Ttc after recent mc, for Creme egg scoffers, shared confusion and joint cursing of mother nature

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I couldn't bring myself to call her a bitch, we still need her help! Come on ladies, let's do this thing....

grotbagz Wed 06-Feb-13 21:40:31

After a failed attempt I linked it - I am new, lots to learn!

IBelieveInPink Wed 06-Feb-13 21:40:47

Thanks for new Fred thunder.
Me and mr blue (yes, we do conform to stereotypes) have decided February is going to be a happy month, with lots of enjoying life, and no more being sad. Yay. Now if I could just find my damned af......

shellshock7 Wed 06-Feb-13 21:50:04

New thread! Thanks thunder smile

I'm not from SW, don't like cider and favour WW over SW when dieting....can I still come play?!

So, still symptom spotting like mad...even this thread title made me tear up (why is Mother Nature so cruel) and its been the same all day hmm. It's rubbish cos all early pregnancy signs could just be signs of AF!

diyqueen Wed 06-Feb-13 21:53:26

Yes thunder you're right, we do want to keep in her good books - love the title! Ranting over from me for the moment, going to try to follow your positive example pink. Should probably start by going to wash up instead of sitting on the sofa eating chocolate (smarties this time) and mumsnetting. Night night.

chocolateteabag Wed 06-Feb-13 22:06:17

Thanks Thunder - will try to be nicer to her, just wish she was a bit nicer to us!

Hi Amelie - sorry you are here but plenty of Creme eggs and shouty ness to go around.

JanieLovesHerThreeLeggedCat Wed 06-Feb-13 22:20:49

thanks for he new thread thunder (although I'm still hiding in the corner in embarrassment at my SW/SW silliness)

Hi Amelie sorry to see you here, unfortunately there's no set time for AF to come back - some 2/3 weeks, mine didn't appear for 10 weeks. fx yours comes soon

ibip yay for positive thinking! it's my birthday month so i'm planning muchos fun.

bump we're defo going to try to dtd more...and more for fun than for a mission to get pg... but always so bloody knackered at the end of the day. maybe i should read 50 shades again... ;)

grotbagz Wed 06-Feb-13 22:24:42

And i also love the name, thanks thunder!

shellshock that's probably a good thing, I was starting to think the south west may have somehow been in cahoots with Mother Nature!

bzzbee Wed 06-Feb-13 22:40:09

Nice to see the new thread, had my first creme egg of the year earlier ;-)
Had another crazed day of chocolate craving, the egg was the last in a long line of junk, yikes.

I think I am now also having a wtf cycle. Having had ov pains this week (on BOTH sides, one after the other, weird) I had some (TMI alert!) bright red pink spotting today. I hope it's nothing to worry about, they say it's a concern if bleeding doesn't stop within 2 weeks of mc and the two week mark was last Friday for me. I'll see how it goes. I feel totally pre menstrual (choc excuse) and generally rubbish and hormonal, sigh...
Did anyone else have anything like this?

x

grotbagz Wed 06-Feb-13 22:50:58

Bzzbee - I had those sort of feelings when I had the one in October - I also bled for a long time (don't want to scare you sorry, I'm sure yours will be ok - they said it was unusual) but they said it wasn't anything to worry about health wise - I was continuously bleeding at intermittent levels though for that time - did you stop bleeding for a bit or has it been continuous?

grotbagz Wed 06-Feb-13 22:54:23

Also could it be your periods just being a bit mad - I had what was apparently mine as the last week of the continuous bleeding - but came on again a week or so later so maybe it's just your body working itself out?

Lucky13ForBaby Thu 07-Feb-13 07:05:31

Thanks for the new thread. Depressing i must have been on about 4 now sad at least this one invves chocolate! Mother Nature has sure been cruel to us all. Can add me to the rubbish January cycle. Started spotting last night. Think I maybe tempted with a morning creme egg today ! Bzz- I also bleed for over 2 weeks and had very long strange cycles post both mc. Always good to seek medical advice for peace of mind though. L
Lets hope February is kinder to us all, bring on the valentines baby's!

Bakingtins Thu 07-Feb-13 08:00:16

Hi everyone. Seems I may have written off January too early - tested again this morning and got a BFP shock. Was thrilled, told DH and burst into tears. Still not sure if they are happy or terrified ones confused.
This is my last chance - we're both agreed if I MC again we are not trying any more. I feel like the die is cast, we're stuck with that egg and that sperm and hoping they were good'uns. Whatever will be, will be and there is not a damm thing I can do about it. Let's hope fate is kinder to us this time around.
Hope this is a positive omen for the rest of this thread and that everyone gets their BFP in the next 1000 messages. smile

SQUEEEEEEE!

tins! Welling up here. Congrats! Can't stop to write more but had to send a squeal! x x

SpanishLady Thu 07-Feb-13 08:32:04

Bakingtins -many congrats - this is wonderful, lovely news! Sending you all best wishes and anything at all that might help - am convinced positive vibes help!

Can I ask a question from ladies who have MC'd before? whats the story about baby asprin? I have had one MC and there was nothing when I was scanned so even if they had wanted to (and they dont) think they would struggle to have something to test.

I do not have any known blood problems but nor do I want to have to go through another MC if this asprin was the answer....is it more for recurrent MCs? am a bit confused!

SpanishLady Thu 07-Feb-13 08:37:06

Also my bleeding appears to have stopped - but I only bled for 6 days - does that seem right or I guess it could start up again as seen from other accounts that it can be on/off.

what are your views on trying again before afp - eg if I can catch when I next ovulate shoudl I try or am I doing damage? My DH wants to wait until I have had a normal period to make sure I have recovered which I know makes sense but....

JanieLovesHerThreeLeggedCat Thu 07-Feb-13 09:25:36

oh bakingtins i'm sooooo delighted for you!!! grin grin grin congratulations! you have totally made my day!! fx for a sticky one!!! i have a good feeling about this!!

and that's it - name change ahoy! something to do with baking perhaps?

spanish sorry i don;t know anything about babay aspirin. but that's good that you're bleeding has stopped. be prepared just in case it might start up again a little bit. re. trying again, if you;re ready and the bleeding has stopped then there's no real reason to wait. some people's first AF since MC was crazy heavy - with a bit of leftovers (for want of a better word). i had a d&c and bled for about 2 weeks and my AF was pretty normal when it came. hope you are keeping ok xx

SpanishLady Thu 07-Feb-13 09:36:09

thanks Janie - appreciate your reply!

bzzbee Thu 07-Feb-13 10:16:40

Fantastic news BakingTins - many many congratulations smile

So nice to come on here and read some good news.

What is your ttc history, if you don't mind me asking, as i only joined the thread a couple of weeks ago?

x

bzzbee Thu 07-Feb-13 10:25:17

On an entirely separate note...is it a good/bad idea to apply for a new job so soon after mc?
I was quite fed up with work at the end of last year (very negative atmosphere, poor management support, etc), but then got a BFP and thought it made sense to just stick at it, take mat leave (very generous where I work) etc.

Coming back after mc has been doubly hard because I'm back where i was in November work-wise (i think I'm slightly depressed by it all, at least that's my explanation for the tonnes of chocolate, no exercise, bad mood and general apathy). Right now I feel like I need work to be a positive thing in my life, more than ever. Whereas it's having the opposite effect. But it's tricky to distinguish hormonal from reality, IFYSWIM.
Though having been fed up in Nov kind of reassures me that this isn't just a knee-jerk/hormonal reaction.

Oh Sigh and Sigh again.

x

Zeuxippe Thu 07-Feb-13 10:34:13

Congratulations baking!! So excited for you and wishing you lots of luck xx yippee!!

spanish I remember you from the September 2013 due date thread, really sorry to hear that you have also suffered an mc.
sad I've been reading up quite a lot on when to start trying again. I think each couple has to do what feels right for them but personally we're going to wait until I get my first af afterwards. Reasons being: want to have at least some idea for dates, not sure I'm emotionally ready to try sooner, and some people say they've had a really heavy weird af after mc so would like to get that out of the way and have a fresh start, so to speak.

I think there's also some research that suggests you are more fertile in the 3 months after mc, so don't want to miss out on that. Hope that's of some help.

Oh no- tins had already changed her name to a B one from last time! What about food related? Could be pretty apt....

bzz I applied for a new job within weeks of my mc. I realised when it happened that the idea of being in the job and not going on mat leave within the next few months was not a happy one, which made me reassess what I wanted to do. Luckily a good job came up and now I'm on day 4 of my first week and I'm loving it! Obv depends on what you do and how stressful a change will be.

Hi spanish. I'm afraid I don't know about baby aspirin either but I do know that bleeding on and off, for varying amounts of time, is normal.

pink I love the positive attitude and have decided to follow suit. Sod sad.

On an amusing note I had a smear test today and the nurse said my cervix was being 'remarkably elusive'. I worried for a moment that it had fallen off. Luckily she found it in the end....

CoffeeForSally Thu 07-Feb-13 10:37:14

oh tins congratulations I'm SO pleased for you. Everything crossed for you.

Hooray for new thread and positive vibes (although yes, it's a bit depressing to still be here...) Sorry to see new names.

I'm a bit dubious about my prospects this cycle. I'm going away for work next week and the week after, so have to hope I O around the weekend in the middle so I can jump on DH when I get home.

(creme egg creme egg creme egg... becoming a bit obsessed)

hypnotisingchickens Thu 07-Feb-13 10:40:21

Oh Congratulations tins! Lovely lovely news - maybe it will start a little run of BFP's across this thread. And this could be our lucky thread! runs off to be optimistic..

bzzbee Thu 07-Feb-13 10:52:11

Thanks Thunder, I think I will go for it.
If nothing else it's a distraction, and a positive one at that.

And I will try and be more positive like the rest of you ;-)

BumpKitty Thu 07-Feb-13 10:58:48

can't write much as now looking after a 2 year old and a puppy on my days off work. just wanted to say huge congratulations to bakingtins i'm so pleased for you xxx

grotbagz Thu 07-Feb-13 11:03:42

congrats bakingtins!! i hope it all goes perfectly for you!

spanish we're waiting for the initial bleeding to stop then a period of no bleeding then the next period if that makes sense (I'm not sure on the technicalities yet sorry) - but thats just personal decision!

grotbagz Thu 07-Feb-13 11:05:01

period of no bleeding was the most confusing phrase i could have used - sorry i promise i'm not trying to confuse everyone again!

SpanishLady Thu 07-Feb-13 11:29:17

thats ok Grotbagz - I know what you meant.

I think that is the best way to go - I think Ive stopped bleeding (or for now at least) and have had a go at trying to work out when my period might come (based on my cycle pattern before I got pg and using first day of MC bleed as like a period - so very scientific and bound to bear absolutely no relation to what will actually happen!) - I am therefore expecting a period to appear on 24th Feb - I am going to also wait till after a period before TTC again - wish it is fast!!!

grotbagz Thu 07-Feb-13 11:35:59

spanish it seems so long doesn't it! i had another period only a week after id stopped bleeding last time so hopefully it'll all work in your favourite and not be too much longer!

GardenWorm Thu 07-Feb-13 11:50:06

Baking WOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOO!

IBelieveInPink Thu 07-Feb-13 14:15:57

tins yaaaaaay! Hurrah! Something to cheer for at last! <swiftly whips out pompoms> yay! Good work at starting this Fred off well smile we shall all follow your fine example!
How are you feeling? You okay?
So happy for you!

Bakingtins Thu 07-Feb-13 15:50:16

Thanks everyone!

bzzbee I have 2 boys, had a MC in between them at 10 weeks in 2009, then TTC no 3 for a year, got a BFP and miscarried at 8 weeks in September. This was cycle 5 post-MC. We've decided we can't cope with more than three miscarriages (have been pretty traumatic and ended up with me in hospital both times) so this is our last chance.

Spanish the baby aspirin thing is supposed to thin the blood and prevent clots forming in the placental vessels. It's the treatment for antiphospholipid syndrome which is one of the causes of recurrent miscarriage, and is sometimes recommended for recurrent miscarriages of unknown cause. Normally aspirin is not recommended in pregnancy, so it's something to discuss with a doctor rather than just try yourself.

thunder laughing at your elusive cervix (and thinking that has to be incorporate into the title of the next thread - although we won't need one because you are all going to be pregnant this thread and we will need a bumps thread instead)

yorkiebilb Thu 07-Feb-13 16:50:22

Yes yes, I am very sad checking mn whilst I'm on holiday but I HAD to say a massive congrats to baking on your bbt! I have all my fingers and toes crossed for you! grin

Hoping to see a few more BFP's on here before I return!

yorkiebilb Thu 07-Feb-13 16:54:07

Oops! I meant BFP by the way...I've been obsessively googling bbt temps the past half hour...I'm blaming my crazy behaviour on jetlag honest!

Hope you're all well <scuttles away to hang out with a fake elvis and scoff another donut>

AmelieRose Thu 07-Feb-13 17:03:24

Well if there's creme eggs involved then I'm definitely in the right place. Nearly made myself sick last night finishing a bag of creme egg splats grin. Good at the time though!

Congrats bakingtins and here's hoping it's the start of a flurry of BFPs for all!

So my bfp won't be til end march (note the pma) , that still counts though, yeah? Don't all leave me! But do all get upduffed...

BumpKitty Thu 07-Feb-13 17:26:30

That's ok thunder you'll have a lovely Christmas pudding like my DD smile

grotbagz Thu 07-Feb-13 17:30:18

thunder mine won't be until then either I don't think!

I was just going to ask as well, do any of you do anything different in terms of diet, supplements, exercise, anything really while trying? And if its not tmi - how often do you dtd around ovulation? Is there a sort of what is better to do?

Zeuxippe Thu 07-Feb-13 17:34:17

Hi grotbagz I'm going to do my best to follow the sperm meets egg plan this time re dtd - should come up first hit if you google. Promises 40% success rate after mc!

SpanishLady Thu 07-Feb-13 17:53:40

I have cut out tea and coffee and alcohol completely, not entirely necessary I know but I feel like I need to take back some control if that makes any sense - Im trying to eat healthily and get good amount of rest (my son kind of sleeps through the night but like last night had us up at 2am) Im trying to be proactive (received an order of OPKs and pregnancy tests today in preparation) and positive eg have stopped looking up miscarriage on the net.

the consultant I saw after my MC agreed I should continue taking my folic acid/vits so am doing that.

Bakingtins - thanks for your advice - I did think it wouldnt be something I'd try alone but then never having had an MC before I had never heard of it so when I saw people discussing it I just wondered

will now read up on what Z suggests!

On the positive front I am so grateful for the lovely friends, family and work colleagues (including my manager who had a cry with me!) - its especially touching to receive support from people who have their own troubles - people can be wonderful.

Also, another silver lining (attempt at grim humour coming up) to occur to me is that I now finally have something in common with Beyonce....

<chuckles> at grim humour- spanish can you not do the bum wiggle too? Uh oh uh oh uh oh....

grot, I've switched to decaff except to one coffee a day- which is much for sleep reasons as others and also because when I do get pg it won't be so noticeable! First time we just dtd a few times around possible ov time- never used opks or anything, just looked at an app. Oh the simple days.

bump I'm aiming for a November bundle first! wink

diyqueen Thu 07-Feb-13 18:12:51

Wow bakingtins congratulations and lots of luck and hope the next couple of months go quickly and well for you.

SpanishLady Thu 07-Feb-13 18:45:42

oh my bum wiggles but I think thats the fat to be honest

JBrd Thu 07-Feb-13 19:23:30

Congratulations Bakingtins, that is fab news! Is it just me or are MN pregnancy announcements just so much nicer? I'm getting very depressed in RL when someone announces their happy news, just had two more friends telling that they're pg again - made my heart ache. But here it's no problem, maybe because it's a bit more abstract? Who knows...

Bzzbee I am in the process of getting my act together to find a new job. I didn't like my current one even before the mc, but decided to stick it out (v. generous mat package and all...), but now I have no desire whatsoever to stay any longer than necessary! I am even contemplating handing in my notice before I have found something else, I dislike it so much! Should've know better and listened to the warnings I was given (but was desperate at the time, and it did look good on paper...).

I'm still waiting for af to turn up, hopefully soon (here's something I never thought I'd say!). I had my ERPC 4 weeks ago tomorrow, and am starting to get twitchy... Not that I'm not enjoying dtd completely randomly and really just for fun for a change grin, but I'd rather get on with it, I'm not getting any younger...

chocolateteabag Thu 07-Feb-13 21:57:17

<late to the party as usual> yay tins!!! so so happy for you!

So my AF has tailed off to a mere dribble. I think it might be the volume of Creme eggs and other chocolate I have stuffed in today. May be the Creme eggs are the secret to keeping AF at bay? maybe I should up them to 2 a day maybe we should have Creme egg related name changes?

Notice the lack of obsessing about implantation bleeding in my post above
<goes back to hourly knicker checks, googling and gently rocking>

IBelieveInPink Thu 07-Feb-13 22:37:17

Choc- that's it. It's my 2 a day egg habit that is keeping my af away! I just need to stop the eggs and she will trot right along where she is supposed to be!!

GardenWorm Thu 07-Feb-13 22:56:37

....you don't think the little swimmers are confused and trying to fertilise the creme eggs do you???? Banish the Creme Eggs, they may be evil (or just misunderstood)

bzzbee Thu 07-Feb-13 23:06:55

Baking gosh you've certainly been through the mill with mcs. Here's hoping this is your year smile

JBrd maybe we can support our respective job hunting here then!
I applied for 3 jobs today, and felt quite buzzed this evening, it's the idea that something might come up, a bit like buying a lottery ticket, if you're not in etc. It's also a very good distraction!

I feel like I have been hanging on in my current job way too long, in the vague hope I might get pregnant. Excellent maternity leave/pay etc. I'm a bit more nervous than is probably normal because the last job I had, I found out I was pregnant with DD one week after handing in my notice. (Total accodent, we werent even trying, the irony!) And I'd been there 8 years. Doh!
But now I think staying somewhere I am not happy is probably not good for me anyway, and probably lessens any chance of a BFP.
And, painful as it is to think about, if I never get pregnant/have another child, it would be a shame to have thrown away any chance of contentment at work as well. It's this "limbo" state (at one point a couple of years ago I didn't book certain sporty holidays in the vain hope I'd be pregnant...what a mistake) of ttc which I sometimes thing is the saddest thing. We just all want to get on with our lives.

It's so cool the impact of Bakings happy news on the thread today, it's really lifted the mood, here's hoping for some more good news from all of you!

Xx

shellshock7 Fri 08-Feb-13 08:47:22

Congrats bakins great to get some good news smile Hope you're doing ok

lucky I'm with you, the bitch got me (sorry thunder but she is a bitch) early yesterday, gutted sad

Morning my lovelies!

jbrd I agree about MN announcements being nicer and particularly ones on this thread. I wonder if it's also about seeing the journey that people are on rather than seeing an announcement and thinking that it's just come really easily to them. Good luck with the job hunt- being in the wrong job is not a good situation to be in at all, hope you find something else soon.

pink ^still* no af?? You going to wait til the 22nd ish and be my cycle buddy? Have you poas again?

Really really sorry shell, that sucks. I concede that af is a bitch but mother nature as a whole I'm sticking up for. Today anyway.

JanieLovesHerThreeLeggedCat Fri 08-Feb-13 10:00:48

sorry to hear that shell sad and on a friday too. how inconsiderate. by the time mine should come next month we'll probably be cycle buddies. fx for next month x

and i totally agree that finding out about BFPs on here are way better than in real life. we've all been through similarly tough times and been there for each other and totally know what the whole TTC experience is like. Apart from the circumstances, I'm so glad / lucky to have you all.

God that sounded a bit soppy ha!

JanieLovesHerThreeLeggedCat Fri 08-Feb-13 10:19:25

oh and also it seems my recent batch of cheapo internet opks are duds sad did 3 this morning and even the test line didn't come up.

any recommendations other than the mega ££ clearblue one? saw the CB one in tescos with 7 test strips but it was £17 (reduced from £19) is that a normal price for it?

IBelieveInPink Fri 08-Feb-13 11:07:00

Still no af!!! I am actually tempted to pee on one final stick. In my crazy calculations I worked out that IF the last time we dtd managed to catch, and IF implantation took the longest time it could take, I COULD get a BFP, and it would have been too early to catch last time I poas (5 days ago)
I am so heading for a fall here aren't I.

But, DH is whisking me away for a fancy weekend in a spa hotel. So, I need to poas just to make sure I can drink/go in sauna etc. you KNOW that af will appear tomorrow morning just in time to put me off swimming don't you!!!!!

pink. POAS immediately.

If you want to...

(This is me still not being very good at being stern)

IBelieveInPink Fri 08-Feb-13 12:09:48

Haha! I shall wait til the morning. Tbh, I am sure it will be a negative. Really really sure. I don't feel pg at all. But I don't feel like af is on her way either. Think I am just broken. Boo hiss.

SpanishLady Fri 08-Feb-13 12:51:24

Im keeping my fingers crossed for you Ibelieveinpink

Bakingtins Fri 08-Feb-13 13:06:34

IBIP I didn't (don't) feel pregnant this month either. Trying not to think that is a bad sign, but that all the 'pregnancy' signs I've had previous months have been more to do with PMS.
Go on, POAS....

Are you sure you don't want to poas now pink?

shellshock7 Fri 08-Feb-13 13:25:00

Go on pink do it do it do it ha ha

Right sorry but a mega me me me rant coming, stuck in work so here is the place grin

So so so p*ssed off, not even upset just angry. My AFs are legendarily bad, the pill makes tham manageable but I didn't go back on it after DS as knew we wanted another baby soon (DS was 8.5 months when I had the 2nd MC)...so they are awful and this is the first one since back from maternity leave so gotta work thru it...think night sweats, literally dripping then shivering...pain so bad I can hardly walk and am talking thu gritted teeth...people keep saying ah, its terrible isn't it thinking it's just a tooth ace...YES IT BLOODY WELL IS...and did I mention the vomitting, lovely!

And guess what, I shouldn't even be having an AF as I want to be pregnant...and not newly pregnant but 13 weeks pregnant like I should be. I endured two women in work flashing the 12 weeks scan pictures yesterday (one is gonna be a great grandmonther and is a good friend so I am obviously very happy for her) whilst feeling this ill and this p*ssed off, how do we not just burst into tears or scream I don't know. My one thought that is helping is at least its not as bad a time as the first MMC...what a sh*t thing to be using as a positive gggrrrrr

So this just sucks, sucks really badly, so there have that mother nature angry

IBelieveInPink Fri 08-Feb-13 13:47:39

Ooh you are all terrible encouragers!! I hope you are all here in the morning when I am sulking over yet another bfn. And no af.

shell impressive rant! Well done. Can you go home and get cosy on the sofa? Sounds like you need to. Poor you sad take lots of drugs, and as my friend said the other day- she is very good at advice- be as angry as you want. It helps.

CoffeeForSally Fri 08-Feb-13 14:19:57

pink of couse we will! <taunts with pee stick>

shell poor you, that sounds rotten. Have a good rage and get it all out.

Hm. I feel the need for a name change... hang on...

CoffeeandCremeEggs Fri 08-Feb-13 14:22:08

... ta da!

Ha! coffee! That's funny!

I haven't had a Creme egg yet but I have eaten an entire packet of biscuits since tues- is that a suitable substitute? They're the chocolate caramel ones. Now considering nipping out for a cake for the last but of Friday afternoon....

shell that is just shit and a very justifiable rant. Can you make yourself more comfortable? or is that a stupid question? surely you shouldn't be at work in so much pain and discomfort? You must be knackered on top of it all x

3sthenew2 Fri 08-Feb-13 16:23:11

Hi all, just checking in. Af hopefully gone so can think about ttc this month. My bday's in November so would make a lovely present! Is the 'egg meets sperm' a technique I need to google? Feel I probably need to put some thought into it if I want this to be my bfp month.

Zeuxippe Fri 08-Feb-13 16:35:51

Sperm meets egg. Basically it just says dtd eod from cd8 but use opks for ten days from cd10. When you get a positive opk, dtd for the next 3 nights, miss one night then dtd one last time. I'm going to try it when I get af, if I can summon the energy!

Did anyone else just feel exhausted and achey for ages after mc?

grotbagz Fri 08-Feb-13 17:52:29

janie I use the cheapy ones from Asda like 2 for a quid or they're the same ones as in the £ shop - they show up pretty early too from the ones I did but very faint if early obviously - then just do the clear blue when you get a faint to double check! So much cheaper!

Also thanks everyone answering! May cut coffee out but it's my best friend, of all time.

grotbagz Fri 08-Feb-13 17:53:51

Just seen the coffee names as I scrolled up too haha!

grotbagz Fri 08-Feb-13 17:55:45

janie once again I'm being confusing - thought you meant pregnancy ones? I use the wilkinson ones 5 for a quid or two I think! Sorry again - gone mad clearly!

JanieLovesHerThreeLeggedCat Fri 08-Feb-13 18:07:02

Ha ha grotz sadly just opks for now!!! Xx

grotbagz Fri 08-Feb-13 18:34:33

janie i don't know why I'm allowed on the internet i really don't, but yes i use the wilkinson 5 pack! cheap and cheerful!

chocolateteabag Fri 08-Feb-13 22:50:29

Sorry AF got you too Shell, pretty damn sure that is what will be coming forth soon as I have mega period pains right now. Tried to stop myself hoping it was implantation bleeding, but after trailing to nothing yesterday and this morning, the bitch popped back this afternoon.

Will at least get to use the rest of my sticks in the CB Fertility Monitor, but if I get a BFP next time, will mean baby will be born in same month as DS. Is that a totally ridiculous thing to think of at a time like this or what!

AmelieRose Sat 09-Feb-13 08:50:58

Well I'm thoroughly confused! Thought my period was due this week (Tues) so as I'm technically late did a test and it came back negative. Have been having symptoms too clearly all in my mind - feeling sick and exhausted.

Had a v short bleed last week, just a little bit more than spotting really, was bright red - sorry TMI - and now wondering if that was my period. Any ideas or experiences of this?

And if it was AF, then apparently I might be quite fertile now. <runs off to wake DH up and demand we DTD immediately>

IBelieveInPink Sat 09-Feb-13 08:58:10

Well it is conclusive. Definitely bfn. So my body just needs time to sort itself out I think. Pah.

Still, spa trip now! Yay saunas and alcohol!

AmelieRose Sat 09-Feb-13 09:12:34

Sorry about that pink. Yay to saunas and wine though. I shall also be indulging in wine tonight. Lots of it, I should think!

Bakingtins Sat 09-Feb-13 09:17:15

Sorry IBIP hoped it would be a BFP for you. Make sure you have a fab time in the hot tub with a glass of champers to console yourself. Hope the witch waits till after the weekend.

Amelie I'm afraid a few odd cycles is par for the course. How far post MC are you? It's not over till AF gets you, I've had a odd day of mid cycle bleeding several times and no idea what it means have always hoped it was implantation but been proved wrong give it a few days and test again if still no AF. Do you know when you ov'd this cycle?

AmelieRose Sat 09-Feb-13 09:53:48

No idea when I ov'd unfortunately. I thought it was round about the 20th of Jan but I think I was wrong. If that was a period then I should be ov round about now.

I'll keep in mind what you've said though - if no proper AF then I'll retest next week.

SpanishLady Sat 09-Feb-13 10:23:50

Sorry IBIP but have a great trip.

I tested today and got a BFN - strange to be happy about that! So I haven't bleed for 3 days now and got a BFN and I have to admit I do feel more myself Z well - boobs and belly have both gone back done.

I got promoted at work yesterday and got an ok pay rise and bonus so am going to treat my little boy to the main Octopod thingy from the Octonauts programme which is his current favourite.

Now just need an AF and DH says we can try again.

Fx to everyone else

Bodicea Sat 09-Feb-13 13:20:24

Hi been a while. Marking my place in the new thread.
Wasn't TTC this month as getting blood tests so tried to stay away from Mumsnet for a bit and just forget about TTC.

Bakingtins - congratulations, fab news. So chuffed for you.

I got my first set of blood results back today and the results took me by surprise. I tested borderline for antiphospholipid syndrome. Had a repeat test but midwife says they will probably put me on clexane when I get pregnant anyway whatever the results. Going on baby aspirin straight away. Mixed feelings about this. It was a bit of a shock. I am glad I tested after only two MCs instead of the recommended three. I wish the test had been more conclusive and I don't relish the idea of injecting myself in my stomach everyday but I am glad we have something we can do something proactive to stop this happening again. I also tested high for fibrinogen levels and midwife isn't sure what that means but I know its to do with clotting too so I guess clexane can't hurt for that either. Need to do a bit more research.

Spanish I would say if you are thinking about baby aspirin do it. I thought it about it last time I was pregnant and decided not to as I thought I was being over the top. Bitterly regret it now.

BoyMeetsWorld Sat 09-Feb-13 14:08:50

Hi all,

Just been reading this thread - so lovely to see positive news for some smile

I mc'd at Christmas. Have TTC a few times this month (after normal AF last month) but actually done a bout turn now....I've persuaded myself it's terrible timing for my career etc & we should wait until may to TTC. DH is gutted. Obviously, if fate wills, this months' bunny antics will have done the trick & of course we'd be overjoyed.

I do wonder if a part of me's just too scared to go through it again...reading tales if others who have had multiple mc's I just feel like I'm not strong enough to do that :s

Good luck to all!

BrieMonster Sat 09-Feb-13 15:22:19

bakingtins I am so stoked for you!! Think I can stop stalking my old pals on this thread now. Hope everything goes smoothly as I think you're due a happy healthy not-even-a-hint-of-sickness-or-discomfort pregnancy!

Afternoon everyone! You alright?

shell how are you feeling today?

Hi bodicea, good to see you, but sorry it's a bit of a mixed time. I don't know the conditions that came up in your tests but it must be one positive if you have sonething you can actually do something about. Empowering in a way despite the other negatives?

ibip, sorry about the bfn. I guess you're not really surprised but it's still a bummer. You make sure you take full advantage of the spa and alcohol facilities- what a lovely treat and a lovely hubby.

zeu, yes to exhausted and achey after mc. This bit got me down really as I just wanted to get back to normal. After a couple of week's, I made a docs appointment and before I had it I started taking iron supplements on the epac doc's advice. In my appointment, the GP took blood tests and found out I was borderline anaemic (probably would've been anaemic if I hadn't started the iron beforehand) and also had low thyroid levels. I have to go back for a repeat thyroid blood test next month. So if you feel really drained for a long time, do consider asking advice.

Ps hi brie, I love to hear from the graduates sometimes- reminds me there is hope!

littlemissnorthernbird Sat 09-Feb-13 17:08:56

Hi everyone! Can I jump on board this thread too? You all sound like you are in the same position as me and would love to have people to share my mad thoughts and journey to conceive...and Creme eggs are just the best! Had early miscarriage in November...really messed up my body, just had very big dose of antibiotics to get over it...so hoping spring is going to be good to us! Following a moment of sadness this morning, decided to go out and buy fresh flowers and lots of daffodils in the garden! Time to get back into the swing of things...good luck to everyone on this thread! We'll get there soon....x

Hi littlemiss, sorry that you've had a grim time but you're very welcome here. And thank you for your chirpy message too. I'd started to sink into humph mode this afternoon so it's nice to have a ray of sunshine, and flowers too- good call!

littlemissnorthernbird Sat 09-Feb-13 17:36:49

It's so difficult isn't it! You think you are okay one minute and then the next minute you feel like crying! A friend came into work with her new born on Friday...She's gorgeous! I had baby cuddles but then I had to stop myself from crying! I feel as though I am in No mans land at the moment...want to move forward but can't help but remember the past! I guess that is how it is for us all here! That's why I saw this thread and thought 'here are people who know exactly what I'm going through at the moment'! But we're going to be positive now!

Spring is on its way...thats the season for new life! Bring it on! XXX

grotbagz Sat 09-Feb-13 18:31:41

ibip ahhh! Love a good pampering! Enjoy yourself relaxing!

spanish congrats on the promotion and hope you're treating yourself! Glad you're feeling better!

littlemiss hi, such good vibes, made me smile!

bodicea sorry if you've answered before - I'm new! I've also had two, are the tests to see how you might be able to avoid it happening again? That's good they've given you some idea of preventative measures and can get back to it with some reassurance!

AmelieRose Sat 09-Feb-13 19:07:17

littlemiss you're a tonic on a disappointing day. Here's to spring indeed! smile

BrieMonster Sat 09-Feb-13 19:27:12

Hi thundercats I hadn't even realised it was you who started the thread... Liked the Mother Nature thing! Haven't really been stalking, just popping in every now and again looking for good news. And i liked you guys better than the crowd on my antenatal thread! I hope you are doing ok and crossing my fingers that you follow baking's footsteps real soon.

Bakingtins Sat 09-Feb-13 19:32:58

Hi Brie good to hear from you!

Bakingtins Sat 09-Feb-13 19:35:48

Is there a Laura Ashley graduates thread? Not sure I fancy an antenatal thread where they'll all think I'm completely paranoid.... Will hang around for a bit till it seems more real anyway, waiting for more BFPs and lots of Autumn babies to appear.

littlemissnorthernbird Sat 09-Feb-13 21:41:21

Thanks for the kind words everyone! I have a positive feeling about this thread! You all seem so friendly! I feel better just having joined this thread! Good luck to us all! AF is due next week...but after antibiotics followed by wonderful bout of thrush (sorry if tmi!) I just not too sure this is the month! I do have sore boobs and did have a pregnancy dream the other night (that was the first symptom of my last pregnancy) but I know my emotions are all over the place and will just have to wait and see!

GardenWorm Sat 09-Feb-13 22:46:29

IBIP that's rubbish, hopefully it hasn't spoilt your Spa wkd.
Bodicea briefly looked up anti phospholipid syndrome as I'd never heard of it. Do you feel a bit happier now you may have found a treatable cause? Think someone else asked but is it a standard thing that they test for or did you specifically ask for it because of your line of work? Also do you have it all along or can it just come on? Sorry for all the questions just not heard of it and curious, hope my being nosey doesn't upset you.

brie I can't speak for everyone else but I love having the graduates on here as much as all the rest of us- we're all just at different stages after all. So- don't feel obliged to stay but do know that you are really really welcome. That goes for you too tins!

Maybe we can mane a Laura Ashley/Creme egg antenatal thread shortly when some more of us have our bfps?

littlemiss sounds promising but I have to say that bloody hormones create all sorts of symptoms...only from bitter experience! I reckon best to keep one foot on the ground and the other in the postive happy spring place you're currently in.

As for me, I'm just home from the pub wink. <happier thunder than a few days ago- yes I am that fickle, --I blame it on the hormones-->

Bodicea Sun 10-Feb-13 08:49:03

garden worm and grotbagz. I had the standard blood tests that they offer to everyone with recurrent miscarriage. They are normally offered after three but our hospital is pretty easygoing and usually does them after two if people request them. I don't want to scare everyone and and make them think they need these tests but if you have had a couple of mc s then it is worth asking. I was tested for that As well as having a thrombophelia screen hence the high fibrinogen.. Also worth asking about taking baby aspirin after one I think. I don't know that much about it yet but I am sure will be an expert soon enough. I put a thread on the pregnancy section to get a few answers from people that have dealt/ dealing with it while pregnant. A few people have replied already - makes for interesting read - sounds hard to diagnose - hence all the repeats and possibly kickstarted by pregnancy. I guess I am glad I have something I can do although not sure if was the cause of my mcs but glad I found out now rather than miscarying carrying late in my next pregnancy!

andadietcoke Sun 10-Feb-13 11:13:31

Helloooo! I found you all! And found a BFP too. Yay Tins!!! How are you doing? We definitely need a grads thread in AN - I have to keep reigning in my crazy on my AN thread.

JBrd Sun 10-Feb-13 14:05:01

Bodicea Gosh, I bet that came unexpected! I'll be reading with interest, as I'm thinking of requesting blood tests in the near future. Although I've 'only' had the one mc so far, I have a history of blood clots - I spent 2 weeks in hospital last year after developing a clot in my lungs. And although they were pretty certain that it was the pill that caused it, I'm wondering if I should ask for blood tests to check for issues connected with that (like the antiphospholipid syndrome or fibrinogen).

I wouldn't worry too much about the clexane injections, you get used to them very quickly! I had to take clexane for a few months last year after my pulmonary embolism, and I will also have to go back on it when I get pregnant next time. It's really a very minor nuisance in the grand scheme of things.

But I do want to ask about the baby aspirin, as I keep coming across it. Is it recommended to start taking after having a mc before you get or once you are pregnant again? And who best to ask about it, the midwife? GP? Consultant? I tried to talk to my surgeon about it after having the ERPC, and she did say that there have been studies and that it could be beneficial, but she was very evasive (and I was too zoned out still from the GA to be able to start a proper discussion). Does anyone know more about it?

Bodicea Sun 10-Feb-13 16:46:46

JBird you are supposed to take aspirin preconception. I am taking it now.
To have had a PE at a young age I am really surprised you haven't had a thrombophelia screen already once you came off the clexane. Do they know where the clot came from. Was it a dvt? Gosh the nhs is dreadful at following up people post dvt and pe. Seriously get a thrombophelia screen. You have to have it when you are not taking anything like clexane or aspirin or the results are affected. I am a bit passionate about this as I am a specialist vascular sonographer and it really upsets me when people come back to me with a second dvt and they never got followed up after the last one. Then they have to go on warfarin for life and they never find out if they actually had a predisposition or not. Rant over

CamomileHoneyVanilla Sun 10-Feb-13 18:24:33

Hey folks,

(there is a bit of potentially upsetting stuff in here about natural miscarrige, don't read if fragile/sensitive about this.)

I'm tired and grouchy. Went in for D&C on Friday but ended up miscarrying naturally at the hospital instead. I'm 'glad', as would rather avoid the surgery and associated risks but still was a pretty horrible experience - I had to put the baby in sanitary towel bag after passing it and wander the ward clutching it while I searched for a nurse to give it to :-( - got ignored at nursing station).

At the second scan they also identified I have a malformation of the uterus called bicornuate uterus. I was 'reassured' that this is not what caused this miscarriage as a bicornuate uterus is associated with higher risk of second trimester miscarriage and pre-term birth, not first trimester miscarriage which, funnily enough was not particularly reassuring. There are very positive stories on here of people going to term, having healthy babies etc, but lots of scary stats/experiences on the internet in general too which naturally I'm paying far more attention to. Feeling a bit exhausted at the notion of how anxious I will now be for the entire duration of any future pregnancies. Still bleeding, in pain, upset at this bad news and generally feeling f^&ked off and sorry for myself. DSiL obsessed with posting pictures and quotes on facebook about the wonders of being a mum and how empty her life would be without her kids which is driving me bonkers. Husband lovely and sweet though.

_______ (psychologically putting a line under that)

Disclaimer: I'm not terribly good at remembering everything/everone I want to respond to on these threads so apologies if I miss important stuff!

I would definitely be up for a Laura Ashley/Cream Egg ante-natal thread rather than joining on of the others {glares irrationally in the direction of the September 2013 thread - with exception of dietcoke and anyone else on there from here!}.

Bodicea (cool name btw) - sorry to hear you've had strange news too. Is it something they can do much about? Your post sounds reasonably positive so am hoping so. As you say, there is something positive in knowing in advance about these things (either to prepare psychologically for possibility of complications or, even better, being able to do something about it if interventions exist).

Hope you enjoyed your weekend IBIP.

Bzzbee and JBrd - I'm thinking of throwing myself in to the job hunting too. I've realised I was also really quite liking the notion of a year off and not getting that is a further blow. We deserve jobs that we like and plus it'll be nice and distracting. I've applied for one I like the look of already (during a positive moment) and hoping I'll have a bit of luck with that. Fingers crossed for you guys too.

Batkins - delighted for you - wonderful news.

chocolateteabag Sun 10-Feb-13 20:06:49

Hi Camo - sorry to hear yyou've had a shite weekend, but at least you are on the "other" side of the MC and can now get on with recovering and looking forward. I haven't heard of a bicornuate uterus, do you know if/how they treat you in second trimester when you have it? Like you need something else to worry about once you've managed to get to 12 weeks!

CD2 today and working through the super tampons again, AF seems as heavy as the first one after mc weirdly, hope this is not a regular thing now hmm

Right, going to try a name change - feel it's time.....

ChocolateCremeEggBag Sun 10-Feb-13 20:13:48

Ta Da!!!!!

And now back to the wine, hope this week brings everyone lots of smiles (opks, BFP's, cards, chocolates whatever)

JBrd Sun 10-Feb-13 21:00:12

Camomile and bzzbee You're both ahead of me with the job hunting! I'm still fretting about what to do next/where to go/how this 'career change' that I am envisaging is actually going to happen. I'm nowhere near to applying for jobs yet, sadly sad - but oh so near to handing in my notice regardless confused, it's that bad.

Camo is right, we do deserve jobs that we like! It's where we spend most of our time, after all. Well, it feels like it for me, even though I work 80%. But of course they still expect me to do the same amount of work as a full-time position. Just printed out about 10 pages meeting preparation notes for a meeting tomorrow morning - which got sent around today! So annoyed angry

Bodicea I never had any follow-up from my PE than a chest x-ray and meeting with respiratory consultant after 6 months. The haematologist saw me once, changed me from being on warfarin (wasn't working) to clexane and then released me from his care.
They think my PE was caused by birth control pill, which I had just started taking again a few months earlier. That with my age (then 40) and weight (almost 3st heavier than I am now), as there were no other factors like family history or previous dvt.
I have been thinking about this in the last few weeks, but it didn't occur to me at the time that all this could have something to do with the mc... And I imagine that it will be difficult to determine. But I will make an appointment with my GP to request the thrombophilia screen and the aspirin. I will do anything to avoid another mc.

And I would like for af to show up!

IBelieveInPink Sun 10-Feb-13 22:29:33

Hi all. Hope you have all had good/bearable weekends (delete as appropriate for mood!)
I had a lovely time away, was too scared to go in spa bit in case af found me and I had a Laura Ashley moment, but made the most of the yummy food and wine!
And as if to welcome me home, af made an appearance this evening. So am officially back on track now, end of wtf cycle after mc number 2, and back to the start again. Scary, but feeling positive for the moment. We shall see how long that continues!!!

SpanishLady Mon 11-Feb-13 12:30:37

sounds like you had a great time Ibelieve - thats is very good!

May I ask how long you waited for this AF? presuming this is the first since what happened that sadly brought you to this thread?

SpanishLady Mon 11-Feb-13 12:32:31

Camomile - it is very unfair and I am sorry but you didnt say that the Drs think this would prevent you from having a baby - right? so I'd grab tightly onto that!

Hope you feel better soon through as its easier to think clearly when you feel well.

CamomileHoneyVanilla Mon 11-Feb-13 12:44:54

Thanks for the support guys.
I'm feeling better today. Pain/bleeding etc have reduced alot since yesterday and I have come in to work and its proving to be nice and distracting. I'm a bit confused about the whole uterus thing so am going to just book an appointment with my GP in a few weeks for clarification and forget about it in the mean time.

I think it didn't help being told during the miscarriage when its harder to think rationally and calmly about things. I'm better now - apologies for being histrionic.

Bodicea Mon 11-Feb-13 12:45:44

CamomileI don't know how sever your bicornuate is but I see plenty of ladies take their pregnancies to term. I don't know about the stats but we never really make a big thing of it. I prefer he term normal variant to malformation as well. Please don't think that this is going to be a major problem for you and you are able to enjoy your next pregnancy xxxx

BumpKitty Mon 11-Feb-13 13:27:01

camomile do not worry about venting with us, you have been through a huge ordeal and we're all here to listen and support each other. I'm so sorry you had such a horrendous time in hospital. It sounds like you're doing the best thing in seeing your GP and getting more clued up, if your GP is crap then ask for a referral to a specialist.
z thanks for the sperm meets egg plan, I was flailing a bit thinking I wasn't getting anywhere with my methods so it's good to try something else. CD 9 here so first dtd last night and starting on the opks tomo smile good luck everyone

BumpKitty Mon 11-Feb-13 13:30:02

And sorry to those of you with crap jobs, mine isn't that inspiring but it suits at the moment. jbrd I've left a job with nothing to go to as it was so awful, I'm not sure I'd recommend it though. I did get another job pretty quickly but nowhere near the same pay etc. it is much easier toget a job when you already have one x

grotbagz Mon 11-Feb-13 18:09:33

Thanks bodicea - I'm going to look into it! Glad they're being helpful for you though!

Feeling much better today so I have just got my treadmill out and if I didn't have respiratory problems before I'm sure I will do now after cleaning off the thick layer of dust. I also bought some jillian michaels DVDs in the hope of her inspiring me but she appears to be a lunatic and i want to be toned NOW so I'm not sure how far ill get with that.. Enthusiasm is high clearly! Help?

grotbagz Mon 11-Feb-13 18:10:54

And camo glad you're feeling better!

3sthenew2 Mon 11-Feb-13 19:31:19

I'm giving this baby aspirin thing doe serious consideration now. Just wondering if its called baby aspirin? Thought I'd better check as I thought you couldn't get it anymore due to not being able to give aspirin to babies! I've only had 1 mc but want to do everything I can to prevent another one, if it happens again I don't think we'll try for a third time.
Cam; I hear you on being psyched up for a year off. I'm trying desperately to get back into work, I was feeling very smug at the thought of not having to do my turn on the christmas rota this year and if we're not blessed thus month I guess I'll have no excuse.

diyqueen Mon 11-Feb-13 19:32:01

Hi everyone, just popping in to say hello, been lurking and reading but nothing worthwhile to add, am feeling pretty low at the moment and don't just want to come on and whinge. ibip I'm glad the wait is over... Hope for better luck for you this month.
Hello camo and spanishlady, sorry you find yourselves here too.

JanieLovesHerThreeLeggedCat Mon 11-Feb-13 20:17:06

hey girls, jut been hanging at the sidelines. sorry to hear some of you are having a shitty time... i also hate my job, so if you find a good one, be sure to keep me posted smile ibip glad (in a 'at least you know where you are' way) that AF arrived and didn't ruin your nice weekend smile

have we got anyone getting ready to poas?

i'm off to have a hot cross bun

Zeuxippe Mon 11-Feb-13 20:37:45

Hi everyone. camo I'm so sorry to hear about your ordeal in hospital. It sounds as if asking your doctor about everything they told you is a good route to go down.

thunder thanks for letting me know you had that exhausted/achey feeling too. My doctor actually agreed to let me have blood tests even though this was my first miscarriage so am going to get tested tomorrow morning. I don't think they'll do the full set of tests but should at least cover thyroid/anaemia/diabetes in case any of these are a problem.

Sorry to hear so many people are unhappy in their work. I got made redundant from a role last year that I really liked, then redeployed into a new position that is oh so dull!! I had thought it wouldn't matter cos I'd be getting pg straight away but that doesn't look as likely now sad

IBelieveInPink Mon 11-Feb-13 21:20:45

Just curious to those being allowed tests after 1 or 2 mcs, was there some specific reason you are being allowed them? I went in and begged, but my doc wouldn't do anything even though I have had 2, just told me I had to wait for a 3rd!!

Spanish - it took 5 weeks for af to come back. Both this time, and the last time.

Zeuxippe Mon 11-Feb-13 21:33:11

Hi ibip as I said not getting full tests that look at hormone levels thru cycle etc but just a one-off blood test. I said to GP thought I might have low thyroid levels as was permanently cold and weird shivering alll the time before I mcd.

I cried a lot in the appt too, could have helped persuade them?

Bakingtins Mon 11-Feb-13 21:48:37

Seems to completely vary when you get what tests. Since I ended up on gynae ward for MC2 they did swabs, then they lost them and said I had to go to GP to have them redone. I asked about toxoplasma because of my job (can you believe after 14 yrs working with sick cats I'm not immune) and had TORCH testing for infectious causes of miscarriage and chlamydia swabs. All negative, no answers there. didn't push too much for the clotting etc since I know I can carry to term, assume it's genetic or implantation probs that have caused MC for me.
It does seem to be v dependent on if the GP is sympathetic. I cried too, the hospital had totally panicked me that it was something I'd caught that had caused the MC, didn't appreciate the implication I had an STI....just another example of their crappy communication.

Bakingtins Mon 11-Feb-13 21:50:35

diyqueen if you can't whinge here, where can you whinge? This is not a thread where you have to be sweetness and light all the time.

diyqueen Mon 11-Feb-13 22:17:14

I know, just feeling a bit pathetic as not much to complain about really, at least I have gorgeous dd. Just had a low few days, pregnant best friend has just developed a little baby bump, and I saw a friend who started ttc at the same time as me... and has a 6 week old baby. Dp is suffering from stress and is needing some tlc, dd is going through a needy phase and I feel kind of wrung out and daunted at the prospect of months and months of waiting and failing (we may get a miracle but have fertility issues on dp's side).

diyqueen Mon 11-Feb-13 22:28:38

And am probably hormonal as have what I think is first af, but random stop start bleeding. That probably isn't helping.

Bakingtins Tue 12-Feb-13 07:50:14

I don't think already having children makes the loss easier - you still wanted the baby you lost and want a sibling for your DD. You do have the advantage of knowing it can work out for you when everything is right, but that's not much consolation when you are grieving a loss and wondering if it will all work out in the future. Don't feel you have no right to complain, there is always someone worse off than you, but that doesn't negate what you are feeling.
Hope your hormones sort themselves out soon, easier to think positive once you know where you are. Hope you have a better day today. Unmumsnetty hugs.

Bodicea Tue 12-Feb-13 09:53:40

i believe that's horrible to hear. What a knob your gp is. It's just a few blood tests for goodness sake. How heartless to say you have to wait for a third mc. I went though my epau - not had anything to do with gp - think they are useless anyway. Maybe you could try that. If that doesn't work go back and stamp your feet. Or do what zuipe said and try crying ,

CamomileHoneyVanilla Tue 12-Feb-13 09:57:47

Morning everyone. On day 2 of feeling better (yay). Going back to work definitely the right decision for me. My job isn't bad, actually I really like it, but it is unfortunately not a permanent post (I work bank shifts as a nurse) so lacks job security. The year off I was excited about was more to do with avoiding sorting it all out and getting career back on track. I left my last job before having another one JBrd because it was so awful. It's a difficult one to call really. I'm much happier now but the lack of security and knowing where you're going to be is stressful. I suppose it depends on the field you're in and how often posts similar to yours will come up. Nursing obv has lots of posts so fingers crossed will be ok. Found out i have an interview for that one I applied to the other day which has cheered me up. Fingers crossed.

Bodicea, I prefer normal variant as well. Will be adopting it for now. Thanks for the reassurance that lots of people do fine with one too. Very calming. Are you a doc/nurse/midwife then? (Don't answer if you don't want to).

diy, hope you're feeling better today. I don't have children, but honestly don't believe having one would make the pain of this any easier. As tins says, don't negate the pain of your loss. Look after yourself today. Xx

arigold Tue 12-Feb-13 10:33:36

ibip my gp said the same - could you perhaps see a different doctor at your practice or is this unlikely to change anything?

Bodicea Tue 12-Feb-13 10:43:43

I am a sonographer, for my sins. Currently sat in freezing cold lecture theatre on mandatory training, bored out of my mind!!

Bodicea Tue 12-Feb-13 10:45:18

That last message was to cam x

Bootyboo Tue 12-Feb-13 12:20:58

Hi all - can I jump on to join you too? Had an early mc back in October (got BFP, 3 hours later told the BETA was too low) found out just before I went on holiday so pretty shite time! Was my first pregnancy

Been trying since but no joy - think my body was a bit messed up for a few months after, even tho I was only 5 weeks, I was hoping that the old 'you are more fertile' afterwards might apply to me - sadly not...

And I love Cadburys Creme Eggs - any chocolate eggs - any chocolate really grin xx

CamomileHoneyVanilla Tue 12-Feb-13 12:47:54

Ooo, a sonographer. Very interesting. The sonographer who broke the miscarriage news to me was brilliant and lovely so am now feeling very affectionate towards them. Must be a bit emotionally gruelling at times.

Hi bettyboo. Welcome yet sorry you have to be here.

diyqueen Tue 12-Feb-13 12:58:50

Welcome bootyboo and sorry you find yourself here. Hopefully your body will sort itself out soon and you'll be luckier next time, fingers crossed for you.

Thanks bakingtins and camomile, I'm feeling a bit better today. I think it was my friend's new bump that really set me off yesterday. Better get used to it though, it's only going to get bigger isn't it!

I think af - if that's what it was - has maybe finished now (but who knows!) so back to trying properly again this month.

bakingtins, how are you? Keeping fingers crossed for you, you so deserve for everything to go really well this time.

SpanishLady Tue 12-Feb-13 15:03:17

will no doubt be wrong but... I think I can feel the start of mittelscherz today which if you take the day I started bleeding from my MC would make today the usual time I start getting it - I start to feel it and get a + opk around 13th day of my cycle - so I might do a ovul test to see - we arent ttc until after the next period so Im interested purely from the perspective of 'getting back to normal' and if I ovul then a period is 2 weeks away!

I am really hopeful

CoffeeandCremeEggs Tue 12-Feb-13 15:21:43

Afternoon all. I'm lurking around not posting much and waiting for O. No sign yet which is good as I'm away from the sperm provider DH until Thursday evening. Am then going away again Monday morning so hoping to O in that window and get lots of action in. I normally o around cd17, which will be Saturday, so I'm hopeful that the timing will work out.

Feeling whingy and full of cold. Hope everybody's well. Any poas-ing action coming up?

SpanishLady Tue 12-Feb-13 15:56:38

we seem to be in a holding pattern at the minute - dont think anyone is ready to POAS - unfortunately ):

bzzbee Tue 12-Feb-13 16:37:51

Hello all
Great to hear the updates and welcome but sorry-you're-here to the newcomers.
Re:job hunting, I have sent my CV out for a few roles now, no responses yet but it feels good to be "out there". Work is dull beyond belief. I think they are deliberately not giving me loads to do on account of the mc, that is the only explanation as where I work is notoriously tough in terms of workload etc. yawn. I'm not bothered enough to complain, energy levels very low.
It's week 4 since mc and apart from a few days last week when I got pains akin to ovulation pains and the bleeding petered off, I have had continuous bleeding. It's like a heavy/medium period now (actually hard to gauge after the horror of a mc..it's probably heavy but my expectations have risen!). Is this normal? Could this be AF? I guess the answer is there is no normal now!
X

AmelieRose Tue 12-Feb-13 16:58:00

Hi everyone, good to hear all the updates.

Well I POAS again this morning as AF is still late and I'm still experiencing symptoms... still negative!

Presuming my cycle is still mixed up from the mc. Would quite like AF to arrive so I can get back to normal. I had a chocolate fudge cupcake to cheer myself up. smile

ChocolateCremeEggBag Tue 12-Feb-13 17:02:44

Hello All

hi Booty - where are you in your cycle at the moment?

I am CD4 (of second AF since Dec MC) - and very impatient this time. Feel like I'm wishing my life away. At least my CB Fertility Monitor will start asking me to POAS in a couple of days (this sates my POAS need grin)

bzzbee - have you had a follow up scan? are you all clear from the actual MC? I guess everyone is different, but would hope the MC bleeding would stop by 6 weeks? My first AF afterwards came exactly 28 days after MC, and was pretty gory for the first 2 days.
What do you do for a job? (don't have to say if you don't want to)

Bakingtins Tue 12-Feb-13 19:33:11

bootyboo welcome, hope things settle back to normal for you quickly.

spanishlady you have the patience of a saint to be sure you are ovulating and resist jumping into bed. Hope it will stand you in good stead when you are ready to TTC again, must save you a or tune in ov sticks.

diyqueen I'm ok thanks. The world seems to be turning unbelievably s-l-o-w-l-y. I got BFP just less than a week ago and it feels like forever. Don't feel very pregnant. I'm trying to just take it as it comes and not plan ahead at all.

arigold Tue 12-Feb-13 20:57:07

My partner has just left me so I will be leaving here, we let the stress get the better of us unfortunately.

I hope everything goes well for everyone and you get your bfps soon xx

Lieslvontrapp Tue 12-Feb-13 21:01:56

Hello all can i join? I found out i had a mmc before christmas and I had an erpc. I'm now still waiting for my first af. It's been nearly 7 weeks and still absolutely no sign. Starting to think ill have a 12 wk wait like when I came off the pill last year unless I get pregnant in the meantime as we're ttc again but due to cycle I very much doubt.

Lieslvontrapp Tue 12-Feb-13 21:06:22

Bakingtins congrats on the bfp fx
Arigold -oh dear I hope you can resolve things with your partner.

Bakingtins Wed 13-Feb-13 07:27:42

arigold I'm sorry. I hope you can work things out. Are you ok?

liesVT welcome. You'll find plenty of sympathy for the WTF cycle on here. Hope AF shows soon and you get back on track with a more normal cycle.

Bakingtins Wed 13-Feb-13 07:28:26

amelie FX!

SpanishLady Wed 13-Feb-13 09:15:43

Hi Arigold - I am so sorry but as others said hope you can resolve things with your partner. Hope you are ok.

Bakingtins - I tested negative for ovulation so may just be imagining things - my horoscope (believe it when I like it!) did say today that I shouldnt try to push things along before they are ready - so I am going to get back in my box now!

Also I imagine being pregnant after a MC must be nerve wracking so taking it day by day is all that you can do. Think everyone is hoping the best for you.

JanieLovesHerThreeLeggedCat Wed 13-Feb-13 13:15:58

hey girls, been a bit awol over the last few days and haven't had much time to read through so i'm sorry if it seems i'm ignoring anyone. hi to all the newbies, and sorry to see you here, but welcome to the gang.

i hope you are ok arigold and hope you have lots of support in the real world at the minute.

had a tough day yesterday. my best friend (who i love dearly) gave birth a week to a perfect little baby boy. i'm over the moon for them, she hasn't had it easy getting pg either. but i just wept and wept and wept last night...all night. i was reading all the lovely messages on facebook and i think i was just jealous that it wasn't me announcing such great news. that probably makes me sound like a right cow but i don't mean it it that way. DH didn't really know what to do and just let me get on with it, which kinda made me feel worse... i tried to explain why i was crying but he just said 'oh come on love' sad

then i got my smear test reminder letter this morning...more hoking and poking ffs

moan moan moan...sorry about that

shellshock7 Wed 13-Feb-13 13:22:52

Hi everyone, I took myself off for a few days after that rant...I was SO angry ha ha am a lot happier now, had a fab couple of days off with DS and it's CD10 on Saturday so DTD can start up again in earnest...defo feeling like this is my month, as I say to DH bring on the turbo sperm grin (totally TMI ha ha)

Decided to cut booze out completely for the 2ww, we'll see how I get on with that! blush

Re the discussions on GP tests, I was thinking of going to see my GP if I don't get PG this time....if I say that I've had two miscarriages and explain how bad AFs are for me, do you think they may refer my early?

Hi to all the newbies, so sorry you find yourself here.

How are we all doing, any POAS action at the min? We need more BFPs!

JanieLovesHerThreeLeggedCat Wed 13-Feb-13 13:43:42

hey shell glad to hear you're feeling a bit more chipper. i would defo get to the GP, you shouldn't have to put up with that sort of pain so it's worth a shot.

we're heading away this weekend for my birthday for a couple of nights and hopefully next week should be (consenting) rape week! love the term turbo sperm! bring 'em on!!

i should have said that my friend had her baby a week EARLY so i just wasn't prepared yet

diyqueen Wed 13-Feb-13 14:31:01

arigold I can't imagine how you must be feeling, hope you manage to sort things out.

Janie, I'm already dreading my best friend giving birth and she's not even 12 weeks yet! I know I'm unlikely to even be pg by then due to our fertility issues, unless a miracle happens, which will be hard. But I'm happy for her too, just envious of her good fortune.

Af still hasn't completely gone, got caught out this morning after thinking it was all done, after a week and a half. Feel fed up bleeding and like my body's a bit of a mess. Ah well. Just booked my smear test for next week after putting it off for about 2 years, dreading it too but will be good to get it over with.

Bakingtins Wed 13-Feb-13 14:44:11

Hugs, Janie better to do your crying before you have to face her in person. It's very tough to be torn between jealousy and happiness for someone.

Janie and shell Good luck with those turbo sperm!

spanish laughing at your horoscope grin Hope next week it says "a long term project will finally bear fruit"

JanieLovesHerThreeLeggedCat Wed 13-Feb-13 14:49:27

hi diy i know what you mean - the text that she'd given birth just came as such a shock last night as she was due on monday (my birthday) - i know people go early but i just hadn't prepared myself to get the news yet!

sorry AF is being a big tease with you... hope she finally buggers off x

SpanishLady Wed 13-Feb-13 14:49:57

Oh Janie - I can sympathise - I have two friends due to give birth first week of March so will need to 'man up' when it comes to visiting them - there is another girl on the periphery of my group of friends who I have a love-hate relationship with who I know is TTC and lets just say sometimes she and her DH lack any sensitivity (eg when she got pregnant with first baby - her DH said to our mutual friends - who had tried for 2 years to get pregnant - 'I got her pregnant first time - easy, Im not a jaffar' - whatever that means)

so I will have to plaster a smile on my face and you know I am pleased for people but it will hurt I wont lie

arigold Wed 13-Feb-13 15:51:22

thanks everyone, i'm as expected but doing better thanks to my family and friends which is nice.

janie definitely better to have a melt before you see her, its hard to process the mixture of emotions, I'm sure even if you did seem a little upset she would understand!

JanieLovesHerThreeLeggedCat Wed 13-Feb-13 17:51:03

i actually won't see her for a while as i'm in ireland and she's in england, i'll probably plan a visit over in a couple of months.

anyone seen thunder recently? helloooo! is dh feeling any better?

JBrd Wed 13-Feb-13 20:29:05

I'm also dreading the soon-to-start influx of new babies that is imminent here. It'll be 1-2 babies per month starting more or less now (waiting to hear from a friend who was due last week). It's going to be so hard, and I hate myself for begrudging them their happiness and joy sad

JanieLovesHerThreeLeggedCat Wed 13-Feb-13 21:52:43

jbrd don't worry, it's natural. i'm actually fine again today, it just all hit home last night i think. i was surprised at how emotional i got, really didn;t think i'd be as bad. it just brought back the fact that it wasn't us celebrating..ya know? but now i can't wait to go visit and get baby squeezes from the little guy smile

ChocolateCremeEggBag Wed 13-Feb-13 22:44:29

Hello All, sorry that you are all having hard times with pg friends, I don't have that particular problem to contend with at the moment.

I do however have the smear test letter staring at me, was hoping to have the pg excuse, but suppose I better get on and have it (ugh shiver ugh)

Shell - looking forward to the "sextival" about start next week (DH is a bit scared when I call it that)

JanieLovesHerThreeLeggedCat Wed 13-Feb-13 23:08:31

Lolz at sextival!! Looks like a few of us are on high alert dtd week and smear testing next week!! What fun things to have in common!!!!

Hello hello everyone and Happy Valentines Day to all. <air kisses> mwah mwah.

In short:

Welcome to newbies
TOTALLY get it about feeling Waaaaa! Re new babies. Hope I will be more sensitive to my friends when it's my turn than some of them are to me as well (just flipping it over)
Good luck with the smear tests- hopefully you won't have 'elusive cervixes' phone tried to autocorrect that to crevices hee hee like I did
OH feeling much better thank you janie and we're limbering up for Sex-March. The month, not the way of walking. <mind boggles>

How are we all today? I missed you!

Bakingtins Thu 14-Feb-13 14:18:48

Hi thunder glad to hear you are in good spirits.

What did everyone get for Valentine's day then? (apart from air kisses) I got a card. I'm sure the sexy lingerie, bottle of (non-alcoholic) champers, and tickets to Paris are just waiting for this evening grin

Busy doing helping my DS1 with his holiday homework, to make a picture in the style of Paul Klee. The most fun you can have with millions of pieces of gummed paper - who knew?

JanieLovesHerThreeLeggedCat Thu 14-Feb-13 14:31:11

hey thunder good to see (?) you!! and glad that your OH is back in the game!! double fun next month to make up for it then eh!!

we're heading off this weekend for my birthday (not valentines!) but got a nice m&s meal deal tonight... although we ate the dessert already haha oops!! chocolatey puddings don't stay long in our fridge! but i did get a card and a single red rose this morning... i'm kinda against big bunches of expensive flowers at valentines...i'd rather have the money!

oh and i never changed my name to something baking related.....

JanieLovesCake Thu 14-Feb-13 14:33:06

there we go... baking and valentines themed! xx

Thunderbuns Thu 14-Feb-13 14:48:39

How about this? Baking, dtd AND pg related?

Valentines...

Me: happy Valentines day my lovely
Him: it's not valentines day til tomorrow.

Nuff said? We're having yummy food tonight- organised and cooked by he.

Hey janie and tins

shellshock7 Thu 14-Feb-13 15:00:33

Just laughed out loud at thunderbuns ha ha grin

Thunderbuns Thu 14-Feb-13 15:17:29

Hey shell, you alright duck? Feeling a bit better? Good luck with the turbo sperm...

yorkiebilb Thu 14-Feb-13 16:18:35

Hey all, sorry to hear all the tough times everyone has been going through.

Unfortunately we've had to come back from our honeymoon early as DH's father has v suddenly become seriously ill and prognosis is not good. I'm not going to be on the thread for a while as ttc is obv on hold but wanted to wish you all the v best of luck in your ttc and fx future/current healthy pgs. x

JanieLovesCake Thu 14-Feb-13 17:38:44

Aw yorkie I'm so sorry to hear your news, how awful. Hope you and dh are coping asbestos as you can in this difficult time. Keep in touch xx

thunder I'm having a right giggle at your start to v day!! And nice name!! I have a good feeling about these baking names smile now where's my glass of Pinot noir, scallops and rare steak...

JanieLovesCake Thu 14-Feb-13 17:39:28

Oops obv I didn't mean to write asbestos...stupid phone. As best as...

ChocolateCremeEggBag Thu 14-Feb-13 17:50:05

Oh yorkie hope you are ok, hope to see you back soon..

DH managed a card and Chocolate Orange this morning, he has high hopes for these evening as AF has finally gone. So now doing my pre-match warm up exercises while feeding DS. Will also make some kind of dint in the calorie overload as I am also working through the segments grin

Hope everyone is having a lovely valentines xx

Thunderbuns Thu 14-Feb-13 18:10:57

yorkie that is so shitty. Poor you and DH. Sending lots of thoughts and thanks your way. Always feel free to pop back and say hello/have a rant or whatever.

janie, we're having scallops, red wine and rare steak too! AND pâté and Camembert and blue cheese. Pg banned food a go-go!

JanieLovesCake Thu 14-Feb-13 18:18:09

haha thunder dammit i forgot to get cheese! if i could be arsed i'd make chocolate mousse with raw egg whites just to make a point!! enjoy mr & mrs thunder!!

Bakingtins Thu 14-Feb-13 21:16:05

Yorkie I'm really sorry to hear about your FIL sad

Bakingtins Thu 14-Feb-13 21:17:08

I'm liking the name changes, ladies! Hoping all our luck is changing for the better.

BumpKitty Thu 14-Feb-13 21:35:58

hey everyone - happy V day, Dh and I managed to buy each other the same card which amused us no end smile we had a tasty slimming world friendly dinner (lost 4 lbs this week!).

yorkie so sorry about your FIL, we're here if you need us you don't have to be talking about ttc. Look after each other xx

I'm on CD 12, following the sperm meets egg plan, very feint line on the opk today (nothing previous 2 days) but copious EWCM yesterday - who knows...

Today I was attempting to poas (opk) whilst bathing DD, she is in spectacular tantrum form of late, this particular one was because I wouldn't let her scramble unaided out of the bath to flush mummy's wee wee. Oh the irony of attempting to determine ovulation in the vain hope of conceiving DC2 whilst blithely allowing DC1 to risk life and limb thrashing about in a frenzy of the unfairness of pretty much everything grin

Thunderbuns Thu 14-Feb-13 21:36:35

<passes janie the cheeseboard.

pass me mousse PLEASE

CoffeeandCremeEggs Fri 15-Feb-13 10:43:13

hey hey, happy Vday everybody (for yesterday!) Liking the name changes.

I got home from a work trip yesterday evening to find OH cooking me a nice rare steak and having bought me flowers. This is kind of unprecedented. There was also wine and blue cheese. Seems to be a bit of a pattern here!

And I think I'm about to o so perfect timing for the weekend. Except now I have a rotten cold so don't feel like it. Never mind! Functional sex for the purposes of procreating it is!

JanieLovesCake Fri 15-Feb-13 11:16:01

Oh how lovely coffee ! I'm loving all the non pg food and drinks!!

And thanks for the cheese thunder I actually ate and drank so much that I got a sore tummy!

My phone app says I'm due to Ov next week however I thought I'd do a cheapy opk this morning and got
a double liner... Might go and get a clear blue Ov kit just cos obvious spending more money will guarantee pregnancy this month haha maybe my birthday weekend away might be filled with more lovin than I originally thought!! DH won't know what's hit him!!

Thunderbuns Fri 15-Feb-13 11:23:31

Morning all. Well I feel a bit rough- OH produced a bottle of champagne as well as the lovely bottle of red last night. It was worth it though!

Ahhh coffee good stuff with the flowers etc, that's sweet!

janie what day are you on now? I reckon the cb opk is a good idea- take away the confusion?

Bootyboo Fri 15-Feb-13 11:45:17

Hi again all - thanks loads for the lovely welcomes! Hope everyone had a lovely valentines day - I've got a cold man flu at the moment so was in bed by 8.30 on my own last night lol, the hot water bottle was as hot as it got under the covers sadly grin

Choccremeeggbag - I'm on cd03 at the mo - I know what you mean re wishing your life away!

On a positive note I went to sign up to a new hospital yesterday (I'm actually a UK expat in the Middle East) & have a HSG booked in for Thurs to have a look see. I'm ovulating no probs & hubby is all ok (much to his relief) so not sure why there are no more stickies. Pretty sure it's my age (34!) however, my new Dr is the aptly named Dr Shagufta which I'm hoping is a good sigh teeheeeee grin

JanieLovesCake Fri 15-Feb-13 11:50:29

Similar story here thunder we managed to finish a bottle of red while cooking tea, then 'had' to open another for the actual meal! Glad I'm off work today! I'm cd22 today, scooting off to boots to get my new ov testing toy. Should I wait til tomorrow morning to test again or is anytime good with clearblue?

JanieLovesCake Fri 15-Feb-13 14:20:20

booty that's a great dr name!! Dr Shagoften would be good ha!!

Thunderbuns Fri 15-Feb-13 14:23:21

I've got the cb digi opk and I think it says you can do it anytime but best if you haven't peed for a few hours before?

Also- I'm unclear about whether it's got some sort of 'memory' in that you're supposed to start using it before the surge so it has a baseline and therefore knows a surge is higher than normal. Do you know anything about that?

Hi booty, your hospital appt sounds like a very positive move. grin at shagufta !!

JanieLovesCake Fri 15-Feb-13 17:10:51

Oh. Crikey.... Maybe ill do another cheapo in the morning then give it a whirl! X

ChocolateCremeEggBag Fri 15-Feb-13 19:51:11

Hi Booty loving your Dr - but excuse my thickness (long week) what is a HSG?

DH is away tonight so have the tv to myself - and my choice for supper - so planning Twirl melted on toast with chocolate orange chasers. Mmmmmmm!!!!

(disclaimer - DH does all the cooking in our house since we moved 50 miles commute from my work)

BumpKitty Fri 15-Feb-13 20:13:12

thunder i wouldn't have thought they had a memory i expect they just have a threshold over which it produces a positive - though if they did have a memory it might explain whey they are so effing expensive!

janie I have fallen foul of paying more for clearblue opk to guarantee i get pg grin - also my internet cheapies are super naff. When I got pg with DD i bought the clearblue opk tests from boot s but in my haste not to be seen buying them (didn't want work to know my plans!) i whipped my debit card out of the machine too early and it buggered up the whole system and froze the till. They couldn't work out if payment had happened or not and in the end it turned out I hadn't paid, so free tests and I got pg grin

bootyboo ha ha love the docs name - hope you're feeling better soon

chocolate that sounds amazing! I bet that would be a million syns sad

JanieLovesCake Fri 15-Feb-13 21:28:29

Dammit bump I should've tried that in boots!! Then I defo would've got pg ha!!!

Thanks for the advice, I've been hung in a pee since before tea so I can try before bed! How bloody sad is that ha!! Better get back to DH... On weekend away here ha!! Hope you're all having a lovely start to the weekend grin

JanieLovesCake Fri 15-Feb-13 21:29:46

Holding* in a pee! Damn phone again!

diyqueen Fri 15-Feb-13 22:30:44

Wow chocolate I have to try melted twirl on toast! Can't believe how much junk I've eaten lately, was eating v healthily for the few weeks I was pg but all gone to pot since the mc. Should really start eating better for Ttc sake...!

I've never tried opks before but am sort of tempted reading all this. Have always had clockwork cycles but am in a wtf one now, based on dates should be ov'ing now but no signs and af the bitch still coming and going (nearly 2 weeks, she has outstayed her welcome!) so no idea what's going on, may miss our chance this month. Got to work out how to do a name change now...!

SaggyOldClothCatpuss Sat 16-Feb-13 01:32:21

Can I join you please? I MCd about 3 weeks ago, and we are just going for it. The PG was totally unexpected, (my youngest is 14, Im 37) and I was convinced that DP wouldnt want to try again, but after an emotional on my part conversation the other night, we are not going to use any contraception, and see what happens.
Fingers crossed for a quick BFP, the lost one was conceived on Cerazette, so he must have super sperm! grin
It'll be lovely to have others to talk to, the September bus and the ladies over on the miscariage bord were wonderful support and company!

Bootyboo Sat 16-Feb-13 06:29:48

Oooo choc on toast - that's a new one to try! I love melting it in a cup and eating it, hubby thinks I'm weird hehe grin The HSG (I think that's the right initials?) is basically blowing dye into the tubes to see if everything flows ok - not really looking forward to it as I've read should stay AWAY from Google mixed reports on it being uncomfy downright painful but I'm also quite excited to watch my insides on screen in a macabre way

I've also had an FSH test done - has anybody else had that?

Hahah Janie - Dr Shagoften is great! I'm going to be sniggering every time I see her now - she is very serious as well which makes me want to giggle more! Good luck with your OPK - I was lucky to nab a half price Clear Blue FM from Boots a while ago and it's ace, although the sticks cost a fortune

Thanks bumpkitty - am having a duvet day and planning on completing my box set marathon of True Blood - have a bit of a crush on Eric the Vampire going on blush

Hi Saggyclothcat (great name) xx

littlemissnorthernbird Sat 16-Feb-13 15:57:37

Wow! What a busy week you have all had! AF decided to appear last Tuesday which didn't surprise me so onto the next month of trying! Like many of you, am using clear blue ov tests so hoping to get the smiley face sometime next week! I'm on half term so that's a good opportunity...just a pity the oh doesn't have the week off too!
Booty- Dr Shagufta made me laugh! Chocolate - you sound as bad as me with the chocolate! I must try twirl on toast soon Bumpkitty - its daft isn't it that we don't want to be seen buying opk kits! Last time I went in, was trying to hide them...until the shop assistant asked me if I had used them before! Er...no! She replied 'oh there great...I got pregnant with twins when I used them!' Lovely to know, just a shame she had to share the fact I was buying them with a loud voice to the rest of Boots!!! Saggy Nice to meet you! My prednancy that ended in miscarriage was a little unexpected too but we're trying again! And to everyone else - Hello!
Have spent the afternoon in the garden planting loads of daffodils and flowers in the sunshine! Was glorious and has put me in a really good mood! Going to enjoy nice meal and wine tonight - Spring is almost here! (oh and have eaten too many creme eggs...but thought seen as on this thread am allowed!!!)

Bakingtins Sat 16-Feb-13 16:42:09

Welcome Saggy like the name, have a bit of a soft spot for Bagpuss.

Not as funny as dr Shagufta though - hope that proves to be a good omen for bootyboo.

Went and had my hair cut today - normally an ex-colleague who is also a hairdresser cuts mine and the boys, think this time she was having a bad day and ran out of patience after doing the kids (and to be fair they would try the patience of a saint) and didn't do much of a job on mine - looked a bit like a lampshade. Too much of a wuss to complain, slunk off to the local hairdresser to see if they can rescue it, cue much sucking in of breath, but it's much better. Felt loads better until hairdresser made some throwaway comment that made me realise I'm nearly as old as her mum who has just had her 40th!
Started to talk about having it coloured, but I'm not sure if it's safe in early preg, too paranoid to do something different in case it all goes wrong and I'd blame myself. Might do it as a treat if I get past first trimester.

lyndsey90 Sat 16-Feb-13 16:50:54

Hi ladies!
I had an early miscarriage early this month. It's been 7 days since I stopped bleeding, me and my OH has dtd twice since then. No idea when I'm due to ovulate or have my monthly...

Any ideas? My af was due on 24th but doubt that will happen now....

SaggyOldClothCatpuss Sat 16-Feb-13 17:08:18

We DTD last night, then after DP questioned whether it was a good idea to use no contraception! confused he's been so lovely recently, and it's a big thing for him to actually agree to try, that a wobble or two are expected, but before might have been a good idea!

Bakingtins Sat 16-Feb-13 17:13:24

Hi lyndsey. I'm afraid it's anyone's guess what will happen first cycle after MC. For me it's been about a week longer than normal both times, but it can be a normal cycle or really long....

lyndsey90 Sat 16-Feb-13 17:15:27

Ugh. Fed up with it already lol. It's made me actually take a step back and make me wonder if my house is ready for a baby. So much needs doing that I've not really be too bothered with. But now I'm wondering if it was a sign. Hmm!!!

fod27 Sat 16-Feb-13 18:20:32

Hi folks.... Looking for guidance.

We had our 12 week scan on wed and we were told that they couldn't find a heartbeat -baby passed at 8 weeks- this is my first mc. I have had two healthy pregnancies from a previous relationship and my fiancé is concerned that he may be the cause - he has no children - ridiculous of course but I think it's parts of the process, I've blamed myself for sneaking cups of coffee, not noticing, looking for signs etc etc

We are at home awaiting for nature to take its course (we this never end!) then if course there is the joy of after scans and still the possibility of a ERPC

The only thing giving me hope atm is the possibility of ttc again, I read a few positive stories now of successful after mc so I have that to cling to, plus the research that says women are more fertile 6 months after mc - not sure how true that is

I suppose in a nutshell I am emotionally and physically fucked! Pardon the language I'm somewhat bitter atm at the injustice of it all and need to vent

shellshock7 Sat 16-Feb-13 19:05:58

Hi fod same happened to me with my first MC, it is totally and utterly shit and all I can say is ride it out and try again when you're ready....I got PG with DS 3m after if that helps any. Hope you're being looked after in RL and come vent on here when you need smile

fod27 Sat 16-Feb-13 19:15:02

Shellshock that really does help....any flicker of hope is greatly received right now. I think we saw it as some kind of death sentence (hope that makes sense) I'm glad to see that there really is life after mc.

My fiancé has been a complete rock, this has definitely brought us closer together and he has been so supportive and caring, family have been great too it's nice to know that we have support

I'm sure that there will much more venting to come xxxx

shellshock7 Sat 16-Feb-13 20:48:17

I totally understand that feeling fod, I felt that low for a good couple of weeks after it was all over....what have the hospital said to you abt what happens next? If you want any advice on what could happen I can help with some parts and there will be other people here that will have been thru the same unfortunately but that will mean we all understand.

Depending on what type of person you are, I found becoming a bit obsessed with TTC actually helped me climb out of the fog, I learnt my cycle inside out, charted etc. so I thought abt that loads instead...might not be your thing but it defo helped me.

Shout out if you need anything while you are going thru this x

fod27 Sat 16-Feb-13 20:59:02

Shellshock I'm exactly like that, we have already talked about ttc I have ov kits left over from when we were trying before and have already decided to buy more...,its giving me something to cling to and helps me to look to the future. I have the "it can't all have been for nothing" mentality and I know that if I don't keep trying that's exactly how I feel.

I have a friend that lost 3 in a row and now has a little girl so that helps too.

They told me to try it the natural way as that would be better if I wanted to ttc again however they also said I would have to come in for a scan to make sure I had shed everything. If that's not the case I would have to have the op and then follow up scans to make sure that I was clear

They also said we should wait until I have had one menstrual cycle before ttc so that my body is back on track xxx

Bakingtins Sat 16-Feb-13 21:06:42

Hi fod glad you decided to come across - the ladies on here are fab. There have been lots of posts about whether to wait once cycle to TTC again. Main reason quoted (which is not a v good one) is it makes a future pregnancy easier to date as it may not be obvious when you ov'd immediately postMC and you can use a MC date as an LMP date. Think that is where a dating scan comes in....
The other consideration is that a lot of us have found first period is a lot heavier and concluded that whatever the scan that gave us the 'all clear' says, there was still quite a lot of material/womb lining left behind, so first proper AF is a good clear out and getting everything back to normal. Plenty of people have got pregnant without a period and it's all been fine though. We didn't 'try' but didn't 'prevent' either, but I didn't get a BFP anyway. I think as soon as you are emotionally ready to try again I'd go for it. For a lot of us TTC is part of the healing process, I wanted to set things right in some way by getting pregnant again.

shellshock7 Sat 16-Feb-13 21:10:19

Hopefully that helps you too then....the hospital told me 3 months but I think most people get told a month?? We didn't TTC for the first month at all tho, but I know some people do get PG again straight away, it's a personal choice.

Having children already must be a bit of a comfort too as at least you know you can (feel for your DH, as you say it's not right but can see why he is worrying that it's his prob).

I waited for nature too and miscarried at home, so again if I can help at all I will smile

Queenofcakes Sat 16-Feb-13 21:32:21

fod I was told to wait for first af, we half heartledly tried anyway but no joy I think as it was a completely messed up cycle (and first af has lasted the best part of 2 weeks so still feeling pretty messed up this cycle too). I chose to let nature take its course with my mc too, didn't need any extra treatment but it did take a long time and lots of hospital visits for scans and blood tests. Hope all goes well for you.

Hoping af has finally finished but think I may have ov'd during the end of it (wtf?) so dammit may have missed my chance this month. Going to try anyway over the next week just in case. Definitely going to try opks next cycle. Being v lazy at the moment, my name change is very apt as I have done hardly any DIY/house stuff despite my good intentions but have eaten a tonne of cake, biscuits, Creme eggs etc...

fod27 Sat 16-Feb-13 21:42:53

Bakingtins glad I have too, it's nice to share and read other people's experiences...although its a really awful thing to go through its comforting to know we are not alone in this. I had no idea that the first cycle acted as a 'clear out' cycle. Think it's def best to wait until after bearing that in mind. I feel as though there is light at the end of the tunnel now we have decided ttc again...it gives me something to focus on as oppose to dwelling on the pain and injustice of what we are going through atm, not that I'm saying it will be easy.

Shellshock Wow really??!!!! 3 months?! Crikey that seems like a really long time to wait. It is a comfort and definitely makes me appreciate what I have been blessed with and I'm very lucky in that respect, I just wish I appreciated it more at the time. I was a very young mother and this was our chance to do it again 'properly' that may sound strange, plus my partner would really love children of his own and I appreciate how hard that must be for him xxx

shellshock7 Sat 16-Feb-13 22:09:14

Yeah I had no complications or anything so dunno why?! I always wonder tho as coincidentally DS was conceived after 3m, tho I know it's rubbish as its all luck really

fod27 Sat 16-Feb-13 22:12:37

It's great that you went on to have DS tho smile we were concerned about it happening again ;(

shellshock7 Sat 16-Feb-13 22:20:50

Sadly, most people on here agree, pregnancy is hard after MC...it's good you are thinking forward tho, that will help you lots

fod27 Sat 16-Feb-13 23:24:43

Is the general consensus that its difficult to conceive after mc? That's very worrying, as this is my first mc that was our biggest fear hat we would struggle to get pregnant again

shellshock7 Sat 16-Feb-13 23:36:14

Sorry 'fod' I meant that when you are PG again, it is hard after MC as you naturally worry more, sorry if I upset you....I personally haven't found getting PG again to be an issue

SaggyOldClothCatpuss Sun 17-Feb-13 00:09:13

Sadly, most people on here agree, pregnancy is hard after MC...
I think back to my first pregnancies. I was early twenties, totally invincible back then! I sailed through both with no thought for complications. Miscarriage never entered my head! I wish I was back there!

fod27 Sun 17-Feb-13 01:04:44

Shellshock phewwwww I was panicking then... I was 17 and 21 when I had my kids (so yes mega young and resilient) I'm now 29 I will be 30 in July but I don't think that should be a worry ..... Here's hoping anyway xxxx

Bakingtins Sun 17-Feb-13 08:46:06

There's no reason you should struggle to conceive again after MC if you had no fertility issues in the first place. You often hear it said that you are more fertile in the few months following a MC, I don't know if that is true either?
It's most likely that you've had absolutely shitty luck this time and that next time everything will be ok. According to Prof Lesley Regan, your chance of a miscarriage next time after a single MC is 20%, compared to a risk for all pregnancies of 15%, or, let's think positive, you have an 80% chance of having a successful pregnancy. It is hard though, you can't get the innocence back of blithely assuming a BFP = a baby.

CamomileHoneyVanilla Sun 17-Feb-13 08:56:25

Morning folks,

Ugh, feeling worse for wear this morning. Too much wine (and chocolate) last night. Bliss at the time, but now there is hangover and guilt. DH being very good and bringing me everything in bed. It's not entirely altruistic, he just doesn't want me interrupting the cricket. I may take advantage and whine for weetabix in a bit. I also weighed myself this morning and discovered to my horror that I have put on 10lbs since finding out I was pregnant. I actually think the majority of that is the confort eating I've been doing since. So have made the decision to restart the diet and the gym (tomorrow).

Welcome to the new people and sorry for your experiences. Fod, Ove read loads and not found a thing suggesting its difficult to get pregnant again. I'm looking forward to trying again (!), but am anticipating I'll be very anxious if/when we're successful. I think unfortunately anxiety post-mc is one of those things.

I was told to wait three months too. That went in one ear and out the other. I wonder why though. One month I 'get' in terms of dating but don't understand the rationale behind three. I suppose it must be emotional recovery. I think we're going to 'not be careful' until first AF then start trying after that.

I need a new book. Can anyone suggest something good? Not too heavy but nothing sappy either.

shellshock7 Sun 17-Feb-13 09:58:49

camomile snap, drank too much Fri and Sat and feel done in now....think my brain has told me to drink loads before ovulation as I've decided to go dry for the 2ww grin

Feeling good tho, back on the case DTD so feel as if we are at least trying to get PG again...I hate AF and pre ovulation days, just a waste of time!

Hope you're ok this morning fod smile

fod27 Sun 17-Feb-13 11:11:09

Cammomile I too have piled on the pounds, decided to embrace the fact I was going to get bigger and splurged... Now left feeling emotionally and physically crap, doesn't help that I'm still in maternity clothes either ;(

We have both decided to hit the gym for fertility, vanity and something to focus on

Woke up feeling ok, I think with each day that passes you get used to the idea ( never thought I'd say that) until I remember the physical element my body has yet to go through. Every twinge or cramp I have makes me think 'this is it' and then nothing
Want this chapter to just be over so we can move on, start trying and thinking positive xxx

Hopefully we will all be back announcing BFPs, successful scans and discussing names

Bakingtins Sun 17-Feb-13 11:48:51

Cam try "The one hundred yr old man who climbed out of a window and disappeared". I've found it hard to concentrate on novels recently but I enjoyed that one. If you have a Kindle it was only about 70p.

Bootyboo Sun 17-Feb-13 13:43:55

Sorry to hear about your m/c Fod - life is just so unfair at times! It's amazing how many people you hear have had m/cs once you have had one yourself - I was in a car full of ladies on the way home after a meal the other day - they are older than me and have kids and they were chatting - they ALL had a miscarriage at one point or another! I was amazed

Hi Lyndsey - I like you had a really early m/c - one strange thing I found with me is that my ovulation was a bit odd for a few months afterwards, even tho I was only about 5 weeks or so - I don't think that is the norm though and most ladies's cycles just seems to adjust themselves straight away so good luck - just don't worry if it takes a little longer to righten as I panicked a bit.

fod27 Sun 17-Feb-13 17:21:03

Bootyboo your soo right! The more people we have to tell the more we discover our friends and family have gone through the same things.... It's a little comforting especial those that went onto have children.

Your right it's so unfair! I have a hate the world attitude atm, especially when I see heavily pregnant women or newborns...breaks my heart

Lieslvontrapp Sun 17-Feb-13 20:31:51

Lynsey / fod sorry that you find yourselves on here. There are many ladies on here that can relate to your situations. I'm now 7+ weeks after erpc and still no af. We are not preventing but not actively trying due to wtf cycle and thinking we should have one clear out cycle. I poas on Friday just to check as no af but got a bfn. Just wish af would arrive!

CamomileHoneyVanilla Sun 17-Feb-13 21:31:50

Evening,

Well, what I'd anticipated would be a horrible, difficult day ended up being fine. We were off to meet my best friend's new baby. Turned out to be fine which was a shock as I have found myself glaring at practically anyone with a pram or bump since last week. I think its because they such great people and make such a lovely little family, its somehow hard to be anything other than over the moon for them. Randoms with bumps though - grr. Some lady actually caught me snarling at her in tescos today. From the sympathetic smile in response I think there was a shared understanding that she knew exactly what I was thinking and had been there. Random compassion - nearly made me cry (think I may still be a little hormonal).

Thanks for the tip about the book tins. Ordered it from amazon today, along with the two 'often bought with' books suggested, so excited about having lots to read which I wouldn't have necessarily discovered myself (how I've tended to discover good reads). Feeling good about gym and diet tomorrow too. If I come on here having not gone I need berating. I'm with you fod - throwing self in to other stuff appears a good way of dealing. I'm a week or so 'ahead' of you though - you are looking after yourself as well aren't you? Are you in work this week.

Shellshock - hope the hangover wore off.

Night night.

fod27 Sun 17-Feb-13 22:54:20

No I get half term off (perk of being a teacher I suppose) started bleeding today and cramping, really scared now I know it's about to happen. Fiancé has been fab and is really lookin after me...hope AF returns soon.... Read a few like that - take a whole to return to normal - that's now a worry too ESP as I want to TTc ASAP. Glad to hear you had a good day xxxx sendin you best wishes

CamomileHoneyVanilla Mon 18-Feb-13 07:22:06

Oh fob, it's so sad isn't it. I can only speak from my experience but I found deep breathing quite useful for getting through the physical side of things. Not into meditation or yoga at all so it was only deep breathing (in slowly through nose, hold a bit, out slowly) but I found it helped with pain and kept me a but calmer. Everyone is different though so just sending love and wishing you all the best. It's shit. Xxx

Bakingtins Mon 18-Feb-13 08:03:19

Fod how are you this morning? Hope you are being looked after.

Cam get your trainers on! Hope you like the book. It's great you were able to be happy for your friend. I think you are right that it's often random people or acquaintances that are harder to deal with, where you don't know the backstory. I had 2 colleagues give birth the same week I miscarried and were parading around showing off babies (grr - but to be fair they didn't know why I'd been off sick)

Liesl hope your AF shows up very soon.

SpanishLady Mon 18-Feb-13 09:38:49

Hi Fod,

its been 19 days since my MC and its a weird journey (so to speak) but you do get better so while im so sorry what is happening to you try to hold on and be kind to yourself - you are going to come out the other side ok.

Cam - I thought I was doing great then went to see a friend's new house yesterday - she is due her 2nd baby the first week of March - I did feel weird seeing her bump (not that I had one but you know as in to see a sucessful pregnancy) - she is a nice girl but my goodness cant people be insensitive - after asking me how I was doing she proceeded to tell me how her MIL once had a MC and 'found it really hard to conceive again' -thanks for that I thought and also a bit weird given the MIL went onto have another children after the MC! Then spent the afternoon saying how she hated being pregnant and felt like she was trapped in a fat suit and was so tired etc etc and I thought well I do remember towards the end of pregnancy you do feel big and abit fed up but on the other hand I was thinking why dont you just fucking shut up you stupid lucky bitch!

phew - got that off my chest

shes a nice girl and I will be very happy for her when baby comes - forgive me for being mean - this is what I am finding - I think Im doing great and then have a little breakdown - I went home and wept buckets.

CamomileHoneyVanilla Mon 18-Feb-13 10:39:34

Spanish - yeah, that would've floored me too - its amazing how people can be so thoughtless and unempathic isn't it (makes me nervous about all the times I've probably been inadvertantly thoughtless). My friend was sensitive about it yesterday; she struggled with ttc so maybe 'gets it' in a way people don't when they've sailed through the whole thing with no problems. I'm really cross on your behalf though. You're not being mean.

I'm anticipating being up and down. There are some people I'm dreading seeing, generally people who got pregnant roughly when I did for example. There is one ex-colleague of mine who is one of those 'perfect girls' who I disliked anyway, I think out of pure jealously if I'm honest. Her e-mail announcing her pregnancy arrived on the day of my booked 12-week scan and I was absolutely distraught. We must've conceived within days of eachother and it was all "we obviously couldn't announce it before in case blah blah blah, but we had the scan yesterday and saw a perfect little blah". She didn't know so it wasn't thoughlessness (shes far too perfect to be thoughless - grrr) just excitment. I am going to avoid her like the plague as I honestly don't think I will cope with it! And I don't care how childish that might be {{stomp stomp}}

Hope you're ok fod.

xxx

fod27 Mon 18-Feb-13 11:26:57

Hi guys I totally understand where your coming from we took the kids out to a jungle bungle type place (so of course it's full of kids) the place was packed so we had to sit by the entrance....where I got to see all the new born babies being carried in....fanfuckingtastic!! We of course moved as soon as another table became available
I ha e one friend who had been great she has mc 3 times (one after the other) went for tests and had to have an injection during her fourth pregnancy ...so of course she totally gets it, however theres a right bitch I work with (she's fully aware I don't like her, I told her i would remain professional but I didn't want to see or speak to her socially) she has sent another colleague of mine a text to forward to myself basically consisting of her experience of mc -she's very much a me me me person oh and mentioned that she "wants to be friends and would like to talk" what the fuck?!!
I am so annoyed, like I'm not going through enough right now and this ridiculous human being thinks I have the time or inclination to play stupid playground games
We went the mother in laws and I started to bleed a little (bright red at first, that was followed by a dark brown blood) I had some mild cramping pains and then nothing ;( it's driving me crazy! Is this the start? Will it still take ages? The not knowing is awful

SpanishLady Mon 18-Feb-13 11:37:42

thanks Cam - I was worried I would come across as being precious - I dont expect people to dim down their excitement or even care about my situation as they can only live their lives but I did think she could have talked about something else at least for part of the afternoon.

My DH is planning all these social events for us and I dont want to go - I dont want to be a shut in and act all woe is me but I want to regroup first - I want to be nice and quiet and relax in my own little universe for a while - I dont want to go tearing around getting drunk and staying up to 6am - my DH doesnt understand this and thinks it would be good for me.

I know these arent the only answers but right now only 2 things will help me: 1) a baby 2) everything to be over in that regard eg be 50+ and start menopause so I can let it go

I was really happy on Sat as well - we dtd for the first time since I MC'd and it was lovely not to be baby related and I felt good that we can passed another milestone.

shellshock7 Mon 18-Feb-13 21:19:20

Hi fod, really tough times for you I know, unfortunately no one can say how it will be...I hope it's over quick now and you can start moving on. Second cam with the breathing, at least you'll know abt that from labour....and wine helped me, not everyone's way I know but over the counter pain relief ain't the best.

booty I knew nothing abt MC before mine and then found out so many people had had them sad It is so unfair and so sad.

Oh spanish hope you're ok...I went a bit wild after my first MC with nights out and it was daft cos I'd cry at end of the night drunk, then the next day hungover! Didn't make the same mistake this time round (tho DS is here now) and felt a lot better for it. Your DH prob just wants to make you feel better and thinks the quicker you get back to normal the better, hope you can talk it thru and feel a bit better soon smile

Nothing to report for me....just time is going sloooooooow, CD12 is that it?! shock

IBelieveInPink Mon 18-Feb-13 21:34:55

Hi ladies. Been away for a bit again. Trying to get my head together, being a bit useless recently. Hi to all the newbies, sorry to see you here.

To whoever asked about books (sorry, I am on phone) I have just bought 'gone girl'. Not started reading it yet, but is meant to be very good.

Completely get what you all mean about insensitive people too. I can't work out if it is me being overly sensitive ( which I know I am) or if people are actually just being complete arses at the moment. Suspect it a mix of both, which is why I am hibernating in the house and trying not to see anyone. Makes going to work tricky though!!!

GardenWorm Tue 19-Feb-13 07:38:22

Hello newbies and welcome to the last place in the world you wanted to be but under the circumstances is a good place to be.
Fod I really hope things get moving for you soon x

Question; do OPK's do the job as well as temping? (Honestly think I will mess up temping sounds too complex for my frazzled brain!)
Not convinced I'm ovulating. Also which brands do you use and what day do you start??? Thank you!

Floweroct Tue 19-Feb-13 07:57:11

Haven't been on here for a while sorry to see the newbies. It's been nine weeks now since erpc and still haven't had af, got a negative preg test after about four weeks. Is it normal for af to take this long? It's getting me really down now sad

JanieLovesCake Tue 19-Feb-13 08:21:06

Hey ibip that's our book club book for next month, it looks really good (I sneakily read the start of it). This month is 'one for the money' which I haven't even started yet oops!

Flower my AF took 10 weeks to come, like you, I was beginning to get panicky. Are your cycles normally quite regular? I put mine down to having 50 day cycles but really there's no set time for them to come back. I really understand your frustration at just wanting to get on with things sad think if they don't come back within about 14 wks then you're advised to let your dr know, although I'm not sure what would do. I hope they come back soon x

garden I was totally baffled by temping, also i read that it changes after ovulation so dies that mean you've missed the boat? I didn't get it! But then I'm the sort if person that doesn't always read the instructions! Re opks, I tend to use Internet cheapies on eBay, mega cheap. I did splurge on some clearblue ones this month, so bloody expensive though!

JBrd Tue 19-Feb-13 09:31:14

Hi all, I've been a bit quiet on here recently, but have been reading... Hope you're all doing OK!

I can completely sympathise with the feeling of not wanting to go out and socialise, I more or less barricaded myself up at home pretty much during and after my mc/erpc. Everyone is different, but for me, it was the right thing. I didn't want to have to socialise or having to make small talk, I just wanted to live in a little safe bubble for a while, to be able to come to terms with what was happening.
The only people I felt comfortable talking to were the friends who I knew had also had mc... Where I didn't have to explain anything, they knew what I was going through and how I felt. I spent hours on the phone with them.

Well, my af has just come back for the first time, 5 weeks after my ERPC. I had been using OPKs to track what was going on, but did not pick up anything. Did I ovulate? I had ewcm on a number of days, but quite random. Who knows...
Hoping it's onwards and upwards from now on!

Queenofcakes Tue 19-Feb-13 11:14:24

Hello everyone. floweroct, sorry it's taking so long for you, that must be a worry, and I so know what you mean about wanting to get on with things. Nice to see you again ibip, hope you're ok, I'm feeling pretty low too at the moment and just want to be pregnant again.

Are you still there thunderbuns? It looks like I'll be joining you in waiting another month thanks to poorly dp - thought I'd ov'd but caved and bought an opk and today's the day and he refused last night as he was tired and says he's not up for it today as he didn't sleep well and feels a bit funny (and is at work till quite late). Aaaaargh! I could understand if he had flu or something, if I was him I'd make an effort, but perhaps my longing to be pg again is making me a bit selfish. Feeling fed up and glum anyway.

Thunderbuns Tue 19-Feb-13 18:06:45

Hi everyone, I, too have been rather quiet. Partly because I'm out this month but also because I'm busy and trying not to think about ttc too much.

Welcome to other newbies, sorry you're here. fod particularly horrible time for you, hope you're ok.

queeno I'm here! My oh had proper flu and he did try bless him, but no joy so I feel your pain. Af due for me between thurs (cd29 like the good old days) and next tues (day34 like last cycle) or at any time really.

Hey pink.

floweroct you could always ask for some advice re af if it doesn't come soon? It is horrible doing the waiting and not knowing game.

<passes round Jaffa cakes to all>

ChocolateCremeEggBag Tue 19-Feb-13 19:14:21

Hello All

Fod hope things have restarted for you - would you want to go for medical management or an ERPC if MC doesn't come naturally? As I would keep ringing EPU and see if they'll seee you back sooner than I assume they've said. It's tough not knowing what will happen.

Flower - I would second the calling either GP or the EPU again to see if they can give you any more advice?

Hi Shell CD 11 today for me - first High on the CB Fertility Monitor so the sex festival starts up tonight grin Have got zumba tonight too so busy busy. Garden - I can't work out temping and couldn't get cheapy OPK's to work (or I never ov'd when using them) so spending far too much on CB tests.

Keep seeing lots of bumps at work, but no one who knows about my MC. I think I'm going to find it the hardest when it get's closer to the due date, when I'm still at work but should have been on maternity leave. We have our busiest time in July and was looking forward to skiving off missing the fun!

Lieslvontrapp Tue 19-Feb-13 20:12:05

Fod - hope you are ok.

Flower - I now exactly how you feel as I am a week behind you and its been almost 8 weeks since my erpc and no AF. I'm thinking I will wait until 10 weeks and then go see the GP. I did have to wait about 10 weeks for my AF after coming off the pill so its not a completely unexpected. Hope we both get our AF soon!

IBelieveInPink Tue 19-Feb-13 20:13:55

Ah thunder, I know that feeling. Avoiding thinking about it. Finding that hard right now though. Not long til you will be back in the game smile

Choc - they are everywhere aren't they?! Bumps all round!! Boo hiss. Doesn't help that I work above a maternity clinic, so regularly see bumps anyway. Pah.

So, am on cd10, and all of a sudden earlier had, Erm, quite a bit of ewcm. Don't usually even see this for another 4 days. Could my cycles be that messed up that it is now ov time early?! I hope not, DH is working late for this week so no time at all to dtd!!! Waaaaaaaahhh!!!!

Bakingtins Tue 19-Feb-13 20:53:13

Jump on him in the morning just in case IBIP!
Nice to see everyone checking in - hello to jbrd garden flower janie thunder and anyone I missed.

GardenWorm Wed 20-Feb-13 07:30:49

Thank you Janie and ChocCremeEggBag - gonna splurge on the CB and see what happens......

Thunderbuns Wed 20-Feb-13 09:11:42

Yeah ibip, any chance of some morning lovin?

tins how are you doing?

garden yeah I tried cheapies, got confused, and then tried cb digi. Started on cd10, got smiley on cd13, very simple to use. Being able to use fmu especially makes them a winner for me.

SaggyOldClothCatpuss Wed 20-Feb-13 10:40:56

GAH! DP has been out of action this week. He's not feeling great, we have a zombie bug going round here, and has pulled his neck lifting paving slabs. It's ironic really! We've tried to DTD 3 times this week and have ended up giving up and just going to sleep! confused
Given how early days it is, and dps big turn around on TTC I'm trying to not look remotely bothered and just go with the flow, and i know obsession is not a good thing, but inside I'm doing a dance of frustration!
I'm still waiting for AF to return post mc, and I feel like its on its way but no sign yet. I hope it hurries up. I would like to feel back to normal!

Bakingtins Wed 20-Feb-13 12:28:21

Sorry to hear your DHs are not cooperating, Queen and Saggy. It is very frustrating. I did not seem to be able to get DH to grasp that if we missed an opportunity it was a whole month to wait. He's not normally a stupid man.....

Hi thunder. I'm ok, thanks for asking. Nothing to report. I'm 6+3 and prev have miscarried between 8-10 weeks so those weeks are going to be difficult. Trying not to plan ahead at all, but of course it does affect all the decisions we make for later in the year, so putting them off until after Easter. Get a bit cross with DH as he keeps asking "How's Keith?" (Keith Cheggers = preggers = pet name for all prev bumps) and I'm thinking "I have no idea, I'd love to say fine, for all I know there is an empty sac there and I'm deluding myself"
Sorry, turned into a bit of a rant!

I haven't joined an antenatal thread, there are just too many people and they are all discussing prams etc already. I'm waiting for a little flurry of BFPs which of course are going to come soon smile and then we'll start a Laura Ashley/Creme Egg pregnancy thread.

Bootyboo Wed 20-Feb-13 12:49:47

Sex festival lol! Love it!! grin I'm going to sell it to hubby as that this month - last month I kept getting 'What, again!?' he's no spring chicken now bless him

I use the Clear Blue Fertility Monitor - have to say its really good (not sure that hubs would agree with all those high days tho!). I'm going to see Dr Shaggy again tomorrow & get the HSG (dye in tubes) done - bit nervous about it but I've read it can clear out any cobwebs & a lot of ladies get pregnant soon after. Worth a go anyways

For me one of the worst thing is the endless waiting and constantly wondering to myself 'will I, won't I' get pregnant again - so draining sad Just all seems to take so long - whether it's the 2ww, appointments, ov etc. fed up with it now! Want to obsess about something else! But hopefully it will be worth it.

I've also got 'Gone Girl' to read - heard its had great reviews smile

WillSantaComeAgain Wed 20-Feb-13 14:33:33

Hello,

Is there room on the bus for another one? Me: 1DC aged 2. MMC1 in Aug (found out at dating scan), MMC2 last week (found out after lying to get seen by EPAU at 8wks, after the hospital refused to take a MW referral). ERPCs after both (second one yesterday). Both MMCs showed an empty sac and lots of other things that have been variously thought to be cysts, clots or molar.

So, what next? Because both mcs were identical does anyone have any tips on whether I should start pushing for investigations? What causes empty sacs? EPAU seemed to suggest I'd be called back for an appt with a consultant there, but probably not for two months.

Despite the fact that this week would have been my EDD and not one, not two but THREE friends are in the process of giving birth, I am feeling quite positive and looking forward to TTC again. However, I'm dreading the next wave of pg announcements in RL. (On here at least) I make no apologies for being a bitter, twisted and resentful old harridan.

bumpkitty - were you kittybump on the Dec10 antenatal thread <waves like a loony if you were, I was another Santa name back then>

JanieLovesCake Wed 20-Feb-13 14:57:59

hey girlies, well our sex fest (or rape week as my friend calls it) will commence tonight! woohoo! had my smear test on my lunch break - what a lovely way to spend it ha! but the nurse was lovely and asked what i would be having for my lunch while she was poking about! i feel more sorry for her!

so sorry to welcome you to the gang santa and feel free to rant like a monster as and when you feel fit. i hope you are doing as well as can be expected, pg friends don't help sad i was diagnosed with a partial molar pregnancy after my d&c in october, went for weeks and weeks of tests and then they decided they had misdiagnosed and that at further inspection, it was just a big mass of watery cysts. no one ever said if it was anything to worry about and i got the go ahead to ttc again so hopefully it won't happen again if we do get a bfp someday. will they do a pathologist report on your erpc results? fx all is ok xx

bakingtins i like your plan of the graduation to bfp thread! hope i'll manage to graduate there someday!

SaggyOldClothCatpuss Wed 20-Feb-13 15:37:49

I'm loving rape week! grin
Welcome sadly WillSanta.
I've just had a call from the EPAU. My latest hCG test hasn't dropped much, I've stalled about 140. I've got to go in and see the Dr next Thursday. I'm concerned now. I've had a few cramps and though AF was on the way, but nothing. It's bloody typical! When I was pg I didn't want to see red, and did, now I'm not pg and want to, it's not there! confused

JanieLovesCake Wed 20-Feb-13 16:09:41

saggy try not to worry too much (although that's easy for me to say). i had my hcg levels tested every fortnight for a few months months after my d&c (as i mentioned in my last post i had been misdiagnosed with molar pg but they kept monitoring me anyway - still don't know why ). you had your erpc about 4 weeks ago is that right? for what it's worth, i had mine on 4th october, and 4 weeks later my levels were at 220. they gradually came down and finally got to normal on 17th January (so that was 15 weeks - it took AF 10 weeks to make an appearance). from all my research (i became a bit obsessed with hcg levels!!) 140 doesn't sound too worrying, relatively soon after your op. some girls find that levels drop quite considerably after first AF, so i hope your cramps are AF letting you know she's on her way and that you're mind will be put at rest as soon as possible. try not to let it stress you too much if you can help it xx

SaggyOldClothCatpuss Wed 20-Feb-13 18:18:06

I MCd naturally about 3 weeks ago.

shellshock7 Wed 20-Feb-13 18:41:21

Hope fod is doing ok

flower that sounds hard, sorry I've no advice just hope AF arrives soon

Jbrd that's good, good luck for this month smile

Oooo good luck chocolate grin

saggy hope AF shows up soon and DH feels better

Welcome santa sorry you find yourself here, moan away if you need to and good luck getting the tests you need

pink snap?! I usually ovulate CD19 and only on CD14 and have some myself today, confused confused But I think I have flu, it's rubbish feel so terrible but don't have a cold?! Just achey and sleeping all day, we DTD CD10 but nothing since and now we have to tonight just in case and I really don't want to and DH won't want to come near me in case he gets it ha ha Will take one for the team tho grin

Floweroct Wed 20-Feb-13 19:06:21

Thanks for your opinions girls. janie I have pcos and my cycles before were anything from 32 to over 100 so who knows when it'll appear! liesl I hope af appears for you too soon. santa sorry to see you here.

baking would be great if we could all graduate to a new thread soon!

Apologies for not name checking everyone as I'm in my phone!

BumpKitty Wed 20-Feb-13 19:15:43

hey santa yep that's me! Changed my name around as 'B' names were lucky on this thread. Sorry to meet you here but lovely to see you smile DD is 2 and 2 months as I suspect is yours! I had an empty sac too back in October (ERPC in Nov) and still waiting for another BFP. I was told it was just one of those things so not sure what it signifies if you have two in row. Well done on the positive attitude though, my EDD is fast approaching and I'm not sure how I'll deal with it sad
big wave to everyone else, anyone testing soon? I had my first smiley face on Monday (previously only used non digi or ic) it was pretty exciting!

SaggyOldClothCatpuss Wed 20-Feb-13 19:50:44

FFS! 3 facebook PG announcements in a week. sad All due within a fortnight of when I was due too. I suddenly feel like having my own baby is a long long way away. sad

shellshock7 Wed 20-Feb-13 20:02:59

Oh saggy that's so hard, my BF was pregnant with her first when I lost my first, we were due 4 weeks apart, it's so hard to see what could of been....stay positive, it WILL be you soon smile

SaggyOldClothCatpuss Wed 20-Feb-13 20:14:48

I know. Im just happy for them and sad for me. sad
I thought Id be discharged by the EPAU today, but Im still on weekly bloods and have to see the doctor next week. I just want to move on.

CamomileHoneyVanilla Wed 20-Feb-13 21:04:36

In bed already. Headache - boo.

I'm two weeks post miscarriage tomorrow. Research has suggested you generally ovulate between two to four weeks later so we were considering starting TTC again basically as of the weekend. I thought I'd be dying to, but I actually think we may consider leaving it until after first AF. Coping pretty well with the whole thing at the mo but not sure I want to push my luck on it as still feel somewhat fragile. Someone in rl also suggested that they suggest you wait as getting pg can deplete stores of folic acid - does anyone know if this is true. I expect its not as I'm sure I would've read it elsewhere if it was. I don't feel up to being pg again just yet anyway but just wondering. I also got that job I applied for believe it or not which is also adding to the wanting to leave it a month or two. Yay! It's not quite the change I'd imagined for myself but it'll do for a (very) short while.

I'm suddenly a bit surprised at everyone's monitoring. I m/c in hospital but haven't had any follow up at all. Is that something I need to worry about. I stopped bleeding about 12 days later. Nothing feels amiss. No idea about my bloods but still getting positive pregnancy tests. Does anyone know whether you can ovulate with pregnancy hormone in your blood (out of curiosity and in case we throw caution to the wind at the weekend).

I agree; we need some BFPs... Or at least some more ovulating.... Or AFs would be nice (we're not asking a lot really are we!).

On phone so struggling to check all of the thread. There was someone new - hey. Sorry you have to be here but happy to have you.

Does anyone have any nice plans for the weekend to distract. I'm thinking of venturing to the swimming pool and taking hubby on a date (have a desire for tapas).

SaggyOldClothCatpuss Wed 20-Feb-13 21:27:21

Im sure I read in another thread that you can ovulate with hCG in your blood. I'm being monitored because the scan couldnt find anything in utero. It was a PUL. They were worried it might have been ectopic.

CamomileHoneyVanilla Wed 20-Feb-13 21:51:39

Oh right. I can see what you mean by just wanting to move on, I imagine its a bit of a limbo situation. I really feel for you hon and hope that it all sorts itself out and AF come ASAP. Hugs. X

Bakingtins Thu 21-Feb-13 07:27:05

Santa sorry you find yourself here but you are very welcome.

Cam congrats on the new job. Probably an excellent thing to have a positive new focus.
Cam & Saggy I had bloods to follow up the 2nd MC because I was still getting positive pregnancy tests. My levels were low ( around 100) and I was told I probably had some retained material, but I got a BFN 4 weeks after MC and a heavy AF a week later. If you feel well I'd do a test once a week until you get a negative, and contact the EPU if that doesn't happen soon. Quite a lot of us have felt first AF was a "proper clear out". I haven't heard the folic acid thing, are you still taking a pre-preg supplement?

Thunderbuns Thu 21-Feb-13 10:19:22

Hello everyone, alright?

Re epau support- I didn't get any follow up either, just sent home and told to expect a few weeks bleeding and af in insert random number weeks time.

Arse re the pg announcements and people giving birth right now!

tins, I'm on a mission for bfp in March- can you wait for me?

shellshock7 Thu 21-Feb-13 10:33:49

thunder me too for march....flu sex sucks, but mother natures gotta be proud of me and give me my BFP, right grin

JanieLovesCake Thu 21-Feb-13 10:55:51

Camo i only had my bloods tested as the results of my d&c were a bit skewiff (i've never written that word down) as they thought i'd had a molar pregnancy - that's the only reason. there's not normally reason to follow up. and congrats on your new job! that's great news and definitely a positive distraction from the upsetting times you are going through.

thunder and shell i'm so with you on that march train! should've started sex fest last night but DH was being a big grump and spoiled the mood. it really upset me as i was all geared up but he was getting on as if it was a hassle sad had a bit of an argument this morning along the lines of...don't you know how important this is to me... and i've been waiting for this week for nearly 2 fucking months due to my stupid long cycles aaaaarrrrgggghhhhh. he just doesn't get how infrequent our chances are sad not the best situation for needing/wanting to jump in the sack tonight sob sob

Thunderbuns Thu 21-Feb-13 11:02:14

Come on then shell and janie, let's do this thing!

Janie I totally feel your pain with the angst of having to dtd which makes the whole dtd itself so much harder. I, too, have been pussed off with OH but then still had to be wily enough to get him into bed when at any other time sex would have been the last thing that was going to happen. Af hasnt arrived here yet so sexfest won't start for at least another week or so...

Janie- yes, anyone deserves a bfp for flu sex! Top marks!

Bakingtins Thu 21-Feb-13 11:38:20

FX for a flurry of March BFPs it is then.

DIYandEatCake Thu 21-Feb-13 13:33:35

Another name change, didn't feel right to have one without 'DIY' in there somewhere!

I might be in with a chance after all, dp very reluctantly managed it, so you never know. I've spent the last couple of days spoiling him rotten to make up for it, janie dp is the same, doesn't seem to understand the time pressure or see that it's a big deal for me. I'm resorting to endless pampering/sympathising/back rubs/nice dinners... And reminding him that after these few days he gets a break for a few weeks...
How things have changed since we got together all those years ago!

saggy try not to worry too much though that's hard I know, those numbers are quite low and if not going up lots then that's hopefully a sign nothing's growing... I had a natural mc too and it took 5 weeks to get a bfn, had to keep going back for blood tests too, it sucks doesn't it. Had arms like pincushions. They thought mine was ectopic for a while as didn't spot the sac in the first scan (said it was a clot) and numbers going up for a bit, it was scary so I can understand how you're feeling.

SpanishLady Thu 21-Feb-13 14:18:17

it does all seem quite inconsistent doesnt it? I started to MC 3 weeks ago today - went for my scan the next day and also told I was PUL. Had bloods done that day and told to go back 2 days later - had more bloods and meeting with consultant - told to look for a BFN in 2-3 weeks.

I bled for 7 days (from first spotting to last time I saw any discharge at all) and then it stopped so waited a few days - so a week and 2 days from when MC started - and tested and got a BFN. I didnt contact the hospital to say as assumed they only wanted me to get in touch if still testing positive for more then a few weeks so have had no follow up bloods etc and assume thats fine as testing BFN means the level has dropped to pre-pregnancy levels?

3 days later (eg last wednesday) lots of EWCM but tested negative for ovulation that day and next and gave up testing as didnt matter as waiting for first AFP.

I am now hoping AF will appear either this Sunday or next Wednesday (if going by my usual cycle and treating MC as a period) - I do feel a bit pre-menstrual but then I also convinced myself yesterday that my boobs felt tender like they do when I'm pg so wondered if we had in a sense cocked up as we dyd (unprotected) on Saturday morning.

Im frankly mad but hoping Im some miracle and got pregnant without realising it and get to keep it so it woudl all work out.

A friend who is 39 weeks with the baby she conceived about 5 months after her MC came round yesterday and it was so comforting to spoeak to someone who understood what I was saying but for whom it wasnt so raw given she has a baby on the way.

JanieLovesCake Thu 21-Feb-13 15:05:01

thanks thunder and diy (nice name change btw!) it's just so infuriating. i'm out for dinner with some girls tonight - dinner club - so i won't be home til about 9, i know he's going to be sitting in with a face on him and i'll have to be the one that brings it up and apologises. i know he does want it, just wish he could behave as if he wanted me to be pg as much as me!

SaggyOldClothCatpuss Thu 21-Feb-13 15:13:18

Oooh! I think I've just had ovulation pain. I was fairly certain I saw a little EWCM last night. I have done research and apparently you can ovulate whilst waiting for the hCG to go away. DTD last night, and if I can manage it maybe again tonight. I know it's early days, but, stay positive and all that! smile

bzzbee Thu 21-Feb-13 15:30:24

Hi all

I've been lurking but not posting much.
I think AF came last week, it felt like another mini miscarriage, to the point where i had to leave work early as I was terrified I'd start blacking out again (I never normally faint, but I fainted a lot when miscarrying, and had the cuts and bruises on my head/face to prove it!). Though I hadn't really ever stopped bleeding since mc about 5 weeks ago, it seemed much heavier and has now trailed off so I am hoping it's a sign of normality resuming.
Have no idea where I am cycle wise other than that. Never did a preg test after mc (was the last thing I wanted to do).

Congrats Camo on the new job! I've had some positive feedback but have more interviews to do before I can celebrate.

I still can't stop eating chocolate and now it's gone beyond a joke.
Am determined (every week) to make next Monday the Start Getting Fit day. I might dig out the 30 day shred DVD (bought some time ago but never opened it as I was running to work and getting plenty exercise before BFP). I am like a sloth now, sigh.

My OH is really keen to TTC again(he has even given up alcohol for a while), but, after 3 years of me being the one encouraging us to TTC, I am not really sure now I want to go through all of that again. This mc has really knocked me for six, I feel like I am a shadow of the person I was (not literally, as I have gained weight post-mc unfortunately!).
Does anyone else feel a bit like that? Sigh.

xx

SaggyOldClothCatpuss Thu 21-Feb-13 16:07:17

Bzzbee I know how you fell sort of. I've been wanting a baby for more than a decade! I got pregnant by accident and was SOOO excited. DP changed face completely and was happy, then I MC. Now, I'm desperate to conceive again, and DP actually agree! But am also absolutely terrified I what might happen.

jmf294 Thu 21-Feb-13 16:32:51

Hi there- may I join you ladies on this thread.
I recognise some of your names sadly from the September thread.
For those I don't know:
I'm 36 and have 2 children aged 5 and 2.
At the end of December I found out that I was unexpectedly pregnant again.
I had always wanted a 3rd, my husband didn't- but not enough to be careful with contraception! He was shocked but pleased when I told him.
I had a miscarriage at 7 weeks and I had a ERPC as I was too scared just to wait and I wanted it to be over.
My husband agreed that we could try again- bless him, not sure I could have coped if he had said no.
So I got my period on the 12th feb which I was pleased about as I know it can take a while. I thought that I would buy digital ovulation sticks just to see when I am ovulating. I used when on day 8 and I was shocked to see a smiley face- indicating the LH surge and then the next 2 days it has gone. I did have some ovulation pain the next day as well.
I really have no idea what is going on. I know that HcG will give you a false positive on the ovulation sticks but after 41/2 weeks after an ERPC I would have thought it wouldn't still be present. Do you think I could have ovulated really early??
I will keep testing to see what is happenineg but its very odd.
I do want to be pregnant but we had so not planned this to be happening right now. I was thinking orginally that I might be able to convince my husband to try in a year or two before.
Nice to be here and I hope this thread brings us all lots of luck and BFPs!!

SaggyOldClothCatpuss Thu 21-Feb-13 16:54:23

<<waves to JMF>> I remember you from 'September'. smile

SpanishLady Thu 21-Feb-13 16:54:30

Hi jmf - did you get a BFN betwen your erpc and period starting as then for sure I would think your HCG levels cannot be interfering - also when I used OPKs (also the clear blue digital) for my cycle length I am to start testing on day 7 - the two times I used OPks and got pregnant I got a smiley face on day 13 or 14. so the question is - isa clearblue trying to make us spend more money by testing needlessly or is it more plausibly that ovulation can be fickle and wont necessarily occur the same time everry month and therefore the period of time they give you to test within is to give you the best chance of catching the surge.

so I think it is oerfectly reasonable to have a + opk on day 8 even if you are not used to ov so early in your cycle. as I read on one of the MC threads when it comes to cycles immediately following an MC - think anything goes and can be 'normal'

did you dtd when you got your smiley??

ChocolateCremeEggBag Thu 21-Feb-13 17:56:51

Hi jmf - I think I ov'd about 8-10days after my natural mc. Had the ov pain and EWCM. But hcg and LH both give same result on an opk so it's not going to be a safe test to go by. You may have ov'd in which case AF ( if you didn't ttc) should at least come sooner, or you may still ov in this cycle.

*Shell Thunder Janie" - I too am trying to battle through "sex week" with a stinky cold. Dh got a bit of shock last night when I had a coughing fit mid go grin He has also made comments like "you have to make me want to have sex" ( or some such other waffle) as he feels like "sperm donor" - but I don't think he really means it but maybe I should stop saying "Sex me now, big boy"

CoffeeandCremeEggs Thu 21-Feb-13 17:58:32

Hey y'all. Still here. Somewhat surly. In 2ww limbo but utterly convinced this is not my month. AF due Wednesday, assuming 10 day LP holds.

Sorry to see new people. Hope everyone's holding up.

ChristineDaae Thu 21-Feb-13 18:08:05

Hi all, can I join in? Waiting for the post MC bleeding to stop then getting back to TTC.

ChocolateCremeEggBag Thu 21-Feb-13 18:30:32

Hi Christine - sorry that you are here, but you are among slightly mad friends

GardenWorm Thu 21-Feb-13 20:24:47

Ha ha choccremeeggbag your:
He has also made comments like "you have to make me want to have sex" ( or some such other waffle)
just made me lol - particularly the waffle part!!!

I have decided to be a bit more glass half full - a couple of friends are going through far worse than me at the moment, time to appreciate just what I have and how lucky I am. In agreement; BFP's all round for March.

Hello Christine and welcome smile

jmf294 Thu 21-Feb-13 21:41:44

Thanks- interesting to hear that it could be ovulation on day 9- we are TTC this month and have been practising but it does get a bit repetitive every night!
I don't feel lucky and I am so bad at waiting- roll on mid-march and testing!!

Hi Christine- sorry for your loss, it's so rubbish!

JanieLovesCake Fri 22-Feb-13 08:26:51

Woohoo we're back in the game! Kissed and made up. Come on little swimmers!! Happy Friday everyone smile xxx

JanieLovesCake Fri 22-Feb-13 08:27:28

Oh hi Christine, welcome to the crazy house. Hugs xxxx

Thunderbuns Fri 22-Feb-13 08:29:01

Cd1 here. OH announces he has agreed to go and work away for a few days 'the week after next'. FFS.

JanieLovesCake Fri 22-Feb-13 09:05:26

Oh thunder. Jesus. Is there any way he can change it?

shellshock7 Fri 22-Feb-13 09:18:51

Will catch up properly in a bit..but thunder NOOOO! This can't happen, March is your month...can you go with him and stay in his hotel room, ready and available to DTD at all times? grin

Seriously tho, would that work...his work wouldn't even have to know you were there?

Thunderbuns Fri 22-Feb-13 10:15:18

Thanks girls, I knew you'd understand my angst! Not sure if he can change it, he doesn't even know exactly what days it is yet. Basically I've told him that he needs to be around for the second half of the week at least. He works for himself so it's very difficult to turn down work when it comes up, even if they can't bloody tell him when exactly it is Grrr!
shell I could go with him- they wouldn't mind at all. Trouble is my new work definitely would! Damnit, just hoping that he can be here for the crucial time otherwise I fear for my sanity.

How's everyone else doing today? janie good work on the making up!

Anyone wanna be cycle buddies?

littlemissnorthernbird Fri 22-Feb-13 10:36:29

Hi everyone, am so happy today! Don't laugh...but first month using CB ovulation sticks and have got my first smiley face this morning!!! After months of my body feeling completely messed up I'm so happy that I am getting back to some sort of normality. I could tell that ovulation was around the corner as started getting cramps the other night so feeling more intune with my body. So let the weekend baby dancing commence! I know how you feel Thunderbuns with the frustration of getting oh to be around at the right time. My oh has his own business and it really can mess up him being around at the right time! Hence why I have resorted to the ov sticks so can def pinpoint when we need to dd! Not very romantic I know...(smile)

WillSantaComeAgain Fri 22-Feb-13 12:47:19

Hello all, DH away and been having a bit of a wobble, having thought I was fine. I've realised that unless I conceive this month (and remember, only had the ERPC on Monday), I'm going to miss the 2013 bus. Arrggghhh.

So, after successfully using the CBFM twice (if you count 2 MMCs as "success") my question is, will it work now, or do I have to wait till AF comes along. I think I read that HCG can get muddled up with LH- surely not, otherwise your CBFM would show a second peak at the end of a cycle in which you conceive?

Oh dear, this could become an obsession--at least we've all got that in common too-- grin

Bakingtins Fri 22-Feb-13 13:47:07

Sorry, Santa, you do need to wait for a period. My (borrowed) CBFM totally missed my ovulation peak but did tell me that I ovulated was pregnant at the end of the cycle when I conceived the baby I then lost in September. It can't distinguish between HCG and LH.

Thunder you have to sort that DH of yours out. March BFPs and Christmas babies are on the cards. Hope you can rejig things to suit.

Bakingtins Fri 22-Feb-13 13:48:03

Good luck littlemiss and welcome Christine

SpanishLady Fri 22-Feb-13 13:55:35

littlemiss - I understand - I always do a little jig of glee when the smiley face beams up at me - strangely DH always looks abit terrified!

good luck...know what you'll be up to tonight!!!!

Bootyboo Fri 22-Feb-13 15:53:09

Hi all - particularly new ladies - baby dust to you all

Well I had the dye in tubes test - not something I'd want to repeat ouchy & had the joy of wearing a sanitary pad the size of a single bed duvet that they kindly gave me for the rest of yesterday but.... all looked clear so can't moan too much & just waiting for my peak on Clear Blue too.

On day 10 now so shouldn't be long - annoyingly husband is going away on a boys trip rolls eyes in a few days which might be just before ov so I am a little stressed about timing this month too. Seems such a waste to miss it & have to wait a whole other month. we've already negotiated what days we'll bd leading up to him going - so romantic lol. I hope some of us are lucky this month!!!

JanieLovesCake Fri 22-Feb-13 18:59:55

So girls, what are your thoughts on having some wine during fertile days?

jmf294 Fri 22-Feb-13 19:13:37

Janie- I think wine could help get you in the mood on fertile days!

Good luck littlemiss and I hope all absent partners are around for those vital days.
Hope you aren't sore Bootyboo- and hope it brings a positive result later this month.

I am still using the digital sticks even though I had a smiley face randomly on Tuesday.
Tonight we are all going out for my fathers birthday- I should have had my 12 week scan on Monday so had originally planned to tell them all tonightsad
Oh well- onwards and upwards!

Hello ladies - please can I join you?

I had a miscarriage last Friday after 2 long weeks of spotting and scans - I have stopped bleeding today and had a scan where they confirmed my womb was completely clear and we can start ttc again. They looked at my ovaries and said they looked normal but not about to release anything at the moment. I have really irregular and long cycles and got quite stressed when ttc before so not sure whether to use OPKs or just go for the more relaxed approached??

This will be baby number 2 for us - I already have a son who will be 4 in April and am stressed at the big age gap (although nothing I can do!!)

The support in here when going through the miscarriage was amazing and it would be great to share the ttc journey with you guys smile xxx

ChocolateCremeEggBag Fri 22-Feb-13 21:12:26

Hi MummyArk - I am a bit a lot of a control freak and I love my CBFM in that it gives me the highs and the peak fertility. My DS is 2.4 now and I'm 36.5 so while I know I should relax, I want to make sure I maximise my chances.

I'm not so worried about the age gap though, I fought with my brother who is 18 mo younger until we were in our 20's, I was much closer to my little brother and sister who are 7 and 9 years younger. We are all good friends now and the gap doesn't mean that much. At least he'll be able to help out when you do get number 2, and will be much more able to understand what is going on.

Janie - I think a little wine will just help to relax us all (and help any reluctant sperm providers grin)

My CBFM is showing 4th high today, so hoping for a peak tomorrow, remember that sperm can live for 5 days up there so if DP/DH is going away make sure you DTD before he goes. Send him off with a smile so to speak!

SaggyOldClothCatpuss Fri 22-Feb-13 21:45:20

<<Waves to Mummy>> Hellooo! grin
Dont worry about the age gap! My youngest is 14! confused I think kids either fight or they don't whatever their ages!

WillSantaComeAgain Fri 22-Feb-13 21:46:50

That makes me feel better chocolatebag -the age gap is really bothering me, esp when I see all my more fertile friends have they not heard of contraception with their perfect 2 yr age gap, or less "because you know, the funny thing is, we weren't even trying." <grrr>

Urgh. Can you believe there were two of my friends giving birth as I was getting my diagnosis of a mmc. Such irony. On a brighter note, me third glass of wine has gone down very nicely. grin

DIYandEatCake Fri 22-Feb-13 22:06:14

janie I think yes to wine. I was really strict first time round but thinking about it logically it takes a week or so for the embryo to be connected with your blood supply... so I'll have a drink or two up to when I think I've ov'd and then hold off (am limited by still bf dd though so can't get trolleyed anyway).

mummyark sorry you're here. I'm ttc baby no 2 as well. I'd never used opks before but caved to temptation and did this cycle (first proper one after mc), and was quite surprised as I ov'd later than I would have assumed from the signs I've been going by. Made me think maybe I've been timing it wrong all along, and has definitely been useful in that respect.

thunder - noooooo! - fingers crossed your oh is around at the right time after all.

Well I'm a couple of days after ovulation (can't do cds really as had strange 2 week af) so dp gets a break for a while, which I think he is very relieved about. So that makes it a wait til about the 6th March...

DIYandEatCake Fri 22-Feb-13 22:11:13

santa I'm not sure there is a perfect age gap. I thought I wanted a 2 year one but dd is coming up two and is very needy at the moment, in retrospect I'm sort of glad that I've got a longer gap than planned. If it makes you feel any better to know, I taught a 7 year old a while back who had a baby brother and was completely and utterly besotted with him.

SaggyOldClothCatpuss Fri 22-Feb-13 23:27:55

I actually think my potential age gap is great! Dcs 16 and 14 are independent, sensible, caring and are gagging for a baby brother or sister. We will have built in baby sitters,grin Baby will have older siblings for advice, spoiling and an escape from Mum and dad, DP and I only have one toddler to contend with and DD and DS get to see how much hard work babies are, and hopefully realise they need to be responsible with their bodies.

I know I worry about the age gap but I'm sure once it happens I will be fine - we had to wait a while as I knew we couldn't afford 2 lots of nursery fees so always knew it would be at least a 3.5 year gap. I will always find something to worry about and it's normally something I can't control. I thought the bleeding had all stopped but I have had some random pain and spotting this evening so guess I will have to wait a bit longer before ttc again - hopefully it won't be long x

Thunderbuns Sat 23-Feb-13 07:51:04

Morning all. Hello and welcome to ark. Sorry you're here. I don't have any other children but saggy I think those sound like very sensible words!

Conception question- so most important days for dtd when using cb opk must be something like day before smiley, day of smiley and then the couple of days afterwards would we think?

Thunderbuns Sat 23-Feb-13 08:42:16

Meant to say janie double YES to wine!

JanieLovesCake Sat 23-Feb-13 10:04:22

diy chocolate jmf and thunder thank you for the wine encouragement. i had a couple of glasses - god i needed it last night!!

waves at ark sorry you're here. i have no kids either but know friends who also determined to get the 'perfect' age gap. i hope it happens again for you soon, but try not to stress about it if possible, as it sadly can't put time on hold.

also ark i'm with you on the long cycles, mine are normally around 50 days which is so frustrating. i've had only 2 AFs since my MC at the start of october. i find the internet cheapies the most economical as you can use these every day, all month if you want to and you can get a month's supply for under a fiver. this month i bought the Clearblue digital opk pack of 7 (£20), but because i'm not exactly sure when i'll OV due to long / irregular cycles, i feel they will disappear really quickly. i think i'll OV some time mid next week, so we're dtd everynight for the next week or so. the internet cheapies seem to give you the sign for the 4/5 days running up to OV so personally i think they're better than the CB ones. as thunder says, you get the smiley on the day of OV, so if you don't know roughly when you OV, you've already missed a few days before that when you could have been dtd.

SpanishLady Sat 23-Feb-13 14:23:51

I use the clear blue opks too. My plan so far when ttc is to start DTd once I stop bleeding from my period, then use opk to ensure I try and catch ov to make we definitely Dtd in the 24 before and after. That way I give myself the best chance I can but don't get too stressed If we can't Dtd for some reason eg if its not directly around ov I can give my dh the night off without worrying I have missed my best time!

Thunderbuns Sat 23-Feb-13 15:57:44

When you say 24 before and after spanish, do you mean smiley day and day after smiley?

Bakingtins Sat 23-Feb-13 18:22:50

Smiley detects LH so you are likely to ov in the 24 hrs following the smiley or peak. Once the egg is released it has 24 hrs to be fertilised. If possible I'd DTD that day and the following one. Remember swimmers can survive 5 days, so if your DH can't change his plans I second the suggestion to DTD before he goes away.

SpanishLady Sat 23-Feb-13 19:52:28

The best scenario would be to Dtd the day before smiley, day of and day after..... But then I obsess as you might have figured out!

Thunderbuns Sun 24-Feb-13 09:06:47

That's great, thank you ladies- as I thought. Now need to figure out when he's actually going but if I'm getting back to normal then I should now have some idea of the really important time.

How's everyone today? I'm hungover!

DIYandEatCake Sun 24-Feb-13 11:54:34

Suffering with a migraine and not able to take anything stronger than paracetamol thanks to being in the 2ww. Looking forward to a day of pain and chucking up... Get v annoyed when af comes and I needn't have suffered, but clinging to the hope this could be my lucky month... Anyone else get the same?

Thunderbuns Sun 24-Feb-13 12:13:04

Poor you, diy, thats horrible. What's the reasoning behind not taking paracetamol in the tww?

Sunshine2013Hopefully Sun 24-Feb-13 13:51:53

Hi everyone, I'm a long term lurker and yous all seem so nice and supportive on this thread, so could some of yous answer a question for me plz?

I had an early mc in January and we decided to TTC again straight away. When I did get pg in Jan my breasts started tingling from 5 dpo - which was obviously a positive pregnancy sign for me! So thus month I'm currently 7 dpo and no tingles but my breasts r sore and a bit swollen!

So my question is to those ppl who have had multiple pregnancies, did ur early symptoms change from one pregnancy to the next??

Thanks for any help, and sorry we all hav to meet in such sad circumstances! Xx

Bakingtins Sun 24-Feb-13 14:37:00

Hi sunshine and welcome, we could use a bit of sunshine on the thread! I think unfortunately thinking about possibly being pregnant makes you overanalyse every sign and poking your boobs experimentally makes them sore and in my case a lot of PMS symptoms would fit into the possibly pregnant category. Hormones, eh? I got a BFP in early Feb and I've had fewer symptoms than every other month when I got BFNs hoping this is not a bad sign and each of my five early pregnancies has felt a bit different.
No alternative to waiting it out for another few days and testing. Hope you get a BFP.

Bakingtins Sun 24-Feb-13 14:38:35

DIY hope the migraine passes soon. Have you asked your doctor if there is anything safe you could take if you were in early preg?

Wardy17 Sun 24-Feb-13 18:01:47

Hi everyone, can I join???

I had an mmc at the end of Nov, I was 11 weeks but baby stopped growing at 8 weeks, this was my 1st pregnancy! We wanted to start trying again straight away. Didn't have AF at all in December and first period after the mmc was 7th Jan.

Well that was my last one, I am now on CD49 and no sign of AF and I've tested a bit and getting BFNs I am guessing that my cycle isn't back to normal yet or I've had an anovulation cycle!!!

I just don't know what all this means, will I ovulate before my AF decides to arrive or not? Shall I continue trying I just don't know what to do!!! I have had increased cm lately and really bad skin.

Just feel very sad at the moment!

Bakingtins Sun 24-Feb-13 19:02:16

Hi Wardy sorry to hear about your MMC but you are of course welcome to join us. I'm afraid many of us have had WTF cycles the first couple after MC and it is very frustrating. No way to say if you have ovulated or will ovulate this cycle unless you are charting/temping/ov sticks. If you normally get increased CM around ov and have it now I'd give it a go! Did you have regular cycles before? Hopefully it's just a case of hormones settling down and you'll be back to being predictable. It is difficult, I'm sure you feel like your cycles being back to normal and being able to "try" with some hope of success is part of moving forward. Hope your AF arrives soon, or you get a sneaky BFP one of the times you test.

Wardy17 Sun 24-Feb-13 19:13:23

Thanks bakingtins yes before mmc I had very regular 32 day cycles. I was using Clearblue OPKs when I finished my period in jan and I got a smiley face on the 25th Jan I dtd the deed the 3 days leading up to my smiley face, the day of, twice and the day after so when I was late I really thought I was pg!!! I have since found out that I can have an LH surge but no release an egg... I definitely detected an LH Surge but think if I was pg now the tests would def pick it up at 16 days late!!!

DIYandEatCake Sun 24-Feb-13 20:52:25

Hi wardy and sunshine. wardy, that is frustrating, especially when you just want to get on with it again. Hope something happens for you soon.

bakingtins keeping fingers crossed for you and hoping you get some symptoms soon to put your mind at rest.

Feeling better this evening, but a wasted day. The triptans I used to take are a complete no-no in pregnancy (and breast feeding which I'm still doing), i've been managing ok the last couple of years with ibuprofen but some studies say that has an increased risk of miscarriage, so i dont risk it in the 2ww. Paracetamol is all the drs are willing to say is safe, was offered other drugs last time I got pg (suffered lots in early pg) but they all had some risk so decided I'd rather put up with it.

How's everyone else? Wonder who's going to get lucky this month, at least one of us has to!

shellshock7 Sun 24-Feb-13 20:59:44

Aaagggh just lost my reply...will try to remember it grrrr

Hi to all the newbies, sorry to find you here, good luck getting a quick BFP smile

janie I've decided to try to go dry for the 2ww, just in case really?! I usually drink the same right up to BFP as I don't think transfer to embryo happens until abt 6 weeks? DIY for this reason I would take nurofen in the 2ww?

sunshine in my 3 PGs (one DS) I only had sore breasts once, and it wasn't the successful one? I think each PG is different and symptoms are unpredictable.

So, I'm feeling a bit better flu wise and am on CD18...but now DH is starting with the flu and I just know he won't DTD anyway like i did and I don't ovulate until CD19 usually so got a few rounds left to go! sad

shellshock7 Sun 24-Feb-13 21:01:38

Ah just seen your reply DIY I didn't know abt the ibuprofen studies, sounds like you suffer badly glad you're feeling a bit better smile

jmf294 Sun 24-Feb-13 21:07:36

I wouldn't touch ibuprofen either just to be safe.
I need to cut down my caffeine- I don't drink much tea or coffee but I drink Pepsi max like its water!!

I had a smiley face on day 8, now day 13 with no more smilies!!
If you ovulate early can you test early or should I wait until day 28.
15 more days seems forever.
Also I'm going away this weekend- what can I drink- don't want to drink alchol but want to avoid caffeine. Water on a girlie weekend sounds rubbish!!
Hope you all have a good week ahead!

Bakingtins Sun 24-Feb-13 21:27:07

I've cut down to 1 or 2 cups of tea a day - since I normally drink it all the time I'm like a bear with a sore head it's difficult.
jmf I think it's days post ov that determine when you can test, so if you ov early you can in theory test early. Maybe try some cheapie tests from 10 dpo if you want to? I've always been in favour of waiting until AF is late but I don't like the disappointment of BFNs, and I know I'm v much in the minority on this one!

Hello ladies, hope you have all had a lovely weekend smile

DIY - I suffer with migraines too - I normally take sumatriptan but trying to avoid it while ttc - they are so painful though hmm

I am trying so hard to be more positive - I have ordered some more OPK from amazon and am back to work on Tuesday so some normality should back in our house - thing is I just feel really sad today - I know my miscarriage was only last Friday so it is probably still raw but I just want the sadness to lift - I feel cross that we are back to square one (I know how pathetic that sounds as we are all in the same boat).

Sorry for the rant - I will get a good nights sleep today and will be perky and positive tomorrow x

shellshock7 Sun 24-Feb-13 21:53:00

Forgot one bit, wanted to ask a question to anyone who gets ovulation pain...can it be anything like round ligament pain in pregnancy? I've had some strange pains today, thanks smile

DIYandEatCake Sun 24-Feb-13 21:56:33

Mummyark, go easy on yourself, it's still really early days. I'm with you with 'back to square one' - takes us ages to conceive (18m and 6m but the 6m one failed) and it feels like a long road ahead! You don't have to be perky and positive, it takes a while to come to terms with and you may have 'wobbles' for quite a while.

Thunderbuns Sun 24-Feb-13 23:05:39

I'm off to bed so just a short post but I wanted to add my two penneth worth- in understanding about 'back to square one'. To add to that what really pisses me off gets to me sometimes is all the time and energy and waiting etc, not only of ttc but then of starting that pregnancy...three months of feeling pretty shite for nothing, only to be ill and knackered and hormonal and unable to conceive for how many months afterwards. Grrrr!

Rant over.

Night all x

SpanishLady Mon 25-Feb-13 09:09:01

morning everyone - nearly March - and Spring!

Still no AF - this is 4th week since MC and 20 days since I stopped bleeding - from what I have read these dates are by no means abnormal - but I really hope to get a period this week so I can get going!!

My 'usual' cycle is either 24 or 27 days - have passed the 24 and get to the 27 day start on Wednesday - again fully aware that cycles after MC can be odd for a while - but in the absence of knowing what is going on this is what I have to cling to - so please bear with my irrational witterings.

I conceived my son in March so naturally I have decided March is the month for me

heading for a fall arent I?

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

feel better know.

I cleaned my bathroom yesterday to within an inch of its life - felt good to do something.

but in bad news I had a chocolate crossiant for breakfast so the diet hasnt started well.

I need to get a grip!

Floweroct Mon 25-Feb-13 12:35:12

I'm with you on back to square 1!

However af has finally appeared woop woop! Nearly 10 weeks after erpc so happy however this is the last time I will be happy to see af! I can now also start my clomid for the first time tmrw so for the first time this year I finally feel I can move on.

Sorry for going in but just had to share with people who would understand smile

Fingers crossed for you Spanish, I have bought in a healthy lunch today but then just bought some chocolate to celebrate smile

SpanishLady Mon 25-Feb-13 13:16:23

never feel you are 'going on' flower - this is what we need from this thread, somewhere to go and talk about however we are feeling without feeling judged.

am so pleased for you and agree now shes been she can bog off again!

I think I am going to just accept Im going to eat chocolate today.

Today was suppose to be my 12 week scan - keep thinking what if etc - well what if doesnt help nor does wishing (apparantly) - as Im never married to John Cusack or a millonaire - or pregnant.

though I have done something silly and bought some pregancy tests (first response) and there is a vague second line if I tilt it - have never used first response before - does it usually do that? also its not right next to the main line but a bit away.

it was stupid cos now Im hopeful we somehow managed to get pg without a clue where was in my cycle!

jmf294 Mon 25-Feb-13 13:53:23

I totally understand Thunder and Floweroct about being back at square one and just the endless waiting.
I'm living my life by counting down weeks by my possible cycles and its horrible. I am useless at waiting at the best of times!!

I have decided that this cycle won't work as I probably didn't ovulate.

Spanish- I should be 13 weeks today so I feel your pain. Last week the day of my booked scan I felt really sad.

Thunderbuns Mon 25-Feb-13 13:55:35

Hello all.

spanish tell us more about this line!! Is there any colour in it? Did you use fmu?

I am in a better mood today. OH and I had a good chat no shouting and stomping around by me this time about him being away at the wrong time and he's told the clients that he needs to be home the second half of the week. Not perfect but if my cycle does similar to last time he should be home for smiley day. I am feeling very appreciative of this at the moment, especially when it means he might miss out on some money which is no small thing when you're self employed.

jmf294 Mon 25-Feb-13 14:14:10

Hurrah for your husband Thunderbuns!!

SpanishLady Mon 25-Feb-13 14:31:03

I second the hurrah for Mr T-Buns!

well its very faint but pink and about half a centimetre away from the control line.

I basically can see something but dont trust it or me. My DH has said Im to ignore it and wait till at least the weekends.

He says if I am pg he is cross as we had agreed we would wait for at least one AF to start trying again to make sure Im ok and we know where we are with my cycle dates.

He then emailed back saying he didnt mean to seem cold but he is worried how I'll feel if I am not.

he is right I am too obssessed.

SpanishLady Mon 25-Feb-13 14:34:07

jmf294 - I want to give you a hug and hope that would make it better for you - it cant I know but I wish it could x

SpanishLady Mon 25-Feb-13 14:36:14

I dont use FMU - I am literally going by the most ridiculous of 'facts'.

I had lots of EWCM on 13th & 14th of Feb - but tested neg for OV both those days. I had sex on 16th. thats it - If I had ov on 15th or 16th then that might explain it but I have no idea!

ChocolateCremeEggBag Mon 25-Feb-13 19:39:31

Hello all!
We managed to get DS into bed reasonably on time before 7 so now watchn the E! Oscars recorded from last night
I have started on the Pringles already but in my defence they are the last we'll have in the house as used to be able to get them cheaply through work. Work have now sold Pringles to Kellogg's (special K Pringles?) so no more.
Which my bum will be happy about

CD17 and finally got a Peak on my CBFM today so just another 2 nights of sex week to go! Which will be a relief as am still trying to get rid of a cold.

Thunderbuns Mon 25-Feb-13 19:41:02

spanish I think this sounds like it might be a good sign in terms of a bfp. Are you going to poas with fmu tomorrow or do as señor says and wait til the weekend? I can imagine that it's an anxious time For both of you <tries hard to keep level headed voice>

The only other thread I'm on here had two bfps today- and it's been ages since there was one on there. May this be the start of good things for us!

And yes, mr TB is a gem.

jmf, totally understand your sad day. I have managed to avoid too many date checks but realised today I'd be around 6 months now. <resolves not to think about it ANY MORE>

How's everyone else? ibip you there buddy?

Thunderbuns Mon 25-Feb-13 19:42:40

X post choc, good work with the dtd effort through the lurgy!

IBelieveInPink Mon 25-Feb-13 20:12:41

Hey hey! Thunder, another hurrah for mr thunder! Very considerate of him. Good to know you will be in this month. smile

I have been a bit quiet again, been feeling so negative, and didn't want to bring everyone else down. But, am on the more positive side.
According to my app, is fertile time now. An this matches exactly with the copious amount of ewcm that has arrived (gross). Which is giving me confidence as last month I didn't have any, at any time!
So mr pink blue?? has been on duty every night for the last 3 days, and will be later again. If it is meant to be this month, we have given it every opportunity to happen!
Now.... Just need to stay away from the sticks.....

Thunderbuns Mon 25-Feb-13 20:30:55

Hey pinkster, good to see you but sorry you've been feeling shitty. Sounds like you've been doing very well with grabbing this fertile window though- impressive shagging too!

My next hurdle is not being too much pressure to actually do it- one thing at a time though.

You still got your stick stash?

SpanishLady Mon 25-Feb-13 20:44:51

Good luck I believe!

I'm not going to poas till later in the week even the weekend if I can manage it. I just don't believe it to be honest - must be an aberration though am glad my dh said he could see a faint (v faint) line as well - as wondered if I was a little crazy given I had to squint and stand on one foot to be able to see the 'line' I think I can see.

I'm too nervous.

IBelieveInPink Mon 25-Feb-13 21:35:27

I still have my stick stash. Although after last months ridiculous amount of poas, I have set myself 1 date. Friday the 8th will be the ONLY poas day. Because although tht will be 2 days early, I am off to a spa and would quite like to sit in the jacuzzi if it bfn. And I WILL not poas before then. much

Spanish, wait till at least Friday. Then you will definitely know one way or another. And can have a few several wines if not. smile

Thunderbuns Mon 25-Feb-13 21:46:50

Ok good plans poas girls. We can have poas Friday for the next couple of weeks at least? And will not talk of it in between times.

My next af should be due around 22nd/23rd so I could do that Friday. Any takers for the 15th?

shellshock7 Mon 25-Feb-13 21:51:29

Aaaggh I want to POAS a week on Thurs, please can I Miss Thunder grin

Exciting POAS news - fingers crossed for some positive results ladies.

I am nowhere near POAS so will get excited about yours instead!!

Good luck ladies xx

IBelieveInPink Mon 25-Feb-13 23:54:00

Poas Friday. Yes. smile
runs off to hide sticks
I actually think I will be much better this month. I have lots to keep me busy in between now and then. And due to last months cycle being so messed up, DH is on rape week duty for at least another week from now. Just in case.

Thunderbuns Tue 26-Feb-13 07:38:43

Of course shell, shame it's not the Friday but I suppose it's not all about a neat system....wink

SpanishLady Tue 26-Feb-13 08:34:30

well I poas stick this morning to use first wee of the day and a second line came up straight away - not as dark as the control line but no mistaking and darker then yesterday - which was done after lunch in the toilets at work!

However, DH and I wonder if it can be something left over from my MC? I had a BFN with a digital clear blue on Thurs 14th Feb - but isnt First reponse or the non-digital strips more sensitive then the digital ones? I am wondering if my hormone levels are still high emough to be picked up on the very sensitive strips but wouldnt be on the digital.

I have only moved on a fraction further from yesterday - I am definitely getting a line but have my doubts as per above.

So I can only wait for a few days to give a clear blue digital best chance to pick anything up - I think if I get a digital BFP then its a clear reversal of the result from 2 weeks ago.

anyone heard of this kind of thing?

Thunderbuns Tue 26-Feb-13 08:37:47

What's happened to the system?!!

Seriously though, this sounds like a bfp to me, spanish. I can't believe the tests are so different that one gets a clear positive two weeks after a bfn on the other. Having said that, digi tests are not as sensitive by far so time will definitely tell.

How do you both feel if it is a positive?

SpanishLady Tue 26-Feb-13 09:42:04

T-buns - I am a crazed woman I have to admit. Apologies for disobeying the system.

its the digital result that would be the decider for me as surely a reversal of results isnt right unless a) Im pg or b) something is left over from MC. So I have to find the fortitude to wait abit longer to try - I am guessing I am 10 or 11 today though just checked my diary and in my last pregnancy I tested positive on digital at 10 dpo.

its not how I thought this would play out (eg if fortunate enough to get a BFP again)

If I am pg I would be very happy and will just ignore the worries of another MC - as long as it turned out alright my DH would come round too.

Bakingtins Tue 26-Feb-13 09:46:25

Sounds like a BFP to me, Spanish. If you've had a negative 2 weeks ago I think any HCG from MC is well and truly gone. Congratulations!