TTC #2 and turning into a nut job! Part 2!

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BartBaby Wed 19-Jun-13 08:00:54

Still ttc. Still nutty. Come join us smile

AbiBub Wed 19-Jun-13 08:24:31

Hee hee! I found you! grin

VikingLady Wed 19-Jun-13 08:40:45

Found you!

AF due tomorrow. Had very light spotting yesterday, but it stopped in no time, and I'm producing GALLONS of CM - is that normal? A good sign or a bad one? BFN this morning again, but last time I didn't get a BFP until I was a couple of weeks in. Fingers crossed!

AbiBub Wed 19-Jun-13 09:00:42

Hello * viking* ! My af due around tomorrow too! Fx for you! Producing could be a good sign I think I have a fair bit at the mo but I can also get that right before af so im not assuming anything other than af due!! I did post on the other thread, but shall I copy and paste over to here?!? confused

AbiBub Wed 19-Jun-13 09:02:02

Morning peeps! How are we all today?  mrscookie that nausea thing is horrid isn't it, I had awful nausea with our DS. Hopefully it wears off before too long, they say around 16 weeks, but I hope it doesn't affect you for too much longer!! babyrose keeping my pinkies crossed for you. I think its mainly down to the environment that is there for a sticky bean, thats why when anyone comes off the pill it takes a while for the environment to be right bcos of thechemicals to be rid of our systems! The main thing is you know you have been actively trying! ! Not really had any symptoms, I have a funny feeling that af will be imminent. I have a bit of nausea off and on but I think thats mainly down to being hungry! I have weird dull achey pains here and there but not all the time which I normally do have with af but it can change at any point so im of the mindset that af will arrive. Ive been a little nut job in my own way this end of cycle and been checking my temp (only in ear) and its actually gone down as of this morning. Im pretty sure if you're pg it stays hi doesnt it?? Af due by tomoz by my estimations so I guess if it doesnt come on by the morning I could POAS then maybe, or perhaps leave it till friday/weekend time?! Wow this has turned out to be an essay, sorry ladies!

AbiBub Wed 19-Jun-13 09:02:37

Hee hee! I did it anyway!! wink x

BartBaby Wed 19-Jun-13 09:04:49

Ha ha hi abi

Yeah i think you can have 1000 posts or something like that. I hope everyone finds us!

Good luck for poas! I need to go do the school run but i will do a better update later on smile

StoneBaby Wed 19-Jun-13 09:15:36

The cut off point is 1,000 for a thread. Thanks for stating a new one bart

I was nauseous with DS for about 3 months and I have started that too at the moment but no POAS until Sunday. It is awful to think you're going to throw up and the feeling just stay. For me it disapear by 2 - 3pm (knowing that it starts at 6.30am)

mrscookie78 Wed 19-Jun-13 09:18:55

Its funny how we spend most of our lives trying to avoid getting pregnant, then we can spend years trying to get pregnant.

Have heard you can get extra cm when pregnant viking but then I have heard and read so many symptoms that can be a sign!

AbiBub Wed 19-Jun-13 10:23:58

Ahhhhh I see I didnt know that about the posts! ! Thanks for starting a new one! Looking forward to the update!

stone yeah I positively hate the feeling if nausea and its totally pants if you hurl that the feeling doesnt go! Whenever there are bugs about I think to myself that if I get it I hope to just get back door trots rather than the sick bit, but in pg there is not that option!! I might see how long I can last before I POAS if evil af doesnt turn up as predicted

mrs cookie I know what you mean about the pg thing. Lets hope there is some more BFP's on this thread before too long eh!



Can I join here please?! Me and H are ttc our second baby. First one was a surprise lol, so this is all new to us. We stopped using contraceptives in January, but I've just had my period start today, each month it's disheartening. So we are now using ovulations tests this coming cycle. Anyway I just wanted to join for support really.

Coolhand Wed 19-Jun-13 12:36:03

Good - found you all again!

Hi Sparkly - it is devastating disheartening but there's support in nos here.

Well I've had zero symptoms until yesterday when I felt nauseous but by last night figured I'm just sick - going hot and cold, can't eat, dizzy - have spent morning in bed and still feel awful. Don't feel pregnant at all so expecting AF this weekend.

Abi have my fx for you today!

Thank you Coolhand. I had a lot of symptoms this week, felt dizzy, tiered, nauseous, and weeing more, but obviously was just a bug or something. It was awful timing, got my hopes slightly raised.

Fingers crossed for all of us here

muzzy2011 Wed 19-Jun-13 13:12:31

Hi all
Thanks for the reply cookie I was using clear blue digital ones...I'm pretty sure that the *ve reading las Friday was wrong and in actually ov today! Don't think I'm going to use them again...they have only added to my stress levels this month! Think i have no chance this month as we last DTD Sunday.

Good luck to everyone with pg symptoms and sorry you got your AF sparkly....

BartBaby Wed 19-Jun-13 15:52:45

Good luck viking its not over until af arrived so you are still in with a chance smile

abi and coolhand fx that the witch doesnt arrive for you. I would have already caved and poas!

cookie i hope you are feeling better soon. I had quite bad morning sickness with ds but it subsided by 12 weeks i think. I ate home made ginger biscuits from my auntie. And drank lots of tonic water!

And welcome sparkly were all nutters here in the same boat. Its nice to have people to talk to and vent to. And everyone is just lovely grin

My month is going slightly better than i thought it would. DH managed to get home an extra night so we got in more dtd. Im cd15 so far. Got a +ve opk on sun afternoon, and on monday lunchtime aswell so i think i will have ov during the night on monday/tuesday morning, which is cd14 and exactly the same day as the last 2 months! We dtd on cd9, cd11, cd13 and cd14. So im feeling quietly hopefull without trying to be TOO hopefull in the next 2 weeks im expecting the usual cramps and headaches and nausea and sore boobs and all the other confusing symptoms that come with it! Fun times! grin

BartBaby Wed 19-Jun-13 16:13:33

And muzzy i have read somewhere that it is possible to release 2 eggs in one month - therefore having 2 lh surges. So this could be a possibility?! But also i think that there is also some level of lh in our systems anyway so if the urine is particularly concentrated it can come up as a false positive. But i know that doesnt help work out which one is the right time! Having said that though the little fellas can live for upto 5 days at the right time so if you dtd on sunday, and ov today. You could still be in with a fighting chance. It only takes one grin

muzzy2011 Wed 19-Jun-13 17:33:15

Thanks bart...I'm pretty sure its now as got another smiley at lunchtime. The line underneath was very dark...I'm hoping to DTD tomorrow when DH is back might be just in time too...but yes Sundays is not impossible either! you have done well this month....fx!

fedupofrainydays Wed 19-Jun-13 18:06:21

Wow you ladies move quickly! I'm away for a few hours and a new thread has been sent up with loads of posts!
Being new to this, I've got to admit its great to find out there are others out there who are just as crazy as me. Think this one may top it - I had a nose bleed yesterday morning. I've only ever had two others in my life. Both when preggers with dc1. So of course I POAS 'just to check' that I'm not pregnant. How insane is that? I should also add that I'm at the tail end of af. Even crazier.

Muzzy - I heard this with opks quite a bit and it can be mega confusing. I would keep dtd'ing JIC. And reckon the swimmers from Sunday will still be kicking around too if you can't do it til tomorrow.

Bart - sounds like you have given it all this month so fx!

Abi and cool hand - I'm so impress with your self control. I would be POAS every hour (maybe not the ones when am sleeping)

Viking - I think that the spotting stopped is a good sign. And CM can mean pregnancy - although I didn't get it with either of mine. Everyone different though!

Welcome Sparkly - having a good rant / sharing loopy stories really helps deal with the disappointment, and sometimes having a laugh at my own insanity makes it oddly a bit more easy to cope with.

Sorry for the lack of embolding. Technical skills failing me whilst on the commuter slog train!!

mrscookie78 Wed 19-Jun-13 19:32:14

Muzzy, I have read ( I read way too much) that some people dont like clear blue as they have had inconsistencies with their sticks. I used amazon out of date cheapies. ( I bought them before lo) I started using them on day 13 around 2pm ish each day then wrote which day it was and photographed them to see them getting darker and conned my oh into doing smep. we dtd 2 days the week before and wed 22nd may the day before I had the strongest stick. by the sat the line had gone but a week later I poas ovulation stick anyway and had a line again. Bart is right we all have a certain level if lh in us anyway. have a look at ovulation stick images online and Google peoples opinions of the clear blue.
waffle over!!! grin

VikingLady Wed 19-Jun-13 20:49:14

I tried internet cheapie ovulation sticks when ttc DD, and they never once registered +. Clearly not accurate for me! If this cycle doesn't work for me I'm going to try temping. I'm already on B6.

Btw - I don't know if this will help anyone, but Asda sell B6 and folic acid much cheaper than anywhere else I've found them, and Poundworld near us is selling four pg tests for £1 (2 x double packs)!

mrscookie78 Wed 19-Jun-13 21:52:44

A lady I know who deals in fertility suggested temping to me, I managed it about 4 times as I forgot or had been up with lo and not had more than 3 hours sleep before he got up in the am. temping is supposed to be a really good way to pinpoint ovulation. grin

muzzy2011 Wed 19-Jun-13 21:57:51

Thanks ladles for all your advice....I really think I'm going to stop with the OPK's, I was enough of a nutjob before and this has really tipped me over the edge....I really can't handle analysing any more sticks!!

Hehe that made me chuckle fedup and something that I am sure I would do! I normally poas about 7dpo!

Tallalime Thu 20-Jun-13 00:47:37

Here you all are grin panic over.

Good luck abi and stone fingers crossed you get your bfp's.

Hello to everyone else, congratulations or commiserations where needed - sorry am crap at remembering who,s done what without the Fred in front of me and this one is all shiny and new blush

DH and I have totally failed at DTD every 2-3 days this month angry So roll on bloody AF (no pun intended)

fedupofrainydays Thu 20-Jun-13 07:42:52

My sister had her 'show' yesterday (she's expecting # 3) and admit I was jealous or possibly more just wished it was me. Jealous of a passing a gross mucus plug? Weirdo. She's on her way to hospital now and i had a little cry. Part of it is happiness she is giving my dc another lovely cousin and i obviously love my sister and her brood to bits but the other part wishes it was me (yes, even the horrifics of labour) and so sad I'm not any where near giving my dc a little sibling to play with. He loves babies too, so am finding it all a bit heartbreaking.

Awaiting my smiley face to do it all again this month....

Coolhand Thu 20-Jun-13 09:28:52

Fedup totally understandable reaction. Big hugs.

Abi good luck!

Bart that's pretty good going - hope the 2ww goes quickly!

Well, I am feeling more like myself today - have a sore head and little energy but as I haven't eaten in 36 hours, that's to be expected! Am 99.9% confident I am not pregnant - both times before (m/c and DS) knew well in advance - AF due this weekend and couldn't feel less pregnant! I head off on hols on Sat 29th, which if AF arrives when expected, will be d7-d14, so reck

Coolhand Thu 20-Jun-13 09:32:17

Oops, hadn't quite finished

...reckon we should have plenty of chances to give things a good go next month!

Onwards and upwards, always the optimist smile

PS have decided not to POAS this month as so utterly convinced I'm not pregnant and it always makes me feel sad

Catnaps37 Thu 20-Jun-13 10:39:57

Just been reading the thread -hooe you don't mind me dipping in here?!

coolhand hope you have a great holiday and manage to relax and forget about it all! It may do you the world of good smile

My cousin had another baby last night and my BF has just told me she is preg. I am pleased for them both but feel so bad for my jealous thoughts!

Feel it will never happen for me...sad

StoneBaby Thu 20-Jun-13 13:24:53

I'm feeling so awful with this constant nausea. I still can POAS as I'm still 4 days away from AF. Trying no to do symptoms spotting, but I'm convinced my boobs are filling my bra more than last week. Please can someone slap me on the head??? grin

cool it's never over up to AF arrives

catnap welcome to our nutter concersation

BartBaby Thu 20-Jun-13 14:50:01

He he <slap> there you go stone

Sore boobs and nausea appear to be my 2 main pre af symptoms so im ready for them this month and will only get my hopes up if i dont get them! who am i kidding i will be getting hopes up anyway

Welcome catnap and hello everyone else smile

2dpo and only thing ive had is a banging headache this morning

StoneBaby Thu 20-Jun-13 16:23:12

I don't get pre AF symptoms.

Ok, I caved in and POAS. Now waiting for the result... (Probably BFN)

BartBaby Thu 20-Jun-13 17:07:51


What was it stone fx for you!

muzzy2011 Thu 20-Jun-13 17:19:49

Good luck stone!!!

AbiBub Thu 20-Jun-13 17:27:09

stone ????? and???

Hello! sorry I haven't been on here, been fairly busy!

AbiBub Thu 20-Jun-13 17:42:25

And that wasn't meant to post.... I hadn't finished!!

Welcome newbies :0) Hope you are all well! I have read the posts but my DS keeps distracting me, so sorry if this post sounds distant!

bartbaby - hope the headache goes! the weather is very close so it may be that? We need a good thunderstorm!!

catnaps I know what you mean about it feels like it will never happen, I think we all feel a bit like that for sure, hang in there, I am sure it will happen, and in the meantime come offload and rant here if you wish!

cool hope you have a fabby holiday, and keeping all pinkies crossed for you still! smile

dildoos Thu 20-Jun-13 17:48:32

I am certainly a complete nutcase on ttc#2 may I Join you please x

StoneBaby Thu 20-Jun-13 17:50:42

Sorry for bot answering earlier had to dash to the GP as DS developed high temp (39.5) and became lethargic. All fine now.

As I suspected BFN. DH thinks the nausea is stress related and I think I so want to be pg that I'm inventing the symptoms. So no more POAS until Sunday Monday

dildoos Thu 20-Jun-13 18:02:17

Sorry to hear ds unwell, not over til fat lady sings so could be just a little early, I poas all the time and today wink bfn too not due til Sunday but still felt the desire to pee xx

AbiBub Thu 20-Jun-13 18:03:21

sparkly welcome and sorry to hear af arrived - hang in there, at least you have a new cycle to look forward to for at least the fun bit of trying, dtd grin wink

fedup I hope your sis gets on ok with bubs #3. Remember that when it is your turn, it will be so much more special, and the wait will be worth it for sure, I hope you get your smiley soon so that dtd can commence - im keeping fx for you for the cycle, as always smile

talla helllooo, glad you found us!! did you manage to dtd at any point possibly around time of ov though? Don't worry I stopped before I was supposed to (according to my plans, just bcos I couldn't do any more, feeling really drained in the last month, so I am surprised I managed to get any dtd done at all!!

Bart & muzzy - still keeping fx for both of you, seems like you have both covered the times when it should matter!!

I think I have replied to all?! Sorry if I missed you, there have been lot's of posts since I last came on!

OK, ok, so I caved yesterday afternoon, POAS ( well PIAC peed in a container) and it came up as a ..........BFN! dohhhhh, af not arrived this morning (which would have been the same length as my last cycle CD30) so I just thought, sod it, and used my fmu and result was.........BFN!!! I have little pains, but the weirdest thing was this afternoon, I had what I can only describe as tingly pins and needly type pinchy type pains in one boob (yep, just the one!!) it doesn't hurt, it just feels really weird. I have the normal loose feeling 'down below' that I normally get with AF, So I am just going to assume that AF will arrive at some point!! otherwise I am going to be completely!!

Phewf, sorry for the essay again!! smile

AbiBub Thu 20-Jun-13 18:08:04

Awwww stone sorry to here LO was poorly - is DS ok now, what did the gp say? I think I am going to challenge myself (if AF doesn't come on, which I think it might) to see how long I can go without testing again, I really disappointed myself with the results! We can do it, we can refrain from testing stone!!

dildoos hello, and welcome!! Hope you do get a BFP soon, try and sit on those hands till sunday wink

dildoos Thu 20-Jun-13 18:16:15

Thank you abi- I need my hands sawn off grin I have had dull sort of period pains for 2 days so I know it must be on its way hmm I just always like to hope grin

StoneBaby Thu 20-Jun-13 18:42:44

abi and dildo we can do it and survive the urge of testing until Sunday...

GP doesn't really know what happen to DS as every thing was fine. So I need to keep an eye on him tonight and get a wee sample.

dildoos Thu 20-Jun-13 18:53:49

Oooo wee sample could be tricky? Potty cuddle maybe? Xx

StoneBaby Thu 20-Jun-13 19:05:44

The potty has gone months ago (DS is 3yo) but we did try at the GP and he was happy to have his willy in the tube (sp) so fx he'll cooperate tomorrow am.

mrscookie78 Thu 20-Jun-13 19:26:37

Hope he feels better soon stone!

I had itching/tingling odd feeling inside my boobs before I poas. its not over till af comes Alibub!

mrscookie78 Thu 20-Jun-13 19:27:16

Make that Abibub not Alibub grin

VikingLady Thu 20-Jun-13 19:39:24

BFN this morning, but no AF yet today, and I've been pretty regular before. Plus I'm really painfully tired - good signs, right?

But been taking B6 so that could stretch my cycle. Trying not to get excited.

BartBaby Thu 20-Jun-13 19:41:59

Ive also had a shooting pain/tingly pain occasionly in my right boob. Only the right one though! Lol. Ive had it since ov day do im not thinking too much of it. But wierd eh?!

Good luck to all those poas soon. We have a few within the next week so we have to have some +ves in there somewhere! Im going to try to hold out until july at least the last few days of june its my ds birthday on the 30th so ive not decided if doing it before then is a good idea or bad idea...

abi my head is lots better thank you smile i think the awful humidity and not enough water is to blame!

babyrose Thu 20-Jun-13 20:53:10

Hi ladies! All settled in now but with no fridge freezer or washing machine or cooker cos they lovely people took them when weren't supposed too angryah well...

So today I'm 5dpo and I notice wee bit more cm than usual this month so I checked and it's like hand lotion!!!! Is this a sign?! Sorry too much info.

BartBaby Thu 20-Jun-13 22:41:21

Hi ladies, ive just read something on a different thread that has concerned me quite a lot. Was wondering if any of you lovely ladies has had any experience with this...

Ive just read that someone has been told that after having the mirena coil taken out, it can take a number of months for the lining of the womb to build up enough blood each month so that is thick enough for the egg to embed itself. My last 2 af's have both only be 2 days long. Having read the other post im not wondering if my lining isnt thick enough for a little egg to get comfy and my af's are only short as there isnt much blood to shed.

Has anyone else had any experience of short af's?

I hope this isnt the reason that im not upduffed yet hmm

dildoos Thu 20-Jun-13 22:52:36

I have amenorrhea and that gets rid of too much lining And I have a dd but have had 3 mcs trying for 2nd, I would have thought a shorter lighter af would have been better? But I am no gp just know that amenorrhea sheds too much x

BartBaby Thu 20-Jun-13 23:03:37

Ive read that it really needs to be a certain thickness for the egg to be able to implant. Ideally between 8-12mm. And anything less than that can make it harder to conceive. I would have thought a short period would indicate a thinner lining.

I doubt the doctors would check it yet or do anything about yet as i havent been trying long but its frustrating to think this could be a problem...

fedupofrainydays Fri 21-Jun-13 06:35:42

I also was worried about this. I had an erpc earlier this year and my periods afterwards were so light but painful and short. I was worried there was not enough lining as it was trying to shed something that didnt exist. Was then worried there was nothing for the egg to implant in. I did read loads on this and doctors don't worry about it as periods are all different. But - you can have a scan to assess thickness if you are worried. My solution was to take more iron and red meat i the hope it would somehow boost supply! Mine are back to being heavier and less painful now - but think it has taken a few months after erpc to do that. The fear of ashermans syndrome was the worst.... But I am less paranoid about that now as its less painful (was doubled up in pain, sick etc) so of you continue to be worried, maybe have a scan?

BartBaby Fri 21-Jun-13 06:49:06

Thanks fedup i'll see how af is in a couple of weeks when it inevitably shows up. I didnt thing the docs would do anything just tet as its only been a couple of months but you never know. I can only ask!

fedupofrainydays Fri 21-Jun-13 07:15:50

Indeed. Or you could see someone privately if you continue to worry and dr won't do anything. But I do think after miscarriage these things can take time to sort themselves and depends on individual circumstances. Hopefully af won't turn up for you and then no need to think about it!!

Started our run of DTD today... Early morning prodding to start us off. No smiley yet but am thinking the mor swimmers I get up there the better!! Now walking around hoping it won't all 'fall out'. Anyone got any crazy solutions for that one as there is only so long I can do a headstand afterwards?!

fedupofrainydays Fri 21-Jun-13 07:23:13

Sorry bart just realised I was banging on about periods after mc thinking you had had one. But realised your short periods are after the coil. So pleased you haven't had the mc! Even so, I do think the body needs some time to adjust after an 'event' in there whether mc, pregnancy, coil removal, pill stopping etc, the body can need a few months to sort it's life out and readjust. Frustrating though and worrying... And doesn't help with the crazy symptom spotting!

BartBaby Fri 21-Jun-13 07:23:23

Ha ha that made me giggle fedup

I normally try and lay down and rest my legs on the wall or something like that for half an hour or so. Ive read that after about that time the ones that are any good will be well on their way by then. All that will be left to 'fall out' will be the seminal fluid and the duds! If they havent got a wriggle on after half an hour they probably wouldnt make it at all!

Ninunina Fri 21-Jun-13 07:23:24

Don't despair too much Bart. My gynecologist had once told me that light periods are much less concerning than heavy ones. Everyone is different.
Didn't man manage to dtd yesterday. I think I may have ovulated too so today is probably too late. I hope twice was enough.
Part of me doesn't want to get pregnant this month. My friend who has been trying for two and a half years finally got pregnant after her 1st attempt at IVF. She was 10 weeks pg but found out yesterday that she had a mmc at 7 weeks.
I have always felt extremely guilty that me and all my friends get pregnant very easily and now I'll feel even worse if I get pg now on our first official month of trying. I know this is a silly way of reasoning, but I feel so bad for her sad

PastaBeeandCheese Fri 21-Jun-13 07:41:26

Please can I join?

TTC #2: check
Turning into nut job: check

Cycle 2 for me and I've tried so hard not to symptom spot especially after I failed to get a positive OPK. AF due today but just don't feel like it's coming at all. Obviously got all excited about this so POAS this morning.....BFN.

Have wailed to DH that DD will be an only child all the way to the station and he's told me to cheer up and stop being so mental.

I don't want to use OPKs next month but feel I must to see if I am actually ovulating.

Fedup's post about her sister really resonated with me. 3 friends are due their second this month. I'm so happy for them but I know I am going to feel jealous too..... I'm having one friend's DS when she goes to hospital so I know I feel a bit envious when I go to collect him......

Someone slap me please. I'm a nut job and a 'jealousy poo' as I'd say to DD!

StoneBaby Fri 21-Jun-13 08:08:57

Welcome pasta we're all in the same boat here. Counting, opk, POAS, and true nutter. Feel free to rant as much as you want.

ninu sad for your friend but if she's a true friend and you explain to her how you feel it should be fine.

Nausea is still here so to be continued...

AbiBub Fri 21-Jun-13 08:42:24

Morning ladies :0)

mrscookie you made me giggle then - alibub hee hee!! tinglyish weird feeling gone for the mo, but my boobs do feel heavy today!! But this could all be a sign that AF witch is due!!

I think it's odd that a few of us have had the weird feeling in one boob!! do you think they put something in the water?!! ha ha!

babyrose that's just really annoying about the appliances being taken!! what are you going to do? oooh the hand lotion cm could be a sign, I have heard that increase cm can be a sign of pg, I hope so, as I have more of it this month!!

bartbaby oooh that other post about the coil seems an interesting one. Is there anywhere reputable on the net that you find that info? Or perhaps its worth giving your gp (telephone consultation) or even the local hospital? I am hoping that your lining is thick enough for a sticky bean!! this is the only place in the world where one woman can say that to another

hang on, have to post two, as I am sure there is another page!! im on page 2!!

AbiBub Fri 21-Jun-13 09:07:36

Yep, there was a 3rd page!!

Ninu I hope twice was enough for you too lovely, if its meant to be then it will happen. I think it's very sweet of you to feel like that because of your friend, considering how much we all want this #2 pg, to hope that you don't this month bcos of your friend is a sign of a wonderful lady smile

fedup you do make me chuckle!! headstands ahoy!! I get bored of the legs up in the air considering that happens when dtd too I would go uber light headed afterwards!! so I manage about 10 mins after dtd, although the last two time I couldn't be bothered as it was too late and I was tired, I am f the thinking that if you have got a good strong swimmer in there then they defy all odds and achieve their goal! plus, they do get shot out at about 60mph, (which is just insane to think that 60mph of anything in there is just weird!!)

welcome pasta I hope you enjoy our nutters thread!! grin that is very good of you to be looking after your friends LO when she goes in, so although you feel like a "jealousy poo" give yourself a big pat on the back!! I think that if me and my OH don't catch a sticky bean in the next few months I will get some cheapy OPK's just to make sure I am actually ov!!

Ohhhhh stone nausea, although a completely cr*p feeling, if it means pg then that would sorta be awesome!!

Talking of nausea..... I have a little this morning but that may be down to lack of breakfast!! Got back ache, but I have a 4yo that I constantly pick up after on auto pilot so it may just be that! so still no AF yet, there are a few of us waiting or delayed with BFN at the mo, I sometimes wonder whether pg tests are not quite as good as they used to be!! confused

StoneBaby Fri 21-Jun-13 09:17:18

fedup that's why I try to dtd in the evening like this I get a 12 hours lie-in. Lol at the headstand grin

Fx BFP are on their way to all the delayed AF

babyrose Fri 21-Jun-13 09:41:29

We have ordered some other appliances and will be arriving today and tom!

Fingers crossed its a good sign for us!!

Sorry I don't know about coils could you talk to your doctors about it? Sorry if I'm not much help.

fedupofrainydays Fri 21-Jun-13 11:34:37

Hi pasta welcome to the mad house!

I hope everyone's symtoms are real ones and af doesn't arrive!

I had the worse thing today -
"So... You must be thinking about # 2, right?" Took all my strength not to
a) burst into tears
b) punch them in the face
c) scream all the gory details of my last few months of mc and ttc
d) drop all my used but bfn Tests on their lap. (Although this would entail finding them from their various hiding places - can't let OH know how much money I waste!!)
Hideous - some people have no clue.

StoneBaby Fri 21-Jun-13 11:42:42

fedup I could have wrote this list (except for c) take care

Catnaps37 Fri 21-Jun-13 14:29:28

Fed up completely agree. Full list for me and I also get the, 'we'll, you're not getting any younger and will run out of time soon...!'

Really?! I never thought of that... Thanks for reminding me?!

On a positive note, my CBFM showed high fertility this morning...I am hopeful that I may peak this weekend?! I'm crossing everything!! (Well not my legs obviously :p)

PastaBeeandCheese Fri 21-Jun-13 16:08:34

Fedup.... I am so sorry about your mcs. That must be so hard to deal with.

Good luck Catnaps.

AF has just arrived. Thank god I'm at work so I have a good distraction and can't think about it too much. It's early days for me really but I can't stop worrying about failing to get a positive OPK last month....

I'm focussing on having a nice night out with DH tomorrow to cheer me up as we have rare babysitter.

fedupofrainydays Fri 21-Jun-13 20:55:28

catnap - that is another special I agree. Some people just don't think. The one that annoyed me the most though is after miscarriage "well something's are just meant to be" WTF. Good luck with the uncrossed leg action, it's going to be me too this weekend.

pasta sorry af rocked up. But def make the most of the rare date night. I am overdue one with DH. And don't talk about baby making if you can help it! Xx

VikingLady Fri 21-Jun-13 21:06:03

Re trying to keep it in - I used a mooncup last time around. And pg in 3m, though that is almost certainly coincidence....

BFN today again, though af was due yesterday and no sign yet. Does anyone know how far B6 can "stretch" a cycle?

fedupofrainydays Fri 21-Jun-13 22:23:34

Moon cups gross me out. But like your thinking for catching the swimmers in them rather than af. I think say that's what helped the first time round.....
Oddly I wondered if a tampon would work... But then wouldn't that just absorb them all?!
Sorry - cant help on the b6 front - not tried it / don't know what it does but fx there is a bfp for you there

Coolhand Fri 21-Jun-13 22:44:30

So much going on here since last on, it's hard to keep up!

Bart are you taking vitamin B6? I know if you have a short luteal phase they recommend it (which would also imply a thinner lining). That might help but as others say, consult with GP if unsure.

I'm loving the 'keep it in' solutions - no headstands here - think I need to up my game!

Pasta sorry to hear AF here - it's always such a downer.

Fedup totally agree with you on insensitive people! Also v glad to know I am not the only one who guiltily hides pregnancy tests from dh because I don't want him to know just how nutty I am.

Hope there is plenty of action this week for those hitting crucial dates and still holding out for a bfp from someone! I began to feel bloated/sore boobs etc today but I'm pretty sure that's AF on the way in the next few days. Not testing in the interim.

PastaBeeandCheese Sat 22-Jun-13 06:57:29

It's the gusset gazing I can't stand. I currently analyse everything as a 'sign'. I get a few days off a month before the search for EWCM begins, followed by weeks of convincing myself I'm getting implantation symptoms and analysing every 'secretion'.

Just realised what a boaky word secretion is. <resolves never to say secretion again>

dildoos Sat 22-Jun-13 07:02:17

Pasta what hmmm fluid should we have after implantation?

PastaBeeandCheese Sat 22-Jun-13 07:56:58

Lord knows dildoos. I don't think there's an answer. Whatever is coming out of me I can find a google hit to say it's a sign of pregnancy. It's all a symptom of nut-job-itis for me / too much googling.

For example.... I tested negative yesterday and my AF has started.... Just brown spotting. If I cross reference articles on unreliability of pregnancy tests with articles on women experiencing spotting when their period is due I come up with an answer that allows me to extend my phantom pregnancy by another day <sighs>

I am going to resolve to chill out from today. I have a boat trip and picnic with DD and DH followed by a night out at a gorgeous restaurant with DH. I am going to spend the whole day being grateful they are both so lovely and trying not to obsess.

StoneBaby Sat 22-Jun-13 08:57:23

I'm getting slight cramping on my lower tommy so suspect af is on its way. Or can it be pg symptoms? I'll be buying a FRER today as I don't like the answer CB is giving me

And yes at the tests hidding. I do that with ov and pg tests <I'm a complete nutter grin >

fedupofrainydays Sat 22-Jun-13 09:14:22

pasta I'm with you in making google say what you want it too! Everything can be a pregnancy symptom in my book.

I don't hide the ov tests as DH knows I'm doing those (at 30 quid every month!) but he doesn't know how many I do - just bc I am obsessed with the whole POAS thing!

stone hope it is preggers symptoms and not af. I also don't like answers that tests give me so keep going / trying a different brand to see if I like any of them.

Oh and I am known to take one apart when I really don't like the answer its given me - to inspect it that more closely - there HAS to be another line in there right?!

Right - off to the gym. It's too early in my cycle to illogically worry about running dislodging any implanting eggs / given up wondering if exercise harms my chance of conceiving - as no exercise hasn't helped has it, so maybe doing some exercise will?!

StoneBaby Sat 22-Jun-13 12:15:27

Just got a BFN on a FRER. And now I'm crying

muzzy2011 Sat 22-Jun-13 14:02:56

Sorry to hear that stone, when are/were you due? I've completely lost track there has been so much going on here I haven't kept up!

Haha I'm known to take tests apart too just in case the line is hiding!

I'm busy imagining pg symptoms already....I'm either 7dpo or 3dpo depending which opk reading is right?!
Any news abi?

StoneBaby Sat 22-Jun-13 14:18:57

muzzy AF is due on Monday. I'm on 13 dpo. Good luck to you

muzzy2011 Sat 22-Jun-13 14:48:53

All is not lost yet then...good luck.

dildoos Sat 22-Jun-13 14:53:43

Stone there is still a remote chance!!!! I am sure I was 7 days late before a faint kind with dd! Pasta Iay get on google, I have prickly boobs, period pains a bfn and an urge to drink bulmers grin I had one now feeling ropey and feel like have tummy bug! Am sure can make that a hope too grinhowever really feel like periods coming tomorrow sadwe are all mental nut cases!! envy It xx

fedupofrainydays Sat 22-Jun-13 15:56:25

stone sorry for the disappointment but agree that it's not all over til af arrives. Some people don't get bfps til a good few days after missed af. Both times I've been preggers its was only ridiculously faint on day af was due. oddly those two times i didn't do any earlier tests - I waited! Clearly that's out the window nowadays when I test whenever I can. Not now I'm on here of course and abiding by the rules.

PastaBeeandCheese Sat 22-Jun-13 17:34:07

I'm sorry Stone. Crying over the single line is standard here but I do think you've still got hope if AF due Monday and judging by your post time it wasn't first thing when you POAS?

Dildoos MN confirms prickly boobs are a symptom, we all know about sickness, POAS is only 99% accurate and far less pre AF date and I can find a woman in Dublin who swears she craved Bulmers the whole way through.

Right, here's my insanity inducing situation.... AF due yesterday. Tested using IC first thing... BFN. Thought AF started mid afternoon with brown blood which carried on until the evening turning slightly pink. Nothing since then..... I'm back on full time gusset gazing.

Anyway, I fessed up to DH who expressly told me not to test before morning and to stop using £1 tests from Amazon. Obviously I ignored him and just tested again.... BFN but there is a mark on the test.... Couldn't call it a line, more a water stain / shadow.

Kicking myself for not using a Clear Blue now. With DD I got a mega faint line the day I was due with a FRER.

Arghh.... Going to have to wait until tomorrow morning and see if AF arrives in the night aren't I??

StoneBaby Sat 22-Jun-13 19:52:42

pasta I would say that yes testing tomorrow am with your first urine may be the way forward. I hope you get a result either way.

DH has been supportive but he's not sure what to say. I'm wondering if I should test again in the morning or just wait Monday and see if AF arrives. What's bugging me the most is that we dtd on the day of my + opk and I've got symptoms

dildoos Sat 22-Jun-13 21:29:26

Hey ladies, help I am feeling really rough, pale and sick diorrhea and so bad just has to leave friends where we were sleeping the night hmm brown spotting period due tomorrow. Do you think this may be promising or just a sick bug and period will come tomorrow? Got the pains hmm help please xx

AbiBub Sat 22-Jun-13 21:37:48

stone I still have hopes for you lovely, test when you feel you need to test! Even if it ends up being tomorrow and monday wink

pasta give the test a go, may as well! Especially as spotting seems to have ceased and the whole brown then pale pink stuff in my book is possibly a good sign! smile

I think we can all establish the nutty side for sure, im so glad im not the only one that wants to pull apart tests, cos those little windows restrict the possible faintest lines of hope ever eh!!

dildoos lets hope they are pg urges and nothing to do with the evil af witch!!

muzzy nice to know your with us nutters on the symptom spotting already!! :0)

fedup; hope you enjoyed the gym visit!

Im off to go see what I can get in the way of alcohol now! ! Cd32 and the bi**h has decided to make an appearance! ! Stooooopid af!! However I had this odd moment of nuttiness earlier where I thought ooooh its subsided a bit perhaps I still could be pg, then it came back with a vengeance! ! So I shoved a tampax up thereand got on with life as we know it! ! Its probably a good thing as we got told that our landlord is looking ti put the house that we live in on the market in about a months time, so I best get a wriggle on a find a new place for us to live without a deposit, yeah this month isgonna be fun huh!! Neeeeeeeeeed aalcohol for sure this evening! ! :0/

I think I may have missed a few out as cant go back a page without this writing be deleted so sorry if I missed anyone!!

How is everyone? x

AbiBub Sat 22-Jun-13 21:43:24

dildoos not sure but I hope its not a bug :0/ I guess the thing to do is just make sure you're hydrated as best you possibly can, keep sipping water (dont down it or gulp it, it will make you sick!!) Just gague it and see what happens by the morning? ! Sorry I cant be of any more help :0/

dildoos Sat 22-Jun-13 21:43:54

Abi- I know the house finding / moving/ deposit finding is a worry! But don't they say new house new baby? Here's hoping for you!!!
Bloody witch and her rather annoying habit of turning up! I fear she is now on her broom heading my way! Xx

AbiBub Sat 22-Jun-13 21:47:21

Do you know what, I ve just looked up at the clock and seen the time! I can't be bothered to go find drink now! I just include it in the list for the weekly food shop!!

dildoos Sat 22-Jun-13 21:48:12

Some virtual Sauvignon winewinewinewinewinewinewinewinewinewine

AbiBub Sat 22-Jun-13 21:50:08

Hee hee thanks dildoos I know what you mean.... I shall shout at the witch to tell her to bypass you!! Let usk know how you are getting on, I hope you feel better soon! ! :0)

AbiBub Sat 22-Jun-13 21:51:20

Awwww thanks glug glug glug glug :0)

Coolhand Sun 23-Jun-13 00:23:20

Oh Abi sorry on both fronts. Not knowing what's happening with your house situation is soooo stressful. I hope things work themselves out soon and curses to AF.

Oh Dildoos, seriously hope you are feeling better soon. Get some rest and plenty of water.

Stone hope you're doing okay. Hang in there and will keep fx that result turns round over the weekend.

No more news here - expecting AF to rock up tomorrow. If not, I'll leave it until Monday before POAS.

dildoos Sun 23-Jun-13 06:51:50

The evil witch has arrived full blown hideous af! Grrrr out comes iron as serious tiredness is clearly very low levels again due to tmi the flow!
How's everyone else feeling today? Hung over? Xxx

StoneBaby Sun 23-Jun-13 07:12:42

It appears AF has just arrived. Very light tho and still feeling crap but now I know where I stand sad

It seems this month we're all in the same boat

dildoos Sun 23-Jun-13 07:18:19

hmmangrythanks Stone- bloody evil thing!

PastaBeeandCheese Sun 23-Jun-13 08:42:44

How are you feeling now dildoos?

Stone, I'm really sorry. That sucks.

Coolhand, Fingers crossed for you.

Abi, I'm sorry about your house situation. I hope that gets sorted ASAP. Our house is on the market and the uncertainty is really hard to deal with.

I'm no further forward really. Tested first thing with a Clear Blue. There's a faint line as in you have to tilt it and switch the electric light out to see it. DH can see it though so at least i'm not halucinating. I'm 2 days late now and by this point with DD I had a bold line that came up instantly. I think I'm going to have to leave it a few days which is going to kill me.

Mind you, I don't know why I place any faith in Clear Blue. I failed to get a smily face all month long with their digital ovulation kit.

muzzy2011 Sun 23-Jun-13 11:27:36

Oh no sorry to hear all these horrible af's have arrived sad sorry for you all.
Def have a drink...and cheeky cig I say!

Sounds promising pasta....although I have to say I steer clear of clearblue tests after once getting a false positive. I think the ones with pink dye are much better! Good luck..I hope it is a BFP!

dildoos Sun 23-Jun-13 16:25:01

Pasta loving the bfp!!!!
Will you be doing another first thing?
Today honestly feeling poop!

fedupofrainydays Sun 23-Jun-13 16:58:29

Pasta this does sound promising! Cheering me up on my still absent smiley face OPK.

Sorry for dildo, abi and stone for af witch. House situ sounds stressy too Abi. I did a house move whilst pregnant and was in constant pool of tears at any thing!

Dildo e- I hope you feel better soon. Sounds like a nasty bug so keep resting, watching shite TV and duvet days (not bd'ing just yet).

Stone I hope you are feeling a bit better today. I always find the first day of af the worst, and cry for a good few hours. Then the next day is a bit better, and the next. Big hugs for you.

Cool am hoping for your bfp tomorrow!

PastaBeeandCheese Sun 23-Jun-13 18:27:03

muzzy I think you are right. I was seduced by 20% off in Boots. It was a double pack too so feel I have to use second one before I can go and but the First Response.

dildoos you poor thing. Are you getting much rest? I hope so. I hope a good night's sleep is heading your way.

I am desperate to test again because I'm turning even more nutty with all this. Nearly 3 days late and I flip between thinking it is a line and I'm pregnant and thinking I didn't ovulate, I'm going to skip my AF and i am now having mental visions of lines.

Desperate to test again tomorrow. DH has meanly sensibly suggested I wait until Tuesday as it isn't likely to go from watermark to think line in 24 hours and until I get a proper line I can believe it iyswim?

I don't know if I can even though I know he is probably right killjoy that he is

fedupofrainydays I was testing twice a day during the critical period and nothing. The empty circle of misery. If I get a decent line I'm going to dance round the room and then celebrate by writing a strongly worded letter to Clear Blue.

StoneBaby Sun 23-Jun-13 18:45:05

pasta we dtd on a cb smiley result and af is here so I'm with you on the tests not been accurate (or my DH swimmers aren't good swimmers iyswim)

dildoo how are you?

muzzy2011 Sun 23-Jun-13 19:37:06

Bugger that pasta test tomorrow with the crappy clearblue and first response Tuesday I reckon....sorry this is coming from someone who has been known to poas twice a day from 9dpo....

My false positive line was very thin rather than faint...the line was actually quite dark!

dildoos Sun 23-Jun-13 19:40:40

Good evening all,
I cried at my mum todayconfused my mum is very sensitive so don't like to do this but I am fed up!
Calling Bourn hall in Cambridge tomorrow as I need to get things straight in my OCD head!
It's a bfn followed by an evil af which are sooooooo heavy I have to take 630mg of iron whilst on, this one however keeps making me feel sick, go pasty white that my dp keeps worrying! Grrrrrrr lady times!!!!
Any way enough self pity !
How are you guys?
Pasta you are more restrained than me I would have done another 20grin
I love the good news!
Sorry for all the other afs sad
Any one else used Bourn before? Any advice? Any one recommend the clear blue monitors? I am now officially cycle 29! Xxx

PastaBeeandCheese Sun 23-Jun-13 19:50:22

I think you've every right to be upset dildoos I don't think it is self pity at all. Give yourself a break. It sounds like you're having a tough time and we all have a cry sometimes. I sobbed over my blank OPKs and BFNs and I haven't even been trying that long and I'm not a tearful person normally.

I don't think talking it through with Bourne Hall can hurt at all.

Have an un-mumsnet hug. You deserve it.

dildoos Sun 23-Jun-13 20:01:46

Thank you pasta.
I think when you want a baby so badly weather it's 1 cycle 50 cycles the disappoinent is soooooo huge , felt bad as dd happened to see I had cried so fibbed and said mummy ill but she hugged loads and said don't worry I love you! smile Proud moment for my selfless little lady xx

Coolhand Sun 23-Jun-13 20:19:14

Awh - dildoos that's so sweet of her - she sounds like a lovely little lady. I agree with pasta, you have every right to be upset and you're also feeling physically awful. Look after yourself.

Stone also sorry on arrival of AF - it's so hard when you feel like you've done everything right and it still doesn't happen. At least now you know where you stand.

pasta sounds exciting - hope that line gets a bit more substantial soon.

Well I had to sit on my hands this afternoon and chant 'must not POAS' (in my head anyway - still trying to pretend to DH that I am not remotely nutty).

The facts:
1) We only dtd x1 around ov
2) I don't feel remotely pregnant
3) I feel exactly like I do when AF is about to arrive the next day
4) Although today is officially due day, it's only day 25. Cycle was 25 last month, 24 the month before and 26 the month before that, so not exactly set in stone!

And still...I was tempted. I held strong because I only have 1 test left and hate the feeling of bfn - would have been internally saying 'I told you so'! Not testing tmrw morning either as if AF not there, know it'll show 2 hrs later!

dildoos Sun 23-Jun-13 20:23:07

Cool it only takes one, so I will be crossing everything for you! I thrive for hearing loads of bfps on here it seems like there's hope out there smile xxx

StoneBaby Sun 23-Jun-13 21:09:13

dildoos I know how you feel. I was crying on Saturday and my DS (3 yo) came to give me a hug and than told DH that I was sad. I know for next time (aka next month) that I need to test either early morning or once he's in bed

dildoos Sun 23-Jun-13 21:10:40

Stone- I feel for you my lovely , poor children worry so seeing mummy upset hey!
I keep trying to think of positive things to help this month! Any ideas? X

PastaBeeandCheese Sun 23-Jun-13 22:17:59

Good luck coolhand. I expect I shall cave and test again first thing.

It sounds as though we all have very lovely DCs to try and keep us sane. DD gave me three of her stickers today which I was very pleased about as she is normally very tight with them. I was less pleased when I was at the gym and realised I'd sat on one and had been running for 40 minutes with a horse stuck to my backside.

AbiBub Sun 23-Jun-13 22:29:42

Hey all.

Wow, there have been lot's of posts on here since I last looked/commented last night!! I will try not to bore everyone with my long posts!

No hang over ( I don't tend to suffer with those) and also I didn't drink last night in the end!! Have had a sneaky tia maria (Tesco version, budget and all) and cola this evening. Have kept myself busy today, and told myself not to think about housing stuff just yet, will wait to I get paper this week and check! Thank you for your kind words ladies, on that and the AF evil witch

Sorry to hear that some of you have got your AF's too, and what with all the one tingly boob(s) as well eh. Maybe next month we will be successful eh ladies. Dildoos I can think of one positive thing within the next month....dtd wink and I think if we all stop by on here durin our cycles then that's fairly positive too! Sorry you are feeling crappy, I suffer with low iron levels and they hit a low around and during AF (that and my driving goes wonky!!) I started taking well woman (Tesco version) multivitimins which don't have vit A in, as I wanted to start taking something that wasn't pregnancy specific, and that I could carry on taking before, during and after pg if I ever bloody get there it has helped a little, but perhaps you could do something similar and then take an additional iron supplement a week before AF is due and during maybe?

cool pasta sit on those hands a little longer and keep yaself busy lovelies!! * abi does cheerleader dance, with pom poms, chanting, you can do it, you can do it * !!

Yep, I still manage a long post! sorry for the bore!! blush

AbiBub Sun 23-Jun-13 23:07:00

pasta that is a cute and chuckle worth story! ! :0)

fedupofrainydays Mon 24-Jun-13 06:38:44

Ah pasta that is so cute! And funny about the "horsey" of your bum! Our DCs must be the only thing keeping us semi sane through this process. My DS has recently started to 'do' cuddles and I love it. Before he would just push me away and go play with his cars but now he comes over and climbs up for a cuddle. Love it.

So... Smiley face arrived at 6 am. So currently lying with two pillows under me. Too early for any further gymnastics. How many days after the smiley to you DTD? Last month we only did the day and the day after (ov'd late so was worn out by the time it arrived) and clearly didnt work. Not sure i have much faith in these sticks (seems you ladies don't either) but at least it entertains my need to POAS throughout the month!

Have a good Monday ladies

PastaBeeandCheese Mon 24-Jun-13 06:48:22

Ooo fedup I have no faith in them at all because I have A LINE..... Still stupidly faint for 3 days late but no need to tilt and squint this time. It's a BFP.......!! Can't believe it.

I definitely can't believe I didn't ovulate now. <shakes fist at Clear Blue OPKs>

Here's hoping there is a tidal wave of BFPs on this thread now.

fedup I personally think DTD as much as you can?

Abi I really hope you end up with a nicer house as a result of having to move and then it won't be so bad.

2beornot Mon 24-Jun-13 06:52:57

Hi ladies. Just saying hi.

I have been on a roller coaster recently. Original nutjob, first one with a BFP and earliest EDD on the antenatal thread. All was good.

But now I'm back sad Now I as lovely as you all are, I do not want to to be here. So lets hope I can start dtd soon, get a BFP and get out of here!!!

Ninunina Mon 24-Jun-13 06:57:10

<<runs in excitedly to see if pasta got a BFP this morning>>
My DD is a result of a very feint BFP on a clear blue at 9 dpo.
Sorry to hear that AF got few of you yesterday.
I'm officially entering my 2ww. My classic ovulation pains are here and I think I usually get them after I've ovulated so that means we managed to dtd 3 times (on alternate days). Hopefully that will be enough but I'm not feeling too hopeful. I wonder what imaginary symptoms I'll dream up this time. Last month was a killer, though I read in the paper that there is this virus in my area that is causing tiredness and nausea and it lasts about 2 weeks. Perhaps I had that last month and that's why I felt so miserable.
Unless I get similar symptoms I'm going to try not to POAS til the 5th or 6th July (unless AF turns up before).

Ninunina Mon 24-Jun-13 07:00:02

cross post. ....grin grin grin grin
Congratulations pasta!
A line is a line!

dildoos Mon 24-Jun-13 07:20:47

Pasta pasta pasta a line !!!! Yay. << sings "I'm so excited and I just can't hide it">>

2be so sorry your here with us lovely- hugs and positive ness your way!

I am not going to work today going to gp to demand some answers angry

Have a good day xx

fedupofrainydays Mon 24-Jun-13 07:23:34

Ah pasta that's great news! Yay for the bfp!

Mayb you ov'd late hence the lack of smileys / faint bfp? Did you keep POAS after the time you would expect to ov? Not sure i trust these things that much either as all my body signs would say I ov'd a couple of days ago but no smiley til today! Preparing myself / getting energy levels up for more DTD before officially entering the 2ww of hell

Ninunina Mon 24-Jun-13 07:40:24

2beornot so sorry that you've found yourself back here. I hope your stay will be short and you'll be back on the antenatal thread for the full 9 months very soon.

Hi ladies

I am also from the original nut job thread and like 2be I don't want to be back but my 2nd miscarriage this year brings me back to you lovely people.

DH would not be impressed with me posting in here as we have decided to 'take a break' from ttc and just wait and see if it happens so I have stopped the OPK but am still lurking on here - is that okay?

We are not over the miscarriage - don't even know if I'm over the 1st one in Feb so it probably wouldn't be ideal to fall pregnant straight away plus I am applying for a new job - same company but different role but if I am honest with myself I really just want to be pregnant hmm

Anyhoo I have waffled on - I will lurk here if that's okay.

Good luck ladies!! Xx

dildoos Mon 24-Jun-13 07:51:24

Mummy- hello, sorry your hear again too sad
It's very hard to say and actually do a break so yes come lurk here with us whilst you pretend to dh it is a break wink

PastaBeeandCheese Mon 24-Jun-13 08:25:49

Thanks Ninunina. 2WW is a killer as is symptom spotting but it's an important qualification for this thread. Good luck!

I need positive stories of faint lines as it is inducing paranoia in me.... Arghh.... <stares at gift horse's mouth>

dildoos I think that's a good idea. Don't let them fob you off.... My DD was very poorly in hospital last November and I found it best to approach conversations with the Drs as though it was a work conversation to try and not get overly emotional and ensure I got what I wanted out of the exchange which was sooo hard but I think helped overall.

fedup I gave up 6 days after I would have expected to ovulate so I could have ovulated late but I honestly can't remember if we DTD after that point?? I had EWCM and pains at the point i'd have expected to ovulate but no smily face. Arghh.... Maybe the tests just aren't very good although I liked feeling like I was doing something to help iyswim?

2beornot I'm so sorry. This must all be awful. I really hope you get your BFP ASAP. thanks

mummytotheark good luck with the new job. I hope you get it! <cheers for mummy's job prospects> and I hope that a break works out well and turns into a BFP when you're ready.

I'm sorry about your MCs thanks

PastaBeeandCheese Mon 24-Jun-13 08:30:08

Thank you for the virtual song dildoos.

muzzy2011 Mon 24-Jun-13 09:57:52

Yey!!!!!! That's great news pasta! I wouldn't worry about how faint the line doesn't seem to make much difference in the long run.

Sorry you are back here 2be. That's really really rubbish, hope you are ok.
And hello again mummy. Hope you get the new job!

hi everyone else!.

I'm into my 2ww wait now, think 5dpo. I hate this bit. The nuttiness just goes to a new level of nuttiness!

dildoos Mon 24-Jun-13 10:04:31

Everything crossed for you muzzy!
I read in a Chinese book you must now keep your abdomen warm! So wear an extra layer!!!

muzzy2011 Mon 24-Jun-13 10:12:49

Lol thanks for the tip dildoos!
Good luck at the doctors.

StoneBaby Mon 24-Jun-13 12:28:41

pasta c

StoneBaby Mon 24-Jun-13 12:32:32

Okay let's try again!

pasta congratulations!!!!

mummy take care. Re the new job if you're in the same company you may still be entitled to all the mat cover when it happens?

2be sad

Well I've already told DH of when is the next ov date (9 July) and I think he'll oblige in fitting more dtd as he saw how upset I was this month.

donnab1983 Mon 24-Jun-13 15:42:53

Hi wondering if I can join you all, been trying to conceive #2 since last June, had a missed miscarriage in October & just lost another one this weekend (was only 5 weeks). Just found mumsnet and finding it very comforting to find so many people in the same boat.

My first pregnancy went perfectly, so finding this time hard as just expected it to be the same as with my DD.

Just have to get back to it, I suppose!!

dildoos Mon 24-Jun-13 16:07:28

Sorry your here too donnab! Sit back with us they are. Lovely bunch xx

Coolhand Mon 24-Jun-13 18:50:16

Donnab having people in the same boat definitely helps - this place keeps me sane sometimes.

Pasta congratulations and your horsey bum story made me laugh lots. To all those in the 2ww - hoping for some sane days ahead.

So this evening I caved and POAS - it turned out to be a good use of my last test because I got a BFP! Can't quite believe it! So much for being 99.9% convinced I wasn't. Of course it means no lovely wine or stinky cheeses on my holiday next week but I think that's a compromise I'm willing to take!

Having had a m/c before, I'm allowing myself to be no more than cautiously optimistic...

StoneBaby Mon 24-Jun-13 19:04:39

coolhands congratulations!!!!!

dildoos Mon 24-Jun-13 19:08:23

Woohoo cool!!!!!! Fab news sodit you can be happy!!! And stinky cheese and wine Def not even close on happiness!!! Xx

fedupofrainydays Mon 24-Jun-13 19:12:08

cool that's great news! I shall celebrate with some wine and stinky cheese on your behalf!

muzzy2011 Mon 24-Jun-13 19:28:20

Oh wow congrats cool! Thats fab news! Wasn't this the month you only DTD once as well?! Was it near your ov date?

PastaBeeandCheese Mon 24-Jun-13 19:43:36

Congratulations coolhand that's brilliant news!!

winterpansy Mon 24-Jun-13 20:44:14

Hey all,
Just popping in to say hi.
Sorry again to see the lovely mummy and 2be back here but hopefully you will be back with us on the graduate thread soon.

I hope you don't mind me coming back to say hello -I know it's a sensitive time for eveyone and I don't want to be annoying people as I am upduffed but I do cheerlead for everyone to have bfps and join the other thread so like to check in from time to time.

About the cb opks - I used them for 2 months and got pg the second month. We dtd 6, 4, 2, 1 days before getting the smiley and also the day we got it. My dates say conception was the date of the actual smiley (which amuses me cos that means DC2 was conceived on the sofa!) so they worked for me.

abi So sorry the bitch got you but hopefully a new house will do the job and cheer you up - you can DTD in every room to mark your territory grin

Congrats to the BFPers - come join us on the nutjob antenatal thread.

Hope everyone else is doing ok!

AbiBub Mon 24-Jun-13 21:53:45

Hey ladies.

Hey you mummy and 2be the biggest hugest hugz coming from me right at this moment. I just wish I had a magic wand to make it all better. The only advice I can offer is that you both give yourself the time and space that you need and in the meantime if you need to come on here and vent, we'll all be here for you both.

Hey winter lovely. How are you? Yep AF bitch got me a good un this month. No, new house yet, I haven't started looking yet as have been busy with DS and his getting stuff ready and attending appointments for school for when he starts in sept, the possible house move when we find somewhere has come at completely the wrong time!! Hey ho, not much I can do!

pasta cool congratulations ladies! I bet you are really chuffed to bits! Thats fabby news!

Welcome donnab I hope you find this thread a handy place to outlet and vent/rant if you need to.

Hi muzzy hope the 2ww goes quickly for you!

Hey everyone else in here too! Hope you are all well.

Not much to report here as cd3 and getting bored waiting for the evil witch to vacate so we can get onto dtd you know the fun part of making babies I had this horrid nightmate last night that I couldnt get pg bcos I had started going through the menopause! ! Wouldnt be surprised as both my nan and my mum went through it in their late 30's early 40's :0/ I hope that's not the case

I wonder how long my cycle is going to be this month, hasnt been the same amount for the last 3 months! ! confused

Coolhand Mon 24-Jun-13 22:54:08

Thanks for kind wishes and all your lovely support.. Yes Muzzy just the once; typical, all those months we were trying so much - it was cd11 - wasn't using opks this month but think I ov around day 12.

Anyway ladies, 2 in one day; hoping that this begins a run of BFPs.

Dildoos I hope you're feeling better soon.

dildoos Mon 24-Jun-13 23:11:32

Evening all! What a difference a day makes, on positive thinking ! Should be referred to explore mc smile
Called Bourn have appt for 30/6/13 for consultation!
Got tabs to stop the heavy af and ironed up to the hilt !
Feeling pro active don't know if can take pregnCare conception too?
Smep I think I may try this!!
How's everyone?
2 bfps is really fAb I love a positive storey xx

fedupofrainydays Tue 25-Jun-13 08:11:47

We have DTD every day (twice yesterday) since Thursday and am feeling a bit knackered! Can't decide if its all worth it as it only takes one day as per cool's experience so maybe we should tone it down a wee bit. Thing is I can't, as panic if I miss a day then that could have been 'the one day' if you get what I mean. Oh well - just one more go tonight and then we are done for this month.

AbiBub Tue 25-Jun-13 08:28:57

Morning peeps!

dildoos glad you feel positive and happy! That will help for sure. Not sure whether you can take pregnacare in top of the other tabs, perhaps ring up your doc or nhs direct for an answer? That's great you have your appointment :0)

fedup the main thing is you're giving it your best shot pardon the pun and the main thing is you feel happy that you have tried your best. Being happy and not stressing at the most important times can make a real difference whether you dtd lots or just the once!! For me bcos I am not sure now when I ov as my cycles keep changing length I have decided to dtd every 3days, once af has finished and go as far into the cycle as I can possibly manage! That way it gives OH's swimmers a chance to 'brew' a little longer to become more strong but its not leaving it too long that they become weak and lazy. Well thats the plan anyway!!

How are we all this morning? :0)

dildoos Tue 25-Jun-13 09:06:06

Abi- does dp have low count as a rule? My dp does so wondering if to pinch your way of thinking? Makes sense! That's then only 10 times a month and not tooooooo much of an effort grin .
Fed up your doing your best! Will have everything crossed for your bfp !!! Xx

VikingLady Tue 25-Jun-13 11:50:07

Well, af arrived with a vengeance, 4 days late and exceptionally heavy sad But since DD just started German measles.... Maybe for the best. At least, that's what I'm telling myself.

dildoos Tue 25-Jun-13 12:35:13

Viking sad on both accounts! Hope dd gets well soon and the evil witch buggers off xx

Ninunina Tue 25-Jun-13 12:55:23

Why does AF keep on rearing her ugly head? Sorry to hear viking. Fingers crossed for next month.

I'm hoping the next week and a half passes very quickly so I can distract myself from obsessively POAS. Thankfully I've got a lot on so it should. It's the run up to my cousins wedding and we've got loads to do with dress maker fittings, rehearsals, pre-wedding parties and meeting family and friends that are arriving for the big day. There is also a heat wave where I live so a daily trip to the beach or a dip in the pool is compulsory (love being a SAHM in summer).
I'm feeling a bit silly today. I went to the fish market yesterday and bought my favorite fish swordfish! After I ate it I remembered that swordfish is a no no during pregnancy. Did I do something silly by eating it? I'm only 2 or 3 dpo... so hopefully it won't be harmful at this stage.
p.s. I'm back to hoping I'll be pregnant. My friends who is currently having a miscarriage with her first ivf attempt is coping amazingly well. She's ready to try again in September and is hoping for twins this time round. She has assured me she feels nothing but happiness when her friends announce their pregnancies so I shouldn't feel so guilty about things. She is a real inspiration I think. Life has thrown her a lot of crap these last couple of years and she's become a much stronger person as a result.

StoneBaby Tue 25-Jun-13 16:21:04

ninu don't worry for the fish. It can't rememver the guidelines but I'm sure eating swordfish once in a blue moon will not do any harm. Where do you live? (Just curious because of the heat wave)

Ninunina Tue 25-Jun-13 20:38:28

I live in Malta stone. I lived in the UK for ages so the hot summers are still quite a treat for me.

PastaBeeandCheese Tue 25-Jun-13 20:46:18

Jealous of your weather minunina. Think of us in the miserable UK!

dildoos Tue 25-Jun-13 20:50:36

Nin- dp you have a spare annexe then we could all come keep each other company there for that 2 ww grin

babyrose Tue 25-Jun-13 21:25:28

Hi everyone!

I'm 10dpo no symptoms expert increased cm. Usually have sore boobs, grumpy and tired. Strange!

StoneBaby Tue 25-Jun-13 22:02:38

ninu I'm an islander too. But in Guernsey so not as warm (orginally from France hence the bad English).

baby fx

Ninunina Wed 26-Jun-13 02:38:58

On second thoughts. .. I just remembered the worst thing about hot summers. ... MOSQITOS! The buggers just woke me up and have made me start symptom spotting. Feeling very crampy and nauseous. .. this is obviously because I'm awake at 3am and not early pregnancy related, but oh well grin

Tallalime Wed 26-Jun-13 17:34:15

2be I'm really sorry to see you back here, not in a bad way but you know what I mean xx

Just waiting for AF to arrive (due Mondayish) so I can book myself in for these fertility tests. DH has still not bloody booked his appointment, I am angry but know he will get arsey if I mention it again as I have told him already.

Why are men so blase about these things.

Sorry AF got you again stone the old witch, good luck with the extra dtding this month grin

Finally congrats to the new graduates, hopefully we'll all be seeing you on t'other fred soon.

2beornot Wed 26-Jun-13 20:29:44

Well I POAS this afternoon.

Not as bonkers as it sounds. It means my ERPC was successful and we can look toward ttc again. Though when I'll ovulate again who knows!!!

I almost bought OPKs today. I think my nuttiness is going to take a step up!

Congratulations to those who got BFPs this month. Good luck x x

muzzy2011 Wed 26-Jun-13 22:07:44

I POAS today too....I'm only 7 dpo!! Need to get a fecking grip....what was the point in that?! I just can't stop myself....and I'm going to be broke!

Good luck 2be...hopefully your cycles will get back to normal quickly.

fedupofrainydays Wed 26-Jun-13 22:18:04

Muzzy - I'm totally the same, although currently just 1 dpo and already thinking I have sore boobs and how long can I stick it out til I POAS!

2be - I too was relieved to get a bfn after mc and erpc. We waited for the 2 weeks they suggested before DTD to avoid infection. My cycles have been weird since but I know others who have pinged back to normal / got preggers straight away.

BartBaby Wed 26-Jun-13 22:23:17

Ha ha muzzy i nearly caved in but then counted my ic's that i have left (4) and an asda one aswell, and im not probably not going to by any more! So im trying to hold out until im at least in with a chance hmm even googled averge hgc levels at 8dpo and probability of a positive at that stage aswell...

Im getting some strange cramps/twinges/tightening in the lower abdomen which obviously ive convinced myself is implantation bleeding when its more than likely just trapped wind or something else just as ridiculous just trying to play mind games with me at the worst possible time.

Tallalime Wed 26-Jun-13 22:35:00

I am quite good at not poas... until the day AF is due, then I do and without fail AF turns up within the hour blush

I had really weirdly sore boobs for a week after ov this month, with a tingly burny feeling and now when AF is due on Monday, absolutely fuck all hmm

And to top off my glass half empty kinda week my cat has gone missing sad He's only 10 months and was my substitute baby, I am gutted. Keep going to the door and calling him neighbours must think I am batshit

muzzy2011 Wed 26-Jun-13 22:50:28

Phew I'm so glad I'm not the only one! I bought a pack of 2 (obviously!) I knew 1 wouldn't be enough....and I know I will do it in the morning and then no more until AF due!

I have really tried my hardest to find some symptoms but def have none! Unless you count sore boobs from repeatedly squeezing them to check for soreness?!
Isn't the 2ww shit!

muzzy2011 Wed 26-Jun-13 22:52:07

Oh talla I hope your cat comes home safely.

Coolhand Wed 26-Jun-13 23:12:16

Talla that sucks - hope your cat turns up soon - also glad you got appointment sorted for this month.

Fx for those in the 2ww.

fedupofrainydays Thu 27-Jun-13 07:55:31

I bought some hpt's off amazon and currently sitting in my bathroom cupboard. How long do you reckon I can wait til POAS. Currently 2 dpo and already tempted which is just ridiculous as know it wouldn't show. But there is totally no logic or sense to me right now!

talla hope your cat comes home soon. Keep calling him and don't worry what the neighbour think. Fx.

dildoos Thu 27-Jun-13 08:25:32

Talla- hope cat comes home soon !!!
For all that want to poas and think they are crazy I am tempted and would poas today I am still on af grin
Currently on day 5. 3 more to go and I will be trying smep ! << jumps up and down excitedly whilst dd watches>> x

StoneBaby Thu 27-Jun-13 08:41:00

fedup I would be waiting until 8 to 10 dpo but if the temptation is too big

For which cd do you start opk? I'm cd5 and don't really think it's worth it at the moment.

AbiBub Thu 27-Jun-13 09:12:16

Morning all!

talla hope your cat turns up soon, they like to be independent eh, ours used to do it every now and then just to keep us on our toes!!

Hope everyone in the 2ww it goes quick enough for you!
Everyone who is waiting for ov, hope that goes quick for you too. And everyone waiting for af to bugger off, well Ihope that goes quick enough too! I think that covers most of us nut jobs in here!! Cd6 here and waiting for af to do one!! Getting so tired lately, think it must be where I think too much feel like giving up on the whole baby making thing sad im also now worried that if I did by any slim chance fall pg and then we have to move how much more complicated it will become im do confused on what to do?! confused

StoneBaby Thu 27-Jun-13 10:50:49

abi take care and I hope af leaves you soon.

talla good luck with your DH. Men! They never seem to realize that if they were to comply we will not be nagging. I told My DH how upset I was not to be pg yet and his answer was it has not been that long. 12 months for me is f*** too long!!! <go out and scream>

Waves to all (I need to carry on working)

donnab1983 Thu 27-Jun-13 13:11:27

Hi All, just thought I would let you all know first response POAS's are buy one get one free at boots just now!

I've got to do one tomorrow to check my hormones have gone down following mc at the weekend, im kind of split between what I want it to say though!
If it still says positive, then there might be a slight glimmer that the baby is actually ok, on the other side if it's positive and I definately did mc then I'll have to go into hospital and go through those motions again, which I really don't want too!
Maybe best outcome would be that its negative, so my mc is fully complete and can start to try again!

muzzy2011 Thu 27-Jun-13 21:26:51

Thanks for the tip donna might have to go and get myself a couple of those! Sorry about your mc too.

Is it a pregnancy symptom to want to punch DH in the face...he is really getting on my nerves. Apart from that i think I imagined a tiny tiny bit of brown cm today but that's it's so far.

Sorry to hear you sounding blue abi...keep going and everything will work itself out I'm sure.

BartBaby Thu 27-Jun-13 21:40:28

Did you poas again today muzzy ?

I gave in and poas this morning. And im still no better off for it hmm ive spent the whole day trying to decide whether the v v v faint barely there line was even there at all or if it was a shadow or if im just seeing things! Im not holding my breath anyways...

muzzy2011 Thu 27-Jun-13 21:44:47

Of course bart! Def hint of a line. I said I wasn't going to do anymore but now I know about this boots offer i'll be off there in the morning to stock up!

I hope it is a v v v faint line you had. How many dpo are you?

donnab1983 Thu 27-Jun-13 21:54:54

Well I didn't wait till morning, and did a poas tonight, BFN, so at least I can move on properly. I am actually quite glad as the last time I ended up in hospital and it all went pretty disastrously so at least I don't have to go through that again.
Back to the TTC / JS xx

PastaBeeandCheese Thu 27-Jun-13 21:58:52

Popping by to say hello <waves>. bartbaby I got the faintest line you've ever seen the day after my AF was due. It took me until 5 days late to get a decent line. Totally different from DD who had a big line from the first test.

Good luck!!

BartBaby Thu 27-Jun-13 22:31:39

Im 9dpo today. So be 10dpo in the morning. Still early days but im going to have to do it again now ive started! Im thinking now that it was probably just a shadow or something. I had to put it in a certain light snd hold it up etc to see it hmm I darent get my hopes up just in case!

fedupofrainydays Fri 28-Jun-13 00:55:20

I so want a bfp this month. Losing heart. Losing strength and losing will to try any more. Next month it's a def see what happens as am fed up (hence name!) of ttc and I don't think I can deal with being mental anymore. Any one else feel like this?

Tallalime Fri 28-Jun-13 01:19:06

Looks like AF has turned up early this month hmm Typical

Once again I won't be able to sort these fertility tests, I am so pissed off angry

AbiBub Fri 28-Jun-13 08:53:29

Morning ladies.

talla sorry to hear af got you! Thats frustrating when you're waiting to get tests sorted too. I hope it comes right in the end. Hugz.

I know what you mean fedup its difficult not to get down when its just not happening. I have been feeling low too. I am sure it was never this difficult or upsetting when trying for our DS. But I guess we are all troopers for carrying on and we are certainly amazing to do this despite the knock backs every month. So I guess im trying to say, we should be proud of ourselves really. Bcos we do this, month in, month out and whilst we get down when its not the result we want, we just curse the af witch and pick ourselves up and carry on! ! So feel good about yourselves that we are doing so well!! And all this whilst running a house and looking after our kiddlywinks!! grin

How is everyone this morning?

dildoos Fri 28-Jun-13 08:54:03

Fed up - sad me too, too much heart ache. brewthanks For you. Now at gp feel need mental help. Big hugs to you x

Ninunina Fri 28-Jun-13 09:11:04

7 dpo and not a single symptom! Don't think it's happening this month sad

fedupofrainydays Fri 28-Jun-13 09:45:06

Thanks abi and dildo

Dildo - I went to gp and they said I needed counselling After bursting into tears when she asked if i was on the pill before prescribing me antibiotics. then it all came out! But I said I just wanted to be pregnant not talk over and over again about my mc and ttc since. Hope your gp is nice to you. Some are so insensitive whilst others understand how hard it is and want to help.

I like your thinking abi. Needed a bit of a boost. Just find it so hard as most things in life I can control and have managed to make choices about what happens - but not getting pregnant, that's so far out of my control despite doing all the right things every month. Also add doing a job to that list! I have had a really hard time at work recently so that's made it much harder to deal with not being pregnant too - cried on HR the other day. Gosh I have so much style.

So sorry talla I totally feel your pissed offness and disappointment. Although am in the 2ww now, I'm dreading it and af arrival. Big hugs for you x

Loanna Fri 28-Jun-13 13:13:10

Hello Ladies, Hope everyone is well. I've just started lurking here again after a few weeks. TTC was a bit non existent for me until start of June when I had my second 28 day cycle after coming of the pill in March. Used OPKs for the first time this this month which were fab. Af due today, no sign yet. just wanted some advice re boots cheapie HPKs. I used one Wed 10dpo and convinced myself that there was a v v v barely there line so tested again the next morning and BFN! Im going to now wait a few days to see if the bitch turns up if. Sorry for the long post x

BartBaby Fri 28-Jun-13 13:27:28

Welcome loanna i had my non existent v v v faint barely there line yesterday. And now this morning at 10dpo BFN! So i am also waiting for af to turn up now im sure she isnt far away

Loanna Fri 28-Jun-13 13:36:14

Hi Bartbaby, is there anything more frustrating than the 2ww? I think mine is due any minute too sad. Fingers crossed for both of us! x

StoneBaby Fri 28-Jun-13 13:59:20

abi you said it so well. smile

fedup I've done this too at my gp. She then asked me if I wanted AD shock

muzzy2011 Fri 28-Jun-13 14:09:18

Hi loanna Sorry i don't think I've used a boots one...I got the buy 1 get 1 free first response today. 1 done and a BFN sad
And I've just had pink spotting so think AF is on her way....that and pouring a saucepan of boiling water on my hand has led me to have a good cry!
I think I'm only 9dpo...part of me wishing its implantation but now I think my ov dates were wrong this month anyway. Plus I'm SO premenstrual!

talla did your cat come home?

Loanna Fri 28-Jun-13 16:06:42

Hi Muzzy sorry to here about your BFN sad it may still be too early for a BFP and your spotting may be an early pg symptom, you just never know until af arrives, its so frustrating. Keeping my fingers crossed for you. As I am writing this, I cant actually believe my eyes. I am watching a woman at least 7 months pg smoking and drinking. How could you even think about doing such a thing! Makes me so angry

BartBaby Fri 28-Jun-13 18:14:20

loanna my only good reason for af turning up this month is i will be glad to have a few [wines] in the sunshine on holiday in september! Wouldnt dream of doing it pg though...

Its still early days so you never know muzzy im right there with you with the bfn but clinging onto that final bit of hope that its too early for our bfp's to show waiting for af to show her ugly face

I hope everyone else is ok. We have ds minded tonight so were off out for a Thai and a few drinkies grin

AbiBub Sat 29-Jun-13 00:43:54

Hey ladies!

Last post before I nod off! Hope everyones fridays have been better than mine! Had a right old emosh day, and snapped at poor DS. Just feel wound up, I guess bcos I now have no control on what's happening with the latest house situation and our car is just pants etc and what with not being able to have control over pg it just all seemed too much today!! Just need to get my head in gear.

Thanks ladies, I posted that tjus morning bcos I just think we are all so fabby for doing what we are doing, we are willing to put our bods selflessly through a lot again, and willing to give our time and love and care to a second little special being and that in itself is amazing. Be proud of yourselves ladies, there aint nothing like us! And if it takes us a little longer to get there then it just shows how bloody determined us mummies can be, we are truly awesome!!

Hopefully those who are in the 2ww will get the BFP, and those dtd will be lucky and those like me who are waiting for af to bugger off will get the chance to start the fun bit of this baby making malarkey! !

Sweet dreams lovely's!

Loanna Sat 29-Jun-13 08:42:26

Morning ladies, hope everyone is well. Just thought I would check in as I had my BFP this morning smile I used first response, the line came up straight away. I'm 13 DPO when I tested at 10 & 11 DPO I had two BFN so Muzzy and Bart hang on in there it could be too soon. Keeping everything crossed for you x

BartBaby Sat 29-Jun-13 09:30:20

Wow congratulations Loanna grin

11dpo for me now and going to hold off testing a few days after yesterdays disappointment. But not holding out much hope. But you never know!

fedupofrainydays Sat 29-Jun-13 11:17:51

Congrats loanna!

I'm only cd 17 and about 4 dpo. Already symptom spotting making things up such as sore boobs, spots, feeling sick and tired, the usual. But do feel a bit negative about this month as been getting my hopes up too much the past few and then that nasty af arrives...

muzzy2011 Sat 29-Jun-13 18:27:51

Congrats Loanna! That's great news, good to know there is still some hope.
I'm still testing daily..10dpo and another bfn....I would like to say and mean it that I won't test tomorrow but I know I will!

Loanna Sat 29-Jun-13 18:51:37

Thank you everyone smile I Hope its not too much longer until everyone in this thread gets their BFPs x

BartBaby Sat 29-Jun-13 19:20:21

I gave in and tested today anyway. Obviously bfn! I didnt even use fmu hmm although i hadnt been for a few hours well it was my last internet cheapy anyway so no more poas for me unless af fails to show. Expecting her somewhere between monday and wednesday. Its ds birthday tomorrow so she doesnt want to bother coming then!

Ninunina Sat 29-Jun-13 20:19:11

Congratulations loanna we needed another bfp on this thread to noisy morale a bit. Hope we'll ask be joining you soon.
Bart fingers crossed that af won't arrive and you'll get a bfp with fmu the next time you POAS.
I'm not feeling like anything is happening this month. No symptoms at all. AF due in 1 week so maybe I'll dream up something over the next few days grin

Ninunina Sat 29-Jun-13 20:20:10

noisy morale = boost morale hmm

fedupofrainydays Sun 30-Jun-13 10:42:05

Omg still 10 days til af is due and am officially nutty. I spend most of my day symptom spotting but also know these are the same symptoms as I have had last few months so feeling pretty negative about it all. It is such a head f*ck.

I long for my pre ttc sanity. I was actually quite normal then!

Fx bart xx

muzzy2011 Sun 30-Jun-13 13:53:44

Another day another test! Have you done one bart?
I thought I saw a v.v. faint of those hold up to the light and squint lines. I think it's there but could be a evap line so I'll test again tomorrow!

BartBaby Sun 30-Jun-13 14:12:01

I havent tested again yet muzzy !! I think it will only be -ve anyway and its ds birthday today so dont want to be in a pants mood all day but mainly because i have no tests left grin i hope it is a line for you. Fx it is darker tomorrow.

Thanks fedup and ninu i will keep you all posted when i give in again and poas

dildoos Sun 30-Jun-13 20:11:15

Hey all,
Fed up hope your feeling a little better!
Bart- happy birthday to your ds and fx for you!
Muzzy I hope line is stronger next test smile
How is everyone else?
I am on day 8 ( according to smep it starts now grin. )
However went to gp and apparently it's only phase 3 fertility treatment we would have to pay for but all explorations to why 3 mcs and any drugs to help would be nhs so that's an up note so now we have a few months of appointments and tests starting wed with dp !
Still feel fed up and I shouldn't as now feel doing something active about it but want to be preggers NOW!
However up note the sun is shining at long lastgrin
Hugs to all xxx

fedupofrainydays Mon 01-Jul-13 07:46:05

Morning all,

Hope you are all well today.
muzzy any darker lines?

That's good dildo re the fertility tests. And know what you mean about doing something about it but also can't be bothered and just want to be pregnant!

So... Am in a bit of a dark place at the mo. I can cry on cue and just want to sleep though whole time. Even the sunny weather hasn't perked me up. I think it's the hormones of the 2 ww to be honest as happened last couple of months too, but put that down to stress at work. If this carries on I do think am going back to the dr for some happy pills as really struggling at the mo. I feel so guilty because I have a totally gorgeous dc so wish I could just get on and appreciate / enjoy him without all this psychotic behaviour!

You ladies are my saving grace. You understand my irrational thinking, nutty behaviour and symptom spotting, excessive POAS action - thank you.

What's making it worse is i have this NCT weekend coming up with all the families I met through DC1. All the others either have #2 or are up the duff. I'm dreading it, absolutely dreading it. I don't want to go. Not sure how well I can put on my happy face and join in the pregnancy chat / how life is or will be with a new born and a toddler. Ugh. Plus af is due on the Tuesday before so will prob be bleeding away and drowning myself in wine sad. I want dc to get the pox so we can't go - and means he gets pox out the way - is that bad?!?!

AbiBub Mon 01-Jul-13 09:11:29

Hey ladies!

Muzzy, hope you get a stronger line, kerp us updated?
Bart, hope af doesnt turn up for you, how was ds birthday yesterday? Happy birthday I hope a good day wad had by all!
Fedup, the 2ww us the worst huh! Dont worry, we have all been in that dark place and its not fun, but we are here if you need to completely rant! Lets hope the 2ww goes quick for you! Lets hope your af doesnt turn up, keeping fx here for you. I know what you mean about the pox thing, our ds hasn't had it yet, I went a bit nutty thinking I could have him play with his cousin who had it, then it would be out the waybefore he starts school, then I had to slap myself because I thought to myself, why would I want him to feel poorly! Lol!!! Silly abi I was! We all get a bit like it, give yourself some space, and dont be too hard on yourself! ! Also, if you dont eant to go to NCT then just don't go!
Dildoos, thats fabby news about the fertility tests and progress, I hope it all goes well for you and dp.
Loanna, congratulations, I better your chuffed!

How are we all today? Im cd9 today. Last night my DP and I started the fun bit of babymaking, dtd grin I am going with just dtd every 3 days, as I dont know when I ov now, as every month recently my cds have been different! ! I dont have opks even though im tempted to buy some cheapies and im not going to temp either, so just going to dtd and hope for the best --
I think ive gone way past the nutty stage and trying to keep it in my head-- have so much to concentrate on over the next few months,; DS due to start school, possible having to move feeling insecure about that , and now having to try and get a different car as ours is just pants and quite dangerous to drive at times as the electronic power steering keeps failing at the most wrong moments whilst driving along I fear my nuttiness has transferred to obsessing about these things instead now ahhhhhhhh phewf, and breath abi!! Sorry, have completely ranted!! I shall go! Hope you all have a good day! :0)

AbiBub Mon 01-Jul-13 09:47:33

Ok, im going slightly mad now ladies, I started af the saturday before the last sat ( 22nd june) im having a complete dippy moment, which cd does that make me today?? Ive looked at calendar and when I count sat 22nd to Saturday 29th physically, I come up with 8, yet surely thats a week (7days?) Yep now im going nutty!! confused

StoneBaby Mon 01-Jul-13 11:15:49

abi a week is 7 days but as you count the day af arrives as 1, you will now be on cd10.

fedup take care

dild good that you're getting sorted.

I'm now on cd9 (just behind you abi) and aiming to dtd on Thursday (DH is away for the weekend) and then Sun or Mon (ov should be Tuesday 9th). I just need to tell DH that I'm expecting actions more than once this month confused

BartBaby Mon 01-Jul-13 11:30:57

abi 7 days in a week would be saturday to the following friday. Including sat 29th is the 8th day. So today you will be cd10 if af came on the 22nd. Its all very confusing isnt it?! Im sick of dates and numbers and cd's going round in my head! Im going to try not to track anything this month and just dtd for fun when we feel like it. And no opk's. although im sure i will still be constantly looking at the calender

DS had a great birthday thanks smile and my temp has dropped so im sure af will be here today or tomorrow. Also im in the worst mood today and thats a tell tale sign!

muzzy2011 Mon 01-Jul-13 12:22:19

Sorry to hear you are so fed up fedup. abi is right, don't go to the meet up if you don't want sounds like it would be really hard.

No darker line here...I took yesterday's test apart (as you do) and there is a definate line but it is completely colourless! I know there has to be some pink for a bfp so think it was a dud test? This morning a BFN and I feel like AF is nearly here sad
And next month dH is away on business for all of the crucial time!! Maybe a month off will do me good though....I agree all the number counting and date checking is exhausting!

AbiBub Mon 01-Jul-13 12:51:22

Oooh thanks stone and bart that means I wasnt going completely mad!!

stone hopefully DH will be a bit more forthcoming on the dtd part this month! Fx for you! grin

bart im fed up of all the dates too! Ive just written the numbers on my calendar and then thats it! I too had a feeling my af was due before it arrived as my temp drops to my base temp a couple of days before my af thats just been! Although I sm hoping your thermometer is completely wrong!!! wink

AbiBub Mon 01-Jul-13 12:53:55

Oooh poop muzzy I was really hoping that af wouldnt get you and still secretly hoping she doesnt keep us updated? smile

dildoos Mon 01-Jul-13 18:52:54

Hi ladies!

Muzzy- that's poo! I have everything x for you!

All those in the 2 ww I am feeling for you!

I have dp going to gp for first part of his test wed grin
On the 12th I have again a 21 day bloods and a swab for horrid diseases , deep joy confused
However holding hopeful for my first trial with SMEP this month, just got me some clear blue ovulation test sticks 7 in a pack with a pregnancy test too grin eeeerk how many times can I poas so exciting!
So day 9 today DTD last night , night off tonight woohoo guilt free night off which is nice as sticking to the plan rather than every night and being tired!
What's everyone else trying this month? X

fedupofrainydays Mon 01-Jul-13 19:41:46

Thanks ladies. I think I'm going to see how I feel the day before and take it from there... It's been a dark day couple of days but starting to feel ok this afternoon.

So we DTD day 6 then every day from day 9 to 14 (pos opk on day 12) then again on day 16. Bit of a marathon for us to be honest!

Think next month I'm SmEP properly (not just at the end!!)

Sorry for the bfn muzzy but it ain't over til that fat evil lady sings. Fx for you.

I think I might go ask for tests soon if I don't get up duffed soon. I think I can get it through my health insurance at work and it will make me feel like I'm doing something constructive rather than sitting about in a horrid dark place feeling totally out of control of the situation. I think dildo has got the right idea!

bart glad your son had a lovely birthday! And fx for no stupid af arrival this month and bfp!

Have a good evening ladies xx

dildoos Mon 01-Jul-13 19:59:12

Fed up- I think it will help you then have a date to work too and I see a date as a focus other than a baby although for that ? If you know what I mean? If we focus on a date to help get a baby it may mean the focus on trying for a baby will relax and we will just get pregnant? Yup that sounds as crazy as it is gringringringrin
I hope your dark days are lifted a little these are for you thanks
I am thinking if I fall this month it will be due on dd birthday and would not be ideal so therefore it may happen wink xx

muzzy2011 Mon 01-Jul-13 22:30:07

dildoos hope all the tests go well! What is smep??
fedup you seriously deserve to be up the duff this month with that effort! Fx for you.

Thanks abi...maybe next time hey! Got AF cramps and sure it will be arriving tomorrow....I didn't even buy a test for the morning and that really says something for me!

dildoos Mon 01-Jul-13 22:38:03

Muzzy you never know there maybe still hope! Everything crossed !

Smep- sperm meets egg plan
Day 8 start Dtd every other day , start ovulation tests day 10, once get a surge Dtd 3 days running then a day rest then one last go!

However will keep going every 3 days I think then xx

Ninunina Tue 02-Jul-13 05:55:34

Fedup I'm sorry you're feeling so down. TTC can get you feeling really anxious and getting some counselling is nothing to be ashamed of. Hopefully you'll get your BFP soon and you'll feel much better. My DD was conceived after trying SMEP. If I'm not pregnant this month I will certainly try it again.
I'm still not feeling very pregnant. AF is due on Saturday and I'm praying it won't arrive. I'm a bridesmaid on that day and really don't want a swollen tummy on the day. The only thing that I'm feeling is I have sore nipples. I'll test on Saturday morning to be sure. If not it's champagne for me at the wedding grin

dildoos Tue 02-Jul-13 07:18:41

Good morning
Nin- bridesmaid sounds like a fun day, although fx for bfp Saturday! Double celebration grin

Day 10 poas - faint line and dark line means not quite ovulating yet but will do again tomorrow but on smep have to DTD tonight smile

Fed up hoping you don't get to try smep next month wink

Hope your all well


fedupofrainydays Tue 02-Jul-13 07:25:10

I love dildo's logic - think of all the scenarios of why a due date wouldn't be ideal... Then it might happen! Although one cycle (I'm obsessed with looking at potential due dates) and I would have been due Christmas Day! Not ideal but it didnt happen! If I did get preggers this month EDD would be around my mum's birthday.

So I don't know when to test. Although am not feeling hopeful we have our company away days this thurs and Friday and usually involves a drunken event on the thurs and extreme sports on the Friday! Af due on mon or tues... What should I do? So don't think I'm up duffed this month tho.

Although I don't want to go on this nct weekend thing, I'm being looked too to help organise all the food etc. bleurgh. On the plus side, calculations for 25 people will distract me from counting cycle days!

nin hopeful for a bfp on sat! But guess the plus side on bfn is champagne bubbles galore - well lets tell ourselves that! ! I love a good wedding and being a bridesmaid is fun (apart from stressful hen do organisation and if there was a bridezilla!!) bet you look lovely in the BM dress too. X

BartBaby Tue 02-Jul-13 08:40:09

Well the witch got me during the night. Bang on time and just as i expected.

Not actively trying this month although not stopping it either so im going to try not to count the dates, no opk's, not checking my calender every 2 minutes, no temp taking, and no recording moods and symptoms well im going to try all of this but im not sure how well it will work yet looking forward to my holiday in september and just thinking about all of the positives in not being upduffed when we go.

I will still be lurking though so good luck to all those dtd and in the 2ww smile

dildoos Tue 02-Jul-13 14:43:00

Sorry Bart that the af camesad
Bloody hideous this ttc lark! X

AbiBub Tue 02-Jul-13 15:04:36

Hey ladies!

Sorry af got you bart although if it was inevitable this month then its better that the evil witch is on time. Sometimes I think its far worse if she's running a few days late if she is planning to arrive, at least if she is bang on time then dates etc are easier to work out! !

Hope all in the 2ww aren't going to nutty, and hope you get the result you would like!

All those in the dtd stage, fx for the lot of us!! And all waiting to dtd hope the fun times are able to proceed very soon!! grin

Next dtd for me is tomorrow I think -well I know it is but trying to stay nonchalant about it-- im not sure if this month will be my month, but shall wait and see, although if it is edd would be quite close to our DS I think confused

How are we all today? x

muzzy2011 Tue 02-Jul-13 15:47:45

Sorry to hear that bart. We can endure the 2ww together again next month! No AF but she is defiantly close I reckon! I'm not testing again anyway as an sick of spending all my spare time staring at bloody sticks!

onelittlepiglet Tue 02-Jul-13 16:12:02

Hello, I've been lurking in this thread a bit as we are trying for #2 and I'm also going a bit mad with it all! May i join you?

Got pg first time for #1 so stupidly though it might be as easy this time round.... I now wish we had started trying earlier but we had a stressful few months with house moves and things and have only felt ready the last few months.

Fedup - all my NCT friends have either had their second or are pregnant too. I understand how you feel!

Really hoping we all get BFPs soon!

fedupofrainydays Tue 02-Jul-13 17:00:07

piglet welcome to the nutty pages. Sorry that you are here, this ttc stuff is stressful and makes us all a bit crazy (and in my case at the mo, utterly miserable!) but we are all here for each other through it all!

bart so sorry the witch got you this month. And impressed with your ability to see the silver lining! Looking forward to holidays is a good start but til aug for a potential bfp!

Ok, so just went to Boots on way home and cracked when I saw the first response buy one get one free, and sucker for a bargain I thought why not? Help me please not test as I know how shite it is when they come back bfn. I am not even hopeful for this month as you all know but am just obsessed with POAS! 7 days til af due so ridiculous that am even thinking bout it. Help! Don't let me do it!

fedupofrainydays Tue 02-Jul-13 17:04:48

*still aug for bfp I meant

dildoos Tue 02-Jul-13 18:36:34

Fed up go get a stick from garden grin poas and see if it helps the craving?!
The month your not hopeful is always the month in my theory so test In 7 days grin
Fx for your not testing early as way to early on any test! I think they say 7 days before missed af just to sell twice the amount!
However all hail the bargain good to grab when you see it as you will need it !

dildoos Tue 02-Jul-13 18:37:39

Sorry I can only deal with a few updates at a time lol but a huge welcome to you one little, sorry you are here under the circumstances but very glad of your company xx

dildoos Tue 02-Jul-13 18:44:52

On a proud mummy moment dd in swimming lesson was learning to help someone drowning in deep water, such a valuable skill and keeps saying over and over how to help them.
Mummy you shout loud for help, throw underarm something that floats to them, you tell them hold on with two hands and kick your legs to the edge, you tell them hold on to the side, but mummy if they say help me out you say no help is on its way, do you know why mummy? It's so they can't pull you in too!

Arrrrrgggggghhhhh to cute!

Sorry just proud proud proud.


muzzy2011 Tue 02-Jul-13 19:12:29

Ah sweet dildoos - he sounds like he will be an excellent rescuer!

fedup don't do it! I peed on 6 sticks before AF due and each bfn made me more depressed...

Welcome onelitle to the madness.

fedupofrainydays Tue 02-Jul-13 19:14:12

Ok ok i haven't done it. Safely locked in the cupboard. Plus am away rest of this week so should be able to resist (she says) at least til the weekend

That's really cute about your daughter and no wonder you are proud! X

muzzy2011 Tue 02-Jul-13 19:19:13

sorry she not he!

dildoos Tue 02-Jul-13 19:51:06

That's ok muzzy she does act more like a he than she lol grin
Well done fed up well held! Just a few more days and then pee away grin

Ninunina Tue 02-Jul-13 20:41:33

dildoos your dd sounds adorable. It's a very valuable skill to learn too.

Welcome to the nut house piglet. The only rule of the house is nuttiness grin

Talking about nuttiness, since this morning I'm suddenly dreaming up a whole bunch of symptoms. .. maybe I'll cave and do a test before Saturday. Is 11dpo too early to test (especially since I've had no symptoms before this morning).

StoneBaby Tue 02-Jul-13 21:33:57

piglet welcome. We're a bunch of butters so feel free to rant about dtd, opk,... with us

bart sorry af turn up

fedup good luck this month

Still haven't told told DH we could dtd on Thursday before he goes away. He know ov dayis next Tuesday tho. Still going to opk this month. Will I be the only one to use opk this month???

Tallalime Tue 02-Jul-13 22:43:35

Hello all grin

Welcome piglet - hope you won't be here too long, in the nicest possible way wink

My cat baby came home -yay!! - of course the sod turned up mere hours after we'd stuck missing posters up everywhere, so poor DH had to retrace his steps taking them all down. Typical.

I went to the GP surgery on Friday and had my initial day 1/2 bloods done, now have to wait for 2nd test on cd21 but at least the ball is rolling. Also have to stare daggers at DH until he books his bloody appt too angry

DD has her roll over day thing at school tomorrow so she is a yr 1 for the day. She is very excited, I just can't believe that reception has gone so quickly. It only seems five minutes since she was a toddler. She's decidedly teenage already confused Where has my baby gone having said that I do hope that she keeps her clothes on more as a teenager

dildoos Tue 02-Jul-13 22:47:21

Talla- our daughters are at the same stage now entering year 1, I feel your teenage pain and the lack of clothes although the lack of clothes betters the 9 month phase of swim suit and goggles ! Everywhere even spare clothes at nursery were swim suits!!!

dildoos Tue 02-Jul-13 22:48:36

Also what 1/2 bloods? I am about to have 21 days on the 12/7/13 is there more I should have? Xxx

Tallalime Wed 03-Jul-13 12:46:48

Hi Dildoos

I had original 21 day bloods at one year ttc. Now we're 16 months ttc so I am having bloods done cd1/2 - testing hormone levels, thyroid etc, then they redo the cd21 bloods. I suppose it gives a clearer picture of levels over the entire cycle.

DH has to have a sperm function test too, once all the results are back we are referred to the fertility clinic. I am 33 so not sure if they're doing it all early for that reason grin

fedupofrainydays Wed 03-Jul-13 17:08:37

Another day, another pregnancy announcement. Just never my own sad

muzzy2011 Wed 03-Jul-13 17:44:00

Hi all
Ouch fedup was it someone you were expecting?

Well I'm feeling slightly unhinged and mental today, nearly burst into tears in superdrug when some old dear pushed in front of me in the queue. Still no BFP or AF and I feel like I'm getting flu but too scared to take ibuprofen even though I feel 0% pregnant. Sorry rant over.

dildoos Wed 03-Jul-13 17:51:59

Fed up sadangryhmm all at once that's just pants! X
Muzzy sorry your feeling it too sad

fedupofrainydays Wed 03-Jul-13 19:25:24

Quite true of emotions there dildo. I'm hoping soon i can numb to this pregnancy news rather than it hitting me over the head with a hammer like it is these days.

Yes and no muzzy. I knew she was trying and falls quickly. This is her third. but then I saw her a few weeks back and she lied to me saying she wasn't pregnant. I understand why she did really but also annoyed that she pretending she was still trying with me if you get what I mean. I feel a bit patronised and a bit stupid!! I thought we were good enough friends for her to tell me even if not at the 12 week point rather than pretend, as if she did have a mc I know she would have told me. Am I making any sense?

Sorry no af and no bfp either. Thats the worst form of bfn to deal with. Could you have ov'd late this month? Do you know how many dpo you are?

That old dear would have got a bit of a fright if you had cried! For some reason, old people think its their right to queue barge when really they can afford to hang about! Big hugs for you and a bfp comes up!

muzzy2011 Wed 03-Jul-13 19:47:25

That sucks and yes it does make sense. I would feel the same.

I'm pretty sure I'm either 13 or 14dpo so I'm sure a test would show by now. I have a superdrug one for the morning so no doubt will be crying into my cornflakes by 7am!

dildoos Wed 03-Jul-13 19:49:06

Fed up I know exactly what you mean! My last friend told me at 15 weeks and in mean time I had been through range of emotions so felt awkward?!
Sil said it early but decided to ask what appointments I had for my fertility first so again felt awkward as you feel vulnerable! Lucky both times told me on my own so didn't feel like 1000 eyes watching for my reaction which of course was an over the top wow congrats how exciting can't wait sort of affair ( covering the yoooooooouuuuu bitch! Expression grin)

fedupofrainydays Wed 03-Jul-13 20:09:44

Ah glad it's not just me. I find it upsetting when it's your close friends that haven't told you but worse 'pretended' with you / endeavoured to empathise when really they are holding a secret that they are already pregnant. Am sure none of this is deliberate but it's how it makes me feel.

Muzzy - I so hope it's bfp. But I do know people who have been 15 / 16 dpo til it's turn bfp. So fx for you. Particularly as watery cornflakes are pretty yuk wink.

Sitting here watching sky plus'd million pound drop and getting VERY annoyed with Davina. Any one else find her this irritating? Even my rebellious bottle of beer isn't helping to ease the pain. At least I can fast forward her...!!

onelittlepiglet Wed 03-Jul-13 20:35:49

I know how you feel - it feels like everyone I know of similar age to me is pregnant, about to give birth or has just given birth! I blame Facebook for making it worse seeing photos of everyone rubbing their bumps whereas normally I might not see some of them very often so it wouldn't be so annoying.

dildoos Wed 03-Jul-13 20:36:48

Agreed cornflakes are not good soggy!
Fx muzzy and toes and legs and will plait my hair !
Fed up it must feel like they tricked into sharing your feelings that's so delicate at the mo!
No davina here watching come done with me grin

Liquidambar Wed 03-Jul-13 20:44:33

Hi ladies,

can I join you? not officially ttc yet but already nuts! I will have the coil removed soon but already using opks and monitoring - haven't managed to understand my cycles which are very irregular.

good luck to everyone

StoneBaby Wed 03-Jul-13 21:26:59

fedup that's not on. But could she not have been aware until recently? (Sorry I'm trying to play the devil advocate)

muzzy fx

I'm starting opk tomorrow

fedupofrainydays Wed 03-Jul-13 22:09:32

stone I thought that too initially but you don't 'not know' when you are trying and she would have been 8 weeks when i saw her. And looking back, i suppose I can see it now that she was.. Don't want to ask her about it over text so guess it will wait til I see her next.

Happy opk tomorrow - I miss POAS! I have til Tuesday to wait (or af rocks up)

fedupofrainydays Thu 04-Jul-13 07:20:54

muzzy just checking in to see what state the cornflakes are in? I hope you are ok and there is a nice suprise with POAS this morning x

muzzy2011 Thu 04-Jul-13 08:13:16

Hi fedup- its soggy cornflakes im afraid as AF arrived in the night sad although I actually feel ok as I knew it was coming but there's always that bit of hope isn't there and it was driving me a bit bonkers so I'm glad just to get on with it now!

And all is not lost this month DH will be back on cd16 and I seem to ov on cd18 so am going to get him to the DTD every day when he's back!

Fx for all those in the 2ww!! x

muzzy2011 Thu 04-Jul-13 08:27:33

Oh and welcome liquid. I like that your nuts before you've even started!

dildoos Thu 04-Jul-13 08:48:05

Morning ladies!
Muzzy do not like the soggy cornflakes or the rude awakening! angrysad
However the dh just before ov I envyenvyenvy
Welcome liquid smile
Fed up how you feeling today?
Hello everyone else xx

dildoos Thu 04-Jul-13 08:49:44

Stone good luck with opk! Still nothing here on clear blue line tests on day 12 I hope something happens within 4 days as I will have robust more if not hmm

AbiBub Thu 04-Jul-13 09:18:28

Morning peeps!

Muzzy sorry to heat af got you in the night, as you say though at least you know where you stand now which is most deffo better than being in limbo for sure!!

Fedup that is truly a pants thing, you must have felt upset for sure, I know I would have done, some people just don't understand or even consider how other maybe feeling with the actions the execute. You will just have to grant her the same grace maybe in not telling her when you get a bfp, then she may have an understanding of you felt. Put that thought of the feeling she gave you in an envelope and post it to the other side of the world hun, you concentrate on you now, fully deserved! !

Welcome liquid! Good to hear with have new nutters coming in!!

Ok, so I know im not temping or opking or what not but I have a little ov calendar that I just found on tinternet!! Dtd last night and this morning I have pale pink spotting so I think I may have irritated it or something? ! Im only cd12 yesterday, anyone else had this? Im just keeping to the dtd every 3days and hoping for the best!!

How is everyone today?

AbiBub Thu 04-Jul-13 09:20:06

Omgosh I so am not awake! Sorry, half of that doesnt make sense!!!!

dildoos Thu 04-Jul-13 11:53:13

Abi we are aday apart grin
I believe I had that about 9 months ago sort of blood in jelly?
I have to Dtd tonight as every other day grin
Still I am waiting to kick off ovulation test however.

onelittlepiglet Thu 04-Jul-13 13:41:50

Dildoos - I'm on cd 13 too and also need to DTD tonight! Also waiting for a positive opk....nothing yet although I feel like ov is just about to happen and my temp dropped a bit today....

dildoos Thu 04-Jul-13 14:35:23

One little grin
Oh so maybe next day or so we will get opk! You doing smep too?

StoneBaby Thu 04-Jul-13 17:32:44

I'm cd 12 so it looks like we're following each others grin

onelittlepiglet Thu 04-Jul-13 17:35:45

Yes I'm kind of doing smep although i didnt plan to - we only started DTD on day 9 rather than day 8 but have done ok so far. Although I'm not sure if my Dh will be up for three nights in a row when i get a positive opk....he looked a bit scared when I told him we had to do that!

There will lots of us 2ww at the same time hopefully!

dildoos Thu 04-Jul-13 17:46:33

Stone - glad we all have to hold out the 2 ww together!
One little- I can't imagine a day would make all that big a deal? But the same horror face was seen on dp about the 3 days running! Has anyone done the raise your legs thing? I don't know weather to headstand on the 3 in a row attempts?!

Sad sad sad news my sil miscarried today I actually cried as if we're me poor poor girl feel really bad for her sad she has to be admitted to hospital for the tablets Saturday pm sad

On an up note the weather is blooming lovely today xx

onelittlepiglet Thu 04-Jul-13 17:55:16

Oh dildoos that's really sad news - I'm so sorry for your poor sil. It is heartbreaking - two of my sisters have had miscarriages, one was at about 16 weeks. I hope that she is ok.

I do admit to raising my legs after blush but I usually just put a pillow under my bum and rest for a few mins rather than lift them right up in the air!

dildoos Thu 04-Jul-13 18:37:31

One little I thought I raised it but may do legs up the head board lol.
Thank you for your well wishes I will pass them on to her! X

fedupofrainydays Thu 04-Jul-13 18:44:20

Headstands are my forte!! Although my core strength has dwindled in recent years so cannot be sustained for long periods!

dildo so sorry to hear bout your SIL. Hope she's ok. Mc is the worst thing that's ever happened to me, its horrendous so I totally know what she's going through.

Thanks abi it made total sense what you said, even early morning!

muzzy sorry it was bad news re af. Silly witch. Fx for next month.

I'm feeling a bit better today thanks. Got a terrible hormone spot on my chin but feeling less dark. Although my hotel room for the night is room 101! Only me.

Going to not drink much tonight... As worked out hangover depression is just the worst at the moment.. Although i have a habit when there is a company tab to go a little crazy until 4am! I'm sticking to just beer tonight, no wine. Hoping that will keep me safe and to just a few and I'm full after a pint! You will prob all tell me not to drink as am in the 2 ww but if I don't have any the whole company will think i am pregnant! Just a couple. And don't think am pregnant as feel nothing. Despite the hideous volcano on my face. Not entirely sure why I am justifying having a drink to you ladies but I am. Think I'm bad if you like. (And just remembered I had Parma ham for lunch, another cardinal sin wink

Have a good evening and some good shagging for those of you on it tonight! X

dildoos Thu 04-Jul-13 19:06:30

Fed up we can't put our lives on hold for ttc grin
I am cycle 29 I think I would officially be tee total if I'd have quit I just drink little and often grin
Enjoy your night, my theory is we are not needing to join AA and not drug addicts and they seem to get up diffed so if a bit of Parma ham, Brie, pâté , nuts, alcohol and a rare steak with a lightly poached egg is consumed them I say what the hell!

However I did crave peanut butter with dd and couldn't stop eating it and thought nothing of it until I found out she has a nut allergy! Oooops


muzzy2011 Thu 04-Jul-13 19:13:54

Sorry about your sil dildoos. Mc are hurrendous things to go through.

I def won't be telling you not to drink fedup....i do in the 2ww...not that I get smashed every night but if I had a big do on I would! Have a good night!

Hello abi...sorry I haven't had that. I hope this is your month.

dildoos Thu 04-Jul-13 19:33:55

Thank you muzzy, I felt awful as just cried too ! Not very supportive at all! Think it brings back that remembering how hideous it feels! Poor girl x

onelittlepiglet Thu 04-Jul-13 19:40:48

Just got a positive opk so Dh had better keep his word tonight!

I have the odd drink even during 2ww. Not loads but a glass of wine etc shouldn't be harmful. Before I realised I was pg with dd, i thought af was about to show up because i had cramps and was grumpy, so I met a friend on friday night for dinner and it turned into a bit of a drinking session. On the sunday I realised I was actually 2 days late and got a BFP when I tested....blush

BartBaby Thu 04-Jul-13 20:04:08

I agree we cant put our lives on hold when ttc. If we give up all the good stuff and then takes years, its going to be a pretty lousy few years! Ds was a total accident. One weekend 'back in the day' me and dh (or dp as it was then) went to a house party, got totally smashed, went home sometime the next day, and found out i was pregnant on the monday! And he turned out just fine grin so really dont worry about it.

Well af only hung around for 2 days again for me (some of you will remember me blabbing on about it and wondering if the light af's mean there isnt enough blood to hold a little bean) but i went to the docs anyway and she didnt seem concerned. Just said all the usual stuff about hormones needing time to get back to normal etc etc. So im hoping that by the time we have had our few months off well no opk's anyway it will have sorted itself out. If not i can go back once its been 6 months.

Sorry for those caught by af. And good luck to those about to dtd. Dh has been away all week and im missing him now if you get what i mean! Looking forward to the dtd stage again grin

fedupofrainydays Fri 05-Jul-13 01:21:56

bart I do think its a good thing the doc isn't worried. As annoying as it sometimes feels - as you want answers / solutions etc. sometimes time is the answer. And that's what I think I've been wrestling with. Just thought I'd conceive straight after mc like the other two times, but no - my body and hormones are taking their time to adjust. And to be fair to it, I was 3 months pregnant. V hard though.

So... I feel quite proud. I've left the bar at 1 am and am not smashed - hurrah! I avoided the jägerbombs and although deviated from by beer... It's to nothing too extreme so I better feel on tomorrow!

Good to hear all your stories about living normal lives. Me too... I was actually voted most drunk couple at a wedding ( with DH of course) 2 days before bfp with ds! Champagne cocktails at 5 am was a GREAT idea at the time. And he's turned out just fine.

Dildo - re nut allergy, it seems the advice is forever changing. Sometimes it is eat it during pregnancy, other times avoid. I too had a peanut butter thing going on and read it was ok to est and ds is fine with nuts so it might not be due to your PB eating that caused dd to have her nut allergy...

Sleep well ladies x

fedupofrainydays Fri 05-Jul-13 15:41:15

Ok don't feel good now. Home, cracked and POAS. Bfn sad

muzzy2011 Fri 05-Jul-13 18:27:54

fedup it's still early days remember! How many dpo are you?

fedupofrainydays Fri 05-Jul-13 19:08:59

10 dpo. But it was first response (if that makes any difference?!)

Also just got annoyed by someone who has dd same age as my ds posting on fb about 'what double buggy to I get?' bleurgh.

Anyway, enough of my moaning and ranting... How is everyone else? Feeling as nutty as me today?

muzzy2011 Fri 05-Jul-13 19:22:07

10dpo is still early even with first response...haha I should really take my own advice! And it wasn't your first wee of the day! Sorry cant remember the abbreviation for that!

I keep wondering if my boobs are sore and then remembering I have AF. am drinking wine tonight to try and relax!

fedupofrainydays Fri 05-Jul-13 20:06:26

We would have it sorted if we all listened to our own advice wink

Good plan re wine. Don't watch the tennis though, will stress you out!!

StoneBaby Fri 05-Jul-13 20:07:57

So I did not opk yesterday as DH is now away for the weekend and we didn't dtd as he was too drunk tired. So my first opk this month will be cd 15 (Sunday) as ov should be cd16 or 17. (FX it'll be like the last 3 months)

muzzy shame af turned up

fedup 10 dpo may still be too early. With DS I was BFN with ERFR the day before af was supposed to arrive. And yes to drinking during 2ww, our lives are already miserable during that time so we need alcohol! grin

bart af normally lasts 3 days for me (but it's linked to using a mooncup as they were much longer before sorry TMI)

dildoos sad for your sil

Ninunina Sat 06-Jul-13 00:04:21

hmm not quite sure if I'm out of the game this month or not. AF may be making a very slow appearance. I have had the slightest bit of Brown CM when I wipe since last night but no proper AF yet. Will test if she hasn't arrived tomorrow. I really hope it's just implantation bleeding but I know that's quite unrealistic. If the witch does arrive at least I can indulge in some bubbly at the wedding. I have been quite naughty for the past couple of nights and had a few cocktails at parties but only cos I thought AF was here.

dildoos Sat 06-Jul-13 07:07:32

Good morning ladies

Nin-test test test that's norm for a bfp when levels are not quite high enough to stop af at first and brown bleeding old blood smile

Fed up- test wouldn't show yet am sure and fr say early but I don't think they work but only my opinion as never worked for me.

Muzzy- hope the sore boobs have gone! Is the af nearly over so you can get back on with DTD?

Stone- thank you for your well wishes will pass them on! Poor sweetheart has her appt tonight , going with her for support, any ideas of what to take as a pick you up bag? Thinking choc, trashy mags, anything else?

Still haven't managed to kick off ovulation test ? So looking like I may need some more grrrrr!
Does anyone have an expensive fertility monitor? If so is it worth me investing in one?

Today is the weekend and the sun is shining ! It's going to be a nice day except tonight at 8 for sil appt!

Happy weekend ladies xx

onelittlepiglet Sat 06-Jul-13 12:05:10

Hmmm can anyone help me with this or reassure me? I'm a bit confused.....I have had positive opk for two days running (cd13 and 14) and had awful ovulation pains yesterday (cd14) but my temp hasn't ally risen today and I'm really worried that I haven't actually ovulated... Is this normal? I thought that my temp usually rises up the day after I ovulate. Should we just carry on DTD (if we can muster the energy...)?

Oh dear I think I've managed to stess myself out that I'm not ovulating...

BartBaby Sat 06-Jul-13 19:23:26

Hi piglet if you had a positive opk yest and the day before you might not have ov until last night or today even. So i expect your temp will go up in the next day or 2. I wouldnt worry about it! I'd still dtd today and tomorrow though if you can manage it grin

Nothing new to report here. Had a brilliant day at Croft's Circuit in the sunshine and saw Andy Sugden off Emmerdale racing!

Hope you are all havig a fab weekend grin

Ninunina Sun 07-Jul-13 16:25:55

I'm afraid I don't know enough about ovulation sticks and tempting piglet. I'm going to have to learn about it though since ttc did not work for us this month. AF arrived yesterday just after I POAS. The witch could have come a little bit earlier so I didn't waste a perfectly good clear blue test.
So. .. my plan for cycle 2 is to try SMEP and start temping and charting on FF. Hopefully it will work, but I'm still taking the if it happen its great, if it doesn't I'll continue enjoying the summer in style approach.

StoneBaby Sun 07-Jul-13 19:00:09

Just opk which was neg but it was a very diluted wee and also I never get the mid smiley on cb. Will now have to try to convince a very tired DH to dtd tonight! hmm

fedupofrainydays Sun 07-Jul-13 22:06:54

Try not to worry piglet. I don't temp but I opk and often get a positive for two days on the trot then goes by the third. Try not to panic as that can delay ovulation - the stress / panicking.

Keep DTD everyone - hopefully the Wimbledon win will spur you on!!!

Af due tomorrow or Tuesday (not sure which) but am scared now. I so don't want to see it.... But feel it coming hmm and although not particularly hopeful - our shagathon was mega this month so will be gutted our efforts were wasted. I HATE the 2 ww. Wonder if next time i could just sleep for two weeks and wake up and get a bfp?! I can dream.... wink

AbiBub Mon 08-Jul-13 00:35:43

Evening (or should I say morning wink ) ladies!

Sorry haven't been in here for a bit, I have been trying to read all the posts but brain has gone to mush filling out and signing school forms this evening!

Ninu that had happened to me a few times where I poasand then af turns up, sods law huh. Sorry you got af but so good to see you are still ccontinuing on in good spirits smile

Fedup I am keeping fx that af doesn't make an appearance for you for all the right reasons smile keepus posted?

Stone hope you managed to get dtd in tonight grin

Dildoos how is your sil please send on hugz from me.

How is everyone else?

Im cd16 today (sun) and dtd last night. According to the ov calendars based on my last two cycles im supposed to be ov this tues which is when our next dtd session is wink then after that dtd will be friday and possibly next monday but I will see how I go as af is due around 22ndof july. Although if we didnt fall this month then at least then the due date wouldnt be 2weeks approx before ds birthday!!

Been a busy weekend here and set for a busy week too! But at least today had one victory with the tennis and Mr Murray grin

What are your plans for the week? x

fedupofrainydays Mon 08-Jul-13 08:16:08

So broke the rules and POAS this am and bfn. Shitty start to the week. Now just want af to arrive and I can get on with it. On constant knicker watch. no real symptoms its turnong up apart from lower back ache. Got the NCT weekend this coming one and still undecided what to do. Really don't want to go but then the other part of me just says man up, this is life, get on with it. God help me whatever!

Keep DTD abi and hopefully you will hit that ov day.

Dildo - how is your sil?

Have a good Monday all

onelittlepiglet Mon 08-Jul-13 12:00:24

Thank you for all your help - I still haven't got my cross hairs on FF and so don't really know hen I ovulated....I think it was cd 14 or 15 but am now on cd 17 and nothing. My temps were a bit weird a the start of the month as I wasn't get well so m wondering if this has affected it. My temp has risen now, but not by much. W weren't able to DTD on cd 15 or 16 so hope it wasn't a missed opportunity.

Well I guess I am in the 2ww now so we will see!

Hope you are all doing ok!

onelittlepiglet Mon 08-Jul-13 12:18:47

Gosh so many typos in that post....sorry!

muzzy1 Mon 08-Jul-13 18:05:38

Just popping on to say good luck for all those in the 2ww or soon to be in it!
Any news fedup?

AF has gone and am starting this month with a positive outlook. Have started runninng again and stopped smoking except for very special occassions.

fedupofrainydays Mon 08-Jul-13 18:31:23

Hi muzzy

Pretty down in the dumps as no af and no bfp either. And bfp would have shown by now if it was coming sad

Despite the sunshine am feeling pretty low but also guilty for feeling like that around my ds. Part of me is desperate just to forget this ttc lark and enjoy my little boy rather than counting dates, peeing on sticks and then crying all over the place. If only it was easy to stop.

Glad you have started this month on a positive! Keep that up!

StoneBaby Mon 08-Jul-13 18:44:11

Got my smiley today and DH should be ready for his duties tonight grin. Fx it works!!!!! confused

dildoos Mon 08-Jul-13 19:11:39

Hi my lovelies!

Muzzy - glad on your positive start to this cycle!
Fed up- heart is with you on this , after a parent once life is a constant guilt trip about one thing or another! But no af so no lost hope yet!
Stone yay for smiley! I used all mine and not anew pack so as we are timed I am going to go with yours :-)

Well this weekend was hideous, went with sil on Saturday it was heartbreaking but we whined to each other regards mcs preg ladies and skinny celebs!
However I managed to make her laughgrin so I ask all you ladies my question!

Imagine you are poor, £50,000 would you pimp out your other half for 1 night?

My answer when asked was hell yes, even not skint I so would as feel the shopping trip would let me get over it! DP not impressed As he said he could never do that to me lol!

So summary is I am a very BAD person smile

Answers please ladies xx

fedupofrainydays Mon 08-Jul-13 19:20:52

Ha ha! No I actually wouldn't do it. Thought of him DTD with another woman makes my stomach churn - even those he met before me!! Bit pathetic I know but it does! I would sooner pimp myself!!

Properly lost hope as am 14 dpo and surely that would give a bfp if there was one. Can feel af on its way too. Stupid witch.

fedupofrainydays Mon 08-Jul-13 19:22:33

Ps. Glad you managed to make your SIL laugh. It is good to have a laugh in such shitty times. And a good slagging off / rant is therapeutic too.

dildoos Mon 08-Jul-13 19:42:30

Now I really am mean grin
Oh yes we did laugh ! Her lowest was £100 bless her wink

StoneBaby Mon 08-Jul-13 20:24:23

dildoos glad you're in sync so you know when your ov is.

fedup take care. It's not over until af turns up

dildoos Mon 08-Jul-13 20:29:20

Stone how long are your cycles? Mine are 28 which makes me wonder if I suffer a short luteal phase? As no pos yesterday confused
Are you the same?

StoneBaby Mon 08-Jul-13 21:06:20

My cycles are 31 days. And I normally ov at cd16/17

dildoos Mon 08-Jul-13 21:11:40

Oh so I guess I am a short luteal phase. That's bad isn't it as needs to be 14 days for hormones etc! I had clear mucus today so i am certain I am today !

fedupofrainydays Tue 09-Jul-13 05:30:56

So the witch got me in the night. sad

Mega painful this one too.

Gutted as we really did give it everything this month.

dildoos Tue 09-Jul-13 07:24:18

So sorry fed up! sad

AbiBub Tue 09-Jul-13 09:29:56

Hey all

Stone did you manage to dtd last night? I hope so, especially with the pos opk. :0) like you im 31cd (thought I was 28but the last few months have been 31!!) According to various ov calendars I am poss ov today which is a planned day for dtd anyhow! ! I had twingy pains yesterday and tummy was a bit tender so if I have ov before today it doesnt matter as dtd on sat night anyhow grin .

Muzzy glad you are going with the positive thought processes it really can help quite a bit.

I think we can allget a bit down here and there, but the support we get and give can help more than we realise plus we are all pretty switched on too so we end up bouncing back to getting on with things.

Fedup sorry to hear af witch has visited, lets hope she goes on vacation soon! I have found on the months when I have made a concerted effort of dtd every other day I would tire myself out and obv to no evail as still not up duffed so now we only dtd every 3days and I feel far more relaxed about at least the dtd bit (which means we enjoy it more) grin so I can concentrate on being nutty in other ways

Dildoos dont quote me on it but im sure the min amount of days for lp is 10days, obv the longer the phase the better but it sounds like ov is occuring perhaps your phases will lengthen in time?! If your cycles are 28 daysthen iit's normally approx the half way mark when ov occurs, uou may even ov earlier in the cycle and nit realise! ! Im a cycle of 31 days and my ov apparently today (cd18) so nothing set in stone I guess!!

How are we all today? Any nice plans? : 0 ) x

muzzy1 Tue 09-Jul-13 10:00:11

Oh no! Sorry to hear that fedup I was really hoping this was your month sad I hope the sun and dd can lighten your mood.

dildoos there are ways to try and lengthen your lp if you're worried.

Hi to everyone else.

donnab1983 Tue 09-Jul-13 11:54:03

Hi Everyone,
Does anyone else get a metalicy taste in their mouth when ov'ing? Im pretty sure I am ov'ing between saturday and yesterday and have this metalicy taste since yesterday! Now on the tww, fingers crossed!

onelittlepiglet Tue 09-Jul-13 12:52:19

Sorry AF got you fedup...I know how annoying it is when you make an effort. I feel that I will be the same this month - tried really hard but I have a feeling that it hasn't happened this month.

Finally got my crosshairs for day 15 so I'm 3 dpo now. We didn't manage to DTD on day 15 but did do the two days before so that's something. I'm now due AF a week Saturday. Luckily have lots to keel me busy in the next two weeks but I'm sure it won't stop me from being nutty!

StoneBaby Tue 09-Jul-13 16:26:51

fedup oh no! sad for you

abi yes we did. And DH told me we may dtd again tonight so fx...

fedupofrainydays Tue 09-Jul-13 18:01:57

Utterly depressed today. Need something to focus on - what shall I try next month? Does anyone have any joy with temping?

Want to hurry af along so I can get on with trying. Bleurgh.

Stay positive piglet - sounds like you have it a good shot.

Keep shagging those of you in fertile zone! X

fedupofrainydays Tue 09-Jul-13 18:05:46

Abi - think every 3 days would be a challenge for me, I would be stressing I wasn't doing it enough but realise trying to do it as much as we have is exhausting. Maybe somewhere in between!

dildoos Tue 09-Jul-13 20:12:22

Evening ladies,

Good luck everyone in 2ww!

I am disappointed as we Dtd on day 8 and 10 then on day 12 too tired and day 13 was with sil in hospital all night which I know was far far far more important but then tired day 14 but Dtd yesterday day 16? Stone?
However didn't get a positive opk on any of the ones I took daily from day 10 but stone was ovulating yesterday and this month we are synced so went with that but I fear I may have missed my time sad
Going to Dtd tonight as with smep said 3 days in run from ovulation then miss a day and try 1 last time! Just feeling poo as not stuck to it how I would have liked!

Fed up- I did temp a few months back and fell but I keep forgetting since to start on day 1 then feel no point , if I am out of luck this month going to set a reminder in phone to temp on next cycle!
Do you take pregnCare conception? I have them sent from amazon monthly as cheaper that way I pay £5.60 a box instead of £10+ apparently something in them makes your cervical mucus friendlier to sperm also I heard this month vitamin b complex helps prevent mc? Anyone else heard of this or am I taking those for nothing?


StoneBaby Tue 09-Jul-13 21:29:29

dildoos I guess cd16 should be good especially if we're in sync. Did it yesterday and fx tonight too. I have decided not to symdroms spot during this 2ww slap me if I start doing so please

dildoos Tue 09-Jul-13 21:42:21

Stone - me too I will not symptom spot either instead I will be focusing on getting back into gym smile
Not feeling positive abouty efforts xx

fedupofrainydays Wed 10-Jul-13 07:43:10

Good luck with that you nutty symptom spotters!!! Seriously would be impressed if you managed it though!

dildoos Wed 10-Jul-13 17:41:12

I are with my left hand, and my boobs were tender when I stab them with a scalpel at work, I recon I am in with a chance lol x

StoneBaby Wed 10-Jul-13 20:32:23

fedup we aren't nutter for nothing grin

StoneBaby Wed 10-Jul-13 20:53:02

Only got one dtd this month sad so now entering the 2ww with not much hope!

dildoos ouch. How are you?0

dildoos Wed 10-Jul-13 21:38:17

Stone with you on the little hope although it was twice week before last once on your smiley so here's to hoping!
So feeling fed up and annoyed that I put everything and everyone before my own needs again angry I never learn to Say no and people always need want you over ovulation ! ( not including sil as that was a necessary !)
Today nursed all day with 5 preg patients coming in hmm
How are you ?

Fed up how are you feeling today?

Abi,muzzy, one etc how are you ladies? X

onelittlepiglet Wed 10-Jul-13 22:58:55

Hello everyone. Sorry to those feeling a bit down, although I'm afraid to say I'm with you. Only 4dpo so still a loooong time to wait (or it seems that way!). Don't fancy our chances for some reason. Had coffee with some friends today including two ladies who are pg and both their first children are the same age as my dd. Made me a bit sad to hear how excited their little ones are about their new brothers or sisters. But I am not jealous of them exactly, just felt a bit sad. Wish we had started trying sooner asI feel this may take a while...

Must chin up and pull myself together! It's the long game I guess.

dildoos Thu 11-Jul-13 11:40:48

One- sorry your feeling sad! I think it makes us more desperate for our child's sake too! Oh the pressures sad thanksthanks

muzzy1 Thu 11-Jul-13 22:37:49

Hi ladies
Hope all the symptom spotters are doing ok?
Good luck to you all!
fedup did you decide to go the nct meet up?

I'm feeling really sad 2 pg announcements on facebook today! I'm happy for them but...well I don't have to explain to you ladies how it feels! Oh and I smoked! Dammit!

fedupofrainydays Fri 12-Jul-13 00:28:02

Well... So I'm on the train home after multiple cocktails and a few cigarettes (I don't even smoke!!). Let see how rough i feel tomorrow!

So I've decided not to go. Wrote an email on the train this morning, bawling my eyes out. Women opposite thought ii was crazy, which I guess I am. Fortunately they seem to understand... Well most of them. One who In thought 'got' me the most really doesn't seem to get it and keeps thinking 'maybe you will enjoy it more than you think?' Alright for her given she is due a week after I was . Bit upset she doesn't get it sad

Today I've decided I'm doing one more month, then it will be six months post mc. And if no bfp going to get some help. Need to feel I'm doing something.

Just looked up at the man opposite me. Spitting image of Harry Enfield with burger juice dribbled down his chin, asleep with his mouth open. He's got style.

dildoos Fri 12-Jul-13 09:32:50

Muzzy confused why oh why are there do many preg people around ?
Fed up- lol to the guy on train ! That was a treat and a half grin
As for smoking sometimes a little of what you need is required when ttc!!! X

fedupofrainydays Fri 12-Jul-13 13:48:40

Not feeling too hot today that's for sure. In need of a power nap this afternoon!

Got a feeling one of my best friends is up duffed now... Just waiting for the announcement....

Ds has been so cute today though, playing lots of funny games with me. So glad I only work part time!

muzzy1 Fri 12-Jul-13 21:07:41

I know dildoos they are everywhere!
Good you were out for a few cocktails fedup, hope you weren't feeling too rough today.

muzzy1 Fri 12-Jul-13 21:17:22

Feel exactly the same about my best friend fedup, sure she is avoiding me lately and I know she is trying!

dildoos Fri 12-Jul-13 21:20:58

Good evening ladies! Whoop whoop high five its Friday grin *does funny dance*
Happy times school report says DD is kind grin if there is one thing I hope for her in life is that she is kind!
So she has private English lessons as she struggles in school with this but hey can't be kind and perfectwink
How's your days gone?
Well I do believe stone we are 4 dpo? No not symptom spotting and also don't have much hope , however today I had my 21 day progesterone test, rubella immunity test and a clap screening all in aid for help with getting what we all want! Apparently will get part 1 and 2 fertility treatment and mc investigations on nhs which means only have to pay for icsi or Ivf If gets to that moment!
Dp has his sperm count in 12 days however we know its lower than should be as he has had it done twice already but the needed a more up to date result , I find it a little comfort that he should have a test like this to compensate for all mine I would really care what they were screening for grin
Happy weekend to you all x

StoneBaby Sat 13-Jul-13 07:32:16

At a family wedding this weekend. So no symdrom spotting and definately lots of drinking grin.
Yes to the 4dpo dildoos.
Breakfast time!
Good luke to all

dildoos Sat 13-Jul-13 07:43:45

Enjoy the wedding And the vino stone!

AbiBub Sat 13-Jul-13 21:27:29

Evening ladies! How are we all?

stone and dildoos im also 4dpo !! If im calculating that correctly from tues being ov day!!?

No symptom spotting here either, as after I have hopefully done the food shop I will be having a sneaky tia maria and coke in celebration of getting rid of our car and getting a different one all in the space of a couple of days!! grin

How are you all? Sorry not been on much have had a really busy couple of weeks!!

What stage is everyone else at atm? smile

fedupofrainydays Sat 13-Jul-13 22:39:12


Good news re the car - def a drink worthy celebration wink


How was the wedding stone? Hope you had fun.

I'm just at tail end of af. Starting to DTD next week - probably SMEP this month!

BartBaby Sat 13-Jul-13 22:48:47

Hey ladies smile

Im not sure which cycle day im on. Ive successfully managed to avoid my calander counting, and no opk's. Although i think iv should be somewhere between now and tuesday so im about a week behind most of you. But so far this month we have no little swimmers up there! So im not holding out much hope. Is it just me or is this hot weather causing problems for anyone else trying to dtd?! Hoping to be more successful tomorrow as that will be our only chance this month as dh away from monday this week.

Anyways i hope you are all having a good weekend. And that the 2ww isnt dragging too much. We had an unexpected night out at a friends last night and far too much alcohol was consumed so i havent felt too good today. But still managed to have a nice day out looking round the shops with my sister and a pizza hut lunch! grin

onelittlepiglet Sat 13-Jul-13 23:45:59

Hello, hope you are all having good weekends whatever you are doing!

I'm now 7dpo and temp has dropped and stayed down now for two days so I think I'm pretty much out this month. I feel very disheartened as we tried hard this month but I just know - I can feel - it's not happened. AF due a week today and I am sure she will show up on time.

Ho hum. Roll on next month and we will just have to try again.

AbiBub Sun 14-Jul-13 12:21:31

Thanks fedup! In the end I didnt have time to have a drinky but tonight will deffo be considered!! Hope all goes well with the dtd and smep next week!!

bart I know what you mean about the heat, when its this unbearable you dont really want to add to the temp with dtd right!! Fx you get a session in this evening thought wink

one sorry you feel like its not your month sweet. Im still keeping fx for you, tis not over till the evil witch actually appears!!

In the 2ww now af due around the 22nd july, so I guess its just a wait and see. Not check temps etc this time round so slap me if I talk of considering it

Best get on with something productive I guess. Hope you're all having a good weekend. :0)

fedupofrainydays Mon 15-Jul-13 07:21:02

one I know how you feel. We gave it our all last month and was devastated when af arrived. Plus I'm pretty sure my ttc friend is up duffed as she's gone all quiet. Pleased for her but also makes me more desperate for me! But it's still a week til af is due so not over yet!

Has anyone had the blood test to check you are ovulating? When cd's are these tests?

bart hangover in this heat is pretty horrid - hope you have recovered and pizza is the way forward!!

onelittlepiglet Mon 15-Jul-13 12:27:06

He fed up - thank you. I am very grumpy at the moment which is a classic pre AF symptom for me so I'm sure she will be along on Friday/sat! I spent some time recently with a friend who was visiting who is 7months pg now and actually it was lovely to talk about babies and things but I also got a bit sad worrying that it won't happen for us.

I am also wondering if I am temps this month have been so low. Had another one under the cover line this morning and the ones above the cover line have all only been around 0.05C over so not by much at all. I think that if next month is unlucky again I might start looking into the blood tests. Can you pay for them privately I wonder? It would be good to have just to set my mind at rest or show if this is the problem.

AbiBub Mon 15-Jul-13 14:14:48

One - if I remember rightly the temp rise is only supposed to be by about 0.5 higher than base libe temp anyway. I hope this puts your mind at rest :0) x

onelittlepiglet Mon 15-Jul-13 15:26:24

Ah thanks abi but I mean 0.05 not 0.5 degrees. So my cover line is 36.25 and my supposed post ov temps range from 36.49 to the lowest which is today at 36.15 so not good really! Normal they are much higher than this so think it's a dud month.

Roll on next month!

dildoos Mon 15-Jul-13 19:35:14

Hey all, sorry to hear we are all a little pre af due miserable sad
I can join you I know only 7dpo but I poas! Why oh why did I do that? angry

getagoldtoof Mon 15-Jul-13 19:47:43

Hello can I join? I am ttc #2 we've just done cycle one. It's nearly killed me as I got a BFP, felt all smug it had happened first time, and then came on my period. I was devastated. I will take another test later this week as they were getting darker, but think it's over this month for me.

So, I will go back to temping this month, I don't start until cd 6/7.

I have also decided to cut out the evening breastfeed leaving my son with only one bf a day. It has been sad to give this up, as we didn't really want to, but can't bear the thought that this may be the cause of the chemical. Anyone know if this likely?

Gosh I've gone on, obviously not had a chance to talk about it in real life...! Looking forward to hearing about your attempts at getting pregnant w number 2!

dildoos Mon 15-Jul-13 19:56:53

Welcome getagold, sorry I don't really know but gut instinct tells me this is not the reason as women do breast feed two siblings years apart so guessing they would be feeding whilst pregnant?
However bleed wise is it a normal for you bleed? I bled like period bleeding through first preg and she is 5 however I have had 3 mcs but I always hold hope! Good luck and fx xx

BartBaby Mon 15-Jul-13 21:19:57

Welcome getagold it could be possible that you are still pg as like dildoos said some people do bleed throughout. I cant say for definate about the breastfeeding, but i wouldnt think that would affect anything. There are a few breastfeeding threads within the conception topic maybe someone on there will have a better idea. I would be testing everyday to check the lines! thats the nutty side of me coming out FX for you flowers

dildoos i started with the poas last month at about 9dpo so thats not really any better. Its probably just too early for you and you are still in with as much of a chance as you were.

one sorry i cant help you much with the temping im not being much help to anyone tonight am i?! lol Have you used opk's? I know they detect the surge before ov, rather than ov itself, but it could be a good indication. I hope af doesnt arrive for you.

Abi we managed to dtd last night so at least we are still in with a chance even if it is only a small chance good luck for the rest of the 2ww.

My hangover has been and gone now thanks fedup although i think ive had an ear infection or something, just to keep me feeling ill and crappy. and aswell as not being able to sleep properly because of the ridiculous heat in our bedroom, i now cant sleep on my left side because of the ear so its been a nightmare getting comfy hmm

Sorry for the long post and the little whinge!

dildoos Mon 15-Jul-13 21:27:20

Get well soon bBart x

Tallalime Mon 15-Jul-13 23:29:30

Hi all grin

I am 3 or 4 do now I think. Have my second blood test on Thursday (21dpo). Have done OK with DTD this month but it's so hot! And I have been I'll since Sunday morning - hopefully got enough in before then because I feel dog rough now, so no hope. Sore throat, hugely snotty, chills and fever, yay for summer hmm

Sorry you are poorly too Bart it sucks in this weather!

Hugs to thee rest of you nutters - fingers crossed for all of you this month x

Tallalime Mon 15-Jul-13 23:30:33

3 or 4 dpo


<blames heat>

StoneBaby Tue 16-Jul-13 09:21:24

dildoos < wag my finger at you>. I would think 7 dpo is far too early to test so there's still hope

bart and talla get well soon

Back home after a drinking weekend!

dildoos Tue 16-Jul-13 09:26:30

Stone I don't know why I did its maybe cos I haven't symptom spotted! Was it a good weekend? X

getagoldtoof Tue 16-Jul-13 10:11:03

Thanks all. I haven't poas since sun as I'm on a family holiday and needed to avoid the heartache. Trust me - I am a ttc nutter. Wish I could keep it in check, but not at all able to! Will be poas as soon as I walk through my front door!

Sorry to hear some of you are ill. That is really no fun in this weather!

onelittlepiglet Tue 16-Jul-13 11:47:18

Good luck for anyone poas!

Oh dear well my third dip below the cover line today so ff has changed my crosshairs to dotted and said I'd might not have ovulated! I am 10 dpo though and I feel like AF is on her way - had cramps and last night just wanted to stuff my face with crips and chocolate so those are fairly classic signs! Expecting her Friday or Saturday I think.

Dh has been ill with a bit of a cold this week so glad it wasn't out DTD week! I've told him he needs to get better as in two weeks (or there abouts) he needs to be fighting fit and ready. He looked a bit worried but then later said he was looking forward to it and said we should really go for it so that's good!

StoneBaby Tue 16-Jul-13 21:56:46

piglet great news that your DH is up for more dtd.

Well I'm still trying not to symptoms check but it's getting really hard! blush

fedupofrainydays Wed 17-Jul-13 07:19:10

Morning ladies, how is everyone?

bart and talla hope you are feeling better.

dildo naughty! Too early to POAS! Are you holding out now? I can't really talk as I POAS 4 days into af this month jic. As I was feeling sick, sore boobs still etc - kind of forgot I probably had sunstroke!! Nutter.

stone you are doing great, I would be conjuring up experiencing all sorts of symptoms by this point!

getagold I can imagine how hideous that is. Elation i will leave out the smugness but get what you mean, swiftly followed by the devastation. But I reckon there is still a chance and you have just had some breakthrough bleeding. I really don't think breastfeeding has anything to do with it. But I'm no doctor. I think bf just helps as a contraceptive but only if you are exclusively breastfeeding for first six months of their life. Don't blame that / give it up just for ttc if its something you and dc want to continue.

So.... Cd 9 here and positive opk this morn. Wtf?! It's normally been cd 12 for last few months apart from one at cd 10 when had really short cycle. Any thoughts? Read somewhere that early ov = bag eggs so already counting myself out this month. On the plus side, it's means a shorter shagathon this month!

getagoldtoof Wed 17-Jul-13 19:02:30

fedup could you get another +opk in the bext few days - doesn't the body prepare a couple of times sometimes before releasing the egg? They never work for me, never get a +.

dildoos 7 dpo is nutty. You're in the right place! It is natural to want to know.

I poas tonight when I got home - bleeding now finished so had what felt like a normal period. I got a much stronger + line. I feel like a nutter. Going to the epau in the norning. Hoping for the best.

StoneBaby Wed 17-Jul-13 20:53:04

Well I'm starting to symptoms spot and can't find any! Except nausea but it seems it's now part of my pre-af routine too hmm

getagoldtoof Wed 17-Jul-13 22:34:30

How many dpo stone?

StoneBaby Thu 18-Jul-13 06:19:11

geta I'm on 10 dpo

fedupofrainydays Thu 18-Jul-13 07:12:26

Still smiley opk this morning so keeping up the dtd. Bit too hot for it though!

One of my NCT posted on FB moaning about being 7 months pregnant, hot and feeling ill. Took a lot of strength for me not to add the following comment "at least you're f**king pregnant". I know that makes me sound awful but it's what i really felt like saying!

Good luck at EPU geta let us know how you get on. Sounds positive though!

Not far to go now stone

Tallalime Thu 18-Jul-13 08:17:14


I have my blood test this morning, then working all day. It is already too hot <scowls at sun>

Good luck at the EPU geta everything crossed it was a break through bleed xx

getagoldtoof Thu 18-Jul-13 09:35:09

Thanks gang. Hope all goes well with blood test talla. When do you get your results?

Symptom spotting at 10 dpo sounds positively restrained stone , well done. Have you had anything else? I always notice headaches first.

I agree with it being too hot to have sex! Gotta keep at it though fedup!

I am sat waiting at epu now, feel sick with nerves and have completely lost hope as line on test this morning strong, but not as as strong as when i was pg last time at this point. Feeling sad already, and am preparing for the worst.

Ninunina Thu 18-Jul-13 09:54:20

Thinking of you geta. Hopefully it's just a scare and everything will be ok.

fedupofrainydays Thu 18-Jul-13 10:08:18

I feel for you geta as I sat in EPU for hours back in feb. fx it's just a scare / embryo just bedding in. Hugs xx

getagoldtoof Thu 18-Jul-13 10:15:26

Just had a scan and there was nothing there. Feeling quite low. Wish i'd never tested and want everything to go back to normal to start trying again sad.

AbiBub Thu 18-Jul-13 10:16:26

Morning ladies!

How are we all today?

geta hope all goes ok. Let us know how you get on!

stone im trying not to symptom spot here too, quite easy this month as I dont really have any at 9/10dpo af due around monday so shall probably expect to see the evil witch then!! Whens your af due?

talla hope all went ok with the bloods this morning. When do you get the results?

Ive gone onto this last page so cant see previous comments!! Duh abi!!

Hope you're all doing well. x

Ninunina Thu 18-Jul-13 10:50:09

I'm so sorry geta! Its absolutely normal to be feeling low. An early loss is still a loss. Sending over a big hug and a tub of ice cream!

getagoldtoof Thu 18-Jul-13 11:05:48

Thanks nin. I am stuffing my face with biscuits at work trying not to sob. Onwards and upwards etc.

fedupofrainydays Thu 18-Jul-13 11:45:19

geta I'm so sorry too. Big hugs. Amazed you are at work - you are really strong. You will need to have a big cry though as you must be so disappointed and I know how that devastation feels. Xxxxx

onelittlepiglet Thu 18-Jul-13 11:59:58

I'm so sorry geta. You should go home and be kind to yourself.

I'm 12 dpo and AF due tomorrow or sat I think. Terrible sore throat today and I think this is why my temp has gone up today! Tested yesterday and got a bfn so just waiting for AF to show up. No idea why I tested....why can't I just wait for the inevitable and save my tests?!

Dd had us up all night last night with night terrors and I am shattered today. She is so precious to me. Feeling horribly emotional today (pmt) and just keep hugging her and thinking at least I have one lovely child and am a mum and for that I will always be grateful, even if we can't have another one.


StoneBaby Thu 18-Jul-13 16:41:23

abi af is due on Tuesday.

geta take care of youself

fedup enjoy the dtd

AbiBub Thu 18-Jul-13 19:01:38

Geta - sorry about my post earlier I think we may have crossed posts. Big hugz to you.

one aww dont worry, we all do tests when any other non nutter wouldnt wait, but thats why they aren't on this thread with lots of other lovely nutters giving support. :0) im still keeping my fx just in case!!

stone do you know what, I actually think my af is due tuesday too, I looked at my calendar and the cd32 is then, and my af atm has been on the 32cd. So we are in sync on that!!

I know im not symptom spotting but have been having little pains low down, which is probably af on its way. I got a mix of emotions earlier on, as I texted my friend who I haven't spoken to in just over a month, she knows we are trying, and asked if I was expecting yet. No was my answer, I asked her if her af turned up, as they are not ttc as they have 2dc already and then she said that one did..... so it turns out that they got accidently pg!! I think what she thought was af was prob ib as she is 11+4 as when I texted she was on her way to her first scan!!! my timing is lousy where my emotions are concerned im really happy for her, but a little down bcos we have been trying since jan and a few chem pg's and af's later, nothing. My friend who isnt even trying and she is nearly 12wks!!!

I feel in need of a drink tonight, as my emotions doing royally doing my nut in!! Why cant I just feel completely happy for her, I feel selfish now!!

Gosh, sorry, rant over!! :0/ blush

AbiBub Thu 18-Jul-13 19:02:54

another non nutter would wait

fedupofrainydays Thu 18-Jul-13 19:29:06

abi def have that drink. It's hard not to 'just be happy' for or friends when we so so badly want to be in their situation. Fx it will be you when af doesnt turn up on tues (and stone)

I've finally pulled myself together to see my NCT tomorrow - been avoiding facing them as all pregnant but me sad

How are you doing geta?

one I'm often the same with ds. Particularly during the 2 ww I keep hugging him and have got way more protective over him since mmc. My theory re testing is I hate waiting. The longer I leave it the more my hopes build up so even testing early and getting a bfn is preferable to me waiting all the way to af, for it be a bit late but then bf bloody n. but then afterwards think "well that was a waste of a fiver"!

AbiBub Thu 18-Jul-13 20:09:29

Fed up, nearing the end of my drink of white rum and coke, namely because im sure of af turning up at some point, feel I may have to 'top up' soon!! ;)

How is everyone this evening? smile

fedupofrainydays Thu 18-Jul-13 20:55:29

I'm on my second corona and just waiting for DH to come home for some food and shagging shock

StoneBaby Thu 18-Jul-13 21:31:22

I'm definately drinking during my 2ww. Especially as if I get a BFP it would have been my kast drinks for 38 weeks grin

AbiBub Thu 18-Jul-13 21:54:48

Yep im with you on that one stone! ! When I was pg with ds and didnt know I was I was on a camping holiday and was diving into drinks and having loadsa smokes so I thinkrwe can all play the ignorance is bliss card atm, we have sooooo earned it!!

Ooooh fedup, I love Corona! Especially with a slice of lime in!! Has to be drunk from the bottle in my book!!


fedupofrainydays Fri 19-Jul-13 06:46:21

Yep, two ice cold coronas with a slice a lime in the top of the bottle. Amazing.

Me to re drinking in 2 ww this time. I have a wedding on 2 aug, the day before af is due though so if it hasn't rocked up by then (which think it will as early ov this month, tends to equal shorter cycle with me) i will test on the Friday before / sat morn.

When I was pregnant with ds (but didnt know it) we (DH amd I) were voted most drunk couple at a wedding in Scotland and I was up til 5 am drinking champagne cocktails and smoking! shock] af didn't turn up so POAS on the Monday after, still hungover. Terrible!! He's fine though.

AbiBub Fri 19-Jul-13 08:50:47

Mmmmm corona and lime grin

Its amazing how our bodies protect when we are unaware that we are pg isnt it. And its also amazing how we adjust when we find out we are pg too, cutting out a lot of naughty things and leading a more apt lifestyle to adapt to being pg!!

Lets hope a few of us get BFP this time around eh!

Whats everyone up to this weekend? smile

fedupofrainydays Fri 19-Jul-13 17:22:11

Quite impressed with myself. Just had some of my pregnant NCT round.... Was really nervous bout it but I coped and was really nice to see them.

Basically a shed load of BBQs and a kids 2nd bday party this weekend for us abi, pretty standard! Oh plus some shagging, but only twice more (doing SMEP this month) to go.

What about you and everyone else?

StoneBaby Fri 19-Jul-13 17:30:14

I've been feeling sick all afternoon and just wish I could throw up (sorry TMI). But still not counting my chicken

fedupofrainydays Fri 19-Jul-13 17:42:52

Ooooo. Sounds promising stone!

StoneBaby Fri 19-Jul-13 17:46:34

Stupid stupid me! I've POAS and it was BFN. I'm only 11dpo ffs angry

AbiBub Sat 20-Jul-13 01:08:32

Well done fedup thats great! And totally fabby that you braved it too!! So glad you enjoyed yourself :0) good luck on the dtd and smep hope all goes according to plan! !

Just been to a bbq this evening and have dp's friend over during the day tomorrow and then a 50th party tomorrow night then sunday probably sleeping to catch up with it all! !

stone dont worry if its any consolation I really wanted to POAS this morning. I forgot by the time I got the loo, but I get the temptation for sure, one lapse is nit a biggyplease dont be to hard I you yourself. The nausea thing could still be a good sign so im keeping my fx for you.

Nodding off here best got to bed!!

dildoos Sat 20-Jul-13 07:56:55

Hi all,

Fed up- well done on your bravery , very proud of you ! How were they? Are they aware of your ttc?
Stone- I do this stuff all the time and your right only 11dpo so still in the game!
Abi- that's avert hecticsaturday ahead, enjoy all the celebrations!
I am 11 dpo but I am due on today/tomorrow, no symptoms for pregnancy or af and no urge. To poas which is mighty weird for me shock
Had a few wine last night and not going to feel guilty. I feel blank about a bfn or bfp it's really strange it's like I have no emotions !
Last night I found out a colleague has been accepted on nhs for Ivf they lied about her dp having a child angry how can they disown a child? They enjoy snorting coke on a Friday night! And heavy drinkers and smokers so feel anger towards this so maybe this is where my emotions are at the mo?!
Anyway sorry for rant!
Muzzy how are you?
Hello and how is everyone's else?
Anyone due today and poas?
Take care xx

dildoos Sat 20-Jul-13 08:02:22

Geta just read down- sorry to see you have had a tough time sad your poor thing. Are your hcg levels coming down? I assume at epau they took your bloods? Our last mc? Sounded similar to yours it's a roller coaster of hope and wishes , they only scanned a cyst but no foetus and hcg took 6 weeks to go .
Everything crossed for it to lower quickly so you can repeat our monthly processes !

AbiBub Sat 20-Jul-13 09:02:16

Thanks dildoos, this weekend is a busy one, wish I didnt have so much I needed to do! ! I've done my neck back and shoulders in which is painful :0 ( your colleague with the ivf acceptance sound like they really dont appreciate what such a big thing they have been given, and not taking it seriously will be dealt with by fate im sure. I can see why your emotions are transferred to thinking about that though, it seems unfair on all the genuine people that aren't getting the help. Try to transfer those emotions to something that will help you maybe, they are not worth your thinking power!! wink

I had a couple of beers last night, and actually not feeling guilty either, I feel a bit emotionless this month too, I guess its because im fed up of getting my hopes up. I dont really have any symptoms of af or pg or none that im going to link to them namely because I just dont want to believe that I could be as dont like the disappointment! ! I am just carrying on as normal as its actually easier to do that but im still inwardly nutty and really curious and wanting to poas

This heat is driving me to distraction and making me feel unmotivated, so hoping that I can get motivated as so much I have to catch up on!!

I hope everyone has a fabby weekend for sure!

dildoos Sat 20-Jul-13 09:42:02

Thank you abi really good advice there, I am going to re direct the emotionssmile
We are off on holiday 2 weeks today which would tech be my fertile timewink so thinking if I am out this month it's because I will be on holiday for a lovely place to conceive grin
I hope you feel better soon with back etc! Have you been in an accident for this to happen?
Sounds like we are all a bit emotionless but completely nuts about poas grin

Personally just going to wait this one out as didn't have a great first smep month so going to use the test money for an extra round of ice creams on holidaysmile

Happy weekend ladies xx

AbiBub Sat 20-Jul-13 10:00:32

I think the test money for ice creams sounds like a fabby plan wink

I was in a minor accident years ago with whiplash, so not a recent thing, but I think it still has some bearing on why I get pains every now and then tbh. This time the pain comes back if I dont move around. Might have to try some ibuprofen gel to ease it a bit!

Someone slap me, I was really tempted about half an hour ago to check my temperature! !! I so have to keep myself busy!! :0/

dildoos Sat 20-Jul-13 10:33:45

Yes or maybe hot and cold compresses on the area to get the blood pping to fight the inflammation? I should think that is why you still experience that as they never really heal 100%.

Lol stopping your temping grin
Try not too but at least if you do it's free wink

Take is easy abi x

onelittlepiglet Sat 20-Jul-13 11:38:47

Hello ladies
So AF due today and no sign yet. I had negative tests on 11dpo and yesterday (13dpo) so I'm sure I'm not pregnant but don't feel exactly like AF is about to show up... Odd.

My temp also went up today so maybe my luteal phase is just longer than normal...or I didn't ovulate when I thought or....who knows! Why is it that my periods were pretty regular when we were not ttc but as soon as we start I've had two really long months and one short one and have probably missed fertile windows each time. Grrrr!

Dildoos that's awful about your colleagues who are having Ivf....denying a child already is so dishonest and horrible. Sometimes things seem so unfair...

fedupofrainydays Sat 20-Jul-13 13:42:35


dildo I'm disgusted by that couple. Surely if they can afford a coke habit they can afford private ivf? And agree with abi that lying about something like this is bound to come back and bite them on the arse. Poor child that's been 'forgotten' too.

Sounds like we have a few people in the verge of bfps / af and I'm so hopin for some bfps, we need some on this thread!

So we have booked our holidays in September - so we are away for my would be due date. Think it's also over my fertile window so also some more relaxed dtd action.

The NCT afternoon was ok. They are looking pretty pregnant now. And we didnt really talk about it, which was nice for me, didnt really fancy banging on about my ttc. Yeah, they all know. They know about my mmc and general nuttiness. I tend to refer to myself as the crazy lady now too.

So DH was supposed I be on Dtd duty last night but he went to Lords didnt he and got battered on beer, pimms and other mixtures. He's attempted to make up for it with twice so far today - although I think i ov'd yesterday so prob all too late. Never mind though. we are married so there are other reasons to have sex other than baby making, really aren't there?!

Hope everyone is ok and abi the pain goes away. The sun isn't shining yet so am off to the gym to do a little to counteract my face stuffing with BBQ and beer later!

onelittlepiglet Sat 20-Jul-13 14:53:16

Ah well. AF showed up on time so I'm out this month. At least I think my timings and cycle were all ok this month. 28 days and ovulated on day 15 so I'm going to base next month on these timings too. Going to try SMEP again - we managed it mostly last month but only did 2 days in a row at the end so will try harder this month!

Also getting my thyroid test results next week so I will see how that is. I have an underactive thyroid and whilst it seems to have been fine for a while with me taking my medication, I have been reading that even if my results are within the range of 'normal', they may not be good enough for ttc. I hope they are ok but also kind of hope that I can do something to make them better in case it is this that is causing issues.

fedup - glad you have a holiday to look forward to! also impressed you managed dtd twice today already! How do you manage it with a little one?!

StoneBaby Sat 20-Jul-13 16:25:24

fedup well impressed by 2 dtd in a day

DH and I saw some friends who really enjoy joking about the fact that the best birthday present for DH would be another child! I could have cried or punched them!!! They f** don't know what we're going through!!! angry

one sad for your af

dildo that's outragious that they acted like this. Can they be reported? (Just a thought <sorry>)

dildoos Sat 20-Jul-13 19:28:19

Stone I know I feel the same so annoying and surely not ok xx

StoneBaby Sat 20-Jul-13 21:56:12

Argghh. I've now started symptoms spotting! So far I have nausea, fuller boobs, muscle aches in my tommy. All could be pg but I have learnt over the last 12 months that they can also all be in my head and pre-af!!

onelittlepiglet Sat 20-Jul-13 22:10:24

How many dpo are you stone? Too early to test?

StoneBaby Sun 21-Jul-13 07:40:26

I'm 13 dpo. Tested on 11dpo and it was BFN. I'll test again tomorrow or later today if I got the urge!

dildoos Sun 21-Jul-13 08:00:54

I caved- BFN! sad

Stone - did you cave again?

Officially now 31 cycles!!!

Dp has his count done on 1/8/13, I will call after my results tomorrow.
Will see gp who will refer us after our holidays . I am so damn impatient and this feels like forever!!!!

How's everyone else? I am not overly sad at mo but know its coming as soon as af shows! I am due yesterday or today ?!


StoneBaby Sun 21-Jul-13 09:16:09

dildo no I haven't caved in again especially as I know it'll be negative despites the numerous symptoms all in my head. confused

muzzy1 Sun 21-Jul-13 09:51:57

Hello everyone, I have been lurking, just been a hectic week with DH away and a toddler learning the joys of tantrums! Aagghhhh

Sorry geta you've had such a shit time.
Sorry dildoos on your bfn. A holiday in 2 weeks will be perfect timing though! Hopefully you can get lots of DTD in.
Well done fedup going to the nct meet up. I think sometimes the thought of these things are not as bad as the reality. Life must go on and all that! Well done for managing twice in one day. Very impressive!
Hello abi and good luck! How many dpo are you now? Sorry I know you've said but I keep getting lost reading back.
Sorry one your AF showed up. Good luck with your results.

Hello to everyone and good luck either DTD or in 2ww.

Well I'm on cd18 and haven't been using OPK's as DH was away until cd16 so seemed pretty pointless. We managed to DTD cd16 but not the next day. Am so pissed off with's just never going to happen at this rate! I think I ov today so will try today but its still a bit of a crap attempt this month! Sorry rant over.

muzzy1 Sun 21-Jul-13 09:52:29

Good luck stone!

fedupofrainydays Sun 21-Jul-13 10:18:37

Morning! Feeling a bit tired and rough after boozy BBQ yesterday evening!

It was only dtd twice yesterday. No more times! We can only manage that at weekends really, and ds still has a nap after lunch! The other time was at 6 am before we got ds up!

dlido sorry no bfp when you tested, but again it's not over til af arrives. Fx. And am pleased that, although slow, the testing is happening and will either help quickly with answers or you will get preggers in the mean time.

one sorry af turned up sad but good news re cycle being a bit more normal and something you can base next month on with SMEP efforts. We also only did two days instead of the 3. Hope tests are ok too.

Impressed stone that you haven't cracked again.... I'd be peeing for England by now wink

StoneBaby Sun 21-Jul-13 12:38:17

fedup I POAS a lot last month when I was convinced I was pg so this month as I am sure I'm not, I decided not to waste too much money on test. I got one cb left which I'll use either tomorrow or Tuesday

getagoldtoof Sun 21-Jul-13 13:11:54

Sorry to hear about the shitty afs showing up all over the place. Disappointing, isn't it.

stone, sounding promising...! Let us know! I always try to force myself to hold off on poas as it costs so much. I don't rate internet cheapies much.

dildoos, that is immoral for that couple to lie to their doctor, but I find it an unfair policy that if one of a couple has had a child, they won't be considered for ivf. Still, I suppose they need to ration it. Either way it's no good to lie about it! Any sign of your af yet?

piglet sorry to hear about your af. Hoping this month is lucky for you.

As for me I am still poas like a real nutter. The line is getting marginally darker. When I went to epu on thursday my progesterone was 15 and hcg was 15 - so very low. They said to poas in a week and if still positive to come in again. My temps have skyrocketed, so I'm really not sure what is going on. This feels like a dreadful roller coaster with no outcome in sight. I will try to wait until Wednesday to poas again and maybe go back to epu. Feel so confused (and still getting preg symptoms sad.

onelittlepiglet Sun 21-Jul-13 13:14:02

Fed up - I'm still impressed with twice in one day! Dd has dropped her naps so no chance during the day and she gets up at 5am so we don't get any chance to DTD apart from after she has gone to bed....maybe why not much is happening! I've threatened Dh with waking him up at 4.30 so we can DTD before she wakes up but I'm not sure I can face it to be honest...I get so little sleep as it is!

getagoldtoof Sun 21-Jul-13 13:16:02

muz why did we get spun a yarn about men being desperate to have sex all the time? It's just not true!

Oh and fedup good work on the shagging!

abi sounds like you're protecting yourself from this roller coaster we're all helplessly stuck on. Hope you get a nice bfp this month.

fedupofrainydays Sun 21-Jul-13 18:52:08

I know geta my DH was never one of those men who wants sex constantly -- however my ex bf was!-- he is up for it at the weekends but just not really in the week so it's quite hard work.
I would be POAS too. Do you think there is something in there and just too early for them to see on scan? I can imagine it is the biggest head f*ck ever.

4.30 is too early one, normally ds wakes at 5.30 and wants to get up then but for some reason yesterday he was just chatting to his toys so we just got on with it! Not a normal occurrence in our household.

fedupofrainydays Sun 21-Jul-13 18:52:47

Whoops my crossing out didnt work! Silly phones

fedupofrainydays Sun 21-Jul-13 20:03:00

Me again.

So I think I'm 1 or 2 dpo and I have the most painful boobs. I never had sore boobs before my mc. I've now started the googling and freaking myself out the sore boobs (particularly on and around and behind the nipples - which is what I have) means dominance of estrogen and therefore no ovulation too place. Anyone else get this??

Totally paranoid this month it's all gone tits up ( pardon the pun) as I had pos opk 3 days earlier this cycle and now mega sore boobs. It's not pregnancy as too early so just going a bit bonkers here worrying.

Anyone else?!

getagoldtoof Sun 21-Jul-13 21:03:50

Thanks fedup - head fuck is exactly what it is. Of course part of me is thinking, maybe I am pregnant.I think with a chemical I wouldn't still be getting positives. Then another, more realistic part thinks of course I'm not pregnant, and that I would be stupid to even imagine I am.

I have never heard/read that about boobs and oestrogen. Being a real ttc nutter, I have read a lot. Have you read something medical? Any other reason to think you didn't ov?

StoneBaby Sun 21-Jul-13 21:12:24

fedup can't comment as I never encountered this but if it's carry on, go and see your GP (or call NHS direct)

geta good luck it is hard either way and do test and nag go back to the epcu if needed

dildoos Sun 21-Jul-13 21:22:00

Sorry unsure fed up maybe it is an early sign as I had mega sore boobs well before my bfp all times! Twins?
Stone I still haven't come on so think I am completely tying in with your cycle as usually 28 days however not case this month, but got bfn this am and feel its def on its waysad

muzzy1 Sun 21-Jul-13 21:23:51

Sorry fedup I haven't heard or read of that either.
How many dpo are you now?

My BFP went very quickly after my chemical pregnancy geta but I think often you just know dont you-I hope you still have a chance.

fedup you gave me inspiration and we managed DTD at nap time today and will do it again at bedtime! I can't remember the last time we managed twice in a day! Defiantly pre dd!

fedupofrainydays Sun 21-Jul-13 22:05:11

Thanks ladies. I am currently cd13 of approx 26 day cycle. Had pos opk on cd 9 (and again on 10 then neg on cd 11) so am estimating I ov'd on cd 11, which would make me 2 dpo. It's normally (if there is a normal post mc) on cd 13 - today. Def too early for a pregnancy sign as implantation wouldn't have happened. Just super worried something us up as also had some shooting pains on lower right hand side. If still going tomorrow, think will call doctor for an appointment. I want to test for pcos and whether am ovulating!

geta I don't think you are mad at all for thinking you could be pregnant. As like you say, with a chemical I would have thought it would have stopped getting darker / lost all hcg by now. Def go back to EPU / keep testing to see what's happening. Fx for you.

muzzy so glad to have inspired grin
I haven't done it at all today as according to SMEP it's my day off! One more day tomorrow. But feel oddly guilty for not doing it today - I really think I'm losing the plot if I feel I need to do it every day! DH even asked if he needed to dtd tonight as he's keen for us to get up duffed too. But i just want sleep so. I've offered early tomorrow morning before work - eek


AbiBub Mon 22-Jul-13 00:31:22

Evening ladies! Sorry have been trying to catch up with the posts and what not! Brain fuzzy today well since the bloomin heatwave has occurred if im honest I justcant cconcentrate in this heat how about you??

Geta - its horrid not knowing for sure, I would have thought that the hcg levels would have depleted rapidly if you had cp, so if you want to double check with gp or nhs direct then dont be afraid to as that is what they ate paid for!!

Fedup - ooh never heard of the nipple boobie thing, but if you are feeling nervous about it I would say book yourself a docs appointment, its worth it if it takes the worry away.

Stone, dildoos - im with you guys on the syncing bit I think, af due tues. One minute I think oooh is that nausea then the next I think oooh is that a af pain!! Ive resisted any temptation to POAS how ive managed that I dont know but I will be honest, the last two daysive checked my temp and its still above atm. Although its so bloody hot thats probably whats causing the nausea and higher temp! !

Keep up the good work all in dtd stage!!
Hope thr 2ww is nearing the end for all who are in it.

Oh gosh, just looked up at the clock and seen the time!! Ooooppppsss! Nighty night all. :0)

dildoos Mon 22-Jul-13 07:37:41

Geta- I had positive darker tests for 6 weeks after but I had started getting the cyst that supports the pregnancy before placenta forms but no sign of a bAby sad but they took bloods in the end until my hcg was below 5. Epau let me go when they were below 20! Call them back hon and say darker get bloods to see if rising! Demand another scan xx

StoneBaby Mon 22-Jul-13 07:56:31

Well BFN this morning. So now waiting for af to turn up (probably tomorrow).

Will be back later

dildoos Mon 22-Jul-13 08:05:14

Stone angry to bfn! I am still awaiting af but its on its way I have the pains grrrr x thanks for you x

Ninunina Mon 22-Jul-13 08:22:16

Geta I echo what the others have told you. You need to go back to the EPU and get your bloods checked and possibly even request another scan. At least you'll know where you stand.
Stone sorry about you BFN flowers
Fedup you're making me wonder if I ovulated last month. I also had sore boobs (unusual for me) and I didn't get any ovulation pain (which I normally get quite uncomfortable pains). Things were back to normal this month though. 2dpo and no sore boobs and had my usual ovulation pain.

So 2ww for me now! I'm wondering if I should try and avoid the booze! The next 2 weeks are very jam packed with activities so it's going to be hard to be good. Maybe I'll set myself a 2 drink limit when out with friends!

dildoos Mon 22-Jul-13 08:40:22

I have to say I am really excited for Kate and wills today smile
My due date would have been around same time but I feel quite emotionally content and very excited for them.

AbiBub Mon 22-Jul-13 09:06:44

I know dildoos, so excited for then both, it brings me back to when I went into labour with our ds, although very traumatic its was worth it in the end!! I wonder what sex the baby is.... maybe a girl?! Eeeeee! Boo hissss to af pains though for you, ive had a weird old time, one minute I feel nauseous and then the next minute I feel af pains, wish my body would make its mind up!!

Stone sorry to hear of bfn sad I was really rooting for a bfp for you. Any af symptoms?

Ninu I think a 2drink limit is fine, a few of us on here decided to just relax in the 2ww regards alcohol. I tend to only have 2drinks at any one time, so I think you are perfectly allowed to have a couple of drinks!!

Whats everyones plans for the week coming? aside of melting of course


dildoos Mon 22-Jul-13 09:36:44

I know it all comes flooding back, and this is all our special gift our next king or queen one day and so precious! I think girl eeeeeek! Too excited x

BartBaby Mon 22-Jul-13 10:35:50

The sundshine has gone now for us up in the north east sad its been cloudy and cooler since saturday. Although it has been a bit of a relief tbh. One more day before the thunderstorms were supposed to be having would have been nice though maybe.

geta sorry you're habing a tough time of it. I dont have any experience with cp so cant offer any advice other than if you arent happy with it then definately go back and het things checked again. It may at least be able to put your mind at rest.

fed up i am also impressed with the twice in one day grin and also a but jealous! I think weve only ever mamaged that once or twice ever although like you my ex was also more up for it than dh were also more of a weekend type couple. Probably die to dh often being away during the week. Ive noticed since tracking things whilst ttc that thursdays, saturdays and sundays are the norm here although sometimes there are slight variations but id never noticed a pattern before.

stone and dildoos sorry for your bfn's. its not ober yet though hang on in there just in case. And one sorry af showed up.

muzzy we only managed dtd once this month at the right time and it does make you feel like you havent really teied hard enough. But if you managed twice on cd18 then you should be in with a better shot.

abi well dont on not poas! Fx for you.

ninu good luck for the 2ww. You will defonately be ok with a couple of drinks at a time. I dont normally give up in the 2ww, although this month me and dh have decided to. More to look better on the beach though on our holiday in sept rather than for ttc purposes.

Sorry its been a rather long post! Ive been lurking but not posted for a while. Im somewhere in the middle of the 2ww and have done well so far with not counting days and no opk's. And no symptoms or sore boobs or anything either. But i can feel the nuttyness trying to set in now... Had a dream last night where i did a pg test at the docs and was a bfp. Then text a pic of it to dh to tell him. And the due date was our wedding anniversary next year, whice would be around when it would be due if i really was this month. It felt so real its a bit disappointing when i woke up.

AbiBub Mon 22-Jul-13 11:25:09

Hey bart!! Hopefully your dream will come true!! Keeping all pinkies crossed for you hon!

Well although I haven't poas yet, ive got mixed signals ahoy here! I feel nauseous, which im now putting downto the heat, as I have that all to familiar feeling of feeling 'looser' down below, does anyone else get that before their af? Also I was really naughty and took my temp which is near enough normal sad plus keep getting the little dull achey pains too.

One day we'll all get bfp and it will be fabby, eh!!


fedupofrainydays Mon 22-Jul-13 13:39:33

Hi bart I hope that dream comes true too!

abi hope af doesn't rock up. I think I'm glad I don't do temping as I'm already a bit mad and know that it would make me even worse! The loose thing before af sounds interesting! Not sure i get that - just crampy.

I too am a bit excited bout the royal baby although really wish it was me, not being a royal but having a baby! I think it's a boy! Early labour can go on for days so hope the press have even more stamina!

So boobs are less sore today so don't really know what that means. Still wondering whether I ov'd and if i had taken my temp maybe I would know!! ninu maybe you didn't ov or maybe it's just our hormones going a bit crazy with us!

Still scorchio here despite some rain overnight!

dildoos Mon 22-Jul-13 14:28:21

Bart hellloo lovely to hear from you!
Fed up- great news on boobs my lovely!
The excitement is rising in our home on the birth of the royal little one, my dd is poorly but loving keep watching news to see a real life prince or princess baby bless her, hoping they are doing well and have air con poor girl! X

dildoos Mon 22-Jul-13 16:25:00

Just paid good money for a fr testangry
Bfn !

dildoos Mon 22-Jul-13 17:30:36

Just called gp and 21 day bloods came back normal ?! Would this be the case when If I didn't ovulate? So confused! Still no sign of af! I want it here so can crack on with trying again ! Oh bum!

fedupofrainydays Mon 22-Jul-13 17:50:35

So sorry dildo
Af is late as well isn't she?
Well I'm currently already having a beer in the garden. This boiling weather calls for it as ds has a big splash in the huge paddling pool that DH tell me will make us broke for how much it costs to fill up!

StoneBaby Mon 22-Jul-13 18:09:16

So far today I used a cb and a erfr!! (Bogof at Boots for the fr) both bfn and I got crampy feeling so I guess af will be here tomorrow

dildoos I can't comment but fx af won't appear

ninu have a drink during your 2ww. It's already a stressful time!

bart hi

dildoos Mon 22-Jul-13 18:16:47

Yes af now 2 days late and would have shown on a fr by now so now just need it to come so I can feel confusedangrysad thenblush and can then feel grin in my next 2 ww!
Stone sorry your getting the bfn too! This is rubbish!
Fed up- now fx for your bfp how many days to go?
How's everyone else doing?
Where's the royal baby? I feel so impatient lol cx

onelittlepiglet Mon 22-Jul-13 19:20:07

Sorry to hear about this dildoos - I had a similar thing three months ago when my cycle was 35 days after having been 28-30 for months. I was convinced I was pg but sadly was bloody annoying having to wait for AF and everything be on hold but she did turn up 5 days late! I put it down to ovulating later than I should as I'd had a really bad migraine when I should have ovulated so was pretty stressed out.

Really hope that either AF shows up or you get a BFP! Could it be that you ovulated later than normal and so are not technically 'late' yet?

muzzy1 Mon 22-Jul-13 19:38:44

Sorry to hear about the bfn. We are so due a BFP on this thread!

muzzy1 Mon 22-Jul-13 19:43:19

Oh and I am also excited jealous about the royal baby! Girl I reckon.

dildoos Mon 22-Jul-13 19:55:20

One - I ran out of test sticks so think I ovulated later but I have never used a decent set before so unsure if this is normal or not? However if was a lot later we stopped Dtd so would be our of a chance anyways, keeping things crossed for it to arrive sooner than later !
Muzzy me to I think girl , I am overly excited as is dd bless her xx

fedupofrainydays Mon 22-Jul-13 20:57:21

I knew it was a boy!!
Hoping this news will spur this thread on to have some bfps very soon. Stupid af witch needs to F off for a while and let us all get up duffed.

dildoos Mon 22-Jul-13 21:03:28

Here here fed up !
I was wrong on my guess lol!
Now for the name, I had Henry for dd obviously didn't use it but feel fitting for a young prince grin

fedupofrainydays Mon 22-Jul-13 21:28:28

I don't think it will be Henry as Harry is a Henry. Maybe George or Edward?

dildoos Mon 22-Jul-13 21:41:33

Edward is lovely and I do love George but it seems really popular at the momentgrin
It's just wonderful news for us all to share with them x

AbiBub Mon 22-Jul-13 23:27:44

Im thinking it may be either George or Alexander, but lets be honest I was wrong on the gender so who knows!! Its so excting and wonderful and so pleased forthem!!

Now all we need is a few if not all bfps on here eh!!
My body is still playing silly buggers so just in case, I have stuck a towel in overnight for the evil af which could probably turn up due tomorrow, I have a few tummy cramps and my driving has gone all 'vera' on me!! Not expecting to be pg tbh but then thats because its the norm for me now since trying since jan and a couple of cp's since then. One day maybe. If af doesnt turn up by tomorrow im going to leave it till possibly wed to poas, only because if af doesnt turn up during the night I test in the morning that af is due, and then she rocks up a few hours later, so may save a test at least!!

Best get to bed, am cream crackered today because of the bloomin heat!!

Night all! :0)

fedupofrainydays Tue 23-Jul-13 07:27:14

Yes I thought Alexander could be in the running too.

Hope af didn't arrive abi. We are in dire need of a bfp on this thread!

So I was already sweating at 6.30'this morning and now feeling sick. Nothing to do with symptom spotting in the 2ww, just too bloody hot!

AbiBub Tue 23-Jul-13 08:42:23

Morning fedup! It is horridly hot isnt it, we were supposed to have had thunderstorms last night but it was a no showso its going to be another hot one today confused

No af this morning, I am so tempted to check my temp, but also dont want to see it lower, as yesterday when I checked it at the same time as the day before it was actually higher.

I hope we get some bfps on this thread soon, we all thoroughly deserve it!!

How is everyone? smile

StoneBaby Tue 23-Jul-13 08:52:49

AF didn't arrive today. But I didn't POAS yet today

For sure we need BFP!!!

2beornot Tue 23-Jul-13 08:57:39

Morning ladies.

So who's still around?

My first AF since my ERPC is on her way out, so I'm officially ttc again. Although if one more person tells me how everyone they know who had an ERPC got pregnant again just by winking at their DP I'll scream!! Don't they know how I get my hopes so much anyway?!

Wedding anniversary today so am going out tonight and finally get to drink the bubbly that's been chilling in the fridge!!

AbiBub Tue 23-Jul-13 09:02:03

Eeeek keeping my fx for you stone!

Im convinced im not pg, I think my body is just confused!! Im not going to poas until tomorrow unless af turns up during the day, which im expecting it to!!

dildoos Tue 23-Jul-13 09:05:22

Af at least now can start again !
Good news stone grin

AbiBub Tue 23-Jul-13 09:06:50

2be!!!!!!! Hello hon!! Welcome back! I'm still around very much so

Happy Anniversary! I hope you have a wonderful evening and enjoy that bubbly! :0)

I dont know why people say stuff like that, they think they are helping but ultimately they need a slap good talking to on what should not be said! Big hugz and good to see you back! grin

AbiBub Tue 23-Jul-13 09:10:56

Dildoos was that your af has arrived? If so big hugz but at least you're not stuck in limbo anymore and as you say you can start again, which also means the fun bit of dtd wink

dildoos Tue 23-Jul-13 09:22:36

Abi sadly yessad but going on hols in12 days so right over ovulation wink thinking rested= baby? If I conceive I shall call it Devon grin

AbiBub Tue 23-Jul-13 09:45:04

Ahhh let's hope the hols produces a sticky bean then, shall keep my fx for you for this month!! :0) quite often ive heard babys are concieved on holiday so it must be because you relax more on hols!! grin

dildoos Tue 23-Jul-13 10:32:03

Sorry have to post I feel miserable sad struggling with no bfp sad afangry and a little green eyed monster as desperate for a little bundle too. Sorry ladies can't tell people as feel mean xx

StoneBaby Tue 23-Jul-13 10:40:19

dildoos sad for you. Take care

Still nothing here and still bfn angry

dildoos Tue 23-Jul-13 11:20:31

Please I would like tips for this coming cycle?
My thoughts smep, ovulation tests, anyone tried conceive? Anything else? Someone said drink loads of water? Please all tips no matter how silly required grin xx

AbiBub Tue 23-Jul-13 11:35:54

Oh dildoos sad you're not mean, we are all just wanting it so badly that we all completely understand what stage your at. Biggest hugz. The best bit of advice I can offer is when dtd is try to forget you're ttc. Because with ds I was all upset when month on month I was not falling pg that in the end I kinda gave up and that was when I fell pg. I know its a cliche to just say relax and being a fellow nutter I know its tough going to try and relax when its the only thing that we all really want now, but stress is probably one of the things that is stopping a lot of us getting pg. If we can offload here at least that is a bit of escapism, and we can all continue to be the most wonderful support for each other and have a giggle at the same time then hopefully this will be just what we need. One thing I started to do when ttc ds was I started walking on a regular basis just to get gentle exercise but not over do it. I am seriously considering doing this again, even if it just once a week its gotta help right?! If anyone else has some handy tips on things to help on ttc then that would be fabby too!!

Stone - I hate this time of limbo, im in the same boat as you apart from I haven't poas as im too scared to get a bfn which is probably what it will be! Due af today so technically not late yet although normally the af witch would have turned up over last nights sleep. Im even too scared about checking my temp...... confused

Hows everyone else today? Big hugz to us all! x

dildoos Tue 23-Jul-13 11:54:25

Will really aim to try relax am on hols with dp and my best friend and her family and of course my gorgeous girl so hopefully enough to relax! Now looking into the fertility monitor! Has anyone on here tried it? X

onelittlepiglet Tue 23-Jul-13 12:08:18

Oh dildoos - sorry your AF has arrived but I'm glad the waiting is over and you can start again. That's how I always look at it although feel rubbish.

I know exactly how I feel - I've stopped logging into Facebook because there are new babies and new pregnancies everywhere - mainly to my friends with children around the same age (or younger) than my dd. It makes it all the worse when nothing is happening for us. my Dh is understanding but he doesn't feel the disappointment in the same way as me. He is convinced it will be ok, and I've convinced myself the opposite - probably not healthy. I wish I could relax...I do try but it isn't easy. So glad that you are all here to understand how each other feels!

Hope your holiday can be relaxing and you get plenty of DTD time!

dildoos Tue 23-Jul-13 12:12:52

One sorry your at that low point too! I agree I avoid pregnant people situations however work with a good friend who's preg and she is wonderfully sensitive to me! However feel another friend about to tell me too confused

muzzy1 Tue 23-Jul-13 12:29:56

I'm sorry's so gutting isn't it.
I think abi is right about relaxing but also although we say it only takes one time and sometimes it does, most people I know have fallen pg when they have had dtd LOADS during the fertile time...have you tried smep? I'm doing that next month if no bfp this time!

onelittlepiglet Tue 23-Jul-13 13:34:51

Yes we are going all out for smep this month too! Dh is a bit worried I think!

I was tempted with a clear blue fertility monitor too but think I might wait before I shell out the money.

Dh is going to start taking a vitamin supplement too - he suggested it and it can't hurt!

fedupofrainydays Tue 23-Jul-13 15:45:22

Just a quick one as on training sesh all day today but just wanted to send you hugs dildoos

Ttc is so heartbreaking and soul destroying so am with you on this.... It's so hard when everyone is pregnant around you (take my NCT scenario) and trying and failing to 'relax' when you want something so so badly.

My DH cracked last night when I made him dtd just in case i ovulated late, not understanding why we should be like this when both other times I was pregnant it was when we were relaxed and 'just did it a few times when I thought I was fertile'. If only it was that easy to revert.

Hugs for you xx

2beornot Tue 23-Jul-13 18:03:49

dildoos it always sucks when AF rears her ugly head, but I find I start planning dtd days again very quickly, and then start working EDD if it does work. Oh yes I too am a glorified nutter!!! I hope you manage to enjoy your holiday. Sorry I have no weird and wonderful tips!!!

2beornot Tue 23-Jul-13 18:09:23

fedup how I long for the days when I was ttc my dd. I had literally no idea about ovulation, fertile days, 2ww etc. I basically knew AF arrived every 28 days and you needed to dtd. Shocking really, but then I fell first cycle!!! Now I'm obsessed with dtd on set days, looking out for EWCM (although I still don't really know what that is) and symptom spotting.

StoneBaby Tue 23-Jul-13 19:24:21

Still no AF but still got period like pains. So I guess it's late this month hmm

Big un-mn hugs to all who need it

getagoldtoof Tue 23-Jul-13 20:18:05

Hey gang. I'm sorry to hear about af dildoos. Thats so disappointing.

Fingers still crossed for you stone.

Fedup, it is a bit heartbreaking. It took a year first time round for us, god knows how long it will take for #2...

I really do need a hug here. My frers are still showing positive and temps are up. I took a hospital test and line is barely visible so obvs hcg still v low. I'm planning on going to epu on Friday. I'm sure they'll tell me I'm a fool. But I want to know when will I ovulate again! I want to have a baby so much. I told my mum about whats been going on and she started wittering on about the royal baby. I too feel jealous and pissed off with hearing about babies all fucking day (sorry).

dildoos Tue 23-Jul-13 20:39:26

Getagold- so sorry about your experience and your mum going on about a baby it's so hard on you!
Hugs to you! X

Thanks guys, just sobbing here and dp not getting why I want a fertility monitor and I just want to smack with a stick!

fedupofrainydays Tue 23-Jul-13 23:19:01

My mum is useless too geta In respect to my situ. i just get told to 'well, do my plan' which is basically to stick a thermometer up my fanny and only have sex 4 days after my period which is when I apparently must ovulate. Any other time is wasted sex. A very odd conversation to have with your mother.

And of course extremely Useful and sympathetic when totally miserable and exhausted most of the ttc techniques? She couldn't quite understand why I hadn't responded to her texts...

But I also would be going totally nuts if I were you geta, so hang in there and you will get your answers soon. They can't think you are nuts. And ffs, can we get more nuts than we are already? So just indulge and be nuts - you have a bfp(or multiple) and no clear pregnancy so you want answers and in my opinion you bloody deserve them rather than this total head fu*k of am I, aren't I!

AbiBub Tue 23-Jul-13 23:44:27

Hey all!! Hugest hugz to all that need it, dildoo, geta ..... well all of you really namely because you are all going through a tough time whichever stage the cycle is at, I would say me for a hug too but I would feel insanely weird hugging myself !!

Glad to see we are ranting on here and giving great support for sure!! I still have no af and too damn scared now to Poas, how bloody sad am I as a nutter eh! I should love poas normally really eager, but this time round im too scared....whats that all about?!?

Im sorry, I was going to reply in a bit more depth but knackered and only just had a stooopid pot noodle for dinner which im so gonna regret as had to take my mum to dentist and she suffers from anxiety so needed a bundle of support!! Sorry probably not making much sense abi shut up

Anywho, not sure if I can be brave enough to poas tomorrow morning if af doesn't turn up overnight. Should I?! Dream sweetly ladies. x

fedupofrainydays Wed 24-Jul-13 00:10:40

I can only say that if it was me abi I would POAS rather than prolong the agony.. But that's just me! I'd rather know ASAP whether bfp or not, bit then I'm clearly impatient / like to prepare myself for the worst - ie if bfn them at least I can gear myself up for af. But that's how I like to deal with it.

Willing a bfp to come for this thread though.....

AbiBub Wed 24-Jul-13 00:45:23

Fedup you are so right. I think tiredness has kicked in I need to grow a pair and get on with it!! If af hasnt turned up by tomorrow although I think it will, then I will poas!


BartBaby Wed 24-Jul-13 06:23:59

Ooohh good luck abi i wouldnt have been able to wait this long but i do see what you mean though. I have fx for you flowers

Im with you fedup i prefer to know earlier on if its going to be a bfn and then i cant get my hopes up so much i suppose.

Just a quicky anyway im going to try a d get another hours sleep before ds wakes up. Although he could wake any minute. I hope the rest of you are ok. Big hugs geta one and dildoos . And i hope af hasnt caught you yet stone

Im about 9dpo. I gave in and looked at my calander but as i didnt use opk's im only going on that the last few months i ov on cd14. So could be wrong this month still. Had a bit of nausea but still no other symptoms. Definately feeling the nuttyness now. Really want to poas. But im resisting buying them, then i have none to use!

fedupofrainydays Wed 24-Jul-13 07:04:37

Soooooo abi? Fx for you.

So I had some drinks last night, not loads and felt so sick all might and couldn't sleep - ended up making myself sick at 3 am as knew it was only thing going to get to to feel better. Lets say I'm feeling just a little rough on the train this morn.

However I'm also 5 dpo (ish) and was feeling sick most of yesterday (even before drinks!) but think its just heat / what I'm always experiencing between ov and af. My sore boobs have completely gone too which is both a good and bad sign depending in what i choose to believe today confused

bart I have two cb digitals and 2 frer at home and feeling the tension building between us at only 5 dpo, god help me!! Really not positive this month though as despite doing SMEP (minus the one day when DH was out) I just don't feel it this month. sad I hope you got an extra hours sleep in! Ds was still snoozing when i left at 6.30 this morn which I actually hate as I don't get to see him before work!

How's everyone this morning?

fedupofrainydays Wed 24-Jul-13 07:40:03

Ps. My highlight of yesterday was bursting into tears on male colleague (thankfully a peer) about my mc. He was very good about it though and didnt go all awkward on me. I know his wife had 3 mc and is now pregnant 13 weeks with dc # 2. So in odd way, although it was a bit embarrassing I feel encouraged this even after all the sadness and tough times they went through they are now having their long awaited second child (and dc 1 is only 3 so not a huge age gap). Positive news amongst the tears!!

BartBaby Wed 24-Jul-13 08:10:14

fedup no i didnt get any more sleep sad he was up at 7 and i hadnt gotten back to sleep by then. You are in with more of a chance than me this month. We only managed 1 dtd at the right time

getagoldtoof Wed 24-Jul-13 08:40:05

Abi have you poas? I would not have been able to hold off. I, too, would rather know before af as then I can feel the disappointment in stages.

Fedup - mums are weird! Why does yours think those would be your fertile days?! And why do they offer advice when all you want is empathy. My friends who have never ttc just don't get it either. I'm so glad to have found loads of other nutters!

Bart - not buying them is the only way. That blasted boots bogof offer on frer has totally enabled my addiction. My friend's a nurse and got me some hospital ones which are nowhere near as sensitive, so I could probably poas every day until christmas.

muzzy1 Wed 24-Jul-13 09:54:26

abi have you poas yet???
Oh no is the frer offer still on? That just fuels my madness...3dpo and already symptom spotting...although I can't spot any obviously!

fedupofrainydays Wed 24-Jul-13 12:04:37

abi ??????

onelittlepiglet Wed 24-Jul-13 12:25:05

Ooo exciting - fx for you abi!

Fed up - you poor thing - I hate bursting into tears at work but sometimes you jus can't keep emotions in. I'm glad it was someone who understands and he was supportive. And that is a positive story about them having #2 after 3mc

Not much to report for me, I'm just lurking and waiting for AF to go. Only cd 5 so just waiting until I can start testing with opks on cd10. I get fed up of waiting for key times of the month and wishing the rest of the time to go quickly! But I guess we all do that a bit reall...

dildoos Wed 24-Jul-13 13:03:38

Abi????? Where are you? Still in shock with bfp say there looking at the +++++++ I hope grin x

fedupofrainydays Wed 24-Jul-13 17:06:41

Where are you abi ?! We need to know!!

One I start with opks on cd 8 and good thing as this month it was pos on cd9! I hate the 2 ww. The 'lower' down cramps have begun that i used to think were pregnancy related / implantation but quickly realised no, and was told my the doctor no, apparently it's 'just me'. Helpful!

geta without being rude I'm not sure my mum is particularly bright. Although my dad is super clever so I can report I'm somewhere in the middle!! She obvs thinks we all ovulated at same time, and her's happened to be 4 days after the end of her period so apparently mine should be too. Funnily enough though, I think she was right this month so I should swallow my words. But... This was an usual month. I agree, you just want empathy... And a bit of love not more advice that you already know...

Indeed, was just thinking this morning how its so nice to have a group of, albeit faceless, ladies to talk to who genuinely get what I'm going through - thanks ladies xx

I clearly need to steer clear from boots if their bogof is still going.... Yikes! We got one of those pie chart bank statements through yesterday and I had visions of one day opening it up to a huge segment of spend saying 'pregnancy tests, opks and other pointless ttc paraphernalia' !!!

fedupofrainydays Wed 24-Jul-13 17:08:21

*an unusual not usual month

StoneBaby Wed 24-Jul-13 17:50:21

Abi ???????????

Just used my last POAS and BFN so I now will wait for af to arrive

geta sorry to say so but it's a bit inconsiderate from your mum

So we're waiting for abi and good luck for those in 2ww.

I looked into smep but there's no way my DH can follow that programme! blush

muzzy1 Wed 24-Jul-13 17:58:46

Ah sorry stone...these bfn are rubbish!! I'm with you on that as as much as my dh thinks he's always up for it I don't think he'd manage smep either!

muzzy1 Wed 24-Jul-13 18:04:43

Now abi where are you???

dildoos Wed 24-Jul-13 18:22:56

Abi? Abi? Where for art thou abi? smile

fedupofrainydays Wed 24-Jul-13 18:34:20

On my walk back from the station I went past a block of flats from which I heard a woman clearly in the throes of passion. I couldn't help but think, I wonder if she's doing SMEP but then quickly removed that idea given she was clearly having too much fun for ttc !! Oh I wish it was still fun all the time and not sometimes such a chore!

2beornot Wed 24-Jul-13 18:41:15

Abi?! Any POAS action yet?

BartbabyWith my last pregnancy I POAS at dpo7 and got a faint +ve! U never know!!

onelittlepiglet I'm the same. Just waiting to get on with it now!!'

Someone mention a frer offer? - I need to get in on that action!!!

2beornot Wed 24-Jul-13 18:42:56

stone when is AF due? I hope for your sake if she comj g she comes in time!! We've had a few ladies on here who keep getting bfn but no AF. Must be so frustrating!

StoneBaby Wed 24-Jul-13 19:06:58

2be the fr offer is at Boots on a bogof. Af was due yesterday!

Abi ???

fedupofrainydays Wed 24-Jul-13 19:21:39

How loud do we have to shout ABIIIII!!

fedupofrainydays Wed 24-Jul-13 19:35:25

2 out of 2 for me. A boy called George! (Clearly I should get a bfp just for that, right?!)

BartBaby Wed 24-Jul-13 19:49:37

I called in boots but they didnt have any frer tests at all. Its only one of the little boots though and not the big shops. Probably a good thing though as it would have only been a waste of money im sure. Im around 9dpo i think if i ov when i thought i did. Although i get no ov symptoms at all and cant make head nor tale of cm so im only going by the last few months being on cd14.

Ive pressed the preview post bit halfway through by accident so i cant see any other posts! Hope you are all ok. And feeling better than yesterday those that weren't feeling too good flowers

dildoos Wed 24-Jul-13 20:10:08

Good luck Bart! Maybe we should have a stats then we know who to pester for poas next lol!

ABI!!!!!!!!!! Has the toilet swallowed you? Have you been knocked out by huge swollen sore breasts? X

getagoldtoof Wed 24-Jul-13 20:31:23

Fedup - I love the thought of your ttc nutter pie chart. 10% bills, food and travel 90% preg tests, ov kits and fertility apps.

Bart good news you weren't able to waste your entire income in boots!

Stone, sorry to hear about bfn. We are not getting much luck around here. I hope af doesn't come and you can get a nice bfp in the next day or so.

Dildoos, can you tell me a bit more about the cyst you had? I think that's what happened to me. My frer today is a little lighter than it was yesterday. I am hoping it will all just fuck off now- I've had enough. What I'm trying to decide is whether or not to go to epu tomorrow morning. They said on my scan report last week haemorrhagic corpus luteum on the side I've been getting pains.

Where is abi anyway?

AbiBub Wed 24-Jul-13 21:14:07

Hey ladies, sorry have had a manic day! Just at my mums atm. She says you're all very sweet. grin

So...... poas, toilet didnt swallow me! As soon as I finished peeing on it, a line came up straight away!no 3 minutes to wait! Bfp! Still in shock, early days, is it ok if I still lurk on here for a bit??? Also I would love to see how you're all getting on!! smile


muzzy1 Wed 24-Jul-13 21:19:33

YYYYEEEEEAAAAAHHHHHHHH! you so deserve it abi! Congratulations. Hope you have a smooth pregnancy xxxx

fedupofrainydays Wed 24-Jul-13 21:20:02

I can't stay awake any longer so hopefully will be good news from abi when I wake! And my sleeping I'm away from amazon and the temptation to spend away on some new sticks!

Stone - sorry re bfn, that single line is just so harsh. I never believe them and literally take everyone apart to see of there really is a second line, there never has been. I'm starting to wish I kept my bfps as proof it can be done!

Geta - did they not say what that meant? Sounds like either a cyst or the follicle of the egg bleeding? Who knows but they should have explained it to you. If i was you i would probably call up and ask. Hope you are ok xx

AbiBub Wed 24-Jul-13 21:20:32

I promise when I get a chance tomorrow I will reply properly! ! wink x

fedupofrainydays Wed 24-Jul-13 21:21:51

Ahhhh YES!!! We so need a bfp on here Abi and yay for you! So so pleased for you xx [big grin]

fedupofrainydays Wed 24-Jul-13 21:22:33

No idea why my big grin didnt work. Silly phones!

BartBaby Wed 24-Jul-13 21:25:54

Yey abi congratulations!!!! So pleased for you flowers

dildoos Wed 24-Jul-13 21:30:06

Yay yay yay abi abi abi I am so excited for you gringringringrinwe can celebrate at last !!!!!!! Of course you should linger we want to hear all about it! I googled its the size of a poppy seed grin xx