TTC #2 and turning into a nut job!

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gemmeg Mon 18-Feb-13 07:13:21

Ladies, bring me back down to Earth before it's too late! I'm TTC #2 and its only the 2nd cycle and I'm already doing my own head in not to mention my OH.....we're not the kind of couple to have regular sex when not TTC (much to my disappointment sad) so it's a real effort for DS to, erm, pull his finger out as it were and DTD every other day. With DS1 I had no idea about CM and OPKs and just used an ovulation calendar for timing but this time round I'm in danger of falling into the OPK trap! I'm aware of my constant whittling and DH even said that he hopes I get pregnant this month so he doesn't have to listen to me begging for him to do it just one more time! Anyone in the same boat?

FelixCited Mon 18-Feb-13 07:20:34

Yes! But I do use opk (clearblue smiley face) and it has taken the pressure off doing it ALL the time ;-)
Month 3 for me and I go totally batty in the 2ww.
Symptom spotting counting down the days etc argh
But I don't talk about it with DP as I would drive him mad.. So it is my own private obsession ;)
Good luck

2beornot Mon 18-Feb-13 07:26:37

I'm in exactly the same boat. I'm having trouble getting DH to dtd too. It's the balance between babymaking and passion that I'm struggling with. And we've only dtd twice in each month we've been ttc (which doesn't really count as ttc IMO!)

Any tips?!

You really do need to take the pressure off your own self and your man now; if this is what you are like after 2 months of ttc then you could be heading for problems in your relationship further down the line. Trite as it is you really need to talk to each other.

Make love when you both feel like it, not only when you think its ovulation time. DTD every other day is also heading down the route of timed intercourse; again a very bad idea in a relationship.

Ovulation is not an exact science and it can occur earlier, later or not at all in any given cycle. OPKs are also not totally accurate either and can mislead. I would refrain from using these at all as these can also take the fun out of sex.

gemmeg Mon 18-Feb-13 08:32:50

This was my first month using OPKs but I definitely shan't bother with them again. I don't want to spend the money on the expensive ones and don't think the cheaper ones aren't necessarily giving accurate results.

FelixCited...I have banned myself from reading anything about symptoms in the 2ww! I think I must know about EVERY early symptom there is and have come to the conclusion that you may or may not have some or all of the symptoms whether you're pregnant or not smile.

I also have the problem that sex is seen as more of a task than anything else at the moment but TBH this has been a sticking point in my relationship for a long time. I have a higher sex-drive than DH and even if it were the other way round I'd make she effort for him....but anyway, I could start another thread on this subject alone.....we're otherwise a strong couple except for the sex bit!

2beornot.....it's difficult isn't it. You don't want to put "performance pressure" on them but the facts of biology are that there's a fertile window and you wanna catch it!

2beornot Mon 18-Feb-13 11:23:57

attila you talk sense, but it is so hard!! I have never used an OPK and would rather not start, but that does mean dtd more often. I tried this month to instigate an every other day is baby making sex, the other days were for fun (and may or may not lead to full sex). But I still thought I was pressuring him!

I think we need to talk (me and DH that is!)

gemmeg Mon 18-Feb-13 13:56:42

attila I would love to not have to think about ovulation and bloody fertile windows wink but as I mentioned before, we are not a couple that has sex regularly (not my doing) so if we were to just take it as it comes (no pun intendedwink) we'd be waiting an AGE. I envy those women who realise, oh whoopsidaisy, I'm pregnant. It just wouldn't happen like that for us.....

2beornot Mon 18-Feb-13 21:17:05

gemmeg I'm sure you're DH and I in an alternate universe (or city maybe). Except its me that's the reason for not having sex that often, so it's obvious why I suddenly want up do it all the time (and that's really not romantic)! When are you due to test? I'm the 26th.

pegster Mon 18-Feb-13 21:40:00

So good to know its not just me. We're TTC number 2 too and only on cycle 2. Got pregnant 1st month but was a chemical pregnancy. This month I've discovered the joy/stress of OPK's for the first time. I've not actually told DH I've got then though as he works abroad monday to friday so we can only DTD at the w-e anyway regardless of what the sticks say - cant believe I actually bought them!

winterpansy Mon 18-Feb-13 22:05:50

I'm one step ahead of you with nut-job-ness...
We have decided to go for TTC #2 as soon as we can, starting with the next cycle, and stupid AF is nowhere to be seen! I'm on cd36 and no sign of it. Have poas a few times but there would only be the tiniest minimal chance that we conceived last month. I have irregular cycles but the last few have been 28, 33, 28 (been tracking a while since we decided to definitely have another DC). I have OPK testing strips ready and DH is excited about another DC and also having lots of erm...bareback sex as it's been a while!

Come on AF. Come on OV. Come on BFPs (and our sanity back) for everyone!

Sorry...that turned into a bit of a ramble.....

gemmeg Tue 19-Feb-13 07:45:51

winterpansy you def not up the duff at the moment then? You might be one of the "whoopsidaisy" women I mentioned earlier wink. If not, then keeping my fingers crossed for the speedy return of your biological functions wink.

pegster love how you've bought the sticks even though you can only DTD at the wkend anyway! I've stopped doing them as I think they were playing with my mind too much. Haven't had a positive but have had all the other signs of ov....don't let them mess with your head too much esp if you only have a couple of days on which to BD anyway.

2beornot AF due on 1st....would love a BFP as I'm flying home to UK on 2nd to visit my family (I live near Vienna) and it'd be great to be able to surprise my immediate family with some good news.....trying not to get my hopes up too much though.

good luck fellow nutters! wink

winterpansy Tue 19-Feb-13 07:53:12

I wish gemmeg! Without going into tmi the chance would be miniscule. We haven't been 100% careful last couple of times DTD but timings etc. I think would be wrong. I would be delighted if I was though...if it hasn't arrived by Friday I'll poas again. DH would be raging (but very happy of course) - purely because he's looking forward to lots of dtd and when I was pregnant last time I slept 12 hours a night because I was so knackered! Feels weird thinking about all this stuff - DS was a total surprise even though I was on the pill so I've never given cycles and the rest much thought...until now. And it's all consuming!

Oh, fingers crossed for BFP before 1st for you - when are you going to poas?

gemmeg Tue 19-Feb-13 15:21:23

Af is due on 1st so if there's no sign then i'll test as, like I said, I'm flying home the next day and would like DH to be there if I get a BFP.

pegster Tue 19-Feb-13 15:40:24

My AF is due feb 26th but DH doesn't like me to test without him so undecided whether to test 'without cause' 2 days early on Sunday or to be good & wait for it to actually be late - can I wait 5 days though....!

winterpansy Tue 19-Feb-13 19:12:44

Well, AF has just arrived - must have been my whinging on here and your crossed fingers that has done the trick wink

So that it, I'm officially on cycle 1...

pegster Hmmm..I wouldn't be able to wait as I am so impatient - if you wait then you are very well behaved and sensible! Keep us posted.

We should keep this thread going for the upcoming poas-ness!

gemmeg Tue 19-Feb-13 19:17:11

Good to hear winterpansy!

I'd try to hold off testing....with DS1 I tested the morning AF was actually due and got a BFN. Threw the stick in the bin, fished it out half an hour later and found a v.faint pink line which led to me agonising over what it could mean for another 2 days until I tested again and got a proper BFP.

Let's keep each other posted!

2beornot Tue 19-Feb-13 20:15:39

I know of I were you pegster that I would be able to wait! I'm going to try to hold off until the 26th unless AF arrives by then. Should be easy this month tho as I don't feel like we've done it.

Exciting winterpansy. Hopefully wont be long til u ovulate - then you can join us crazy ladies!

Looking forward to the poas updates!!

2beornot Wed 20-Feb-13 18:36:35

Anyone inventing any early pg symptoms yet?! grin You wouldn't believe the ones I had last month!!

gemmeg Wed 20-Feb-13 19:33:39

Too early for me yet....only 3 dpo (or so I believe). Just got the usual abdominal pains and sore nipples when I BF DS1 which I normally get after ov.

2beornot Wed 20-Feb-13 21:27:37

Ahh of course! Well I guess I'm 8dpo so could have some but not noticed anything. Didn't with dd1 tho either.

pegster Wed 20-Feb-13 21:27:42

Yesterday I had myself thinking my boobs were tender but not noticed that today.
Have put some tesco pregnancy tests on the on-line shop today so that should bring AF in on-time wink

I came on here to write that but you got there first OP!

I'm only on the first cycle but I'm going crazy with symptom spotting. I have cramps, fatigue, sore boobs and (I know I'll have to eat my words, but...) I feel sure that I'm pregnant.

Of course DH is all 'just don't think about it, I bet you aren't pregnant so soon' and I find it really insensitive probably because I have PMT

I've POAS twice now, even though it's too early - I can't help myself!

This is for DC2 and I swore I wouldn't turn into a nutjob this time (DS took 3 cycles and I nearly lost my mind).

2beornot Wed 20-Feb-13 22:54:56

Welcome nomore!! When is AF due? Fingers crossed you get a 1st cycle BFP! With dd1 I got pg 1st cycle, so was kinda hoping and had convinced myself that was pg. lets hope now I'm convinced im not that I really am. 6 days til I poas!!

MrsHuxtable Thu 21-Feb-13 10:10:50

Oh haha, I can top all of you ladies with my nuttiness!

We've NOT EVEN STARTED ttc #2 yet and I'm already obsessed. DD is 1, I'm still breastfeeding and as a consequence have a luteal phase defect. We're starting ttc in April, 2 months to go but because I know things will be very difficult, I can't stop thinking about it. Evert day, I spend hours on here, google in general tofind stuff to help with my defect.

Am observing cm, using opk (both the cheap and the smiley face ones) and am dosing myself up with concetion vitamins and b6. DH, the poor bugger, is also on the vitamins and is banned from drinking more than 1 pint a week.

Ha! Told you I'm worse than you guys!

Hi 2be! AF is due on Saturday I think. I use the 'My Cycles' app and that says its tomorrow but I think that's wrong. Based on my interpretation i was too early testing when I did anyway. Guess I'll know for sure soon...

The more I think about it, it's so cruel that the symptoms are so similar to PMT. Then just when you need to be rational about a BFN, your hormones turn you into a crazy person. confused

I've symptom spotted before but I've never felt like this, just quite confident I am pregnant (balanced with a sense of impending embarrassment when I turn out to be wrong!).

Mrs Huxtable that's funny - I've been on the special vitamins and folic acid for a few months in preparation.

However I fear if I made DH take them or generally be inconvenienced more than having to DTD a lot I'd be subject to some major eye-rolling.

gemmeg Thu 21-Feb-13 12:28:04

Ha, ha! Love all your posts! I have been TOO good this week.....I haven't done any symptom spotting or reading on the net. I've made a conscious effort to forget (that's surely an oxymoron) and am only indulging my baby obsession with you fellow loons wink. I'm also still BFing mrshuxtable. How long is your luteal phase? Mine is 11-12 days but I think that's ok right?

Fingers crossed your suspicions are right nomore!

OMG....just remembered while TTC DS1 I completely flipped out at my OH for not DTD enough (in response to finding out yet another of my friends was pg accidentally) and I smashed my cereal bowl on the floor, took a chunk out the laminate and burst into a flood of tears.WTF!! DH was very understanding though.....can't believe I did that. Having a kid has def made me more patient I think!

winterpansy Thu 21-Feb-13 12:51:13

Haha! I've been on the vitamins since...last SEPT!!
I had a few job issues which meant we kept putting off ttc every month but now I've started a new part-time job which is ace we are going for it now, well after AF goes. There is no doubt I am full of folic acid though!

I will be ov around 9th March if my app predictions are right so I'll be 2ww-ing after that. Flip. Nerve wracking!

I am actually very excited that there may be a few BFPs coming soon on here....

God I hope there are some BFPs. I know how spoilt it sounds but it's going to take over my life!

I did just make myself my favourite sandwich for lunch.. But it tasted awful...

<slaps self> blush

MrsHuxtable Thu 21-Feb-13 13:23:17

Gem Yep, 10 days and over is fine. I have 5 days at the moment. So pregnancy is not possible until that changes. I'm gutted as I'm on a strict ttc schedule so might have to night wean poor DD earlier than I wanted.

2beornot Fri 22-Feb-13 11:49:28

Ok so I've got two first response tests! AF is due on Tues, today is 10 dpo (I think, I don't know when I ovulated but I so have a regular 28 day cycle). When should I test? I've heard that first thing in the morning is best so tomorrow, Sunday or Monday?

2beornot Fri 22-Feb-13 12:02:09

Any more news nomore? Have you POAS again?

POAS this morning (in secret from DH!) and BFN...

Starting to wonder if symptoms are because of stopping BFing DS. That was about a month ago but read up on it and can cause sore boobs (but they weren't for 2 weeks after stopping?) and fatigue.

Trying to beat some reality into myself now. Still got that nagging feeling though. Bit shit really! hmm

2beornot Fri 22-Feb-13 12:58:51

I wouldn't know about the stopping bf symptoms - but AF isn't here yet do there is some hope!

As it happens my AF arrived about 5 minutes after I posted about the tests am v confused now though because that's four days early!!! Still means we can get ttc again sooner!!!!

That's confusing 2be! Things are never that simple are they?? I'm not sure when to expect AF as I never know when to count from - I often get spotting for a day or two before, and my cycles last different lengths as well.

Just been to get more tests at lunch to fulfil my increasingly secretive habit of POAS... I figure DH doesn't need to know about my crazy addiction! wink

gemmeg Sat 23-Feb-13 10:59:43

Any news for us nomore? Any sign of AF? I'm also starting to get twitchy.....I'm about 6-7 dpo and for 2 days now my nipples have been really sore. When I BF I have to brace myself when DS first latches on and in the morning they're especially sensitive because I sleep on my front! I had all the usual abdominal cramps which I get post ovulation- they've been and gone but still my nipples are sore which is not a normal symptom for me at all and I'm sure I'm not imagining that my boobs feel fuller. I also have a lot of ..... TMI ..... creamy CM. I'm not the kind to invent symptoms and keep trying to put them down to something else so I won't be disappointed should AF arrive nxt Sat. I don't think I'll test until next Sat either as I'm scared of getting a BFP then AF arriving anyway (i.e chemical pregnancy) or getting a BFN for testing too early.....trying not to read too much into things is hard!! Sorry for raving like a loonatic rambling, just had to get it off my (sore and ample) chest wink.

gemmeg Sat 23-Feb-13 11:01:07

Oh yeah what I also wanted to ask is isn't it too early to feel such symptoms?

BFN again this morning, though AF is now 2 days late... (According to MyCycles)

When I was obsessively looking up symptoms last week it said that fatigue was one of the earliest you can detect, as soon as one week after conception. I can't remember about sore boobs though.

Though speaking of boobs, if I'm not PG then I have mastitis I think, couldn't sleep on my left last night and its been ages since I stopped BF...

2beornot Sat 23-Feb-13 12:03:30

Have you looked on www.countdowntopregnancy.com ? There is a list of pregnancy symptoms by dpo and lots of other fun things. Need to read it with a massive pinch of salt though!

Oh god 2be - that website is like AA for crazy TTC ladies! totally addicted already wink

pegster Sat 23-Feb-13 16:29:58

I threw-up this morning, definitely not a hangover so must be a positive symptom right?! Going to have to POAS Tuesday, have told DH he will have to take part on FaceTime - no way I can wait til next w-e....

That's exciting pegster! Fingers crossed. Were you sick last time? I'm wondering if we'll have the same symptoms as we did with DC1...

2beornot Sat 23-Feb-13 17:11:11

Def a positive sign pegster. Vomiting is one symptom we can't imagine!!

pegster Sat 23-Feb-13 19:00:30

Had nausea last time but not early on, was only actually sick twice with DS. Did think maybe its a bug but was only once first thing and cured by breakfast - sort of hopeful smile
Anyone else POAS yet?

2beornot Mon 25-Feb-13 09:00:59

Ladies, sorry to put this on here but I have to say it somewhere and I can't tell DH!

Last night I had a dream that I was pregnant and delivered a baby boy spontaneously at home (early, but healthy). It was the day before my dd birthday. I woke up and felt really down that not only was it not true, I wasn't even pregnant!

Oh we'll! DH have had a chat about our approach this month. Basically I do not want another January baby. DH & DD both have January birthdays and its an expensive month! So after this cycle we're going to have a month off (I think I've calculated correctly!). So this month we've decided to go for broke. If it doesn't work it won't be through lack of trying!

Enough about me! Anyone else POAS yet?

I POAS yesterday (I know, I'm not even trying to fight it anymore!) and another BFN. If AF doesn't show today it'll be 32 days - the longest since I've been tracking (started in October).

According to countdown to pregnancy there's a 16.8% chance it could have been wrong. Still getting cramps (for well over a week now - would never get that normally).

Guess it's only a small chance I'm PG now.

2be we're thinking we'll try to avoid a Christmas baby too if we can. If I'm not going crazy and we are PG this month it'll be due 2 November, so one more month of trying and then a month off for us too. I want to try to avoid people getting joint presents/forgetting it altogether if we can.

Obviously there are worse things that could happen but that's the plan!

gemmeg Mon 25-Feb-13 11:32:19

I've got my fingers crossed for you nomore....I'm also not convinced I'm pg this cycle. My sore nipples abated after 2 days and i dont have any other signs apart from CM. Got to hold out to Sat to test though....one of us just has to get a BFP better of course would be ALL of us!

Thanks gemmeg smile

Yet another BFN today (I thought I could see a very faint line but highly likely to be my crazy mind).

Tomorrow will be 32 days but I just can't see how this many tests could be wrong at this stage. Guess I'll just wait for AF - although cramps have pretty much gone now!

winterpansy Mon 25-Feb-13 22:25:53

Well,fellow nut jobs!
How are we all tonight?
I've got my fingers crossed for you nomorepeg and gem. One of you MUST get a bfp after all this excitement!
Interesting point about the Christmas baby issue. I hadn't really thought of that. We have DMIL and DBIL's birthdays in Dec so it's always a ridiculously expensive month for us but I think we will just try and and see what happens, it wouldn't be the end of the world (far from it!) to have a wee snowy santa baby. DS was born in June so it would be far away enough from his anyway!
AF has just disappeared and we're raring to go. Planning to dtd from this Wednesday (just in case) every other night (and a few extra times during ov - opks at the ready) for the next couple of weeks. Since it's our first cycle we are full of enthusiam. I am sure this will dwindle with each cycle!

gemmeg Tue 26-Feb-13 10:38:36

It does happen though nomore....I've read about so many women whose AF hasn't arrived, keep getting neg pregnancy tests then eventually get a positive weeks later. With DS I tested on day AF was due and got a BFN but fished it out the bin (yuk, I know) and looked at it after the time they tell you to and had the faintest of faint lines. Keep coming on here everyday in the hope of hearing some good news!

Thanks gemmeg.

Still no sign of AF today. Feeling quite sick but that's probably due to the chilling realisation that I've lost my mind! smile

2beornot Tue 26-Feb-13 14:10:04

I'm not surprised though, nomore! I don't think anyone could remain sane in your situation! I'd be POAS every morning and noon and night

Thanks 2be, it's good to be in sympathetic company! DH isn't the best for that kind of thing. I have some Internet cheapies kindly donated by a PG friend so might do another tonight in secret and will report back.

pegster Tue 26-Feb-13 17:42:42

No sign of AF (due today so not late yet). Being encouraged by DH to wait until Friday to test, going to be a struggle. Not been sick again but have a spotty chin (not usually a PMS thing with me) and sensitive nipples - the shower spray hurt them this morning - so feeling secretly hopeful wink

Another BFN angry

2beornot Wed 27-Feb-13 09:20:52

Pegster - do wait til DH is back. It'll be so much more exciting!!

Nomore - all you can do is keep testing and waiting.

I'm still hopeful for some BFPs this month - then the rest next month!!

gemmeg Wed 27-Feb-13 09:50:16

nomore, would it be possible for you to get a blood test? I don't know how easy it is in the UK to just walk into a drs and ask for one. I live in Austria and here you can make an appointment for a blood test whenever you feel you should have one for a general check-up but I don't know if it's like that back home. It must be so frustrating for you. Do you really feel as though you're pg?

winterpansy Wed 27-Feb-13 09:56:50

How frustrating nomore I do hope something shows up soon to put your mind at rest.

peg Ooh..don't forget to tell us straight after you and DH find out!

pegster Wed 27-Feb-13 12:25:57

Ok I caved & BFP!! smile

Not going to tell DH that have 'cheated' so will be doing another test in all innocence in 2 days time
Trying not to get excited yet as last month had a chemical pregnancy and was bleeding 4 days after my BFP so don't know if it'll be a sticky one yet. Please keep your fingers crossed for me ladies. And hopefully this is just the start of a run of BFP's on this thread...

Pegster that's brilliant news! I bet your DH wouldn't mind you cheating if the result is a good one? Keeping my fingers crossed for you smile

AF just arrived for me hmm but I'm just so relieved to stop wondering that I'm quite happy really. Today was 36 days I think!!

Hopefully now I know how I can feel and not be pregnant, it might mean I'm calmer next month <hopeful>

Hopes no-one remembers how confident I was before... blush

2beornot Wed 27-Feb-13 13:38:57

Woo hoo! Well done on the BFP peg. I couldn't fake it - I'd have to tell straight away!!

And no more, I know it's not the BFP you wanted, but it is the next best thing at least. Now you can start thinking about trying again!!!

gemmeg Wed 27-Feb-13 13:55:53

Congrats from me too pegster! And glad you now know either way nomore....will let you know my result on Fri. Honestly can't wait to get it over with. I'm sick of brooding over it!

winterpansy Wed 27-Feb-13 14:04:19

Oh wow! Brill news all round. Congrats peg!
Our first BFP on the thread. Love it!

nomoreAt least you know now. I was a bit like you last time I was waiting for AF. 37 days and many bfns (althought I knew in my heart of hearts I couldn't be pg). It really does your head in! Good luck for this cycle.

pegster Wed 27-Feb-13 14:39:46

I'm sorry about the arrival of AF nomore, depressing day but at least this is now day 1 of your next cycle & next chance for TTC....

Tinyflutterby Wed 27-Feb-13 15:49:58

Hi everyone, can I join? Trying VERY hard not to get over-obsessed this cycle as I have a tendency to do so! Been TTC#2 for about 6 months, DS1 took 2 years so really hoping it doesn't take that long again as I'm getting on a bit (36 in few weeks) which I think only makes me more obsessed.

I have very long irregular cycles (36-48 days) so difficult to track when I ov. Been tracking CM so far, but given in and am going to try OPK this time, although worried it might make me even more obsessed.

Not sure if herbal medicine helped first time round as I got pg a couple of weeks after starting it, but have just been to my first appointment and am going to try that again, if only to regulate things a bit, so we'll see!

gemmeg Wed 27-Feb-13 17:41:04

Hello tinyflutterby, you've come to the right place....we're all obsessed here, you shan't be judged! wink. Must be difficult with irregular cycles so perhaps OPKs would be good as well as checking CM. Wishing you the best of luck on your TTC journey!

2beornot Wed 27-Feb-13 17:58:11

The more the merrier!!! I think I'd be using OPKs in your case tiny! Although my cycle was 24 days this month, so DH and I will have to start dtd a lot earlier this month to make sure we don't miss it!!

Thanks everyone - it's so nice to have support from people who genuinely understand what it's like to be a TTC nutjob!

Welcome tiny! Let's hope Pegster's BFP is a good omen for us all grin

Can I ask a stupid question? This is going to sound like I'm clinging on to the idea a bit but I was thinking about why my cycle was so long this month when it's never been that long before.

I know all the BFNs would make it unlikely, but is it possible that it's a very early MC? I can deal with the idea if it is but I just wondered whether it could feel the same as a period? Sorry I don't know much about the subject.

Ferino Wed 27-Feb-13 21:16:18

Hi nomore, I've just found this thread and am in a similar position to you. I don't know the answer to your question but will watch for responses with interest. For background, I stopped taking the pill at the start of Jan and am now on day 42 from the start of my withdrawal bleed. No proper AF yet but BFN a few days ago so I'm similarly confused. Weird discharge and cramps today so have been wondering if it's an early miscarriage too. Hopefully somebody in the know gets back to you soon.

2beornot Wed 27-Feb-13 21:17:53

I don't really know, nomore. I presume it's possible. Are you usually very regular? Are you using OPKs? If you have another unusual length cycle then it might be worth using them?

I've been using OPKs just this month. I've been tracking my cycles since October and they've been mostly 27-29 days. One was 31 but I was spotting for a few days before that, just counted again and this was 33.

I ovulated on day 18 which is a few days later than MyCycles predicted. Would that indicate that my cycle would be longer?

Feel clueless about this!

pegster Wed 27-Feb-13 22:24:45

Nomore - my really early miscarriage last month at about 5 weeks was like a slightly heavier, crampier period with some small clots in (TMI sorry) - usually I don't suffer at all but I needed painkillers & a hot water bottle for the first 2 days. I had a positive test but not until 4 days after I'd expected AF and never had any pregnancy symptoms like increased CM & nausea that I've got this time

chocoloulou33 Wed 27-Feb-13 23:02:45

Can I join please!! Am ttc#2 have dd who is 5. Step-daughter who is 7 & step-son who is 4. So busy busy busy but me & OH would love a baby together. Am currently cycle 6, 10dpo. Trying not to stress who am I kidding x

Thanks pegster. I suppose I won't ever know if that's what this is but we'll see what my future cycles are like and that might give me an idea.

Anyway - how are you feeling? Have you managed to not tell DH about your BFP? I wouldn't be able to hold it in!

Welcome chocoloulou! Yes we're building up a lovely little nut job club over here! Obsess away in the knowledge we're all just as crazy smile

pegster Thu 28-Feb-13 11:46:50

Not told DH - I haven't actually seen him (he works in Germany) or spoken to him since I tested, just a few emails so easy to keep quiet. Roll on tomorrow

winterpansy Thu 28-Feb-13 14:56:05

How exciting peg! That will be a lovely moment tomorrow then.

So pleased for you!

pegster Thu 28-Feb-13 21:02:25

DH is now in the know and slightly shocked but excited. Surreal experience sharing watching a pregnancy test develop over FaceTime!!

That's lovely pegster! Hope you did a good surprised face grin

gemmeg Fri 01-Mar-13 13:03:23

So pleased for you pegster smile. I POAS this morning.....BFN sad. AF isn't officially late yet though as I'm actually due today (i think!), no sign yet but I'm not holding my breath.

pegster Fri 01-Mar-13 15:03:08

Oh Gemmeg that's disappointing but not over for this cycle yet. Do you have any preg symptoms?

Tinyflutterby Fri 01-Mar-13 15:44:33

Thanks for the warm welcome everyone and congrats on your BFP Peg!

Nomore - I sometimes find my cycles are really long after ovulation as I get so worked up, stressed and/or convinced that I'm preg that I'm sure I actually make af delayed just by the power of thought! If you ovulated later then your cycle will be longer. Its the first part of the cycle that generally predicts how long it will be as the second part is usually pretty constant (unless you do what I just described I do!)

Have decided I will definetly use the OPK's this cycle as they're all over the place and DH is working lots and very stressed so dtd isn't going to happen other than at ovulation I'm afraid.

2beornot Fri 01-Mar-13 16:25:53

Boo gemmeg! I've got my fingers crossed for you - you could still be our second BFP!

Dtd starts in earnest from tonight! DH knows its every other night (at least wink) for the next week!

Thanks Tiny - if it is possible to affect things by being a nut job then I probably did. I took it to levels I didn't know existed! Am determined to chill out a bit this cycle (famous last words).

AF so far has been pretty standard apart from starting suddenly without the spotting for a few days before, so hopefully it's not an early MC.

Keeping my fingers crossed for you gemmeg!

gemmeg Fri 01-Mar-13 19:53:46

Thanks all....no sign of AF today but then my cycles have only really been regular the past 3 months so maybe they haven't fully settled yet and I still have a day or 2 to go til the witch arrives wink or maybe I've got myself worked up like tinyflutterby said. Also, DS has started BFing a bit more the past week so don't know if that'll affect things. It makes things a bit more difficult to work out though for the next cycle if AF does show up later.....so it's the LP that stays the same each month? So if you're not sure when your nxt AF will begin it's impossible to count backwards to ovulation day, right? (Sorry to ask such dumb questions just want to be sure I've understood right!).

pegster I had really sore nipples at about 4dpo which isn't normal for me. It lasted a couple of days along with the O cramps so i just put the soreness down to O. Had a few strange stabbing pains sporadically in my boobs but they don't really feel heavy or sore. Today and yesterday I felt nauseous at around the same time each day but it went away after half an hour or so. Apart from that I've been tired but not so much so that I've nodded off on the sofa. I've still got CM but don't know if that's normal for me or not just before AF....all very vague.

chocoloulou33 Sat 02-Mar-13 00:03:23

Hello fellow nut jobs. Just had a catch up on all the posts. No more bfp's yet then tut tut lol. I tested thurs & got bfn, gonna test again in morning as af due 2day & I'm never late so wanna be sure as going out to a party 2moro night x

Ooh sounds like there might be one or two more BFPs on the way! smile

Keep us posted!

pegster Sun 03-Mar-13 09:32:27

Anybody else POAS yet?

chocoloulou33 Sun 03-Mar-13 09:56:19

Got my af this morning :'( onto month 7 then ...

Booo! Lucky number 7 choco smile

gemmeg Sun 03-Mar-13 15:35:45

Still no sign of AF....POAS this morning but BFN. Will just have to wait and see....still have CM and also feel run-down- have cold sore on and up my nose sad, a swollen gland in my neck and a MASSIVE spot on my chin (I'm a spotty person anyway but this is a proper hormonal spot). DS has been BFing a lot more....perhaps this has delayed things.....

2beornot Sun 03-Mar-13 21:02:13

Chcolou - hope you enjoyed your party. I find alcohol a very poor consolation, but a hint of a silver lining anyway!

Gemmeg - fingers crossed for you still. Our last hope of a BFP this month.

chocoloulou33 Sun 03-Mar-13 23:52:35

Thanks ladies. Feeling a lot more positive than I was this time last month so onwards & upwards! X

gemmeg Mon 04-Mar-13 10:26:22

AF just arrived sad

pegster Mon 04-Mar-13 14:31:07

Sorry to hear that Gemmeg, BF must still be messing with your cycle. Fingers crossed march is still your month

2beornot Mon 04-Mar-13 14:54:05

I'm sorry to hear that too, gemmeg. I hope you get a nice Easter BFP!

gemmeg Mon 04-Mar-13 17:05:50

Thanks guys...I must say I was getting my hopes up a little. DS has really been feeding a lot the past week so I guess it must be down to that. Still, I think DH has been a bit complacent about this TTC malarkey and thinks it'll be all as easy as last time round. Maybe he'll try harder this month smile. Here's to a spring conception for all of us!

Sorry to hear that gemmeg. I know how you feel. I consoled myself with G&T and I'd recommend it smile

can I come and join the nut job club please? only on cycle 1 of ttc dc2 but I already have opk sticks (cheap ebay ones) armed and ready! It took 6-ish cycles to conceive DS but it was the month I used opks EVERY day and dtd 5 days running ('twas exhausting!) that it finally happened. We normally only dtd once a week so do feel I need the help of those sticks as I am useless at tracking my cycle (although I have an app now but my cycle varies a bit each month)

I think I ovulated around 23rd feb, which happened to be my birthday and was in Paris (possibly just outed myself there!) so it would be a nice birthday present but not entirely convinced it happened. I made sure I drank loads of wine and ate lots of pate just in case it was my last chance grin

2beornot Tue 05-Mar-13 11:23:44

Hi pettypru!!! Of course you can join , the more nutters the better!!!

DH and I are currently dtd every other night and I'm starting to panic that its not enough. I've not even ovulated yet!! I really feel like its going to work this month (by which I mean I really want it to work).

I will be gutted if it doesn't work this month, because that means there will be no 2013 baby for me. sad

gemmeg Tue 05-Mar-13 11:40:33

Great, another nut-job for our club! Welcome prettyprudence smile.

2be....I think every other night is def enough. It gives you both a chance to recover and is a little less exhausting esp if you want to keep DTD over a longer period of time. We conceived DS by DTD every other day. 4 times in total.

Think I'm going to have to adopt that tactic as AF was late this month so I'm not sure when I will ovulate. Think it would be best do DTD over a longer time period....just got to get DH to agree....

winterpansy Tue 05-Mar-13 12:44:23

Hello fellow nutters!

Glad to hear every other night can work - we've dtd on cd9, 11, 14 so far and my app tells me I'm due to ovulate this Sat so we'll try for a couple of times before then too. It's exhausting already! I hear ya 2be!

Hi and welcome pettypru I'm on cycle 1 of ttc dc2 (have a DS 21 months already). I'm currently on cd15. A parisian baby would be lovely! You'd have to name it something French smile

gem Good luck with coercing DH!

2beornot Tue 05-Mar-13 15:34:51

Quick question then: when can I let DH off the hook (or rather when can it be just for fun again?!). We plan to dtd on cd 7, 9, 11, 13 & 15. Started early because although I'm usually a 28 day regular, for some reason it was 24 last month. I presume that's ok?! It's hard because with DD1, I'm sure a few times was enough (and I was completely oblivious to CDs, ovulation timings and everything!)

2beornot maybe add cd17 just to be on the safe side?

Gah started poas already and I know its completely pointless as only 9-ish days past ovulation and they are really cheapy sticks of ebay (which are supposed to be early response ones but totally aren't!) MUST NOT TEST AGAIN UNTIL MONDAY repeat to fade

gemmeg Wed 06-Mar-13 11:19:27

I know what you mean 2beornot! With DS we did it about 3-4 times, had no clue about CM and CDs- just used a ov calendar. We conceived cycle 2. Back then though I had a reg 28 day cycle now I'm all over the shop!

winterpansy Wed 06-Mar-13 13:03:11

Omg..just found ewcm and got really properly excited about impending ovulation.
Sad or what...

Have texted DH to let him know to be primed and ready tonight grin

Tinyflutterby Wed 06-Mar-13 14:33:50

How is everyone getting on? I started using the OPK's this week and so far am feeling more relaxed about the whole thing, as it gives some 'control' to the situation. It is too difficult to dtd every other day as my cycles are so irregular that we run out of steam before I've even ovulated and then it becomes a chore and hearing 'do we have to?' doesn't really do much for the mood! So plan for this cycle is just to wait until I get a +OPK then go for it!

2beornot Thu 07-Mar-13 11:23:12

Hi tiny!

We're just getting our heads down and dtd as often as we can! Today is day 14 so should be Ov day - although I'm not sure it's happen yet. That said I don't really know my signs, but def no ewcm. Lets hope it happens soon, because like you said we don't want to run out of steam!!

winterpansy Thu 07-Mar-13 14:41:23

Hey there!
I used some cheapy opks and they are all invalid. Must have been a dud batch.
Off to Boots soon to pick up some dear ones to give us some piece of mind that we are definitely dtd at the right time. DH was feeling a bit sick last night so we didn't get it on. Tonight though!

Hi everyone!

It seems to have come around again really quickly but it's DTD week at ours too. Haven't done any OPKs yet but will probably start after the weekend. DH has been informed he's on duty so I should probably shave my legs

gemmeg Thu 07-Mar-13 20:46:23

So ladies, I have just purchased myself some clearblue OPKs off amazon.....I know, I know, I said I wasn't going to bother but the ones I had before were just some cheapo ones and as I was 3 days late this month I thought I'd give them a go. Won't get back home to DH till right near the time I think I ov so I've informed him that we're cracking on with the business as soon as I get back and fitting as many in as poss....he took it well wink. Good luck to all this month!

2beornot Fri 08-Mar-13 07:28:33

Am I the only one not using OPKs? You do realise if it doesn't happened for me this month then I will be blaming you ladies when I rush out and get them for next month?!

winterpansy Fri 08-Mar-13 15:00:47

I'm very excited about the opks! I was sucked into buying a pack of 20 for £40 in Boots (it'll be amazon if I need them again!!) and used them yesterday and today! AND...got my first smiley today and then rushed down the stairs to jump on DH as DS is down for his nap so we're doing at the right time at least!. Ah, yes...I swore I'd not get this carried away for a few months at least but damn, I want a bfp grin

winterpansy Fri 08-Mar-13 15:06:20

Just reading back there - there are quite a few of us who will be testing around the same time. Hopefully luck comes in numbers!

2beornot Fri 08-Mar-13 17:36:07

Do we need a catch up?

Cycle: #3
Dtd until: Sunday (cd17)
AF due: 22nd

Anything else to add?

Cycle 1
Only dtd twice (as in used the proper finishing method....)
AF due Monday 11th

I keep testing but I know its pointless and a waste of sticks!

I am using cheapy opk's - used them before with no problem. In fact they highlighted that I was testing and dtd at the wrong time! Now probably isn't the best time to get a bfp though as trying to buy a house and will have a lot of work to do so the less pg I am when we move the better!

winterpansy Sat 09-Mar-13 19:55:32

My stats:
Cycle no.1
Ov today - cd19
Dtd cd9, 11,14,18,19 (well early hours of 19 blush)!
Af due 26th - by MyDays app.I'll prob test on Fri 22nd...just to see!

lucieloos Sat 09-Mar-13 23:34:05

Hi there

Hope you don't mind if I join you! Feeling a bit fed up at the moment. This is our first month of TTC and I am on CD10. Want to DTD lots this week but its such a struggle getting DH to participate! Thought we would do it last night and tried to initiate but he was tired and not interested. It's so frustrating, he was even more keen than me to start trying and really wants a baby but doesn't seem too bothered about putting any effort in. Every night I feel like I am pestering him to DTD and it's getting me down.

I haven't actually spoken to him and told him this is the week we need to be uping our game if we want to be in with a chance. What does everyone else do? Do you tell your DH when it's the week or do you just take it as it comes and hope for the best?

It's just difficult as most other friends I have spoken to their partners can't seem to get enough and want to be doing it all the time anyway. Would make life so much easier!

Cycle #2
Ov due 12th based on MyCycles (or 16th based on last cycle)
AF due 27th (or 31st based on last cycle)

I have this daydream where I can announce we're pregnant at DS' 2nd birthday party on 31st as it's only close family there... Wouldn't admit that anywhere else!

No DTD yet! Always too tired but need to get on with it tonight. I just tell DH he's 'on duty' tonight and we try not to take it too seriously. He even rolls over in bed and says 'So...Would you like me to impregnate you??' Romantic!

gemmeg Sun 10-Mar-13 12:17:23

Welcome lucieloos:-) I know exactly where you're coming from. I'm always envious of those couples who take this whole baby-making thing in a relaxed manner as they generally DTD a lot throughout the whole month. I tell my DH when I want us to do it, then he tries to rearrange everything (which really annoys me, doesn't he understand the biology!!) and we usually DTD 3 times within my fertile period. Of course I'd be happier with more but I don't want to push it. I also feel as though I pester and I have to remind him that another baby isn't just for me, he wants to have one too! Does your DH understand that there really is just a limited time when you can conceive?

Ha ha nomore!! My DH does the same!!

ASmidgeofMidge Sun 10-Mar-13 14:34:29

Can I join? TTC #2... dd is 5 and I'm 33, as is dh. With dd we hit 'the jackpot' straight away, so am trying not to be too impatient. I think we have dtd at the right times this past month (but more on that later-I don't think I understand all I need to re cycles n stuff) and am coming to the end of 2ww. AF due tomorrow and have to say it feels like it sad. I think as was so quick last time I've set myself up for things moving rapidly ths time too, although intellectually I know things are different - older, not just come off pill with 'fertility surge' etc. Have had some weird symptoms this month - itchy nipples hmm and 'stitch' type pains, but feel v irritable and crampy today

ASmidgeofMidge Sun 10-Mar-13 14:36:56

Is anyone else using the Pink Pad app for iPhone? Any good? And how does one use these ovulation predictor thingies? Haven't bought any and am not sure if it's worth investing?

Hi ladies, I'm ttc number 2 as well. I have a DS who is 4 in April and had a miscarriage on 15th feb (at 6 weeks). I have long and irregular cycles so never know when AF is due or when I am going to ovulate. My plan is to DTD every other night and test for ovulation everyday - fingers crossed!!

Good luck everyone! X

gemmeg Sun 10-Mar-13 17:51:36

Hello ASmidge don't know about the app but can help a bit on the opk front. They basically work by detecting LH in your urine. When you get a +opk this means a surge in this hormone has been detected and you should ovulate any time in the nxt 24 hrs. You test everyday at around the same time in the days leading up to when you think you may ovulate (there are usually instructions telling you the best time to start testing. They're rather like a pg test). 2pm is supposedly the best time but it tells you all this in the instructions. If the test line is the same strength or darker in colour than the control line then you have a + and should crack on with DTD. If the line is fainter or non-existent then it's -. I bought some cheap ones last month but didn't get a + even though I was sure I was ovulating. I then read that you can miss the surge if you only test once a day but i really didnt want to be POAS all day long! That said, I've invested in some clearblue as I had an irregular cycle this month so wanted to try them out. Until I get a +opk I can't be sure if they're worth it. I think if you have a reg cycle though then they can just make you obsessed.....but hey, that's why we're all here, right? wink

gemmeg Sun 10-Mar-13 17:53:27

I should also add that when you get a + you should keep testing daily (and DTD!) until you get a -.

lucieloos Sun 10-Mar-13 18:54:58

Hi there gemmeg thanks for your reply. I had a good chat with DH today and told him that I was feeling a bit fed up as I thought that this was something we both wanted but I feel like it is only me taking it seriously and that I felt like I had to pester him to DTD all the time. He seemed to take it well, he said he didnt really understand that there was only a very limited time when we could conceive and now I am going to tell him when it is each month and we will make more of an effort to DTD lots during that week. Feel a lot happier about it and hopefully things will pick up now. Af is due on the 28th Feb. Very excited as this is our first proper cycle TTC smile

af due tomorrow-ish. i tested today, still neg, but not overly surprised sad if af doesn't show up tomorrow i will try and hold out on testing till Wed as i was late last month by a few days. i have no patience though grin
btw my bff is a pharmacist and says it really doesn't matter which opk/pg test you use but obviously some opks are easier to understand than others (i think the clear blue ones give smiley faces when a surge has been detected. with my cheapies i have to twirl it in the light to check which line is darker!)

ASmidgeofMidge Sun 10-Mar-13 20:27:57

Thanks gemmeg. Think might hang fire before using Opk's... Realistically I think I will get obsessed! grin

Ninunina Sun 10-Mar-13 21:56:04

I think I need to join you ladies! I ready your thread yesterday and I think I've officially become a nut job too since I just realised that I really want another baby now! DD almost 16 months and we're not meant to start ttc#2 until July, but I really want it to happen now. I'm meant to be my cousin's bridesmaid at the beginning of July, and would need to fit into a dress without looking like a whale (put on a lot of weight last time). I'm not on the pill anymore, and we DTD last night with no protection...so technically it could happen. I started tracking my cycles this month, and am on CD17, so ovulation should have already happened but I often have long cycles so its hard to say. I feel like a naughty school girl, but I really wouldn't mind having a little "accident", and my dress hasn't been made yet, so technically there is still time to make it a bit generous around the middle.
See what I mean though ladies....nut job!!!!

2beornot Sun 10-Mar-13 22:37:04

Hi new ladies, asmidge, lucie, mummytoark & ninunina!!! Welcome to the nut house.

Tonight is my last night of baby making. It's cd 17 and I'm sure I ov on Fri night (pains on one side and funny taste in my mouth seem to be my symptoms). All in all we've dtd on cd 8, 10, 13, 16. & 17 so I think if it doesn't happen this month it won't be through lack of trying. It has been tiring and there have been nights we've been too knackered so may try OPKs next month to make sure it's productive.

My DH genuinely didn't realise that the window is so tight until we had a chat this month so I think you've done the right thing lucie. And as unromantic as it sounds having a baby making schedule helped, because I then made sure I instigated off the schedule. And I will do next week too.

Good luck pettypru, fingers crossed AF doesn't show and you get a BFP On wed.

ninu I think you're in the right place - I def thought I had fallen first month. It's unlikely, but possible so good luck!!

Loving all the new nutjobs joining! It makes me feel less crazy and allows me to embrace my obsessive POAS habit

ASmidgeofMidge Mon 11-Mar-13 17:47:20

No AF.... But just poas and is negative....

no af here and a bfn. humph. angry

winterpansy Mon 11-Mar-13 19:34:39

Aw no asmidge and petty. It's not over til AF arrives so don't give up just yet.

Nice to see all the new nutjobs. We're due a few bfps here soon I hope.

I'm 2dpo and time is dragggginnngggggg!

Just to add to the OPK chat. I only used them this month and got a smiley face on the second day I used them. I have very irregular cycles and it's given me peace of mind that we did it at the right time (although I'm starting to think we should have done it again the day after the smiley- will do that next time if no bfp this month). We both work hard and have a toddler DS so making sure we do it at the right time, and don't procrastinate due to knackeredness, is key.

2beornot Mon 11-Mar-13 20:11:06

asmidge and petty at least there's no AF so there's still hope.

Winter when are you going to test? I'm due next fri but have some first response tests in the cupboard so will POAS on Next wed. Me and DH have got the day off work and dd is off to the grandparents while we go out so it would be lovely if I got a BFP then!!

My problem is when I want something I want it NOW, or possibly even yesterday grin It does not make for a calm 2ww

winterpansy Mon 11-Mar-13 20:32:43

2be I've just ordered some First Response tests after reading your post! I might try towards the end of next week too. Luckily I'm away for a nice family weekend break on Fri which should distract me until at least Tues.

petty I hear ya, impatience should be my middle name grin

Ninunina Mon 11-Mar-13 21:56:34

Thanks for the warm welcome smile
All this talk of home pregnancy tests has made me wonder if I'll turn into a test nut job like last time, or if I'll manage to wait for a missed period (or the tell tale nausea which I got very early on last time). I'd like to think it's the latter, but we all know that won't happen. Does anyone know if tests expire? I have one that is 2 years old, do you think it would work?

Ninu I think they have expiry dates on them? not that any of mine last that long

Tinyflutterby Tue 12-Mar-13 14:36:40

Hi everyone, I've only been away from this for a couple of days (child-free weekend as grandparents were babysitting) and seem to have missed so much! Welcome to all the new nutters!

So update, used the cheapy OPK's for first time this cycle and got a + on Sat (after 6 days of testing), so been busy this weekend - Sat, Sun and Mon nights (just as well grandparents were babysitting). Got crampy pains Sun and Mon and a bit today, but not sure if DH will agree to a 'performance' tonight again as we're both pretty knackered! Does anyone know how many days after +OPK you should DTD for? Think last few cycles we were stopping DTD too early. I have same prob as some of you in that DH can never be bothered, so the OPK's at least narrow it down to a few days, then we don't have the pressure for the rest of the cycle.

Also on the cheapy OPK test front, the ones I got are really fiddly and you have to follow the instructions to the letter, but I don't think they are any less reliable than the expensive ones if you use them properly. I got 30 for about £5 from a well-known online retailer. I basically didn't drink anything for 2 hours before I did the test then you have to PIAC (pee in a cup?) wait 20 mins for it to get to room temp, then test, then wait 10 mins for results. Then closely examine the lines in about 10 different areas of the house to get the best light and hope they match, then ask DH for his opinion in all the different lights again!

So DTD again tonight or not?

gemmeg Tue 12-Mar-13 17:38:36

Hi tiny with the clearblue opk it says that you are most fertile on the day the LH surge is detected and the day after. It also says you don't need to test again once you get a + but I know with the cheapy ones I had it recommended you test (and DTD) everyday until it became - again. I used my first clearblue test today. I shan't be forking out for them every month but I just wanted to test them out and thought the smiley face thing might make it a bit easier. I don't think I tested for long enough with the cheapy ones so I didn't really give them a fair run. As for your question, I don't think it's necessary to DTD again.....not unless you want to, of course!wink

2beornot Tue 12-Mar-13 18:08:54

tiny that's sound like a lot of work! I suppose it'll be worth it, but what is the price difference? I think I need to do some research for next month (assuming I don't get a BFP next week of course!). I don't think you need to dtd again. From what I've read, sperm lasts longer than our eggs, so if it hadn't been fertilised already dtd today probably won't help!

ASmidgeofMidge Tue 12-Mar-13 18:56:28

Ok... Tmi alert. Still no AF. But lots of discharge which looks like ewcm... But surely I can't be ovulating? First of last period 11th Feb... <wanders off obsessing and muttering>

2beornot Tue 12-Mar-13 20:13:14

Oooh isn't that an early pregnancy sign? But then everything is if you read some websites. Fingers crossed

winterpansy Tue 12-Mar-13 20:34:26

OOhh asmidge when are you going to test again?

ASmidgeofMidge Tue 12-Mar-13 20:37:29

Well promised dh wouldn't test again for a week I've done 3 over the last week ...

ASmidgeofMidge Tue 12-Mar-13 20:38:21

Just realised missed a word out above - first day of last period

ASmidgeofMidge Tue 12-Mar-13 20:39:17

Have others found doing a test first thing in the morn makes a big diff? I haven't been- too sleepy to remember!

MortifiedAdams Tue 12-Mar-13 20:48:40

Hi can I join you lot? Ive been yeanring for dc2 for a while now (dd is 15mo), and spoke to DH last night who agreed we should start ttc. So we DTD last night and all day ive been trying to work out whether it was the right time of the month to have dtd (think I ovulate in about three days so nope). Ive also been thinking thibgs like 'do I need a double buggy','of its a boy, how long can they share for?' etc.

Its way way more stressy second timw and ive obly just begun. fell pg woth dd on the second cycle and was very relaxed ("ill give it a year before we start checking charts etc"), but this time im.torn between "I hope I connceive as quickly" to "argh...its too soon!!"

MortifiedAdams Tue 12-Mar-13 20:49:21

Dear me....my typing. Damn Smartphone.

Welcome to the nut club mortified

Another day, another bfn, still no af. I feel dear AF has been f-ing with me this month and last. Hope its not a permanent change to cycle length - that would knock out nearly 2 cycles a year! Normally I would be very happy to have fewer period but not when I'm ttc!!!

Re: cheapie OPK's - i got 60 opks and 3 pg tests off ebay for about £10. They are the same as I used last time. I haven't used them yet (the opks - fast going through the pg tests!) but last time I tested each day from cd10 at some point between 11am-2pm. I will def use the opks next cycle though. Mine are very basic sticks but identical to some that I bought in superdrug once but for a lot more!

DancingInTheMoonlight Wed 13-Mar-13 08:46:11

Hi ladies! Can i join in please? Got my implanon removed at the beginning of Feb and stopped my pill to try and get rid of the horrific side effects id been having and have had 2Af's since. It hay of last one was 22nd Feb so due on 22nd march (in theory). However hormones are all over the place so I'm not sure if cycle will be sorted yet.

We have one ds (2) already and decided to wait and ttc in June but this month wee have been a little a lot careless and then both decided we would be happy to go with the flow. No serious ttc yet but not preventing it. I have no idea what's involved in ttc as ds1 was a result of a boozy holiday with dh where we ignored the no dtd on my fertile week...

Its much more scary this time already having one dc!

freeangel Wed 13-Mar-13 09:18:55

Ok guess i better fes up and join in too as i have been reading this thread for a couple of days. I came off the pill on Feb 17th and am waiting for my first natural af to turn up! We have been dtd anyway! grin We already have a ds who's 16 months.

I'm with you Mortified - I'm actually terrified of having DC2. I don't know how it's possible to look after a toddler while having to spend hours of my day BFing. I felt like that's all I did for months last time! Plus I had a horrid birth and DS had colic for 5 months, which was horrendous and PND didn't help.

I keep telling myself that, because we only plan to have 2, this will be the last time I have to deal with it all.

I felt dubious about having a child the first time but ended up so obsessed with getting pregnant that I forgot about what came after - it looks like I'll be doing the same this time too!

Tinyflutterby Wed 13-Mar-13 13:57:43

Thanks Gemmeg and 2beornot for your advice. We were both too knackered to dtd again anyway, so hopefully not necessary.

Mortified and Nomore, I'm also with you! In an ideal world I'd have wanted a bigger age gap, but when I'm already almost 36 and have an erratic cycle, unfortunately time is not a luxury I have. Who knows if it takes 2 years second time around I will have a bigger age gap anyway.

On the subject of OPK's, I found a good site yesterday - www.peeonastick.com and I also liked the name!

2ww here we go!

just Aaaaaarrrrrrrggghhhhhhh. where is af? aaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrgggghhhh. that is all.

ASmidgeofMidge Wed 13-Mar-13 18:36:11

Still no AF here...

2beornot Wed 13-Mar-13 20:34:34

I feel your pain, ladies. My AF is due next Friday, but I just don't feel pregnant. I know I wouldn't yet, but women's intuition and all that. Do either of you feel pregnant?

gemmeg Wed 13-Mar-13 21:02:28

Don't forget 2beornot that we are looking for every possible symptom that could mean early pregnancy when most women wouldn't show/notice any symptoms until a few weeks in. With DS I didn't "feel" pregnant. Fingers crossed for you.

prettypru and asmidge are you both now overdue? Have u POAS?

I know usually we're praying for ov to come but today when I did opk I was hoping for a negative as I'm in Derby visiting my family while DH is at our home in Austria....I don't want to see a smiley face until Saturday!!!

Oh petty and smidge you have my sympathy! You'll see how gracefully I took the same situation earlier in the thread...wink

Hopefully yours will have a better outcome. I didn't feel pregnant the month I actually did conceive DS.

MortifiedAdams Wed 13-Mar-13 23:44:12

Ooh OP, your username is my name and my dds name! Just realised. teehee people might think you are me if anyone in RL I know is on here.

DancingInTheMoonlight Thu 14-Mar-13 06:37:03

So i am having pains which haven't eased in the night. Its like a stitch'stretching on each side of my pelvis? Wondering if I'm brewing a kidney infection or something? Ill drink lots of water and cranberry juice today and see if it helps... Not had a kidney/uti since i was little do not sure what it feels like.

Not sure what that is Dancing - maybe one of the others will know?

Smiley face for me this morning so DH is on duty again tonight. DTD last night so fingers crossed! It's a couple of days later than MyCycles said so looks like it'll be another long cycle this month. Sod's law that they change as soon as we're TTC!

Ninunina Thu 14-Mar-13 11:06:56

It's great to see so many fellow nut jobs joining. I'm dreaming up symptoms I think. I'm meant to be waiting til July before TTC, but it turns out we dtd exactly when I ovulated (I get bad ovulation pain during or just after ovulation). Last night I kept waking up feeling as if my bra was too tight, then I woke up feeling really nauseous. AF is not due for another week, but I experienced very early symptoms last time. I was a bit worried it was gastric flu, but I'm feeling ok now. I think it's just wishful thinking, although I haven't started taking folic acid yet, so it's not ideal to get pregnant now.
Anyone POAS today or tomorrow?

gemmeg Thu 14-Mar-13 11:32:26

Forgive my silly question mortified but you are also called Gemma then? smile

gemmeg Thu 14-Mar-13 11:34:18

ninunina it all sounds promising....I wouldn't worry too much about the folic acid thing. Think of all the people who fall pg accidentally (my sis for eg) who haven't had any pre-natal vitamins. Just start taking them now.

still no af (4 days overdue my normal cycle, 1 ds over my longest cycle ever). still bfn this morning. i might splash out on s more expensive test in case my cheapies are duds. humph.

it hadn't crossed my mind to start taking folic acid - I've been waiting to ttc for months blush oops!

BourbonsAndTea Thu 14-Mar-13 15:00:11

Hi can I join you all here? I've been lurking on the Conception board since I had my implant removed in Jan and I'm definitely turning into a Nut Job! It's been 10 weeks since I had my implant out and I haven't even had a withdrawal bleed not even a spot. I've POAS about 6 times all BFN. Fortunately I bought internet cheapies and limiting my self to 1 2 a week. It's so frustrating! I've had loads of 'pregnancy' symptoms too- occasional nausea, random abdominal pains and bloating belly (although I can probably blame that on Winter laziness and pigging out). I read on one of the thread here that you can have all, some or none of the typical pregnancy symptoms at any time whether you're pregnant or not grin I feel like I'd be slightly less crazy if I knew when to expect an AF then I could just wait until I miss one before POAS. I look forward to getting to know you all and hope we all get our BFP's soon smile

BourbonsAndTea Thu 14-Mar-13 15:04:37

haha I just went back to read through all the previous posts and I see it was Genmeg who said about the symptoms grin

ASmidgeofMidge Thu 14-Mar-13 17:34:05

petty I'm now 3 days overdue AF too... Got weird cramps which I thought were pmt related...

smidge i have no pmt or pg type symptoms. i did feel a bit sick in the gym this morning but i think i ate too much for breakfast grin

MortifiedAdams Thu 14-Mar-13 18:17:05

grin I am OP. «hopes OP does not know me as ive told no one im ttc!»

ASmidgeofMidge Thu 14-Mar-13 18:35:54

grin dd banged against one of my boobs before and it hurt a bit...

Tinyflutterby Fri 15-Mar-13 14:01:08

Does anyone know how soon its possible to experience morning sickness? Or has anyone had any personal experience of early nausea as a symptom? I ovulated on Sunday and have been feeling nauseous on and off all week since then. Everything I've read says its not possible, so I'm probably ill or something. AF not due for over a week. Thanks.

MortifiedAdams Fri 15-Mar-13 18:51:46

Ive felt fizzing all afternoon, in the womb area, however the could be becaise I drank a bottle of sparkling water.

DancingInTheMoonlight Fri 15-Mar-13 21:50:03

I'm now really hoping this month isn't a positive month! Ds has chickenpox...

Ninunina Fri 15-Mar-13 23:06:42

tiny I had a constant feeling of nausea very soon after conception so it is possible that it could be morning sickness. FX

Ninunina Fri 15-Mar-13 23:09:38

dancing sorry about DS getting chickenpox. Have you had it before? Hopefully you are immune

af finally decided to grace me with her presence this morning, a very rude 6 days late angry I am mostly angry though because that will put my next expected ov date bang over Easter when we will be staying with my parents in their tiny cramped house so dtd will be pretty much impossible. unless i get a turkey baster... too far?grin

DancingInTheMoonlight Sat 16-Mar-13 09:43:48

Yes I've had it before but i guess there's still a low risk.at least it takes my mind off waiting for af lol

ASmidgeofMidge Sat 16-Mar-13 12:05:07

Still no AF for me.... Am trying not to think about it too much...

ASmidgeofMidge Sat 16-Mar-13 13:12:24

petty AF indeed v rude. Turkey batter definitely too far... If house is cramped there's always the garden grin

2beornot Sat 16-Mar-13 17:18:49

Petty-you'll just have to dtd lots before you go! Sperm lasts longer than eggs, so if you do it early that's ok!

Asmidge - I think you're ring very calm in the circumstances.

My AF is due next fri but that's based on 28 day cycle so could be here on mon. I plan to POAS on wed if no show by then!

MortifiedAdams Sun 17-Mar-13 00:01:00

Are we drinking? Dont know whether to stop 'just incase''

DancingInTheMoonlight Sun 17-Mar-13 07:56:21

With one toddler ds, I'm not stopping wine and coffee until i absolutely have to!

2beornot Sun 17-Mar-13 08:43:14

I have been drinking, not lots but the occasional weekend glass. Although I was feeling a bit headachey last night and chose paracetamol over aspirin!

Tinyflutterby Sun 17-Mar-13 14:10:34

Thanks Ninuina, trying not to obsess about symptoms, but nausea is awful and hard to ignore. Still a week to go.

Just a thought, but maybe we are all actually ovulating later than we think we are and that's why we all think af is late and get in a state about it? Past few cycles my af seems to have been 16 days after ov, which makes me think ov is happening later than I think.

gemmeg Sun 17-Mar-13 18:28:44

My sentiments exactly tiny..... I was 3 days late this month but had really sore nipples and terrible bloating at what I believed to be 4 dpo. I always thought I got this pain and bloating after ov but now I'm thinking it occurs at the same time and I actually ovd later than expected. Doing OPKs but no smiley face yet (it's only cd 14 for me and I believe I ov late anyway). DH has agreed to DTD every other day from now unless I get a +opk in which case we'll do 2 days straight smile.

ASmidgeofMidge Sun 17-Mar-13 21:59:27

Still no af here... Will be a week late on Tues. Trying desperately to resist testing again and symptom spotting but dh working tonight and am consulting Dr Google about (tmi) lots of discharge. Was having crampy pains last week and (tmi again) v constipated with some (passing) nausea - but all gone now; only the discharge remains grin

ASmidgeofMidge Sun 17-Mar-13 21:59:42

How are things with all of you?

Hi ladies - can you help me as I am in need of some advice.

I got a faint second line on my opk on Thursday and I know that generally that means a negative however I summoned my DH and we DTD. On Friday the second line was darker than the control line (cycles are long and irregular so hooray for a positive opk) so we DTD - we also DTD on Saturday night and I was hoping to do the deed on Sunday night too but it just didn't happen - we tried and tried but it wasn't happening hmm

Have I missed the boat this cycle - if I take Friday as the positive opk we DTD the day before the positive, the day of the positive and the day after - is this enough???

Would really appreciate some advice - I know there is nothing I can do to change it but this is my first cycle since my miscarriage a month ago and I want to feel like I'm giving it my best shot - we have generally been DTD every other day throughout the cycle.

Thanks (and sorry for waffling) xx

2beornot Mon 18-Mar-13 07:44:20

Mummytothearkbuilder hopefully someone will be along who knows about OPKs as I have no experience of them. But if you're dtd every other day anyway then I think you would have done it enough. If it doesn't happen this month (and I really hope it does for you) then it won't be through lack of trying!!!

Thanks 2beornot - I am dreading my first AF after the miscarriage so would love to get a BFP instead!!

Hope we have done it enough - it's such a tricky business this ttc lark! X

Ninunina Mon 18-Mar-13 09:54:14

mummytothearkbuilder I think you should have plenty of healthy sperm ready to fertilise that egg. Maybe give it another go tonight for good measure smile
I totally understand that you can't bear to get AF this month. I was the same after my mc and I managed to get a BFP straight away. It caused some confusion with estimated delivery dates, but other than that all was ok. Best of luck xxxx

gemmeg Mon 18-Mar-13 10:08:21

Hi mummy, no I don't think you've missed the boat. It sounds as if you've caught it just right. Good luck.

asmidge you are an absolute warrior for not testing again! It all sounds good so far though, doesn't it?

Well, I never got round to DTD either last night. DS ill and kept me up til 11pm then just couldn't be arsed didn't have the energy. Feel bad now for getting on DH's case! Hoping for a smiley opk v.soon.

Ooh I hope we get some more BFPs this month! If my cycle is as long as the last one then AF is due on 31st. It's the day of DS' birthday party so I'm hoping that will take my mind off things as there's loads still to do. Also didn't DTD the day of ovulation (but did the 3 nights previously) as I fell asleep and DH didn't have the heart to wake me up!

Just found out a friend is 7 weeks so it'd be lovely to get a BFP this month! Plus it would avoid having to make the decision whether to have a break next cycle to avoid a Christmas baby <neurotic>

nomoreminibreaks I am actually hoping for a December baby so me, dh and ds can have our first christmas in our new house (although the house bit might go tits up!) and I will have a good excuse not to travel anywhere grin

I'm not normally so miserly but ALL our family live within a mile of each other in N. Wales and since DS arrived I spend every holiday at home driving round visiting people for days on end AND i have to share a room with ds who is normally a good sleeper, but not if he is sharing. I love christmas with the family but last year did me in! Pre ds I would just go home and lie on my mums sofa for a long wkend as no one was arsed about seeing me grin. Humph. rant over.

oh and any news smidge?

Hi ladies - thank you so much for replying - I really appreciate it - I am certainly living up to the thread title and turning into a nut job!!

We have DTD again this evening (didn't want to wait until later and risk being too tired!!) fingers crossed!! Xx

Tinyflutterby Mon 18-Mar-13 20:15:06

Does anyone think we should have a [chocolate] smiley? I'm not fussed about tea, coffee or wine, but I do like to indulge in some chocolate (especially if obsessing, which is often).

MortifiedAdams Mon 18-Mar-13 21:36:19

Im ovulating NOW two whole days later than I thought , and am at bloody work til midnight. Will just have to wake dh up when I get in wink

What I thought was conception was probably just gas and tiredness.

MortifiedAdams Mon 18-Mar-13 21:37:48

Also have worked out that if we conceive this month, dc2 will arrive on or around dds birthday so we can have all the birthdays and christmas all together.

gemmeg Tue 19-Mar-13 08:04:25

Feeling pretty low today....as I said before, we didn't get round to DTD on Sunday as DS was ill and I was knackered by the time I went to bed so we said we'd do it Monday instead, well that never happened either. Got no idea when/if I'm going to ov this month as DS has been waking in the night to feed a lot. Just hope the OPKs haven't missed my LH surge and I get a smiley face so I can at least have the feeling we did something this month sad. Started off so hopeful for this month.

Tinyflutterby Tue 19-Mar-13 13:34:59

Gemmeg, sorry to hear you're feeling low. It really is a rollercoaster isn't it? We spend half our time anticipating ov, then about a week worrying whether we've dtd at the right time, then 2 agonising weeks of waiting, trying not to obsess over symptoms, building up our hopes with countless bfn's, only to have our hopes dashed again by the arrival of af. I feel your pain. I'm so wound up I'm not even sleeping now.

2beornot Tue 19-Mar-13 18:12:25

Don't despair gemmeg. You don't know if you've ov yet so it prob wont matter that you didn't dtd sun/mon. I hope you get your smiley face soon.

I need a slap!!! I planned to POAS tomorrow which is two days before AF due. But couldn't help myself and did it today. It wasn't even an early response test (accidentally got the wrong ones). So of course it was a BFN but if course I can't help but think that's it for another month (sigh). Partly because af came 4 days early last month. So should I buy an early one and do it tomorrow or thurs, or wait til Fri when AF is due?

ASmidgeofMidge Tue 19-Mar-13 18:24:32

Hi nut jobs. Cracked yesterday and did test-still bfn. But still no af. Aaaargh! Sorry to hear you're feeling low gemmeg - it is a real roller coaster as tiny says and there's so much waiting in the whole process :-(

ASmidgeofMidge Tue 19-Mar-13 18:30:24

Hi nut jobs. Cracked yesterday and did test-still bfn. But still no af. Aaaargh! Sorry to hear you're feeling low gemmeg - it is a real roller coaster as tiny says and there's so much waiting in the whole process :-(

coffeewineandchocolate Tue 19-Mar-13 18:36:33

AF due on friday but also cracked and POAS. Bfn- not surprising really

Sorry you are feeling low gemmeg - you may not have missed ovulation yet and still in with a chance - fingers crossed lovely!
I agree with tiny - every part of the cycle brings its own set of worries and waiting!! Xx

gemmeg Tue 19-Mar-13 19:22:32

Thanks nutters flowers. No smiley today but feeling twinges in my tum. Perhaps I've had it wrong the past months and get these twinges before ov....doesn't look as though we'll get down to it tonight either as DH feels sick. Oh we'll, I've accepted it's not to be this month.

Chin up 2be it's certainly not over for you yet esp if you tested with a normal pg test. Try with the first response if you really can't wait. It ain't over til the old hag shows up wink

Gemmeg - not sure about everyone else but I get twinges before a positive OPK - about 2 days before - not sure if that helps x

gemmeg Tue 19-Mar-13 20:07:22

Thanks mummy. I usually have a week of unbelievable bloating and soreness but have always assumed this is after ov (dunno why) so I'm leaving it to the opk to tell me what's going on this time. I'm just hoping that my LP is going to be long enough to support pg....oh well, I should stop second guessing and just wait and see I suppose. I'M JUST SO IMPATIENT!!!grin

MortifiedAdams Tue 19-Mar-13 21:24:53

The waiting is hard isnt it! I have 1st April in mind to POAS and a stick set aside for it, if AF doesnt appear. lord knos if ill manage to wait til then.

My boss is making mumurings about one of tye staff "I think shes pg" type chatter and I keep sayong sternly "its against the law for you to ask!!" grin will feel deceitful if I get a bfp next month and end up being the one who is. Especially as Ive only been back at work six months from last mat leave.

ASmidgeofMidge Wed 20-Mar-13 09:32:27

I don't understand <wails and throws toys out of pram> I dont think I've got a proper grasp of 'cycles' at all. If no AF but bfn, can anyone help me with what that means? Did I not ovulate, or maybe ovulated later than expected? DH and I have struggled a bit with dtd this last month: dtd on cd14, 16 and another day I forgot to note but work shifts since then have made it difficult. Those days were marked on my app as ovulation days, and have noted my cycle length as being 28-32 days on months I've remembered to track..

Hi asmidge - how late are you? I completely understand how you feel. I was 5 days late last month after tracking for quite a few months. In the end when AF arrived I was actually just relieved to know one way or the other and then drank a load of gin

ASmidgeofMidge Wed 20-Mar-13 10:16:53

Am now 8 days late...

ASmidgeofMidge Wed 20-Mar-13 10:18:43

The other thing I'm not sure about is if AF just doesn't appear at all this month, for some non-preganancy random reason, will I still ovulate at predicted time? (Currently end of March) Sorry about all my questions!

Smidge - it's such a horrible waiting game isn't it hmm even if you didn't ovulate then you would still have a period as your body will need to get rid of the thickened womb lining that's happened in preparation for the egg release (sorry if that tmi). My cycles are rubbish and I can often have a period without ovulation (which is rubbish!!).

Do you use OPK? X

ASmidgeofMidge Wed 20-Mar-13 13:07:49

Hi mummy-it's ridiculous as this is the first cycle TTC and I'm so impatient. Think the thing is for me that have spent last 9m coming off some meds o I could start TTC so in my head have been trying longer iykwim ? No, daren't use opk's as think I would get ultra obsessive! Am planning to just track using app and cm...

ASmidgeofMidge Wed 20-Mar-13 13:08:11

*so

I completely understand what you mean - me and DH spoke about trying for number 2 for few months before I came off cerezette so in my mind those few months of talking about it are added to the time we have been ttc.

We have been trying since May 2012 and I had a BFP on 13th jan but miscarried on 15th feb so this is my first cycle and I am already putting so much pressure on myself - I wish I was a go with the flow type of gal but I am most definitely not!!

Have you always had regular cycles? X

ASmidgeofMidge Wed 20-Mar-13 13:42:53

Pretty regular, give or take 2-3 days...

You may have ovulated later which would mean your BFP would show up later (fingers crossed). Have you spoken to your drs?

This is my first cycle tracking ovulation and using OPK - does anyone one know how I count my DPO - I got a positive OPK on Friday so do I count from there making me 5dpo.

Sorry if that's a really obviously question! smile

smidge sorry to hear you are still waiting, hope something happens either way... maybe visit Dr if no af or bfp by day 10?
re opks - i think they show that you will ovulate in the next 24-48 hours? so maybe count the dpo 24hrs after lh surge?

gemmeg Wed 20-Mar-13 20:18:43

I'm in a right old tizz! Been having abdominal twinges/mild cramps the past couple of days and (tmi) LOADS of milky but fairly stretchy cm.....would love to be DTD tonight but DH was vomming his guts up yesterday night so is still out of action. Still no smiley but surely it must be round the corner??? DH better have recovered by then!

Gemmeg sounds like you are onto a winner!! I get twinges and the milky stretchy discharge a few days before I get a positive opk - fingers crossed you DH gets better soon! X

2beornot Thu 21-Mar-13 10:02:10

Another month, another fail. sad

I really thought it would happen this month. I guess because it happened so quickly with dd that I presumed dtd at the right times would be all it took. But we did it lots (well 4-5 times at the right time) so it was just one of those things.

At Christmas I kept thinking that we'd be a family of four by next Christmas and that's another milestone gone.

I always thought that I'd stop for month now because both dd and DH have January birthdays, but if I got pregnant next month, it'd be due around Boxing Day. So then I'd have to have next month off too so I think I'll just keep going.

I just wanna go "Waaaah! It's not fair!"

gemmeg Thu 21-Mar-13 10:19:14

Sorry to hear that 2be sad. I so know what you mean about high expectations. I also fell pg quickly with DS and while TTC I remember telling myself it could take as long as a year so I was more relaxed. This time round I'm so much more anxious as I know how quickly it could happen. It also looks like we'll be leaving it for this month what with DH being ill and all. Anyway, I hear April is a great month to conceive wink. Got a feeling it'll be our month xx

gemmeg Thu 21-Mar-13 10:20:47

It would be so nice for some of us to get our BFPs at the same time so we can keep this thread going through pregnancy. Fingers crossed!!

Whatsdoneisdoneisdone Thu 21-Mar-13 10:29:13

Can I join? We've been ttc dc2 for 20 cycles. Ds was conceive cycle 1. I'm now having fertility investigations, day 21 bloods and dh's tests fine. I think that my previous emergency c section has left some sort of problem and I feel very very bitter about it.

My best friend has had her second baby today. In contrast I have started my period today and am off for a fertility appointment this afternoon. I feel very depressed. I am actually considering going to the gp for anti depressants.

gemmeg Thu 21-Mar-13 10:38:06

Hi there whatsdoneisdone I hope you get some answers soon. I also know of someone who is having fertility issues after having an easy first conception and an emergency c-section. Do you know for sure your c-section is the issue? You've come to the right place for moral support. Let it all out on here!

Whatsdoneisdoneisdone Thu 21-Mar-13 11:01:08

I don't but I can't see what else has changed. Cycles very predictable, 28 days, know exactly when ovulating so definitely getting the timing right.
I think that with 20 attempts at exactly the right time I should have fallen pregnant unless something was wrong.

I now also have a lot of pain around ovulation. I always experienced some pain but the actual day of ovulation is now very painful. The dr said that it is unlikely that a c section would cause infertility and irl everyone I know that has had a c section has had no problems getting pregnant again. However a quick google shows that while is night not be common it definitely can happen.

Tinyflutterby Thu 21-Mar-13 16:10:07

Welcome What, I understand what you're going through right now. It took 2 years for me to get pg first time and it is incredibly difficult to keep going without feeling depressed.

My sister got pg 'by accident' and just had her baby this week, which I'm finding very hard as we've been ttc#2 properly for 6 cycles this time round now without success. I've actually been in tears most of this week as a result and dh just doesn't understand it.

As for the pain around ovulation, I don't know about anyone else, but both times I've been ttc I didn't have pain to start with then the longer we ttc the most intense the pain becomes. I try to look on this as a positive sign that I am definetly ovulating and a good indicator of when we should be dtd.

I also had a c section first time round and often wonder if that may be having an impact this time as I have heard that scar tissue can be a prob. We had fertility investigations first time round and my gp said she would refer us again if nothing has happened this current cycle or the next one. At least you are now underway with the investigations and will hopefully get some answers soon.

On another note, I noticed a few people on here don't seem to want xmas babies. Personally I would be so overjoyed just to be pg that I don't care when birthdays fall!

Tinyflutterby Thu 21-Mar-13 16:18:34

Meant to ask if anyone knows what I should do. I have a hosp appoint on Mon and will very probably be having a x-ray, however af is also due Mon/Tue. Am hoping if I'm not pg that af will turn up before I go because if not I'm facing having to POAS before I'm late and before I feel ready to test (I don't actually share the POAS obsession! I'm terrified of doing it as I can't deal with the negative outcome) Thanks.

2beornot Thu 21-Mar-13 18:10:54

Hi whatsdone. You are more than welcome here. Your 20 months make me three look pathetic though! I don't about c-section causing problems but I do know that we are all that little bit older and in my case a little bit heavier so it's bound to take a little bit longer.

tiny I understand your pain. Whilst you feel so happy for others, it just reminds you of your own situation. I actually don't care about Christmas, but I will be resigned to being skint every January. That said DH and I have spoken and decided to keep trying. I don't care that much!!! I don't know what you should do - I do have the POAS obsession!!

Finally, does anyone know if you'd still have a period if you didn't ovulate. I remember having a pain on my left side (about where my kidneys are) but deaf no EWCM so I don't even know if I did ovulate. Is it time for the OPKs?

Whatsdoneisdoneisdone Thu 21-Mar-13 18:28:42

So basically the fertility consultant I saw today said he could refer me for an hsg but to think about whether it's really worth it because the nhs won't do anything anyway because I already have a child.

If the hsg shows there's a problem and we'd need help to conceive the nhs won't do anything.

If the hsg shows no problem, then again the nhs won't do anything.

So either way the nhs won't do anything!

Hi ladies!! 2beornot, you will still have a period even if you didn't ovulate as your body has to get rid of the thickened womb lining your body produces in preparation for ovulation. I have really irregular cycles and took it that I was ovulating as I was having periods but my dr told me otherwise - that's the reason I use opks.

I would love a Christmas baby - love the idea that instead of a 'bun in the oven' I would have a Christmas pudding growing nicely inside!! Xx

Ninunina Thu 21-Mar-13 19:36:33

It's officially the 1st day of spring and we all know what that means. ... its mating time. I'm sorry to hear that so many of you are feeling a bit low about not getting that bfp yet, but let's all remain positive and try not to stress about it. I have so many friends that struggled to get pregnant, underwent fertility treatments and then got pregnant by accident a few months after the baby was born. It goes to show how stress can and does effect fertility.
Two of my friends announced their pregnancy this week. Both of them were not planned. One is a bridesmaid at the same wedding as me in July so she is standing down and her ds will be a page boy instead. I really can't let my friend down now by getting pregnant before the wedding, so I'm going to be a bit more careful (well, maybe not in June).
AF arrived today, so i can start studying my cycle now. I think I get my ovulation pain after I ovulate. Is that possible?

coffeewineandchocolate Thu 21-Mar-13 20:32:53

Think I'm out this month too. Due tomorrow and feel the dreaded cramping... Cracked and did a poas yesterday and it was negative... Roll on April!

2beornot Thu 21-Mar-13 20:46:57

ninunina I know what you are saying, but someone telling me not to stress is like telling me not to breathe!! It wouldn't be so bad if AF didn't dump a fresh batch of hormones every time she comes. I am remaining positive though. We've got two weddings to go to that I can now enjoy a celebratory drink (one without dd too!) and I'm already looking forward to a "Christmas pudding in the oven" (love that phrase mummytoarkbuilder).

coffee I'm really sorry to hear that. It may sound odd but I genuinely hope others get their BFPs. Seems like this thread is actually doing some good if we get at least one BFP every month!

Coffee I don't want to give you false hope but that's exactly how I felt when it turned out I was pregnant with DS. You never know!

I'm going out tomorrow night and feel like drinking and smoking as if to dare myself to be pregnant this cycle. The obsessive me hasn't emerged yet but still 10 days to go until AF due so plenty of time for the rambling nut job to come out!

Feel bad for so many of us being down about it. 3 cycles drove me round the bend last time so I can easily see how that could turn into depression.

At least we can all be honest with each other on here without fear of being judged. I think it's hard for our DPs/DHs to understand how it takes over us sometimes and that hormones are also a cruel addition to the process at the exact time we don't need them.

I'm starting to think I'll forget about avoiding a Christmas baby if it doesn't happen this month. I'm too impatient!

ASmidgeofMidge Thu 21-Mar-13 20:53:11

Hi... A few people have mentioned cheapy preg and opk tests - might buy some online. Don't have an eBay account - has anyone bought from Amazon and can recommend?

Tinyflutterby Thu 21-Mar-13 21:52:59

Asmidge - I bought cheap OPK's from Amazon (company called home Health UK Ltd), got 30 for about £5, but if you buy a bigger batch it works out cheaper. They were a bit fiddly but if you follow the instructions seem to work just as well as the more expensive ones.

What - am confused that nhs would do investigations then not do anything about it. I did wonder when my gp said she would refer me this time as I didn't think anyone would help me second time around. There is something called Secondary Infertility, basically that you have one child then don't seem to be able to have any more, but I would think (or hope) that they would help if they are going to the trouble of investigating it. Just a thought, but maybe if you found out what was wrong, could you afford to have treatment privately?

Hang in there, it may just take a bit longer this time. I thought it may be easier for me second time as everyone says you are more fertile after having one baby, but at almost 36 I have that against me now too.

gemmeg Fri 22-Mar-13 06:58:17

I have also tried cheapy OPKs which I got from amazon. As tiny says, they were about a fiver for 30. I also bought the clearblue digital tests to try. Yesterday I did a cheapy at 11am=neg, cb at 4pm=neg then a cheapy at 8pm which I think was pos but DH still not feeling 109%. I'm going to do a cb one this morning to see if I get a smiley face and hope he can manage it later

I just realised yesterday that I've been counting my LP wrong and i believe it's actually shorter than I thought at just 9 days sad. I cant be totally sure as i dont know exactly when i ov and af might come late again. I've ordered some agnus castus and vitamin b to try to lengthen it. Does anyone else have experience with these? If I do get a pos opk then I thought we'd just have a go and see what happens.

gemmeg Fri 22-Mar-13 09:34:44

Just got my smiley smile.

Great news gemmeg - hope your DH feels better as he as a busy weekend wink

I am also worried about my LP as I have had a couple of short ones - I may start taking vitamin B to help lengthen it x

gemmeg Fri 22-Mar-13 10:15:13

I don't care if he feels like it or not mummy grin. He can lie back and think of England if he wants, ha ha ha!! Just kidding, I hope he's up to it but if not then at least I know now that I ov a lot later than I first thought so we can plan for next month.

2beornot Fri 22-Mar-13 15:24:50

Excellent news gemmeg. I think I am going to try OPKs if this cycle doesn't work. I don't know when/if I'm ovulating so it would be reassurance. Although I do have quite regular cycles so I'm guessing cd14+/- 1day is a pretty good estimate. I was quite down yesterday, but am looking forward now.

Tinyflutterby Fri 22-Mar-13 15:55:31

Very nervous now as af due just after the weekend. Mildly sore boobs, no cramps, lots of cm (usually have very sore boobs and lots of cramps by now). Trying to keep busy but weather horrendous so can't get out to take my mind off it. Coping strategies anyone?

ASmidgeofMidge Fri 22-Mar-13 16:37:44

Thanks for tips about opk. Have ordered the Home Health ones. Af came today! Just shows I'm ov-ing later than I thought too- I think all those symptoms were ov symptoms! tiny ... I think keeping busy is the only way, but it didn't always work for me

Ladies I think I'm out this cycle hmm I have had back ache for the past 2 days and today I have loads of cm (white ish colour) what does this mean?? I only got a positive OPK last Friday so can only be 6dpo at most.

I have been worried about my luteal phase (not sure if spelling) and don't need lengthen that on top general stress of ttc!!

Feeling a bit down hmm I know it's not over until AF appears but I hate not knowing what's going on with my body - what the hell is with the masses of cm!! Xx

gemmeg Fri 22-Mar-13 19:59:00

Sorry to hear you're feeling down mummy. As you said it's not over til the wicked witch arrives. It's so hard to tell which symptoms could mean pg and which are just pre-menstrual, isn't it? There are so many "symptoms" I've noticed in my body in the past month that I never realised occurred before I started looking for them. Last month I had sore nipples [which I NEVER had before] and also had loads of milky cm right before AF started. I took these as pg signs but along came AF. I know it's hard when all you want is any sign of pg but I think it does us nut jobs no good to analyse every little symptom. As I said in a post way back on this thread "you may or may not have some or any symptoms whether pg or not"..... Keeping my fingers crossed for you.

MortifiedAdams Fri 22-Mar-13 20:01:41

When is the absolute earliest you can POAS?

gemmeg Fri 22-Mar-13 20:13:23

Not sure with the first response tests but with normal cheapy ones it's usually 1st day of missed AF. If you do it before hand you may get a false result (i.e it comes up + but then AF arrives or comes up neg even though you're pg as there isn't enough hormone). Depends if you want to risk it.

2beornot Sat 23-Mar-13 07:33:21

First response ones are supposed to be up to 7 days before AF due. But I'm sceptical!! I wouldn't do it until 2 days before really without expecting a neg. IIRC though, you'll never get a false positive, just a false negative.

coffeewineandchocolate Sat 23-Mar-13 08:15:39

No af yet but still paos -ve... Sore boobs, cm and tender tho

MortifiedAdams Sat 23-Mar-13 09:42:25

Am feeling very vommy last night and today sad and grin in hopefully equal measures.

Ninunina Sun 24-Mar-13 07:33:05

FX mortified & coffee when are you due to test? Hoping for a bfp from someone soon to really get the ball rolling grin

gemmeg Sun 24-Mar-13 08:26:54

Well we're def out for March as we didn't DTD at all and I'm pretty sure it's necessary to get pg grin. I've told DH he's got to do double shifts next month to make up for it. On the plus side, at least I now know I ov a lot later than I thought thanks to OPKs and can feel more confident we'll get the timing right next month. Just hoping AF doesn't show until 3rd April which would give me an LP of 10 days. FX to all those POAS v.soon!!

Tinyflutterby Sun 24-Mar-13 09:22:57

Gemmeg, I share your confidence with the OPK's as I too seem to have been ov slightly later than I initially thought. Personally I like to feel I have some degree of control over situations because then I can take action on them. Shame you didn't dtd, but just try to think it wasn't meant to be this time.

My af due tommorow I think, am all over the place with nerves, no cramps this time, just sore boobs. Hate this bit.

coffeewineandchocolate Sun 24-Mar-13 11:03:53

Still no af despite being due on Fri. Sore boobs and bloated and bfn tho....

Tinyflutterby Mon 25-Mar-13 13:05:26

Going a bit mad I think. Af due today, feels like going to start any minute. Couldn't sleep last night for thinking about it, wish it would just hurry up if it's going to, can't stand the wondering.

coffeewineandchocolate Mon 25-Mar-13 13:29:05

Same tiny. Mine was due on Fri and still no af

Tinyflutterby Mon 25-Mar-13 15:59:42

Coffee - if I am late and getting bfn's I think I've miscalculated when I 'v ov.

Can't stand the waiting. I got a +OPK two week's past on Saturday, which means I prob would have ov on the Monday at the latest, so thought af should be here by now given that's two full weeks today. Think I may have a 16 day luteal phase though, just to make the agonising wait even longer. To test or not to test, that is the question.

coffeewineandchocolate Mon 25-Mar-13 16:20:45

I'm normally bang on 28 day cycle still thus is very odd for me but perhaps my body is still getting back to normal after contraception. Don't feel premenstrual another tho....weird

Tinyflutterby Mon 25-Mar-13 19:36:46

Coffee - maybe the hormone levels aren't sufficient to show up on a pg test and you're getting a false negative? I would try again in a couple of days if your cycle is usually very regular. Mine isn't so everything is a totally unknown quantity, incredibly frustrating - I'm now at 38 days. Thinking I'm probably due tommorow now if I only ov on Monday 2 weeks ago, going by a 16 day luteal phase.

Just checking in to see how everyone is doing. How come our normally regular cycles are going tits up as soon as we ttc???

Good luck tiny and coffee grin

I'll be starting on the OPK's this week. I should in theory ov at the end of this week, early next week (while me and dh are staying at my parents!) so I'm actually hoping I do OV a bit later. On the other hand I have a hen weekend to go to mid April and so that's when AF would be due.... I don't want to miss out on drinking sangria and Archers and lemonde and reliving my youth

winterpansy Mon 25-Mar-13 20:08:44

Hello, haven't been on this thread for a wee while. Hope everyone is OK!
I'm patiently waiting on AF fecking off so we can get down to business for cycle 2. I've been a little bit down in the dumps about not conceiving 1st cycle (I know it was a very small chance though!) but have picked myself up and hope April is our month. Delighted to know that this cycle was only 30 days and not 36 like last time. One of my best friends is about to give birth any day now so that is helping distract me in a funny way!
DS is also being wonderfully behaved and very cute so he puts me in good form.

Plan of action is to start OPKs at the end of the and start dtd every day from Sat/Sun (ov should be around 8th april).

My AF arrived this morning - first one since miscarriage and I am gutted - I thought we might have managed to get a BFP before my first period - feels like I am reliving the miscarriage hmm I don't know what else to do - we dtd every other day and the for 3 days when I got my OPK - I am only 8-10 DPO which means I have a short LP - does anyone know whether its possible to fall pregnant with a short luteal phase? X

gemmeg Tue 26-Mar-13 10:26:12

Sorry to hear that mummy....i think you need an LP of at least 10 days to conceive although I have read stories of women achieving it with less but I think these are exceptions to the rule. I too believe I have a short LP so I'm going to start taking Angus Castus on the first day of my next AF and stop taking it when I ov. I'm also going to take vitamin b6 to lengthen it. I've heard really good reviews of Agnus Castus so I've bought some from Holland and Barrett. How long ago was your mc?

Ninunina Tue 26-Mar-13 10:49:04

Sorry to hear AF arrived mummy! I'm sure it's very hard for you. I was very much like you after my mc and was determined to fall pregnant straight away. Don't judge your cycle too much this time though. It is known as the WTF cycle since it seems to have a. mind of its own. On the plus side, now that you've got your first AF it will be easier to date future pregnancies, which doesn't mean much now, but could save you an unnecessary induction or cs at the end of the pregnancy if they got the dates wrong (I'm convinced they did with me).

Tinyflutterby Tue 26-Mar-13 13:56:21

Mummy, sorry to hear you feel like you're reliving the mc with af, that must be awful for you. Perhaps your body just needs a little time to rebalance itself and ensure you are in the best condition you can be for pg.

I have opposite problem of long lp. Was expecting af yesterday based on 14 days lp, but looked back at my diary and looks more like I have a 16 day lp. So not only do I ov really late (day 24 this time), but I then have more than a 2ww after ov. We're looking at a 40 day cycle this time and its driving me CRAZY as ttc is taking so much longer than it would if I had a 'normal' length cycle. Af due tommorow. I'm also going to try Vitex Agnus Castus next cycle.

Thanks ladies- Gemmeg, my miscarraige was 15th February and my cycles are roughly 6 weeks / 40ish days, so I was due this weekend but AF has come a few days early. I havent had any pmt, stomach cramps or massive headache (which I normally get) - the only thing I have had is backache for the past few days plus since it started this morning it has been super light (I have a pad on but there is only the tinest amount on there) and only a brown blood (sorry if thats tmi). Normally becuase i have endometreosis my periods are really heavy - any ideas??? x

Tinyflutterby Tue 26-Mar-13 14:11:15

Mummy, don't want to get your hopes up but with my first pg I had a very small amount of blood a few days early and it turned out it was implantation bleeding. Have you POAS?

I did on Saturday but have since read that it was probably too early (it was a BFN), I got a positive OPK on 15th March so on Saturday would have been a maximum of 7DPO.

I feel silly for thinking its anything other than AF, however it is the polar opposite of my normally period (I have to take medication from the Dr every period just to be able to function and go to work etc) so this has thrown me a bit - I guess it could be my body could still be knackered from the miscarriage however that was 25th Feb and I as I had the positive OPK I thought things were settling down and getting back to normal (ish).

I will see how it goes over the next few days - thanks for posting - the support is so helpful xx

Tinyflutterby Tue 26-Mar-13 15:23:15

That's ok, I hope it works out for you. I'd do another test in a couple of days if nothing happens.

Think I'll have to go back to my gp, as both me and my dh think I'm properly depressed. Just can't believe I'm struggling ttc again, feel so worthless and no-one understands when you already have one dc.

Oh Tiny, I understand hun, it is so hard when you want something so much. TTC to such a hard and confusing time and no matter how much you try and relax or have patience it is always on your mind (I know its always on mine!!). I dont know about you but I put myself under extreme pressure, espeically since my miscarraige in feb, and then when my period arrives so does the self loathing. Of course we love our dc#1 more than anything but that doesnt mean our desire to fall pregnant is any less than someone with no dc, and I think that is what I struggle to get across to people.

xxx

2beornot Tue 26-Mar-13 19:24:29

Hi ladies.

Have been away in a course, so only just caught up. I'm sorry to hear how some of you are feeling. I have been fortunate not to have suffered from a miscarriage, but I do empathise. Sometimes we can do everything right but for some reason it just doesn't stick.

I'm going to have a read up on cycles, lp, ov etc. as you all seem very knowledgeable and I feel so ignorant.

Tinyflutterby Tue 26-Mar-13 21:43:44

Thanks Mummy for being so understanding. I can't think of anything else either and I want it so much it hurts. I may not feel so bad if every cycle wasn't so long, but 40 odd days each time is just too much time wasted and more than necessary time worrying and wondering. I promised myself I wouldn't get so uptight this cycle, but am thoroughly fed up now and just wish af would hurry up so I can move on to 'better luck next time'. Going to see my one-week-old niece tommorow, no doubt af will appear too, just to kick me when I'm already down.

2b - the only reason I seem to know a lot about cycles is in total I've spent about 3 years ttc and you learn a thing or two with that much study! Perhaps some of us should be awarded Diplomas or something?xxx

gemmeg Wed 27-Mar-13 12:06:02

I can't even begin to understand how it must feel to TTC for 3 years as I've never been in that situation but what I can empathise with is the desire to have another child. I have a couple of friends who are resolute about only having 1 DC and there is no changing their minds so the same must go for us ladies who absolutely want to expand the family. It's a strong biological urge that doesn't rest until it's fulfilled. At least we all understand how that feels.

I agree with tiny....I could lecture on ov, LP, LP defects etc! If you need to know anything 2be then let us know grin.

Well, my strange AF is definetley not implanting bleeding - AF is here with a bang today!! However I am remaining postive - I had a positive OPK this cycle which is fab (Drs thought I wasnt ovulating before my miscarraige) and although my cycle was 40 days I have looked back and they are all between 38-43 days so although they are long at least they are a bit more regular which makes me feel a bit more optimistic.

AF is pretty much the same as before the miscarriage so I have armed myself with large pads, my prescription painkillers and I'm off to my friends for a couple of nights for good food and crap tv (this was pre-arrannged but I thinking now nicely timed with the arrival of AF).

I also agree with tiny about the knowledge we gather when ttc - between us we could write a book!! xx

coffeewineandchocolate Wed 27-Mar-13 20:13:31

Af also here at last so i can finally start tracking!

Anyone else waiting for AF then this month? I am, but I feel those familiar cramps coming...

MortifiedAdams Wed 27-Mar-13 23:43:49

AF due Friday for me. Told DH Im POAS on the 1st if its.not here by then and he said "no! Wait til the 15th - give it a chamce to be late" doesnt he know me at all ?!?!?

not told him ive already POAS twice bfn

your Dh wants to wait an extra 2 weeks mortified???? is he insane? i couldn't wait an extra 2 hours grin
really not sure we are going to manage dtd this cycle, but image keeping my fingers crossed i ov late again this month ( never thought id say that!)

MortifiedAdams Wed 27-Mar-13 23:51:33

I know. I said id be giving birth by the time he wants to test. Strange man.

Weve only.managed a bit.of sporadic shagging this.month as work has been mega hectic so the likelihood is ill be off the bus come the weekend but I can still dream.

It was this.month two years ago I fell pg with dd so I thought it would be extra nice to ave their birthdays close to each other.

MortifiedAdams Thu 28-Mar-13 06:55:17

Grrr....ususal pre-AF cramps last night. Feel a bit vommy though this morning but that could be serious lack of sleep.

ASmidgeofMidge Thu 28-Mar-13 16:40:53

Hi, just checking in to see how you all are. AF still here so nothing doing here. Glad to at least know and have a clear month of tracking ahead. OPK has arrived

Tinyflutterby Fri 29-Mar-13 14:26:56

Hi everyone, well after doing my 2ww then discovering my lp was in fact 16 days and waiting to see if af would show up, I POAS yesterday morning (17 days dpo) and got a BFP!!! Was not expecting that at all and nearly fainted when I looked at the result. The only difference in my usual pmt symptoms was that the cramps were a lot milder and I have had indigestion for a few days, but just put it down to too many Easter eggs!

If it helps at all, I did two things differently this cycle - used OPK's instead of guessing and I saw a Medical Herbalist who prescribed me a mixture of different herbs. Coincidentally, the first time I got pg I also saw her and got pg straight away on the herb mixture (after 2 years ttc).

I would just like to thank all of you for your support and good luck!xxx

coffeewineandchocolate Fri 29-Mar-13 16:03:33

tiny congratulations! Lots of chocolate and no wine for you! I'm in the grips of af so taking advantage of Easter to enjoy some nice food before ttc again :-)

Tiny congratulations!!! So happy for you and thrilled that we're averaging a BFP every month on here!

I still have my fingers crossed. I'm on day 31 now (cycle last month was 33 days but the previous few were 27-29 days). Have so far resisted POAS and haven't had any symptoms apart from a bit of nausea when I'm thinking about it

gemmeg Fri 29-Mar-13 19:16:25

Wow! That's brilliant tiny!!!! Was one of the herbs Agnus Castus by any chance?

2beornot Fri 29-Mar-13 19:40:25

Yey!!!! Fantastic news tiny!!!!!

Not been here for a bit but excellent news to come back to. And fingers crossed nomore & mortified.

I'm about to enter my fertile period so lots of dtd. If it doesn't work this month then I am definitely moving onto OPKs!!

Tiny that is amazing news - congratulations, I do happy for you.

AF is still here, hopefully I'm coming to the end of it soon and it then its back with the OPK and waiting (and trying to relax while compulsively obsessing!!)

Everything seems slightly better though when you have extra days off work and chocolate everywhere you look!!

Tiny - I'm intrigued by these herbs........can you tell us more??? X

Tinyflutterby Sat 30-Mar-13 14:45:54

Thanks so much guys!

Gemmeg and Mummy (and anyone else interested in herbs) - you really need to go to a qualified Medical Herbalist as they will take a full case history and tailor make the prescription specifically to your individual needs. If you go to http://www.nimh.org.uk/ you can search for a registered herbalist in your area. You can of course buy herbs yourself but I felt it was better to go to someone qualified as they know what they're doing and can treat lots of issues surrounding the menstrual cycle. The aim for me was to regulate and shorten my cycle.

I had Vitex Agnus Castus for days 1-14 + a mixture of about 8 different herbs which I took every day. I will warn you, they taste VILE, but if you're like me (and I think you are) you get so desperate to conceive that you'll do anything! Its also quite expensive, but cheaper than the hundreds of OPK's and pg tests I've already spent money on. I'd be really interested to know if the herbs work for anyone else. Good luck!xxx

AF just arrived...

I've decided that we tone the effort down next month and use the next cycle to shift some weight. I'm spending half my month with an excuse not to start any serious exercise or radical diet so now's the time. I weigh as much now as I did at 9 months pregnant so I'm thinking Atkins, 30 day shred and running as soon as the snow's gone from the pavements.

Ninunina Sat 30-Mar-13 18:15:20

Great news tiny grin
what a lovely easter surprise!

congratulations tiny grin

MortifiedAdams Sat 30-Mar-13 23:48:35

Congrats tiny

AF was due friday but isnt always dot.on so I intend toPOAS on Monday. Am having lots and lots of EWCM which is odd as I really only ever jave that arpund ovulation. Is it a sign?

ASmidgeofMidge Sun 31-Mar-13 09:09:47

Brilliant news tiny - congratulations!

Ninunina Mon 01-Apr-13 08:17:05

mortified have you POAS yet? FX

MortifiedAdams Mon 01-Apr-13 08:25:16

Not yet - dont have one in the house so.need to pick.one up today. I was up at fove for a wee and forgot to save it so am keeping legs crossed as long as possible til.next pee so hopefully that works.

Sorry to be gross!

Loanna Mon 01-Apr-13 15:05:23

Hello everyone, please can I join this thread? I have been logging on since mid March when I started my 1st cycle TTC #2. I have been trying not to turn into a nut job but I'm sure as we all know its practically impossible. I am currently in the middle of my fertile period, not using OPKs yet. My DD is 4 yrs and was conceived in the first cycle TTC #1 I was 25 at the time so 5 years on I am aware things could be different. Fingers crossed for many a BFP within the next few months smile

MortifiedAdams Mon 01-Apr-13 15:08:28

Welcome Loanna and good luck!

gemmeg Mon 01-Apr-13 19:28:14

Hi Loanna! I also conceived DS1 quickly so I think in our case our expectations are set high....that said there are a couple of us on here who had issues conceiving 1st time around so their anxieties of trying a second time are there from the start. Damned to nut-jobness however you look at itgrin. I'm the same about the same age as you but my DS is only 17months. Good luck with your BFP!

Well I possibly got ewcm and a surge today (not 100% sure on either) and if my cycle is normal I should be ov around now, plus I am back home from a family weekend away sooooo..... now I have bloody come down with ds's bug and tbh dtd is the last thing in the world I want to do. GRRR.
I didn't manage to use the opks leading up to today so will keep my fingers crossed for a day 2 surge tomorrow and that I feel better. The only thing I can face eating at the mo is ds's easter eggs... <mean mummy>

2beornot Mon 01-Apr-13 20:19:19

Hi Loanna! The more merrier! Another who took about a week to conceive dd so this being my 4th cycle is driving me mad.

I should ov on or about Wednesday so we are dtd as much was we can at the moment - I am desperate for a 2013 baby!!!

Did you get pg test mortified?

Hi Loanna - welcome!! My situation is similar to yours - my DS is 4 this month and we conceived him really quickly - we have been trying for #2 since last May and its driving me mad!! Good luck Hun!! X

MortifiedAdams Mon 01-Apr-13 21:01:24

Never managed to get one, was invited out to lunch which stretched out all day so no chance to nip to the shops, but there is a Boots within walking distance (closed for BH today) that Im.planning on popping to tomorrow.

Fingers crossed for all!

MortifiedAdams Tue 02-Apr-13 14:55:26

Have bought a two pack and saved my FMU. howevrr dh wants to e here so have to wait til he gets hone to test booooo.

Good luck mortified - keep us posted xx

MortifiedAdams Tue 02-Apr-13 17:19:21

BFN.

Mortified there's still a chance if AF hasn't arrived? Keeping my fingers crossed for you smile

Sorry about the BFN mortified - its not over until the dreaded AF arrives - fingers crossed hun xx

MortifiedAdams Tue 02-Apr-13 23:29:18

AF arrived. Was in a pub so able to order a glass of wine guilt free grin

We havent done much shagging this month so ive told DH we are dtd everyother nightwhen AF jas gone and he is a happy man!

Next AF due 1st May so can put POAS out of my mind til at least then.

Good luck anyone else still waiting for AF.

mangomom Wed 03-Apr-13 01:06:10

Ok, I'm joining this thread too if nobody minds. I joined Mumsnet when I was PG with DD (who is 15 months now) and now we are TTC #2. I have never actually posted anything here until now, but this seems a nice friendly crowd. I'm now beginning the long TWW. Technically probably should have BD tonight but DH was asleep by the time I got to bed (hence my reading various forums on my phone). BD yesterday and day before (lots of EWCM then) and will aim for tomorrow too. AF due 17th.

We have been NTNP for a couple of months, but this is our first proper TTC cycle. With DD we got PG in our 4th TTC cycle, but I guess I'm not getting any younger so not necessarily expecting such a good result. It's hard to be relaxed about it. I hate this TWW!

This is an awful lot of abbreviations I never knew I knew until just now.

AbiBub Wed 03-Apr-13 01:06:44

Hello! Can I join? Going a bit nutty here! Have just sat and read your 13 page thread now thinking of that I need to become mire nutty! Opk never done before but looking sooooo tempting atm! Came off pill beg. Jan so am currently on cycle3 think I ov on weekend just gone, but now not sure? Have had brown slightly more than spotting but mainly when I wipe? (Sorry if tmi) have posted another thread on here but this thread seems lovely. Have a ds that is going to be 4 on sunday and am desperately hoping for 2013 baby but now so unsure with this extra bleed/spotting/type wtf it is?! Cycles normally 28days but last one was 27days and they have been HEAVY. Has anyone ever experienced ov bleed/spotting? I've not, but I don't know what this is?! Af supposidly due 13th april and am already going nutty!!!!! How is everyone doing? :D

mangomom Wed 03-Apr-13 01:08:43

Hello another person reading in the dark on your phone grin

mangomom Wed 03-Apr-13 01:11:21

Also I had that spotting you are talking about with DD. I either read somewhere or my GP said it was an implantation bleed (where your little fertilized egg buries itself happily into your uterus). So fingers crossed for that and POAS ASAP.

AbiBub Wed 03-Apr-13 01:23:50

Hello other person reading in the dark! Have your eyes gone as potty as mine yet?! :0/ it sounds like imp bleed but I only had my last af on 17th mar so ov (or so I thought) on weekend just gone, the bleed started light on friday, little bit of red, but then went straight to brown, but monday was the day it happened more often and the same again today, we did dtd on the wed (27th) but surely the imp bleed wouldnt happen that quickly?! I think I have confused myself all the more by looking on mr google too! If im not thismonth then opk may be on the ccards! Hoping your 2ww flies by and gives positive results :0)

AbiBub Wed 03-Apr-13 01:26:43

Just a bit of light reading, my username explanation, Abi=my name Bub= my nickname given by my mum and now I use bubs for my ds nickname :0)

mangomom Wed 03-Apr-13 01:29:17

Oh right, yes, that does sound early. Hmm, well I guess time will tell! Good luck to you too. Yes, my eyes are all scratchy so I think I'll go to sleep now. Sweet dreams when you go.

AbiBub Wed 03-Apr-13 01:36:39

Right back at ya! Beddlington calling! :D

Loanna Wed 03-Apr-13 09:23:08

Hi Abi, I think I'm currently in a similar situation to yourself. I came off the pill on 14th March AF arrived 18th March I think I ov around weekend just gone however I had a very small amount of spotting yesterday. It was only a tiny bit and it has now gone. I read yesterday that it could be an ovulation sign. I have put it down to this being my first cycle without my pill so my body is hopefully re-adjusting. This could be what it is or maybe an implantation bleed if you ov early.

Mortified-Sorry about your AF Mine isn't due until 15th April but have a feeling we missed it this month as we also haven't dtd much. I think I may also try the every other day method next month too, thankfully my DH is more than happy to oblige and doesn't feel like he is being used at the moment.

AbiBub Wed 03-Apr-13 10:26:18

Hey Loanna! Yeah I came off pill jan, so this is my third cycle! I am still getting some brown when I wipe (sorry if tmi). So I will guess I have to wait, so tempted to get opk! Had really heavy feeling in abdomen area when I first woke, and tremendous back ache. bb's not sensitive, but I dont think I got that with my ds, ooooh so confusing !!

Morning ladies :0) mortified sorry to hear about af, but a good starting point for next round of trying ; 0)

Hows everyone doing? :0)

gemmeg Wed 03-Apr-13 11:50:08

Hi abi and mangomom! Quite a crowd of nutters forming here now!! So I thought I'd share my news with the only people who really understand how important it is......AF still not arrived yet (def not pg as didn't DTD) meaning my LP is at least 10 days!!! I know this doesn't sound v.exciting but it gives me a bit more hope that we can conceive this month. Just looking forward to cracking on with TTC this month as soon as AF out the way (just you watch, it won't arrive for ages now that I really want it to!grin).

2beornot Wed 03-Apr-13 12:22:48

Yey!!' More nut jobs!! Welcome ladies!

Gemmeg - not managed to work out what a luteal phase is yet, but if you're happy, I'm happy!!

Mortified - sorry about AF arriving - at least it didn't keep you hanging too much!

So, advice needed. DH and I have dtd Fri, and sun- tues. last night he seemed tired, so thought we'd have a night off tonight but I think I ov today. So do it again tonight, or even if I've ov today then last night and tomorrow so be ok?!

gemmeg Wed 03-Apr-13 13:13:23

2be it sounds as though there'd be plenty of swimmers up there waiting for ov so if DH seems tired then u could just DTD perhaps once more 2mro in case of late ov smile

Luteal phase is the time starting the day after ov up until day before AF which needs to be a minimum of 10 days to conceive. I thought mine was 11 then I realised I'd been counting wrong and found it'd been 9 a few times but this month it's at least 10 days. Anything less is considered a luteal phase defect and can make conception difficult....here endeth the biology lesson smile.

2beornot Wed 03-Apr-13 14:17:27

Ahh ok - I always thought ov was the middle point of cycle? So when AF arrived 4 days early I might still have ov when I thought?! That makes sense! Have checked calendar and my lp has been 14 days for past two months.

AbiBub Wed 03-Apr-13 14:17:35

Hey gemmeg and 2be! Yep complete nut nut here! And so nice to be with likeminded peeps too! I was explaining in the phone to my mum this morning and bless her, she said try not to think about it too much, what will be will be! is she kidding!! ha ha!

2be-im with gemmeg on that one.I think if ov time, swimmers will last a good few days anyhow, dont wanna cause a traffic jam! Wait for rush hour to clear a bit first then set another journey off! All pinkies crossed here!

Gemmeg that is really handy to know about LP I will have to work mine out, but never used opk so it just would go by feeling for the past ones to gague it! So tempted to get opk's how long and where from if can get from amazon, dont wanna get it too early just in case my af doesnt arrive on 13th (ish) for all good reasons of course!! The brown spotting has calmed down (for the moment) so may have got ovulation dates mixed up?!? Got really achey back today, but I do tend to sleep weird anyhow abi secretly hopes she didn't sleep weirdly :0)

AbiBub Wed 03-Apr-13 14:21:55

Ha ha I underlined instead of italics duh me! Half asleep mummy here! I was explaining to my nearly 4yr old ds that mummy was reading about releasing eggs and timing etc he said "oooh yeah mummy we could have egg and shoulders" bless him he has not a clue!! :0)

2beornot Wed 03-Apr-13 20:09:11

Love the analogy Abibub - really made me laugh grin Think we'll have a night off then!

Fingers crossed! I am going to go for OPKs if it doesn't happen this month. I don't think you need to use them until a few days before you expect to ov, so you should be ok to wait for AF

HI Mango and abi - nice to have some more nutters round here!

Well it looks like I definately got a LH surge Mon & Tues but didn't manage to dtd until this morning sad It was a combo of being away with a poorly ds and then us being poorly so just wasn't happening this month.
I tried to gently nudge dh into action but didn't want to tell him that I was OV and wanted his sperm, esp as we have only dtd twice now this month. If we'd dtd a lot anyway, I would have no problem telling dh I just want his sperm grin

On the plus side, I have a hen weekend when AF is due so I guess I can go and drink with abandon (although off to stalk google now about LH surges and ov times and will obsessively poas until AF arrives)

Hi ladies - hello to the new ladies - we have got ourselves a lovely group of nutters now!!

I am just coming to the end of AF so back to DTD - trying to be slightly more casual about it this cycle as I was SLIGHTLY obsessed last cycle!! I am doing my OPK everyday to try and get an idea of my cycle.

Gemmeg - fab news on your LP - have you been asking anything to help lengthen it? Mine was just short of 10 days and I'm keen to lengthen it - obsessing a bit about whether its the reason I miscarried x

AbiBub Wed 03-Apr-13 23:24:07

Hey all! Just a quick signing off reply, have been working this evening at home, and have been itching to come on here to say hi, but had to be strict with myself! Glad you liked the analogue 2be I like to make people laugh :0) im thinking of opk if it doesnt happen this month just purely as my bod likes to be different and it would be nice to know for sure! Can anyone recommend suppliers in amazon?

Hey petty, yep I is a nutter especially good at the overthinking and also arguing with myself about what symptoms im having ! Well if af arrives you make sure you have a fabby hen do thingy, may as well make the most of it whilst you still can :0)

Hi mummy, casual dtd good, add a bit of hell for leather (nope I dont mean kinky, but going for it like the clappers) and you should be balancing the dtd quite nicely! (Ha ha cant believe I just wrote that!!) Sorry ladies sleepy deprivation does strange things to me! Hopefully we will all get agood idea of our cycles one way or another! In the mean time im going to scrutinize my diary for clues yeah abz like that isn't obsessing, ha well until I get af and opk's in any case!

Yep I should probably shhhush now, may have sent you all to sleep, which is what im going to do right now! Nighty night peeps :0)

mangomom Wed 03-Apr-13 23:29:53

You know, opks never seemed to work for me when we were TTC the first time. We got pg relatively quickly but I never got a positive on any opk strip (and I used them religiously). I'll admit I haven't done much research/reading around them but may use them this time if the need arises. Any tips on how to get best results gratefully received.

Abi I hope you got your work done as needed!

Sleepy time, night all.

Ninunina Thu 04-Apr-13 07:01:33

Hello to all the new nutters! You're certainly in the right place... there is so much we say on here that we probably never dream of telling anyone in RL!
modified I'm sorry AF arrived. I must say I'm quite impressed that you managed to not POAS obsessively when AF was late.
I'm getting very broody now. My 16 month old was playing with my friends 6 month old and she was so sweet and gentle with him. She will be such a sweet big sister. I can't wait for July so we can start TTC.
My homework til then is to figure out my cycle. This month is confusing me since I seem to have ovulation pain in both ovaries. Would that mean I could be releasing 2 eggs shock
I've always wanted twins... if DH wasn't away on a business trip I'd be tempted to give it a shot. Bring on July!

gemmeg Thu 04-Apr-13 07:15:38

mummy unless I've misunderstood all of my "research" a short LP won't cause you to mc but it means you won't get pg in the 1st place as there isn't enough time for implantation after you ov. I ordered some supplements from H&B to lengthen LP but had probs with the shipping address form (I need them delivered to Austria) so I ordered so more from a diff supplier and now they've all bloody arrived! I could open a chemist!! Now I don't even know if need them! I reduced BF a lot this month so think that's taken affect. AF still not here so another bonkers cycle....will def need the OPKs this month.

petty sounds like you're having a similar month to the one we had last month.....sometimes you just have to call it quits and crack on with it the next cycle. At least you're spared the 2ww for a month and can function like a normal human for a bit grin.

mangomom perhaps you have a short LH surge? That said, the 1st month I used them I also thought they hadn't worked and put this down to them being cheapy ones. Actually the prob was that I hadn't continued doing them for long enough. I was convinced I'd ovd as I had cramps etc but it turns out I get these up to 5days before ov and I ov late. I used CB and cheapy ones the 2nd month and both worked.

AbiBub Thu 04-Apr-13 10:42:53

Morning ladies :0) how are we all this morning?

Mangomom, I did get the work needed done thank you, plenty more for me to do today :0) including getting stuff together for our ds birthday cake, think I might hobby craft it :0)

Nin I often wondered that as I have previously had pain on both sides before, curious, may have to Google it!

Gemmeg so when you setting up your chemist shop ; 0) hee hee! That's sods law isnt it!!

Last night I had a really curious dream that that browny stuff was a quick clear out before my plug appeared and that I actually was pg! Ha ha I have the oddest dreams for sure!

Hows everyone feeling this morning? My browny spotting had subsided and gone last night, just had a couple of pale pink spots, so yayh tis gone! Well until my af arrives. Tummy feels like sonething is dragging or pulling but im thinking it might just be my bod settling down from being on the pill?!:0/ I should stop writing and best get on with some work! :0)

Thanks for the research Gemmeg - that's reassuring to know as I would hate to think that there was anything I could have done to prevent the miscarriage and I didn't. I guess I was looking for a reason for the miscarriage but I guess these things just happen hmm

I have had the day off today and been de-cluttering the house - it's so therapeutic - I trying to give myself mini projects to take my mind off TTC (and failing miserably!).

Has anyone got any nice plans for the weekend? We are shopping for DS birthday presents - I think me and DH are more excited about his birthday than he is!! X

ASmidgeofMidge Thu 04-Apr-13 22:43:28

Good to see more peeps! AF ended on Mon... According to my phone app fertile days are from today til 9th although that seems a bit soon iykwim? No other signs of ov and opk's not showing anything up. DH working a lot of shifts so hoping not to miss the dtd boat. Not sure which ov measure to pay the most attention to...

Sorry about AF arriving mortified

AbiBub Thu 04-Apr-13 23:45:38

Hey all. Hows everyone? This evening got some cake making stuff for ds birthday on sunday! So this weekend is all about birthdays or prepping for it!!

Mummy, mc are something that no one should have to through, but the only comfort I can give is that you are not alone. When I first met my partner about a month or so in I fell pg (whilst on pill) and didn't know until just borderline mc at 5wks. Both my mum and nan have been over fertile, so I am very much the same (although you wouldnt think it at the mo!) Since then I have had 4 chemical pg. It is never easy, but I take with me that I have a ds that although he drives me up the wall I bless the ground he walks on. (Hark at me all soppy!) But its very true. I hope that gives you some comfort that whilst its not the nicest thing to go through, there is often underlining reasons why it does happen. :0)

Hey asmidge, that's great, so I am hoping that your only busy doing one thing!! I read online somewhere that ov can occur between 7 and 23 days from the first day of your last period, does that coincide with your phone app? I worked out that me and OH dtd on the 12th day after 1st day of af, so I might even have my ov dates mixed up because I thought i was ov around 29th/30th! Which may mean that the spotting I have had could be imp bleeding!? Who knows im prob just over hopeful I think! I always assumed ov was slap bang in the middle of a cycle but apparently not!!! All fun and games huh! I bought a load of towels (af) just in case, but hoping i dont have to use them! So whats everyones plans for this weekend?

AbiBub Thu 04-Apr-13 23:49:38

I meant to also say mummy that the underlining reason are not something we can do anything about it just happens. x

instead of getting impatient to poas i am actually willing af to turn up so i can crack on with the next cycle grin
a bit gutted that i won't be having a Christmas pudding but my only reason for wanting a baby in Dec was so that we would have to start hosting the family Christmas shock that was all agreed last weekend anyway so i can have a baby anytime now wink
i actually think dc2 will be another March baby as EVERYONE in my family is born in March (except me but only because i was prem, i was due in March). its an exciting but expensive month (and July is obv a busy time for couples in my family wink )

gemmeg Fri 05-Apr-13 10:58:15

I was doing exactly the same thing petty. The past few months I've been running off to the loo around AF time to check it had NOT started but this month I was willing it to hurry the chuff up! I had had several months of a 26 day cycle so I was happy that they were at least reg but last month was 29 and this time 31 days! I suppose that's what you get if you BF. Thankfully AF arrived y.day so at the moment I feel as though someone's kicked me in the nether regions grin but looking forward to getting on with it! Just a shame I ov late so still a while to wait....

No amazing plans for the weekend....The weather's still pretty crappy and cold here in Austria so not really motivated to leave the flat. Prob just visiting some other Brit friends who live in Vienna, a spot of baking and playing with my 17month DS who's a right cheeky monkey smile

winterpansy Fri 05-Apr-13 11:29:24

Hello nutjobs!

Hope you're all well. Lots of newbies I see. Hurrah and welcome to the club.

I'm in full flow obsession mode. CD16 here so am using clearblue opks to see when ov will happen at some point over the next few days (was CD18 last month) and have dtd CD10, 12, 13 and 14 so far.
I really want a wee Christmas baby so fingers crossed we get some sperm meeting egg action this month. I was down yesterday at my friends house snuggling her 6 day old. It's amazing how quickly you forget how small they are. DS is nearly two and really tall! Oh, I can't wait for my own newborn snuggles again (if all goes to plan of course)!

AbiBub Sat 06-Apr-13 01:08:47

Hey peeps! Its lovely to see a good network of ladies just being open about how they are feeling! If af's are present it can only be a healthy thing to know bods are all still working as they should be :0) it seems to just be mainly down to timing for us ladies I think! I know im comfused, I've set up an excel spreadsheet ( yep I was that intrigued!) With start and end dates to see how long my cycles have been, where I thought they were all pretty much 28days they aren't! Some are 28 days some slightly less some are 33 days some are 31 days! Buts whats more confusing is that ov can occur between 7-23 days after your first day of your period! So not necessarily slap bang in centre of your cycle? ! Today I've had major tummy cramps and nausea like you wouldnt believe, but im really nervous its going to be another chemical pg. And according to my dates I have another week to wait till af arrives :0/ would live a christmas baby, love the newborn baby cuggles too! Still cant believe our ds will be 4 on sunday!! hey ho best get some kip! :0)

Hi ladies, hope you are all having lovely weekends.

Abi - I hope your DS has a great birthday tomorrow - my DS is 4 next Sunday and he is getting so excited! I always get super emotional around DS birthday (he still feels like my baby) - I can't believe how quickly the past 4 years has gone!!

AF has now finished (finished on Friday) and we have started DTD - trying every other day until ovulation but that's not for another couple of weeks thanks to long cycles!!

I went into Holland and Barrett to ask about vitamin B for LP but they looked at me like I had 2 heads!! Do you think it's worth talking to GP?

Xx

AbiBub Sun 07-Apr-13 02:41:36

Mummy-thank you! Super excited about tomorrow (well later on today!!) My OH and I have just finished off his birthday cake and we are uber proud of it! Sealife centre for a day trip :0) tonnes of ballons are secretly waiting for the bubs in the morning!

Could be worthwhile speaking to gp, if your not in huge rush perhaps if not succesful this time round you could visit gp then? Perhaps if you're trying every other day up until and past ov this could be your month :0) x

How are you all ladies? :0)

2beornot Sun 07-Apr-13 08:16:46

Morning nut jobs!!!

Been a busy couple of days (wedding on Fri, working on say) so been a bit absent. I'm in the 2ww stage now. So in the cycle of a nutjob that means getting hopes up, working out when my baby would be due (27th Dec apparently), working out how soon I should test (AF due 18th but I have a early response left in the cupboard), working out when I can announce the news (12w would be mid June but I'd be 10w on my birthday!), imagining what my dd will be like when baby is born etc etc. Please tell me I'm not the only one?!

2beornot Sun 07-Apr-13 08:20:42

Oh and I meant to say Happy Shagging to all those just entering that cycle (I think there is mummy, winter and soon petty and gemmeg) Enjoy and make the most of it!! It's my fave time of the cycle!

Abibub Hope you have a brilliant day!!

mangomom Sun 07-Apr-13 19:18:53

Ha ha, 2beornot, you are not the only one. My baby would be due Boxing Day grin

winterpansy Mon 08-Apr-13 11:47:05

Thank you 2be! We've made a fair go of it over the past week or so. 7 or so times dtd! Still haven't had a smiley face on my opk yet though, even though I'm on cd19, and DH is on nights this week so I'm hoping there are enough sperm there already to hit when ov happens. Unless it happened on Saturday as I was away for the day and forgot to my bring my test. Tested when I came back at 9pm though and no smiley face. Arrhhggg! It's so hard not to be all-consumed by the whole thing.

I've been nutjobbingly looking at due date calculators etc. already also so you're deffo not the only one!

AbiBub How were the birthday celebrations?

MummytotheArk How are you?

gemmeg and petty Has AF left yet? Can you kick off soon with dtd?

Hello to everyone else - how are things?

gemmeg Mon 08-Apr-13 12:42:34

Oh me, oh my winterpansy you have been busy! Hopefully you'll have hit the jackpot this month. Do you know when you usually ov? I only ask as I didn't get a smiley face til late into my cycle last month and I thought it happened 4 or 5 days earlier. AF still here for me. I ovd on day 19 last month which'd be 23rd April this month so I'm planning to DTD every other day starting a wk before that date until I get a smiley.....I just can't say anything to DH about it though as he rolls his eyes anytime I want to talk tactics. It really p****s me off!!

im not due af for another week or so, which means another 3 weeks before i become a woman possessed grin

mangomom Mon 08-Apr-13 22:04:07

Argh, desperate to POAS and it's only day 19! confused

Hey ladies - hope you are all having lovely Mondays!!

I am feeling a bit low today - not sure why just feeling a bit blue about things hmm still trying to get over the miscarriage (even though it was 7 weeks ago) - I thought it would all be behind me now.

Anyhoo - I'm cd12 (I think - must double check!!) and starting with the opks daily and DTD every other day (where we can) - if every other day then is every 2nd day okay??? I am monitoring everything at the moment as if it doesn't work this cycle I am back to the doctors for a chat - just need to find a doctor that will listen!!

Xx

mangomom Mon 08-Apr-13 22:13:31

(Though I think this is 7dpo soooooo)

mangomom Mon 08-Apr-13 22:15:24

MummyTTAB I am sorry you are feeling down. I hope you get good news on your opk soon--maybe that would be a first step to feeling better?

MortifiedAdams Tue 09-Apr-13 08:29:39

Ooh lots of you potentially POAS soon! Ive just started second cycle and dtd every other day for the whole month. Just realised we have some friends coming to stay for the week I ovulate - perfect timing confused

AbiBub Tue 09-Apr-13 10:09:04

Morning ladies, how are you all?

winter looks like you have given it a fair shot at it, all pinkies crossed for you :0) the birthday celebrations were fabby but also very tiring! The cake turned out better than me and OH expected it was a joint effort too so even more special :0)

gemmeg hows the af now? My OH rolls his eyes too but then he remembers he's actually getting some regardless of the reasons why!! He makes the most of it now I think cos when im pg I might nit have the energy!! I do random dtd so he doesnt feel completely used!

petty so about a week to go then, do you think af might turn up? Hopefully it doesn't for good reasons of course!

mummy I reckon every other 2nd day is ok, swimmers last a good 72hours without any cm alone. Sorry to hear you are feeling low about mc :0 ( I found that time was the best healer ultimately. Big hugz.

mortified could you still sneak in a few a few quickies in the week your friends stay? Thats a good plan on dtd every other day for the month, sounds like you would have everything covered, just you might be uber knackered though :0/

mango all pinkies crossed here for you, bet your itching to POAS as much as me! Based on my original ov dates (which may be wrong!) I would be 10 dpo but if I use the earlier date of ov (which coincide with pains and spotting) I would be 14dpo! I had awful nausea on weekend and it comes and go in waves, I have slightly tender bb's and they actually tingled on sunday night ?!? But I am trying not to read into it too much if I can help it, as I suffer chem. Pg had 4 that I deffo know of, getting odd pains here and there so will prob have af. Its due around sat. The fri just gone my OH and I dtd and it felt really different, like something was blocking access part way down like I was swollen down below (sorry if tmi) has anyone ever had that?

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