The big fat posifrickintivity, but only on a friday thread - TTC after MC and not lose your head

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Ladies - a brand new lovely shiny thread for us to fill! Enjoy x

Meant to say - thanks to Saggy for the ace thread title - much better than anything my boring imagination could come up with!! X

SaggyOldClothCatpuss Wed 13-Mar-13 00:27:03

Thanks, but posifrickintivity was Fods idea IIRC! grin
anyway, ChokkaGirl, checking in! Making sure I dont lose you all! smile

Lucky13ForBaby Wed 13-Mar-13 06:49:15

Marking my place on the new shiny thread. Off to test. Last chance I reakon today .

icklemssunshine1 Wed 13-Mar-13 06:57:39

Grabbing my place for later. Off to work & then straight home to do an ovulation test - 2 weeks today since ERPC, hope I'm one of the early ovulation ladies!!

MrsHowardRoark Wed 13-Mar-13 07:01:35

Hello all, do you mind if I join in?

I had a MC in January at 9 weeks. I seem to be back to normal now so we've decided to TTC straight away.

It all feels like a lot of pressure this time round and I know that any pregnancy will now be more stressful.

It'll be nice to have some company smile

Zeuxippe Wed 13-Mar-13 07:02:08

Found you! Like the Fred title, vg!

So do we have a list of poasers? Vicarious thrills, still on af here...

IBelieveInPink Wed 13-Mar-13 07:15:18

Thanks Mummy

Welcome mrshoward. Sorry you find yourself here.

I am going to hang around here before moving on if you ladies don't mind. Let's face it I'm pretty sure this one will end the same, so hanging here until I get a sign otherwise (that''ll be a scan in 8 weeks then!)
Still freaking out. The usual. Argh.

alyant79 Wed 13-Mar-13 07:30:24

Morning all. Good luck lucky.
And fx ickle

Welcome mrsH we all know what you're going through

Lucky13ForBaby Wed 13-Mar-13 07:38:02

Welcome Mrs. Sorry for your loss but welcome to the thread. So I've tested and there is a faintest of faint lines. So faint it could me an evaporation line or another chemical. I've done 2 FRET and they both the same. Guess its a waiting game! After the last 2 MC and scared to be hopeful . Buy yey to a bit of positivinfrigity!

IBelieveInPink Wed 13-Mar-13 07:45:34

Woohoo lucky!!!! (bad for ruining Friday testing club) but fanfrickentastic for BFP! Fingers and toes and eyes crossed it is a sticky one smile

alyant79 Wed 13-Mar-13 07:55:44

Oooooh lucky!!!
I hope it sticks smile

Floweroct Wed 13-Mar-13 07:56:06

Ooh fingers crossed lucky

Liking the title name smile

Got my first positive opk today since mmc luckily been doing it every other day so three days on a row now and then fingers crossed!

Thunderbuns Wed 13-Mar-13 08:01:03

Thanks for the new thread ark, good title. Welcome mrs.

Oo lucky! Am overlooking the luck of the system, but congrats!!

thanks for pink

Bootyboo Wed 13-Mar-13 08:13:09

Morning all!! Oooo a lovely shiny new thread strokes Just marking my place too

Oh wow Lucky! Congrats - that is fabby news! I'm defo waiting until Friday (Janie I'm watching you! Garden and I will hunt you down and pelt you with fish fingers if you give in and test early without us!) grin

No sign of AF yet either - I am thinking of renaming myself 'Yoyo Knickers' though after all the TTC'ing and checking the last few days!

Hope it's a good day for everybody and all are well xxxx

shellshock7 Wed 13-Mar-13 08:17:58

Oooh fingers crossed lucky hope it's a BFP smile

Anyone not on a phone and can copy stats over?

Getting to scary point where lost last one, didn't sleep well last night worrying hmm

SpanishLady Wed 13-Mar-13 08:24:00

Santa 2 MCs TTC cycle 0 (i.e. before first AF after ERPC)
Shellshock7 2MCs 1 DS - TTC cycle 3 - BFP
alyant79 1 DD 1MC - TTC cycle 0 (next week)
Camomile 0DC, 1MC, TTC cycle 0
Lucky13: 1DS 2MC, TTC cycle 5 post MC
Janie: 0DC, 1MC (oct12), TTC cycle 3 - poas 15/03/12 eek
BumpKitty: 1 DD 1MC - TTC cycle 3 - BFP
SpanishLady: 1 DS, 1MC, TTC Cycle 0 - BFP (before first AF post MC)
MrsSpencerReid 1DS 1MC cycle 0
Bodicea: 0DC, 2MC, cycle 3 post ercp - BFP
Mummytothearkbuilder 1DS 1MC TTC cycle 0
SaggyOldClothCatpuss 1DS 1DD 1MC -TTC cycle 1

Bootyboo Wed 13-Mar-13 08:27:04

Here we go - hope I haven't missed anybody:

Santa 2 MCs TTC cycle 0 (i.e. before first AF after ERPC)
Shellshock7 2MCs 1 DS - TTC cycle 3 - BFP
alyant79 1 DD 1MC - TTC cycle 0 (next week)
Camomile 0DC, 1MC, TTC cycle 0
Lucky13: 1DS 2MC, TTC cycle 5 post MC
Janie: 0DC, 1MC (oct12), TTC cycle 3 - poas 15/03/12 eek
BumpKitty: 1 DD 1MC - TTC cycle 3 - BFP
SpanishLady: 1 DS, 1MC, TTC Cycle 0 - BFP (before first AF post MC)
MrsSpencerReid 1DS 1MC cycle 0
Bodicea: 0DC, 2MC, cycle 3 post ercp - BFP
Mummytothearkbuilder 1DS 1MC TTC cycle 0
SaggyOldClothCatpuss 1DS 1DD 1MC -TTC cycle 1
Fod: 1DS 1DD 1MC TTC 0 cycle
Booty: 0DC, 1MC (oct12), TTC cycle 3 - poas 15/03/12 eek
JBrd: 1 DS, 1 MC, cycle 1, AF/BFP due March 15/16 (according to my calculations) or March 12
Zeu 1DD 1mc cycle 1 bfp due 11th April

Bootyboo Wed 13-Mar-13 08:27:45

We are just too efficient Spanish grin

SpanishLady Wed 13-Mar-13 08:34:14

Lucky - oooh! very excited and pelased for you - make sure you let us know when you POAS again and it gets darker!

FX flower and for those due to test on Friday!

Hi MrsHoward - welcome and in the nicest possible way hope you are not here very long!

I am now 5+6 and feel like im stuck in 1st trimester groundhog day - its like walking in thick deep sticky mud trying to move my dates along. I am sticking to my plan though not to see MW until week 8. And at least this time I feel something - constant tummy ache, pulling and prodding feelings and very sore boobs!

Shell - I know it can happen any old time frankly but Im also focused on the time I lost my last one - 8+5 - how foolish I am to think if I get past that Im safe but its all Ive got!

DH refuses to allow me to book an early scan so then think maybe I should call the MW earlier and they might offer me one? Is is bad that I have fleetingly considered booking one by myself and going alone? I wont as I think DH would be very hurt to have missed the first chance to see the bean but his being all calm and rational is driving me nuts!

His BF's wife is due any day now with their second and I was saying how exciting it was etc and he said actually not to be mean but not really for me I just want our own baby to be ok and the next 8.5 months to hurry up - so I was mollified for 5 seconds!

not easy this malarky is it?

Bakingtins - hope you find us X

SpanishLady Wed 13-Mar-13 08:35:38

ooh booty - yours is more complete though!

Ohh lucky how exciting!! I will keep my fingers crossed!! X

alyant79 Wed 13-Mar-13 09:53:38

spanish i'm sorry to hear about groundhog day sad

I think I'd be tempted to call midwife and try and get early scan.

I seem to remember that you only dtd once after your mc and got pg I'm clutching at threads here is this right? what day post mc was it? not that I want to copy you or anything, just trying to plan the un-planable...

JBrd Wed 13-Mar-13 11:05:28

Good morning, ladies, marking my place <<waves to everyone>>

I'm part of the Friday testing club - I was going to wait until Saturday, but have been 'persuaded' to join Fertile Friday (read: threatened with fish slaps smile).

CD25, no AF so far. Temp shot up again this morning. I'm symptom spotting like mad, only that there are no symptoms! I never get sore boobs or a metallic taste..

SpanishLady Wed 13-Mar-13 11:08:23

Hi alyant - thanks for your sympathy its just something you have to go through right!
Have just been to the doctors at work (have a prob with my ear) and asked him and he said I should tell them immediately - they may not doing anything as was my first MC but they should know about the new pregnancy

in terms of my dates.....

Jan 31 - first day of spotting
Feb 1 - MC and scan confirming MC
Feb 6 - last day of bleeding
Feb 9 - BFN preg test
Feb 13 - EWCM/OVL pain (neg OPK)
Feb 14 - BFN preg test (neg OPK - didnt test again after this one)
Feb 16 - DTD
Feb 24 - BFN preg test
Feb 25 - very faint BFP
Feb 26 - 1-2 weeks on Clearblue digital
March 1 - 2-3 weeks on Clearblue digital

I think I must have actually ovulated maybe Feb 15?

alyant79 Wed 13-Mar-13 11:30:40

Thanks spanish! I am filled with false hope again!

WillSantaComeAgain Wed 13-Mar-13 11:36:25

Hello everyone!

On ovulation between a MC and first AF, I've had people tell me that OPKs don't really work. Who knows though?!

Spanish - my MW tried to refer me for an early scan and the bastards refused. However, I got one in the end and I'm really glad that I did (even though it was bad news) because otherwise I'd have had a further four weeks of waiting and wondering and uncertainty. Can you try to explain to your DH that its not being negative, but will help you relax and therefore lead to a less stressful pg?

Because I'm totally anal in a slightly control freak way organised, below is the list in alphabetical order (I still get confused about who is where on this rotten journey)

Alyant79 1 DD 1MC - TTC cycle 0 (next week)
Bodicea: 0DC, 2MC, cycle 3 post erpc - BFP
Booty: 0DC, 1MC (oct12), TTC cycle 3 - poas 15/03/12 eek
BumpKitty: 1 DD 1MC - TTC cycle 3 - BFP
Camomile 0DC, 1MC, TTC cycle 0
Fod: 1DS 1DD 1MC TTC 0 cycle
Janie: 0DC, 1MC (oct12), TTC cycle 3 - poas 15/03/12 eek
JBrd: 1 DS, 1 MC, cycle 1, AF/BFP due March 15/16 (according to my calculations) or March 12
Lucky13: 1DS 2MC, TTC cycle 5 post MC
MrsSpencerReid 1DS 1MC cycle 0
Mummytothearkbuilder 1DS 1MC TTC cycle 0
SaggyOldClothCatpuss 1DS 1DD 1MC -TTC cycle 1
Santa 1 DC 2 MCs TTC cycle 0 (i.e. before first AF after ERPC)
Shellshock7 2MCs 1 DS - TTC cycle 3 - BFP
SpanishLady: 1 DS, 1MC, TTC Cycle 0 - BFP (before first AF post MC)
Zeu 1DD 1mc cycle 1 bfp due 11th April


shellshock7 Wed 13-Mar-13 11:54:29

spanish if we get past this one I've still gotta get to scan date and pass first MMC date so there's no let up hmm

Thanks for doing the stats!

alyant79 Wed 13-Mar-13 12:04:19

excellent work santa

I'm updating it to reflect my current status (officially cycle 0 for the second time now)

Alyant79 1 DD 1MC - TTC cycle 0, bfp due 8th April (?)
Bodicea: 0DC, 2MC, cycle 3 post erpc - BFP
Booty: 0DC, 1MC (oct12), TTC cycle 3 - poas 15/03/12 eek
BumpKitty: 1 DD 1MC - TTC cycle 3 - BFP
Camomile 0DC, 1MC, TTC cycle 0
Fod: 1DS 1DD 1MC TTC 0 cycle
Janie: 0DC, 1MC (oct12), TTC cycle 3 - poas 15/03/12 eek
JBrd: 1 DS, 1 MC, cycle 1, AF/BFP due March 15/16 (according to my calculations) or March 12
Lucky13: 1DS 2MC, TTC cycle 5 post MC
MrsSpencerReid 1DS 1MC cycle 0
Mummytothearkbuilder 1DS 1MC TTC cycle 0
SaggyOldClothCatpuss 1DS 1DD 1MC -TTC cycle 1
Santa 1 DC 2 MCs TTC cycle 0 (i.e. before first AF after ERPC)
Shellshock7 2MCs 1 DS - TTC cycle 3 - BFP
SpanishLady: 1 DS, 1MC, TTC Cycle 0 - BFP (before first AF post MC)
Zeu 1DD 1mc cycle 1 bfp due 11th April

Also totally agree with that rationale for an early scan

SaggyOldClothCatpuss Wed 13-Mar-13 12:09:38

Morning everyone.
Well, if I can be grateful in anyway for MC an ectopic, its that the EPAU have already told me that they want me nice and early next time. Its a double edged sword though I think. Sometimes ignorance is bliss in a way.

Alyant79 1 DD 1MC - TTC cycle 0 (next week)
Bodicea: 0DC, 2MC, cycle 3 post erpc - BFP
Booty: 0DC, 1MC (oct12), TTC cycle 3 - poas 15/03/12 eek
BumpKitty: 1 DD 1MC - TTC cycle 3 - BFP
Camomile 0DC, 1MC, TTC cycle 0
Fod: 1DS 1DD 1MC TTC 0 cycle
Janie: 0DC, 1MC (oct12), TTC cycle 3 - poas 15/03/12 eek
JBrd: 1 DS, 1 MC, cycle 1, AF/BFP due March 15/16 (according to my calculations) or March 12
Lucky13: 1DS 2MC, TTC cycle 5 post MC
MrsSpencerReid 1DS 1MC cycle 0
Mummytothearkbuilder 1DS 1MC TTC cycle 0
SaggyOldClothCatpuss 1DS 1DD 1MC -TTC cycle 1 POAS March 29
Santa 1 DC 2 MCs TTC cycle 0 (i.e. before first AF after ERPC)
Shellshock7 2MCs 1 DS - TTC cycle 3 - BFP
SpanishLady: 1 DS, 1MC, TTC Cycle 0 - BFP (before first AF post MC)
Zeu 1DD 1mc cycle 1 bfp due 11th April

Saggy my EPU have told me the same things - they will scan me at what they think will be 8 weeks and then at 12 - she said if I find out early they will scan be straight away. Need a BFP first though!!

It's rubbish that the units vary so much across the country.

SaggyOldClothCatpuss Wed 13-Mar-13 12:35:59

BFPs will come. Where's your posifrickintivity?! grin

SpanishLady Wed 13-Mar-13 12:54:04

absolutely - listen to Saggy girls!

SaggyOldClothCatpuss Wed 13-Mar-13 13:12:17

<<doesn't hear that very often!>> grin

I've listen to saggy - posifrickentivity is back - bring on all the BFPs!! smile

SaggyOldClothCatpuss Wed 13-Mar-13 14:08:46

Its the waiting which is haaarrrdddd! According to the app, I should ovulate friday, so DTD all this week, then the looooonnngggg 2WW! Im stuck in the house and time is passing soooooooo slowly! The good thing is that until AF hits Im full of hope and enthusiasm! Im going to sort out my knitting chest and start a nice big blanket, to give me something to do!

jmf294 Wed 13-Mar-13 14:13:55

Added myself to the list:

Alyant79 1 DD 1MC - TTC cycle 0 (next week)
Bodicea: 0DC, 2MC, cycle 3 post erpc - BFP
Booty: 0DC, 1MC (oct12), TTC cycle 3 - poas 15/03/12 eek
BumpKitty: 1 DD 1MC - TTC cycle 3 - BFP
Camomile 0DC, 1MC, TTC cycle 0
Fod: 1DS 1DD 1MC TTC 0 cycle
Janie: 0DC, 1MC (oct12), TTC cycle 3 - poas 15/03/12 eek
JBrd: 1 DS, 1 MC, cycle 1, AF/BFP due March 15/16 (according to my calculations) or March 12
jmf294: 1DS, 1DD, 1MC, TTC Cycle 2 post MC
Lucky13: 1DS 2MC, TTC cycle 5 post MC
MrsSpencerReid 1DS 1MC cycle 0
Mummytothearkbuilder 1DS 1MC TTC cycle 0
SaggyOldClothCatpuss 1DS 1DD 1MC -TTC cycle 1 POAS March 29
Santa 1 DC 2 MCs TTC cycle 0 (i.e. before first AF after ERPC)
Shellshock7 2MCs 1 DS - TTC cycle 3 - BFP
SpanishLady: 1 DS, 1MC, TTC Cycle 0 - BFP (before first AF post MC)
Zeu 1DD 1mc cycle 1 bfp due 11th April

I'm feeling the postivity!!
Bring on those BFPs!!

Anyone ever had a look at the sperm meets egg plan.
I had a read- so it is DTD everyother day from day 8 and then when you get a positive OPK DTD every day for 3 days, miss a day and then once more.
It was designed for people post MC and increases the chance of a BFP each month from 20% to 40%.
I'm giving it a go- starting tonight!!!

Does anyone use the clearblue digita OPKs?
Just checking what time of day to use them-I know other tests say use midmorning/afternoon as the LH isn't high in the mornning but the clearblue says you can use them any time.
THoughts anyone??

TheWoot Wed 13-Mar-13 14:25:45

Hi everyone, I've jumped over to this new thread. May I ask a question? How long after your MC did you all ovulate?

I had a MC on 18/12/12 and don't think I ovulated after, then
AF 20/01/13
Ovulated 05/02/13
BFP 18/02/13
MC 04/03/13

wondering when to start testing and really not wanting to miss it!!

Thank you x

SaggyOldClothCatpuss Wed 13-Mar-13 14:31:50

No idea. We just started DTD as soon as possible, every other day.

GardenWorm Wed 13-Mar-13 14:34:35

Ooh Fertile Friday is fast approaching - I did some decorating yesterday so that's nesting right?! Ha ha! Heading for a splat!

Re OPK's I've used Clear Blue on first wee and Internet cheapies later in the day around 5pm - both registered something ;o)

See ya Friday peeps - be there, be preggers!

POSIFRICKINTIVITY and then some grin

Bakingtins Wed 13-Mar-13 14:44:54

Hi everyone. I'll have a bit of your posifrickingtivity, if I may?

Had a really good chat with DH yesterday and we've decided to take up the offer of a private recurrent miscarriage investigation appointment tomorrow. We're both unsure at the moment if we will TTC again but I'm clear that I need to have investigated the possibilities before we give up hope. I think you have to be at least 6 weeks post MC for some of the tests but we can at least get the ball rolling. I don't have the time or the inclination to do another 6-12m TTC, MC again and then the NHS will help us when I'll be nearly 40. They're bound to say then it's my age and they can't help.

Hope to see lots more BFPs on this thread. Good luck to you all...

SaggyOldClothCatpuss Wed 13-Mar-13 14:51:00

Good to see you BakingTins.

alyant79 Wed 13-Mar-13 15:23:36

bakingtins glad you found us here again.
The appointment tomorrow sounds like a positive thing to do. At the very least it would be nice to have some answers. I really really hope that you find them helpful.

So jmf the sperm meets egg plan is, in summary, have sex and lots of it.
sounds reasonable grin
might just try it wink

Zeuxippe Wed 13-Mar-13 15:39:26

Hi I'm doing smep too! It promises 40% conception rate post mc

Good luck with the tests baking

MrsSpencerReid Wed 13-Mar-13 16:15:58

Found you smile be back later

icklemssunshine1 Wed 13-Mar-13 16:16:59

2 weeks today since ERPC, just did ovulation test & got 2 equal lines. Now just got to decide whether to DTD or wait til I have AF. Thought I wanted to conceive straight away but now it's happening I'm worried about getting pregnant (well not that, but miscarrying again). Sound nuts don't I?!!!

icklemssunshine1 Wed 13-Mar-13 16:18:44

& can I add to list?

1 DD 1 MMC TTC Cycle 0

IBelieveInPink Wed 13-Mar-13 16:21:11

Icklems, I was exactly the same. I tried waiting longer after 1 mc, and didn't wait at all after 2nd mc. I was still terrified when I found out last week I am pg. I don't think that will ever change, now you have been through it, sadly the fear will always be there.

What I mean is, don't let the fear hold you back. If there are other practical reasons why you feel you shouldnt, or you are too sad at the moment, then wait. But if it is just being scared, that may be around for a while unfortunately, so go for it.

Hope that helps. Reading it back I'm not sure if it does, but my brain is a bit like cake at the moment so can't think how to say it better! smile

WillSantaComeAgain Wed 13-Mar-13 16:22:31

Hello woot - i'm not sure whether the OPKs will work this cycle - as with saggy, we just started DTD and have managed every other day since, in the hope that's enough. Will do the full on CBFM after AF arrives for DC3 (sorry, forgot the posifrickitivity there, obviously AF is NOT going to get me as I shall be pg on this cycle --in fact I probably already am pg--)

Hello baking - I agree, I think the appt will help you. After all, whatever they find, then it will allow you to make a fully informed decision whether to try again knowing where you stand. I hope its not too much of a drawn out process though.

Do you think you can ov over multiple days (multiple eggs?) - usually I can tell I'm ov by my horniness quotient, which often manifests itself in having inappropriate thoughts about male colleagues/friends blush (note: I am a happily married woman and would never dream of cheating). I found myself gazing at a male colleagues eyelashes today. They're soooooo beautiful. I wanted to reach out and touch them. This is not normal behaviour.

WillSantaComeAgain Wed 13-Mar-13 16:24:29

Alyant79 1 DD 1MC - TTC cycle 0 (next week)
Bodicea: 0DC, 2MC, cycle 3 post erpc - BFP
Booty: 0DC, 1MC (oct12), TTC cycle 3 - poas 15/03/12 eek
BumpKitty: 1 DD 1MC - TTC cycle 3 - BFP
Camomile 0DC, 1MC, TTC cycle 0
Fod: 1DS 1DD 1MC TTC 0 cycle
Ickle:1 DD 1 MMC TTC Cycle 0
Janie: 0DC, 1MC (oct12), TTC cycle 3 - poas 15/03/12 eek
JBrd: 1 DS, 1 MC, cycle 1, AF/BFP due March 15/16 (according to my calculations) or March 12
jmf294: 1DS, 1DD, 1MC, TTC Cycle 2 post MC
Lucky13: 1DS 2MC, TTC cycle 5 post MC
MrsSpencerReid 1DS 1MC cycle 0
Mummytothearkbuilder 1DS 1MC TTC cycle 0
SaggyOldClothCatpuss 1DS 1DD 1MC -TTC cycle 1 POAS March 29
Santa 1 DC 2 MCs TTC cycle 0 (i.e. before first AF after ERPC)
Shellshock7 2MCs 1 DS - TTC cycle 3 - BFP
SpanishLady: 1 DS, 1MC, TTC Cycle 0 - BFP (before first AF post MC)
Woot: 2MC TTC cycle 0 {???}
Zeu 1DD 1mc cycle 1 bfp due 11th April

icklemssunshine1 Wed 13-Mar-13 16:25:54

Perfect reply Ibelieve. It is just fear. Physically I'm good, no more bleeding & actually this last week I've felt very positive. I'm just plain scared & I know it seems irrational but I'm scared my fear will have a psychological effect on any future developing baby. Told you I found nuts!! DH always says I stress to much & over analyse. Just need to chill out dont I? Got until 7pm when DD goes to bed to decide whether to DTD - very romantic & spontaneous aren't I?!! smile

SpanishLady Wed 13-Mar-13 16:27:52

I agree with Ibelieve - lets face it you are likely to feel anxious when pregnant again anyway - I didnt know I was ovulating (in fact thought I already had and so was 'safe') when I dtd after my MC and now Im pregnant again I always have this nagging fear at the back of my mind that I try to ignore that its going to happen again - bet I'd feel like that even if this was months after my MC - now I have experienced it is always present ):

If I lose this one I do wonder if two losses in such quick sucession would impact me greater then if I had had a break between the pregnancies but then I think the 'stress' of waiting to get pregnant again only to lose it woudl be a different blow - either way you look at it there are downsides.

whats your gut feeling?

SpanishLady Wed 13-Mar-13 16:32:52

cross posts sorry!

re stress - I certainly dont want to downplay stress and its impact on pregnancy but the way I see it there must be people out there who are pregnant and under enormous stress and still carry to full term - what about pregnant drug addicts, pregnant women in developing countries who walk miles for water etc all examples of what we would consider less them optimum scenarios for pregnancy but they still have babies - if stress was such a factor then surely to goodness there would be alot more pregnancies failing as we all have stress in one way or another.

long way to say please dont fear your very understandable anxiety is going to impact a pregnancy - I wish I could switch of mine!

icklemssunshine1 Wed 13-Mar-13 16:36:23

Thanks for the reply & words of wisdom. It's funny how we can give the advice but never take our own!

Congratulations on your pregnancy & here's wishing you all the love & luck in the world for a healthy, happy little bean smile

JBrd Wed 13-Mar-13 16:37:39

icklem I also agree with IBelieve and Spanish - I think you'll be anxious in any case when you get pg next time! I know that that's the case for me. My EPRC was in January, and I am currently waiting for AF - there is a chance I could be pg now, and as much as I want it, at the same time it scares the hell out of me.
The sad truth is that once you've experienced the heartbreak of a mc, I don't think that you'll ever be able to relax and enjoy being pregnant, because you know what can happen...

But if you feel physically up for it, I'd say, take the plunge!
Good luck

alyant79 Wed 13-Mar-13 17:13:54

I agree, think you'll be scared no matter what.
i can't even dtd yet, but the thought of getting a bfp scares me. I imagine being very excited but horribly scared and nervous at the same time. And sort of feeling a little bit sick from the conflicting emotions.

I reckon that I might get even worse if I left it longer.
Which is why the thought of getting a bfn scares me too. Which is why I keep reminding myself again and again that it's the most likely scenario since I'll be away all next week and i'm sure you are all sick of reading it too since i've written this here so many times

Thunderbuns Wed 13-Mar-13 17:29:19

Quick question- Does anyone know if it's ok to take folic acid and levithyroxine together? Just started on the latter for hypothyroidism and need the drugs to get working ASAP!

Thunderbuns Wed 13-Mar-13 17:31:37

I mean levothyroxine!

farmerwife Wed 13-Mar-13 17:57:43

I was pointed to you and so glad I was. Hope its ok to join you all.

We have had 3 mc and 1 ectopic over last few years and now daring to ttc again. Today 4 days late but test negative and feeling neurotic as usual!!!! Nice to find a place to share!

GinAndSlimlinePlease Wed 13-Mar-13 18:07:24

Can I join? Am very nervous smile

ttc 2 years.
endo and low amh
referred for ivf 25 jan
bfp (natural) 29 jan
bleeding from 30 jan
6 week heartbeat 11 Feb
m/c confirmed 15 Feb sad sad sad

Today - first day of no bleeding, finally.

so I'm just starting to think about ttc again. I'm not going to hang around, no waiting for first period malarkey.

If nothing happens, ivf in a few months.

That's me <waves>

(ps I'm really nervous about waiting years to get pregnant again and then losing another baby. I think I need a serious talking to!)

IBelieveInPink Wed 13-Mar-13 18:36:41

Hi farmer and gin.
Nice to meet you both, although shitty circumstances.

Farmer- have you ha any investigations into causes?

Gin- if it helps, 6 months after mc are supposed to be super fertile. I hope your wait for your next BFP is not so long this time.

MrsSpencerReid Wed 13-Mar-13 18:55:36

Thunder I do, you're not supposed to take the thyroxine too close to having milk/yog cos calcium can slow absorption, so I would take it as soon as you wake up then if you shower/get up etc by the time you have breakfast it should be ok, I think I was told 30min gap. Hope you notice a differencesmile hello to all the newcomers and sorry you had to join us!
I am cd19 now, not even a faint line on the opk and I'm a 28day cycle girl, even when I stopped the pill I went straight into 28d cycle hmm we've already dtd more in the last week than we did in the last 6 months!! We can't keep this up much longer!!

farmerwife Wed 13-Mar-13 19:13:42

Thanks for the welcome.

Gin - I hope you get some better luck soon - its horrible!

Ibelieve - Yes I have had tests done - had to wait to fourth cos they wouldn't count the ectopic. I have an inverted chromosone - not treatable. I have 75% chance of mc in every pregnancy which is pretty crappy odds i know. The ectopic was just bad luck apparently.

Thunderbuns Wed 13-Mar-13 19:21:16

Thank you mrs. Yeah I take it first thing, but also take my folic then too- id that ok do you know?

IBelieveInPink Wed 13-Mar-13 19:22:33

Oh farmer. Wow. Well, the way I look at it is they say less than 25% chance of mc usually, and yet all of us are here. So that 25% must happen quite often and therefore your good one may come along just as often. I have everything crossed for you smile

(did that make sense? Brain still like cake!)

SaggyOldClothCatpuss Wed 13-Mar-13 19:35:23

<<waves at Farmer>> glad you came over here. You'll like it. They're ^^ lovely.

ChocolateCremeEggBag Wed 13-Mar-13 19:57:39

Wow late to the party again but found you all and loving the new Fred title!

Can someone please add me to the list as stupid iPad not playing ball tonight.

ChocolateCremeEggBag 1DS, MC in Dec, BFP WILL be here 10April (oh yes!)

Hello farmergirl, G&T & mrs Howard - sorry that you are here but lovely to have you.

Now should we be thinking of new names? Maybe with a Friday theme?

shellshock7 Wed 13-Mar-13 20:11:37

Hi farmer and gin welcome but sorry to find you of luck for quick BFPs smile

PG after MC is just tough....I hated every scan with DS worked myself up into a stressed/crying mess for a coupla days before each one and worried abt every single little twinge...and I had PGP ha ha BUT posifrickintivity at the end of it all I got my DS and he was worth all the heartache and this baby...and your babies...will be too smile

MrsSpencerReid Wed 13-Mar-13 20:18:16

Thunder it's what I do and never been told its a prob and I have consultant led care so he should know! And is totally amazing and thorough in every other possible way grin

BumpKitty Wed 13-Mar-13 21:10:33

Hi all, just found you again and there's 3 pages to catch up on!

jmf I did sperm meets egg and it worked for us smile though actually we did 6 days in a row dtd instead of 3 shock it very nearly finished DH off smile

spanish yy re time going slowly, I was sat in a meeting today thinking, 'I wonder what day I am at now', quick calculation 5+3, 'oh so one day further on than yesterday then' confused grin

I've been pretty stressed after a calm start, I kept having stretchy pains on my left hand side and convinced myself it was an ectopic pg. I also have a horrendous stomach bug so keep having stomach cramps and I read that that can be a sign of ectopic pg too. But... my DD has this awful virus that is going round and I have been changing very sloppy nappies so more likely to have caught something from her, and the side pains have gone now.

I'm off on holiday next week so have had to tell the friends we are going with - feels a bit odd but they would have guessed anyway with the no drinking, no spa, no water slides etc etc!

congrats lucky and welcome newbies smile

and good luck friday poasers grin

SaggyOldClothCatpuss Wed 13-Mar-13 21:18:59

Bump maybe you ought to get checked out just in case. The last thing you want is an ectopic.

alyant79 Wed 13-Mar-13 21:49:51

Oooh some tears tonight. A good friend has just found out she's having a girl. I was meant to be only a few weeks behind so should have been having that scan myself soon. Instead I might get to poas. Boo sad
I feel like a horrible person that I can't just be happy for her.

Sorry for the self-indulgence sad

BirdsDoIt Wed 13-Mar-13 21:51:05

Hello, can I join? Was on the October bus until this Monday when we went into epu because I'd had three days of light bleeding over the weekend. I should have been 10 or 11 weeks pregnant (got BFP about 7 weeks ago) but they dated me at 4/5 weeks and couldn't see a heartbeat - bleeding and cramps still going and although we have another scan on Tuesday to confirm, I'm sure it's a mc. It was my first pregnancy and the last few days have been very sad but with a lot of wonderful RL support, we are determined not to get too discouraged and carry on ttc once it's all over. Would really help I think to have you ladies to chat to.

icklemssunshine1 Wed 13-Mar-13 21:53:01

Well swallowed my fear & DTD (fear about pregnancy, not DTD!!). Read into SMEP but feel exhausted just reading it! Prob could convince DH to do it though - he was v happy after DTD but I think that's as he found a couple of quid under his pillow (not from the tooth fairy, we hide things when DD comes into our bed!!). Anyway DH at work til late tomorrow so that puts tomorrow out, so I'm hoping for some fertile Friday luck!!

icklemssunshine1 Wed 13-Mar-13 21:58:02

Hi Birds, I was on the Sept bus. Sorry for your loss. Been 3 weeks since my MMC & it's been a tough time, especially when I went through the hormonal crash, I really had some dark days then but now feel quite positive & looking to the future. The ladies on here are fab & will cheer you up. You sound quite positive but remember its okay to grieve, cry & scream too.

fod27 Wed 13-Mar-13 21:59:11

Hey newbies!!!! We are all here to support you......,,guys...... Where's the posifrickintivity??

PMA, I think we should enjoy ttc, enjoy our pregnancies and accept the fact that there is sod all we can do about nature, it's out of our hands now ladies sooooo let's embrace the positive let go of the negative, look to the future and say Fuck You Mother Nature! You have already caused me and my family enough pain, I will not let you define me or rule my life orang longer!!!! It's onwards and upwards from here girls!!!!!

The above was said with love by the intention is not to belittle our grief or atrocious experiences...just to inspire, uplift and motivate....xxxxxxxx

SaggyOldClothCatpuss Wed 13-Mar-13 22:09:12

Oh I'm definitely enjoying TTC! Its the best 5 minutes of the day!

BirdsDoIt Wed 13-Mar-13 22:21:54

Thanks mssunshine I was doing a lot of weeping on the sofa yesterday and the day before, and today feeling much better (though tomorrow may be back to the sofa - I'm very sure that part isn't over - and stiff upper lip is too blimmin' exhausting to manage). But I'm going to enjoy the positivity when it comes along too I've decided :-) and the ttc when we get that far...

IBelieveInPink Wed 13-Mar-13 22:32:08

Bump- snap! I have left side achy pains too. Also fretting. Still waiting for my Sunday poa-digi then will perhaps trot off to docs. May help with the begging for an early scan!

Ickle- Lols much at finding a couple of quid! Well done for being brave smile

Fod- bravo for yet another rousing posifrickentivity speech. Have you thought about going into motivational speaking?! smile

Saggy - you and your 5 minutes also make me smile smile

See how much smiling going on here?! Posifrickentivity that's what that is!! tried to write something cruder and spell check auto corrected to posifrickentivity, can you believe my phone has learned that word?!

fod27 Wed 13-Mar-13 22:38:22

Two whole minutes more than me saggy's the teacher in me *pink^ right guys question.... Bleeding has turned into a brownish I still test???..., getting impatient here, also if I do and I get a smiley should I just go for it? Getting dead exited thinking about it....ooooo the anticipation, excitement and naughtiness of it all!!! (Holds in child like screams on Christmas morning!)

SaggyOldClothCatpuss Wed 13-Mar-13 22:43:16

Your bowel does its last downward swoop on the left, random left sided pains could be that.
The ectopic symptoms to watch for are pain on one side, brown spotting, severe constipation and/or wind pains, and pain in the point of the shoulder.
Better to risk looking like a nob and getting checked out early than waiting and losing a tube.
Im sorry if I sound negative, but I had some of these and ignored them. Thankfully, oh the irony I MC.

fod27 Wed 13-Mar-13 22:46:08

Ok....patience ran out.....currently sat next to my ovulation test, no there isn't any pee anywhere hahaa
Also just taken folic acid!!.....

fod27 Wed 13-Mar-13 22:47:05

Omg!! Taking ages ....grrrrr.....come on come on!!!!!

SaggyOldClothCatpuss Wed 13-Mar-13 22:50:08

My OPKs are in the post. I think they will miss the boat this month. Whats wrong with taking folic acid and POAOPK?

MrsSpencerReid Wed 13-Mar-13 23:16:52

How on earth do you manage to dtd every other day?! There isn't enough time in the day when me and OH are in the same place

fod27 Wed 13-Mar-13 23:18:18

So I'm not tempting fate? Or acting like a loon? Lol get yourself down to the pharmacy, tell yourself it's instead of that bottle of wind or new shoes you had your eye on......assuming that they would be on for all of 5 minutes blush

fod27 Wed 13-Mar-13 23:18:38


Bootyboo Thu 14-Mar-13 06:28:33

Haha bottle of wind Fod grin you do make me smile!

A huge hello to all our new ladies - big welcome to you, I hope you don't think we are all too mad grin

Well I'm out sad AF got me today right on cue today the bitch. Luckily it was in the night so nice knickers were safe! Good luck to all my lovely poas buddies tomorrow though! I'm keeping everything crossed for you except my legs wink sorry, need to keep those open grin

Bootyboo Thu 14-Mar-13 06:30:45

Hope all our pregnant ladies are good too - I'm definitely with Saggy in getting anything checked, even just so you worry a little less. Easier said than done though I know thanks

Bootyboo Thu 14-Mar-13 06:32:28

Btw changed to a Friday name as per Choc's suggestion!

BootyBigFatFridayBanger Thu 14-Mar-13 06:38:36

Or thought I did! hmm

Thunderbuns Thu 14-Mar-13 07:15:03

Hello all. I'm sorry to have been so AWOL and then jump in and out barking random questions yesterday. I was running about and posting on the go.

tins good to see you. I think it's great you're getting some investigations done.

bump SIX days in a row shock! Very impressed indeed. We just can't manage that kind of action here. I have to be more canny with timings over here. Not that it makes any difference now anyway.

Hi to newbies

Sorry af got you booty. Yep keep em open!

mrs, thank you for the advice

Hi to everyone else x

BootyBigFatFridayBanger Thu 14-Mar-13 08:49:03

Hi Thunder - I'm with you, looked at the sperm meets egg plan & was like wow! that's a lot of DTD l'ing - my hubby would think I was trying to kill him grin I'll maybe try to give it go tho

Just a bit of a sensitive question to anybody that would like to answer - something I keep pondering myself & have googled lots but no real info which is, for those of us who have no dc or mc first time, are you a bit relieved that it means you can actually get pregnant? Obviously mc is terrible and a horrible experience, I just keep thinking to myself that it was an indication that I can get up the duff at least, & that must be a good thing? Unlike some poor ladies who try for ages & not a whisper of a BFP. I also wondered if Drs saw it like that too? Dunno - sorry, it's far too early for this sort of pondering I know smile

Thunderbuns Thu 14-Mar-13 09:02:50

Hi booty, love the name btw!

Yes I felt exactly the same. And actually - and this might sound really weird- when I went to my dating scan, and saw the foetus on the screen, even though the pg had failed and there was no heartbeat I still felt absolutely amazed and full of awe about it all. I just couldn't believe we'd actually conceived before seeing that (despite all the symptoms and poas-ing I did!). Hope that doesn't make me too much of a weirdo. Of course this was all mixed up with further shock, dismay and a big punch of sadness.

BootyBigFatFridayBanger Thu 14-Mar-13 09:12:56

Thanks Thunder grin

I can imagine exactly how you mean - mine was only literally 'real' (for want of a better word) for about 3 hours until I had the HCG test & it was so low it was definitely not a sticky one. But I still have a pic of my 'pregnant' test grin

BirdsDoIt Thu 14-Mar-13 09:14:24

Ha ha booty I know what you mean about the sperm meets egg plan - it's pretty relentless isn't it!! That said, the one month that DH and I managed to dtd almost every other day was the month that I got pregnant even though there wasn't a happy ending.

I feel the same as thunder, along with the horribleness of finding out there was no heartbeat and things had failed quite early, there is also some relief that I have actually been pregnant (something I was never totally convinced about even after 9 positive tests) and hopefully it'll be possible again in future. The doctor who did the internal scan said as she checked them, 'nice ovaries', which made me smile in the midst of everything (she had a strong French accent which made this funny for some reason!) so I have hope!

Thunderbuns Thu 14-Mar-13 09:17:37

Hi bird, yeah I had a 'your ovaries are fine' moment too. Small blessings?!

alyant79 Thu 14-Mar-13 09:21:52

fod what did your ovulation test say? did you get the smiley?

And thanks for the excellent motivation speech. Am feeling up again after my moment of down last night.

thunder and booty I think that's an excellent way to think of it. although i do have a DC, I can appreciate that perspective.

farmer big hugs to you. But as pink said, if the odds can work against us, they can work for you. And (I mean this in a nice way) as has just been pointed out, at least you know you can get pg and you know why they haven't stuck. So now it's just a matter of having the emotional fortitude to keep trying until one sticks. You can do it!

gin apparently after a mc you are at your most fertile ever. So hopefully this is a turning point for you smile

booty shall i bitch-slap AF for you? Done.

JanieLovesCake Thu 14-Mar-13 09:24:30

wows 4 thread pages already! ad i only missed a day!

aw booty i'm so sorry AF got you sad boo

My AF is due today, so if it hasn't arrived by the time i finish work, i'm off to boots to buy a test - how will i manage to save it for fertile friday testing. polishes halo at not having tested yet trying to hold on to some posifrickintivity, one minute i think i have af cramps, then next minute they are obviously pg twinges going slightly crazy here DH actually offered to buy me the test this morning - i'm quite surprised he did, then as he left for work he came in to the bedroom and said 'fingers crossed your period doesn't come'. that's about as enthusiastic as he has got so i was pretty happy!

hi to all the newbies, glad you found us in your time of need, these guys have been great.

BootyBigFatFridayBanger Thu 14-Mar-13 09:30:18

Thanks Aly Treating myself to a massage today because she arrived grin

Thanks as well to all sharing your thoughts & experiences - I was only very early & hadn't really had a chance to get very excited for long so I really sympathise with those finding out later on & seeing the scan etc.

Great re the good ovaries tho!

Anyways - enough pondering & thinking too much - I have an Easter Egg I'm going to eat early smile

alyant79 Thu 14-Mar-13 09:31:41

i completely forgot to welcome you birds
it's horrible and sad, and be prepared for more tears as the hormone crash comes, but you will get happier again I promise

BootyBigFatFridayBanger Thu 14-Mar-13 09:33:33

Good luck Janie!!

Maybeamug Thu 14-Mar-13 09:43:47

I don't know if this is the thread for me. I used to be on the freakout room threads a lot before having dd.

Since then I've had a mmc (twins) at 10 weeks last June/July and another mc in November. Yesterday I got the faintest bfp at 11 dpo.

Am terrified.

I've had some tests for recurrent mc but they need to repeat some bloods due to staff errors and that appt isn't for another 2 weeks.

Gynae said to take aspirin if I got a bfp before results came back but he wasn't anticipating needing to do tests again (and I've heard aspirin may screw up the results).

Has anyone been in this position? And know what I should be pushing to take (if I do get a formal bfp on Monday confused )

JBrd Thu 14-Mar-13 09:56:55

Thunder and Booty I don't fall into that category (I have a DS), I think I can understand how you feel. When I had my first scan for the then suspected mc and no heartbeat was seen, the sonographer asked if I had any other children. On hearing that yes, I have, she (rather callously) said 'Well, at least we know that you can get pregnant.' Which I thought was really insensititve of her, stupid cow. But yes, there might be a grain of truth in it, although it was no consolation at all for me.

Janie I had to muster a huge effort of willpower not to poas this morning. AF is due any day now, and the test was calling to me, I swear. Doesn't help that it sits on the shelf right next to the loo, on eye level.

Had a rather amusing (well, maybe more exasperating) reaction from DH this morning - upon discussing the eye drops that I'm currently taking for an infection, and that they are not antibiotics because the GP didn't want to prescribe antibiotics as there is a chance I might be pregnant - he stopped, looked rather surprised and said 'That's news!'. What does he think we have been doing? I mean there is a chance I might get pregnant each time we dtd atm! I live in this 2ww hell every month - think I need to sit him down and do some explaining. Honestly.

JBrd Thu 14-Mar-13 10:01:24

May Sorry to hear about your mcs, but yay for your bfp!

I'd call your midwife or the consultant to ask about the aspirin - I think you're right, it can screw up blood tests. Maybe they can bring the test forward...?
I'm in a similar position - holding out for a BFP (testing tomorrow), and getting blood tests done, fortunately they are taking them today. I'll also start on aspirin asap I know I'm pg.

However, if you can't get hold of anyone, I don't think that waiting until Monday with the aspirin would make a big difference - if you say that this is when your af is due anyway!

JanieLovesCake Thu 14-Mar-13 10:03:42

jbrd i think our DHs might be mates!! maybe it's because i sit on mumsnet and dr google all the time that i know more about the whole pg malarkey, but i had to remind mine yesterday that today could be Dday (AFday). i had a night out during rape week and had a few too many and had a little chuck up the next morning and he asked me was it morning sickness aww. (i get theee most awful hangovers and normally have a wee chuck the next day if i've had one too many!)

JanieLovesCake Thu 14-Mar-13 10:23:59

oh and i'm so crazy, that if i do get a bfp, i'm going to post it in the old thread too! i was determined to get one in that thread!!

Sapphireday Thu 14-Mar-13 10:48:03

Hi ladies, room for another one? I found out a week ago at 13+4 that I'd had a mmc and had a somewhat traumatic ERPC on Tuesday. I've been feeling completely devastated as I'd been ttc for over three years and had finally conceived after an IUI cycle.

I'm totally with Booty and Thunder that the one positive thing to take from this experience is the fact that I can actually conceive - I had been seriously doubting that this would be the case.

We have an appointment with our infertility consultant tomorrow to get us lined up for more treatment and I'm hoping that this, and the support of you lovely ladies, will help me to look forward with posifrickintivity (genius, whoever came up with the word!).

And, hey-ho, will jump on the dtd bandwagon 'cause you never know! And, who knows, I might just have some fun at the same time wink

SaggyOldClothCatpuss Thu 14-Mar-13 11:16:55

Welcome Sapphire.
I know the feeling of 'thank god I can get pg'. It's been 14 years since the last one. Sadly being ectopic I also had 'what's wrong with me that this happened' 'and 'I ought to be thankful it didn't rupture'. The last of which feels totally WRONG! confused

jmf294 Thu 14-Mar-13 11:24:34

Welcome Sapphire and all the new posters- sorry you have to join this thread.

I had no smiley face today which is good as I'm only day 9 and last cycle ovulated too early. Hoping for a big smile at the weekend!!
I'm doing the sperm meets egg plan and got things under way last night.

Hope you all have a good day!

BootyBigFatFridayBanger Thu 14-Mar-13 11:34:41

Welcome Sapphire & May lovely to have you here, albeit under these circumstances

Bird just casually mentioned the Sperm meets Egg agenda to hubby - result was a look of fear teeheeeee grinhe's gamely said he'll give it a bash though (excuse the pun!). Might be away for work this month during little egg time which is incredibly annoying grrr

SaggyOldClothCatpuss Thu 14-Mar-13 11:51:39

Ive had a look at SMEP. Ill try, but I have to say its hard going! We have done every other day, and mustering the enthusiasm is a bit hard at times! I think my poor fanjo is a bit traumatised from the MC!
Going to do some sexting with DP, maybe get ourselves down the pub and try to spice things up a bit!

BootyBigFatFridayBanger Thu 14-Mar-13 11:58:34

Great idea Saggy! I might try that myself - altho alchy is a bit limited where I live annoyingly hmm

Hope fanjo feels better soon thanks

ChocolateCremeEggBag Thu 14-Mar-13 12:59:12

Hello Sapphire & Maybea - sorry that you are finding yourself here though

Thunder - I am finding weird comfort in the fact that I had a missed MC - which meant it was a problem with the bean, rather than me. By that I mean that my body was trying it's best, but something just went wrong with that egg.
The science of how one cell divides and divides to make a human being amazes me (studied it at school) so not surprising that there are the occasional F*ck ups.

DH is away til saturday - means DS and I are easting toast on the sofa and I am bringing back Twirl on toast as my haute cuisine tonight grin.

He is unfortunately also away at the end of the month when I am due to OV, so will have to try SMEP until the minute he leaves (Steeling myself for early morning DTD to send him on his way)

alyant79 Thu 14-Mar-13 13:22:58

Well I am very impressed by all you SMEP peeps.
The thought fills me with exhaustion. I will blame my 19mo DD for that, although that's probably unfair - oh well I won't tell her.

might mention it to DH and see what he says. should get a camera ready...

sapphire here's hoping that the fertile-after-mc magic works for you

shellshock7 Thu 14-Mar-13 13:28:57

Hi again to the newbies, there are so many of us now! It's nice to share this together but I'm sad that you are here too.

fod I read your PMA posts and am nodding along all the way and then I remember I have (TMI!) constipation (thats a symptom right?!) and everytime I get a belly ache I think it must be MC starting! It's so hard to let the fear go, but I am trying for you honestly grin

pink I'm doing my second digital on Sunday too...fingers crossed for us...I've made my docs appt for 25th hopefuly its to tell good news, not bad smile Am defo asking for a scan at 8 weeks too...if you don't ask you don't get!

Sorry AF got you booty, what a bitch sad Next month is your month smile

Good luck POAS Janie!

JBrd I'm with you on the insensitive cow front...DS is of course a comfort cos he is amaing...but he is no comfort for me re future TTC if that makes sense?

Bad timing choc hope you manage to get it in (if you know what I mean) before he goes smile

So my internet cheapie lines continue to get darker and I'm pretty sure my daily nausea is PG related so that is making me feel good...bloating is in full effect too, pants are too tight by the end of the day and it's straight into PJs when I get home. Just wishing time away really!

Hi ladies and hello to all the lovely newbies - sorry you guys have found yourselves here - you will find lots of support and hugs all round on this thread!!

Me and DH are roughly following the SMEP although he doesn't really know it!! We are dtd every other day and when I get a OPK we will do it everyday until a negative OPK. So since 23rd feb when my bleeding stopped we have dtd every other day and I still have no positive OPK result - I'm worried that in not ovulating???

We dtd on Tuesday but DH is now away so won't be able to dtd until Friday night - hoping the 2 day break rather than 1 day break won't make a difference??

Strange question so please be kind - there is anything I can do to improve / kick start ovulation (other than lose weight) xx

IBelieveInPink Thu 14-Mar-13 14:26:04

Ooh shell you have just saved me from a sneaky poa digi tomorrow! I will wait for Sunday and also p then.
Although, what you say about Internet cheapies concerns me a little. How dark exactly? Does your positive line go as dark as the control line? Mine haven't, although they do appear quicker now, they haven't changed darkness in the last 3 days. I put this down to them being cheap and not having as much ink, but am I wrong? Should I be worried about this? <<panics>>

Thunderbuns Thu 14-Mar-13 14:43:31

shock PINK!

shellshock7 Thu 14-Mar-13 14:52:07

pink my DS is one on sat so I'm waiting till Sun in case it hasn't moved on to 2-3 weeks, I don't want anything to put a cloud over his birthday....I wouldn't be waiting otherwise!! smile

No not as dark as the control line, still watery if that makes sense? But it was very very faint for a few days so don't worry!!!

shellshock7 Thu 14-Mar-13 14:52:40

Ooo and yes to appearing quicker smile

SaggyOldClothCatpuss Thu 14-Mar-13 14:57:12

OPKs need a line as dark as the control line IIRC, HPT needs any kind of line.

Thunderbuns Thu 14-Mar-13 14:59:45

ark I don't know about improving ovulation I'm afraid. What is the grapefruit juice/ pineapple juice that some people talk about for? Also- acupuncture? See- told you I didnt have a clue!

IBelieveInPink Thu 14-Mar-13 15:02:35

Ahh phew! I will stop panicking and stop abusing google then. Mine are stronger but yes to watery, that does make sense. But appearing super quick.
I am also waiting for the same thing. And DH is away until Saturday afternoon, I will not be able to handle a bad result on my own so waiting for Sunday is best. I have 3 digis in the house, but DH has hidden them all from me so I can't use them til he is back!

Thunder, what, what did I do? Eeek! <<ducks to avoid fish which is sure to be thrown any second>>

SaggyOldClothCatpuss Thu 14-Mar-13 15:12:55

REMEMBER THE SYSTEM. <<beady eyed stare>>

SaggyOldClothCatpuss Thu 14-Mar-13 15:13:54

Disclaimer: I have no idea why we cant POAS until friday! blush

SaggyOldClothCatpuss Thu 14-Mar-13 15:17:30

I dont feel like I'll ever get to the point of POAS. This month is taking AAAGES! sad

SaggyOldClothCatpuss Thu 14-Mar-13 15:17:54

And my OPKs still arent here!

JanieLovesCake Thu 14-Mar-13 15:20:36

girls...i have a question....

you know how it's nearly friday and you know how we have the fertile friday poas system.... would i have permission to test tonight? it's already friday in australia?!? grin

Thunderbuns Thu 14-Mar-13 15:20:54

Precisely, saggy. Thank you.

No idea?? Well, the system started because we mapped out March with most of the poasers planning to poas on a Friday. So we not only had a weekly focus but lots of teams going at it it were.

So that was nice and ordered and we all knew where we were and it helped pink (and others?) to stop being a manic poaser every day from 1dpo.

And the trouble is, as well as me clearly having some kind of dictatorship complex it has coincided with a load of bfps. And we are all ok maybe just me superstitious enough to realise that it's partly because of the wonderful system.

Got it?

I don't care when anyone poas, truth be told. But I do quite like shouting and appearing a bit crazy.

And throwing fish about.

SaggyOldClothCatpuss Thu 14-Mar-13 15:24:42

Me too. Sounds like a bloody good system to me. grin

IBelieveInPink Thu 14-Mar-13 15:25:24

I feel I must confess. Since the Friday poas day, it has been 6 days. And I have poas on at least 4 5 of them.
I know I know. The system. But I figured it didn't count after BFP?!

<<prepares to be mobbed by fish>>

Thunderbuns Thu 14-Mar-13 15:27:14

Yeah I think after bfp you're probably fine.

<chucks a can of tuna for good measure>

SaggyOldClothCatpuss Thu 14-Mar-13 15:29:44

When I got PG at christmas, I POAS almost everyday for weeks! I love it! Cant wait to go raid the £ shop for some more!

IBelieveInPink Thu 14-Mar-13 15:35:09

<<voms at smell of tuna>>

Have just realised it is poas day again tomorrow.
How many more bfps will we get this week?
Janie- you can hold out, it is only 1 sleep.

<<wonders about poas again tomorrow just to keep with the system>>

JanieLovesCake Thu 14-Mar-13 15:35:09

oh and is it normally ok to poas at night or is it better to do it first thing in the morning? cripes i'm getting nervous!

JanieLovesCake Thu 14-Mar-13 15:36:06

or what if i poas and don't tell you guys the result til the morning won't be able to sleep either way

Thunderbuns Thu 14-Mar-13 15:38:30

janie, do it with fmu tomorrow. Not just cos of the system but because it's more concentrate and therefore more likely to give you a reliable answer.

IBelieveInPink Thu 14-Mar-13 15:42:06

And because of the system.....

WillSantaComeAgain Thu 14-Mar-13 15:44:07

POAS Rules
<<usurps thunder's dictatorship complex>>

(1) A lady may only POAS on a Friday.
(2) Friday means the day that everyone calls Friday in the time zone where you spent the night. <<glares at Janie>> <<feels bad in case Janie lives in Australia>>
(3) Rule (1) does not apply to POA-OPK-S
(4) Rule (1) does not apply following a BFP because if you want to waste £25 a day POADigiS that's your prerogative <<refuses to admit that's what I'll do>>
(5) Rule (1) does not apply if a lady is POAS in an attempt to get a BFN to prove she can start DTD with intent
(6) Rule (1) does not apply if a lady wants for unknown reason to pee on an actual stick, like a twig or some such, if that lady is unexpectedly caught short whilst tramping in the forest looking for bears.
(7) These rules (including Rule (1)) are subject to the change at any time if the ladies of the Posifrickentivity thread decide on a whim come up with empirical evidence to prove that it is luckier to POAS on any other day of the week
(8) Violators of Rule (1) shall be subject to fish throwing.

By the way, welcome (not that that's quite the right word, but you know what I mean) to all the other ladies who so sadly find themselves here. Its great fun, everyone is lovely and not at all psychotic

GardenWorm Thu 14-Mar-13 15:49:07

<as she takes hold of Janies hand> Come on flower we can do it, only one more sleep!

SaggyOldClothCatpuss Thu 14-Mar-13 15:55:26

Fantastic! Those rules should be C+P onto every subsequent thread! grin

Thunderbuns Thu 14-Mar-13 15:57:31

I love you santa

IBelieveInPink Thu 14-Mar-13 15:59:06

santa I am literally crying with laughter in the middle of the office. There goes my discrete forum use mid work day!

Now, off to hunt for bears....

alyant79 Thu 14-Mar-13 15:59:46

I'm going to break the system. shock
i will poas on monday in the hope of a bfn now that everything is supposedly really really really gone.
But it's ok to ignore fertile friday when going for a bfn, right?
please don't hit me with a fish thunder

also know nothing about ovulation. sorry mummy

SaggyOldClothCatpuss Thu 14-Mar-13 16:01:57

I just read that again. It keeps making me snort like a pig! grin

Thunderbuns Thu 14-Mar-13 16:02:12

Aly aly it's fine! See rule (5) above

SaggyOldClothCatpuss Thu 14-Mar-13 16:03:18

<<Tut>> Alyant read the rules! <<rolls eyes>>

alyant79 Thu 14-Mar-13 16:06:32

oh my, I posted that last post without seeing the rules!!
hahahahaha love it santa
luckily I fall under rule [5] so am not breaking the system afterall. phew wink

As an antipodean currently residing in the land of the freezing cold UK, I support Janie regardless of her citizenship and where she is actually living because I would try and use exactly the same excuse

Thunderbuns Thu 14-Mar-13 16:07:02

<hits saggy with a fish finger for being impatient>

<and then laughs at the hypocrisy>

alyant79 Thu 14-Mar-13 16:08:34

<<clearly suffering from some computer lag here>>

Zeuxippe Thu 14-Mar-13 16:13:08

Wow do you realise there are over 50 posts on this thread since I logged on this morning!? That's impressive posting ladies, well done.

Hello to all newbies. Sorry to hear about your mcs, but you're in the right place here for lots of helpful info and moral support.

Keeping fx for all those due to poas tomorrow!

Afm, we're due to embark on smep this weekend when we've actually booked a hotel and are leaving DD for the first time ever with her grandparents. Eek!! Not DTD since mc...

Maybeamug Thu 14-Mar-13 16:16:13

Do I have to poas tomorrow? I'm scared that the very faint bfp I got yesterday won't be there sad

Thunderbuns Thu 14-Mar-13 16:18:07

Hi maybe. No you don't have to of course. You probably now fall into category covered by rule 4) seeing as you've already had your bfp....

alyant79 Thu 14-Mar-13 16:18:17

WOW Zeu that is dedication to the cause.

I keep promising myself that I won't log in again at least until I get home from work, and then a few minutes later find myself sneaking back... naughty blush.
won't happen again.

shellshock7 Thu 14-Mar-13 16:20:49

Oh my god, Ive just PIMP (peed in my pants) at the rules grin

pink I've POAS everyday sometimes twice since my BFP too blush

WillSantaComeAgain Thu 14-Mar-13 16:32:36

I'm glad I've made some people smile today. The colleagues I work for with think I'm an arse of the highest order as I've spent the day being difficult, obstructive and generally, well, an arse. But only because they're being a complete bunch of cunts a tad demanding.

I've got to wait till next Friday to POAS. It will be 31 days since ERPC, so perhaps a tad early, but I'm sticking to the system? I'm dreading AF coming to get me. Even though it would mean that I can officially start TTC again. (If you take the official advice seriously).

Just laughed out loud at the rules - I'm loving them (good job I am on my own in the office!!)

Saggy - I'm with you - I feel like POAS on fertile Friday is AGES away for me too! X

WillSantaComeAgain Thu 14-Mar-13 16:33:44

<<waves at aly>> We know you're there. Now get on with some work.

Thunderbuns Thu 14-Mar-13 16:40:45

Oh yeah- there she is! Hi aly!

I would have been due to poas next Friday (22nd) but I have given up all hope and probably won't bother.

WillSantaComeAgain Thu 14-Mar-13 16:44:37

Oh Thunder. <<throws posifrickentivity at thunder>> Is there a particular cause for the loss of hope? Its not all over till AF the fat bitch starts singing.

Bakingtins Thu 14-Mar-13 16:47:30

Loving the rules.

I'm feeling a bit better after seeing the consultant today, she was very encouraging. She's suggested a whole battery of tests, and am hoping the GP will do some of the basic ones for me otherwise we'll be bankrupt and unable to afford another baby when I see her on Tuesday. She seemed to think it was quite possible from my history that I have APL antibodies or a clotting problem and if that's the case I can be helped with aspirin/heparin. The flip side is that in 50% of cases they investigate they'll find no problem at all, which on one hand means you have a good chance of a successful pregnancy, but on the other means there is nothing that can swing the odds in your favour. I'm not sure if I want to try again in that situation. I was quite surprised that she said to continue TTC at the moment whilst we wait for the tests (I have to wait until midcycle 2 for a scan and some of the blood tests, then up to 6 weeks for results) and if I did get pregnant she'll scan me regularly and give me high dose folic acid, low dose aspirin and progesterone supplements as empirical treatments to support the pregnancy.

So whilst I'm still a bit low on the old posifrickingtivity, I guess I am lurking with intent again. If I promise to follow the rules, does that guarantee a successful outcome?

JBrd Thu 14-Mar-13 17:09:55

Wow, I go away for a couple of hours, and the thread explodes! Liking the rules grin

Glad to see I'm not the only crazy person who keeps poas after gettig a bfp - when I had mine back in November, I just kept doing it for about 2 weeks.

It's an addiction!

Right, need to go and get DS up from his nap, otherwise he won't go to sleep later.
What time are people testing tomorrow! My alarm goes off at 6am for taking my temp, then at 6.30am to actually get up. Will see if I can drag myself out of bed for the earlier one...

fod27 Thu 14-Mar-13 17:43:31

Aly there was no smiley sad but I'm doing another shortly eeekkkkk Saphire I have my own language hahaaa frickin is in just about every word (helps with the swearing ;)) shell I think we all have our own way of dealing with it, it's all very individual...all week at work people have been askin if I'm ok or avoiding me in case I cry, then when u don't they almost seem disappointed! You just can't win, Unfortanetly I don't have the luxury of letting it overwhelm me, my children already know far too much about the cruelty of mother nature without watching/ hearing me sobbing...I've got to focus on the children that are here now and our life together

But I totally understand it ripped my heart out and my partner doesn't have any children so it's destroyed of us has to be the strong one

Ten out of ten for effort tho huni....I'm routing for you all xxx

SaggyOldClothCatpuss Thu 14-Mar-13 18:17:37

You know what? Sometimes I think this thread is torture because it reminds me of the MC and the chances of it happening again, and I feel like hiding it, but you lot are so lovely and supportive and funny I just can't keep away. I love you all! {{hugs}}

Ah bless saggy - I feel the same - I wouldn't have got through things without the support on here.

I need your help again ladies - I have just got 2 lines on my opk but the second line is lighter than the first - what does this mean?? DH is away tonight (he could come home if it means I am ovulating but it would be late as he is at an away match)

Please help - I need your wisdom!! I don't want to miss the boat - this is cd28 - last time we DTD was Tuesday xxx

JanieLovesCake Thu 14-Mar-13 18:37:46

haaahahahahahahahhaaaaaaa i lolled my face off reading the rules!! Santa i hope you're a writer, or a comedian!!! sorry i broke 'em...but hope you can forgive me...

got home and DH had bought me a test (what a sweetie!) and he made me do it....please don't throw fish at me....ya know raw fish is off limits for pregnant ladies! yup...there was a faint line eeeeek! trying not to get too excited, defo still going for fertile friday tomorrow to do it first thing aaaghhhh!!

Janie that is fab news!! Congrats x

icklemssunshine1 Thu 14-Mar-13 18:50:23

Hi all, sorry to spoil the positivity here but bit worried & need advice. Just to recap (sorry if sound like stuck record) had ERPC 2 wks ago y'day. Had slowed down to light spotting & had 2 days no bleed so DTD last night. 1 hour ago when I went to toilet I had fresh blood when I wiped (sorry for tmi) & now spotting red. Freaking out. Can't be AF so soon surely? If its still ERPC then has I comprised anything DTD? Help!!

Lucky13ForBaby Thu 14-Mar-13 18:57:47

I went against the system and got bfp on wednesday Am fretting now all is going to go wrong for me. I have poas every day since and can't see it getting darker. Can't cope with another MC or chemical sad

jmf294 Thu 14-Mar-13 19:13:02

Icklemssunshine- the bleeding could be still from the post ercp bleed or it could be the ERPC slightly bruised your cervix and DTD made it bleed. I am sure it will settle.
Lucky13- what about going a digital test- fingers crossed.

I love love the rules- brilliant!!
I would be due to test on a tues/ wed so do I have to wait until the Friday afterwards or the Friday before?
I'm so bad at waiting and last time spent a fortune on those awful clearblue digitals.

Thunderbuns Thu 14-Mar-13 19:13:51

mummy, if the test line is lighter than the control that means you're not having your surge. It has to be as dark or darker to show the lh surge.

ickle I got than on and off for weejs after ERPC. I waited til the main bleeding was done and then dtd. I spotted and had little clots occasionally for a number of weeks. I reckon you're fine.

great news janie

jmf294 Thu 14-Mar-13 19:15:14

Mummy to ark- for a positive opk the line has to be at least as dark as the test line.
Congrats on the line Janie.

icklemssunshine1 Thu 14-Mar-13 19:24:23

Thanks everyone! I have got the ward number but think I'll hold off giving them a ring & see what it's like this time tomorrow. Just fearing if there is some retained tissue & by some miracle I got BFP after 1 attempt (& believe me this happened in Dec. DD was continually ill, rarely slept & was in our bed all the time, then I was ill & DH was ill. DTD once & got BFP, unfortunately it wasn't meant to be sad ) then my womb won't be the perfect host for a little bean.

Anyway enough of my mood, good luck everyone for fertile Friday! Will be looking forward to hearing news of all those lines!!

Bakingtins Thu 14-Mar-13 19:24:26

Congratulations Janie!

BootyBigFatFridayBanger Thu 14-Mar-13 19:25:45

Janie!!! Well done girl!!!

Thunderbuns Thu 14-Mar-13 19:28:46

ickle I think that's why some folk felt pleased to have the af before ttc again as it was like a big clear out as it were.

Personally I reckon that you'll be ok, I think spotting on and off is really normal after ERPC. I did just what you have done. Didn't get pg obviously but still tried and had spotting on and off, then a mini period, then a proper one a couple of weeks later.

Hope this helps x

Lucky13ForBaby Thu 14-Mar-13 19:30:27

Congrats janie. I to will yest 2mor and hope for a better line. Maybe a wet fish would snap me out of this consuming anxiety!

JanieLovesCake Thu 14-Mar-13 19:36:33

thanks girls! i won't believe it until the morning when / if i see a better line and then i might do some star jumps! i hear ya lucky but i'm holding your hand all the way and i'm making sure you hold mine! garden i'm wishing you all the luck in the world for tomorrow. was there someone else poas-ing tomorrow as well? xx

Thunderbuns Thu 14-Mar-13 19:36:48

You want a slap, 13? I can do that!

Your anxiety is very understandable, but yes poas tomorrow as per the system and you might be very pleased!

BirdsDoIt Thu 14-Mar-13 19:48:21

Ha ha, I love the Rules! Thanks santa! Friday testing sounds like the way forward - otherwise likely to hit bankruptcy before pregnancy. I have such an irregular cycle that after 28 days I can never figure out when to poas so just do it over and over and over again...though I feel like getting back to poas stage is still some way off for me at the moment. Fingers crossed for everyone peeing tomorrow am though! :-)

IBelieveInPink Thu 14-Mar-13 19:49:45

Aww Janie! Fab news! although completely against the system
Eek we are on a proper roll here aren't we! This must be a lucky group we have going, bodes well for the rest of our ladies who will surely not be far behind.

Either that or we have some sort of spring phenomenon going on, baby rabbits, baby chicks, baby lambs =more babys? Perhaps?

Thanks ladies - as ever your wisdom and knowledge is ace! Xx

Lieslvontrapp Thu 14-Mar-13 20:05:19

Loving the rules! Congrats on the bfp janie good look to everyone else who is poas tomorrow. Mentioned smep to oh and we're going to give it a go starting from wkend. Dtd here we come!

alyant79 Thu 14-Mar-13 20:18:53

Oh janie wooo! Fx it sticks.

ickle I reckon you'll be fine. Try not to stress. If you're really worried then maybe don't dtd again for another day or so to see if bleeding stops again.
I think main reason they say not to have sex while still bleeding is because of infection risk from open cervix, but I think it closes up very quickly (think days, not weeks).

I'm getting very excited by all these bfps. Must be spring. Is there a goddess of spring I can pray to?

alyant79 Thu 14-Mar-13 20:21:39

Oh and I mentioned smep to dh and the look he gave me was NOT scared. I do believe there was a glint in his eye.
Bleeding from my second ERPC is much less than from the actual mc, so maybe not long now... wink

Floweroct Thu 14-Mar-13 20:46:20

Congrats janie!

Loving the rules it's going to be two weeks on Friday til ill be allowed cos testing tomorrow at 2dpo is not a good idea

We seem to have been doing smep this time dh was well and truly not up (excuse the pun) for it yesterday but he battled on was hoping for tonight again but not sure he'll cope bless him!

SaggyOldClothCatpuss Thu 14-Mar-13 20:54:29

I mentioned SMEP to DP. He didn't look impressed. He's an old man now you know! When I said this he said it wasn't that he couldnt, more a case of whether he wanted to! confused that's nice isn't it! shock

fod27 Thu 14-Mar-13 21:10:00

janie that's brilliant!!!! You go girl!!! ;)
saggy sounds like a typical bloke to me hahaaa....this is how it goes in our house "so errr we sexin tonight then or what?" "Really???do I have to? I'm knackered babe and Ive just had a shower" so I flash my boobs! His response; " duck...:you can't do sexy! Funny you can do" wicked!

shellshock7 Thu 14-Mar-13 21:29:13

Congrats janie that's amazing news grin Good luck to you and lucky tomorrow smile

thunder I need a fish slap hmm convinced myself its going wrong with no signs really at all aaagggghhhh I need some posifrickintivity

JanieLovesCake Thu 14-Mar-13 21:29:48

Eek thanks guys smile although I won't say the BFP word til tomorrow as I'm convinced I was seeing things in the faint line...still got my fingers crossed for tomorrow!

We kinda did the smeg thang...more a case of rape week with a day off after a few days, dtd everyday except one over that week leading up to ov. Hope it's worked!!!

Off you go and lure those men into bed. Just playing with their nethers seems to do the trick if they say they're sleepy (or pretending to be asleep like DH did a few nights) mwahahahaha we get our wicked way some how! wink

Lucky13ForBaby Thu 14-Mar-13 21:46:45

Fx for everyone testing 2mor. How far along are you pregnant ladies? I have no symptoms which really concerns me. Where's that positivinfrigity at!

IBelieveInPink Thu 14-Mar-13 21:50:28

Shell- I can't do fish but here is a hand to hold. I keep swinging between 'omg check out all my symptoms' to 'where did they all go? It must be all over'
I have googled everything I can possibly think of.
I have googled statistics
I have googled specific symptoms.
I have also googled how early you can pay for a scan.

None of this is going to help. We just need to wait to do tests I'm afraid (have found said tests - DH is crap at hiding)

I hate the waiting though!

Also made the mistake of watching one born. That programme is the devils work!!!

BumpKitty Thu 14-Mar-13 21:51:50

Ooh janie I'm so excited! My DD was a feint line and she is very much real grin

I haven't poas again, am I strange?

saggy thanks for the tips, the left hand side pain has gone now but if it starts up again I will go and get checked out.

I'm burying my head in the sand a bit till I can have an 8 week scan - don't even want to tell my GP till after that, that's ok isn't it?

And santa you are the most hilarious officious control freak I've ever had the pleasure to be on a thread with smile and thunder you are a very close second grin

shellshock7 Thu 14-Mar-13 21:53:53

I know pink you are right, it's so hard tho...can't wait to test again in the morning and (hopefully) see that strong line again. Hope you're ok smile

Im watching OBEM now, we must be stupid or crazy confused

IBelieveInPink Thu 14-Mar-13 21:58:22

Shell - get tissues, quick!!! I needed half a box!

Hey bump- how are you doing? Good to hear pain gone smile
I can't remember if you have already said- have you already got a scan sorted? Or will it be a case of going and begging? In really worried that I won't get one (if I get that far)

BumpKitty Thu 14-Mar-13 22:06:08

I'm just going to pay I think, if I do have any more suspect pains I will go and ask GP or call epu but if not I will just book a private one I asked last time if I would get an early scan and was told not if there was no reason, I'm a bit dubious about a private one though as you don't really know who is scanning you and I'm terrified of having a scan generally due to the build up of expectation etc.

farmerwife Thu 14-Mar-13 22:46:23

Aly and pink thank you for all the encouragement - you are so right about statistics not meaning everything and knowing I can at least get pregnant - its a start!

AF came today - ever onward though!

Decided I might get ovulation test thingy - never done that - any recommendations?

ChocolateCremeEggBag Thu 14-Mar-13 23:29:06

Hi Farmerwife - I have a Clearblue Fertility monitor, pretty ££ new but you can get them for about £45 on eBay and sell on afterwards. The sticks are also ££ though at about £20 per 20 (which will last 2 cycles). But it got me a BFP first time when we tried for DS and hoping 3rd time lucky this time. I am also a massive control freak and POAS addict so this keeps me saneish

CB digi's and cheapy opks's will give you the ov peak days and you can follow the SMEP plan and go for a sex festival.

SaggyOldClothCatpuss Thu 14-Mar-13 23:33:37

Janie just laughed out loud at "the smeg thang"! grin
Fingers crossed for everyone tomorrow. <<sends out love and posifrickintivity>>

JBrd Fri 15-Mar-13 00:03:34

Congrats, Janie! However, you should be fish slapped for testing early grin But feel free to join us all again tomorrow.

Re faint vs strong lines on the OPKs - I never get a line that's as strong or stronger than the control line, so I go with the faint one. Last time, I had a faint line appearing one evening, tested again next day around lunch time, when it was stronger, but still not as strong as the control one. Then tested again in the evening, no line at all. It's like that every time, blink and you miss it.
But in spite of the faintness, I'm glad that I did the OPK - my CBFM ate 20(!) sticks this month, but all I ever got was a 'high' reading. OK, so it was the first time I used it, but it better not do that again, I can't afford it.

Good luck to the fellow testers! Off to bed now...

SaggyOldClothCatpuss Fri 15-Mar-13 00:17:39

Its after midnight now. Anyone who cant wait wont get hit with a fish! grin

GardenWorm Fri 15-Mar-13 06:08:31

Pah. Negafrickintive. Clearly in my delusional state I am erring towards false hope negative or a defective Internet cheapie...I will persevere until AF gets me in her clutches!

Good luck ladies!

Janie Whoop Whoop! Sounds like a posifrickintive to me! Yay!

Zeuxippe Fri 15-Mar-13 06:31:34

Better luck next time garden. How many dpo are you?

Good luck to everyone else testing this morning!!

Lucky13ForBaby Fri 15-Mar-13 06:32:28

Lol saggy. Boo Garden, are you eat testing? I'm getting a bfp but line still no darker. May get me a digital today. They scare me and remind me of the MC'S so hadn't gone down that route yet. Good luck everyone else testing and all please stick around and hold my hands. Do any of the pregnant ladies have no symptems?

Zeuxippe Fri 15-Mar-13 06:34:56

Congrats lucky!! A line is a line.

Zeuxippe Fri 15-Mar-13 06:39:30

PS over 120 more posts than this time yesterday!!

jmf294 Fri 15-Mar-13 06:50:50

Just to wish all ladies testing today lots of luck- bring on the BFPs!!

JBrd Fri 15-Mar-13 06:51:39

OMG, it's a BFP for me!!!! Both on the FR and the cheapie test shocksmile
<<sits down in disbelieving shock>>

Zeuxippe Fri 15-Mar-13 06:55:45

Congrats jbrd, fantastic news!!

Lucky13ForBaby Fri 15-Mar-13 06:58:00

Congrats jibed. How many days past ovulation? Fab smile

Maybeamug Fri 15-Mar-13 07:06:01

congratulations jbird (and anyone I might have missed). Am def too scared to poas this morning...

Am now wallowing in nostalgia over fish slapping and the various rules. Lovely

IBelieveInPink Fri 15-Mar-13 07:06:13

Whoop jbrd! Yay! (you sounded like Simon Cowell btw!)

Garden- ah balls. How far dpo? Still too early?

shellshock7 Fri 15-Mar-13 07:14:46

Sorry garden hope it is just too early.

Congrats jbrd and lucky that's brilliant news grin lucky my line was faint for a few days but is dark now at 5+2.

So I've woke up an hour before I need to and am still pretty convinced its not good...just cos I didn't really feel sick yesterday and I'm getting pains from the constipation I think it must be cos the last one went now ish time I'm on max stress levels, but it's rubbish, hopefully get passed this milestone and the posifrickintivity will return smile

Good luck POASers grin

Bakingtins Fri 15-Mar-13 07:16:18

Congratulations JBrd and lucky!

Garden, we will relax the Friday rule, you can test again at the weekend. It's not over yet.

Bakingtins Fri 15-Mar-13 07:17:32

Shell - stay positive, hope the weekend sees you safely past your milestone.

shellshock7 Fri 15-Mar-13 07:18:07

pink if I go by ovulation date not LMP I'm 19DPO thinking abt doin the digital to try and shake this should say 2-3 right?

How you coping today? smile

shellshock7 Fri 15-Mar-13 07:23:03

Thanks tins just gotta ride it out, what will be will be right....was good to read your's amazing how quickly we turn to looking for positive actions to keep us going, I'm pleased for you and hope you get some good answers smile

Congrats to the BFPs that's such amazing news!!! X

IBelieveInPink Fri 15-Mar-13 07:28:22

Yeah shoul be 2-3. disclaimer in my panic last time when things were going wrong, it turns out the 2-3 section is only 74%accurate. So dont be too terrified i it doesn't look right at 19dpo. But yes, calculating as things should work it should say 2-3 x

GardenWorm Fri 15-Mar-13 07:32:03

12dpo - didn't think that was tooo early?

Big congrats to Jbrd and Lucky (what is 'eat testing btw?!)

Thunderbuns Fri 15-Mar-13 07:32:42

jbrd!!!! wowsers - congratulations!

Yay lucky!

Morning all x

IBelieveInPink Fri 15-Mar-13 07:34:07

Garden- still early enough to be wrong. Don't give up hope just yet. smile

Thunderbuns Fri 15-Mar-13 07:35:02

garden I think she might have meant 'early' perhaps?

don't think its the hpt stick eating method being referred to

When is your af due and what test did you use?

shellshock7 Fri 15-Mar-13 07:43:57

That could defo just be too early garden can you remember when you got BFPs previously as some people always get them after AF would be due?

pink still lying in bed not decided...dying for a wee and DS will be up in abt 15 mins so need to hurry up!

IBelieveInPink Fri 15-Mar-13 07:48:40

shell do you have anything you actually need to function for today?

GardenWorm Fri 15-Mar-13 07:49:49

Loving the posifrickintivity! I have CRAFT (can't remember a frickin thing!) but think I've always tested after AF due. On cd27 so you never know..... grin. AF was 28 day cycle but more like 32 since the last mc. Used an Internet cheapie but one of the sensitive ones (allegedly....) ;o)

Thunderbuns Fri 15-Mar-13 07:52:54

shell sorry- what's the decision here? I've missed something.

garden sounds like you're down for poas next Friday then! wink

JanieLovesCake Fri 15-Mar-13 07:55:12

Woop woop congrats jbrd and lucky!!! I still just have a faint line on poundland cheapie and uber faint on boots cheapest. Might invest in a cb digi tonight who am I kidding I'm going to buy one on the way to work

I'm still holding out hope for you garden xxx

Lucky, my only symptom is no AF yet and last week we went to the same restaurant that we'd been to when I was pg last time!

IBelieveInPink Fri 15-Mar-13 07:56:51

Janie- I told you that was a very good symptom!!! smile

shellshock7 Fri 15-Mar-13 08:01:31

Internet cheapie was just as dark so I've held out...will wait till Sunday now...sorry abt the stressing, but you know what it's like!

IBelieveInPink Fri 15-Mar-13 08:11:30

Well done shell. Good willpower. We will have our own pee day on Friday looking for upgraded digis. With where you are, any luck and it will go straight to 3+ smile

IBelieveInPink Fri 15-Mar-13 08:11:54

Obviously mean Sunday.

Thunderbuns Fri 15-Mar-13 08:39:06

How many bfps have we got now then?

alyant79 Fri 15-Mar-13 08:48:12

JBrd and lucky that's brilliant!
garden fx tomorrow??

for those who are symptomless: not sure if this helps or not but I had no symptoms with my DD at all. I had symptoms (vomming etc) with my empty sac... so not sure how much you should pay attention to symptoms, or the lack thereof. Seemed to be a bit random for me anyway.

Also not sure how much poas will tell you a week or two after the first bfp - i got all the way to 12 weeks, and then still 4 weeks post mc and was still getting a line... save some money perhaps and not do it?

Garden - it may be too early hun, I had this with my DS - AF wasn't turning up and I was getting some mild pain in my tummy (which I now know was inbedding). Had a negative test at the drs and he told me that I shouldn't bother doing anymore tests so I didn't - held out for 3 more weeks (somehow) turns out I was 8.5 weeks pregnant and had a false negative at the drs.

Try not to lose hope - it's not over until AF arrives - good luck x

Thunderbuns Fri 15-Mar-13 08:51:11

aly! What's this?! Tomorrow? Is tomorrow another Friday??

JBrd Fri 15-Mar-13 09:09:49

Thanks, everyone, and congrats to lucky, and Janie (again) - anyone else? (This thread moves too fast!)
I'm still stunned... DH is rather pleased because I congratulated him on his super-spermies grin But we are both a bit 'Here we go again', too, isn't that awful? It should just be joy and happiness

Garden You're not out of the running just yet! With my BFP back in November, I tested negative on 12DPO, then positive on 15DPO, and that was with a digital! And the line on the cheapie test today (yes, I used two tests, I'm a scientist wink) was soooooo much fainter than on the FR. Fingers crossed for you.

No symptoms here apart from missing AF, but for the last few days I've woken up being really hot - today I was drenched in sweat, ieewww.

LeenHS Fri 15-Mar-13 09:26:20

Hello! Please may I join. Had MC 3 weeks ago. I pg after 9 mths off ttc. Feeling stronger but nervous. Have dd'd a few times but sure not enough - was initially not sure about it because doctor told us to wait for next cycle. But I'm impatient. Really nice to find this thread.

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Fri 15-Mar-13 09:51:25

Right. If I stand here against the wall, can you all please come and slap me about the head with wet fish? Particularly those fish which are spiky, or have hard bits?
I have woken up this morning with that metallic taste in my mouth. And although we have been DTD all week, I am only due to ovulate today! Cant POAS until the 29th, so there is absolutely no frickin chance it is anything other than just having gone to bed dehydrated! But already my mind has raced off ahead of itself! angry Please, I need a good SLAP!

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Fri 15-Mar-13 09:52:50

Oh, and my OPKS came today, so I get to POAS! smile would pee on anything right now!

JBrd Fri 15-Mar-13 09:57:06

<<<slaps Saggy around the head with a porcupinefish>>>

Glad to be of service grin

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Fri 15-Mar-13 09:59:15

OUCH! Thanks. Anyone else?
Oh, and Jbird, you're too early. Try again next friday. in a couple of days

yorkiebilb Fri 15-Mar-13 10:02:22

Hello all. Can I rejoin this lovely thread? Was on this thread after having a mmc in Dec. came off it for a bit as wasn't sure if we were going ttc for a while as my lovely FIL very suddenly got diagnosed with terminal cancer. Had to move house at the same time so been a pretty stressful time but DH and I have agreed to continue to ttc. Would like to hang out with you lovely ladies in the meantime!

Hello to all those that I knew before...*baking*, thunder pink janie chocolate bump sorry if I've missed anyone off.

baking sorry for you loss - hope you're going to get some answers quickly.

thunder sounds like you've had a rubbish time. Hope you're okay and fx the tablets you're now taking will sort out your body so you can get your BFP!

Congratulations on all the BFP's and fx for those about to test! smilesmile

JanieLovesCake Fri 15-Mar-13 10:11:16

Hi yorkie! Lovely to see you, sorry you e had such a stressful time over the last few months. X

I bought a cb digi this morning, should I poas now or has my potentially good pee gone down first thing this morning? Don't want to waste the digi!!

IBelieveInPink Fri 15-Mar-13 10:15:58

Hey yorkie! <<waves>> good to see you back! How are you?

Okay. Insanity has set in. I was feeling super rough last night, was sick etc, convinced myself I was dying of food poisoning and was going to lose this one too.
My friend suggested this morning that this may actually be the onset of morning sickness? Possible? Had tummy cramps (definitely tummy not lower) and, ahem, loose bowels. I have never had morning sickness before so I don't know what it like. Anyone? Dying of food poisoning or not?
Feeling better today, just a little nausea which comes an goes. Hmmm

IBelieveInPink Fri 15-Mar-13 10:16:54

Janie, how many dpo? Or should I not bother asking as you have already blatantly peed on it?

shellshock7 Fri 15-Mar-13 10:17:43

Hi yorkie smile, best of luck getting a quick BFP

aly I'm only going to continue POAS till I get the 3+ weeks....I know that my MMC would still have shown a line, but the last MC at 5.5 weeks would probably not have so it's reassuring for the time being...I know once we get passed this stage there is still the MMC worry hmm

JanieLovesCake Fri 15-Mar-13 10:21:54

Ha ibip I'm 14dpo today ish, v irregular cycles but I'm sure AF shoulda been here yesterday. In in work at the mo so have to sneaky to the loos with my bag!

IBelieveInPink Fri 15-Mar-13 10:29:39

I reckon that would probably show up. smile

JBrd Fri 15-Mar-13 10:32:07

Janie The Cb digi should should be fine any time... Good luck!

IBelieve Sounds like ms to me... You might just have to wait and see if it continues. Does it help if you eat something? I had bad ms with DS, but only when my stomach was empty.

yorkiebilb Fri 15-Mar-13 10:35:01

Thanks for the lovely welcome! Trying to stay calm and together for DH but it's tough. DH has been amazing considering what he is dealing with - he's been travelling back to visit his parents alot and at the same time religiously sticking to the smep.

Pink It could well be ms - my understanding is that every pregnancy can be different for the same woman so you may have no morning sickness or it can start right away or later on.

Janie I don't know about cb digi. I know with frer then it should be fmu. What do the instructions say?

IBelieveInPink Fri 15-Mar-13 11:33:47

So Janie? Did you?

JanieLovesCake Fri 15-Mar-13 11:34:36

Oh crikey I did the cb digi and got a BFP!!!!!!!

yorkiebilb Fri 15-Mar-13 11:47:30

Woo hoo Janie! grin

JBrd Fri 15-Mar-13 11:49:19

Yay Janie!!!

shellshock7 Fri 15-Mar-13 11:59:44

Wahoo Janie! grin

JanieLovesCake Fri 15-Mar-13 12:00:29

You gotta hold my hand jbrd and lucky. I'm in a bit of shock here! I thought I'd be jumping for joy, which I am inside, but still feeling wary!! Eek!

Thunderbuns Fri 15-Mar-13 12:04:41

Yay janie!!!!!

IBelieveInPink Fri 15-Mar-13 12:09:34

Yaay! I knew you would! Fantastic news Janie I really pleased. I still in a panic don't worry, so we be there to hold your hand all the way and throw fish when required

Thunderbuns Fri 15-Mar-13 12:15:04

Hi there yorkie! <puts down fish and hugs>, it's lovely to see you. What a tough time you and DH are having- but I am glad you are here.

pink my 'ms' last time was regular erm...loose stools as it were wink.

SpanishLady Fri 15-Mar-13 12:33:15

whoo hoo - came in to see the Friday poas ladies and tremendous news! Many congrats Jbrd, Lucky and Janie!!

I believe and shell - I dont think 'the fear' dissipates until you feel more confident and when that will be, will probably be different person by person - I have this thing about getting to the point where I miscarried (8weeks 4 days) though rationally I get that it can actually happen anytime!

I think Jbrd said about expecting to feel elated at getting a bfp but feeling anxious instead - that is exactly how I felt - like a whoo ho, oh hold on Im here again oh god.

Have worked out that give or take the 2 weeks between my pregnancies and weeks you arent even pregnant but are still counted - I have been in the 1st trimester since 2nd December 2012!

I am extremely grateful for the BFP and the chance of a baby but would love to have a wee without having to say a prayer first!

more bfps please!

Lucky13ForBaby Fri 15-Mar-13 12:57:14

Hi Yorkie. Welcome back. Sorry things are really difficult for you right now but great your back in the running for a BFP.

Waaahhhhooo Janie smile -Think my cycle matches yours!

Agree all you are saying about being weary. I'm to scared to even do a digital. Although I did test with an OPK and was greeted with a smiley which made me feel good smile

Garden: Sorry yes I meant early test before not eat test! Yucky!

Can't remember who said about the symptoms but thank you for the info. Good to hear. I just so hope its going to work out this time but am struggling with the positivinfrigity a little!

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Fri 15-Mar-13 13:09:27

See! Everything is ok of you stick to the system! grin

Bakingtins Fri 15-Mar-13 13:16:07

Congratulations Janie!

Welcome back, Yorkie hope better things are on the way for you and you are joining the pregnancy thread soon too.

Such fantastic news ladies - I so happy for you and all the BFPs!!

I have finally got a positive OPK result today with a darker second line so I will be busy this weekend wink

My miscarriage was a month ago today so getting a positive OPK has cheered me up - looks like my body is getting back to normal (ish) xx

alyant79 Fri 15-Mar-13 14:23:22

yay mummy that's great.

BootyBigFatFridayBanger Fri 15-Mar-13 14:44:04

Yay Janie!! gringrin Such great news!

I hope the lucky Friday BFP run will go on & on!!

Thunderbuns Fri 15-Mar-13 14:50:25

<whispers> please can we have another list? I need someone organised to do it as I can't abandon my system enforcement role

<slaps fish against palm threateningly>

yorkiebilb Fri 15-Mar-13 15:33:38

Ahh shucks you're all so nice and welcoming. Hiya thunder <breathes a sigh of relief when thunder puts the fish down and hugs back> how are you doing? Saw you were put on some medication - how are you feeling about it all?

Working from home today and am meant to be writing my work objectives for the next year and what I want to submit to them is my ttc objectives instead! e.g.

1) Increase cm output by 40%.
2) Increase quantity and quality of DH's sperm count by 50%
3) Increase posifrickintivity on ttc after mc thread by 80% through offering guidance, support and advice.
4) Get a 100% sticky BFP!

I don't mind organising the list just can't remember what details we are including on there! If someone starts off I can collate all together!

alyant79 Fri 15-Mar-13 15:56:06

This list is NOT up to date with the recent flurry of bfps

Alyant79 1 DD 1MC - TTC cycle 0 BFP due 8th April
Bodicea: 0DC, 2MC, cycle 3 post erpc - BFP
Booty: 0DC, 1MC (oct12), TTC cycle 3 - poas 15/03/12 eek
BumpKitty: 1 DD 1MC - TTC cycle 3 - BFP
Camomile 0DC, 1MC, TTC cycle 0
Fod: 1DS 1DD 1MC TTC 0 cycle
Ickle:1 DD 1 MMC TTC Cycle 0
Janie: 0DC, 1MC (oct12), TTC cycle 3 - poas 15/03/12 eek
JBrd: 1 DS, 1 MC, cycle 1, AF/BFP due March 15/16 (according to my calculations) or March 12
jmf294: 1DS, 1DD, 1MC, TTC Cycle 2 post MC
Lucky13: 1DS 2MC, TTC cycle 5 post MC
MrsSpencerReid 1DS 1MC cycle 0
Mummytothearkbuilder 1DS 1MC TTC cycle 0
SaggyOldClothCatpuss 1DS 1DD 1MC -TTC cycle 1 POAS March 29
Santa 1 DC 2 MCs TTC cycle 0 (i.e. before first AF after ERPC)
Shellshock7 2MCs 1 DS - TTC cycle 3 - BFP
SpanishLady: 1 DS, 1MC, TTC Cycle 0 - BFP (before first AF post MC)
Woot: 2MC TTC cycle 0 {???}
Zeu 1DD 1mc cycle 1 bfp due 11th April

Thunderbuns Fri 15-Mar-13 15:57:15

Hey yorkie, yeah I started on the drugs this week and I'll be taking them forever now. It really is not a big deal so I'm fine in that respect. On the other hand I know having these crazy blood levels will have seriously scuppered my chances this month or into the future months too probably and this has made me feel totally gutted if I'm honest. I'm delighted for all the bfps on here of course, they make my week, but the thought of just not having a chance of graduating with all my buddies makes me sad sad sad

Sob story over. I'm loving your list! did I mention I'm glad you're back?!
So where are you in your cycle now?

icklemssunshine1 Fri 15-Mar-13 16:18:01

Congratulations on all the BFPs! I hope the Friday luck continues for when its my time to test! Must be both a happy and anxious time, sending all my love & luck to your little beans smile

Rang Gynae ward today & still bleeding & you all were right. If no pain or heavy bleeding they're not concerned even though its 16 days post ERPC. Just annoyed as got positive ovulation Weds. Grr - just hope DTD Weds is enough, don't want to try again til bleeding stops again.

Hope everyone else is feeling full of positivity!! smile

yorkiebilb Fri 15-Mar-13 16:37:51

ahh thanks thunder I'm glad to be back amongst you all too. It's much better to deal with all the ttc drama with people that understand.

I'm not surprised you feel that way thunder - how was it diagnosed? Did the docs say if that could have caused your mc and how long it would take to get your blood levels to even out? Questions questions!

I'm 2DPO. Continuing the drama I've been having pains throughout my cycle and a seriously long af so the doc referred me to get a pelvic ultrasound. All was fine and ultrasound lady could tell that I had just ovulated. She said that it could take a few months for your bits to settle down after a mc so hopefully thats what it is.

She did tell me to relax over the ttc - I laughed at her comment and told her that was a bit difficult to do that after a mc!!! This was the women who told me she planned the month she was going to conceive as she wanted to give birth at a particular time of year. Whatever!

Adding myself to the list. If people post their stats I can add them to the list.

Alyant79 1 DD 1MC - TTC cycle 0 BFP due 8th April
Bodicea: 0DC, 2MC, cycle 3 post erpc - BFP
Booty: 0DC, 1MC (oct12), TTC cycle 3 - poas 15/03/12 eek
BumpKitty: 1 DD 1MC - TTC cycle 3 - BFP
Camomile 0DC, 1MC, TTC cycle 0
Fod: 1DS 1DD 1MC TTC 0 cycle
Ickle:1 DD 1 MMC TTC Cycle 0
Janie: 0DC, 1MC (oct12), TTC cycle 3 - poas 15/03/12 eek
JBrd: 1 DS, 1 MC, cycle 1, AF/BFP due March 15/16 (according to my calculations) or March 12
jmf294: 1DS, 1DD, 1MC, TTC Cycle 2 post MC
Lucky13: 1DS 2MC, TTC cycle 5 post MC
MrsSpencerReid 1DS 1MC cycle 0
Mummytothearkbuilder 1DS 1MC TTC cycle 0
SaggyOldClothCatpuss 1DS 1DD 1MC -TTC cycle 1 POAS March 29
Santa 1 DC 2 MCs TTC cycle 0 (i.e. before first AF after ERPC)
Shellshock7 2MCs 1 DS - TTC cycle 3 - BFP
SpanishLady: 1 DS, 1MC, TTC Cycle 0 - BFP (before first AF post MC)
Woot: 2MC TTC cycle 0 {???}
Zeu 1DD 1mc cycle 1 bfp due 11th April
Yorkiebilb 0DC 1MMC cycle 4 post MC

Lucky13ForBaby Fri 15-Mar-13 16:51:08

I'm to scared to update the stats list. I'm a nervous wreck!

IBelieveInPink Fri 15-Mar-13 16:59:17

Just realised I not on the list!!!
Please can someone pop me on there?

Pink- 0dc, 2mc, cycle 1 following last mc BFP. hopefully due 17.11.13!

GardenWorm Fri 15-Mar-13 17:03:07

Shhhh. Between you and me - boobs have been tingling all day long - snuck in a secondary device. If I squint so hard that the crows feet wrap around the back of my head and to the front again, I think (very tentatively) there may be a very very very faint (so faint writing the next word scares me) l li lin FRICKIN LINE!

6 internet cheapies left - just got to resist the temptation to use them in one evening.

....and breathe grin

Thunderbuns Fri 15-Mar-13 17:06:49

GARDEN!!!! See- it's the system!

SpanishLady Fri 15-Mar-13 17:09:00

Garden!!!!!! Hurrah! Maybe do tomorrow or Sunday with morning wee?

GardenWorm Fri 15-Mar-13 17:10:48

Seriously I'm trying not wet myself in excitement. Must not get carried away until I have one that any normal sighted person would class as a line but it's seems to have been so long coming.....EEK!

GardenWorm Fri 15-Mar-13 17:12:16

Tomorrow am is guaranteed - it's whether I can wait sooooo long! Lol!

JanieLovesCake Fri 15-Mar-13 17:12:40

GARDEN!!!!! WAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!! i'm so frickin excited here!!! DH just asked me why i just shouted 'YISSSSS!' at my laptop!! ok that's what happened to me...mega faint line...the only way i could stop my brain melting was the cb digi this morning. i say go get one if you can!!!! dammit if i was near you then you could have the other one in my pack! high five friday club!!!!!! x x x x x x x

WillSantaComeAgain Fri 15-Mar-13 17:17:15

Garden wow! and Jbird and janie and lucky (is that right? apologies if I've added your name by mistake - i JUST CAN'T KEEP UP WITH THE EXCITMENT)

Definite cramping today - that's implantation pains, right? (ERPC on 19 Feb - so too early to be AF?)

(Gonna be gutted if AF arrives before I even get to the excitement that is POAS Friday)

alyant79 Fri 15-Mar-13 17:20:50

oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh wooooooooo garden!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i am never maybe testing any day other than friday

shellshock7 Fri 15-Mar-13 17:22:03

garden that's how my BFP started smile

alyant79 Fri 15-Mar-13 17:22:53

feel like going home to dtd to get on the bandwagon. only still bleeding a little bit....... feeling all left out. must poas soon. only 3 weeks to go. such a long time!

shellshock7 Fri 15-Mar-13 17:23:35

Pressed to soon!

So I would defo say that's a BFP congrats!! grin

yorkiebilb Fri 15-Mar-13 17:31:24

Woo hoo Garden!!!

Lucky13ForBaby Fri 15-Mar-13 17:33:29

Yay Garden smile

Bodicea Fri 15-Mar-13 18:22:34

Wow can't believe all the BFPs today. Tis a special thread indeed. Congratulations everyone. Goodness me so many. How exciting!!!!
Garden worm Woop woop. A line is a line. My first one didn't come up for ages, I nearly threw it in the bin and I had to squint to see it.

Bodicea Fri 15-Mar-13 18:27:05

Just looked at the stats list. Anyone noticed there seems to be a link between MMCs, cycle 3 and BFPs?

Bodicea Fri 15-Mar-13 18:29:58

I mean MCs not just MMCs

Thunderbuns Fri 15-Mar-13 18:34:10

yorkie, I went to the doc's a few weeks after ERPC as I was so tired, run down and ill still. She sent me for blood test to check iron and thyroid function. Both were pretty low (she thought the fact I had just started taking spatone iron supps had pulled me over the anaemic line), so asked me to return in 3 months for thyroid check. This time it was even lower. Even though it's not actually below the threshold, the thyroid stimulating hormone (which goes into overdrive when the thyroid starts giving up) is working its socks off in order to make even this low amount.

This was enough info for her to see where I'm headed so she's started me on thyroxine which should help. Don't know how long it'll be to sort it out. There's no evidence re the mmc of course- just seems a big coincidence that it's all happened at the same time.

For info- thyroxine is vital for brain development of new bean so you've got to be able to make lots of it during first tri. Or get your levels checked regularly if your thyroid doesn't work! I bet mrs knows plenty more than me about this stuff.

Great news re good ultrasound but phhhbbbbb to getting up the duff on command. Grrrrrr!

garden, now you've got your bfp you can poas as much as you like. Keep us posted!

Floweroct Fri 15-Mar-13 18:43:08

Yay for the bfps!

Can I be added to the list please!
0dc 1mmc cycle 1

AmelieRose Fri 15-Mar-13 18:55:47

Hello everyone! Was on last thread but not been on for ages (have been lurking though!).

So excited to read all the BFPs! Fingers crossed for lots more...

yorkiebilb Fri 15-Mar-13 18:57:47

Alyant79 1 DD 1MC - TTC cycle 0 BFP due 8th April
Bodicea: 0DC, 2MC, cycle 3 post erpc - BFP
Booty: 0DC, 1MC (oct12), TTC cycle 3 - poas 15/03/12 eek
BumpKitty: 1 DD 1MC - TTC cycle 3 - BFP
Camomile 0DC, 1MC, TTC cycle 0
Floweroct 0dc 1mmc cycle 1
Fod: 1DS 1DD 1MC TTC 0 cycle
Ickle:1 DD 1 MMC TTC Cycle 0
Janie: 0DC, 1MC (oct12), TTC cycle 3 - poas 15/03/12 eek
JBrd: 1 DS, 1 MC, cycle 1, AF/BFP due March 15/16 (according to my calculations) or March 12
jmf294: 1DS, 1DD, 1MC, TTC Cycle 2 post MC
Lucky13: 1DS 2MC, TTC cycle 5 post MC
Pink- 0dc, 2mc, cycle 1 following last mc BFP. hopefully due 17.11.13!
MrsSpencerReid 1DS 1MC cycle 0
Mummytothearkbuilder 1DS 1MC TTC cycle 0
SaggyOldClothCatpuss 1DS 1DD 1MC -TTC cycle 1 POAS March 29
Santa 1 DC 2 MCs TTC cycle 0 (i.e. before first AF after ERPC)
Shellshock7 2MCs 1 DS - TTC cycle 3 - BFP
SpanishLady: 1 DS, 1MC, TTC Cycle 0 - BFP (before first AF post MC)
Woot: 2MC TTC cycle 0 {???}
Zeu 1DD 1mc cycle 1 bfp due 11th April
Yorkiebilb 0DC 1MMC cycle 3 post MC

Zeuxippe Fri 15-Mar-13 19:02:41

What a fantastic Friday! Well done garden janie and everyone else from earlier! The rules rock and Fridays are where it's at!

Dtd under smep starts in earnest here this weekend - eek!! Posh hotel here we come!

Lieslvontrapp Fri 15-Mar-13 19:07:53

Congrats on all the bfps. Poas Friday is the way to go! Can someone add me to the list? 0 dc 1 mmc ttc cycle 1. Thanks!

yorkiebilb Fri 15-Mar-13 19:09:40

I'm confused and going to sound really stupid. If I had a mc in Dec is the first cycle after that between mc and af Cycle 0 or cycle 1? I can't work out if I'm on cycle 3 or cycle 4! If its cycle 3 I'll have one of those bfp's that's going around pretty please!

thunder you asked for the list and you're not on it for some reason. Update please <hides behind the sofa expecting a fish to be thrown at any moment>
It does seem all suspiciously linked to mmc imo. At least you went to the docs soon afterwards rather than waiting months and hopefully you will soon be feeling better and raring to go.

Anyone due to poas soon? We want more BFP's!

LittleBairn Fri 15-Mar-13 19:20:01

Room for another?
My TTC story is that DH and I have been desperate to start a family for years but only just in the position to TTC last year. I conceived after 3 months of TTC, we were delighted only to be devastated when we lost our DS at 16 week gestation to premature membranes rupture.
That was early December and this is our 3rd month of trying, I'm starting to really worry.

I show a lot of signs of PCOS (I'm have seriously hirsutism) bu haven't so far presued a diagnosis, mainly because I got pregnant quick than I though I would.
I'm using the Clearblue fertility monitor its confirmed my suspicion that I have a short luteal phase of around 8/9 days.

I was seriously considered giving up permantly (I'm in late 20s but DH is mid 40s) but DH is now really broody and excited about the idea of having another baby.

Googling like mad for solutions but there is so many theories I don't know what the hell to do.
The monitor tells me I have high fertility at the moment so we will be DTD tonight amd then wait till we get the sign for ovulation and do it then too.
I've bought some evening primrose oil but too late for that this month.

I've also got a pinapple to eat after ovulation, I did that the month I conceived DS.

Feeling quite raw about it all but the worst is the isolation in RL no one can understand what it feels like everyone I seem to know have more problems NOT getting pregnant. Amd my mother (lovely usually) keeps going on about how no one has ever lost a baby before in our family.

AmelieRose Fri 15-Mar-13 19:20:11

Can someone add me to the list please? 0 DC, 1MC, TTC cycle 2 ( I think - MC was end Dec/beginning Jan, had two periods since - is cycle 2 right?)

Am all of a muddle! grin

LittleBairn Fri 15-Mar-13 19:21:18

Forgot to add I'm sure I had a chemical pregnancy the very first month of TTC the first time around too.

Lucky13ForBaby Fri 15-Mar-13 19:21:24

Tentative list update:

Alyant79 1 DD 1MC - TTC cycle 0 BFP due 8th April
Bodicea: 0DC, 2MC, cycle 3 post erpc - BFP
Booty: 0DC, 1MC (oct12), TTC cycle 3 - poas 15/03/12 eek
BumpKitty: 1 DD 1MC - TTC cycle 3 - BFP
Camomile 0DC, 1MC, TTC cycle 0
Floweroct 0dc 1mmc cycle 1
Fod: 1DS 1DD 1MC TTC 0 cycle
Ickle:1 DD 1 MMC TTC Cycle 0
Janie: 0DC, 1MC (oct12), TTC cycle 3 - poas 15/03/12 eek
JBrd: 1 DS, 1 MC, cycle 1, AF/BFP due March 15/16 (according to my calculations) or March 12
jmf294: 1DS, 1DD, 1MC, TTC Cycle 2 post MC
Lucky13: 1DS 2MC, TTC cycle 5 post MC - BFP (Whispers quietly, stick baby)
Pink- 0dc, 2mc, cycle 1 following last mc BFP. hopefully due 17.11.13!
MrsSpencerReid 1DS 1MC cycle 0
Mummytothearkbuilder 1DS 1MC TTC cycle 0
SaggyOldClothCatpuss 1DS 1DD 1MC -TTC cycle 1 POAS March 29
Santa 1 DC 2 MCs TTC cycle 0 (i.e. before first AF after ERPC)
Shellshock7 2MCs 1 DS - TTC cycle 3 - BFP
SpanishLady: 1 DS, 1MC, TTC Cycle 0 - BFP (before first AF post MC)
Woot: 2MC TTC cycle 0 {???}
Zeu 1DD 1mc cycle 1 bfp due 11th April

yorkiebilb Fri 15-Mar-13 19:33:36

Alyant79 1 DD 1MC - TTC cycle 0 BFP due 8th April
Bodicea: 0DC, 2MC, cycle 3 post erpc - BFP
Booty: 0DC, 1MC (oct12), TTC cycle 3 - poas 15/03/12 eek
BumpKitty: 1 DD 1MC - TTC cycle 3 - BFP
Camomile 0DC, 1MC, TTC cycle 0
Floweroct 0dc 1mmc cycle 1
Fod: 1DS 1DD 1MC TTC 0 cycle
Ickle:1 DD 1 MMC TTC Cycle 0
Janie: 0DC, 1MC (oct12), TTC cycle 3 - poas 15/03/12 eek
JBrd: 1 DS, 1 MC, cycle 1, AF/BFP due March 15/16 (according to my calculations) or March 12
jmf294: 1DS, 1DD, 1MC, TTC Cycle 2 post MC
Lucky13: 1DS 2MC, TTC cycle 5 post MC - BFP (Whispers quietly, stick baby)
Pink- 0dc, 2mc, cycle 1 following last mc BFP. hopefully due 17.11.13!
MrsSpencerReid 1DS 1MC cycle 0
Mummytothearkbuilder 1DS 1MC TTC cycle 0
SaggyOldClothCatpuss 1DS 1DD 1MC -TTC cycle 1 POAS March 29
Santa 1 DC 2 MCs TTC cycle 0 (i.e. before first AF after ERPC)
Shellshock7 2MCs 1 DS - TTC cycle 3 - BFP
SpanishLady: 1 DS, 1MC, TTC Cycle 0 - BFP (before first AF post MC)
Woot: 2MC TTC cycle 0 {???}
Zeu 1DD 1mc cycle 1 bfp due 11th April
Yorkiebilb 0dc, 1mmc TTC cycle 3 post erpc

yorkiebilb Fri 15-Mar-13 19:35:21

Welcome to the thread little and sorry you find yourself here. Have you been to the docs yet to express your concerns about your symptoms?

Thunderbuns Fri 15-Mar-13 19:40:06

Alyant79 1 DD 1MC - TTC cycle 0 BFP due 8th April
Booty: 0DC, 1MC (oct12), TTC cycle 3 - poas 15/03/12 eek
Camomile 0DC, 1MC, TTC cycle 0
Floweroct 0dc 1mmc cycle 1
Fod: 1DS 1DD 1MC TTC 0 cycle
Ickle:1 DD 1 MMC TTC Cycle 0
jmf294: 1DS, 1DD, 1MC, TTC Cycle 2 post MC
MrsSpencerReid 1DS 1MC cycle 0
Mummytothearkbuilder 1DS 1MC TTC cycle 0
SaggyOldClothCatpuss 1DS 1DD 1MC -TTC cycle 1 POAS March 29
Santa 1 DC 2 MCs TTC cycle 0 (i.e. before first AF after ERPC)
Thunderbuns 0DC, 1mmc, ttc cycle 4 post ERPC
Woot: 2MC TTC cycle 0 {???}
Zeu 1DD 1mc cycle 1 bfp due 11th April
Yorkiebilb 0dc, 1mmc TTC cycle 3 post

Bodicea: 0DC, 2MC, cycle 3 post erpc - BFP
BumpKitty: 1 DD 1MC - TTC cycle 3 - BFP
Janie: 0DC, 1MC (oct12), TTC cycle 3 - BFP
JBrd: 1 DS, 1 MC, cycle 1, BFP
Lucky13: 1DS 2MC, TTC cycle 5 post MC - BFP (Whispers quietly, stick baby)
Pink- 0dc, 2mc, cycle 1 following last mc BFP. hopefully due 17.11.13!
Shellshock7 2MCs 1 DS - TTC cycle 3 - BFP
SpanishLady: 1 DS, 1MC, TTC Cycle 0 - BFP (before first AF post MC

Thunderbuns Fri 15-Mar-13 19:40:25

How's that?

SaggyOldClothCatpuss Fri 15-Mar-13 19:42:00

Right. Ive got a plan! Im going to eat everything you arent meant to eat when you are PG. Soft cheese, pate, rare meat, tuna... . Im going to drink alcohol...
Anything and everything that I really shouldn't do. Im virtually guaranteed to get PG then... It's the Law of Sod!

Thunderbuns Fri 15-Mar-13 19:42:08

Hi little, I recognise you from a previous thread - maybe the May one? So sorry you're here but you are welcome.

yorkie, I don't fish slap for bossing me, just breaking the system! Added myself.

farmerwife Fri 15-Mar-13 19:50:26

thunder Please will you add me to your list - 0 dc 3 mc 1 ep cycle 1

This thread is best thing i have ever found, feel better being on it and definitely less alone...still working on the fear factor!

Am i right in thinking you all test on a friday?????

SaggyOldClothCatpuss Fri 15-Mar-13 20:01:25

For Farmer and all the other newbies, heres a C&P of WillSantaComeAgain's thread rules:
POAS Rules
<<usurps thunder's dictatorship complex>>

(1) A lady may only POAS on a Friday.
(2) Friday means the day that everyone calls Friday in the time zone where you spent the night. <<glares at Janie>> <<feels bad in case Janie lives in Australia>>
(3) Rule (1) does not apply to POA-OPK-S
(4) Rule (1) does not apply following a BFP because if you want to waste £25 a day POADigiS that's your prerogative <<refuses to admit that's what I'll do>>
(5) Rule (1) does not apply if a lady is POAS in an attempt to get a BFN to prove she can start DTD with intent
(6) Rule (1) does not apply if a lady wants for unknown reason to pee on an actual stick, like a twig or some such, if that lady is unexpectedly caught short whilst tramping in the forest looking for bears.
(7) These rules (including Rule (1)) are subject to the change at any time if the ladies of the Posifrickentivity thread decide on a whim come up with empirical evidence to prove that it is luckier to POAS on any other day of the week
(8) Violators of Rule (1) shall be subject to fish throwing.

By the way, welcome (not that that's quite the right word, but you know what I mean) to all the other ladies who so sadly find themselves here. Its great fun, everyone is lovely and not at all psychotic !

alyant79 Fri 15-Mar-13 20:01:50

too tipsy to update the list (surely i'm not alone in seeing this as a bit of a silver lining?), but whoever is doing it next i should be a MMC, not an MC.

i think amelie rose needs to be added too

icklemssunshine1 Fri 15-Mar-13 20:24:35

Saggy peeing myself at rule 6 (but not on a stick smile )

SaggyOldClothCatpuss Fri 15-Mar-13 20:25:01

Alyant79 1 DD 1MMC - TTC cycle 0 BFP due 8th April
AmelieRose 0 DC, 1MC, TTC cycle 2
Booty: 0DC, 1MC (oct12), TTC cycle 3 - poas 15/03/12 eek
Camomile 0DC, 1MC, TTC cycle 0
Floweroct 0dc 1mmc cycle 1
Fod: 1DS 1DD 1MC TTC 0 cycle
Ickle:1 DD 1 MMC TTC Cycle 0
jmf294: 1DS, 1DD, 1MC, TTC Cycle 2 post MC
MrsSpencerReid 1DS 1MC cycle 0
Mummytothearkbuilder 1DS 1MC TTC cycle 0
SaggyOldClothCatpuss 1DS 1DD 1MC -TTC cycle 1 POAS March 29
Santa 1 DC 2 MCs TTC cycle 0 (i.e. before first AF after ERPC)
Thunderbuns 0DC, 1mmc, ttc cycle 4 post ERPC
Woot: 2MC TTC cycle 0 {???}
Zeu 1DD 1mc cycle 1 bfp due 11th April
Yorkiebilb 0dc, 1mmc TTC cycle 3 post

Bodicea: 0DC, 2MC, cycle 3 post erpc - BFP
BumpKitty: 1 DD 1MC - TTC cycle 3 - BFP
Janie: 0DC, 1MC (oct12), TTC cycle 3 - BFP
JBrd: 1 DS, 1 MC, cycle 1, BFP
Lucky13: 1DS 2MC, TTC cycle 5 post MC - BFP (Whispers quietly, stick baby)
Pink- 0dc, 2mc, cycle 1 following last mc BFP. hopefully due 17.11.13!
Shellshock7 2MCs 1 DS - TTC cycle 3 - BFP
SpanishLady: 1 DS, 1MC, TTC Cycle 0 - BFP (before first AF post MC

SaggyOldClothCatpuss Fri 15-Mar-13 20:28:13

Ickle never mind a stick. I went out with DM and DB today. I laughed so much I nearly peed on the floor in Bonne Marche! It was lovely to have some fun for a change. smile

LittleBairn Fri 15-Mar-13 20:29:15

York I'm going to arrange an appointment on Monday, been avoiding the Drs and Hosp the after care after DS death was dreadful. But I was seriously ill with Folate anaemia afterwards, currently on 5mg of Folic Acid and need to book bloods to see how my levels are now.

Thunderbuns Yes I was on the May thread, thank you for the welcome.
Did you have a similar name on the May thread, I recognise your name too. smile

So anyone got any advice for a short Luteal phase?

icklemssunshine1 Fri 15-Mar-13 20:34:09

Saggy, know what you mean. Lots of Comic Relief stuff at school today & the kids' infectious mood cheered me up (plus all the cakes I sampled at the staff bake-off competition - not feeling guilty though, I'm sure cake is as vital as folic acid smile ).

Bodicea Fri 15-Mar-13 20:34:16

Just realised I might have got my BFP on cycle 2 as didn't count a cycle 0. I think not sure now confused anyway gonna call it cycle 3 as fits with my theory.

saggy love the rules. Feeling contrite for breaking them now blush

Bakingtins Fri 15-Mar-13 20:36:47

Garden congratulations! A line is a line. It's the rules.

Welcome little bairn, sorry to hear about your MC, and hope you'll soon be joining the ranks of the upduffed.

Can someone add my stats when you update the list please

Bakingtins, 2 DC, 3 MC, cycle 0

AmelieRose Fri 15-Mar-13 21:08:18

Love the rules Saggy grin, thanks for adding me!

Just found out my SIL (one of my closest friends) is up the duff. Am so, so happy for them but feeling a wee bit sad too. Hoping I'll be able to join her soon...

BumpKitty Fri 15-Mar-13 21:12:34

Well done fertile fridayers grin I so love this thread x

SaggyOldClothCatpuss Fri 15-Mar-13 21:13:25

I didn't write them. Santa did! Im not that clever!
Well, I POAOPK today...nothing! According to the app, I should ovulate around today. I know its late to start, but Im going to keep DTD andPOAOPK and see what happens. Hopefully Ive already ovulated. <<crosses fingers>>

Congrats for all the BFPs - such amazing news and love all the positive stories - helps maintain the hope!!

Welcome to all the new people too - sorry you find yourselves here but it's an ace thread for support!


Sapphireday Fri 15-Mar-13 21:31:27

I'm with you there, Saggy. So far this week I have eaten chorizo, rare steak, parma ham, blue cheese and the ripest, oozingest French cheese possible to find! I'm sure soft eggs will be on the menu this weekend!

Congrats to all the the ladies with BFPs today. Great news!

We've been to the infertility clinic today and they are keen for us to get started on our next cycle - meds will start 19 days after AF arrives. Very pleased that the wait won't be too long. And they're also happy for us to ttc naturally as soon as my ERPC bleeding has ceased - none of this waiting for the first AF malarky. Woo hoo! DP won't know what has hit him!

farmerwife Fri 15-Mar-13 21:34:50

Ha those rules are great - will stop me needing to take out shares in pregnancy tests!!! Fridays it is then.

How do i get myself on the big list thing saggy

Amelie I found out a friend is up the duff too today. She kept asking how it made me feel I lied!

SaggyOldClothCatpuss Fri 15-Mar-13 21:38:27

Farmer just cut and paste the list and insert yourself alphabetically.

farmerwife Fri 15-Mar-13 21:46:01

Alyant79 1 DD 1MMC - TTC cycle 0 BFP due 8th April
AmelieRose 0 DC, 1MC, TTC cycle 2
Booty: 0DC, 1MC (oct12), TTC cycle 3 - poas 15/03/12 eek
Camomile 0DC, 1MC, TTC cycle 0
Farmerwife 0DC 3MC 1Ep Cycle 1
Floweroct 0dc 1mmc cycle 1
Fod: 1DS 1DD 1MC TTC 0 cycle
Ickle:1 DD 1 MMC TTC Cycle 0
jmf294: 1DS, 1DD, 1MC, TTC Cycle 2 post MC
MrsSpencerReid 1DS 1MC cycle 0
Mummytothearkbuilder 1DS 1MC TTC cycle 0
SaggyOldClothCatpuss 1DS 1DD 1MC -TTC cycle 1 POAS March 29
Santa 1 DC 2 MCs TTC cycle 0 (i.e. before first AF after ERPC)
Thunderbuns 0DC, 1mmc, ttc cycle 4 post ERPC
Woot: 2MC TTC cycle 0 {???}
Zeu 1DD 1mc cycle 1 bfp due 11th April
Yorkiebilb 0dc, 1mmc TTC cycle 3 post

Bodicea: 0DC, 2MC, cycle 3 post erpc - BFP
BumpKitty: 1 DD 1MC - TTC cycle 3 - BFP
Janie: 0DC, 1MC (oct12), TTC cycle 3 - BFP
JBrd: 1 DS, 1 MC, cycle 1, BFP
Lucky13: 1DS 2MC, TTC cycle 5 post MC - BFP (Whispers quietly, stick baby)
Pink- 0dc, 2mc, cycle 1 following last mc BFP. hopefully due 17.11.13!
Shellshock7 2MCs 1 DS - TTC cycle 3 - BFP
SpanishLady: 1 DS, 1MC, TTC Cycle 0 - BFP (before first AF post MC

GardenWorm Fri 15-Mar-13 21:55:29

Thank you ladies - love you guys! Newbies sorry you are here but it helps under the circumstances. X

WillSantaComeAgain Fri 15-Mar-13 22:26:11

On cycle counting: I've gone with cycle 0 being the one after the mc before you get your first AF as its so hit and miss you can't necessarily guarantee that you'll even be able to TTC during that time.
<aware that's going to upset the cycle 3 system>

Pg announcements in RL suck- as someone much wiser than me on here said, remember, they're not having your baby and there is no limit on the number of women who can be pg. being sad doesn't make you a bad person or friend, it just means you're sad for your own loss, which is totally normal. If a friend asks you how that makes you feel, I think there is no harm in saying that you're obv happy for them but you're still grieving. Or just telling them to fuck the fuck off <<feeling feisty after a shocking day>> <<anyone wanna have a go>>


IBelieveInPink Fri 15-Mar-13 22:47:16

Garden! I just check back in and look what the hell happened! Jeez Fridays on this Fred are immense!!!! Wahhooooooo!

Now, only one more day to go before I get to poa digi. shell have you caved yet? smile

On the whole friends getting pg thing, my friend ( who is very lovely) asked me if I was okay with her getting pg (just after mc 2). My reply was of course I am naturally a little jealous, but my happyness and excitement for you far outweighs that. I will tell you if talking about it ever gets to hard.
That answer seemed to go down okay, satisfying the curiosity of does it hurt (yes) and also reassuring of happiness (yay)

shellshock7 Sat 16-Mar-13 00:32:54

little I have a self diagnosed short luteal phase of 9-10 days (ovulate CD19-20 and 29 day cycle) and seem to get PG quite quickly if that is any reassurance smile

I've resisted pink RL took over so not even thought abt POAS latterly shock Will explain tomorrow too shattered now...hope everyone is ok, night x

IBelieveInPink Sat 16-Mar-13 06:43:11

Hope you okay shell
Am I right thinking it is you ds' 1st birthday today? Happy birthday mini shell!

katerinaemalina Sat 16-Mar-13 07:00:46

Ha! I've just posted a new thread but this thread is made for me - hugs to all! 2xmc, want somewhere to hide/talk with others in similar scary position. Loving the pma. Am feeling pretty sad and tearful at mo as am surrounded by "I got preg first time" people. Grrr wink

Lucky13ForBaby Sat 16-Mar-13 07:03:31

Morning all. Hi to all the newbies. Very sad so many lovely ladies are here.
Is it POADigital day tomorrow?
I was up early as was in bed by 8.30pm last night. Feeling really shakey. Hope not a bad sign

GardenWorm Sat 16-Mar-13 07:15:39

Me and DH are in agreement - definitely a line! He's a bit wary though bless him. I am just happy I am actually pregnant again even though the outcome is unknown. Going to pay the Drs a visit on Monday to get my thyroid checked (all the females in my family have underactive) and to see their thoughts on asprin and extra folic, am going all out on worst case scenario prevention and getting third time lucky!

Hello Kat and welcome - its lovely, warm and cosy here smile

Happy Birthday Minishell x

shellshock7 Sat 16-Mar-13 07:16:43

Hi *katerina' sorry you find yourself here and good luck getting your BFP smile

hope you're ok lucky that could be anything...the stress of getting a BFP even so try not to worry smile

Thanks for remembering pink yes it is, but we spent yesterday in hospital with him, he's a very poorly little boy so obviously his party is cancelled hmm Hopefully he picks up a bit today so we can have some smiles at least smile

IBelieveInPink Sat 16-Mar-13 07:52:43

Oh shell! That's so sad, I'm sorry to hear that. I do hope he is feeling better soon, at least enough to enjoy a little bit of birthday fun.
I see what you mean, mind taken off poa digi slightly! I hope ur okay thanks

shellshock7 Sat 16-Mar-13 08:10:24

Yeah pink it's really rubbish but just one of then things I guess...dark line still on the cheapie this morning tho so haven't foregone POAS altogether grin

Thanks Garden and congrats grin

Bakingtins Sat 16-Mar-13 08:15:49

Hugs for minishell - hope he is better today.

Lucky13ForBaby Sat 16-Mar-13 08:40:11

Ahh, get well soon minishell and happy 1st birthday xxx

Thunderbuns Sat 16-Mar-13 08:49:55

GWS minishell, and HB x x

Hooray garden and welcome kat. Hiding and talking us what we do well here.

LittleBairn Sat 16-Mar-13 09:02:54

willsanta" they're not having your baby and there is no limit on the number of women who can be pg"
That's simple and yet so wise, I will need to remind myself of that.

shellshock thanks that actually does help me feel more positive.

Gardenworm great news, wishing you stick vibes.

farmerwife Sat 16-Mar-13 09:05:06

welcome kat it is really good here even despite the circumstances!

LittleBairn Sat 16-Mar-13 09:05:53

Alyant79 1 DD 1MMC - TTC cycle 0 BFP due 8th April
AmelieRose 0 DC, 1MC, TTC cycle 2
Booty: 0DC, 1MC (oct12), TTC cycle 3 - poas 15/03/12 eek
Camomile 0DC, 1MC, TTC cycle 0
Farmerwife 0DC 3MC 1Ep Cycle 1
Floweroct 0dc 1mmc cycle 1
Fod: 1DS 1DD 1MC TTC 0 cycle
Ickle:1 DD 1 MMC TTC Cycle 0
jmf294: 1DS, 1DD, 1MC, TTC Cycle 2 post MC
LittleBairn : 0DC, 1 MC, TTC Cycle 3 post MC
MrsSpencerReid 1DS 1MC cycle 0
Mummytothearkbuilder 1DS 1MC TTC cycle 0
SaggyOldClothCatpuss 1DS 1DD 1MC -TTC cycle 1 POAS March 29
Santa 1 DC 2 MCs TTC cycle 0 (i.e. before first AF after ERPC)
Thunderbuns 0DC, 1mmc, ttc cycle 4 post ERPC
Woot: 2MC TTC cycle 0 {???}
Zeu 1DD 1mc cycle 1 bfp due 11th April
Yorkiebilb 0dc, 1mmc TTC cycle 3 post

Bodicea: 0DC, 2MC, cycle 3 post erpc - BFP
BumpKitty: 1 DD 1MC - TTC cycle 3 - BFP
Janie: 0DC, 1MC (oct12), TTC cycle 3 - BFP
JBrd: 1 DS, 1 MC, cycle 1, BFP
Lucky13: 1DS 2MC, TTC cycle 5 post MC - BFP (Whispers quietly, stick baby)
Pink- 0dc, 2mc, cycle 1 following last mc BFP. hopefully due 17.11.13!
Shellshock7 2MCs 1 DS - TTC cycle 3 - BFP
SpanishLady: 1 DS, 1MC, TTC Cycle 0 - BFP (before first AF post MC

yorkiebilb Sat 16-Mar-13 09:32:48

little hope you get to see a doc soon and get to the bottom of it all soon.

garden congrats!

shell happy birthday to your little un!

Welcome to all the newbies. This thread is great.

SaggyOldClothCatpuss Sat 16-Mar-13 09:51:35

That taste was back this morning... hmm

Now where's Thunder with that fish!...

IBelieveInPink Sat 16-Mar-13 10:09:44

<<in thunders absence hurls a chicken kiev>>.
Sorry, ran out of fish fingers.....

BirdsDoIt Sat 16-Mar-13 10:12:43

Wow everyone was busy yesterday! Congrats garden, shell, jbird, and janie and anyone else who got a a BFP! Amazing.

santa I loved your answer on other friends getting pg - both the wise bit of other women aren't having your baby and also the fuck the fuck off option. Made me laugh out loud (and DH too when I showed it to him).

shell I really hope your little one gets well soon and can enjoy a belated bday party.

Boring question for you ladies - with a mmc, when the baby stopped growing at 5 weeks (but I didn't start bleeding until 11 weeks) how long will the bleeding go on for do you reckon? I've had a week of light bleeding, intermittent cramping, nothing hugely dramatic. Is this goig to continue for weeks more :-( obvs everyone is different but it's be interesting to hear what others experienced (if not too upsetting to remember). My question is positive though because I want to find out when can I start ttc again!!(I have another scan on tues so I guess the dr may be able to tell us more then too - they were useless at volunteering info last time unless I asked specific questions).

JanieLovesCake Sat 16-Mar-13 13:03:50

Hello, hope you're all having a good weekend! And hi to the newbies, sending hugs.

Oh and I'm not in Australia!!! I was just trying to convince myself it was ok to poas on Thursday night heehee!! I'm in Ireland and its st Patrick's weekend...going to have to come up with some good excuses not to drink tomorrow at the pub, also have a hen next weekend so I have no idea what ill do about the booze. I'd rather not tell anyone as its's too soon but NI idea how I'll get away with it for fri and Saturday HELP!

alyant79 Sat 16-Mar-13 13:15:31

birds I think average is 2 weeks. For me it was more like 17 days

fod27 Sat 16-Mar-13 14:04:00

Well done garden!!!!

Floweroct Sat 16-Mar-13 14:11:04

birds I'm not sure I'm afraid I didn't start bleeding naturally even after nearly 13 weeks so had to have erpc but I think it can vary but around 2 weeks might be average. Hope it stops soon!

fod27 Sat 16-Mar-13 14:20:26

Can I start trying from a faint line on the test? Or should I pleasure him first to get a fresh batch for a stronger line? Sorry tmi I know!

JanieLovesCake Sat 16-Mar-13 14:22:08

yay garden yippeeee!!!! sorry i only saw your earlier post about your line! it's funny, i think i'm a little in disbelief as i sometimes forget that i got a bfp and then all of a sudden remember and have to pinch myself.

hey birds i think 2 weeks is about the average although some people bleed less or more. i hope it stops soon so that you can look ahead x

Lucky13ForBaby Sat 16-Mar-13 15:36:56

grin garden

BirdsDoIt Sat 16-Mar-13 15:42:21

Thanks ladies, that's really helpful. About a week to go in that case. in the meantime I've just done a food shop and bought myself lots of forbidden-pg goodies - may as well enjoy the perks I reckon! Mmm wine and camembert x

Thunderbuns Sat 16-Mar-13 16:08:45

Hi all!

pink is a frozen Kiev actually a potentially dangerous weapon? Be careful with that thing! But thanks for standing in for me buddy.

saggy. Mouthwash. Now.

fod, for me a faint line means nothing, so doesn't give an indication at all, it just suddenly goes dark. For other people it gets gradually darker til lh surge and then fainter again. Only way to know is to keep doing them at the same time each day and learn what happens. No harm in regular dtd though I reckon.

bairn yes I was thundercatsarego. I didn't hang around long there as it was just too hectic to keep up with!

fod27 Sat 16-Mar-13 17:35:21

Thanks for the info thunder xxx

Sapphireday Sat 16-Mar-13 17:52:10

Birds I'm with you on the frustrating wait to stop bleeding at the moment - I've had a week and a half of it so far so hopefully the end is in sight!

Hi ladies - fod I had a faint second line in the OPK on Thursday and then yesterday the second line was much darker than the control line.

Hope you are all having a good weekend - we are watching the rugby - it's nail biting!! X

icklemssunshine1 Sat 16-Mar-13 18:25:26

Hi all, hope we're all well. Just need a rant! Spent afternoon with pregnant friend who is due to have twins 10 days after what would have been my EDD. It's only been 2 weeks & 3 days since ERPC & it's almost like my MMC never happened. Had to listen to how much she's tired, how sick she's feeling & it's twice as bad this time. Poor you I thought! Then felt like a bitch as would never want her to go through this. God I hope AF comes soon, then I can start tracking & hopefully get my BFP (or even better get my BFP BEFORE AF!!).

Rant over.


Bakingtins Sat 16-Mar-13 18:48:21

Ickle your friend is Bang. Out. Of. Order. Any pregnancy related moaning around someone who has recently miscarried should carry an immediate sentence of death by frozen chicken kiev. I wouldn't have been able to resist telling her to be bloody grateful and shut the F up. But then I'm an embittered old bag.

JanieLovesCake Sat 16-Mar-13 19:18:43

Oh I ickle that's do bloody insensitive. I would've got up and left and bitch slapped her on the way out. I'm so sorry she made you feel like that. Definitely a case for the Kiev.

alyant79 Sat 16-Mar-13 19:19:26

With you bakingtins. Some people need to learn some tact.

Also with you sapphire and birds. Stupid bleeding. Even more annoying that this is second time in 4 weeks. Feel like I've been bleeding forever sad heading overseas on Tuesday and think ill dtd Monday night regardless of bleeding status. Want to store up some sperm just in case!
You know heaps of animals can store sperm for years and use it when needed. Wish we could do that

icklemssunshine1 Sat 16-Mar-13 19:47:49

Ladies you have most certainly cheered me up (that & the huge glass of Pinot in my hand)! Has anyone else found that people around you just seem to have "forgotten"? That's including family members!

Alyant I know what you mean! When I was a teenager I was so scared of getting pregnant, fearing any episode of unprotected sex would equal a pregnancy. How I wish it were that easy!!

SaggyOldClothCatpuss Sat 16-Mar-13 21:09:53

Right, TMI time.
For the last couple of days I've had not spotting exactly, more either brown discharge, I'm assuming old blood, or orangey reddish new blood on 'thorough' wiping! MC was 6 weeks ago, and I e had AF since, am roughly mid cycle right now. Anyone else had random stuff like this? I know it's still early days but its bugging me.

LittleBairn Sat 16-Mar-13 21:48:33

ikkle hug for you it so so temping to say something but then it's made out it we are the ones in the wrong being over sensitive.
I actually had a friend Moan about being pregnant and how she would be happy for the baby to come early, just weeks after I lost my DS which she knew about. I had to come home for. Bit of a weep, even DH didn't get how much it upset me.

As the child of teenage parents I was super cautious too to the point of 'saving' myself o was seriously worried about getting pregnant top young. The irony!
I actually feel bit embarrassed when surrounded by my family they think I've left of really late to start a family, I'm only 28!

fod I have no idea but PMSL.

I feel bad for my poor DH his one great pleasure in life is hot baths all weekend, but he's banned during the week of TTC each month. Amd he's also not taking medication that he could do with at the moment but he refuses too until we have a baby in our arms.

LittleBairn Sat 16-Mar-13 21:51:01

saggy I had that a few times in the first 8 weeks after my miscarriage, I viewed it as my body taking the time to settle down.

SaggyOldClothCatpuss Sat 16-Mar-13 22:01:19

That's good to know. Wish it would piss off though.

fod27 Sat 16-Mar-13 22:06:58

saggy it was only the other day I was saying the exact same thing...brown discharge...not enough to need a pad, but use one anyway as it would wreck your good knickers blush
ick it's the same here, people either want you break down emotionally or they've moved passed the "oh how awful" and "have you heard?" Stage so of course we should have! Even my mother pointed out a tiny newborn at a restaurant the other day to tell my how tiny she thought it was...along with my brother and partner...all I could think is "are you for frickin real?!" Only last week a student brought her toddler in (she's a old student and isn't aware of my circumstance) so I did the PC thing and commented on how lovely he was and cooed etc my colleague who was with me after the fact said "are you ok? Don't lie to me, you looked really uncomfortable but I thought you handled it really well"

It sucks when people so far detached from your situation have more empathy than the ones you should be able to lean and rely on

However.........we are all guna get well shagged up and preggers!!!! So it's all part of the posifrickintive journey

IBelieveInPink Sat 16-Mar-13 22:16:59

Definitely remember spotting on and off after mc #. Like you say, annoying!

But.... (dare I say it) implantation bleed? You say mid cycle, how mid are we talking?

Yy to people being insensitive!!!!! Even especially the ones that know. No I don't effing want to know about your sisters husbands sisters baby and how she doesn't deserve it, but fell pregnant soooo easily. Chuff off.

BumpKitty Sat 16-Mar-13 22:17:20

birds everyone is different but your dates are similar to mine. I started bleeding day before my 12 wk scan but empty sack measured about 6 weeks. I waited for a natural mc and had to get scanned every 7 to 10 days, after 4 weeks the scan was still showing it wasn't all out so I then went for medical management, this didn't work and I ended up having an ERPC. Because that had all taken so long my period came back 3 weeks after the ERPC and I got pg 2 months after that.
If the same happened again I would go for ERPC much earlier. I hope you are sorted much quicker xx

BirdsDoIt Sat 16-Mar-13 22:19:19

Oh ickle and fod that kind of crappy tactlessness is so out of order! May chicken kievs (very hard frozen ones) rain down on them! How can people be so completely insensitive?? It boggles the mind. Hasn't happened to me yet because it's too recent history but I'm sure it will and I'm not looking forward to it... Can we reserve frozen kievs for offenders and fish for ourselves?

sapphire glad I have company - it's so frustrating isn't it - this reminder of what's happening when what you really want to do is move on. Plus after a couple of glasses of wine I'm rather fancying dtd but it's all just too icky to contemplate (sorry, tmi, and too much wine - tmw?) x

BirdsDoIt Sat 16-Mar-13 22:23:59

bumpkitty thanks, that's good to know - will bear that in mind when talking to doctor. And yay to getting pg 2 months later...x

SaggyOldClothCatpuss Sat 16-Mar-13 22:27:39

CD14 pink. No chance! grin

shellshock7 Sat 16-Mar-13 22:43:00

pink sorry to do this to you but I'm not gonna POAdigitalS has been so hard for DS I couldn't face bad news tomorrow so will wait a bit...good luck to you tho smile

IBelieveInPink Sat 16-Mar-13 22:51:33

Oh bless shell don't be worrying about that! I'm sorry to hear you having such a hard time. sad hope mini shell is doing better now.

I also had second thoughts earlier, but only cos I so freakin scared, not for any real reason of substance.

Hope you are okay x

shellshock7 Sat 16-Mar-13 22:54:22

It's just awful he is so poorly missed the whole day really...not that his birthday matters in the grand scheme of things but its not helping us feel less upset for him!

I know what you mean abt bein scared generally, me too, I'm a positive person generally tho so I think I get scared cos I don't wanna face the reality of it being bad if that makes any kind of sense?! confused

IBelieveInPink Sat 16-Mar-13 23:11:04

Makes complete sense. I am also usually v positive, but after the last 2 have just kinda had the positivity knocked out of me now. Maybe tomorrow will be much better and I'll get a bit of it back. Posifrickentivity!!

GardenWorm Sun 17-Mar-13 06:54:35

Get well very soon mini shell

Waiting (impatiently) for IBIP poas digi.....fingers tapping irritatingly.

IBelieveInPink Sun 17-Mar-13 07:03:38

3+!!! Aaaaaaaajhhhhhhhhhh! smile

GardenWorm Sun 17-Mar-13 07:19:00


shellshock7 Sun 17-Mar-13 07:27:06


How does this fit in with you're previous PGs? Are you further than before now? How many DPO? smile

IBelieveInPink Sun 17-Mar-13 07:30:23

Sorry, that was all I could manage before running round the house! Chilled out a little now smile

Pg1 Im not sure. I got to 8 weeks but bub stopped growing at 5.
Pg2 I tested at this point (5 wks today) and was gettin 1-2. So i am past hurdle 1!
At least this one has stuck. Time will tell if it keeps going, but for now, v happy. give it maybe 2 days before I start panicking again!

shellshock7 Sun 17-Mar-13 07:31:25

Brilliant so that's one milestone passed smile Are you gonna have a scan at 8 weeks?

IBelieveInPink Sun 17-Mar-13 07:38:16

Yes I am. Most definitely! If I can hold out til 8 weeks that would be a bonus! Just agreed with DH, although he doesn't really like the idea pf paying for it, he gets I need one to keep my sanity. so will register now, hopefully get a booking in appointment in next couple of week and if they won't send me for a scan will just pay for one.

IBelieveInPink Sun 17-Mar-13 07:38:49

How is mini shell today?

jmf294 Sun 17-Mar-13 07:42:29

Yeah for 3+ pink- that's good news!!

I'm cd 12 and no smiley face yet- used to have 28 day cycles so hoping it still might happen this cycle.
Hate all this!!

shellshock7 Sun 17-Mar-13 07:46:22

My MMC showed baby stopped growing at 8 weeks so that's when I had my scan with DS....had to pay tho! We don't see MW here till 12 week scan, you have a mammoth 2 hour booking in appt so will have to ask GP if I can have a reassurance scan now I've had 2MCs?

DS is the same, gonna try and get him in some milk today tho, thanks for asking smile

BirdsDoIt Sun 17-Mar-13 07:48:54

Yaaay congrats pink!!

& hope mini shell is feeling better soon - hope you have a happier day today shell

IBelieveInPink Sun 17-Mar-13 07:50:47

Yeah I am hoping the 2 mc card might mean I get something this time, got to be A silver lining somewhere no?
Oh bless, hope he perks up after a feed.

Jmf- crossing fingers for a pos opk soon, it's so annoying waiting isn't it.

shellshock7 Sun 17-Mar-13 08:06:18

I did the digital, you made me do it pink grin 2-3 which fits as it will be 3 weeks since ovulation tomorrow or Tuesday so if I do another next weekend ill get the 3+ hopefully PHEW grin

Zeuxippe Sun 17-Mar-13 08:06:59

pink 3+ isn't that the best result! So pleased for you grin

shell I hope little shell gets better very soon

Started opks today! No smiley but feels good to be back in the ttc game.

Zeuxippe Sun 17-Mar-13 08:07:57

Congrats shell !!

IBelieveInPink Sun 17-Mar-13 08:26:59

Yay shell! Great news. At least a little thing to make you smile today. smile brilliant smile

Bakingtins Sun 17-Mar-13 08:57:47

smile for good test results for IBIP and shell.

How is minishell today?

icklemssunshine1 Sun 17-Mar-13 09:20:52

Fantastic news ladies! smile

Really hoping the BFP's hold out til when it's my turn smile

Thunderbuns Sun 17-Mar-13 09:40:58

Yay shell and pink!

IBelieveInPink Sun 17-Mar-13 09:43:39

So, who is due to poas this Friday? Any symptom spotting going on?

JanieLovesCake Sun 17-Mar-13 09:44:14

yay shell and pink!! super news!!! And i really hope mini shell omes round today x

Happy St. Patrick's Day everyone!! x

Thunderbuns Sun 17-Mar-13 09:51:31

My af is due around Friday pink, too grumpy to even plan to test!

Thunderbuns Sun 17-Mar-13 09:51:51

(I have a hangover- is that a symptom?)

(Have just changed name back as well)

(Am talking to myself in brackets- clearly lost the plot)

IBelieveInPink Sun 17-Mar-13 10:01:56

Haha thunder you make me chuckle. Good work on the hangover smile and talking to yourself is a sign of genius is it not? smile

He's i believe it is pink. <Nods to self>

He's??? I meant yes.

yorkiebilb Sun 17-Mar-13 10:05:46

Hello all. Great news shell and pink!

shamrock to all!

<still muttering away in her own little world>

Hi yorkie, are you testing on fri?

Lucky13ForBaby Sun 17-Mar-13 10:30:59

Congrats shell and pink. I'm to chicken to do one. Did a First response and the line lighter than yest so am fretting another MC. Got the dr 2mor to ask for bloods. If I make it to Friday I may do a digital then!

Hey lucky when was/is af due?

SpanishLady Sun 17-Mar-13 10:34:49

Very good news Ibelieve and shell

Lucky I'm sure all is well but hope you get some reassurance this week

JanieLovesCake Sun 17-Mar-13 10:48:31

aw lucky, i hope everything is ok. would you not think of doing a digi sooner than friday? x

yorkiebilb Sun 17-Mar-13 11:06:15

I've had weird cycles since my mmc so I don't know if its going to be 24 or 29 so will probably hold off - I'm too chicken to test before AF is due.

And when is cd29?

yorkiebilb Sun 17-Mar-13 12:06:11

Cd 29 is 26th so still a way to go! It's not on a Friday though!

Hmmm do Friday testing is cd 25 or 32 for you?

I sense a potential system breaker. RED ALERT GUYS

yorkiebilb Sun 17-Mar-13 12:57:13

maybe I'll go for the later then! Would hate to abuse the system <face the wrath of thunders wet fish>

Anyone else testing soon? thunder where are you in your cycle? I know you said you think you're out this month and it's going to take your body a while to adjust. Have you thought about posting a question on mumsnet and asking others who have been through the same about their experiences? Just a thought.

I am on cd24, approx 10dpo. Af due thurs/fri I think.
That's a really good idea about asking the question although I'm frightened of other MNers there's nothing that can actually be done about it. It would be interesting to learn a bit more though...,

yorkiebilb Sun 17-Mar-13 13:12:17

Stick to the conception section I reckon and I'm sure you'll be safe. I know what you mean about the rest - I would never dare post anything on AIBU!

I did it yorkie!

<ducks and covers>

SpanishLady Sun 17-Mar-13 13:38:05

Agree posters on Aibu and bizarrely baby names can be vicious!

Lucky13ForBaby Sun 17-Mar-13 13:49:49

What's Aibu? blush

Af was due Thursday gone or there about. I am frightened of the digi only showing 1-2. Am protecting myself I guess!

JanieLovesCake Sun 17-Mar-13 13:57:24

lucky my dates are the same as yours and mine was showing 1-2 which is right for the dates x

yorkiebilb Sun 17-Mar-13 14:12:05

Good for you thunder. Hope you get some good responses.

AIBU is Am I Being Unreasonable. So you ask a question and wait for the reactions to come in. People are VERY opinionated on that thread and its not a good idea to post unless you're hard as nails and don't give a damn about what people think of you! It is fascinating to read though! smile

shellshock7 Sun 17-Mar-13 14:12:55

lucky sorry if I've got this wrong but do you know that the digital shows weeks from conception not LMP? So 1-2 weeks in a digital means 3-4 from your LMP...sorry if you know that already! smile

shellshock7 Sun 17-Mar-13 14:14:15

yorkie I'm a bit obsessed with AIBU, would never be brave enough to start my own post tho shock

yorkiebilb Sun 17-Mar-13 14:14:32

I've not read the baby names one though spanish how can anyone be horrible about someone's choice of baby name?

shellshock7 Sun 17-Mar-13 14:18:56

yorkie and why would you want to know what a stranger thought?! You wouldn't base that decision on what a group of people you don't know think?! And if they slagged off a name you loved it would justupset you, so I think it's a strange forum confused

IBelieveInPink Sun 17-Mar-13 14:32:43

<<scuttles off to have a read of aibu>>

yorkiebilb Sun 17-Mar-13 14:38:11

Agreed shell!

yorkiebilb Sun 17-Mar-13 14:59:10

thunder try the miscarriage section on body and soul - people seem much more responsive to one off questions on there. I've posted on there before.

ChocolateCremeEggBag Sun 17-Mar-13 15:19:43

AIBU = "Am I being unreasonable" - a very weird fight club type place at times. it's often a bit like the DailyMail online comments bit - I'm probably showing my naivety but often a bit shock at the comments.

I am in the middle of a mammoth ebay session today. Need to get rid of stuff before I can buy anything new (and need the proceeds).

Is anyone else feeling like they are in clothing paralysis? I want to by summer stuff but keep thinking "what if I get pg - won't fit into it" which is soooo stupid as I'll now not get upduffed for ages.

I guess I am needed distractions as only on CD5 - aggggggeeeeesss to wait until even sex festival starts never mind the POAS fest (I have 10 internet cheapies winging their way to me grin "POAS festival")

Adding myself to the list:
Alyant79 1 DD 1MMC - TTC cycle 0 BFP due 8th April
AmelieRose 0 DC, 1MC, TTC cycle 2
Booty: 0DC, 1MC (oct12), TTC cycle 3 - poas 15/03/12 eek
Camomile 0DC, 1MC, TTC cycle 0
ChocolateCremeEggBag 1DS, 1MC TTC cycle 4 - POAS Apr 10 (or 5 to fit with Friday rule)
Farmerwife 0DC 3MC 1Ep Cycle 1
Floweroct 0dc 1mmc cycle 1
Fod: 1DS 1DD 1MC TTC 0 cycle
Ickle:1 DD 1 MMC TTC Cycle 0
jmf294: 1DS, 1DD, 1MC, TTC Cycle 2 post MC
LittleBairn : 0DC, 1 MC, TTC Cycle 3 post MC
MrsSpencerReid 1DS 1MC cycle 0
Mummytothearkbuilder 1DS 1MC TTC cycle 0
SaggyOldClothCatpuss 1DS 1DD 1MC -TTC cycle 1 POAS March 29
Santa 1 DC 2 MCs TTC cycle 0 (i.e. before first AF after ERPC)
Thunderbuns 0DC, 1mmc, ttc cycle 4 post ERPC
Woot: 2MC TTC cycle 0 {???}
Zeu 1DD 1mc cycle 1 bfp due 11th April
Yorkiebilb 0dc, 1mmc TTC cycle 3 post

Bodicea: 0DC, 2MC, cycle 3 post erpc - BFP
BumpKitty: 1 DD 1MC - TTC cycle 3 - BFP
Janie: 0DC, 1MC (oct12), TTC cycle 3 - BFP
JBrd: 1 DS, 1 MC, cycle 1, BFP
Lucky13: 1DS 2MC, TTC cycle 5 post MC - BFP (Whispers quietly, stick baby)
Pink- 0dc, 2mc, cycle 1 following last mc BFP. hopefully due 17.11.13!
Shellshock7 2MCs 1 DS - TTC cycle 3 - BFP
SpanishLady: 1 DS, 1MC, TTC Cycle 0 - BFP (before first AF post MC

beansandraisons Sun 17-Mar-13 15:29:04

I have been lurking and thought I would stick my pennies worth in! I have one DS 30mths and had a MC in oct at 12/40 -complicated by the fact I was abroad at the time -grimmo. Had erpc when I got home. Am now (hopefully) 8/40 -hoorah smile . I am due to go on hols again in a fortnight and feel a sense of deja vu coming on -so am really keen on an early scan. I know a scan doesn't doesn't change what may still happen but last time it was pretty obvious things has stopped developing early on and I would just like to know that all is ok now! I'm a bit nervous of admitting this as it is naughty and some people may think 'tempting fate' but on Friday I phoned my GP and told him I have had some spotting (I haven't) and he is getting me a scan next week. Am I bad?

LittleBairn Sun 17-Mar-13 15:35:39

bean I can understand why you would do it but what would concern me is that resources are so stretched at many EPU that you could be taking an appointment that someone needs urgently.

beansandraisons Sun 17-Mar-13 15:37:32

I am bad blush

icklemssunshine1 Sun 17-Mar-13 16:20:30

No bean, totally understand. I had an early scan as DID have some spotting & at the scan was told everything was fine, measuring 6 weeks, heartbeat but large sac. Trouble was I knew I should have been 10 weeks, they said I must've for my dates wrong. 2 weeks later I still couldn't shake the nagging feeling so went to my GP and said I had further bleeding (I hadn't). This scan however showed the baby had died. If I hadn't have pushed for that I would've had to wait weeks for my dating scan so see where you're coming from. Hopefully your story will end happier than mine smile

Hi all, hi beans. Congrats on your bfp.

No answer to my question- yorkie or anyone, is it bad form to post exactly the same thing in two places?

yorkiebilb Sun 17-Mar-13 16:45:01

Sorry you haven't had a response yet. I wouldn't have thought so but not really up on mn etiquette - I say try it. If no one responds its because no one on there has any answers - nothing to do with you!

icklemssunshine1 Sun 17-Mar-13 16:45:20

Thunder, I'm a MN newbie (long time lurker) so not really too sure of the rules. I would be inclined to post with a little disclaimer at too that the post appears elsewhere. I'm sure peeps won't hold it against you as you're obviously anxious.

Thank you ladies, that makes sense. I might give it a bit more time and then try it there too. I don't mind it not being answered too much- like you say, it's not like it's personal!


Lucky13ForBaby Sun 17-Mar-13 16:55:36

Hi thunder. Am on my phone and can't find your question. What did you want to know if you don't mind repeating. Sorry.

It was just about finding out about hypothyroidism whilst ttc really. I just put it in conception. No biggy.

How are you doing lucky?

beansandraisons Sun 17-Mar-13 17:18:24

Thanks ickle, feeling more 'pregnant' this time so hopeful but just want to be able to go away slightly less anxious. Seen enough of foreign hospitals
Thunder -I'm a long term lurker too and no clue on etiquette!

Lucky13ForBaby Sun 17-Mar-13 17:50:57

I'm loosing my head slightly! Trying to keep calm! Sorry thunder I can't help with your question. Hope you get some answers elsewhere xxx

SaggyOldClothCatpuss Sun 17-Mar-13 18:52:08

Bugger etiquette, post another thread in Chat. If you want, add a note saying you also posted in conception, if you don't want to, don't! grin
Tut @ being frightened of other MNers! Sod the lot I them! I post where I like, don't say anything I wouldn't say in real life and if I ABU then fair enough. Generally I don't let the frothers and flamers get to me!
AIBU is ok as long as you are prepared to accept that you are being unreasonable and not just plough on in total denial!

Just saw your 'bump' lucky thank you so much. That's really sweet.

First response on there has not helped thunder morale! Maybe it was a bad idea after all!

lucky. You're doing well. Can you get yourself a nice cup of herbal and put some trash on the tv as a little indulgent moment?

SaggyOldClothCatpuss Sun 17-Mar-13 18:56:10

Anyway, my question of the day: OPK. When you ovulate, the line is dark. In the days after, does it fade over a few days, or just disappear all of a sudden?

I want to hang out in saggy's gang. She is tough and unafraid! (which my spellcheck tried to change to 'unsafe aid'. Erm?!

SaggyOldClothCatpuss Sun 17-Mar-13 18:58:30

Regarding the digital tests, apparently they can be several days out in either direction. Iirc it's up to 10 days out! So when it doesn't read what you think it should, you don't necessarily need to worry.

saggy it varies from person to person I think. They suggest stopping poaOPK after a positive because it gets really confusing! I think the only way to know what'll happen for you is to keep peeing and then compare over a number of cycles. which of course you won't be here long enough to do

I randomly poaOPK on day 25 or something and got a positive once hmm. I like the simple smiley face system!

ChocolateCremeEggBag Sun 17-Mar-13 19:00:18

Hi Beans - I totally understand why you want an early scan, especially when you'll be abroad at the same stage of your mc. Not going to say it's the right thing to tell a fib to get a scan, but you are not a bad person and you won't be the first or the last to do it. However if it gives you comfort to have the scan and therefore relaxes you - arguably that is a medical benefit of the scan. Hope it is good news

Thunder - if no one replies, try General Health but just add you've posted on other boards. Maybe worth trying that group as could be more people with Thyroid probs who aren't ttc-ing currently but can still advise?

SaggyOldClothCatpuss Sun 17-Mar-13 19:00:45

Lol Thunder I've been here for a while and I'm sociable in real life. Ill speak to anyone me! And given the fact that I can't keep a secret to save my life, I don't post anything I wouldn't in real life because loads of people know my NN! confused

SaggyOldClothCatpuss Sun 17-Mar-13 19:03:09

Thunder I haven't had a positive yet. The OPKS came in the post on CD13 and nothing's happened yet. There could have possibly have been the faintest of invisible lines on CD13, so I've got fingers crossed I've missed it.

SaggyOldClothCatpuss Sun 17-Mar-13 19:04:32

Post in Chat. It gets by far the most traffic.

Have they had no lines since you started sag? I always had a line, just a faint one until it suddenly went dark one night.

Arse, I knew it might take a while to get sorted re thyroid but I didnt realise I was looking down the barrel of a year. Damnit. I think I might hang about til af next week and then I'm not sure whether MN is the right place to be for a bit.

farmerwife Sun 17-Mar-13 19:15:44

beans you're not a bad person at all....sometimes the anxiety just gets too much. Now I have lost 4 and one was mmc I get automatic early scans but if not id be lying if i said i woudn't be tempted to do the same as you! Now all I need is the bfp!

SaggyOldClothCatpuss Sun 17-Mar-13 19:16:00

No line at all. The tests come up a bit streaky so I wonder if they are just crap.

Hmm streaky doesn't sound great tbh. Are they amazon ones? buy a cbdigiOPK!

SaggyOldClothCatpuss Sun 17-Mar-13 19:39:10

eBay. There is NO WAY I would spend that much money, and DP would think I'd lost the plot! He already thinks I'm a bit bonkers! I'm up and down like a roller coaster, and trying to do SMEP! The poor bloke looks like a chewed up rag! I'm trying really hard not to make him think I'm obsessed! obsessed? Moi?

alyant79 Sun 17-Mar-13 19:49:53

beans I thought about doing that last time and wish I had. My empty sac would have been picked up so much earlier.
Still naughty but fully understandable

thunder I don't know what response you got on that other thread but 1 year would totally suck. Perhaps that is worst case scenario?

jmf294 Sun 17-Mar-13 19:53:06

How many times is too many to do an OPK test?
Hangs head in shame- husband caught me and thinks I am mad-
I am getting a line that is getting darker.

Beans- I don't blame you for wanting the scan- hope all will be ok.

Hope you don't have to wait a year Thunder- who said that, seems a very long time.

Bakingtins Sun 17-Mar-13 20:20:50

Thunder this is second hand info but a v good friend had an overactive thryoid and had radioactive iodine in order to be able to TTC (the thyroid suppressing drugs are bad for baby) then because that makes you underactive was put on thyroxine. She had to wait a year after the radioactive treatment then each time she was pregnant had to have regular thyroid monitoring because her dose needed adjusting. Once it was sorted she had 2 normal pregnancies smile
I haven't seen the response about waiting a year, but the thyroid supplement drugs are very safe. When we use them in animals we expect them to be stable within a month of starting treatment!

MrsSpencerReid Sun 17-Mar-13 20:54:26

Thunder, pm me If you want I've been on most thyroid drugs and had radio active iodine treatment, off to read the rest of the posts!!

alyant79 Sun 17-Mar-13 22:04:10

Gotta question: tomorrow is 5 weeks post medical mc, 1 week post extra erpc. Today my boobs have been really sore - like when I was preggo. Anyone else had that?
What could it be? Think it could be ovulation symptom? I don't really know what those symptoms are except for ewcm.

Vocalista86 Sun 17-Mar-13 22:30:50

Hi ladies, new to the boards and time to say hi I think.

I found out at 13 weeks (New year's eve....) I had had a mmc at 7 weeks, then had managed mc which resulted in complications. It was awful but I had so few pregnancy symptoms I can look back and say that deep down I knew something wasn't right. So much so that when they told us at the scan I almost wasn't surprised. Month off work, and now cannot wait for my next BFP. We'd just started to tell everyone our good news too.

On my second cycle of TTC and AF due in 6 days, fingers crossed she never shows up...

I was so naive and thought it would happen straight away last month (as it did for a friend of mine who had had a similar exp.) but no such luck, and was devestated. Did a couple of tests 5/6 days before AF was due which was a waste of money! This month I have been slightly more relaxed about it, only slightly though and do not intend to test until 3/4 days late, so just over a week away now.

Good luck to all the ladies who are waiting to test at the mo.


Hi tins, how are you doing my lovely? Thank you for the info- I don't like the waiting around bit, that's my problem. Hope I respond as quickly as your animals and then I'm back in the game.

Thank you too, mrs, I may well drop you a line. I'm just firing out questions on the thread at the mo.

Hi vocal, so sorry about your mc, but you are very welcome to chat/rant/be scared here. I trust you have familiarised yourself with our Friday system?

fod27 Sun 17-Mar-13 23:22:32

Hi thunder both my mother and aunt have a under active yours over or under? I shall do some research for you (well mither them lots) so glad to see some good news on here too

Also we ttc last night however there was slight bleeding after...what should I do? Carry in regardless? Hold off or contact the dr?
(secretly hoping you tell me to ttc anyway....I know I'm impatient and naughty)

Vocalista86 Sun 17-Mar-13 23:46:03

Hi again, I didn't know about the Friday system but do now! This Friday I will be 1 day pre AF, too early to test? What do you recon?

Hi ladies!! Hope you all had good weekends - I haven't been on today and there has been so much to catch up on - I love a chatty thread!!

I need some advice as I am lying here trying to sleep and driving myself crazy!! So.......on Thursday I had a faint second line on the opk - I know it generally means negative but I summoned DH and we DTD, on Friday the line was darker than the control line (hooray!!) and we DTD, we also DTD on Saturday night and I thought we should on Sunday night too however it did not happen - we tried and tired and I used all my womanly charm (some of which I didn't know I had in me!!) but it didn't happen - have I missed the boat???? I am reading conflicting things all over the web and need some proper advice from lovely knowledgable mumsnetters xx

GardenWorm Mon 18-Mar-13 06:50:46

Mummy I don't think so, not dissimilar to me and I got a BFP x

Zeuxippe Mon 18-Mar-13 07:05:23

Hi mummy the positive opk means you're about to release an egg. They say the day after is the most important to dtd but sometimes ovulation is delayed. I would dtd again today/ tomorrow for good measure? Hope that helps.

alyant79 Mon 18-Mar-13 07:15:06

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! bfn! Bfn! Bfn finally!!!

Not to worry fod press on I say!

Welcome vocal. How about testing Friday with an ultra cheapie?

alyant79 Mon 18-Mar-13 07:19:09

Oooops I just danced around the house singing bfn bfn and woke up my DD sad

EvenIfYouSeeAPoppy Mon 18-Mar-13 07:27:13

Think it's time I joined you, if that's OK. Might only be in sporadically - not a huge MNer - but could do with being accompanied a bit on this journey.

I had a mc, then dc1, then 2 mcs in consecutive cycles, then dc2, then 4.5 years of largely calendar-method contraception, which brings us up to last spring, when I miscounted my days and got pg. Was shock but actually quite thrilled. Only to have a mmc, discovered at 9 weeks. I was so upset I think I was grieving for all four mcs at once. My gynae (I'm not in the UK) thought I should have tests. The genetic stuff was inconclusive but the blood tests shoeed up Factor V Leiden and something else I can't remember the name of - something you can usually balance out with increased folic acid. After waiting a few months just to stop feeling devastated and then to get the test results, we started ttc at the beginning of this year. I've always got pg immediately or almost immediately before, and now this is the third (arguably fourth, we took a risk before Christmas) cycle of nothing. Wondering whether my fertility has changed - I still have regular cycles etc., but I've just turned 36 and it's several years since I was last successfully pg - and thinking my next step, if it doesn't work this month, is monitoring ovulation.

I appreciate how phenomenally lucky I am to have my two dc but I always assumed, right from when dc2 was born, that another one would be coming along one day, and the idea that it might not happen is a hard one to get my head around. So hope I can pop on here and vent occasionally.

Good luck to all of us flowers

Bakingtins Mon 18-Mar-13 07:33:40

yay for BFNs when you want one, aly. Only BFPs from now on, please.

Mummy sounds ok to me, normally you ovulate in the 24 hours post LH surge and those swimmers can be active up to 5 days. I agree with Z that if you can DTD today I would, but all is by no means lost. Fingers crossed for a week on Friday!

Hi to Newbies - the thread is moving so fast at the mo I can't keep up.

thunder have you spoken to your doctor about when you can TTC? I would get yourself retested a month after starting and then any dose adjustments needed are not taking too long. My friend's experience is it needs to be you driving the process and hassling for tests.

I'm ok most of the time. Have told the practice manager and the partners at work but said I don't want to talk about it. My boss took me aside yesterday and said "I'm not going to labour it (un fortunate choice of words) I just wanted to say I'm sorry" and that was enough for the tears to come. In some ways I feel like I ought to feel worse - like it's disloyal to the baby that I've coped so well this time when I was such a mess after the first couple. Partly because I've stopped assuming a BFP will result in a baby sad

However, onwards and upwards, right? I just need to get to first AF then can have some of the tests done about 6 weeks post MC.

Thanks ladies - will try and dtd tonight and keep my fingers crossed!!

I am dreading my AF - I feel like its going to be a huge reminder of the miscarriage so would love a BFP instead of horrible AF!! Xx

LittleBairn Mon 18-Mar-13 08:51:17

baking please don't feel guilty about not equating BFP = Baby I'm betting many of us on this thread no longer do that. I had such a late miscarriage I'm not even sure if I will believe I'm really having a baby until it's safe in my arms breathing.

Does anyone else use the clear blue monitor I'm a bit confused it started to tell me I was on high fertility on Day 7, which didn't surprise me as I'm sure I ovulate early. But it's now Day 11 and I'm still getting High Fertility but no ovulation indication.
Aren't you supposed to ovulate after 2 days of high reading or can some people ovulate a lot later?
I've looked at all my sticks Day 8 stick seems to be a little darker than the rest. confused
I do have cheapie OVulation test strips I was wondering if I should use them too but worried I might then end up even more confused.

Morning all. Hi poppy, and welcome. Sorry to hear about your story, You're very welcome to vent on here.

tins, she hasn't told us not to ttc! Just said to come straight in if we get a bfp. Thank you though, I think you're right, I'll see if I can get retested after a month.

littleb it was my understanding that cb generally gives you around five 'high' readings, then a couple of 'peak'? I never used one- don't even know what they look like!- but I think the peak reading is what coincides with a positive normal opk, the highs just give you a warning that it's coming?

katerinaemalina Mon 18-Mar-13 09:11:04

I also equate bfp with not a lot as the two I have had have resulted in mc. Am feeling a bit scared as now 30 days in. I have long cycles (I think can't really tell as 2/4 have been mc ha) but around 35 days so in the constantly checking pants stage. Don't feel anything really. Had sore nipples but fine now, some back ache and mild cramp but as we all know could be AF could be preggo. Am going slightly crazy as half of me thinks be better to just get AF than BFP followed by another mc. bangs head against wall me and dh had agreed not to test till 40 days in so another 10 days if AF not shown. May have gone mad by then lol

LittleBairn Mon 18-Mar-13 09:32:23

thank you thunder that's helped clear up some confusion, I've looked out the instruction book but is rather vague.

alyant79 Mon 18-Mar-13 09:44:37

sorry for the bfn excitement, it's just taken 5 long weeks...

tins i also cried when my boss told me that he was sorry to hear my news sad
I had been doing so well!

yorkiebilb Mon 18-Mar-13 09:56:00

thunder hope you're okay and hope I didn't cause more upset for you by suggesting you ask on mn. Just thought that it would good to talk to others who had been through a similar thing.

baking hope you're doing okay.

things are pretty stressful here. Went to the hospital yesterday to visit DH's Dad as they think he will die in a couple of days. DH is obv devastated. He said to me yesterday I really hope you get a BFP this cycle as not sure i can take anymore. I don't think it's going to happen this cycle as I already feel my usual pre AF crampy but I didn't have the heart to tell him that hmm

katerinaemalina Mon 18-Mar-13 10:24:42

Yorkie that sucks. Hugs to you. Stressful times xx

Hi yorkie, don't worry- information is power and it was a great idea to learn about others' experiences even though it means learning that I'm a bit screwed re ttc for now. Have had a little meltdown this morning, but I'd course this too will pass.

I'm so sorry to hear about how poorly your FIL is. What a horrible hard time for you all, sending thoughts and strength to you and his family. I can understand that he could do with a bfp as positive news at the time, fx it happens for you- if not now then very soon x

alyant79 Mon 18-Mar-13 11:05:33

katerina if you can hold out another ten days you are a stronger woman than me! best of luck.

yorkie that's really poo. Hope there are lots of hugs all round.

smile for your bfn aly!

WillSantaComeAgain Mon 18-Mar-13 12:16:30

Hi all,

thunder - I read your thread too (partly because i wonder if I have an underactive thyroid - if I have another MC, it will be the first thing I ask to be tested for) and thought there were some quite positive stories on there. It sounded to me like you just have to get the levels of medication right, and to do that, you just need to push and push for them to test. But I know it must be really frustrating.

I think part of our collective obsession bordering on hysteria enthusiasm with regards to ttc is because it feels like it is the only way of us regaining a measure of control over our reproductive systems. So to loose the ability to even ttc takes away one of our crutches. (I hope i'm not offending people by saying this - maybe that's just how it is for me).

baking I don't think its disloyal to have "coped" after this mc. It is really hard to equate bfp with a successful pg, particularly when you've had more than one mc. We are given many different ways to cope with the downs in life and whichever one we use isn't wrong or bad, otherwise we wouldn't have been given that coping strategy (IFYSWIM - its a bit philosophical for a Monday morning).

Does anyone else ever feel conflicted about their feelings ttc / bfp prospects? I'm POAS this Friday and to be really really honest, at the moment I'm not sure I want a bfp? shock. In the whole raft of coping measures that I've come up with, (see above) of them is to plan things to do that I can't do when pg. A lot of the things that I've planned take mental, physical or financial effort and as I've now had two mcs in the space of six months, I'm not sure I've got the energy to re-plan my life again. The only thing that keeps me going is that huge aching void in me that desparately wants another baby. (Can't I just be handed it instead of having to go through the whole trauma and stress that is pg). I'm probably not explaining myself very well - I think it boils down to I really really want a baby. I really really don't want to be pregnant.

shellshock7 Mon 18-Mar-13 12:41:02

santa defo agree re TTC I'm sure I think is it as a game, POAS too early symptom spotting etc. takes
away from how sad you are and like you say it's one element you can control.....I kind of agree with your other point but would like to fast forward to post successful 20 week scan and also fast forward thru labour as once the worry gets less it is enjoyable smile

Hi santa, yes you are very right. Both about some of the success stories on there (I am more heartened now more people have posted!) but also I really agree about trying to take control. I don't know if anyone else does this but I feel like I'm putting SO much pressure on myself too. It doesn't help being surrounded by friends with children and babies. I know we should never compare ourselves to others (I wouldn't want to have the rest of the life of these people but conveniently covet just the parts of their life that I want to covet).

I think being uncertain about wanting a bfp is a good place to be actually. There are positives for you whatever happens on Friday (also negatives of course but I'm concentrating on the optimism!) so you can be calm until you know what the answer is?

Hi shell thanks

DIYandEatCake Mon 18-Mar-13 13:03:42

Hello again everyone, been away for a bit as have been trying to think of other things as have been feeling pretty low after my bfn which I was sure was going to be a bfp. Feeling a bit more sane now.

Massive congratulations to all those who got lucky this month, just trying to catch up now but have 20 pages to read grin

baking it's lovely to see you again (in the circumstances, wish you didn't have to be too). And thunder I hope your medication gets things sorted out quickly. santa I feel a bit like you, desperate to be pg but know I will worry if/when I am. And we have fertility issues so know realistically it is likely to take a long time, and that feels daunting.

CoffeeandCremeEggs Mon 18-Mar-13 13:06:43

Hey you lot! Wow, you've been chatty recently... I've been absent for ages because I have been very much Not Thinking About It. I have had a completely pressure free cycle and have no idea when I o'd, when we dtd, anything.

santa I know what you mean, I'm definitely feeling conflicted right now. I was pretty shocked to be pg last time and had to do quite a bit of adjusting to the idea and planning how I was going to deal with it. Then... well, then 13 week mmc, weeping, general misery. After a couple of cycles of desperately wanting to be pg again immediately, I threw myself back into work and social stuff and now everything's going well again, career progressing nicely and so forth, and I've started to think do I want this enough to deal with what I know would be 9 months of utter terror? I don't know how I'd cope if I had to have another ERPC.

Which probably explains fairly well why I'm not even sure if I'd describe myself as having "tried" this month, just good old ntnp, and weirdly convinced that this will never work anyway.

Gosh. That ended up quite downbeat. Ignore me! Posifrickintivity!

SpanishLady Mon 18-Mar-13 13:20:52

it cant help if you people around you who dont have any fears about their pregnancies (though that said how do you know what is really in people's minds) - I consider myself lucky - I have a child after all (though Poppy - welcome by the way -I can understand how already having children doesnt mean you cant feel very sad about subsequent MCs / wait to get pregnant again) but I have 2 friends who cant get a break when it comes to motherhood and I cant help feeling its quite horrible how random fertility is....

watching comic relief the other day (about programmes they sponsor in the UK) I wanted to scream with rage at how there are children in this country who are abused, ignored and are not cherished at all when there are people who would never do that to children.

Ive found my MC has just exhausted me emotionally. I dont like how its made me a little mean - eg have not wished some people I know in RL the best with all my heart about their pregnancies. Thats worries and saddens me - Im a little harder, unkinder because of it and I know of course I dont really wish any harm to anyone but I have this kind of self-righteousness - like certain people shoudl be humbler about their ability to have a baby.

not nice and hope it stops soon. I disgust myself.

katerinaemalina Mon 18-Mar-13 13:41:20

Spanish lady these thoughts are normal. I have them. I am actually hating myself for the pure jealousy and bitterness I feel at the moment to friends/people I know who got preg first time and have sailed. Even more so when they come out with insensitive or non thought through comments. I don't want to feel like this as it only hurts yourself. The positive thing I try to take away from it is I hope it will help me be more understanding and supportive to others in a similar position - big group hug! - and I hope it makes you a bit stronger. There is nothing else we can do but keep trying and crossing fingers

Bakingtins Mon 18-Mar-13 14:08:30

Little Bairn the CBFM gives you a high as soon as it detects oestrogen from a maturing follicle, then continues to read high until it detects LH when it gives you a peak for 2 days then back to low again.
I have used it successfully twice then last time I was TTc last summer it was never giving me a peak so just continued to say 'high' for 20 sticks (ouch £££). Since I managed to get pregnant one of those cycles I was obviously ovulating but it missed the LH for some reason.
It also 'learns' your cycle so once it knows when you ovulated this time it will ask you to start POAS closer to that day.

I feel like it too spanish, and probably in a lot worse way than you!
It's crap because on top of your own suffering you then start beating yourself up for being a bitch unsupportive.

I made a decision one day about this though. I decided it must be a very natural reaction and that hating myself for it certainly didnt help or make any difference. So while I try not to show it in public, behind closed doors I just let it happen. It's just life and I reckon we're not horrible or disgusting people, we're just dealing with a lot of shit.

Rant over.

For now...

Thyroid update: I have armed myself with some 'real' information (eg written by the nhs themselves) and have made a telephone appt for next week. Empowered!

SaggyOldClothCatpuss Mon 18-Mar-13 14:18:01

I totally agree with everything that has been said. I want this so much, and I am terrified! I need to be PG, but like you say, its 9 months of worry.
I also hate myself for being jealous of PG people. Especially the ones who have never MC and dont worry about anything. I tell myself I should be happpy for them because they dont know the heartbreak, but theres still a little bit of me that hates them.
You lot keep me going. Making me laugh, making me cry, just listening to you and knowing you listen to me. I dont know what I would have done in the past weeks without MN.

SaggyOldClothCatpuss Mon 18-Mar-13 14:22:58

On a happier note, I have just POAOPK. There was the faintest of faint lines. Ive just had a read around, and a good look at my app, and given my first few days of AF were very light, I could be a few days out. Anyway, its positive that there is even a faint line, lets hope it gets stronger. FX.

shellshock7 Mon 18-Mar-13 14:29:13

When I had my first MMC my best friend was PG with her first and was 4 weeks ahead of me...we had talked abt nothing else so it was so hard when I lost it.

I didn't talk to her for abt two weeks, just by text and when I did I just explained how I felt, that I was still so happy for her but so sad for me...we both knew then how to handle it going maybe it is worth telling people how it is making you feel and then hopefully they will respect your feelings?

Oh shell that's so hard- you poor thing. It must be even worse having the visual reminder of where you would've been just by looking at her. A very good approach though I think.

Good news on the line saggy, here's hoping the positive cones your way soon. I meant to say- I think it was you saying cbdigiOPK opk too expensive? (sorry if not!). I use 3 sticks a month now as I start testing on day 10 and have got smiley on cd 12 or 13. So not too pricey. Helps that I'm pretty regular though I guess.

shellshock7 Mon 18-Mar-13 14:40:28

Thankfully I got PG with DS 3m later so it could have been a lot worse, she was very considerate tho, some of things people have had said to them on here are shocking!

JBrd Mon 18-Mar-13 15:46:25

Wow, this thread moves fast! Been away over the weekend, and come back to, what, over 200 posts to read up on?!? Blimey...

I can so relate to the feeling of not being happy for other pg people. I was quite shocked how after my mc I just did not want to hear from anyone about being pg. It seems to have calmed down in the last few weeks, though, up to the point that I now feel able to visit a friend next week who's had a baby a few weeks ago.

Went to the GP this morning, to get a consultant referral. Hoping that the (female) GP will be a bit more on the spot with it all, she seemed at least to understand why I am so anxious to have it marked urgent. She also reassured me about taking baby aspirin, as in 'I should probably say not to take it, but if it was me, I would' which I thought was lovely! So at least the ball is rolling...
Then went and put my name down to get a booking appointment with the midwives arranged - it's very roundabout here, you go to the childrens' centre, where they take your details and add them to a list. The community midwives then come in regularly and get that list, and then they will call you to arrange the appointment... Rather than me calling them directly to get an appointment booked - what's wrong with that?!?

Sorry for not name-checking, I'm at work.

LittleBairn Mon 18-Mar-13 15:47:51

baking thanks for the info? Agree it's ouch the cost of buying new sticks! But it's worth knowing I'm at least getting a surge.
How many cycles did it take you to get a BFP?

saggy I haven't so far felt jealous but I must admit to being having uncharitable thoughts when I see a heavily pregnant women, wondering if she realises who amazingly lucky she is to be carrying her child.
I feel sad that I lost a bit of pregnacy 'innocents' that loosing Noah means I will never have the same faith in my body again.

My cousin was only 3 weeks ahead of me and is due sometime next month, she is also having a boy. We were once very close but have lost touch over the years so I might get away with just postin a present.
Mostly I feel a bit awkward at the idea of everyone 'watching' me to see how I react, the one thing that I didn't expect about loosing a baby was the amount of emotional vampirism that goes on!

LittleBairn Mon 18-Mar-13 15:49:48

Oops no idea where the ? came from that was meant to be a .

SpanishLady Mon 18-Mar-13 16:37:15

thank you for the replies I was worried I would get shouted at as know my feelings are pretty horrible but glad I dont come across as some kind of monster.

If it was one of my very close friends/known forever I could be completely honest but with recent friends (eg wives of my DH's close friends so I have to see them/get on but didnt choose them as friends myself if you see what I mean) I dont feel I can - and also what can be done? Should a new mother have to make allowances for me?

I told a friend I was pregnant the other day - I hadnt meant to but she told me that another friend is pregnant (due a few weeks after I was due with the baby I lost) and I could tell she was uncomfortable telling me and then kept saying 'you'll have another baby try not to stress' - I couldnt stand the thought of people pitying me so I told her there was no need to worry as guess what Im already pregnant again - but I felt so foolish afterwards - I didnt want to tell anyone until after the scan this time and I did out of some kind of weird pride or imagined whisperings behind my back...mental!

anyway at least we know we are just reacting because of sadness and I imagine none of us would ever by word or deed act on those feelings. Its enough to understand them I think.

sorry everyone I have been a bit blue and brought down the thread abit.

So, anyone symptom spotting??? and who again is poas on Friday?

WillSantaComeAgain Mon 18-Mar-13 16:39:08

I know exactly what you all mean as well about other pg women, and then feeling doubly bad because you feel like a bitch at the same time. While I was having my ERPC, my friend was in the same hospital giving birth upstairs. That sucked. hope she's finding it really hard with two under two

I love this thread - its so nice to hear that all my rambling, incoherent thoughts are shared by others, so I think it must be normal to feel the way we do.

I agree that the whole process has made me a bit meaner. But I like to think its also made me more sympathetic to the emotions of others and stronger. And I don't think the meaness/bitterness/jealousy is a true character trait showing through - its just because we're all hurting.

SaggyOldClothCatpuss Mon 18-Mar-13 16:39:11

JBrd are you taking the aspirin for a specific reason, or just in case?

WillSantaComeAgain Mon 18-Mar-13 16:40:28

x-posts with spanish

I also dread the pity. Sympathy, kindness etc, yes, but not pity.

JBrd Mon 18-Mar-13 16:48:30

Saggy It's because of a combination of reasons - my age (41), my recent mc, and then my medical history - I had a pulmonary embolism last year, so now I'm worrying about underlying unrecognised clotting issues... Which could contribute to miscarriage...

Baby aspirin has been recommended for the over 40s with a mc history, some say take while ttc (which I didn't), some say start as soon as you get your BFP, opinions are divided.
I've just had blood taken last week (before I had my BFP) to have some more detailed test done.

Because of the PE, I will have to take heparin/clexane during my pregnancy, so until I see the consultant haematologist, I will take the aspirin.
It's one of those things where you'll get a different answer every time you ask.

EvenIfYouSeeAPoppy Mon 18-Mar-13 17:28:57

Wow, this thread really does move fast!
Thanks for the welcome.

I think there's a degree of innocence (if that's the right expression) you lose after a mc, wrt pregnancy in general and your own conceptions in particular. When I got pregnant with my children, one after one mc and the second after a further two, a large part of the emotion was 'oh feck'. A lot of fear, a lot of 'I can't do this'. With dc2 I was in denial for two weeks - I even didn't test - even though I was late and I knew.

Miscarriage is so cruel and implacable, so damn miserable to go through and so hard to name and mourn the loss (not helped by all the 'perhaps it was for the best' and 'mother nature knows what she's doing' and 'oh, 40y ago you would have had to miss two periods before you'd even be considered pregnant' angry angry angry) that I think envy of those who seem to, or actually do, sail through is inevitable, just human. I'm struggling with it a bit myself, tbh.

ChocolateCremeEggBag Mon 18-Mar-13 18:49:32

Hi little bairn I have a CBFM, I got my BFP for DS with the first month of using it, have had 2 cycles this time, starting cycle 3 now (CD5)
I found the first time I used it, the high came early but I did get a peak after about 5-6 days. Pretty sure that it also remembers your levels of the hormones so gets more accurate as you go on.

I agree, MC changes your whole perspective on pregnancy - wouldn't wish it on anyone, but it would be an idea for it to be less of a taboo subject so that people could be a little less unwittingly tactless/insensitive.

I have now got Pre-seed (non sperm killing lube) at the ready, extra sticks bought. Anything else? Any need for extra Folic acid just to be of safe side?

Floweroct Mon 18-Mar-13 18:59:31

We are moving fast!

I agree with the feeling bad about other pregnant people it can be so hard! But think its only natural. I wish it wasn't so taboo would make it much easier for everyone to know how to act.

So I have a dilemma do I poas this Friday at cd25 or do I wait until next Friday at cd32? I don't think I ovd until around cd17 so this fri is probably too early but next Friday seems so long away!!! Will no doubt change my mind a number of times! Anyone poas this Friday?

katerinaemalina Mon 18-Mar-13 19:26:52

I hate poas. Is that normal? Actually makes me feel ill lol hence I'm now all for waiting though know how excruciating it is

MrsSpencerReid Mon 18-Mar-13 20:43:26

Sorry I'm not replying to people but I'm feeling a bit sad today, should have had my 12w scan tomorrow, I'm on d24 of what used to be a 28d cycle, I haven't ovulated and i go back to work on Monday, feeling a bit sorry for myself. Hope everyone is planning some fun this eve! OH has also got a bit of performance anxietyhmm ugh, moan over, as you were smile

LittleBairn Mon 18-Mar-13 20:50:14

chocolate that's what I've heard too it gets more accurate reading and plotting when to test. I'm really glad I bought it, even DH is pleased when originally he was cross that I spent the money on it thinking it was a con.

kate I try and leave it as late as possible now just because I quite like the idea that I could be pregnant the chance of a BFP rather than the heartbreak of a BFN.

Symptom spotting way way to early for any in me BUT I did have a moment after I got out the shower thinking "wow my boobs look nice..." blush something I only ever thought when pregnant.
But I KNOW it's just my mind playing tricks on me, I'm almost surprised I haven't had a phantom pregnancy.

LittleBairn Mon 18-Mar-13 20:52:32

MrsSpencer gosh I'm sorry I know how hard milestone days can be, be gentle with yourself.