Brooking No Argument that we'll get BFPs from our Easter Eggs

(996 Posts)
BeedlesPineNeedles Fri 22-Mar-13 11:17:33

Well done keep I hope its the first of many grin grin

Right who's next with the BFP???

keepitgoing Fri 22-Mar-13 11:19:32

Oops, I did one too, but prefer yours, so let's go with this one.

When's Easter? <goes off to Google>

we've moved where are we?

GreenOlives Fri 22-Mar-13 11:21:30

grin grin grin grin grin Fabulous news keep - you see a line really is a line ! wink And Friday is absolutely THE best day to get a bfp! Congratulations to you and MrKeep! thanks thanks

BeedlesPineNeedles Fri 22-Mar-13 11:22:14

Easter is next weekend keep

BeedlesPineNeedles Fri 22-Mar-13 11:25:51

Oh and keep I thought you must be waiting for a few moments away from MrKeep before you could tell us, though I did like the thought of you getting the result from the doc, and then immediately whipping out your phone to update us whilst still in the with the doc grin

keepitgoing Fri 22-Mar-13 11:25:57

Next weekend?! I've not had one single easter egg! There are none her. Normal chocolate is not the same...

I am not impressed with boots test, given my hcg levels are quite good...

keepitgoing Fri 22-Mar-13 11:27:26

Oh, I think geek is due this weekend...

Love the new chocolatey thread Beedle smile coming back to say even more yay and congratulations Keep

keepitgoing Fri 22-Mar-13 11:28:28

beedle I snuck off to the loo but no signal there... So had to wait till we got home. I was fretting for you smile

Solars Fri 22-Mar-13 11:28:38

Yay!!! Eggggcellent assisted rat smacking Keep grin thanks thanks Now rest up and enjoy the rest of your time in Thailand!

BeedlesPineNeedles Fri 22-Mar-13 11:29:00

I was in the English shop here last weekend, but I didn't spot the creme eggs and mini eggs until we were on our way out. I think I may need another trip there this weekend grin

ControlGeek Fri 22-Mar-13 11:32:02

<place marking> Thank you for our new home beedle, may it bring us as much luck as sweetie's brought keep smile

that's wonderful news keep thanks
must be why af seems to be here hmm

BeedlesPineNeedles Fri 22-Mar-13 11:45:24

Sorry she's making an unwelcome visit to you cartoon but its good that your cycle has returned to normal so quickly. have you made any decisions about trying this month?

beedle I think its odd I only had the erpc on the 12th but Dr google and my actual gp seem to be in agreement that that's what it is. I was worried I had retained products.
the sensible part of me says wait the other part wants to TTC now.

Cartoon may I be a voice of reason and say if it was me I would wait for the results to come in first.

Do you think the chocolate on this thread would annoy my gd <gives the thread a lick to test it out> grin

<glares at boo even though I know she's right>
(but we did have a slip up on sundayblush )

ScarlettInSpace Fri 22-Mar-13 12:31:20

Nice one keep well done x

Witch is circling here too, on the one hand I'm pleased this cycle is nearly over and on the other I can't help feeling like it's such a pointless bodily function hmm I'm just going to stuff my face with chocolate & hot cross buns and wine> Big decision of the day is whether to stuff chicken tonight with blue cheese or pate [think blue cheese is winning]

cartoon my best friend's PG sadly ended at 23 weeks last month, she has got straight back on the TTC wagon, I think she should at least give it one natural cycle but she is adamant, I guess it's up to you ateotd

Oh and I've been working in my onesie all morning blush must go get dressed...

NoCupcakesOrCocktails Fri 22-Mar-13 12:36:42

OMFG Keep what fantastic news. Well done gringringrin
I'm so happy for you & MrKeep

I'm at work (have used my break to find signal to check up on Keep smile) so ill have to go. Catch up with you rat smackers later.

scarlet that's so sad, your poor friend. there are do many different opinions on whether to wait or not. if it wasn't for having the chromosome tests done I would defo be trying now.

Withalittlesparkle Fri 22-Mar-13 12:39:46

Yay yay yay keep this is the best most fabulously awesome news in the world ever!!!!! Hands up who knew keeps pregnancy would overlap her sisters

<waves hands wildly>

ScarlettInSpace Fri 22-Mar-13 12:53:07

sparks did you actually put your hand up in your office lol

< waves hands like a crazy person> I knew it too!! [Smug emoticon]

Withalittlesparkle Fri 22-Mar-13 13:34:35

Scarlett I'm off sick sad so I did it from the safety of my bed!!!

BartletForTeamGB Fri 22-Mar-13 14:01:48

What wonderful news to end the last thread on Keep! So, so pleased for you! Worrying is not going to make anything bad more or less likely to happen so enjoy it. Today YOU ARE PREGNANT! grin grin

cartoon, I was still bleeding at my 6 week visit to get results from my consultant so TTC wasn't really a possibility, but I have to be honest and say that we didn't wait. We sort of went for a not trying but not using contraception approach until things settled down, but we've always had fairly lax views on contraception (hence 3 pregnancies in three years of marriage!).

boo, the chocolate on the thread is completely GDM friendly so lick away! grin

Withalittlesparkle Fri 22-Mar-13 15:03:29

Have any of you seen 'what to expect when expecting' I avoided while TTC but watched it last night and its actually very good! A mixture of ttc stories and bits that made me actually look at matt and burst out laughing because that's exactly what I'd done

I avoided that film while TTC too sparks but I loved it. I was all teary when j-lo got her baby

bartlett us to really.preg 3 times and only known eachother 1yr 11months. the desire to be preg again is just so strong isn't it.

NoCupcakesOrCocktails Fri 22-Mar-13 15:44:35

Hello again, I love the new thread smile

Happy BFP Friday everyone (especially Keep). I'm off to the in laws in a few hours so need to get packing. Hope everyone has a lovely weekend.

keep I'm having celebratory wine and chip shop tea for u. (since u can't have the wine)

ControlGeek Fri 22-Mar-13 19:44:26

I am joining cartoon with celebrating for keep with all the things she can't have. Spotting and cramps today so I guess I'll be doing the weekend's upgrafe work with the witch for company.

Is it sinking in yet keep? Does it feel real?

Solars Fri 22-Mar-13 20:00:14

I'm also joining Geek & Face in a celebratory solitary glass of wine & although not forbidden fennel & courgette risotto. DH has left me alone to go off to his course in Milan, I shall be joining him on Sunday.

Sorry about cramping and spotting Geek does work get easier after this weekend?

Sweetie hope you're having a lovely holiday

Cups hope you have a lovely weekend with the in laws.

Lovely to see Munx, Bartlett, Musical & Olives

Thanks for the lovely new thread Beedle

Still grin for you Keep

Big waves to Maybe, Scarlett, Boo & Sparkes hope I've not missed anyone!

ControlGeek Fri 22-Mar-13 20:33:15

Home at last, slightly earlier than planned and marginally ahead of schedule on the work front smile

sparks I've not seen it, MrG would never watch it in a million years and I've nobody else to watch it with <billy no mates> The reviews sound very good though.

cartoon Be kind to yourself. I know the waiting's hard but best to have answers first so that you can give yourself some kind of reassurance when you get your next BFP. Otherwise you'll only be worrying yourself.

scarlett A onesie? You? or anyone for that matter! Oh dearie me...

solars fennel and courgette risotto sounds amazing! Might have to put that on the list for the summer when hopefully we will have our own homegrown veggies again smile Yes, thank you, next week will be brilliant because I have the whole thing booked off as annual leave until after the bank holiday. The way I'm feeling now, I will need that time just to get over the last week or so.

Right, so! So far on the cards for my week off are: catalog all of our DVDs, get back on top of the housework and if the weather eases up make a start on clearing some of the garden up a bit.

What's everyone else's plans?

Withalittlesparkle Fri 22-Mar-13 21:22:15

Geek mrS only sort of watched it to begin with but then was really rather engrossed by the end of the film

keepitgoing Sat 23-Mar-13 04:43:09

Morning all smile
Thank you all so much for your support, good brooking and congratulations yesterday. It means a lot x. It feels very unreal, like we're playing a game or something. I am just so happy, even though I am all too aware from being a brooker that things can go wrong, I am so happy I can actually get pregnant. We were allowing ourselves to get a bit carried away yesterday, but I am still trying to do the one-step-at-a-time thing. I want to tell my mum, as I know she's worried about me, but think we'll tell them after 6 weeks when it's a bit less precarious.

Woke up this morning to see dh looking at me saying 'you're 4+1, you're going to be a mum grin'. I know so much about TTC, next to nothing about pregnancy!

For those wondering, my only symptoms are sore boobs, and windy blush I think both are from my twice daily progesterone pessaries. Nice.

geek I'm so sorry the evil witch is circling. Cataloguing DVDs? You make me grin

solars I hope you have a brill time in Milan. Will you be shopping up a storm? How long are you there for?

cup good luck for your visit to the in-laws. Any news from your mum?

face it must be hard, but I agree it makes sense to wait for the results before TTC. I love camping/caravanning and hope you have a brill time next weekend but isn't it snowing at the moment How's mrFace doing with it all?

sweetie enjoy your last hold just the two of you! smile I am so excited for your treatment.

Thanks to Bartlett munx olives musical gen for night time soothing and knowledge of lying pee sticks. See, they sell lying ones all over the world!

keepitgoing Sat 23-Mar-13 04:46:29

You know how people say 'I only have to look at my husband to get pregnant' grr.

I can rejoin 'I don't even need to be in the same room as my husband to get pregnant' grin

Assisted rat smacking - take it away, girls!


keep that made me grin .
I'm ignoring the snow, its snowing right this second. it will be lovely weather next weekend cos I said so.
dh isn't too Good he doesnt see the point of anything anymore and is scared of trying again.

keepitgoing Sat 23-Mar-13 07:05:46

Well its so recent, you need some time. I hope it will be helpful answers you get next month. You can do it, face, you will. Take care of each other.

At least its not a tent. We went camping in demon at Easter a few years ago, it snowed, and we went to a b&b! Caravan will be cosy. But anyway, by next weekend the weather will be gorgeous!

keepitgoing Sat 23-Mar-13 07:06:25

For demon read devon. Camping in demon would be warm...

GreenOlives Sat 23-Mar-13 07:31:24

keep grin grin at not having to be in the same room!! grin

ControlGeek Sat 23-Mar-13 08:11:25

keep I actually snorted my coffee when I read your 'not being in the same room' comment grin and as for it snowing in demon, does that mean that hell has finally frozen over?

Tis snowing here too brookers. Bloody typical. I adore the snow - I know, I'm probably the only person in the country who does - and I am so annoyed that I have to work a stupidly long day on practically the one saturday of the year when we get real, genuine, proper stick-down snow.

BeedlesPineNeedles Sat 23-Mar-13 08:21:34

keep grin at not in the same room. Have you got any visitors coming in the next few weeks that you'll want to hide the news from?

geek sorry you have to work, I love snow too but we don't have any. I won't complain too much though as the weather here has been lovely for ages, cold but really sunny.

Hope everyone has a lovely weekend

Geek you aren't alone. The pup and I love the snow. It's the best.

Keep that proper made me chuckle.

Sparks I haven't seen it but my mum just got it so think we shall be watching it soon

We had our appointment yesterday. They want to start us next cycle and we were so excited. Then I worked out dates and we can't cos of my brothers wedding. We were gutted. Have to call them Monday to push it back.

<leaves hot buttered crumpets for all with pots of steaming tea>

<gives the thread another lick grin

I love the snow too, but can't enjoy it at all this time sad if I manage not to fall over in it then the effort of walking really makes my hips and pelvis hurt I want this Booby out NOW

Keep I'm still super excited for you grin

Geek when do you start your leave?

Maybe bloody typical you have to move the start date, but yay, your good to go, won't be long now smilesmile

<grabs a brew waddles off to look at the snow out of the window>

SweetieTime Sat 23-Mar-13 11:26:25

keep congratulations thanks thanks thanks thanks thanks sorry i missed the live announcement. So how you feeling to be an official preggo? Well done you and mrk too. grin grin at not even needing to be in same room

Bye for now, i have sun bathing tobe doing wink

Withalittlesparkle Sat 23-Mar-13 14:49:34

Is every one else ignoring sweetie? Considering we've just had to clear a foot and a half of snow drift from our front step!!!!

Withalittlesparkle Sat 23-Mar-13 14:50:35

Geek and boo you can totes have my share of the snow if you like!! I hate it!!

Sweetie? Sweetie who? wink

Nope, not seen any posts from Sweetie, are you imagining it Sparks grin

keepitgoing Sat 23-Mar-13 15:36:49

It's a bit hot outside here for sunbathing, esp if you've been told not to swim by a consultant... We are gearing up for summer here. Sorry ;)

maybe that is annoying you have to wait another cycle. At what point would the wedding be? Is there really no way... But either way it won't be long!

beedle no visitors till my parents mud May, when I'd be about 11 weeks I think. But they've known our issues just not when we planned to do ivf, so I think I'll tell family at 6/7 weeks if all goes well. Not sure.

Withalittlesparkle Sat 23-Mar-13 15:46:35

Keep I told my mum at about 7 weeks, she knew we'd got a fertility clinic appt and was doing all sorts of research on PCOS! I took her the letter about my first scan, I asked for her opinion she read it cus she thought it was related to ttc then it took a few mins and she just broke down! She knew it was early days but I'd have needed her strength if anything went wrong!!

<takes cushion off Keeps chair in the grads thread> you will have to stop that sort of posting if you want your cushions when you move in with us wink

I think I was about 8 weeks when I told my mum and brother, my best friend knew just after the bfp (because of that stupid MN/FB stalker)

keepitgoing Sat 23-Mar-13 16:05:06

Boo I seem to remember your nerves too ;)

I just don't want her to worry through this bit too sparks (though I know she's worried now. Mums for you!). Maybe once we've seen a heartbeat. I agree, as I would tell them if sth went wrong too.

Boo I remember that dreadful stalker. Weirdo.

Night all x

keepitgoing Sat 23-Mar-13 16:06:19

Plus, my sister will go crazy with excitement.

JenFreggle Sat 23-Mar-13 20:24:27

That's amazing news Keep!

We've had no snow here, just rain. Today has been dry though so we've spent the day geocaching

Just marking place and still excited for Keep! I have to live vicariously thru you lot now.

Maybe, sorry you have to delay a cycle but I'm brooking no argument that you'll be diffed straight away.

So excited for all the other assisted brookers too. Love and brooking to you all x

keepitgoing Sun 24-Mar-13 10:42:31

Thanks gen and Jen. Will you be rejoining brookers, like musical? Though gen's a bit recent.

Right, I want a list on assisted brooking...
Solars, monitoring cycle next month
Beedle, ivf appointment v soon...
Sweetie, ET in April
Maybe, icsi the cycle after next
Geek, can't remember... But soon
Cupcakes, ivf in next few months, brooking for soon
Scarlett, iui coming up
Cartoon, taking a break

At least that's it in my head? Who did I forget?

keep I need a list of short explainations <thick emoticon> iui, icsi etc? although I have a feeling I may be finding out about some of these soon. actually I think I know the iui don't ihmm

keepitgoing Sun 24-Mar-13 11:31:18

keep's guide to assisted brooking conception:

Iui, squirt sperm up your chuff

Ivf, make lots of eggs if poss, fertilise in a dish, pop an embryo/s back

ET embryo transfer, ie when they put the embryo back. As sweeties using donor eggs she won't do the stimulation part if ivf.

Icsi, like ivf only they inject one sperm into the egg, rather than just swishing them around. Used if male factor issues.

I think it highly unlikely you will need any of these, face, as you get preg easily. They sometimes test the embryos for genetic abnormalities before putting them back, this is called pgd, but I think its unlikely you'll need that, sweetheart. That's normally if you're both a carrier or have a genetic disease.

thanks keep that should help me say the right things and brook properly. ill have to keep re-posting it so I can refer back.
in other news yesterdays pee stick decided I was still pregnant. not sure if it should be negative yet or not really.

Withalittlesparkle Sun 24-Mar-13 16:24:06

Face are you meant to be testing? You may be putting yourself under unnecessary stress

Face I had 3 erpcs and it usually took 6 wk or so to get a -ve, so don't worry. you'll be TTC again soon.

6 wks gen, really didn't think it could take so long. other times I've got my period exactly 4 wks later but I've got a feeling this will be longer.
no sparks but I do it to give me an idea of when my cycle will start up again. bit silly this time really as I'm not ttc right now so it doesn't matter.

I understand why you would want to know where you are in your cycle. Bear in mind it may take a bit longer this time as you were a bit further on. I found that anyway. Hope you're doing ok chuck x

keepitgoing Mon 25-Mar-13 03:47:17

You were much further along, face, and hcg would have been at least 20,000, so it's not surprising if it takes a while to go down. hcg geek alert

I po2s this morning. One was the stupid boots variety I used the other day. Positive, but not as strong as the control. Do not buy boots value. The other was a just-ou-of-date (sigh) one from uk. Positive right away. The second was in the interests of science...

No more now. Blood test on Friday anyway.

Hope everyone had a lovely weekend. X

Keep I did a couple of tests too one a day for about 2 weeks blush I liked seeing the line get darker grin

NoCupcakesOrCocktails Mon 25-Mar-13 09:47:59

Morning Brookers

I hope everyone had a nice weekend. We had a bit of a rubbish one. Some very close friends of ours have lost their baby at 19 weeks. We are so sad for them. We ended up staying at home on Friday & going to the inlaws on Saturday as we went to see our friends instead. I'm so upset for them, this is their second loss (the other was at around 7 weeks). Life seems so very cruel sometimes.

Keep I hope you and DH had a lovely weekend. I'm still so excited for you smile

Oh by the way I will be doing ICSI not IVF

Maybe I'm gutted that you'll have to wait a cycle. Is it because your DBro is getting married abroad? Is it in Italy?

Cartoon hope you are doing ok.

Geek you are putting in some very long hours at work! I hope the end is in sight. How is dink boss doing?!

NoCupcakesOrCocktails Mon 25-Mar-13 09:50:39

Oops pressed send to soon

Sweetie hope you are having a fab holiday

Solars when are you joining DH?

I'm so jealous, I really really want to go on holiday. Hopefully when we have more of an idea when ICSI will be happening we can plan something.

keepitgoing Mon 25-Mar-13 10:42:13

Oh cup how awful for them. sad

JenFreggle Mon 25-Mar-13 11:40:46

Right, you lot. Somebody is hiding AF when she is supposed to be here with me. I'm on cd34 now and am getting fed up of wondering when she is going to turn up. Own up, who has her cos it is my turn?

Cup that's so sad. How are they doing? Yes, it's cos my bro is getting married in Italy. And the risk is I'd me needing collection an transfer when we are away. We are gutted. Just feels like nothing is going our way

Keep I love an experiment. We need a constant update on sensible pee sticks for when we need them. When is your scan?

keepitgoing Mon 25-Mar-13 11:50:45

jen....... Care to join my science experiments?...

maybe I just had to change it, now Saturday morning. It's a bugger about the cycle, but you wouldn't want the extra stress of timing on top of everything else. So when will cd1 of The Cycle be, roughly?

In my experience - go with internet cheapies, then with something more expensive believable after that. I think they're the most sensitive. But I ran out of them, so have never seen how long it takes to get a strong line.

JenFreggle Mon 25-Mar-13 12:17:27

I may have a couple of pee sticks left over from DD but have no plans for using them.

Maybe how lovely that you get a nice trip to Italy for your DB's wedding just before you become pregnant and will therefore be unable to travel so easily. A Feb baby rather than a Jan one hopefully I counted right then gives you that little bit longer after the Christmas rush to get ready for all those sleepless nights, explosive nappies etc smile

Jen you make me grin

You are right. Plus I believe it means prosecco and Campari!

Keep ill he starting on CD21 as I'm in long protocol, so will start jabbing when in in Italy! So end of may. I think that gives me a march baby? Not sure though. If someone would likt to figure that out for me.....

Mon26 Mon 25-Mar-13 12:52:29

Hello Ladies! Happy Easter. I Just logged in again and mainly to seek some help in a different forum. But had to let you know that my BFP turned to be another miscarriage started yesterday... 4th one.

Anyways, I am moving to another thread to see if someone has been where I am before and has some successful story.

Best of luck to all you brooking!

I'm so sorry to hear that Mon. Hope you are being well looked after x

Mon26 Mon 25-Mar-13 14:29:33

nomaybeaboutit thank you!
DH is very mice and he is being very supportive. I also try to be strong and support hi , since I know he is also sad and wanting it as much as I want.

Well, nothing else left to do than ... chin up and keep going! hiding the sadness it will hopefully disappear...

Congratulations to all those who have and will soon get B(and super lasting)FP! And those like me, let's put a smile in our faces and never never give up (I am really typing a script here to convince myself.... but hey, if we don't create a happy habit to become happier who will do it for us?!)

greetings from the pit of despair and crying moments.

Withalittlesparkle Mon 25-Mar-13 14:45:06

So sorry for your loss, be kind to yourself! No one expects you to bounce back straight away so don't bottle your emotions up.

Mon26 Mon 25-Mar-13 14:52:11

Whitalittlespark thank you! the idea of me bouncing like a bouncing ball as disheveled as I feel and I probably am, made me laugh! You are right.. but i am afraid to become monUnchained if I let all my emotions go at once... perhaps, umh.. i thought that some counseling or similar could do me good. The gym will help guess but not sure how soon I can go back to swimming pool et cetera to avoid infections? ... anyways, again waiting for better times.

Let's better off leave space here for all those happy ones who soon will be bringing happier news!

Thanks for listening and for your support.

sorry to hear that mon
I had a missed miscarriage 2weeks ago now at 12weeks. I'm still miserable. want to be sad together?

Mon26 Mon 25-Mar-13 15:25:32

cartoontrickster yes! let's get over soon crying our hearts out!
smile trying to make you smile.
Perhaps this can make you laugh at me... just came back from the scan (futile use of time because i told him I knew it was a miscarriage but he wanted anyways - he is a great doctor at Viveka, he was in charge of the Monitored Cycle - i seem to ovulate well...) and after lunch with all my sillyness in me I thought I could try some of the whisky collection my husband keeps at home, ha! I had a big sip and no more! It made me laugh and cry afterwards. But here we are trying. Trying to inspire myself back to work I even thought about stopping to get advise from a psychic ... ahahah! i am lost, gone.

But dear cartoontrickster cheer up and lean towards the positive thoughts. Hang in there, cry if you must, but don't forget that there two little angels (or more if they end up being twins one day) that are up there waiting to become our son/daughters. We find it difficult to believe it, but they say we will get there and many have, so... never never give up.

If I try any more whiskey I will let you know guys, but although Islay are good whiskeys, I definitively have not the body to drink it... smile I will have to get my self to a spa or a Mediterranean vacation, or something cheap...or perhaps, I will just sleep tight to my husband to cheer up....

cartoontrickster let's cry if we need to, but let's not over worry. i think that if we overworry too much we send wrong info to our body, mind and hormones. Let's go to the hairdresser....? why don't you go? a new haircut a new colour? let's get a new something? do you think it will help (because whenever anyone of my family calls, I start crying.

I am actually going to an Hipnotherapy session this evening to see if I can stop worrying. booked it when I was pregnant (last week...) thinking that it would help to overcome my worries,.. and now I will use it to feel secure and in tune with my body....

But, please, hang in there and be happy. know how hard it is. so, let's try to be put and cry if we have to, but let's try to be positive.

mon you have made me laugh, perhaps step away from the whisky.
I feel good knowing that the NHS will help now as this is my 3rd loss. so at least next time I won't be paying for private treatment. I'm just so frustrated now and want to get on with trying again.
you know what mon one of my first thoughts was to drastically change something, hair is always what springs to mind first. but I actually had my hair done just before it happened. so I'm going with decorating the spare room after a little saving up as I've booked a holiday so am broke for a bit now!

Mon26 Mon 25-Mar-13 16:33:35

cartonntrickster I am glad I made you laugh,.. and yes, whiskey is left behind.. ahah! I can't say I didn't try.... hehe

That is good to hear that you are in good hands now. In January I had my third miscarriage and I scheduled a visit with a nutritionist specialist in fertility and also got the referral from the NHS, I was referred to the Elizabeth Garrett unit in Euston road but I re-scheduled for personal reasons to the Westminster/Chelsea hospital and I have my appointment on the 2nd week of April. In the meantime the nutritionist recommended me to have a monitored cycle, and I fell pregnant with this 4th, the ultrasound dr said it could be a progesterone issue... but then today mentioned that perhaps could be something else. Anyway, short story, we seem to be in the same path to the NHS so let's see how it goes for us.

I just booked a hairdresser (organic colouring in High Barnet Daniel Field) for Wednesday morning,... ! I felt compelled to it. Well, in your case another hairdresser isn't necessary and you are all set for a holiday, that is good. You have plenty in your hand: enjoy the creativity of redecorating that room, and the holiday! I envy you! see? "Always look at the bright side of life, tara tarara tararara!"

At the end of the day, though, I dread the moment of going to bed and having all those thoughts jumping on me... that's why I insist we need to keep positive!

I should try to book a vacation,... I long for a warm weather, white sands, cristalline waters... I wish!

cartoontricktser you are doing well! and stay away from the whiskey no matter what! hehehe

we are waiting for our blood test results now to see if there's a chromosome issue with one of us, should be in about 4wks time now.
I've been having the odd glass of wine I have to admit. but trying not to as being tipsy only makes me feel worse.
glad uve book in to get ur hair done!
I've been feeling a wardrobe overhaul too. I always want to do these sorts of things when I'm upset have no idea why!
part of me wants to sit around and stuff my fave and drink wine, but have put on a stone and barely own any clothes that fit now so not such a good idea.

keepitgoing Tue 26-Mar-13 02:01:32

Mon I'm so sorry for your loss. I was just wondering where you'd got to the other day.. Good on you for the positive, brooking, attitude. You will get there. But don't not grieve as well. X

BeedlesPineNeedles Tue 26-Mar-13 05:30:46

cups so sorry about your friend's baby. I'd like to think I could cut down on the worrying if I had got that far.

Mon sorry about your loss too. I hope you can get some answers, and even better some treatment so it doesn't happen again

I got home last night to two letters from the clinic, 1 saying they had finally put us on the waiting list hmm and the other saying they had tried to call ( they could have tried one more time! ) as they need a few more blood tests before we can start IVF. So I'm off to get those done this morning.

Beedle a letter at last! That's brilliant news. What are waiting times like out there?

Morning other brookers. How is everyone? We are very thin on te ground. How dare people go on holiday wink

Hope you're having fun Solars and Sweetie

Cups how are you doing? I can't remember if you said you had a start date for te ICSI yet.

BeedlesPineNeedles Tue 26-Mar-13 09:11:03

maybe I know, finally a letter. I was hoping it would be a date for an appointment, but at least we're getting there. In theory we should get an appointment within 3 months of the referral (which should have been in January) they have backdated us so I'm expecting we'll get the appointment soon. Me going for extra blood tests this morning was because a dr had been looking through our referral and noticed I hadn't had my thyroid levels checked. So I will be even more obsessively checking the post box after Easter and I hope we'll start in May.

keep how is everything with you?

has anyone got anything nice planned for Easter? Other than those people that we're not talking to who are already somewhere hot and sunny grin

Withalittlesparkle Tue 26-Mar-13 09:37:26

Yay a letter beedle, that's a step in the right direction!!

I'm meant to be heading north over Easter but given the current climate I might stay in bed with a hot water bottle

keepitgoing Tue 26-Mar-13 10:30:33

About blooming time, beedle! That's great news. How long's the waiting list? Is it just for the appointment, or for the ivf after that too?

BeedlesPineNeedles Tue 26-Mar-13 11:57:03

keep I think that once we have the appointment we'll start straight away - well at the right point in my cycle. Though if it was delayed so that ET wouldn't be done before the end of June, we probably won't get to start until August as everything stops in July. So fingers crossed for May.

ControlGeek Tue 26-Mar-13 14:08:05

beedle that's excellent news about your appointment, though I agree they could have tried ringing more than once. Brooking for a pre-July IVF for you smile

mon I'm so sorry you've had to go through that again. Be kind to yourself, and I hope you manage to get some answers and your sticky bean soon.

keep Loving your list smile I'm hoping to hear about my ICSI kick-off appointment in about a month.

Sorry, I can't remember anything else that I have just read confused AF landed here with a bang last Saturday and is still going strong. I thought I had painful cramps before the lap, but this first post-op cycle is like something else entirely. I think one of my stitches might have a little infection, too, which is really cheering me up no end. Day 2 of my annual leave and all I've done is lie in bed and played on the laptop.

<waves to maybe keep solars sparks boo jen (ps AF's here, please come and collect her at will) cartoon sweetie cup and leaves MrG's homemade bread out for all>

keepitgoing Wed 27-Mar-13 09:53:28

beedle I remember everything closing down for you last July. But how ridiculous that means June is out basically too. I am brooking for late April, to give us some brooking leeway! smile

Oh geek I'm sorry for AF arriving, and the pain. An infection could be worrying, see the GP if you need to, lovely. Enjoy your a/l!

JenFreggle Wed 27-Mar-13 10:12:47

Geek if I pm you my address can you send AF in the post or something? It's cd36 here now...

Beedle brooking that the July shutdow won't affect you as you will already be pregnant by then

BeedlesPineNeedles Wed 27-Mar-13 11:12:12

jen when AF is late on this fred its considered good manners to POAS - just saying so you know grin

geek hope you feel better soon, perhaps a trip to see the doc if you think it might be an infection.

Is there anyone on here who's not already my friend on FB that plays Candy Crush Saga? The lovely geek has already helped me but my real-life friends that play haven't responded, so I thought there might be some other brookers that play that might like to be my friend <billy-no-mates emoticon>

ScarlettInSpace Wed 27-Mar-13 15:59:22

Just to let you all know AF will be on the hunt somewhere to stay again soon as after 3 horrible painful unusually heavy days I seem to be progressing with her eviction order so may be able to manage some SFF over easter bloody better had do, I just spent £16 in hotel chocolat on easter treats for OH today FREE FROM BOOBACHE YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!!!! I've told the witch that it's much warmer in the SW jen and to get her broomstick down there pronto wink

Now, serious question, do I temp & OPK this month or do I ditch it as its pointless anyway and just try to have a month off from TTC. Despite now taking TWELVE supplimentary tablets of various description per day now blush. My skin has never looked so good though grin

<ignores sweetie sunbathing and generally flaunting big yachts & fast cars on the internet envy >

beedles I have managed to resist candy crush so far...

musicalmrs Wed 27-Mar-13 17:17:53

Beedles are we friends? I'll happily be a Candy Crush friend! (we may be friends already, sorry, losing track!)

<waves at everyone else>

BeedlesPineNeedles Thu 28-Mar-13 07:03:03

Woohoo I have a new friend grin

keep is it your scan tomorrow or Saturday?

scarlett I'd have a month off the opks and temping. In fact I haven't done either for ages, but as my cycle hardly varies at all I don't think it really matters. And my "relaxing" hasn't got me pregnant yet either hmm

Its a half day at work here so I had better get on and do soemthing grin

keepitgoing Thu 28-Mar-13 09:57:06

beedle I have no idea what you're on about... Candy crush?!

My scan's now first thing on Sat, along with repeat blood test for hcg.

Scarlett I'd probably take the cycle off and just shag a lot. Glad your boobs aren't sore at last!

Has everyone seen the exciting post-grad news?!

TheLittleFriend Thu 28-Mar-13 11:41:18

Keep I've missed your bfp, congratulations!! gringrinthanks

keepitgoing Fri 29-Mar-13 04:23:09

Thanks little! Hope all is well with your two x

am leaving mumsnet. bye.

SweetieTime Fri 29-Mar-13 07:21:06

OMG I pop away for a while and you guys go and get yourselves not one BFP but 2!!! Just greedy I say, even though one was a bit lot of a shock. Well fingers crossed there are a few more in the coming weeks.

I think the list keep put together was an excellent reminder where everyone is.

Beedle my parents are Candy Crush addicts they say it keeps their old brains active I could ask them to be your virtual friends if you like?

Keep good luck with the scan tomorrow, do they scan you super early over there or are you 7 weeks already?

Geek has AF gone now? Hope she has left you now to get on with things. Are you seeing the Dr about the infection? Don't take any chances, you must look after yourself.

I looooovvvvvvved my hollibobs, just what the Dr ordered. Although I did get my meds a bit mixed up, I think I ended up taking too many wine confusion wasn't involved - honest I am going for a womble scan on Thursday but expect a call from the clinic to let me know AF has arrived with the donor and she has started her jabs!!! There was a time many moons ago when I would have thought it very bizarre to be told of another persons AF arrival. Now it is really nothing strange at all - how times change.

<waves to everyone else and leaves buttered toasted hot cross buns>

SweetieTime Fri 29-Mar-13 07:23:33

Cartoon cross post my lovely, sorry you are having such a tough time. You don't have to leave us just lurk for a bit. There is loads of support & advice on here that can help you. Hope you are getting the support you need in RL.

ScarlettInSpace Fri 29-Mar-13 07:49:15

cartoon I second what sweetie said [even though I'm ignoring her & her tan] I lurk more than post these days but its a bit of a security blanket I find. Big hugs though whatever you decide x

2BFPs? Who was the second? [fake blonde]

Had my info session for IUI yesterday, the nurse was apologising because after IVF/ICSI info overloads she felt she hardly had anything to tell us! I can cope with a few tablets and 4 jabs a month though grin

So long as AF arrives Friday-Sunday next time then we can go ahead - this one started on a Monday so 27 day cycle is fine this month thanks body!

Hope you all have a nice Easter, we have lots of time with SKs this weekend which is nice x

Scarlet the second surprise one is Jen (a very shocked Jen!) She did POAS to try encourage AF to turn up and prove she wasn't cos she was having quite a long cycle, she ended up with 2 lines and a very shocked DH!

ScarlettInSpace Fri 29-Mar-13 08:34:05

ah i see, congrats Jen then!

NoCupcakesOrCocktails Fri 29-Mar-13 08:44:37


God I've missed a lot! I've had a really really busy week at work.

Catoon I don't know if you'll see this but just wanted to say that I've "left" mumsnet a few times when ttc has become too much. I hope you come back soon as we will all miss you. However you are grieving for your little pebble and you must do whatever you feel you have to do to get through this time. We will all be thinking of you and will be here if you need anything x

Beedle well done on getting your letter, I'm brooking for a ironic pre IVF BFP or starting IVF before the shutdown.

Sweetie sounds like you had a fab holiday, just what the Brookers ordered! It's so weird but I agree there is no such things as TMI after a long ttc journey shock I can't wait for the donor's AF to arrive so you can start grin

Scarlett hope you guys have a lovely weekend with the SKs

Wow I can't believe the news about Jen she and DH must be so shocked. Great news though smile

Keep good luck for the scan and bloods tomorrow. What time are you having them? not that I'm planning to obsessively check MN or anything wink

My friends are being remarkably strong about their loss. I think it hasn't really hit them yet tbh. I'm hoping to pop around for a cup of tea in the next few days if they are up to it.
I'm off for 3 days which I'm really excited about as I can't remember the last time I was off work over Easter. Hope everyone has a lovely weekend.

keepitgoing Fri 29-Mar-13 09:53:57

sweetie!!! Am so glad you had lovely holidays. Coming home's always a bit rubbish, though, isn't it? I am super excited for you, and brooking for the donor's AF to arrive asap! Oh wow, not long! smile

I'm nowhere near 7 weeks, unfortunately smile 5 weeks exactly today. The only thing they should see tomorrow will be the yolk sac, and that it's in the right place. And that hcg has gone up enough. I think they'll do lots of scans, most likely just to make money... I should be done by 10am, cups. 3am your time, so you won't need to be checking all day ;) enjoy your Easter. I'm now off to Google where we can get an easter brunch here - I want lamb, hot cross buns and easter eggs!

Scarlett enjoy your weekend with SKs. Iui will seem like child's play after ivf! Are you doing injectibles then or what?

face do whatever you need to get through this shitty time, but we'll be here when you need us.

geek my science continues, you'll be pleased to know. I am testing out a theory dh found that chocolate reduces miscarriage. Happy to oblige smile

ScarlettInSpace Fri 29-Mar-13 10:51:49

keep yep clomid & menopur - but seriously, half a dozen tablets & 150ml Menopur every other day, 3 times in total + a trigger shot, that's a walk in the park lol!

I'm not expecting it to work at all though, so OH has suggested I view it as a series of monitored cycles with a little pharmaceutical nudge [and a gazillion vitamins supplements & diet tweaks lol] and 3 opportunities to put the right stuff in the right place. We'll see...

keepitgoing Fri 29-Mar-13 11:50:33

You never know, do you Scarlett! And that sounds easy peasey

BeedlesPineNeedles Fri 29-Mar-13 15:43:49

cartoon you'll always be welcome back here. I hope some time out is just what you need.

keep good luck for tomorrow. Candy crush is a Facebook game, also available as an app, tis rather addictive

sweetie thankyou for the kind offer, I do have a few friends that play they were just ignoring my requests for help shock I've introduced Mrb to it now

cups enjoy your weekend off

scarlett have fun with the SKs

I am working on my Easter plan of eating my entire body weight in chocolate grin
As well as some DIY and gardening

keepitgoing Sat 30-Mar-13 04:46:14

Hi all, just to let you know scan and bloods were all good, though there's not much to see at 5+1... Just the gestational sac and possible yolk sac. Anyway, now nothing till 18/04 when I should be 7+6, to hear heartbeat. Seems ages away.

Hope everyone's enjoying the long weekend

NoCupcakesOrCocktails Sat 30-Mar-13 05:25:11

Keep great news so far smile did you find anywhere to go for Easter brunch?

Beedle I'm jealous of the chocolate consumption. I started on a diet last week as I wanted to lose the extra half stone that's crept on after Xmas before starting IVF. Stupid idea really, I should have waited until after Easter grin

keepitgoing Sat 30-Mar-13 06:05:25

Yes, they have roast lamb, eggs, hot x buns. Amazing!

Sod the diet cups, take four a day off. I didn't put any weight on during ivf btw though I know some people do. Why are you up?!?!

BeedlesPineNeedles Sat 30-Mar-13 07:19:34

Excellent news keep only another 35 weeks to go grin

cups i could also lose a bit of weight but I've decided the diet starts on Tuesday, but maybe somewhat ruined by the 21 creme eggs I have ordered from amazon grin

Has anyone got the zita west book on assisted conception? If i buy it, will it tell me anything I didn't already know from you guys or the internet?

BartletForTeamGB Sat 30-Mar-13 07:31:22

Great news, keep. I'm convinced time moves more slowly during the first trimester!

NoCupcakesOrCocktails Sat 30-Mar-13 08:00:19

I woke up with a cold this morning, I couldn't get back to sleep as my nose is so blocked confused So naturally I came straight on mn to see your lovely news Keep It's good to hear you didn't put on any weight, that's why I'm dieting as most people seem to put on a far bit during IVF.

I haven't got the book Beedle I did nearly buy it a few months ago but figure I'm so far down the road now that its probably pointless.

I'm sat in bed watching gossip girl and rom coms crap in other words on Netflix while I suffer with my snotty nose and cough

SweetieTime Sat 30-Mar-13 08:21:36

Keep great news that all looking good for miniKeep. Hope you enjoy your Easter lunch, sounds fab. I haven't heard of the brunch concept until Dubai where they have these on a Friday but we missed them as we arrived on the Friday so our timing was a bit out. Sound amazing though.

Cup sorry to hear that you have cold, I hate having cold. I have put on quite a bit of weight since doing IVF. It is a difficult one to say if it is IVF related or not. I didn't put weight on during the treatment but afterwards first time, about 4/5 pounds. But this time the meds I have been taking have made me more hungry and I have put on about 5 pounds. But I have also had Christmas and 2 holidays in this time so it could all be due to this and I am just wanting to blame the IVF meds.

Beedle I borrowed a book about 6 months in to TTC, I think it was the Zita West one. But it didn't really tell me anything new. I had already learnt more from here than the book could offer. It was a real tome too and quite heavy going.

Scarlett hope you are having a good time with SK

I am not sure if I am supposed to be having my hair done today, just waiting for a reasonable time to give them a call to check. It isn't in my diary but I do remember a conversation with another friend who is also booked in at the same time. My head is officially a shed.

ScarlettInSpace Sat 30-Mar-13 08:27:38

keep glad to hear everything is in the right place at the right time!

beedle you won't necessarily learn anything new but it is worth a read, she puts things quite simply. I bought mine off eBay for about £2 wink I would recommend it, I'm just rereading the section on when IVF fails.

Keep that's great news! Well done lovely.

Beedle I have the book. I did find it interesting to read. And it's also good for MrMaybe to try and get his head around it.

Hope you feel better soon Cups

Scarlett I like MrS's way of thinking. I am brooking no argument it's going to work.

Glad you had a lovely holiday Sweetie

ControlGeek Sat 30-Mar-13 19:47:58

keep, lovely, that is brilliant news! Looking forward to hearing about minikeep's hb in three weeks or so smile Loving your science experiment - and don't forget that chocolate is made from a bean, which is a vegetable, therefore it counts as one of your five a day. Not to mention the milk content counting towards your calcium intake!

cup I'm sorry, I've just picked up on your comment about your friends' loss. That's awful. I'm glad they seem to be coping, but it's still so so awful. How are you enjoying having Easter off?

sweetie hope you're feeling nice and refreshed from your holiday, and that you brought a little sunshine and warm weather back with you!

scarlett your DH is a very wise man. Brooking that your laid back approach to 'monitored cycles' gets you your BFP. Fact.

beedle how's the marathon chocolate eating going? I have the Brookers' copy of the Zita West book, but am still only half way through it. I think I was hoping for revelations and was a bit disappointed that it was just stuff I already knew, on the whole.

AF has finally departed, yay! Clocks go forward tonight, but I refuse to tell the cats. They can just have breakfast at their normal bodyclock time grin Had a weird experience yesterday - I was out mowing the lawn because the weather felt quite warm and the sun was out, then it started to snow! Very peculiar feeling.

Bloke came to repair the car windscreen today, and had to go away without doing it as he said he didn't have all the parts! Booked in for Thursday now but we have to drive it to their depot, despite the size and location of the chip/crack meaning we shouldn't be driving the car at all.

No chocolate here, but have had a lot a drop of wine the last couple of nights grin

JenFreggle Sat 30-Mar-13 20:18:43

Geek glad AF has finally left you, she's obviously decided to make her last visit to you for a while and therefore made the most of it.

I hope that my unplanned BFP hasn't upset anyone on here. The whole TTC process is so unfair, nobody should have to wait months or even years to conceive. We've totally got our heads around it now and are excited about this baby but I understand that it could have felt like a kick in the teeth for some of you.

ControlGeek Sat 30-Mar-13 20:51:11

<pops back in to give jen a hug> Once a brooker, always a brooker - we knew you'd come round, and a Brooker BFP is always to be celebrated on this fred. Very glad that you and MrJen are happy to be happy but poor grin

SweetieTime Sat 30-Mar-13 20:55:48

Aw Jen none of us here can help the circumstances we find ourselves in. Please don't feel guilty for being more able to conceive than those of us who require assistance. It is all just luck. I am more hurt by the insensitive way people announce their pregnancy. Those bloody Facebook pregnancy trackers are my personal bugbear so unless you plan to have one of those we aee all good.

Solars Sat 30-Mar-13 23:08:18

I go away and what's this I hear Jen lovely? A BFP for you?? grin grin grin congratulations thanks There's no rhyme or reason to any of this ttc lark but I can't imagine anyone here being offended. I for one am very happy for you smile

Sorry but I'll have to catch up properly over the next couple of days, but hope you are all well and enjoying the time off during this long weekend xx

Lovely to have you back Solars

Jen I second Geek and Sweetie. Not a kick in the teeth at all, I'm very, very pleased for you. And I'm so pleased you have your heads around it now! I also believe minijenno2 is due the day before my birthday! Hurrah wink

JenFreggle Sun 31-Mar-13 10:50:11

Thanks, I would hate to think that I made any of you feel bad for what was basically sheer carelessness on my part. While this baby is most definitely unplanned, it is very much wanted just much earlier than we would like

DD was born the same month as DH, this one is due in the same month as my birthday grin

keepitgoing Sun 31-Mar-13 12:02:09

Jen don't feel bad! There is no fairness to ttc, as there isn't to so much of life. We all know you want the baby, and that you're a great mum. What's the difference of a few months years...

I agree with sweetie its insensitivity that's awful, and you def aren't insensitive! I also hate those trackers, also a cousin who announced her pg at six weeks, I mean wtf. Fb at six weeks? Clearly has no clue.

And we will have bfps for all, soon enough.

keepitgoing Sun 31-Mar-13 12:03:32

My doctor has told me no swimming till 8 weeks. It's now 40 degrees. I just want to lie in the ac till we come home in July...

ControlGeek Sun 31-Mar-13 12:19:32

No swimming keep? I've never heard that one before - did he say why? If it helps, I'm not great with super hot weather and lie on the bed periodically spraying water from a plant mister into the air. It's bliss when it lands grin

jen how could we possibly feel bad? We now have another brooker on the grads thread, waiting for us to join!

<gives the chocolaty thread a good lick, not allowed any in RL yet grin>

Hope you're all enjoying the long weekend.

While I'm here, can someone update who is having what and when, I'm completely lost smile thanks.

keepitgoing Sun 31-Mar-13 12:39:31

geek he said no exercise really, as risk of mc at the moment. I think its partly the Thai attitude to pg, but from Googling it seems about half half docs saying do nothing till 12 weeks, or just do whatever! I am quite paranoid but equally think this OS ott, and there are benefits to exercise in pregnancy. Not sure what I'll do rebel

boo is chocolate your first post labour treat?

Mmm, it's a difficult one Keep are the chances of mc increased in assisted pregnancies? The advice I was given was so keep doing what I always did but not to start anything new.

I'm torn between chocolate or really thick cut white bread with chippy chips post labour <gives thread another lick>

keepitgoing Sun 31-Mar-13 12:57:11

They are a bit, boo but its not necessarily causal. Ie may not be the AC that causes it, but the reason for infertility, iyswim. There appears to be no real evidence linking exercise and mc, so I think with assisted pregnancies we are all just playing it safe.

Theoretically mine should be like a normal pregnancy now, other than progesterone for another three weeks.

I nominate geek in charge of updates. Very organised, that woman...

ControlGeek Sun 31-Mar-13 13:02:42

boo no contest - thick-cut chip butty with a choclate cake for pudding <helpful>

I'll need to look back for keep's list for you boo, my memory is atrocious at the moment.

ControlGeek Sun 31-Mar-13 13:04:28

oh crap, just seen my xpost with keep grin

keep perhaps playing it safe for 12 weeks is a small price to pay along with months and months of little to no booze, taking pills til you rattle, weeks of jabbing yourself...

ControlGeek Sun 31-Mar-13 13:08:12

Here we go - Assisted Brookers' List:

Solars monitoring cycle next month
Beedle ivf appointment v soon...
Sweetie ET in April
Maybe icsi the cycle after next
Geek expecting to get ICSI kick-off appt by end of April
Cupcakes ivf in next few months, brooking for soon
Scarlett iui coming up

If any of this is wrong or out of date please let me know. My brain is like swiss cheese these days.

keepitgoing Sun 31-Mar-13 13:10:44

solars how was your time away? Are you still there?

SweetieTime Sun 31-Mar-13 15:07:07

Solars lovely to see you back, how was Italy?

Geek thanks for the list, it is all looking very exciting for the Brookers

keep when I was going the IVF before I was told no hot baths, but I had thought that was down to raising the bodies core temp. I suppose it could also introduce infection as there has been a lot of rustling going on up there.

boo chip butty with thick cut chips in door step white bread with ketchup I am not sure what I would be looking forward to more, meeting booby or tucking in!!!

I could post in AIBU but will vent at you lovely lot instead. DH and I have had words this afternoon as we have been invited to the Christening of his best mates DC. You may recall that his wanker best mate had a child with his then girlfriend who already had 5 kids (not to him). They have since split up before the baby was even born, she has not given the child his surname but that of her previous hubby to keep all the kids with the same surname. The Christening wouldn't be my idea of fun at the best of times but it will fall around the time we are either waiting for our embies to grow or just had them put back. AIBU not to want to go? I am ok if DH goes alone but I just don't feel I will be able to face everyone cooing over the baby under such strained and false situation. Any thoughts?

ControlGeek Sun 31-Mar-13 15:35:20

sweetie I think you're being perfectly reasonable. These men of ours just don't get it most some times. I can see why he would want to be there for his mate, regardless of the circumstances of the relationship, but it's not like you're trying to stop him from going. Maybe try to downplay it a bit? Something like 'Oh that's lovely. I don't think I'll be up to it, but you go and give them all my best.' Does your IVF clinic offer counselling? It might be worth having a chat with the counsellor about how hard you're finding things like that in general, s/he may be able to give you tips on how to explain it to DH?

ControlGeek Sun 31-Mar-13 15:39:18

jen just noticed your easter nc grin

Sweetie I think that I well timed migraine could be on the cards that day, I would not want to go either. Is DH ok about going on his own or would he miss it if you didn't go, that could change things a bit.

I think meeting booby is still more exciting, but Geeks food porn (chips AND chocolate shock) could just about trump it! grin

Thanks you for the updated list, so many exciting times ahead!!

GreenOlives Sun 31-Mar-13 19:21:38

Happy Easter ladies! I have been having a clear out and I have lots of pregnancy tests to give away free to a good home - a load of internet cheapies and a 2 pack FRER - so just let me know if you want them, first come first served! grin From reading the list of what's happening it won't be long before you'll all be needing them! smile

GreenOlives Sun 31-Mar-13 20:16:42

I have 20 internet cheapies so I can split them into 2 batches smile

I had various opk sticks and preg tests passed on from other brookers (def had some from biscuits and fluffy) I like to think they bought me good luck and Id love for mine to do the same smile

GreenOlives Sun 31-Mar-13 20:20:30

Actually I think it was Lanisoh that biscuits sent me - and that's been lucky, no cracked nipples in sight this time round! grin

SweetieTime Sun 31-Mar-13 21:20:33

Olives thank you for your very kind offer. I have just been to check my ttc testing stash. I have 5 Internet cheapie hpt, 1 first response and 2 superdrug test blush blush . I also have a single lonely internet cheapie opk. So I think this is plenty to be keeping me going.

ControlGeek Sun 31-Mar-13 21:25:21

Oh my word sweetie you put me to shame. I was thinking I was getting a bit low:

64 x IC
13 x CBFM sticks

31 x IC
2 x Superdrug Own Specials
3 x FRER
2 x Clear Blue
1 x Clear Blue Digital

& 2 x IC HPTs gifted from other brookers, that I have saved for when I am confident of a good result.

Oh god I am such a TTC geek.

SweetieTime Sun 31-Mar-13 21:31:13

omg geek I actually snorted when I read your list. You really are very well prepared. Were you a Brownie or Guide. I am sure Jen or Beedle could recruit you as leader. wink

GreenOlives Sun 31-Mar-13 21:54:10

grin grin grin Ok, so sweetie and geek seem to be ok on the test front!! Anybody else in need of any preg tests or do you all have a similar stash? smile

keepitgoing Mon 01-Apr-13 01:59:01

smile smile geek!!! That is hilarious!!

No number three for you, then, olives? ;)

GreenOlives Mon 01-Apr-13 08:16:53

We are 99% sure that we are sticking at 2 keep! smile

I have told DH that if I ever say I'm feeling broody again he has to buy me a puppy! grin

JenFreggle Mon 01-Apr-13 09:31:44

I did recruit Bartlet and then she got a bfp. This baby will be the 5th born to a leader in my guide unit since 2008...

SweetieTime Mon 01-Apr-13 12:12:25

Geek that is what we need to do, become Brown Owls!!

We have spoken about the Christening again, DH will go on his own if I aren't feeling up to it. A mystery illness will crop up. He wasn't very understanding but has accepted that I am on more of an emotional roller-coaster than he is.

JenFreggle Mon 01-Apr-13 12:22:49
keepitgoing Mon 01-Apr-13 12:38:24

sweetie I'm sorry your dh can't understand where you're coming from, but at least he can accept and support you. I don't think yabu at all not to go if you can't face it, noone needs to know. Ivf is tough tough tough emotionally, so just do what's right for you.

keepitgoing Mon 01-Apr-13 12:39:41

Ps, that's a bit odd about the surname, no?!

ControlGeek Mon 01-Apr-13 12:58:07

sweetie Glad you and DH have come to a compromise on the christening. There are things I don't think our DH's/DP's can ever fully understand, perhaps acceptance is the best we can hope for.

jen I completed that form just after bartlet got her BFP figuring anything was worth a shot! but heard nothing back at all, not even a 'thanks but we're ok for now'. I did put on the form that I don't drive - would that have been a major issue that meant my form got binned?

boo loving the puppy idea - but would it honestly work? I can see you being a nice, well-rounded family of six smile

SweetieTime Mon 01-Apr-13 12:58:39

Jen you are very funny!!

keep it is all very strange if you ask me, I can sort of understand it on a practical level such as booking holidays etc but from an emotional level surely the child needs to know his father is different. But each to their own and if it works for them.

Sweetie I am glad you came to an agreement with DH.

JenFreggle Mon 01-Apr-13 18:41:02

Geek you shouldn't have got binned, somebody is supposed to get back to you. Feel free to try again, maybe you have a DC that isn't up on Join Us but we've had a few months to get used to it now. She may have accidentally pressed the wrong button and deleted you and is hoping that you try again as she won't have contact details for you

BartletForTeamGB Mon 01-Apr-13 21:25:56

geek, there were LOADS of teething problems with the new system so your email might well have gone awry. Please try again. Aside from the fact it clearly guarantees a BFP, Guiding is so much fun!

ControlGeek Tue 02-Apr-13 16:09:12

Thanks Jen and Bartlet I didn't realise at the time that it was a new system. Over the weekend I've been inspired by an mn thread to contact my local WI branch, so I'll see how I go with that and if I have any energy left I may resubmit a form for Brownies.

Here's a little bit of BS Bingo to make you smile ladies - my company has just made an internal announcement that they are going to 'maximise the synergies with our services' grin

BeedlesPineNeedles Wed 03-Apr-13 05:46:49

I have now emerged from underneath a mountain of chocolate wrappers <passes the wrappers to boo for her to sniff>

Jen not sure if I said congratulations earlier but we won't hate you for being so fertile grin

keep if the no swimming is just about no exercise could you not just wallow in the pool (not suggesting you're hippo like at 5 weeks grin )

olives if noone else wants the first response and you don't mind sending them to foreign parts I'd like them. I have loads of IC - but not a big a supply as geek

We had a lovely Easter, did lots of work in the garden, we're clearing an area that gets the late afternoon sun as we have lots of big trees that shade the back garden in the late afternoon

GreenOlives Wed 03-Apr-13 08:24:39

Hi beedles Very happy to send the FRER to you, just pm me your address. smile

BeedlesPineNeedles Wed 03-Apr-13 09:41:55

olives have send you a pm Thanks grin

NoCupcakesOrCocktails Wed 03-Apr-13 10:53:56

Well I've finally left my sick bed! I haven't been out of the house in 4 days. I have had man flu according to DH grin I think he was getting sick of my whining. I'm feeling so much better, I look terrible though. My nose is really dry and has been peeling confused

shock at Geeks supply of tests, I've barely got any. I can't bear to test anymore.

Sweetie I'm glad you and DH have managed to compromise. I can totally understand why you don't want to go. I've just declined to go to a baby shower for some girls at work. It's for 5 girls going off on mat leave & there will be another 3 there who are currently on mat leave. I think it will be too much for me to deal with as i may have started IVF by then. The girl organising it was surprised when I said no thanks even though most ppl at work know I'm waiting for IVF. I must be better at hiding how hard this is for me than I realised.

Jen it's lovely to hear you and DH are starting to get excited about it all. It's very sweet that you are concerned about other people's feelings. Honestly I wasn't upset to hear your news at all.

I don't know about everyone else but I tend to live in fear of pg announcements. It's not because I'm jealous, it's because it's always so public. I've had so many friends make the big announcement at meals, parties etc in front of a lot of ppl. Everyone congratulates them, then at least half of the ppl there sneak looks at me or DH to see how we are taking it. It's so humiliating. I guess it's our own fault for being relatively honest over the years in response to being asked when we are going to have kids.

I hope everyone had a lovely easter thanks

Oh Cups I know exactly what you mean. I avoid baby showers too. We have been quite honest too, and I know what you mean about the looks. Though in all honestly, MrMs family are just down right insensitive!

I'm glad you're feeling better. But you have sent it here. I feel Douglas houses!

Beedle I'm so jealous of your gardening. We desperately won't to get over the allotment, but with al the snow and rain, it's just too boggy!

Sweetie I'm glad you sorted things. I think it's all about self preservation at the moment. You need to be in the right frame of mind, and anything that detracts from that is bad.

I hope all other brookers are ok. Sorry for the lack of posting. I am always watching though wink stalker

keepitgoing Wed 03-Apr-13 11:04:13

cup if they know about your issues then I think it's dreadful of them to tell you in those sorts of situations. Grrr. I didn't realise you'd been I'll, sorry! Glad you're feeling better. That baby shower sounds hideous. Never mind I hate the idea of baby showers anyway but... Why is everyone at your work pregnant.

BTW I've been relatively open with friends and family about our issues. All in the name of bringing fertility issues into the open air. And being a bad lier. And being excited when we first started TTC.

beedle the doc said no even to that... But I will make up my own mind and swim from 7 weeks (next Friday)

Waves to all!

BeedlesPineNeedles Wed 03-Apr-13 11:52:01

maybe just to make you even more jealous, the weather statistics for March were in the newspaper today. We had 2.8 mm of rain (it was actually snow so about 3cm) and 247 hours of sunshine grin
Not that we can do any digging in the veg patch because the ground is still frozen cos its still rather cold.

BartletForTeamGB Wed 03-Apr-13 12:48:03

I know it is nothing, but I wish I could give you all a hug. I've had nothing like the wait that some of you have had and I can understand the pain of those announcements since DD1 so I can only imagine how much more painful that is for you. I've so appreciated the people who emailed me privately to let me know that they were pregnant and thankfully haven't had any big announcements to deal with. At the same time, I let people know quietly when I found out I was pregnant with DD2. I hope I've done it sensitively.

(It did absolutely break my heart when good friends called their DD who was due the same time as my DD1 the same name and just announced it with, "Yes, we know you like the name." I still can't speak to them although we have exchanged a few text messages. We're visiting family near to them next month and I just can't contemplate seeing them though.)

Anyway, I am still brooking like billy-o for you all and I can't wait to see the BFPs.

NoCupcakesOrCocktails Wed 03-Apr-13 16:30:58

Thanks Brookers, I knew you guys would understand grin <gathers everyone in for a group huddle>
It's so complicated explaining how ttc makes us all feel. I remember about your DD1's name Bartlet, I can understand why that is still so difficult for you to deal with.

There are about 9 people going on mat leave in the next few months at work. It is not in my department but we all know each other & move departments to cover staff shortages. They are looking to move people to cover mat leave. A colleague suggested I should move as that would get me pregnant shock I calmly replied that if 3 years of more sex than anyone needs or wants, a mega healthy lifestyle, taking a gazillion vitamins & seeing fertility specialists hasn't got me pregnant then I'm sure going & siting on the "pregnancy chair" at work probably won't help either.
Her response "well it can't hurt" gringringrin

You've got to laugh, I'm refusing to sit in that damn chair as if I do get miraculously pregnant ill never hear the end of it!

Waves to Sweetie, Maybe, Keep, Solars, Boo, Bartlet, Olives, Scarlett, Geek

Btw does anyone ever wonder what happened to Imps. I miss her sad

SweetieTime Wed 03-Apr-13 19:12:31

Geek when do you go to your first WI meet? I am excited as to what they do at these things, do they actually sing Jerusalem at each meeting? And I bet they eat loads of cake!!!

Cup poor you, hope you are feeling better and plenty of Vaseline for the sore nose. Baby showers are the worst IMO. We have been really open about our wanting to start a family and have found no one really asks anymore. It really is like an elephant in the room hangs head in shame I am surprised how insensitive preggos can be, even ones who have struggled themselves. I know they are just excited but...... no excuse really. I REALLY REALLY REALLY HATE those pregnancy trackers on FB, why why why do people want those???

Barlett I am not surprised that you are so upset about the child with DD1 name, it is one of the most insensitive things I have ever come across. I think you are doing the right thing to avoid these people. It staggers me that they don't realise.

I am off for womble scan tomorrow and should find out more about the timings. I haven't heard anything but think the donor will have begun her jabs if AF has arrived. I have bought a card for the donor after hours of mentalling in the card shop which would be most suitable for this situation which I am trying to write this evening. Tomorrow will be the last opportunity to leave it for her as next time I go she will have done her bit shock I feel very strongly that I want to acknowledge what she is doing for us but putting it into words, without seeming cheesy, is very hard. Aaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ControlGeek Wed 03-Apr-13 19:55:54

Blimey you ladies have been busy on the fred this afternoon! Catch-up time I think [busmile]

<picks a stray bit of foil out of beedle's hair> Glad you had a lovely Eater - I mean Easter! [bugrin]

cups sorry you have been so unwell. But tell DH that you are a woman so you can't get Man Flu. Women get Bird Flu instead, and that's far worse because you can die from it. It was on the news and everything! I am staggered at the sheer number of pregnancies at your work. I thought mine was bad, at least half of our HR dept are off on mat leave or pg at any given time. Perhaps it's worth have a little sly sit in that chair though - at the very least, you can make your fortune selling your story to the papers when you get your BFP shortly afterwards.

Maybe Douglas houses? And oooh you have an allotment [bugrin] I had to give mine up when I moved here, but I've now got a mahoosive slightly too big to cope with garden so I'm not too jealous. What do you grow when you get a chance to get down there?

keep Fair play to you for being open about it all. We didn't tell anyone when we started trying, because we had so many people who were against us just being together in the first place. After it didn't happen, we stopped talking about it even between ourselves. Telling my mum just before the lap was one of the hardest things I've ever had to do.

bartlet I remember you mentioning about DD1's name, and thinking it was a really shitty thing for them to do. I completely understand why you'd want to keep your distances now.

sweetie it's tomorrow <eek!> 7:15 for 7:30 said the email, with a proper agenda and everything! I know slightly less about the WI than I know about astrophysics, so it will be an experience if nothing else. Sing Jerusalem you say? I shall report back [bugrin] PS Cake is actually on the agenda!

I was thinking about imps the other day too. I'd written a really typo-ridden email to MrG at work and when he called me up to laugh about it I said 'sorry, imps fingers' but he didn't understand. <d'oh>

Good news in the Geek hosuehold - I am no longer the official Rag Dolly Anna mascot as I pulled all of my stitches out this morning in frustration and to celebrate I will be making an appointment with my waxing lady for the first time in over six weeks!

MrG has done his back in again. The very day I got my first high of the cycle on CBFM. [buangry] WIBU to ask him to JIAFB (freezer bag), and bring my trusty mooncup into play as a feasible alternative?

ControlGeek Wed 03-Apr-13 19:56:55


JenFreggle Wed 03-Apr-13 20:01:18

Geek you will have to climb on top so he can just lie there. It worked for us this time

NoCupcakesOrCocktails Thu 04-Apr-13 06:35:17


Sweetie my sister has got one of those trackers on her Facebook page. I'm pissed off at how insensitive she & my mum are being. Their Facebook pages are filled with baby stuff. I've unsubscribed to them both. Even DH is sick of all the stuff on there so I don't think I'm overreacting.

How did you get on with your card? I think it's lovely to get her a card but it must be very difficult to write.

Geek good luck with the meeting, I'm very envy that they have cake on the agenda. It sounds my kind of place. Yay on getting rid of the stitches. Did you manage any swi? I got my peak the day I started with my cold last week, bloody typical!

SweetieTime Thu 04-Apr-13 08:14:27

Geek I agree with Cup that your meeting sounds just up my street. I have never been to a meeting with cake on the official agenda envy envy

Cup I would hide their profiles too, it is really insensitive of them especially when they know how you feel. {{{hugs}}}

I didn't get very far with writing the card blush I watched the Beyonce documentry from last week. Did anyone see it? I love her and she talked about a previous miscarriage and how hurtful the press speculation was when she was pregnant with her baby. Right I must get on with writing the card.

Good luck with the card and your scan Sweetie

Cups I'm so sorry your mum and sis are still being awful. But at least DH can see it too. I sometimes wonder if I am imagining things till MrMaybe agrees!

Geek that's great about the stitches, but boo to MrG's back. We only got the allotment last year, but we have done nothing on it so far this year! We grew spuds, courgettes, beans, peas, boradbeans, carrots, parsnips, onions, leeks.....loads really! Oh, and Douglas houses?! Hello Imps fingers, I meant rough as houses blush

I to was thinking about Imps the other day. I hope she comes back and finds us one day.

SweetieTime Thu 04-Apr-13 15:26:51

Apparently I have a lovely womble. It is just where it needs to be. I am very pleased. Our donor is a week into jabs and looking good. There is a scan tomorrow when they will know more when collection is going to be, they think early to mid next week. Exciting

Solars Thu 04-Apr-13 15:39:10

Sheeesh is everyone else also having snow flurries today?? It's been non stop here and I'm starting to get really bored with this arctic weather....come on sunshine, where are you? I bought some pretty springtime shoes recently and I want to wear them now!!

Sorry I've not managed to catch up too well, only read the last couple of pages.

Sweetie how did the scan go today? I hope you managed to get your card done too, that's a lovely thing to do.

Keep how are you doing? Are you managing to relax about everything?

Cups it's so tough isn't it <strokes hair>

Maybe I hope you're feeling a little less Douglas-less grin Hope you're doing ok otherwise too.

Geek good luck on your meeting and how are the lap wounds coming along?

Beedle do you have an appointment yet?

I think I need that list of where eveyone's at, I feel lost!

Solars Thu 04-Apr-13 15:40:18

Oooo cross post Sweetie exciting times indeed!

ControlGeek Thu 04-Apr-13 22:30:40

Quick post from me, as if tomorrow's anything like today I'll struggle to get on mn at all!

solars it's lovely to have you back! How was your trip? No snow flurries here today, but the wind is making it ever so cold. The lap wounds are looking ok, amazingly it's the scars from the stitches that look the worst! I'm back doing the 30 day shred, but only every other day until I build my stomach strength back up.

sweetie I love a good womble story grin Hope your card writing went well, it's so hard to find the right balance between saying what you want to say and not being overly gushy. I think it's lovely that you want to give your donor a card though. It's an amazing thing that they're doing. Will they get to find out about your forthcoming BFP, or will they never know that it is successful?

Jen unfortunately MrG can't bear the notion. I suggested it the last time he had a bad back but he thought it would be too painful.

cups damn your rotten cold. No SWI here. I did suggest the freezer bag thing to MrG at lunchtime only half in jest but for some reason he really didn't seem too keen. He thinks as long as he takes codeine and I can hold on til the weekend, I may be lucky. He seems to think it is all about timing, just doesn't get the idea of frequency!

maybe that's a really impressive list! The first year I had my allotment my list was a bit like that, then it went downhill rapidly thanks to several years of freak weather conditions. My second summer, my plot was four foot under water! This year I was thinking of putting some spuds in bags, and we have strawberries in a planter on the patio.

WI was actually really good! We had a talk from a guest speaker which put us about half an hour behind time, and I drew my own number out of the raffle blush I've decided to become a full member, so will pay my money next month. Finally coughed to MrG that it wasn't just a book group grin

keepitgoing Fri 05-Apr-13 04:26:43

Hi brookers!
sweetie I'm so pleased you had a good scan! EC next week, omg! Will they try and get the embryos to blasts, or how does it work? Do you have time off or not this time. Are you feeling OK sweetheart? I am so excited for you. You are so lovely to write a card, it will be so nice for her to get it.

cups I'm so sorry your mum and sister are still being insensitive. If you've tried talking to them I'd just subtely withdraw a bit, tbh, at this stressful time. I think you have to think of yourself right now.

geek I'm brooking your egg will hold off a little, but mrgeek will just have to man up otherwise. Once you told your mum how was she?

All OK here, feeling very tentative. 6 weeks today, scan in 13 days after which we would tell our families if all's OK. No symptoms except wind... But the brooking grads are reassuring me about that.

Ooh, I told dh I'm on mn yesterday as he kept suggesting I join an AN thread on one of the many baby websites. I was, like, er, I've been on it for ages blush

BeedlesPineNeedles Fri 05-Apr-13 08:11:37

sweetie I'm so excited for you. And its great news that you have such a lovely womble.

cups I have hidden people's news feeds for much more minor transgressions than pregnancy trackers - luckily I don't think I know anyone that has got one. And I think only 1 non-brooker friend who is pregnant anyway. Brookers' updates and cute baby photos are OK in my world grin

keep how does you DH know about these things? I'm sure MrB has no idea that ante-natal threads exist on parenting forums.

No news here about the appointment - I shall be brave and ring them on Monday as our theoretical 3 months on the waiting list is up then. I'm not usually such a wimp, but its bloomin hard to argue on the phone in a foreign language.

I've had slightly odd womble cramps for the last few days, I have decided it must be implantation as I'm about 9dpo. Realisticly I think its probably wind grin

keepitgoing Fri 05-Apr-13 11:11:26

beedle I always hate raining people, but phoning in another language is tough. Can't mrbeedle do it?

Off course, you'll have your bfp by Monday. You're a mad poas-er. Have you done one yet...?

keepitgoing Fri 05-Apr-13 11:13:09

Phoning people, not raining on them.

BTW I have no idea how dh knew about AN threads. I suspect he must be madly googling things too, and they just come up. He's being really lovely to me at the moment am wondering when he'll get bored

Ooh Sweetie it's all happening smile congratulations on the lovely womb, how soon after ec will they implant?

I had a FB friend with one of those tracker things, she also updated us with a few bump pics every 4 weeks all the way through, then treated us to pictures from the delivery room, one titled '15 minutes before I met my baby' shock and another immediately following delivery [eek] I have tried not to bore anyone on FB with every detail (apart from on our page) we all know how hard it can be, and I have RL friends who are struggling ttc sad

Oh and Mr B knows all about you, has done for ages. He thinks me are all a little bit crazy smile

We, not me, but possibly me too wink

BeedlesPineNeedles Fri 05-Apr-13 11:58:54

Come on keep even I don't PIAR at 9dpo grin
But I might do on Monday wink
MrBeedle has phoned the last 2 times so I think its my turn now. They do have a specific phone number for waiting list queries (which is actually a bit worrying) so at least I wouldn't have to talk to loads of people before I get to the right one

I hate raining on people too grin

keepitgoing Fri 05-Apr-13 12:02:49

Don't you rain on my parade...

I was about to go for a walk, but my tummy is full of air hurts. So I'll lie down instead smile

SweetieTime Fri 05-Apr-13 13:40:13

Am trying not to be disappointed cry my eyes out clinic just called with news on our donor. she may only has 6 follicles sad we had hoped for 10 eggs. as you all know it really is a numbers game. I know it only takes one but I was hoping we would get frosties for another go if this one didn't work or if it did the chance of a sibling. I just hope some small follies catch up before collection on Tuesday.

sorry to be so down but I really had high hopes

keepitgoing Fri 05-Apr-13 13:54:05

Oh sweetie there's loads of time till Tuesday. Lots of follies pop up later. And there is a big school of thought on quality not quantity. 6 is quite a few xxx

Oh Sweetie don't be down, there is time for follies to catch up, and 6 is still really good!

keepitgoing Fri 05-Apr-13 15:01:12

I didn't mean to sound flippant, I can understand that you're upset and there's a lot riding on this cycle. But six is brilliant. And she's a young fertile whippersnapper so I'm sure you'll get better fertilization and grow rates than most of us. Is it set for Tuesday then? It's exciting, my love. Don't feel down, just one step at a time.

Is dh gearing up for his contribution. Don't forget to clear the pipes.

Big hugs. It must be v hard waiting to start x

Withalittlesparkle Fri 05-Apr-13 15:14:02

But sweetie 6 is great and when quality is confirmed it'll be even better

SweetieTime Fri 05-Apr-13 15:48:13

thanks for all your thoughts. I suppose it was a bit of a shock as i was expecting a greater number. I hope this lower number doesn't mean the donor is knocking on a bit. The mentalling has begun. blush blush it is likely to be a 3 day transfer so a week today that will be. I will see if I can encourage dh into some sff over the weekend wink

Do we need to crack out the brooking wet fish? I hate to smack an almost pregnant person but Sweetie everything will be fine. You're just getting mentalling practice for when you're pregnant smile

Solars Fri 05-Apr-13 16:11:24

Sweetie 6 sounds really good to me, theyll be top quality too and you'll have enough to freeze, plus other follicles may grow between now and Tuesday. You go girl on the sff! Brooking loads for you x

SweetieTime Fri 05-Apr-13 17:52:50

bring on the wet fish grin grin grin

ControlGeek Fri 05-Apr-13 18:13:00

Ooh sweetie theres nothing wrong with 6! Iirc theres a pretty young age cutoff for egg donatiob, so it's not like youre getting six of my crumbly eggs, theyll be young and perfectly healthy. Might they have had to reduce the stims if she was showong signs of ohss or something? Brookinging that these six give you your bfp and a chance at a sibling. No argument smile

ControlGeek Fri 05-Apr-13 18:14:14

Brookinging??? Sorry for imps fingers, i hate poating on my phone!

I dread to think what poating is. At least you don't poas on your phone grin

ControlGeek Fri 05-Apr-13 19:08:02


ControlGeek Fri 05-Apr-13 19:08:57

Dammit i mean <sulk>!!!!


SweetieTime Fri 05-Apr-13 19:59:41

Geek loving the Imps fingers typing. The donor have to be under 36 so she doesn't have to be that young. We are taking it a step at a time. DH have had a good chat on our dog walk only time we get no distractions and have agreed to not look too far ahead. We have to remain positive and take the advice of the experts. Also if I have ET next Friday I am off the hook for the Christening on the Saturday.

Geek the Imps fingers is brilliant!! I miss Imps sad

keepitgoing Sat 06-Apr-13 05:44:28

It's so true about not looking too far ahead, or its overwhelming.

That's bad news about you having to miss the christening ;)

I've not dtd since the day before embryo transfer (there is a study showing it can help the body recognise or prepare for the embryo, I can show you if you want). May think about it next weekend...

geek soon enough we will all poat, POA telephone, to see what's what. But not yet, woman!

Withalittlesparkle Sat 06-Apr-13 07:03:24

I thought maybe POAT was poa tree, geek has had enough of silly old sticks!!

NoCupcakesOrCocktails Sat 06-Apr-13 09:19:26

Geek you have a terrible case of imp fingers young lady. It did make for great reading this morning. I nearly snorted tea out of my nose grin

Sweetie how are you feeling now? 6 follies sound good and she still has time to grow more. It may well be that she is on relatively low dose of stimms if she has a high amh etc.. Am I right in thinking you can sometimes have more than one egg in each follicle? I can't believe ET is nearly here, I'm so excited for you & DH. Brooking for top quality eggs and some lovely frosties for the freezer.

Keep is that true about dtd before hand? Is your scan on the 14th? How are you feeling?

Solars how was the holiday? I've never been to Italy, I'm thinking about booking a holiday after our first cycle but money is a bit tight as I've not been working full time since January. I'm going back to full time with my new job in may so hopefully can save up a bit then. Have you got any appointments coming up?

Beedle did you work up the courage to phone the clinic? I absolutely hate doing stuff like that. I'm going to have to call our clinic on Monday as its 3 weeks since our appointment and we are waiting for a letter to say we are registered with HFEA before we can start. The doctor said it could take a month but all the girls on fertility friends say it should be done in 2 weeks. I would just leave it but AF is due in less than a week & I can't request treatment without the letter.

Anyone doing anything exciting this weekend?

ControlGeek Sat 06-Apr-13 09:31:52

I'm on the verge of giving up caring about my typing when I'm posting on my phone! I most definitely was NOT POAT (telephone) as I was sat in the middle of a busy pub grin However I do remember reading about a phone app they have developed to test for about 20 different diseases from a urine sample. I was a bit worried until I realised you had to purchase a pot and test sticks, then use your phone's camera to analyse the test stick colours.

Well, here I am, tapping away at work again. The woman I'm supposed to be working with hasn't yet turned up, so there is literally nothing that I can do.

sweetie just re-read and seen what you said about having to miss the christening - brilliant news!

Oops colleague's arrived, got to go.

DinoSnores Sat 06-Apr-13 10:32:12

Just wanted to say that I have just guaranteed a BFP for one of you as AF has decided to visit me instead. DD2 is 7 weeks old on Monday! Grr! Anyway, it is all for a good cause if it means another grad from this thread! I'll keep brooking...

keepitgoing Sat 06-Apr-13 10:47:17

Oh god bartlett she's just been circling waiting to go visiting you again. Is this a permanent name change I have to get used to...?

geek why are you at work?

cup definitely ring them and explain about af and see if they can hurry it along.

I'll dig out the article. It showed lower miscarriage rates, but about the same implantation rates. Who knows. My scans on the 18th. 12 days <taps fingers> I had a minor freak out this morning that I just feel quite normal, but dh was v good...

keepitgoing Sat 06-Apr-13 10:49:06

[[ here]]

keepitgoing Sat 06-Apr-13 10:50:04
ControlGeek Sat 06-Apr-13 11:26:03

I've just had a quick scan of that keep, it makes for very interesting reading. Will try and get my head around it properly when I get home. I'm working because it's payroll year end and there's a lot of things that need doing that can't be done in normal working hours.

bartlet do you prefer dino or snores? Sorry to hear AF has arrived so quickly, you would have thought she would give you a few months more off at least. However, you have guaranteed sweetie's BFP <gives AF a long hard stern stare>

cups glad you enjoyed your tea-snorting moment grin

beedle any clinic news?

oops time to go again!

SweetieTime Sat 06-Apr-13 12:11:38

keep I hadn't heard that a sly SFF before ET would be a good thing. I will see if I can encourage DH on Thursday. I still have to get things going in that department this afternoon wink

Bartlett / Dino so sorry that AF has come to visit so soon after DD2 arrival that is just unfair, but I sort of hope that means she wont be visiting any of us for a VERY long time

keepitgoing Sat 06-Apr-13 12:19:16

Well, there's no harm in trying, its quite a nice one esp as we were then told no dtd... I wouldn't have thought it'd be too hard to persuade dh!

snores if you're anything like Jen.... ;)

keepitgoing Sat 06-Apr-13 12:20:33

Esp as you won't have had egg collection, sweetie, so no chance of infection!

Ooh, AF is with a grad smilesmile that is very exciting, Jen had mine for me grin

Sweetie it looks like a bit of sff is a very good idea!

Geek hope you don't have to work too hard on too many weekends!

ControlGeek Sat 06-Apr-13 16:40:05

Fingers crossed this is the last one for a good few months, boo. At least I was able to leave the office just after lunchtime and do the rest from home. Just a case of checking in every so often now to see when a job has finished, so nothing too taxing.

MrG is currently sleeping off his codeine so I went out and bought something new to try and entice him into the bedroom later grin Looks like I'll be getting my CBFM peak tomorrow so it's definitely worth a shot!

Ooh good luck Geek I'm sure whatever you have planned he will not be able to resist bad back or not!!

NoCupcakesOrCocktails Sun 07-Apr-13 10:28:39

Hope you got lucky last night Geek wink

Keep that article is quite interesting, I might get DH to read it. He's a bit of a science geek so I think he'll enjoy it more than all the other IVF stuff I've made him read. Plus it means more sff grin

I have bought the zita west book on assisted conception, I figure I better seriously start getting ready plus I'm still a bit confused about some aspects of assisted conception.

GreenOlives Sun 07-Apr-13 10:53:01

AF is with me today ladies (not fair! sad )- but looking on the bright side that means theres now 2 grads keeping her busy so Im sure there's 2 bfps just round the corner! grin

ControlGeek Sun 07-Apr-13 18:10:46

Haha! He could not resist... unfortunately CBFM decided today is not my peak after all sad Still, two more new sets of undies to entice him with grin

olives sorry to hear you've been saddled with AF. It is very gracious of you to keep her entertained so that an undergrad can slip in a BFP!

cup how are you finding the book? Is it answering your questions?

<waves to all and leaves fresh decaff coffee - who'd have thought they actually made such a thing?!>

Hehe good old seduction!! Love it grin when does the monitor think O day is now??

SweetieTime Sun 07-Apr-13 18:46:37

Olives sorry to hear you are sharing AF with Dino not good for you guys so soon after your LOs arrivals. At least it means some of us might get ours BFPs while she is busy hmm

Geek you work those undies lovely, MrG won't know what is going on. Be careful you don't put his back out again wink

Cup any questions we Brookers could help you with?

We managed a bit of SFF yesterday afternoon. I told DH about your research Keep too, he seemed interested so we may be on for more at the end of the week grin

NoCupcakesOrCocktails Sun 07-Apr-13 22:23:44

Well done on the sff and swi Sweetie and Geek grin

I just bought the book today from eBay so it will be a while before it gets here. I'm driving myself crazy that I'll get OHSS, or we won't get any eggs or they won't fertilise and a million other crazy thoughts. I've been consulting Dr Google stupidly so I thought reading up on it properly would be more sensible blush maybe I need a slap with that fish!

Olives and DinoBart sorry AF is visiting, AF is not due for me in about 5 days. Maybe if she's stuck with you guys I could get a miracle BFP. I've just booked a spa day for may so it would be terrible timing as I wouldn't be able to have the treatments I've booked grin

keepitgoing Mon 08-Apr-13 02:10:20

cup everyone mental about all those things... Does it help to maybe hope ivf might identify the issue even if not successful first time? I think you're unexplained like us, which is frustrating. I think you'll feel better once you start, and then can just focus on one step at a time. But I am brooking massively that you'll get that miracle. It does happen!

Also, just re ohss, if you do get it, which you won't, it tends to come after egg collection, so you can still make embys, they'd just 'freeze all', so it's not like the cycle's wasted.

Glad everyone's enjoying my research smile

sweetie EC tomorrow!! Am so excited for you!

Right, AF is with me too, so I expect this means we are on for another tripe whammy any day now...

keepitgoing Mon 08-Apr-13 07:27:16

Good work, postgrads!

So AF is busy busy busy with the post grads eh?? I will clear off a few more spaces on grads then winkwink

Sweetie ec tomorrow, that's fabulous!! When is transfer day??

Good morning all other brookers, hope m8 are all well, booking super hard for appointments and treatments so start immediately while AF is looking the other way grin

SweetieTime Mon 08-Apr-13 11:02:37

Can not believe AF has struck down so many Grads in one go. At least she is busy with you guys she can not darken our doors.

Cup as keep says everyone mentals about those sort of things. I think the first found of IVF is more fact finding so they know what is going on. I still think it is a very black art as all patients seems to react so different to the treatment, the meds and everything. Just take it in small steps and try not to look too far ahead, just concentrate on the bit you are doing at that time. We are always on stand by with the Brooking wet fish.

Boo clinic are gearing us up for a day 3 transfer on Fri but I was hoping to go to day 5 so we get the best possible chance. I think the fewer embies you get the sooner clinics like to put them back. They are worried the longer they grow them the higher risk of losing them and I suppose the fewer you have to start with the risk is that they will lose them all. We will just have to see how we get on later in the week. Plus we are using the embryoscope to monitor our embies 24 hours a day so hopefully this will give the embryologists the best possible knowledge what they are doing. It is all a waiting game.

So Boo how is booby? not long now until your sneeze. Can not wait to hear what flavour you get. I luffs a surprise.

Wow Sweetie has Mr S made his donation to the process or do they do they use a fresh sample from him when the ec takes place? Sorry I'm full of questions about the processes.

Booby seems quite comfortable and happy at the moment. We should get the eviction timetable when we go back to the clinic next Monday smile tis very exciting, I absolutely can't wait to find out the sex of this chunky monkey I think it's a boy though smilesmile

SweetieTime Mon 08-Apr-13 11:52:17

MrS has to go tomorrow 10am to do his bit, fresh. He is really looking for forward to it NOT then I should get a call in the afternoon to let me know the grand total of eggs. I have to start on the progesterone bullets tomorrow afternoon too, 2pm sharp. Apparently this mimics the embie fertilisation so have to be very specific in timings. Then Wed a call to tell me embie count.

SweetieTime Mon 08-Apr-13 11:53:32

Boo posted before I meant to then.

So eviction timetable does that mean it will be a forced eviction for poor booby? It is Very Very exciting times. Another Brooking baby soon to arrive.

Ooh I am so excited for you Sweetie, I will try not to spare a thought for Mr s tomorrow, don't want to put him off grin

Yep booby is being evicted, they estimate birth weight at 38 weeks to be 8lb+ because of the gd, so they don't want me staying pregnant for too long. I'm at the clinic Monday I will be 37+3 weeks and they are going to try a stretch and sweep to start things off, if that doesn't shift it then I'm in the following week for a proper induction [eek]

keepitgoing Mon 08-Apr-13 12:02:01

Sweetie maybe using that camera let's them choose the best ones by day 3, so best to get them back in. Wowee!!! Are you ok? Are you working most of the time this time? Know you were a bit stir crazy last time.

SweetieTime Mon 08-Apr-13 12:25:18

keep i was off far too long last time. so this time have booked Friday and Monday off with lite touch working from home the rest of next week. I have quite a stressful job made worse at the moment by a couple of new starters and my boss being off. I am not sure about the impact of stress when embies go back but it is a fine line between work stress and ivf mental stress. Where is that wet fish?

keepitgoing Mon 08-Apr-13 12:35:06

I think that sounds perfect. A couple of days after ET.

BeedlesPineNeedles Mon 08-Apr-13 12:59:43

sweetie I hope everything goes well over the next few days. Will you be putting a link to the embryoscope on your facebook? wink

I think its very kind of the post-grads to take AF so early, so a few of us can get our cycles in sync for another triple whammy grin

ControlGeek Mon 08-Apr-13 13:38:24

This is exciting stuff sweetie - brooking like mad for you! Embycam sounds fab - do you get to see it, or is it just for the embryologists' benefit? Would be awesome if you had a weblink to it!!! <geek>

I'm sorry for all the post-grads who are having to entertain AF, she's certainly spreading herself around this month.

A wee bit of confusion in the geek household today. Temp has gone skyhigh this morning, so it's possible that I may have stealth-ov'd yesterday confused SWI-o-meter is looking good, but I had expected to have to wait at least another two days. On the plus side, this will be my first 28-day-cycle in years <keels over in shock>

GreenOlives Mon 08-Apr-13 13:39:36

Talking of which beedles I posted the FRER this very morning in preparation for your bfp! They should be winging their way to Sweden as we speak! grin

Solars Mon 08-Apr-13 16:31:24

Right, finally sometime to myself so I can catch up with you all.

Sweetie that is amazing that it's all come around. Will you also be at the clinic at the same time with DH? The embycam sounds very exciting. I'm so excited for you. Brooking loads!

Cups It was great to have the time off thanks and I would highly recommend some time off after your ivf result, a nice chance for both of you to reflect on what's happened with whatever outcome you get. In terms of appointments DH has his repeat soap free sample to produce a week on thursday and I may be going in sometime this week when af arrives to start my monitoring cycle so hopefully things will start to move for us too although the last month has been nice not paying too much attention to all things ttc related.

Geek glad to hear your'e healing nicely, but sorry to hear you've been having to work weekends. Yay for a 28 day cycle!!

Can't believe af has darkened so many post-grads doors at the moment, I am not due af end of this week but I think it will be nothing short of a miracle if I get a bfp.

Hope everyone else is good, nice to finally have some sunshine around too...

SweetieTime Mon 08-Apr-13 20:30:05

Solars lovely to see you, seems ages since we last heard from you. Good luck to MrS when the time comes, we don't want a repeat of SoapGate wink What does your monitoring cycle entail?

grin at pee sticks wizzing their way over to Sweden. I wonder if they scan mail coming into the country? Olives did you have to state what was in the package?

Geek no one has said if we get to see embiecam but I presume not live anyway. I know other ladies have been given the DVD of their embies but not sure if this is available at our clinic. I would love to watch it live though that would be very interesting even though I wouldn't have a clue what I was looking at

Does anyone know the success rates for different day embie transfers? I am not sure if I should accept day 3 transfer or push for day 5. I have read this article (beware it is negative towards day 3 transfers) and am now confused. I might ask DH to ask the clinic for their info when he goes tomorrow. Does anyone else have any links I can review go mental worrying about options ?

keepitgoing Tue 09-Apr-13 03:32:31

sweetie masses of good luck and love for today. I read that article and think that man has a bee in his bonnet. He also says he does assisted hatching on all.

My clinic here say that 30% of embryos will be chromosomally normal on day 3; 70% on day 5. So basically better to wait to day 5 to weed out the bad ones. But, if you have few embryos there's no point waiting so might as well put them back in the best environment (its thought the lab environment may kill some healthy embryos).

this article suggests no difference in pregnancy rates, and is a RCT. Most just compare preg rates which isn't fair as patients have already been self selected to day 5 transfer, ie those with lots of embryos etc.

I would say two things - firstly I think you ultimately need to go with your Colin CC'd recommendation, as each lab is different and you want them to do what you do best. Second, you are having this camera thing, which may negate the argument of not knowing which the good 'uns are on day 3.

Wait to talk to them, and see what your fertilisation numbers are like.

Good luck good luck good luck x

keepitgoing Tue 09-Apr-13 03:33:32

Your clinic recommendation. Sorry 'bout imps fingers.

BeedlesPineNeedles Tue 09-Apr-13 05:38:50

Really interesting article sweetie but as to whether what he is saying is right, who knows. I had also heard that the uterus is a less harsh environment than the lab. Also that article was written in 2001, that's 12 years ago (I know it doesn't feel like that long shock ) who knows what developments have been made in that time. And if it really was the holy grail of IVF wouldn't more clinics be doing it by now to increase their pregnancy rates? Anyway you have lovely spring chicken donor eggs that will result in your much longed for pregnancy, and I'll brook no argument. So there grin

Sore boobs and negative test here but AF not due for a day or two. Time to get ready for work

SweetieTime Tue 09-Apr-13 08:45:03

Beedle sorry to hear about the faulty pee stick. you just wait until those olives has posted. we all know grad endorsed pee sticks are the most reliable

thanks for those links keep i know we have to do what the clinic colin recommends. Dh has gone this morning with a few questions to ask while he is tgere. He has to wait for them to review has sample so might be a while. He is even more clinical thinking clinic want to do day 3 transfer because they will be closed on Sunday which is day 5. shock I am sure that is not the case as we could do Monday morning. Will see what they say. We really come across as dead stroppy but we really aren't grin

ScarlettInSpace Tue 09-Apr-13 08:46:40

Good luck sweetie x

ControlGeek Tue 09-Apr-13 10:40:47

Good luck sweetie! That article was very interesting, and raised a lot of things I had wondered about anyway but I hadn't spotted that it was written so long ago. I've not been through an IVF cycle yet, so I don't really feel I can comment as I have no idea what I would do in any given situation. It's all very easy to think 'I would do this...' but until I know the emotional investment firsthand it's only theory iykwim. Would pushing for day 5 transfers give you more confidence, weighed up against the potential for losing everything before day 5? Would you prefer to know sooner (ie day 4) that it wasn't going to work, rather than going through a whole 2ww to find out? It's such a horrible, horrible game no matter which way you look at it. Sorry, reading back that all sounds really harsh. I don't mean to sound negative. Perhaps just ask the questions of colin the clinic and make your mind up based on the responses?

beedle sorry about the faulty pee stick. The non-faulty one must still be in the post.

2nd day of high temps here, so stealth ov is almost confirmed. I can't believe I'm going to have a cycle under 30 days!!!

SweetieTime Tue 09-Apr-13 11:56:32

Only 5 eggs, DH sperm rubbish so ICSI. Will hear more later. Am really upset & at work so off home to cry.

keepitgoing Tue 09-Apr-13 12:10:36

Oh sweetie. It only takes one, but I'm sorry you didn't get more eggs. I hope they all fertilise brilliantly with the icsi, they WILL, and you will have them all still there on Friday. X

ControlGeek Tue 09-Apr-13 13:01:51

Sweetie (((hugd))) but 5 is goos, and fertilisation ratea with icsi should hove you an excellent chance. Brooking for some strong growers ready for et x

NoCupcakesOrCocktails Tue 09-Apr-13 13:12:51

(((Hugs))) Sweetie I'm sorry your upset, I know it is not as many as you hoped for. But 5 is a good number, you may still get to freeze some if they all fertilise. I'm sure the ICSI is probably a bit of a shock (it certainly was for us when we were told it would have to be ICSI) however try to see the positive. A lot of people choose ICSI as they feel it is the best way to do it. I hope your DH is ok, I know my DH took it hard over his rubbish sample. We are all brooking for you both xxx

NoCupcakesOrCocktails Tue 09-Apr-13 13:14:51

Beedle I agree the pee stick was faulty. However the triple whammy endorsed stick making its way to you will be brooking no arguement for a BFP smile

ControlGeek Tue 09-Apr-13 14:22:25

...I have just reached a new low in the world of pg announcements. Being forced to applaud. Oh yes.

BeedlesPineNeedles Tue 09-Apr-13 14:24:21

sweetie sorry the news wasn't as good as you had hoped for. But please don't worry about the ISCI, they'll be picking the absolute best sperm to give your 5 eggs the best chance. TBH I'm amazed any bloke over the age of say 25 can manage to go into one of those rooms and produce a good sample with such huge pressure to perform.

((hugs)) to you both and remember it only takes one

BeedlesPineNeedles Tue 09-Apr-13 14:25:19

shock geek Is it the bloke that's pregnant? Then I could possibly applaud!

ControlGeek Tue 09-Apr-13 14:29:00

no beedle, just some super fertile spring chicken who happened to make a v public announcement. If it had been a bloke, I'd have been leading the round of applause myself!

BeedlesPineNeedles Tue 09-Apr-13 14:42:52

geek did she hand around the still-dripping pee-stick for everyone to admire as well? [bitch emoticon]

ControlGeek Tue 09-Apr-13 14:55:20

<snort> <choke> <boak>

NoCupcakesOrCocktails Tue 09-Apr-13 16:11:47

gringringrin Beedle I nearly pissed myself laughing at that. I guess seeing as people have started posting pics of their tests on FB then that's probably not far off!
(btw I dont mean any of the brookers on private pages, I mean those crazy people that post them for everyone to see).

Well done on controlling yourself Geek

How are you doing Sweetie hope you are at home now and taking it easy.

I've just got back from a counselling session, my manager offered it to me when I last spoke to her about IVF & I thought why not. I feel so good now, it was uncomfortable going over some of the subjects but the counsellor was really nice. It was great to be able get all the negative thoughts out without fear of being judged. I've tried counselling once before & hated it so was pleasantly surprised how well the session went. Has anyone else seen one?

BeedlesPineNeedles Tue 09-Apr-13 18:41:20

I just realised we haven't been doing the fertilise eggs fertilise dance for sweetie's eggs. So I'll start it.

Hope you and mrsweetie are doing ok and relaxing at home.

So cups you don't think that me passing round a peestick during our morning coffee break should be the way I announce my pregnancy to my colleagues? I'll have to think again, I've probably got a while to think about it though hmm

ControlGeek Tue 09-Apr-13 20:23:22

<jumps in with pom poms, ra-ra skirt and cheerleader's crop top> fertilise eggs fertilise!!! What do we want? Fertilisation! When do we want it? Now! Gimme an F, gimme an E, gimme a... why couldn't it be a shorter word? <shakes pom poms in a Brooking No Argument kind of way>

SweetieTime Tue 09-Apr-13 20:34:16

Thanks peeps for the rousing fertilisation dance. Lets hope it does the trick, of course it will cos it is the Brookers doing it.

It has been a bloody tough day. I have found it more difficult that when we only got our single egg last time. I think my expectation was so much higher with it being a donor cycle. The clinic had said to expect at least 8 so to only get 5 is very disappointing. DH has also felt down that we had to use ICSI, but I don't really mind that. Of course ICSI has an additional cost but we get a refund as we didn't get 8 eggs. I have had a long conversation with our nurse this afternoon, she said the keep in mind that the donor last, recent, donation had a positive result. So I am hoping for quality over quantity. They will ring us in the morning to let us know how many have fertilised. Then Thursday they will grade them and we decide what to do & when. I think they will push me for a 3 days transfer but we will see how things progress.

Thanks so much for all your Brooking efforts.

Solars Tue 09-Apr-13 20:35:05

<Joins Beedle and Geek in the fertilising dance>

Oh Sweetie 5 is still plenty and as everyone is saying it only takes one but I'm certain they'll all fertilise with the rest to freeze, hugs to both you and DH.

Cups your counselling session sounds so positive. I never took up the free session we were offered at our last ivf clinic mainly because of having to go all the way to Oxford plus DH wanted to come and we could never coordinate a time.

Geek now that is the strangest thing ever, really an applause well done you for coping with that!

<Shakes Pom Poms liberally>

<waddles in, shakes my booty in the finest fertilise you eggys, fertilise properly dance, has a little sit down and shakes a pom pom instead>

Brooking like a crazy person Sweetie

Geek may I congratulate you on not shoving a stapler up her nose, applause indeed. I read a thread on here the other day about gender reveal party's, when will the madness end hmm

Beedle obviously a faulty stick being used there, just you wait and see the difference a brooker stick will make smilesmile

ControlGeek Tue 09-Apr-13 20:52:46

cups I've had counselling twice previously, un-ttc related and about different things each time. The only time that was helpful was when I was honest with myself (and the counsellor). The other time was more a case of going through the motions so it wasn't particularly helpful. Is yours through work or through the clinic?

sweetie I'm so sorry today has been so tough for you. But remember, you only got one egg last time and it fertilised beautifully. Now, you have five. It's fab that they were able to tell you that the donor's previous donation was successful, especially if it was recent. Brooking like billy-o for a positive outcome this cycle for you. ICSI must have been a bit of a shock for DH, but apart from cost I think it's really positive. It gives you a greater chance of fertilisation (from what little I've read), and means they can pick the very best looking sperm for the job (a kind of Mr Universe of the sperm world).

solars it's really lovely to have you back, did you have a nice break?

beedle I dare you - when your time comes (which will be very soon), pass your pee stick round asking 'can you see anything? I'm not sure...'

I had a bit of a double whammy today. Not only was there the pg announcement from hell (complete with applause) but when I got back to my desk this afternoon there was a massive 'congratulations on the birth of your new son' card waiting for me to sign. I didn't even know anyone in the team had given birth confused

I have been a bit mean to MrG. I haven't told him that I suspect ov to have happened. He is working hard to make sure his boys are working hard, iykwim grin

ControlGeek Tue 09-Apr-13 20:56:08

x-post boo to be fair, the person making the announcement kind of did it off the cuff in a spur of the moment type thing because she was jumping about like a mad thing then had to explain why she had just jabbed herself in the stomach with a popped-open safety pin but it was just that everyone else made such a hoo-haa about it. I have to admit to standing at the back of the room, begrudgingly clapping with everyone one else so as not to appear ingracious, muttering to myself 'ffs'. I don't honestly know her situation and she may have been trying for years for all I know. It was just the whole applaud thing that got to me.

Well that is not quite as bad, but still she could been a bit more discreet about it.

ControlGeek Tue 09-Apr-13 21:41:54

Thanks boo that was my thinking. She was leading up a work's group of about 30-40 of us, mostly 20-40 year olds (only 3 blokes in the whole group) so chances are at least one, not counting me, could well have been struggling ttc. I know of at least one other lady in the company who struggled to get her first, and is now going through IVF to try and get her second.

Bloody woman, so you are talking about 37 women of child baring age and she does that. She must have been one that got pg quite fast or by accident because anyone who has had even a minute of struggling ttc wouldn't have done that.

ControlGeek Tue 09-Apr-13 22:49:28

Good point well made boo sad

BeedlesPineNeedles Wed 10-Apr-13 07:07:48

At least you manage to skulk at the back geek . Though I am still slightly confused at the person who started the clapping. Why???

I'm brooking for good fertilisation news this morning sweetie so that we can start the divide embryo divide dance.

ScarlettInSpace Wed 10-Apr-13 07:49:14

Morning all, sweetie I hope you're feeling a it better today. I think IVF puts so much pressure on us that we can never manage our expectations properly as its so emotional. I'd bite your hand off for 5 good eggs lol! I'm sure it will be fine, good luck for the call today, I was on a knife edge the morning after EC so I feel your pain x

boo have you not bloody dropped booby yet ffs?? Are you one if these weird women who likes being diffed? wink

Big hugs to maybe beedle geek cups keep solars, face if you're lurking I hope you are doing ok, and did I see imps posting lately grin grin ummmm jen and bartlett I think I've seen too,sorry if i missed anyone...

AFM I'm on CD17 of the weirdest cycle ever, I've had every type of CM including a couple of days of Gushington Central lol - but none of the hallowed EW variety and I usually get that every month without fail, p'raps my body has given up altogether now and I'm going to be one of those lucky ladies who goes into menopause in my 30's sad

So I don't think I ov'd this month, But I guess if I'm not capable of natural conception I don't suppose it matters! I'm due on next weekend so should be starting the IUI then but I think I'm going to put it off until June, I just think I need a break but I also feel like my chances decrease with every passing month they goes by though, so maybe i should just get started as planned, what does everyone think? OH is useless, he says it's up to me hmm

Brooking for Sweetie's eggs to fertilise...

ControlGeek Wed 10-Apr-13 08:07:22

<flops into a chair after pulling an all-nighter doing the 'fertilise eggs fertilise dance> looking forward to hearing your good news sweetie

Withalittlesparkle Wed 10-Apr-13 08:10:29

Just a quick fly by post wish Sweetie lots of luck for todays news!! commmmmeee ooooonnnnn emmbys!!!

Adding some Brooking for good news Sweetie

Just read back, sorry Scarlet wasn't ignoring you, I'm 37 weeks this week and no sign of booby shifting. The eviction process is starting next week [eek]

Geek hope you have a more peaceful day at work.

Still Brooking for you * Sweetie*, what time will the clinic make the call?

NoCupcakesOrCocktails Wed 10-Apr-13 09:01:38

Come on Sweeties eggs!!!! Brooking for 5 lovely looking fertilised eggs. Good luck my dear.

Hi Scarlett so nice to see you. It's a tough decision to make, I know it's really hard to "miss" a month as I also feel that we only have limited opportunities. But I sincerely think that you need to be in the right mindset to undergo any form of assisted conception. It's a big thing to put your body through, if your mind doesn't feel ready. I guess what I'm saying is if you really feel you need a break then you have to give yourself permission to do that. I remember reading a post a while back from a frequent poster in conception who was really apprehensive about starting an IVF cycle. She had a terrible time during DR and ended up cancelling her cycle herself. Good luck with whatever you decide x

NoCupcakesOrCocktails Wed 10-Apr-13 09:04:02

Beedle I nearly forgot! Any news? Or are you holding out until tomorrow?

keepitgoing Wed 10-Apr-13 10:37:40

Brooks for the eggs> come on eggies fertilise. Call, clinic, call!

Scarlett sorry your dh isn't being more helpful. I'd say a month off can't hurt, can it? In terms of physical things. If you're not champing at the bit then it might be good to give it a while.


BeedlesPineNeedles Wed 10-Apr-13 10:44:23

sorry no news here, I'll test again tomorrow - and then when I get a positive peestick I'll pee on 10 more so I can send one to each of you to admire. You can pm your addresses grin grin

Beedle we should arrange a skyped round of applause for you too grin

Let me just check if is available...

Yep, surprisingly nobody is using that so it is free for lots of pictures of said pee stick and maybe a video of the actual stick dipping so we can watch those lines appear You can email a link to everyone you know and we could put it on fb too grin

Withalittlesparkle Wed 10-Apr-13 11:37:06

rubber good idea, we can all share the link, and put something like "like this link or you hate all babies"

BeedlesPineNeedles Wed 10-Apr-13 11:38:01

I like your ideas grin I will buy that domain name now (or whatever it is you do to get your own website)

I think a video of the peeing in a ramekin might be going a bit far though shock

SweetieTime Wed 10-Apr-13 11:39:09

Morning all, sorry for the delay I have been waiting for the negative aura to pass!!! I think I am getting there only just So thanks for the fertilisation dancing it obviously worked, 4 of the 5 are fertilised and going strong. So they have booked me for transfer Friday afternoon (day 3). They will grade the embies tomorrow and discuss what we/they plan to do. I was worried that they would just bung back whatever but they have assured me we should have at least one worth putting back. They have sent me a stats sheet of what chances each day of transfer carries and what risk of multiple birth. This has actually made me feel much more positive so I am starting to get my head around things again.

So what is everyone else up to????

Beedle will your grads pee stick have arrived tomorrow for you to pee on? Are we having a group web cam of the actual event? I am surprised Channel 5 haven't picked up on this trend they seem to do everything else of bad taste Good luck for tomorrow, I so hope you will be confirming what we all know.

Scarlett so lovely to see you. I have reacted so much worse this time than I did with my own eggs. It is really strange, I almost felt like I was grieving yesterday for what could been. I am not sure it makes any sense but until you have been through it no one can say how you will react. Sorry you are having such a tough time of it too and DH isn't helping you with the decision.

Great to hear Imps is still around, has anyone seen anything from Biscuits lately either?

Geek I always find work pregnancy announcements very difficult, but have yet to come across a round of applause!!! As Boo says I don't think she had struggled as she would have been more sensitive otherwise.

Solars did you ever tell us about Italy? How was it?

Not a video of you peeing, that is a bit TMI but a video of the lines appearing on the stick after the peeing.

Imps is around?? Did I miss her? Hello Imps smilesmile

Sweetie did they say #5 could catch up? You do sound so much more positive today smile Brooking for those little embys to all be A++

keepitgoing Wed 10-Apr-13 11:53:20

Sweetie smile I like the sound of that fact sheet, very professional! Four fertilised normally is just brilliant. Just focus on those now, not what might have been. Hope you're doing ok, its all such a head fuck. X

keepitgoing Wed 10-Apr-13 11:54:27

Yes, I had a lovely message from biscuits after my bfp. I think imps is just here living through our clumsy fingers...

BeedlesPineNeedles Wed 10-Apr-13 12:46:33

sweetie 80% fertilisation rate is fab, glad you're feeling a bit more positive again.
I don't think the pee-stick will have arrived yet, stuff ususally takes about a week (unless you are M & S who still haven't managed to deliver the stuff I ordered at teh beginning of March angry ) And besides I'll save the special brookers stick for when I actually think I am pregnant. Rather than the desperate clutching at straws from random symptoms that I do every month grin

scarlett I also find it hard to miss a month but really 1 more month is not going to make a huge physical difference but it might make a big difference in how you can cope with everything mentally.

ControlGeek Wed 10-Apr-13 13:34:13

<rearranges pom poms and ra-ra skirt to do the 'grow embies grow, divide embies divide' dance>

sweetie that's a fantastic fertilisation rate! Brooking like mad that they grow loads and that you have a choice of how many to have put back on Friday. Is there any chance you could share that stats sheet please? I'd love to know what a clinic rates the chances as being, compared to the widely self-conflicting Dr Google.

scarlett as the others have said, one month won't make much physical difference, but it could just give you the mental lift you need to get back on track with it all. That said, it is v hard waiting for AF when you know you've no cause to hope she won't show. Sorry, that was probably about as helpful as DH's advice to 'do what you want' blush

beedle I'm loving your website plan. You definitely have to have live dye camera action! Please do it complete with drum roll, and canned applause grin

Stealth-ov was confirmed this morning. I still haven't told MrG <naughty girl emoticon> I'm brooking this is the start of things to come, and my cycles will now all be 28 days long!

SweetieTime Wed 10-Apr-13 14:04:04

Geek PM me your email address and I will ping it across to you. It is in PDF so I am not sure how to share!!! It does make very interesting reading IMO.

ControlGeek Wed 10-Apr-13 15:20:17

Thank you sweetie, pm has been sent smile

Solars Wed 10-Apr-13 16:19:12

Sweetie excellent fertilisation rate there. This whole process is so emotionally up and down but I'm so pleased to hear you're feeling a lot better about things. Hols were good, weather poor but just nice to spend time together and a break from normality. Feels like a distant past already as I've been so busy work wise since. Also you asked about the monitoring cycle, it's nothing exciting just bloods on day 1-3, scan a few days before ov and then bloods again 4-6 days after the LH surge. I will also get my amh tested and immunes blood taken too next month. With all this info they will decide what protocol to put me on however if there are issues with immunes then that could delay my start date.

Scarlett that is a tricky one. We consciously took this month off as we thought it would be better having our life back rather than steam roll ahead. If all else fails in making a decision I think gut instinct is always a good fall back. Sorry that's probably not much help either. Is ivf absolutely out of the equation now?

Beedle please do link us the website once it's up and running grin

Geek well done on the early ov.

I'm feeling very bitey today obviously nothing to do with AF's imminent arrival but I'm working with this company trying to set up a website for DH and they don't seem to be listening to anything I'm saying, in fact yesterday I had to create my own template for the look we wanted and send it to them saying I want it to look like this, they sent back a version which was nothing like it [grrrr] I had a long conversation with them this morning and they were supposed to come back with something by 3.30 and I'm still waiting for them to call, very pi**-poor!!! [grrr]

NoCupcakesOrCocktails Wed 10-Apr-13 21:20:47

Just a quick one to say yay for 4 lovely fertilised eggs Sweetie <Joins in the grow emby grow dance>

BeedlesPineNeedles Thu 11-Apr-13 05:36:49

solars I do hope your DH isn't trying to steal my website idea shock grin

keep how are you? Have you got another scan soon?

It was a BFN this morning so I think AF will be here tomorrow, then I shall phone the clinic and hassle them.

keepitgoing Thu 11-Apr-13 06:47:13

sweetie, I'm brooking they're top quality!

Argh at the bfn beedle. Good on you to phone them
I'm ok, though a bit crazy about it all. My scan is a week today, when I'd be 7+6. Am struggling with the heat and fatigue, but very little nausea so far. Should be grateful but am just worrying instead.

Grow, sweetie emby, grow!

Solars Thu 11-Apr-13 09:20:49

Wouldn't that be funny Beedle grin

I guess the worrying never stops now, Keep welcome to motherhood. I'm sure all is well and hope you can relax somewhat, are you still peeing on sticks for reassurance?

Grow, Sweeties embies, grow!

Solars Thu 11-Apr-13 09:22:53

Sorry about bfn Beedle I hope you also get your appointment sorted. Give them grief! I'm pretty sure AF is circling here about to make a swoop on me.

SweetieTime Thu 11-Apr-13 10:26:03

Beedle sorry to hear about bfn. Hope you get your appointment sorted. These things are difficult enough without having to do it in a foreign language.

Solars Italy sound amazing , am well jealous I would love to go. Sounds like the clinic is really keeping a close eye on you. Hopefully this tells them all they need to know. won't be long now

Well our 4 embies have all divided. 1 is slightly behind the others but they will know more about it tomorrow. So we are booked for 2 to be transferred tomorrow afternoon. They will decide tomorrow which are looking strongest. I am really not sure how they will tell much from a 3 day old embie but they are the experts. They will ring with another update in the morning. I also have a reflexology session planned for first thing to get everything prepared.

keepitgoing Thu 11-Apr-13 10:53:52

That's great news sweetie! At day three I think they primarily look at the number of cells, it's later they look at fragmentation I think. But they've got emby-cam too, so assume they look also at when/how they've divided?

solars I've not poas for weeks because I know I have high hcg, they tell you nothing quite soon as it's just +. I think I would relax after the scan when I know something's actually growing..

keepitgoing Thu 11-Apr-13 10:58:46

<Sweetie's gonna have twins>

solars I'm brooking you're wrong about AF...

BeedlesPineNeedles Thu 11-Apr-13 11:18:31

grin at sweeties twins

sounds like your little embies are doing well sweetie and the reflexology sounds like a good plan to relax you beforehand. then how long do we you have to wait until test date?

Solars Thu 11-Apr-13 11:20:45

Sweetie that is excellent news! Just something to consider but have you heard of or has anyone heard of staggered transfers? I've heard they do it at my clinic but not sure what the stats are or the benefits of doing it is, they don't do it as a matter of course but had read some people on fertility friends forum had it so just thought it may be worth asking your clinic about? The emby cam has got to give them a lot more information to help them decide.

Thanks Keep and brooking for your scan. Are you still on progesterone too?

NoCupcakesOrCocktails Thu 11-Apr-13 11:21:58

Sweetie great news so far, I'm brooking like crazy for the other one to catch up. I'm so excited about tomorrow. Ps I think we are totally overdue another set of brooking twins grin

Solars and Beedle I'm also due AF anytime now. How about another triple whammy? winkgrin

Keep can't believe you still have another week to go. When you have been on this ttc road for as long as we have its hard not to worry. BUT you are a brooker, this is a brooking baby so everything will be fine. Btw have we got a name for miniKeep yet? How about Kip? I know it's not as good as Booby but let's face it that's a tough one to top grin

It's my day off, I'm yet to get out of bed shock I better get moving as I've got a million things to do today.

grin ooh Sweetie's twins has a nice ring to it, we haven't had any twins for a while either wink

Brooking really hard for you Sweetie

keepitgoing Thu 11-Apr-13 11:38:41

Go triple whammiers part two!

Yes, am still on progesterone for another week. That is a source of crazy as I think if I m/c it would mask it (it stops bleeding in some, but not all people). cups can we hold off nam
ing till the scan? My scan was meant to be Sunday but we have a five day weekend now for new year, so we are out of town tomorrow till Tuesday night. Still, means there should be mire to see.

Brooking for the Sweetie twins! And for another triple whammy from Solars, Beedle and Cups!

SweetieTime Thu 11-Apr-13 11:44:45

don't be messing about even mentioning twins, tis not even funny - ok??? wink wink wink

grin tis a bit wink sorry Sweetie

keepitgoing Thu 11-Apr-13 11:53:52

But what does The Sheet say about twins..? smile

NoCupcakesOrCocktails Thu 11-Apr-13 12:00:41

Ok Keep ill hold off names till next week smile

Why are the idea of twins funny as long as its someone else? wink

I've finally crawled out of bed, I'm off to buy a present for a work friends 50th birthday. Im thinking scarf the same thing I buy everyone who doesn't like scarfs?!

SweetieTime Thu 11-Apr-13 12:18:22

keep has geek shared the sheet?
ok the sheet says
day 3 double transfer 46% chance of success with 36% chance of twins. shock shock shock

NoCupcakesOrCocktails Thu 11-Apr-13 12:26:43

Sweetie shockgrinshockgrinshockgrinshockgrinshock

keepitgoing Thu 11-Apr-13 12:30:59

Holy cow!!! Does that mean 36% of the 46%? Or 36% overall? It must be the former. Wowee!

What is the success rate if you just do one?

BeedlesPineNeedles Thu 11-Apr-13 12:47:08

or one of the eggs could divide giving you triplets shock grin what does the sheet say about that sweetie ?

ControlGeek Thu 11-Apr-13 13:04:41

ooh sweetie that's fabulous news! Number 4 still has a chance to catch up, but even if it doesn't, that's still a good possibility of two in the womble and one in the deep freeze grin I'll get the sheet put onto the BNA fb tonight. It really did make fascinating reading.

Ooooh I've just had a thought. If they both divide, sweetie could end up with quads!!!

beedle sorry to hear you are still suffering from faulty pee sticks. However, it ain't over til AF lands, so to speak, so am brooking no argument for another tripe whammy with you, solars and cup.

I think I'm about to fall asleep at my desk this afternoon, this is really not good. Very warm and humid in the office today, and not much work going around to keep me awake! I've even succumbed to having a real coffee with genuine caffeine in it. I might take it back though, as it appears to be faulty wink

Both of the eggs could divide, how do you feel about quads gringringringrin

X post Geek great minds eh!!!!

ControlGeek Thu 11-Apr-13 13:06:48

boo great minds grin grin grin

BeedlesPineNeedles Thu 11-Apr-13 13:14:12

I don't think sweetie wants to talk to us any more grin

SweetieTime Thu 11-Apr-13 13:31:24

Sorry, sorry, sorry I had to go to a meeting.

Keep I hope it means 36% of the 46%, I would hate to think it means 36% chance - OMG I need to go lay down in a dark room just thinking about it. Success rate with just 1 day 3 embie would be 45% and 46% with 2.

If anyone says the Q word again I am going to flounce!!!

ControlGeek Thu 11-Apr-13 13:31:31

<looks under the cushions and down the back of the sofa> Nope, sweetie's not there.

<rustles a packet of biscuits>

Here sweetie, have a biscuit. You're going to need to keep your strength up now, my lovely grin

SweetieTime Thu 11-Apr-13 13:36:04

let me try to type the stats as they appear in The Sheet

Day3 (where more than 3 embies are available)
SET 45.5% (47/99)
MBR 0%
DET 46% (129/278)
MBR 36%

Day 4 or 5
SET 52.6% (59/112)
MBR 3.4%
DET 53.5% (15/28)
MBR 26.6%

BeedlesPineNeedles Thu 11-Apr-13 14:03:43

So sweetie MBR I'm guessing is multiple birth rate, so could be more than twins grin

Was quintuplets the Q word we're not allowed to use? grin

NoCupcakesOrCocktails Thu 11-Apr-13 15:31:39

What's the difference between SET and DET? Those stats look pretty good smile

I've just tried making some fudge for the first time, I'm nervously waiting for it to set.

SweetieTime Thu 11-Apr-13 15:57:05

Cup single embie transfer and double embie transfer. hmmmm fudge. I had a nightmare with soggy brownies recently, hope you get firm fudge

<ignores Beedle for mentioning the Q word>

NoCupcakesOrCocktails Thu 11-Apr-13 16:18:06

Ahh it's so obvious now! I was coming up with some crazy ideas.
The fudge seems to be setting well, it's a bit messy though. I've made it for my work friends birthday which is tomorrow. I hate it when baking goes wrong Sweetie, it's so disappointing.

The Zita West book came today, I've read the first part about fertility. I've not learned anything new yet but it's still interesting reading. I'm definitely not dtd enough, I can't manage 3-4 times a week (unless its around ovulation). I'd say we are lucky to manage 2 times a week. I think that's plenty after being together for 9 years! If only we had ttc to conceive during our early twenties when we were at it like rabbits grin

Solars Thu 11-Apr-13 17:14:37

Oh Sweetie 4!!! Cleverly avoids using the word quad You will have your hands full! Still brooking like anything for you x

Cups very impressed with the fudge, hope you're leaving a few pieces of samples smile I have the zita west book too, I thought it was interesting too.

I've just come back from the hairdressers and I didn't have my usual hairdresser as she's away, so this guys talking away as they do and then suddenly asks 'have you got any kids?' I reply no not yet but he was quite sweet as the next thing he said was, 'my advice, don't leave it too late and keep trying, it took me and my wife 2 years and she was initially told she could never have kids' He goes it just happened out of nowhere. I'm glad he didn't ask me any further questions though.

Geek I think you deserve a sleep at your desk, you've been working far too hard recently.

Waves to Gen

ControlGeek Thu 11-Apr-13 20:42:41

Ladies, The Sheet is now up on the BNA fb pages. Sorry it took me so long sweetie

<takes up extra pom poms and does the 'divide embies divide' dance at doubletime to make up for it>

cup well done on the fudge! I've never been brave enough to even attempt anything half as tricky-sounding apart from a very brief foray into the world of jam-making, where I made some fabulous black-currant-flavoured concrete The Zita West book certainly does emphasise the need for frequent SWI/SFF! On the plus side, though MrG refused to read the pages I bookmarked about how sperm need to be regularly refreshed, he has been very good at refreshing his boys manually if we've not SWI/SFF'd for a few days.

solars wow, that conversation could have been so difficult, yet it sounds like he played it perfectly. It's always good to hear those kind of success stories.

Well, overtime is officially over, and my overtime sheet has been signed. I will get the equivalent of 41 hours' extra pay in May's paypacket but I don't think I could have kept it up for even one more weekend. Thank gawd Year End only comes round once a year! I'm 4DPO today. It won't hurt for me to have a bottle glass of wine to celebrate, will it?

ControlGeek Fri 12-Apr-13 07:39:12

Oooh sweetie today's the day! Will you get another call this morning, or won't you find out more until your appointment this afternoon? What time is your appointment?

Brooking for your quads appointment today Sweetie

Withalittlesparkle Fri 12-Apr-13 08:03:09

Good luck sweetie

DinoSnores Fri 12-Apr-13 08:29:35

Go Sweetie! Brooking for a good appointment!

BeedlesPineNeedles Fri 12-Apr-13 09:19:44

Masses of good luck for today sweetie

Solars Fri 12-Apr-13 11:20:22

Brooking for you Sweetie, how are the embies doing this morning? x

SweetieTime Fri 12-Apr-13 11:21:48

Just popping in with a quick embie update for you all before we set off. Appointment at 2pm.

So all 4 are still going strong - YEAH
We have a grade 1 with 7 cells, a molecular (I think this is what she said but basically it is the stage before blasto usually seen on day 4) , a grade 2 with 8 cells and a grade 3 with 6 cells. So they were really happy with this. They want to continue to culture the 8 & 6 cell embies over the weekend in case they get to blasto and can be frozen.

Of course now me and DH worry by having 2 strongest put back we may get twin quads but we will cross that bridge when we get to it.

Bye for now ladies, I will be back when we return with them on board

Solars Fri 12-Apr-13 11:26:47

That is excellent news Sweetie, well done to those embies!! Good luck x

Oh Sweetie that all sounds bloody fabulous!!!! So excited for you grin Brooking super hard for you and the sweetie quads

keepitgoing Fri 12-Apr-13 11:37:10

Wow sweetie they're all doing so well! Your morula sure is in a hurry smile good luck I hope the Transfer's not too painful on the old bladder.

BeedlesPineNeedles Fri 12-Apr-13 12:06:28

fab news sweetie grin

I'll start the stick embryoes stick dance when I get home

BeedlesPineNeedles Fri 12-Apr-13 12:28:42

oooh just had a phone call from the clinic, we have an appointment for Wed next week.

So assuming AF shows up soon we might (fingers crossed) be starting in May grin grin grin grin shock shock shock

ControlGeek Fri 12-Apr-13 13:10:11

OMG sweetie that is the most amazing news!!!! So you are having the grade 1 with 7 cells and the morula put back in today yes? That is an incredible result, and with the possibility of two to freeze, too! Oh I'm so excited for you and your twins/triplets/quads gringringringrin

beedle bloody hell this is turning into a bit of a day, isn't it! Wednesday eh? How are you and DH feeling about that? Brooking that you can start next month!

Oh Beedle that's bloody fabulous news too, what a good Brooking day it is today!!

Solars Fri 12-Apr-13 13:23:51

Excellent news Beedle how exciting!

NoCupcakesOrCocktails Fri 12-Apr-13 14:33:38

Fab news Sweetie you might even have the embies on board by now <dusts off pom poms for implant emby implant dance>

Brooking that you get some nice frosties too grin

Beedle great news on appointment for IVF.

Good news all around in brooking land smile

Ooh, Sweetie should have the embys on board by now, how exciting smilesmile

ControlGeek Fri 12-Apr-13 16:15:20

<starts doing the 'embed embies embed' dance>

feels moderately hopeful for quads since the fertilise embies fertilise and divide embies divide dances went so spectacularly well

ScarlettInSpace Fri 12-Apr-13 16:19:08

Good news beedle welcome to a whole new level of mentalling

FX sweetie

SweetieTime Fri 12-Apr-13 18:36:18

Beedle they don't give you much time to ready yourself do they. Are you and DH ok now it is all happening?

Thanks for you good wishes, it has meant a lot to me over the last few days. I now have best 2 embies on board, hopefully making themselves comfy for the next 8 months. Both were grade 1, one was 7 cell and the other the morula keep thanks for the correct term.
Apparently due to the optimum conditions the embiescope can develop embies slightly faster which is why we got the morula on day 3. They are going to grow the other 2 and give us a call Sunday to let us know if they have made it to blasto and worth freezing. Transfer went well apart from having my fanjo in the air for about half hour with everyone having a good look and was really straight forward, we even saw them spurt out of the catheter.
Geek we do actually get the recording from the embiescope of our embies developing, DH has said he would rather watch this than Loose Women - not sure what that means.

Off to put my feet up and let things settle down.

Oh Sweetie this is the best news ever. Well done you. Hope you have a relaxing evening.

Beedle that's great news

Hello all other brookers x

Oh Sweetie Brooking my hardest for sticky little embys!! Sounds gone so far!

Fab news Sweetie. I'm looking forward to your BFP and confirmation of quads

Good not gone blush stupid fat phone fingers

Squeee so excited for you Sweetie! And Beedle too. If af hasn't appeared yet, does this mean there's still time for an ironic BFP?

ControlGeek Fri 12-Apr-13 19:53:42

oh sweetie soooo excited for you! You are actually pregnant now my lovely! <does the implant embies implant dance like a mad thing> They will stick. I am brooking no argument!

GreenOlives Fri 12-Apr-13 21:45:21

So excited for you sweetie! grin Im brooking no argument that those embies are cosied up in your womble for the next 8 months or so! grin
And great news about your appt beedle grin Still brooking for your ironic bfp this cycle though! wink

Solars Sat 13-Apr-13 08:09:25

So pleased everything went well yesterday Sweetie BFP for sure with those grade 1's! When's your test date?

I had a bit of spotting yesterday so have booked myself in for the first set of bloods for my monitoring cycle at the clinic on Monday.

How is everyone else doing today?

Munxx Sat 13-Apr-13 10:18:41

Just popping to wish sweetie incredibly sticky vibes.

More a lurker than a poster these days. But always a brooker.

Wishing you all well with your brooking!

keepitgoing Sat 13-Apr-13 11:52:29

Well done sweetie hope you're ok! Grow, and stick, emby!

beeds they're quick once they get round to it, hey! Brooking you get to start asap.

SweetieTime Sat 13-Apr-13 16:09:23

Munxx how lovely to hear from you, how are you getting on with your LO?

Solars official test day Saturday 27th, not sure I will hold out that long as no trigger shot this time so in theory could practice POAS ready for the big day from the Tuesday of that week. I will see how things go but I do have some tests that it would be a shame to not use wink

ControlGeek Sat 13-Apr-13 16:33:14

Fuck fuck fuck. Got to have a rant on here as I daren't let MrG see me upset. We were unpacking boxes (yes, still, 18 months after the move) and came across a remote control dune buggy and action men of mine from years ago. I said I might as well freecycle them, and MrG just says out of the blue 'it's a shame you couldn't have given them to your son'. FFS. Why is it so impossible for men to engage brain before working gob sometimes? I just stared at him and tried to pretend he hadn't said it. He'll get all miffed and upset if he knew I was still upset about it now. I efel so stupid for getting so emotional about such a silly comment. I'm not normally like this until the day before AF's due. Right, got to pull myself together. He'll be back from the shops any minute. GRRRRRRRR. Sorry.

SweetieTime Sat 13-Apr-13 20:10:12

Geek I think you hit nail on head about men not engaging brain before speaking. I am sure he would be upset if he realised how insensitive his comments are. Try to not dwell too much as I am sure he doesn't mean that. Have a chat when you are calmer and explain how his comment made you feel. Anyway we all know you will get your DC, Brooking no argument.

Hope you are ok {{{hugs}}}

Oh Geek {{{hugs}}} bloody men angry I second talking to him when you feel up to it, and explain why it upset you. Especially after the surgery and recovery you have been through ready to get your BFP.

BlindKitty Sat 13-Apr-13 20:41:15

Hi Guys, long time no speak! Its Soph80 with a makeover!

Geek - he was prob just thinking out loud and not thought of the consequences. I know I often think its all about me but our men suffer just as much :-( Agree you should tell him how you feel but don't let it turn into an argument x

BeedlesPineNeedles Mon 15-Apr-13 11:05:35

sweetie hope your little embies are making themselves comfy. Did you get good news about freezing the other 2?

kitty how is everything with you?

geek hope you're speaking to MrG again.

There was no ironic BFP here, AF showed up on Sat am. But I'm looking forward to our apointment on Wed. I explained to MrB the basic idea of IVF because he hasn't bothered to read anything about it. and I told him to start preparing himself mentally for more JIAJ grin

For those of you that already have some IVF experience, how long did you stim for? and how does that compare with when you ovulate on a normal cycle?

Hope everyone else is well

SweetieTime Mon 15-Apr-13 16:51:27

Hey Kitty nice to see you again, I didn't recognise you in the new guise!! How are things going for you?

Beedle boo hiss at AF arrival, but yeah hey for the clinic appointment. You defo need to warm MrB up for his bit as he may need to do another JIAJ before the real one. My DH found it really hard or not IYKWIM the more he had to do. I think I did 9 days stims, day 10 nothing, EC day 11. They force ovulation with the trigger shot, which they tell you to take when those follies are ripe at 17mm+. Once you are going on the stims they scan you every couple of days to monitor the follies and how fast they are growing. HTH.

Well both our remaining embies made it to Blasto, but they have only frozen the strongest as the other was poor quality throughout. But I am amazed that the eggs did so well. I was sooooo upset on Tuesday when we only got 5, I couldn't see that we would get any to freeze. So it just goes to show, we might to have got this far with 10 eggs. It really is quality over quantity.

Very quiet in here at the moment, hope everyone else is ok and just enjoying the Spring!!!

NoCupcakesOrCocktails Mon 15-Apr-13 17:27:58

Hi Sweetie that's great news that you have got a blastie for the freezer grin

Beedle it depends on the protocol and how you respond. Short protocol is similar to a normal cycle length and long protocol can be between 6-8 weeks. At my clinic for long protocol you call on 1st day of AF & go in for a baseline scan in first few days. You then start down regging on day 21. That can go on for about 2 weeks.Then you move to stimms which is around 10-12 days. Then you get your trigger shot and they give you a day for EC. Then ET on day 2, 3 or 5. I think that's how it works anyway blush

I'm sorry AF arrived, if its any consolation we are cycle buddies as the bitch turned up here on Saturday afternoon confused I called the clinic to request treatment & they can't fit me in this month as they already have too many people cycling so I've got another chance for a miracle BFP.

Kitty long time no see! How are things with you?

Solars Mon 15-Apr-13 18:00:15

Sweetie excellent news on the the blasto! How are you feeling today?

I'm a cycle buddy too with you both Cups & Beedle AF arrived on Saturday too, however mine has been quite worryingly light this month. I'd go with what Cups has said about ivf, really depends on what protocol you're on and how you respond. I think I stimmed for 12 days.

Welcome back Kitty how are you? Where are you with everything?

Brooking for your BFP this month Cups shame they couldn't fit you in this month, do you know which protocol you will be on?

So I have kicked off my monitoring cycle today, got my results back already and all looks good, fsh of 8.3 so I'm happy and they've booked me in for my mid cycle scan next Wednesday. They also took my bloods for my amh but will get those results in a few days time. So far I'm impressed with the clinic, always call back when they say they will and very polite too even though it seems so hectic when you go there.

ControlGeek Mon 15-Apr-13 20:49:45

soph/kitty lovely to see you back! How is everything with you now?

beedle bugger to AF. BUT! Wednesday is just around the corner, and your BFP will be not far behind it. Poor MrB having to do more JIAJ though.

sweetie oooohhhh you got frostie!!! <squeee> You are absolutely right, it is quality over quantity every time. I find it utterly amazing that 60% of the eggs collected didn't just fertilise but are still, to this day, little tiny human beings (albeit one's a bit chilly now).

cups nooo not you too sad bloody AF, and bloody clinic not being able to fit you in. Brooking for your miracle BFP though. Are you guaranteed a place next time?

solars dammit how can AF get to so many brookers at once? But you say it's a bit light? Could you be doing a smeg? Congratulations on starting your monitoring cycle, and I'm very impressed that you will get your AMH results back in a few days. Mine were 6-8 weeks.

Thank you for letting me rant on Saturday. I don't know what's been the matter with me this weekend, I've been bursting into tears at the drop of a hat. Temps have been crazy high so maybe I'm going in for a cold. I've got another 5 days before I am due to test ha! who am I trying to kid? Since when has that stopped me? or no doubt I would have caved by now, things have been so weird.

ControlGeek Mon 15-Apr-13 20:53:45

Sorry boo I missed you out!!! Have a (((hug))) in the hope that it will kick-start your sneezebirth!

BlindKitty Mon 15-Apr-13 21:08:46

beedles solars cupcakes geek sweetie HEY GUYS!!!!! I'm good thanks! Afraid I don't have any special 'news' to tell you just yet! Decided to listen to Mr Kitty and gives MN a rest as he thinks it makes me worse. Turns out, it doesn't haha so I'm back!!!!

I've de-nurseryfied the nursery (its not just a cream room that makes me even more sad)

Oh and I've booked a hol (for next month) so fingers crossed I'll be sooo relaxed and shagging so much I'm bound to get pregnant yeh right

beedle sorry to hear about AF sad. What jiaj? x

keepitgoing Tue 16-Apr-13 04:44:58

Hi soph! Good to see you. Jiaj is jizz in a pot (for sperm analysis).

beedle I stimmed for only eight days, which is quick. Triggered cd11, EC cd13. I normally grow my follow big and fast then ovulate cd14-15 (have wondered if this is an issue). Good luck for tomorrow.

cup that's so annoying you can't start this month! Was it the third month they have to say yes?

I have my scan in just over an hour. Terrified.

BeedlesPineNeedles Tue 16-Apr-13 05:46:48

Is it today keep good luck brookety brookety brook

Excellent news on your little frostie sweetie it is a fabulous outcome from 5 eggs

Must get going more later

BeedlesPineNeedles Tue 16-Apr-13 07:30:36

so geek crazy high temps and feeling over-emotional? PIAR girl!

and solars strangely light period? the same goes to you!

MrB was rather shocked at coming home to find 3 letters from the health authority last night. But one was the bill for my smear, one was my thyroid results (fine apparently) and the third was a whole load of stuff and questionnaires for our IVF. I had a quick read through and apparently any frozen embryoes must be destroyed if we spilt up or either of us die (its the law). I can kind of understand, its a bit gruesome to think of your children being born after you have died but I was still slightly shocked and I had better not bump off MrB yet grin

ControlGeek Tue 16-Apr-13 07:38:49

Sorry beedle, curiosity got the better of me. BFN (but it was only 9DPO, what the heck was I thinking?) Wow at the law stating your embies have to be destroyed in the case of death or split-up. I'm so relieved that's not the case here what with MrG being 59 and me being no spring chicken myself

keep oooh it's today!!! For some reason I thought it was tomorrow. What will you see today? Will you see the heartbeat? <excited>

<does a very early morning Implant Emby Implant dance for sweetie>

kitty A break sounds like just what the dr ordered. With luck, you'll be bringing home more than you went with, iyswim smile

keepitgoing Tue 16-Apr-13 08:14:24

It was meant to be Thursday but I had a little blood yesterday and freaked out and moved it earlier. But all is great, we saw the heartbeat, and it looks a bit like a baby!! I'm in shock, think I'd convinced myself it was bad news but now maybe I'll let myself start to believe I'm pregnant smile

sweetie I'm SO pleased you have a frostie to make a sibling for the twins once you have the energy...

beedle we had to say who got to decide on any frosties if we split up or one of us dies. But it'd be weird for mrkeep to find a surrogate...
geek, too early. Slap wrist.

solars, one word. smegs...

BeedlesPineNeedles Tue 16-Apr-13 08:42:44

sorry about the scary bleed keep but woohoo a heartbeat congratulations grin grin thanks

Yay keep you are an USEPP!

keepitgoing Tue 16-Apr-13 08:50:16

It was only a tiny bit of blood, but I assumed the worst, of course... 7+4 woo hoo.

Can't wait for more brooking bfps!

Solars Tue 16-Apr-13 09:04:27

Keep excellent scan news!

Kitty the break sounds like a great idea, anywhere nice?

Good luck for tomorrow Beedle

Geek way too early but hope you're feeling better.

I may have PIAR but the clinic took my bloods yesterday and I'm sure they would have picked up anything strange with my hormone profile then but all was normal confused I'm thinking it has something to do with the ayurvedic herbs I took.

NoCupcakesOrCocktails Tue 16-Apr-13 10:37:12

Woo Hoo Keep fantastic scan news!!! Are you and DH going to tell your family now?

Beedle at our appointment DH had to decide what would happen to any of our frosties in case of divorce/death. He signed to say I could still have them which I thought was quite sweet and a bit morbid

Geek it's too early my dear, brooking for a BFP in a few days grin

Kitty a holiday sounds great. I thinks it's really good to step back from ttc every now and again.

Solars so what happens after the monitored cycle? Will you start straight away? If so me, you and Beedle could all be doing IVF at the same time.

Sweetie how are you doing? Are you back at work yet?

I'll need to request treatment again next AF, they can turn me down again but they must accept me on the third request. I'm really hoping it will happen next month, I was gutted when they said no. Looking on FF forum there is a real mix of when people get accepted so fingers crossed for next time.
As for other news I start my new job in 5 weeks! I'm so excited/nervous. I'm going to hand in my notice this week!

keepitgoing Tue 16-Apr-13 11:02:23

We have told parents today, siblings tomorrow smile

Oh cup so its either four or eight weeks, ish. Brooking for four. Great timing on the job BTW... wink I love handing in my notice, so liberating!

Solars Tue 16-Apr-13 11:19:53

Cups how great about the new job. I'm brooking you get to start next cycle. I hope I can start straight away but just depends on the immune blood results, it can delay things if I need further treatment for that, although if they're not too bad they give you treatment during your cycle. They said that due to my endometrioma it is quite likely there may be an immune issue for me. I'm getting my bloods done for the immunes next week when I go in for my scan.

ControlGeek Tue 16-Apr-13 13:12:40

keep yay!!! I'm sorry you were freaked, but hopefully the scan has put your mind at ease. So, you now have a heartbeat on board that is slightly baby shaped grin How did telling your and DH's parents go? Are you looking forward to telling siblings?

solars would they test for HCG as a matter of course? Might it be worth a little PIAR just in case?

cup brooking that you don't get as far as your third cycle, and that your next one is all systems go (if you don't get your ironic BFP before then of course). Yay for the new job! Is there any chance your current job might offer you garden leave when you hand your notice in? I love a good notice-handing-in, I do!

Well, we hit another milestone in the journey to being able to afford mat leave today, we have both cancelled our mobile phone contracts and are moving on to PAYG. Every little helps, as the saying goes!

Have you amended your spread sheet Geek, we would have for it to be wrong grin


SweetieTime Tue 16-Apr-13 13:19:16

Get you tripe whammiers in the making Cup Solars and Beedle - come on ladies just how exciting would that be?

Geek sorry you got a BFN but it is still very early, when is AF not due? Did you sort things out with DH and any more news on his kids?

Solars that is an amazing FSH result, fingers crossed AHM is equally good.

Kitty glad you are back to join us, there is always the if to MN or not to MN debate. But I think it helps if you are posting on supportive boards not the free for all that some boards can be.

Beedle the guidelines for our embies were slightly different with them being donor eggs but more for if we were to let them be used for research, that would require the donors consent. It is really difficult being asked to think about DH death or incapacity and what to do. But at least the law decides for you.

Keep sorry you had a bleed but AM-AZ-ING that you saw keepbean heart beat. What a great day for you both. grin at USEPP. So what did parents say? Where they shocked or did they let on to a sneaking suspicion?

Cup good luck with handing your notice in, will you be emotional? I once cried when I handed my notice in

Boo are you bouncing?

I am trying not to spend all my time on internet for obvious reasons. I am working from home watching Jeremy Kyle for the rest of this week so am taking it easy and trying to keep stress to a minimum. I had a bit of cramping yesterday. Am hoping it was the twins quads getting comfy wink although it was probably wind grin

ControlGeek Tue 16-Apr-13 13:32:36

boo I did it straight after posting my last post on here, it reminded me that I needed to update it!!! I'll need to wait until my next pay day to add on my pathetic payrise though. How's the stone sucking turning going?

sweetie deffo the twins triplets quads quints emby getting comfy grin You do realise how disappointed we are all going to be when we find out you are going to have a normal, straightforward, uncomplicated singleton pregnancy don't you!

AF is not due on Saturday, based on a 12 day LP. I know 9DPO is desperately early, but with an LP of 10-12 days, I don't have many occasions to slip in a sneaky little test! I feel a bit shortchanged this month as I ov'd so darn early for me that I really haven't peed on many sticks at all. Ya know, I might just have to do another one tomorrow, just to be sure grin

ControlGeek Tue 16-Apr-13 13:36:13

Sorry sweetie meant to add, all is fine with me and MrG, I didn't talk to him about his comment in the end. He doesn't take well to being told something he's said has upset me, he sees it as a criticism. It's water under the bridge now. No news on his kids, sadly. We've heard nothing at all from his son, despite emailing him, since they met. We had a very blunt email from his daughter confirming that her birthday present had arrived, but only because MrG sent two emails asking her to let him know or should he chase the post office. I'm hoping it's just that routine has been upset a little with easter holidays etc, but v disappointing about not hearing more from his son. The meeting sounded like it had gone very well. Sorry for the ramble!

SweetieTime Tue 16-Apr-13 15:08:56

Geek glad you have been able to move on from the comments. Poor MrG not having heard anything after the meet up. very strange when everything seemed to go so well. Hopefully he will hear something soon.

keepitgoing Tue 16-Apr-13 15:52:23

That's weird about the son, geek, but hopefully he's just been busy. Has the maternity spreadsheet taken account of this year's cold weather and higher heating bills? Does it differentiate potential different costs for a summer vs winter baby? smile

sweetie glad you're ok. I had various cramps and things. They can be nothing but a good sign. Are you on progesterone?

Telling parents was fab. My parents know of our issues, so were v delighted for us, mum of course cried. They didn't know when we were having ivf, though knew it was on the cards. Mil was for once speechless. She doesn't know any of our story, though dh hinted of a long journey today. It'll be her first grandchild so she is v excited, we had to tell her not to say/do anything yet as its early. 'I've been waiting for this for years' she said. Well, ditto...
My sister, with crazy preggo hormones, will go crazy, I predict...

Solars Tue 16-Apr-13 16:49:54

Cups I just read this and thought of you!! A different way of handing in your notice.....

SweetieTime Tue 16-Apr-13 18:17:48

Aw keep what a lovely reaction. I am so chuffed for you. Cannot wait to hear how your sis takes the news, I would expect tears with all those preggo hormones.

Yes the joys of the twice daily progesterone. I am covered in hormonal volcano spots along my jawbone. I have been eating prunes in addition to my normal all bran to keep things moving blush blush but no other side effects

NoCupcakesOrCocktails Tue 16-Apr-13 21:41:28

Solars brooking for good immune results. Fingers crossed we all get to start next month.

Sweetie I'm dreading the progesterone suppositories, I'm a spotty mess at the best of times smile

Geek I'm sorry to hear that MrG hasn't had much response from his DC. I still think its great that he reached out to them. I'm saying that as someone who has no contact with my father.

Keep that sounds so nice, it's one of the crazy things I dream about being able to tell family and friends.

Hope Maybe, Scarlett and Cartoon are doing ok.

No chance of gardening leave, but I should be entitled to a weeks holiday so will hopefully only have another 3 weeks to work. I think I will be pretty emotional as its the longest I've ever worked somewhere & I've got a lot of friends there. That cake is awesome Solars but I don't think my boss would appreciate it grin

keepitgoing Wed 17-Apr-13 03:16:37

sweetie I have only 10 days left of progesterone! Can't wait not to be all gunked up. I have been a massive farty-pants for weeks...

Withalittlesparkle Wed 17-Apr-13 06:58:04

doesn't want to be the one to tell keep she has another 33 weeks of being a farty pants

ControlGeek Wed 17-Apr-13 09:11:46

keep I'm so glad telling your parents went well! I think it's obligatory for mums to cry. Looking forward to hearing how preggo hormone-crazy sis takes it. I bet she'll be thrilled that there will be a cousin so close in age to her own to play with not to mention mutual baby sitting

solars I saw that too, what a fab way to hand your notice in (providing you like the place you are leaving, of course).

sweetie how long do you have to take the progesterone for? It sounds... messy hmm

cup yay to having a week's leave owing you. That will give you a nice break between leaving your old job and starting your new one. How long have you worked there for?

<waves to fartypants sparks - how much longer for you, missus? How many weeks are you now?

The spreadsheet takes into account what our average utility bills will be, since I pay by monthly direct debit so it's the same value in both summer and winter to balance the costs. I'm still working my way through the credit I've got with the company, but the spreadsheet takes account of what it will be once that credit is gone.

I'm really getting into my POAS stride now. Day 2 of BFNs (just ICs so they cannot be trusted), but temps still high. In a way, the months where my temp drops from about 9DPO are the easiest, otherwise I can't help getting my hopes up.

BeedlesPineNeedles Wed 17-Apr-13 10:15:05

Our appointment went well, I start downregging at teh end of the month. I have to do 3 weeks of it but the alternative was waiting until August shock So we'll have egg collection at the beginning of June. I've only learnt about the nasal spray so far, I'll learn how to do scary injections in May. i'm feeling quite excited about everything.

Oh and by the way sweetie we spoke with the dr briefly about identical twins from 1 egg and she said she had had 1 case of triplets from 1 egg shock grin grin

ControlGeek Wed 17-Apr-13 10:20:38

beedle yay!!!! That is brilliant news. So quick! How's MrB feeling?

sweetie a shot at sextuplets eh? Bet that'll make you wince a bit...

keepitgoing Wed 17-Apr-13 10:29:36

Aaaaah beedle I'm so excited for you!!! How's mrbeedle? BTW have they told you no swi this month? Some clinics do, some don't and a lady on our egg buddies thread got her bfp in the month she started downregging and all is fine...

BeedlesPineNeedles Wed 17-Apr-13 10:33:03

geek he's OK, I think he's a little shocked at everything but glad that we can try before the summer, when we met the dr she wasn't sure if they'd be able to fit us in before they close for the summer. We didn't have much chance to talk afterwards as we had to get on different trams to get to work but he seems OK. Not quite as excited as me grin

I'm ignoring comments about becoming a farty pants, MrB already thinks I am one blush

BeedlesPineNeedles Wed 17-Apr-13 10:35:54

Xpost keep no we're OK to try this month -we talked about how my preiod ahould come within 2 weeks of starting the downregging and if not to call them. I said I would be thinking I ws pregnant if it was that late. They did say that had happened before and it was no danger to teh baby. which I'm rather glad about as we have a weekend away in a posh hotel this weekend (prime shagging time grin )

keepitgoing Wed 17-Apr-13 10:38:17

Great stuff. Gosh its just brilliant you can start so soon!

BeedlesPineNeedles Wed 17-Apr-13 12:05:15

Oh and I was dildo-cammed again today, and rather disappointingly there was no baby hiding inside me. It appears all those peesticks over the last few months weren't lying.

Strangely enough having a woman dr using the dildo-cam didn't make me want to giggle at the inappropriateness of all, like it did the first time when I had a youngish bloke standing between my legs grin

Withalittlesparkle Wed 17-Apr-13 12:33:11

Beedle Thats fabulous news smile having to wait until august would have been rubbish!!

Keep I missed the part of telling your parents, how did you do it? I gave my mum the letter confirming my scan date, which she read, gave no reaction to, then reread, and kept saying the words antenatal appointment which was at the top of the letter, then after about 5 minutes she looked up, looked at me, looked at mrsparkes and just burst in to tears.

Geek I wouldnt worry too much about lack of contact from Mr Geeks children, these things take time and even if the meeting went well theres so much for all parties to process. Maybe drop him another email about planning a get together, try and leave it a little casual though, you dont want to put too much pressure on them!

oh and I'll be 31 weeks on Friday, so theoretically only 9 weeks left for me, but for some reason I'm pretty sure he is going to come late.

I'm very sorry I havent had much time to keep up to date with the TTC brookers, but I feel some BFPs on their way, in my waters!!!

Beedle brilliant news, so pleased you get to start so soon smile good luck!

Geek I second the suggestion further meetings with Mr G's DCs, it couldnt hurt.

Booby is firmly staying put despite some vigorous bouncing on my ball and daily walks still trying to avoid doing the sex, but I might have to grin 12 days to induction!

Boo you have to play hide the sausage. It's Brookers Law that I just made up

Geek fingers crossed that Mr G gets some more contact and that they simply just need a little time to get used to the whole idea. Also can you please stop using faulty pee sticks, we want to hear BFP, not BFN

Beedle sounds like your BFP is nice and close now

Yes Rubber Mr B keeps saying the same hmm

Solars Wed 17-Apr-13 16:44:54

Beedle that is fantastic news that you can start straight away, I'm so excited for you!

Keep how did it go with telling the siblings today? I can't wait to be giving good news like that to my family and friends I often dream about it too

Geek I too wouldn't think too much into lack of contact with MrG's kids at the moment, I like Sparkes advice, that's what I would do too. And still too early with the pee sticks!

Brooking Booby is here real soon Boo

And wow to 31 weeks Sparkes

MrS has his repeat JIAJ action tmrw let's hope he gets it right this time I have been coaching lecturing him on the do's and don't's! He almost made me cry the other day when he admitted to me that when I told him I was having a really light and strange AF he got really excited that this was it finally. I sometimes forget he wants that BFP as much as I do sad

NoCupcakesOrCocktails Wed 17-Apr-13 17:27:02

Wow Beedle fantastic news that its happening so soon grin

Sparks I can't believe your 31 weeks shock and I'm so excited for Booby! Hurry up!

Solars good luck to MrS for tomorrow. Well done on giving instructions so there should be no chance of soapgate2 smile

Geek yet again I'm in awe of your ControlGeek ways! I am in no way financially ready for mat leave despite 3 years of ttc grin

I've only been in my job for 3 & a half years. I push myself to move a lot as its great experience. I normally only stay for a year to 18 months. You always know someone in a new place as the nhs is like one big unhappy family.

Sorry if I've missed anything, I'm on a tram for the first time in years. I'm meeting DH after work for a film and dinner.

ControlGeek Wed 17-Apr-13 18:21:23

beedle glad MrB is getting his head around it all. Hopefully, now that the process has been started, he'll not find it so hard and won't have too many opportunities to put things off Glad to hear you're still able to squeeze in your ironic BFP before IVF though!

sparks 31 weeks?? Where on earth has that time gone? Thank you for your kind words and advice (and to everyone else, too) about MrG's children.

MrG emails them both every fortnight even if there is no reply, but we're too nervous to suggest another meet with the son just yet. An open offer was made to him in the first email MrG sent after the meet, so we were just going to leave it at that rather than seem to be putting pressure on. Before the meet-up, MrG and son were emailing on a daily basis, sometimes two or three times a day. I'm thinking of suggesting MrG send him a quick note tonight just asking if everything is ok. What do you all think?

c'mon boo, hide that sausage bounce that ball! We're all dying to see your booby grin

Rubber I will do my best grin Perhaps I should do another test tomorrow morning, just to get the faulty batch used up, y'know!

solars the very best of luck for MrS's JIA re-run tomorrow. Well done on the anti-soapgate coaching. Brooking that you get an excellent result back and that that was just a one-off. I think it's ever so lovely that he's as keen for the BFP as you. Sometimes I get scared MrG is only still plugging away because I want this so badly.

cup hahaha I love that my spreadsheet has people in awe of it, I had no idea I was doing anything unusual or out of the ordinary when I created it. It's such a 'me' thing to do. 3.5 years is a fair old time - I bet there's always something new to learn with the NHS, too.

Right, I'm off to give my faulty pee sticks a pep-talk for tomorrow morning!

ControlGeek Wed 17-Apr-13 20:05:35

Of all the weird coincidences, MrG just popped on to send an 'are you ok' email to his son, only to find a long email from him waiting for him in his in-box, sent just after 6pm tonight. Spooky! and hugely relieved

Oh Geek that is fantastic!! So pleased for Mr G smile

Withalittlesparkle Wed 17-Apr-13 21:54:17

Oh geek fabulous grin see amazing what a bit of brooking good will can achieve

keepitgoing Thu 18-Apr-13 04:00:27

geek that's weird but brilliant about the email!

Good luck to mrsolars today. I'm glad he's wanting it as much as you but know what you mean it's hard to see. The other day when I had a spot of blood mrk had a tear in his eye and I could tell he was really scared. I don't know why I was surprised, we're prob just more vocal, I guess.

You guys are sweet to ask my 'telling' stories. I dreamt about it all every month too. We've kept it simple - just blurted it out really. I don't need gimmicks or anything. We're doing it over Skype. It's hard with the time difference and people at work and me going to bed so early so we still have my and dh brothers. Told my sister who went hypersonic and squealed, and cried... She asked my 2yo niece if it's a girl or boy, it's a boy, apparently smile she has a 100% success rate so far - she guessed my sister's correctly. So there you go!

BeedlesPineNeedles Thu 18-Apr-13 06:40:16

geek excellent news about MrGeek's son

solars good luck to MrSolars today, hope it goes better this time

sparks 31 weeks, how did that happen? shock

keep how cute is your niece? I also dream about telling my family I'm finally pregnant. Our first cycle of IVF will nicely coincide with a trip back to England to tell everyone if we suceed. I'm varying betwen being really excited about starting and then feeling that I shouldn't get my hopes up as the first attempt is more likely to fail than suceed.

And in other good news my brooking pee-sticks arrived yesterday from the lovely olives which should increase my IVf chances by at least 50%* grin


GreenOlives Thu 18-Apr-13 08:17:33

*definitely (or maybe even by 75%) grin

keepitgoing Thu 18-Apr-13 10:42:59

beedle there's no harm in positive thinking. But ivf should I think be seen as a three round thing if possible. I think you get quite a few goes?

My niece is actually ridiculously gorgeous. Am slightly worried no baby could be as cute, but dh assures me that's where parental bias comes in.

sweetie how are you doing, lovely?

BeedlesPineNeedles Thu 18-Apr-13 18:40:00

Yes keep 3 goes with up to 3 FET from each as if I'll manage to freeze 3 eggs I did actually say the same thing to Mrb just so that he didn't think i was guaranteed to get pregnant at the first attempt. Anyway I'm going for feeling positive whilst not actually expecting it to work.

I haven't seen maybe lately, is she having a break whilst waiting for IVF?

BlindKitty Thu 18-Apr-13 21:49:17

solars and geek going to Thailand...can't wait!!!! Really need to spend some quality time with Mr B! Been so pre-occupied on getting pregnant, I've forgotten all about my husband and that he's not just a sperm provider

Sweetie Using MN does not make me worse FACT!!! NOT using OPKs makes me stressed FACT!!! and BBT'ing does not stress me out FACT!!! Wish people would stop telling me what makes me stressed lol!!

keepitgoing Fri 19-Apr-13 03:44:04

Huh?! Have I missed something? A brookers visit to Thailand? Amazing.

beedle that's great you get plenty of chances. I'd say you can get three frosties, we did. It sounds like a plan - positive but not expecting.

I was thinking of maybe yesterday. Isn't she starting vvv soon?

keepitgoing Fri 19-Apr-13 03:47:32

Also face good luck for your appointment soon.

kitty I just realised you meant you're coming here, not solars/geek. I live in bangkok, if you would like to meet up let me know!

SweetieTime Fri 19-Apr-13 08:23:51

Sorry I haven't been around last few days I have been feeling very anxious about things, rising panic most of the time. I was really positive to start with, everything seemed to be going well. I had a few cramps Mon & Tues and sore boobs for a few days but now nothing. I am trying to stay positive but just feel no different so am expecting the worst. I hardly slept last night for worrying. I have another week to go until OTD but am thinking of testing next week just to put myself out of this misery.

Keep how did you feel at this stage d8 after transfer, I know you had a d5 transfer though. What day was your OTD? How did you stop yourself from mentalling all the time as you didn't test early did you? You must be made of stern stuff.

Sorry this is all me me me!!!

BeedlesPineNeedles Fri 19-Apr-13 09:07:05

sweetie sorry you're feeling so anxious. I'm afraid I don't have any words of wisdom, I imagine I will be exactly the same in 2 months time. But nothing you do at the moment will have any bad effect on your little embryoes (assuming you're not planning to take some hard drugs or go skydiving). So I'd say try to find something you can do that will stop you thinking about it even if its just for 10 mins. I'm sure your lack of symptoms can in no way mean that it has failed . And whilst some people may say that they knew they were preganant from 4dpo, I'm sure that for 99% of them it is just a few random things that they realise about afterwards. Over the last 2 years I've had and I'm sure you've had almost all the apparent early pregnancy symtoms but it didn't mean anything. And we all know that no symptoms is a symptom.
And finally don't worry about being me me me ((hugs))

Oh Sweetie I am sorry to hear you're having an anxious time of it, though it is completely understandable! At this very early stage I would be surprised if you had many symptoms, the consensus over on grads has been at about the 6 week+ time. Is there anything distracting you can do in the mean time? {{{Hugs}}} thanks

Sweetie the only symptom I had was AF not appearing. It's not guaranteed that you will have any so please don't feel that it has all gone wrong.

NoCupcakesOrCocktails Fri 19-Apr-13 09:50:06

Sweetie (((hugs))) I think Beedle and Boo have said it all really. Most people have no real symptoms before their BFPs. I can't imagine what you are feeling and I'm sure like Beedle says we will be the same in the tww. I think Keep didn't really have any symptoms either. Trying to keep yourself busy is the only thing you can do x

I've been feeling really low too ever since the clinic turned us down for treatment this month. I don't know why I feel so terrible, I mean its only another 4 weeks until we can request again. I honestly feel like I can't face another AF. I don't even want to DTD as I feel like if I do ill spend another 2ww obsessing about being pg even though we have practically no chance of it happening. God I'm totally crazy, it's all I can think of. Please feel free to slap some sense into me confused

Withalittlesparkle Fri 19-Apr-13 10:03:11

sweetie, i really feel for you, and I know I should be shot for saying it, but you really need to try and relax (much much easier said than done).

I completely agree with Boo, generally there arent any symptoms before BFP. I had really sore boobs the day after that was literally it.

In fact ironically I had more pregnancy related symptoms the month prior to my BFP than I did when I was actually pregnant!!!

keepitgoing Fri 19-Apr-13 10:40:06

sweetie, lovely, it's so hard. OK, I had very sore boobs, but I had had them ever since stimming so I had to discount them. I did feel womb cramps a couple of days I think, but they are easy to mix up with bowel stuff.

Basically I felt normal, as everyone said. And anything I might have had could have come from the fanny candles, so I tried to force myself not to think about it.

I had a transfer on 5dpo, and otd was 14dpo, so I only had nine days to wait. Its harder for you, not knowing for longer. I think testing at 14dpo is reasonable IF you use a good test - as you know I had a crappy boots one.

I almost gave in on 12dpo, but dh was right that a potential false negative would be v bad. I guess I thought there was plenty of time to be sad after otd, so I really just focused on that.

But, of course, if you read my posts back there is plenty of crazy, and the night before otd I cried and said I didn't want to test. Actually that was d8 after transfer, so where you are now.

If you test at 14dpo you have only four days to wait. I always think once you wee your FMU it's easier not to test as you can tell yourself it'd be too weak.

I promise promise you that you can't guess the result. I kept thinking of one of the girls on the egg buddies thread who was 100% sure it hadn't worked - had had a few things then woke up one day and nothing. But she had a bfp.

Start your countdown, keep busy, and know that we are all here cheering you on xxxxx

Solars Fri 19-Apr-13 11:11:40

Oh Sweetie I agree with what everyone else has said. When I was on my 2ww for ivf I worked in the mornings and would give myself some sort of treat in the afternoon, I used my relaxation cd a lot especially during the afternoons and before sleeping, you had one too, right? and I also watched a lot of movies and read which helped to keep the crazy away. But I also kept repeating in my head that I've done everything possible up until now and it's in the hands of fate what happens next. Also it helped thinking it's not time to worry yet a phrase my mum always used to say Big hugs.

SweetieTime Fri 19-Apr-13 13:12:22

Thanks all for your understanding and such positive comments. I think I will be better this weekend when DH is home to occupy me. We have quite a few plans so I think this will help the time pass. We are going looking for a new sofa, boring I know but it should take my mind off things.

Solars I have been working from home trying to get most things out of the way in the mornings so I can do my relaxation CD on an afternoon. I have been using rescue remedy, suggested by my reflexologist, and lavender scented candles. I agree I am now at a point where there is very little else I can do. Just just hope the anxiety won't have a negative impact on the result. I am sure others who have had a nervous 2ww have gone on to get their BFP.

keep thanks for your reassuring post, being a recently confirmed IVF preggo I am sure it is all fresh in your mind what we actually go through. I have a couple Superdrug tests, which people seem to rate, so will see how mental I am early next week. I was sort of thinking of POAS Wed which would 16dpEC, but might crack even earlier. Like you say though a negative test would be difficult but I will take it a day at a time.

Cup I found/find the waiting really tough too. I know when I was on the drugs before I knew what was happening I just hated it. Is it the control freaks in us that makes us like this? I almost found it reassuring that we needed assistance, it sort of took the pressure off the trying every month and we went back to just SFF, do you remember those heady days?

Very unMN hugs back to all of you thanksthanksthanks

ControlGeek Fri 19-Apr-13 14:15:01

oh sweetie I've only just had time to read the thread, and can't really add anything to what the others have already said. I hope you're able to distract yourself until DH comes home. Sofa shopping sounds nice. I really wish I could give you a huge hug.

Sorry I dont have time to post more, work is manic (as usual) today. AF will be with me either later today or tomorrow, so I will make sure I sit on her very hard so she can't bother sweetie

keepitgoing Fri 19-Apr-13 15:40:46

sweetie worrying will not do anything, that's crazy talk. So that's one less thing to worry about. Ok, Wednesday, five days. You can do it. I like sofa shopping BTW.. x

Sweetie you need to start playing a really addictive game. Hours can pass like minutes smile Candy Crush Saga and 4 Pics 1 Word seem to be the popular ones at the moment.

ControlGeek Fri 19-Apr-13 17:16:43

Ooh yes to candy crush. Hours, you can lose. Hours!

Solars Fri 19-Apr-13 18:32:55

Hope you're feeling better Sweetie you've got the best possible chance for a BFP so no more worrying, you hear? I'm brooking no argument smile I love sofa shopping too, hope you have a lovely weekend!

We got our SA results back, didn't give us the exact numbers but he told me, good quality, borderline morphology and negative antisperm antibodies! Yay! Recommended we go for ICSI still just in case especially after what happened at our last attempt but depending on what happens on the day it could be straight forward ivf even. Not heard back yet about my amh but I'm going to the clinic next week so will just speak to them about it then.

How is everyone else doing?

Solars Fri 19-Apr-13 19:02:41

Just had a proper read back, Cups the waiting is really awful isn't it, think of the time as getting your body and head into tip top condition before going through ivf, probably doesn't help but it's something. You're a week down now though so it won't be long! Big hugs to you too.

keepitgoing Sat 20-Apr-13 11:18:14

solars that's good news. Morphology won't matter if you can do icsi anyway, but you never know!

SweetieTime Sun 21-Apr-13 06:45:35

Don't shout at me, I know I have tested really early but BFP!!!

Tested on an ic and thought I could see a faint line so tested again with a superdrug pink test, fortunately I had piar.

OMG shocked shock shock shock

BeedlesPineNeedles Sun 21-Apr-13 06:54:05

Eeeeeeeeeeeek really early positive sweetie do you think it might actually be twins? Congratulations its absolutely fab news grin grin grin thanks I think I can almost see your smile from here!

keepitgoing Sun 21-Apr-13 06:58:26

Oh my god oh my god oh my god grin grin sweetie that is just brilliant news!! At I think 12dpo it's not that early beedle, don't scare her already.

Oh, just millions of congratulations, I am SO pleased for you! Was just coming on to write your three day countdown...


BeedlesPineNeedles Sun 21-Apr-13 07:06:40

You're right keep 12dpo isn't too early, but it was too early in the morning for me to work that out grin Not that twins, triplets or quads are scary wink

keepitgoing Sun 21-Apr-13 07:12:57

No, no safe having seen just the one Double/triple/4x the fun I'm sure


SweetieTime Sun 21-Apr-13 07:16:17

thanks for the congratulations

keep is right it is 12 days past egg collection. It is quite a strong line too wink I will think about that when I have to.

Sweetieeee! Massive congratulations! Really chuffed for you!

Aah Sweetie that's amazing news, brilliant, I am so happy for you gringrin thanksthanks

ScarlettInSpace Sun 21-Apr-13 08:47:21

Fab news sweetie am chuffed to bits for you x

NoCupcakesOrCocktails Sun 21-Apr-13 09:11:19

Wooooooo Hooooooo!!!!!!!! Congratulations Sweetie that is fantastic news. When is your official test date? Are you in shock? How's MrS doing?

keepitgoing Sun 21-Apr-13 09:24:22

Am still smiling for you smile
What are your plans to celebrate? One day at a time.

BlindKitty Sun 21-Apr-13 09:35:11

OMFG!!!!!! This is AMAZING news!!!!!!! I'm so happy for you sweetie!!!! Really need some good news these days xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

keep ah would have loved to meet up but we are literally flying in and out of suvarnabumi as going strait to samui! Whats the weather like there atm? How come you live in Bangkok? Very jealous! x

ControlGeek Sun 21-Apr-13 09:45:07

Awwww sweetie flowers flowers flowers flowers flowers that's just the best news! And, it proves that no symptoms = symptoms. Yay!!! Have you told MrS yet?

cups I'm sorry you are feeling so low. It is horrible when you think things will happen in a certain timeframe and something out of your control causes them to be delayed. speaking from bitter experience, my IVF should have been last August I know what you mean about not being able to face AF. I find that I feel like my life is on hold, like it's another month that has been wasted, and I just want to lock myself away for the first couple of days and cry. Even MrG just doesn't get it. I'm not sure there's anything we can really do other than allow ourselves to feel like that - it really is ok - but then it's on to the next month, doing all we can to prepare ourselves. At least you know that they can't turn you down indefinitely.

AF turned up here yesterday morning and I was going to try alternative tactics to keep her from sweetie's door - made up the spare room for her, plied her with wine and fine food, you name it. Ha! It's back to the broomcupboard with her for the next few days now grin

keepitgoing Sun 21-Apr-13 09:47:08

It's bloody hot at the moment kitty! Esp in BKK, it'll be nicer in samui - we're going there next month, can't wait! We live here temporarily for dh's job, back home at the end of July. I have to say I'm a bit fed up of the heat and a/c all the time. I seem to think the a/c smells weird crazy preggo and I'm not supposed to overheat too often which is a challenge. Swimming pool is my lifesaver at the mo.

Withalittlesparkle Sun 21-Apr-13 09:50:54

Omg OMG OMG! So keep leaves a message on the antenatal to 'get over to the other quick' this is totally amazing!!!! Sweetie I'm so incredibly chuffed for you smilethanksthanks the power of assisted brooking is actually amazing

Keep just one bit of vital advice for you, after the winter/spring we have had please don't arrive back here complaining you were too hot, you may get poked in the eye grin

Sweetie does Mr S know? What's next, do you go back to the clinic for official testing or early scans??? I am so excited <off to plump the cushions on the grads sofa grin>

keepitgoing Sun 21-Apr-13 09:55:01

geek you are selfless to keep AF away smile do you have an appointment through yet?

Yay to assisted brooking!!

keepitgoing Sun 21-Apr-13 09:57:38

<pops on bikini to saunter out to the pool> so sorry boo wink. But shouldn't you be in labour?

BlindKitty Sun 21-Apr-13 10:04:18

keep when r you going to samui? We're there 2nd-18th May x

I'm trying to be Keep believe me!! Only 8 days till induction though smile <envy of bikini and pool>

SweetieTime Sun 21-Apr-13 11:20:14

Very envy of your trip Kitty

boo are you still bouncing? We meed to get babyboo out before eviction day.

Geek thanks you for keeping AF distracted, it has obviously worked. Just need that to continue for the next 8 months.

MrS is aware but not sure if to believe it until OTD. I suppose he is just cautious and worried about getting his hopes up. Obviously he is pleased but a bit worried we have tested too early. We have been to ASDA to get the weekly shop to celebrate, I did buy myself some flowers. We also called at Superdrug to get some more pee sticks there may be a few required over the next few days but it was closed. We live the high life us you know grin But yes we will be taking it a day at a time for now, don't want to look too far ahead. Yesterday and today have felt very crampy in the womble area like AF is around the corner which is why I tested this morning, so will just wait and see. But am still smiling gringrin

I'm not surprised your feeling cramps with 2 of them getting comfy in there gringrin and don't worry about testing lots, I did every day sometimes twice for about 2 weeks before I believed it properly blush

Yep still bouncing when my hips allow, and walking as much as I can too putting off doing the sex till I absolutely have to wink

ControlGeek Sun 21-Apr-13 11:29:31

No keep, no news on the appointment yet. Now that I'm in my third post-op cycle I'll give the consultant a ring just really annoyed that he doesn't have a secretary ANYWHERE but he only does two days a week at the clinic. The last time he dictated a letter it took nearly three weeks to get to me.

<passes AF a large flask of coffee and tells her to stay put in that there broomcupboard for a while yet>

keepitgoing Sun 21-Apr-13 11:30:52

MrKeep for a while was just happy we could get that far, iykwim.

Test away!

Do you get a blood test later this week then?

SweetieTime Sun 21-Apr-13 11:40:35

keep the clinic haven't mentioned blood tests. They have just given me 2 poas type tests. I have to do on Saturday and Monday then ring them. But I will run out of womble lining meds at weekend so need to speak to them about getting more especially now that it looks like i will be needing them. what are you still taking?

keepitgoing Sun 21-Apr-13 11:45:41

They may sort two blood tests after you tell them about your bfp then, to check rising levels. Though I think not all clinics do. Mine is private heavy on tests/scans.

I am still on the progesterone pessaries, which is all I've been on since ET. Are you on anything else? I will have my last day on Friday, at 9 weeks (woo hoo!). They tested my progesterone levels twice since bfp as well.

GreenOlives Sun 21-Apr-13 11:56:57

sweetie This is fanbloodytastic news!! grin grin grin thanks thanks thanks That's made my weekend, im so,so happy for you grin grin

SweetieTime Sun 21-Apr-13 12:00:55

thanks olives

keep I am on progesterone pessaries and climival which supports the womble lining. I think it is a form of hrt but I take increased dose of 3 tabs a day.

keepitgoing Sun 21-Apr-13 14:47:33

That's weird they didn't give you enough to get through to OTD... It's quite a late one they gave you anyway, most are about 16dpo it seems. A quick Google it looks like you'll be on them for a while.

Oh, it's just the best news; hope you're having a lovely day, expect you're in disbelief. flowers

BeedlesPineNeedles Sun 21-Apr-13 15:03:25

I can't believe they wanted you to wait until next weekend to test sweetie

I'm on my way home after a lovely sunny weekend away with MrB, I'm going to have to get him into a hotel room more often during shag week. 3 times in 2 days is almost unheard of for us. Anyway we've done our best to get our ironic pre-IVF BFP now I just need to relax for the next 2 weeks grin

boo I thought it had been warmer in England recently? Hope booby makes an appearance soon

DinoSnores Sun 21-Apr-13 15:29:57

sweetie!!!!!! What wonderful news!!! That is just wonderful!!!!

BlindKitty Sun 21-Apr-13 15:30:12

keep how many weeks are you now? Just read back, great news on the heartbeat. smile

Sweetie I had to pop in to give you the biggest congratulations ever! I'm so so chuffed for you xxx

keepitgoing Sun 21-Apr-13 15:45:05

Well done beedle. No more swi for you for a bit either way. SFF...?

kitty I'm 8+2 wonders when you stop counting the days

maybe <rugby tackle> what's new your end lovely?

BlindKitty Sun 21-Apr-13 15:55:09

ah keep you just keep counting the days if it makes you happy. xxx

Beedle we have had a couple of nice days but not much yet, it will be a lovely summer, brooking no argument!! Sounds like a perfectly timed dirty weekend grin

Keep don't let that Maybe go until we know she is ok!! Maybe lovely, where you been, how are you?

Booby seems very comfy and settled I don't think there is much chance of it happening before induction, but that is only 8 days away so not long now!!

Oh and Keep I'm still counting the days now, 38+2 grin