The Elderberry Pavlovas: sit on the sofa of hopefulness and make yourself a special omelette while prescribing the vomming cat to those that deserve it and observing the lunching of the tactless.

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It's time for some more grads!!

The smallprint - Berries have a strict entrance criteria (TTC #1, over 30, TTC for 3+months NO instadiffers, must have a special pot)

happylass Thu 16-May-13 10:42:47

<hops off the shuttle, bags a spot on the poufée of possibility and is delighted to be early for a change>
Hey Barking and well done on the lovely new thread. That'll teach Bunny for buggering off on hols and leaving us unsupervised wink
Didn't add my résumé on last thread so here goes:
Happylass 35 cycle 10. Desperately trying to pop one out before wedding next year. Getting initial blood tests at GP so can hopefully be referred asap.

<slinks onto shuttle and curls up with hand made quilt at the back>

Thanks barking I love the omelette reference too!

sconeoclock Thu 16-May-13 11:16:12

Love new thread title!

Thanks for bbt link, have ordered one!

yorkiebilb Thu 16-May-13 11:49:21

Hello all!

Found you. Great title but officially put off omelettes for life now!

Yorkiebilb, 35. Ttc since Sep 2012. Mmc Dec. Initial blood tests done. DH sa showing low motility but retesting next week then referral to fc. Thoroughly fed up of it all!

Tallyra Thu 16-May-13 12:40:11

Hiya. Just jumping off the shuttle. Will talk later. Thank you for making the new thread barking!

Tallyra Thu 16-May-13 12:45:57

haha, just checked facebook and 'lactofree' asked opinions about the way to make a perfect omelette. nearly choked on my tea....hmm

Ha tally! Did you say, start with some soft lighting, romantic music and a small beaker...

Bajas Thu 16-May-13 15:25:02

Glad to see the omelette made it into the title grin

BlindKitty Thu 16-May-13 15:42:44

And my cat!!!!

Well my news today is that DP has a date for his op (needs a circumcision to stop the occasional bouts of eczema he's getting in that area). 6th June. My 1st (and incredibly selfish thought) was to go straight to my ff app and see whether that would fall in/before shag week next cycle blush . It does sad .
And in other news, AF is still not here. 10 dpo!! Why didn't I try vit b6 sooner?!?! And why does it appear to have worked on the only cycle in 18 months hat we failed to dtd at the right time?!?!? shock

<whispers> poas barking

Bunnygirlie Thu 16-May-13 18:39:03

Just jumped off the flying sausage shuttle to say hi before I head back to the sun lounger of sadness, AF not due for a week but she has sent her itchy bitch welcome party ahead of her! I just hope she delays her visit till I am home!
Frog - sorry to hear OH is being an arse!
Barking - gutted OHs op will ruin shag week!

Anybody due to POAS?

P.s. how very dare you board the shuttle without me wink

yorkiebilb Thu 16-May-13 18:39:27

barking don't be so hard in yourself. I would have done exactly the same.

<echoes thunder poas>

sconeoclock Thu 16-May-13 19:43:07

barking perhaps you can get dp to jazz in a beaker so you can make an omelette after his op during shag week?

Have you poas yet? Although 10dpo might be a bit early?

I caved to peer pressure and pimped. BFN. Doesn't change anything as if I'd got a bfp I wouldn't believe it and as I got a bfn it's only because it's too soon <not because I we didn't dtd on a single peak day>.

So still just waiting for AF to arrive. Didn't make an appointment today but mainly because I just didn't get a chance between 5-8 when they like you to call.
I told DP if it didn't arrive soon there was a chance my hsg would be during half term and he just shrugged and said the hsg was the important thing smile .

Tallyra Thu 16-May-13 20:00:37

ah fuck girls, I really need a hug. huge upset at work, went to yoga to try and calm down and arrived home to find dh has not even started cooking the roast that I made sure would be simple to just bung in the oven when he got home. now won't be eating til 9 and I'm ravenous and emotional and he's on the sofa - probably hasn't even realised I've stormed off.

I would also be annoyed at that. Have wine and a biscuit and some thanks . Perhaps a brew ?
I get grumpy when I'm hungry so finding out dinner is late is a bad thing I sympathise with a lot!! <hugs>

sconeoclock Thu 16-May-13 20:10:50

Hug tally
Go and get yourself a takeaway and if dh asks say you can't wait to eat until 9 and he forgot dinner!

Tallyra Thu 16-May-13 20:20:06

I'd love to, but we can't afford anything extra at the moment. And I think I want to quit my job. that's going to muck up plans somewhat. (understatement of the year). I really want to stay long enough to take advantage of maternity leave though. angry angry angry angry angry angry angry angry angry angry angry angry angry angry angry angry angry angry

sconeoclock Thu 16-May-13 20:24:14

How much longer would you have to be there to qualify?

sconeoclock Thu 16-May-13 20:24:53

How much longer would you have to be there to qualify?

Tallyra Thu 16-May-13 20:49:09

I could get it now. been there 3 years now. dh just suggested I move to his company and do 1st line tech support with him as team leader. must admit it's tempting but probably very wrong.

Tallyra Thu 16-May-13 20:52:14

I'm pretty sure I could get diffed pretty soon but really want to get checked over before I try again confused

sconeoclock Thu 16-May-13 21:08:07

So probably you would only have to be there another year Max? That's assuming you get diffed in the next 4 months.

I guess it depends how bad it is and whether or not you could work with dh!!

Tallyra Thu 16-May-13 21:34:23

I'm also considering going self employed making quilted nags, but I don't know if that would pay the bills. the best option I suppose is staying where I am and seeing if they sell.

I'm hesitant about getting diffed scone because I've had many problems in the past. wel actually 2. One being hyperemesis, hospitalised for dehydration. the other was miscarrying at 9 weeks 3 times. add them up and you get a broody scaredy tally!

Tallyra Thu 16-May-13 21:34:53

um, bags not nags.... blush

sconeoclock Thu 16-May-13 21:47:40

tally will they not monitor you quite closely next time given your history?

I'm on South Coast, would be happy to trial a few of your bags in the tea room gift shop if you want?

Tallyra Thu 16-May-13 22:06:39

Aww, amazing scone, thank you! I'm in Kent, so maybe it would work...
Yes, they hopefully would but they are ridiculously crap at this - the last time, I asked for an 8/9 week scan, and despite having been hospitalised the previous week, they still told me they 'don't do reassurance scans' at the EPU, and I had to get hold of my consultant from when I was admitted to get anything. And she promptly told me the bad news and got me booked in for an erpc. again. for the third time sad

Tallyra Thu 16-May-13 22:07:19

I'd have to get making... I've only got the one I made for myself the other week at the moment, I keep giving stuff away!

sconeoclock Thu 16-May-13 22:14:15

Fix when you see the fc they will make sure you get monitored properly next time, or find something easily fixable.

Can you put a pic of one on here? You'd need to work out how much you would want to sell therm for and then I can see if we can add a reasonable mark up on top and still sell them.

sconeoclock Thu 16-May-13 22:14:35


Tallyra Thu 16-May-13 22:40:01

I've posted a couple on my profile...

BlindKitty Fri 17-May-13 02:54:29

barking what dose of b6 did you take? Might suggest this to my friend.
Oh and checking ff is prob the first thing I'd do!!!

tally I'd be annoyed re dinner (as I regularly am when I give the mist basic of instructions and find dh is playing on his computer!). It annoys me as I always have dinner ready the moment he walks through the door otherwise!

In my news, opk'd today and can see a faint line, which will mean I will prob have a positive tomorrow... Effing great seeing as I'll be flying home tomorrow! Looks like dh will have to jiac after all..,,

50mg I think kitty.

Been wide awake since 5am for no apparent reason. Didn't temp as was expecting to fall asleep again and wake at usual time. Now I'm lying in bed obsessively going over past charts on ff and half wanting to pimp again, half not wanting to get out of bed and find AF has arrived. But on the other hand I do because I could then book the hsg, and for there to be any chance this cycle DP's swimmers would have had to set up camp and wait around a long time for the egg!!!

sconeoclock Fri 17-May-13 07:28:52

tally have sent you a pm

kitty are you going to have a mile high omelette?! Could take some explaining to customs!!

barking any news on AF?

GooseyD Fri 17-May-13 07:32:54

<pops of shuttle in a hurry to dash off to work as bit late>

Barking, get out of bed and tell us whether you've made it to day 11dpo!! Just exactly how long would DP's swimmers have to have been sitting around to make a BFP possible? You're taking 50mg a day B6? Is it B6 Complex or just straight B6. Maybe I was overdoing it - I'd read to take 200mg, though I did build it up slowly.

Delayed double-take, didn't Pip appear briefly towards end of last thread but no news on her IVF appointment? Or did I miss a page? Pip, how did it go??

Still no AF but another BFN. Now on 11dpo, this has not happened since I started charting 12 cycles ago!!! Swimmers would have been waiting 6 days for the egg shuffle, and DP is not good at waiting around doing nothing so can't imagine his swimmers sat there for that long!!!

This is now getting quite frustrating!! Not even got cramps now or any other sign it's coming (other than a few spots).

Oh, and straight b6 goosey but only for the first half of the cycle as then I got fed up and lost all hope and hadn't dtd anyway so didn't see the point.

BlindKitty Fri 17-May-13 08:37:07

barking do think you should poas but I'm still going to suggest it to my friend.

scone I've already thought of that!!! Although dh is insisting he won't, I'm still going to try to make him jiac on plane, I'll then go I. Afterwards with my preseed applicator - simples! and a bit crazy

kitty I have!! well, pimped anyway Twice!! bfn...

sconeoclock Fri 17-May-13 08:44:46

kitty will certainly be a great story to tell the grandchildren one day!
Just make sure to DTD as much as you can before you leave in case dh gets flight nerves lol

barking 6 days is not impossible, could only be 5 depending on what time of the day you ovulated...

Fx you get as or bfp soon, 11dpo is still quite early...

If you get a + tomorrow kitty (is that today now?) won't that mean O will be the next day? So if you dtd today and when you get back home you are more than covered?

GooseyD Fri 17-May-13 09:13:51

barking i was so in suspense i had to log on when arrived work. wow, what is going on? whichever way its got to be good news right?

kitty sounds like Barking could be right thst dtd either side of flight shouldnt be a disaster, BUT where's the hsrm in an extra if dh persuadable?! good luck!

BlindKitty Fri 17-May-13 10:25:07

Haha he'll never agree anyway! He gets stage fright! He keeps shutting all the blinds in our villa just to have a wee!

Plan is to squeeze as much sun as we can out if the hol (or vit d purposes beach bod tan, go for a massage and get my body all relaxed and then bd the hell out of dh

AF just landed. So an LP of 10 days. Not mind blowing but an improvement, will persevere a bit longer with the vit b6. Off to call the hospital to book my hsg.

Nice one barking! Shame it's not a bfp obviously but nice lp improvement girl!

Not managing to see the happy side just yet, had let myself get my hopes up sad . Just cried on DP as soon as he walked through the door.
HSG booked for next Thursday morning when I have a meeting with an outside professional and a parent about a child at school. Bloody awful timing but the only appointment they could give me without waiting another cycle. Don't know what to tell school.
Supposed to be out for a mate's birthday tonight but feeling a long way from a party mood and keep crying. Need to pull myself together.

Oh pants. Sorry you're feeling blue, barking. It really is a food thing that your lp has got longer but it's a right kick in the teeth when you'd got your hopes up. Can I suggest a large wine? I'll join you with that....

GooseyD Fri 17-May-13 19:14:46

Hi Barking, hi Thunder

Barking sorry you're feeling rubbish. AF hormones and the disappointment when you've got your hopes up are just the worst inevitable mixture. Not surprised you're not so rosy today - but just think, 3 days ago a 10 day LP was the stuff of dreams. If that stays sorted that could just be your only barrier out the way. Fingers so crossed for you thay thats the case.

I would love to join you ladies in a wine - its middle off my rather pathetic less than 1ww - do you guys drink post O? I keep changing my mind.

Hi goosey,

I drink all the bloody time throughout the 2ww. I had a rather boozy weekend before getting my bfp last time and for me, cutting out a few drinks would be a step too far towards letting ttc TOTALLY take over my life. Joking aside, I have cut down loads in general, but the fact that bfp af is due in the next couple of days doesn't stop me having a drink now. It's when I need it most! I know others will disagree- just personal for me and it may well change in time.

How are the wedding plans progressing? smile

MrsB00Mbastic Fri 17-May-13 22:07:11

<pootles in late, having missed the Sausage Shuttle. Bagsies place on sofa of pity, since pouffe of possibility seems a bit hopeful>

Hi all, found you!

Barking I'm sorry she showed, it's so hard when you let down your guard and let yourself believe that this might be it only to be let down by Mother Effing Nature. No wonder you're feeling rubbish, have some more wine pinch goose's so she doesn't have to worry about drinking it On the bright side, at least your hsg is booked despite poor timing, and the B6 seems to be doing good things. So maybe next cycle it'll all come together with a bang for you [need a fingers crossed icon]

Kitty have you ever seen Saturday Morning Kitchen where they have the omelette making competition? For some reason this is the image I get of you and Mr Blind joining the mile-high-omelette club!

Goosey I have the occasional glass - but then my 2ww is 2 months long, and if I've not got a definite bun in the oven I'm not going teetotal for 2 months!

Had an odd day here. Shattered after a nasty night/day/night shift pattern and exams this week, feeling very emotional and tearful. Then DH had his appointment (which I made after waiting two weeks for him to do it) at GP to get sperm analysis sorted, got given his pot and told to phone hospital to find out when he could hand in his sample. And of course he hasn't phoned so now we'll have to wait until after the weekend to find out. I know it's only a short wait in the grand scheme of things but HOW BLOODY HARD is it to do one little thing to show willing? He's done nothing but whinge about me nagging him about the whole sperm thing - well this is why, because otherwise it won't get done! So now we're fighting and I'm miserable and all I want to do is comfort eat but I'm mortified at how much weight I've put on since ttc and am feeling angry at myself for letting it happen. So - BAH!


Other than that, pobbing along as usual. Day 38 in the Big Brother Womb, no developments to report!

MrsB00Mbastic Fri 17-May-13 22:07:51

Er...bobbing. Not pobbing. <fail>

Bunnygirlie Fri 17-May-13 22:37:30

(Sits quietly in the corner wondering if anybody can see her)

MrsB00Mbastic Fri 17-May-13 22:48:38

Anyone feel a strange rabbity presence in Berry HQ tonight? grin

Bunnygirlie Fri 17-May-13 22:57:12

(Sits in the corner and giggles after too many holiday cocktails)

<trips over bunny and stumps toe on sofa of pity, collapses on the floor in the corner>

goose I went tee total when I started ttc. After about 14 months of sober weddings and parties for no positive result I gave up and allowed myself the very occasional small glass of wine on a special occasion but never in the 2ww 8dw. Since realising my LP means it isn't going to happen without help, and the nurse at the fc telling me the occasional glass of wine won't hurt, I've launched myself well and truly off the wagon. But then a big night of drinking in the pub for me is two glasses of wine, which I had tonight after AF the bitch pretended she wasn't coming and waited until I let myself hope and then pounced. <hic>. Normally I would nurse 1 drink all night. If AF hadn't arrived this evening I wouldn't have had a drink though.

In the pub my mate told me her and her partner of 12 years had split up, and my single mate was talking about sperm donation and not waiting any longer to find a man, so I stopped feeling so sorry for myself. blush

Especially as my DP kindly went and put my wheat bag in the microwave and brought it up to bed for me to help with the horrible period pains I've got right now. Life is good in lots of other ways, and a child will come along eventually one way or another. This cycle is the cycle of positivity grin .

sconeoclock Sat 18-May-13 07:07:07

Morning all,

boom hope you have a better day today, try and forget about it for the weekend and maybe leave dh a little reminder note somewhere on Monday?

barking sorry AF got you, but like others have said perhaps your short lp was your main barrier and now you have that sorted you may get updiffed with ease!

goosey I usually have a couple of drinks when we shut shop each night. We go across the road to the pub, it gives me a clear separation between home and work which I need seeing as I live above the shop.
I only ever have 2, although last night we went, I had 3 then we decided to go out for dinner, rolling in at 11pm I forgot I had left scones in the oven!!

Finally got my cross hairs on ff today, and hopefully we DTD at the right times thus month...

Morning all

scone thank goodness it was scones and not buns- otherwise we might see that as a bad omen.....

Sounds like you've done well with your timings this month.

barking I'm so pleased you went to the pub in the end. Sounds like your mates are having a bit of a tough time too- but it's great to step outside the door to get a but of perspective sometimes. I know I need slapping with the perspective sausage on many occasion.

13dpo here and I have what I might have thought in the past were symptoms but I have learnt the hard way that they will doubtless amount to nothing. Af due tomorrow or Monday. Trying not to get any hopes up whatsoever and start moving mentally onto the next cycle.

boom, remember pob? That has brought a whole different set of images to mind of what you're up to..,
Sorry that DH is being a damned fool though.

Bunnygirlie Sat 18-May-13 08:53:03

Boom - why are our men so useless?!?!? My DH has had two failed attempts at the jizz test so I am hoping third time lucky, but has he booked himself in??? Has he f*ck! It's really REALLY annoyed me! Doctor says he should abstain for 5-10 days before test so I said after holiday would be good (we are away with friends in a small apartment so I won't be up for DTD) because any other time I'll want to be DTD!!! Grrrrrr

<hands bunny another holiday cocktail>

Bloody men.

GooseyD Sat 18-May-13 09:27:34

Hi Thunder - aha! - for once I've logged on when there is someone else in Berry HQ, I was beginning to think I smelt or something! smile

GooseyD Sat 18-May-13 09:31:09

Just don't talk to me about useless DPs! I don't know why I don't feel more irritated with Mr Goose right now, given his catalogue of not getting round to it. The worst was leaving booking his initial jizz test for MONTHS as I had so many tests to get through - but then of course he called up and they told him there was a two month wait to get an appointment so basically that meant we were waiting for just that, and it was right over the Christmas holidays when I'd been hoping to get all the first raft of tests well out of the way and a consultant apt in in 2012.

I'm here goosey. Want a brew?

GooseyD Sat 18-May-13 09:50:13

Ah lovely, just what I need.

happylass Sat 18-May-13 09:50:22

Morning Berries. Sorry AF got you Barking but good news on the increased LP and booking the HSG. Yey for the crosshairs Scone.
Boo to all the DH/DPs who are dragging their feet on the jizz test front. Have to say Mr Happy (who is usually a lazy arse at getting anything done) came up trumps on that front. Took himself off to the GP back in December without me even mentioning it (and when we'd only been trying 4 months!) and has proceeded to brag ever since about his apparently 'above average' swimmers
Due to OV sometime today but DP is 400 miles away in bloody Glasgow humph. Plan to jump him as soon as he gets in tonight though grin. Just hope it's not too late!
Looking to be a lovely day here so off for some shopping and lunch with my mum. Have a good day all.

GooseyD Sat 18-May-13 09:51:16

I'm also AF due Mon or Tues. Get awful PMT so I'm just waiting for the grumps to hit!

GooseyD Sat 18-May-13 09:53:48

Waves at Happy - enjoy the shopping trip! Sun keeps peeking out here to tantalise us but then disappearing into grey cloud.

Oh the grumps hit me about a week ago! Poor DH has nhs his work cut out keeping the thundercats household sweet. If he ends up needing to go for a jizz test then he will be equally as crap as the others (not happy's star pupil!) so I dread the day!

Enjoy shopping and lunch happy, sounds lovely!

GooseyD Sat 18-May-13 11:04:00

Thunder I thought they just sent all men involved in TTC couples to have a test in case. How long after the mc have you been trying?

Thanks for asking re wedding plans - they have actually ground to a halt with the Clomid coming up. We've told people it's likely to be next summer and looked at one venue, but that's it! But actually I think it would be good to shift my focus a bit, as constantly thinking about timing and what-ifs and bothering Dr Google for ultimately inconclusive information isn't necessarily doing me any good!

Barking, Thunder, Scone and Boom thanks for completing my alcohol consumption survey! In general I do have a drink or several when I feel like it! But I wonder whether I should when taking Clomid... oh no, I feel another Dr Google session coming on.

Kitty are you back yet? How was the flight? wink
Have you got any advice re Clomid? Do you know what it's meant to do to your cycle and when you should dtd? Also whether you should cut out alcohol?

Barking, you are so right about perspective. I think - hope! - I'm just coming out of quite a self absorbed phase and realising that other people have quite a lot of sh*t to deal with too. Is your friend that just split up the same one you mentioned whose partner wouldn't talk about when/if wanted kids?

happylass Sat 18-May-13 11:18:15

Goose wedding planning definitely helps in taking your mind off TTC. I now spend my time Googling wedding dresses and decor instead of EWCM and LP length! Not sure what's going to happen if I don't get upduffed in next few months tho. Much as I don't want to I guess we're gonna have to not TTC for a little while to avoid possibly clashing baby with wedding.

goose mmc was in Nov but I found out just after I'd developed hypothyroidism (prob triggered by pg and doubtless linked to mc in my mind), and so wrong blood levels are likely to be the main barrier at the moment.

I think it's a great idea to immerse yourself in wedding stuff even if it's not going to happen imminently. I don't know anything about clomid but I do know that dr google is a scaremongering troublemaker.

I've been on Dr Google this morning to see if a 10 day LP would be long enough if I can manage that again. Inconclusive. Some say no, some say maybe, some say yes. All say 12 days plus is best. So taking the vit b6 religiously this month and keeping up the positivity. I don't think my negative stance is useful whether it's justified or not!!

goose yes, same friend. So not a complete shock, but they had been trying counselling etc so wasn't expecting it.

Happy I think it's definitely good to have something else to Google/ obsess over! I'm getting into planning our trip to California this summer grin .
A friend of my brother's got married at 8 months pregnant. She looked absolutely stunning and the wedding was amazing. Don't stop trying for too long!!

happy why dont you stop actively trying but don't actually use any contraception etc. it will give your heads a bit of a break and take the pressure right off and you know that can be a very good thing

Good to see the positivity back barking

Bunnygirlie Sat 18-May-13 13:26:01

Bit early for more cocktails, might wait till tonight! Guess that answers the do i drink in the 2ww question for you goose, AF due weds/thurs here!

Weather here is a bit pants sad so quite annoyed! Guess I will be returning to the uk pasty and fat!

Frogcatcher Sat 18-May-13 16:14:32

Just popping in to say hi on the new thread! Sorry AF got you barking I was getting all excited there when catching up.

Sorry to report that sometimes the menfolk don't get much better when you're diffed. Mr Frog still being a bit of an arse - we went to cricket in London on Thurs & he got absolutely smashed & I had to get him home. Not fun when I'd been drinking Becks Blue all day (my new best friend - actually tastes ok for alcohol-free beer). He has apologised & tried to make it up to me but his head is still not right. I think we have DTD once since I found out I was diffed so something is wrong sad. We had a hotel break yesterday with four poster bed & everything but both ate so much on the 7 course tasting menu that we went straight to sleep in food comas.

Oh & I used to drink in the 2WW & had definitely had wine when I got diffed. blush. When AF came though it was usually cause for considerable amounts of wine & nicking one of DP's menthol fags. blush blush

CharmingCats Sat 18-May-13 17:06:15

Loving the new thread and reading your news.
Cd 45......
Enjoyed the reflexology session last week, going again n Tuesday. Floated home. Am cutting down on wheat, dairy and sugar with the view to eliminating very soon. Not feeling the benefit yet, as still been having some, but no bread this week. Adding pasta and milk to the list next week... Had a latte today...goodbye my friend.
Found a great beauty therapist who doesn't charge the earth - apart from a baby and a good hairdresser, that has been my holy grail.

MrsB00Mbastic Sat 18-May-13 18:30:31

Evenin' all

Just popping in quickly to wave at you all! Halfway through an incredibly dull essay...can't wait to no longer be a student, at my age it's undignified and I loathe essays. Just LOATHE them.

Thunder Just looked pob up. Errrm...suffice to say that that is not featuring anywhere in any of my activities!

barking step away from google! None of the advice it gives is ever good for anything other than worrying you. I know because I'm always doing it and therefore being a massive hypocrite telling you not to!

Charming boo to getting to the 40s. Never mind, I'll be joining you tomorrow!

Barking glad you're back on the bright side smile

I know I've missed people out, but have to get back to bashing out a few thousand more words. Those of you on the wine have one for me wink

PuppyMummy Sat 18-May-13 19:42:39

marking my place on new thread! cd 14
much pizza, wine and chocs being consumed here!

I drink in the first part of the 2ww but try not to in the second half or just have 2 or 3 if we have something planned. when we first started ttc I didn't drink. after 17 cycles -forget it!!

Bunnygirlie Sat 18-May-13 22:49:24

Hola! Muchos cocktails drunken here! Had a moment tonight when I just thought, I really hope this is my last holiday getting drunk, I just want a baby instead (sobs) aaaagh why is life so unfair!!!

BlindKitty Sun 19-May-13 05:14:21

goosey back last night and strait to bed (hence 4.00 Wake up). Had a fab time thanks!
Re alcohol, my fc said no more than 7 units with or without clomid. I've tried to completely abstain but it just makes me more miserable. However, dh rolled his eyes when I changed my 'coke' to a 'vodka and coke' on plane and said 'its absolutely fine if you can live with the guilt' wtf?!!!! -- so I ordered another--

barking don't be sad hon, at least you can book your Hsg now. My friend got pg the month after hers!

boom men are just useless. I'm now going to unpack at thus ungodly hour as chance of dh doing it is extremely slim!

BlindKitty Sun 19-May-13 07:36:02

Oh and just started my marathon coronation street marathon and wham, there's Kylie with her kicking baby bump!!! Grrr!!!

Welcome home kitty

I was grounded last night by DP as I've been coming down with something all week and yesterday I was in the house wearing thermals, a hoody, a down gillet and a woolly hat and I was still cold. Fell asleep for a good 3 hours when I crawled into bed to get warm. So I wasn't allowed to go to our mate's bbq last night sad . This morning I don't have a temperature any more but I do still have sore throat etc. Have a bike ride planned with 4 other girls that I've been really looking forward to. Leaving in an hour. Can't decide whether to just go for it or to stay in bed confused .

happylass Sun 19-May-13 09:07:29

So this has annoyed me before I've even got out of bed! Not just the theme of the thread but the ridiculous comments like 'if women had babies earlier in life then they'd be less cost to the NHS'. So, we should all not have a career/life and settle down with the first bloke that comes along just to save the country a bit of money?? When in fact I've been working full time for the last 12 years and paying thousands of pounds in taxes and think I fully deserve any help I need! Also who knows if we would have got upduffed any quicker 10 years ago? There are actually lots of women in hir 20s who have problems TTC. Grrrr.

happylass Sun 19-May-13 09:08:33

Morning Berries by the way grin

Frogcatcher Sun 19-May-13 09:18:07

happy I've already posted my tuppence worth on there on exactly the same lines! Who do we think is going to cost the state more overall - me with my older therefore allegedly more complicated pregnancy or DP's instadiffing 18 year old benefit & council house eligible niece?!

Anyway didn't KG get papped smoking when pg? Hardly a role model. The whole campaign is basically an advert for first response so I think that there should be a POAS boycott of FR.

Tallyra Sun 19-May-13 09:47:53

Well my opinion is I have given the NHS 13 years of not going to the doctor much and not having a sickly child/many sickly children for them to look after compared to having then at 20. how my h money am u going to cost them now? hopefully not much more than I would have earlier. what difference does that make? ooh that has made me angry. I married dh at 27 and wasn't ready til 29. was I supposed to get duffed asap once I met him? good way of scaring him off too! ffs.angry

Tallyra Sun 19-May-13 09:48:24

sorry, hello again. been bedridden with tummy bug so will catch up later xxx

MrsB00Mbastic Sun 19-May-13 12:46:55

Happy Sunday berries!

Kitty welcome home! I take it the vodka and cokes were instead of in-flight sperm omelettes? grin Hope you manage to jump him today!

Barking sorry you're feeling rough, did you go biking in the end?

Tally hope you're feeling better too!

Bunny hugs x

Hi puppy!

happy, frog I went off the deep end with that bloody campaign. Who does she think she is to swan around telling everyone else what not to do when she's done it herself, and with fag in gob to boot! Pot - kettle - black. Besides which I would happily have started trying years ago, lack of parter and then lack of willing partner held me up I'm afraid. How selfish of me to wait until I'm in a loving, stable relationship in which to raise my kids. Should I have lined up the one night stands, flushed the pill and stuck pins through the condoms instead? Grrr angry

Anyway. Rant over. Nose back to essay grindstone...

Cate555 Sun 19-May-13 13:01:35

Just throwing in my crazy idea on booze. Until u get a bfp the placenta hasn't formed therefore the little mini baby doesn't have access to your blood and all the alcohol so until you get a bfp I'd say there is no harm in a few bevies just keep hydrated smile

Bunnygirlie Sun 19-May-13 13:17:13

Thanks boom for the hugs, there seems to be an awful lot of bumps around this holiday, think I counted 17! Grrrrr

Sun out here at last, time to sunbathe for a bit, home Tuesday so not much time left!

Hope all berries are ok? Who is due POAS/AF soon?

MrsB00Mbastic Sun 19-May-13 13:48:53

Hooray for the sunshine bunny! It's trying here, which is annoying because I have to go to work in an hour and it's always hell when the beer garden's full. Hope you enjoy the next couple of days, and manage to avoid all those bumps! maybe slurp your cocktail with exaggerated enjoyment next time you see one

Cate my sentiments precisely!

BlindKitty Sun 19-May-13 14:46:51

happlily I'm so mad with the mn post! I've waited until we're in a perfect place with getting married, getting the perfect house, being more financially stable etc but can't help but think that Kate f***ing-know-it-all garraway is right sad

boom had so much get-up-and -go from 4.00am that was strait up doing the washing, etc so left dh in bed. Now slumped on the sofa trying to get my sorry ass to sainsburys but can't seem to summon the energy! Will have to jump him before bed!

frog didn't know that ch was caught smoking. You see all the heavily pregnant chavs doing it outside the hospital where I have my fertility appointments. She's no better than them!

BlindKitty Sun 19-May-13 14:48:18

happy last post was for you! Getting my mn users mixed up!!!!

Hi all,

Welcome back kitty, hope you manage to get back into BST sharpish!

Grrr angry re the article too.

My af due today or tomorrow. No sign as yet.....hmm

That article (and some of the posts on that thread) made me angry angry angry angry. I am not ttc at this age out of choice, and actually we moved a lot quicker than we would otherwise have done because I was incredibly aware of my age and knew it might not happen straight away so we needed to get going. We started ttc when I was 32 and we'd only been together just over 2 years. DP asked if I would prefer to be married first and I just said maybe in an ideal world but we didn't have time to put it off until after we'd managed to get that organised and done in case it didn't happen straight away for us! So glad I made that decision as we're now 18 months down the road and we could be just starting to try now and have the last 18 months still ahead of us, while watching all DP's friends have babies one after the other. We'll probably still end up getting married before pg at this rate sad. I'm 34 next month and I'd really like to think I will be pg by the time I'm 35 given I started trying at 32!

Boom, thanks, yes I went biking but did 15 miles rather the planned 20, which I think was sensible!!

Got back and DP told me he thought our next door neighbour was pg again - she popped out the back door a bit later and yep, there's the obvious bump that until now had been hidden by layers of clothing in the colder weather. That'll be her 4th then envy. They can't control the 3 that they've already got, you just hear them shouting all the time. She gets pg so ridiculously easy, I remember her telling me a couple of summers ago that she was thinking of having another baby and a few months later she announces she's pg. That one has only just turned 1 and she looks about 6 months gone at least with this one. Not fair!!!! envy Now literally surrounded by pg women. She has to walk past our door with her three kids and bump to get out to the road as we all use the back doors on our bit. So right in my face every day. sad

happylass Sun 19-May-13 16:20:17

Saw loads of pg women out today too. Must be the nice weather. Even saw one smoking angry
On a more positive note should be OV ing anytime now. Have DTD 6 times this cycle already (3 times in the last 24hrs - not normal in the happy household!!). So if I don't get upduffed this month there's no hope!!

Bloody Nora happy that is very impressive!

barking are you feeling better for it?

Spoke to soon. Af arriveth sad

Yes I am thunder. I think the hills took my mind off my period pain as well!!!

Well done happy !!

Gillster Sun 19-May-13 16:48:32

Hi, please can I join the berries? A bit of background: I am 39 and have been TTC for about 15 months with DH (32). I am in the middle of a load of tests and have my HSG on Tuesday. Ultrasound last week showed an endometrial polyp which has probably been preventing implantation and needs to be removed although don't know yet when this will happen, hopefully it will be soon. Still going to make an effort with DTD but not holding out a lot of hope until this is sorted. Would be nice to natter and get support with some fellow berries.

BlindKitty Sun 19-May-13 16:57:51

Went shopping and there were soooo many pregnant women/ children. Felt like the bumps/babies/nappies etc were all slapping me invthe face! Managed to walk strait past the gu pots of destiny and only bought healthy food for my post hol diet to get my baby body ready! Need to shift the 2kg I put on!

Hi gillster, welcome!! smile
I've got my hsg on Thursday. Hope you get the polyp sorted pronto. When will you find out a likely date?

GooseyD Sun 19-May-13 17:07:36

Wow Happy I am impressed! What did you have for breakfast, we need some of it in the Goose household!

Don't know if I should risk this rather controversial opinion but a really good friend of mine who smoked heavily all her life really struggled with giving up when pregnant. She did really well cutting right down to about one a week straight away and then giving up completely - even her doctor said that was best as the stress physically and emotionally of giving up when so addicted is huge. Obviously giving up if any chance of pg would be better but then there are so many reasons to give up and yet people struggle. If shed been a stranger I would have felt angry but knowing her and how hard it was I was proud of her.

BlindKitty Sun 19-May-13 17:22:46

gilster <waves> my friend is in same boat as you and getting her polyp removed next month (they found it about 3 weeks ago). She's been getting really painful periods so not sure if it had something to do with it. Had my Hsg few months back, was all fine and nothing to worry about x

goosey have you seen the mn article about midwives testing women for carbon monoxide? Hate seeing pg people smoking but can't see it working

Gillster Sun 19-May-13 17:31:53

Hi barking, received letter yesterday from original consultant saying that I was being referred to an infertility consultant in the same hospital and that I would receive an appointment in due course. Incidentally, the HSG test on Tuesday is with the same person so I'm going to ask then. At least I can confirm I'm definitely not preggers -DH has been away with work for last 2 weeks and returns on Sat. So at least it has been good timing on that front. Good luck with your test on Thurs, I'll keep you posted.

Tallyra Sun 19-May-13 17:44:11

you mean testing women to see if they've been smoking? I know it's a bad idea, but big brother or what? that's taking it too far!!

GooseyD Sun 19-May-13 17:48:16

Hi Gilster I didnt see you there! I just had an hsg and it wasnt bad.

Kitty I havent seen that article, what are they trying to do. I also hate to see anyone pg smoking i just found it different to see the intermal conflict in someone i know.

GooseyD Sun 19-May-13 18:15:27

Ah-ha, now no longer on my phone and can type properly! Thunder I almost reported a comment of yours by accident, and failed to get on the train I should have done, I think I should ban myself from mn when out and about! smile

Hi Tally - hope next week is better at work than last!

Bunny where are you on hols by the way? Is this the holiday in small apartment with lots of people?

Hi gil and welcome.

I agree- too big brothery testing pg to see if they're lying about smoking. Altho I know they say it is also to monitor if they're being exposed to carbon monoxide in any form.

goosey please don't report me!

I am so fed up. Honestly completely sick of this whole f***ing ttc game. Have lost all perspective and positivity. <flumps down onto floor in hopeless heap of misery>

Bunnygirlie Sun 19-May-13 18:23:05

Ugh to all the bumps grrrrrr

Sorry she got you happy, think she is on her way to me, knowing my luck she will get me on the plane angry

happylass Sun 19-May-13 18:29:26

Hi Gil and welcome. Make yourself at home!
Bunny I think it was Thunder who's been had by AF. Nobody got me apart from DP who can't seem to leave me alone today!!
So sorry you're feeling rubbish Thunder. Have some wine

GooseyD Sun 19-May-13 18:32:13

Ah Thunder it's just awful when it gets on top of you like that. First day of AF I avoid thinking about pretty much ANYTHING and retreat to the bath or some innocuous film with a brew or a wine. I don't know much about thyroid issues, how easy is it to fix blood levels? <she asks hence making you think about it all and contradicting own recipe for feeling better>

GooseyD Sun 19-May-13 18:34:59

Bunny you asked who is approaching AF/POAS... I am (prob Tues) but I don't expect anything as I don't think the HSG miracle works when you have a short LP

I'm surrounded!!! New couple just moved in two doors down, she has a huge bump. So that's two neighbours with bumps, one on either side, a colleague who squeals every time she feels a kick, a pg SiL and 2 pg friends close by, one pg with twins.

And that doesn't count the ones on facebook or those I know but don't have to see all the time.

My turn next, yes? grin

Thunder come with me down the yellow brick road of positivity!!!

<skips gaily along the yellow bricks, past the rows of bumps on either side seeing them only as a sign of what is to come in the barking household grin>

GooseyD Sun 19-May-13 18:42:12

And I thought it couldn't get more in your face than the family next door you described earlier! Did they literally move in this weekend? How ridiculous.

I think they moved in a couple of weeks ago but I only saw them both (and the bump) today. I was coming back from the corner shop with a box of tampons in hand as they were coming out of the house. Kinda rubbed it in a little!!

Thanks for the wine girls.

goose it's pretty easily treated- it's just a matter of working out how much synthetic hormone to take to get the levels right- and every change takes 6 weeks to monitor. So it's just more waiting around- like we all are doing here pretty much. It sucks. And it doesn't help that I should be having the baby that wasn't to be this month either.

barking they have sent you over the edge. It's a conspiracy to make you go la la I reckon. You keep skipping my friend- skip for your life....SKIP FOR YOUR LIFE!!

I'm skipping, Thunder, I'm skipping!!!!! grin grin grin

This is the cycle of positivity - nothing is going to knock me off my yellow brick road!!!! grin

Sod it barking I'm coming with you!
<dons sparkly shoes>

sconeoclock Sun 19-May-13 20:46:13

Just a quick hello, very busy weekend in the tea shop, knackered, just popped in quickly, will catch up later, hope you have all had a good weekend.

BlindKitty Sun 19-May-13 21:04:50

yes, I think carbon monoxidewill just alienate people with their midwives.

Re reportibg people, I think I might have done it the other day so sorry in advance!!!

barking and thunder I'm clearly hogging the pouffe of possibility! Come on, I'll squidge up for you, I'm brimming with optimism atm which will last precisely another week

Tallyra Sun 19-May-13 22:18:00

thanks for the positivity goosey. I'm hoping my job doesn't change right out from under me this week, so it could go either way. they are destroying my room in a bid to make better toilets for the pupils and instead of finding me another room or even creating another one using the extra large unused staff room they want to surreptitiously turn me from a repro tech into an office admin bunny. I wrote an email explaining why it was a bad idea and that I wanted more money if they couldn't be bothered to find me my own room and then promptly went home with food poisoning. So please keep your fingers crossed for me! What I would dearly love is to get myself sorted, bfp and mat leave out of there if they fuck with the job too much. Probably too much to ask for though.sad

Tallyra Sun 19-May-13 22:19:47

Hi gil. sorry for ignoring you. I'm not very good at keeping up to date with the thread and usually end up commenting on the last couple of posts, but I'm not doing it on purpose, it's the app's fault, honest!

Bunnygirlie Sun 19-May-13 22:25:29

Welcome Gil to our merry little gang!
Goose - I'm in Spain, with friends so no chance to DTD, not in the mood either, why should do it when DH wants to, he won't do it when we need to!!!
Oops yes I meant Thunder, damn typing on this stoopid tiny phone!
Barking-yuck you are surrounded. My colleagues wife had her baby last week and my friend will have her fourth on weds!!!

Think I have started spotting so AF will be here in a few days, that will make it 12 months of TTC! What a big pile of *^%#^<$$% Need to try and contain my meltdown till back at home sad

Gillster Sun 19-May-13 22:52:57

Thanks for all the welcome messages ladies, I'm pleased to have joined the group. There does seem to be a lot of babies/bumps about which is hard. I guess we probably notice it a bit more because it's something we want so badly. Have a couple of friends who tried for over two years and have either just had a baby or are pregnant so that gives me hope. We moved house last October and the previous owners left the children's slide and swings in the garden. I'm hoping to be able to put them to good use at some point in the non too distant future!!! Sleep well ladies. Let's have a positive week.

sconeoclock Mon 20-May-13 08:13:35

Morning berries, and welcome gill

Question for bbt charters, my temp has gone back below the line yesterday and today which is only 4 & 5 dpo, I though this didn't happen until AF was on her way but I'm not due for another 10 days.
Anyone else had this?

Morning all

blind the pouffe of poss is no place for me at cd2. You hang on in there a bit and I'll jump on in a week or so.

tally good luck today re the job. Let us know what happens. You're right in sticking up for yourself when they are pushing you around.

bunny it's 12months for me too. Its so crap. Don't delay the meltdown, deny it! With cocktails.

Come on lucky June!

MrsB00Mbastic Mon 20-May-13 08:54:03

Morning berries!

Hi gil, welcome to the sofa..or the pouffe, depending on your mindset and CD!

bunny, thunder 12 months here too. And I know how you feel about the ex-due date anniversary thunder, every so often I remember that I should would have had a 2 month old by now. Hurts when I see people with babies around that age sad I know there's no point dwelling on what could have been but sometimes it's impossible not to.

scone no idea about temps I'm afraid, but one of the experts will be along shortly I'm sure!

tally sounds like they're treating you badly - hope you manage to get something sorted! Sock it to em!

More essay. Had to cancel my place on a conference I was really looking forward to, and let my friend down because I have to write bloody essays instead of giving her a lift. Feel bad and wish I could organise my life a bit better but there just never seems to be any time. And then I feel even worse in case stress/bad work hour patterns is contributing to stopping us getting diffed. <big sigh>

SidneyBristow Mon 20-May-13 09:20:59

morning berries, sorry for those berries that AF has hunted down angry, it all seems so bloody unfair when there are bumps everywhere. I've started choosing to believe that they all tried for months/years in a bid to not feel so envious, but really most of the time I just want them to get out of my eyesight! Barking you have my sympathies re: your neighbors. At least you know your block is child-friendly, I guess...

Welcome Gillster, nice to have a new berry around! Good on you for snagging a toy boy wink Will keep my fx for you that info re: your polyp removal comes soon. If it's not too nosy, when did your GP initiate all your tests? I'm 38 and mine seems in no hurry to move things forward, she wants me to get to the 14 month mark. Not sure if this is normal, or if she thinks all we need is time...?

Barking I like your positivity; might need to borrow some in the coming days.

DH's "shag til we die" plan is still on; today is CD17 and we've DTD all but the first two days after AF left. Some days it's fun and others it's demoralizing. Here's where the universe is playing mindgames...for the first time ever since tracking ov, I've not gotten a Peak reading on CBFM, just Highs for about 8 days now. IC OPK strips have always been hard for me to read, but for a couple of days last week they were dark, but not as dark as control line, so...?? My cycles are extreeemely regular and I don't know if this is an anovulatory cycle (which would be disgustingly ironic), or if I'm just going to ovulate really late. Any ideas?

My period last month was really light, which I put down to it being the first time I"d used a Mooncup (not so uncommon from what I've read). I've taken several pg tests and all were neg. I can't see how it'd be possible, but if I am, I'm kind of concerned bc I had xrays a few days into this cycle. confused

MrsB00Mbastic Mon 20-May-13 12:48:50

Hi Sid, good effort on the shag marathon! I have no clue about the ovulation thing I'm afraid, but hope it's not anovulatory. If your cycles are regular it seems unlikely, maybe it's more an issue with the sticks than your cycle? Hope so and that the bonkathon has got you diffed! What Xray did you have? and did you tell the radiologist you were ttc? I can't imagine it would do too much harm at such an early stage in the cycle, I think the radiation is more an issue is more when cells are dividing rapidly once the egg's been fertilised, not before.

Also (I'm just nosy) why would a mooncup make your period lighter??

Barking sorry that you're literally surrounded. Hope you don't feel too ganged up on.

Just been out with the badly trained dog and a new frisbee for some fresh air/exercise, turns out she's scared of frisbees and ran away and hid for half an hour. Only slightly embarrassing in front of all the well behaved dogs in the park!

Gillster Mon 20-May-13 13:32:44

Hi Sid, yes it's good to snag a toy boy and he's usually got plenty of energy to DTD. Looking forward to his return on Saturday after being away for 3 weeks with work wink. In terms of going to the GP, I went at about the 10 month mark but told her we'd been trying for about 15 months. It wasn't entirely a lie as we hadn't used contraception for this amount of time but DH had been working away a lot so wasn't always around at the critical times. If you hadn't already seen your GP I'd have advised adding on a few months (advice given by one of my 38 year old friends). I think it really depends which postcode you live in as one friend in Liverpool got referred very quickly and was about to try IVF after 2 years of trying when she fell pregnant using clomid. Another friend in Hertfordshire really struggled to get seen quickly and would only have been offered IVF after 3 years! Both were 37/38. She went private in the end, paid for IVF and is now 13 weeks pregnant smile. How long have you been trying? Maybe worth pushing for some blood tests at least to start the ball rolling? I went to GP at start of Jan but blood tests take a couple of months, then sperm test takes a few weeks then it was a month before consultant appointment and still having final tests as a result of that. I think you've just got to be firm and insist on the blood tests as you can still be TTC when they go on. Since going to the GP initially I feel like things have gone fairly quickly but it's still nearly 5 months ago. Good luck!

SidneyBristow Mon 20-May-13 13:41:11

LOL Boom my dog is sometimes the embarrassing antisocial weirdo at our park also! To be fair I can see your dog's point; having something fly at her face that she's supposed to catch with her mouth doesn't sound like my cup of tea either!!

I did tell the radiologist we were TTC & she said that as long as the pregnancy is 28days old or less, it wouldn't be an issue at all. My knees were what was done, so that helped also.

I've just checked & I think I have EWCM so maybe will get a peak tomorrow? I'm torn between wanting this cycle to work, and wanting to follow through with a cervical smear they've set for me next month, which will have to be canceled if I get pg. As I said recently, so sick of TTC and all the ramifications it seems to have on every single aspect of my life!!

Not sure if using a MC actually lessens the flow, or if perhaps the amount is the same but just can't be gauged properly if you're using tampons or pads. Mine usually lasts about 3 solid days with 2 of spotting after; this time it was 2 days at a push with a day or two of spotting - much more manageable and I found it very comfortable & easy to use. Well worth the 20 quid, especially if it can double as an omelette maker wink

Frogcatcher Mon 20-May-13 14:00:28

Just lurking as usual & wanted to say yay for another mooncup convert! Be warned that my DP hates mine though esp when it's boiling in a pan in the kitchen so I try & do that when he's out!

Scone - are you sure you've ovulated already? Did FF give you crosshairs & did you have other signs such as positive OPK & EWCM? Are your cycles normally regular? You might have to wait till the end of the cycle to see the complete picture. There is also the holy grail of the "implantation dip" as your temp can drop as the egg implants but 4-5 dPO sounds a bit early. I got a slight dip (but not below coverline) to 36.49 at 7DPO before back up to hovering around the 36.6 mark for the next couple of days. Temp then shot up to 36.92 on 11DPO which was one of the main reasons I did an hpt that day. The rounding on your thermometer might also make the patterns hard to distinguish.

happylass Mon 20-May-13 14:48:48

Sid I'm pretty much in the same boat. Been going for gold on the DTD front this month (though not doing quite as well as you!) but suspect I haven't OVd sad. Usually OV on cd11 and did get an almost positive OPK then along with some EWCM. Cd13 now though and no temp rise or OV pains to report. Have OVd on cd13 a few times in the past but never later. Would be bloody law of sod if this cycle was anovulatory after all the effort we've put in! Fx for both of us.

Bunnygirlie Mon 20-May-13 15:48:06

Thunder and Boom - getting to 12 months really is horrid! I never thought I'd get to this point, seems so unfair sad Have to get up at 6am tomorrow for flight home so thinking cocktails may have to be avoided tonight!

So Berries, as I head towards month 13, to temp or not to temp, that is the question!

MrsB00Mbastic Mon 20-May-13 16:22:51

I've got essay fatigue. Stopping for a brew and a biscuit and a chinwag!

Happy ewcm and a nearly positive OPK in conjunction with loads of rudies sounds good though. Fingers crossed!

Ah Bunny end of the holiday so soon!? I say one last Screaming Orgasm is the way forward in all senses wink

For the temping, do you find that it makes any difference to when you dtd? If so, I think it's worth doing. If you're like me and Mr Boom, we do the baby dance when we have the chance, and frankly it wouldn't make the slightest bit of difference if I knew if when I ovulated because the Law of Sod says that I'd be on a run of nights or something when it happened! But maybe that's my sourpuss view because I have withered non productive ovaries I don't want to find out that I'm really not ov'ing.

12 months is rubbish. Maybe we should have a 1 yr ttc party to cheer us up! We could have Clomid cupcakes, sage tea and play Pin the Sperm on the Egg!

Ps frog you have to BOIL your mooncup? Was almost about to say I'll give it a go...!

Frogcatcher Mon 20-May-13 16:53:34

Only for about 10 min Boom & just the once a month! Not daily or anything...

sconeoclock Mon 20-May-13 18:28:10

I'm also at 12 months TTC, we should have a party!!

frog I got positive opk's, a temp rise and cross hairs on ff. Too early for an implantation dip and I have had 2 days of low temps now. Will see what tomorrow brings but stupidly asked Dr Google and am now worried that low temps after ov are caused by not enough progesterone.....

Tallyra Mon 20-May-13 19:47:09

12 months sucks, but wait til you hit 9 months after bfp 3 times with no baby sad I'm about to hit 12 months post bfp3 next month. right around the time I'm seeing the consultant.

Tallyra Mon 20-May-13 19:50:10

sorry, that was hugely over negative and one-upmanship like. sorry.

on another note, I also almost thought about using a mooncup but also not too enamoured with having to boil it. hmm

MrsB00Mbastic Mon 20-May-13 20:10:48

Oh tally hugs. Can't imagine how hard it must be to deal with three times over. A bit of negativity is only to be expected when life keeps throwing you lemons, you're usually so positive but sometimes the cracks are bound to show. Any time you want a moan about that bitch Mother Nature anything go ahead - I do it often enough and you lot are always here with wine and biscuit so must be your turn for some sympathy xxx

And yeah. Not really up for boiling my feminine hygiene products. You know DH would think it was a device for poaching eggs in or something (are we back to sperm omelettes..)?

Tallyra Mon 20-May-13 20:27:51

really boom? sometimes I think all i do on here is moan. but you lot are lovely and help me lots xxxxx

MrsB00Mbastic Mon 20-May-13 21:20:13

Nooo not at all! Well, I suppose it's a meeting point for a good chunter so we all do it, but I always think you seem very upbeat compared to me huffing and puffing away x

SidneyBristow Mon 20-May-13 21:21:51

Tally, you're not moaning, you're seeking support so that you can move forward the best you can thanks

Bunnygirlie Mon 20-May-13 21:27:44

Tally - I feel like all I do is moan too! But that's what this group is for really, communal moaning and support so our OHs and chums in RL don't get too fed up!

Saw another 7 bumps today grrrrrr moan moan moan

Boom - think I will see what my doctor says, guess no point temping if bit OVing anyway! Had blood test (my third) last Monday so going to call docs weds and see if I can get in to discuss results and my next step confused

BlindKitty Mon 20-May-13 21:39:54

Forget omelettes, it's all about frogs poached sperm these days!!!

thunder by then I will be on the sofa of pity so you'll have the pouffe to yourself!

tally that's what we're here for babs xx

SidneyBristow Mon 20-May-13 21:40:24

oops sorry hit Post too quickly!
FWIW I think anyone who's been through what you have has every right to whatever you need from the people around you to help you through. If you find even the tiniest bit of consolation or understanding from this thread, then I hope you post as much as you feel like!

Re: The Mooncup, yeah the idea of boiling it isn't great, but I think lots of people have bought a cheapie pot to do it in, so not like they give it a wipe afterwards and then boil the family's pasta dinner in it! ha ha. Personally I'd rather boil something 1x a month than constantly be cleaning myself for 5 days straight and deal with the hassle of toting around different sized tampons & pads, the angsty emarrassment of having to tell DH "hands off!" bc his hands are wandering too closely to a pad, etc. With summer coming up, the idea of something that's totally contained, leak-proof, and that doesn't require changing every 3-4 hours is a huge draw.

In recent years I've found tampons less and less comfortable, and bizarrely I didn't feel the MC at all apart from an initial awareness of it which wasn't painful or even uncomfortable, and didn't last. I changed it often but honestly could've gone a full 8 hours, so there never would've been the need to deal with it outside the house - and no leaks. None. I found the whole thing strangely fascinating and surprisingly neither touching it nor dealing with the boiling was enough to put me off - seriously, if you're the least bit intrigued, I'd suggest giving it a try! I want AF to stay away obv bc I want to be preg, but I have to say that dealing with the old hag is suddenly looking a lot less trying, now I have a MC. Ok soapbox speech over! grin

tally the whole point of this thread is so we have an outlet to moan as much as we want to at people who will understand!!!
I think we're all probably nicer to people in RL because we have a chance to rant in here grin .

I too feel like I do nothing but moan on here, but not this month, this month/cycle is POSITIVITY cycle!!! grin grin grin grin

And I am positive I will manage to continue to play on my phone in the bath and not drop it in the water...

scone I agree with ???? (forgotten who, damn app) you will struggle to see a pattern until you are temping to 2dp due to the margin of accuracy. Do not stress! Unless the same thing happens next cycle with the babymad thermometer in which case please wang me with a sausage and tell me to get stuffed wink .

Oh, and 12 months?! Pah! I see your 12 months and raise you another 6....
But I'm not complaining as it just means I'm further down the chain and closer to the holy grail!! grin grin grin grin

<ignores all logic and reason in the eternal well, since 2 days ago quest for positive thinking *at all times*>

Woohoo!! Still working!! grin grin grin

Am I convincing anyone yet? wink

<skips back along the bump lined yellow brick road whistling happily with hands behind her back>

MrsB00Mbastic Mon 20-May-13 22:15:07

Sid I know I'm being dim, you mean you used it instead of a pad when you had MC? Sorry if I'm prying too much, tell me to shut up if you want! Maybe I'm just lucky and don't get heavy AF not that she shows up often anyway but tampons work fine for me and I don't know they're there. It's more the hippy-chick side of me that thinks I should do something a bit more eco-friendly! Maybe I'll think about giving them a go. I'll need another special pot then eh? <secretly hopes that the Law of Sod will mean that as soon as a mooncup is bought it will not be required due to diffedness>

Frogcatcher Mon 20-May-13 22:25:25

Well after a vaginal birth boom you have to get the next size up apparently as you will have a bucket fanny stretched slightly shock

MrsB00Mbastic Mon 20-May-13 22:26:49

Sorry barking, got sidetracked into essay mid-post and missed you! You look very lovely in your Dorothy pigtails btw grin

MrsB00Mbastic Mon 20-May-13 22:30:52

Frog bwahahahaha! Chucking a mooncup welly up Briggate eh?! (If that's just a Yorkshire saying that makes no sense to anyone I do apologise!)

Evening my lovelies.

Moaning? Wot? On ere? Nah! Well never from me, honest- I am the very picture of demure positivity

<sticks too fingers in t'air and collapses onto the rug of rage with an angry scowl>

Me thinks there is an abbreviation mix up here... boom I think she's referring to mooncup when sid said MC, not miscarriage. I thought the same as you at first glance.

kitty if we are opposite-cycle buddies then we can set up an easy rota system between the pouffee if possibility, the sofa of self pity and the rug of rage, at various times in our cycle. We can share the cushion of confusion at other times- its pretty big.

barking while you're skipping down the avenue of bumps, you could hold your arms out as you go and Wang them all individually with a bratwurst.

I can imagine it already- the noise would go: diff diff diff diff diff diff diff diff diff diff

And they would all scowl and wipe sausage juice off their tops and that'd learn them.

Oh thank you Boom <smiles shyly and twists pigtails>

I'm quite tempted to try this mooncup lark. I have a problem with tampons now as some days are so light I need minis (which you have to hunt to buy) but some days I need regulars, but if I guess wrong which one I need and go too big I end up feeling like I've had my insides sucked up and all the moisture has gone forever <slight exaggeration possibly>. The problem with guessing too light is obvious... A mooncup would probably solve the issue. And I would save money on tampons and towels and not have to remember to have spares with me etc.

Hmm. I've only ever heard good things about them (apart from the friend who apparently had to ask her then boyfriend to retrieve hers when she got it stuck blush , I think I mentioned that the last time we had a mooncup conversation).

Oo, thunder YES!! Like when you run along railings holding out a stick so it goes ping ping ping ping ping ping....

<runs off with glee to find sausages>

SidneyBristow Mon 20-May-13 22:47:55

Yes, sorry, MC was referring to mooncup, not miscarriage! Should've realized that would be confusing but let my laziness get the better of me!

Prevusly I'd always used a combination of pads & tampons but other the mooncup. Was able to get away with just a pantilinerand the mooncup itself. No leaking - none - I was amazed.

LO I had the same thought about buying it and then needing to change sizes; c'mon Sod!!

SidneyBristow Mon 20-May-13 22:48:16

Argh meant LOL. Time for bed.

I think Lo is an underused but excellent expression actually sid - I appreciate you bringing it to my attention. How about we adopt it when announcing here in berrysville?

And Lo sid did do a typo and stomped off to bed.
And Lo barking did befanjo herself with said mooncup.

and Lo, thunder realised she talks an awful lot of nonsense so decides its time to go to bed too. But not before flashing her left breast at the shuttle in an act of crude defiance

sconeoclock Mon 20-May-13 22:58:04

Evening all, what a jolly atmosphere here this evening!
<hands out cumberlands for whack a bump>

I've stopped googling low temps and switched to searching for new cake recipes and icing nozzles instead, much more pleasing!

SidneyBristow Mon 20-May-13 23:08:32

And lo, Sid cannot get comfy in bed next to her DH bc she's annoyed from tidying up after him, but still knows she must DTD in 8 hours lest she continue losing her mind for want of a baby.

Pretty much sums it up! wink hey this could be fun, you might be on to something thunder!

MrsB00Mbastic Mon 20-May-13 23:20:12

Aaaah thunder it all makes sense now. Thought it sounded spectacularly unlikely!

Your yellow-brick-road-bratwurst-wanging image has just made me snort in an unladylike fashion.

MrsB00Mbastic Mon 20-May-13 23:24:00

Oh gawd, I have to stop spending half an hour to write a message, now I've missed a zillion messages..and Lo, most of them are from Thunder

MrsB00Mbastic Mon 20-May-13 23:25:31

Oooh scone please will you find a recipe for something involving almonds and booze. Almondy cakey goodness will take my mind off essays and wonky uteruses and where the f**k on earth AF has gone...

sconeoclock Mon 20-May-13 23:48:38

boom I make a mean almond and raspberry bake well that would be great with some booze in!

sconeoclock Mon 20-May-13 23:53:48

Grease & line baking tin, square or rectangular.

I use food mixer.

Base - 1 pack butter, 225g pain flour, 60g sugar.
Blend and spread into tin.
Cook in med oven until slightly golden.

Cover in raspberry jam and raspberries.

In mixer blend 4 eggs, 150g butter, 150g sugar, 150g ground almonds. Plus whatever booze you like.

Plop in blobs on top of raspberries and spread out, cover in flaked almonds and cook until springy!!

MrsB00Mbastic Mon 20-May-13 23:56:10

Woot! Thanks scone, that looks like something even idiot bakers like me could manage! I bet that would be fine with gluten-free flour too? (she says hopefully)

sconeoclock Mon 20-May-13 23:58:27

Should be fine just use plain flour you could even use ground almonds in the base too instead of flour.

I have a really really easy gluten free chocolate brownie recipe too...

MrsB00Mbastic Tue 21-May-13 00:02:31

Ooooh... that sounds dangerous. And yet I think we'd be doing the other berries a disservice if I didn't beg ask you to post it..

BlindKitty Tue 21-May-13 06:31:08

barking well I see your 18 months and raise you another 6!!! Must mean I'm even closer then!!!!

Well opks still -ve but temp gone up so think I might have ov'd on day after all. Wasn't quite sure whether opk on Friday was -ve or +-ve if I'm honest. Hence why now use digital unless I'm stupid enough to forget the reader on holiday

Hospital meant to be calling in June re starting iui. 1st day of af due 2nd June so guessing it will be July now grr. Other thing is dh is going to Glastonbury and guessing he won't do it sober so swimmers will prob be even more rubbish than normal!!'

PuppyMummy Tue 21-May-13 07:11:43

scone could u ice that and make it like a bakewell?

sconeoclock Tue 21-May-13 07:22:17

boom will post recipe for brownie later

puppy you could leave off the flaked almonds and drizzle with icing when cooled

My temp has gone back up above cover line this morning so am keeping my fx it stays up now!

It does, kitty, it does!! The IUI will sort you out. You'll be diffed by July grin .

SidneyBristow Tue 21-May-13 10:43:08

CBFM shows another high today confused to top it off I have weird crampy feelings going on which I'd otherwise attribute to ovulating, but I don't see how that's possible, if I haven't gotten a Peak reading yet this month? CD18 so much too early for AF.

All my bloodwork was normal; dildocam showed loads of follicles waiting to mature and that was only back in Feb so I don't understand what's happening. Cycle 11 here and want to crawl under a rock. The other day DH told SD how she'd nearly been given a different name bc he & his exW changed their minds 'at the very last minute'...really hard to get the image of DH in the delivery room with someone else out of my mind when I can't be sure it'll happen for us sad

I think this is where I ask if there's enough room on the pity sofa for me. Might be more comfy than under the rock.

Tallyra Tue 21-May-13 11:29:20

thank you everyone, I was pretty crap last night, then the internet went down so I went to bed, but you gave me a nice boost to try and be a bit happier today xxxxxx

Frogcatcher Tue 21-May-13 14:07:13

Oh Sid I feel your pain. I know I'm diffed but I still keep panicking in case it doesn't stick & we don't manage it again so I'm only ever a SM. DP has already made a couple of comments about when his ex was pg re doctors etc at which I totally freaked out. He thinks he's being helpful but I think he now knows to make no comparisons or even references to the last time. He's actually keen that we travel further to another hospital so our child isn't born in the same one as SS which I'm glad about.

For all short LP people there is a girl on the Jan 14 thread who went for a dating scan & found out she had conceived later than she thought on CD18 of a 27 day cycle so it is possible! She was literally about to go to the FC this month after trying for 2 years when she found out she was pg - there is hope berries!!

Gillster Tue 21-May-13 16:07:28

Well just had my HSG test which came back clear smile
Just have to wait for appointment for removal of endometrial polyp. They also said that as they had disturbed the lining of my uterus I should probably wait until next month to TTC. Looks like I'll be lurking around for a while yet!

Tallyra Tue 21-May-13 16:11:55

well that's one big tick in the box for you gil, congrats.
I'm curious, does the polyp cause ant other problems other than benign stopping you TTC? sorry, I'm being nosey here, throw a sausage at me if you like.

Gillster Tue 21-May-13 16:41:39

All they said was that it might be preventing implantation Tallyra Hopefully once it's gone it will be all systems go!

Bunnygirlie Tue 21-May-13 17:20:39

I'm back!!! Anybody here?!? <skips in, trying to keep eyelids open with matchsticks as been up since 5.30am>


And Lo! bunny back! Welcome back bunster.

gill excellent news today, it's great to get an all clear and done action coming up relatively soon that will help.

sid sorry you're feeling sad. Even though it's frustrating that there are no obvious fixable things found, it is good news to have normal bloodworm and healthy follicles. Honest! So difficult with DPs previous experiences though- I wouldn't cope at all well in that situation.

And Lo tally and feeling a bit better today! Excellent news. If you want someone to Wang, you can belt me with one?

Hi all else! I'm curbing the nonsense today.

gillster was that the hsg they said disturbed your uterus? I thought you were meant to get magically upduffed after an hsg as they've flushed the system for you?!

I got the letter for mine (this Thursday) and it states, underlined and in bold letters that I will not get the results of this investigation on the day.

Guess that's me told then. DP said 'dare you to ask'. Hee hee grin

Bunnygirlie Tue 21-May-13 20:29:34

Here's Bunny <screamed in a Jack Nicholson kind of way lol>

So what's with the rug of rage?!?

It's where I'm sat bunny


Bunnygirlie Tue 21-May-13 20:43:50

Whassup oh thundery one?

I'm now picturing our Berry palace with a massive comfortable sofa of pity, the pouffe of possibility and a red rug of rage in the corner! Plus a large well stocked fridge full of wine

CharmingCats Tue 21-May-13 20:44:19

And lo, cd48 nearly over.
Had another reflexology session today - it was great. I do hate my hormones, though.

Big berry love to you all.

happylass Tue 21-May-13 20:55:34

Evening ladies. Welcome back Bunny. Doesn't seem to be much PIMPing action going on of late. Who's next up? Still waiting to see if I've OVd this month. Had OV pains last night and a very small temp rise this morning so still not completely out of the game confused
Quick question. Does anyone know what to look for in jizz test results? DP had one about 6 months ago and was told all was well (above average apparently hmm). Just had the report on paper as need it for my GP but can't make head nor tail of it! Any ideas?!?

BlindKitty Tue 21-May-13 21:00:25

Barking really? They just told me (rather hastily) on the day. I think if its clear then you just get some period type-pain. However, my friend (the one who was sick) has blocked tubes and said it was excruciating so I think you'd get any idea by the amount if pain you have.

In my news, I called the fertility clinic today re imminent iui and I'm told it won't start until aug angry. After 2 years I feel like I've been waiting forever!!!! Wish we'd just gone private!!!

Make some space on the rug of rage!!!!

thundery is the right word bunny! Pissed off with the universe generally particularly with shitty af's arrival.

Good stuff cats and happy

Gillster Tue 21-May-13 21:13:59

Barking yes that's what they said but I can't see that they've agitated it that much. There was a small amount of spotting afterwards but nothing to speak of really. I think I will ignore their advice as DH back on Saturday after 3 weeks away plus I reckon I 'll be ovulating then too. Will probably go for the relaxed approach!

It seems strange that they won't give you the results. It seemed to me that they could see straight away whether there were any issues. There were three ladies looking after me and they were lovely and very keen to put my mind at rest. They even showed me the screen. I would just ask, it's not like you've got anything to lose given that you will have already left your dignity at the door! blush. I took a couple of pain killers about half an hour before so pain was minimal. Good luck!

Gillster Tue 21-May-13 21:21:54

You must be so hacked off blindkitty, to have to wait until August is rubbish. I think it's a bit of a postcode lottery on how quickly you get treated. flowers

kitty that's really rubbish sad .
Would you like a cushion to make you comfy on the rug of rage?
gillster I intend to ask if I can see the screen!! Then I'll get the proper results on the 19th June.

kitty I'll hope for a relatively low level of pain/discomfort then!! like I wouldn't anyway

Bunnygirlie Tue 21-May-13 21:47:20

cats reflex is great innit!

thunder and kitty sorry to hear you're on the ROR(rug)

TMI question - when the evil witch visits do you get a few days notice before she comes in full i.e. spotting, discharge, goo etc or does she just come full on?!?

Bunnygirlie Tue 21-May-13 21:48:10

<throws a cushion of comfort to the girls on the rug>

CharmingCats Tue 21-May-13 21:48:56

kitty that's shit! Is going private an option at this stage? Or will you stay on the path you're on? Iui sounds good, though. Have been reading about it convinced we'll be going that route or clomid.
Lo, barking looking forward to half term? Been doing small group sats this week. Hate it!

CharmingCats Tue 21-May-13 21:50:46

PS. Remember my stupid teacher? Imagine him organising a class trip?! There were two last week. Not sure which was worse, both spectacluar in the absence of any planning!

CharmingCats Tue 21-May-13 21:55:17

That is, shambolic.

BlindKitty Tue 21-May-13 22:02:46

bunny loving the new abbrieviation haha

No point in going private now, been waiting since feb, just got my hopes up for June but I should have known it would start later. Oh and as nice as she was she kept saying 'the last batch had just been called and you'll be in the next batch'. Quite annoyed that she referred to me as a batch. She did get a nurse to call me but I was with o e of my own patients do couldn't answer.

Will you have to put up with him again next year cats? What did you decide to do re teaching posts?

I can't wait until half term, although our week in the campervan has turned into coming home Thursday so DP can go to London to see Greenday and generally party for the weekend, and this weekend we've got to go and visit his granny in hospital as she's had a stroke sad . Also, I'm stressing about when I'm going to get my reports written, my planning done for first week back, and my uni work done for this stupid SENCO qualification I have to get.

<quick aside grumble at how the senco is the only job within teaching that you have to get a masters level qualification to do, yet there's no extra pay or acknowledgement in terms of being part of the leadership team, even though the code of practise suggests this should be the case. End of grumble>.

Bunnygirlie Tue 21-May-13 22:07:54

So we have ROR (rug of rage), the SOP (sofa of pity) and the POP (pouffe of possibility) lol

I'm going to ring my docs in the mornings, hopefully get appt to discuss my results and see what the next step is for me!

BlindKitty Wed 22-May-13 07:08:51

Good luck bunny

* barking* maybe dp going away will give you a chance to catch up on one of your million and one jobs? Every cloud? X

kitty I'm not remotely bothered by DP going away now, that was just hormones!! I'm going to get my reports done and some planning. Trying to work out whether there's any chance of getting in a quick visit to my family as well.

MrsB00Mbastic Wed 22-May-13 08:50:34

Uuurgh berries I'm so tired, was up late last night doing a presentation and just drove halfway to uni before realising that in my dozy state I hadn't put it on the memory stick and brought it with me! Idiot! So now I've had to drive 15 miles back home and no point leaving again until rush hour over, so necking black coffee and it's full fat caffeinated so will give my eggs the jitters until 9. BAH!

I'll do a proper catch-up later when I'm not so bleary, just popping in to grumble.

Good luck bunny with your doc today, hope you get an appt!

And hello everyone else! x

Bunnygirlie Wed 22-May-13 10:02:08

Oh no boom what a nightmare :-(

Thanks ladies, got appt this morning so will let you know what she says.

In other news, my friend had her baby this morning, HER FOURTH!!!!!!! As much as a I love her I am just so incredibly jealous!!! I just want one for starters!

Bunnygirlie Wed 22-May-13 10:10:20

Oh and the evil witch got me this morning sad angry so that's a full year of sadness now!

Bunnygirlie Wed 22-May-13 16:39:20

It's very lonely in here today <shouts hello into the darkness, helloooooo echoes back>

CharmingCats Wed 22-May-13 16:44:58

Grrrrr....really fed up. Had talked to work about covering a maternity cover ages ago. They said that the teacher hadn't decided. She's leaving at the end of the week and the student she had last term is covering the class!! Found out on the grapevine. No-one had the courtesy to even tell me. Just left me wondering. Ffs.
bunny so sorry about af and your anniversary. I'm only 2 months behind you and feeling very demoralised too. How did it go at the doc's?

happylass Wed 22-May-13 16:49:13

<helloooooo bunny>. Sorry AF got you. When's your appointment? I've got mine on Tues to discuss results of bloods I had last week and look at getting referred. Looks like we're pretty much at the same stage there. Although I may have lied exaggarated to GP a bit about how long we've been TTC. Fx things get moving for us here. Still no temp rise and really don't think I'm gonna OV this month. Just when I was feeling really positive too humph!!

Bunnygirlie Wed 22-May-13 17:44:32

Hey happy and cats

Grrrrrr cats that is pants!

Nothing wrong with a few white lies happy, my docs think I have been trying 16 months when it's actually 12!

Yep horrid day today, still shattered from travelling yesterday, then first day of AF does not leave me in a good state of mind not to mention the cramps that woke me at 6 this morn grrrrrr

Saw my doctor, she can't refer me till DH has results of his test so i'm annoyed that he still hasn't sorted that out! On the plus side the last bloods I had showed that I did ovulate so that's a relief!
However I mentioned to the doc about changing my address and she now wants me to register with a different doctor, cue tears from me! Felt like a right lemon but I have been at the same surgery all my life and I don't want to get to know another doctor, what if they aren't sympathetic to what I'm going through!

MrsB00Mbastic Wed 22-May-13 20:03:23

Back from my presentation, went ok. Now just bashing out another essay and then - it's DONE, no more work due in for a month or so! Woop! ignoring the fact that the next piece of work is a 10000 word dissertation

Happy keeping my fingers crossed you just missed your temp rise?

Charming How rude! They could have let you know!

Aw bunny sorry the witch got you and you have to shift doctors. At least you'll get to pick your new doc, maybe you could put out feelers and see if there are any particularly sympathetic ones that friends might have? Don't blame you for the envy, FOUR babies when all we want is one! I'm having my own green-eyed-monster moment. Was feeling reasonably cheerful until I got a text from a friend of a friend inviting me to her baby shower. Didn't know she was diffed. It's very sweet of her to think of me - probably because I invited her to my wedding party last year - but all I can remember is that the last time I saw her I was PG and she was drunk and rubbing my tummy yes, annoying and going 'aaaaw, you're having a baybee, I want one!' And now she's having one. And I'm not.
<flumps down on the ROR in a snotty, teary heap>

Quick, someone get me some positivity, STAT!

Tallyra Wed 22-May-13 20:08:14

I,m not sure how to do the positivity thing right now, but I can offer you wine and chocolate instead. well done for getting that handed in though. it sounded like a nightmare getting halfway there and having to turn back!
Sending you lots of hugs too...

BlindKitty Wed 22-May-13 20:10:04

bunny on the other hand, what if they're better??!! My gp didn't say I had to wait for sa before fc referral. The clinic just dealt with us both

Bunnygirlie Wed 22-May-13 20:40:14

Thanks boom Sorry to hear you are feeling as low as me.

I can't imagine what it would be like to have been pg and not ended up with a baby, obviously a few berries have had mcs which must be horrendous, but in a weird way at least you know you can make a baby, does that make sense?

Sorry but no positivity from me, I am a glass half full kind of person confused

Ah kitty I guess the new docs might be better, fingers crossed!

BlindKitty Wed 22-May-13 21:36:08

I agree bunny. Not that I'd ever wish for something as awful as a mc, but after 2 years of trying, i wish i just had sone hope that I might get pg one day. Can you tell I'm in the 2ww lol? I'm clearly no longer on the pouffe of possibility!!!!

I put a funny thing on fb today and it got hijacked by pg twin woman and another friend talking about when the babies arrive. angry.

And the hospital called and moved my HSG appointment tomorrow. It's now at an even more inconvenient time.

But hey, I'm being positive, so I am ignoring the comments on fb, and am focusing purely on the fact that the most important thing tomorrow is the HSG, so if work has to be inconvenienced and I can't speak to the ed pysch after she's seen the child in my class, then that's just how it has to be. So there. Hmm

I have wine and biscuit and brew and I'm still on my yellow brick road skipping along, pigtails flapping, wanging bumps with sausages as I pass.... <thud thud thud thud thud thud thud thud thud thud thud>

Who will join me on the yellow positivity brick road? Tomorrow I will have brownies with crunchie bits in them! grin too busy to make them today

Bunnygirlie Wed 22-May-13 21:52:45

Ooh kitty the 2ww, yuck!

barking Ugh damn fb, I wish I could give it up! 4baby friend just posted pics of new baby, where did the days go when you shared your news with friends before the whole world?!?

Remind me what the HSG is? Hope it goes well!

It's where they pump you full of blue dye and then x-ray you to check the dye is managing to flow everywhere it should (ie no tubes are blocked). But if I have regard to the bold and underlined statement on the letter I got, I will not find out the results of the investigation on the day. But I will be asking to look at the screen while they do it....

sconeoclock Wed 22-May-13 21:58:12

Evening all, great day today. Oupr tea rooms won an award!!! We won a trip advisor 2013 certificate of excellence given to the top 10% of all businesses on trip advisor globally. So chuffed!!!

In TTC news, temp still above coverline today, now 7dpo AF due in a week so half way through 2ww...

I'm dashing in and out (carrying my own ROR with me) but just to send sympathy to those who need it and fleetingly suggest we all pile in scone's amazing shop for tea and cake... Let's go!

Nice one scone!

Let go of the ROR thunder, you know you want to come thwack bumps on my yellow brick positivity highway!!

If anyone needs a laugh, this just made me laugh lots. But I'm in a stupid mood tonight grin.

sconeoclock Wed 22-May-13 22:12:03

barking LOVE it!!! Particularly the bee sting one!!

SO funny barking! I love it
Ok you've persuaded me to come yellow brick bumpthwacking with you


Re getting pg and having a mc being reassuring in that it's possible, from my point of view it was to start with. But now I'm in a more disadvantaged and worse state than I started with and dealing with a horrible experience. So yes and no to that one. But I do feel lucky to have ever even had the bfp. How messed up is that!

No takers for the scone party idea then....

Bunnygirlie Wed 22-May-13 22:23:03

Ah I see barking, hope all is well. Is this the next step after dildocam?

scone congrats, nice to read some berry good news for a change!

Hey thunder might need to borrow the ROR,back at work tomorrow and I know it's going to be hell!

BlindKitty Wed 22-May-13 22:24:50

barking tell me about it re fb. My friend (the one who has her profile of her bikini bump, who I limited her activity as was too upsetting). Posts on my statuses all the time so I have no choice but to be slapped in the face with it each time!!!

bunny they're kind of at the same step, I have my dildocam on the 19th June, just before my fc appointment with the consultant when s/he'll discuss the results of both and what to do (if both investigations are clear it'll be clomid).

MrsB00Mbastic Wed 22-May-13 22:42:19

Hahaha barking I actually nearly just wee'd myself with joy at the Wawa Skittletits one! I am GOING to get that into my essay!

SKITTLETITS, W. 2013. Methods of intra-essay procrastination and their outcomes. [online]

Dare me..?! grin

I dare you boom. Better put the URL too.?
bunny sorry it's been crappy. <hands over ROR> as I am now almost ready to graduate to the SOP

barking good luck tomorrow and tell us what they say. And share the yummy treats!

And LO I am off to bed. yup still sticking with the LO theme

happylass Thu 23-May-13 07:33:30

Morning Berries. Hope everyone is well just needing a few words of wisdom at this early hour. As I mentioned yesterday no temp rise for me this month despite a + OPK on cd11, OV pain on cd13 and lots of EWCM in between (this is when I always OV) Got quite upset about this morning and was just about to launch myself on to the ROR. Then randomly decided to PIMP for an OPK and instantly got a very strong positive! Guessing my body is trying again but how likely is it that it'll happen now? And if it does will AF still be due at the same time as usual? Am on cd16 of a 26 day cycle. Am usually regular as clockwork so this is very abnormal!

Morning happy. Not sure how definite it is what's coming next but I'd say dtd anyway?! Get all bases covered!

sconeoclock Thu 23-May-13 07:56:14

happy my temps don't seem to go that high either, I got positive opks and then a 0.3 rise and have had another massive drop in temp again today, back to pre ov temps.

I'm also regular as clockwork but got pos opk on different day this cycle to last cycle so I feel your pain!

How long have you been charting? Do you normally get a big temp rise?
Low temps could just be normal for you or it could be just a random weird cycle!

happylass Thu 23-May-13 08:31:23

Scone I've been charting about 6 months and whilst my temp rises at OV aren't huge they are still noticeable. But this month it hasn't gone up at all. Fortunately we DTD last night so will just have to wait and see what happens and try not to think about the 6 times we DTD last week that have probably gone to waste

sconeoclock Thu 23-May-13 08:40:10

Did anything happen last week stress wise that could have delayed ov?

GooseyD Thu 23-May-13 09:39:41

I havent done proper catch up, will do later. Happy have you travelled or been stressed?

I'm nestling on the cushion of confusion. Real upset with dp this week and havent slept properly for 3 nights. In fact Im a complete mess, feel like Im going to cry at work. And went to GP for advice about Clomid which Im meant to be starting today - she was really shocked that the gyny had given me 3 month prescription with zero monitoring and no advice re when to dtd. She used to work in a fertility clinic and said sweeties without monitoring can waste your chance as cant see whether dosage is right, or can result in multiple pg. Shes going to contact them to ask for monitoring and said up to me whether to stsrt this cycle or not. Just feel all trembly and not in a fit state for meetings etc. Sorry to rampage in and be all me me sad

sconeoclock Thu 23-May-13 09:45:32

Hugs goosey perhaps start taking it and hopefully you should get monitored pretty quickly.

I'm sure others here cash pass on the advice they were given when they started taking it.

GooseyD Thu 23-May-13 10:03:18

Not sure its even a good time to take them when im in this state and feel so let down by dp. Really trying to pull myself together but have now shut myself in toilets.need to get a grip.

sconeoclock Thu 23-May-13 10:05:41

Perhaps you should go home? Or work out how many hours you have to get through before you can go home and concentrate on 1 hour at a time.

GooseyD Thu 23-May-13 10:28:53

Thanks scone, youre right just 6 and a half hours to go if I leave early. Big congrats on the prize!!

Kitty sorry to hear about the wait for iui.

Who was it at beginning of thread who was wondering whether to wait before seeing fc to give more time to try naturally? Did you decide what to do? Been meaning to say, sure youve thought of it but in case, if youre thinking of waiting make sure you check out cut off ages for treatment, seems to vary in different parts of country.

sconeoclock Thu 23-May-13 10:32:35

goosey when I have days like that I give myself a little reward every hour, like a piece of chocolate or a nice coffee, gives you something else to focus on and 1 hour seems much more manageable than 6!

If you were going to start clomid today I'm assuming that AF got you on Monday?

happylass Thu 23-May-13 10:41:34

Sorry to hear you're having a rough time Goosey. Love Scone's idea of a treat every hour though!
Haven't been particularly stressed lately although did have a very nerve wracking spanish oral exam 2 weeks ago plus been incredibly busy in work so maybe that's it. Can't wait to get home and pimp for an OPK again just out of curiosity! Been looking back at my charts and there's been a temp rise around this time on a few occasions along with the earlier one that I've taken to be OV. Maybe this isn't the first time this has happened confused

sconeoclock Thu 23-May-13 11:01:59

happy perhaps you always ov on the later temp shift which may mean you have been missing little eggy each month? Perhaps your body takes 2 attempts each cycle then.

happylass Thu 23-May-13 11:27:14

That's what I've been thinking Scone! Hope we havent been mis-timing shag week all these months. Saying that had a progesterone test a few months ago on what I thought was cd 7 and showed that I had OVd. If I'd got my dates wrong I'd have only been 2/3 dpo and not sure the levels would have been quite so high then?? Hate all this confusion and guess work arrrrgh!!

GooseyD Thu 23-May-13 12:16:43

Happy my progesterone was high enough to be ovulatory - around 42- on 3dpo so dont rule it out! Was it you who had +ve opks a few days in one month before? Cb leaflet says you should tell doc if get lots of +ve readings - i remember that as wondered how you'd find out as normally dont do anymore after the +ve.

happylass Thu 23-May-13 12:44:59

Not me Goosey. Never noticed any + OPKs after the initial one but then I've never tested this late in my cycle before. If I am OVing on cd16 then my LP is only 10 days sad <scuttles off to eBay to stock up on the OPKs>

Bunnygirlie Thu 23-May-13 12:55:09

and Lo I am hiding under the sofa of pity with the throw of sulkiness! The combination of back to work, AF, tiredness and babies everywhere has thrown me into a dark dark mood. I swear my colleagues must think I'm some sort of wierdo with these moods that take over once a month!

Goosey that sounds rubbish! HUGS! Sorry to hear your FC is a bit pants and having trouble with OH! My DH and I fell out yesterday as I was taking my mood out on him and he got well narky!

I should be back on the diet after my holiday but to get through this week I need some treats, a lovely pastry for my afternoon snack, and its not just an ordinary pastry it’s an M&S pastry wink

SidneyBristow Thu 23-May-13 12:55:34

Goosey I hope you're feeling a little better thanks You can do this! Only a few hours to go. The berries will pull you through. Whatever's going on with your DP will be much easier to manage once you start sleeping again. <<hugs>>

I think I might be the one you're remembering - my GP told me a couple of months ago to come back in 4 months. She didn't fully explain why, but it could've possibly been to give me enough time to be referred to a neurologist, see him/her and follow through on whatever their advice was, before seeing the GP again. (Actually saw neuro almost 2 weeks ago & he said I was perfectly fine & he'd happily sign off on my fitness to become pg, so all that's handled at this point). Or she could've been relying on that old nugget about how 85% of couples get pg within a year, and 95% within 2, so pushing out the referral date would give us enough time to catch up with statistics. Who knows. She was kind of dismissive and I left there feeling pretty low.

My DH has 2 children already, so we won't qualify for NHS fertility treatment; we'll have to go private if necessary, at least once the NHS has taken us as far as they can. Which given my age, going private will be painful financially, but time is becoming a greater concern.

GooseyD Thu 23-May-13 12:55:51

Someone just posted an encouraging story from another thread re someone with short lp getting pg, and according to my fertility book 10 days is short but can be ok. That would be both a relief and frustration to find out youd been missing right days i imagine!

SidneyBristow Thu 23-May-13 12:59:12

This cycle (#11), DH & I have been DTD daily, up til 2 days ago when I got my umpteenth "High" and felt kind of "what's the point?" We didn't DTD that night bc he was tired, and yesterday we both were shattered so didn't DTD then either. Now of course I'm plagued by feeling like even though it's CD20 here, perhaps #18 and 19 were the days when we'd have gotten pg, if only we'd tried. DTD daily can feel v base sometimes (hard not to feel like a mare being inseminated instead of like a woman trying to start a family) but at least it gives the peace of mind that you could literally not have missed the "right" day by accident.

So, no clue how this cycle will pan out, but I think if we wind up in cycle #12, we'll DTD daily again, drop the IC OPK sticks (which have never given me strong positives, so wondering if they're right/CBFM wrong or vice versa, or if I just need to try a diff brand), stick with the CBFM, and add temping. And I'll be going to the GP if cycle #13 becomes a reality, and she can stuff her "wait 4 months"!

As I type this, the newborn next door is crying sad he was an IVF baby apparently and the labor was v rough, forceps and full episiotomy required....even with all that, I am super envy when I hear him!

GooseyD Thu 23-May-13 13:38:49

Standing outside Boots angsting about whether to buy the clomid. if i do and it all goes pear shaped with dp what then? does it expire? Would i get another prescription in future if so? is it fair to carry on ttc when things are so unsure? im just so tired i cant think and i dont want to talk to friends as dont want to turn them against dp if all works out ok. why now? weve beem together 8 yrs.

GooseyD Thu 23-May-13 14:04:44

Sorry, just re read that post and its so over dramatic. Im sure everything will be ok. I just need to remember af hormones plus lack of sleep equals 0 perspective and rationality, I'll kick myself tomorrow if I let that sneaky aunt flo get to me.

Hi all.

goosey get the prescription. Just get it and put it in your bag and deal with one thing at a time.

happy it sounds like regular shags throughout would better cover all the bases? I thought that dtd ever other day throughout the month was best- isn't there some disadvantage with dtd every day or have I misunderstood that?

I am going au naturel this month- no opks, just going to try and dtd as much as poss between day 10 and.... Dunno 20?! Will feel weird no pimping this cycle....

sconeoclock Thu 23-May-13 15:30:53

goosey was the argument that bad that you might split? Or just everything got on top of you and your hormones overreacting? Does do know your upset or is he oblivious?
Hope your ok

happylass Thu 23-May-13 15:49:05

Thunder we do try to DTD regularly through the month (could never manage every day!) with an extra effort during shag week. A combination of being busy/knackered and DP working away means we don't always succeed though and this is probably the time of the month where we fail! Gonna keep a closer eye on things now I know that something maybe amiss!
So, enough about me. Feel like I've been hogging the thread all day! How's everyone else doing?
Hope things get sorted with your DP this evening Goosey. It's tough with all the AF hormones flying around plus the extra stress of TTC flowers

happy I know exactly what you mean. We're not that good at dtd loads anyway, but when I think shag week is over the frequency definitely drops off! Maybe not doing opks this month will help me in that respect.

Tallyra Thu 23-May-13 16:47:01

guys, I'm reading all of your 'every other day' stories and literally feeling tired. We manage it about twice in shag week and lucky if we do it any other time in the month. how do you do it? dh I'd on silly shifts, but even when he's on 'normal' days one or other of us is too tired or dh falls asleep on the sofa and turns into a grump monster I wouldn't even suggest it to. shock

tally we managed it twice last cycle! He was away, I was ill, we were away with friends in a youth hostel and then he was ill and I was so 'what's the point?' over the 8 day LP anyway that it just didn't happen as I wasn't pushing it. We usually manage a bit better but we've tried the 'every other day' way a few times (mainly before I realised the short LP issue) and never managed to completely keep it up though the month. There's usually a concentration of effort during shag week though.

goose was the argument really that bad or do you have hormone glasses on and might see it differently in a few days?

In my little world I had my hsg today. Not a very pleasant experience but not hugely painful, just very uncomfortable when she couldn't get the tube to go round the corner. She tried inflating the balloon but it wasn't in far enough so had to push around a bit more. I saw the screen and she said both sides seemed to be clear so that's good news. She said the consultant would be looking at the xrays in far more detail and would talk to me at my appointment.

I've had what feels like horrible period pain all day since. Almost doubled over. Maybe I'm being melodramatic and I just need a good poo blush .

tally we never manage to dtd eod either. It's a mahoosive effort to do it lots of shag week too. This cycle once af buggers off we have both resolved to just try as much as we can (and hope that is more than twice like this last cycle!)

barking excellent news on it all looking clear but poor you on the af cramps. Can you have a big old poo and see if it helps?!

Tried that option thunder and it hasn't helped sad .

Now scaring myself silly on Dr Google as it isn't supposed to hurt afterwards unless you've got an infection. It bloody hurts.

Get off dr google immediately. Dr google is actually an idiot.

What did they say there today? Can you give the clinic a quick call to put your mind at rest? It doesn't sound that surprising to me that there is some cramping after all that prodding and poking but I don't know about this stuff so can you ring someone who does?

Oh and take some good drugs for the pain?

MrsB00Mbastic Thu 23-May-13 18:39:21

barking the leaflet they gave me said period-like cramps were a likely after-effect!

MrsB00Mbastic Thu 23-May-13 18:47:16

Ooops pressed post too soon!

In common with all the not-eod'ers, we definitely don't manage to do the deed as much as some of you! It's all a bit half-hearted really, I've given up any hope of getting pg before getting some sort of help. Day 44 here, and I think we've only dtd once in the past week..although really, is there any point still worrying about it this far into a cycle?

goosey I'm so sorry you're having a rubbish time. Sure the hormonal craziness isn't helping your situation. I'd get the clomid and get started on it personally, but of course it depends on how things are with your DP. Hope things get better on that front too, sending you hugs. We're all here if you need to rant x

Sid sympathy on the newborn neighbour!

Getting ready to go out for a post essay-hand-in bottle glass of wine and some gossip with a thankfully child-free friend! Hooray!

GooseyD Thu 23-May-13 19:02:16

Hi Berries, thanks for all your support today - I think as a result of my rants at you lot I managed not to blubber to my colleagues for which I am truly thankful! <crawls out from under the sofa of pity and sits on it, one step better>

Scone and Barking you are right, it probably is largely hormonal glasses - I hate the way AF can just turn me into a monster. In general I've learnt to do no thinking or talking (and I should probably add no internet posting!) about anything but the easiest and most pleasant things while the I'm sunk in that PMT pit of rage, paranoia and tendency to melodrama! Just super bad timing.

Bunny hope you and your OH have a better evening tonight.

Sid - sorry to hear you've got unsympathetic GP. Good idea to go straight back. Hope you won't ever get to the stage of having to look at private treatment. Is it really more expensive if you're older?? I'm 38 and if NHS don't have funding to monitor the Clomid cycles we're thinking of going private for that bit.

Thunder - I think the every day versus every other day argument is meant to rest on sperm test (according to internet!) As in if he has high count and strong swimmers or whatever they don't need a day to recoup between. I was thinking of going to Dr Google tonight to try and work that one out. Not that we ever get anywhere near ed or eod either Tally!

Barking sorry to hear your HSG was painful - cramps any better yet?

GooseyD Thu 23-May-13 19:07:04

Hi Boom, took so long typing my post I missed yours completely. Thanks for the sympathy and hugs, it really does help to rant here!!
Envy you your child free friend, they are rare to come by these days! Have a lovely evening, is it sunny there?

Cramps no better. An hour ago was doubled over in pain and called the doctor. He said to take more painkillers and see how it was in an hour. It's no better. Was supposed to be going straight from work (parents meeting about a residential trip) to meet DP and a bunch of friends at a restaurant but called him to say I was going home. He said he was coming home if I wasn't well and has now topped up the painkiller supply, microwaved the wheat bag and is lighting a fire smile .

Still in a lot of pain and shivering. Wheatbag helping slightly. Was in tears by the time I'd walked from school to my car as it hurt so much. I don't get period cramps this bad confused .

GooseyD Thu 23-May-13 20:10:01

Poor you! What did the doctor say to do if no better in an hour?

Call back. But it'a the emergency hours now and I don't want to make a fuss.

GooseyD Thu 23-May-13 20:41:05

hmm... did he know that it would be in emergency hours in an hour's time? If so he must have meant to call anyway right? Did he say what he'd want you to do if pains hadn't gone?

Gillster Thu 23-May-13 20:53:26

Compared to my own experience of HSG on Tuesday, this sounds horrific Barking. I took 2 pain killers beforehand and hardly felt anything afterwards. They told me to contact them if I had prolonged bad pains or a discharge as it would indicate an infection. I wouldn't worry about making a fuss, just call docs again if no better. Hope you get sorted soon. flowers

He said it would be the emergency number after 6.30 but he'd leave notes on my file to say he'd spoken to me. He said if it hadn't subdued or it got worse they would take a look at me.
It's still really painful, and moving at all makes me cry out in pain. It's just about tolerable if I stay totally still. DP says I look pale and suggested he should take me to hospital. I think I'll call the out of hours number for the doctor.

Tallyra Thu 23-May-13 21:16:49

is it worth calling NHS direct? it sounds very painful, possibly similar to the cramping aftery erpc, when they fiddled around after the mc. I would call for some proper advice if it's worse than you have had before. sad

BoodIeBee Thu 23-May-13 21:20:26

barking when I had my HSG the other week they told me that if I had pain in the evening I should go to A&E due to risk of infection. Not trying to worry you but you need to get looked at ASAP. X

I called the 'out of hours GP cooperative' which is where you get directed to when the GP surgery is closed. A lady took my details and is calling me back. This is WAY worse than any period pain I've had before. 2 paracetamol and 2 ibuprofen haven't touched it at all and it's too painful to walk.

CharmingCats Thu 23-May-13 21:32:40

barking hope you're on the phone or on the way to hospital. Take care, even if it's nothing, it's best to get it checked.

Would any of you be interested in my cbfm? I've used it for one cycle, but as it's now cd50 and it's only suitable for cycles of up to 42 days, I don't think it's for me. I also have an unopened pack of 20 sticks that I bought for next cycle. And lo, nothing. Make me an offer and I'll post them.

CharmingCats Thu 23-May-13 21:33:27

Sending good vibes barking

GP called back. She said they need to look at me. Got an appointment at 11.30.

Cats I'd be interested in the sticks if you're selling then cheap, already got a cbfm smile .

Bunnygirlie Thu 23-May-13 22:08:55

sid DTD every day shock we can barely do it every month lol

goose how you doing? 

barking oh gosh hun, hope the pain eases off soon. Hugs!

DH and me ok today, he has made his next appt for jizz test which is luckily after shag week! 

I have been vile at work today, hopefully my colleagues just think it was first day back blues rather than just being a moody cow!

BlindKitty Thu 23-May-13 22:15:03

barking I know I said it wasn't painful but then I did take co-codamol. I also didn't feel well enough for work the rest of the day. Felt absolutely fine the next day though.

Extreme pain, discharge or high temp though you need to call the doc x

CharmingCats Thu 23-May-13 22:16:05

bunny glad oh has got test booked. You've done today, try not to worry about colleagues. They probably pick up on it less than you think.
Barking, I've pmed you.

BlindKitty Thu 23-May-13 22:17:01

Oh just noticed you have called. Hope you're feeling better xxx

Bunnygirlie Thu 23-May-13 22:36:35

Thanks cats

Frogcatcher Thu 23-May-13 22:36:41

barking I had an infection after my LLETZ procedure thingy so whilst not the same imagine its caused just by foreign objects going near your bits. It wasn't painful but there was bleeding. Dr gave me some antibiotics that cleared it up quickly so sure you'll be fine once you get to see doc. They were strict no drinking ones though which was irritating as had to stay sober on a ski hols. Hope you feel better soon. flowers

Bunnygirlie Thu 23-May-13 22:44:12

Ooh pressed post too early.

I'm sure I'm just paranoid and nobody really cares lol. Just like I feel like the world is getting at me with bumps everywhere and babies/TTC being on every tv show I watch when it's actually just because I'm more aware of these things coz it's on my mind!

barking You poor poor thing- I hope they help you at the appointment and you can get some rest. How awful. Please let us know how you get on.

Good job mr bunny !

happylass Thu 23-May-13 22:49:41

Barking sorry to hear you're in so much pain and hope the docs get it sorted for you. Please let us know how you get on. Sending big hugs.

sconeoclock Thu 23-May-13 22:55:13

barking hope all goes well at docs, hopefully just antibiotics.

I got an infection after a colposcopy I had which was very unpleasant but antibiotics worked quickly.

8dpo here and another massive temp drop today below the cover line this time, so hoping for a big leap in temp tomorrow or I fear I could have low progesterone issues which could give low temps. Although I think my temps are white high anyway compared to others, my previous ov and post ov temps range from 36.5 to 37.1c

Oh and had to share something that made me chuckle today, was looking at acronyms and found out the EWCM stands for egg white cervical mucus and not eeewwww cervical mucus! as I have been reading it!!!!

sconeoclock Thu 23-May-13 22:57:11

And with regards to DTD my dh has a very high libido so we usually DTD every other day or every 3 days but every day for 3 days in shag week. We would do it every day if it were up to him!

Bunnygirlie Thu 23-May-13 23:10:30

Crikey scone you have your work cut out for you then, must be knackering! Have you been together a long time?

sconeoclock Thu 23-May-13 23:21:46

We've been together 8 years although to be fair its only in the last couple of years that we have found our stride so to speak!

sconeoclock Thu 23-May-13 23:22:09

Oh and berocca works wonders lol

Tallyra Thu 23-May-13 23:27:44

might have to try that then scone!

Still waiting at the out of hours GP for my 11.30 appointment. Wish I'd just gone to bed with loads of painkillers and booked an appointment in the morning sad .

Being admitted to hospital. Guess I wasn't making too much fuss after all hmm .

happylass Fri 24-May-13 01:13:12

Oh no Barking poor you! Take it easy and hope you get better soon xx

sconeoclock Fri 24-May-13 06:55:09

barking poor you, thank goodness you called them. Hope you are feeling better today

So yesterday (8dpo) I had a massive temp drop and today it has shot right up to my highest reading so far. Really trying not to read too much into it, I'm probably just coming down with something....

BlindKitty Fri 24-May-13 06:57:09

scone we also do it every day / every other day during shag week but tbh think neither of us want to unless its the weekend. I really don't know how he manages to perform tbh! When not on shag week it's weekend mornings

bunny I know! Bump central! Sainsburys = bumps, FB= bumps, work = bumps, coronation street = 2x bumps, game of thrones = bumps... not that I've noticed or anything lol!!!

BlindKitty Fri 24-May-13 06:57:39

Oh and I hope barking is feeling better xxxx

Gillster Fri 24-May-13 07:31:06

Hope you're feeling much better today barking and that you don 't have to stay in hospital too long.

I made the mistake of looking at the Amazon reviews of OPKs last night. Pretty much every review was "these sticks are amazing, used them once, got smiley face and now I'm pregnant". Massive hurumph!

sconeoclock Fri 24-May-13 07:32:52

gillster I bought internet opks that didn't work for me. 2 days of positives with clear blue opk and nothing but negatives with internet ones on the same days

happylass Fri 24-May-13 07:38:20

Morning Berries. Last day in work for me and all you other teacher berries before a week off grin
Scone your temp dip is the right time for implantation so FX for you.
My temp went up by a massive 0.5 this morning. Be interesting to see if it stays up now and if AF arrives any later.
Out in town with work tonight though and staying in a hotel room with a colleague. Going to have to be very subtle about taking my temp in the morning!
Have a good day all!

Morning all. I struggled with Internet opks too. I did get some positives but I found them such a faff to do and then interpret. Love the cb digi ones- fmu and no mistaking a smiley face or not.

Am I being daft going cold turkey this cycle?

barking how are you doing lady? It's good you are in good hands now but what a palava you poor thing.

GooseyD Fri 24-May-13 07:56:56

Morning all

So glad you got seen last night Barking, I hope you're well on the way to feeling better now. How are you?

Bunny glad that OH is doing his bit!

Scone I don't know why this should be the case, but my first two or three cycles charting my temps were all over the place. Partly changing thermometer, partly having a sip of water or going to loo an hour before waking again and taking temp and such like (for me has an effect, especially the water - now I always take temp when I first wake and adjust for time if way different), but partly it just seemed to settle down. I also got used to the effect that restless nights or alcohol and other things have on my temps and some mornings I just have to discount the reading.
Having three such weird and apparently annovulatory charts and then all going regular suddenly actually made me wonder whether I was mentally controlling my temps through sheer force of wanting to see ovulation!! - until all blood tests and switching to CBFM instead of OPKS confirmed same pattern. The book I read re charting and fertility also said it normally takes a few months to get decent charts - don't really understand why it should, and it sounds like others here got the hang quicker, but what I'm saying is I really wouldn't worry too much about the random temps until you've done a few cycles. Wow, that explanations was longer than intended!

So, things were calmer in the Goose household yesterday. We decided to wait til next month to take the Clomid as I have been in just such a state physically and emotionally and don't want to start taking drugs that are prone to giving you 'mood swings and depression'! As DP says, if my mood doesn't improve, no amount of pills is going to help us! smile Also, as GP is adamant we need monitoring at least for first cycle I want to see if she can work her magic and get it funded, otherwise we'll go private if can afford it. For my part too, I just want to see that we make up properly and anyway, not "just" because of meds and ttc. Rubbish timing for worst argument we've had, but on the bright side my LP is so short AF will be round again in a flash grin.

Waves at Kitty

Gillster Fri 24-May-13 07:57:42

Oh I am getting my smiley faces every month with the CB ones it was more a point of the instadiffers writing all the positive reviews! Grrrrr.

GooseyD Fri 24-May-13 08:00:57

and Gilster, Thunder and Happy! smile

sconeoclock Fri 24-May-13 08:15:17

Thanks goosey weird temps are probably just normal for me! I take temp as soon as I wake up, time can vary by half an hour but I never wake up in the night to drink or wee but my temps have been a bit all over the place!
Oh well, AF due Wednesday and I'm regular as clockwork so not long to wait. Got a very busy weekend of work to keep me occupied and half term next week usually means we will be busy!

Bunnygirlie Fri 24-May-13 08:23:39

Crikey barking are you ok my lovely?

Bunnygirlie Fri 24-May-13 08:25:05

goose glad things are a tad better in the goosey household :-)

Frogcatcher Fri 24-May-13 09:31:22

barking any news? We're all worried here & thinking of you! Hope you are just catching up on sleep now.

scone my first month temping was crazy but second when I got updiffed looked way more normal & that's when I switched to the BBT thermometer too. I'll post the link to the charts so you can see & other berries can be nosy too as I don't mind!

Oh & even on a pg thread the instadiffers annoy me! There are people on mine who are like 'ooh whoops pg again with no 5' or 'wow my husband just held my hand once I'm so fertile'. These people have no idea what an OPK or BBT is - thank goodness for the elderberry grads!

Frogcatcher Fri 24-May-13 10:04:04

Here's the link scone:

Chart craziness!

MrsB00Mbastic Fri 24-May-13 12:35:29

Barking you poor thing! You must be due some very good karma soon for all this. Hope they've sorted you out and you're feeling a lot better, let us know how you are when you can, we're all thinking of you. Need an icon for [grapes] xxx

Goosey glad things seem calmer. A good decision I think not to pile more stress on top of what you're already dealing with, and hopefully you and your DP will be in a better place next cycle. Maybe your decision will give you both a break from the intensity of ttc so you can work through anything else that's causing friction. xxx

Gillster agree about the reviewers, instadiffers shouldn't be allowed OPKs! Similar to when I went through my phase of trying every supplement under the sun, the Holland and Barrett website had loads of people saying 'ooh, I took Vitex once and now I'm having twins' grrrr! And ditto frog with the pg thread. I think even when I'm updiffed I'll have a hard time dealing with people who didn't struggle and think it's all so easy.

Going to join all you teacher berries on your week off - not half term but I've got a reading week with no imminent uni work and no placement at the hospital - just a couple of shifts at the pub and other than that I'm freeeeeee grin grin grin Didn't manage to have my booze last night (friend was playing in a tennis match and it went on a lot longer than expected) so tonight's the night for wine hooray! Even the omnipresent bumps seem to have become less obvious (apart from the smug bump-rubber with two other children at the supermarket but I pretended not to see her). On the babymaking front we're still waiting for AF so I can have my hycosy but having heard about poor barking's experience I'm not sure I want it any more sad

Tallyra Fri 24-May-13 14:01:35

bloody he'll, bumps on GOT? we're a few episodes behind. I'll prepare myself. by the way, my claim to fame is that u lived with the woman who played Ros in halls at uni!

Tallyra Fri 24-May-13 14:15:12

barking, I'm so glad you went to hospital. I can imagine the pain, and it needs sorting. I hope you are ok, let us know?! xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Gillster Fri 24-May-13 15:29:39

Is anyone else constantly checking their phone today to await news on Barking? Hope she's OK.

I am I am!

barking sending lots of love x x

SidneyBristow Fri 24-May-13 16:02:40

barking fx they are taking good care of you, sending get well quickly vibes to you xxx

How's everyone else doing today? We're nearly there! (wineo'clock of course)

I for one am knackered and wished I had a week off next week but will definitely make do with a long weekend for starters. I shall be mostly lazing about and limbering up for shag fortnight....

Frogcatcher Fri 24-May-13 16:23:05

I'm constantly checking too & I'm only supposed to lurk now! I'm thinking barking may have run out of mobile battery rather than be deliberately keeping us in suspense. Fx and [chocolate]

Tallyra Fri 24-May-13 16:33:38

I've just been given a bottle of wine as a thanks from a teacher for printing work that was called up for moderation. I'm really flattered but teetotal so a bit annoyed. anyone want it? dh will probably drink it tonight though.

hope barking is ok!!


MrsB00Mbastic Fri 24-May-13 16:45:08

Oooooh me too! Just found out I've passed my last ever exam before graduating, it was a tough one so need to celebrate in boozy style! I'll swap you for some schloer if you like tally

Well done boom! Excellent stuff. You have the wine- youve definitely earned it!

MrsB00Mbastic Fri 24-May-13 17:00:16

Shall we share thunder? Can't have a celebration drink all alone!

Bunnygirlie Fri 24-May-13 18:14:53

Still no news from barking? I'm worried sad

Nearly wine o'clock yay! Got friend round in a bit so won't be back on till laters, keep the SOP warm for me smile

Tallyra Fri 24-May-13 18:54:09

Definitely deserves many wine wine wine grin

schloer sounds pretty good too - asda pizza in the oven and nothing to drink except squash or evil wine .

BlindKitty Fri 24-May-13 19:12:40

Happy Friday berries!

Have we still not heard from barking? Hmmm not like her not to be on all day or more than an hour haha hope you're ok babs x

tally did you mean game of thrones earlier? I LOVE it!

thunder re you going cold turkey, each time I've tried to go without opks I always end up stressing and wishing I'd just done them. I'm stressing now because I used cheap ones in Thailand and didn't get a +ve. Also ff hasn't given me the cross hairs yet confused

BlindKitty Fri 24-May-13 19:17:37

Happy Friday berries!

Have we still not heard from barking? Hmmm not like her not to be on all day or more than an hour haha hope you're ok babs x

tally did you mean game of thrones earlier? I LOVE it!

thunder re you going cold turkey, each time I've tried to go without opks I always end up stressing and wishing I'd just done them. I'm stressing now because I used cheap ones in Thailand and didn't get a +ve. Also ff hasn't given me the cross hairs yet confused

Aquarius1 Fri 24-May-13 19:18:26

Ladies, I am a long lost Elderberry from a few threads back, logging back in - can I please be allowed to rejoin the lovely gang of longer term ttc'ers?

I hit the ttc-for-12-months mark back in April and I think the fact it was approaching sent me off into a world of denial for a bit - sorry I deserted and hello those of you still around (barking and boodle? twinkle and happy?) I also have had the most horrendous period paid since Jan which has been accompanied by vomiting and diarrhoea every month - so really felt like I was being dealt with a very sh't hand in life which has taken me a while to come to terms with.

Have now entered a world of pelvic exams, fanny cams, gynaecologist apptmts, infinite blood tests and gp apptmts to work out what's going on. Latest advice is I might need a laparoscopy.

I have a male boss at work and I know I'm going to have to have an awkward conversation some time soon when I tell him why I keep going off to doctors' apptmts.... anyone have any advice in that area?

All that aside, I'm SO glad it's the bank hol and am enjoying an ELDERflower and gin cocktail and back-to-back episodes of cougar town (oddly addictive). Hope all you ladies are likewise enjoying a good start to the bank hol.

So that's me. I promise I won't post such long and self-involved posts again (unless absolutely necessary).

Aquarius1 Fri 24-May-13 19:26:04

ps. not forgetting thunder and bunny of course!

Tallyra Fri 24-May-13 19:36:48

hiya aquarius welcome back (not that I was here before but you know blush )

yes kitty I meant game if thrones. we've been recording it, as I really haven't felt up to watching it recently. I don't really know why, because I love it too... maybe it's something to do with not really being too into all the sex at the moment. I've gone off it at the mo and just too tired to think much in the evenings.

Aquarius1 Fri 24-May-13 19:51:54

thanks tally [ smile]

I record game of thrones too and am also not so keen on all the sex after a long day/week at work (but I do like the swashbluckling men and the girl power dragon lady...)

Aquarius1 Fri 24-May-13 19:53:13

oops I'm so out of practise on MN blush

BlindKitty Fri 24-May-13 20:30:30

Oh tally I'm thanking GOT for my baby making sex drive haha. Tmi coming but i have been known to think of ned stark at certain 'times' .(i know, i think its the authority thing). oh and rob stark and john snow would get it. Where are you up to? We're almost finished season 3!

Waves at aquarius. I think I remember you from before maybe I was just a lurker back then

Having a coronation-st-athon tonight whilst dh is out. Man I totally would not have picked Tina to be my surrogate! I'd be insanely jealous!!!!

Thank you so much for all your well wishes, it's really brightened me up! grin
I was being a good girl and not using my mobile phone on the ward....
Sooo.. Got to the gyny ward at around 1.30am. Doctor was called away for surgery. Got seen at 3am, by which time I was crying with pain if I had to leave the fetal position. She gave me painkillers then tried examining me again, then had to take swabs. When she put the doodah in I screamed in agony and despite being told to relax I never quite managed it. Think I woke most of the ward up blush . Was eventually admitted and given morphine and put on a drip. DP finally got to go home at 5.30am sad .
I was still in a lot of pain and was then feeling very sick as well so couldn't sleep. Finally managed a couple of hours sleep after a 2nd morphine injection and two lots of anti sickness drugs. Had two more bouts of pain followed by vomitting until I realised the pattern - the sickness came on half an hour after each dose of codine. They were threatening to keep me in another night but DP and I persuaded them there was no need, the pain was substantially better and the sickness had been linked to the codine. Now home and in the bath, can't wait for a decent sleep, had maximum of 4 hours in the last 36 hours!!

All they could think of was that I was sensitive to the ink they used in the HSG and it had irritated the lining of my uterus. I think it's scary that it could be that painful (I really was writhing around the bed in agony as they tried to examine me) but there isn't really other explanation. No other symptoms that suggest infection and too early for hat to kick in anyway.

Apparently when DP called my mum to tell her I was in hospital and what was probably the problem she just said I did tend to react to a lot of things?!? I get hayfever and I can't eat shellfish, it hardly makes me a medical nightmare!! Although I can add codine to the list now....

Thanks again for all your kind thoughts, it was lovely to check in and are that you'd been thinking of me smile .

Apparently I need to log on less often though if my absence is noticed after an hour... blush .

And see that....

Hi Aquarius, was wondering how you'd been doing! smile

Cate555 Fri 24-May-13 20:49:06

Gosh Berries just popped on to catch up on everyone and saw Barkings posts! Any news?
Barking take care really hope you are feeling better.

BlindKitty Fri 24-May-13 21:03:02

Phew barking glad you're ok, and don't you dare stop coming on mn so often!!! We'd miss you too much x

sconeoclock Fri 24-May-13 21:25:28

Evening all,
barking glad you are feeling as bit better, hopefully you've managed to catch up on some sleep.

I'm knackered, big weekend of work coming up so in the kitchen at 7.30 tomorrow for me so I'm just chilling in bed now.
Hope you all have nice weekend plans

BlindKitty Fri 24-May-13 21:40:43

Mmmm cakes....

sconeoclock Fri 24-May-13 21:42:51

Yep coffee & walnut cake, chocolate tiffin, Victoria sponge and about 500 Scones lol
Meringues are in the oven now slow cooking

Bunnygirlie Fri 24-May-13 22:36:43

Evening all! 

Aquarius welcome back!!! Good to see you but sorry you are having bad AFs! And how very dare you nearly forget me wink

The term fanny cams really made me chuckle, is that the same as dildocam LOL

barking so glad you are feeling better!!! Hugs!

Tallyra Fri 24-May-13 22:37:58

Yay Barking! Have a nice sleep xxx

Bunnygirlie Fri 24-May-13 23:31:53

Had a fab cuddle with my colleagues 10 day old baby today, such a sweetie. It was all lovely till my colleague (10 years younger than me) pipes up with 'hey bunny does your womb just light up when it senses a baby like a beacon so you know one is near '


Tallyra Fri 24-May-13 23:46:21

ummm. step away from the crazy lady.... slowly, or she'll 'sense' something's wrong.

Bunnygirlie Sat 25-May-13 00:03:39


happylass Sat 25-May-13 01:47:35

Welcome back Aquarius <waves frantically>. Was wondering where you'd got to a few days back. Sorry AFs been giving you such a tough time.
Barking glad you're home. Hope the pain is easing up and you'll be fighting fit again soon.
Was out with work tonight and had a funny turn. Came over all hot and dizzy and was apparently white as a sheet. Really thought I was going to pass out which then resulted in about a million people asking me if was pregnant <screams no I'm bloody not>

BlindKitty Sat 25-May-13 06:11:07

bunny wtf??? That's outrageous! You should just report her to hr. that's not acceptable to say at work.

happy I guess it's just a natural reaction. Better get used to it as you'll be passing out all the time when you're preggers!

Well guys its 6.10am. So much for my lie in but I guess scone will have already made about a million cakes by now!!! xxx

GooseyD Sat 25-May-13 06:11:09

6am on Saturday, up since 5, still not sleeping brilliantly

Phew Barking so glad you're ok! That sounds horrendous. Hope you feel much better today and it doesn't spoil your bank holiday. Will it have any effect on ttc this month (apart from not feeling like it?!)

Hi Aquarius, period cramps and sickness lasting for months sounds horrible. Have they no idea what would cause that? Did you have bad AFs before? Re telling boss - I have a woman boss who I know would be sympathetic but I don't want to tell anyone at work that I'm ttc so although there was a month when I had around 6 doctor/hospital appointments I just said I'd bring her a note and not why (actually come to think of it, I never did!) Why do you think you might need to tell him?

Wow Bunny what a really odd thing to say, what on earth was she on about? Does she know you're ttc? Was she just addressing that weird comment to any women around or specially singling you out for the bizarreness? I'd freak out if a colleague came out with anything like that!

Not as weirdly, but quite annoyingly I found, we were talking at work about people who call you on your mobile and won't take any notice when you explain 'now isn't a good time for a call'. Anyway I was trying to enter into this conversation but the two others happen to be mums (one 8 years younger than me to add insult) and whenever I say anything one or other goes - oh but it's worse with a toddler, oh but everyone should just HAVE to look after a toddler to see what a hard time it is.... grrr

GooseyD Sat 25-May-13 06:12:16

Hey Kitty - morning!

GooseyD Sat 25-May-13 06:18:15

Hi Happy, missed the dizzy episode - do you know why? How was the night out and sharing room with a colleague? Was that a work arranged thing or just bunch of work friends?

sconeoclock Sat 25-May-13 07:15:28

Morning all, slept really badly last night, very unlike me and low temp this morning which I am putting down to waking frequently since 4am. Must be because I know I have lots to do today.

One of my fb friends just put a status about elderflowers and wet sausages!!

happylass Sat 25-May-13 07:16:26

Morning Kitty and Goosey. Good to see I'm not the only one awake at silly o'clock on a Saturday!
Night out was a works do for someone who's leaving Goosey but a bunch of us stayed in town to avoid the hassle of getting cabs home. No idea what caused the almost faint. Had only been out for about half an hour at that point so didnt really drink any more for the rest of the evening. Thanks to waking up early I managed to sneakily take my temp whilst my colleague is still asleep. Pleased to report it's still sky high. How are things with you Goosey?

happylass Sat 25-May-13 07:17:40

Morning to you too scone

BlindKitty Sat 25-May-13 07:21:51

Morning guys!

Happy mind had come done already and I'm not due on until next week!

scone could you possibly bake /bring me some freshly baked bread? Oh and throw in a few sausages for good measure!

sconeoclock Sat 25-May-13 07:26:58

kitty I don't bake my own bread but have some freshly made scones in the oven and a rhubarb and raspberry sponge?!

BlindKitty Sat 25-May-13 07:32:00

Oh what a let down wink looks like I'll have to go and get my own. Just how bad would it be to drive in my pjs and run into the butchers????

sconeoclock Sat 25-May-13 07:36:43

It would be fine until you asked the butcher for some bread!!

Gillster Sat 25-May-13 07:37:37

Gosh, such a lot of activity for such early hours on a bank holiday weekend!

Glad you're on the mend Barking. Looks like we were both at opposite ends of the spectrum with the after effects of HSG.

Goosey - Things sound a bit calmer in your household smile. This TTC malarkey does put a strain on our relationships at times.

Seems like there have been quite a few insensitive comments flying around sad. Most people really have no idea. I almost feel like people are checking out my every move at work. I've been asked many times in the last few months when am I going to have a baby? Wish they'd keep their noses out of my personal business.

On a more positive note, I 'll be picking hubbie up from the airport in an hour after him being away for 3 weeks grin grin. Think I will be leaping on him fairly promptly as soon as we return home! Jet lag, schmetlag!!

I'm expecting a smile on the OPKs so most excellent timing. I'd better just quickly tidy up the house - don't want him thinking that I'm the messy one in this relationship!

Well I was hoping to stay asleep a little longer than that! Oh well, feeling a lot better than I was this time yesterday anyway! Still got cramps but just like dull period pain, and still tired and a bit dizzy but 36 hours without sleep plus a couple of doses of morphine will probably have something to do with that!

Goosey that's the key question, but I wasn't in a fit state to be asking anyone who saw me earlier when I was in ridiculous amounts of pain and not really able to think or talk at all. The doctor who we persuaded to discharge me was a junior doctor who didn't seem to know much about it so I felt there was no point asking her.

I admit there were moments in the last 36 hours that I strayed momentarily off my yellow brick road of positivity shock. However, I have decided that either a) it's just like having a reaction to a face cream or something, as soon as you stop using it your skin will heal itself and get back to normal, so nothing to worry about, or b) there was clearly something wrong with the lining of my uterus and this process has burned off all the bad stuff so now it's all good (don't laugh, I'm trying to remain positive).
I don't want to think about c) my uterus is ridiculously sensitive and this could have further implications.

Could the berries please help me stay on my positivity drive for this cycle?! Please vote the option you think most likely (obviously answer a is the one you should be going for) wink

Aquarius1 Sat 25-May-13 09:14:39

Thanks for the lovely welcome back ladies! wtf are you all doing up so early on a bank hol (apart from scone with all the cake making) ???

barking that's just not cricket that you've had to go through all that - it's clearly a) from the sounds of it and i hope you feel much better soon.

gill the Gp and Gyn both suggested endometriosis for which there's no real cure- they can try and remove it but doesn't always work, or I can take a load of painkillers in advance of af - but not if I'm ttc hmm

goosey yes I did have painful afs before but the d&v is new. think I just need to tell my boss I'm having some medical investigations / routine surgery and leave it at that...

bunny your colleague sounds a burger short of a happy meal IMO

Tallyra Sat 25-May-13 09:35:22

a a a a a a barking! I choose route a. if you can go through that and still be trying to be positive, you are amazing and it should bloody well be your time!!

MrsB00Mbastic Sat 25-May-13 09:45:07

Morning all, it's a goooorgeous day here so off to yomp with the dog in a mo to make the most of it before work at 12 (ufff)

Hi aquarius good to have you (back) with us! Sorry you're having such a nightmare of a time with AF. I wouldn't tell your boss at all, none of their beeswax why you're having to have docs appointments and they should respect that!

barking glad to hear you're on the yellow brick road to recovery. I'm in total agreement, the answer must be a)! Just a one-off reaction to something that you won't be having shoved up there again so hopefully nothing to worry about in future. Can you make a follow-up appointment at the hospital to speak to someone about it now that you're not whacked out on painkillers?

happy as if it's not bad enough going all funny in public, people HAVE to make it into a pregnancy thing angry Hope you're feeling ok now?

bunny your colleague is totally out of line, probably didn't mean to be offensive but I'd be having a quiet word with her about engaging brain before opening mouth and inserting foot. I had my own irritating comments yesterday at the pub - met my friend and a few of her mates who I don't really know, we were talking about getting married and someone asked how long I'd been married and then said 'and no babies yet? Tick tock, tick tock!' Luckily my friend was there making finger-across-throat 'stop it' actions so they shut up quickly and looked suitably embarrassed when they realised they'd been tactless, but still. GRR.

scone any chance of a cream-tea for brekkie??

Gill must be really hard having your DH away for weeks at a time. Sure you'll have fun welcoming him home though! wink

Blind haha I really hope you have gone to the butchers in your PJs for some bread. That'll be one confused butcher!

Morning all!

Hey aquarius! <tries for an uncharacteristic fist bump> good to see you buddy. Your absence was definitely noted when you went awol before. Sorry it's been a bit of a sh*tty time but good things are happening now with the investigations.

blind I heed your words re cold turkey. Not sure what to do now! Am going to be away during the three/four days I would normally pimp so that was another reason not to bother this month. Hmmmm may just try it this once and see. I've been doing it for 5 months and have always got the smile within the same 2 cycle days so thought it might save me the money!

scone you're making me hungry! Rhubarb and raspberry?! YUM!

barking welcome home. What an ordeal for you but so glad it's over with now. And stay positive- the fact you had a reaction after you had dye squirted around your plumbing is pretty understandable to me. Can't see any reason this would relate to your uterus not liking a lovely egg of your own making being there. Definitely a)

Oh yeah and bunny wtf with that colleague?!

And boom did you get that wine?

MrsB00Mbastic Sat 25-May-13 10:50:29

I did get the wine, it was more like wine wine wine .....

Now I have a headache, that'll teach me..I should know I can't take more than a glass! Total lightweight.

bunny and boom tactless people are so annoying, even before ttc myself I'm sure I was aware of the unspoken code that says you do not comment on or ask about a woman's lack of babies?!

Although I've just had my own mother do the oblivious talking about other people's babies again. Her next door neighbour's daughter gave birth yesterday and so I heard all about that and how excited her neighbour was to be a grandma, and how she'd also just found out that her daughter in law was pregnant so by the end of the year she would have two grandchildren and how wonderful was that? Absolutely bloody wonderful but I just didn't want or need to hear it. Especially as I'm feeling very tired and emotional and still not 100%. So when I got off the phone the last thing I needed was DP sarcastically saying 'well I'm glad I asked you to come to the park and walk the dog with me, that was a lot of fun' as I'd just been on the phone to my mother all the way round. Conveniently forgetting that his mother called me first and I had to speak to her for 10 minutes while all the time wanting to speak to my mum as I hadn't spoken to her since going to hospital. Cue tears from me and him doing his usual 'you don't have to cry about it' and making out I'm being unreasonable. But it's not just that it's what my mother has just been saying on the phone that I'm still struggling to deal with rationally and just ARGHHHH!!! sad

Oh, and to add to the pile of fun I'm having right now, after visiting his granny in hospital we've been invited round to his uncle's for dinner. Which will be lovely, his uncle is great, but DP's wife and pg SiL who was so rude and objectionable last time we saw them will be there, and DP is still mad about their behaviour and we weren't planning to see them at all this weekend. Fun, fun, fun....

Sorry, I'll stop the 'me, me me' posting now, but just before I do, I looked back at the booklet I was given before my HSG and it does have a sentence that says 'it is extremely rare but it is possible you may have an allergic reaction to the small amount of x-ray contrast.' Guess that was it then.

Bunnygirlie Sat 25-May-13 11:58:36

Greetings! Woke up this morn with a banging headache, only had once glass of wine so it seems a little unfair. It's probably due to DH coming in drunk at 12.15 with drunken hiccups making me angry grrrrr is it bad that I thought about smothering him with my pillow wink

Going back to what my colleague said yesterday, I don't think she meant it in a bad way, nobody at work knows we're TTC (my one friend is on maternity leave) so it wasn't malicious. I think she just meant that if there is a baby in the office then I'm straight there to have a look or a cuddle! 

goose sometimes I just want to shout - just because you are a mother doesn't mean you know it all!!!!! Or - just because I don't have children it doesn't make my point any less valid!!!!!

happy hubby humping gil 

barking grrrrr to the insensitive mothers and MILs and DP too (men really don't get it at all do they) p.s. I also chose option a!

If anyone needs a grin watch [[ this]]
I defy anyone not to be smile by the end of it!

And without the gap here Grrr. Why would it cut and paste a gap at the beginning?!

Bunnygirlie Sat 25-May-13 13:23:06

Ah is that doing the rounds on your fb too? I watched this morning on sky as always tape the show, love it! (and still remembered every word of the rap lol)

Did you see the earlier one with Will Smith and Gary Barlow and the audience doing the rap with Gary Barlow playing the notes on a tiny keyboard? grin

CharmingCats Sat 25-May-13 16:19:00

Well berries, have had my first hangover for years today. Was out last night for end of term drinks. I never usually go or I drive so don't drink. But really wanted to let my hair down. Now feeling very sick. Still.
Was supposed to be meeting up with a girl I know from school who I got back in touch with on fb a few months ago. Plan was to take the train on Wednesday, as it's a bit of a long drive for a day trip for me. But I can't face it. She's got a 6 month old and just goes on and on about him. Last time we spoke it took her 45 mins to ask how I was. I can't cope with a monologue and a long train journey. I've decided to be honest with her, although it is the third time we've tried to arrange something, I wouldn't be fussed if I never heard from her again. I do understand that having a baby is a big deal, but I have other friends with babies that don't blather on about them.
Gonna have a little snooze now..... Love to you all.

Bunnygirlie Sat 25-May-13 18:03:41

Quiet in here today, people must be enjoying the sun! Been to a local craft/food festival today, was only there a few hours but managed to spot 6 bumps!!!!! And one only looked about 12 grrrrrrrrrrr

Oh look, it's wine o'clock :-)

Tallyra Sat 25-May-13 19:55:01

congrats for having a good night out cats. I can't even have 1 wine without getting the hangover from hell so I understand the problem. hope the nap helped!
We spent the day doing stuff in the garden and clearing the shed.
it's now taken me an hour to type this so I'm sure I've missed loads...

Tallyra Sat 25-May-13 19:58:55

or not!

sconeoclock Sat 25-May-13 22:19:09

Just quickly popping in before bed, manic today, only just finished in the kitchen and I started at 7.30 this morning!! Another early start tomorrow and Monday is our busiest day of the year so no rest for me! Can't complain though if we're busy.

Hope you are all having good weekends, will try and catch up on everyone's news soon

sconeoclock Sun 26-May-13 07:46:25

Morning berries,
My temp has dropped below cover line again today so I guess AF is on her way, I was quite hopeful this month as we DTD at all the right times.
Dh and I are going to book our first drs appointment when AF arrives (due Wednesday)

What are the first steps usually?

Gillster Sun 26-May-13 08:00:22

Sorry to hear that scone although it's not over just yet. If you do go to docs then they'll usually do blood tests between days 2-5 and also at day 21ish for progesterone. Therefore might be worth making an appointment to possibly facilitate these timings so you don't have to wait another cycle. They'll probably do a sperm analysis once your bloods have been done. Also, when they ask how long you've been TTC add on a few months. Good luck but fingers crossed that AF doesn't show up in first place.

sconeoclock Sun 26-May-13 08:18:57

Thanks gill might book an appointment for Wednesday then.

I came off depo injection in September 2011 so technically we have been TTC since then although AF didn't return until May last year. Should I say AF came back earlier than that?

happylass Sun 26-May-13 08:24:21

Morning all. Scone I've recently been to the GPs for my first proper appointment. For me it's pretty much what Gil said. I had the cd21 back in February but they wouldn't do anything further until I'd been TTC 12 months (needed to exaggerate slightly there) This time around they did the full blood count for things like thydroid , glucose and iron levels plus the hormone tests but they didnt seem bothered about doing these on a particular cycle day even though I did ask. Going back on Tuesday for the results and to discuss being referred. DP had his jizz test back in December and I have to show proof of this to my GP so it may be worth sending yours ASAP to save time. I think procedures differ by area though so this may all be totally irrelevant!

I just googled HSG allergy. A lot of the American sites tell you to let your doctor know if you are allergic to iodine or shellfish. I can't eat shellfish it makes me very ill. It seems a very strange coincidence that I had this severe reaction that is supposed to be 'extremely rare' and in America they seem to see a connection to shellfish. So I then googled shellfish and iodine and there's a massive amount about the 'urban myth' of links between iodine & xray dyes and shellfish. All very bizarre. It does seem a very strange coincidence to me though.

I'm still not right, but it's a stunning day outside so I'm armed with painkillers and going to push on through anyway grin .

Happy sunny weekend everyone! smile

Oo, none of your messages were there when I started typing!! Morning everyone! <waves>

Scone just to add my own experience, I did blood tests on cd2 and cd21, then had internal examination and swabs taken and DP did SA. When results were all back we had a joint appointment to fill in all the forms for the referral to the fc.
I'd be vague about when AF came back wink .

Gillster Sun 26-May-13 08:41:40

Scone I agree with barking about being vague about return of AF. Maybe say "hard to remember exactly but sometime in the new year - Jan/Feb time 2012". wink

Enjoy the sun berries, lots of BBQ action and gardening for me smile.

sconeoclock Sun 26-May-13 08:43:33

Thanks all, will book appointment and hope we get a good gp.

Hope you all enjoy the sunshine today, another busy day in the kitchen for me. Tomorrow is set to be our busiest day of the year so I probably won't get time to check back here until Tuesday.

BlindKitty Sun 26-May-13 09:47:15

barking that does sound plausible, although I was going to vote 'a' anyway! Well done your doctor for asking if you had a shellfish allergy..

scone my butcher bakes bread!!! It's really good as well better than his sausages actually

cats come and join me in the hangover hammock!

thunder tbf you'll prob be fine going cold turkey I'm just a complete control freak and needs to know everything!

Well, went out drinking yest (hence posting from the hangover hammock) and feel rubbish despite only having a few! Spent most of night 'babysitting' my friend who decided to get blind drunk (shots in every bar). She then talked me into going to this club despite refusing as I felt extremely old and low after the last time (she asked 17 times, yes I counted). I only have in as she made out it was because she wanted to spend quality time with me only for her to completely ignore me and flirt with the dj (the actual reason why she wanted to go)!!! Love her to bits but she's in for a telling off later!!!

Bunnygirlie Sun 26-May-13 09:48:08

Hope all are well today, I guess it will be quiet in here due to the sunshine.

I'm off to make a pavlova for a BBQ :-) shall I use elderberries ;-)

BlindKitty Sun 26-May-13 10:20:58

bunny how domesticated of you. I'm going to a BBQ too but I'm going to take bread rolls from Asda haha

Aquarius1 Sun 26-May-13 13:34:51

Another one for the hangover hammock here - too much wine at a birthday meal for friend of dh last night hmm just polished off a BLT which is helpingsmile

scone I came off depo in 2011 too- last injection July, af came back Feb 2012-ish, but hasn't been regular so GP sorted me out with blood tests. If your periods aren't quite back to normal maybe you could start getting tested on that basis?

Bunnygirlie Sun 26-May-13 18:19:20

Oh kitty I'm not that domesticated, I can't really cook much but I do like baking, pavlovas and macaroons are my thing :-)

Tallyra Sun 26-May-13 19:23:30

hi guys. I've Been out sewing all day and had a great time - made a quilt top in 4 hours, which is a bit of a record for me.
I'm feeling a bit better today - I've been pretty down this week because I'm now back on green week once again and we are still not TTC and waiting for the appointment to talk to a consultant. I have been tempted to say sod the waiting and try again but I keep coming back to the sensible opinion that we should at least get a professional opinion that it's worth doing. dh had a bit of a talk with me after I apologised for yet about the bad mood day that we were supposed to be enjoying together. he's being so understanding and really wants to help me to not go back shown the depression route again for no reason that we can help. bloody nhs crappy doctors and waiting lists!!!

Evening all, good work on earning those hangovers girls! Drink on through I say but I am a boozy bad influence

So cd7 here and af still hasn't entirely left the building iykwim? Humph. think thyroxine might be making them heavy and longer- anyone know anything about this?

tally a top? Sounds cool. Pics? Your DH sounds lovely.

grin at blind's rolls from asda

Tallyra Sun 26-May-13 20:39:14

Not a top, a quilt top. But still very cool. It's the top part of a quilt - still got to put the layers together and quilt it before it can be called a proper quilt...
I bought what is called a 'jelly roll', which is a roll of loads of different strips of fabric and in my workshop we were taught how to put them together really quickly. Normally a quilt top takes me several weeks at a minimum because I'm doing it on my own at home, but in a group of motivated people you can get a hell of a lot done! I'm just getting the photo uploaded and you can have a look on my profile... It's loads of different William Morris designs. Not usually my thing but the jelly roll was cheap, and I think it's come out really well!

Ahh that sounds great, I'm really inspired by your quirking activity! Give the shout when the photo is ready!

Tallyra Sun 26-May-13 21:12:55

Yep, will do. Getting a 404 error page at the moment, so not sure what's going on.

Bunnygirlie Sun 26-May-13 21:52:14

Evening peeps.

So I'm not on the ROR or the SOP or even the POP,I feel like I may be on the CLOL (chaise lounge of limbo)

CD5 so I guess all the shagging starts next weekend. Does any other berry get a feeling of dread as they head towards DTD time? The worry that one of you will be too tired, too ill, too stressed, no mojo etc...

Yes bunny it's a mixture of hope and mostly dread because of the pressure

Tallyra Sun 26-May-13 22:08:47

Yes, I'm getting quite tired of it now. But DH changed it up a bit yesterday and we are getting things back to the way they were 'before TTC', ie, much more interesting. I'm still having a bit of a problem getting in the mood, but yesterday was much more fun wink

That's a good idea tally. I'd be up for that if af would bloody leave damnit.

Bunnygirlie Sun 26-May-13 22:54:49

My hubby hates the pressure and i hate myself for pressurising him too!

CD10 here Bunny and heading towards shag fortnight week as Ov could be any time between cd18 and 23. Hoping tomorrow I'm back to 100% and we can start practising.... But DP is in for his operation on the 6th June (no dtd for potentially up to 4 weeks) which could come 2 days after Ov, or 2 days before. I'm sticking with the positivity, so obviously I'm definitely expecting Ov by cd20 otherwise we can't maximise the possibilities of the post HSG BFP plus me remembering to take the fit b6 every day (bar the one day I was in hospital) to fingers crossed lengthen my LP. And I think if anyone deserves a post HSG BFP it would be me, surely?!?!
Hope everyone had a lovely sunny day, it was gorgeous out there!! grin

happylass Mon 27-May-13 07:24:28

Morning Berries. Had a lovely night away with DP last night and will be exploring the West Country today before heading home tonight for a week of revision and reports sad
Good luck to all those entering shag week. Barking you more than deserve your BFP after what you've been through in the past week. Somewhere in the 2ww here though not sure where due to the weird OV happenings. At least a week to wait before any pimping opportunities though I think. Have a lovely day all.
PS - anyone seen Pip or Merk?

BlindKitty Mon 27-May-13 07:50:29

Morning peeps! Hope you're all having a good bank hol!

Think I might be on the CLOL as well bunny, hence why I've got blind drunk 2 days in a row in my 2ww. Just really don't think I will do this without assistance now. I'm not even massively sad about it, I think I've just finally accepted it. Roll on iui in aug!

happy think pip popped in a few days ago but haven't seen merk for a while. Wanted to tell her I've finally learnt what a merkin is haha

Well girls a momentous thing happened yesterday - I played cricket and managed to hit loads of balls! I always shy out of stuff like this as I'm generally crap and thought all my horrid childhood memories would come back. I finally crack it at 33! Where was my 33 year old self when I needed her at school?!

Bunnygirlie Mon 27-May-13 11:24:25

Keeping my fingers crossed for you barking!

kitty can I ask how long you have been TTC? (lost track of everyone) I read somewhere online that NHS won't give ivf unless you have been trying for 2 whole years! Have you been through all the tests, fannycams (snigger) etc?!?

Feel sick as a dog today, really nauseous, a really hideous IBS symptom, I am so lucky NOT!

BlindKitty Mon 27-May-13 13:24:07

bunny 2 whole years, I'm afraid! Hence my negativity! Or acceptance, which ever way you look at it! I think it's time to stop hoping I'll 'get lucky this cycle'. Sorry if I sound depressing! I'm actually feeling strangely empowered that I've finally accepted it!

BlindKitty Mon 27-May-13 13:31:18

Oh and sorry to hear your ibs is playing up. Happy to send info re fodmap if you like x

Bunnygirlie Mon 27-May-13 16:24:28

Crikey 2 years is so long :-( Keeping everything crossed for you kitty

Well today I have jumped from the CHOL to the ROR and the SOP, DH has just dropped the bombshell that he is going away for work and will be away for CD16-19 grrrrrrr. Firstly I thought he was going to be away during DTD week but this is just as bad, he will be so stressed about work that I cannot imagine much DTD will be happening sad angry

BlindKitty Mon 27-May-13 17:02:37

Oh that's rubbish bunny, is there anyway he could commute or you go there?

Re my pregnant friend who Iimited her FB profile, she's just texted to say her grandad died over a week ago. I think she'd wondered why I'd not said anything as she'd announced it on FB. I'm such a horrid friend, I just can't bare the sight of her bikini bump!

Aquarius1 Mon 27-May-13 18:03:47

kitty I know what you mean about feeling empowered - we've been ttc over a year and I am definitely more laid back about it than I was (apart from the odd pms moment when I feel rather sorry for myself). In fact I'm so laid back this month that I hadn't ovulated by cd20 (according to sonographer/ fanny cam lady - she said I had a dominant follicle so was prob about to ovulate)...

Btw You are so not a horrid friend just because you choose not to communicate with someone / follow their life via the medium of FB.

bunny sorry about your ibs and other half going away mid cycle that sucks. Maybe if I send you some laid back vibes from my ovaries they'll hold off til dh returns...wink

BlindKitty Mon 27-May-13 18:33:21

Thanks aquarius I think I'm going to call the fc nurse tomorrow and ask about privately funding ivf. I've just no hope that iui will work and I'm just wasting my time constantly waiting for things to happen.

Tallyra Mon 27-May-13 19:51:59

Oh no Kitty, you aren't a horrid friend, it's completely up to you who you follow or not.

I've been trying for over 3 years now and I've done the desperate bit, got more and more laid back, been depressed, got back on track and now coming back into the desperate stage. It goes in cycles apparently...

Thunder, photos are up now smile

BlindKitty Mon 27-May-13 20:51:24

tally it's prob just because I'm approaching the 2 year mark next month. Know what you mean about cycles, yes I am generally worse in my 2ww but I also think I'm just being realistic. When is your appointment?

Tallyra Mon 27-May-13 21:00:25

It's on the 11th, so next tuesday. No idea what the doctor will say, but hoping a test or two. I know my tubes aren't blocked but they mentioned a hycosy, to check for infection maybe.

Bunnygirlie Mon 27-May-13 21:10:15

Evening all. I think I will just forget about June and concentrate on hopefully being referred this month to the FC. 

kitty you aren't a bad friend at all, I think us berries know exactly how you feel. 

MrsB00Mbastic Mon 27-May-13 21:24:40

Evenin' all

Hope everyone's had a good bank holiday weekend?

Not much to report here. Managed the Manchester 10k yesterday without collapsing in the heat, so still wallowing in 'I'm so healthy' smugness. Oh and the dog tried to commit hara kiri by chocolate last night and cost us £140 in emergency emetics. Drama! CD48, no sign of AF as yet the contrary witch

All the berries who have been trying for a long time - I think I can sort of understand what you mean although obviously I'm not as far down the line as you guys. Having been an emotional wreck for most of the past year, I feel like I'm just starting out with the acceptance stage. I'm pretty sure now that between the random cycles and weird uterus, this isn't something that's going to happen au naturel despite the MC (I'm convinced the hormones from the implant had something to do with getting pg that time). Just hopeful that we get some sort of intervention sooner rather than later. At least it's taken the pressure off in the bedroom, dtd has got a lot more fun since I've abandoned all hope wink

bunny if you need laid-back ovary vibes I have them in abundance, I'll add mine to Aqua's for you! Rubbish when life gets in the way of the most carefully laid plans (HA! That's a joke. laid - geddit?) <pauses for a stern word with self for bad humour> Hope your IBS eases off for you x

Kitty good luck with phoning the clinic. Perhaps going private will give you that control that we all clearly crave and which is very sadly lacking in the NHS system! And you're not a bad friend for FB blocking, FB isn't really an appropriate place for announcing sad/delicate news if you ask me or for posting baby bumps

Can't scroll back any further but hi to all other berries! <waves>

Tallyra Mon 27-May-13 21:30:41

Oh, yes, we had a ferret emergency today and had to take one in for hydration. and blood tests. and antibio's. £300 later he's home but we need to take him back in tomorrow for more fluids. sad. Still don't know what's actually wrong though.

BlindKitty Mon 27-May-13 21:31:51

tally not long then. At least you know you can get pregnant once the docs work out how to get them to stick.

bunny a month off might give you sometime to relax anyway. Get back on form in July x

MrsB00Mbastic Mon 27-May-13 21:41:50

Ps Anyone seen charming recently?

Flipping animals eh Tally! Good job we love em. Hope Ferret Tally is on the mend soon (BoomDog is giving me the evils from across the room - unappreciative of having her life saved, clearly)

Bunnygirlie Mon 27-May-13 21:59:25

Hey boom and wow, doing a marathon is amazing! Sorry to hear about poorly pooch and the poorly ferret too Tally.

Thanks for get well wishes, I'm sure IBS will ease off once I eat a bit better, pigging out on holiday didn't help!

Bunnygirlie Mon 27-May-13 22:01:28

Is it just me or is it time for a new list?!?

Bunny - 33, Just started cycle 13, awaiting DHs jizz test, FX then referral to FC. Heading into DTD week!

CharmingCats Mon 27-May-13 22:23:41

Helloooo! <waves to boom> I'm here! Cd54.....
I too am beginning to accept that we will not conceive without help. Feeling a little calmer. Still avoiding fb and babies of mothers who go on and on about them.
Hope the dogs and ferrets are ok. How are the cats? One of mine had a good sniff of a fox cub in the garden the other evening. Must do flea treatment......

MrsB00Mbastic Mon 27-May-13 22:26:46

Yeah, I've lost track of where everyone is a bit!

Bunny - 33, Just started cycle 13, awaiting DHs jizz test, FX then referral to FC. Heading into DTD week!
Boom - 31, ttc just over a year, long cycles (40-80days), awaiting jizz test results, need hycosy if AF every shows up, back at gynae clinic to discuss results 21 June.

happylass Mon 27-May-13 22:33:14

Yey I love a list......

Bunny - 33, Just started cycle 13, awaiting DHs jizz test, FX then referral to FC. Heading into DTD week!
Boom - 31, ttc just over a year, long cycles (40-80days), awaiting jizz test results, need hycosy if AF every shows up, back at gynae clinic to discuss results 21 June.
Happylass -35. Cycle 10. AF due 2nd June-ish though maybe later due to late OV this month. Had initial blood tests with GP.

MrsB00Mbastic Mon 27-May-13 22:34:21

Oooh hi Charming! Thought I hadn't seen my crazy long cycle buddy for a while smile Glad you're feeling a bit more zen. I've got to agree, avoiding the friends with baby-related verbal diarrhoea is definitely beneficial. CD48 here, chugging along...

Can't speak for blind's amazing vomming cat, but my two are fine and dandy. Tried to worm them the other day, one was fine but his sister was an evil ball of claws and teeth. I still bear scars!

Bunny - 33, Just started cycle 13, awaiting DHs jizz test, FX then referral to FC. Heading into DTD week!
Boom - 31, ttc just over a year, long cycles (40-80days), awaiting jizz test results, need hycosy if AF every shows up, back at gynae clinic to discuss results 21 June.
Happylass -35. Cycle 10. AF due 2nd June-ish though maybe later due to late OV this month. Had initial blood tests with GP.
barkingtreefrog - 33, cycle 18, had (disastrous) HSG, dildo scan & next FC appointment 19th June.

Boodle9 Mon 27-May-13 22:42:03

Just swinging in to say hello Berries, especially Aquarius - nice to see your face, lady! grin

I've been dodging Mumsnet recently as I'm in a bit of a low patch and I'm finding it helpful to just stay the hell away from the Internet. Couldn't resist having a peek in tonight though, since it's Bank Holiday and all.

Barking - I hope you get your post-HSG BFP. It didn't work for me, unfortunately, but then I wasn't expecting it to. I did have an absolutely horrific AF to follow (and mine are pretty tough anyway) just to rub salt in it for me. angry

Hi Boodle sorry you're in a low patch sad. I'm not that hopeful if I'm being honest, DP's operation will probably might throw a spanner into shag week and although the vit b6 seemed to lengthen my LP to 10 days last cycle there's no guarantee it will work again this cycle or that 10 days will be long enough anyway. But I was so desperately pessimistic last cycle that I decided I would be positive this cycle! Against all the odds! We'll definitely be out next cycle as it seems that although recovery rates are up to 4 weeks from a circumcision, it's very painful to get an erection for up to 4-6 weeks afterwards.... <Sorry if thats tmi> So definitely no July BFP, which is all the more reason to put all hopes onto a June one!!

kitty even if you were following all her posts, she's also assuming that you are on fb regularly enough to not miss a single post. I would never assume a friend on fb had read everything I had posted. Definitely don't beat yourself up about that one!

Bunny does he always get that stressed about work? Sounds unhealthy, and not easy for you either sad.

Boom my mum did the Manchester 10k yesterday!

MrsB00Mbastic Mon 27-May-13 22:57:30

Hi boodle, nice to see you! Sorry to hear you're having a rough time, hope your interweb avoidance strategy is helping although we do miss you. Pop in whenever if you need a vent, I'll save you a space on the sofa and a nice brew xx

Aquarius1 Mon 27-May-13 23:14:05

boodle! I've missed the boodle show. Still getting jealous of the moon??wink

Boodle9 Tue 28-May-13 01:04:48

Aquarius - absolutely! The moon is a bitch, the BFP car can just bugger off already and the sheep with their little baby lambs, just humph!

probably best not to even mention the numerous real life pregnant people who seem to be surrounding me right now

sconeoclock Tue 28-May-13 06:54:31

Morning berries,
I hope you all had a great bank holiday weekend.
Ours was manic, tea rooms were packed!

Went out for a few drinks last night and AF got me this morning so I'm suffering double today!

I was a day early too which is very unlike me.
Oh well, time to book a doctors appointment then...

BlindKitty Tue 28-May-13 07:07:31

Yey I love a list......

Bunny - 33, Just started cycle 13, awaiting DHs jizz test, FX then referral to FC. Heading into DTD week!
Boom - 31, ttc just over a year, long cycles (40-80days), awaiting jizz test results, need hycosy if AF every shows up, back at gynae clinic to discuss results 21 June.
Happylass -35. Cycle 10. AF due 2nd June-ish though maybe later due to late OV this month. Had initial blood tests with GP.
blindkitty 33, ttc 2 years, had blood tests, Hsg, sa (all clear except morphology slightly low). Had 4 rounds of clomid. Iui prob starting in aug

Oi! kitty! You've taken me off the list!! Is that because you know I'm going to get a BFP this month so there's no point me being on there? wink grin

Sorry AF got you scone angry .

MrsB00Mbastic Tue 28-May-13 08:15:23


Sorry AF got you Scone sad, just what you need with a hangover! Hope your doc is sympathetic.

boodle don't forget doggy ultrasound scans on FB and people who aren't actually pregnant but look like they might be! So many things to be jealous of, where to start??

PuppyMummy Tue 28-May-13 08:18:13

morning all.
just posting this to jinx af into arriving.

not due til tomorrow but have been crampy on and off since Sunday. (unusual for me as cramps normally mean af will come within 24hrs)
Woke up this morning with quite strong cramps, expected to see af but no sign.

Anyway she is clearly trying to trick me so I thought a post here expressing my wishful thinking that the cramps might be something burrowing in would be bound to encourage her arrival!

Bunnygirlie Tue 28-May-13 08:45:53

Hey boodle and puppy good to see you!

Grrrrr to AF arriving scone

barking he's a manager and director so he can never leave work at work if you know what I mean, I think I am unintentionally adding pressure which doesn't help either!

My cats are doing well, and the hamster, and our new chickens grin

Gillster Tue 28-May-13 09:09:38

Great I love a list and was beginning to wonder how many berries were squeezed onto the sofa, rug and chaise lounge!

Bunny - 33, Just started cycle 13, awaiting DHs jizz test, FX then referral to FC. Heading into DTD week!

Boom - 31, ttc just over a year, long cycles (40-80days), awaiting jizz test results, need hycosy if AF every shows up, back at gynae clinic to discuss results 21 June.

Happylass -35. Cycle 10. AF due 2nd June-ish though maybe later due to late OV this month. Had initial blood tests with GP.

barkingtreefrog - 33, cycle 18, had (disastrous) HSG, dildo scan & next FC appointment 19th June.

blindkitty 33, ttc 2 years, had blood tests, Hsg, sa (all clear except morphology slightly low). Had 4 rounds of clomid. Iui prob starting in aug

Gillster 39, cycle 15, had HSG last week, tubes clear but awaiting appoinment to have an endometrial polyp removed (hurry up!!!) Still DTD though and anticipate a busy week ahead in this respect. smile

Are Mrs B00m and Barking Manchester based (given your/your family's 10km Great Manchester Run exploits?

GooseyD Tue 28-May-13 09:22:20

Morning all, I've just had a good read of the bank holiday goings on.

haha re the best laid plans smile

A marathon Boom - so impressed!

Bunny and Barking sorry about the bad operation/work trip timing - but might be good to dtd without the pressure when they're around/in fit shape for it! Barking did you find out yet whether you are OK to ttc this month?

Bunny yes I do start to dread shag week most cycles too as often feels like I'm bullying Mr Goose into it, which is v bad for my confidence.

Barking - you mentioned your DP's wife in a post at beginning of weekend. Is he still married or was that a typo and meant to be his brother?

Boodle and Tally sorry to hear you're feeling low (and good on Mr Tally for making things better). I'm also feeling really down and am slightly limiting internet use too to try and lift mood. But also want to see how you're all doing, and get my injection of good vibes from you guys too!

Kitty, Tally and other long term ttcers, I've been round the houses with the moods - I'm over the disbelief and anger at my instadiffing friends for not understanding, which is a big relief. But a new and worrying stage is creeping up on me - I'm not even excited about the idea of having a baby anymore, just worried I'm too old and won't cope. My sister got REALLY bad post natal depression and we do after all share a lot of genes. Sometimes these days I'm more in touch with being gutted about 'being infertile' than I am with being sad that I haven't got a family - and that's just weird.

Kitty have you asked whether NHS would consider putting you forward for ivf straight away without the ivf stage? I guess it's because of your age that they are trying iui first. On other hand - it would be nice to conceive with iui if possible wouldn't it? I'm absolutely dreading ivf.

GooseyD Tue 28-May-13 09:25:13

Bunny - 33, Just started cycle 13, awaiting DHs jizz test, FX then referral to FC. Heading into DTD week!
Boom - 31, ttc just over a year, long cycles (40-80days), awaiting jizz test results, need hycosy if AF ever shows up, back at gynae clinic to discuss results 21 June.
Happylass -35. Cycle 10. AF due 2nd June-ish though maybe later due to late OV this month. Had initial blood tests with GP.
barkingtreefrog - 33, cycle 18, had (disastrous) HSG, dildo scan & next FC appointment 19th June.
blindkitty 33, ttc 2 years, had blood tests, Hsg, sa (all clear except morphology slightly low). Had 4 rounds of clomid. Iui prob starting in aug
GooseyD - 38, 2 years TTC (following 2 years not tta), just postponed taking Clomid for a month though have prescription as I'm not very well 'mentally adjusted' smile at the moment, on waiting list for ivf

GooseyD Tue 28-May-13 09:43:34

Sorry Gillster missed you there - hurriedly posting before colleagues arrived in office!

Bunny - 33, Just started cycle 13, awaiting DHs jizz test, FX then referral to FC. Heading into DTD week!
Boom - 31, ttc just over a year, long cycles (40-80days), awaiting jizz test results, need hycosy if AF ever shows up, back at gynae clinic to discuss results 21 June.
Happylass -35. Cycle 10. AF due 2nd June-ish though maybe later due to late OV this month. Had initial blood tests with GP.
barkingtreefrog- 33, cycle 18, had (disastrous) HSG, dildo scan & next FC appointment 19th June.
blindkitty 33, ttc 2 years, had blood tests, Hsg, sa (all clear except morphology slightly low). Had 4 rounds of clomid. Iui prob starting in aug
Gillster - 39, cycle 15, had HSG last week, tubes clear but awaiting appoinment to have an endometrial polyp removed (hurry up!!!) Still DTD though and anticipate a busy week ahead in this respect. smile
GooseyD - 38, 2 years TTC (following 2 years not tta), just postponed taking Clomid for a month though have prescription as I'm not very well 'mentally adjusted' [smile[ at the moment, on waiting list for ivf

MrsB00Mbastic Tue 28-May-13 09:51:05

Haha thanks for being impressed guys but I only ran 10k - a marathon is out of my league!!

Gillster no, I'm a Yorkshire lass, came over to the dark side for the day! One of my friends who ran with me is from Didsbury so we all piled over smile

Puppy hellooo! AF is such a cow, playing games isn't nice. <whispers> Have you pimped?

Fresh from a fight with --not so--DH. Told him I was going for acupuncture and he launched into a tirade about how 'it hasn't worked so far and how long are you going to give it before you realise she's stringing you along, she keeps saying she'll stimulate a period and she doesn't'. Am I wrong to think this is unfair? I've only been going for two months or so, and I've reduced it to once a fortnight at his request because of the money. It makes me feel so much better when I go because I feel like I'm doing something rather than just sitting around moping, and I usually come out in a much better mood. Now I feel like he's just basically said she's a charlatan and I'm wasting my time. Surely the fact that it makes me feel better should be enough? sad He was really encouraging about it at the start but I think he just always wants instant results.

happylass Tue 28-May-13 09:57:30

Morning Berries. Good to see you back Boodle smile
Sorry AF got you scone. Bit early for the wine. brew do??
Definitely been more relaxed/accepting about the whole lack of BFP for the last few cycles. I think for the first 6-7months I constantly got my hopes up and was devastated when AF turned up each month. Now I think I'd be a lot more shock if I did get a BFP. Still see it happening one way or another but don't think it'll be before we get married next year.
Having said that just come back from GP. Bloods all normal and been referred on. Waiting list is a couple of months but at least things are moving in the right direction and we are in the system - yey!

happylass Tue 28-May-13 10:01:25

Hi Boom cross post. Did my degree in Manchester and LOVE Didsbury smile
You're completely right about the acupuncture. So what if you haven't seen any results yet? If it makes you feel better then go for it. All the vitamins, Conception Plus, Robitussin, BBT-ing and DTD-ing I've been doing since last August haven't had the required effect yet but that doesn't mean I'm going to give them up grin

PuppyMummy Tue 28-May-13 10:30:41

boom I did not pimp. I stay away from pots and sticks as a general rule!

my plan worked (or not) and af has arrived so cd1 again here. ill be honest I'm getting sooooooo bored of this month in month out.
we have our follow up fertility appointment in a couple of weeks and she is going to look at all the blood test and hsg results so that's the next step.
I might just forget the whole thing and get another dog...

MrsB00Mbastic Tue 28-May-13 12:34:22

Ah puppy well done for staying away, wish I had your iron willpower. Sorry she rocked up in the end. I like the dog plan - I've been promised a puppy when I finish this degree and it's clearly going to be another pseudobaby!

Happy good to hear things are going your way! How are the wedding plans going?

Went to acupuncture only to find we'd crossed our wires and she thought I was in tomorrow morning instead. BAH. And DOUBLE BAH. Am stomping around the kitchen in a bad mood with DH, acupuncturist and the world. Although have just made tastiest mackerel pate ever so I'm quite smug about that, might eat it all before horrible DH comes home and I have to share! Aubergine in the oven for baba ghanoush and just about to make guacamole - feeling all domesticated grin

Phoned the gynae clinic to ask if I need to do something about lack of AF and growing unlikelihood of fitting in hycosy before next appt. Doc not even there until Thurs, but apparently there's already a note on the system for her to phone me. Weird. Now I'm going to fret about what she wants until Thursday! Hoping it's not DH's sperm all swimming the wrong way/in circles/not at all..

CharmingCats Tue 28-May-13 12:41:18

It's raining a torrent many things I needed to do, but don't want to get wet! Maybe after lunch...

Boom I understand about the DP vs acupuncture. DH once accused me of enjoying 'throwing money' at things. it wasn't related to ttc - it was at the Back Show when I was looking at special shoes to help back pain. I think he feels I'm some kind of hypochondriac on the hunt for a 'cure'. I have been to nutritionists and osteopaths over the years, but to treat symptoms that were affecting my life. Personally, I haven't found acupuncture helpful in regulating cycles, but I would have continued had I found it beneficial in other ways. I'm having reflexology now, which I much prefer. DH no longer comments, as he knows how hard I'm finding ttc and that these things can help. The money thing is tricky, but if you have already compromised by going less frequently, then I think you're doing all you can. None of these alternative treatments offer quick results, so it is worth persevering, at least until you get to see a consultant who may offer some different treatment/advice.

I think a lot of my cycle issues are down to stress and anxiety (and PCOS). I always wake up with my jaw set and toes tense. Have to concentrate on releasing those muscles.

Gillster - I'm in Yorkshire, but my parents live near Manchester.

Goose - didn't even notice that! Yes, was supposed to be DP's brother. Was obviously thinking 'brother's wife' in my head when thinking SiL to distinguish from my SiL, but then just put wife without realising! DP has never been married as far as I know!!!

puppy - sorry she got you. 'Why don't we just get another dog?' has definitely been a comment heard more than once in this house since ttc became a struggle rather than a thing of excitement!!

It's holiday time, it's raining and we didn't go away as planned because I wasn't feeling up to camping (albeit in a camper van) after my little HSG incident last week. Which means I'm sat inside pretending I'm getting work done to get ahead for next week but actually I'm failing to find van insurance for the camper, putting a couple of things on ebay that probably won't sell anyway, and failing to stay off MN or FB. Grr.

MrsB00Mbastic Tue 28-May-13 14:32:04

I've just made him phone up for his jizz test results - all clear. So I don't have to worry about that I guess. For some reason it's really upset me though, probably because now I know it's me not him. I knew that anyway, but I suddenly feel like rather than 'us' struggling to have a baby it's me stopping him from having kids. Silly Boom. Someone wang me with a sausage, quick!

MrsB00Mbastic Tue 28-May-13 14:39:33

Oh and sorry, didn't mean to ignore everyone!

charming glad you see it the way I do! I don't expect acu to fix all my issues, but it might help improve things a bit, and if it makes me feel better where's the harm? How long have you been having reflexology now? Is it just feet? I'm a bit funny about feet so maybe that wouldn't be for me!

barking sorry you're stuck inside. I'm actually supposed to be writing my dissertation but instead I'm searching for potential new woofers on the Dog's Trust website. There's a gorgeous collie cross that I'm dying to phone up about!! <steps away from the computer for fear of rehoming ALL the dogs>

happylass Tue 28-May-13 15:07:05

<runs in and wangs Boom with giant bratwurst>
So sorry you've been upset Boom. I understand how you're feeling but you musn't blame yourself. Have some brew and flowers.
Wedding planning is going well - thanks for asking! Venue, registrar, cars, photographer, cake, flowers and DJ all sorted. Dress shopping next but going to leave that until August when I'm off school so I'll have more time because I'm a fussy bugger
Plan for today was gym, revision and reports. So far I've defrosted the freezer and had a power hour. Now I need to do a massive food shop as cupboards are bare. Plan not going too well then!

MrsB00Mbastic Tue 28-May-13 15:37:40

Ha happy thanks for the timely wang! Ooh sounds like plans are going well. Wedding dress shopping is great, although I felt like a Muriel's Wedding-style fraud when we went, even though I really was getting married!

My plans for today included acupuncture, dissertation, cleaning the bathroom, removing all my revision junk from the living room where it's been festering for two weeks, and going for a run. Instead I made (and ate) loads of dips, and started searching for rescue dogs online. Can't believe it's £100 to rehome a dog! (Ours came to us through a friend so I've never done it 'officially' before) Makes sense I suppose as they're already chipped/neutered etc but OOF..

<runs in with sausages in both hands and wangs Boom twice>

I can't believe you made me go on the Dogs Trust site!!! I want all the collie crosses!!!! grin

<peeps head back round corner>

So... which one do you want then? Spill!! Seeing as I've got the website open now an' all....

MrsB00Mbastic Tue 28-May-13 16:28:26

Haha! Sorry barking, you're on the slippery slope now! I want Angus, he's so gorgeous AND he's got a cool name!

MrsB00Mbastic Tue 28-May-13 16:30:53

Although he needs an adult only home apparently...well no problems there at the moment ha!

MrsB00Mbastic Tue 28-May-13 16:31:47

Spud is pretty gorgeous too though... <going gooey and itching to phone them>

They're both lovely. Looking on that site just makes me want to quit work and take them all home though...
My dog is a black & white collie x spaniel. I didn't used to be a dog lover but have no idea how I'd cope without him now, I really miss him if we go away for a week and have to leave him behind!

Aquarius1 Tue 28-May-13 16:50:47

Eee there's quite a gang of us yorkshire lasses on'ere int there? (Spot the try hard yorkshire-but-actually-from-the-midlands lass - not sure what my accent is...)

I went on the dogs trust website a while back when I got my af one month and it made me all gooey-eyed. Dh said if we weren't pg in 6 mths he might come round to the idea smile he's not normally a big fan of the idea of having a pet...

Bunnygirlie Tue 28-May-13 20:18:44

Just catching up.....

boom that's rubbish, DH and I have had many squabbles about TTC but just about me pressurising him and being a narky cow when AF arrives. I have been having monthly reflexology apps since December, I started with 4weekly sessions so I've spent quite a bit too but it makes me feel in control a teeny bit and I feel better for having them so i know what you mean. 

happy I was surprised I didn't feel completely devastated getting to 12 months this month, it was weird!

puppy sorry witch arrived!

boom have a very late sausage wang from me! <thwack>

I sponsor a dogs trust pooch! We have agreed we will wait to get one till I am part time, with a child! Like that is ever going to happen hmm

BlindKitty Tue 28-May-13 20:30:31

aquarius I don't know how I'd have survived without my cat these last 2 years. She's my absolute world smile

boom vomming cat is fine, although hasn't vommed on anyone's carpet for a while. Covered in mud atm from digging in the garden!

barking I clearly missed you off on purpose as you're bound to be preggers soon!!!

So met my pregnant friend tonight and did all the pregnancy chit chat, looking at scans etc....and then bam...I burst into tears in the restaurant blush. So annoyed with myself! Apart from with you guys and dh I generally hold it all together. Now I bet she'll constantly feel like she's reading on egg shells!

BlindKitty Tue 28-May-13 21:17:43

Or treading haha

Bunnygirlie Tue 28-May-13 21:18:44

Oh kitty hugs! Did your friend already know you were TTC?

Have you all read about the baby in China, weird how we are all so desparate for a baby and this was flushed down the toilet sad so sad

BlindKitty Tue 28-May-13 21:42:34

bunny yeh and tbf I'm normally fine ish with the exception of bikini bump pictures, etc

The baby story is horrendous! I'd love to be his mummy! X

Aquarius1 Tue 28-May-13 21:52:09

[.... daydreams about working part time and having cat / dog / baby ....]

Kitty poor you - it's good to have a cry though - hope you felt better after

MrsB00Mbastic Tue 28-May-13 22:09:41

Oh I saw that baby in the drain story bunny and couldn't bear it! I can kind of understand that it's obviously an act of desperation but the pictures were just heartbreaking, that poor baby sad sad sad

kitty sorry you had a bit of a public meltdown. It's bound to happen though, it's a lot of emotion to keep bottled up all the time, got to come out somewhere. I'm sure she'll understand!

barking I wasn't planning on ever being a dog owner either but adore our springer. She really needs a buddy though, she's a bit antisocial...I can see a weekend trip to the dogs trust coming on soon!

PuppyMummy Tue 28-May-13 22:19:51

Yorkshire here too! And have a fur-baby spaniel! Crazzzzyyy but my baby!

BlindKitty Tue 28-May-13 22:37:49

Thanks aquarius and boom. Glad I've got it out of my system. No more meltdowns for a while I promise! I defo need bitch slapping with the sausage tonight!

puppy I think if we ever get a dog we'll get a spaniel. I live their big floppy ears and nice natures

BlindKitty Tue 28-May-13 22:38:08


Bunnygirlie Tue 28-May-13 22:38:20

So most berries are either teachers or dog owners or from Yorkshire, or all 3 LOL

I'm not a teacher, I'm from Gloucestershire and I have cats and chickens lol

Tallyra Tue 28-May-13 23:52:26

Well I have a dog and work in a school but live in Kent.
I've spent the day teaching 2 kids to sew, taking ferret back to vet and collecting him, going to my quilting group and then taking dog to the park in the dark and throwing golf balls and not actually having time to eat the dinner I cooked when the girls were here. I need sleep.

please could you add me to the list?

Tallyra, 33, TTC for about 3yrs. 3 mmc, with hg. Appt with fc next week to see what they have to offer test-wise.

Tallyra Wed 29-May-13 01:00:56

now another ferret has escaped for the 3rd night running and we can't figure out how, and the sick one cost us another hundred quid and is still throwing up his meds. if we can't look after a bloody small animal how the hell will we cope with a child?

GooseyD Wed 29-May-13 08:02:18

Bunny - 33, Just started cycle 13, awaiting DHs jizz test, FX then referral to FC. Heading into DTD week!
Boom - 31, ttc just over a year, long cycles (40-80days), awaiting jizz test results, need hycosy if AF ever shows up, back at gynae clinic to discuss results 21 June.
Happylass -35. Cycle 10. AF due 2nd June-ish though maybe later due to late OV this month. Had initial blood tests with GP.
barkingtreefrog - 33, cycle 18, had (disastrous) HSG, dildo scan & next FC appointment 19th June.
blindkitty 33, ttc 2 years, had blood tests, Hsg, sa (all clear except morphology slightly low). Had 4 rounds of clomid. Iui prob starting in aug
Gillster - 39, cycle 15, had HSG last week, tubes clear but awaiting appoinment to have an endometrial polyp removed (hurry up!!!) Still DTD though and anticipate a busy week ahead in this respect. smile
GooseyD - 38, 2 years TTC (following 2 years not tta), just postponed taking Clomid for a month though have prescription as I'm not very well 'mentally adjusted' smile at the moment, on waiting list for ivf
Tallyra, 33, TTC for about 3yrs. 3 mmc, with hg. Appt with fc next week to see what they have to offer test-wise.

Aquarius1 Wed 29-May-13 08:18:26

tally dont worry lass- ferrets are a lot faster and smaller than kids smile

Can someone add me too - haven't managed to log in on a real computer as yet so can't do it myself-

Aquarius - ttc no 1- 13/14 mths- suspected endo, awaiting referred

Aquarius1 Wed 29-May-13 08:21:38

Oops my bus came- posted too soon-

Aquarius- ttc no 1- 13/14 mths - no hint of a bfp yet- suspected endo - awaiting referral to fc and /or dogs trust

GooseyD Wed 29-May-13 08:24:53

Hey Tally I hope you found the ferret? My brothers got lovely ferrets, I hadn't realised how sweet they could be before he got them.

Ah Boom sorry to hear re tiff with DH over acupuncture. Also, I completely understand the strange way hearing DH is all clear can effect you even though you know its really a cause to celebrate. Overall I was just hugely relieved we weren't dealing with even more problems (and that there would be no questions of whether we would go ahead if needed donor sperm) but there was a sneaking insecurity in there too. On the acupuncture front, are you taking Chinese herbs too?

Does anyone know a really good acupuncturist in London? I went for a session yesterday but I'm not sure I would go back and wondered whether to try another place that had been recommended for fertility. Unbelievably he did the old line "maybe if don't think, you pregnant!" smile - I think he was trying to tell me not to be so stressed as it doesn't help which is actually probably a valid point but his English was a bit stretched! grin

Hey Kitty - how did your friend react? Was she OK? After my tearoom meltdown with my friend a while back I've gone back to making sure I keep it together with my friends with kids - as I hate to think they are reading on eggshells grin with me, and decided it doesn't help me feel better anyway. Better by far to chew a Berries ear off! Having said that I'm sure she understands, and there should be no damage done letting it out with your friends, it might actually help to have it out in the open with her. Do you know if they were long TTCing?

Boodle if you're lurking, big hugs, I hope you're feeling better.

GooseyD Wed 29-May-13 08:27:26

Hi Aquarius!

Bunny - 33, Just started cycle 13, awaiting DHs jizz test, FX then referral to FC. Heading into DTD week!
Boom - 31, ttc just over a year, long cycles (40-80days), awaiting jizz test results, need hycosy if AF ever shows up, back at gynae clinic to discuss results 21 June.
Happylass - 35. Cycle 10. AF due 2nd June-ish though maybe later due to late OV this month. Had initial blood tests with GP.
barkingtreefrog - 33, cycle 18, had (disastrous) HSG, dildo scan & next FC appointment 19th June.
blindkitty - 33, ttc 2 years, had blood tests, Hsg, sa (all clear except morphology slightly low). Had 4 rounds of clomid. Iui prob starting in aug
Gillster - 39, cycle 15, had HSG last week, tubes clear but awaiting appoinment to have an endometrial polyp removed (hurry up!!!) Still DTD though and anticipate a busy week ahead in this respect. smile
GooseyD - 38, 2 years TTC (following 2 years not tta), just postponed taking Clomid for a month though have prescription as I'm not very well 'mentally adjusted' smile at the moment, on waiting list for ivf
Tallyra, 33, TTC for about 3yrs. 3 mmc, with hg. Appt with fc next week to see what they have to offer test-wise.
Aquarius - ttc no 1- 13/14 mths - no hint of a bfp yet- suspected endo - awaiting referral to fc and /or dogs trust

MrsB00Mbastic Wed 29-May-13 14:38:30

Well, CD50 has arrived here and no sign of AF! Pimped just in case but of course BFN. Now getting bored of this pointless cycle angry

Been for acupuncture this morning, DH didn't so much as whisper anything as I left so he must have got the message that I'm going and that's that! She seemed a bit nonplussed that my period still hadn't arrived but did some pretty hardcore electro-needling that put my leg into spasm, hopefully that'll wake AF up! goosey I'm not taking herbs, the acupuncturist recommended Maca I think but I've given up with supplements for now; I feel like maybe I went overboard with them early on and did more harm than good!

Nothing further to report. Housework day - meh.

Tally did you find your ferret?

Tallyra Wed 29-May-13 16:26:26

hi guys, thanks for your concern. the ferret came home by himself, just like he has the last 2 nights as well. at least we know he understands he's got it made. trouble is, it means locking the others into one hutch and leaving the other open for him. we have no idea how he's doing it though, or when, as we check them before bed each night. and we have so far spent nearly 450 quid on the sick one. Bloody pets!

BlindKitty Wed 29-May-13 18:22:16

goosey she was great thankfully! She'd got pregnant on her second cycle!

Well guys I clearly lied about not having any more meltdowns...
First meltdown (gym toilets) when gym instructor announced she was having twins
Second meltdown (work toilets) when called fc nurse for a sympathetic ear only to have her talk down to me

Fortunately, no one saw me! Wondering if the clomid is having an effect on my mood this month as not usually such a head case! I'm due af but I'm not usually pre-menstrual although dh never needs to know as I'm sure I've used it as an excuse for being a witch before

BlindKitty Wed 29-May-13 18:30:02

tally glad your ferret came home. We do love our babies! X

Tallyra Wed 29-May-13 19:02:06

sending hugs to you kitty. how did she talk down to you? surely she realises people on their books are delicate emotionally??

Bunnygirlie Wed 29-May-13 19:50:49

aquarius 'oops my bus came' is that a euphemism wink

tally I take your £450 and raise it by several 1000, one of our kitty's got hit by car a few years ago and due to wrong levels of insurance cost us a packet!!! But we would have done anything to make her better!

kitty I did read that clomid can affect moods, gawd help me and my colleagues if I end up on it, I am moody enough already!

Ladies, I have a conundrum, DHs colleague is unable to make the conference he is going to so he asked me to go to help. It means working over a weekend and long days but does mean we might get a few bonus shags in at the end of my fertile period, do I go or not?!? 

Aquarius1 Wed 29-May-13 21:06:10

Ha hahaaa haha
Not a euphemism bunny but that made me giggle... what about all this ferret talk- surely there's a euphemism in there somewhere?? wink

Yeah bunny go on the conference - does it mean free food / drink /hotel too??

Kitty if its any consolation I've been crazy moody this week & I'm not even on clomid- just in 2ww- and announcing Twins - ffs - I'd have either had a break down or walked off in a huff and thought evil thoughts about her (yes I know I sound like a 13 yr old- I'm that spotty right now I prob look like one too)

happylass Wed 29-May-13 21:29:10

Evening Berries. Glad the ferret has been located Tally!!
Bunny if its still shag week I would say 100% yes to doing the conference! Otherwise for me it would depend on where and how hard I'd have to work - that's my criteria for deciding whether to accompany DP on work trips or not!
Quick question - do you all use jacuzzis, saunas etc during the 2ww? Got a spa day on tomorrow and not sure what to do for the best. Dr Google is giving conflicting advice confused

MrsB00Mbastic Wed 29-May-13 21:35:08

Aw kitty have some chocolate <hands out posh chocs stolen from the midwives' staff room> I don't blame you, I'd have had a few fits with all that going on. Twins - double whammy sad. What did the nasty moose at the fc say to you? You'd have thought they could have a bit of sensitivity when dealing with ttc-ers.

bunny yeah go to the conference, bit of a change of scenery and a bit more bonking smile

Glad tally's ferret made it home safe! Desperately trying to come up with a good ferret-related innuendo...

I'm in a right rubbish mood tonight. I've been really good at keeping my mind off ttc but today I've found myself obsessed with everything that's wrong with me and having a bit of a sobbing session with the dog. I'm so frustrated with the lack of speed things are moving at! The doctor at the clinic is supposed to be calling me tomorrow I think, maybe she'll have an update for me...

Seems like we're all a bit crazy and emotional at the there a full moon behind all these rainclouds??