Advice re OPK please-very early smiley face

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StrawberryMojito Sun 02-Jun-13 09:49:54

This is my second month using an OPK (clearblue digital that tells you when you are both high and peak fertility). Last month I didn't get a high fertility sign at all (flashing smiley face), it just went straight to peak fertility (fixed smiley face). This was on day 12 which was a couple of days earlier than expected but still seemed normal.

I only finished my period a couple of days ago but started using the opk straight away as my cycles vary a bit (26-30 days). Today (day 8) I got a high fertlity sign. Surely this is too early?

So, we had sex last night just for fun rather than baby making but now I'm thinking should we do it again tonight as I got the high (but not peak) fertility sign or shall we just start doing it every other day until I get the peak fertility smiley face. I don't want to exhaust DH and his swimmers but don't want to miss the window either.

blueamber Sun 02-Jun-13 11:30:20

I think that you usually get high fertility for 4-5 days? In that case it would match with your peak being on cd12 last month. During high fertility, dtd every other day would ensure you don't miss that window, because sperm survives for a few days. Good luck smile

BNmum Sun 02-Jun-13 11:33:08

Hi Strawberry, i'm afraid i don't have any answers but wanted to share my experiences with you. I'm also using advanced cb digital opks and this is my first month. I got my first flashing smiley (high fertility) on cd10 and have continued to get high fertility every day since, i'm now on cd17. I would suggest you continue to use opks until you get your peak symbol and try to dtd every other day until you get peak. Keep me posted if you have anything changes. Good luck!

StrawberryMojito Sun 02-Jun-13 12:32:18

Thanks both, I think we will maybe give it a miss tonight and do it again tommorrow . Hopefully my peak fertility sign will come mid week which would be more normal. It's strange that I didn't get the flashing smiley at all last month.

It kills the romance, having to schedule sex!

Honestly Strawberry I'd be giving these kits a wide berth as of now. They can to some extent rely on a woman's desperation to conceive. These kits work on two misleading principles; namely that there is one rise in LH every month and that such a rise is followed by ovulation. Both are simply not true.

Have sex when you both feel like it; not only when you think its ovulation time. It is far too easy to get that date wrong and signs can be misleading. Ovulation is not an exact science and it can occur earlier, later or not at all in any given cycle. Also timed intercourse can cause problems within the relationship; it can make the man feel used. You need to take the pressure off both of you, OPKs can just add to stress.

StrawberryMojito Sun 02-Jun-13 21:00:18

Tbh, Attila, if we don't get a bfp after using them this month, I think we'll just revert to just having sex whenever. We conceived DS accidentally and was hoping that it would be easy to conceive again. OPKs are a bit of a headache.

BNmum Tue 04-Jun-13 11:29:00

Have you had a peak yet strawberry?

charleylarlie Tue 04-Jun-13 11:37:51

I've used these for the first time this month, and yesterday (day 7) got the low fertility symbol, but today (day 8) got the peak fertility (fixed smiley face) symbol so now I don't know what to think as it has missed out the high fertility symbol altogether.

I never got a positive result at all with the cheap internet ones, but day 8 seems too early for there to be a surge (as it would mean I'd be ovulating on around day 10). Still, am taking it as a positive and will be making sure to dtd for the next couple of nights. Good luck getting your peak Strawberry and wishing you baby dust.

StrawberryMojito Tue 04-Jun-13 13:04:45

I got my 3rd flashing smiley face this morning, still no peak fertility but then it is only day 10 of my cycle so hopefully will get it in the next few days. We dtd last night and will carry on doing it every other day until fixed smiley face/peak fertility day (whenever that maybe) and then do it two days on the trot. That is the plan anyway but DH has man flu at the moment so not sure he is up to it!

Whilst googling info about the clearblue advanced ov kit, I came across a thread from another forum where loads of women were getting days and days of high fertility days before the peak day, apparently it is just because your oestrogen level is increasing prior to the LH surge.

StrawberryMojito Tue 04-Jun-13 13:06:05

Good luck to you to Charley and BNmum

StrawberryMojito Tue 04-Jun-13 13:07:04

And blue amber, looks like you were right.

BNmum Tue 04-Jun-13 13:48:04

Good luck to all everyone too!

I'd also heard that you could get high fertility for 4 days then peak but since I'm on my 10th day of high fertility I'm starting to wonder if I'll ever get a peak! Where did you find the other thread strawberry I wouldnt mind a read. I hope your DH sorts himself out quickly!

Sounds promising charley, happy humping. Do you usually have a short cycle?

StrawberryMojito Tue 04-Jun-13 14:33:42
StrawberryMojito Tue 04-Jun-13 14:35:17

Yay, it worked but it takes you to page 2, the girls dilemma is on page 1.

BNmum Tue 04-Jun-13 14:54:26

Ooh! Thanks, I'll read it now...

BNmum Tue 04-Jun-13 16:05:22

Oh my life! Thats a long thread! Just read up to page 29/40.
Interesting to see some people had 10+ days of high fertility (flashing smiley) and I didn't know that the holder carries a 'memory' to monitor your hormone changes. Clear blue should improve there info sheet to go with this product!!

StrawberryMojito Tue 04-Jun-13 17:31:07

You have more patience than me, I gave up after about page 10. I agree with you though, Clearblue give the impression that you should only expect a couple of flashing smileys when in reality you could get loads. No doubt a marketing ploy to get you using more sticks over the course of a cycle.

charleylarlie Tue 04-Jun-13 19:09:52

Thanks Strawberry and BNmum. My cycle is normally around 29 days, so not that short, which makes the fixed smiley face surprising.

DP is working late tonight, but hopefully will be back in time to dtd today and then again tomorrow. After that will prob switch back to every other day or two.

I'm in two minds about the OPK myself - on the one hand pleased to get the smiley face, but just not convinced it is correct! And as I was expecting to use the sticks for a few days yet, I feel a bit cheated as this is the first time I've used them. Still, if it's accurate I don't care. Not much point in me testing for the rest of the month anyway, so will have to just carry on dtd as normal and fingers crossed for a bfp this month. If not, will start testing earlier next month and see if there is a pattern.

I agree - they don't provide enough information on the help sheet that comes with the pack. I feel like I've spent the best part of the day googling! Will look at your link now, Strawberry. smile

BNmum Tue 04-Jun-13 19:25:03

I also read in the other thread that you will always get low fertility (unless ov that day) on first day of testing as it uses this day as a benchmark and there's nothing else to compare your hormone levels to. So chances are charley had you tested earlier you probably would have got your high before the peak.

When others used another brand to compare they found that they ovulated 8-24 hrs later so majority were saying that these advanced tests gave more warning/were more sensitive which is promising. They just seem to be throwing out some suprising dates but maybe that's why we've failed so far??

Thanks for the link strawberry it's been most educational.

BNmum Tue 04-Jun-13 19:58:50

I also think I'm getting so many high fertility as I started testing too early. I started on cd9, I'm sure I read to start on cd9 if you don't know cycle length (mine can vary) but cant find that now?
If I go by my last cycle 32 days the I should have started tested cd15 for a normal digital clearblue or cd12 for the advanced cb (I suppose to give you the extra high fertility warning before the peak). I'm still having a lot of highs but not as many as I possibly thought. I hope I get a peak soon!

charleylarlie Tue 04-Jun-13 20:05:29

I did wonder about the first day, because there's nothing to compare it to.

It's definitely promising that Clearblue seem to pick up the surge earlier, as it's such a small window, although I'll have another go with my cheapo opks to see if they pick anything up over the next day or two (although have never, ever got a positive).

Have started reading the thread that Strawberry posted, but only up to page 5 so far. I wish I'd discovered it this morning. Although would prob have spent several hours reading it and forgotten to take DS to nursery if I had. Will read some more of it later.

Hope you get your solid smile next time you test BNmum and Strawberry!

Just waiting for DP to get home from work now...

Tryingandimpatient Wed 05-Jun-13 18:49:08

Good luck with your TTC I hope you get a BFP soon!!

I'm not much help with advice as new to using CBFM too but I wanted to share that I understand your confusion!!! I seem to not have any high days and jump straight to peak on CD9!! (28 day cycle).... I am struggling as me and partner are using artifical method of conceiving with syringes due to some problems with natural way so I have no idea if I'm missing it every month as we try too early!!

If trying the normal way I would try and BD every other day but it's not an option and starting to feel it won't happen x

BNmum Wed 05-Jun-13 20:16:52

Hi trying just to be clear we are talking about the clearblue advanced ovulation kit with hormone indicator not the clearblue fertility monitor. I'm not sure how the monitor works (probably the same as advanced opks) but just wanted to make sure that we don't give you any misleading advice. It might be worth posting a new thread as I'm sure lots of people on here use the monitor.

If it does work on the same principles you have a very similar cycle length to charley above and she also got a peak around the same time so I'd be tempted to say its a true reading.

Wishing you lots of luck!

StrawberryMojito Thu 06-Jun-13 11:33:53

Got a fixed smiley face today. So peak fertility after 4 days of high. We dtd last night as part of doing it every other day so we will do it again tonight and, if we have the energy, tomorrow.

Hope it's going well for everyone else.

charleylarlie Thu 06-Jun-13 13:34:05

Yay for fixed smiley faces, Strawberry! Mine disappeared this morning (after 48 hours), and I also noticed that I seem to have stretchy ewcm this morning too, so must be fairly accurate. I’ve never noticed it before, but hopefully am becoming more in tune with my body now. DP and I dtd last night and the night before so fingers crossed.

However, I have also been using the cheap one-step opks that I bought off the internet and today is the first day EVER that I’ve got a positive result from one of those – a definite two thick lines. So, now thinking that DP and I should dtd tonight as well, if it isn't too late by then. That ties in with what you said, Bnmum about CB being a day or two ahead of the other brands in detecting changes.

Trying – I didn’t have much faith in these opks until now, but I’m convinced that two different brands telling me similar things must be picking up on something. Btw, I am only on day 9 now of a 29 day cycle now.

Any news, BNmum?

BNmum Thu 06-Jun-13 14:38:37

Congrats on the peak strawberry, I hope the bding goes to plan.

Wow, that's reassuring charley, I would try and dtd tonight as well if you can. Good luck!

I wish I had some better news but still getting high fertility! I've also been bleeding since tues but I'm continuing to test as I don't believe it's a true af, although its enough to not want to dtd. I had a bleed at cd20 last month but I was hoping it was a one off, it's occurred around the same time again this month, wtf? I never ever suffered from a mid month bleed before. I'm suspicious that its happened since we've started ttc. Anyway I don't think I've ovulated yet because I think I would then drop to low fertility, have you tested again charley on the advanced and did this happen?

StrawberryMojito Thu 06-Jun-13 19:34:10

Is it a heavy bleed BN? I read that you an get mid cycle spotting associated with ovulation. Hopefully that's it.

I'm hoping that we will dtd as planned tonight but DH is still suffering with man flu. He's just bought home an extra hot curry tonight to try and clear his airways. Lucky me...confused

BNmum Thu 06-Jun-13 19:45:50

grin good luck with that strawberry.

It's more than spotting, enough to need to wear pad and enough to not want to dtd but not enough to use a tampon and not as heavy as af. It's a bright fresh colour at the minute.

I thought I might have been ovulation bleeding last month and posted on here. It was suggested that it was more likely that i have PCOS and should go to the docs. I haven't ruled this out but my doc knows about my irregular cycles/family history etc and isn't bothered so I opted to use the OPKs this month to gain a better insight into my cycle before approaching her.

Bambi27 Fri 07-Jun-13 09:56:45

Oh this is giving me hope!! First time this month of using these advanced tests. Never used any ovulation tests but been ttc for 8 months now so thought i would give them a whirl I'm on day 12 and just got first flashing smiley!! Hoping to get solid face soon! I hope we all get our bfp's soon!!! Maybe these tests will give us the help we need!!!

BNmum Fri 07-Jun-13 10:00:06

Fingers crossed bambi! how long is your cycle normally?

StrawberryMojito Fri 07-Jun-13 11:49:53

Morning. How are things going?

Even though I got my fixed smiley yesterday, poor DH felt awful last night and was coughing and sneezing all evening so we decided to give it a miss and he had an early night. However, that must have done the trick as he woke me up at 4.30am to bd before DS woke up (DS is an early riser-anything from 4.45am onwards-it's amazing we want a second actually).

We'll give it another go tomorrow and then have a well earned rest!

I hope your bleeding has stopped BN and you get a peak soon. A trip to the docs sounds like a good plan just to check your hormone levels as a starting point. Fingers crossed its just one of those things and not pcos.

Good luck Bambi!

Bambi27 Fri 07-Jun-13 17:34:38

Normally 28-29 days so going off last one which was 28 so pretty average really! Already got lo who is 2 but had injection after her and really messed body up so only gone back to normal last 4/5 cycles so got fingers crossed!!

Bambi27 Fri 07-Jun-13 17:35:17

Ohh and thanks for good lucks!! Good luck to you guys to! Getting frustrating now!!

Bambi27 Sat 08-Jun-13 08:20:50

Day 13 and second smiley face dtd last night and will do again tonight..usually we do every other but this month think will dtd until 2 days after fixed smiley...hubby will be pleased!

Bambi27 Sat 08-Jun-13 08:21:15

How's everyone else getting on? On the dreaded 2ww now?? X

BNmum Sat 08-Jun-13 08:25:13

How's everyone getting on?

Good work strawberry, a 4.30am booty call is pretty hardcore. I hope you get lucky this cycle.

Are you still getting high fertility bambi?

How's things charley?

Looks like my bleeding has stopped (but not holding breath), still getting high fertility though. I've only got 2 sticks left so my fixed better get move on! Went out to buy some more yesterday and couldn't bring myself to fork out almost £30 on another pack in tesco so went for original cb digital at less than £9.00 for pack of 20 - bargain! I almost went on the net last night to buy another advanced pack but resisted (for now).

BNmum Sat 08-Jun-13 08:25:51

Cross post bambi

BNmum Sat 08-Jun-13 08:27:48

Well done bambi, fingers crossed. I would say after reading other thread don't give up too early as these OPKs seem to give an early reading.

Bambi27 Sat 08-Jun-13 08:38:08

Yes still on high but only on second day at the moment so it's doing what it should do at the moment ....! We shall see!!

Okay I shall try to persist with a few days after peak thanks for advice hubby will be pleased!!

Glad the bleed has stopped hope your peak comes very soon!! I hope mine comes within this pack could not bring myself to buy another for a couple of sticks either!! If I was you I continue to dtd for 4-5 days and assume you've had it?? I know not that helpful....smile

charleylarlie Sat 08-Jun-13 11:45:30

Great news Bambi27!

The CB Digis are pricey, aren't they, BNmum? Here's hoping you get a fixed smiley soon, but a flashing face is good too.

I haven't tried again with the CB digis, as realised they reset themselves after 3 days so would get a blank circle again for the first day. I got a slight reading from my cheapy opk yesterday, but not quite a positive, so we gave it a miss last night. I expect ov has been and gone now and hoping that we've got lucky this month.

Will test again with the cheap ones again later, though I don't entirely trust them.

Bambi27 Sat 08-Jun-13 13:23:52

Yeah pretty pricey, 20-25 pound for ten sticks but hoping its worth it :/

BNmum Sat 08-Jun-13 19:26:30

Oh my life, I've just crumbled and bought a pack of 20 for £22. Not sure what I was thinking other than I really want to know if I ever get a peak. So that's 40 OPKs I'll have - I'm going to be totally POAS crazy!!

When is your BFP due charley?

charleylarlie Sat 08-Jun-13 19:38:25

Can sympathise, BNmum - I am a sucker for anything that I think can help! Only on month 3 of ttc number 2 (have 2 yr old ds) but I seem to be forking out for all sorts. Will be buying LOADS of pg tests later in the month!

AF not due until 25/26th June so 2 and a half weeks away yet. I must ov early, if the opks are anything to go by. DP and I have decided to put it to the test and not dtd for the rest of the month - eek.

Bambi27 Sat 08-Jun-13 20:15:26

I've been pretty restrained so far as only started opks this month and been ttc for 7 months but you got a good deal as I paid £20 for 10 tests!! Hope you all get your bfp's xx

BNmum Sun 09-Jun-13 08:30:37

I don't bloody believe it, only gone and got my peak fertility this morning (cd24)!

I got up, took the test, went back to bed for a quickie before ds woke up, went back to bathroom to check opk and there it was. I was in total disbelief and sat looking at it for ages, hubby came in and said "bloody hell, have I managed to knock you up?" I had to laugh, these things are pretty good but I dont think they're that good grin, if only they could tell you you're preggers after 5mins!

Yeah it was a good deal, I got them on amazon from clearblue themselves. I got them from there in the first place as they were cheaper than the original digitals which I was going to buy. A pack of 20 is £1 more expensive than a box of 10!

BNmum Sun 09-Jun-13 08:33:28

Just thought, I should have tested with a normal digital that I bought the other day to see if it also picked up a lh surge. Will try and hold in wee for 4 hours and test, it's not like I'm short of OPKs now wink

Bambi27 Sun 09-Jun-13 09:35:44

Little frustrated expected fixed smiley today as on day three but have got another flashing smiley sad I hope I get mine soon!!! Glad you got yours and what timing with just dtd! Xx

BNmum Sun 09-Jun-13 10:21:50

Don't worry bambi we worked out that its not set in stone that you will get your fixed after a couple of days. Clearblue need to clarify this to stop unnecessary worrying. Lets face it I've had flashing for 14days! Just keep dtd every other day till you get your fixed then 3days straight miss a day then one more for luck (if doing SMEP)

Bambi27 Sun 09-Jun-13 10:36:26

I only have three sticks left! Hoping I get it before they run out!! Husband will go mad if I buy more!! Have u had fixed now?? Xx

BNmum Sun 09-Jun-13 11:40:38

Yeah I got my fixed (peak) this morning, it stops on the stick for 48hrs now - i suppose to remind you that you're ovulating.

I just bought a new pack last night as only had 2 left which is frustrating but at least I have them for next month if this month is unsuccessful. You have a shorter cycle than me so you could still get your peak within the next 3 days. Fingers crossed!

Bambi27 Sun 09-Jun-13 14:00:29

Oh that's good for you! How longs your cycle? Yeah I'm hoping I should get it tomorrow maybe? We shall see!!!

BNmum Sun 09-Jun-13 19:41:38

My cycle is pretty irregular I use 32days as a rough guide but it can be up to 60 days.

So far my body isn't showing signs of ovulation other than spots appearing on my face and chest, I'm had no ov pain which I sometimes get and no visible increase in cm.

I'll just continue to dtd over the next few days and see what happens.

Bambi27 Sun 09-Jun-13 19:48:46

Oh well it's encouraging that you got your peak I would just do as you said and dtd as much as possible and hope for the best! I really hope you get your bfp this month!!!

Bambi27 Sun 09-Jun-13 20:22:31

Also I don't really know what my body does during ovulation! I must be so out of tune!!

Bambi27 Mon 10-Jun-13 07:10:47

Oh day four of flashing smiley sad really thought today was going to be fixed??! Today is day app on phone says I 'ovulate' but maybe that's a good thing as not been using opks so far and maybe that's why we've not been catching as I ovulate late??!! We shall have to see!!! shock

BNmum Mon 10-Jun-13 08:00:34

I definately would have missed my window if id just used the ov calculators.

Outvof interest, I tested yesterday with a normal cb digi and got -ve, tested again this morning and got a +ve so i think others have been right in saying the advance kit gives you more warning.

Keep testing bambi and good luck!

Bambi27 Mon 10-Jun-13 08:14:02

I will keep testing thanks! And like I said maybe its a good thing as could explain why we haven't caught so far! Only got two sticks left so hoping happens tomo or wed or will be buying more sticks sad sad

BNmum Mon 10-Jun-13 08:18:28

Agh! I can happen, I got my peak with 1 to spare.

Bambi27 Mon 10-Jun-13 08:30:03

Ha ha thanks bnmum you are keeping me sane!! I'm debating getting the tests today ready but sanely know I should just wait until wed!! Ha ha!! No reason to not like I live nowhere near shops!! Just don't like the lonely two sticks staring at me and the stupid blinking face!! I know it's a good thing as been dtd every other day with them so it will be good if fixed smiley comes soon just frustrating!! Especially as first time I've used any opks!!

StrawberryMojito Mon 10-Jun-13 20:21:26

Hiya, great news on your CD24 peak fertility sign BN, very costly though! If I don't get pregnant this month I'm going to buy some Internet cheapies next month now I've got a better idea of when I ovulate. I can't afford CB much longer.

Fingers crossed Bambi that you get your peak sign before the packet runs out. I'm in the 2ww now. I have a big week coming up socially - a wedding and 2 birthday functions...and we have a babysitter for all 3, I'm so excited, just typical that I have stay pretty much sober without even knowing whether there's a good reason to.

Bambi27 Mon 10-Jun-13 20:23:53

Thanks strawberrymoito!! I hope so to!! I know a lot of people would disagree but I don't think it would hurt to much if you want to drink? I thought that until about 4-5 weeks baby only feeds off sack thing not you so should be okay as a one off?? Xx

StrawberryMojito Mon 10-Jun-13 21:05:17

I think you're right and I do plan on having a the odd glass of wine, will just have to be a lot more restrained than I thought I would be for what is a big bday for DH.

We conceived DS accidentally/carelessly when we were on holiday. Not only did I drink plenty of vino, I was also on malaria tablets and had had a yellow fever vaccination before we went (you are advised not to get pg for 3 months after having it). When I found out I was pg, I was in a right panic about what harm I could have done. So I plan to be much more careful this time. I do, however, think that we could take ages to conceive and I can't put my life on hold completely.

Bambi27 Mon 10-Jun-13 21:15:32

Yeah it's depressing enough ttc sometimes without not having a glass of wine at weekends!!! Xx

StrawberryMojito Mon 10-Jun-13 21:20:06

Too bloody right!

Bambi27 Mon 10-Jun-13 21:31:25

Ha ha!!

BNmum Tue 11-Jun-13 07:46:47

Any change this morning bambi?

Sounds like you've got a lovely time ahead of you strawberry. I would also have a few drinks and enjoy yourself as much as possible.

Bambi27 Tue 11-Jun-13 08:08:51

Eugh just done it now and bloody flashing smiley! Starting to worry now as I only usually have a 28-39 day cycle so if I don't ovulate soon surely my luteal won't be long enough?? So frustrated!!

BNmum Tue 11-Jun-13 09:42:58

I had the same thoughts about my cycle bambi. It could be a long cycle this month, maybe your body delayed ovulating for be reason or another and everything will be delayed.

Bambi27 Tue 11-Jun-13 11:46:48

I rang the helpline this morning and she thinks I have already probably ovulated?? Told me to use last stick but not bother with anymore until next month! She said sometimes it can miss the surge...either that or not ovulated but probably won't! Brilliant!! So won't bother after tomorrow's!! Xx

BNmum Tue 11-Jun-13 13:56:15

That's really annoying bambi, I hope you get your peak tomorrow. What cd are you on now?

Bambi27 Tue 11-Jun-13 14:38:45

On day 16 now, lady thinks maybe I had a wee to late in the night and that made my wee not concentrated enough in morning so may have missed my surge! Very annoying as was doing the tests to see if and when I ovulate and none the wiser so will have to try again next month if I don't get my bfp!!

BNmum Tue 11-Jun-13 18:57:56

I totally understand your frustration and really feel for you bambi. There's still tomorrow wink. Do you think you dtd enough around your estimated ov dates just in case you did miss your surge?

I'm no expert but I'm really surprised that the helpline said you missed your surge as you are still getting high fertility. High fertility means that your oestrogen levels are high which is usually indicative of pre-ovulation, the oestrogen usually triggers an increase in LH which is when you get your peak (fixed smiley). Once you ovulate your oestrogen levels drop so why would they still be registering as high?

I asked myself this question everyday when the flashing smiley (high) greeted me and this was the reason why I continued to test even though I was still getting high on cd23. I only got my fixed on cd24 which I would never have guessed.

Bambi27 Tue 11-Jun-13 19:27:06

Not sure why they said it maybe because I said I had a 28/29 day cycle?? They said it was unlikely I was going to ov now and probably missed it due to having a wee in the night??!! I did wonder why it was still saying high?? We dtd 12, 14, 15. Planning on dtd again for next few days at least every other day. She just said it wasn't worth buying any more sticks this cycle sad seems like I've wasted a whole month!! Hoping we may have caught or will catch anyway...or even if I got my smiley tomo??!!

Bambi27 Tue 11-Jun-13 19:30:28

How long is your average cycle??

BNmum Tue 11-Jun-13 20:11:24

My last cycles have been 31, 33, 60, 32, 37, 32. If I discount the 60 then it averages out at 33 days so you can see why I would be worried about not ovulating until cd24. I thought I would continue testing just incase I ovulated late and I did, my apps said I would ovulate between cd16 and cd21.

Bambi27 Tue 11-Jun-13 20:23:05

Yeah so I couldn't ovulate that late as would be far to late for me!! However could do it tomo or next day and would still be okay but smiley face comes 12-24 hours before ovulation yes?? So already a few days later than I thought as thought I would actually ov sun and I did have backache and cm on sat/sun so thought that might be ov pains is that ov pains??

BNmum Tue 11-Jun-13 20:34:15

You may have already ovulated as I'm no expert but logic would suggest that you haven't yet so keep dtd every other day. You may ovulate later than expected or not at all this cycle. Fingers crossed you get your peak tomorrow as that would answer alot of these questions.

Bambi27 Tue 11-Jun-13 20:41:03

Yeah would be nice eh??!! I think it's a bit crap they told me I may have missed it as I have done their tests as they suggest!! Can't help needing a wee in the night!!!

BNmum Wed 12-Jun-13 07:50:43

Any news bambi?

Bambi27 Wed 12-Jun-13 08:11:13

Just done it...flashing smiley sad not going to buy anymore this cycle as seems pointless as I think the lady probably know something we don't (maybe that if you miss your peak it continues to flash as it confuses it!!!) so don't think there's much point will just buy a 20 pack if I need one next month just in case! Dtd again last night and will continue to until after weekend then will only be a week until due af so if I ovulated I would have done by then!! Keep me posted with your af/bfp!! And if I'm not pg by next cycle I will keep you posted with when I actually ov! Thanks for support!!

BNmum Wed 12-Jun-13 09:17:50

Boo! Another flashing! Well I think you are doing the right thing by dtd every other day just incase things are delayed. I've managed to dtd for the last 3 nights following my peak will hopefully have a night off then another bd for good luck - I'm knackered from it all. I'll keep you posted. Good luck! X

Bambi27 Wed 12-Jun-13 11:10:07

I know rubbish eh?! Was hoping it may turn but never mind if we dtd anyway won't really make a difference and will have to try again next month! Yes keep me informed when is your af due?

BNmum Wed 12-Jun-13 12:39:52

Af due anytime from 18/06 which is less than a week away. What about you?

Bambi27 Wed 12-Jun-13 12:42:59

Ohhh fingers crossed then!! Not long to wait until you find out if your efforts were worth it!! Af due 24th so week and a half to wait!! Xx

charleylarlie Wed 12-Jun-13 14:18:00

Just catching up with this thread. Had a busy few days so not been able to MN.

Great that you got your peak eventually, BNmum. When do you think you'll poas? My AF's not due for another fortnight yet (still a bit concerned that my ov seemed very early, but we shall see).

Sorry you've not had your peak smiley yet, Bambi. I would have thought though, that the flashing smiley would have disappeared if you'd past ov though. I wonder you've got a faulty CB digi? It's a bit annoying as they're expensive and meant to take the guess work out of ov, particularly if, like me, you're really not in touch with your body's signals. At least you've dtd plenty, so hopefully you've caught ov anyway.

It's all so uncertain, isn't it? We spend so much time trying to get the timing right and then so much time waiting and symptom watching. I'm trying not to pay any attention to any pg symptoms I may get over the next fortnight, as the other month I convinced myself that I had pretty much every one and was really shocked when bfn! I even managed to convince myself for a week afterwards that the test was wrong. blush

I've signed up with ovufriend too, in an attempt to try to chart my cycle better. If I get bfn this month I think I might buy a thermometer too. Yet another expense!

Bambi27 Wed 12-Jun-13 14:55:44

Hi Charlielarlie, yes very annoying...I sort of feel from the way the women said 'no don't buy any more sticks' she may have felt there was something wrong with machine or something as surely they're supposed to sell sell sell so buying more sticks would have been good for them??!! Ha ha! Never mind I will try again tracking ov next month and make sure I buy the 20 box and don't wee in the night! I have heard from other threads that if you get your high it will stay that way until you get your peak!not sure if that's true but would make sense in my case!! I think maybe you will get bfp/af early this month if you did ov that early? We shall see!!

BNmum Thu 13-Jun-13 13:44:23

Hi girls, to be honest if my luteal phase is about 1 week I can't see how I can get pregnant. If things are delayed and if af doesn't arrive on sun I'll POAS the following sunday 23/06 but I'm not holding out much hope.

Will you be testing around a similar time charley?

If you do get another box of the cb advance bambi check out amazon as I got a box of 20 for £22 which is a lot cheaper than the shops.

Bambi27 Thu 13-Jun-13 15:59:36

Yes bnmum I think I will! How long did they take to come?? X

BNmum Thu 13-Jun-13 16:07:59

I ordered on saturday and they were here on tuesday. I used the free delivery option.

Bambi27 Thu 13-Jun-13 16:10:12

Brilliant thanks bnmum!! Xx

charleylarlie Thu 13-Jun-13 20:24:04

Bambi and BNmum, am due AF on Wed 26th June, so will either test a few days before then if I get any symptoms, or on the day if I don't.

If not bfp this month will try once more with the cb sticks as can't really afford to do it every month. I'm trying to become more in touch with my body's signals but I've never been particularly sensitive to them.

Bambi27 Thu 13-Jun-13 20:38:15

Going to do exactly the same Charlielarlie to try to get more in touch with myself!! Hopefully we won't need to... I'm due af on 24th so will keep you updated!!! Make sure you do to!! Fingers crossed for bfp's all round!

StrawberryMojito Thu 13-Jun-13 20:44:57

Hi all. Am now 5 or 6 days post ovulation (i never get how people can be so precise) and am also adopting the same approach as Charley in that I am trying to ignore any supposed 'symptoms' as I have quickly worked out that all of the classic symptoms I get pre AF anyway.

I remember from being pregnant with DS that the only things that were really different in the pre bfp stage were implantation bleed, horrible migraine around the time of what must have been implantation and a funny smell made me want to gag. I haven't got any of those this time (though a little early) and I just feel like this is not the month. I will start testing next Wednesday anyway with Internet cheapies. I don't think I will buy a branded test unless I actually think I'm pregnant.

Charley I think I read that you can test from 14 dpo even if its earlier than your period is due.

StrawberryMojito Thu 13-Jun-13 20:46:36

X post Bambi. I'm due on 22nd so we will be testing around the same time. Fingers crossed!

Bambi27 Thu 13-Jun-13 22:01:41

Ah well still very early days strawberry moito so time for signs to come! With #1 only signs I had was cramps a few days before I got bfp, extremely sore nipples (cried when my hubby went by them whilst dtd (tmi!)) and a slight implantation bleed.

charleylarlie Fri 14-Jun-13 07:07:29

I haven't had any symptoms yet, either, but not entirely certain when I ovulated either - could be between last Thursday and Sunday - if the opks are correct. With DS I had implantation bleeding and tingly nipples, oh and oddly my eczema completely disappeared! Am trying not to notice anything unless it's staring me in the face though as I have an active imagination - the other month I even managed to convince myself I had a metallic taste in my mouth, amongst myriad other symptoms! Good luck ladies, let's keep each other posted! smile

Bambi27 Fri 14-Jun-13 08:06:57

Oh I know very easy to pretty much convince yourself you're six months gone!!

BNmum Fri 14-Jun-13 08:26:56

Haha! I know what you mean. Considering I'm also not very in tune with my body whilst ttc, during the 2ww I analyse every single twinge, feeling and imaginary symptom. This is only my official 2nd cycle ttc #2 sure I'm sure there's still time for me to turn into a total nutcase before long.

Wow! What a week it would be if we test on 22, 23, 24 and 26 and all got BFP! Fingers crossed!!

Bambi27 Fri 14-Jun-13 08:42:10

Well that would be super wouldn't it! Only tried for 2 months with #1 and on month 9 now with this one!! Hope I hurry up and catch soon!!! I'm definitely trying not to symptom watch but easier said than done!!!!!

Bambi27 Sat 15-Jun-13 09:02:10

Oh no I was trying not to think about it this month and not symptom watch....but had v bad backache in night and just woke up to v light spotting!!! Eekk making me get my hopes up! V similar to when pregnant with #1....trying not to think about it as af not due for another week!!!

Bambi27 Sat 15-Jun-13 09:24:05

Although I'd have had to have ov way earlier as its too early for this yes??? sad rubbish! Stop thinking!!

BNmum Sat 15-Jun-13 11:00:35

Not sure, I thought implantation bleeding would typically be 7-10 days after ovulation. I had a midcycle spotting/bleed this month and then ovulated (got peak fertility) 7 days after it started so if it doesn't turn into af continue to dtd.

Bambi27 Sat 15-Jun-13 11:33:34

Googled it...said on a few sites...if you have a typical 28 day cycle (which I do) you would typically get the spotting between day 20-24 o your cycle...today is my day 20...it's really getting my hopes up to much! Need to stop reading!!! Still dtd just on case but would have ovulated by now I'm sure!! X

charleylarlie Sat 15-Jun-13 14:01:41

Ooh, sounds promising Bambi! Fingers crossed for you. Let us know if you have any other symptoms.

charleylarlie Sat 15-Jun-13 14:21:11

Just thinking, Bambi, I had implantation bleeding with DS and it would have been around day 18-20 of a 29 day cycle so it does sound encouraging. wink

Bambi27 Sat 15-Jun-13 16:42:15

Ohhh fingers crossed then, was such a little amount literally twice when I wiped (tmi) had backache all night and day as well...probably not a sign! Probably slept funny! But can't help sign watch now!!

StrawberryMojito Sun 16-Jun-13 06:57:22

Fingers crossed Bambi!

Bambi27 Sun 16-Jun-13 09:27:30

It's doubtful was hardly anything!

Bambi27 Sun 16-Jun-13 09:27:43

....but thanks!!

BNmum Sun 16-Jun-13 11:42:13

Ooh! It does sound promising, fingers crossed! X

Bambi27 Sun 16-Jun-13 11:52:58

Thanks! X

Bambi27 Sun 16-Jun-13 16:07:04

Okay sorry if this is tmi but...quick question I'm pretty clueless to ov signs but read that after ov your not supposed to get much cm is this right?? Cus that doesn't seem to happen to me?? Well hasn't this month and first month I'm really looking!! So is it likely I haven't ov??

StrawberryMojito Sun 16-Jun-13 17:10:41

I think it varies person to person to be honest Bambi. I've read that lack of cm and plenty of cm can both be signs of pregnancy so basically try not to over analyse. Easier said than done I know.

BNmum Sun 16-Jun-13 18:47:11

I agree with strawberry it varies from person to person and also for the same person. Again, sorry if tmi but a couple of months ago I had noticeable stringy EWCM but I haven't noticed much cm at all the last 2cycles and definately not the EWCM kind. Like I said before I'm not very good at keeping in touch with my body though, that's why I opted for the ov sticks.

Bambi27 Sun 16-Jun-13 19:51:31

No me neither!! I just worried that having it meant it hasn't ovulated!! Thanks for the input!!

BNmum Mon 17-Jun-13 07:07:47

It is possible not to ovulate every cycle which is a pain when ttc but we'll both just have to try again next month if that's the case. Lets hope the witch stays away so we can get testing soon x

StrawberryMojito Mon 17-Jun-13 07:40:56

I've been bad...I tested this morning at 10 dpo and it was negative. I don't know what made me do it as I'm starting to feel crampy, a bit down and a bit bloated. All signs for me that af is on the way. Oh well...

Bambi27 Mon 17-Jun-13 08:05:46

Oh I've been stupid before and tested really early! Just remember it is really early and doesn't mean you're actually not pregnant! Wait a few days and test again! I'm going to test Friday I think... Will be a bit early but within 4 day clear blue window!

BNmum Mon 17-Jun-13 12:33:04

Don't lose hope strawberry, it's really early and like bambi said it doesn't mean anything. It's really hard to resist but give it a rest for a few days and try again.
I've also had the worst mood swings ever over the last few days and feeling like af is one her way, I don't know how to describe it other than feeling heavy and heated the precursor to the cramps and bloating.

Bambi27 Mon 17-Jun-13 14:47:13

Ah dont bnmum...I can't stop symptom spotting its awful!! Been feeling queasy all day but that's not usual for me! And tmi alert but got a really wet feeling down below! Does that make sense!!

charleylarlie Mon 17-Jun-13 19:12:42

I must stop thinking my boobs are tingling... it's probably all in my imagination. Again.

Bambi27 Mon 17-Jun-13 19:39:08

It's so annoying eh??!! I wish there was a way to forget you're ttc!! Xx

BNmum Mon 17-Jun-13 21:44:47

Had a random itchy nipple this evening but think af is getting closer as I'm starting to get cramps now sad

Bambi27 Mon 17-Jun-13 21:45:24

Ah bnmum it's not over until af rears her ugly head!! Fingers crossed for bfp x

StrawberryMojito Wed 19-Jun-13 11:03:55

Well AF has reared it's ugly head for me today...on CD24 which is a worryingly short cycle. Boo!

On a positive note, it's DHs birthday today, the weather is fab and we are going to a fancy hotel for the night so I'm off to have a few drinks in the sunshine. Hope you all have better results than me this month.

Bambi27 Wed 19-Jun-13 11:36:31

Oh rubbish! Well look on the bright side lots of yummy cocktails for you tonight!! Xx

BNmum Wed 19-Jun-13 11:54:51

Agh! Bollocks! Sorry to hear that strawberry. I hope you have a fantastic night away.

Nothing to report here. I'm showing PMT symptoms but af not turned up yet. I'm sure she's just around the corner though.

Bambi27 Wed 19-Jun-13 11:55:30

Tbh after my initial hopefulness that has now subsided and feel af will come for me 2 sad

charleylarlie Wed 19-Jun-13 13:38:31

Sorry to hear that, Strawberry. At least you can have a drink though. I also keep feeling like AF is on it's way too. Not due on until next week though, so I either have a frustrating week ahead, or it'll turn up early. I reckon it'll turn up early, just have a feeling. No other pg symptoms.

BNmum Wed 19-Jun-13 19:39:59

Hi strawberry, are you still bleeding? Just wondered if it was definately af? I had a look back at the thread and you started bleeding 10 days after ov, without getting our hopes up, are you sure it's definately not implantation bleeding? It does sound like a really short cycle, I thought you were usually 30days?

Nothing to report here, still feeling 'full and heavy' like af is just around the corner.

What's making you (bambi & charley) feel like af is just around the corner?

Bambi27 Wed 19-Jun-13 20:36:35

I also thought about an implantation bleed...but didn't want to get your hopes up!!

No idea, I did that early test and made me question all 'symptoms' I'd been feeling. Feeling like a bfp will never come!!!

charleylarlie Thu 20-Jun-13 07:11:28

Yes, don't rule out implantation bleeding, Strawberry.

I'm getting pre-menstrual cramps here, which is making me feel like AF is imminent. I know they can be symptomatic of pregnancy too, but don't want to get my hopes up.

Although, had bleeding gums last night, which I've discovered can also be an early symptom, but prob clutching at straws.

The tingling boobs haven't come to anything (pretty certain it was psychosomatic) but I just remember them being quite noticable with DS so was probably on the lookout.

Not to self: must stop symptom watching!

...But it's so hard, isn't it?

Bambi27 Thu 20-Jun-13 09:21:59

Bfn sad just did a first responses within time frame it says and got bfn...rubbish!! Me out for this month sad. Gutted!! Never mind always next month??? X

charleylarlie Thu 20-Jun-13 09:41:34

Aw, that sucks Bambi. But give it a couple of days and try again - just in case.

Bambi27 Thu 20-Jun-13 09:42:51

Tbh I believe the test, I think I'll just wait for af to arrive Monday now! To depressing!!

blueamber Thu 20-Jun-13 11:13:21

Bambi not everyone produces the same level of hcg, so some don't get a positive until later on. Perhaps wait for AF on Monday and if it doesn't show test again.

StrawberryMojito Thu 20-Jun-13 13:03:06

Hi guys, thanks for your responses and it did cross my mind that it could be implantation as it was quite slow starting but it is 100% definitely AF, it's quite heavy.

I'm a little concerned, my cycles used to be 29-30 days but in the past few months (since starting ttc-v annoying) they keep getting shorter and shorter. This cycle of 24 days was the shortest which means my luteal phase is only borderline normal now. Not sure what's going on, I'm 33 which I know isn't young but I would expect to have a few more baby making years left and my mum had me at 36. I'm considering acupuncture as I used it successfully before when I had really irregular periods and awful pmt and it worked v well.

Sorry about your BFN Bambi, but there may still be hope yet. Anyway, law of averages says that one of us out of you, me, Charley and BN should get a BFP, those bleeding gums are a good sign Charley!

BNmum Thu 20-Jun-13 13:45:54

Bugger! Sorry to hear that strawberry?

I agree with everyone else, it's still early days bambi

I've been trying to limit my time on here in the desperate hope it will stop me thinking about af, ttc, early testing etc - it's not working very well!

I have managed avoided early testing but that's only because I feel like it will be a waste of money, I'm convinced af is just around the corner.

Bambi27 Thu 20-Jun-13 17:51:30

I know it's not 100% but feel that it's very likely it would have shown as says I could have tested from yesterday?? So should have gone positive surely!! Xx

BNmum Thu 20-Jun-13 20:48:36

Not true bambi, some people don't show up that they're pregnant until a couple of weeks after af was due. I would forget about it for a few days then try again. Fingers crossed x

Bambi27 Thu 20-Jun-13 20:55:28

Thanks bnmum maybe there's hope, just thinking of 1st time showed up quite quickly! We shall see Monday I suppose!! Xx

BNmum Thu 20-Jun-13 21:06:58

Do you think you can hold out till Monday? I've gotta say you've got me wanting to test early now, thankfully I don't have any tests in the house.

Bambi27 Thu 20-Jun-13 21:15:56

God knows!! I have 3 tests so will be hard not to but seriously don't think this month will be my bfp now! X

charleylarlie Fri 21-Jun-13 16:17:19

Sorry to hear it's def AF, Strawberry sad

Do you think you'll do any more tests, Bambi or will you wait and see what happens? It aint over 'til it's over and AF rears her head, you know?

Have you managed to stay away from the tests, BNmum?

I haven’t had the bleeding gums again, but noticed the tiniest pink streak of blood when I wiped after going to the loo earlier (sorry if tmi). It wasn’t like the implantation bleeding I had with DS though (with him it was a browny red and there was a bit more of it). This was like a blob of cm (tbh looked quite like ewcm, but as am on day 24 of a 29 day cycle can’t imagine it is ovulation time, or if it is it won’t result in pg). I’m probably just over-scrutinising things now though and it’s probably something I wouldn’t notice if wasn’t ttc. Got that sick feeling in my stomach though that I get when AF is imminent, so maybe it was just the beginning of that coming early.

Tempted to do First Response test, but really trying to hold out until nearer ‘official’ AF day, which is Tuesday or Wednesday.

Bambi27 Fri 21-Jun-13 19:34:48

Poas today negative sad and af feels like she's just around the corner so think she's going to come before Monday!! sad never mind! Xx

BNmum Fri 21-Jun-13 21:17:31

Hi guys, just checking in to see how everyone is getting on. I've managed to stay away from the tests so far but think i'll buy a 2pack tomorrow to test on Sunday if af doesn't arrive beforehand. My 2yo has been really difficult over the last couple of days which has not helped my bad mood in the slightest and has almost made me question having another. I think I'm just being over sensitive and tired as af feels pretty imminent. I'll keep you posted.

Ps, bambi don't feel disheartened its still early days x

Bambi27 Fri 21-Jun-13 21:18:47

Don't know to me 8 months seems like an eternity!! I know it's not but its still difficult! Good luck bnmum!!

StrawberryMojito Sat 22-Jun-13 06:55:49

BN I know exactly what you mean. I had to make an emergency exit from soft play yesterday after DS had a full on meltdown because another child was playing with something he wanted. As I was carrying him screaming towards the exit I was thinking "could I actually cope with this and a hungry baby?!". The answer must have been yes though as I've ordered some cheap OPKs from Amazon for this month. Clearblue have already had £40 from me with no result so I'm saving my pennies. Good luck with the testing.

Bambi, don't get disheartened, it will happen.

charleylarlie Sat 22-Jun-13 08:50:13

Well, that's me out for this month too. AF arrived in full swing in the night. Four days early. sad

At least I know that the opks might have been accurate, detecting a peak on days 8-11 of a 25 day cycle. I'm going to carry on using the cb ones until they run out and then the cheap ones. I'm also going to buy a bbt thermometer this month, to be absolutely certain.

Oh, 2 year olds are so exhausting, aren't they? My ds is so busy and manic and LOUD at the mo.

So, it's all down to you now this month, Bnmum Really hope it's a bfp for you. I haven't lost faith that you might be lucky too, Bambi, but I'm def out with Strawberry now - here's to next month!

charleylarlie Sat 22-Jun-13 12:00:33

Just wanted to say, Strawberry that 24 days is within the normal range, so I don't think you've got anything to worry about.

I started charting my cycle on ovufriend last month (it's free), and I think it's helping me get more in touch with my body. You can also enter when you've tested opks and temps and when you've dtd and any symptoms you may get. It's just encouraging me to get a better picture of my own cycle and thought I'd mention it in case any of you guys might not have heard of it and think it useful.

I'm a bit disappointed at the mo, due to AF, but at least I have an excuse to eat chocolate (as if I needed one)! grin

BNmum Sat 22-Jun-13 12:05:06

Oh no! Sorry to hear that charley sad

I was referring to it being early days for the test not to show anything up bambi. I thought your af wasn't due for a couple of days yet so the chances of it showing up before your due date are pretty slim. It can happen but it doesn't mean that you're not pregnant just because it doesn't indicate a BFP early so dont rule this month out yet, there's only af that can do that for you! smile I can imagine its really difficult to wait a couple of extra days when you've already been waiting 8months though. Wishing you loads of luck!!

Right I'm off out to the shops......

BNmum Sun 23-Jun-13 08:07:29

Well today was test day and ....... BFN! So the waiting continues.....

Bambi27 Sun 23-Jun-13 09:18:16

Ah that sucks bnmum mum, when is af due? I'm out this month now af has arrived sad on to next cycle I suppose!!! X

charleylarlie Sun 23-Jun-13 10:14:45

Really sorry to here that, Bambi. sad

Maybe next month will be our lucky month? smile

Hang on in there, BNmum. It's not quite over yet.

Bambi27 Sun 23-Jun-13 10:32:33

Fingers crossed xx

BNmum Sun 23-Jun-13 10:54:40

I'm sorry to hear that too bambi sad

Today is cd38 and I think his would be 12-14dpo? I have been suffering from mild cramps for over a week now which I put down to af. If she is going to appear I'd rather it was sooner rather than later so I can get on with the next cycle!

StrawberryMojito Sun 23-Jun-13 19:12:52

Ah, that's a shame Bambi, lets hope we all have better luck next month. BN...maybe test again in a few days?

Thanks Charley, maybe a 24 day cycle isn't so bad, I just hope it doesn't get any shorter.

Bambi27 Mon 24-Jun-13 08:30:20

Ah thanks! Yes let's hope so smile xx

BNmum Mon 24-Jun-13 09:47:49

Yeah, I think I'll do that strawberry. I've been having some really bad pains on my side like stitch/ov pains for a couple of days and I had some clear cm yesterday so we dtd just incase I didn't ov earlier in my cycle. I took a cb digital ov test and it was -ve, i probably should have done one again this morning but I forgot.

Just not sure what the hell is going on.

charleylarlie Tue 25-Jun-13 06:40:46

Good idea to dtd just in case, Bnmum. Just a thought though - could the pains be implantation? Don't want to get your hopes up, but - you never know! wink

BNmum Tue 25-Jun-13 08:28:10

Tbh charley I've got no idea, I don't remember having any of this with #1. Still no af but ongoing pain/tenderness and a bfn on Sunday. Starting to wonder if I have a water infection?
I'm going to try and hold out doing another test until tomorrow morning.

charleylarlie Tue 25-Jun-13 09:08:22

Yes, maybe get it checked out if still bfn tomorrow, but don't rule pg out just yet.

I am now on cd5 of 4th month ttc. Started again with the cbd opks this morning - obvs a 'low fertile' sign being the first day of testing. Will start again with the cheap opks too and see what happens. Planning on dtd every other day from now on anyway.

Am also hoping that my bbt thermometer will arrive today. smile

Bambi27 Tue 25-Jun-13 09:54:33

Oh good luck ladies!! I've got to start testing sat, hoping that the sticks arrive before then! Bought 20 pack this time just in case!!! Xx

BNmum Tue 25-Jun-13 14:30:17

It will be interesting to see if they throw out similar readings to last month. Good luck!

charleylarlie Wed 26-Jun-13 07:04:25

Well, cd 6 and a flashing smiley! Only started testing last month on cd 7 though and got the fixed smiley on cd8, so we shall see if the same thing happens this month. My Babymad bbt thermometer arrived yesterday, so have started measuring that when I wake in the morning too. It was 36.31, so will have to keep an eye out for a spike over the coming week.

Bambi27 Wed 26-Jun-13 08:42:40

Ah that's good charley seems like you're following same pattern as last month, hoping you get your fixed smiley soon!!

Mine literally just arrived in the post smile so will start testing cd 7 (sat) as advised on website! Got 20 this time bnmum so let's hope I get my fixed smiley!! Xx

BNmum Wed 26-Jun-13 11:41:13

Good luck ladies! That sounds promising charley, hopefully your fixed will arrive for the weekend.

20 pack is the way to go bambi, especially when they're cheaper than a 10 pack. I'm pleased they're arrived on time too.

I did another hpt this morning and a bfn. Thought I'd use a cb digital OPK just to see as I have been having some cm and i got a smiley. It's not the advanced test just the ordinary digital one. We dtd on sun and I'll have to drag DH to bed at some point today too. Not sure what is going on exactly but I'll class this as a second surge and continue dtd.

charleylarlie Wed 26-Jun-13 12:04:02

Good luck, Bambi. Let's see what happens this month!

That's good, BNmum. Yes, def seize the moment. smile

Bambi27 Wed 26-Jun-13 12:23:55

Oh gosh bnmum how confusing !! Just dtd as much as you can and hope for the best!! Yes thanks for advice re tests!! Much better value!! Hoping for a fixed smiley this month!! Xx

charleylarlie Thu 27-Jun-13 09:47:01

CD6 and another flashing smiley (was cd5 yesterday - got that wrong). managed to drop the holder on the bathroom floor though, so hope is still working tomorrow - doh!

I got the 20 pack from Amazon, too Bambi. So much cheaper.

Hope you managed to dtd, BNmum. Will you do another test today?

Bambi27 Thu 27-Jun-13 09:55:25

Oh well better start dtd then!! Hopefully it will turn solid soon! How long are your cycles again? X

BNmum Thu 27-Jun-13 11:50:34

Hi all, i hope it still works charley!

I managed to dtd last night even though I was knackered. Did another digital ov test this morning and it was -ve so i hope we've caught it in time. Will try and dtd a few more times over the next few days too.

charleylarlie Thu 27-Jun-13 13:33:24

Yes, hopefully you've caught ov in time, BNmum.

Bambi, my cycles have generally been 28/29 days, although last one was 25 days (which could explain the early smiley face on day 8, and the positive cheap opk on day 10).

Am measuring bbtemp as well this month, but so far it's proving to be a bit of a hassle doing it first thing when I wake, esp with the cb digis. I seem to be adding a new thing each month we don't conceive. I dread to think what it'll be next month - saliva microscopes? No, must not succomb... confused

Bambi27 Thu 27-Jun-13 14:34:40

Oh so quite early to ov then. Maybe you will have a shorter cycle again then? Or an early bfp!! Xx

charleylarlie Fri 28-Jun-13 08:56:48

Yes, we shall see! Cd7 and day 3 of flashing smiley today.

Bambi27 Fri 28-Jun-13 09:25:59

Oh I hope it turns solid soon I'm dreading the stupid flashing smiley!!! I'm on cd6 and started testing today (a day earlier than it suggested) just so it can hopefully stable properly before smileys!! smile Got 20 pack so may as well I suppose!! Xx

BNmum Sat 29-Jun-13 07:19:18

Hi ladies, how are you getting on? Any fixed this morning charley? Is it cd7 or 8 for you today?

Any flashing bambi?

How are you strawberry? It's been awhile, has af buggered off yet?

Nothing to report here. Af still not arrived. Have managed to dtd 3 nights off the trot after my +ve OPK on wed. I suppose my (second) 2ww starts now. Fingers crossed!

charleylarlie Sat 29-Jun-13 08:54:11

Yes, fingers crossed BNmum! Let us know if you get any symptoms.

Hope you get a flashing smiley soon, Bambi. Hope you see a fixed smiley this month.

Yes, how are you doing, Strawberry?

I'm on cd8 and the 4th day of flashing smiley. Had a fixed one on this day last month, so we'll see what happens. I did test a little earlier this morning because DS decided to wake up and started talking to his cuddly toys, but still had a good four and a half hours between pees, so hopefully ok. Managed to get back to sleep afterwards too, so that's a bonus!

Bambi27 Sat 29-Jun-13 09:17:51

No flashing yet but only on cd 7 so didn't expect to yet! Hoping I get a fixed this month to!! Ah got fingers crossed for you bnmum must be frustrating!! Couldn't imagine 2 2ww back to back sad keep your chin up!!! Xx

charleylarlie Sun 30-Jun-13 06:54:56

Hmmm, cd8 and day 5 of flashing smiley. The second line seems to be getting thicker though. Hope it hurries up, if it is going to appear as have got my mum and dad visiting from Wednesday and dtd is going to be tricky.

Bambi27 Sun 30-Jun-13 08:45:46

Day 8 and first day of flashing smiley, earlier than I expected I wonder how many days of it I will have this time!! I hope yours turns solid soon!!!

charleylarlie Sun 30-Jun-13 08:52:15

Yay, you too! Fingers crossed we both get our peaks! smile

Bambi27 Sun 30-Jun-13 08:59:53

Yeah, I'm hoping that I don't now get a whole week of flashing (although I think that will be the case!!!) eugh! X

Bambi27 Sun 30-Jun-13 22:21:36

Eugh hubby is poorly do no dtd on first flashing smiley! They'll prob last forever anyway!!! X

charleylarlie Mon 01-Jul-13 09:05:50

Hope your dh feels better soon, Bambi. I'm now on cd 9 and day 6 of flashing smiley. They do seem to go on forever, don't they?

Hoping I ovulate soon though, esp if I have another 25 day cycle. Temp charting hasn't indicated ov yet though and I suppose it's a bit early yet if my cycle is back to normal (29 days) this month.

StrawberryMojito Mon 01-Jul-13 10:42:43

Hi all, I have myself a little bit of a break from thinking about baby making as it can take over a bit, but I'm back on board now! I spent Friday with 2 pregnant friends as much as I was happy for them, I was a little bit jealous aswell.

I gave up on the CB tests as they cost too much and just bought some Internet cheapie a that I am a bit sceptical about. I'm now on CD 13 which was ov day for me for the past couple of months but it is negative on these OPKs. To be honest though, it doesn't really matter this month as DH is away with work tonight and Wednesday so we dtd last night and can't do it again until Tuesday anyway. I've not got any ewcm either so maybe I'm going to ov later this month.

Hope it's all going well for all of you, let's hope you get your peaks soon Charley and Bambi. Good luck BN with the 2ww, keep us updated with any symptoms!

StrawberryMojito Mon 01-Jul-13 10:59:34

Sorry, loads of typos in that post, was doing a sneaky iPhone post while at work!

BNmum Mon 01-Jul-13 18:33:47

Fingers crossed for some fixed smiles soon ladies!

Welcome back strawberry! It's good to have a break from it every now and again as it certainly can take over your life and cause you one big headache from all the overthinking. I wouldn't worry about your hubby being away as they should still be some swimmers around and tues isn't too far away. Hopefully ov will be delayed until he gets back anyway.

Still no af here, no symptoms either but I think it would be way too early for that <wishful thinking>. I've got a super busy week so hopefully that will take my mind off it all for a few days.

charleylarlie Tue 02-Jul-13 07:14:11

Welcome back Strawberry. Prob good to have a break from all the ttc stress. Good luck with the cheap opks. I was worried that I never got a positive with them, and was convinced they didn't work, but then got a positive with them last month. I think they're ok once you get used to them, just that the surge doesn't show for as long as the CB ones.

BNmum, it's good that you're busy as I know that for me, symptom spotting is never a good thing as I get carried away. Fingers crossed you get a bfp this month.

Hope your hubby is feeling better, Bambi.

Cd10 for me and have got a fixed smiley - yay!! Am now worried that it was a false one though, as I accidentally held the holder upwards for a second straight after testing. Prob worrying for nothing though, as I suppose the timings fit anyway. Will dtd this evening, all being well! wink

BNmum Tue 02-Jul-13 11:16:10

whoop whoop! that's great news charley looks like you will have a busy few days ahead.

How long are your parents staying for? Will you be able to manage a few cheeky ones while they're visiting? It's never easy having house guests when you're at your most fertile, I wish lots of luck!

Have you got a positive yet strawberry?

How's the hubby bambi?

Bambi27 Tue 02-Jul-13 17:46:21

Sorry not posted for few days been busy looking after hubby! He seems on the mend now...thank god as we're on day 3 of flashing smiley and not dtd yet!! How's everyone??

StrawberryMojito Tue 02-Jul-13 19:32:00

Not even a hint of a positive on my cheap OPKs yet and I'm doing them at 6am and 5pm. I am starting to see signs of EWCM though so hopefully we'll be dtd for the next couple of days.

Glad your DH is getting better in time for a fixed smiley Bambi, he will need his strength!

Hope 2ww goes quickly for you BN, a busy week is a good one.

Bambi27 Tue 02-Jul-13 19:54:37

Hope you get a positive soon!! And bnmum definitely hoping your 2ww is a quick one!! Thanks will be jumping on him later!!!

Bambi27 Tue 02-Jul-13 22:02:23

Just dtd so feeling more on track ready for my fixed smiley grin fingers crossed!!!

Bambi27 Wed 03-Jul-13 08:14:15

Cd 11, 4th flashing smiley. Hoping for a fixed fri/sat however by then I will have had 5/6 flashing smiley days (at least) so really not sure how accurate the flashing days are?? Why do they flash so many days before you ovulate? Or am I missing something? shock

charleylarlie Wed 03-Jul-13 09:15:49

Fingers crossed, Bambi. Getting lots of flashing smileys seems to be more the norm than the two that they state on the packet. I think it was Strawberry who posted a link to a forum on the first page of this thread, which was v. interesting.

Strawberry, which opks are you using? Only the 'one step' ones that I have say that you need to test between 10am and 8pm - I think it's because the lh surge only appears throughout the day and then goes again. I'm not quite sure how the CB digis do it differently. I haven't had a positive result with the cheap ones yet this month either.

So, day 2 of fixed smiley and have some ewcm! Also, a slight temperature spike. Dtd last night and will try again tomorrow - a bit difficult with parents visiting! blush At least I won't have to sneak in and out of the bathroom with the stick though! grin

Hope the 2ww is going quickly, BNmum.

StrawberryMojito Wed 03-Jul-13 13:13:23

They are the One Step ones and I didn't know that Charley, I can't believe I didn't read the instructions properly! I've only tested during those times about 3 times. Duh.

We haven't had a great month for baby making anyway. I have no idea when or if I ovulated. During my predicted fertile window, we did it once on Sunday and were supposed to do it yesterday evening but then we both fell asleep early. I woke up in the early hours thinking "oh shit, we haven't had sex" but DH was snoring. Fortunately, DS woke at 3.30am and once we'd settled him, we managed a very sleepy quicky. I'm sure that happened last month aswell.

So basically we've only done it a maximum of 2 times at a useful time so I'm not holding out much hope for this month, especially as DH is away for work again tonight so no chance of a bonus dtd.

The CB ones are expensive but I did like how I felt very sure of where I was in my cycle. It's all blind guesswork without them.
Bambi, I think the flashing smileys indicate the rise in oestrogen you get as ov approaches, then fixed smileys indicate LH surge. After ov, progesterone starts rising which is what causes pmt and some preg symptoms. I am not definite about this though.

BNmum Thu 04-Jul-13 14:54:10

Hi ladies!
I'm please you've all managed to dtd lately (even if it was at 3.30am!).
Have you had a fixed yet bambi?

We've had numerous house guests over the last week so things have really slowed down for us. I've actually been thankful for the break as this cycle has been so long I'm exhausted from all the bding. DH has really suffered though, I hope he doesn't think it's always going to be like this!!

No symptoms of any kind for me, either pregnancy or af. Roll on this time next week when I can test!

Bambi27 Thu 04-Jul-13 21:25:26

Nope sad day 12 and fifth flashing smiley!! Hope it comes soon!!! I bet your other half is loving it bnmum!!

Bambi27 Thu 04-Jul-13 22:29:26

Dtd again tonight even tho husband is still pretty poorly!! Hard work this month!! How's everyone getting on?

charleylarlie Fri 05-Jul-13 07:16:20

Hope you see a peak soon, Bambi - it all counts, as the tests aren't always accurate anyway.

I think my dp feels the same as yours, BNmum. We dtd last night, but I don't think it was much fun for either of us as we were trying to be quiet. Having parents visit is def a passion killer!

You never know, Strawberry - you might just get lucky. If you managed to dtd in the week leading up to ov, there's always a chance!

I am on day 14 now, and we're going to give up bd-ing for the month now, I think. Will let you know if I get any obvious symptoms, but am trying to keep my wits about me this month. I expect I'll get carried away with wishful thinking though, as per usual.

Bambi27 Fri 05-Jul-13 09:13:09

Eugh another flashing smiley and I'm bleeding??? I used to get this spotting through the month but thought it had all calmed down sad - gutted sad

charleylarlie Fri 05-Jul-13 09:52:57

Could it be associated with ovulation, Bambi? It's not uncommon, I believe.

Bambi27 Fri 05-Jul-13 13:16:17

It's quite heavy?? No bloody idea!! Still continuing with ov sticks so we'll see!! Xx

BNmum Fri 05-Jul-13 16:51:26

Keep testing bambi! i had a mid cycle bleed which I thought was af (so was pretty heavy) and I got my fixed a couple of days later so I think it was either ovulation bleeding or cervical erosion from too much humping. Both of which don't affect your fertility, although it was a passion killer.

It might feel more like fun when the parentals return home charley

I'm feeling like crap today, no pregnancy symptoms, just a bloody cold! It's glorious sunshine outside and I'm snotting and coughing everywhere, great!

How's things with you strawberry?

Bambi27 Fri 05-Jul-13 19:52:56

Thanks bnmum!!! I will! It seems to have all stopped now so hoping you're right!! Going to keep testing and dtd! Didn't tell hubby until after dtd yesterday!! Oops wink x

Bambi27 Fri 05-Jul-13 19:53:26

Sorry you're feeling poorly bnmum!! Xx

BNmum Sat 06-Jul-13 19:10:11

No worries bambi, how's things with you today?

Bambi27 Sat 06-Jul-13 20:29:38

Bleeding again sad I hate ttc now!! Definitely going back to docs if no bfp this month! How's u?

BNmum Sun 07-Jul-13 08:33:01

Yeah, it's a good idea to let the docs know of your mid cycle bleeding especially if its a new development. My bleeds have lasted 3-5 days before, some heavy and some light. I made some changes to my diet in the latter half of this cycle and it seems to have helped.

I'm still feeling rubbish but at least it's taking my mind off the 2ww. Only a couple more days until test day if af doesn't arrive beforehand.

Bambi27 Sun 07-Jul-13 11:16:25

I have had it checked before (last October) and all was well and went away for a while bit looks to have come back so will keep an eye on it smile anyway....I had a fixed smiley this morning smile yah!!! So dtd straight away with excitement how many days should be continue to dtd for??

charleylarlie Sun 07-Jul-13 14:26:12

That's great, Bambi! Last month when I got mine we did it three days in a row, but I'm never sure if it's better to dtd every other day to give the sperm a chance to recover? We dtd every other day this month, but had parents visiting so had no choice. I'd def dtd today though if I was you! wink

Hope you're feeling better soon, BNmum. TTc is so stressful. I'm on 2ww now.

How are you doing, Strawberry? Any news? Did you have any luck with the cheapies?

BNmum Sun 07-Jul-13 15:41:24

Yay! Great news about the fixed smiley. Like charley we tried 3 days in a row, I had hoped to miss a day then dtd one more time for luck but I can't remember if we managed it.

blueamber Sun 07-Jul-13 16:00:54

Hope you don't mind me joining the conversation! Bambi, great new about your fixed smiley! Ov usually happens after 12-36 hours after, so if you feel up to it would recommend dtd today and tomorrow? I think it's now considered okay to dtd every day as it won't affect healhy sperm. It doesnt need to recover.

Can I ask you ladies about bleeding mid cycle? Im in my first cycle since stopping the pill, but it's been really long and I had a day of bleeding a few days after ov. Could this be cervical erosion? Should I get it checked out? I've just been worrying about it ever since. Still haven't had any AF yet since stopping either!

BNmum Sun 07-Jul-13 20:08:18

I'm not 100% sure blue but as its your first cycle off the pill I wouldn't worry about it too much and monitor things over the next couple of weeks. It could have been ovulation bleeding or just that your hormone levels are still out of sync. If it is ovulation bleeding or cervical erosion it doesn't affect your fertility at all.

However, if you're worried about it go to the docs and ask them about it. If it persists they'll want to make sure you have an update smear and do an sti test.

Are you still using OPKs?

Bambi27 Sun 07-Jul-13 20:09:23

Thanks ladies I dtd this morning and planning on dtd tonight, mon and tues miss wed then again thurs...bleeding permitted!! Seems to have all stopped again now!!

In regards to bleeding I had it bad after injection constantly having little bleeds. I was very naughty and didn't go doctors for months but always caused me worry! Finally went docs and they did an internal examination and bloods, nothing scary! All tests came back clear so yes if bleeding continues I would recommend a visit to docs! grin X

charleylarlie Sun 07-Jul-13 20:32:53

Sounds like you're in for a busy few days, Bambi - have fun! wink

Welcome Blueamber <waves>

Bambi27 Sun 07-Jul-13 20:45:36

Dtd in this weather isn't that much fun but never mind!!! Xx

blueamber Sun 07-Jul-13 21:42:05

Thanks, I feel less worried now. After much googling, I also read somewhere that after ov your hormonal levels could drop suddenly, which can cause some bleeding especially in longer cycles, so this ties in with what you're saying, bnmum.

And you're right, bambi, it's indeed better to see the gp instead of being worried.

I haven't got my AF yet, it almost been three weeks since I got all the signs of ov. I was thinking of starting opks this week again, just in case ov didn't happen and my body will try again soon. If nothing happens within the next week and a half or so, I'm definitely going to the GP!

It's not that hot up north. It's not often I can be pleased with the weather here grin

Bambi27 Sun 07-Jul-13 22:54:47

Glad you feel less worried! I would give it a couple cycles to settle down and see how it goes? Up2 u though!!

Dtd twice today!!! Fixed smiley got us excited!! Xx

3luckystars Sun 07-Jul-13 22:55:27

I used these "ADVANCED" OPKs this month. I am baffled. I got a flashing smiley for 6 days and on the 6th day it turned to a solid smiley.
However I am temping also and had a thermal shift on the second day of the flashing smiley.
So, in summary: I had a temp rise 4 days before the solid smiley was picked up.
I am very confused, I feel a bit pregnant and we only dtd the day of the first flashing smiley (6 days before LH surge). I am never buying these again. The old ones were easy, smiley or circle. Simple!

Bambi27 Sun 07-Jul-13 23:05:37

Lucky stars I suppose only af or bfp will explain if you we're right... I'm
Not temping so wouldn't know and only used these tests. 2nd month. 1st no fixed smiley at all just flashing...this is first month if fixed so I'm still excited that something's happening!! smile

3luckystars Sun 07-Jul-13 23:13:58

Thanks for the reply, the best of luck this month.
I'd be very interested in seeing someone temping and using these tests.

Bambi27 Sun 07-Jul-13 23:14:13

Were not we're!!!

Bambi27 Sun 07-Jul-13 23:15:13

Yes definitely me2!!! Hoping they work!!! Who knows!!! X

BNmum Mon 08-Jul-13 07:08:01

I'm afraid I'm not temping so can't comment on that either luckystars. When I used a cb normal digital OPK I got a +ve the day after my fixed smiley using the advanced ones, this seemed to correspond with what others have said so I do think that they give advanced warning that ovulation is expected to occur.

Have you used any other OPKs alongside your temping? Did you notice any chances in cm too?

Bambi27 Mon 08-Jul-13 08:25:52

I think overall they must work it they'd have been recalled surely?? How you feeling bnmum?

charleylarlie Mon 08-Jul-13 09:21:47

Luckystars, I'm on my first month of temping and also use opks. I noticed a rise a day or two after ov. I'm not sure how accurate temping is - would need to chart it over a few months I think. So many things can affect it. There are websites that can help you work it all out and give you a better idea, although they're only a guide also. I started entering my details onto ovufriend last month and find it useful if only to have a visual guide of my cycle. Good luck for bfp this month. smile

blueamber Mon 08-Jul-13 10:30:35

I used the advanced ones and am not temping, but on the day of my fixed smiley I got bad pains in my side, which is why I assumed ov was happening that day or the next. You can read the lines on the sticks as well, and saw a clear lh surge on the day of the fixed smiley. Ov takes place 12 - 36 hours after the lh surge.

I haven't tried temping, because it just seems so much hassle, as you have to take it immediately when waking up and before doing anything else or else it could be inaccurate. I would say the opk is more accurate than the temp, but you never know!

charleylarlie Mon 08-Jul-13 11:57:25

Yes, it's always worth looking at the lines when you remove the stick - I saw the second line get gradually thicker and then overtake the control line on fixed smiley day!

I'm not sure if it's possible to tell from temping when you're fertile - only after you've probably ovulated. Prob more useful for people trying not to have babies. Temping is bit of a pain tbh, esp with the opks as well.

businessadmin Mon 08-Jul-13 14:11:45

Hi ive been using the Clearblue dual hormone ovulation test in June cycle on,

Day14 -Flashing smiley

Day 15 & 16 - solid smiley

Now in July cycle on

Friday 5th July Day 11 - Flashing smiley

Saturday 6th July Day 12 - Flashing smiley

Sunday 7th July Day 13 - Flashing Smiley

Monday 8th July Day 14 - Flashing smiley.

But when i used Asda own brand ovulation test to-day the line was faint, i dont understand x

I got my IUI sperm put in Friday 5th July Day11.Do you think the pregnancy will work or is it too early.

blueamber Mon 08-Jul-13 14:27:03

It depends which opk you use. The advanced ones have one line for oestrogen and one for lh. The normal ones just have a control line and lh line.

business, sometimes you can get 4 - 4 flashing smileys before the fixed one. Hopefully you'll get it tomorrow. They say sperm can survive five days so fingers crossed for you.

The advanced ones measure both oestrogen and lh and can detect ov coming up, while the asda one will only do lh. Most likely when you get your fixed smiley the asda one should follow by giving you a strong line.

businessadmin Mon 08-Jul-13 14:40:39

Thank you smile . I hope so x

BNmum Mon 08-Jul-13 14:46:21

Hi guys, I'm feeling a lot better thanks. My cold seems to be going and we're off on our hols for a few days. just the thought of a few days away has picked me up no end smile

Welcome business, until you get your fixed smile it's difficult to say if the IUI sperm will be successful. As you've got a faint on the asda OPK, registering flashing smiley on cb and also looking at your last cycle history it looks like your fixed is just around the corner. If you get your fixed on cd15/16 like last month that would make it 4/5 days since IUI and like blue has already said sperm can live up to 5 days so you're still in with a chance. Good luck!!

businessadmin Mon 08-Jul-13 16:48:09

Thank you BNmum i really hoped it worked, i was going to wait until today or tomorrow to get IUI done,but when i received the Flashing smiley on friday, i got worried in case the solid smiley would happen on the weekend, when the clinic was closed. sad.

BNmum Mon 08-Jul-13 19:19:44

That must have been a really tricky decision to make business. fIngers crossed its successful!
Do you typically ovulation cd15/16 or was last month you first month of using OPKs? I'm afraid I don't know much about IUI, if you don't mind me asking how many attempts do you get? Sorry to bombard you with so many questions blush

StrawberryMojito Mon 08-Jul-13 19:33:11

Hi all, glad you finally got your fixed smiley Bambi. Apparently the heat can make you horny so that's good timing. I got a positive (I think) on my cheapie on Thursday afternoon...but we didn't dtd...gutted! DH had worked crazy hours all week and practically begged me not to make him have sex (not good for the ego!). So, all the pressure is on that Wednesday morning sex...we'll have to see in about 10 days time whether it did the trick, not particularly optimistic.

On the plus side, the weather is fab and we had a lovely weekend.

Hope things are going well with you Charley and BN. When can you test BN? Enjoy your holiday.

Bambi27 Mon 08-Jul-13 21:21:25

Thanks strawberry!! Fingers crossed for weds deed!! We dtd twice yesterday (first day of fixed smiley) and want to dtd tonight but hubby's already asleep on sofa but he's promised he'll wake up to do it in a bit!! Fingers crossed!! wink

Bambi27 Mon 08-Jul-13 22:10:06

Eugh gone to bed and husband is refusing to wake up saying he has a major headache confused I understand he hasn't been well but how long does dtd take?!!! So bloody frustrating! angryangryangryangry

charleylarlie Tue 09-Jul-13 07:19:37

Bambi, you're still in with a good chance! We didn't manage to dtd on our 2nd day this month due to parents visiting and went the day after instead. You never know! Man flu is so frustrating though.

Nice to hear from you Strawberry. Hopefully you dtd in the right window too. Like BNmum says sperm can live for a few days, esp round fertile time.

I bet you're looking forward to your hols BNmum - I'm jealous! envy grin

Nice to meet you businessadmin. Good luck for bfp this month. smile

I am around 6ish dpo now and will be trying not to spot symptoms from here on on!

BNmum Tue 09-Jul-13 09:51:33

Morning ladies! Almost wet myself laughing a your posts bambi, bloody men! Anyway, it sounds promising and you've got a couple more opportunities. Look on the +ve side, his little swimmers would have had chance to recharged their batteries last night so should be good to go today!

Fingers crossed for your Wednesday swimmers strawberry

I hope your 2ww goes quickly charley, when are you planning to test?

I had planned to test tomorrow but as we're off for a few days I may wait until the weekend when we're back home. I haven't bought any tests (didn't want to jinx anything) yet, i'll probably cave and test tomorrow as planned anyway. Just not sure if it will put a dampner on the hol if its a negative. I haven't had any symptoms so there's no reason for me to think otherwise.

BNmum Tue 09-Jul-13 09:52:35

Ooh! Forgot to say I'm signing out for a few days so have a lovely week in the sun and I look forward to catching up with all the gossip when I'm back grin

blueamber Tue 09-Jul-13 09:54:42

Enjoy your holiday bnmum!

Bambi27 Tue 09-Jul-13 12:13:22

Ha ha thanks bnmum!! Hopefully he'll be up2 it tonight wink hope you have a fab break and don't test!! Try to enjoy the time away and test when you get back (easier said than done!!!) x

Bambi27 Tue 09-Jul-13 12:14:10

And thanks charley...unfortunately not man flu he's had severe food poisoning for over a week sad rubbish!! Hope he gets better soon!!

charleylarlie Tue 09-Jul-13 12:19:12

Hope he feels better soon, Bambi! smile

businessadmin Tue 09-Jul-13 13:08:40

Hi bnmum yes it was a really tricky decision to make, im worried ive gone into soon instead of stickin to my guns of goin in today.

I normally ovulate around cd15/16. I only had one attempt of IUI, that why im worrying.

I done Cb with 8am morning urine and it was
Day 15 - Flashing smiley
Asda = Faint Line

I came home from shopping about 11am and did another
Asda =Darker line
Cb=Solid smiley

[smiley]

blueamber Tue 09-Jul-13 13:34:32

that's great news, business!

Bambi27 Tue 09-Jul-13 17:33:13

Fingers crossed for you business!! Xx

Bambi27 Tue 09-Jul-13 22:49:14

Need to vent...husband won't Dtd again tonight and to tired and still feels poorly sad it's so fustrating and just another month that will pass without a bfp sad just wish he'd suck it up and just do it tonight, it's depressing keep asking and getting a no! I get he's ill but I wish he could just understand a few days missed are v important was so excited for fixed smiley and now seems a complete waste...gutted sad

StrawberryMojito Wed 10-Jul-13 05:54:13

It's crap isn't it Bambi. My DH was the one who suggested trying for a second and has even told his friends we are. Most of the time he is really committed to the cause but last month he was ill during the fertile window and this month he had big work commitments so we haven't done it when we should have. It's so annoying when you have been using opks all month. I don't even blame him, it's just frustrating.

At least you won't have a stressful 2 week wait, it's quite relaxing letting it pass by unnoticed with no expectations.

Bambi27 Wed 10-Jul-13 08:34:51

Thanks strawberry! Like you have said I don't even really blame him but it is very frustrating! Like you say at least there is no 2ww this month! I shall make sure he's up2 full health for next month I suppose!!

charleylarlie Wed 10-Jul-13 09:36:54

Aw, that's rubbish Bambi. I know what you mean though - we weren't able to dtd on 2nd day of fixed smiley either. But you did on the first day, didn't you (or am I remembering it wrong?)? So you're still in with a chance. And you, Strawberry. Am not feeling like it will be our lucky month this month, but I suppose we've all got a small chance.

Bambi27 Wed 10-Jul-13 11:28:02

Thanks charley..yes we did do it on first day but not on 2nd or 3rd day after so feeling pretty out odds wise!! Xx

Bambi27 Sat 13-Jul-13 09:58:17

How's everyone getting on?

charleylarlie Sat 13-Jul-13 14:01:33

Hi Bambi, am around 8 or 9 dpo, keep thinking my boobs are tingling, but is prob just the heat! Haven't had much time to think about symptoms much as we've been busy sorting out 2 year old DS's bedroom in prep for the bars of his cotbed coming down. First night last night and we are all exhausted! Hope everybody else is doing well.

businessadmin Sat 13-Jul-13 15:15:21

Hi Bambi, i took preg test on yesterday, was negative, im getting too anxious. I think its because i keep feeling my stomache like achy & like bit tight. I dont understand, my discharge was like a drk browney colour.

charleylarlie Sat 13-Jul-13 16:31:06

When's AF due, Business? Could be implantation bleeding if it's still a little early? I had that when pg with DS - about a week before AF due, but can be anytime from 6-12 dpo I believe, so could be around the time of AF. Just a thought. wink

businessadmin Sat 13-Jul-13 17:47:18

hi charley I ovulation on 9th & 10th July, so AF due around about 23rd or 24th.

BNmum Sat 13-Jul-13 19:32:26

Hi ladies, I'm back grin. How's everyone doing?

I'm so pleased you got your fixed smiley on tues business. Fingers crossed for you! Try not to worry (easier said then done, I know) but like charley has said it could be implantation. There's not much point in testing before the 23/24 but if you do pleased don't get disheartened if you get a negative as it could just indicate that it's too early to show.

I hope the cotbed went well charley, my lo took to it straightaway but a couple of months later after a bout of chickenpox he just appeared by the side of the bed in the middle of the night. I would wake to find him staring at me a couple of inches away which would scare the life out of me. In the end I had to get a groclock which worked a treat.

StrawberryMojito Sat 13-Jul-13 21:07:26

Hi all. How was the trip BN? Aren't you able to test around now? Charley, I hope it all goes well with the cot Charley, we are going to try taking the sides off DSs cot around Autumn when he is 2, so if you have any tips let me know! How's it going with you Bambi?

I have nothing to report really. I found out another friend is pregnant this week but I'm really pleased for them as they have struggled for ages and this was their 2nd round of ivf. Good news for me is that my period hasn't arrived yet, I don't think for a minute I'm pg because our bd timing was out but last month I had a 24 day cycle which was really short, today was day 25 and no af so I'm back in the realms of normal again. I'm hoping to return to at least 27 day cycle.

businessadmin Sat 13-Jul-13 21:10:14

Hi BNmum welcome bk smile x Thank you x I just feel ive done the IUI too early instead of goin on the 9th / 10th July, like i was goin to do, esp when it cost money to do x

StrawberryMojito Sat 13-Jul-13 21:10:45

Btw Business admin, I agree it may be a little early for testing and implantation bleeding, good luck though!

Bambi27 Sat 13-Jul-13 22:07:09

Oh charley taking the sides off are a big step!! We did it when dd was about 2 and she was fine! She didn't seem to really realise! Has never climbed out of bed even though she gets in when she goes to bed and out when I go in in the morning!! Hope it goes smoothly for you!!

Admin I really, truly hope it's worked for you and it's just to early to test. Can I be naive and ask exactly what and why it is you're doing what you're doing I literally have no idea!

And Bnmum hope the holiday and break was fab? Tested yet?? Xxxxx

Bambi27 Sat 13-Jul-13 22:07:51

And strawberry, hope that you get your bfp and not af! Good sign that no af yet!!!! X

businessadmin Sat 13-Jul-13 22:14:54

bambi wat do u mean, [what and why it is you're doing what you're doing I literally have no idea!]

BNmum Sat 13-Jul-13 22:15:50

The trip was fabulous thanks, only a few nights away but it was lovely. This amazing weather certainly helped. I can test now strawberry, its cd51 for me and over 14days since my 2nd fixed smiley of the cycle. I think i'll get a test on Monday and see what it has to say, I haven't got any symptoms though so not expecting anything.

It sounds like it was a really tough decision to make Business and hindsight is a wonderful thing. It may have been too early but it may also have been the right timing. It's happened now and you cant change it so try and sit tight. We're all routing for you and wishing you the best flowers

BNmum Sat 13-Jul-13 22:18:54

Hi bambi, sorry i'm a slow typer and missed your posted. I hope all is good with you, what cd are you now?

Business, I think Bambi was trying to ask about IUI, how it works and why you have chosen/had to go down this route (correct me if i'm wrong bambi)

StrawberryMojito Sat 13-Jul-13 22:21:01

Business, I think Bambi is asking about the IUI stuff.

StrawberryMojito Sat 13-Jul-13 22:21:47

Oops cross post.

Bambi27 Sat 13-Jul-13 22:36:12

Yes that is what I was I was asking!! Sorry I'm rubbish I literally have no idea! I know I'm sure it's very dense and insensitive! But thought I better ask as don't feel I can support without knowing!!

Bnmum that sounds positive 14 days since fixed smiley and no af!! Fingers crossed!!! Xx

businessadmin Sat 13-Jul-13 22:40:08

Thanks BNmum thanks x

Bambi27 Sat 13-Jul-13 22:58:54

Sorry if I've offended you, it's absolutely fine if you don't want to say xxx

charleylarlie Sun 14-Jul-13 07:00:56

Glad you had a nice holiday, BNmum. Fingers crossed for monday. I think I can test next week too. - will leave it until Thurs to be on safe side as don't know exactly when ov.

Business - hope your wait isn't too long to find out if IUI worked. It's so hard, but like BNmum says, you've no way of knowing exactly. Fingers crossed for you though.

Strawberry, great that AF hasn't arrived, one way or another. If I think of any tips re the cot bars, I'll let you know. So far we've had to take all his books and clothes put of the room, as he went wild with the freedom! Last night a bit better, asleep at 8.15 after a mammoth empty drawer and cupboard opening sesh, fell out of bed at 3 and was up at 6.30, but seems to be lying on bed with a cuddly now! Thanks for the Groclock tip, BNmum.

No proper symptoms yet for me. I think the tingling boobs was all in my head as nothing yesterday.

BNmum Sun 14-Jul-13 13:25:53

Sounds like you've had a rough time of it charley, I forgot to mention that I put up a bed guard too. We still use this at home although he slept on bottom bunk fine on holiday. He is a wriggler though and it saves us all being woken up in the middle of the night.

Ooh! Fingers crossed for thurs too.

What pregnancy tests does everyone use?

Is everyone in the 2ww now? I've only been away a few days and already lost track of everyone's cycles!

StrawberryMojito Sun 14-Jul-13 18:36:06

I'm not in the 2ww unfortunately. My period started today, looks like my luteal phase is still a bit short. Fed up.

Genuinely good wishes for those testing this week though x.

BNmum Sun 14-Jul-13 19:07:45

That's pants, I'm really sorry to hear that strawberry.

How short does that make your luteal phase?

What's the plan for next cycle? Are you still going to use opks? SMEP? Just take it easy?

charleylarlie Sun 14-Jul-13 19:26:17

Really sorry to hear that, Strawberry. I haven't done much reading about luteal phases, so not sure how you go about trying to lengthen it. If it's only the last two cycles though, it may just be bad luck and they may go back to normal? Hope next month is better and you get more chances to dtd.

DS seems to be taking to the new sleeping arrangements thankfully, BNMum, though I suppose it's only day 3 yet. Am amazed that he only spent 20 mins opening cupboards before getting into bed and going to sleep!

I reckon AF will come early for me too. Don't know why, just a feeling. On cd 23 now, according to Ovufriend website so not long to wait. Last month's cycle was 25 days, though usually 29. Good luck testing tomorrow BNMum. Really hope you get a bfp.

StrawberryMojito Sun 14-Jul-13 19:52:33

Thanks guys. I think I will buy more CB sticks for this month and just try and do it regularly aswell. I have a commitment that means I'm away from home one night late next week so we'll just have to do our best.

From what I understand, luteal phases (post ovulation) that are under 10 days are problematic as not enough progesterone is around to maintain a pregnancy even if sperm meets egg. I think mine was 10 days this month so borderline.

Good luck tomorrow BN!

businessadmin Sun 14-Jul-13 20:26:59

Thanks charley x

Im on Cd 20, my cycles are irregular, one minute its 31 then 28, then last months was 30.

I BNmum using CB Pregnancy tests x

BNmum Sun 14-Jul-13 21:21:58

I looked into luteal phases briefly when I was having a few mid cycle bleeds. I rememember reading that your diet can affect things and if you have a short luteal phase try eating foods high in B vits (leafy green veg, marmite, shreddies and other cereals), avoid caffeine, increase intake of vit c and eat eggs.

I've cut out caffeine and tried to increase my vit c on top of my conception tablets and I've noticed the mid cycle spotting has stopped so may be worth trying.

I think there's also more extreme herbal supplements such as Angus castus but there's a lot of mixed reviews out there and probably worth taking some professional advice before dabbling in it.

businessadmin Sun 14-Jul-13 21:46:56

Do conception tablets help ? x

BNmum Sun 14-Jul-13 22:11:18

I took pregnacare conception tablets which include folic acid when I conceived my DS so i'm taking them again this time. I'll let you know tomorrow business when I test grin

businessadmin Sun 14-Jul-13 23:29:48

Ok BNmum thanks x smile

Bambi27 Mon 15-Jul-13 10:03:23

Today is cd 23 for me due af on Saturday, won't be testing this month as almost sure were out anyway so no point! Has been nice to have a month without the worry of the tww! Hadn't even thought about what cd it was until someone asked!!

Bnmum can't wait to hear results of your test!

Sorry af reared its ugly head! I also know nothing about luteal phases except 10 days is fine! Xx

businessadmin Mon 15-Jul-13 12:23:33

Wonder how BNmum gettin on with her testing smile x

blueamber Mon 15-Jul-13 13:32:45

Business, it's normal to have cycles that vary by a few days, so yours is fine! You asked about conception tablets, I think they are a good idea anyway. Gives you some vitamins that will help. Or at least it's important to take folic acid and vitamin d.

Bnmum sounds like you have a great diet. I cut out caffeine as well, well almost, I'm onto decaf tea and stopped drinking coffee. I didn't know how much caffeine was in black tea, how naive! Will not cut back on chocolate though!
Hope your testing went ok.

BNmum Mon 15-Jul-13 14:21:40

I'm feeling a little shock at the minute as just tested and I'm only up the frigging duff smile.

I got a clearblue test with indicator and it's saying 3+ weeks, I would have thought 2-3 at most so now I'm thinking how pregnant am I?

Hubby was suprised I was so shocked and I was suprised he expected it. I asked him how he was so sure and he said it was because I've now got a belly, but didn't want to say anything just in case. Bloody great, thanks darling for not telling me I was turning into a fatty! (Maybe this is my first symptom, moody cow/over sensitive). Had to have a brew to calm down so my no caffeine rule now out the window too!

Get on the conception tablets business!

blueamber Mon 15-Jul-13 14:31:28

Bnmum, congrats! That's great news.

I wouldn't be happy if my OH said something like that though, at least not for the first few months! smile

businessadmin Mon 15-Jul-13 14:51:48

Congrats BNmum x So is it about 16 days from ur fixed smileys [smiley] x

Did u ave a implantation bleed ? x

StrawberryMojito Mon 15-Jul-13 16:05:09

That's fab news BN, congratulations!!!!

Bambi27 Mon 15-Jul-13 16:23:20

Oh wow congrats Bnmum! That is brilliant news smile fab!!!

BNmum Mon 15-Jul-13 17:43:03

Thanks for all the congratulations guys! I still can't believe it to be honest, I've had to go and look at the test repeatedly this afternoon.

I'm cd60 today and I think it's about 20 days since my last fixed smiley (I'll have to double check this though). No implantation bleeding and no symptoms other than my new 'belly'

businessadmin Mon 15-Jul-13 18:08:35

Ur welcome Bnmum x

Can you still be pregnant without implantation bleed smile

BNmum Mon 15-Jul-13 18:41:13

Yeah, not everyone has implantation bleeding business. I did have some bleeding with my DS but that was more like 7-9 weeks.

charleylarlie Mon 15-Jul-13 18:58:25

Oh BNmum, that's fantastic news! I wonder whether it happened when you last thought you were ov-ing, or if you were already pg by then and it didn't show up on the test. Great news anyway! smile

Can't remember the exact statistics on implantation bleeding, Business, but I think it hapens in around 25-30% of pgs.

businessadmin Mon 15-Jul-13 19:57:38

Ok thanks charleylarlie smile

businessadmin Mon 15-Jul-13 20:08:47

When i had my son,(hes 7yr old now) i cant remember aving a implantation bleeding, i wrote down that, i only ad a little bleed when i was about 8wks x

I never found out i was pregnant until i was 4months gone x

BNmum Mon 15-Jul-13 22:16:55

Similar timing to me then business.

Thanks charley. Ive got no idea on the timing of things the very same question has been going through my mind all day. I'm guessing at this stage it was the second fixed smiley otherwise I wouldn't have had a couple of -ve OPKs before my second fixed would I? Am I right in thinking that OPKs can be used as an early pregnancy test?

charleylarlie Tue 16-Jul-13 11:40:31

Well that’s me out for the month. AF arrived earlier this morning on cd25. I was kind of expecting it as been having cramps, and my temp dipped quite a lot this morning, which I’ve read means that AF is on it’s way as too late for an implantation temp dip. Also, my temp hasn’t remained high, which apparently is another giveaway sign. Oh well, onwards and upwards for next month.

I think I'm going to have a large cup of coffee now - am only on 1 cup a day at the mo as trying to limit caffeine whilst ttc (plus choc, obviously!). Also, am going shopping in York tomorrow which will cheer me up no end. smile

I'm not sure about the opk thing, BNmum. I've heard that too though. I'll be interested to find out how far along you are when you go for your dating scan.

I'm so glad that one of us has finally got a bfp. Maybe it'll be catching?! Still got Bambi and Business still to test this month - here's hoping you two! wink

Bambi27 Tue 16-Jul-13 13:30:31

Ah that sucks...and thanks but I'm pretty sure I'm out this month as hardly Dtd but we shall see, af is due sat...enjoy your big coffee!! I'm soup dieting this week, great fun!! Xx

businessadmin Tue 16-Jul-13 14:05:55

I keep feeling weird sensations on my left side of my tummy x

StrawberryMojito Tue 16-Jul-13 19:04:42

That's a good sign Business, that's what I felt when newly pregnant with DS. Kind of like a tugging feeling.

Bambi27 Tue 16-Jul-13 19:10:31

Fingers crossed business! I hate the tww! Having no feelings this fortnight but not feeling hopeful! Pretty much waiting for af so we can straight again next month and hubby won't be poorly!! Xx

BNmum Tue 16-Jul-13 19:34:15

Boo! Sorry to hear that charley. Enjoy the brew!

Fingers crossed business, it does sound promising.

You never know bambi! don't give up until the ugly af witch rears her head.

Bambi27 Tue 16-Jul-13 20:11:59

To be honest it's been quite nice not to have an obsessive 2ww as its unlikely I will get my bfp so been much more relaxed!!! Xx

Bambi27 Tue 16-Jul-13 20:12:24

How you feeling Bnmum has it sunk in yet??!!

businessadmin Tue 16-Jul-13 20:13:13

Can i still pregnant, even tho pregnancy test are coming negative x

Bambi27 Tue 16-Jul-13 20:19:36

When's af due business?

businessadmin Tue 16-Jul-13 21:38:54

Around about 23 to 25th july x

blueamber Tue 16-Jul-13 21:49:35

You're testing very early, business! Earliest would be 4 days before your period, and going by your latest date this is 21 July. But it's better to wait till the day of your period. Even though it's difficult to wait so long, early testing can be inaccurate.

Bambi27 Tue 16-Jul-13 21:53:32

Of course you're not out then!! As blue amber has said you're testing far to early!! (I know how tempting it is and have been there!!) but it really wouldn't show up yet!! You can test 4 days before with the sensitive tests like super drug but as blue amber have said probably best just to wait as it may still be to early and until af shows up you will probably just keep testing anyway just in case! I really hope you get your bfp but try to wait to as close to longest period date as possible smile

businessadmin Tue 16-Jul-13 22:12:56

I know blueamber and * Bambi* it is tempting, esp wen i keep feeling weird things in my tummy x

Bambi27 Tue 16-Jul-13 22:18:27

Oh I completely understand! Last month I was convinced I was pregnant really did feel so many different signs including spotting which I never have had mid cycle other than when I was pg with dd1! I therefore tested very early and just kept telling myself it was to early but alas af reared her ugly head! sad so difficult! Can't offer any help really just feel for you! We're all in same boat, rubbish tww!!

businessadmin Tue 16-Jul-13 22:32:14

It ok Bambi , ill just ave to try and be patience and wait lol x smile

Bambi27 Tue 16-Jul-13 22:40:51

Definitely! And don't be disheartened by the bfn because it really isn't over until af comes especially if testing early smile

charleylarlie Wed 17-Jul-13 13:57:04

Sounds promising, Business. It's so hard waiting to test, isn't it?

Are you going to test this month, Bambi? Or will you just wait to see if AF rears her head? You are still in with a good chance, you know, as you did catch first fixed smiley!

I've had a nice morning clothes shopping complete with carrot cake and coffee. I also bought a book called 'Taking Charge of Your Fertility', which looks really interesting. Will let you know if I learn anything interesting! smile

BNmum Wed 17-Jul-13 14:55:55

Does lose heart business, like everyone has said it's really early. My cb test said it was only 55% accurate 4 days before af, this rises to 99% day af is due so it really is worth holding out.

Sounds like you've had a lovely morning charley, everyone raves about that book on here so it should be a good read.

Hope everyone else is having good day.

Bambi27 Wed 17-Jul-13 17:29:44

Thanks Charlie I know I'm not completely out but not feeling hopeful so don't think I will bother testing unless af doesn't turn up on sat! Glad you've had a nice day!!

businessadmin Wed 17-Jul-13 18:58:55

ty charley & BNmum, when do u think i should test x

BNmum Wed 17-Jul-13 19:27:22

I would try holding out until your af is due on the 25th. If you can't hold out and your test is -ve don't worry about it, just think it's too early to know for sure and try again a few days later.

Remember bambi you only need to do it once around the right time, which you did so fingers crossed.

We need everyone to get their BFPs so we can set up a smiley thread in pregnancy! wink

blueamber Wed 17-Jul-13 20:09:40

I got taking carge of your fertility from the library. There are a few interesting bits in and it's really detailed on charting, but I found it sometimes a bit chaotic and it's too long. It's not easy to just quickly find something you want to know. Also, the examples of the women in the book are sometimes really bad, I can't believe some are that out of touch with their body! Like one going for a colonoscopy as every month she would find mucus in her stool. Turned out it was ewcm, haha.

I also got the impatient woman's guide to getting pregnant and that was a good read. More up to date info, and more succinct. Makes you feel better about ttc when over 30 as well.

charleylarlie Thu 18-Jul-13 09:11:06

Yes, I see what you mean about some of the examples, Blueamber. Had a giggle at some of them! It is very detailed also, but will plough my way through. I wanted to have a look at the 'The Impatient Woman's Guide...', but they didn't have it. Will see if I can get it at the library.

A smiley thread in pregnancy would be fab, BNMum. smile

Bambi27 Thu 18-Jul-13 13:02:46

A smiley face pregnancy thread would be fab!! Xx

Bambi27 Thu 18-Jul-13 14:15:13

Even though I don't think I'm in this month so tempted to get a preggo test to do in the morning...feeling guilty if I have wine on Friday night without knowing for sure...hmmm!!!

Bambi27 Thu 18-Jul-13 16:50:40

Eugh I caved bfn as expected...

Bambi27 Thu 18-Jul-13 16:51:18

Eugh I caved bfn as expected...

BNmum Thu 18-Jul-13 17:02:33

It's still early days bambi, forget about it and test again on sat when af is due. Don't worry about having a drink on fri, even if you are pregnant there wouldn't be a placenta yet and the embryo will feed off its sac-thing <thinks of better way to explain, fails and only hopes that baby-brain hasn't set in already!>

If it makes you feel better I polished off a bottle of vintage rose champers with hubby will away on our hols last week blush

charleylarlie Thu 18-Jul-13 17:10:05

Don't get too disheartened, Bambi, like BNmum says, it's still early. And a couple of glasses of wine will do no harm. I'm now on cd3 and will start testing again soon. Have still got a few sticks left in my 20 pack, so hoping the holder's battery will stretch to a third month. Am too much of a cheapskate to purchase a new one!

businessadmin Thu 18-Jul-13 17:50:20

Gud luck bambi x

I think they shud sell the OPK sticks on there own, instead of aving to buy a new box and getting another holder charley.

charleylarlie Thu 18-Jul-13 19:34:33

Yes, I agree Business. It would make it soo much cheaper. There's such a price difference between the cb ones and the cheap ones as well, could do with something reliable but not as expensive. At this rate, I'd have been better off buying a fertility monitor instead. Hope you're okay anyway and the wait isn't too bad. Keep us posted with any other symptoms.

Will you wait until Saturday to test again, Bambi, or do you think you'll try again tomorrow?

StrawberryMojito Thu 18-Jul-13 20:27:20

Hi, hope you're all well and enjoying the hot weather. Sorry about the bfn Bambi, maybe try again at the weekend?
Have you learned any top tips in your fertility books Blueamber? I have been online researching and I spent £14 (!) in Holland and Barrett buying a vitamin B complex jar of vits (50mg) and agnus cactus as both are supposed to be good for fertility and lengthening the luteal phase. I am also going to be back using the cb OPKs this month but like Charley I will be using up left over sticks from my 2 previous packs. I think I have 6 in total so hopefully that will be enough, this baby making lark is expensive!

I have already told DH that we have planned dtd sessions on Sunday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Friday (I am away on Thursday) and possibly more depending on opk results. He's up for it but he's doing a triathlon on Sunday morning and will be knackered so I've bribed him with a takeaway, he's a cheap date.

How are you BN, feeling tired and sick yet? Any more symptoms Business?

Bambi27 Thu 18-Jul-13 20:30:19

No more testing for me! Not even a slight line so pretty sure I'm out now so will just wait for af! If she's not here by Sunday ill test! Never mind I have 10 sticks left so hoping they'll last me next month! Eugh another month ttc hmm never mind wine Tomo always look on the bright side!! gringringrin

businessadmin Thu 18-Jul-13 20:40:57

I agree charley with the fertility monitor lol x

Nope no more symptoms charley & strawberry x

Bambi27 Thu 18-Jul-13 20:44:57

You still have to buy the sticks for the monitors so not sure how much cheaper it works out??

BNmum Thu 18-Jul-13 20:55:16

haha! Brilliant strawberry, I love the way you are bribing your dh with a takeaway and he thinks that's a good deal! Sounds like you will be rattling with all the pills! I hope they work for you.

I think the sticks for the monitors are about the same price £1/stick, plus the cost of the monitor but I think they offer a bit more info by trying to predict your cycle. I haven't used one just going off info from a friend.

No real symptoms for me. I feel REALLY tired but I cant remember a time when I haven't (the joys of having a 2yo) felt this way and this heat is sooo draining.

blueamber Thu 18-Jul-13 21:09:55

Yes, strawberry, there was some good info in the books. In the Impatient Woman for instance she explained when to test. The average woman gets implementation at 9dpo, after which it takes 2-3 days to produce enough hcg to show in a test, so the earliest most women could test is 11-12 dpo. But for some it takes longer, for instance the day after AF was due. Still, it does not help that she is giving all these tips, but when your cycle just wont start like with me, then it's very frustrating. I'm not even getting the chance to become pregnant!

Anyways, Bambi, the Advanced OPK sticks on Amazon are 21 pounds for 20 sticks. The Fertility monitor sticks are 20 pounds for 20 sticks and then you got the cost of the monitor, about 25-35 pounds second hand on ebay. I got the monitor, but as my cycle has been insanely long and without an AF, I have switched over to the opks. They seem easier, as you can just use them when you want, but if your cycle is regular, the monitor predicts for you when you should use a stick. It will also be more sensitive to reading your hormones.

BNmum Fri 19-Jul-13 08:46:28

What a nightmare, have you been to see the doc blue? They may give you a progesterone pill to kickstart your cycle again, what cd are you now?

blueamber Fri 19-Jul-13 09:05:15

Thanks, BNmum, a nightmare indeed! It's cd80 or something today. This last week I have been getting signs of ov including ewcm for the sixth day now! Today and yesterday I got a flashing smiley on the OPK though. I am hoping that ov will finally happen this weekend. I am taking my BBT as well and hopefully I'll see a temp rise. But I don't feel the cycle is establshing itself on its own and might need that kickstart you mentioned. So if nothing happens this weekend I'm definitely seeing the doc this time!

BNmum Fri 19-Jul-13 09:17:26

Good idea blue, it sounds like it's showing signs of ovulation so give it a chance (it's Friday anyway) and if nothing happens go to the docs next week and see what they say. Keep us posted if you get a fixed

charleylarlie Fri 19-Jul-13 12:27:42

Good luck for the fixed smiley, Blueamber. Def see your Dr if no joy though. Hopefully you won't need to though - sounds like your body is gearing up to ov.

I never thought about having to buy sticks for the monitor too, so it prob is a lot cheaper with just the digi sticks! The sticks seem to work for me too, it's just that I always feel I ought to try something new each month of ttc.

Enjoy your wine Bambi!

Good luck with the vits, Strawberry, hope your cycle straightens itself out this month.

Bit worried that AF seems to have got lighter and lighter since we've been ttc. It's practically gone now and I only came on on late morning on Tuesday (was hardly any yesterday either). Keep telling myself to get a grip - am only 37 so v unlikely I'm starting the monopause!

Bambi27 Fri 19-Jul-13 13:51:57

Oh I really hope you get your fixed smiley soon!!

Any symptoms/af/bfp business? I have resisted testing today as not really feeling at all optimistic so will wait until Sunday if af doesn't show tomorrow!! Not looking forward to Dtd next month if it stays this hot!!! Ha ha!!

Bambi27 Fri 19-Jul-13 13:52:52

And charley I'm sure you are not hitting the menopause!!! Just probably paying lots of attention to af! Probably had always gone through cycles like this!! shock

businessadmin Fri 19-Jul-13 14:53:11

No Bambi.

Kind of the same symptom, weird sensations, but still another Negative test today.

Bambi27 Fri 19-Jul-13 20:10:02

Still early days business!! You hear of people not showing positive until after af is due!! Xx

charleylarlie Fri 19-Jul-13 20:17:48

I'm sure you're right re: menopause, Bambi. Tbh, I have spent the best part of 10 years on the pill/pg with ds that I can't really know what AF is really like. Am prob basing it all on what it was like in my teens and early twenties. Also, ttc makes us all more aware of our little worries that may have no basis in reality. Here's hoping you have an AF free weekend and you get a bfp!

I know it's tempting, Business, but it would be v. rare to get a bfp this early even if you are pg. It's a good sign that you're getting unusual symptoms though!

I'm going to start with the CB digis again on Sunday morning, which will be cd6.

Bambi27 Fri 19-Jul-13 20:39:00

Defiantly over analysing cycles, think we all do!!!

I hope I get a bfp to but I am having wine due to bfn yesterday! Will wait til Sunday to test! Will prob have af by then!!

I will use cb adv digital again if af rears ugly head!! Xx

BNmum Sat 20-Jul-13 07:57:01

Menopause! shock. charley I totally agree that we overanalyse our cycle/body when trying to conceive and worry about things that would normally pass us by unnoticed if we weren't POAS, pant diving and symptom spotting every month. Keep an eye on it and if you're still worried go see the docs, if only for the reassurance that all is well.

I hope af stays away for you bambi and business!

Any sign of a fixed blue?

How you getting on with the books strawberry?

BNmum Sat 20-Jul-13 08:00:50

Sorry meant to say......
How are you getting on with the books charley?

How's things with you strawbs?

Bambi27 Sat 20-Jul-13 08:40:33

Thanks Bnmum! Me2, not holding out much hope tho, she's due today so we shall see, will test tomorrow with fmu if she's not here by then!!

charleylarlie Sat 20-Jul-13 19:32:42

Hope AF is staying away, Bambi. Good luck with testing tomorrow!

I've got quite into the 'Take Charge of Your Fertility' book, BNmum as it has quite a lot about charting in. Am tempted by the 'Impatient Woman's Guide' now too. smile

Bambi27 Sat 20-Jul-13 20:37:54

No af but I caved and tested and bfn so not looking hopeful!!

Bambi27 Sat 20-Jul-13 20:38:08

Thanks tho!! X

StrawberryMojito Sat 20-Jul-13 20:46:04

Exciting Bambi...two bfps in one month would be great!

Nothing to report from me really, I'm going to start with the OPKs tomorrow morning which will be CD8 for me. I probably should have started today but I'm trying to conserve the sticks as I only have 6 and would rather not buy another pack. I'm taking my vits and have cut out alcohol, I'm not sure what else I can do (apart from have lots of sex this week obviously).

Charley...I think it was you who said you were temping? I bought a bbt thermometer last month but haven't used it as I read that you have to take your temp before you even get out of bed in the morning, but I wake when Ds wakes and cries for us (why can't he just call mummy-he always makes me jump a mile) and then I'm straight out of bed, I don't have time to hang around taking a temp. How are you managing with your LO. Would it matter if I did it once I had got him settled with his milk downstairs?

How are you BN? Has it sunk in yet? Have you told anyone other than DH?

StrawberryMojito Sat 20-Jul-13 20:49:37

Oh, the good news is that I no longer have an away from home commitment on Thursday night so have an extra window of opportunity.

Bambi27 Sat 20-Jul-13 21:01:43

Not really exciting as bfn on day af is due means I'm pretty much out so af would be quite welcome so I cans start next month!! Hey ho! Glad you can Dtd to your hearts content now!!

charleylarlie Sat 20-Jul-13 21:12:59

Strawberry, with the temping, you need to take it as soon as you wake, after three or more hours sleep, ideally before you've sat up. I tend to take mine if I wake in the early hours, between 5 and 6, write it down and then go back to sleep until DS gets out of bed and starts banging things. It's a bit of a pain, esp on the opk days too, but I did notice a leap after ov last month that stayed high for a few days (alas, didn't stay high though, as that can be a sign of pg).

Also, temping doesn't tell you before you ov, it only tells you when you've already ov'd, but may give you a more accurate indication of your luteal phase. You can also enter the details into websites like fertility friend or ovufriend and it will calculate it all for you. Hope that helps, any other questions let me know, or I can always look it up in my fertility book!

Fingers crossed for tomorrow, Bambi!

charleylarlie Sat 20-Jul-13 21:21:17

P.S. I am also starting to tomorrow with the opks, Strawberry. Will be cd6 for me. Going to start dtd tomorrow too to give us a good headstart! wink

StrawberryMojito Sun 21-Jul-13 05:32:16

Thanks Charley, I used an opk this morning which was negative as expected but we still plan to dtd as I read that it will make DH regenerate his sperm so all the good new stuff is ready for action on Tuesday when my fertile window should be open. I'll try temping but DS is waking at 5am at the moment and I rarely wake earlier. I'm not sure I can bring myself to set an alarm for it!

Bambi, good luck with the test. If it is bfn again, lets hope af comes quickly.

charleylarlie Sun 21-Jul-13 07:28:01

I don't blame you not wanting to temp earlier, Strawberry. Sleep is more important! Not sure if there is a way to do it later in the day. I'll have a look what the book says.

Cd6 for me and started testing. Like you I got a big fat circle for the first day.

Have you tested again, Bambi?

Any more symptoms, Business?

How are you feeling, BNmum? Got over the shock yet? Hope no sickness!

How are you, Blueamber?

Bambi27 Sun 21-Jul-13 17:29:09

Thanks guys! Still no af but I haven't tested today, didn't have any tests in the house. I bought some cheapy tesco ones whilst I was out so if af hasn't arrived by tomorrow I will test with fmu! As yesterday I didn't test with fmu and was a cheap test that said you can't test until day of missed period so may as well wait until morning now as will be more of a definite answer! How you guys all getting on? Any fixed smileys? Buisness any news? How you feeling Bnmum? Xx

Bambi27 Sun 21-Jul-13 18:57:15

Eugh the wait is killing me! I wish af would just hurry up (or better still I'd get a bfp tomorrow!!!)

BNmum Sun 21-Jul-13 20:30:51

I'm hoping you get the latter bambi wink

Hopefully there'll be some fixed smileys for charley and strawberry. Temping sounds like hard work which explains why I didn't bother with it. charley you sound very dedicated and organised!

Have you had your fixed smiley this weekend blue?

How's things business, have you tested?

I haven't told anyone in rl about the pregnancy, just the whole world via mumsnet! grin I was feeling like normal with no symptoms at all until this weekend and then boom the nausea hit with vengeance. I've been feeling rotten and it has been lasting all day, if anything it seems to get worse in the evenings! This has come as a huge surprise as I didn't suffer any sickness with #1. I'm hoping its short lived!

Bambi27 Sun 21-Jul-13 20:43:27

Ah thanks Bnmum me to! I literally have no signs of af and been feeling grotty all day with sore boobs but I'm sure she'll rear her ugly head over night!!

That sucks that you're not feeling well sad hopefully its disappears soon! Only positive way to look at it is that nausea is normally a sign of a healthy pregnancy they say!!! X

businessadmin Sun 21-Jul-13 23:35:31

No more symptoms charley.

I tested Saturday BNmum, still BFN sad.

I was suppose to test to-day, but tested saturday instead, im not gona bother testing now, just see if AF appears. I really think im out of seeing a BFP sad

businessadmin Sun 21-Jul-13 23:44:15

I ad a little dots of red on the toilet tissue on wednesday,

I dont think they were already there!

It could be nowt confused.

Bambi27 Mon 22-Jul-13 07:54:31

Just done test and bfn sad still no af either! Oh gosh so annoying!!

Bambi27 Mon 22-Jul-13 07:54:56

Business hope af or bfp turns up for you soon! So horrible waiting!!

charleylarlie Mon 22-Jul-13 09:25:45

Bambi, it's awful waiting, hope you find out soon.

Business, it could be implantation bleeding, you never know! I had it when I was pg with DS, about a week before AF was due.

Well, I got another empty circle when I used cb digi this morning. I don't know why but feel a bit miffed. It's only cd7 so am prob getting ahead of myself, although last month was already on flashing smileys and the month before got fixed on cd8. Started dtd last night just to be on the safe side, but will prob leave it a few days now.

Bambi27 Mon 22-Jul-13 11:23:38

Thanks charley! I hope so to! Not holding out any hope for bfp now but really want af to hurry up!! I've got a wedding sat and would rather not be in full af swing!! At least I can drink I suppose!! Every cloud... Business I agree could be implantation, I had that with first around time af was due! Fingers crossed xx

Bambi27 Mon 22-Jul-13 11:25:20

Also early days for a smiley so don't give up hope!! I'm sure it will be blinking at you Tomo and fixed soon!! Xx

charleylarlie Mon 22-Jul-13 11:57:47

Thanks Bambi, I'm sure you're right.

Morning sickness is pants, BNmum. I had it from about weeks 7 with DS and for a few weeks I could only eat Pot Noodles and drink Lucozade! Hope it passes soon. X

blueamber Mon 22-Jul-13 12:36:56

Bambi, hope you find out soon what's happening, hopefully through a bfp.

Charley, hope you get your blinkies soon!

BNmum, hope the sickness doesn't get too bad.

I am still getting blinkies, six days or something in a row. Went to see the GP this morning and got the old 'it can take six months or more for your cycles to re-establish themselves after the pill; come back in a few months'. Noooooo! sad

When I asked about progesterone to kickstart my cycles he said he had never prescribed it himself, I would have to be referred to hospital and he thought by the time I got seen I would have had my period. Wishful thinking!

I feel so frustrated, now I have to wait and wait even more and every week I get more and more upset. I just have to hold faith that my body will be okay and there isn't an underlying problem.

The GP even asked: 'Are you in a hurry?'. I am sure every woman who starts ttc is in a hurry!

BNmum Mon 22-Jul-13 14:18:07

Hi ladies,

Here's hoping there's some bfp's on their way business and bambi.

All I can think about is ice cold lucozade charley, I could just stick my head in a bucket load of it, Slurp!
I'm sure the flashing and solid aren't too far away.

Sorry to here that you haven't got your solid this weekend blue and that you saw an insensitive Dr. There's a big difference between getting impatient because you haven't conceived and getting impatient because your body isn't giving you the chance to conceive! I would always get frustrated comparing myself to others who had a regular cycle and thinking bloody useless body is only giving me half the chances of everyone else. All I would say is remember that flashing smileys indicate pre-ovulation so you havent missed your opportunity, keep testing and remember I had almost 20 days worth of flashies before I ovulated and conceived.

blueamber Mon 22-Jul-13 15:34:42

I didn't know you got 20 days of flashing smileys! That gives me some hope, although I might have to put a new order for sticks in smile.

Hopefully I will eventually get that steady smile, and then actually ovulate this time. Last time I went from low to peak, but didn't actually ov. I have started taking my temperature, so that should tell me if ov happened the day after.

BNmum Mon 22-Jul-13 16:23:27

I've exaggerated a bit (but not much) and it was stop-start as I didn't know what was going on. I started testing cd8 (as cycle is irregular) and only got fixed smiley on cd24, i then stopped opks for 2 weeks and waited for af. When af didn't arrive and got a -ve hpt I started with the opks again on cd38 and got my 2nd fixed on cd41. If I wasn't using opks I wouldn't have had a clue what the hell was going on!

businessadmin Mon 22-Jul-13 18:40:47

Ty charley, bambi & BNmum smile.

I was going to order CB digital ovulation, but they were out of stock.

Im not buying the CB digital ovulation test with dual hormone indicator no more.

So anyway ive ordered the CB ovulation test.

BNmum Mon 22-Jul-13 19:30:08

Hi business did af arrive or are you just forward planning?

StrawberryMojito Mon 22-Jul-13 20:02:27

Any news Bambi?

BN I remember those early days of nausea. All I could stomach was salty food-ready salted crisps and bacon sandwiches, I rarely eat bacon when not pregnant.

Could you give it another month or so and then see a different GP Blue? They may be more sympathetic, maybe a female one. I would have expected him to test your hormone levels at least.

Charley it's CD9 for me and I got a negative opk again this morning. We also dtd last night and we plan to do it every other night until we get a positive and then we'll really go for it! Like you I also felt a bit disappointed as I have had a flashing smiley by now when I have used them before. It never worked on those months though so maybe this one will be different...

Business have you tested again?

Bambi27 Mon 22-Jul-13 20:16:45

Still no af and two different brand tests came back negative today. Doesn't feel like af is on her way, maybe it was that bleed around time of ov that has thrown af? No idea!! We didn't Dtd much after so don't think I can be pg just a screwed up af?!!

Also blue I meant to say I had funny periods after coming off injection (and during) came off it about two years ago now. (Wasn't ttc using condoms) last October I went for tests to check why they were all over the place because ttc. They checked my blood and did an internal. All fine. Anyway they said I could go back within six months if we hadn't conceived but periods went black to normal pretty soon after so haven't gone back yet, waiting for a year and doing a few months opks so I can give them more details. Hope that's helpful?? confused

blueamber Mon 22-Jul-13 21:18:33

Thanks all, I think I will leave it for a couple of months and then go back. There are no female GPs in my surgery and the one I saw usually is the best one, so I'll do as I'm told for now...

Bambi27 Mon 22-Jul-13 21:20:41

I think they'd have said same to me I went in before a year. sad frustrating but nothing you can do as they're probably right and body needs to readjust after pill xx

businessadmin Tue 23-Jul-13 00:57:06

Hi

BNmum , nope AF hasnt arrived yet, so just bought more OPK.

Strawberry nope i avent tested again, just wait & see if AF appears!

smile

StrawberryMojito Tue 23-Jul-13 05:15:42

The good news for me is that I got a flashing smiley today, CD10.
Bad news is thunder woke DS up at 4.30am, he wouldn't resettle and we've been up since then. Fun.

charleylarlie Tue 23-Jul-13 07:14:20

Good news re: the flashing smiley, Strawberry. I got one this morning too on cd8! We had v. loud thunder too, which woke DS (and me) but it was around midnight, so normal service resumed after. Was bloody loud though.

Hope you find out either way soon, Bambi - there's still a chance. I'm not sure how long you have to wait for a blood test if AF doesn't show, but at least that would be more likely to give you an accurate answer?

Def go back in a couple of months if cycle hasn't settled, Blueamber.

Still fingers crossed, Business.

Keep drinking that Lucozade, BNmum, esp in this weather (although it appears to raining over here, hope it brightens up again later).

StrawberryMojito Tue 23-Jul-13 09:13:32

Yay Charlie, looks like we have a busy few days ahead!

charleylarlie Tue 23-Jul-13 09:39:55

Yep, will def dtd today! grin

Bambi27 Tue 23-Jul-13 13:22:35

Just to keep you updated still no af and bfn again today! So frustrating!! Hope you're both enjoying Dtd!! Xx

StrawberryMojito Tue 23-Jul-13 17:43:50

That's a pain Bambi. How many days is it since you last dtd, is it possible you ovulated later than you thought?

businessadmin Tue 23-Jul-13 18:28:12

Same here Bambi BFN again to-day sad x

Bambi27 Tue 23-Jul-13 18:55:18

Rubbish business! When are/were you due?

Well we Dtd twice the day I got a fixed smiley and then nothing after as hubby was poorly so don't think that's an option but sperm can last 5 days or something can't they so I suppose it could...god I don't know!!!

BNmum Tue 23-Jul-13 19:33:39

Hi ladies, I'm also walking round looking like a zombie after being woken at 4am with thunder and lightening - it was like a strobe light was set up in the bedroom, unbelievable!

I'm pleased to hear some flashing smileys have appeared for you strawberry and charley.

Sorry to hear about the bfn's for business and bambi. I'm looking on the positive side for you both and thinking no af, therefore still a strong possibility of some BFPs to come! Fingers crossed. Have either of you got any symptoms?

Any sign of your fixed blue?

Bambi27 Tue 23-Jul-13 19:45:15

Oh rubbish Bnmum! Hope you sleep better tonight! No no symptoms, boobs have been hurting but i did last month to! Also been having on and off tummy pains but again nothing major! Equally no signs of af...very strange and longer cycle I've had is 29 days but normally 28 and last few cycles have been 27!! X

StrawberryMojito Wed 24-Jul-13 10:27:37

What are you testing with Bambi? Maybe try a CB digital in a couple of days of still no sign of AF.

I got another flashing smiley again this morning as expected. We dtd last night but I'm in two minds as whether to do it daily or whether to do it every other day until fixed smiley. I don't want to wear out DH but then I don't want to waste an opportunity! I'm CD 11 now. What did you do BN? What are you planning on doing Charley?

Bambi27 Wed 24-Jul-13 11:23:54

Hi strawberry was using superdrug/tesco. No af today so went and bought a cb digital and bfn! Eugh! Wasn't fmu but collected wee and was v dark so pretty concentrated! Pretty sure I'm not pg now!! Will test again Friday morning with other stick if af hasn't come so I can drink at wedding without worrying!! confusedconfusedconfusedconfusedHurry up af!!

blueamber Wed 24-Jul-13 11:44:55

BNmum, the thunder and lightning woke me as well, but oddly enough it never rained! And the garden could definitely use some.

Strawb, if you dtd every other day you won't miss your opportunity! If you have ewcm sperm will survive for at least three days.

Mambi, not nice being in limbo!! Hope you get an answer soon.

I have now booked a fertility reflexology appointment. My dad is a reflexologist and I remember being ill once when I was younger and feeling a lot better after having him doing reflexology on me. But he lives too far away, so I'm having it done somewhere else. I am hoping they might wake up my ovaries smile. I decided I can't wait another two months for my period after having a little break down yesterday, so it better work!

I toyed with the idea of telling him we're ttc and my cycle isn't coming back yet so he can give me advice, but I don't really feel comfortable telling anyone... has anyone told their family about ttc?

StrawberryMojito Wed 24-Jul-13 12:54:01

Hi Blue, I don't blame you trying the reflexology, I have thought about acupuncture if my cycles don't get a bit longer as I found it massively helped with another problem a few years ago. It's the price that puts me off at the moment. If you are close to your dad, I think it would be worth telling him. I have told my mum but I then told her not to ask me about it unless I mentioned it first. A couple of my pg friends also know but they don't really bring it up.

Sorry about the bfn Bambi. Hurry up Bambi's AF!!

BNmum Wed 24-Jul-13 14:15:39

Poor you bambi! I really feel for you, it's a nightmare not knowing what is going on. I hope you get some answers soon!

Hi strawbs, i agree with blue. I would continue dtd every other day (but if the mood takes you, don't let 'the plan' stop you) then when you get your fixed dtd 3 nights off the trot then have a rest day then dtd once more for luck. This worked for us. Remember that these adv OPK are super sensitive so you shouldn't miss your window especially as sperm can live a few days. When I got my fixed with the adv ones I didn't get a smiley until 24hrs after with normal cb digital.

Fertility reflexology sounds exciting blue, what exactly does it involve? I think it's got to be worth a shot, do you have long to wait until your appointment? I'm guessing still no sign of your fixed then?

I've only spoken to 1 friend about ttc as she told me she was ttc too, unfortunately she had a miscarriage sad.

How's things charley and business?

I went to see the docs this morning. Given the date of my last true af they've estimated my due date as 22/02/14 even though I suspect it will be more likely to be March.

blueamber Wed 24-Jul-13 18:06:04

Nope, have not had a fixed smiley. Even worse, the OPK has given up on me. Put the stick in the clearblue advanced reader thingy and it indicated it was starting a new cycle. So got a circle. But when I read the lines it did look like oestrogen was higher and LH slightly higher as well. I am comparing it to my 79 or something other used sticks in my drawer, lol.

Reflexology is where they put pressure on certain parts of your feet in order to stimulate other parts of your body. They will probably put pressure on the ovary and cervix bit and will also see if there are any parts that are sensitive. I'm thinking if it doesn't actually work at least I will have some time being relatively relaxed and having my feet rubbed. I'm going on Saturday.

BNmum, your due date seems very early and inaccurate. Are they actually going to scan you to find out your date or will they wait until 12 weeks for that? If they base that on you last AF it will be pretty soon as well. At least you know yourself when the DD will be, based on your ov.

charleylarlie Wed 24-Jul-13 19:13:43

Good idea re: the reflexology Blueamber. Nice and relaxing and it's doing something healthy and positive and might be just what you need.

I've told a couple of NCT mum friends that we are ttc, because it's a subject that comes up so often. I haven't told anybody else though. I told a couple of close friends when we were ttc ds though. I haven't told my family and didn't last time, but we don't live anywhere near them. I think I would consider it though if we lived nearer as there are only so many times I can turn down coffee etc. So, I suppose it depends how close you are to your dad, Blue. If you have a good relationship and you think he might be able to help (and won't worry too much on your behalf) then do it. It's a bummer re: the opk, so annoying. Good job you kept your old sticks!

Another flashing smiley for me too today, Strawberry. Let's hope we see our fixed ones soon.

Hope you don't have to wait too much longer, Bambi and Business.

I'd go with your dates, too, BNmum, you know your body better than the dr.

Bambi27 Wed 24-Jul-13 20:20:37

Hey thanks guys!! I've given up on thinking I'm pregnant as way to much past ov and Dtd not to show now!! So just a waiting game for af!! I've even allowed myself wine tonight and a takeaway as a little treat!! Feeling much better about it!! At least I'm almost at a year of ttc since visiting docs so can go back soon!

I have told about 5 friends were ttc. They don't ask about it unless I talk about it, they're quite sensitive to not asking 'are you pregnant yet' which they did in early days!! I find it helpful taking about it when I need to! Also will want help with daughter when I finally get pregnant if I get morning sickness so think I may as well have a support network!

Rubbish about opks starting again! Ring up maybe they will send you another box for free?? Hoping they still go fixed for you!!

Bnmum at least you will get an early scan if you're right!!

Tea1Sugar Thu 25-Jul-13 06:06:19

Hi I've been recommended this thread so may I join? grin I'm
Ttc no 2 cycle 2 off the pill. My period returned quickly after 25 days and now in the second cycle I've had flashing smilies days 7 and 8 which seems very early. Has anyone had several days of them before peak?

blueamber Thu 25-Jul-13 07:56:17

Hi tea, we meet again smile. Are you using the advanced opk rather than the monitor? Even though the opk says they give you two days of flashing smilies, it could actually last 4-5 days. Or even longer in my case, but that's only because my cycle hasn't established itself yet after the pill, unlike yours. But if your cycle stays at 25 days, then having a fixed earlier on fits with that.

Well I still didn't get my fixed smiley, but that's because the stupid opk took yesterday as the base line when levels were already elevated. I just checked the lines and they are similar to when I got a fixed last month. So I consider it as a fixed! Yay! Now I hope that this time it will actually result in ov, so fingers crossed for a temp rise in the next few days.

I am knackered today though! My oh made me 2 cups of tea yesterday, but he gave me regular tea, whilst I have been on decaf for 3 months now. I must have become sensitive to caffeine, because I couldn't sleep last night! Was lying there awake for hours listening to my oh happily sleeping...

blueamber Thu 25-Jul-13 08:04:37

Oh and thanks for all your experiences with telling others about ttc. I'm not super close to my dad, I don't usually share personal things with him expect illnesses or something, but my brother has always told us when they are ttc. I guess it's different for the woman though, it's a lot more emotional and personal perhaps. I think I'll not tell him for now.

Tea1Sugar Thu 25-Jul-13 08:47:06

Hi blue grin Ah cool thanks, well I'll hope for a fixed on sunday, that'd be cd11 which as you say, should fit in with my cycle. Here's hoping! Happy dtd!

First day of school holidays - yay to 7 weeks of work grin

BNmum Thu 25-Jul-13 09:06:57

Hi tea and welcome!

Whoop whoop! For your fixed blue, I hope you recover enough to dtd lots over the next few days. Happy humping!

How's things with everyone else? Any BFPs, afs or fixed smileys?

Bambi27 Thu 25-Jul-13 10:10:02

Hi again tea, yes I had lots of flashing and phoned helpline and lady said it was normal! (Thanks for putting that I the bloody box!!!) hope you all get your fixed soon but if you Dtd every other while flashing lady said that will cover you if it doesn't for some reason turn fixed!!

Bnmum glad to see you're doing well!

No af yet just to keep everyone updated!! Haven't tested today as really don't think I have any chance will do one Tomo morning so I know I'm okay to drink at wedding at weekend!!

BNmum Thu 25-Jul-13 10:16:20

Truth be told bambi I feel awful, I'm so nauseous and tired but trying not to think about it too much.

Bambi27 Thu 25-Jul-13 12:40:06

Oh rubbish Bnmum! Hopefully you are further along than you think like the doc thinks and it'll pass by 12 weeks??!! Fingers crossed!! Xx

BNmum Thu 25-Jul-13 13:21:25

Does it usually pass by 12weeks bambi? Like I say I don't remember feeling like this with #1, although hubby said I was (I'm sure he's made that up!).

How are you feeling today?

Bambi27 Thu 25-Jul-13 13:32:36

Pretty down by this waiting in limbo business but not much I can do!!

Yes most people passes by 12 weeks but for me was about 20 sad

Bambi27 Thu 25-Jul-13 14:25:16

Also soooo tired this afternoon, thinks the mind in constant overdrive as well as the weather! Trying to have a lay down to dd. not working!! wine Needed this weekend!!!

BNmum Thu 25-Jul-13 17:36:12

No wonder you are feeling worn down by it all, do you think your ov could have been delayed? Yeah, I also tried to have a lie down when DS had a snooze, it didn't work at all, I think he may be trying to get rid of his lunchtime nap. NNNOOOOOOO!!

Bambi27 Thu 25-Jul-13 19:11:14

My dd already doesn't have a nap so was trying to tempt her into my bed to watch cartoons! Ha ha! Didn't work!! Well I suppose either way I must have ov late or i would have had af? So depends if hubbies swimmers lastest very long in there! Think I'm out tho! Didn't test today so not tested with fmu for over 2 days so will test in the morning and not going to wee all night as then will definitely have fmu!! If negative defo out and will book into doctors next week!!

StrawberryMojito Thu 25-Jul-13 19:31:31

Hi Tea, welcome to the thread.

I have had my 3rd day of flashing smileys and I'm really hoping I get my peak tomorrow as I am using leftover sticks and tomorrow is my last one. If I don't peak tomorrow I will have to buy some more and I really don't want to do that. I have managed to take my temp before DS wakes up for the last 3 mornings though, it's not really telling me much at the moment.

Poor you BN, it is horrid. I'm not sure I should tell you this but the nausea didn't go for me until 14 weeks. I remember thinking "but they promised me I would feel better by 12 weeks!" I think someone else has already said it upthread but it means that your body is producing the right amount of hormones to maintain the pregnancy so try and see it as reassuring.

Bambi, sorry you're feeling fed up, I can understand why though. Lets hope that you get some closure on this cycle one way or the other tomorrow and you can go and have a few glasses of wine (or get the result that means you can't!).

Bambi27 Thu 25-Jul-13 19:45:23

Thanks strawberry! Here's hoping!!

Also hoping you get your fixed!!! Xxx

charleylarlie Thu 25-Jul-13 20:05:00

Welcome tea1sugar!

Glad you were able to compare the lines, Blue, hope you manage to dtd lots now!

MS is a good sign, BNmum, even if it doesn't always feel like it. I think mine cleared up at about 15 weeks, though theydo say that it's usually more like 12.

really feel for you, Bambi. Must be awful waiting. Hope you can either draw a line under this month or celebrate tomorrow. Hoping for the latter for you, but at least you can drink at the wedding if not.

How are you, Business?

Good luck for a fixed tomorrow, Strawberry. Hoping I get one too. Didn't manage to dtd today as DP got performance anxiety. Think he's stressed out. Hope it's better tomorrow, as I don't hold out much hope for dtd for the rest of the month if not. sad

Tea1Sugar Thu 25-Jul-13 20:05:16

Thanks for the welcomes smile strawberry fingers crossed for your fixed tomorrow! Im not holding out hope for one til Sunday/Monday.

Is it just me, or is anyone else worried about giving their oh "burn out" by dtd too much too early?! I don't want him to be knackered and miss actual O! blush i reckon will dtd every other day whilst getting flashes. Thursday is always out anyway as he plays football. So tonight I have a hot date with a bath and the tv remote!

StrawberryMojito Thu 25-Jul-13 20:30:32

I totally get what you mean tea. It is hard to stop it becoming a chore and I worry that if I put all these demands on him too early, he'll get too tired of it all and refuse by the crucial time. I think that sort of happened last month (along with work commitments) but then he seemed to really regret it and is v committed to the cause this month! We are also doing every other day at the moment until peak fertility then will do it for 2-3 days. It's not so much the amount of sex that is the problem, it is feeling like you 'have' to do it when you don't want to. It's not very romantic.

businessadmin Fri 26-Jul-13 01:32:37

Did my post get posted, coz i cant see it confused

businessadmin Fri 26-Jul-13 01:53:13

Hi everyone,

Im suppose to be due AF 25th july, no show up to now.

I feel like period symptoms, crampy tummy, achey boobs.

I done a PG CB test with morning urine on 23rd july and there was faint thin line on the cross. but done one morning urine with no 25th july and it was negative.

businessadmin Fri 26-Jul-13 01:58:30

but done one on 25th july with second urine , i meant to say smile

Tea1Sugar Fri 26-Jul-13 06:54:36

Hi business. Hmm, defo go poas again!

Cd9 for me and third flashing smiley. In the food shop yesterday I bought one of those chinese "takeaway" for two from sainsburys so that's going to hopefully set dp up to dtd after grin

charleylarlie Fri 26-Jul-13 07:10:05

Yay, the faint line is a good sign, Business! As Tea says, def try again this morning with first urine.

I agree about the pressure to dtd. I always panic and want to start straight trying again immediately after AF has finished just in case I ov really early! This month seems unbearable though, as DP can't get in the mood. We gave up dtd last night as it just wasn't happening. I think trying the smep plan this month might be out of the question. Starting to get rather stressed out by the whole ttc business. sad

Another flashing smiley for me today (cd12) and the 2nd line is getting darker. Not sure if we will be dtd today though. Depends on DP. Am wondering whether it might be a better idea to skip today and try tomorrow instead, although it will then be 4 days in between shags.

So frustrating.

Bambi27 Fri 26-Jul-13 08:06:06

Oh business sounds promising poas already and let us know ;)

I completely sympathise with Dtd when it becomes a chore! It's the way you 'have' to!

Well poas at 5am cus was desperate and wanted a true fmu and it was neg so a fun weekend ahead of wedding and drinking. smile

BNmum Fri 26-Jul-13 08:11:29

Morning ladies,

Have you tested again this morning business? Fingers crossed!

I hope you get your fixed soon charley and tea, have you had any luck this morning strawbs? I would dtd today if you can charley simply because DH's confidence might be battered after yesterday and it might help his performance if he can 'go all the way'. I'd want to tackle that before my peak arrived but you know him best so if you feel he'd be better with a rest then I'd go with that.

Any news your end bambi?
How's things with you blue?

Thanks for all the ms info, I'm hoping its no more than 12weeks. I had a really bad day yesterday. DS had a messy 'poo' accident which really tested my stomach. We both ended up in the bath as it got everywhere and I could seem to get rid of it. I also woke with a start at 2am thinking I was going to vomit everywhere. Does anyone have any tips on things that helped to settle their stomach when feeling like this?

charleylarlie Fri 26-Jul-13 09:57:27

Thanks BNmum, think we'll give it a go and see what happens. Wondering whether to ditch the opks and temping next month to try to take the pressure off. smile

I found that eating little and often helped ms a bit. Ginger biscuits are meant to be good, but I think anything with a bit of sugar in helps. Think I had fruit pastilles on the go at one point. Peppermint tea is meant to be good too, although it was the first thing that made me actually be sick. You might be different though, so might be worth a try?

StrawberryMojito Fri 26-Jul-13 09:58:55

BN, ready salted crisps and bacon sandwiches helped me. All I could stomach was salty food which was strange as they are not normally foods that I'm mad about usually. I found that ms was worse when I was hungry. Ginger tea/biscuits etc were useless.

I got another bloody flashing smiley today. It was number 4 and I am on CD14. Really annoying. We dtd last night and I was hoping that we'd do it a couple of times over the weekend and could relax. So, we'll probably skip tonight now.

Bambi, have a great time at the wedding. Try and forget about baby making and just enjoy yourself.

Charley, I am finding that the smep is probably great if you ovulate early ish but its easy to get really fed up if you start early (as DH and I did) and then still haven't ovulated a week later.

Business - that definitely sounds promising, keep us updated!

Hi tea, I have been using the food tactic, it usually works!

blueamber Fri 26-Jul-13 10:04:01

BNmum, sorry you're feeling so rough. Hopefully someone will have some tips.

Business, fingers crossed! Let us know if you managed to test this morning.

Charley, I can understand the pressure can get to the men. It's diffcult to just get into it when there is no 'natural' start to dtd. It's frustrating for women as well. The men need to do the work right in the beginning, after that it is just us doing it all for 9 months!

Fixed smiley for me today! The oestrogen line was darker than yesterday, meaning that the levels have dropped, which is exactly what happens just before the LH surge. Really hoping I'll ov this time!

blueamber Fri 26-Jul-13 10:08:40

I meant to say - Bambi, it could be that you just didn't ov this month. If that is true, your body might just skip AF and start again with the cycle. I agree with strawberry though, try and not think about it at the wedding and have some nice champagne smile

Tea1Sugar Fri 26-Jul-13 11:52:49

What does o pain feel like? Just had a weird never-before pin prick type feeling but enough to be startled by it on my right side. Dissipated within 20 seconds though so tell me to shut up grin

BNmum Fri 26-Jul-13 14:33:12

Thanks guys, have try some of those tips out.

Congrats blue, that's great news!

When I've had ov pains before tea, they've felt similar to a low down stitch, sometimes a dull ache and othertimes a stabbing pain (not really helpful as that describes just about every pain).

blueamber Fri 26-Jul-13 15:03:39

Seems I got the wrong end of the stick this morning, literally. I got the lines wrong and the dark one which I thought was oestrogen is actually lh! It never got that dark last month, so it must be a good sign my hormones are getting back to normal!

Tea, the pains usually last from an hour to a day, but saying that it is also possible to feel pain as the egg bursts through, which would not last long. I got pains all day last month, but never ov'd, but this time nothing so far. Symptoms can be different every time though.

Tea1Sugar Fri 26-Jul-13 16:00:52

That sounds very promising blue!

Need some advice on my shag timetable: today is cd9, had flashies since cd7 when we dtd, haven't since. Is it worth doing it tonight or hold off for a fixed hopefully tomorrow? Dp can only manage every other day really and don't want to waste his energy!

BNmum Fri 26-Jul-13 16:10:41

It's a difficult one tea but I'd dtd when you can, if DH is keen tonight then I'd go for it just incase something happens e.g. He gets manflu, he falls asleep, can't perform etc etc and then you also miss the next slot too.

Also if your fixed doesn't arrive tomorrow you'll be thinking the same again. If you do get your fixed and DH can't be persuaded to dtd, you'll still be 'covered'. Good luck!

Tea1Sugar Fri 26-Jul-13 17:26:03

Very logical blue thanks grin plus we have a two hour train journey to bournemouth and back tomorrow which will tire us out

businessadmin Fri 26-Jul-13 17:54:31

I Done PG Test with this morning urine, negative again sad.

Ive ad a little bleed on tissue, so think AF is coming sad.

Ive think ive done IUI too early on Day 11 instead ov Day 15/16, Il try
next time, im gona do it on the proper day.

BNmum Fri 26-Jul-13 18:55:54

I'm sorry to hear that business sad

Would you try IUI next cycle if af turns up or wait abit? Do the clinic offer any advice?

If you go for IUI again and given how sensitive the adv OPKs are I thnk you could wait till you get your fixed and then go in as this would usually be 24hrs before you would get an smiley on the normal OPKs. Given how tight your window is, it would give you a good chance. If you ovulate on the same day every cycle you should be in a good position to know when this will happen too.

charleylarlie Fri 26-Jul-13 19:25:26

Sorry to hear that, Business, I would do as BNmum says and go in the day after the first fixed smiley. Also, def do something nice this weekend to cheer yourself up!

yep, def a good idea to dtd today, Tea, esp if you think DP might be tired tomorrow.

Hopefully your opk line is a good sign, Blue, even if you did misread it.

Hope we get our fixeds tomorrow, Strawberry. It's so hard knowing when to start dtd. Think I'll hang fire a bit next month if no bfp.

Enjoy the wedding, Bambi!

Hope you're not feeling too queasy, BNmum.

The good news is that DP was feeling less stressed today so managed a quickie when ds was having his nap. Had a nice afternoon book shopping, so I'm feeling much more positive now, even if I do have to work tomorrow! smile

StrawberryMojito Fri 26-Jul-13 20:06:51

Sorry to hear about the negative test business. Better luck next month.

Glad you managed that quickie Charley, hopefully it will take the pressure off your DP. I'm on CD13 not 14 as I said earlier, so it think it maybe a couple of days before I ov yet. I think we will have a night off tonight. Please let us get a fixed smiley tomorrow!

Have a good weekend everyone.

blueamber Fri 26-Jul-13 20:24:52

Sorry about that, business. It's Difficult to predict when you have flashing smilies when you'll get your fixed one. But when you do get the fixed one and the lh surge, ov usually happens 12-36 hours after that, with the egg surviving for 12-24 hours, so you should have enough time. Would you be able to go to the clinic on the same day or do you have to wait a day?

The ov pains have started. Ouch. Really hope it'll not be for nothing.

businessadmin Fri 26-Jul-13 21:44:12

Hi,

Thanx BNmum , charley, strawberry and Blueamber smile.

My bleed alittle light at the moment, just ave to see, if it get heavier .

Im goin to use the normally OPK with the lines, the smiley fixed advance OPK give me the wrong impression.

Bambi27 Fri 26-Jul-13 23:19:53

Ah business I'm sorry really had fingers crossed for you sad sorry it's a bfn and af seems on her way!!

Enjoying hearing all your flashing/fixed stories I would suggest Dtd when the mood take you, don't worry about tomorrow, hopefully the mood will take you again smile

No af still for me but hey ho I'm going to enjoy my weekend!!!

StrawberryMojito Sat 27-Jul-13 06:07:16