
I am still here
Ds has been poorly with his beginnings of year cold ( every first week he get a bad cold with fever etc)
Our dog seems to have turned a corner and is better again. As DH does not deals with the dogbeing poorly it was mainly me take her to the vet!!! Ohhh stress
Hello jbrd and gum hope you are well...xxx
Good morning all.
Such lovely news irish...it must be an anxious time for you however. So lovely that the epu nurse remembered you.
I'm back to using my phone....the internet here is dreadful (i still have overhead wires supplying my house). It took four attempts for BT to deliver my hub!!! They sent two to an address I lived in nearly 2 years ago....I so hate incompetence especially from big companies who make huge profits.
I'm still awaiting af after having to end anovulatory cycle with provera. Its strange that with the synthetic progesterone in my body that i have sore boobies (something I always used to get pre miscarriage but not since). I had my first appointmwnt with my new Dr on Monday who wants to redo all the initial bloodtests before referring me to fertility services NIreland but has advised keeping my November appointment back in England. I admit to losing belief that this much wanted baby is ever going to happen for us . I really should see if the English clinic will send my/our results to me.
My lovely dd2 is coming to visit me next week...i cannot wait. Missing my dc's soooo very much. I also have a job interview next week....in a prison eeek. Initially i was excited however on reflection its a band lower than my previous job which would, in time , mean losing accreditations in two of my extra qualifications through non practice. That aside its also an hours journey away on pretty poor roads. The last thing I want is to end up in the nightmare of stress and anxiety I have just left behind in my previous job. I almost fancy a complete change of direction and have taken the plunge and ordered myself a course in nail enhancements. I just feel ready to make complete changes in my life. I figured that I may have business on camp (army) and could pick and choose when Iwant to work.
Feel free to tell me I'm bonkers ladies.
So the nights are drawing in, its getting colder and xfactor is back on tv (I confess to only watching to giggle at the awful ones)....it all seems to be happening on a revolving repetitve roundabout. Cant help but feel time is running out for me and ttc. I'm 43...I wonder how long I can really let this be such a big factor in my life?
Hi Everyone, Congratulations Sparkly and thats good news to hear irish.
Not posted for a while, you may remember I was bleeding for what seemed to be forever. Blood tests came back normal. I am now on cd60 and waiting for af to come back. One minute I was wishing it would stop, the next I'm wishing it will come back. Any advice, anyone?
Calibee I have just enrolled on a Business Administration Course, something I have no idea about. I think your nail enhancements sound great. I have just turned 43 too and feeling like you.
We are off to Ireland for a weeks break, sounds great but we are taking my parents so things could get quite strained. Altogether there will be 9 of us to occupy, entertain and please!
Sorry I havent name checked everyone, I'm still lurking! xx
mumalah hello...yes I do remember you. Have you seen gp re bleeding.?
I seemed to spend a couple of years where I bled at the drop of a hat but now like you wishing it would all start so that I can take my clomid.
I was give oral progesterone (Provera) to kick start af on anovulatory cycles...maybe you could ask your GP about it
Where abouts in Ireland are you off to??
Hello Calibee and Mumalah. It is good to hear from you. I still think 43 is young, but that's because I am so much older. I do understand how you feel - wondering if it will happen, where to go from here. Cali, I think keeping your November appointment in England is a good idea, who knows how long you will have to wait for an appointment in NI? What kind of treatment do you want to do with the clinic? Have you and DH talked about how much you are willing to do? IVF? I know you'd just love to fall pregnant naturally and not have to bother with all of that, I just wondered what's the next step.
Mumalah, sorry I can't recall if you have taken clomid? It sounds like you might need a kick start to ovulate? Are you open to fertility treatment? I think if you were to take a course of provera to start AF, then the clomid, and have ultrasound to track ovulation, you could then time sex for when the egg is about to arrive.
Of course I say all this not really knowing what you want to do. I can't do any of it, mainly because my DH isn't on board at all for anything but an "opps! Looks like we are fertile after all" type of pregnancy. I still hold out hope that I will be one of the lucky ladies who get pregnant when they are on the wrong side of 45. I keep hearing good news stories, but I also know it can't happen for everyone over 45. I have a friend with a proven fertility record - 6 children. Her last at 42. Since then she has been open to another (but I honestly don't know if she bothers with anything like opks, temping etc, I don't think she does), and she is now 50, but hasn't had another baby. She has had three miscarriages in the last 6 years though. So although I have a great fertility record, had my last at 41, and I am timing SWI etc,etc, it doesn't mean I will get my THB. I just have to keep at it in case I really do have one more golden egg. And who knows, maybe I have two or three? Triplets at 48 GASP! I don't know how happy I'd be? I think I would really struggle.
Cali, I think your idea of changing career is a good one. Why not? And nail enhancements would be a great little earner when you have a baby too (positive thinking here, when, not if).
We have had a change of government in Australia, and the cutbacks to education are staggering and frightening, so now would be a great time for me to have a baby and go on leave. The only decent thing the government want to do is give women 6 months paid maternity leave (it is much, much less at the moment). So perhaps the universe has been kind enough to hold off on my pregnancy and THB so that I could have the paid leave?
The cut backs are really going to affect our conditions at work and I often think about changing jobs, but I have no idea what else I'd do, and I actually really do enjoy my job. But I think teachers will be under more pressure with the cutbacks and I won't enjoy it as much. I am already considering private school for my DS as I worry about how good government schools will be with less money going into them compared to the private schools.
Anyway, if I could just have one last baby, I could take my paid leave and think about changing career and maybe even retrain (though I had thought I might do that with the last baby and found I had no time or energy for re-training or study).
Ok, better get organised for work. I have a Health Ed lesson first up and no lesson plan, best get organised!
Hello! Yes I did see Gp re bleeding but she just told me to have blood test which was supposed to be day 3 on day 23! Says results would be the same to check fsh levels(I'm not convinced) Results were given as normal, no further action needed (that doesn't tell me what the levels are).
I Had 6 rounds of clomid, I started ovulating on the 3rd cycle, and have been charting ever since which each month until now a clear temperature shift suggesting ovulation. I have read that Vitex can help with hormone imbalances, does anyone have experience of this? I have been discharged from the hospital for fertility treatment due to a blood test i had that suggested my fsh levels were high (i have since researched that Clomid can cause higher fsh results) I did have something to bring on af on round 2 of clomid, it was called Northisterone, perhaps I should ask for that.
Calibee I'm off to Courtown near County Wexford, going by boat so its going to be a long journey. I used to holiday there as a child, as I have relatives dotted all over Ireland. I've been told its a lot more expensive over there, have you found this ?
Well today I am packing, well supposed to be! Typical I've left it all to the last minute, with tons of washing to do, and its pouring of rain.
Hopeful Do you think that acupuncture would be of any benefit to me?
mumalah, yes, I think acupuncture could be of benefit. If nothing else it will balance your body and is great for relaxation. I think that since having acupuncture regularly I get sick less often than I used to. Also, I am 46 and still regularly ovulating and having AF. I don't know if acupuncture makes any difference, but I think it may help. It is certainly worth a few months trial.
Diege is a bit of a vitex expert, hopefully she'll come and tell you all about it. I have used it here and there, but I don't think I really need it.
I have just come in after a big swim (60 laps). I don't know that it was a good idea as it's a fast day and I haven't eaten much today and felt a bit wobbly afterwards. Might swim fewer laps on fast days I had to go to the bottle shop (that's where we buy alcohol in Australia, it isn't sold in supermarkets) and pick up a carton of beer for DH's work department, and I was a bit vague and left my wallet in the trolley whilst wandering around the cool room searching for the type of beer he wanted. I was very lucky it wasn't stolen. What a silly billy As soon as I got in I had to eat a small tin of salmon as I thought I might pass out. Feel a bit better now, but can't wait for dinner.
I think I may have some good-ish news, though not for everyone - my sister's lover of 4 years has finally told his wife that he's leaving. For her it means she may have the new start she's wanted for years, but I am not so sure, at this stage he hasn't actually left, and I don't know if he can be trusted. My sister is happy, but I feel very sad for her ex-husband (who wanted to reconcile) and the lover's wife who had no idea about the affair and will be reeling from this news. I hope, eventually, they will all find happiness.
DS wants me to cuddle up while he watches Bananas in Pyjamas, so I'll do some knitting.
Hello! Wow gum how you manages to swim that far with 500 calories (is that right?) I don't know! Tin of salmon wouldn't have touched the sides here! Hope all sorts itself out soon for your sister...sounds pretty traumatic. Oh I also meant to mention about your new PM..hmmm, what to say...are you all mad? I have a feeling you wouldn't have been one of his voters though Gum
On the vitex-front, it did work wonders for me - increased my luteal phase from 9 days to 11/12 and no side effects whatsoever. I'm sure it helped when I was ttc-ing, and also helped with regulating my cycles (so I didn't bleed every 3 weeks) when not.
So scan day today to se if the placenta has 'moved' up or not...my hunch is not but then again I am such a pessimist with scans (not generally one!) On the plus side I have had no spotting whatsoever which you can see if placenta is still low, so we'll see. My palms are sweating just writing this!
Calibee I think the nail tech idea is ace - you have such a captive market there where you live and as Gum says it will work well with a baby
Love to all - sorry not to do more personals - must pay ds2 some attention!
Irish, I'm so pleased for you that you are pregnant again & that the scan shows all is well at the moment. I understand your anxiety, and have everything crossed that this one stays put.
Calibee, your nail tech plan sounds a good one. It sounds like you are settling in in NI, despite your dodgy internet. And hopefully your new GP is sympathetic. Wishing you a sticky bfp soon.
Mozza, how are you getting on in your new job?
Gum, 60 laps in the pool on so few calories?? No wonder you felt wobbly. If I haven't eaten much at work, I sometimes need chocolate just so I can make it home (2.5 mile total walking). I'm definitely not missing work at the moment though.
Diege, I hope your placenta has moved up. I can't believe you're 34 weeks (and notsoold too). I found the last few weeks went quite fast, but I really enjoyed being home with DD1 over the summer hols.
Thank you all for your good wishes. We are doing ok. I'm trying to type one handed while DD2 feeds. She's sleeping and feeding well, though we are struggling with the latch a bit. DD1 is thrilled with her baby sister, and wants to hold her/make a fuss of her all the time, which is great, but we are having to rein her in a bit & keep reminding her about LOs neck. DH is making sure I'm fed, but I'm not getting much affection from him, which is hard. I feel like I've lost him at the moment & I just want him to come back to me. He is interacting with his new DD though, but hasn't changed her nappy yet. Having MIL to stay was better than I anticipated, she was a star at keeping us fed, but drove DH especially up the wall. On a pleasing note, when I went for midwife check up last week, they queried why I was induced at 40 weeks, and they were very surprised when I told them my age . The induction was much better than last time, I was in labour for less than 3 hours, and then DD2 came very quickly - the midwife & DH managed to catch her.
I do know how truly fortunate I am to have a (hopefully) healthy baby at my age, and I wish everyone on this thread a sticky BFP very soon. I shall keep reading and popping in when I get chance if that's ok.
Lovely to hear from you sparkly - it sounds like you are doing impressively well, especially with an under-performing dh ...It's lovely too that dd1 is so happy with her little sister How do you feel in yourself?
It is so nice to hear from you Sparkly. It sounds like DD2 is doing well. Have you put a picture on your profile? I would love to see her. Sorry your DH isn't stepping up. That must be very hard for you, feeling you have lost him. It is an intense time when you have a newborn. Perhaps when everything has settled down he'll be better, or at least you might get a chance to talk to him about his behaviour? Is he having any counseling? It sounds like he may still need it.
Diege, I hope the scan went well, come and tell us as soon as you can.
As for our new PM, it was a bloody landslide victory, which has me baffled because I cannot understand why the majority of Australians would want a right wing government, nor why they'd want him. He's already made so many sexist faux pas when he was in opposition. Not to mention the shocking and horrible ideas they have to send assylum seekers back to war torn countries and the abolishment of the carbon tax, so big business, mining etc can go ahead and put as many emissions as they like into the environment with no financial comeback. It's really baffling. However, I think many traditional Labour voters didn't vote labour simply because of all the in-fighting in that party over the last 2 years. Rather than looking at policies, many people tend to look at the person (the leader) and the personalities within their party.It is worrying, but we shall have to wait and see what happens.
Well not much news here. I am CD9 today, so soon will crack open the opks. I am pleased to report that DH isn't going away this weekend as we have too much on socially It may not have made much difference, as he would have only been away for CD 10,11,12, but who knows, I may ovulate early - I have ovulated on day 11 or 12 before.Now he's going to go away in 2 weeks time, so that will be fine.
So we are out tonight at a restaurant with his work department (those boys love to drink!). I will eat at the Indian restaurant but won't be going with him to the party afterwards where they all watch the football and drink whiskey (ewww!). I am so pleased DS2 now has his driver's license, so he can pick up DH in the early hours. Then tomorrow night we have a friend's birthday.
No rest for the wicked, as they say
Hello! Hey glad I didn't offend you Gum with my negative comments about your PM It is indeed very odd that he won so convincingly - his sexism/racism/homophobia is what I'd associate with a maverick also-ran, but obviously a lot of people either don't see it like that or were attracted by other things...You are living in 'interesting' times to be sure!
Talking of interesting, I am a bit after yesterday's scan. Placenta is still low, though not covering cervix (to the side of it) and I'm being rescanned in 2 weeks to see if it's moved (still a chance but I'm not convinced). The shock I had relates to fact that I may need a section anyway - baby is measuring 42 weeks , with head and legs at 41 weeks, abdomen off the scale (43-44wks). Consultant wasn't worried, saying it's just a big baby (est weight if born yesterday 7ib 8, and predicted over 11ibs at birth . So we shall see! I do feel there's no room left, have never gone past 39 weeks before, and figure my body will probably go into labour in the next 2-3 weeks, if not before. Baby is doing well though (ironically head down, perfect position for birth etc) so they will just 'observe'....
Hope everyone else is ok xxx
hi deige. On my phone so no bold letters. Wow! Baby will be a whopper. As for going into labour in the next 2-3 weeks, are you feeling ready? I am very excited about your new bsby coming so soon.
Off to dinner now.will check in tomorrow morning.
Diege Wow, that's a whopper of a baby! How many weeks are you now? I'm sure it'll all be fine, esp as they are keeping a close eye on you.
Sapphire - sorry you DH isn't participating, that must be so frustrating. Fingers crossed he'll come round soon!
Cali - I can heartily recommend changing careers, if that's what will make you happy! It's exciting and challenging, and I for one have not regretted it. I also think that the beauty/wellness area is great to move into, there always seems to be a demand!
Not much new here. I finally feel I'm getting back to normal, finally caught up with work, started exercising again this week (the pain!) and will go back to WeightWatchers today, to try and loose the weight that has been creeping up again over the last few months.
And I'm currently being tested left right and centre for the recurring miscarriages - I thought it would take forever to kick off, but it all started happening really quickly. They took blood from DH and me, and today I'm having an ultrasound scan. All that's missing now is a blood sample from day2-5 in my next cycle. I already have been given an appointment with the consultant to discuss all the results in November! Really quite impressed with the speed. Although this could mean we'll be back to ttc really soon, scary thought
I had a pleasant evening out last night. The food was lovely (Indian) and company good. I sat near a young couple who are expecting their second baby. Their first is 18 months old and she is 10 weeks pregnant. They announced their pregnancy weeks ago; I sat there feeling so that they could be so confident and tell the world all about it, when I know if I ever get pregnant again I won't be telling anyone (maybe not even DH) until I make it past 10 weeks. Of course I am happy for them, they were a lovely couple, just a little sad for myself. And because I have had five and everyone thinks I'm done ttc, some of the comments were a bit upsetting, about how I don't need to think about that sort of thing anymore etc,etc.
Jbrd, I am glad that the testing is happening already. How do you feel about it? I suppose it would be good to know if there is a cause,especially if it can be sorted out, but I suppose in some ways knowing it is simply an age thing has different feelings attached. I speak for myself - I had a lot of testing done after my second miscarriage and although little things were found, they couldn't really pin it on anything. It did reveal that I have an underlying autoimmune disease (I don't know what at this stage) and it probably makes no difference to ttc. I was also a little low in Vit D, but ultimately, and after a long time, I have basically come to think it is down to being older and there's nothing to do but wait for a healthy egg.
Whatever is the case for you, I do hope they can help you and that you will have a THB soon.
I have to run now - another evening out. Both DH and I feel tired and in some ways would rather have an early night. It's an hour drive to our friend's farm and I know driving home will be hard. AI should stop complaining _ I will probably enjoy myself. The worst thing is finding something nice to wear when I just want to snuggle in tracky pants and ugg boots
Evening! Just a quick hello en route to bed. Very stormy here - don't think that summer will return...
Sounds like you've got a busy few days going on there gum (not to mention the upcoming action ) Hope you can find t relax properly too x
Hope everyone's ok
Morning Ladies. Actually Diege I think the weekend sounds worse than it was. I was pretty tired when we went out on Saturday night after a late night, early morning and then taking DS swimming and swimming my laps. I have to admit to doing a lot of yawning throughout dinner, and leaving at about 11. Which is reasonably late, but we'd only just finished dessert It was a pleasant evening.
I made up for the tiredness by having a pretty slack Sunday. A friend brought her kids over for a playdate, and they had a ball. Then we chilled out all afternoon, watching movies. Poor DH had to go and do some work for his dad on their farm, so he wasn't as rested as me.
His dad is starting his 5 weeks of radiation therapy tomorrow. We found out from DH's sister that the doctor said there was a real possibility that he may not have a year left but they would do the treatment to slow things down. It is sad and I know it will be a difficult time for my DH. He's never had a close and loving relationship with his father, so I worry about how this whole process will go, I think it will be harder because they aren't close. My DH is being very good to his parents, always there to help, sometimes at his expense and the expense of time to do things here (for example all the yard work he did for his father yesterday, really needs to be done here).
I wonder whether having anew baby would be a blessing or a problem with DH's parents ailing. I can see how it would put DH under pressure, though I am the hands on one with the kids. I just know,more and more he'll have to help his parents out (and of the four children, he's the only one living close by). But, I do think that having a new life (a baby) around would really help with the sadness of losing his parents IYKWIM?
Anyway, its all just academic isn't it, as I am not even pregnant, and the chances are getting slimmer as they years march on.
Despite my poor chances, I am day 12, no positive opk yet, but plenty of SWI, so that's a step in the right direction. This cycle I'd really like to try and have SWI on the day of ovulation, because all the pregnancies I have had since charting have had SWI on O day. The problem is, I seem to feel too tired and "over it" by the time it is O day, and I convince myself that the shop is closed by then. However, all those pregnancy charts have various days before O (day 1,2 or 3,or a combination) and O day.It will be my mission this time
How is everyone else? It's a bit quiet in the Snug these days. I remember a time when we'd get to 1000 posts very quickly, I was surprised to see we only have 318 messages on the thread. I sometimes feel I am talking to myself, but that's ok, as it is good to have somewhere to rabbit on about all this, kind of like a personal journal.
Drop in and say hello if you are lurking...and have one of these
Wel that's definitely my time to delurk..as I got a BFP!!
With such an high risk of mc though, it doesn't even seem real..I think I'm trying to protect my self from hoping too much..
But just for today it's still good news isn't it?
sparkly work is hard, some classes are manageable, but I have one class where they are so noisy and naughty I can hardly speak.. You can hardly split the "bad ones" as there are too many of them....
Happy to here about your baby arrival and the enthusiasm of DD1..I really hope your Dh will cope with this new situation and change his mood, he may needs some time though..no way to have a chat with him?
Fantastic news, mozzarella, good for you I know what you mean about not wanting to hope too much (I've been exactly the same), but for today you're pregnant. Congratulations - here's too a smooth, easy pregnancy.
I'll gratefully settle down with that , gum - just what I need! I'm always here reading, but I post less than when I was TTC, partly as I don't have a lot to report, and also because I don't want to complain here about every little pregnancy niggle as I know that everyone here would love to have those niggles (you know what I mean ).
Anyway, am 19+2 now, got my next scan in 2 weeks, though due to see my gynae before that. Am finally feeling less tired, and in fact I feel so well now that I forget I'm pregnant - and keep getting a shock when I see my little (but fast-growing) bump in a mirror.
Wishing you all a lovey week!
Congratulations mozzarella That is wonderful news. When did you find out? How far along are you?
Morien, it is nice to hear from you. Wow! 19 +2. I can't believe you are almost half way through. I hope you can enjoy your growing bump. How exciting.
Must dash, DS calling me from the bath...
I am 4 wks +3..almost no symptoms..I will try to see my dr next week..actually Ididn't expect it for this month as I thought we didn't dtd on fertile days..maybe it's a super SWI who survived for a few days..should I worry even more?
Congratulations mozzarella, what lovely news! Here's to a smooth, trouble free pregnancy - I really hope this one works for you.
Jbrd, that seems really quick with the testing. I hope they find some explanation and something treatable.
Diege, that sounds like a huge baby! I hope you're doing ok though.
Gum, I don't think you're talking to yourself! It's always good to read your posts however you're feeling and I do think that having an outlet is really useful. I know I've found it helpful.
My brother & family came yesterday to meet the new arrival. DB & DH went for a drink (for much longer than they said), but my clever DB finally got DH to talk. DH and I haven't had chance to talk as he collapsed in a heap on the bed and went to sleep, but I'm sure it's helped so hopefully we can make some progress. Otherwise all is good, DD2 gaining weight, I'm losing sleep, but finding it much easier this time round!
Mozzarella... Wonderful news!!! Many congratulations!!
Morien...I agree with gum that time flies!!! Will you want to know the gender????
Sparkly....excellent that people are talking to your dh!!! I hope he comes around soon!!!lovely to know baby sparkly is doing well!!!
Gum my thoughts are with your dfil starting radiation. Your questions is very valid regarding the right time to have a baby, and only you can answer it. I always think that problems are always with us but good things we grab them as they present themselves...xxx
Jbrd how are ww coming along??? Good news people are testing you !!!!
Diege...that is a big baby!!! Are you going to have another scan confirming size or is that it???
Cali, how is life in your new place???
irish....how are you doing?? Xxxx
I am another lurker always reading and keeping fingers crossed for you all....
I will have another scan in less the two weeks ( will be 36 weeks then) to see if baby is still breech and if so what will be done....still working until the end of September!!!
Hello to everyone else I missed
Just a quickie to say congrats to mozzarella mummy. I am sending my best sticky vibes.
Glad to hear you're coping we'll with the sleepless nights sparkly. Hope your husband gets his head straight soon.
Diege - wow to a big boy! Were your others big too?
JBrd - pleased to hear you're getting swift and thorough attention.
Gum - I am on day 13 so I think we're in synch. I am sorry I don't post more at the moment. My dad has a sarcoma - soft tissue tumour in his hip. Waiting for biopsy results this week but he's clearly in agony and already on morphine. :-(
I feel very sad to be far away. I know he's getting great care - going to the marsden in London but I wish I could be there even just for a cup of tea and a chat. So, I sympathise - must be hard to watch your fil and by extension your dh suffer. Nobody is ever ready to face this stuff.
So - I am a bit all over the place and my little one is really playing me up. I would love her to have a sibling - everything going on makes me want that more for her and yet emotionally I'm exhausted and dtd is not top of my list of priorities but I want it to be.
Congratulation Mozzarella ! That's really good news. Hope your teaching isn't causing you too much stress at this time, try to take it easy if you can.
gum sorry to hear about your FIL and I can see it must be difficult for your DH at the moment.
Also isadorable, it must be hard to worry about your Dad from a distance,I hope his treatment is successful.
Diege your baby boy is HUGE! Mine were all under the weight he is now at birth and they were all overdue, DS by 2 weeks! When will they decide re a natural delivery or c section?
Sparkly sounds promising that DH is opening up and talking and glad that baby sparkly is doing well.
*CaliBee" you sound like you're settling in to life in NI, hope your DD has a lovely visit with you. Doing that course sounds like a really good idea, it's a skill you could use to start your own business any where, I presume you'll have more travelling with the army over the next few years?
When is your DD1's baby due?
Hi Morien and notsoold, glad to hear your pregnancies are progressing well.
I'm counting down to my next scan next week. I'm feeling tired and nauseous a lot of the time, which is great, I'm not complaining! When I stop feeling ill I worry even more though. And I know from experience the symptoms can still remain after things have gone wrong! I went to see the GPs last week after the scan to book in for antenatal care. It wasn't a doctor I normally choose to see and she was less than enthuasiastic or encouraging about my pregnancy,just commented that she assumed I was aware of the high risks of conditions like Down's at my age and filled in forms without much further comment. We've not told the DC yet,though the girls may start to notice soon,I have definitely changed shape. I don't know what that's all about since the little one still isn't much bigger than a bean!
Hello to everyone else
p.s. gum even if I'm not posting very often,I love reading your posts,please don't stop!
Irish - I imagine it must be extremely nerve wracking, not least after what you've already been through. Keep taking it a day at a time. I remember the panic I felt when I didn't feel sick, when I didn't think she was moving enough (I really craved full fat coke, something I hadn't drunk in years, rationed myself except when I really needed the reassurance of her dancing around. Someone gave her some coke not long ago and she's always asking for it now. I won't give it to her - I hadn't made the connection till now!)
I told my gyne we'd like another baby but I wondered if it was too late. He pulled a face like he was sucking a lemon. He's very old school and a lot of doctors won't be positive I guess but it isn't up to them to decide things. My pain doc sent me to see a psychologist cos she was so surprised I would risk another pregnancy. Psych was/is lovely about it though. It is for you and your family to decide these things and your doc to take care of you. I will be thinking of you next week. Thanks for our kindness re my dad.
So many goo dress,congratulations to new bfp-owners and best luck. It is giving hope for us all, I repeat. So happy for you.
I am uneventful these last weeks, ttc at the quasi-right time this cycle, due to my work left home at CD 12, but I elieve I did ovulate thereabouts as well. No opts this month, my cervical mucus is good enough indicator I believe. Feeling relaxed about the whole ting, maybe indifferent, but happier than mpatiently waiting to OV, then to test.
Good luck to everyone, off to plane to return home now....
Good morning ladies.
Nothing much to report here. I think I must be in true peri-menopause now. It is taking longer than usual these days to ovulate, and I have no sign whatsoever of cervical mucus. Any suggestions??
OPK was negative last night, so I did one when I got up this morning and it is so close to positive that I recorded it as positive. It's CD14, so it is about time. I will test again this afternoon to see whether the surge was missed overnight or if it is yet to come. I had planned on SWI last night, but I was feeling a bit sick (nauseous) after dinner, so there was no action. The sickness was so like morning sickness that I foolishly took a preg test this am. I knew it would be negative - I still have low temps as I usually do before ovulation, but I thought I'd check as it really did feel like pregnancy sickness. Maybe it's ovulation sickness?
I slept badly, and woke before 5 am, so I think today will be a struggle, and I'll have to have a nap when I get home from work so that I can muster up the energy for SWI
I will be glad when I finally get a BFP and THB. [praying/begging emoticon] It will be a relief to not have to have sex [yawn]
Good to see some action on the thread. Isadorable, I am sorry to hear your father is unwell. How difficult for you when you are far away.
Jass, it is nice to hear from you, and great that you are feeling relaxed about things.
Irish, that GP sounds like an idiot. Why on earth talk about the risks when you are already pregnant. To me that is just silly, and presumes that you have no idea. A bit insulting I think. Anyway, don't worry what anyone thinks. We all know you are a wonderful mummy and your baby is very lucky to have found its way to you. I hope you continue to feel sick and tired, but don't forget it can wax and wan. I have everything crossed for you.
Mozza I remember you saying that you thought your timing wasn't very good this cycle. Was it just before you went on holiday? Perhaps the holiday was just what you needed for the little bean to burrow in.
I must go and feed DS his breakfast. Have a lovely day.
Just poking my head in quickly to say congratulations to mozzarella! Fab news, wishing you a boring and uneventful pregnancy
All god here, very very busy, trying to keep my head above water (only just!)
Will write more detailed some other time!
<<waves to everyone>>
Thank you for your kind words of encouragement Isadorable and gum, I was having a very shakey day yesterday( when my nausea seemed much better so I thought the worst) and it really helped!
I have to admit I caved in to the panic though and booked a private scan for today.I was reassured to see my baby is growing,now measuring 8w4d and everything looks normal.I was able to listen to the little heartbeat which was amazing.I know it's still early days and I've lost one later then this previously but for today I'm still pregnant!
Isadorable that's really interesting about your DD and coke. When my mum was pregnant with me she craved a particular brand of brown sauce,never liked it before and never liked it after I was born.When I was little I loved that sauce and wouldn't eat my meals without it!
Sorry to hear you didn't get a good reaction from your gynae either, but as you say it's not their choice or decision to make.
gum was your next opk positive? You must be exhausted if you were up from 5am, you sound like you have such a busy life and pack so much into your days anyway! Hope you managed some SWI.
Hi Jass ,JBrd and everyone else.
Hi Irish - delighted to hear you got to see your little bun again and all is well. I think it is totally normal to feel wobbly! As to the food and drinks - it is amazing isnt it? I ate lots of fish, potatoes and broccoli when pregnant with her (craved bland things when normally I like quite spicy things) and she adores all three foods. Infact, as soon as we get in the supermarket she says - "Mama, fish!".
How's things Gum? Hi to everyone else!
Congrats mozzarella that's lovely news
Great news too irish about the scan - hopefully you will feel reassured enough to see you through to the next appointment xx
Gum fingers crossed you have the energy later on tonight! Will be sending you energy vibes <returns to chocolate sundae> and just think how pleased you'll feel to get it out of the way
Back from the mw - did I mention she is the most useless, disinterested mw to walk the earth - all ok, baby is measuring big (she said he feels around 7ib now) and fundal height 39 weeks. Had to remind her to listen to the heart Booked in for next week, though she said I needn't bother but I am quite anxious about this whole big baby/low placenta thing so said I'd prefer an appointment before I see the consultant the week after...
Hoping everyone is ok - quite eventful here in the snug at the moment!
Thanks everyone for your congratulations.. I am actually quite overwhelmed by this new job and don't have time to think too much about being pg..tomorrow I'll meet a class with a student who is already known by the juvenile court and social services...gulp!
Irish good to hear you were reassured, it's already a big step..
Time to prepare my lessons now..
Good Morning from Down Under.
Mozza, it sounds like you have some hard cases at your school. I hope the lesson with the "juvenile" worked out ok. Do you have a support system for teachers, for when students are really misbehaving? At my school, I know that if someone is behaving especially badly, s/he can just be easily removed from the class for that lesson (or however many lessons it takes) until they are put on a contract for reentry. It really makes things easier for teachers.
This morning all the teachers are having a "stop work meeting".It isn't a strike, just a couple of hours where we aren't at work, and we'll meet in the town hall to talk about the cut-backs and how we'll fight back. So all my kids will stay home today. They could go in at lunch but as we live out of town I'd need 40 minutes to drive them and I can't do that. Charlie is pleased, he much prefers being home than going to school. In fact I had a meeting with his teacher on Monday as I was concerned there was something happening at school, but apparently he's fine there, he just prefers lounging at home. Who doesn't?
Diege, your midwife sounds awful. It is just as well you are educated and experienced in these matters so you are sure you get the care you need. With the low lying placenta and big baby, I am surprised she didn't want to keep a better eye on you.
Irish, I am so pleased to hear all is well with the baby. I know what a nerve-wracking time it can be.
Jbrd - busy is good, right? Come and see us soon with all the details.
Well, I did another opk yesterday afternoon, and it didn't seem as + as the one in the morning. But I've done another this morning and it is much darker. I still wouldn't say it is as dark as the control line, but I am using cheapo internet sticks. They are so skinny you can hardly see them I won't buy them again, but as I bought about 40 of them I may never need to buy them again Anyway, we DTD last night and I'll try again tonight, but I will be happy with every second night if DH isn't up for it. I am feeling twinges in the ovarian region this morning, so perhaps I will ovulate today?
I have decided I simply must get pregnant this cycle because I want to be belly buddies with diege, and as she's about to pop, it has to happen now
Besides, I really have been waiting a bloody long time for my baby
Hopeful, these internet cheapos are actually quite sufficient, as they give you the period when you are likely to ovulate. It is not exact science anyway, whatever better sticks claim, but you would know you could not ovulate before the day it turned darker, and that you ovulated no later than the day after the first day it started to go lighter. If it remains almost pos for several days, it probably means you are taking time to ovulate and might finally not manage this month, otherwise they return to neg in more or less 3 days, I have noticed. They do the job, and I never bother with more than one a day, and then SWI every other day until they go back to neg territory. Takes about 4 shaggatons to get there. Mine usually get a pattern of one quite light - next almost or truly pos - another one like that and then fourth day clearly on downward trend. So, I would start SWI on the first hint of a line (I do not have line at all before the time of OV approaches, and I htink this is exactly because cheapos have less color in them - good actually).
Mozarella, maybe being busy keeps your thoughts about pregnancy at bay. But stress is bad, of course....
Irish, close to 9 weeks is wonderful. Every day the chances it will end in a baby are growing:-)
jass, that is reassuring. I took another opk last night which I would consider definitely + and again this morning, definately +. And I am having proper ovulation ache right now - it is quite obvious and ouchy. I am pleased we DTD last night and hopefully we'll go again tonight, but then I think I'll give myself permission for a break (3 nights in a row - quite unusual for me!)
I went swimming yesterday afternoon, and today is a fast day, so I think I am doing my best to be as healthy as possible. It kind of keeps me feeling positive too.
I am running out of time this morning, I have had to do some baking this morning as it is a colleague's birthday today and we'll have a special morning tea (I won't be having any tho' as I am only on 500 cals today ).
I had better go check on it as my oven is very dodgy.
HAve a happy day everyone
Just popped on as I heard a rumour that diege was feeling a little anxious.
Can I just say lovely that you know how I feel about growth scans, they are notoriously innacurate and misleading. Unless baby has iugr ( restricted growth over a period of time in utero ) then any other weight givIng information is mIsleading and not imPortant. Fundal height depends on so many factors, position of baby, fluid, mums position, ie laying on back etc.
Scans may suggest baby's limbs are !!!% whatever but until that baby is born they cannot know for sure.
Sometimes babies get stuck, fact, BUT a lot of the time, and many midwives would agree here, it is down to bad management of labour, woman being induced for non medicAl reason, rushing labour. It is very unusual for women to grow a baby in normal circs ( no vest diabetes etc ) that she cannot birth.
A larger than average baby is no reason for a cs, especially when it is baby number 6!!
Hope that helps, you know where I am x
Hi to anyone else that knows me and congrats to the recent bfp's x
Hey lia great to hear from you, and wise words indeed . I don't think (well I know I wouldn't) ask for a cs just because baby was seeming big. The complicating factor is a low placenta (at 34 wks, being rescanned at 37) which would usually I am presuming define the mode of delivery anyway. If it has 'risen' then I would 99% go for a normal delivery I think - if it's grade one or two I'm not sure what my hosp options would be but would discuss. How are things with you and yours anyway? Wish you were around the corner to come with my appointments with me..
Gum come on now, 5 weeks to be bump buddies . After that, you're on your own . I will always remain a cheerleader though and hopefully will always remain on this thread. Hope you manage your mega 3 in a row session!!!
I agree with jass about the internet cheapies - never got a line darker than he control one myself, and always white as white before surge and after. I did count the 'nearly' line as a positive though when I was doing them and assumed it was an ink issue or a narrowly missed surge.
Off to bed now - really shattered just with one dc at home today - work is definitively much easier!
Helloo Lia66, how nice to see you.
Deige, unfortunately my DH was very tired and went to bed hours before DS and me, so there was no action last night and would you believe I actually have EWCM yesterday. Grr! And today my temperature is up, so yesterday was O day. I have to be content with the two days beforehand, surely there'd be some swimmers in the right place?
So onwards to the tww. I shall keep an open mind and hope for the best. I think it would be better if I had no expectations at all and then got a nice surprise, but that's not me, I will be keeping track of every little twinge
It is the weekend here (this week seems to have flown) and we've only one week of school til spring break. Hurray! Not that things will slow down all that much. Two of my DC's have got two weeks of swimming lessons, so we'll be heading into town every weekday morning. Plus DD's got a friend coming to stay and I am sure there will be a lot of other stuff going on. I'd also like to do a little trip to the city, which will be hard to juggle with the swimming lessons, but maybe DH won't be a grumpy bear (as he is about these kind of commitments) and will take them along for a couple of days, so I can get away. I would like to meet my DSis's new partner despite all the controversy surrounding that relationship. I support her because I just want her to be happy. It is sad that both families have been split, but she was very unhappy in her marriage and it is for the best.
She told me yesterday that her DP's family have "disowned" him because he left an unhappy marriage. So silly!
Well, I'd better run off to the farmer's market, then a swim at the pool before picking up DD from a sleep over. It never stops here
Hopeful, not to worry. I read our yesterday's post and wanted to say that you should rather do it every other day, it is sufficient and actually recommended for oldies, I.e. keeps the sperm quality even. Every day may result in lower quality sperm, as the process is too heavy on those old gonads:-)
I just tested whether my tap water is pregnant. No, not crazy. I got a light pos on Inverness blue line test. Notorious for false positives, but only one you can by in Lux. It was pos. A cheapo I bought back home was neg. and Inverness remained pos when in the spring I went through miscarriage, but beta was 0,1. (Not on the same day though). So, I coul don't believe this line until it is proved my tap water is less preg than me. Hence I wasted 12 euros to see on 9-10 DPO whether I am pregnant. My excuse is that if am need medication ASAP. But... I thought I am calm now:-)
So far, while I entertain you with this crazy story, my tap water seems unpregnant. But I will wait for 15 more minutes to be sure.....
jasslet us know about your tap water! If it's a true bfp we could go back to our old deal, don't you think?
Tap not preg. That means I am. Started pred and mentalling. Weirdly hope it is at least not chem, so I could have hope a little longer. The straws we are ready to grasp....
I suppose congratulations are in order then Jass? I am amazed at how easily you get pregnant. I hope this one's a keeper.
Yes, I have heard every second day is good for oldies too, but because I can't be sure when I will ovulate I want to have had sex as close as possible to ovulation, so I keep at it, IYSWIM. Anyway, I know I did my best and will now have to wait and see. My temperature has had a nice rise, so I know I have ovulated.
How is everyone?
Jbrd, have you had any test results in?
There's a large percentage of ladies on this thread who are up-duffed: Morien, Diege , notsoold , mozza , Irish and now jass. I wonder what the average age is? It just shows that being over forty doesn't mean you can't get pregnant
I am starting to feel a bit left out, so do you think I could get the next BFP?
Jass...congratulations!!!! Fx everything will go well!!! Xxx
We can do the averages, I am 43. And I guess I beat the averages by being fertile every other or third cycle, only ending in nothing normally. Another squinter line this morning (different test, pink dye, less sensitive than the cursed blue dye test). So on with pred, but I expected more to be honest, if this wants to be a sticker.
I guess if women below forty get 90 % pregnant in one yea and we 85% in one year, then we being around 15 year maybe we should have 11-12 pregnancies per year at least? Enought to be exited all year around:-)
Congratulations Jass - one day at a time, but for today you ARE pregnant!
Gum you are most deserving of the next bfp! I think you've done sterling work this month, especially with a under the weather dp - bet he didn't need much persuading though
All ok here. Mum doing her 'usual' - have suggested they might be able to come over to look after the dcs if I have an elective section if placenta still low, so they would know the date etc etc. Dad fine and will take a day's annual leave but mum's behaviour very odd. She may have something on...couldn't come over the night before 'because of the dog' , my sisters/her friends couldn't pop in to feed the dog etc as 'they have dogs too' doesn't think she could cope with the dcs even though chances are they'll be in school/nursery, plus are not what you'd call 'difficult' (I think she means the 2 year old who is literally in to everything) so would need my dad there too...TBH the whole debate is exhausting me, and there was I thinking the one advantage of an elective section would be so I could plan. Maybe I should just take the hint...Arghhhh!!!!! Sorry to rant - feel better now!
Not really a poster here, more of a lurker but enjoy reading all your news. Lovely hearing of all the bfps, keep them coming girlies! Maybe one will rub off on me too
Diege, it will be fine, in the end everything works out. It always does. Can you have a few friends on standby with whom kids are familiar and who can help out your mum? I understand though grandmother reluctance towards toddlers. Mine would not even consider it and she is only 72, I was really disappointed when at 64, when my third came She was barely capable of managing a grandchild. Mainly because She refused to wear glasses, is blind as a bat without them and risks just loosing kids...but wanted to have my son with her, so had to be real rude sometimes......
Congratulations jass - thought I might be joining you but AF is here far too early instead. Diege - I hope it all goes well, I am sure it will. Gum - I am crossing fingers and toes you're next.
My dad's cancer is aggressive and inoperable so I am getting organised to go over to uk. With a two year-old who is in everything in tow... Might have to stay at my aunt's.
Oh isadorable, I am so sorry about your dad - the cancer is aggressive?I had a look back on the thread but couldn't find your post about it, what type of cancer is it? Have they given you an idea of time? I hope the trip isn't too harrowing with a toddler in tow.How long is the flight? And I am really sorry you didn't get a bfp this time.
Wouldn't it be fabulous if we all ended up with a bfp and baby and we could say our thread had 100% success?
Deige, I am sorry your mum is being weird. God knows my mother is also strange in that way. If I call and say,I really need your help with the kids because DH is away and I am sick, her response is, "Oh, I would, but I the cat hasn't been well, and your father can't look after himself etc, etc" It always made me feel that I wasn't important enough and I stopped asking. But really, your mum's excuse about the dog is very funny. You are having a baby FGS, surely the dog will cope overnight with your sister feeding it? How about DH's mum? Or one of your sisters? Honestly, I do wonder about the women of my mother's generation (baby boomers) I know a few and they are quite selfish. I like to think that when my daughter's/sons ask for help with their kids I will try to help as much as possible. I have a colleague at work, who is my mum's age, and is gorgeous. Her daughter lives in the UK and she travels there twice a year to help her daughter out, and is always helping financially etc. I wish she were my mum because she genuinely enjoys her grandchildren, but I don't get that from my mum or DH's mum.
Well, I am pretty happy with my effort this month and now feel I can have a bit of a reprieve! For the first time ever, I think, since starting charting 5 years ago, I have scored "High" on Fertility Friend. I usually get "good". But this time, though we didn't DTD on O day, we did the day after, which obviously gives a higher score on FF. Of course it means nothing, really, just a bit of fun. If I do conceive and have a baby this time, the due date is June 13, and I have always wanted a June baby, so that would be nice...
Hello out there to Calibee, Mumalah, togerseyemum , greenlizard and fireflies, drop in and say hello, let us know how you are?
Gum he has a soft tissue sarcoma - he's having scans to see if it has spread. From there we may get a timescale of sorts. I'd love us to all get babies - who knows? Perhaps we will? I'm annoyed my periods are all over the place but this is a difficult time mentally and physically so I can't be that surprised I suppose. Lots of love to all those pregnant and worrying for whatever reason. The sun is shining and work is being very understanding. I may take dd to feed the ducks, terrapins and carp at the Japanese garden. Her favourite thing.
I've been away for a few days so popping in quickly to check for any news before I tackle a mountain of ironing!
Isadorable so sorry to hear your Dad's sarcoma is inoperable and aggressive, I hope it can be managed and that he's kept as painfree as possible.It must be such a difficult time for you ,I just wanted you to know I'm thinking of you xxx
Jass congratulations!I hope this is a sticky one!
gum I'd love to be bump buddies with you,sounds like chances are good this month.
I have another scan at the EPU tomorrow, it feels like a milestone since my MMC baby died at just under 9 weeks. No bleeding and I feel pregnant so here's hoping.....
BTW if we're recapping ages I'm 45!
Isadorable, so sorry for your dad.
And sorry for all those who have egoistic mothers. I do think is it because they have had relatively easy lives and lots of security that has made them this way? Even my mum, within the old Soviet Union had job security, food and roof were guaranteed even if having anything else was impossible, and that has made them this way? My grandma, who went through Stalin's GULAG and served 9 years in nickel mines, was much more forthcoming if relatives where in need of help, I remember.
I have already promised I will always be there for my kids when they have kids and need helping out! I trust them not to abuse my willingness:-)
Irish, good luck with milestone scan!
I will retest tomorrow (did not today - proud!). If line is to darker than Sat, I know my fate. If is darker, then continue with Prednisolone
jass Yay for your BFP, that's great news! Here's hoping it's a sticky one!
isadorable So sorry to hear about your dad. Family illnesses are awful, and so much more difficult if you're not living in the same country as them. Hope your trip goes well.
Diege Don't get me started on mothers... I have both extremes: my mum, who would lovelovelove to be more involved with DS, but can't be because a) she lives in Switzerland and b) she's just not able to do it physically anymore. I literally cannot leave DS alone with her, she can't keep up with him. It is extremely frustrating. And then there's MIL, who is just not interested in 'getting down and dirty' with her grandchildren - she's been there, done that, thank you very much. FIL is the complete opposite, which is why DS loves him, but is rather uninterested in MIL
gum Isn't it funny how one can get so proud by getting grades from FertilityFriend (an app)?! I am the same - a high score is so satisfactory, it's like school! Wishing baby dust your way...
I'm extremely busy at work, it's mental. We have a big deadline coming up, and everyone is mega-stressed. I barely have energy for anything else at the moment (not helped by the fact that I have drastically upped my fitness regime - started a running programme on top of my gym routine, I'm shattered).
Testing is ongoing - today I had bloods taken for my early-cycle hormone tests. AF arrived like clockwork last week on day 29 post-mc, which makes it very scarily like a normal cycle. My body has bounced back like nothing ever happened...
The nurse who took the blood was surprised that the hospital didn't say to get bloods on CD21 as well - they never mentioned it, but I will phone and ask. It would be so annoying having to wait another month if I did. Had a scan last week, part of the testing.
I have a consultant appointment in November, where everything will be discussed. I'm dreading it...
Chemical here. again. Line gone by today, af not arrived, but obviously imminent....
Jass, I am sorry to hear that. What a difficult road you have traveled in the ttc journey. I know you have to test early because you need to take the pred, but I imagine if you could wait to test it would make things a bit easier. I am so sorry you are going through this. ((hugs))
All going well in "Gum" land. Had a nice temperature jump today, but I do know it is all irrelevant unless I get two pink lines and no AF.
A funny thing happened last night. DS was sleeping with me and it was a very windy night (I have not slept well at all due to the loud storm) and he woke up in the middle of the night and said to me,"mummy, where did my little sister go? You were just holding her in your hands?" I was puzzled, but thought how nice to hear those words: "little sister" from my DS. He's talked about a little sister a bit lately. I hope he is psychic and that I can give him a little sister (or brother) soon. I know he'd be so happy. He was probably just dreaming.
Well, I have slept in a bit because of my terribly night's sleep, so now I must hurry.
Drop in and say hello folks
Oh jass, again, I'm so sorry...
Isadorable so sorry about your dad. I know how hard it is to be in a different country at times like this.
Well, gum, maybe your DS knows something you don't (yet)...fingers crossed!
I'm another that you shouldn't get started on mothers! My DM is the best grandma to my little niece (her only grandchild), who lives close to her. My DSis is a SAHM (albeit a reluctant one, but it makes financial sense), and my DM and stepdad take her DD at least one day a week to give her a break, as well as having her overnight at least once a week so DSis and BIL get a bit of time to themselves. (I was actually a bit worried about DM until my grandma died in July, as when it wasn't my niece it was my grandma, and she never seemed to have any time for herself - she and DSF are on holiday for a month at the moment, well-deserved). I'm a bit because as we live in a different country my DC (once born!) won't benefit as much (and nor will DH& I). Even so, my DSCs love my DM & DSF, as they play with them and get involved, even if they don't see each other regularly. MIL, meanwhile, lives very close to us but is just not interested in her DGCs. I think she misses out hugely, but it makes me sad for my DSCs especially (and for my future DC), when I think of everything I shared with my grandma. What really riles me is that even if she won't do it for her own pleasure, she won't step in to help us, either, even if it must be obvious it's needed - yet the minute she needs help, DH is expected to drop everything and run
Got my monthly check-up with the gynae this afternoon; my scan's not for another 2 weeks though. To my surprise I'm desperate to know the gender.
jass I'm so sorry to hear your news xx
Gum your ds sounds so sweet - all is looking good and I truly hope it's your month xx
Mothers eh, who'd have them I think me and you share the same one gum. I have been pretty poorly since Monday (in bad with bad cold and sinusitis) and it would have really helped to know I could have picked up the phone and she might have helped a little with school run etc, but just didn't have the energy to listen to the excuses . Feeling slightly better today thank goodness! Don't fancy going into labour with sinusitis...
irish really hope all went well at the scan - please update!!!
36 weeks now and have been having a few strong contractions, mainly at night - things are definitely moving down - not too well if I need a cs I hope! Am seeing Mrs Charisma the MW this afternoon - will update if anything interesting to report!
Love to all xxx
Sorry to hear that jass - take care.
Yes, Irish - how did the other scan go?
Diege/Morien - good luck with the apts. Diege - hope you feel better soon.
Thanks for all your kind words about dad. He collapsed on the stairs and mum managed to jump over him, call an ambulance and then stop him sliding down till they came. So he's in hospital for now where they've stabilised things though he cant stand up. This was my nightmare - had been trying to get them to sort a bed downstairs. I am tired and fragile -work are being amazingly kind to me which is a massive help.
Thinking of you and your family isadorable xxx
You must be so worried isadorable, what a nightmare. When do you fly over to the UK? I'm glad work are being sensitive but it must be so hard to deal with. At least your Dad is in safe hands and being looked after in hospital.How is your Mum coping? Love to you and your family xxx
Jass sorry to hear your news xxx
My scan yesterday showed a little wriggling baby with arms,legs and a hearbeat measuring 9w2d, so I have at least passed the 9w benchmark. However the sonographer didn't see the yolksac. The nurse thought it was a mistype on the report and went back to check with her but she hadn't seen it. She said it may be because the placenta is starting to take over and it's just shrinking. It was very clearly on last week's private scan.They said not to worry but I thought I'd ask here if anyone has any views, there's such a wealth of experience on this thread!
Also the sonographer noted an area of "bruising" or a haematoma on the uterine wall, she said possibly from implantation, though it wasn't noted on the scans last week or the week before. It could start to bleed or just reabsorb, they said to try not to worry too much but not to do anything too strenuous. I wondered if it could be anything to do with the aspirin I'm taking but the nurse thought not. I've had no bleeding or spotting so far. Any thoughts?
I'm just booked for my routine scan in three weeks unless I bleed or have problems before, but being the worrier that I am I've booked a private scan for next week!
My normal midwife appointment has come through for next week ,eeek!
Diege , my DH is also suffering from sinusitis and flu like symptoms, but at least he can take medication, poor you having to suffer with it while pregnant and looking after 5 DC! Hope your midwife appointment goes well. Strong Braxton Hicks already!! Did you go early with any of your other DC?
gum I hope your DS's prediction comes true! Seems signs are boding well this month!
JBrd I'm glad testing is underway for you and your cycle is back to normal so quickly. You must be getting very fit with all that training!
Morien does your DH want to know the gender too? My DH has never wanted to know so we've never found out, I thought it would be too hard for me to know and not tell him!
Hi to everyone else
Great news Irish! I had the same thing re: the yolk sac with dd1 12 years ago. Report said it couldn't be seen (was around 10 wks) the mw said it 'must have been seen' but sonographer confirmed not...First time I've thought about it actually, but nothing ever came of it and all well. Placenta does start taking over from 8/9 wks, so may well be what happened in our cases. You are doing so well getting through these early days. When is your scan next week?
Re: previous deliveries, all 5 dcs were born at around 39 weeks (spontaneous). My concern this time is that I go into labour with a low placenta, though Dr. Google confirms I won't start bleeding until 8cm dilated . Can't wait until scan on Tuesday so a decision can be made re: section or natural - I'm ok with stressful situations if I have some idea of a plan - not so good with uncertainties!
Just back from my appointment and all is well. We saw our little baby on the screen too, but as it was just the little scanner in the gynae's office it was actually a bit underwhelming! I got a rap on the knuckles for having put too much weight in this month - 2.8kg instead if there recommended 1.5; I think they attach much more importance to that here than in the UK. I think I've put on about 4kg altogether, and I swear anything that's not the bump is my huge boobs!
We went to pick the DSCs up from school and had an encounter with their mother I'd rather have avoided (she works there), starting with her touching my bump, which I hate (everyone except DH & my DSCs), then asking out of the blue if I'd done the amniocentesis . I was flabbergasted by her nosiness and her rudeness (or maybe I'm just over-sensitive?) but I always find myself on the back foot in that kind of situation, when I'm faced with someone behaving in a way that I just wouldn't (I mean, there are lots of innocuous questions you can ask a pregnant woman; you really don't needs to pry into private things - nobody else has asked about amnio --except MIL--) so instead of saying politely that it was perhaps none of her business I answered truthfully, ie 'no'. Cue full-on shock, horror, asking my age, telling us we really should have had it done, what were we thinking, did we realise the risks??? I'd collected myself enough by this point to realise that I really didn't want to share with her the fact that an amnio was unnecessary because we'd done the harmony test so I just told her that the situation was under control and we knew exactly what we were doing - and closed the car door. I just hate the way pregnant women become public property - absolutely anyone can tell you what you should be doing
Aargh, sorry about that!
irish yes, DH wants to know the sex as well. Even more than I do, I'd say. He looked like a little boy who didn't get what he wanted for Christmas in the gynae's office this afternoon, when the scan quality wasn't good enough to see the sex! I'm glad your scan went well, BTW - that must be reassuring.
I think you were very restrained morien I'll bet you'll lie awake all night thinking of what you could have said . Great news that appointment went well - weight has never been measured for me - a good thing as I've put on 3 stone but still look quite petite as a slight build. Bump is absolutely massive though, and mw estimates 8ib today (ie. at 36 weeks...) No room left at all (ie, measuring fundal height 40 plus) so who knows how much longer I'll hang on. Trace of protein in urine but that might well be 'contamination' (after effects of canesten pessary ).
Glad to hear so much good news. Diege - I will cross my fingers for you. My dd was predicted 8lbs at 34 weeks. Had to stop work early then she was only 7:6 at birth, five weeks later. Morien - I got weighed and nagged here too. French people had no restraint about saying I was getting too fat (even my neighbours!!) but I put it on fast at the start, then it slowed. Your weight gain sounds fine. Oh and yes people were quite openly telling me to insist on an amnio cos of my age despite my nt being fine and my doc v experienced. Look after yourself - I am sure you're doing great.
Irish - my mum is being so strong. A real warrior, an inspiration. I'll be there in a week with dd who my dad is longing to see.
Good morning ladies, lovely to see lots of action on the thread.
Isadorable, how worrying for you, and frustrating because you are far away. Do you have siblings in the UK who are there for your mum and dad? It will be so nice for your dad to see your DD - I am sure she will be a great comfort to him. ((hugs))
Irish I am so, so, so happy that your scan went well. For me, getting to nine weeks will be a huge hurdle, so I do understand how you feel. I have a good feeling about this one for you.
Morien, I think you were quite restrained, I am not sure I would have been so polite! But these comments usually come when we least expect them and we are not prepared for them. It always amazes me how some people think it is ok to pry just because you are pregnant. Pregnancy does not make a woman public property. And the fact she touched your belly - wow! I would have been very
Deige, if I were in the UK I'd come and give you a hand. It's sad isn't it that our mums can't be more helpful, particularly when you are unwell? You know, when I had my DS, at my 38 week check, my doctor told me my son was "huge" and I worried that I would give birth to a 10 pounder. He was born 40+1 and weighing 8lbs 13. So, big, but not "huge". Unfortunately, I am short and my bump was very big and I had so many comments about my size by all and sundry, it nearly drove me bonkers. At my leaving (work) do I made a little speech and said, "FGS, stop telling me how "huge" I am, I already know! And, no, it isn't twins!" If I had a dollar for every time someone asked if it were twins, then, "are you sure?", I'd be a f*&^ing millionaire!
I always put weight on in the first trimester (so I just look like I ate all the pies rather than pregnant) because eating is the only thing that keeps the nausea at bay.
Well, I am trying to remain neutral about this tww, I keep telling myself that I am too old and it is practically hopeless. However, I had a temperature dip this morning, but that may have been because I woke at 4.30 and couldn't get back to sleep. It is 6 DPO, and on my D.S's chart I had a dip at 5 DPO, so maybe it is implantation? Maybe it is just because I awoke so early, maybe it means nothing at all?
This morning my DS told me he was sad that I couldn't give him a baby sister and wanted to know why. Gosh it was hard to hold it together. I told him that I was getting older and it is difficult to have a baby when you are this old. He said it "wasn't fair", and I agree, but didn't say as much and reminded him how lucky he is to have two older brothers and two older sisters. It is my heart's one true desire to give him a baby sister/brother
Uh oh. Today I have had some distinctive uterine crsmping, different to period pain. So now I am thinking implantation.Bugger. I was going quite well being hopeless!
Oh gum, your little boy - that must have been hard.
Actually I'm regretting having been so restrained! I really wish I'd told her it was none of her business. Even in English I'd have been unprepared but I'd have coped better - the problem is that although I speak French well, if I'm a bit rattled I know I lose any kind of nuance so can come across much more rudely than I mean to, so I tend to hold my tongue (not in my nature!) and then regret it. I don't know - is regretting what you don't say any better than regretting what you do say?
The 'excess weight gain' I just find a bit odd (even if I'm going to ignore it!) as it's literally the only nutritional or even lifestyle advice (other than toxoplasmosis precautions) I've been given (and to put it into context, I've always been a UK10 and I'm now a UK 10 maternity, and in no danger of having to go up a size). Surely a balanced diet, limited alcohol and caffeine, not smoking, doing some exercise, etc etc, are more important than putting on a couple of kilos?
Diege what's fundal height? I know I could google it but I'd rather a real person told me
Ooh, I hadn't seen your last post, gum - maybe hopeless was what was needed! Fingers crossed...
Please may I join you? Prambo directed me to this thread – thanks Prambo. I am a 39 soon to be a 40 year old TTC #2 for over 12 months now. I have a DS who is 6 and is the light of my life.
I’ve been diagnosed with secondary infertility and it seems that my only solution is to have IVF. Unfortunately my DH & I cannot afford the IVF just yet. We’ve calculated that we may be able to save for one cycle of IVF by the time I’m almost 42 In the meantime we TTC the natural way. We are both taking normal vitamin supplement and hoping that we will catch the egg.
I’ve had the following tests done and results were normal apart from my day 21 bloods which were a little low.
Had 2 day 21 tests – results were 24 & 26. GP wanted the figures to be over 30 though.
Ultrasound scan – to check my ovaries & womb
Hysterosalpingogram (HSG) – to check my tubes
I am due to see my GP next week to find out whether I can have any more fertility testing done on the NHS. I feel that there is more that can be done before brushing me with the second infertility label. Not sure what tests though!
I’ve only had 2 +ve preg tests. First time was when I was pregnant with my DS who was conceived on my first cycle of trying. And the second when I fell pregnant but ended up miscarrying at 6 weeks of pregnancy.
Anyhow,I just wanted to share my history before getting to know you all
gum that does sound very hopeful about the possible implantation pains - the right time and everything. Wouldn't it be lovely for your ds if it was to be your month? (and you of course!!)
morien fundal height is the measurement from top of the pelvic bone to top of uterus (when lying down), often taken with a tape measure by the mw in the UK. Totally unreliable, which so many factors influencing the reading, but they usually expect it to correspond approx. with gestation (so 28cm for 28 weeks). Can vary according to position of baby, height of mum, number of previous babies, but still they insist on doing it!
Welcome London, you'll find lots of great support and friendship here
And yay for good scan news on both sides of the Channel!
Irish, I know nothing about yolk sacs on scan, I had a doc here with my last kids who never said anything negative about scan results, only positives. Apart from the one time when he panicked w my baby being already 3,3kilos at 33 week and threatening me with Caesarian at week 36. I bought plain tickets ASAP and went into native country, where DS arrived at almost 42 weeks, calmly, and naturally,at 4,6 kilos. Now i know doctors here are used to smaller people (and babies) than up north, but really - do a Caesarian on an unsuspecting Nordic baby who had no idea about local weight restrictions:-)
Which brings me to say I really get ou Morien on weight thing. Here as well it seems to be the most important thing about pregnancy - not to gain weight more than 8-10 kilos. I blatantly ignored their advice both times. I have always gained more than 20, and my first 3 kids were a bit more than 3 kilos. last one had huge placenta, and since I suffered horrible cramps and slowly darkening hpt lines with him I now tend to think my uterus of death tried to get rid of him as well, but he held on to his dear life and I am so grateful I have him. Sometimes I look at him and think with horror what if my sad saga had started one kid earlier. And I think his huge placenta was a result of him fighting against my immune system thing to kick him out. My immunologist supports this theory, too. Question is do I get another fighter or not in this life?
I have cold, too. And started to bleed.
Diege thank you for the reassurance re the yolk sac. My next scan is on Wed,so the day after yours. I can understand you feeling you want to make a plan, at least if you know you're having a cs you can set a date and get organized.
gum I like your positive vibes, thank you! I so hope this is your month, I want to be bump buddies! That temp dip and cramping sounds very encouraging.
Isadorable your Mum sounds wonderful but you sound really strong too. I'm sure your parents are looking forward to seeing you and your dd and it will make a big difference having you there.
Morien when I was pregnant with my DS (20 years ago!!) I was weighed at every antenatal appointment but when I was expecting the DDs years later they had stopped doing it. As you say,as long as you're having a healthy lifestyle and diet I'm sure it's fine. As a point of interest, a girl from work (who is very well endowed normally) decided to weigh her breasts when pregnant a few months ago. Apparently she stood on the scales and weighed herself,then her DP supported the weight of the boobies and she subtracted ,not sure quite how scientific or accurate the experiment was, but the weight they came up with was 3kg!!!!!
I think you sounded very controlled and dignified dealing with your DSC's mother, she was very rude and intrusive but I suppose you want to keep things amicable for the sake of the DSC.
Welcome London !
You may be doing so already, but are you taking your temperature to chart your cycle and pinpoint ovulation? The day 21 blood test for progesterone is supposed to be 7 days post ovulation but assumes ovulation was on d 14. For some women it varies, my d21 bloods were actually taken on d23 because I knew exactly when I ovulated ,on d16.
I also had a blood test taken for AMH to check for ovarian reserve before we decided to ttc. It's not available on the NHS but I sent for a kit, brought it to my GP's surgery where the nurse took the blood for me and sent it off. Results were then sent back directly to me. The cost was about £50 I think.
Hi to everyone else x
Good Morning, and welcome London.
Morien, I am sorry about your cold and the bleeding. I truly hope you are able to carry another baby to term. I am sure you have researched all the options, but have you considered intralipid treatment ? A friend on another site was having the treatment for natural killer cells. I think it is controversial and expensive.
I really must buy some aspirin, I have run out and haven't been taking it in this tww. Who knows, it may make a difference, so I had better get some.
My chart isn't looking very attractive today. Unfortunately DS woke me at 4.30 as he'd wet the bed, so I got up to change the sheets, but forgot to take my temperature. It was freezing this morning, (you would never know it was spring, we've had nothing but cold,wind and rain since September 1st) and I couldn't get back to sleep. I took my temp anyway and it was so low it was below coverline. As far as I know an implantation dip doesn't last two days. I was hoping for a nice high temperature
But I am not going to be hopeful this month, right?
DS was talking about his "baby sister" again today. He does this with no prompting at all. He said that he saw her on my lap and wanted to know where she'd gone. Perhaps they are doing something at school, or one of the kids has a new baby in the family? I do recall one mum being due around now, and as I never take DS to school or pick him up (he catches a bus) I don't know if there are any new babies born.
I wish we hadn't woken so early, DH and I have to go out for a friend's 50th tonight. I'll be falling asleep before the second course!
I hope everyone is feeling good?
Calibee - we haven't heard from you for ages. I hope all is well in the N.I lovenest?
Morning Gum I would definitely discard that very low temperature (as would fertility friend). You were up and doing things, which is different from just waking up early. I always imagined this would raise a temp, but with me they were always lowered if I took too early. I remember googling it and found other people with the same thing. What cd are you now?
jass your situation sounds really complex. Are there any other treatments other than what you are doing already that the consultant has suggested? It must all be very, very stressful xx
irish not long till your next scan then, and after that presumably the booking in one. Did you say you had a mw appointment too? <excited>
Ok here, though sounding like a phlemy old man...honestly, sounds like a TB sanatorium in here at the moment. Lots of hacking coughs (other than dh). He came in last night from seeing his mum and sister a little 'worse for wear' shall we say (I was in bed), then proceeded to turn up volume of tv, fall asleep with glass of wine in hand. Woke up dd3 with the noise at 2am who then woke me up. Not impressed as couldn't get back to sleep Some shouting was done I shall say - if I had gone into labour he wouldn't have been fit to drive . Have sent him up to school with the dcs though, and no back chat received <hoists bosom>
Hope everyone is ok - can't wait for the weekend!
Hi everybody! london welcome on this lovely and caring thread!
isadorable I'm really sorry for your dad's illness, I hope you'll spend some good time with him when you go abroad..
jassI hope next one will be the fighter and will get rid of your immune system ..
For me it's still very early days, my dr suggested to book a CVS ..I booked it but I'm very uncertain on what to do...I wouldn't like to risk a mc because of the Cvs but I wouldn't like to know there're problems later in the pregnancy as last time(24th week )..
I'm also thinking about harmony test but it wouldn't detect everything..last time anomaly wouldn't have be detected..
I'm also scared to death to discuss these things with my DP as he would be adamant to terminate the pregnancy while I'm much more doubtful..I just hope I won't ever have to face such a decision again...
I'm sorry I don't post that often but this new job is quite energy and time consuming..looking forward christmas holidays...
Deige, I did discard the temperature. It certainly wasn't taken under the right circumstances.
This morning the temperature is up again. And I have woken with either a fresh cold or just stuffed up sinuses and a headache. Just what I want on my first day of holidays. It could also be hayfever as all the native plants are in full pollen at the moment. Beautiful, but rather annoying.
I have to admit to feeling more than slightly hopeful but I shall restrain myself and wait til 10 dpo to test. I am 8 dpo today.
Mozza, that is a difficult decision to make about the cvs. Whatever you decide, I hope you can feel peace with it, after what you have experienced, only you can know what is best to do. ((hugs))
Only yesterday I was researching the Harmony test (jumping the gun a bit, I know, but I did want to learn more about it anyway). I thought the test would be a great alternative to amnio, but learnt that it cannot detect all anomalies, so, in my case, being so old, I would bet I may have to have cvs or amnio anyway. I will worry about that decision when I am faced with the real prospect of having a baby. Right now I am still in "dreaming" mode.
Mozza, I hope the job isn't too stressful. I do know how time-consuming and energy sapping it can be.
Deige, I too would have been mightily annoyed with DH after that performance. Have you been able to tee up someone to look after the kids while you have the baby? Would MIL do it? How soon will you know if you need the C-section? Have you done all your nesting? When do you finish work?
We had a fun evening out last night and luckily it wasn't a late night (these oldies can't party like they used to!). The only problem was that rather than a sit down meal (which is what I thought it was) it was finger foods, and I swear, everything was coated in batter! So, you see, I am gluten intolerant, and firstly they brought out pizza. I ate the topping and left the base behind. Then, they brought out seafood, all coated in batter, so I was trying to peel batter off hot seafood! I gave up after a bit and came home hungry! Had I known it was that kind of thing I would have eaten before we went out or phoned ahead to ask for some gluten free options. I guess my friend/colleague (whose birthday it was) had forgotten about me being gluten intolerant. Besides, I didn't want to make a fuss, it was just a bit of a drag. I only had one champagne, so I felt fine.
It's a big day in Australia today - the AFL (Australian Football League) Grand Final. It is HUGE here. And this year, for the first time in a very long time a Western Australian team is in the grand final. So it will be all about the football today. DH and DS2 are very excited, and I have to admit, though not normally a fan, I am very excited too. After watching the final on the telly we'll head over to a friend's place for a BBQ and celebrations or commiserations.
Have a wonderful weekend everyone.
Hello to all...
hopeful thank you for remembering me, I do pop in and catch up with all your news every few days. I only don't post as much, as to be honest I don't feel particularly positive about ttc just now
Congrats to all those newly bfpd...I wish you all very healthy sticky wee babies.
Comiserations to those who are not having such good time of it.
For me...I'm now on cd60 of a complete wtf cycle. Even provera hasn't worked.I have had several periods of +opk's and ewcm alas no temp rise. To be honest I feel completely poo. I had been waiting for af to arrive to present myself on cd3 for repeated tests with my new GP before she could refer me to fertility clinic over here in NIreland. In its absence I presented myself anyway yesterday and preceded to blart and snuffle my way through the appointment. She has however told me to go ahead and take a second course of provera and I am having
notcd3 tests next Tuesday to have a look at hormone levels as they stand now.
I learned this week that DH will be off to Afghanistan for a six month tour from September next year. In my mind ...that is the time I have left to conceive naturally. Just one year!!!
So apart from that...I miss my DC's like crazy. I was flicking through tv menu's the other day and saw The Fox and the Hound was on. This was dd2's favourite....more tears from me. Dd1 is just a few weeks from the birth of my Grandson, and bless her she isn't feeling too well. We Tango'd (facetalked) on our phones this week and she looks pale and puffy ....I feel so far away. And DS...hmm, getting a conversation from him is like pulling water from a stone. I text..he ignores, I call and I get one word replies. I have to smile...he has never been any different but it is difficult. I end up grilling the girls as to what he is up to. He is coming to visit at half term at the end of October..I cant wait. Hopefully we can find plenty to do. They filmed the latest series of Game of Thrones (series 4 coming soon) about 10 miles away from where I live and the castle they constructed is still up so hopefully we can go to see that and perhaps a days shopping in Belfast.
Still no luck on the job hunting front. I went for an interview last week for a job in a Prison.....an hour and a bit journey away and for a band lower than I am qualified for. Dare I say I dont want it?? So not too disappointed that I have heard nothing as yet. I felt more qaulified than the interviewing panel. If I 'm going to do a "work-just-for-money" job I would at least prefer it to be closer to home.
I'm still settling into life on camp here. Most of the wives are very young with little life experience. They fill their their time at the on-camp coffee-pot gossiping about each other and babies and pregnancy. Sighs. The other day I found myself sitting between two Mums having a full scale slanging match because their children had a hair-pulling/scratching fight on the school bus. Sooo damn tedious. If I wasn't still the "new wife" I would have slammed their ruddy heads together. My guess is that the dear children will be best of friends by now, whilst their Mums filthy look each other from opposite sides of a coffee mug. There was a rather good rugby match later on that afternoon though. I do love a bit of live rugby ....and the Royal Horse Gaurds v The Rifles was pretty damn good. [cheeky smile emoticon] Hehehehe. I am missing grown up company though...female company that is. Dh is great but he pussyfoots around the ttc convo a little for fear of pressuring me. He had a birthday last week...so for just a few months there are less than 2 decades between us .
Have a fantastic weekend ladies. The sun is shining here so I will hang out my washing and walk the hound on the beach. x
Calibee things sounds really tough for you on several levels I . think you are doing everything you can do tbh to figure out any fertility issues, and I really hope your NI dr. is able to suggest something encouraging. Did you still have an appointment in England to attend? My sister also found the atmosphere amongst the camp wives a bit smothering, and as one of the 'newcomers' did find it took her several months to become part of the 'scene'. She was still working while most of the other wives didn't, and I think this was part of the 'problem' in that she missed out on daytime stuff (not especially riveting!). If you do the nails business I'm sure you'd get an instant 'in', plus you would hold all the cards gossip-wise . When do you hear for sure about the prison job?
Gum your life is a social whirl! That must have been frustrating food-wise last night - hope you get some better options at tonight's BBQ. I'm veggie and remember once being served a white roll with tomato ketchup at a BBQ and being less than impressed. I always take along some quorn these days.
Will find out about the section next week. Scan on Tuesday to see if placenta has 'risen', then seeing consultant on Thursday to make a clinical decision. The issue is that placenta is not actually covering the cervix, and is to the side (lateral). If there's enough 'clearance' they may well suggest a vaginal birth (my preference). Baby is also very well positioned with head very low down (which wasn't the case with my 'big' ds1). At least I will be armed with more information this time next week.
Work has technically finished now but as I was ill last week and didn't go in on my last 'office' day I do need to go in on Monday just to collect some bits and bobs and also meet with one student and the boss....After that, busy with hosp appointments, hair appoint, pedicure on thurs before singing group etc. I am planning on going to the cinema in the day on my own a week Tuesday, and then I will be ready . Nesting-wise, I have stared witheringly into the bottom of the washing basket (handwash stuff, natch) but that's about it...
Better go - dcs asking for scoobie Doo video (yes, VIDEO!!!) to be put on. Love to all xxx
Oh and still an impasse on childcare cover...a friend across the road has given me her number if I need her to come over middle of night, but think she means just so dh can drive me to hospital and then come back straight away....
Cali, it is nice to hear from you. Sorry you are having a difficult time. I would find the WTF cycle so frustrating. I hope you can get some insight from the tests.
It will be lovely to see your son when he comes over. How exciting that Game of Thrones was made nearby. Did you get to see any of the actors hanging around? Years ago, I lived in Canada and a film was made very near where I lived, out in the Canadian forest, with Charlie Sheen in it. We would go and sit up on the hill and watch them filming. Had to use binoculars to really see anything Was a bit of excitement out in the wilderness though
It must be difficult to be far away from your daughter when she's close to having her baby. ((hugs))
It think what Deige says is very wise. I reckon you'd soon be popular doing the ladies' nails. But I do understand how hard it must be, I would feel just like you do, with only young mums and children to fill your day. And I do feel for you with DH having to go off to Afganistan next year. I hope you'll have a wee baby or at least one in your belly by then.
Deige, I like your plans next week. Particularly the getting hair done, singing group (are we sisters???),pedicure and a movie on your own. Bliss! And it is just as it should be. Make sure you get some rest in there somewhere before littlestdiege arrives. Wow! You are so close now.
I hope your nieghbour will be generous enough to allow your Dh to be there for the birth!
I still have my fingers,toes,etc,etc crossed that I will be pregnant same time as you, even if only for a few days
You know how I said I'd wait til 10 Dpo to test? Well, I didn't (no surprises there). I did an internet cheapie this morning and I thought it might actually have a very faint line on it. But I am far from celebrating, as it looks more like an evap line and is more grey than pink. I think to anyone else, it would look negative. So until I get a super obvious positive, I will not be celebrating
Unfortunately our team didn't win the grand final yesterday. A bit disappointed, but also very proud of them coming up from the position of the underdog. We are all hoping next year will be their year.
We went to our friend's place for the bbq after the game in the afternoon, and we were back home at 6:30! DH and I were so tired, we could barely stay awake. Sad old bastards,aren't we? I am very grateful that I have nothing social organised for a while. Honestly a few nights in with my knitting and the telly sounds like bliss. At least I have spring break now, no school for two weeks! Yippee! However, I have booked DS and DD into swimming lessons starting Tuesday for 9 days. What was I thinking.......Oh yes, that's right, I want them to be able to swim capably as we live right near the beach and I'd prefer they didn't drown
Hi hopefully I didn't realise your in WA, I live in Shenton park and have a horrible feeling I've got myself knocked up with number five at the age of 38.
Mosman, does a "horrible feeling" mean you have done a test? You know all the ladies on this thread who haven't had a BFP will be at you getting knocked up accidentally! I'll have your bfp if you don't want it!
Would it be a bad thing?
Anyway, congratulations if you are pregnant.
And at the age of 38? You are positively a spring chicken compared to me!
Very new relationship that's all .... 38 doesn't feel you g but I guess it's all relative. I'll keep the BFP if I get one may need to get over the shock before I start smiling about it though.
Mosman, do a test. Men come and go, babies are for real:-)
I've already planned in my mind what I'll do if he reacts badly - smile sweetly and say thank you for the sperm and walk off.
Oooo quietly excited for you hopeful. And thank you diege for the kind words. If i am bluntly honest I have no desire to "fit"in with the wives....but female company is a must for me so for now I will keep stum lol.
Yes I have an appointment with fertility clinic in England at the end of November. I was happy to be 3 stone lighter so Icould stick a middle finger up at my porky little consultant....however my new lifestyle has brought about a renewed urge to bake (blush). Hmmmm.
I have to say though,that despite all the trials and tribulations of my new life and aging body, that I do feel the stress (I suspect mostly work related) beginning to ease. For the first time in years i am enjoying getting into bed and not having to worry about facing work the next day and i have lost that "sunday blues" feeling that used to cloud my Sunday evenings.....infact i have only 3 things missing from my life...my thb, my dc's and a few extra pennes to make the previous 2 lacks a little easier to obtain....smile x
Hi guys, I wondered if I could join you - feeling pretty miserable this evening and could do with some wise words. i've been lurking on this thread a while - following all your journeys, but wasn't ready to post myself til now.
We are TTC our third child. I'm 42 - had DD at 36 and DS at 38. After the first two I wasn't sure about a third due to circumstances so we put it off, then decided to go for it a year ago and I had two early MCs within 5 months - it was then that I really knew I wanted a third. Unfortunately after that we had a 6 month break from TTC - i broke my wrist and needed an operation and many xrays over a few months. After that we left it anothr two months because the due date would have clashed with us having to be out of our house for a couple of months (seems so trivial now!).
So we've been trying again with intent for 4 months, but it's made complicated by DH being away a lot (Long haul pilot). So some months he's just not here. My hopes were up this month as AF was late, but I she arrived today, and for some reason, I'm feeling so sad about it all. I am so cross with ourselves we took so long to make our minds up to try for another. I torture myself with statistics and I know I'm perimenopausal as my cycles have been shortening - I feel like I'm just kidding myself even trying, esp as DH's roster is out of our control, but then I don't know how to start coming to terms with deciding that's the end of the road.
Before I give up I just wanted a bit of advice - is it ridiculous to go to the doctor to ask for help even though it's my own fault we waited this long, and I do already have two beautiful children? Also has anyone tried acupuncture? And finally, does anyone have any advice of suppliments to take?
Hopefully it's just a bad day today, and I'll feel more on an even keel and accepting tomorrow, It's probably exacerbated by DS now at school full time and me missing him.
Thanks for listening! Have a good evening everyone x
Good morning ladies.
Welcome RainyAfternoon. I can really relate to what you are saying about wishing you'd started trying earlier. But I think you still have a great chance, as you are only 42 and there is still time. I guess it must be pretty difficult with DH away so much. Have you considered something like IUI (rather than IVF) - if you could have your DH's sperm frozen, so that if he's away you could still have IUI and get the sperm into the right place at the right time.
Personally, I do not think it is ridiculous to talk to a doctor about this, but it does depend on what you hope to get from your doctor. I think it is better to go there knowing what you want so that you aren't fobbed off. Ask for the usual tests : day 3 blood tests -FSH, Estrogen and then the day 21 test (should be called the 7 DPO test) for progesterone. You can also have the AMH test which looks at ovarian reserve. That test can be a bit of a downer if it comes back "low". Mine did, and for a while I was quite depressed. Since then I have fallen pregnant (but also miscarried). But I do realise the tests, though they do give us some idea of what's going on, don't tell the whole story. My younger sister had day 3 tests, and whilst sat in her doctor's office, being told it was impossible for her to get pregnant, was able to hand over a positive pregnancy test and say, "I think you are wrong" She had a son, then another one shortly afterwards.
There are other things that the doc can do - you can have one of those things (HSG??) that looks at if your tubes are clear,you can take clomid to stimulate ovulation (but if you are already ovulating, you probably don't need it) and you can have follicle tracking done to see exactly when you ovulate. But I am not sure your GP will do that, you'd probably have to go private and pay for it.
Having said all that, I have been in your shoes (not completely, as my DH doesn't work away) and I went to my GP looking for help, only to be told, after all my tests, that she wouldn't prescribe clomid for me, she botched up prescribing progesterone, and in the end has said, just keep trying, you might just catch a healthy egg. I think, she doesn't really believe I will, and thinks it is too late for me. She's probably right as I am almost 47, but you are much younger, so I think there's still time for you.
Of course there's plenty you can do for yourself. I love acupuncture. Clearly it hasn't got me knocked up, but it does help me relax and I don't seem to get sick very often. My acupuncturist is a lovely older women who is wise,loving and caring, and almost a counselor to me. I do think acupuncture is great for fertility. Who knows, perhaps I wouldn't have had my DS at 41 without it? It has also sorted out painful periods for me.
As for supplements, there's a huge amount of advice on the net, and I have read tonnes of it The latest thing is to take high doses of Co q 10, and the best way to get it is in the form of Ubiquinol. Of course taking folic acid or prenatals is good, also I have heard that royal jelly is good, DHEA (that one is a bit contraversial as it is a form of testosterone and can cause hormone imbalances), fermented fish oil, vitamin d (You could have your level checked by the gp) and there's probably more which I can't recall right now. I have been taking Zita West Vitafem because I am sick of taking a dozen or so supplements and almost everything is in the Zita ones. They are expensive though.I am also taking Coq10 when I remember. These days I am a bit slack on the sups, but I think it is because I have been ttc for 4 years and it's become a bit tedious.
Are you charting? I think that can be helpful, but not everyone likes doing it and it can add to the "obsessive" nature of ttc. Do you have a fertility monitor or use OPKs? Both will help pinpoint you ovulation, and if your cycles are changing, then that's a good idea.
As for me, this cycle was not the one Clearly a BFN this morning and a huge temperature drop. I do feel sad, and PMS is going to hit me soon I think, I am glad DH,DD1 and DS2 are all heading off for a few days away. I will still have DD2 and DS3 at home, but I don't want DH to see how upset I am feeling. It's all a bit heart-breaking and shit to keep trying month after frigging month for so damned long and still not get my thb. I know I say this every cycle, so please don't read on if you are sick of my moaning (I would be ). I have always been the kind of person who was rewarded for tenacity. Everything I have truly wanted, I have gone after it with vigour and determination and have eventually got there. But this precious last baby is just eluding me. I've done everything I can, and I keep getting up and trying again. Then I get to this part of my cycle, 10 dpo and another bfn and feel exhausted and like I cannot go on trying. But I can't seem to give up trying either.
I know to most people it would seem stupid to keep doing this (what's the definiton of insanity? To keep doing something that hurts you), especially as I already have five children. I love and appreciate them, I don't take them for granted, I just feel that I am meant to have a 6th and last child to complete my family.
I suppose I have to let go of this mad desire at some point?
My acupuncturist tells me that in traditional Chinese medicine they consider a woman able to have kids, if her body is healthy and balanced, until she is 49. So I guess I still have time.
If you have read this far, you deserve
Thank you hopeful for such a thoughtful and detailed response. Especially when you have had such a difficult day yourself. I really appreciate it. I know it's a bit cheeky to piggyback on other people's internet research, but I find it hard to figure out whats what sometimes, so thank you.
I will make a doctor's appt and I'm keen on seeing some kind of alternative therapist too as I'm feeling a bit out of a balance and stressed so that won't be helping.
I hope you have a peaceful day. Have you thought of counselling to help you deal with the cycle of trying? I think it's such an internalised thing as you are the only one that feels every twinge of your cycle. My DH has no idea what's going on in my head half the time, I do wonder sometimes if I should go talk to someone... and then I think I'll just give it a few more months first...
Of to sleep now x
Hi, I've visited here on and off, can't remember if I've visited under this name before. It's been so tough, I was naturally a very positive, silver lining, kind of person, but the process of trying to have a baby has depressed me to the point of questioning the meaning of it all, so I struggle to maintain presence on a thread.
I had three mc's all about 5/6 months apart, all discovered at 12 weeks, those awful scans. I was then offered the consultation care you "get" with having achieved 3 mc's, but since then I haven't been able to get pregnant. It's been over a year now since my last pregnancy. For the most part, even though we were trying, I have been seriously depressed so maybe it wouldn't have been a good time to get pregnant, who knows.
Anyway, I am feeling stronger. The last couple of months I've made some positive changes and have found that this month I am much more positive about trying. We've given it a really good shot this month and I was looking on MN for some words of wisdom and just wanted to write a thank you to Hopefulglum for the Inconceivable book recommendation. I've just purchased it for my long haul flight Friday and am looking forward to taking in something more positive.
Good luck to you all.
Hello, lifesgreatquestions, I don't remember you, perhaps you had a different name before? I am so sorry that you have had to deal with three losses. Yes, it certainly makes you question everything. Like you, it has been over a year since my last pregnancy too. I hope the book gives you a sense of hope, I thought it was very good.
Despite my tale of woe post yesterday, I had a good day. I got our into the garden and spent a few hours pulling weeds and tidying up garden beds. It was just what I needed. Later I watched a movie with DD2- "The Notebook", so that was a very good excuse to have a good cry. Then DD2 and DS3 and I took a long walk on the beach, which was lovely. I have much to be grateful for. I would have been very,very happy if I'd had a bfp this month, but it seems very unlikely now.
My temperature went up again this morning, but my boobs have lost all tenderness, I had another bfn, which I fully expected, and have started spotting. Seems my LP is lessening - another sign of impending menopause. Perhaps it really is too late for me. However, as long as it appears I am still ovulating, I will still have a go at it.
Diege, you have been quiet - have you gone into labour and had your baby? Or are you just too exhausted and busy? Your scan is today - let us know how it went.
First day of swimming lessons today. We are going to be tired later on! Which is great, an early night for DS!
Morning lifesgreatquestions so sorry for your mcs, but glad that you got some comfort from Gums recommended book xx
Gum I was really surprised to see you got a bfp - I was sure this month you would be in luck Hoping that you feel a little better today xx Yes, I have my scan this afternoon where I am sure the placenta will still be low...obviously my uterus is growing 'upwards' but some reason the pesky placenta doesn't seem to be moving upwards with it...Nothing I can do of course and at least I will know what's happening delivery-wise after today.
It was my last day at work yesterday which is a relief, though still a few ongoing work issues that I am going to try not to engage in (must not check e-mails!!!) Hoping to wind down over the next few days, though in some ways being at home is more tiring as have more drop offs/pick ups from childminders/school etc...Can't complain though!
Love to all xxx
Thank you for your welcome and for having me here.
It's been interesting and very informative reading about your TTC journeys. had finally accepted that DC2 will not happen naturally & resigned myself to having IVF and possibly even donor eggs. I have been throught the rage and unfairness stages and the why me tirade. I guess you can say that I made peace with my body for not giving me DC2.
But now for the very first time in my life I believe in miracles! I hope you do not mind but after TTC for 13 cycles & been diagnosed with secondary infertility , I have got my BFP yesterday. I still can't believe and it seems unreal. I'm so nervous of having another miscarriage (had one 2 years ago and have been TTC ever since). I'm not going to relax or believe this until i pass the 8 week stage, that's when my previous miscarrage was.
I wish the bestest of luck to you all in your TTC journey.
PS sorry for any spelling errors - i'm on my phone.
Haven’t been on for a while and so much as happened on the thread I can’t
catch up just yet - so just to say a massive CONGRATULATIONS
to the newly BFP’d amongst us. Really brilliant news. And so
sorry that it has been so tough for a few with both TTC and other life
stuff –life can be very trying some times. Welcome to all those who
have recently joined us – this is a lovely supportive thread, full of
lovely ladies who are both wise and great at hand holding during the
difficult times (but hope you won’t have any difficult times!)
So after my loooooooooong interminable WTF cycle after my ERPC in June
where I finally O’d on CD67, my next cycle has been nearly as nuts.
I/Fertility Friend “thinks” I O’d on CD33 after multiple LH surges
(calibee you have my sympathy - it is so frustrating isn’t it when our
bodies don’t behave as they should ). DP and I have been shagging
ourselves silly hoping for another cheeky BFP just before we start IVF (and
one that makes it this time would be nice) but as I kept having surges but
not ovulating we had to keep going - DTD 20 times in the 29 days since my
AF finished – not bad for such oldies . As it is now 3DPO we are
looking forward to the rest.
So now in the 2WW but to be fair I don’t hold out much hope but we have
done everything we could before IVF starts. So I have go to call them on
CD1 then go in on CD2 for a scan and have my first of my daily injections
and off we go. Have not been doing the acupuncture bit (v expensive) but
might take it back up again. Has anyone tried reflexology?
I have found things a bit tough since the miscarriage – think I am doing OK
then burst into tears randomly and things have been a bit challenging at
work. Two of my team announced their pregnancies one after the other and
then one miscarried at 8 weeks. It brought back the pain of it all back in
a big rush . But then my solid and rambunctious 18-month nephew was
sat on my knee the other day and he suddenly leaned over gave me a big
sloppy (and snotty) kiss – it reminded me of why I keep going, god I really
want a baby - I don't just want to be an Auntie!! I heard a saying the
other day – “The greater the challenge; the sweeter the victory”. Maybe
this should be the thread motto!
Ps. good luck with your scan diege hope your placenta is behaving itself!
Pps. hopeful sorry about your BFN -think your time must surely be soon
Aww, thanks Diege, you know I thought I would be lucky this month too but it looks unlikely.Let us know how your scan goes.
London many congratulations, you must be so excited!
Green Good to see you - I like the new thread motto Sounds like you have done your best for this month, and with the ivf lined up you are certainly giving it your all xxx
Well, placenta is most certainly NOT behaving itself. Still low, and if anything even lower, now covering cervical os and less than 2cm from cervix. Baby's head is also right above it...So, almost definite section for me; will confirm after consultant appointment on Thursday. Feeling irrationally disappointed if I'm honest, as if I'm missing out the key stage of the pregnancy - I'm sure I'll feel brighter in a day or two, and hardly a concern for most of us on a ttc thread either and baby following growth curve, slowing down slightly - 3646g today! <needs to convert>
I , think that works out at about 8ib 3oz (37 wks) , so possibly tipping 9 pounds by 39 weeks?
Sorry London, I didn't see your message earlier when I replied to Diege. congratulations! How wonderful for you.
Diege, I am sorry the placenta isn't behaving. Like you I would feel the same way, labour is all part of the process, but in the end, you and baby will be safe,and that's really what matters. A 9 pounder, 'eh! I bet he will be a good feeder!
Hello greenlizard. Your marathon of shagging is amazing! I hope you will be rewarded with a bfp and baby, but if not, you have the reassurance of the IVF coming up.
Irish, come and tell us how your scan went today.
Swimming lessons went well yesterday. The kids had a great time, I swam my 50 laps, and we came home tired and happy.
Warning - don't read on if you don't want to hear my venting about ttc...
My spotting hasn't yet turned into AF. And my temperature is still up. Unfortunately that means I am being irrationally hopeful.Here's my chart, if you want to analyse it I also had a dream this morning where I was shopping in the supermarket, with a baby girl. However, she wasn't my daughter and I don't who she belonged to, but I was looking after her. It has just brought home that the baby isn't mine and I don't know that there ever will be one for me.
It has been 18 cycles of trying since my last miscarriage. I have to admit after another BFN this morning I have had a little cry. I know it sounds wrong to say it isn't fair, because I have 5 beautiful healthy children already. But right now it doesn't feel very fair, after the hard work of ttc month after month for so long.
It is funny - DS is watching "Yo Gabba Gabba" behind me and they are singing a song " Keep trying, keep trying, don't give up, don't stop..." Ah geeze, that's all I need!
Congratulations to London and best of luck for Green first for bfp and if that provides elusive, then for IVF.
Af nearly gone here, but it is behaving weirdly, as always after Chem. need patience, I guess. But am seriously short of it......
Shaggaton does not look fun as well, were it to bein soon. But maybe the OV will be a bit later in his cycle.
Calibee, hope you are not too bored - feeling rested and relaxed is good, but I guess at one point it gets a bit lonely. Lets hope anBFP would help:-)
I hope Morien is doing well, have not heard from her long time now.
Hopefulgum, I also still have hope for you, if AF is not properly here.
I went to Vienna for opera performance this week, was great relaxation, opera, then Lantmann cafe etc.... But it did not make me feel I am better off without a baby in a tow. I hoped it would.....
Thank you jass...and yes a bfp would help. I've had a few days of trying to convince myself that the negatives of a baby outway the positive. Who am I trying to kid????
green lovely to hear from you....fingers crossed for a bfp in a few days time.
hopeful i can always physically feel your feeling when you write.....probably because I absolutely understand them.
I'm loving the motto too....i'm going to keep it in mind.
diege that must be disappointing re naughty placenta. I guess try to focus on the positive....you are nearing the end of this part of the journey
irish hoping all is good with you and jbrd ...are all your tests done now?
I'm on about cd64 now( losing count) and into another course of provera. Blood taken yesterday so will be interesting to see what they say.
I was awake at silly-o-clock this morning with a pounding headache. DH has "another" cold....and boy do I know about it. So rather than lie and listen to his snortling I am wrapped in my teddy-bear blanket on the sofa catching up with saved episodes of The Midwives and Downton Abbey. Its howling wind and rain outside and I think i may just stay put for awhile yet
Hi Cali and Jass.
Just to make life interesting, but also bloody , I peed on a stick when I got in after swimming today and I got a friggin second line. Trouble is, it doesn't look quite right and I am going to have try to pretend it didn't happen. It is pink, but the dye seems to be awash over the whole test.
I'll pop a pic into my profile. I am pretty sure this is just a dud,sent to try my patience, but I still don't have Af, and temp was reasonable this am.
However, my boobs aren't even a wee bit sore and I just don't believe it.
Have a look and tell me to stop being stupid.
The image will be tiny. You can also see it here
Yes, too, too tiny on my profile. Don't even bother.
Bloody hell gum that's a clear positive on the link - I saw the second line straight away without any squinting or screen adjusting!!!! I know what you are saying re: not feeling hopeful etc, but there is clearly something going on, which I understand may be both massively exciting but also extremely stressful at the same time. Keep us updated!
Jass sounds very glam your opera evening in Vienna! Can see why a shaggathon wouldn't be too appealing just now - as you say, maybe a few more weeks, but understand how stressful the whole thing is for you
Calibee I'd stay exactly where you are if I were you - hope the headache clears soon - do you have strong meds? - and that dh's man flu is bearable (for you!)
Still feeling a bit bleughh about the section, but at the same time I know it is the only option and that both myself and baby could die if an attempted vaginal delivery was attempted. The prize will be worth it and I can't wait now to see my not so little baby boy. Hope it's ok posting about imminent babies etc on here - I remember being quite cheered to read positive stories, but please tell me to tone it down if not!
Woah there hopeful that looks like a line to me! Can you get hold of a FRER and use FMU tomorrow????
I really hope you don't mind me temporarily gate-crashing your thread but I just wanted to send huge congratulations to London on her BFP.
I shall be keeping all my fingers and toes crossed for you London and I can totally understand your anxiety at this stage.
You were an amazing support to me when I was embarking on ttc no. 2 after a miscarriage and I've thought of you often. Thank you
<slips quietly away>
Oh thanks for the replies. Really, really don't want to get excited at this stage. How on earth can I get a totally white BFN this morning, then this? Is it even possible? Green, I won't be able to get my hands onto a FRER til the afternoon, and even then it will be tricky as I will have DD and DS with me. I also have acupuncture tomorrow afternoon, so I want to have an idea before she shoves the needles in. Why would the breast tenderness evaporate if it is a BFP? I have 100's of internet strips, so I'll do another in the morning. Also, the temperature should give me a heads up in the morning too.
This is really a bit cruel if that's a pretend BFP. Surely the Gods are not that unkind
Gum were the 2 tests (the bfn and the bfp) the same brand/batch? I was reading on another thread (where someone got a bfn and a bfp with the same urine sample and same brand of test) that if the hcg level is just enough to show a pregnancy it could be the case the the bfn stick had slightly lower levels of dye, if that makes sense? It's a tricky position you're in - is it better to have the knowledge that something did happen briefly, but then have a bfn/af next day, or better not to have had any hope at all? Also if your spotting is implantation then you would expect, at the very best, only a shadow of a line now, if anything at all. You are so strong and will deal with whatever the outcome is, but I am hoping and praying that this is it for you - we would be bump buddies for about 13 days
Have the hairdresser coming at 2pm for a 4hr appointment . I'm going lighter for my base colour (the grey is getting too hard to cover) and then will have a mixture of lowlights and highlights. Just hope nothing happens baby-wise during - I'll be damned if I'm washing out foils too early - hospital would have to rinse it off for me!
hopeful how bloody well exciting. I just read about your possible line on my phone and have fired up the computer (still sooo damn slow) to take a peek at your test. Alas the pic is so small all I can see is a blurrr. Please please take another test and let us know.
Waiting with baited breath.................
Calibee I have a thread over at fertility friend and if you scroll down I have put a better picture on there.
The thread is here
it is now past my bedtime, so I am going to snuggle down with P.D.James and get my mind off it.
Hopefulgum - hi there, I just had a peak at the picture, and I am sorry to say, that I have had a couple of ones like this in the past, where it looks like a positive, but there is this blur of the dye instead of clear cut edges to the positive. It has always proven to be a negative result with me, a dodgy test. I had one particular batch of the internet cheapies where several of them gave this wierd misleading result. Obviously you are testing early and it could yet be the cycle that finally brings the dream, so I hope I am not bringing a down mood on your hope. I just wanted to let you know my experience of this result.
Your chart looks good, so there is still a good chance from this month!
Hopeful, I couldn't enter the page on fertility friend but I'm hopeful it's a true BFP for you.. I also had a feeling this was your month! .. and you look so young on the photos on your profile.. are you really sure you're 46????
If I go on with being a teacher, I'm afraid all my black hairs will turn white soon.. they're driving me crazy.. ..
Thanks Galwaygal _ that's exactly what I thought. Part of me wanted it to be a real BFP, but the rational part of me knows it is not a BFP.
I had a big temperature drop this morning (though still not under coverline) and a clearly negative HPT. I think AF will show soon. And it is okay, because I don't actually feel pregnant. I have always felt it,with all my pregnancies, in the past, not just from symptoms, there was something else, and I certainly don't feel it now.
Thanks, mozzarella for the compliment about my picture. In actual fact, that photo does make me look young, I find that the selfies taken from the computer camera are quite flattering. I don't look anything like that in real life,and I can assure you, I have a tonne of grey hair which I dye! In fact, once AF turns up, I will be getting the roots touched up again. BNot to mention wrinkles! The Australian sun is pretty harsh on the skin and I've been enjoying it for a long time now!
Sorry to hear that the students are driving you crazy. I hope it gets better for you.
Good evening, ladies! Quick hello from me, I shouldn't be on here, I need to pack! Off to Vienna tomorrow for a long weekend... Hope it'll be nice - it's a lovely city, but I'm going with my family, which could be a hit-and-miss. Fingers crossed we'll manage to have a good time. DH is staying home with DS, so it'll be adults-only.
I do need a break, work has been completely mental. I couldn't go away at a worse time, but it was booked a long time ago, so nothing I can do
Nothing really to report on the ttc front here - I'm waiting for my appointment with the consultant in November, to go over everything. Currently thinking if I should pay to get the AMH test done - it's not part of the NHS tests for recurring mc, but it might be useful to know what my eggs are like. I'm also a bit because the NHS tests did not include the CD21 blood test, they only wanted the CD2-5 one. Apparently, that's a new thing, a friend of mine had both for her mc just a few months ago, at the same hospital. CD21 will be next Wednesday for me, so I really need to make up my mind and call the private clinic tomorrow...
Other than that, I'm having a break from ttc, well and truly. Which is nice, I am really focussed on other things to take my mind off, but at the same time, I'm nervous about what will happen...
Anyway, waving to you all, will check back with everyone properly when I'm back in the country next week!
PS: gum - have you tested again?!? I will be checking this thread on the train to the airport tomorrow... I have to say I'm in the can't-see-a-line camp, but would be more than delighted to be proven wrong
Diege I hope you are ok and coming to terms with the csection! When is it??? xxx
gum as always I read your posts and root for you. As we have said before ttc seems to be a tiring and sometimes heartbreaking business and I always have admired your strength. I hope that today you find out the answer for this month (and it is a BFP !)xxx
Jbrd lovely to hear from you!!! have a wonderful trip and I might be inclined to pay privately (if possible ) for the extra test..xxx
Hello to London,Jass,Irish,Caibee, Isabeller, greenlizard,Mozzarella !!!
Gum what a rollarcoaster... I really hope that bfp is just around the corner with the next test, but would probably feel the same as you. The next or so (temp-wise) will be revealing. Are you still spotting?
jbrd it really sounds like you deserve that break! Have a wonderful time, and fingers crossed your up-coming appointment is helpful. It does seem that there's a lot of variability in what's done test-wise, and where.
notsoold Hi! Think you're just a day or so behind me? How are you feeling? Feeling ok about section now - seeing consultant this afternoon so will try and make sure I get all my questions out. My sister's a mw and she says that a trial of labour can sometimes place with placenta praevia, but that in her prof opinion she would never chance it...In a way I hope the consultant gives me absolutely no options as that way I'll get used to the idea far quicker. Also wondering when the section might be - had thought 39 wks but others are given 38 weeks as date which would mean next week - eeek, too soon!!!!
Hello everyone. I haven't posted for a while as was getting a bit disheartened with the whole TTC business but have been keeping up to date with you all.
Big congrats to all those who have got a bfp recently - I am so pleased for you all. Gum, I have everything crossed for you too!
Jbird - hope you have a lovely break.
It is my birthday today and my period is 2 days late. I also have a funny taste in my mouth but I am trying not to get my hopes up as I am sure AF is just round the corner.
2minds, if you are two days late, why haven't you tested??! It sounds like you could get good news.Keep us posted.
Well, it is as I thought. AF started this morning. It's a relief in some ways, but,you know, I would have been much happier with a proper BFP. I think my Estrogen is low, which wouldn't be surprising at my age, so I think I will take the red clover tablets before ovulation and see if that helps. My periods are light and short, which means the lining is probably thin, and I really believe that I am conceiving but not able to implant properly. I could be wrong, but I just think that the two ERPC's I had may have caused some damage and the lining isn't thick enough.And lower estrogen will cause a thin lining. That's my theory. I have discussed it with the doctor but she wasn't much help, and it seems to me she really doesn't know how to deal with it and wants to send me to a fertility clinic. But how on earth can I go there when my DH is not on board 100%? I just have to go the natural route and hope it works. I still have the clomid in the cupboard, but I know it causes a lack of CM and thin lining, so it wouldn't really help me would it? I seem to be ovulating (according to temperatures, I have no real proof) so I don't think clomid is the answer.
I want to be positive, but the truth is, I am feeling sad about my dream slipping away.
How are you feeling notsoold? You must be getting very excited about meeting your LO.
Deige, you might have that baby very soon! They usually do C-sections at 38 weeks. So exciting that your LO will be here soon.
Jbrd, I hope you have a lovely trip.
Gm, sorry for AF. Lining issues can be caused by wrong ratio of estrogen/progesterone, and orally it is the low progesterone what moves the ratio off. So, at our age, even soy products are not suggested for fertility diet, for the fear of pushing estrogen levels up, and causing the wrong ratio. On the other hand, if you plan to use only natural supplements, trying whatever might be worth it, no doctor will know exactly what goes on with you. They simply do not, so maybe you are not so missing out on fertility docs and all this action. I feel much better now that I do not run to doc for every chemical or early loss. I only keep my progesterone and pred supplements n hand and thats it. It feels lower stress, a chemical feels nothing really these days.
I hope the natural way works for the both of us.
I am worried we have not heard from our diffed people, Irish, mozzarella , even Morien. Hope they are us forgetting us in their happiness and all is still going well for all!
Jbrd, hope you like Vienna as I did. It surely is a nice, clean, spacey town of not too big proportions!
2minds, it has to be bfp. Please come and tell us it was:-)
Gum, I'm sorry AF got you again. I had a dream last night (having not checked in for a couple of days) that you do eventually get your THB, fingers crossed for next month.
Deige, have you got a date, and your head round needing a section yet?
Irish, is everything ok? Let us know.
Green, good to hear from you, all that shagging must have been exhausting, I hope you don't need the IVF.
Jbrd, Vienna sounds lovely, enjoy the break.
Jass, sorry to see you've had yet another chemical, I hope you're ok.
Hi calibee, 2minds, notsoold. Congratulations london.
I'm trying to type 1 handed as every time I put DD2 down today, she wakes and cries, but is very comfortable on me. Also the keyboard isn't always responding so that's slowing me down too. We are doing ok, we went away overnight on Saturday which worked well, DH is interacting with her more. We still need to talk but by the time we get DD1 in bed and LO asleep in the evenings, we are both too tired, but I'm going to have to brave it I think. Also DD2 is still nameless, despite being a month old (yes really!) and DH has a firm idea I'm not keen on, but she needs a name soon cos a) I've had a stern letter from the register office and b) we're hoping to go abroad at half term so she'll need a passport. Definitely a debate/argument for the weekend. I may wander over and post in baby names for inspiration.
Have a lovely weekend everyone.
Sorry for not posting for a while, so much goes on on the thread it's hard to catch up and respond to people if you miss a few days!
Gum sorry about AF, especially when your hopes were raised this month too.
Diege looks like your little one could be here very soon, exciting! It will be easier when you have a definite date and plan.
JBrd hope you have a lovely break and can switch off from work and come back feeling relaxed and refreshed. I had progesterone tested on 7 and 10 dpo on the NHS last year but had my AMH levels checked privately. It was when I was considering getting a Duofertility monitor and the people who developed and supply it , Cambridge Fertility, suggested it before we decided re ttc or not after my first MC. I sent off for the blood kit from them online (think it was about £50), it came in the post, I brought it to my nurse at the GP surgery who took the sample, I sent it off in the post and the results came directly back to me. It was very quick and straight forward. I think they also do progesterone testing.Might be worth a google?
CaliBee it must be difficult living in a different country to your DC. Will you go back over when your new grandchild is born? It's tough your DH being post abroad too, hope by then you have your LO to keep you company when he goes.
Green great that your cycle is getting back to normal again!
Sparkly good to hear you're doing well, even the fact your DH has strong views on a name shows he cares about her! Hope you can make a decision soon and get her passport sorted out.
Jass I certainly haven't forgotten about this thread,I keep checking even when I'm not posting! My happiness is still tinged with a lot of apprehension but on a positive, my private scan this week went well . Baby looked happy,wriggling around, measuring correctly for dates.We could see little toes on one foot, incredible. The sonographer could see a yolk sac this time and has measured the area of haematoma exactly so when I go back there next week we'll know if it's better or worse. My NHS routine 12 week scan isn't until 16th Oct( well it'll be 12.5weeks). I'll breathe a big sigh of relief if everything's ok at that stage!
Happy Birthday 2minds,sounds promising, POAS and let us know!
Sparkly, your words about naming dd and the who.e tricky situation of interaction difficulties reminded me of the story of my DC3, a child my husband did not want and I did. So I promised (to myself, n ot DH) if I get him/her, as i was pregnant and husband was acting up, if he is at least interested in naming it, I will not argue. I would have split up to keep that babe, so was not too worried about naming issue. He finally was interested, and he got his way,with a name I would have never ever ever considered. But it made them closer together and won me a few points on being reasonable about name business if unreasonable about baby business. After that we had DC4 with him voluntarily cooperating and he is now as sorry as me for leaving CH5 so late that it may be too late!
About the ugly name - well, I have got used to it. And my reaction to this name has softened. I still make all kind of nicknames out of it and seldom use it, but....I think it was worth it.
Irish, good to hear everything is as well as can be! I was rather worried for your silence, but hoping all was OK.
Jass, thank you for sharing your story of naming your DC3, definitely food for thought. The problem with DH's preferred name as I see it, is that it's too similar to DD1's name, & his middle name choice would mean they'd have exactly the same initials which I don't think we can do. We shall see.
bfn I'm afraid. I really felt hopeful this month but must just be a longer than average cycle. Hey ho, at least I can have a drink tonight when I go out with my sister. I think I may take a break from TTC for a while and clear my head of it all, as it is all consuming.
Arghh twominds so sory for the bfn - very cruel . Sorry too gum about af - seems like mother nature has been playing a few dirty tricks on here this month.
Ok here, section date scheduled for 14th October. I did suggest possible trial of labour with consultant but he said I would be mad and would most certainly 'bleed out' and need an EMCS anyway. Both my life and baby's would be at risk, and while there's a teeny chance all would end well, that's not a chance I want to take, especially when the only real issue (other than 'romantic' attachment to spontaneous childbirth which I have been lucky enough to experience anyway) is my concerns about recovery. So feeling ok now, and quite excited, though a little concerned I'll go before the 14th (when I will be 38 and 6 days - same as when I had ds1 )...Still, at least I will arrive knowing what's to be done, albeit in the middle of the night...
Irish excellent news about the scan, I'm so pleased for you. Are you able to relax even a tiny bit yet?
Sorry for rather brief post. ds2 has been ill (sickness bug) since Monday - better now but waking at 5am for last 2 nights which is a killer!
Hello ladies, good to see so much news on the thread.
I am so pleased for you Irish, that really is heartening news. I hope the next few weeks pass easily without too much anxiety.
Sparkly, it is lovely to hear from you. The naming thing is difficult. Dh and I had very different ideas about DS's name and as he wasn't all that keen on ttc him, I thought I'd let him choose. In the end though, I felt very reluctant to have his choice, and our children made the final decision anyway (which wasn't either of our choices). I think I'd probably be able to live with my DH's choice had it gone that way, mainly as a way to keep the peace. I hope you can work it out.
2minds, gosh, I am so sorry you got a BFN. I know how flippin' hard ttc is, and having our hopes raised, well, it is excruciating. However, despite the heartache month after month, I quietly accept it and tell myself it is about 1000 times better than the heartache of miscarriage. Until I had a miscariage I did not understand it. One of my friends had a miscarriage whilst I was ttc my son. It had been months (nothing compared to how long it is taking this time) and when I saw her (selfish, stupid woman that I am) I commented on how sorry I was, but at least she knew she could conceive, as I'd had no luck. How insensitive I was I now know that having a bfp, and the excitement and hope it brings, then loving your baby, no matter how tiny, makes it a terrible thing when it is taken away.
I used to think that if I persevered, I would eventually get my THB. But I do remember my friend, who is over 50 now, and had her last baby at 42, she went on to have three miscarriages, and has not yet had another baby. I know she is totally open to it, but I don't think she is actually ttc. However it does bring home the reality that I might never get my PLB (Precious Last Baby) after all.
Sparkly, I feel very priveliged to be in your dream, and to have aTHB. I hope you will add that you have psychic powers and often your dreams become reality?
Diege, the 14th!? OMG, that is not far away. I am so, so excited for you. I know you are probably feeling completely knackered and in need of a good rest, I do hope you can put your feet up before the baby comes.
Thanks for your reassuring words Jass, regarding the supplements and fertility doctors. I still feel, in my heart and head, that the natural route is the best for me. Last month I forgot to buy aspirin, so I will add that this time. But I am not sure it would help all that much. I honestly feel that it isn't hormones that are the problem, more likely poor eggs. I mean, I did get pregnant 18 cycles ago, when my periods were as light as they are now, and I think that loss was down to a dodgy egg that didn't develop.The isoflavones I have are from Red Clover, which I think is preferable to soy, so I'll take them this month and see what happens.
Despite the ugly AF turning up, and feeling despondent, I took myself out to the garden yesterday morning, and felt much better for it. I felt I accomplished something there, and then took the DC's to swimming. I did my laps, and felt totally refreshed and happy afterwards. Exercise is really helping me stay afloat ( nice mixed metaphor there, eh?), and feeling I have plenty to do in the garden and around the house is good too.
In the afternoon, DH and I went out and bought a beautiful new cooker for my kitchen, so I am now excited about painting the kitchen and cupboards to match my lovely new cream enamel stove
Hi Gum! It sounds like you had a very productive day yesterday - it's true that exercise and just accomplishing little things certainly brightens the mood. I think the natural route is certainly a good one for you; I don't think clomid would actually achieve something for you personally as you are obviously ovulating- I'm still convinced it's just a case of finding the good egg. Remember my colleague who is pregnant with the triplets at 48??? That was after one dtd at a 'safe' time of the month. She's just had her anomaly scan and 3 happy healthy baby girls by the looks of things!
I have been feeling a little down about the section (have had a few awful dreams based on last section where I felt the knife and had to have a general that itself had complications (both rare, not to panic people!) and going for a short walk/chatting to a friend perked me up. I have a trip to town planned for today to meet a friend from my old work - need to get C-section things - big knickers, peppermint oil capsules, plus some little presents from Laurie to the dcs...I must then truly focus on getting the playroom tidied tomorrow and am getting the black binsack bags ready for a purge of all unplayed with toys...Of course this must be highly secretive
Hi Diege. Yes, my mood is substantially better. It always is once the bleeding starts, it's a damned nuisance that PMS coincides with "Am I /aren't I/I really want to be: pregnant".
That is such amazing and wonderful news about your colleague who is having triplets. Blimey, I would be terrified if it were me - not of the pregnancy or complications (though those things would worry me) but three girls, all at once! Wow! I do hope she has some help, those first few months will be very difficult, but absolutely wonderful at the same time. What an amazing blessing.
I do remain hopeful that one day my ship will come in. Surely I have just one good egg in me? We seem to get timing right every month, so it must just be a matter of time?
I have worried that my lining is too thin because of the lightness of my period, but having done some research, the two don't necessarily go together. And my periods were much the same the last three times I got pregnant. And I know I didn't lose the first two due to a thin lining. Anyway, I started the red clover isoflavones today - 160mg until CD7, then 40mg CD8-12. I hope it will give my estrogen a boost, which will give me more EWCM, a big juicy egg and the result of an estrogen boost will give me a progesterone boost, and a nice healthy lining for the emby to snuggle into.
I am sorry that you are feeling a bit down about the C-section, but I do understand - especially after your last experience. I hope that the health professionals looking after you will be aware of those issues and make sure that it can't possibly happen again. Do you have some arnica? I have heard of that being recommended to help the healing after surgery - and vitamin E capsules too.
I know what you mean about being secretive with throwing out the kids' stuff. Charlie has mountains of drawings and paintings - and they are all gifts to his Mumma, which is very sweet, but they do have to be culled otherwise I'd be found under a big pile of them. So I have to be very surreptitious when I get them into the recycling
I had another lovely day yesterday. DH and DS2 came out and helped me in the garden. We have had a wet winter and spring so far, so the weeds are rampant. DS cut the grass for me and DH helped me tidy up alot of the over growth of trees and shrubs. It helped so much. I always feel like I've had a full body workout when I garden too. Then we went to the movies to see "Gravity" with Sandra Bullock and George Swooney...er, sorry, Clooney. I enjoyed it, DH had trouble suspending his disbelief. The cinematography was amazing, really beautiful, and a great suspenseful storyline, but there wasn't enough of George, and he mostly had a spacesuit on, so I couldn't get much of a look anyway
The sun is shining again today, and though I am a bit sore from gardening yesterday, I shall get back into it again.It keeps me off the internet, trawling for new ideas about ttc
Happy Sunday everyone, enjoy....
Hello Gum!!! It must be so nice spending time in the garden knowing the warmer weather is coming. It's a case of raking up autumn leaves and putting the outside furniture away here...The summer here was too hot for me though, although it would be nice to be pushing a baby in a pram on a warm day..On the baby-front I have packed some arnica tablet, though not sure what the recommended dosage is...I also have peppermint oil capsules for post-section wind and have ordered some horrendous tena lady pants which I hear come highly recommended as they'll come up over the scar and also rip off - the shame of it though..
Better get back to the ironing (uniforms) - dh has also sneaked a few shirts in . I hate ironing men's shirts!!!
Love to all xxx
Morning Diege (I think this thread has become ours!), Hello to anyone else out there reading[big wave].
Yes, being in the garden, with some sunshine is lovely. And it isn't just the humans enjoying the sun, I came upon a MASSIVE one of these near the vegie patch. Curled up, enjoying the sun. Bloody hell! Last year I had to pay a snake handler to remove one which kept coming back. We used to have a chicken house in the spot where they keep coming back to. I don't know why, the chickens have gone now, but the snakes keep coming back. Fortunately they are not venomous, however, they can give you a nasty bite. Basically, we just have to be careful in that part of the garden. It is all part of living in the bush - we are surrounded by trees on either side of our block of land.I am just a bit concerned that I might accidentally step on it - but it was huge, so it is unlikely that I won't see it. They are pretty snakes with black and yellow patterns.
Those Tena lady pants sound lovely, but who cares about the shame of it where comfort is involved? I think you do whatever it takes to be comfortable. Like you, my biggest concern about a C-section is the recovery. But I have had a few friends who have had C-sections and I am amazed at how soon they bounced back. Will you DH be able to take time off work to help you at home? It is so important to get the rest you need when recovering from surgery, and you simply must not be lifting anything heavy! Which I realise will be almost impossible unless you have help, what with a new baby and a toddler.
Today I have the usual swimming routine, but tomorrow I will be off for a couple of days alone.
I have been toying with the idea for a while, but I kept coming back to the idea that I had to get the kids to swimming lessons, and as DH made it clear when I booked them that he didn't want to do all that running around during his holidays, I felt I couldn't ask him to take over. Anyway, I decided that the swimming lessons aren't that important and the kids could miss a couple of lessons. DD1 will stay with DS at lessons tomorrow, and DH will pick them up, and then he will miss Weds,Thursday, but back for the last one on Friday.DD can keep going, as she can be left at the pool and picked up later.
So, I am going on a little trip to the city, to see my sister and her new fella in their new place. It will be so weird seeing her with the man who made her miserable for four years, but he's left his marriage now, so I hope this can be a fresh start and that she will be happy. It has become very messy with her Ex who is (understandably) very upset and angry, so seeing her own children is a bit tricky, especially as she is living 4-5 hours away from them. I could never be away from my kids, but that's the choice she made in the hope that she will find happiness.
Anyway, I am looking forward to having some kid free time and chilling out for myself (as much as one can in a busy city).